WEBVTT - This Went Off The Rails 0:00:12.080 --> 0:00:16.159 Hi, guys, it's I Do Part two. I'm one of 0:00:16.160 --> 0:00:19.680 your celebrity mentors, Jen Pestlor, once again, joined by fellow 0:00:19.920 --> 0:00:24.480 celebrity mentor on the Pod and Housewives along Kelly Ben Simon, 0:00:25.480 --> 0:00:28.440 and we are here at Live in the Vineyard in Napa, 0:00:28.560 --> 0:00:31.920 our new favorite place, love it here Beyond, and we've 0:00:31.920 --> 0:00:36.680 got Kelly's date, Pascal from the Golden Baccelorette here with us. 0:00:36.720 --> 0:00:37.040 Hello. 0:00:37.080 --> 0:00:44.800 Hello, making first dates come true? 0:00:44.880 --> 0:00:45.480 Baby. 0:00:45.920 --> 0:00:48.280 All right, you guys, Well, now that I have you 0:00:48.320 --> 0:00:51.199 both here, I have spoken to both of you separately, 0:00:52.320 --> 0:00:55.600 and I want to tell you what I think of 0:00:56.120 --> 0:00:59.880 this connection and it's actually bringing me back. So I 0:01:00.040 --> 0:01:02.320 don't know if I've shared this with either one of you. Well, Pescal, 0:01:02.640 --> 0:01:04.800 we just met, so probably not. And Kelly, I don't 0:01:04.800 --> 0:01:08.920 think I have. I was once a matchmaker, you were 0:01:08.040 --> 0:01:14.440 I in New York City. You told me this, it's 0:01:14.480 --> 0:01:17.840 just lunch, yes, And then I ended up doing it 0:01:17.880 --> 0:01:19.880 in New Jersey as well. It was the director there, 0:01:20.160 --> 0:01:22.399 and we used to set up people on lunch dates. 0:01:28.080 --> 0:01:31.520 Correct have one in Chicago started in Chicago. 0:01:31.600 --> 0:01:34.880 Chicago and you and you and you defoned of Juice 0:01:34.920 --> 0:01:41.880 Lynch which one Andrea and Daniel blow blownness. 0:01:42.200 --> 0:01:46.520 Isn't there an ad in like the Delta, like the 0:01:46.560 --> 0:01:47.400 Delta magazine? 0:01:47.960 --> 0:01:49.040 I'm always like, that's fun. 0:01:49.160 --> 0:01:52.640 Okay, listeners, I'm sorry, we digress. Get let's get back 0:01:52.680 --> 0:01:57.520 to it, the Kelly and the Pescal of it all. Okay, guys, first, 0:01:58.000 --> 0:02:00.200 did either one of you, let's be honest, watch the 0:02:00.240 --> 0:02:03.080 other on TV before coming to NAPA. Did you do 0:02:03.160 --> 0:02:06.440 any googling? No? No, that was easy. 0:02:06.600 --> 0:02:10.519 All right, that was great, Pascal. 0:02:10.840 --> 0:02:13.720 Did you get any intel on Kelly from Gary who 0:02:13.720 --> 0:02:14.800 went on the date with her? 0:02:15.600 --> 0:02:15.799 Yes? 0:02:16.080 --> 0:02:20.120 Actually, Gary speak very very highly about Kelly. He had 0:02:20.160 --> 0:02:24.280 a wonderful time. He was an incredible experience. He actually 0:02:24.440 --> 0:02:26.800 had a good feeling for you. 0:02:26.800 --> 0:02:30.600 You wish to see you more, That's what he says. 0:02:31.120 --> 0:02:36.680 I'm the matchmaker has the only nice time to say 0:02:36.720 --> 0:02:37.080 about you. 0:02:37.080 --> 0:02:41.480 You had a wonderful, wonderful experience, and you were a 0:02:41.560 --> 0:02:45.560 great host. And I think you still text messaging with 0:02:45.639 --> 0:02:46.600 your shadow time to time. 0:02:46.639 --> 0:02:49.280 I'm wi Yeah, he's so nice. Yeah, he's a great girl. 0:02:50.240 --> 0:02:53.000 By my Instagram, he's very sweet, sweet guy. 0:02:53.080 --> 0:02:55.560 Yes, yes, okay, but well Gary's not here, so now 0:02:56.080 --> 0:02:59.720 that okay, sorry, okay, Now I'm moving. 0:02:59.520 --> 0:03:01.359 To Kelly question. 