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Speaker 1: This is Straight Fire with Jason McIntyre. What is up.

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Speaker 2: Straight firefam, It's me Jason McIntyre. Straight Fire for Wednesday,

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Speaker 2: September eighteenth, Little hump day action on straight Fire. We

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Speaker 2: got Albert Breer popping over. Buddy of mine, have known

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Speaker 2: him for a while. Good reporter with SI now the

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Speaker 2: insider for the Amazon crew on Thursday Night Football. He's

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Speaker 2: got a good one. Jet's Patriots. Okay, fine, it's not

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Speaker 2: gonna be a good one. Probably sixteen thirteen thirteen ten

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Speaker 2: garbage game. Jets better win. So I think you'll like it.

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Speaker 2: We talk about two going on the ir his future.

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Speaker 2: Will the Dolphins pay him out? Will he not? You

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Speaker 2: know a lot of interesting angles there. Derek Carr in

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Speaker 2: the Saints. I think you guys are gonna like it.

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Speaker 2: We slip in some college football shatter at the end,

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Speaker 2: Carson Beck Fans, cover your ears. You're not gonna like it.

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Speaker 2: Before we get to that, just two quick things and

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Speaker 2: we'll get to Breer. Number one. Somebody helped me understand

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Speaker 2: what's going on with the Seattle Miami line. So it

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Speaker 2: was when it was Skyler. Obviously it was gonna be

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Speaker 2: Skyler Thompson. It opened at Seattle six and all we've

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Speaker 2: seen is money on Miami and Skyler Thompson is six

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Speaker 2: down to four and a half. As I record this

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Speaker 2: early on Wednesday morning, I'm trying to understand why that is. Now,

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Speaker 2: could this be a dummy move? Hey, let's limits are low,

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Speaker 2: Let's push down the line, and then let's come over

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Speaker 2: the top when they raise limits with big money on

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Speaker 2: Seattle at home. So here's the angle pro Seattle. So

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Speaker 2: Skyler Thompson, we know, is limited inexperience. He's only been

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Speaker 3: He was actually a sixth round pick.

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Speaker 2: Perty was seventh in the same draft, so Thompson had

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Speaker 2: to fill in for Tua during the concussions. It showed

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Speaker 2: well in the playoff game against Buffalo in twenty twenty

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Speaker 2: two and got the cover actually on the road. Buffalo's

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Speaker 2: defense didn't show up. I remember because I had the

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Speaker 2: Bills in that one. And Thompson, I don't think he

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Speaker 2: now he gets extra time to prepare for Seattle, so

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Speaker 2: he has to go on the road to the Seahawks

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Speaker 2: the Seahawks, despite being two and oh, are one and

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Speaker 2: one against the spread. They pushed in the opener against Denver,

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Speaker 2: basically handing Denver. Was it twelve points? I think it

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Speaker 2: was twelve thirteen maybe I don't know. Two safeties and

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Speaker 2: two field goals that would be something like ten points.

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Speaker 2: I can't do math this early anyways, that was all

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Speaker 2: courtesy of Seattle. It's not like Denver was able to

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Speaker 2: move the football, but it was rookie bo Nicks. So

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Speaker 2: then the next week the Patriots were able to hang around.

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Speaker 2: The game goes to overtime. Patriots are in good shape

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Speaker 2: in that one, and you know, Gino Smith has like

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Speaker 2: an awesome game and they pull out the victory, but

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Speaker 2: they don't cover three and a half. I can't tell

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Speaker 2: if Seattle's underperforming the market or the market's just too

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Speaker 2: high on them now. The Kenneth Walker injury obviously is significant.

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Speaker 2: Not having him makes them a pass first team, and

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Speaker 2: you want to be able to run the football. You

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Speaker 2: saw what Buffalo did to Miami. It was just they

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Speaker 2: ran all over them. Some troubling numbers from the Seattle defense,

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Speaker 2: which has a shit ton of talent. By the way,

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Speaker 2: Tarik Woolan is the number one graded cornerback and corner

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Speaker 2: of PFF. However, that's against bo Nicks and Jacoby Brissett.

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Speaker 2: Brissette did not throw the ball a lot. He threw

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Speaker 2: for one hundred twenty five yards actually, and they rushed.

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Speaker 2: That's how they kept in the game. Rushed for a

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Speaker 2: the Patriots have been a little more frisky than expected.

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Speaker 2: Now the other side of the coin, Skuyler Thompson has

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Speaker 2: Everybody knows that McDonald has has done a damn good

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Speaker 2: think bo Nicks looked totally lost, and again Pssett just

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Speaker 2: In the opener, Seattle was favored by six against bo

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Speaker 2: clearly too much as the Packers won against the Colts

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Speaker 2: at home. What's the difference between TWA and Skyler Thompson

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Speaker 2: wonder if Skyler's not delivering, does Tyreek Hill start to

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Speaker 2: And I did already bet Seattle, and now I feel

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Speaker 2: Miami has the lowest graded out of ninety eight slot cornerbacks.

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Speaker 2: They have the lowest graded guy. I'm spacing on his name,

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Speaker 2: but he's these dead last. Okay, so you're telling me

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Speaker 2: backdoors is gonna always be open when you got Tyreek Hill,

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Speaker 2: get to beer this Cheryl Swoops. Lady, my gosh, listen,

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Speaker 2: I'm just gonna say two statements. Number one, Cheryl Swoops

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Speaker 2: was an incredible basketball player and all time great, a

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Speaker 2: Hall of Famer, blah blah blah. Her hate of Kitlin

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Speaker 2: Clark is clouding her judgment. So she went on some pie.

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Speaker 2: I think it was Gilbert Arenas and she's like, Kitlin

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Speaker 2: Cheryl swoops, And this is where Gilbert reading is and

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Speaker 2: these guys, you know, they don't bring numbers to the table.

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Speaker 2: Cheryl soops with the MVP. In her fourth year in

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Speaker 2: Cheryl Soops four years. The league undeniably is better than

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Speaker 2: just I mean, honestly, some of these guys, I know,

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Speaker 2: these athletes didn't want to be You go back and

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Speaker 2: Swoops because she's a legend. So what she's she's trashing

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Speaker 2: WNBA playoffs coming up. Feel the excitement?

