WEBVTT - Conversations About Mexicans In Hip Hop | Pt. 3

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<v Speaker 1>Watch up and welcome back to another episode of No

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I didn't know why he wanted to bring us

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<v Speaker 2>back for that because I figured he had something that

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<v Speaker 2>he wanted.

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<v Speaker 3>He just did a great song for us to just

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<v Speaker 3>because Mexican's and hip hop.

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<v Speaker 1>For sure, especially Mexican jay Z fans of hip hop.

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<v Speaker 2>It's dope, though. You made it sound.

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<v Speaker 1>Good, right, No, No, it don't sound good. It doesn't

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<v Speaker 1>sound d It sounds like a pop song. It's cool though,

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<v Speaker 1>but at pop songs, it gotta be leaning like a trollo.

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<v Speaker 2>Good. Well, trying to get to that point, but is that.

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<v Speaker 3>Really trying to get to that point?

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<v Speaker 2>I wouldn't. I wouldn't make it lean like a I

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<v Speaker 2>mean obviously I wouldn't do it the way he did it,

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<v Speaker 2>but I would.

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<v Speaker 1>Find it the way he did it.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I couldn't do it the way he did it.

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<v Speaker 1>Just not that specific like that thing. That's that. That's listen.

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<v Speaker 1>This is the this is the hardest problem. This is

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<v Speaker 1>what Yes, they is same ship. This is the hardest

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<v Speaker 1>thing for Mexicans and hip hop. Right as far as

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<v Speaker 1>the art goes right? Is right? Is you either gotta

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<v Speaker 1>be Mexican or you gotta lean pop? Right, So you

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<v Speaker 1>gotta go what is pop?

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<v Speaker 3>Because he's been having this conversations.

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<v Speaker 1>This is for Theaza, right, is like a Mexican hip

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<v Speaker 1>hop song, or you gotta go lean like a troll o.

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<v Speaker 1>Summer Nice is in the middle, Summer Nights is kind

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<v Speaker 1>of poppy. Fingers did it any of the stuff Fingers did?

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<v Speaker 1>It's pretty poppy.

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<v Speaker 2>That ship was not poppy. That was very cultural. That

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<v Speaker 2>was a very cultural song. We've talked about that because

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<v Speaker 2>of the things he talked about.

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<v Speaker 1>But that's not what makes music music, you know what

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<v Speaker 1>I mean? Like I mean, it could be I'm not

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<v Speaker 1>mad at it. I think you know what I feel

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<v Speaker 1>about Rod Rob is my guy. Is the greatest Mexican.

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<v Speaker 1>I would say more kind of rapper in the history

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<v Speaker 1>of Chicondo rap.

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<v Speaker 2>But I would say, like someone, I would say, I

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<v Speaker 2>would put bash more on the pop side. That's not

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<v Speaker 2>talking shit, but I would put his music okay.

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<v Speaker 1>So but even then, right, songs like Cyclone, yes, but

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<v Speaker 1>not songs like Sugar Sugar.

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<v Speaker 2>So where would you Okay? So that's my question. So

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<v Speaker 2>where would you put Sugar Sugar.

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<v Speaker 1>That's the cornerstone that chacondo hip hop like like NB Riders,

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<v Speaker 1>that's the cornerstone, like those songs about girls. For some reason,

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<v Speaker 1>Mexican people are regarded as super romantic, and I just

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<v Speaker 1>know that that's not true Latin lovers.

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<v Speaker 2>Wait, Mexicans are not super romantic lovers.

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<v Speaker 1>Like that's kind of the regard of it. So when

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<v Speaker 1>y'all like so as a Mexican artist, when you make

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<v Speaker 1>all of the songs about like your girl, people would

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<v Speaker 1>think that y'all treat the women the best. And it's like,

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<v Speaker 1>if you really know, like it's no nonsense and that

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<v Speaker 1>how ain't nobody I.

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<v Speaker 2>Don't think that's That's not what I get what you're saying,

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<v Speaker 2>that's the perception. I think. I think knowing the truth

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<v Speaker 2>what it is about most even Latin men, but I

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<v Speaker 2>won't even.

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<v Speaker 1>Say that man around.

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<v Speaker 2>But definitely definitely Mexican men like is that when we're

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<v Speaker 2>with it chick, if we're messing with her, we're gonna

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<v Speaker 2>treat her like she's our woman, even if she's not.

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<v Speaker 2>Like that's that's pretty much where that comes from.

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<v Speaker 1>Really.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, Now you have these new age dudes that talk

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<v Speaker 2>about the skunk guys and the ratchets and they got

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<v Speaker 2>and they take call women bitches and all that. But

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<v Speaker 2>that's why them records ain't work.

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<v Speaker 3>It's kind of hard because as a watermel man, are.

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<v Speaker 1>Are you ever dated a watermelon sister?

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<v Speaker 2>His wife is Mexican, You've been with her twenty six years?

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<v Speaker 3>Water and men are known as cheaters. That's our reputations.

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<v Speaker 2>Central American man, yes.

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<v Speaker 1>Or we're cheaters. Really, we're really.

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<v Speaker 2>Agree But they say that about Central too, So I

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<v Speaker 2>don't know if that's true.

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<v Speaker 1>I think that's about American completely, maybe not Canadians.

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<v Speaker 2>Canadians.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know what Canadians are, but I'm telling you,

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<v Speaker 1>Mexican men have the same reputation men in America. All

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<v Speaker 1>of us had the same reputation for sure, watermelon for sure, Salvadorians.

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<v Speaker 2>So then why does why do the records work when

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<v Speaker 2>they are romantic? Then because there is a perception of

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<v Speaker 2>it that we are that way though.

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<v Speaker 1>Because I think women digest the belief of love like

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<v Speaker 1>love novels like no velis do little good.

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<v Speaker 2>So how we haven't heard that in a while though,

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<v Speaker 2>Like who's came out with that? Like think about it like,

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<v Speaker 2>remember at one time we had Brown Boy, I could

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<v Speaker 2>be your Superman. You know we have those records. You know,

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<v Speaker 2>for a long time, people didn't know Bash was talking

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<v Speaker 2>about smoking bud. You know. They thought Sugar Sugar was

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<v Speaker 2>about a chick.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I didn't know right now. You fucked me off

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<v Speaker 1>with that.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I know that when it said, you know, it's

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<v Speaker 2>nothing when we roll with Green and raw Hide doing

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<v Speaker 2>what we do.

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<v Speaker 1>I thought he was smoking weed with a girl.

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<v Speaker 2>Maybe he wasn't.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know that makes sense. Sugar Sugar, How you

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<v Speaker 1>get so flying sugar?

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<v Speaker 2>To me? I thought the whole song was about weed because.

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<v Speaker 1>You got lifted. Wow. Yeah, have to re examine that.

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<v Speaker 2>That's why. That's why I like he always got along

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<v Speaker 2>with probably like all the weed smokers and ships.

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<v Speaker 1>But you know that, I just know that the song

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<v Speaker 1>was about smoking.

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<v Speaker 2>We would have to we have to call it. Call Bash,

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<v Speaker 2>get him on the phone.

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<v Speaker 1>Hold on, let me ask. It's a great question.

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<v Speaker 2>If I'm right or wrong. I thought the record was

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<v Speaker 2>about him smoking weed the whole time, and just how

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<v Speaker 2>much in love he was with weed.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know. We feel unlike one of the things

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<v Speaker 1>of the world. This is crazy. Hold on, pick up Bass.

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<v Speaker 1>I just talked to Bass too. Pick up. He in Texas,

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<v Speaker 1>so it's what eleven o'clock. He might just be watching

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<v Speaker 1>a fight, so he might be there. It's two hours

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<v Speaker 1>in Texas. See what's going.

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<v Speaker 2>He's not buy it, so he's smoking that.

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<v Speaker 1>No he watching has been forwarded to voicemail.

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<v Speaker 3>The person you're trying to reach is not available at

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<v Speaker 3>the tone.

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<v Speaker 2>Please record your message. When you have finished recording, you

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<v Speaker 2>may hang off.

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<v Speaker 1>Bash. What up? Cut his glasses? Look, my homeboy was

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<v Speaker 1>making accusations that Sugar Sugar is about smoking weed, not

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<v Speaker 1>about a girl. I need you to clarify that for me.

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<v Speaker 1>Call me.

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<v Speaker 2>If he comes back, fucking bash. But yeah, but anyway

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<v Speaker 2>back to that, Like to me, I thought his record

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<v Speaker 2>that was a pop record because you're talking about smoking weed.

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<v Speaker 3>When you say pop, why do you pop? You lure

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<v Speaker 3>or pop genre? Pop genre?

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<v Speaker 2>Pop jo? It's the same, isn't it the same? Ship?

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<v Speaker 2>Or is it?

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<v Speaker 1>Like like Gin and Juice is a popular record, but

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<v Speaker 1>it wasn't a pop record.

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<v Speaker 2>Right, So it's so Sugar Sugar is not a pop record.

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<v Speaker 2>It's just a popular record.

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<v Speaker 1>I would have to think about a little bit more,

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<v Speaker 1>especially if it's about weed. No, it's not a pop

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<v Speaker 1>record if it's about weed, for sure. If it was

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<v Speaker 1>a girl record, we have to re examine if it's

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<v Speaker 1>about weed. And he didn't fool me all this time,

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<v Speaker 1>like you know, then, Nigga, that is pretty impressive hip

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<v Speaker 1>hop record. That's an impressive hip hop record at that point.

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<v Speaker 2>So what was one of his Okay, shorty do was

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<v Speaker 2>that a pop record? That's my show the dude, let's

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<v Speaker 2>bash your second single? So that probably was a probably

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<v Speaker 2>ship was on the radio.

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<v Speaker 1>No sellings, gl my Nigga jazz O? What up? Kay?

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<v Speaker 1>What's up? Brother trash? Once again? Anthony Naudio.

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<v Speaker 3>Mexicans and hip hop?

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<v Speaker 1>So tell me, so what did you want to talk about?

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<v Speaker 1>What was on your mind?

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<v Speaker 2>No, you wanted to talk no means.

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<v Speaker 1>Hit me and was saying he needed to be on

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<v Speaker 1>a discussion because of it, and I didn't know quite

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<v Speaker 1>know why, and he was like, well there was some

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<v Speaker 1>points brought to you, so that's why I was asking

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<v Speaker 1>you on the point.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, he just called me that day and was like, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>we're gonna come up there and do this, and I'm like, well, shit,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not going to be able to go up there

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<v Speaker 2>because I'm not available. No, I don't even think. I

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<v Speaker 2>was just doing some other stuff and uh, it never happened.

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<v Speaker 2>It never happened to like, you know, make it, make

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<v Speaker 2>it here. So I don't know what he wanted to

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<v Speaker 2>talk about. I think I think what he he wanted

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<v Speaker 2>to do was implement his conversation because he basically had

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<v Speaker 2>told me that he had been in cut A Hay

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<v Speaker 2>for X amount of years, and I was like, oh, man,

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<v Speaker 2>I didn't know that. You know what I mean. He

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<v Speaker 2>was telling me that before it was all Mexican that

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<v Speaker 2>because I was like, well, most of those areas were

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<v Speaker 2>all white, and he was like, no, well bothfore, Well

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<v Speaker 2>that's that's what I always stopped. Well, according to him,

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<v Speaker 2>before the Mexicans, it was all black before before something

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<v Speaker 2>to that, except so before before cut of.

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<v Speaker 3>Hay is Southgate, Yeah, Alameda period, the lines from.

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<v Speaker 1>Black to Mexican to white. First.

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<v Speaker 3>At first, Southgate had the spook Hunters, which was the

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<v Speaker 3>KKK of Southgate to keep all blacks from crossing Alameda.

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<v Speaker 3>When I grew up in Southgate in the eighties, majority

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<v Speaker 3>of my neighbors were older white people. To get off

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<v Speaker 3>my grass white people, you know what I'm saying, And

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<v Speaker 3>it changed over the years.

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<v Speaker 1>To Hispanics, especially not cutting hair. Like even when all

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<v Speaker 1>of the black people, all my older homies used to

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<v Speaker 1>go shopping for school in the seventies and eighties, when

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<v Speaker 1>they used to go shopping, they used to go to HP.

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<v Speaker 1>Across Alameda has always been not black. I don't even

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<v Speaker 1>think nothing is black across Alameda until you get to Lynwood,

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<v Speaker 1>and lind Wood is some.

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<v Speaker 2>Shit, right, So I mean, and that's I think why

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<v Speaker 2>he wanted to be here, because he probably wants to

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<v Speaker 2>defend that. I'm assuming because he was basically what he

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<v Speaker 2>was justifying to me from what I was gathering. What

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<v Speaker 2>he was telling me was that he grew up very

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<v Speaker 2>much like me and you did, and that he was

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<v Speaker 2>around black people, and that there were more black people.

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<v Speaker 2>Maybe not all black people. Maybe I worded that wrong,

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<v Speaker 2>but there was definitely a more influx of black people

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<v Speaker 2>in the area that he did grow up with in

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<v Speaker 2>cut A Hay before he became a trollo and got

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<v Speaker 2>into gang bag.

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<v Speaker 1>So well, don't get me wrong to part three. So

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<v Speaker 1>we definitely got to get him in there. But I

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<v Speaker 1>know there were always black people that stayed in Cut

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<v Speaker 1>of Hate. There was always some black people that stayed

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<v Speaker 1>in Southgate. It was always twelve, Yeah, Huntington Park, East

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<v Speaker 1>LA twelve maybe long time ago there with some black

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<v Speaker 1>people in East LA and the projects. That was a

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<v Speaker 1>long time agoit.

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<v Speaker 2>But it's like I tell Jazz and everything, the black

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<v Speaker 2>people that most most black people that come out and

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<v Speaker 2>say that they grew up in those areas are much

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<v Speaker 2>more Mexican than they are Black, like the way that

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<v Speaker 2>they condemned, because.

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<v Speaker 1>Culturally, culturally those places are super you know, the culture

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<v Speaker 1>itself is going to be a lot more Mexican than

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<v Speaker 1>it's gonna be even Los Angeles.

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<v Speaker 2>I remember the first time I met a sister that

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<v Speaker 2>I was talking to. She's bad and she was from

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<v Speaker 2>me Stella and she was like talking like this and

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<v Speaker 2>she had the little accent and I was like, why

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<v Speaker 2>you talk like that? It was the weirdest shit to

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<v Speaker 2>me I had never.

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<v Speaker 1>Because your skin, the root of culture is not your skin.

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<v Speaker 1>In the root of culture is the land that way

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<v Speaker 1>of life you de fans.

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<v Speaker 3>It's like a black kid or a Hispanic kid raised

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<v Speaker 3>in a white neighborhood and you're asking why you talk

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<v Speaker 3>like that because he's not raised. He's not He wasn't

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<v Speaker 3>raised over heres.

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<v Speaker 1>He wasn't raised, he wasn't bathed in flavor like my kids.

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<v Speaker 3>They were raised where they were a Southgate HB as

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<v Speaker 3>opposed to my new baby boy, Kenzo. You're getting raised

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<v Speaker 3>in Critos. So my kids are like, you better never

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<v Speaker 3>act like you was a thug or anything. You was

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<v Speaker 3>a cerrin You are a Crito's baby.

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<v Speaker 2>Even though they got thugs in Critos too, they got

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<v Speaker 2>little hoods. Let's not say that I was telling them

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<v Speaker 2>the story that means there's no hoods. They banged on

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<v Speaker 2>Jay Jay real remember in Cerritos.

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<v Speaker 1>That that happened in Torito's that's Bellflower.

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<v Speaker 3>And on our side where I'm ad at Crito's we

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<v Speaker 3>got norwalks.

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<v Speaker 1>They don't got. You don't have the closest games you

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<v Speaker 1>gonna have. And Toritos will be Asian gangs and I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know them, like they may exist, but I've never

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<v Speaker 1>seen it. But there's no bellflowers. Bellflower got gangs like

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<v Speaker 1>a few gangs, so it's different bellflowering bellflowers when you

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<v Speaker 1>almost in Surritos.

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<v Speaker 2>Is the real deal down he got gangs.

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<v Speaker 1>They used to. But Downey has became the Mexican Beverly Hills.

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<v Speaker 1>That's what that. Ye, so that's changed.

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<v Speaker 2>That's racist.

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<v Speaker 1>No, it's true.

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<v Speaker 2>True. Why calling them like it's whitewashed.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, no, no it's not. It's not the whitewash. It's

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<v Speaker 1>big money.

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<v Speaker 3>There, success more successful.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's like you'll meet a lot of successful Mexican

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<v Speaker 1>people down Downey. That's where they live. That's where they

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<v Speaker 1>moved to.

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<v Speaker 3>A lot of construction businesss that own construction company.

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<v Speaker 1>Listen, they got a Bennie Haunas a lot.

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<v Speaker 2>Of those families are also old money of people people

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<v Speaker 2>like Hinted that came over that became gardeners and things

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<v Speaker 2>like that. Bought a property, built the house. Then the

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<v Speaker 2>kids started going to college, you know, high school college,

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<v Speaker 2>made something out of themselves. They stay in the house

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<v Speaker 2>and then they build on the house.

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<v Speaker 3>Of wealth is old money though, yeah, for sure isn't.

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<v Speaker 3>Nobody's really going out and buying a brand new mansion

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<v Speaker 3>and down it has evolved into you've probably been there and.

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<v Speaker 1>That's what you said.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm just clowning. I get it. That's that's that would

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<v Speaker 2>be the equivalent of like Hancock Park and Jewish people

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<v Speaker 2>and how they had like I remember we Beverly Hills too.

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<v Speaker 1>That's passed on for sure. Very few people. My houses

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<v Speaker 1>not new money. I remember money.

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<v Speaker 2>I remember when I drove Uber and I and I

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<v Speaker 2>and I you know, drove some say, man, you got

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<v Speaker 2>a nice house.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>My this is my great great great great great great

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<v Speaker 2>great great, you know, grandmother's house and it's been passed

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<v Speaker 2>down to generations. I'm not rich. I just live here.

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<v Speaker 2>The house is paid. I told me though.

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<v Speaker 3>And if it's a modern house, it's a house that

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<v Speaker 3>was passed on that the new kid was able to

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<v Speaker 3>afford to modernize the house and make it look new.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>What's crazy is Pete family. When Pete moved out here,

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<v Speaker 1>Pete moved to His family is originally from Lynnwood for real. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>And when everything happened, they moved out right, they moved

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<v Speaker 1>out of Lynnwood and they went and bought a house.

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<v Speaker 1>And uh, they went and bought a house in either HB.

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<v Speaker 1>Huntington Beach or Newport Beach. I forgot where Pete's from.

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<v Speaker 1>But I was actually cheap at the time because it

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<v Speaker 1>was to get like the water property wasn't what everybody

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<v Speaker 1>thought it was back then you kind of didn't want

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<v Speaker 1>to live next to the water, if I remember correctly

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<v Speaker 1>back then. So they bought were ahead. So now the

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<v Speaker 1>property is worth for arm and the legs. So that

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<v Speaker 1>changes the wealth for these families.

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<v Speaker 2>And those those a lot. And that's the thing too, right,

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<v Speaker 2>And that's what you know, we tie it back in

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of I'm gonna just speak for Mexicans from

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<v Speaker 2>from myself, but what I believe is like once a

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<v Speaker 2>lot of Mexicans achieve a certain level of wealth, they

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<v Speaker 2>completely disconnect from whatever they were. That's why I question

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<v Speaker 2>people's hip hop, especially when they Mexicans or their cholos

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<v Speaker 2>or different things, because although I know what hip hop is,

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<v Speaker 2>I go, well, you know, what is your real love

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<v Speaker 2>of the culture of hip hop, of the music, of

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<v Speaker 2>what it really really is? Now to know the music,

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<v Speaker 2>we always say, like we were talking earlier, raps. Not

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<v Speaker 2>necessarily that doesn't make you hip hop because you rap.