0:03:04.480 --> 0:03:05.760 Love Gary, But now we're moving on. 0:03:05.960 --> 0:03:08.440 Okay, So I have all these questions for you guys, 0:03:08.560 --> 0:03:10.560 but I feel like now that I've spoken to you 0:03:10.600 --> 0:03:14.280 each individually, I understand a little bit better about you 0:03:14.320 --> 0:03:18.240 know what's this? Very in this very small amount of time, 0:03:18.680 --> 0:03:20.640 I feel like we've all we're all sort of on 0:03:20.720 --> 0:03:23.400 the same page. And here's why. I'll say what I think, 0:03:23.440 --> 0:03:24.920 and then I'm gonna ask you both what you think. 0:03:25.400 --> 0:03:29.079 It seems to me that you guys met, you both 0:03:29.120 --> 0:03:31.399 had very similar things to say. Both of you felt 0:03:31.440 --> 0:03:33.919 like the other was attractive, very attractive. As a matter 0:03:33.919 --> 0:03:36.000 of fact, you both were very complimentary of each other 0:03:36.360 --> 0:03:39.680 in terms of your physicality. No surprise there. You both 0:03:39.680 --> 0:03:43.600 happened to be gorgeous, okay, and you both have had 0:03:43.720 --> 0:03:48.360 only lovely things to say about the other. You know 0:03:48.760 --> 0:03:54.840 that that incredible person, so nice, all of the most 0:03:54.960 --> 0:04:00.280 fabulous adjectives. Kelly said first that she didn't get from 0:04:00.280 --> 0:04:06.320 you the feeling that you were so interested committed to 0:04:06.440 --> 0:04:08.680 the date you got up and left. You guys were 0:04:08.720 --> 0:04:11.080 sitting together and you were not there for a lot 0:04:11.120 --> 0:04:14.800 of that time period, and Pascal, you said to me 0:04:14.920 --> 0:04:20.839 that Kelly was so pretty and so charismatic, but you 0:04:20.880 --> 0:04:25.280 could just tell that there wasn't necessarily that spark, right, Yes, 0:04:25.520 --> 0:04:27.640 And so I feel like you guys were kind of Kelly. 0:04:27.760 --> 0:04:29.520 Kelly did say that she would have been more open 0:04:29.560 --> 0:04:32.320 because what she's been through in life, even though maybe 0:04:32.320 --> 0:04:35.080 she didn't feel doesn't feel always an initial spark. She 0:04:35.200 --> 0:04:36.800 likes to give it a little bit more of a chance. 0:04:37.400 --> 0:04:39.560 I feel like I'm pretty correct me if I'm saying 0:04:39.560 --> 0:04:40.599 anything here that's not true. 0:04:40.640 --> 0:04:42.440 You guys are true, true, true. 0:04:42.480 --> 0:04:44.600 I mean, you both said lovely things about each other, 0:04:45.080 --> 0:04:47.239 but Kelly might have been a little more open because 0:04:47.240 --> 0:04:49.159 of what she's been through and she wants to be 0:04:49.240 --> 0:04:51.599 more open like that. Pascal. For you, it's either you 0:04:51.640 --> 0:04:53.440 feel it or you don't. You said that you would 0:04:54.400 --> 0:04:56.960 love to be friends with Kelly, keep it touch with 0:04:57.000 --> 0:04:58.840 Kelly because she's an amazing person. You just didn't feel 0:04:58.839 --> 0:04:59.920 that initial spark. 0:05:00.080 --> 0:05:00.800 Yes. Yes. 0:05:01.320 --> 0:05:03.080 One thing I thought that was really interesting is when 0:05:03.120 --> 0:05:05.240 you were sitting in the printer van and we were 0:05:05.279 --> 0:05:11.000 all talking about you and being on the Golden Bachelorette, 0:05:11.040 --> 0:05:15.720 and what you said about the like unraveling of the 0:05:15.800 --> 0:05:20.840 relationship between you and you're and the bachelorette that you 0:05:21.360 --> 0:05:23.600 instead of just like going into the fantasy in suites 0:05:23.640 --> 0:05:25.800 and having this moment that you wanted to like talk 0:05:25.839 --> 0:05:28.440 to her one on one and you know, have that moment. 