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Speaker 4: All right?

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Speaker 2: Without further ado, let's get to SI's Albert Breer.

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Speaker 1: Fox Sports Radio has the best sports talk lineup in

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Speaker 1: listen live. You know a guy, Jason likes to think

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Speaker 1: he knows everything when it comes to sports. I know

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Speaker 1: what sports fans want, but for everything he doesn't he

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Speaker 1: knows a guy who does. Let's just say I.

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Speaker 2: Know a guy who knows a guy who knows another guy.

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Speaker 2: All right, let's welcome into straight fire. A guy you know.

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Speaker 2: He's been covering the NFL forever Sports Illustrated and and

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Speaker 2: he now is Amazon's newest sideline reporter for the big

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Speaker 2: Thursday night games. Albert Breer, how are you, mo, man?

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Speaker 3: I think sideline reporter is probably wrong. I'm not.

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Speaker 5: I'm not infringing on Kaylee's turf here. I guess I'd

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Speaker 5: be there insider lot.

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Speaker 2: Inside, Okay, inside, this is even better, A little step

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Speaker 2: up as an insider. That's awesome, man, congrats, how do

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Speaker 3: It's good. It's good. I mean the crew is awesome,

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Speaker 5: I you know, I like getting to know Carissa better

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Speaker 5: Mike Mariano, like who I just you know, it's made

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Speaker 3: It really I think it comes across how they genuinely

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Speaker 5: And yeah, that's been my experience working there now too,

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Speaker 5: Like well, it just seems like a really good team,

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Speaker 5: give it time. Yeah, Oh yeah, so far, so good.

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Speaker 2: You guys got a big one this week, Jets Patriots.

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Speaker 2: I'm sure you'll probably are you traveling. You're traveling, right.

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Speaker 2: Pretty sick office. I got to upgrade mine if you can,

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Speaker 2: we'll get to Jet's Patriots. I do want to go

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean the Saints have been eye opening what

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Speaker 5: Ninety one points in the first two weeks, and that's

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Speaker 5: It won't be as the Saints offensive coordinator. It'll be

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Speaker 2: Now, this is interesting because he's from the Shanahan Tree.

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Speaker 2: I guess we'll call him a Shanahan guy. He's there live. Yeah.

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Speaker 5: Well, I mean he's about as much for the Shanahan

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Speaker 5: I think there's something to that, you know, and we

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Speaker 5: I think the beauty of that system is so quarterback friendly, right,

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Speaker 3: Out of the college game.

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Speaker 5: Right. So these guys are coming out of the college

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Speaker 2: So that's interesting that you say that the Shanahan system

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Speaker 5: I think quarterback play is pretty good in the NFL,

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Speaker 5: right now, Okay, hold on, let me there is some

432
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Speaker 5: but there is.

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Speaker 3: But but you're right, you're right, you're right. Like, I

434
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Speaker 3: think what you're saying is one as bad as really bad.

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Speaker 2: So like Falcons Eagles Monday Albert before that final Kirk

436
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Speaker 2: Cousins drive against you know, passive Vic Fangio defense, Kirk

437
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Speaker 2: Cousins was at like a buck seventy passing and Jalen

438
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Speaker 2: Hurts had like one seventy five or whatever it was.

439
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Speaker 5: Down Cousins defense. I think he had played pretty well.

440
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Speaker 5: It was just their run game was really rolling.

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Speaker 2: The run game was rolling. But then you look around

442
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Speaker 2: the league and there's like and again, I know, three

443
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Speaker 2: hundred is an arbitrary number, but like, so few guys

444
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Speaker 2: are passing for three hundred yards anymore? Yeah, Like what

445
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Speaker 2: is It's got to be more than the too high show,

446
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Speaker 2: which defenses have been throwing at for a couple of

447
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Speaker 2: years now.

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Speaker 3: I think that's part of it.

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Speaker 5: Like, and I think, like, you know, I remember having

450
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Speaker 5: this conversation with with Chip Kelly when he got to UCLA, right,

451
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Speaker 5: and I asked him, you know what he learned, what

452
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Speaker 5: he learned from being in the NFL. And his whole

453
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Speaker 5: thing was like everything's one in the margins, right, Like

454
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Speaker 5: everything's one of the margins, and everything is about situations

455
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Speaker 5: where like in college, third down, in red zone and

456
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Speaker 5: all that stuff matters, like in the pros it's everything, right,

457
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Speaker 5: and like it's this big cat and mouse game where

458
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Speaker 5: everybody's catching up to everybody constantly. And I said, well,

459
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Speaker 5: some of the stuff that you did was revolutionary and

460
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Speaker 5: has been adopted by people, Like people are doing some

461
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Speaker 5: of the stuff that you were doing, and it's going

462
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Speaker 5: to be in the NFL forever when it comes to

463
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Speaker 5: the no huddle tempo stuff obviously some of the spread

464
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Speaker 5: run game stuff. And his answer was really interesting. He said,

465
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Speaker 5: to me, nothing's revolutionary in football. He's like, everything's evolutionary.

466
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Speaker 5: He says, a big circle. And then he brought this

467
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Speaker 5: up to me, goes he goes, you know, RPOs, and

468
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Speaker 5: I'm like, yeah, he's like a guy named dutch Meyer

469
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Speaker 5: random at TCU in the late forties and he's like

470
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Speaker 5: they just didn't call it that, right, Like he's like,

471
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Speaker 5: they didn't call them run past options. But if you

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Speaker 5: go back and you look and you can find the

473
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Speaker 5: black and white tape, you'll find out that that's what

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Speaker 5: they were running. And I think it was a good

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Speaker 5: conversation for me to have because it really is what

476
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Speaker 5: football is. You know, it's everybody doing one thing and

477
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Speaker 5: then catching up to the next, right the RPOs. If

478
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Speaker 5: you remember, like when Nick Foles, you know, and the

479
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Speaker 5: Eagles won a Super Bowl with it in twenty sixteen,

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Speaker 5: you know, we saw the offensive explosion when you saw

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Speaker 5: Andy Reid bringing in a lot of the concepts from

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Speaker 5: the spread game. He had Chrissalt from Nevada on his

483
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Speaker 5: staff for a while, and they were doing a lot

484
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Speaker 5: of the movement like the stuff from the spread game,

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Speaker 5: and they they they they were unstoppable for a little while.