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<v Speaker 3>But why do you say disconnect?

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<v Speaker 1>Get money? Money? You get money, and you don't live

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<v Speaker 1>the same where poor people live, no right or eat them.

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<v Speaker 2>But you also addressed but you also stop trying to

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<v Speaker 2>understand what is going on in those areas, So that's

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<v Speaker 2>where you would lose your hip hop at that point.

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<v Speaker 1>But that happens to anybody for the most part, once

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<v Speaker 1>you move away from the ghetto.

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<v Speaker 2>Sure, I get what you're saying, because you're saying it like, Okay,

0:17:10.320 --> 0:17:13.720
<v Speaker 2>let's like hove like jay Z, so jay Z moves,

0:17:13.880 --> 0:17:17.159
<v Speaker 2>he's super disconnected. Doctor Dre is another one that is

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<v Speaker 2>probably very disconnected because they're so rich, right.

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<v Speaker 1>Like why would they know the urban struggle. Don't get

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<v Speaker 1>me wrong, I'm sorry.

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<v Speaker 3>You don't even have to go that big. I get

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<v Speaker 3>called bougie because I live in Sorito's Sure, like Nigga,

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<v Speaker 3>I'm ten minutes literally fifteen minutes away from.

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<v Speaker 1>You, but it's a fucking planet.

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<v Speaker 2>But you don't. But you don't. But you don't lose

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<v Speaker 2>your connection to what developed you, is what I'm saying.

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<v Speaker 2>You're I don't see you losing your connection to what

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<v Speaker 2>developed you. You don't look at people as like huh

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<v Speaker 2>and rasa. Sometimes they get to so no and they

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<v Speaker 2>start looking huh, I ain't better than you left, looking

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<v Speaker 2>at you down down from the end of their nose

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<v Speaker 2>like your less it's miter.

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<v Speaker 1>It's different, right, it's different, right, because jazz is problem.

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<v Speaker 1>Is he a nigga, right, so he still go get

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<v Speaker 1>treated like a nigga. Even in Sorito, it'll be certain

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<v Speaker 1>moments where you'll be like, I know what that's about.

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<v Speaker 1>Like like I told you before in that other podcast, right,

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<v Speaker 1>I was like yo, Like, for the most part, Mexican

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<v Speaker 1>people can assimilate in the white culture and don't have

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<v Speaker 1>a ton of problems until certain places. So they'll forget

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<v Speaker 1>the motherfuckerer, forget like and be around these white folks

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<v Speaker 1>and be good and be treated like it's good till

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<v Speaker 1>certain places. But look, hip hop is street urban culture

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<v Speaker 1>personified through the arts, right, the arts that they call

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<v Speaker 1>the elements. That's what hip hop is. Right. Even past

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<v Speaker 1>that where you know the fashion and stuff that are

0:18:50.000 --> 0:18:52.919
<v Speaker 1>things that are added to it, right, that all becomes

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<v Speaker 1>street urban culture. Right. But we call hip hop the

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<v Speaker 1>version that's personified through the arts. White people identify it's

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<v Speaker 1>everything we do or he dressed, I'm dressed hip hop

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<v Speaker 1>or I'm dancing hip hop, you know what I mean.

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<v Speaker 1>We don't look at it like that. I told my homeboy, like, really,

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<v Speaker 1>I think that's some white people shit to even call

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<v Speaker 1>it hip hop anyway. I know that sound weird, but

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<v Speaker 1>it's like.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, isn't that how it got its name? That was

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<v Speaker 2>part of the conversation. They were called like even though

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<v Speaker 2>it was called the hop, like they the media started

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<v Speaker 2>calling it the hip hop.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, no, I think I think they titled it first,

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<v Speaker 1>but I think they were in reference to a specific party.

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<v Speaker 1>And then this is white people good at labeling some

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<v Speaker 1>shit so they can understand what's going on. Like none

0:19:35.520 --> 0:19:37.720
<v Speaker 1>of us in La, none of the our predecessors, none

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<v Speaker 1>of the people we grew up listening to called a

0:19:39.359 --> 0:19:42.600
<v Speaker 1>gangster rap until they started calling a gangster rap. Then

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<v Speaker 1>they was like, okay, well whatever, just like right now,

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<v Speaker 1>like right now with black people, like black people that

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<v Speaker 1>sing like Jill Scott's R and B sinker for some reason,

0:19:51.480 --> 0:19:54.960
<v Speaker 1>they kep calling her neo soul. She just sings fucking

0:19:55.080 --> 0:19:57.640
<v Speaker 1>R and B. It's not what the fuck is neo soul?

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<v Speaker 2>Is that a way then to call like uh R

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<v Speaker 2>and B for only black people?

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know, but it's their way of getting in

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<v Speaker 1>and making a space for themselves in places that we

0:20:11.760 --> 0:20:14.520
<v Speaker 1>have been banned from or that you know, like like

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<v Speaker 1>little Uzzi, Little UZZI keep telling y'all he a rock star,

0:20:17.840 --> 0:20:20.760
<v Speaker 1>and they like, well, he raps, he's the pop parties, Negro,

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<v Speaker 1>you know what I'm saying.

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<v Speaker 2>So what is post Malone?

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<v Speaker 1>He's a pop singer. Yeah, he's pop.

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<v Speaker 2>So when he did that White Iverson song, like what

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<v Speaker 2>that style of music? What would y'all would label that as.

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<v Speaker 1>Just And see, this is the problem. Anytime you mentioned

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<v Speaker 1>a black person that's popular within culture, you're like, oh,

0:20:43.920 --> 0:20:46.639
<v Speaker 1>they're down. I hate that, you know, I go on

0:20:46.680 --> 0:20:49.040
<v Speaker 1>Instagram nigga like he's invited to the barbecue. Know he not?

0:20:49.560 --> 0:20:51.480
<v Speaker 1>And I'll kick your bitch as South for inviting his

0:20:51.560 --> 0:20:56.160
<v Speaker 1>bitch as. Niggas always thiggas always trying to invite somebody

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<v Speaker 1>to the barbecue.

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<v Speaker 2>If they're cool, or if they think.

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<v Speaker 1>Not even if they core think they cool, if they

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<v Speaker 1>have a hint of fucking flavor, a hint of soul.

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<v Speaker 1>Like if you look at white Iverson cousin he just

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<v Speaker 1>got on then Iverson Jersey and niggas like he like

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<v Speaker 1>al It's like they know that's the easiest door to

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<v Speaker 1>get in invited to the barbecue. If a white person

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<v Speaker 1>said pause, like oh my god, don't let skips say pause,

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<v Speaker 1>pause if they go he's invited to the barbecue. No,

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<v Speaker 1>we not taking his plate. There in your plate, your

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<v Speaker 1>bitch ass out of here.

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<v Speaker 2>Man shout out to Cam and mays bro. That's the

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<v Speaker 2>funniest word in the world. Pause they pause everything.

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<v Speaker 1>We're so easy to be manipulated as far as black

0:21:39.520 --> 0:21:41.600
<v Speaker 1>folks because we're just so desperate for people to be

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<v Speaker 1>down with us, so we like, we'll take anything except

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<v Speaker 1>And all that nigga did was put on the motherfucking

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<v Speaker 1>iverson Jersey and had a fucking foreign car doing donuts.

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<v Speaker 1>Go he with us, and then he came out like

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<v Speaker 1>I don't fuck with you niggas like that?

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<v Speaker 3>So all right, man, put an explorer on twenty two's

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<v Speaker 3>that with zibiting.

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<v Speaker 1>Now he was hip hop too. Machine Gun Kelly is

0:22:02.800 --> 0:22:04.720
<v Speaker 1>the same thing. Machine Gun Kelly east Side to the

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<v Speaker 1>domin the east Side, east Side. Now you're a rock star?

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<v Speaker 1>How you a rock started in if you was with us,

0:22:08.800 --> 0:22:10.720
<v Speaker 1>if you grew up with us, How you all of

0:22:10.760 --> 0:22:13.200
<v Speaker 1>a sudden turn into the whitest white man of how

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<v Speaker 1>we see white people.

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<v Speaker 2>You want to know who he copied? Oh kid rock?

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<v Speaker 1>But the point but it's not no copy. The problem

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<v Speaker 1>is these people be trying to come through our door

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<v Speaker 1>because our door is the easiest door to get.

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<v Speaker 2>In because it's very accepting. I get it, like our doors.

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<v Speaker 2>But it's not though, So speaking of that, Mexicans ain't

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<v Speaker 2>really been able to get through that door because we

0:22:33.000 --> 0:22:36.320
<v Speaker 2>always talk about that, right, because you say that most

0:22:36.359 --> 0:22:39.919
<v Speaker 2>Mexicans that rap and English are looking for the black acceptance,

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<v Speaker 2>which is why it doesn't always work. So earlier you

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<v Speaker 2>were saying that Mexican oh, what's his name, Mexican ot genesis,

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<v Speaker 2>I don't my name Mexicant.

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<v Speaker 1>His name is o T that Mexican.

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<v Speaker 2>Ot, that Mexican old.

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<v Speaker 1>His name is ot.

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<v Speaker 2>You said, you told me a couple of years ago

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<v Speaker 2>that he was up next. So what is making him special?

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<v Speaker 1>Because he's rolling their motherfucking rs. That's what it is,

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<v Speaker 1>the South Side stepping with a big mac of leven

0:23:14.080 --> 0:23:15.320
<v Speaker 1>rolling them oars.

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<v Speaker 2>Bro And that's what makes it. That's what ties him

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<v Speaker 2>into the culture. And people are drawn to that because.

0:23:20.560 --> 0:23:24.200
<v Speaker 1>We mean the and I accepted his own culture. That's

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<v Speaker 1>all he did. It's like I used to tell you

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<v Speaker 1>and means back in the day, we don't want to

0:23:27.920 --> 0:23:29.800
<v Speaker 1>see Mexican people trying to be black. We want to

0:23:29.800 --> 0:23:32.760
<v Speaker 1>see Mexican people being Mexican, then we down. If you

0:23:32.880 --> 0:23:34.840
<v Speaker 1>try to be black, you're gonna do a horrible job.

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<v Speaker 3>He did a freestyle holding a rooster.

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<v Speaker 1>Exactly like why you got a rooster? Why then got

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<v Speaker 1>a hat?

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<v Speaker 2>Household have a rooster?

0:23:46.040 --> 0:23:49.560
<v Speaker 1>Messing the point, But he's showing you I got my rooster.

0:23:49.760 --> 0:23:50.560
<v Speaker 1>It don't matter.

0:23:50.720 --> 0:23:54.600
<v Speaker 2>Yes, the reason why you gotta understand, saying bro, I

0:23:54.680 --> 0:23:57.600
<v Speaker 2>got to push the line with G on this. Other

0:23:57.760 --> 0:24:01.040
<v Speaker 2>Mexicans do the same thing. They don't they do, Yes,

0:24:01.080 --> 0:24:09.399
<v Speaker 2>they do, Little G does. He puts, You're okay, now

0:24:09.440 --> 0:24:12.960
<v Speaker 2>you're talking about Mexican. Okay, so there's a different Mexican. No,

0:24:13.040 --> 0:24:15.840
<v Speaker 2>it's not. So, it's it's there's Mexican that are what

0:24:15.920 --> 0:24:18.439
<v Speaker 2>they're portraying. What he's talking about, the rooster and all

0:24:18.480 --> 0:24:23.080
<v Speaker 2>that is more Mexican from Mexico to Rancho that Texas.

0:24:23.080 --> 0:24:26.600
<v Speaker 2>That's what he's taught Texas. Well, fine, because Mexico is

0:24:26.680 --> 0:24:30.480
<v Speaker 2>right there. Then you have which I said, you shared

0:24:30.520 --> 0:24:33.280
<v Speaker 2>a great article that said Cholos are as American as

0:24:33.320 --> 0:24:40.240
<v Speaker 2>apple pie. So so little G does that Little gis no.

0:24:40.320 --> 0:24:41.680
<v Speaker 1>But but but but.

0:24:42.000 --> 0:24:44.879
<v Speaker 2>He he he holds up the Mexican flag, he plays

0:24:44.920 --> 0:24:47.320
<v Speaker 2>the Charlino at the shows, he represents.

0:24:47.560 --> 0:24:49.960
<v Speaker 1>That's why he be popping with Mexican people.

0:24:50.040 --> 0:24:53.040
<v Speaker 2>So is he okay? But my question is, so, but

0:24:53.160 --> 0:24:57.520
<v Speaker 2>why don't with what they're doing, why won't they Why

0:24:57.560 --> 0:25:00.760
<v Speaker 2>haven't they broken through this thresho whole day you're saying,

0:25:00.760 --> 0:25:03.640
<v Speaker 2>like I'm talking about to stardom, Like because even as

0:25:03.680 --> 0:25:07.119
<v Speaker 2>popular as say little G is right, like when we

0:25:07.160 --> 0:25:07.960
<v Speaker 2>talk about I.

0:25:07.920 --> 0:25:11.359
<v Speaker 3>Know it's more popular than all that, and he doesn't

0:25:11.359 --> 0:25:13.120
<v Speaker 3>get it. But he's Mexican as fuck?

0:25:13.240 --> 0:25:14.760
<v Speaker 1>Who sig jacking?

0:25:16.280 --> 0:25:18.919
<v Speaker 2>Six jacking is different? Six jacking got a cult like

0:25:18.960 --> 0:25:20.240
<v Speaker 2>the Raiders. I don't even know what.

0:25:20.320 --> 0:25:21.639
<v Speaker 1>He's they, that's.

0:25:24.760 --> 0:25:30.680
<v Speaker 2>But he there Again, their music is very like That's

0:25:30.720 --> 0:25:32.800
<v Speaker 2>what I was telling you about, even with Cypress Hill Bro.

0:25:33.280 --> 0:25:36.439
<v Speaker 2>Like when you listen and they're sampling Duke of Earl

0:25:36.680 --> 0:25:40.399
<v Speaker 2>and they're sampling you know, low Rider and all this music.

0:25:40.920 --> 0:25:43.000
<v Speaker 2>Muggs knew what he was doing. This is the things

0:25:43.000 --> 0:25:44.800
<v Speaker 2>that I learned with G and the studio. He would

0:25:44.800 --> 0:25:47.440
<v Speaker 2>teach me and means all this shit means before it did,

0:25:47.480 --> 0:25:50.280
<v Speaker 2>it means Still I don't think fucks with it like that, honestly,

0:25:50.320 --> 0:25:53.520
<v Speaker 2>like he won't go that way whatever I mean, I

0:25:53.560 --> 0:25:57.479
<v Speaker 2>haven't seen him do it anyway. So, but those using

0:25:57.560 --> 0:25:59.879
<v Speaker 2>those styles, and I'm not just talking about the Spanish guitar.

0:26:00.119 --> 0:26:01.760
<v Speaker 2>I'm not just saying, oh, I'm gonna use something that's

0:26:01.760 --> 0:26:04.640
<v Speaker 2>a Spanish I know, something that is culturally from where

0:26:04.680 --> 0:26:08.119
<v Speaker 2>we are, because as a Mexican, Bro, I represent being Mexican.

0:26:08.400 --> 0:26:11.040
<v Speaker 2>But the reality of it is I'm born here. Anytime

0:26:11.080 --> 0:26:14.600
<v Speaker 2>I speak Spanish, they know what's up. Any Mexican here's me.

0:26:14.680 --> 0:26:16.960
<v Speaker 2>They hear my Spanish, even the way I formulate the

0:26:16.960 --> 0:26:20.400
<v Speaker 2>Spanglish rhymes, they're gonna be like, Bro, you're saying that wrong.

0:26:20.480 --> 0:26:20.760
<v Speaker 1>Whatever.

0:26:20.840 --> 0:26:24.080
<v Speaker 2>No, this is how we talk. This is our Spanglish here.

0:26:24.600 --> 0:26:26.560
<v Speaker 2>So my Spanish is not gonna be my Spanish not

0:26:26.560 --> 0:26:29.560
<v Speaker 2>gonna be perfect like when you speak it and you

0:26:29.680 --> 0:26:33.520
<v Speaker 2>talk it. So then again at that point with again

0:26:33.560 --> 0:26:38.160
<v Speaker 2>going back to the Mexican ot, you know, is he

0:26:38.160 --> 0:26:41.320
<v Speaker 2>he's working simply because of the visuals as you're telling me,

0:26:41.400 --> 0:26:44.600
<v Speaker 2>Because when I listen to the music, sure he rolls

0:26:44.640 --> 0:26:46.920
<v Speaker 2>the ours, but none of the music tells me nothing

0:26:46.960 --> 0:26:51.000
<v Speaker 2>about like it doesn't sound like I'm not saying sound

0:26:51.000 --> 0:26:53.600
<v Speaker 2>like Cyprus Hill, but I don't hear the influence like

0:26:53.640 --> 0:26:54.040
<v Speaker 2>I don't.

0:26:53.920 --> 0:26:56.160
<v Speaker 3>Hear any is an influence.

0:26:56.200 --> 0:26:57.760
<v Speaker 2>I'm talking about music.

0:26:57.840 --> 0:27:00.480
<v Speaker 1>Okay, does he have records as big as Insane in

0:27:00.480 --> 0:27:03.960
<v Speaker 1>the membrane? No question answered, And I.

0:27:03.880 --> 0:27:06.399
<v Speaker 3>Was telling him that yesterday. I think Cypress Hill is

0:27:06.440 --> 0:27:09.760
<v Speaker 3>slept on as far as asad as a Latin hip

0:27:09.760 --> 0:27:12.440
<v Speaker 3>hop grew like on the West Coast, even like.

0:27:12.720 --> 0:27:15.600
<v Speaker 1>Period, they're probably the greatest. They're they're pretty much the

0:27:15.640 --> 0:27:17.600
<v Speaker 1>biggest outside.

0:27:17.200 --> 0:27:21.480
<v Speaker 2>Of Yeah Coast. Well, no, but young Young La and

0:27:21.520 --> 0:27:23.440
<v Speaker 2>shout out to Young l A. You know, he made

0:27:23.480 --> 0:27:27.720
<v Speaker 2>a valid point. It's although I think if you really

0:27:27.720 --> 0:27:30.679
<v Speaker 2>go talk to people I'm talking about, like fools that

0:27:30.720 --> 0:27:33.520
<v Speaker 2>grew up in that time, like Chicano's probably who are

0:27:33.600 --> 0:27:36.560
<v Speaker 2>vet that Donald's now, they for sure will name you

0:27:37.440 --> 0:27:41.560
<v Speaker 2>Cypress Hills, guaranteed, you know, along with mister Nightau and

0:27:41.600 --> 0:27:45.400
<v Speaker 2>everybody else that he'll tell you midget local, all of them.

0:27:45.840 --> 0:27:48.840
<v Speaker 2>But I don't know necessarily if guys that grew up

0:27:50.560 --> 0:27:54.040
<v Speaker 2>like us who were more so emulating because our love

0:27:54.080 --> 0:27:57.680
<v Speaker 2>of East Coast hip hop, not that we skip over it.