0:05:28.520 --> 0:05:31.440 And I thought, I really like that just was like 0:05:31.640 --> 0:05:32.839 very I thought that was amazing. 0:05:33.160 --> 0:05:35.680 I thought that was really amazing. Thank you, thank you. 0:05:35.680 --> 0:05:37.599 But I want I want to say one tent because 0:05:37.600 --> 0:05:39.360 I thank you. You know I was sitting with you. 0:05:39.400 --> 0:05:41.880 I want you to understand that I'm a very hyper 0:05:42.040 --> 0:05:46.120 kind of guy. I can't I can't sit still for 0:05:46.200 --> 0:05:48.240 a long period of time. I need to move. 0:05:48.440 --> 0:05:50.840 No, you're so nice to get me if you want 0:05:51.600 --> 0:05:52.080 because I. 0:05:51.960 --> 0:05:54.640 Needed to move, If you want someone because I needed 0:05:54.680 --> 0:05:56.240 to move, I cannot see it. 0:05:56.320 --> 0:05:57.720 It's very hard for me to see. 0:05:57.839 --> 0:05:59.800 So right, I don't think that was trying to have 0:06:00.040 --> 0:06:02.360 boy the convexation with you because. 0:06:02.080 --> 0:06:03.200 I'm enjoying the conversation. 0:06:03.960 --> 0:06:08.160 She's trying to she's move my ears. I'm even sitting 0:06:08.240 --> 0:06:10.880 here away night. It's kind of hard for me alect you. 0:06:10.880 --> 0:06:11.080 Guys. 0:06:11.160 --> 0:06:12.359 This is what I have a question. 0:06:12.480 --> 0:06:14.880 What's signing virgo Virgo? 0:06:15.040 --> 0:06:15.640 I'm a Taurus. 0:06:15.760 --> 0:06:18.000 I don't know what that means men. 0:06:21.200 --> 0:06:25.680 For high my name is gentleman le. 0:06:28.960 --> 0:06:31.200 I don't I don't actually know. I I know about 0:06:31.240 --> 0:06:35.080 like friendship relationships. I don't know about for male male 0:06:35.120 --> 0:06:36.400 and female relationships. 0:06:36.520 --> 0:06:38.560 Here's what I'm thinking right now. I think that we 0:06:38.600 --> 0:06:41.760 are so evolved. I feel like this is the perfect 0:06:42.200 --> 0:06:44.800 I wish for our listeners to have this type of 0:06:44.839 --> 0:06:48.200 attitude and specifically what I'm commenting on Pescal You've been 0:06:48.240 --> 0:06:50.880 nothing but lovely, but you didn't feel the spark, and Kelly, 0:06:51.400 --> 0:06:55.159 You're like you're You're like, listen, you were so nice, 0:06:55.240 --> 0:06:59.000 you are lovely. This is the idea, guys, I think again, 0:06:59.040 --> 0:07:01.000 who am I idea? What I'm talking about? 0:07:01.040 --> 0:07:02.160 But you're a matchmaker. 0:07:02.400 --> 0:07:03.480 I was a matchmaker. 0:07:03.560 --> 0:07:05.840 Yes, no, no, was a matchmaker, always a matchmaker. 0:07:06.000 --> 0:07:08.920 I feel like this is how dating should be approached, right, 0:07:09.200 --> 0:07:12.960 like respectful kind and also like not it's not the 0:07:13.040 --> 0:07:16.160 end of the world, like Kelly. A million guys are 0:07:16.160 --> 0:07:19.040 gonna line up for Kelly, Ben Simone. We know this, right, 0:07:19.200 --> 0:07:21.600 She's not just because she's beautiful, because Piscal's you said. 0:07:21.760 --> 0:07:27.080 Not everything is about beautiful, right, It's about Kelly being 0:07:27.160 --> 0:07:30.600 Kelly and the experience it comes with that Pascal. Obviously, 0:07:31.360 --> 0:07:33.160 I don't think either one of you are going to 0:07:33.240 --> 0:07:35.200 have a hard time finding a date. But what a 0:07:35.200 --> 0:07:38.720 great opportunity to sit down in this way, get to 0:07:38.720 --> 0:07:42.280 know each other, you know, share some things about each other, 0:07:42.360 --> 0:07:46.200 become friends. Who knows. I hope that you'll keep in touch. 