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Speaker 5: That Rams Chiefs game, was it twenty eighteen, seventeen eighteen?

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Speaker 3: Right there?

488
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Speaker 2: They were like fifty four fifty one or something.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, the game out of the Monday night game

490
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Speaker 5: was supposed to be in Mexico and the turf enough

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Speaker 5: so got moved to La you know, Like, I just

492
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Speaker 5: think these things go in ebbs and flows, you know

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Speaker 5: what I mean like, and I think like we all

494
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Speaker 5: look for some greater meaning in it, and the truth

495
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Speaker 5: is like in a lot of cases, it's just coaches

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Speaker 5: caught up to certain things that are happening. So, you know,

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Speaker 5: you mentioned the Shanahan offense is all over the NFL.

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Speaker 5: I haven't looked into this, but maybe that's where it is.

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Speaker 5: Maybe there's an element of the Shanahan offense, of that

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Speaker 5: style of offense that people have caught up to, and

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Speaker 5: it's affected the way that certain quarterbacks are playing.

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Speaker 3: You know, I think more than anything else, that's what

503
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Speaker 3: it is.

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Speaker 5: You know, offenses will rebound because ultimately what will end

505
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Speaker 5: up happening is if you know, defenses catch up to offenses,

506
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Speaker 5: then offenses come up with a CounterPunch.

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Speaker 2: Let me ask you quick about some news that just

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Speaker 2: broke here recently to us headed to the IR not

513
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Speaker 2: a major surprise. I saw he told your buddy Rapaport,

514
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Speaker 2: or maybe he was through his agent or whatever, that

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Speaker 2: he has no plans to retire. I did have a

516
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Speaker 2: just a dad that I know a little bit was

517
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Speaker 2: telling me, hey, you should look into his contract because

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Speaker 2: if he's not able to come back, I guess, you know,

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Speaker 2: if he's not medically cleared, I guess the Dolphins get

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Speaker 2: out of paying him or something interesting. But what's your

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Speaker 2: best guess on to it. Is he done or do

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Speaker 2: you think he actually comes back?

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Speaker 5: Because no, I mean, let's let's start with the IR

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Speaker 5: part of it, right, which I think with the IR

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Speaker 5: part of what like I thought the night had happened,

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Speaker 5: you know, I felt like they were they had to

527
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Speaker 5: put him on IR. Yeah, it takes him out for

528
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Speaker 5: four weeks, right. I think what that does is it

529
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Speaker 5: takes the pressure off of everybody. It takes the pressure

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Speaker 5: off the team, It takes the pressure off of Tua.

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Speaker 5: It just takes the pressure off the doctor, takes the

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Speaker 5: pressure off of everybody. Like, now we don't need to

533
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Speaker 5: rush anything, We don't need to make some sort of

534
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Speaker 5: rash decision. Now you know, he can go get the

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Speaker 5: information from the specialists, he can decompress, he can process everything.

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Speaker 5: So I think that was the right first step is

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Speaker 5: to put him on injured reserve. So now he's on

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Speaker 5: injured reserve. So so now it's next the contract part

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Speaker 5: of it, Like he would have to not be able

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Speaker 5: to pass a pen, like he would have to for

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Speaker 5: the injury guaranteed to trigger, he would have to he

542
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Speaker 5: would have to have doctors saying that he cannot physically

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Speaker 5: go and play football anymore. Like it would have to

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Speaker 5: be a legitimate career ending injury. In a lot of

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Speaker 5: cases like that, you would have a fight. Would there

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Speaker 5: be a fight in this one? I don't know how

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Speaker 5: the Dolphins would react if that were part of the equation.

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Speaker 3: So that would be if he decided to retire.

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Speaker 5: A lot of how the money would work would be

550
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Speaker 5: whether or not it was a voluntary retirement or if

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Speaker 5: a doctor's felt like this forced them out of the game.

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Speaker 3: Again, that can lead to a fight and everything else.

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Speaker 5: If the injury trigger guarantee does trigger, then there's insurance

554
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Speaker 5: that teams take out on players.

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Speaker 3: That's part of the deal.

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Speaker 5: And I mean there's just a million things that will

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Speaker 5: make everybody out there's eyes glaze over on that. I

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Speaker 5: think I think he is going to come. I think

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Speaker 5: he is gonna at least try to come back. I

560
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Speaker 5: know he's already met with specialists. I think you have

561
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Speaker 5: to understand the mentality of the athlete. J McK and

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Speaker 5: I've thought a lot about this, right because I work

563
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Speaker 5: with athletes, and I you know, like all the different

564
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Speaker 5: guys that I've gotten to know over the years through

565
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Speaker 5: covering them, through you know, working with them at the

566
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Speaker 5: different media places I've worked at. Just put yourself in

567
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Speaker 5: these shoes, right, Okay. Let's say you're so good at

568
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Speaker 5: something when you are a teenager that it becomes your identity,

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Speaker 5: and then you get to go to college for free

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Speaker 5: for it, and then you become a millionaire because of it,

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Speaker 5: and you've got all these different ancillary things that come

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Speaker 5: to you in your life because of it, and everything

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Speaker 5: that you are, or so much of what you are,

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Speaker 5: has been based.

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Speaker 3: On that, right on that identity.

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Speaker 5: Okay, and then someone comes when you're thirty two, thirty

577
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Speaker 5: three years old and taps you on the shoulder and says,

578
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Speaker 5: you can never do this again. Right. It's different than

579
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Speaker 5: basketball and baseball. You can't play football again. Right, So

580
00:27:37,480 --> 00:27:39,239
Speaker 5: somebody taps you on your shoulder, you have more than

581
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Speaker 5: half your life to live. If things go well, and

582
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Speaker 5: tells you you can never do this thing that's been

583
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Speaker 5: your identity. You know how hard that is psychologically, It's

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Speaker 5: got to be difficult. Now, imagine that happens like at

585
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Speaker 5: the drop of a hat. There's no runway to it.