0:27:57.680 --> 0:28:00.159
<v Speaker 2>It's just well, I guess we skip over it if

0:28:00.200 --> 0:28:02.000
<v Speaker 2>we don't put them in our top. But a lot

0:28:02.080 --> 0:28:03.760
<v Speaker 2>of it has to do with the fact that when

0:28:03.760 --> 0:28:06.119
<v Speaker 2>you looked at them. When I looked at b Bro

0:28:06.200 --> 0:28:07.600
<v Speaker 2>and I used to look at sind Dog as much

0:28:07.600 --> 0:28:09.760
<v Speaker 2>as I thought they were dope, I didn't see myself

0:28:09.800 --> 0:28:13.639
<v Speaker 2>in them. They didn't look like me. And you know

0:28:14.960 --> 0:28:16.760
<v Speaker 2>that's why I never really looked at it like there.

0:28:17.000 --> 0:28:21.119
<v Speaker 1>That's because like you, they sounded like you, and I

0:28:21.560 --> 0:28:24.280
<v Speaker 1>get it. I think because also because you wasn't a tollo.

0:28:24.960 --> 0:28:28.320
<v Speaker 2>Well that's the conversation we've had before. Because I wasn't

0:28:28.359 --> 0:28:31.320
<v Speaker 2>a troll, that's possibly what it was. So then again,

0:28:31.880 --> 0:28:35.320
<v Speaker 2>because I wasn't even accepted or even when let's say

0:28:35.359 --> 0:28:37.479
<v Speaker 2>I tried to kick it with like the Trolos, like

0:28:37.600 --> 0:28:39.920
<v Speaker 2>just to be around, and those would be like, oh no,

0:28:40.120 --> 0:28:42.120
<v Speaker 2>you you don't dress like, you don't talk like us.

0:28:42.120 --> 0:28:46.160
<v Speaker 2>You're English is too too whitewashed, you know what I mean?

0:28:46.360 --> 0:28:49.479
<v Speaker 2>Or you talk like you're Roo or whatever. Yeah, it

0:28:49.520 --> 0:28:51.680
<v Speaker 2>was always something bro like. It was something that when

0:28:51.680 --> 0:28:53.680
<v Speaker 2>we were all the time, bro like, I would have

0:28:53.760 --> 0:28:56.280
<v Speaker 2>and that's why I joke about it now. But Bro,

0:28:56.360 --> 0:28:58.280
<v Speaker 2>I would have fools to be like you know, they're like, no,

0:28:58.760 --> 0:29:02.680
<v Speaker 2>you're not makes they're talking like that. Now, this is

0:29:02.720 --> 0:29:05.560
<v Speaker 2>before you're a sandloud dog. Then I'd be like, you

0:29:05.600 --> 0:29:09.360
<v Speaker 2>know what, Borquso sellout like for chemists, sim I don't

0:29:09.360 --> 0:29:11.000
<v Speaker 2>talk that ship done.

0:29:10.840 --> 0:29:17.240
<v Speaker 1>What because because talking about in certain places, right, Mexican

0:29:17.320 --> 0:29:21.880
<v Speaker 1>and Sola are interchangeable. So Tolo is his own Mexican culture,

0:29:21.880 --> 0:29:24.480
<v Speaker 1>even though it's an American I even though it's an

0:29:24.480 --> 0:29:26.400
<v Speaker 1>American culture. I mean, and we know that now, you

0:29:26.440 --> 0:29:28.920
<v Speaker 1>know that now. But so when you asked me about

0:29:29.000 --> 0:29:31.080
<v Speaker 1>like even when I told you back then that, I

0:29:31.120 --> 0:29:33.360
<v Speaker 1>was like, this is my favorite Mexican rapper right now?

0:29:33.440 --> 0:29:36.320
<v Speaker 1>Right is he gonna be? Is he gonna make records

0:29:36.360 --> 0:29:40.400
<v Speaker 1>as big as Cypress Hill? Probably not Cypress Hills. The

0:29:40.520 --> 0:29:43.080
<v Speaker 1>bad motherfuckers were making records and they knew how to

0:29:43.120 --> 0:29:48.760
<v Speaker 1>embody everything that the struggle of Mexican people in America,

0:29:49.480 --> 0:29:51.280
<v Speaker 1>you know what I mean what they was fucking with

0:29:51.680 --> 0:29:55.400
<v Speaker 1>Duga Rul, certain cuts like low Rider. They was own it.

0:29:55.440 --> 0:29:59.560
<v Speaker 1>They knew it, like fucking uh mugs got busy what

0:29:59.560 --> 0:30:02.840
<v Speaker 1>I'm saying. And it really comes down to record makers.

0:30:03.640 --> 0:30:06.560
<v Speaker 1>But what's working really well for the Mexican otia is

0:30:06.600 --> 0:30:08.960
<v Speaker 1>that you see, he's a Mexican and he's embracing it,

0:30:09.000 --> 0:30:12.080
<v Speaker 1>and it makes me even appreciate niggas holding a rooster.

0:30:12.520 --> 0:30:14.720
<v Speaker 2>So what do you say to the kids who are

0:30:15.200 --> 0:30:19.960
<v Speaker 2>who would tell you and say, glasses, you're wrong, you're

0:30:20.240 --> 0:30:23.760
<v Speaker 2>you don't get it. You got people that are just

0:30:23.920 --> 0:30:26.719
<v Speaker 2>dope and they're popping and you don't think they're popping,

0:30:26.760 --> 0:30:29.560
<v Speaker 2>and they're they're popping, even the bunks, the black, the white,

0:30:29.640 --> 0:30:32.240
<v Speaker 2>the Mexican kids, the Asian kids in o j Z.

0:30:32.440 --> 0:30:36.000
<v Speaker 2>Who's from shore Line Mafia, who's super popular, goes anywhere,

0:30:36.080 --> 0:30:38.680
<v Speaker 2>does an in store, has a line around the corner

0:30:38.760 --> 0:30:40.840
<v Speaker 2>and tells you that you're wrong. What would you tell

0:30:40.920 --> 0:30:41.960
<v Speaker 2>to say that to that kid?

0:30:42.080 --> 0:30:45.080
<v Speaker 1>It's also because it was short Line Mafia.

0:30:45.160 --> 0:30:47.640
<v Speaker 2>Okay, but he's Mexican and he's popping.

0:30:47.360 --> 0:30:50.520
<v Speaker 1>Again he is a part of short Line Mafia.

0:30:50.880 --> 0:30:52.320
<v Speaker 2>Well it was only two of them, right.

0:30:52.280 --> 0:30:55.000
<v Speaker 1>You're missing the point. A movement is completely different than

0:30:55.080 --> 0:30:57.440
<v Speaker 1>him breaking hisself, asking what it looks like now now

0:30:57.480 --> 0:31:00.520
<v Speaker 1>he's hanging on from what he had. He's not gonna

0:31:00.520 --> 0:31:03.320
<v Speaker 1>be popping the same because it's just not it's gonna

0:31:03.360 --> 0:31:05.240
<v Speaker 1>be limited it's gonna get stopped right at the door.

0:31:06.960 --> 0:31:09.600
<v Speaker 1>It's not listen. You can make money in hip hop.

0:31:09.640 --> 0:31:11.760
<v Speaker 1>Anybody can make money with rap music if you just

0:31:11.840 --> 0:31:14.080
<v Speaker 1>do good business. If you know how to do the business,

0:31:14.120 --> 0:31:17.600
<v Speaker 1>you can make money. I will never tell somebody. People

0:31:17.600 --> 0:31:19.560
<v Speaker 1>tell me all the time, Glass, I'm man. I want

0:31:19.600 --> 0:31:21.360
<v Speaker 1>to move my mom out the projects. You need to

0:31:21.400 --> 0:31:22.080
<v Speaker 1>go sell dope.

0:31:22.480 --> 0:31:22.600
<v Speaker 2>Now.

0:31:22.640 --> 0:31:24.200
<v Speaker 1>If you want to make a living, you can do

0:31:24.240 --> 0:31:26.960
<v Speaker 1>it in hip hop. You can do it in hip hop.

0:31:27.360 --> 0:31:29.440
<v Speaker 1>Just do the business. You can find an audience if

0:31:29.480 --> 0:31:33.160
<v Speaker 1>you Culturally, I mean always, Jeez is dope like he does.

0:31:33.320 --> 0:31:37.000
<v Speaker 1>Think he represents a movement of people that's in America

0:31:37.080 --> 0:31:42.560
<v Speaker 1>that is culturally ambiguous. They're just la. But at the

0:31:42.640 --> 0:31:44.840
<v Speaker 1>end of the day, that's not a culture that nobody

0:31:44.880 --> 0:31:48.720
<v Speaker 1>outside of this motherfucker is really gonna represent. The movement

0:31:48.880 --> 0:31:51.960
<v Speaker 1>that was Shoreline Mafia is completely different. That was a

0:31:52.040 --> 0:31:54.960
<v Speaker 1>movement that everybody fucked with. It's a it's a group.

0:31:55.720 --> 0:31:57.360
<v Speaker 1>But if you try to do the same thing on

0:31:57.400 --> 0:31:58.880
<v Speaker 1>your own, you just look crazy.

0:32:00.280 --> 0:32:04.360
<v Speaker 2>So the next artist coming out, you're saying, you wouldn't

0:32:04.720 --> 0:32:08.760
<v Speaker 2>suggest that they go after you know, if they feel

0:32:08.760 --> 0:32:10.880
<v Speaker 2>that they're part of that imagery, Like if you look

0:32:10.920 --> 0:32:13.160
<v Speaker 2>at all the New Mexicans, they all look like that kid.

0:32:13.320 --> 0:32:15.400
<v Speaker 1>Oh geez, you know, I mean they look like black people.

0:32:16.560 --> 0:32:18.680
<v Speaker 2>Is that what we're saying. It's a good conversation, is

0:32:18.680 --> 0:32:19.400
<v Speaker 2>that what we're saying?

0:32:19.800 --> 0:32:23.480
<v Speaker 1>Obviously right? Culturally black people look like the way we dress,

0:32:23.600 --> 0:32:25.560
<v Speaker 1>the way we do our thing, like, the way we talk,

0:32:25.840 --> 0:32:26.880
<v Speaker 1>the lingos.

0:32:26.480 --> 0:32:29.000
<v Speaker 2>That we start, that's what they're doing.

0:32:29.600 --> 0:32:30.800
<v Speaker 1>I mean, would it be fair.

0:32:30.600 --> 0:32:32.440
<v Speaker 3>To say would they be willing to pick up a

0:32:32.480 --> 0:32:34.440
<v Speaker 3>cowboy hatts and boots and hold a rooster?

0:32:35.680 --> 0:32:36.440
<v Speaker 2>Most likely not?

0:32:36.840 --> 0:32:39.360
<v Speaker 1>Or would they be willing to be chicano or solo?

0:32:39.880 --> 0:32:40.720
<v Speaker 1>Most likely not?

0:32:40.800 --> 0:32:43.160
<v Speaker 2>Most likely not because they don't they don't know how

0:32:43.200 --> 0:32:46.960
<v Speaker 2>to The coldest part about like, you know, even these

0:32:47.040 --> 0:32:49.640
<v Speaker 2>records that we've been recording today that you heard, bro like,

0:32:50.360 --> 0:32:53.960
<v Speaker 2>is me trying to figure out how to take everything

0:32:54.000 --> 0:32:56.800
<v Speaker 2>that we've grown up to love about hip hop, from

0:32:57.280 --> 0:33:00.000
<v Speaker 2>let's say East Coast to now g starting to tell

0:33:00.400 --> 0:33:02.720
<v Speaker 2>you never told me no shit like this before. Now

0:33:02.760 --> 0:33:05.920
<v Speaker 2>I have to really go back and I look at like, Okay,

0:33:06.000 --> 0:33:08.400
<v Speaker 2>the West Coast that I listen to, you know, you know,

0:33:08.480 --> 0:33:11.760
<v Speaker 2>if I listen to caution the rascas or whatever, and

0:33:11.800 --> 0:33:15.440
<v Speaker 2>he's telling me, nah, you gotta listen to the godfathers

0:33:15.480 --> 0:33:17.600
<v Speaker 2>of the West Coast, which is like, too.

0:33:17.360 --> 0:33:20.200
<v Speaker 1>Short, that's not hold up, that's not what I'm saying.

0:33:20.880 --> 0:33:25.160
<v Speaker 1>What I'm saying is right that Okay, So there's hip hop,

0:33:25.280 --> 0:33:29.080
<v Speaker 1>street urban culture, the real thing that inspires the arts.

0:33:29.840 --> 0:33:34.200
<v Speaker 1>That's what we're talking about, the thing that inspires the arts. Right.

0:33:34.280 --> 0:33:36.600
<v Speaker 1>So a lot of the kids you're talking about, like

0:33:36.600 --> 0:33:42.760
<v Speaker 1>the Mexican kids coming up rapping, they're inspired by black artists, right.

0:33:42.720 --> 0:33:44.840
<v Speaker 3>Like you say using the word nigga, and a lot

0:33:44.880 --> 0:33:46.200
<v Speaker 3>of the things of it is.

0:33:46.240 --> 0:33:49.720
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, you're inspired by black artists. Now, there are the

0:33:50.480 --> 0:33:54.080
<v Speaker 1>exception of the guys that grew up right where we

0:33:54.200 --> 0:33:56.480
<v Speaker 1>grew up at next to us, and that's how they talk.

0:33:56.880 --> 0:34:01.240
<v Speaker 1>As soon as you step anywhere past the one ten freeway,

0:34:01.440 --> 0:34:04.880
<v Speaker 1>you're gonna start running into kickback because over on that

0:34:04.920 --> 0:34:06.760
<v Speaker 1>side of the freeway, on the west side of the freeway,

0:34:06.840 --> 0:34:09.960
<v Speaker 1>they don't grow up once you pass the hoovers together.

0:34:10.400 --> 0:34:13.680
<v Speaker 1>So culturally we aren't talking the same, you know what

0:34:13.680 --> 0:34:16.520
<v Speaker 1>I mean. Culturally in the sixties is not the same.

0:34:16.560 --> 0:34:19.000
<v Speaker 1>Culturally in the A trades is not the same culturally

0:34:19.080 --> 0:34:21.040
<v Speaker 1>in the thirties is not the same, you know what

0:34:21.040 --> 0:34:24.000
<v Speaker 1>I mean, not as far as Mexicans and blacks. So

0:34:24.120 --> 0:34:26.319
<v Speaker 1>that's where the kickback comes in. Every time you hear

0:34:26.360 --> 0:34:29.560
<v Speaker 1>a Mexican rapper use the N word, you're not gonna

0:34:29.560 --> 0:34:31.799
<v Speaker 1>hear from Glasses because Glasses grew up with one, one,

0:34:31.840 --> 0:34:34.239
<v Speaker 1>sevens and we all talked the same. I've been eating

0:34:34.239 --> 0:34:37.240
<v Speaker 1>savi J since I was seven. It's just certain things

0:34:37.239 --> 0:34:39.520
<v Speaker 1>that we exactly are the same culturally, So they ain't

0:34:39.520 --> 0:34:41.319
<v Speaker 1>gonna have no choice but to talk the way we talk.

0:34:41.400 --> 0:34:44.120
<v Speaker 1>They ain't gonna be able to keep this pure concept

0:34:44.120 --> 0:34:48.400
<v Speaker 1>of solo culture because literally we're exchanging we in the

0:34:48.440 --> 0:34:50.279
<v Speaker 1>mix all the time, and I don't give a fuck.

0:34:50.880 --> 0:34:52.560
<v Speaker 1>You know, you're gonna be getting called a nigga a

0:34:52.600 --> 0:34:55.800
<v Speaker 1>million times, and most likely it could rub off you

0:34:55.840 --> 0:34:57.239
<v Speaker 1>know what I'm saying. But it's gonna be hard for

0:34:57.360 --> 0:34:59.560
<v Speaker 1>other people to accept it once you pass the one

0:34:59.640 --> 0:35:01.759
<v Speaker 1>ten free anyway, let alone, you start getting out of

0:35:01.760 --> 0:35:04.880
<v Speaker 1>this out of the state, you start getting out of state,

0:35:05.160 --> 0:35:08.359
<v Speaker 1>you're gonna have fucking problems. Motherfucker's gonna be like uh uh,

0:35:08.520 --> 0:35:11.960
<v Speaker 1>because that's not their life, got it? You know what

0:35:11.960 --> 0:35:15.360
<v Speaker 1>I'm saying. So that's dope. But if you ask me

0:35:15.440 --> 0:35:17.920
<v Speaker 1>what I think like a Mexican hip hop artist of

0:35:17.920 --> 0:35:20.680
<v Speaker 1>today should do. They gotta do what they do. That's real.

0:35:21.200 --> 0:35:26.880
<v Speaker 1>But but you gotta be mindful of the business, you

0:35:26.880 --> 0:35:29.520
<v Speaker 1>know what I mean. Like there are artists making a living,

0:35:29.760 --> 0:35:32.279
<v Speaker 1>you know, like we was talking about Sweden. It's people

0:35:32.320 --> 0:35:34.279
<v Speaker 1>that's been making a living off of this. Little g

0:35:34.520 --> 0:35:36.680
<v Speaker 1>is doing well, but little Ji is the biggest one

0:35:36.719 --> 0:35:40.439
<v Speaker 1>because he embraces Trolo culture. You I mean, But there

0:35:40.480 --> 0:35:43.200
<v Speaker 1>are the Oasgzi's the outliers, you know what I mean,

0:35:43.239 --> 0:35:46.359
<v Speaker 1>those guys who come apart. But again, when you explain it,

0:35:46.560 --> 0:35:48.000
<v Speaker 1>they're part of other things.

0:35:48.320 --> 0:35:50.319
<v Speaker 2>So let me ask you a question, Jaz, I gotta

0:35:50.360 --> 0:35:52.880
<v Speaker 2>ask them right now that you said that. When you

0:35:52.960 --> 0:35:54.960
<v Speaker 2>look at a little Gene, you look at how he

0:35:55.120 --> 0:35:59.520
<v Speaker 2>dresses and all that's he embodiment oflo Chicano culture or

0:35:59.600 --> 0:36:02.640
<v Speaker 2>is he more or trying to is he also? Like

0:36:02.680 --> 0:36:03.520
<v Speaker 2>I think he's both.

0:36:04.120 --> 0:36:06.520
<v Speaker 3>I think he's found a way to mix both. Because

0:36:06.560 --> 0:36:09.080
<v Speaker 3>I won't forget the letter to doctor Dre. I know

0:36:09.120 --> 0:36:12.239
<v Speaker 3>what you want. I know what you've been wanting. You're

0:36:12.239 --> 0:36:15.799
<v Speaker 3>asking Doctor Dre let me in, so you won in

0:36:16.040 --> 0:36:20.960
<v Speaker 3>on the quote unquote black cultural side of hip hop.

0:36:20.719 --> 0:36:24.080
<v Speaker 1>And rap to be produced by Doctor Dre and to bed,

0:36:25.000 --> 0:36:27.200
<v Speaker 1>which I've always thought that was and not to cut

0:36:27.239 --> 0:36:30.160
<v Speaker 1>you just forgive me. I've always thought that's a mistake

0:36:31.080 --> 0:36:34.000
<v Speaker 1>for them. For these motherfuckers not to be reaching towards

0:36:34.040 --> 0:36:35.960
<v Speaker 1>Mugs is disrespectful.

0:36:36.520 --> 0:36:38.719
<v Speaker 2>Man like Mugs.

0:36:38.400 --> 0:36:42.120
<v Speaker 1>Should have thirty phone calls a day of motherfucker saying

0:36:42.440 --> 0:36:46.279
<v Speaker 1>of Mexican artists coming up in hipologist. No, he does

0:36:46.360 --> 0:36:50.439
<v Speaker 1>not have thirty phone calls. No, he don't know. There's

0:36:50.480 --> 0:36:52.160
<v Speaker 1>no letter to DJ Muggs.