0:07:46.720 --> 0:07:48.600 Maybe you're going to meet someone or Kelly, because you 0:07:48.600 --> 0:07:50.000 said that happens to you a lot where you're like, 0:07:50.040 --> 0:07:51.520 you know what, he's not for me, but he might 0:07:51.520 --> 0:07:55.120 be for my friend, Pascal, I don't know. One of 0:07:55.160 --> 0:07:56.960 your friends might say, you know what I'm looking for. 0:07:57.080 --> 0:08:01.760 I'm just looking for this woman with honey tawny honey, 0:08:02.120 --> 0:08:06.600 blonde hair, kind of tall and tan, model who also 0:08:06.680 --> 0:08:13.760 speaks French. That's my team. And you'll say, yes, he's 0:08:14.520 --> 0:08:16.640 and you'll know that. But like, what a lovely thing 0:08:16.800 --> 0:08:19.160 to have now been able to like have this experience 0:08:19.200 --> 0:08:23.200 and be friends. I'm looking down here at all the 0:08:23.280 --> 0:08:25.240 questions that I had. I mean, you guys ask each 0:08:25.240 --> 0:08:26.840 other things. Is there anything that you want to know 0:08:26.920 --> 0:08:30.880 from this experience, anything that you're wondering or you know, 0:08:30.960 --> 0:08:31.360 do you just. 0:08:31.320 --> 0:08:34.000 Want to I want to ask? 0:08:34.200 --> 0:08:36.400 So you know, there's just so many ways to like 0:08:36.520 --> 0:08:40.000 meet people, and how did you feel when you were 0:08:40.320 --> 0:08:42.520 when you met me over zoom? How did how did 0:08:42.640 --> 0:08:45.600 how did you feel? Did you like like being able 0:08:45.640 --> 0:08:47.480 to like see me and talk to me? I mean 0:08:47.520 --> 0:08:50.040 obviously like Bob was there and we were having fun 0:08:50.080 --> 0:08:52.840 with Bob, but like I'm just curious just in general, 0:08:53.280 --> 0:08:55.760 you know, do you like like being on a zoom 0:08:55.840 --> 0:08:59.280 and or being on a FaceTime and actually seeing the person? 0:09:00.080 --> 0:09:03.080 Definitely? I think to me, it's very important to see 0:09:03.120 --> 0:09:04.640 the person. Okay. 0:09:04.880 --> 0:09:08.600 You know the problem of those dating website where it's 0:09:08.760 --> 0:09:12.920 texting after texting, after texting after texting, and sometimes you 0:09:13.040 --> 0:09:16.720 mass translate the text by the mood you are at 0:09:16.760 --> 0:09:20.679 the moment. Okay, So I like to see the person. 0:09:20.760 --> 0:09:22.600 And I think it was a pleasure to see you. 0:09:22.679 --> 0:09:25.199 And you are a very attractive looking woman. 0:09:25.640 --> 0:09:27.640 Okay, it was the pleasure seeing you talking to you. 0:09:28.080 --> 0:09:29.319 We asked a pole question. 0:09:29.400 --> 0:09:31.760 I was I was like a little bit of like 0:09:31.800 --> 0:09:35.719 a confused about your choice. Okay, like when you said, well, 0:09:35.720 --> 0:09:37.200 which you take me on the first date? 0:09:37.280 --> 0:09:40.480 And you said, when you take this guy? 0:09:40.640 --> 0:09:41.040 You don't know? 0:09:41.160 --> 0:09:41.400 Is that? 0:09:41.440 --> 0:09:43.360 She said? When I spoke to before you came in, 0:09:43.880 --> 0:09:46.000 she said, I hate that one answer that I gave 0:09:46.120 --> 0:09:47.000 us Gar, Yeah, and. 0:09:46.960 --> 0:09:49.840 I think that was actually actually let me let me 0:09:49.920 --> 0:09:52.280 just say when when you said that, and you were 0:09:52.280 --> 0:09:54.440 going to take me to the via Gar Triangle and 0:09:54.840 --> 0:09:57.840 we're gonna have a burger and beer and you're gonna 0:09:57.840 --> 0:09:59.040 see my picture on the wall. 0:09:59.160 --> 0:10:01.600 No, no, not my sure, my Playboy. 0:10:01.320 --> 0:10:05.200 Play my Playboy cover, my Playboy cover on the excuse me, 0:10:05.240 --> 0:10:06.560 my Playboy cover on the wall. 0:10:07.200 --> 0:10:08.880 I was kind of a little bit, honestly. 