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Speaker 3: It happens to the drop of the hat. When you're

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Speaker 3: in your twenties. Would you walk away?

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Speaker 2: Well, I don't know if it depends on you give

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Speaker 2: me one hundred and thirty seven million dollars, right, But I.

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Speaker 5: Mean, like even like that, like that, and I think

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Speaker 5: that's the way that that's the way all of us

592
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Speaker 5: reason it, right, Like that's the way that.

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Speaker 2: Every haven't been there.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, well that's the way with that, I mean, like that,

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Speaker 5: that's my reasoning on it. Like my logic on it

596
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Speaker 5: is like, shoot, man, take the money and go home

597
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Speaker 5: and live.

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Speaker 3: A great life, you know what I mean. I think

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Speaker 3: as we all think.

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Speaker 2: He could slide into the booth, he could he could

601
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Speaker 2: start a podcast, you know, yeah, I could do it.

602
00:28:24,760 --> 00:28:29,160
Speaker 5: Well anything replaced for him, like running through that tunnel

603
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Speaker 5: and being the voice that everybody listens to in the

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Speaker 5: huddle and like every day knowing I'm one of the

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Speaker 5: best in the world that does this like will or

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Speaker 5: does he want to keep chasing it?

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Speaker 1: You know?

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Speaker 5: And I just think that's such a hard thing. I would,

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Speaker 5: you know, And I know this is on a competitor

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Speaker 5: of yours, and I hope you don't have to cut

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Speaker 5: it out, Elijah. If you have to cut this out,

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Speaker 5: I'm sorry, But you know, like, like I thought, Teddy

613
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Speaker 5: Bruski brought great insight on it on ESPN the other

614
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Speaker 5: day where Teddy said, you know, explained why he came

615
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Speaker 5: back from from a stroke.

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Speaker 3: And I was.

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Speaker 5: Covering the Patriots when that happened, and I remember when

618
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Speaker 5: that happened, and I remember thinking when that I was like,

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Speaker 5: my god, this guy's really trying to come back, Like

620
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Speaker 5: why would you do that if you were him? And

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Speaker 5: that was a guy who had I mean, I mean

622
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Speaker 5: I had three rings, you know what I mean. Like

623
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Speaker 5: that guy may have had less reason to come back

624
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Speaker 5: than than Tua, does you know. And he was older

625
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Speaker 5: and he had at that point he I mean, Tuoa

626
00:29:28,960 --> 00:29:32,840
Speaker 5: has a family too, but at that point his kids were.

627
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Speaker 3: A little older than two his our.

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Speaker 5: So it's just I think it's like a psychologically difficult

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Speaker 5: decision to reckon with for an athlete, and something that

630
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Speaker 5: the rest of us.

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Speaker 3: I don't know.

632
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Speaker 5: I think it's important that we respect like that. That's

633
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Speaker 5: something that's really difficult for the rest of us to

634
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Speaker 5: relate with.

635
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Speaker 2: At the same time, and this is going to come

636
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Speaker 2: off harsh. Do you think the league is concerned that

637
00:29:53,240 --> 00:29:57,440
Speaker 2: he's had so many high profile concussions that. I mean,

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Speaker 2: I'm not saying there's a chance he's going to die

639
00:29:59,040 --> 00:30:01,600
Speaker 2: on the field or something ma Coobb like that, but

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Speaker 2: you know, I think the league has to certainly be worried.

641
00:30:04,240 --> 00:30:06,640
Speaker 2: Like the visions of Tua and these injuries. Man, that

642
00:30:06,840 --> 00:30:08,480
Speaker 2: one at the Bengals game, the one of the Bills

643
00:30:08,640 --> 00:30:10,520
Speaker 2: we stood up and then fell down, or against the

644
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Speaker 2: Bills in Miami, Like, these aren't good images, all.

645
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Speaker 3: Right, Yeah, I mean there's two things here.

646
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Speaker 5: As a quarterback, right, so it's like different than anything

647
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Speaker 5: else in any other position. B I've covered the NFL

648
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Speaker 5: for twenty years. I think I've only seen the fencing

649
00:30:23,960 --> 00:30:26,800
Speaker 5: posture twice. Now, to be fair, I haven't looked for it.

650
00:30:26,880 --> 00:30:29,400
Speaker 5: But can you remember seeing it in any other athlete?

651
00:30:29,440 --> 00:30:31,880
Speaker 5: The fencing posture? You know I'm talking about?

652
00:30:31,960 --> 00:30:35,640
Speaker 2: Right, There was a Chargers receiver against the Chiefs in

653
00:30:35,680 --> 00:30:38,520
Speaker 2: the end zone. I'm spacing on his day. It wasn't Palmer,

654
00:30:39,200 --> 00:30:41,000
Speaker 2: and I think it was last year or two years

655
00:30:41,040 --> 00:30:44,240
Speaker 2: ago doing okay, okay, and I think maybe he had

656
00:30:44,280 --> 00:30:44,920
Speaker 2: it maybe all right.

657
00:30:44,960 --> 00:30:45,960
Speaker 3: So the point is it's rare.

658
00:30:46,240 --> 00:30:50,040
Speaker 5: It's in a sport work concussions are common, even in

659
00:30:50,040 --> 00:30:53,719
Speaker 5: that sport, it's rare. So I mean just the visual

660
00:30:53,800 --> 00:30:56,400
Speaker 5: of that, I mean, I you know, talking to doctors

661
00:30:56,440 --> 00:30:58,960
Speaker 5: that the way they term that it's an involuntary reaction

662
00:30:59,080 --> 00:31:02,720
Speaker 5: from the brain and indicates a serious brain injury. It's

663
00:31:02,760 --> 00:31:07,160
Speaker 5: just hearing those words, it's difficult for anybody to kind

664
00:31:07,160 --> 00:31:09,840
Speaker 5: of like stomach like, how could that guy go back

665
00:31:09,880 --> 00:31:10,320
Speaker 5: out there?