0:36:53.320 --> 0:36:56.920
<v Speaker 2>That's fine, but I'm pretty sure there is definitely line. Now,

0:36:57.000 --> 0:36:59.040
<v Speaker 2>it might not be the artist he wants to work with,

0:36:59.680 --> 0:37:02.399
<v Speaker 2>but I'm pretty sure people like I respect the fuck

0:37:02.400 --> 0:37:04.520
<v Speaker 2>out of Mugs. Yeah, but but but more so over

0:37:04.520 --> 0:37:07.240
<v Speaker 2>the last few years because Yah, eyes.

0:37:07.120 --> 0:37:11.360
<v Speaker 1>What I'm telling you, it's not You don't hear people

0:37:11.440 --> 0:37:14.160
<v Speaker 1>saying as what artists you want to work with? Man

0:37:14.440 --> 0:37:17.600
<v Speaker 1>DJ Mugs, what producers? They're not saying that.

0:37:18.239 --> 0:37:20.040
<v Speaker 2>Well, I'm gonna tell you the bottom line too, and

0:37:20.120 --> 0:37:22.320
<v Speaker 2>this is and this is and we're all a victim

0:37:22.360 --> 0:37:26.960
<v Speaker 2>of this of as far as Mexicans Latinos in hip hop,

0:37:27.480 --> 0:37:31.120
<v Speaker 2>we don't grow up praising our guys enough. And that's

0:37:31.200 --> 0:37:33.719
<v Speaker 2>kind of you know, you know, even getting older, I

0:37:33.760 --> 0:37:35.880
<v Speaker 2>don't care. I'm starting to do that more is like

0:37:36.000 --> 0:37:38.680
<v Speaker 2>you know, you love to Frost, love to fucking Mellow

0:37:38.719 --> 0:37:42.239
<v Speaker 2>Maynase for opening those doors because without them we were

0:37:42.280 --> 0:37:43.000
<v Speaker 2>not here. Bro.

0:37:43.320 --> 0:37:46.279
<v Speaker 3>But so, like you say, so, we're just going part two.

0:37:46.640 --> 0:37:54.200
<v Speaker 3>Mexicans and hip hop mexic is removed, Mugs, Mellow Mayonnase,

0:37:54.239 --> 0:37:57.520
<v Speaker 3>all these people because they're not Mexican. Well, I think,

0:37:57.920 --> 0:38:00.560
<v Speaker 3>what is it that you're asking for as Mexicans and

0:38:00.640 --> 0:38:05.279
<v Speaker 3>hip hop? No ot Mexican ot, he's Mexican, Like, why

0:38:05.320 --> 0:38:08.480
<v Speaker 3>can't he get that recognition.

0:38:08.040 --> 0:38:11.200
<v Speaker 2>Getting the recognition though? So what I'm saying is I

0:38:11.200 --> 0:38:14.880
<v Speaker 2>think the more and more we actually show love to

0:38:14.920 --> 0:38:18.959
<v Speaker 2>one another and respect it, it starts to all come

0:38:19.040 --> 0:38:20.360
<v Speaker 2>together and make sense.

0:38:20.600 --> 0:38:24.680
<v Speaker 3>I think at one point in Mexican hip hop, people

0:38:24.800 --> 0:38:28.640
<v Speaker 3>Forget Mexicans was running Power one oh six, they were

0:38:28.719 --> 0:38:33.800
<v Speaker 3>running radio station Lighter Shade of Browns. All these groups

0:38:34.120 --> 0:38:38.240
<v Speaker 3>had the radio on lock. But like you said, start

0:38:38.280 --> 0:38:41.600
<v Speaker 3>reaching out to people instead of keeping it and reaching

0:38:41.640 --> 0:38:42.880
<v Speaker 3>out to the.

0:38:43.560 --> 0:38:47.239
<v Speaker 1>Mexican, the guys that empower Latin hip hop artists.

0:38:46.960 --> 0:38:49.840
<v Speaker 3>On the web, reaching out out of it again.

0:38:49.920 --> 0:38:53.080
<v Speaker 1>Again, like I said, like letter to doctor Dre is

0:38:53.120 --> 0:38:55.560
<v Speaker 1>adult record because it's like, why haven't you worked with

0:38:55.600 --> 0:38:58.919
<v Speaker 1>a Mexican as doctor Dre. But if you really think

0:38:58.960 --> 0:39:03.160
<v Speaker 1>about it, that letters should probably be to mugs because

0:39:03.239 --> 0:39:08.040
<v Speaker 1>Mugs understands what it takes to move the community. That's representation,

0:39:08.280 --> 0:39:11.560
<v Speaker 1>the representation. He gets it, and that's all doctor Dre

0:39:11.760 --> 0:39:16.920
<v Speaker 1>is known for years. Like doctor Dre's greatest, you know, accomplishment,

0:39:17.040 --> 0:39:18.959
<v Speaker 1>A lot of people could think it's eminem. I don't

0:39:18.960 --> 0:39:22.200
<v Speaker 1>think so. I think doctor Dre's greatest accomplishment is Snoop Dogg.

0:39:22.239 --> 0:39:24.879
<v Speaker 2>I'm gonna tell you something else. Mugs being from the

0:39:24.920 --> 0:39:27.800
<v Speaker 2>East Coast is a big part of what I think.

0:39:28.000 --> 0:39:31.400
<v Speaker 2>Why Mexicans are so are probably not what you're saying

0:39:31.480 --> 0:39:34.080
<v Speaker 2>right now, and why they go after well, no, they

0:39:34.120 --> 0:39:38.080
<v Speaker 2>go after doctor Dre because Doctor Dre and most Chicano's

0:39:38.080 --> 0:39:42.239
<v Speaker 2>mind is going to give them the gangster g funk sound,

0:39:42.280 --> 0:39:44.520
<v Speaker 2>which he never even produced G funk.

0:39:44.400 --> 0:39:47.600
<v Speaker 1>Like that, I don't think to some degree, to some degree,

0:39:47.600 --> 0:39:52.239
<v Speaker 1>but first, well, no, for the first four or five years, Like,

0:39:52.280 --> 0:39:53.919
<v Speaker 1>you can't see me as a G funk song.

0:39:54.160 --> 0:39:56.799
<v Speaker 2>Okay, So that's why they go after a doctor dre

0:39:56.920 --> 0:40:01.280
<v Speaker 2>because they want that sound that they've accustomed to loving

0:40:01.360 --> 0:40:04.719
<v Speaker 2>to hear from Tupac from their favorite artist, to dog

0:40:04.760 --> 0:40:07.400
<v Speaker 2>Pound from Snoop Dogg. So then they go after that.

0:40:07.480 --> 0:40:11.040
<v Speaker 2>Whereas when you look at Mugs, who knows exactly what

0:40:11.080 --> 0:40:14.040
<v Speaker 2>we need because he's shown you by bringing you Cyprus

0:40:14.160 --> 0:40:16.360
<v Speaker 2>Hill and Psycho Realm.

0:40:16.480 --> 0:40:18.359
<v Speaker 1>And why did you say Muggs is not from la

0:40:18.440 --> 0:40:20.359
<v Speaker 1>I didn't get that, if I'm.

0:40:20.280 --> 0:40:23.640
<v Speaker 2>Not mistaken, He's originally from the East Coast.

0:40:23.600 --> 0:40:25.600
<v Speaker 1>But he was, like I think he's been out here

0:40:25.640 --> 0:40:26.839
<v Speaker 1>since he was a little kid.

0:40:26.920 --> 0:40:29.440
<v Speaker 2>No, I know that. But his influence in his sound

0:40:29.480 --> 0:40:31.840
<v Speaker 2>when you listen to it, like for the most probably

0:40:31.840 --> 0:40:36.160
<v Speaker 2>I think people associated with more of that like underground

0:40:36.280 --> 0:40:39.520
<v Speaker 2>hip hop sound, which they associate with the East Coast.

0:40:39.239 --> 0:40:41.840
<v Speaker 1>I don't know if I don't think that's true because

0:40:42.440 --> 0:40:44.280
<v Speaker 1>I don't know. Well, because he had the biggest records

0:40:44.320 --> 0:40:48.080
<v Speaker 1>in the country. Yeah, so he can't be no underground.

0:40:49.320 --> 0:40:55.000
<v Speaker 2>Again, you're saying, why don't you have more Mexican Chicanos doing,

0:40:55.080 --> 0:40:57.480
<v Speaker 2>Like why don't you have the letter to to DJ

0:40:57.600 --> 0:41:00.720
<v Speaker 2>Muggs instead of Doctor Dre. I'm giving you what I think.

0:41:01.239 --> 0:41:03.879
<v Speaker 2>That's what I believe. I'm not saying what you're saying.

0:41:04.000 --> 0:41:07.359
<v Speaker 2>Obviously he's had the biggest records. You know, he's had

0:41:07.360 --> 0:41:09.839
<v Speaker 2>the biggest artist they've had. They you know, cypress Hill

0:41:09.880 --> 0:41:11.880
<v Speaker 2>had a Let's keep it a buck. How long was

0:41:12.080 --> 0:41:14.960
<v Speaker 2>cypres Hill's run? Almost ten years? Fifteen?

0:41:15.000 --> 0:41:16.760
<v Speaker 1>Yehuge records?

0:41:16.800 --> 0:41:20.120
<v Speaker 2>Like they had a solid ten year run for sure. Well,

0:41:20.320 --> 0:41:24.680
<v Speaker 2>I mean like just because from Okay, look it up, Gee,

0:41:24.880 --> 0:41:27.239
<v Speaker 2>because you're always good with that. Like what was their

0:41:27.280 --> 0:41:29.080
<v Speaker 2>first hit record? Was it Killer Man?

0:41:29.360 --> 0:41:31.320
<v Speaker 1>Let Me look hold on Sergey?

0:41:31.719 --> 0:41:36.239
<v Speaker 3>The first one that probably went was off the what

0:41:36.360 --> 0:41:39.440
<v Speaker 3>was the Last Action Hero? They had some some movie

0:41:39.480 --> 0:41:41.120
<v Speaker 3>ones that they came out on movie.

0:41:40.840 --> 0:41:43.280
<v Speaker 1>How I Can Just Kill a Man is nineteen ninety one.

0:41:43.440 --> 0:41:47.640
<v Speaker 2>So what was Okay? When was and when was like being.

0:41:47.560 --> 0:41:50.719
<v Speaker 1>Real Rock super did River Cabino for Miller man Ace

0:41:50.800 --> 0:41:51.560
<v Speaker 1>at eighty nine?

0:41:52.520 --> 0:41:55.839
<v Speaker 3>That's Rock Superstar? Is that from the movie Last Action Hero?

0:41:55.960 --> 0:41:58.200
<v Speaker 2>So that was later, That's what I'm saying. So when

0:41:58.320 --> 0:41:59.319
<v Speaker 2>was when was that one?

0:42:00.600 --> 0:42:02.680
<v Speaker 1>You're sitting there is a nice saying in the membrane.

0:42:02.920 --> 0:42:05.359
<v Speaker 2>When was that that was that was that was way

0:42:05.400 --> 0:42:08.120
<v Speaker 2>earlier because that was closer to Killer Man. That might

0:42:08.160 --> 0:42:10.719
<v Speaker 2>have been like two three years after that, I believe.

0:42:12.160 --> 0:42:14.759
<v Speaker 1>Looking looking looking, hold on, hold.

0:42:14.520 --> 0:42:16.439
<v Speaker 3>On, they have many Doctor Green.

0:42:16.600 --> 0:42:20.239
<v Speaker 1>That Superstar is two thousand, so it's ten years.

0:42:20.320 --> 0:42:22.719
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, it's like a ten years because to me

0:42:22.920 --> 0:42:26.000
<v Speaker 2>and again they kept going. But I think Rock Rock

0:42:26.040 --> 0:42:29.520
<v Speaker 2>Superstars two thousand wasn't that. The was Doctor Greentham after.

0:42:29.360 --> 0:42:31.439
<v Speaker 3>That, I know my name is doctor.

0:42:31.680 --> 0:42:35.279
<v Speaker 2>That was ninety okay, so it was before that then

0:42:35.320 --> 0:42:36.680
<v Speaker 2>because that one was two thousand.

0:42:36.960 --> 0:42:38.640
<v Speaker 1>Load Riders in two thousand and one.

0:42:39.840 --> 0:42:41.239
<v Speaker 2>Low Rider was two thousand and one.

0:42:41.440 --> 0:42:46.319
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, no, what's your number? Was two thousand and four?

0:42:47.360 --> 0:42:48.319
<v Speaker 2>Which one was that one?

0:42:48.920 --> 0:42:50.760
<v Speaker 1>That was the last one? I think I remember?

0:42:51.160 --> 0:42:52.000
<v Speaker 2>How did that one go.

0:42:54.200 --> 0:42:59.400
<v Speaker 1>All up? But that's my point. At a certain place,

0:42:59.840 --> 0:43:02.720
<v Speaker 1>you gotta go with who's moving the community to some degree,

0:43:02.719 --> 0:43:06.360
<v Speaker 1>and I just think listen, hip hop is a much

0:43:06.440 --> 0:43:09.239
<v Speaker 1>more like you can't have a white approach to hip

0:43:09.280 --> 0:43:11.160
<v Speaker 1>hop and be like, oh this person is this so

0:43:11.360 --> 0:43:13.200
<v Speaker 1>like he's from the West, so this makes it work,

0:43:13.280 --> 0:43:16.040
<v Speaker 1>Like you got to accept that we do have separate

0:43:16.080 --> 0:43:19.759
<v Speaker 1>communities to some degree, like an LA artists can't just

0:43:19.800 --> 0:43:22.960
<v Speaker 1>go like. Don't get me wrong. Q did fantastic with

0:43:23.040 --> 0:43:26.400
<v Speaker 1>the Bomb Squad and people really consider those albums his classic.

0:43:26.440 --> 0:43:28.600
<v Speaker 1>But it was different when he got with DJ Pooh,

0:43:28.680 --> 0:43:30.400
<v Speaker 1>those records start hitting crazy.

0:43:30.960 --> 0:43:32.600
<v Speaker 2>Listen this reator to the news.

0:43:32.760 --> 0:43:34.560
<v Speaker 1>This is what I mean. Today was a good day.

0:43:37.040 --> 0:43:40.680
<v Speaker 2>This is what I'm saying, though, Look like, Okay, when

0:43:40.719 --> 0:43:43.040
<v Speaker 2>I see Little Like when I see Little g Right,

0:43:44.719 --> 0:43:48.200
<v Speaker 2>I see the influence of Tupacs. Is that fair to say?

0:43:48.280 --> 0:43:50.000
<v Speaker 3>The vasace and the whole milk?

0:43:50.400 --> 0:43:55.480
<v Speaker 2>Sure? So my question becomes, why don't or am I

0:43:55.640 --> 0:43:57.359
<v Speaker 2>just not seeing it? Maybe? Am I out the loop?

0:43:57.480 --> 0:43:59.919
<v Speaker 2>You guys can help me with this. I should see

0:44:00.080 --> 0:44:02.279
<v Speaker 2>And this is what I'm saying by us growing as

0:44:02.480 --> 0:44:04.839
<v Speaker 2>a culture in hip hop the way we want to,

0:44:05.760 --> 0:44:07.279
<v Speaker 2>And this is something I wish I would have done,

0:44:07.320 --> 0:44:10.160
<v Speaker 2>Like I should have been looking up to Cypress Hill.

0:44:10.640 --> 0:44:13.000
<v Speaker 1>This is different. You have Frost, you'd have a totally

0:44:13.000 --> 0:44:14.680
<v Speaker 1>different Well, Okay, but.

0:44:14.600 --> 0:44:17.120
<v Speaker 2>If I'm saying I probably would have had a way

0:44:17.160 --> 0:44:19.960
<v Speaker 2>more successful career than if I would have looked up

0:44:19.960 --> 0:44:23.360
<v Speaker 2>to the Mexican artist and take it like Little Rob

0:44:23.800 --> 0:44:25.919
<v Speaker 2>even though he probably looked up to Pok he looked

0:44:26.000 --> 0:44:29.279
<v Speaker 2>up to Frost for sure, I don't care what sure.

0:44:29.400 --> 0:44:32.920
<v Speaker 1>Sure, But hip hop also is not just other musicians.

0:44:32.960 --> 0:44:35.400
<v Speaker 1>It's outside. And that's what I used to tell you

0:44:35.480 --> 0:44:38.080
<v Speaker 1>and means all the time. If you don't make music

0:44:38.120 --> 0:44:43.560
<v Speaker 1>for what's outside your front door, problem one in hip hop,

0:44:44.040 --> 0:44:46.479
<v Speaker 1>that's the cornerstone. Hip hop is making music for what's

0:44:46.480 --> 0:44:49.880
<v Speaker 1>outside your front door. So when you lived in Threst

0:44:49.880 --> 0:44:52.799
<v Speaker 1>says in Englewood, that's the motherfuckers you make mousic If

0:44:52.840 --> 0:44:56.640
<v Speaker 1>you skip them, you asking for a lot. You asking

0:44:56.680 --> 0:44:59.880
<v Speaker 1>for a lot. I mean, only Asian people go to

0:45:00.040 --> 0:45:02.360
<v Speaker 1>other people community and sell fried chicken and ship. That

0:45:02.480 --> 0:45:06.280
<v Speaker 1>is not even normal. You don't see Mexican people going

0:45:06.640 --> 0:45:09.759
<v Speaker 1>to other motherfucker's community selling Italian food. You can go

0:45:09.840 --> 0:45:12.360
<v Speaker 1>to the Italian community. Only Asian people get away with

0:45:12.760 --> 0:45:14.160
<v Speaker 1>going out there open Luisiana.

0:45:14.400 --> 0:45:16.759
<v Speaker 2>That's why stupid young gets away with doing what he's doing.

0:45:17.200 --> 0:45:20.080
<v Speaker 1>Well, he's from Loan Beach To, but he's from Loan

0:45:20.080 --> 0:45:24.200
<v Speaker 1>Beach To and so like where they're from, is they surrounded,

0:45:24.280 --> 0:45:27.120
<v Speaker 1>they bathed in flavor bro like the like they hold

0:45:27.200 --> 0:45:29.879
<v Speaker 1>like again, he's gonna have every time he goes somewhere

0:45:29.880 --> 0:45:32.600
<v Speaker 1>else he's he's gonna have a problem, but he's right.

0:45:32.640 --> 0:45:35.239
<v Speaker 2>But in the city, as an Asian dude, he's them

0:45:35.360 --> 0:45:35.879
<v Speaker 2>fairly well.

0:45:36.120 --> 0:45:38.399
<v Speaker 1>But that's why nobody's gonna give him shipped, like any

0:45:38.680 --> 0:45:40.600
<v Speaker 1>any of us gonna be like he's from you know,

0:45:40.600 --> 0:45:42.879
<v Speaker 1>he's from Asian boys, so we know that's Long Beach

0:45:42.960 --> 0:45:43.759
<v Speaker 1>like them, Loan Beach.

0:45:44.160 --> 0:45:46.920
<v Speaker 2>He goes and tries to perform for somebody in Montabello,

0:45:47.000 --> 0:45:48.560
<v Speaker 2>it might not go over as well.

0:45:48.640 --> 0:45:51.280
<v Speaker 1>Let's find in Montabello he takes ass to Saint Louis.

0:45:52.200 --> 0:45:55.680
<v Speaker 1>They might hang his ass, they might lynch and hangers ass.