0:10:08.880 --> 0:10:11.080 I was a little bit tun off for me, okay, 0:10:11.160 --> 0:10:13.280 because I think to me, I would have preferred and 0:10:13.320 --> 0:10:15.440 I said that to you, I would prefer take you 0:10:15.520 --> 0:10:18.000 to a half flow on restaurant, which. 0:10:17.840 --> 0:10:19.720 Is a beautiful show on beautiful. 0:10:19.800 --> 0:10:22.080 Well, we could have a nice conversation with that, to 0:10:22.120 --> 0:10:27.440 be screaming shadow because Gibson, Gibson, Gibson, the you know 0:10:27.480 --> 0:10:30.880 it's it's it's like you said, Viago trainingle bench of 0:10:30.960 --> 0:10:33.240 old guy would pick up some prostitute at the bars. 0:10:33.559 --> 0:10:38.880 Okay, I was, I was just I was. 0:10:38.960 --> 0:10:41.440 I said that I felt I was being a total 0:10:41.520 --> 0:10:45.320 deck and I was. I said it because it's something 0:10:45.480 --> 0:10:48.520 very like obviously there's many beautiful places, and I really, 0:10:48.559 --> 0:10:49.520 I really appreciate. 0:10:49.520 --> 0:10:50.719 I love the poll of reminds me. 0:10:50.840 --> 0:10:53.959 I went there so many times, my parents and I 0:10:54.000 --> 0:10:56.600 have the most beautiful memories there, and I really appreciate that. 0:10:57.400 --> 0:11:00.720 I was just trying to like push a little because 0:11:01.920 --> 0:11:04.560 in my journey, which you don't know about, but in 0:11:04.600 --> 0:11:08.160 my personal journey on this podcast, I have been going 0:11:08.200 --> 0:11:13.160 through therapy and then having these whether they're dates or 0:11:13.520 --> 0:11:15.280 you know, just talking on the pod with you know, 0:11:15.320 --> 0:11:17.840 my a lot of my new friends, like whether it's Dana, 0:11:17.880 --> 0:11:19.199 Sharon Burke, Janda. 0:11:18.960 --> 0:11:24.040 Kramer, and I've been learning a lot. And I am. 0:11:23.880 --> 0:11:25.800 Not the kind of person that ever says that. And 0:11:25.880 --> 0:11:29.000 I don't say that. That's kind of like my Housewives personality. 0:11:29.400 --> 0:11:31.559 And I regret saying that, and I apologize. 0:11:31.679 --> 0:11:33.640 No, I mean, you don't have to apologize that, Tank, No, 0:11:33.720 --> 0:11:33.920 I do. 0:11:34.000 --> 0:11:35.920 I I don't have to, I am. 0:11:36.000 --> 0:11:40.840 But yeah, so I accept you a potaty portage you 0:11:40.880 --> 0:11:42.920 needed as you staying then. 0:11:44.480 --> 0:11:47.320 You know, I like the fact that you know, you 0:11:47.440 --> 0:11:49.800 talk on the podcast and you want you've been working 0:11:49.800 --> 0:11:52.199 hard on yourself by going to trap and learn more 0:11:52.240 --> 0:11:54.440 and more and more. You know, we never we never 0:11:54.480 --> 0:11:57.560 stop learning. I mean, I'm much older than you, and 0:11:57.640 --> 0:12:00.040 I'm still learning, so I thank you. 0:12:00.040 --> 0:12:01.679 You know, there is certain sense. 0:12:01.600 --> 0:12:08.080 I'm looking for, okay, and sometimes it's hard to you know. 0:12:08.160 --> 0:12:11.440 I want authenticity. I want the person with herself. Some 0:12:11.520 --> 0:12:14.000 persons I don't need to be empressed. Mean, if I 0:12:14.000 --> 0:12:15.640 if I tell you I've been in the cover of 0:12:15.840 --> 0:12:19.880 hundreds of magazines, it's not it's not sometime I talk 0:12:19.960 --> 0:12:23.479 about I just want to know you, who you are, what, 0:12:23.480 --> 0:12:24.080 what makes you? 0:12:24.280 --> 0:12:27.880 What met Kelly? Kelly? Okay, and it was it was, 0:12:27.960 --> 0:12:29.959 you know, it was a little bit. I was a 0:12:29.960 --> 0:12:30.880 little bit off on that. 0:12:31.120 --> 0:12:34.000 Actually I called the producer and I said, I don't 0:12:34.040 --> 0:12:36.080 know if I don't know if it's a good match. 