666
00:31:10,520 --> 00:31:11,120
Speaker 3: You know what I mean.

667
00:31:11,200 --> 00:31:14,640
Speaker 5: Like, So I just think, you know, for the league,

668
00:31:14,400 --> 00:31:17,840
Speaker 5: I think for the league, it's like they've this has

669
00:31:17,840 --> 00:31:21,440
Speaker 5: been a human problem for them and also a public

670
00:31:21,440 --> 00:31:27,680
Speaker 5: relations problem for them. And so I'm sure like everyone

671
00:31:27,720 --> 00:31:30,080
Speaker 5: in that league office would be it's going to be

672
00:31:30,080 --> 00:31:31,960
Speaker 5: on pins and needles if he comes back about the

673
00:31:32,000 --> 00:31:32,520
Speaker 5: idea of it.

674
00:31:32,720 --> 00:31:36,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, all right, we'll buzz through a couple early season

675
00:31:36,400 --> 00:31:38,760
Speaker 2: things you can say. I know, you're a big guy

676
00:31:38,760 --> 00:31:42,040
Speaker 2: in the league now, obviously as a reporter for Insider,

677
00:31:42,120 --> 00:31:45,040
Speaker 2: for Amazon, but we could do something like are they

678
00:31:45,080 --> 00:31:50,920
Speaker 2: for real or is this kind of fraudulent fugazi Seattle Seahawks.

679
00:31:51,960 --> 00:31:54,360
Speaker 3: I think they're like a good five hundred team. Oh,

680
00:31:54,400 --> 00:31:55,720
Speaker 3: I think they're right in there.

681
00:31:55,840 --> 00:31:56,040
Speaker 2: Yeah.

682
00:31:56,080 --> 00:31:59,520
Speaker 5: I mean, I'll give you one take here. I think

683
00:31:59,560 --> 00:32:02,720
Speaker 5: the NFC West has four good teams in it. All

684
00:32:02,760 --> 00:32:05,720
Speaker 5: four of those teams are good teams. I think Seattle

685
00:32:05,760 --> 00:32:08,080
Speaker 5: has got a collection of second and third year players

686
00:32:08,480 --> 00:32:11,560
Speaker 5: that most people have missed, Guys like Charles Cross and

687
00:32:11,560 --> 00:32:13,880
Speaker 5: Abe Lucas and Jackson's Spit the Chig Button, boy a

688
00:32:13,960 --> 00:32:19,240
Speaker 5: Mafe and you know Rieke Wollen. It's really the Kenneth Walker.

689
00:32:19,280 --> 00:32:24,360
Speaker 5: It's the it's the result of the two Russell Wilson drafts.

690
00:32:24,760 --> 00:32:26,760
Speaker 5: They really hit on a lot of guys those two years,

691
00:32:26,800 --> 00:32:28,920
Speaker 5: and those guys are second and third year players. Now.

692
00:32:29,280 --> 00:32:30,040
Speaker 3: I think Gino is.

693
00:32:30,080 --> 00:32:32,160
Speaker 5: Much better than people realize. I think a lot of

694
00:32:32,200 --> 00:32:34,840
Speaker 5: people haven't let go of like when back when you

695
00:32:34,880 --> 00:32:39,080
Speaker 5: were rooting for. Yeah, but I think they're a good

696
00:32:39,080 --> 00:32:39,880
Speaker 5: five hundred.

697
00:32:39,640 --> 00:32:42,680
Speaker 2: Team and Nuoshu's going to be coming back to them

698
00:32:42,760 --> 00:32:46,840
Speaker 2: later this season too, right, Okay, Arizona Cardinals offense, should

699
00:32:46,840 --> 00:32:48,320
Speaker 2: we expect this to continue.

700
00:32:48,800 --> 00:32:52,360
Speaker 5: Yeah, man, And I uh, I mean, you know, I

701
00:32:53,120 --> 00:32:56,080
Speaker 5: think like people are now learning why I was screaming

702
00:32:56,080 --> 00:32:59,160
Speaker 5: from the mountaintops not to overthink things on Marvin Harrison

703
00:32:59,280 --> 00:33:00,840
Speaker 5: back in the spring, because I got to watch him

704
00:33:00,840 --> 00:33:02,640
Speaker 5: for three years. And I'm not a scout or a coach,

705
00:33:03,320 --> 00:33:05,800
Speaker 5: but like I mean, like what I saw on Sunday

706
00:33:05,880 --> 00:33:08,280
Speaker 5: was what I watched for three years. That didn't surprise me.

707
00:33:08,720 --> 00:33:10,960
Speaker 5: And all due respect to Malik neighbors in Roma Donze,

708
00:33:11,080 --> 00:33:13,240
Speaker 5: but this is the best receiver prospect in over a

709
00:33:13,280 --> 00:33:15,960
Speaker 5: decade to come in the NFL, and I think he

710
00:33:16,040 --> 00:33:18,560
Speaker 5: changes the dynamic for them, you know. And they have

711
00:33:18,600 --> 00:33:20,880
Speaker 5: a left tackle now too, who they drafted high in

712
00:33:20,880 --> 00:33:23,240
Speaker 5: the first round last year in Paris Johnson, who also

713
00:33:23,320 --> 00:33:24,360
Speaker 5: happened to go to my own matter.

714
00:33:24,760 --> 00:33:27,840
Speaker 3: And I think Kyler, I.

715
00:33:27,840 --> 00:33:30,320
Speaker 5: Think it's interesting. I think Kyler took the video game

716
00:33:30,360 --> 00:33:35,800
Speaker 5: stuff personally, that's just me talking, but minor sing is

717
00:33:35,840 --> 00:33:37,680
Speaker 5: he's been a different person in the building since that,

718
00:33:38,360 --> 00:33:41,280
Speaker 5: and he's really been locked in on learning the offense

719
00:33:41,440 --> 00:33:43,600
Speaker 5: that he's running now, which is another one of the

720
00:33:43,640 --> 00:33:44,400
Speaker 5: it's another.