0:45:55.680 --> 0:45:57.680
<v Speaker 2>See. And it always makes sense because then you go

0:45:57.840 --> 0:46:01.919
<v Speaker 2>back to someone from the East Coast like Jin, who

0:46:02.000 --> 0:46:05.240
<v Speaker 2>was all, say, the East Coast version of what Super

0:46:05.280 --> 0:46:05.839
<v Speaker 2>Young is.

0:46:05.719 --> 0:46:11.480
<v Speaker 1>To the West. No, no, no, Jin Jin.

0:46:11.640 --> 0:46:14.080
<v Speaker 2>Well, I guess well, what I'm trying to tie into

0:46:14.239 --> 0:46:16.440
<v Speaker 2>is the fact that he was a rapper that was

0:46:16.480 --> 0:46:20.080
<v Speaker 2>accepted for these kind of like real East Coast battle

0:46:20.160 --> 0:46:23.959
<v Speaker 2>rap rhymes. But it never really transcended once he left

0:46:23.960 --> 0:46:26.560
<v Speaker 2>New York. It didn't really work like he did, you know,

0:46:26.640 --> 0:46:27.279
<v Speaker 2>be just.

0:46:27.239 --> 0:46:29.399
<v Speaker 1>To some degree. But I just don't think people looked

0:46:29.440 --> 0:46:31.240
<v Speaker 1>at Jin as a street artist.

0:46:31.560 --> 0:46:32.040
<v Speaker 2>But again.

0:46:32.120 --> 0:46:34.640
<v Speaker 1>You know MCing in General Street in New York.

0:46:35.040 --> 0:46:37.520
<v Speaker 3>You brought up Pitt Boo earlier. And I always say,

0:46:37.560 --> 0:46:39.839
<v Speaker 3>people forget or people don't even know.

0:46:39.960 --> 0:46:42.360
<v Speaker 1>It was a battle. He was a battle and he

0:46:42.440 --> 0:46:44.640
<v Speaker 1>was hellodope.

0:46:44.960 --> 0:46:47.279
<v Speaker 2>Once he did Gulo and he's seen, He's like, oh,

0:46:47.320 --> 0:46:48.200
<v Speaker 2>this is what it is.

0:46:48.200 --> 0:46:50.279
<v Speaker 1>He put that Latin twist on that ship, put that

0:46:50.320 --> 0:46:51.239
<v Speaker 1>Latin flavor on there.

0:46:51.600 --> 0:46:55.080
<v Speaker 2>Look, bro, I've dropped just certain little records here and there,

0:46:55.080 --> 0:46:57.759
<v Speaker 2>like the Mechicano record, which is almost ten years old. Bro,

0:46:57.840 --> 0:47:00.759
<v Speaker 2>people still bring that ship up. That was during that time,

0:47:00.880 --> 0:47:03.000
<v Speaker 2>was when g had already started telling me you need

0:47:03.040 --> 0:47:05.479
<v Speaker 2>to talk to your people. I was at that point.

0:47:05.520 --> 0:47:07.440
<v Speaker 2>I've been trying to figure it out. So the music

0:47:07.480 --> 0:47:09.720
<v Speaker 2>you're hearing now is another evolution. What I do believe

0:47:09.800 --> 0:47:12.120
<v Speaker 2>is when I start dropping this shit, it's going to

0:47:12.239 --> 0:47:15.399
<v Speaker 2>open more eyes. It's it's in more ears, sure, because

0:47:15.400 --> 0:47:18.400
<v Speaker 2>they're gonna be like, what's tras on? Because the reality

0:47:18.400 --> 0:47:20.359
<v Speaker 2>of it is is And that's why he'd be telling

0:47:20.360 --> 0:47:23.840
<v Speaker 2>me you rap too much? Is because I'm still trying

0:47:23.840 --> 0:47:27.240
<v Speaker 2>to find the actual how it's supposed to sound. Because

0:47:27.320 --> 0:47:30.000
<v Speaker 2>I'm still trying to take like Bridge like the hip

0:47:30.000 --> 0:47:32.239
<v Speaker 2>hop with the Chicano. So I'm still trying to.

0:47:32.440 --> 0:47:35.400
<v Speaker 1>And that's business that you didn't realize that Chicano is

0:47:35.440 --> 0:47:36.160
<v Speaker 1>the hip hop.

0:47:36.080 --> 0:47:37.600
<v Speaker 2>The Chicano is the hip hop.

0:47:37.719 --> 0:47:41.080
<v Speaker 1>So he's trying to bridge New York with Chicano and

0:47:41.120 --> 0:47:42.080
<v Speaker 1>the own bridge.

0:47:42.480 --> 0:47:47.759
<v Speaker 2>Yes and again because I'm getting that.

0:47:46.760 --> 0:47:50.080
<v Speaker 1>Well, yeah, because it is a hard because but but

0:47:50.520 --> 0:47:54.160
<v Speaker 1>in his defense, for years, people have thought hip hop

0:47:54.320 --> 0:47:56.640
<v Speaker 1>was the music. So people thought if I listened to

0:47:56.640 --> 0:47:59.680
<v Speaker 1>the music, I am hip hop because that's the nuance

0:47:59.719 --> 0:48:03.440
<v Speaker 1>given off the culture. But it's not. Hip Hop is

0:48:03.520 --> 0:48:08.040
<v Speaker 1>not the fucking music, it's the culture. Like, so he's

0:48:08.080 --> 0:48:10.120
<v Speaker 1>trying to bridge Chicano hip hop, and that's what I

0:48:10.360 --> 0:48:12.880
<v Speaker 1>That's what like when I'm recording, because I'm like, stop

0:48:13.000 --> 0:48:18.279
<v Speaker 1>doing that. Chikano is hip hop, Cholo is hip hop.

0:48:18.360 --> 0:48:22.200
<v Speaker 1>That's why Little Rob is successful. It is hip hop.

0:48:23.000 --> 0:48:26.560
<v Speaker 1>Cripping is hip hop. Snoop didn't have to put no

0:48:26.760 --> 0:48:29.360
<v Speaker 1>New York twists on that shit. Man kick that shit

0:48:29.400 --> 0:48:32.520
<v Speaker 1>the way them Long Beast niggas kicked it. You don't

0:48:32.600 --> 0:48:34.799
<v Speaker 1>got to cut it down Eve forty and had to

0:48:34.800 --> 0:48:38.560
<v Speaker 1>put no New York on that Valayho shit on that

0:48:38.600 --> 0:48:40.680
<v Speaker 1>bay area shit. Serve that shit rock.

0:48:40.800 --> 0:48:43.040
<v Speaker 2>He gave hip hop half of its lingo from the

0:48:43.080 --> 0:48:44.319
<v Speaker 2>East to the West.

0:48:44.120 --> 0:48:46.319
<v Speaker 1>And they don't even have to have respect for him

0:48:46.320 --> 0:48:49.160
<v Speaker 1>out there in New York. They don't fucking too short.

0:48:49.640 --> 0:48:52.200
<v Speaker 1>When you don't got to put no fucking New York

0:48:52.320 --> 0:48:54.840
<v Speaker 1>on your shit, you don't gotta put none of that

0:48:54.960 --> 0:48:58.000
<v Speaker 1>shit on your shit. Serve that shit straight out from

0:48:58.000 --> 0:49:01.600
<v Speaker 1>outside Joe front door. You have success if you serve it.

0:49:01.719 --> 0:49:03.320
<v Speaker 1>If you take out your mom, when you get in

0:49:03.400 --> 0:49:06.000
<v Speaker 1>your mom records and you play this shit she was playing,

0:49:06.040 --> 0:49:08.320
<v Speaker 1>you take you find you a dope break and build

0:49:08.360 --> 0:49:11.000
<v Speaker 1>on that break, and you serve that shit because she

0:49:11.160 --> 0:49:14.080
<v Speaker 1>playing what's outside. You serve that shit up. You don't

0:49:14.080 --> 0:49:17.080
<v Speaker 1>got to put nothing on that No New York season

0:49:17.719 --> 0:49:21.120
<v Speaker 1>is needed. You don't need to. That's the problem. People

0:49:21.200 --> 0:49:24.080
<v Speaker 1>keep looking at hip hop like it's just New York

0:49:24.160 --> 0:49:27.640
<v Speaker 1>and it's not. And that's why the biggest artist that's

0:49:27.640 --> 0:49:30.719
<v Speaker 1>been successful are the ones for different reasons who did

0:49:30.840 --> 0:49:34.520
<v Speaker 1>their own shit. That's why Outcast they went super Southern.

0:49:34.840 --> 0:49:36.839
<v Speaker 1>They pulled back from all them breaks and said we're

0:49:36.840 --> 0:49:39.359
<v Speaker 1>gonna go super Southern with the Dungeon family, gonna make

0:49:39.400 --> 0:49:43.560
<v Speaker 1>these this band type of shit and boom hit boom bone.

0:49:43.600 --> 0:49:47.319
<v Speaker 1>Ain't take nothing from New York. Them niggas, if nothing else.

0:49:47.360 --> 0:49:49.359
<v Speaker 1>They look closer to niggas like out here. But even

0:49:49.400 --> 0:49:52.560
<v Speaker 1>them niggas out there was where work closed dickies. So again,

0:49:52.680 --> 0:49:54.880
<v Speaker 1>their style came from R and B. That shit is

0:49:55.080 --> 0:49:58.320
<v Speaker 1>all at Midwest motown shit. They don't. They don't try

0:49:58.360 --> 0:50:02.120
<v Speaker 1>to be kicking bars and shit. Them niggas be on harmony.

0:50:02.480 --> 0:50:05.080
<v Speaker 2>And again this is something that I'm just gonna hold

0:50:05.120 --> 0:50:08.000
<v Speaker 2>to myself and hold myself accountable. This is what I

0:50:08.080 --> 0:50:11.000
<v Speaker 2>grew up on. So again, what she's saying is also

0:50:11.120 --> 0:50:14.839
<v Speaker 2>an older mentality because when we're talking to young la

0:50:15.640 --> 0:50:18.719
<v Speaker 2>their influence, whether you whether that he wants to admit

0:50:18.800 --> 0:50:20.799
<v Speaker 2>it or not, a lot of these young kids they're

0:50:20.840 --> 0:50:23.359
<v Speaker 2>all trying to sound like the South now because at

0:50:23.360 --> 0:50:26.480
<v Speaker 2>this point people think hip hop is what the South

0:50:26.560 --> 0:50:29.239
<v Speaker 2>is doing. Listen to a lot of the new kids,

0:50:29.239 --> 0:50:30.440
<v Speaker 2>that's what they're trying to sound like.

0:50:30.520 --> 0:50:32.399
<v Speaker 1>I don't think they even look at it like hip

0:50:32.400 --> 0:50:34.759
<v Speaker 1>hop no more. I think they think of success is

0:50:34.760 --> 0:50:35.239
<v Speaker 1>what the sound.

0:50:35.560 --> 0:50:37.520
<v Speaker 2>But that's what we were thinking about it as too.

0:50:37.560 --> 0:50:39.320
<v Speaker 2>It was like the hip hop was coming out of

0:50:39.360 --> 0:50:41.279
<v Speaker 2>the East, so we didn't thought that's what it was.

0:50:41.640 --> 0:50:46.800
<v Speaker 1>Nah, even y'all was still chasing the music. They're chasing success.

0:50:47.120 --> 0:50:50.160
<v Speaker 1>They're not even chasing music no more. They like, Man,

0:50:50.160 --> 0:50:52.000
<v Speaker 1>I don't care if this nigga wear a dress he winning.

0:50:53.480 --> 0:50:55.080
<v Speaker 1>I don't care if this nigga wear a perse hes

0:50:55.120 --> 0:50:57.600
<v Speaker 1>mainking money. I don't care if this nigga paint his

0:50:57.600 --> 0:51:00.600
<v Speaker 1>fingernault policy he rich or at this voice niche. I

0:51:00.600 --> 0:51:02.800
<v Speaker 1>don't care if that nigga told the police that nigga

0:51:02.920 --> 0:51:06.000
<v Speaker 1>is paid. They don't have no morals or nothing. We

0:51:06.120 --> 0:51:09.960
<v Speaker 1>still care, Like I still cared about being solid. They

0:51:09.960 --> 0:51:12.560
<v Speaker 1>don't care. They'll be a bit. That's why I always said,

0:51:12.600 --> 0:51:16.560
<v Speaker 1>Like I remember growing up thinking, I never I'm liberal.

0:51:16.680 --> 0:51:21.440
<v Speaker 1>I'm super liberal, like more liberal than liberals. Like nothing

0:51:21.480 --> 0:51:24.520
<v Speaker 1>about me is nothing else but liberal, right, I believe

0:51:24.719 --> 0:51:28.160
<v Speaker 1>in liberty for real, you know what I mean? Doing

0:51:28.239 --> 0:51:31.960
<v Speaker 1>your thing. I used to never think there was no way,

0:51:32.400 --> 0:51:35.640
<v Speaker 1>like I would never mind like an LGBTQ plus ad

0:51:35.719 --> 0:51:38.239
<v Speaker 1>or film. I'm like, ain't nobody choosing to take dick?

0:51:38.520 --> 0:51:41.480
<v Speaker 1>If you taking dick as a man, you're gay, because

0:51:41.520 --> 0:51:43.800
<v Speaker 1>that's a hell of a commitment. That's a different type

0:51:43.800 --> 0:51:48.279
<v Speaker 1>of pain. That's a different type of suffering. Taking Dick,

0:51:49.480 --> 0:51:52.680
<v Speaker 1>that's gotta be crazy. If you a guy, you know less,

0:51:52.680 --> 0:51:54.960
<v Speaker 1>somebody get behind you and serve you. Oh, I can't

0:51:55.000 --> 0:51:57.880
<v Speaker 1>just see it. It's just not gonna happen. So I

0:51:57.960 --> 0:52:00.600
<v Speaker 1>used to think it's no way possible that you can

0:52:00.680 --> 0:52:04.040
<v Speaker 1>influence somebody to that type of commitment. I am wrong.

0:52:04.560 --> 0:52:07.000
<v Speaker 1>I'm here to tell you a twenty twenty three cuz

0:52:07.160 --> 0:52:11.640
<v Speaker 1>I am wrong. Niggas will do it. They will do it.

0:52:11.719 --> 0:52:14.000
<v Speaker 1>They will fucking do it. Oh, they'll do it.

0:52:14.880 --> 0:52:16.800
<v Speaker 2>They'll fucking do it through influence.

0:52:16.800 --> 0:52:19.640
<v Speaker 1>You're saying, hands down, because if they needed to take

0:52:19.719 --> 0:52:22.520
<v Speaker 1>Dick to get a million followers and to make two

0:52:22.640 --> 0:52:25.719
<v Speaker 1>hundred thousand to be famous, they have a man behind Well.

0:52:25.719 --> 0:52:29.200
<v Speaker 2>That also shows also where this country is at morel

0:52:29.280 --> 0:52:32.000
<v Speaker 2>you know, morality wise as well. It's just kind of

0:52:32.080 --> 0:52:34.719
<v Speaker 2>like it's kind of gone to ship where people are

0:52:34.840 --> 0:52:38.640
<v Speaker 2>so hard pressed to want to fit in and you know,

0:52:38.840 --> 0:52:41.400
<v Speaker 2>live this so called the American dream, which.

0:52:41.640 --> 0:52:43.520
<v Speaker 1>I don't even know if this is American dream no more.

0:52:43.560 --> 0:52:45.560
<v Speaker 1>This shit is way past that. That was simple. That

0:52:45.680 --> 0:52:48.000
<v Speaker 1>was just having a house and taking care of your family. Yeah,

0:52:49.560 --> 0:52:52.720
<v Speaker 1>the door to have attention. They want people to pay attention.

0:52:52.800 --> 0:52:54.600
<v Speaker 1>They want people to be connected to them, they want

0:52:54.600 --> 0:52:56.880
<v Speaker 1>people to care about them. That is nothing to do

0:52:56.920 --> 0:52:59.960
<v Speaker 1>with the American dream. The American dream was super private

0:53:00.120 --> 0:53:04.359
<v Speaker 1>and personal. Every last person today because is about what

0:53:04.480 --> 0:53:07.040
<v Speaker 1>everybody else think. They want to all say the right

0:53:07.080 --> 0:53:10.680
<v Speaker 1>thing because they want everybody to love them. That is Unamerican.

0:53:12.080 --> 0:53:15.120
<v Speaker 1>That is the most wanting everybody to love you is

0:53:15.160 --> 0:53:19.359
<v Speaker 1>the most Unamerican thing of all American things. But it's

0:53:19.400 --> 0:53:22.200
<v Speaker 1>also because we live in a capitalist society where you're

0:53:22.239 --> 0:53:25.319
<v Speaker 1>totally judged bout what kind of paper you make it? Oh,

0:53:25.400 --> 0:53:27.319
<v Speaker 1>do you got it? Do you got it? Do we

0:53:27.400 --> 0:53:29.719
<v Speaker 1>got it? Do we got it? And that's everybody's life

0:53:29.800 --> 0:53:35.920
<v Speaker 1>lying minimal pictures. But hip hop was always special because

0:53:35.960 --> 0:53:39.719
<v Speaker 1>guess what, because it wasn't about having it. It was

0:53:39.760 --> 0:53:44.000
<v Speaker 1>about making do and making that beat a shit. It

0:53:44.080 --> 0:53:46.680
<v Speaker 1>was about making do and making that beat a shit.

0:53:47.120 --> 0:53:49.399
<v Speaker 1>That's what hip hop was about, and that's what made

0:53:49.400 --> 0:53:51.040
<v Speaker 1>it special. And that's what I was telling Traves. It

0:53:51.080 --> 0:53:54.240
<v Speaker 1>wasn't about getting no rare item. It was about nigga

0:53:54.520 --> 0:53:57.160
<v Speaker 1>taking whatever you got and flexing that shit like that

0:53:57.160 --> 0:53:58.120
<v Speaker 1>shit is the shit.

0:53:58.600 --> 0:54:04.239
<v Speaker 3>So be the next or the hot Mexican rapper is

0:54:04.880 --> 0:54:11.200
<v Speaker 3>embracing all the struggles of your culture and community and

0:54:11.320 --> 0:54:12.200
<v Speaker 3>building off of that.

0:54:12.520 --> 0:54:17.560
<v Speaker 1>I would agree and only that this was a big as.

0:54:20.000 --> 0:54:25.640
<v Speaker 3>Sending the water bugs this way.

0:54:27.680 --> 0:54:30.520
<v Speaker 2>Oh okay, I know what was going on. I was like,

0:54:30.560 --> 0:54:31.360
<v Speaker 2>what is he doing?

0:54:31.880 --> 0:54:35.320
<v Speaker 3>And that's what so like jazz, you've been like what

0:54:35.440 --> 0:54:37.719
<v Speaker 3>we're what ge is working on right now?

0:54:37.719 --> 0:54:39.120
<v Speaker 1>With you?

0:54:38.880 --> 0:54:45.160
<v Speaker 3>You you're tapping into less of the East coast rather

0:54:45.200 --> 0:54:47.520
<v Speaker 3>like you said before, you were the sun and the

0:54:47.520 --> 0:54:49.120
<v Speaker 3>moon and the stars and generators.

0:54:51.000 --> 0:54:53.000
<v Speaker 1>This nigga had a song about Obama.

0:54:54.040 --> 0:54:56.759
<v Speaker 2>Said I have it so it's on social fucking all

0:54:56.920 --> 0:54:57.720
<v Speaker 2>listening Platinum.

0:54:57.719 --> 0:54:58.680
<v Speaker 1>That was our first song we did.

0:54:58.880 --> 0:55:01.440
<v Speaker 2>I'm like, please chirk it out. It's called Yes We Can.