0:12:36.679 --> 0:12:39.600 And then she said, give it a chance. I said, okay, 0:12:39.840 --> 0:12:41.800 I got to give it a chance. And then that's 0:12:41.840 --> 0:12:43.880 what I'm here. I got to meet you. I enjoy 0:12:44.440 --> 0:12:49.520 meeting you, somebody. You're wonderful woman. You know, we had 0:12:49.520 --> 0:12:51.079 the chance to get to know you a little bit 0:12:51.080 --> 0:12:55.800 more personally by talking during the time, mean and not 0:12:56.000 --> 0:12:56.640 picking up a. 0:12:56.640 --> 0:12:57.920 Glass of water and wine. 0:12:58.080 --> 0:13:01.319 I have even active evening. 0:13:02.240 --> 0:13:04.200 You did popcorn water and wine. 0:13:04.240 --> 0:13:06.120 All I just I'm sorry to jump in, but I 0:13:06.160 --> 0:13:09.800 am so impressed with you. First of all, the way 0:13:09.800 --> 0:13:13.440 that you just you were so honest, because you complimented 0:13:13.520 --> 0:13:16.280 me earlier today about being like open and vulnerable, and 0:13:16.280 --> 0:13:18.040 the way you were like, you know, I said that 0:13:18.520 --> 0:13:19.760 I don't know why you would say that you were 0:13:19.760 --> 0:13:21.320 a dick. I don't know what that was dicky, but 0:13:21.440 --> 0:13:23.840 like you own it and you're like, and I apologize. 0:13:24.080 --> 0:13:26.200 I am falling in love with you, and I would 0:13:26.240 --> 0:13:28.400 like for us to go on a date. And I 0:13:28.440 --> 0:13:31.880 am married, so it'll be salacious. But I have to 0:13:31.880 --> 0:13:34.000 be honest with you. The way you just handled that 0:13:34.080 --> 0:13:36.320 whole thing was so high class. 0:13:36.559 --> 0:13:38.199 Thank you, here's my friend. 0:13:38.280 --> 0:13:38.760 Thank you. 0:13:38.760 --> 0:13:39.120 You know what. 0:13:39.200 --> 0:13:43.280 To be honest with you, there was no need that protagy. 0:13:43.360 --> 0:13:47.240 I don't think that was a she think that was 0:13:47.280 --> 0:13:48.880 a she's a conversation. 0:13:48.960 --> 0:13:50.000 And I was just having fun. 0:13:50.840 --> 0:13:53.080 I knew you were having fun, and I was said, it's. 0:13:52.960 --> 0:13:58.880 Also in my defense that is, you know, I'm from Rockford. 0:13:59.000 --> 0:14:01.920 I spent so much time in that area, and in 0:14:02.160 --> 0:14:07.040 all transparency when they asked for the cover and put 0:14:07.080 --> 0:14:10.240 it in Gibson's, which is which is is there's a 0:14:10.240 --> 0:14:12.440 lot of you know, there's there's mixed emotions, it's the 0:14:12.440 --> 0:14:15.560 best burger, it's the best bar. Like people love to 0:14:15.559 --> 0:14:17.680 go there, but it's also there's a lot of you know, 0:14:17.679 --> 0:14:19.000 it's it's it's. 0:14:18.920 --> 0:14:20.800 A hot spot for people that want to go on dates. 0:14:21.280 --> 0:14:24.040 And so when they asked me to sign the cover 0:14:24.160 --> 0:14:29.400 and to have it in Gibson's, I was hands down. 0:14:29.480 --> 0:14:33.000 That was like a very proud moment for definitely. So 0:14:33.080 --> 0:14:36.680 I I just it was I was just having fun 0:14:36.720 --> 0:14:39.960 with it. But it but you don't know me at all. 0:14:40.040 --> 0:14:43.040 You don't know anything about that. You don't know that, 0:14:43.200 --> 0:14:48.280 like you know, you're French from Paris. I'm from Rockford, Illinois, 0:14:48.400 --> 0:14:51.240 ninety miles northwest of Chicago. I'm not from Chicago. 