721
00:33:44,200 --> 00:33:46,760
Speaker 3: Like Shanahan ish style offense.

722
00:33:46,880 --> 00:33:51,040
Speaker 5: Right working with Drew bettsing in Minnesota who Petsing worked

723
00:33:51,120 --> 00:33:57,560
Speaker 5: under Kubiak in Minnesota and worked under Stefanski in Minneso

724
00:33:58,000 --> 00:34:01,600
Speaker 5: in Cleveland and Kyler. If you go back and you

725
00:34:01,640 --> 00:34:04,400
Speaker 5: look at it, this is the first time he's had

726
00:34:05,640 --> 00:34:07,880
Speaker 5: had to run a new offense since before high school

727
00:34:08,320 --> 00:34:09,960
Speaker 5: because he ran the he ran the air raid in

728
00:34:10,040 --> 00:34:10,520
Speaker 5: high school.

729
00:34:10,520 --> 00:34:12,880
Speaker 3: He ran the air raid at at A and.

730
00:34:13,000 --> 00:34:15,719
Speaker 5: M and then and then at Oklahoma, and then he

731
00:34:15,920 --> 00:34:18,640
Speaker 5: ran the air Raid under Cliff his first four years

732
00:34:18,680 --> 00:34:21,120
Speaker 5: in the pros in Arizona. So this is the first

733
00:34:21,160 --> 00:34:23,400
Speaker 5: time he's had to learn a new offense. So he

734
00:34:23,480 --> 00:34:27,400
Speaker 5: really took on that challenge. He's been very diligent since

735
00:34:27,480 --> 00:34:29,480
Speaker 5: the whole thing with the video game.

736
00:34:29,360 --> 00:34:30,280
Speaker 3: Stuff, and.

737
00:34:31,960 --> 00:34:34,160
Speaker 5: You know, I I I They've they've He's been in

738
00:34:34,200 --> 00:34:36,400
Speaker 5: the building more consistently too. He's been a participant in

739
00:34:36,400 --> 00:34:38,319
Speaker 5: their offseason program in the last two years, which he

740
00:34:38,400 --> 00:34:40,680
Speaker 5: wasn't before. And he played pretty well at the end

741
00:34:40,719 --> 00:34:42,440
Speaker 5: of last year if you look at it, and that

742
00:34:42,560 --> 00:34:45,439
Speaker 5: was without the benefit of any OTA's or mini camp

743
00:34:45,440 --> 00:34:48,200
Speaker 5: in the spring or training camp in the summer, and

744
00:34:49,040 --> 00:34:51,759
Speaker 5: with and after having lost what was it, more than

745
00:34:51,840 --> 00:34:53,439
Speaker 5: half of the regular season last year.

746
00:34:53,560 --> 00:34:54,600
Speaker 1: So yeah, I.

747
00:34:54,520 --> 00:34:56,040
Speaker 3: Think he's in a good spot. I think they're in

748
00:34:56,080 --> 00:34:57,040
Speaker 3: a good spot.

749
00:34:57,480 --> 00:35:01,279
Speaker 5: I think Arizona is right there with Seattle where I

750
00:35:01,320 --> 00:35:03,920
Speaker 5: think we're going to turn around and Christmas around Christmas

751
00:35:03,920 --> 00:35:05,239
Speaker 5: and both those teams are still going to be in

752
00:35:05,239 --> 00:35:05,680
Speaker 5: the hunt.

753
00:35:05,760 --> 00:35:09,279
Speaker 2: Yeah, Brian Dabole, what's the level of def Con one?

754
00:35:09,480 --> 00:35:11,319
Speaker 2: It would be he's going to get fired in deep

755
00:35:11,360 --> 00:35:13,839
Speaker 2: trouble or you think he's in okay shape because he's

756
00:35:13,840 --> 00:35:16,320
Speaker 2: going to have suitors if they do run him out.

757
00:35:16,600 --> 00:35:18,279
Speaker 5: It sounds weird, but I think some of it's going

758
00:35:18,360 --> 00:35:22,040
Speaker 5: to come down to Dally Handles, the heat getting turned

759
00:35:22,120 --> 00:35:24,160
Speaker 5: up on him a little, because I think like the

760
00:35:24,200 --> 00:35:27,640
Speaker 5: heat it's not coming internally, but like being in New York,

761
00:35:27,719 --> 00:35:30,400
Speaker 5: you know this. I mean, I would say like that

762
00:35:30,600 --> 00:35:32,920
Speaker 5: had an effect on the Joe Judge era because the

763
00:35:33,040 --> 00:35:34,400
Speaker 5: Maras and Tshes.

764
00:35:35,120 --> 00:35:37,799
Speaker 4: They abhor the way they're looked at now, right like,

765
00:35:38,320 --> 00:35:41,520
Speaker 4: because they feel like they're the Yankees, right like they're

766
00:35:41,560 --> 00:35:46,160
Speaker 4: the Steelers, They're the Packers, They're they're this bastion of

767
00:35:46,400 --> 00:35:52,400
Speaker 4: stability in an otherwise unstable league, right and they forever

768
00:35:52,640 --> 00:35:53,160
Speaker 4: have been.

769
00:35:53,080 --> 00:35:56,160
Speaker 5: Patient with their coaches and patient with their front office people.

770
00:35:57,080 --> 00:36:02,040
Speaker 5: They fired coaches after or two three times in a row.

771
00:36:02,480 --> 00:36:04,239
Speaker 5: And the reason they were a big reason they were

772
00:36:04,280 --> 00:36:05,880
Speaker 5: reluctant to do it with Judge and it took that

773
00:36:05,880 --> 00:36:07,920
Speaker 5: press conference at the end for it actually to happen

774
00:36:08,280 --> 00:36:09,759
Speaker 5: is because they didn't want to have it happen a

775
00:36:09,800 --> 00:36:12,200
Speaker 5: third straight time after it happened with Macadoon Shermer.