0:55:01.640 --> 0:55:05.880
<v Speaker 1>I was like, are you making a song about.

0:55:05.360 --> 0:55:11.080
<v Speaker 2>Uh, Yes we can? Alcatraz featuring g Malone Glasses Malone.

0:55:11.120 --> 0:55:14.160
<v Speaker 1>Then plug that shit, ye and you bring it up.

0:55:14.200 --> 0:55:16.000
<v Speaker 2>I'm gonna talk about it. It's still a record. It

0:55:16.080 --> 0:55:17.280
<v Speaker 2>was something that I did.

0:55:17.719 --> 0:55:20.080
<v Speaker 1>Like, you're a Mexican man making a song about Obama.

0:55:20.080 --> 0:55:22.160
<v Speaker 1>He's like lasting Obama represents hope.

0:55:22.400 --> 0:55:24.680
<v Speaker 2>My thing was was I always felt that I was

0:55:24.760 --> 0:55:32.120
<v Speaker 2>representation of Mexicans that actually, you know, showed his love

0:55:32.280 --> 0:55:36.200
<v Speaker 2>for the people that he fucks with and the people

0:55:36.200 --> 0:55:39.240
<v Speaker 2>that fucked with him. So I fucked with black people.

0:55:39.280 --> 0:55:41.680
<v Speaker 2>I always have. You know, these are things I've always ran.

0:55:41.800 --> 0:55:43.600
<v Speaker 1>Just give us a free taco, Nigga.

0:55:43.480 --> 0:55:45.759
<v Speaker 2>That's cool. I mean, that's raciust but you know, but

0:55:46.520 --> 0:55:47.880
<v Speaker 2>so I would do it music.

0:55:47.920 --> 0:55:49.200
<v Speaker 1>So he don't get what I'm saying.

0:55:49.520 --> 0:55:51.680
<v Speaker 2>No, I get you, give you a free taco. I

0:55:51.719 --> 0:55:54.319
<v Speaker 2>get it. That's what I'm trying to do. So me

0:55:54.360 --> 0:55:56.600
<v Speaker 2>and him had a whole nother project that we had

0:55:56.640 --> 0:55:59.120
<v Speaker 2>worked on. Some stuff happened and they broke into his

0:55:59.239 --> 0:56:02.840
<v Speaker 2>car and some in my gay and they fucking they

0:56:02.920 --> 0:56:07.359
<v Speaker 2>stole like three hours worth of his shit. Okay, so

0:56:07.520 --> 0:56:10.840
<v Speaker 2>we lost that. So in the midst of that, you know, shit,

0:56:11.320 --> 0:56:14.080
<v Speaker 2>he moved. We weren't living as close, so you know,

0:56:14.160 --> 0:56:16.120
<v Speaker 2>I kind of like, kind of through the last couple

0:56:16.160 --> 0:56:17.719
<v Speaker 2>of years, I kind of been fighting with whether I

0:56:17.760 --> 0:56:20.719
<v Speaker 2>wanted to keep going doing this shit. So recently, over

0:56:20.719 --> 0:56:22.720
<v Speaker 2>the last couple of months, me and Lune got together

0:56:23.080 --> 0:56:24.640
<v Speaker 2>and it wasn't that I don't want to do with Gee.

0:56:24.800 --> 0:56:26.960
<v Speaker 2>I said, I know what he's saying, let me try

0:56:26.960 --> 0:56:28.960
<v Speaker 2>to figure this shit out, and I'm just gonna start

0:56:29.000 --> 0:56:32.120
<v Speaker 2>showing him what I'm doing. So now that I'm showing him,

0:56:32.200 --> 0:56:34.239
<v Speaker 2>he's like, you got it. You got it. He's like,

0:56:34.280 --> 0:56:36.319
<v Speaker 2>but we got to work on the delivery of the

0:56:36.440 --> 0:56:38.719
<v Speaker 2>rapping of it, because you know.

0:56:39.160 --> 0:56:43.040
<v Speaker 1>You're still trying to include hip hop mentality of he's

0:56:43.080 --> 0:56:49.759
<v Speaker 1>compromising what it is again him and means cannot understand

0:56:49.840 --> 0:56:54.000
<v Speaker 1>that hip hop as much as his birth in the Bronx,

0:56:54.880 --> 0:56:58.680
<v Speaker 1>it is not all New York. It is not anything

0:56:58.800 --> 0:57:02.719
<v Speaker 1>New York. When you from somewhere else, it's nothing to

0:57:02.800 --> 0:57:06.320
<v Speaker 1>do with New York outside of understanding that the first

0:57:06.320 --> 0:57:08.920
<v Speaker 1>place it was executed was in New York. That's the

0:57:08.960 --> 0:57:12.040
<v Speaker 1>only thing you need to take. Outside of that, you

0:57:12.120 --> 0:57:15.399
<v Speaker 1>take simple foundations and ideas, like I'm telling him, if

0:57:15.400 --> 0:57:18.000
<v Speaker 1>I'm playing him blowjob Betty and blow job Betty come

0:57:18.080 --> 0:57:20.680
<v Speaker 1>four hours away from him. This is before most of

0:57:20.720 --> 0:57:24.000
<v Speaker 1>all the records you were praise. Why you don't know this,

0:57:24.000 --> 0:57:28.280
<v Speaker 1>this is hip hop. No, it don't sound like the Bronx. No,

0:57:28.400 --> 0:57:30.960
<v Speaker 1>it don't sound like Brooklyn. No, it don't sound like Queens.

0:57:30.960 --> 0:57:33.160
<v Speaker 1>Know it, don't sound like Staton Know it don't sound

0:57:33.240 --> 0:57:40.440
<v Speaker 1>like motherfucking Harlem. It sounded like fucking Oakland. You don't

0:57:40.480 --> 0:57:44.600
<v Speaker 1>gotta hip hop is not like you don't mix Chicano

0:57:44.640 --> 0:57:49.600
<v Speaker 1>on hip hop. Being Chicano is hip hop. Here. Being

0:57:49.640 --> 0:57:53.880
<v Speaker 1>a cholo is being hip hop. Here. Being a crip

0:57:54.560 --> 0:57:57.840
<v Speaker 1>like Snoop is being hip hop. Here, Being a skater

0:57:58.320 --> 0:58:03.480
<v Speaker 1>like Tyler the Creator is pop here. You don't need

0:58:03.520 --> 0:58:05.840
<v Speaker 1>to add nothing else. You don't need to add no

0:58:06.000 --> 0:58:08.440
<v Speaker 1>flavors from out the New York cabinet to make it work.

0:58:09.080 --> 0:58:11.640
<v Speaker 1>All you gotta do is find the breaks that come

0:58:11.680 --> 0:58:14.640
<v Speaker 1>out of your mama cabinet, and you take them breaks,

0:58:15.160 --> 0:58:17.400
<v Speaker 1>and you cook that shit up outside of your house

0:58:17.640 --> 0:58:19.520
<v Speaker 1>and watch niggas come by that shit to eat.

0:58:20.040 --> 0:58:22.120
<v Speaker 2>So and for all you dudes that are trying to

0:58:22.120 --> 0:58:26.440
<v Speaker 2>figure out what what I'm struggling with, and you know,

0:58:27.120 --> 0:58:31.760
<v Speaker 2>and I'll put this out there, it's not just you know,

0:58:32.160 --> 0:58:32.520
<v Speaker 2>trying to.

0:58:32.440 --> 0:58:35.680
<v Speaker 1>Figure out what you're struggling with. Huh, nobody figure out

0:58:35.680 --> 0:58:36.760
<v Speaker 1>what you're struggling with. No.

0:58:36.800 --> 0:58:39.680
<v Speaker 2>I'm trying to say to if anyone listening that maybe

0:58:39.800 --> 0:58:43.320
<v Speaker 2>can relate to what I'm saying right now. The struggle

0:58:43.360 --> 0:58:46.680
<v Speaker 2>has been that if when you say Okay, you know,

0:58:46.760 --> 0:58:49.200
<v Speaker 2>don't sound like New York. You can't sound like New York,

0:58:49.280 --> 0:58:51.440
<v Speaker 2>or you can't wrap that way right. So then you

0:58:51.520 --> 0:58:55.000
<v Speaker 2>listen to this music and sonically you know where I'm

0:58:55.040 --> 0:58:59.640
<v Speaker 2>going with it, so lyrically now trying to make it

0:58:59.680 --> 0:59:02.120
<v Speaker 2>sound like what it's supposed to. It's a little bit

0:59:02.160 --> 0:59:06.400
<v Speaker 2>difficult because again the edge that say it, Little Rob

0:59:06.520 --> 0:59:09.960
<v Speaker 2>has is that's really how Little Rob talks. So at

0:59:09.960 --> 0:59:12.320
<v Speaker 2>that point, now when I'm doing English and Spanish, I'm

0:59:12.360 --> 0:59:15.280
<v Speaker 2>trying to I'm doing the Spanish, but I'm trying to

0:59:15.320 --> 0:59:17.400
<v Speaker 2>make it rock to where it's like, Okay, I don't

0:59:17.440 --> 0:59:19.680
<v Speaker 2>want it to sound like I'm trying to stop rapping

0:59:20.000 --> 0:59:21.680
<v Speaker 2>how I was rapping ten years ago.

0:59:21.720 --> 0:59:23.760
<v Speaker 1>You was trying to stop rapping like an East Coast nigga.

0:59:23.800 --> 0:59:26.200
<v Speaker 2>Sure, you know, and I've been trying to do that

0:59:26.400 --> 0:59:29.400
<v Speaker 2>for a while. But again, sometimes you have to hear it.

0:59:29.480 --> 0:59:32.400
<v Speaker 2>We have this conversation all the time that it's easier

0:59:32.440 --> 0:59:32.680
<v Speaker 2>to hear.

0:59:32.720 --> 0:59:37.280
<v Speaker 1>Where do I keep telling him stop rapping? Talk because

0:59:37.320 --> 0:59:40.040
<v Speaker 1>you don't talk like an East Coast nigga. Rap is

0:59:40.080 --> 0:59:44.520
<v Speaker 1>about talking, right, A lot of it. It's not really difficult.

0:59:44.520 --> 0:59:46.880
<v Speaker 1>You're just holding on to things that you know were

0:59:46.920 --> 0:59:49.960
<v Speaker 1>successful in things that you love. It's not really hard

0:59:50.000 --> 0:59:52.160
<v Speaker 1>for you. Yeah, it took me time to break it

0:59:52.200 --> 0:59:56.000
<v Speaker 1>on you. Pause. Uh the first time we was doing

0:59:56.040 --> 0:59:58.600
<v Speaker 1>it right to break you out of it rather forgive

0:59:58.640 --> 1:00:01.120
<v Speaker 1>me break you out of it. It took time, right,

1:00:01.640 --> 1:00:05.520
<v Speaker 1>But that's because you're emulating. Hip hop for sure is

1:00:05.560 --> 1:00:10.880
<v Speaker 1>not about emulating. It's very original, even in the closest

1:00:10.880 --> 1:00:14.760
<v Speaker 1>places like Warren didn't sound like Dog, Nate didn't sound

1:00:14.840 --> 1:00:19.320
<v Speaker 1>like Warren, trade E don't sound like Nate, Dazz don't

1:00:19.360 --> 1:00:22.360
<v Speaker 1>sound like trade E. So y'all could be in the

1:00:22.400 --> 1:00:27.040
<v Speaker 1>same community. But it's how you talk, and once you understand,

1:00:27.120 --> 1:00:30.080
<v Speaker 1>you build rap on how you talk. That's what takes

1:00:30.080 --> 1:00:32.920
<v Speaker 1>it to the next level. That was Dre's thing. Talk

1:00:33.840 --> 1:00:35.960
<v Speaker 1>ain popping out the side of your mouth, talk like

1:00:36.000 --> 1:00:38.000
<v Speaker 1>you talking talk that talk.

1:00:40.840 --> 1:00:46.720
<v Speaker 2>So I've actually grown a lot closer because before even

1:00:46.800 --> 1:00:50.720
<v Speaker 2>the lingo and the terminology I was using was so

1:00:51.000 --> 1:00:54.560
<v Speaker 2>far off because I was emulating something. Yeah, the records

1:00:54.680 --> 1:00:58.000
<v Speaker 2>now today with what you got to see where he's coaching,

1:00:58.400 --> 1:01:00.880
<v Speaker 2>you know, coaching me on in terms of to say

1:01:01.000 --> 1:01:04.520
<v Speaker 2>a certain thing. But the lyrics and the rhymes are there.

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<v Speaker 2>Now like what I'm what I'm talking about, even if

1:01:07.600 --> 1:01:09.520
<v Speaker 2>you don't agree with the topics, say of the song,

1:01:11.480 --> 1:01:14.440
<v Speaker 2>I'm I'm in the ballpark now of okay, this is

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<v Speaker 2>this is how it's, this is the this is the

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<v Speaker 2>lingo of what I'm supposed to be using for this

1:01:19.760 --> 1:01:22.400
<v Speaker 2>kind of music. So now I just have to really

1:01:22.440 --> 1:01:25.960
<v Speaker 2>perfect how I'm saying it. That's that's kind of gonna

1:01:25.960 --> 1:01:27.200
<v Speaker 2>be my last step right now.

1:01:27.320 --> 1:01:33.600
<v Speaker 3>Still you as opposed to creating a new persona like

1:01:33.680 --> 1:01:36.280
<v Speaker 3>he's saying, like you're good.

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<v Speaker 1>Enough, you know what's funny?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, but when I hear that music, and I don't

1:01:40.320 --> 1:01:42.959
<v Speaker 2>mean to cut you off, but when I hear that music, see,

1:01:42.960 --> 1:01:45.840
<v Speaker 2>that's the problem. When I hear that music, automatically, I

1:01:45.920 --> 1:01:49.000
<v Speaker 2>start thinking of the guys who have actually came before

1:01:49.600 --> 1:01:53.880
<v Speaker 2>doing that music, which no Little Rob, which is night Owl,

1:01:54.000 --> 1:01:58.200
<v Speaker 2>which is Alt, which is Frost, which is.

1:01:58.000 --> 1:02:00.240
<v Speaker 1>Which I think if you go study those guys, it's

1:02:00.240 --> 1:02:03.720
<v Speaker 1>because you're still not studying them. Right, it works for you,

1:02:04.000 --> 1:02:07.600
<v Speaker 1>But have you ever thought to yourself the reason why

1:02:07.960 --> 1:02:10.880
<v Speaker 1>Mexican people don't work with the other people's because they're

1:02:10.920 --> 1:02:14.520
<v Speaker 1>not funky. That's not their natural nature. Funk don't get

1:02:14.520 --> 1:02:17.480
<v Speaker 1>me wrong. They have some funk, but much more the

1:02:17.560 --> 1:02:20.600
<v Speaker 1>music is soulful or jazzy like. And that's why if

1:02:20.640 --> 1:02:22.919
<v Speaker 1>you look at all of the stuff, it's R and B, right,

1:02:23.360 --> 1:02:25.920
<v Speaker 1>Rob is a ton of R and B. Right, Rob's

1:02:25.960 --> 1:02:29.080
<v Speaker 1>a ton of R and B and D you know

1:02:29.120 --> 1:02:31.600
<v Speaker 1>what I mean. Right, And you look at somebody like

1:02:31.600 --> 1:02:35.440
<v Speaker 1>like Cypress Hills, they're they're much more like pop or classical,

1:02:35.480 --> 1:02:38.000
<v Speaker 1>you know what I mean, some level of rock. If

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<v Speaker 1>you look at all the successful acts, because it's not

1:02:41.360 --> 1:02:44.360
<v Speaker 1>funk is more than just music. It's a get down.

1:02:44.440 --> 1:02:46.520
<v Speaker 1>It's a I used to tell means this. I'm like, bro,

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<v Speaker 1>you're not a funky person, like, you're not a party person,

1:02:52.400 --> 1:02:57.960
<v Speaker 1>wild in there loose like you know, your compact, your discipline,

1:02:57.960 --> 1:03:01.480
<v Speaker 1>your your structured funk is all about being loose. And

1:03:01.840 --> 1:03:04.000
<v Speaker 1>this is the problem when you look at music as

1:03:04.080 --> 1:03:08.920
<v Speaker 1>just music and not really you know, expressions of lifestyle

1:03:09.000 --> 1:03:11.800
<v Speaker 1>and culture and get down. Like look at how Parliament dressed.

1:03:11.840 --> 1:03:16.320
<v Speaker 1>This is not no joke. They created a world mothership connection.

1:03:16.400 --> 1:03:19.240
<v Speaker 1>The song I was playing for you earlier, right, that

1:03:19.360 --> 1:03:22.360
<v Speaker 1>Doctor Dre sample to make let me ride by Parliament? Right,

1:03:22.760 --> 1:03:25.520
<v Speaker 1>It's about getting out of here on a fucking spaceship,

1:03:26.720 --> 1:03:33.320
<v Speaker 1>probably about getting high. The song is swing down, Sweet Chariot,

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<v Speaker 1>stop and let They're talking to a fucking spaceship. You

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<v Speaker 1>know it's not no punk right there. I don't know.

1:03:43.440 --> 1:03:45.600
<v Speaker 1>It could be crack a thousand thing, but I'm telling

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<v Speaker 1>you that Cherry stop the real the chariot, swing down,

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<v Speaker 1>sweet Chariot, and stop, let me ride. It's about a

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<v Speaker 1>fucking spaceship. Like so again, it's when you keep It's

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<v Speaker 1>the hardest part about this shit for people is when

1:04:01.760 --> 1:04:04.840
<v Speaker 1>you don't understand that this is way more than fucking music.

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<v Speaker 1>This ain't just rap, This ain't just fucking music. This

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<v Speaker 1>is really life for people. So it's super important to

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<v Speaker 1>understand that this is life. When you get that part,

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<v Speaker 1>you straight, you stop playing with everything. You stop thinking

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<v Speaker 1>everything could be emulated. You can play with everything. You

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<v Speaker 1>gotta really take it serious.

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<v Speaker 3>So the answer maybe a partial of you said about

1:04:27.040 --> 1:04:30.600
<v Speaker 3>King Little G. You said, he plays the unchettas under this,

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<v Speaker 3>he figured to stop writing the letter to Dre and

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<v Speaker 3>start pushing my Mexican culture more. And like G said,

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<v Speaker 3>and that's why he's.

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<v Speaker 1>And if King Little G is not where like if

1:04:42.840 --> 1:04:44.440
<v Speaker 1>you said where King Little G is now with y G.

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<v Speaker 1>You gotta make a record. That's the difference. You still

1:04:48.080 --> 1:04:52.040
<v Speaker 1>gotta make a record. Still gotta make a record. Bads

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<v Speaker 1>had a lot of them records. You gotta make a record.

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<v Speaker 2>I think we also live in a time where he's

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<v Speaker 2>able to take his brand and.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't give a fuck you asking me why he's

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<v Speaker 1>not where certain people is attcha. Can you make a living?

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<v Speaker 1>This is where you some of the hormies fight. Y'all

1:05:07.360 --> 1:05:09.560
<v Speaker 1>keep trying to get this shit and be like, well,

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<v Speaker 1>I want to make a middle class job so I

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<v Speaker 1>could do what I love and get paid. That's not

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<v Speaker 1>how this shit work. This don't work that way. This

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<v Speaker 1>ain't or I want to get in and make me

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<v Speaker 1>a middle class job and I'll be able to do

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<v Speaker 1>music because I love it. Man, if you ain't in

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<v Speaker 1>this motherfucker for the juggler, you won't get to the

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<v Speaker 1>middle class. Trust me, LEGI, because King Legit the not

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<v Speaker 1>getting this motherfucker to just work and make a living

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<v Speaker 1>to do what he loves. He gotten this motherfucker to

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<v Speaker 1>do some damage. So you getting this motherfucker to do

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<v Speaker 1>some damage, feel me? Then you end up somewhere where

1:05:40.000 --> 1:05:43.160
<v Speaker 1>you can be okay, but you can't get this motherfucker

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<v Speaker 1>trying to make a middle class career out of something

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<v Speaker 1>that's exceptional. This is real, This ain't no.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh.