0:14:51.360 --> 0:14:55.960 I'm not from. 0:14:53.960 --> 0:14:56.520 From very small town. 0:14:57.200 --> 0:14:59.520 And so that was just it was, I was just, 0:14:59.600 --> 0:15:01.320 I was just I was I was just having fun. 0:15:01.360 --> 0:15:04.720 But that's sometimes, Kenny, that's sometimes you should be part 0:15:04.760 --> 0:15:06.800 of Okay, I mean, have you still making the cover 0:15:06.840 --> 0:15:10.240 of Playboy. It's an accomplishment. I think that sometime we 0:15:10.240 --> 0:15:12.520 could have bought in the after we get to know 0:15:12.600 --> 0:15:14.520 his shadow in more details, that sometime you could have 0:15:14.560 --> 0:15:18.640 bought into the conversation later on in in in getting 0:15:18.680 --> 0:15:22.240 to know each shadow as you think for me that 0:15:22.520 --> 0:15:25.040 was I felt like you didn't need to do that. 0:15:35.480 --> 0:15:38.680 By the way, Kelly, there are men as you know, 0:15:39.280 --> 0:15:41.080 as Pascal, you know who would have thought that was 0:15:41.120 --> 0:15:45.600 the most adorable. No, I mean it like if you 0:15:45.640 --> 0:15:48.560 would said that to Jeff Essler, I don't know why, 0:15:48.640 --> 0:15:54.640 it's kind of gross. No, I just know him. 0:15:54.720 --> 0:15:55.160 I know them. 0:15:55.200 --> 0:15:56.680 Like you said we should go get a burger and 0:15:56.680 --> 0:15:58.400 go with my Playboy cover, he would have been like, 0:16:01.240 --> 0:16:03.160 let's go, where's it. I don't know if this is 0:16:03.160 --> 0:16:05.000 getting weird, I'm sorry you guys. No, no, no, no, 0:16:05.200 --> 0:16:07.080 I think that it just depends who you say it to. 0:16:07.160 --> 0:16:09.880 You that to that, to that, to that. 0:16:10.840 --> 0:16:13.320 And by the way, Jen's got a really good point 0:16:13.720 --> 0:16:15.800 the minute that I said that, and I was like 0:16:15.920 --> 0:16:18.960 smiling when I said it, and then I saw the 0:16:19.000 --> 0:16:20.840 look on your face and I was like that, did 0:16:21.000 --> 0:16:24.040 you know what you were like? Like, it's like we've 0:16:24.040 --> 0:16:25.720 been talking about like just a little like a lot 0:16:25.720 --> 0:16:28.800 of things, like how people present themselves, like what they're 0:16:28.920 --> 0:16:31.920 what they optically want people to see. And then if 0:16:31.960 --> 0:16:35.120 you say something you think it's like funny or charming, 0:16:35.240 --> 0:16:36.720 but then it just drops her. 0:16:36.960 --> 0:16:39.880 Don't don't And so like that's what happened. 0:16:39.920 --> 0:16:41.880 Is I said that to you because it was like 0:16:41.920 --> 0:16:42.800 I was having fun. 0:16:43.360 --> 0:16:46.200 Well, I will say this like also Kelly, at the 0:16:46.280 --> 0:16:47.800 end of the day, even if you, guys, let's say, 0:16:47.800 --> 0:16:50.400 word to have gone out again. The truth is, Pascal, 0:16:50.800 --> 0:16:53.440 she's been married to a Frenchman. She's not necessarily what 0:16:53.480 --> 0:16:57.120 she's looking for. Not nothing wrong with she loves Frenchmen. 0:16:57.640 --> 0:16:59.840 But there's probably some of that. I mean, you know, 0:17:00.000 --> 0:17:01.920 could have been come from either one of you. So 0:17:02.240 --> 0:17:06.639 the best news here is like we went through it. 0:17:07.040 --> 0:17:10.919 We Pascal, I mean for all to the purpose is 0:17:10.960 --> 0:17:14.560 basically dating you is like going on with my ex husband. 0:17:15.119 --> 0:17:18.159 You know what, let me let me tell you what 0:17:18.640 --> 0:17:22.240 my god, let me tell you something, let me tell 0:17:22.280 --> 0:17:23.200 you something and teresting. 