776
00:36:12,719 --> 00:36:13,160
Speaker 3: And so.

777
00:36:15,880 --> 00:36:18,200
Speaker 5: The Maras and the tissues do not want to fire

778
00:36:18,360 --> 00:36:20,799
Speaker 5: Brian Daball and Joe Shane. They do not want to

779
00:36:20,840 --> 00:36:25,239
Speaker 5: do that. And I think that there's still like that,

780
00:36:26,160 --> 00:36:29,520
Speaker 5: like he proved it year one, right, he proved it

781
00:36:30,560 --> 00:36:34,640
Speaker 5: in winning thirteen games, and so like I think they

782
00:36:34,640 --> 00:36:37,040
Speaker 5: believe in the plan, they believe in what's happening here.

783
00:36:37,480 --> 00:36:39,840
Speaker 5: I guess because it's New York, the heat gets turned up,

784
00:36:39,880 --> 00:36:43,919
Speaker 5: it can affect the way people people operate. Maybe there's

785
00:36:43,920 --> 00:36:46,480
Speaker 5: a chance, but my guess would be that Dave All

786
00:36:46,520 --> 00:36:47,759
Speaker 5: survives one way or the other.

787
00:36:48,760 --> 00:36:54,319
Speaker 2: Okay, A final question Jets Patriots. Aaron Rodgers returns home

788
00:36:54,360 --> 00:36:57,600
Speaker 2: for hopefully the real first game in New York. Obviously

789
00:36:57,719 --> 00:37:00,440
Speaker 2: lasted forced naps last time. Any early thoughts on this

790
00:37:00,440 --> 00:37:03,480
Speaker 2: game Patriots look better than advertised games.

791
00:37:04,160 --> 00:37:06,080
Speaker 5: I think the Jets have spent a lot of resources

792
00:37:06,120 --> 00:37:08,480
Speaker 5: in the first two weeks trying to establish a running game.

793
00:37:08,560 --> 00:37:11,560
Speaker 5: And I'm sure you watch that game closely on Sunday.

794
00:37:11,840 --> 00:37:13,799
Speaker 5: I think you saw signs in the fourth quarter of

795
00:37:13,960 --> 00:37:16,600
Speaker 5: what they're trying to do where Brailn Allen breaks the

796
00:37:16,600 --> 00:37:19,440
Speaker 5: big run at the end. You know, Breest Hall was

797
00:37:19,480 --> 00:37:22,719
Speaker 5: able to get loose earlier in the game. They want

798
00:37:22,719 --> 00:37:24,759
Speaker 5: to build a team that doesn't need Aaron Rodgers to

799
00:37:24,800 --> 00:37:29,239
Speaker 5: be Hall of Famer Aaron Rodgers every play, right, So,

800
00:37:29,880 --> 00:37:32,480
Speaker 5: like I think you've seen that sort of come to light.

801
00:37:32,680 --> 00:37:35,120
Speaker 5: They're hoping it all comes together on Thursday night, this

802
00:37:35,360 --> 00:37:37,400
Speaker 5: sort of plan for starting the season and building an

803
00:37:37,400 --> 00:37:42,719
Speaker 5: identity offensively, you know. And then I think that the

804
00:37:42,840 --> 00:37:45,040
Speaker 5: question on defense is, you know, now, what happens with

805
00:37:45,120 --> 00:37:48,279
Speaker 5: us Son Reddick, with Jermaine Johnson having gone down, does

806
00:37:48,320 --> 00:37:50,800
Speaker 5: it turn up the heat a little on the Jets

807
00:37:50,840 --> 00:37:53,160
Speaker 5: to get something done because that's the strength of their team,

808
00:37:53,320 --> 00:37:55,640
Speaker 5: right is the defensive line, and that's a pretty significant

809
00:37:55,640 --> 00:37:58,000
Speaker 5: piece getting pulled out. So I'll be interested to see

810
00:37:58,000 --> 00:38:00,680
Speaker 5: how the Jets pass rush looks and how what the

811
00:38:00,680 --> 00:38:03,960
Speaker 5: offensive identity is against the Patriots, And I'll also be

812
00:38:04,040 --> 00:38:07,080
Speaker 5: interested to see if the Patriots what they've sort of

813
00:38:07,520 --> 00:38:11,400
Speaker 5: put in place, this like very narrow path to victory

814
00:38:11,440 --> 00:38:12,920
Speaker 5: that they have to take because of the talent of

815
00:38:12,960 --> 00:38:15,360
Speaker 5: the roster, right, which is like shorten the game with

816
00:38:15,440 --> 00:38:17,759
Speaker 5: the run game, don't ask too much in the passing game,

817
00:38:17,800 --> 00:38:21,959
Speaker 5: and went on defense. Yeah, we'll see how that translates.

818
00:38:21,960 --> 00:38:22,240
Speaker 2: Again.

819
00:38:22,360 --> 00:38:26,120
Speaker 5: I think against what I think is like the best opponent,

820
00:38:26,400 --> 00:38:28,640
Speaker 5: the best of the I don't think it'll end up

821
00:38:28,680 --> 00:38:31,120
Speaker 5: being the best opponent, but they got a weakened version

822
00:38:31,160 --> 00:38:33,919
Speaker 5: of the Bengals, and they got like a pretty good,

823
00:38:34,000 --> 00:38:36,480
Speaker 5: not great Seahawks team. I think this is a different

824
00:38:36,520 --> 00:38:38,759
Speaker 5: type of challenge and it'll be interesting to see how

825
00:38:38,840 --> 00:38:39,800
Speaker 5: they stand.

826
00:38:39,600 --> 00:38:39,960
Speaker 3: Up to it.

827
00:38:40,000 --> 00:38:42,319
Speaker 2: I'm worried about the Jets defense man can't stop the run.

828
00:38:42,640 --> 00:38:46,200
Speaker 2: You know, the injuries are mounting. Moseley, I don't know.