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<v Speaker 1>People just love me and they want to see me rap,

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<v Speaker 1>so they gonna pay it. And I get paid to

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<v Speaker 1>rap because I like rapping and they like me. Nigga,

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<v Speaker 1>this shit you talking about people life. They live a

1:05:58.040 --> 1:06:01.760
<v Speaker 1>life to this shit. If you don't get that, you

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<v Speaker 1>know what I mean. This is where we have a

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<v Speaker 1>you know, this is where you fall short. You can't

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<v Speaker 1>come in the league like, well, I want to be

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<v Speaker 1>like the twentieth best point guard.

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<v Speaker 2>Well that's what I'll say. I think Little G is

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<v Speaker 2>very influential. I think I've definitely came across a lot

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<v Speaker 2>more young Mexican artists that are that I know want

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<v Speaker 2>they want to be like him. Yeah, but again that's

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<v Speaker 2>a good thing.

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<v Speaker 1>It's not about it if it's bad or good. Right, Listen,

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<v Speaker 1>at the end of the day, an album you want

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<v Speaker 1>to make. First off, if you ain't in this motherfucker

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<v Speaker 1>to make the biggest record in the world and you

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<v Speaker 1>want to and you get a record deal, problem one.

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<v Speaker 1>Problem one. If you get a record deal, and your

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<v Speaker 1>goal ain't to make the biggest record ever. Problem one

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<v Speaker 1>that should be if you get a record deal, if

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<v Speaker 1>you get a deal with a record company, you should

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<v Speaker 1>be aspiring to make a record bigger than Thriller. That way,

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<v Speaker 1>if you make nothing, they go thirty nine on the charts,

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<v Speaker 1>you can look like, well, I accomplished this. But if

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<v Speaker 1>you ain't in this motherfucker to make the biggest record

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<v Speaker 1>with a record deal, you're doing it wrong. Two, if

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<v Speaker 1>you ain't getting this motherfucker to represent it, put on. Quit.

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<v Speaker 1>Hip Hop is all about representing and putting on. That's

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<v Speaker 1>what it's about. There's no confusion for sure, because that's

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<v Speaker 1>what the cornerstone and being the street urban nigga is about.

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<v Speaker 1>It's putting on. You gotta represent and put on. If

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<v Speaker 1>you ain't trying to represent your peoples or whatever people

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<v Speaker 1>you speak for, quit, Those are the two cornerstones.

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<v Speaker 2>And I'm gonna say that's another thing too right now

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<v Speaker 2>that he said that, And that's I think a big

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<v Speaker 2>problem that maybe a lot of artists probably run into,

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<v Speaker 2>especially some of the ones we've talked about. We won't

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<v Speaker 2>mention names, but people who have got who do have

1:07:49.520 --> 1:07:52.040
<v Speaker 2>fan bases, but yet fucking cry about shit?

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<v Speaker 1>Is that?

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<v Speaker 2>A lot of times what I noticed is a Mexican

1:07:57.320 --> 1:08:02.000
<v Speaker 2>artist will get to a certain level, not understand why,

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<v Speaker 2>you know why they're only at a certain level on

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<v Speaker 2>they plateau, and it's because they're not really representing the people.

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<v Speaker 2>But then they will start to represent being Mexican out

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<v Speaker 2>of convenience, so then it's not authentic.

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<v Speaker 1>Sure, they could be like, oh, they not fuck with

1:08:19.640 --> 1:08:21.960
<v Speaker 1>me because I'm asking, you know, but I got y'all, no,

1:08:22.640 --> 1:08:26.640
<v Speaker 1>if you ain't trying to put on, quit if that

1:08:26.720 --> 1:08:29.600
<v Speaker 1>ain't your goal, Trust me. The biggest niggas in the

1:08:29.600 --> 1:08:32.200
<v Speaker 1>world was trying to put on. When Jez he has

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<v Speaker 1>a song called I put On, you know what I'm saying.

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<v Speaker 1>Our cast was told you the South got something to say.

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<v Speaker 1>Ghetto boys was talking at Texas shit. Jay Z was like, Nigga,

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<v Speaker 1>I'll represent the hopes and dream of drug dealers in

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<v Speaker 1>New York and everywhere. Snoop is still a crypt put on.

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<v Speaker 1>If you in hip hop and you trying to do

1:08:51.520 --> 1:08:54.240
<v Speaker 1>this thing, put on and you ain't gonna put on,

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<v Speaker 1>sit the bench. I don't give a fuck if you

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<v Speaker 1>If you want a middle class job, my nigga, go

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<v Speaker 1>to school, go get a trade, don't get up in

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<v Speaker 1>this shit plan. If you get a record deal, want

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<v Speaker 1>to make the biggest record possible. But those is what

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<v Speaker 1>it's about. Records and hip hop, right. Hip hop is

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<v Speaker 1>when you just get in you just want to represents

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<v Speaker 1>what That's what motivated me. People ask me what motivated

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<v Speaker 1>me to make twopoc Musk. I wanted to put on

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<v Speaker 1>for the Los Angeles street urban coach. I want to

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<v Speaker 1>tell our story. I wanted niggas to hear our perspective. Look,

1:09:28.120 --> 1:09:30.800
<v Speaker 1>we all know pop's perspective, pock is fucking pop, but

1:09:30.880 --> 1:09:33.880
<v Speaker 1>I wanted them to hear our perspective, the La street

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<v Speaker 1>nigga and our trials and tribulation that we have to

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<v Speaker 1>overcome in the face of all adversity. That's why it's

1:09:40.600 --> 1:09:42.600
<v Speaker 1>a brick in the pillar that hip hop built. That

1:09:42.840 --> 1:09:46.559
<v Speaker 1>song forever will be in the mind of niggas who

1:09:46.600 --> 1:09:48.880
<v Speaker 1>fuck with hip hop. They'll be talking about that bitch

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<v Speaker 1>for twenty or thirty years. They'll be waiting for somebody

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<v Speaker 1>to have enough heart to make another kind of record

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<v Speaker 1>like that. That's what this shit is about. Putting the

1:09:58.760 --> 1:10:03.200
<v Speaker 1>fuck on putting on you fucking up. That's what you

1:10:03.200 --> 1:10:06.679
<v Speaker 1>gotta get. It ain't about no rap, no fucking music.

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<v Speaker 1>This shit is about the street, urban culture. You get

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<v Speaker 1>a record deal, that's about the record.

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<v Speaker 2>That's it.

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<v Speaker 1>Whoever represents they people the best. It's gonna be the

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<v Speaker 1>most successful as far as hip hop goes. Now, Drake

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<v Speaker 1>is different. Drake is a pop artist. All he gotta

1:10:23.520 --> 1:10:26.360
<v Speaker 1>do is stay popular and make pop records. He don't

1:10:26.400 --> 1:10:31.000
<v Speaker 1>gotta represent nobody but himself. That's it. He can represent

1:10:31.040 --> 1:10:33.439
<v Speaker 1>different niggas on different albums. I represent the New York

1:10:33.479 --> 1:10:37.360
<v Speaker 1>niggas this week. This started from the bottom this week.

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<v Speaker 1>On this album, I'm representing the West Coast. I'ma have

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<v Speaker 1>a low I'm have a low Rider under the Bay Bridge.

1:10:45.040 --> 1:10:48.000
<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna have a fucking Los Angeles, Southern California car

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<v Speaker 1>under the Bay Bridge because I can't separate the two.

1:10:50.560 --> 1:10:53.280
<v Speaker 1>So I'm gonna compact them together like a pop artist

1:10:53.320 --> 1:10:55.360
<v Speaker 1>because I don't get it. And this is the I'm

1:10:55.400 --> 1:10:57.519
<v Speaker 1>putting on for the West Coast. Then I'm gonna put

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<v Speaker 1>it on for Houston. I'ma go down there and on

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<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna go down to the Memphis I'm gonna put it.

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<v Speaker 1>He can go anywhere. That's what he does. You don't

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<v Speaker 1>have the luxury because you bear the burden of street

1:11:07.439 --> 1:11:10.120
<v Speaker 1>urban culture. If you even tried to think you're gonna

1:11:10.160 --> 1:11:12.040
<v Speaker 1>represent niggas, you're gonna have a problem.

1:11:12.240 --> 1:11:14.160
<v Speaker 3>I'm gonna put on a raptor's jersey and take it

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<v Speaker 3>back to Ontario.

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<v Speaker 1>Now he's as a Canadian, right, so again with as

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<v Speaker 1>ber mitzvah exactly. That's that's what the point of this

1:11:24.840 --> 1:11:27.519
<v Speaker 1>shit is. That's what hip hop is all about. You

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<v Speaker 1>can't mix cholo or Chicano and hip hop because Chicano

1:11:31.920 --> 1:11:35.559
<v Speaker 1>and cholo is hip hop. It is street urban culture,

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<v Speaker 1>complete top to bottom, a whole motherfucking culture, and the

1:11:38.320 --> 1:11:41.439
<v Speaker 1>world is intrigued by it. That's why you see movies

1:11:41.479 --> 1:11:44.600
<v Speaker 1>about it. That's why you see people want to know

1:11:44.640 --> 1:11:46.680
<v Speaker 1>what happened with Montana. They waiting on the rapper to

1:11:46.760 --> 1:11:49.840
<v Speaker 1>voice Montana the correct way. They waiting on just like

1:11:50.000 --> 1:11:55.000
<v Speaker 1>Snoop voiced Rocket and Doe Boy as a rapper, he

1:11:55.160 --> 1:11:58.599
<v Speaker 1>voiced those characters, just like jay Z voiced you know,

1:11:59.120 --> 1:12:03.040
<v Speaker 1>Nino Brown. They're waiting on somebody to voice the movies

1:12:03.320 --> 1:12:07.479
<v Speaker 1>that they know they're waiting Solo is a national thing

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<v Speaker 1>in America. Everybody in every state knows about Cholo's how

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<v Speaker 1>big it is. It's different, but every state has probably

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<v Speaker 1>seen Training Day, so they.

1:12:18.000 --> 1:12:21.040
<v Speaker 3>Also now too, Yeah China and China, Yeah in Japan.

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<v Speaker 1>So again they're waiting on somebody to voice it in

1:12:24.360 --> 1:12:29.200
<v Speaker 1>a record, to voice the culture. They're waiting on somebody

1:12:29.280 --> 1:12:33.200
<v Speaker 1>like who is the Smiley? Who's Smiley? They waiting, But

1:12:33.400 --> 1:12:36.360
<v Speaker 1>you gotta make the right fucking record so a record

1:12:36.360 --> 1:12:39.240
<v Speaker 1>company can give you a chance to take that around

1:12:39.240 --> 1:12:41.880
<v Speaker 1>the rest of the world. Snoop, just being a crypt

1:12:41.960 --> 1:12:44.599
<v Speaker 1>would have been nothing without g thing.

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<v Speaker 2>But all these kids, you try to tell them that. Again,

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<v Speaker 2>what I'm saying, I.

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<v Speaker 1>Don't care what an ignorant, dumb ass, fucking kid thing.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't care.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, okay, but I'm saying, so when you're.

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<v Speaker 1>Telling me what a motherfucker who don't know thinks, means

1:12:57.560 --> 1:13:00.760
<v Speaker 1>nothing to me. Imagine you tell your daughter trying to

1:13:00.760 --> 1:13:03.559
<v Speaker 1>tell you something about cars, Daddy, would I'm telling you

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<v Speaker 1>you don't have to put eighty seven. You could mix

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<v Speaker 1>water with your gas. I don't can you you gonna,

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<v Speaker 1>oh you know what, let me mix water my guess

1:13:10.479 --> 1:13:12.680
<v Speaker 1>they don't know. They don't fucking know.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I'm saying that for the generation to come though.

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<v Speaker 2>If they think that that is something that is outdated,

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<v Speaker 2>even if it's someone older.

1:13:21.200 --> 1:13:24.799
<v Speaker 1>I don't care what they think. You're making a point

1:13:24.840 --> 1:13:28.920
<v Speaker 1>right now, and this is the problem. Culture doesn't outdate.

1:13:30.080 --> 1:13:33.519
<v Speaker 1>Culture is permanent. It's the reason why there ain't no

1:13:33.600 --> 1:13:35.679
<v Speaker 1>more slaves in America? Right for sure? Do we agree

1:13:35.720 --> 1:13:36.719
<v Speaker 1>that there's no more slaves?

1:13:37.080 --> 1:13:38.320
<v Speaker 2>I don't know if that's true.

1:13:38.840 --> 1:13:40.880
<v Speaker 1>Are there a black slave plant? Are they plantations where

1:13:40.920 --> 1:13:44.120
<v Speaker 1>niggas work jazz? This niggas tripping jazz? Do you know

1:13:44.120 --> 1:13:49.439
<v Speaker 1>if any plantation where niggas is picking cotton in America? Today? No? No?

1:13:50.400 --> 1:13:54.920
<v Speaker 1>Is there still soul full fucking restaurants around the fucking country.

1:13:55.200 --> 1:13:59.640
<v Speaker 1>Is It's still plenty of people craving slave fool around.

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<v Speaker 1>You will never fucking change. So I'm not listening to

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<v Speaker 1>no kid that think you need to mix water with

1:14:05.360 --> 1:14:08.760
<v Speaker 1>gas to get better gas mintage. I don't fucking care

1:14:08.840 --> 1:14:11.479
<v Speaker 1>what they think. I'm telling them. I know. That's why

1:14:11.520 --> 1:14:14.519
<v Speaker 1>I speak with this authority. I have paid years my

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<v Speaker 1>youth to know what I know. If you want to

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<v Speaker 1>do it, this is it. You can't point no winners

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<v Speaker 1>to me. You could point a nigga that's doing middle class,

1:14:21.160 --> 1:14:23.000
<v Speaker 1>but you can't point to me the next young thug

1:14:23.080 --> 1:14:25.799
<v Speaker 1>doing it. You can't point to me the next Kendrick

1:14:25.880 --> 1:14:28.040
<v Speaker 1>doing it. You know why Kendrick worked because he's on

1:14:28.120 --> 1:14:30.080
<v Speaker 1>his fucking album Couple with a T shirt. Dickie's in

1:14:30.120 --> 1:14:30.920
<v Speaker 1>a fucking gun.

1:14:31.520 --> 1:14:41.640
<v Speaker 2>It's bottom line. The young Mexican artist that understands.

1:14:40.439 --> 1:14:45.559
<v Speaker 1>Mexican that gotta put on. If they understand that and

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<v Speaker 1>then they have somebody who know how to make records,

1:14:47.400 --> 1:14:51.400
<v Speaker 1>they'll win. They'll have an open lane that nobody's ever had.

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<v Speaker 1>And smoke.

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<v Speaker 3>Sat was doing a podcast the other day and that

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<v Speaker 3>times out and he said, well you said, he said,

1:14:57.920 --> 1:15:01.360
<v Speaker 3>point is is better fucking music. That's it.

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<v Speaker 1>I had the same conversation with Criminal on his podcast.

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<v Speaker 1>He was like, gee, man, all this crazy shit going on.

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<v Speaker 1>I just did a Criminal podcast two weeks ago. She said, man, gee,

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<v Speaker 1>but what do you think man, Like, do you think

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<v Speaker 1>it's because our cultures is out? Dave blah blah blah.

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<v Speaker 1>You know what's the problem, man? You know it was

1:15:15.640 --> 1:15:18.960
<v Speaker 1>just said so and so for Sit, you gotta get better.

1:15:21.200 --> 1:15:23.840
<v Speaker 1>You gotta get better. It's gonna be tough because they've

1:15:23.840 --> 1:15:26.799
<v Speaker 1>been talking about the West Coast for forty years. Colors

1:15:26.840 --> 1:15:28.680
<v Speaker 1>came out in the eighties, them in the eighty fivey six,

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<v Speaker 1>eighty seven, eighty eight, sometimes that's almost forty years ago.

1:15:31.520 --> 1:15:34.920
<v Speaker 1>They've been learning about La Street, urban culture, blood and

1:15:35.000 --> 1:15:40.040
<v Speaker 1>blood out American me. These movies is early nineties. Training

1:15:40.120 --> 1:15:42.320
<v Speaker 1>Day is in the nineties at this point, damn near

1:15:42.400 --> 1:15:45.000
<v Speaker 1>two thousand and some. Shit, this is how long they've

1:15:45.040 --> 1:15:49.840
<v Speaker 1>had Snoop Kid, Frost, Nwa, Easy Ice Tea since the

1:15:50.000 --> 1:15:54.120
<v Speaker 1>fucking eighties. They know, we had movies about multiple drug dealers.

1:15:54.200 --> 1:15:56.640
<v Speaker 1>We had a TV show about a drug dealer. Our

1:15:56.760 --> 1:15:59.320
<v Speaker 1>fucking street gang members that don't have nothing to do

1:15:59.360 --> 1:16:01.800
<v Speaker 1>with nothing are famous. Tooki is famous around the world.

1:16:01.800 --> 1:16:04.479
<v Speaker 1>They was trying to stop his execution in fifty fucking states,

1:16:04.800 --> 1:16:07.880
<v Speaker 1>Like this is how famous La Street urban culture. So yes,

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<v Speaker 1>you got your work cut out because they have been

1:16:11.000 --> 1:16:12.720
<v Speaker 1>a nigga from out of town might think he know

1:16:12.760 --> 1:16:15.120
<v Speaker 1>more about La than you, and you be an LA nigga,

1:16:15.120 --> 1:16:16.920
<v Speaker 1>They be like, well, I know La more than you, nigga,

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<v Speaker 1>because he listened to the music, right, So yes, your

1:16:21.080 --> 1:16:23.040
<v Speaker 1>work is cut out because at the end of the day,

1:16:23.080 --> 1:16:27.040
<v Speaker 1>because they we have been being celebrated for a long time.

1:16:27.439 --> 1:16:30.559
<v Speaker 1>We have been celebrities for a long fucking time. Ice

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<v Speaker 1>Team was a celebrity in eighty five eighty six. Short

1:16:33.880 --> 1:16:36.639
<v Speaker 1>was a celebrity in eighty five eighty six. These niggas

1:16:36.640 --> 1:16:41.559
<v Speaker 1>have been being celebrated for roughly forty years. Ice Tea.

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<v Speaker 3>That's even in the Breakdan Radio.

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<v Speaker 1>So, yes, your work is cut out. It's not gonna

1:16:46.920 --> 1:16:49.479
<v Speaker 1>be easy, but it's already a laying cross to where

1:16:49.520 --> 1:16:51.759
<v Speaker 1>you can get close enough to where if you figure

1:16:51.760 --> 1:16:54.559
<v Speaker 1>out what makes it special, you can go right through

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<v Speaker 1>the door and blow.

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<v Speaker 2>But with what you said with Criminal, would you say

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<v Speaker 2>that the expectation of most Mexican artists is always to

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<v Speaker 2>be as big as the biggest black artist? Is that

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<v Speaker 2>a mistake? Mentality?

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<v Speaker 1>The biggest Black artist is only big because they make

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<v Speaker 1>big records.