0:17:23.240 --> 0:17:24.720 Actually you said that, Okay. 0:17:25.280 --> 0:17:27.639 When I was in the last day with John and 0:17:27.680 --> 0:17:31.639 we were in the that before the fantasy, sweet I 0:17:31.680 --> 0:17:35.920 asked you a simple question and I said, twenty three guys, 0:17:36.200 --> 0:17:40.199 why me, Why did you choose me? And I was 0:17:40.280 --> 0:17:43.639 expecting her to say, I like your personality, I like 0:17:43.680 --> 0:17:47.480 you Carrissima, I like you so fashion, I like your accomplishment, 0:17:47.840 --> 0:17:51.280 I like that you funny. The answer was from her 0:17:52.480 --> 0:17:57.200 you remind me my husband. And I said to myself, 0:17:57.240 --> 0:17:59.280 I said, I don't want to live in the shadow 0:17:59.320 --> 0:17:59.800 of you. 0:18:00.320 --> 0:18:04.439 That has been right, Okay, So she was that was 0:18:04.840 --> 0:18:05.080 that was. 0:18:05.200 --> 0:18:07.080 It was a compliment from me and from her. I 0:18:07.160 --> 0:18:08.800 totally totally understand that. 0:18:08.840 --> 0:18:11.040 I totally and as you as you feel like you 0:18:11.080 --> 0:18:13.280 know me and I think I want her to like 0:18:13.440 --> 0:18:14.640 me for who I am. 0:18:15.320 --> 0:18:17.320 Okay, now, but. 0:18:17.280 --> 0:18:19.760 Here's something that's interesting. So you're a Frenchman. 0:18:20.040 --> 0:18:22.119 So most people think when they think of a Frenchman, 0:18:22.160 --> 0:18:25.480 they think like, oh, he's so debonnair. He was raised 0:18:25.480 --> 0:18:28.120 in Paris. He spends all these times at the cafe 0:18:28.280 --> 0:18:31.119 watching those beautiful women in the world. He's touched the 0:18:31.200 --> 0:18:33.760 head upon head upon head, taken photos, worked with the 0:18:33.760 --> 0:18:34.520 best of the best. 0:18:34.560 --> 0:18:36.080 Are this business, that business. 0:18:36.200 --> 0:18:38.560 He's married, all these beautiful women, has all these amazing children. 0:18:38.640 --> 0:18:39.520 Da YadA, YadA. 0:18:39.920 --> 0:18:43.840 One thing that is very interesting about Frenchmen is that 0:18:43.960 --> 0:18:47.840 you guys are and this is a generalization, clearly, but 0:18:47.880 --> 0:18:51.520 there's one thing about Frenchmen that people do not understand, 0:18:52.119 --> 0:18:55.639 and that that you guys are wildly sensitive in a 0:18:55.640 --> 0:19:00.600 good way, and you're also extremely thought provoking. You like 0:19:00.680 --> 0:19:04.800 to talk about things interest you're not you don't like 0:19:04.840 --> 0:19:07.280 to talk about like my I'm not going to say 0:19:07.320 --> 0:19:09.120 what I was just going to say, but a lot 0:19:09.160 --> 0:19:13.040 of french Men who I've met outside of my past 0:19:13.440 --> 0:19:19.520 are like you, and so that's a compliment to you 0:19:19.600 --> 0:19:20.800 and to like to. 0:19:20.800 --> 0:19:21.560 I think that people. 0:19:21.840 --> 0:19:25.240 I think that people aren't expecting you to be so thoughtful, 0:19:25.440 --> 0:19:28.240 and I don't think I don't think people were. Probably 0:19:28.440 --> 0:19:32.159 I think that probably the viewers were taken aback that 0:19:32.240 --> 0:19:38.439 you asked her something that was really like heartfelt versus 0:19:38.480 --> 0:19:42.960 something that was like topical. I mean, I mean, I 0:19:43.040 --> 0:19:46.240 think it was probably like people were like, whoa. 0:19:45.760 --> 0:19:48.480 You know, I was you know, actually today I was 0:19:48.520 --> 0:19:50.960 going into the social media and I saw you posting 0:19:51.040 --> 0:19:54.520 sometimes white frenchmen like fog legs. 0:19:55.040 --> 0:20:00.639