829
00:38:47,360 --> 00:38:49,799
Speaker 2: This just feels like sixteen thirteen game. Yeah, and you

830
00:38:49,800 --> 00:38:52,800
Speaker 2: can't lose to pricking Patriots, you know, cannot you can't,

831
00:38:53,040 --> 00:38:57,319
Speaker 2: all right, Albert Brier si Amazon, he's everywhere. He's blowing up,

832
00:38:57,360 --> 00:39:00,480
Speaker 2: if that's even possible. And as ohiosea Buckeyes should be

833
00:39:00,560 --> 00:39:02,240
Speaker 2: number one, but they're two behind Texas.

834
00:39:02,840 --> 00:39:05,279
Speaker 3: By the way, are you just saying that because I'm here? Yeah?

835
00:39:05,280 --> 00:39:07,279
Speaker 2: Basically no, No, I have a ticket on them to

836
00:39:07,320 --> 00:39:10,839
Speaker 2: win the title. Carson Beck, real quick, I'm sorry. I

837
00:39:10,880 --> 00:39:14,239
Speaker 2: have not seen anything resembling number one overall pick. And

838
00:39:14,320 --> 00:39:16,440
Speaker 2: I don't care that he's six four, two twenty with

839
00:39:16,480 --> 00:39:18,080
Speaker 2: a big arm. I don't care. I need to see more.

840
00:39:18,080 --> 00:39:18,840
Speaker 2: I'm not seeing anything.

841
00:39:18,880 --> 00:39:19,439
Speaker 3: Yeah, me too.

842
00:39:20,120 --> 00:39:24,680
Speaker 5: This is still I think this is this year. I

843
00:39:24,680 --> 00:39:26,680
Speaker 5: think we're sort of scratching and it's going to be

844
00:39:26,719 --> 00:39:29,839
Speaker 5: like who emerges, like this is an actual Like last year,

845
00:39:29,880 --> 00:39:31,319
Speaker 5: I think, like Caleb was the leader in the club

846
00:39:31,360 --> 00:39:33,040
Speaker 5: ass Star. We knew Drake May was going to be

847
00:39:33,080 --> 00:39:37,719
Speaker 5: a top three pick, you know, Like Jade Daniels sort

848
00:39:37,760 --> 00:39:38,480
Speaker 5: of came ou out.

849
00:39:38,320 --> 00:39:39,920
Speaker 3: Of nowhere, but we knew about him, you know what

850
00:39:39,920 --> 00:39:40,239
Speaker 3: I mean.

851
00:39:40,320 --> 00:39:41,880
Speaker 2: Like Carthy kind of came on strong.

852
00:39:42,000 --> 00:39:45,120
Speaker 3: Yeah. So, like I think with this year is different that.

853
00:39:45,239 --> 00:39:47,840
Speaker 5: I don't think any of those guys we've been talking

854
00:39:47,840 --> 00:39:52,520
Speaker 5: about the top, whether it's should do our Sanders, Carson Beck, Quinn, you,

855
00:39:52,640 --> 00:39:54,279
Speaker 5: or whoever you want to talk about up in that

856
00:39:54,360 --> 00:39:56,280
Speaker 5: top group, I don't think any.

857
00:39:56,080 --> 00:39:57,560
Speaker 3: Of them are sure of going that high.

858
00:39:57,719 --> 00:39:58,120
Speaker 1: Anymore.

859
00:39:58,360 --> 00:40:00,319
Speaker 3: We need to play really well to get there.

860
00:40:00,360 --> 00:40:02,080
Speaker 2: What about Kim Woreton Miami.

861
00:40:03,440 --> 00:40:07,920
Speaker 3: Have no, not yet, not yet. He's more from him.

862
00:40:07,960 --> 00:40:10,480
Speaker 5: But I think I think, I like, I think you

863
00:40:10,600 --> 00:40:14,399
Speaker 5: found out what the NFL thought of him last year.

864
00:40:14,920 --> 00:40:16,640
Speaker 2: Do we know what grade he got when he tried

865
00:40:16,680 --> 00:40:17,560
Speaker 2: to enter as well?

866
00:40:17,680 --> 00:40:20,080
Speaker 5: I mean, like what the NFL thought of him last

867
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Speaker 5: year is why he wound up back in school after.

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Speaker 5: I think he actually declared it for the draft, right,

869
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Speaker 5: so he got some advice not to do it, and

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Speaker 5: there's reason why. So I still think he has some

871
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Speaker 5: more to prove, but obviously he's off to a good

872
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Speaker 5: start to.

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Speaker 2: Is there other stuff I don't know about off field?

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Speaker 3: Or no, no, no, no, no, I it's nothing off field.

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Speaker 5: I think the bidding process to go and get him

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Speaker 5: in an IL was very interesting and it's something he

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Speaker 5: will be asked about by NFL teams.

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Speaker 3: But nothing nefarious or wait.

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Speaker 2: What was interesting?

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Speaker 3: I mean he was involved? Yeah, I just put it

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Speaker 3: this way.

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Speaker 5: I think that there were several agents that were competing

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Speaker 5: for his to have him as a client and was

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Speaker 5: I do know some of the college programs started.

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Speaker 3: It turned into a little bit of a circus.

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Speaker 5: Oh, you know, it's just it's not just like a

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Speaker 5: bidding war. It's like there were people were being contacted

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Speaker 5: by different people on behalf of him.

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Speaker 3: That's not which was sort of interesting.

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Speaker 2: But that's you know, that's young.

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Speaker 3: I'll just say the young guy is the young guy

892
00:41:19,960 --> 00:41:21,040
Speaker 3: is the young guy who was learning his.

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Speaker 2: Wife Miami won out and like listen Riley Leonard at

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Speaker 2: Notre Dame. I'm sorry, I don't even think he's an

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Speaker 2: early round pick. Like I've seen less than nothing from him,

896
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Speaker 2: and I know the tools are there, but I'm optimistic

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Speaker 2: on Kim Woreon when not. I just watch him play.

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Speaker 2: I haven't taken down there.

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Speaker 3: He's look good, he's look good well Howard right, oh

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Speaker 3: stop it?

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Speaker 2: Goodness us all right, Albert Brier take it ease.

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Speaker 3: He takes a lot, buddy, I thank you, Matt