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<v Speaker 2>So but do you Okay, But what I'm saying is

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<v Speaker 2>Bash had some pretty big fucking records.

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<v Speaker 3>I believe he's big.

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<v Speaker 1>Is big?

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<v Speaker 2>I agree, That's what I'm saying. But you go ask

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<v Speaker 2>the average Mexican do they do? They do? They admire

1:17:31.520 --> 1:17:32.479
<v Speaker 2>and revere him.

1:17:32.720 --> 1:17:34.960
<v Speaker 1>But why do you why do you keep speaking on

1:17:35.080 --> 1:17:39.720
<v Speaker 1>ignorance as some kind of like reason, as if because.

1:17:39.360 --> 1:17:41.800
<v Speaker 2>Because I'm trying to get to the root of how

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<v Speaker 2>to make the What I would love to do when

1:17:44.439 --> 1:17:47.400
<v Speaker 2>you're talking about put On is to make the younger

1:17:47.439 --> 1:17:51.080
<v Speaker 2>generation understand so that we can have what we've been

1:17:51.120 --> 1:17:56.360
<v Speaker 2>asking for me to be big to be.

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<v Speaker 1>So his thing and means thing is well, the biggest

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<v Speaker 1>Mexican artist is not bigg at the biggest Black artists

1:18:05.160 --> 1:18:08.920
<v Speaker 1>because they don't got the fucking records. But guess what,

1:18:09.240 --> 1:18:13.040
<v Speaker 1>Cypress Hill had records. That's why be Real is a

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<v Speaker 1>global star and that's Cypress Hell.

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<v Speaker 3>Right.

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<v Speaker 1>So now you asking, does be Real have I don't know,

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<v Speaker 1>twenty fucking top forty songs like Doctor, like fucking jay Z.

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<v Speaker 1>Probably not, But if you put him up against an

1:18:29.280 --> 1:18:32.000
<v Speaker 1>artist that has as many top forty songs as he does,

1:18:32.320 --> 1:18:34.200
<v Speaker 1>he'll be as big as that person. Put him on

1:18:34.240 --> 1:18:38.839
<v Speaker 1>the verses, he'll be as big as that person. Because

1:18:38.880 --> 1:18:43.600
<v Speaker 1>this shit is still records. It's at the end of

1:18:43.640 --> 1:18:45.439
<v Speaker 1>the day, you can only go where the records take you.

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<v Speaker 3>There's a lot of people that can sing, some be Real,

1:18:47.800 --> 1:18:48.599
<v Speaker 3>Cypress Hill.

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<v Speaker 1>Songs around the world. They tore around the fucking world,

1:18:52.520 --> 1:18:55.719
<v Speaker 1>the country, the world, they had television shows. They are huge.

1:18:56.520 --> 1:18:59.360
<v Speaker 1>So again I'm not trying to convince people who if

1:18:59.400 --> 1:19:02.360
<v Speaker 1>you just look that success, like if I'm black, I'm successful,

1:19:02.520 --> 1:19:06.599
<v Speaker 1>that's just racist. You're you're that's what You're inherently racist

1:19:06.640 --> 1:19:08.519
<v Speaker 1>if you think jay Z is just big because he's black,

1:19:08.520 --> 1:19:10.559
<v Speaker 1>because there's a lot of niggas that ain't that's black

1:19:10.600 --> 1:19:11.760
<v Speaker 1>and hip hop that ain't big.

1:19:12.200 --> 1:19:14.240
<v Speaker 3>And that's why I was asking what's big because people

1:19:14.280 --> 1:19:16.880
<v Speaker 3>also get the perception when you people say big, that's

1:19:16.920 --> 1:19:19.120
<v Speaker 3>the first name that was jay Z. How many jay

1:19:19.160 --> 1:19:22.320
<v Speaker 3>Z's are there? It's only one jay Z and jay

1:19:22.400 --> 1:19:24.960
<v Speaker 3>Z ain't snoop And we brought up and you said,

1:19:25.000 --> 1:19:27.200
<v Speaker 3>a great woman, I always love bring on E forty

1:19:27.360 --> 1:19:30.559
<v Speaker 3>so underrated as a mother, Like how the fuck this man?

1:19:30.760 --> 1:19:33.120
<v Speaker 3>Y'all drop an album with twelve songs. His niggas drop

1:19:33.120 --> 1:19:34.520
<v Speaker 3>in two double albums.

1:19:34.479 --> 1:19:38.519
<v Speaker 1>At the same time forty and he's not big as

1:19:38.600 --> 1:19:42.040
<v Speaker 1>jay Z. That's fucking unk. Okay's big as jay Z.

1:19:42.400 --> 1:19:46.840
<v Speaker 3>And you said, seventy five percent of hip hop vocabulary

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<v Speaker 3>is E forty base even from you know.

1:19:49.920 --> 1:19:52.640
<v Speaker 1>Too Short came out in the early eighties and he

1:19:52.760 --> 1:19:58.360
<v Speaker 1>not big at dog. It don't work with just being

1:19:58.600 --> 1:20:00.920
<v Speaker 1>being black or being mess can be a Mexican hip

1:20:00.960 --> 1:20:03.600
<v Speaker 1>hop ain't a setback. What's the setback is if you

1:20:03.600 --> 1:20:06.920
<v Speaker 1>don't got the cuts, Because trust me, Eminem got cuts.

1:20:07.120 --> 1:20:09.439
<v Speaker 1>He don't got probably as many. Well, actually he do,

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<v Speaker 1>got a lot of top forty songs. That's why he

1:20:11.560 --> 1:20:15.000
<v Speaker 1>big as a lot of motherfuckers. Now we can't talk

1:20:15.040 --> 1:20:19.920
<v Speaker 1>about how big motherfucking a Yellowolf is. Yellowolf not as

1:20:19.920 --> 1:20:23.479
<v Speaker 1>big as Eminem, or as rappers, as outcasts. It don't matter.

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<v Speaker 1>This is a records business. Our brands and legacy follow records.

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<v Speaker 1>Yesterday's a little different because you could be on Instagram

1:20:31.080 --> 1:20:33.240
<v Speaker 1>and people can see your brand and they could fuck

1:20:33.240 --> 1:20:35.160
<v Speaker 1>with you. But that don't mean when you do a concert,

1:20:35.240 --> 1:20:37.559
<v Speaker 1>niggas is showing up. That's why all these niggas can't

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<v Speaker 1>get out of the festivals. That's why they keep running

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<v Speaker 1>all those adds talk about how the old actes doing

1:20:41.760 --> 1:20:44.160
<v Speaker 1>well and the young actions doing bad. Because at the

1:20:44.240 --> 1:20:46.880
<v Speaker 1>end of the day, you could only fake, thus can

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<v Speaker 1>only fake, thus can only pretend for so long. You

1:20:51.320 --> 1:20:54.080
<v Speaker 1>really gotta go do this shit. Don't you gotta do

1:20:54.200 --> 1:20:57.679
<v Speaker 1>this shit. And it's about records. Being Mexican ain't holding

1:20:57.720 --> 1:21:01.960
<v Speaker 1>nobody back in hip hop is not not having good records.

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<v Speaker 1>It's the only thing gonna hold you back because you

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<v Speaker 1>got some fucking cuts. Trust me, they jamming your shit.

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<v Speaker 1>They gonna jam your shit. But you gotta even know

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<v Speaker 1>what cuts is. And if you don't know what cuts is,

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<v Speaker 1>you think, well, I like my songs. That may not

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<v Speaker 1>be a cut. If you put on your songs, it's

1:21:16.800 --> 1:21:18.760
<v Speaker 1>gonna sut off. The fucking can't say yet if it's not,

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<v Speaker 1>it's the wrong fucking song.

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<v Speaker 3>And you're right, because I'm sure there's as many black

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<v Speaker 3>rappers that is feeling they're not making it either, just

1:21:28.560 --> 1:21:31.519
<v Speaker 3>like a Mexican rapper, but that black rapper just ain't

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<v Speaker 3>making the hits or making the song. They feel they

1:21:34.160 --> 1:21:36.960
<v Speaker 3>shit is super popping, but it's not.

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<v Speaker 2>I appreciate it. Notice I'm sitting back because I'm letting

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<v Speaker 2>y'all get off because motherfuckers need to hear that. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>because a lot of motherfuckers really feel that they're just

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<v Speaker 2>not making it because Mexicans are not accepting that's not

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<v Speaker 2>You're just not making the fucking right Mexicans.

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<v Speaker 1>We are not making Mexicans only need to be except

1:21:55.400 --> 1:21:59.800
<v Speaker 1>Mexicans only need to be accepted by Mexican people. If

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<v Speaker 1>you except about Mexican people in America, you're probably the

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<v Speaker 1>biggest artist in fucking America.

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<v Speaker 2>By all Mexicans are majority.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I mean, if you look at that boy, what's

1:22:08.720 --> 1:22:10.280
<v Speaker 1>that boy name? They be kissing all the men.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh bad buddy.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that motherfucking huge and nobody get all them excuses.

1:22:17.560 --> 1:22:20.920
<v Speaker 1>Is fucking for the birds. That shit for the fucking birds.

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<v Speaker 1>I never loved when Nigga did Oh you know, it's

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<v Speaker 1>just it. No, you're joint Saint Jam.

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<v Speaker 3>And like you're saying that too. People talk about like

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<v Speaker 3>the gatekeepers. I've already in my head and this is

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<v Speaker 3>the way I think. I think people that say there's

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<v Speaker 3>gatekeepers on maybe like a lower level, it's because you're

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<v Speaker 3>looking for verification from people that you think that you

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<v Speaker 3>want it from. You're not paying attention to other things.

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<v Speaker 3>You just worried about this platform, or they ain't putting

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<v Speaker 3>me on this platform.

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<v Speaker 1>I told Trash that Trash be talking about if you

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<v Speaker 1>get in hip hop to impress other rappers, you already

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<v Speaker 1>fucked up.

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<v Speaker 3>That's why you have a gatekeeper, cause you this person

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<v Speaker 3>that you want so badly to pay attention to you

1:23:06.840 --> 1:23:08.880
<v Speaker 3>is not paying attention to you. Now you say, oh,

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<v Speaker 3>this motherfucker don't want to let me in. Let this motherfucker.

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<v Speaker 1>It's fans. Although, and what changed is it used to

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<v Speaker 1>be me to fans. That's what everybody asking me, Glass, Well,

1:23:19.760 --> 1:23:21.599
<v Speaker 1>this rapper ain't gonna support you, So what I'm going

1:23:21.640 --> 1:23:24.040
<v Speaker 1>to the fans? Well, Glass, this platform gonna spport you.

1:23:24.080 --> 1:23:26.679
<v Speaker 1>So what I'm going to the fans. All they did

1:23:26.800 --> 1:23:29.080
<v Speaker 1>was become a bridge from me to the fans. My

1:23:29.240 --> 1:23:30.640
<v Speaker 1>job is to figure out how to get over that

1:23:30.680 --> 1:23:33.880
<v Speaker 1>bridge without them. They don't. They don't got the only

1:23:33.960 --> 1:23:36.439
<v Speaker 1>bridge to the fucking audience. It's up to me to

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<v Speaker 1>figure it out. And if I ain't playing ball the

1:23:39.200 --> 1:23:41.400
<v Speaker 1>way they want me to play ball, then I gotta

1:23:41.439 --> 1:23:44.960
<v Speaker 1>do it myself. But it ain't no motherfucking excuses of oh,

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<v Speaker 1>you know what, this is the reason I'm not making it,

1:23:46.920 --> 1:23:49.640
<v Speaker 1>because no, it's because your joints ain't jamming. If you

1:23:49.680 --> 1:23:52.120
<v Speaker 1>may cuts that jam, you'll be in the game.

1:23:52.560 --> 1:23:55.720
<v Speaker 3>Like opening up for an artist. Me. Let's say you

1:23:55.840 --> 1:23:59.320
<v Speaker 3>gotta show right, you're a headliner. I get to open

1:23:59.400 --> 1:23:59.800
<v Speaker 3>up for G.

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<v Speaker 2>You I got.

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<v Speaker 3>There's only one thing two things I could do. Go

1:24:04.720 --> 1:24:06.799
<v Speaker 3>in there and just do what I do, or really

1:24:06.840 --> 1:24:09.360
<v Speaker 3>go in there and be like, I gotta take some

1:24:09.439 --> 1:24:11.000
<v Speaker 3>of GE's fans because.

1:24:10.840 --> 1:24:13.640
<v Speaker 1>And does it fit your audience? Do you make it?

1:24:14.280 --> 1:24:16.559
<v Speaker 1>If a niggas doing certain things, I don't know why

1:24:16.640 --> 1:24:18.720
<v Speaker 1>niggas don't put round pigs around hole.

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<v Speaker 2>I learned that early on with you, exactly when I

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<v Speaker 2>remember with the show that I met him at, even

1:24:24.000 --> 1:24:25.920
<v Speaker 2>though it was a great experience, and I got to me,

1:24:26.120 --> 1:24:28.880
<v Speaker 2>I shouldn't have been opening for DJ Quick, not with

1:24:29.000 --> 1:24:32.800
<v Speaker 2>the music I had now stylistically, if if I was

1:24:32.840 --> 1:24:35.680
<v Speaker 2>doing what I was supposed to, Sure, but is.

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<v Speaker 3>That actually true?

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<v Speaker 2>Hell yeah yeah, because you can't take people's fans that audience.

1:24:40.240 --> 1:24:43.240
<v Speaker 1>Well, you can't take people fans you gain fans you

1:24:43.280 --> 1:24:47.120
<v Speaker 1>don't take. Trust me, they not finna discover you and

1:24:47.160 --> 1:24:49.240
<v Speaker 1>think to themselves like, why ain't fucking Quick no more?

1:24:49.360 --> 1:24:52.519
<v Speaker 1>This nigga is the nigga. No, he'll just add you

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<v Speaker 1>to his music.

1:24:53.840 --> 1:24:55.479
<v Speaker 3>He might well do you hear you on a Tuesday?

1:24:55.479 --> 1:24:57.800
<v Speaker 1>But he've been listening to Quick. He might listen to

1:24:57.840 --> 1:24:59.559
<v Speaker 1>you like he listening to Quick, or he might listen

1:24:59.560 --> 1:25:01.280
<v Speaker 1>to you more than he listening Quick. But just because

1:25:01.320 --> 1:25:03.639
<v Speaker 1>he heard of you, you ain't taking him from Quick.

1:25:03.840 --> 1:25:06.960
<v Speaker 1>So just the mentality, it's just to have exposure with

1:25:07.040 --> 1:25:09.800
<v Speaker 1>fan bases that fit the type of music you make.

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<v Speaker 1>So yes, that's the point. But we just got to

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<v Speaker 1>get to a place to where we stop blaming everything

1:25:15.520 --> 1:25:19.280
<v Speaker 1>but not good music. It ain't the culture. Ain't playing

1:25:19.320 --> 1:25:21.719
<v Speaker 1>that orders played. It ain't no such thing. People eating

1:25:21.720 --> 1:25:24.000
<v Speaker 1>soul fool Slavery's been over two hundred fucking years. People

1:25:24.040 --> 1:25:26.800
<v Speaker 1>still eating soul food right now. They sell it for

1:25:26.840 --> 1:25:28.840
<v Speaker 1>more money than they ever got. Restaurants, clubs. They got

1:25:28.840 --> 1:25:32.040
<v Speaker 1>a hundred dollars soul for playing trucks right now, twenty

1:25:32.040 --> 1:25:35.599
<v Speaker 1>five dollar bowls of fucking soul food. Feel me. Soul

1:25:35.640 --> 1:25:38.960
<v Speaker 1>food is pop and culture never expire. Culture is always

1:25:39.000 --> 1:25:41.280
<v Speaker 1>gonna be something that we remind us of our struggle

1:25:41.320 --> 1:25:43.679
<v Speaker 1>because we love the state as much as humans act

1:25:43.760 --> 1:25:45.639
<v Speaker 1>like they want to deny it. They love. That's why

1:25:45.680 --> 1:25:48.320
<v Speaker 1>them rich ass niggas come join gangs, because they trying

1:25:48.360 --> 1:25:51.240
<v Speaker 1>to stay rooted within the culture and the community of poverty.

1:25:51.240 --> 1:25:53.880
<v Speaker 1>And struggle to remember. They want that respect that we

1:25:54.280 --> 1:25:57.320
<v Speaker 1>create in that environment. Don't nobody want to be up

1:25:57.360 --> 1:25:59.519
<v Speaker 1>there with them white people all that tall, like niggas

1:25:59.560 --> 1:26:01.160
<v Speaker 1>want to be up with the white people's eating that

1:26:01.200 --> 1:26:03.439
<v Speaker 1>fucking shit. No, you don't. You just don't want the

1:26:03.479 --> 1:26:06.760
<v Speaker 1>traumatic experience that came with not having something. That's all

1:26:06.800 --> 1:26:09.160
<v Speaker 1>you really want. But in real life, you would love

1:26:09.200 --> 1:26:11.200
<v Speaker 1>to still be able to walk amongst your peers and

1:26:11.520 --> 1:26:14.679
<v Speaker 1>show love and get gratitude. That's what we all desire

1:26:14.760 --> 1:26:17.599
<v Speaker 1>and nigga. So that's why hip hop, the culture will

1:26:17.640 --> 1:26:21.000
<v Speaker 1>never Nigga Dicky's could never play out because it's always

1:26:21.040 --> 1:26:24.280
<v Speaker 1>a nigga struggling. This is America. Chucks could never play

1:26:24.280 --> 1:26:27.120
<v Speaker 1>out because it's always a nigga struggling and this is America.

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<v Speaker 1>It could never play out. You always want to remember

1:26:30.920 --> 1:26:33.240
<v Speaker 1>because you want to always stay connected to that dirt,

1:26:33.320 --> 1:26:36.720
<v Speaker 1>to that ground, CUD. That's why culture could never play out.

1:26:36.960 --> 1:26:40.280
<v Speaker 1>So I can't argue with kids telling me about culture.

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<v Speaker 1>They don't know shit. Your favorite food is fucking McDonald's.

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<v Speaker 1>You don't know shit. What the fuck I was telling

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<v Speaker 1>Cable either, Well, how do you reach the twins? I'm

1:26:48.680 --> 1:26:52.559
<v Speaker 1>not reaching the twins. They like McDonald's. This is in

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<v Speaker 1>and out. They gonna grow up one day and be like,

1:26:54.479 --> 1:26:57.479
<v Speaker 1>I'm fucking with that. They gonna one day your kid

1:26:57.560 --> 1:26:59.960
<v Speaker 1>gonna wake up trash and be like, I don't want

1:27:00.000 --> 1:27:03.720
<v Speaker 1>that no more. Where you going in and out? I

1:27:03.800 --> 1:27:08.120
<v Speaker 1>want that. That's what I'll make. Drake is trying to

1:27:08.120 --> 1:27:11.920
<v Speaker 1>make McDonald's because he's been having McDonald's for years. Glasses

1:27:12.000 --> 1:27:14.880
<v Speaker 1>is making in and out. This is gonna be with

1:27:15.040 --> 1:27:16.679
<v Speaker 1>you when you get your when you grow some hair

1:27:16.760 --> 1:27:20.040
<v Speaker 1>on your nuts. This is what you want to eat.

1:27:20.080 --> 1:27:22.720
<v Speaker 1>You can eat this forever. That's the thing. You can

1:27:22.760 --> 1:27:24.920
<v Speaker 1>only eat McDonald's till you like fifteen if you got

1:27:24.960 --> 1:27:29.280
<v Speaker 1>a brain, thirteen, if you fourteen, fifteen is pushing it.

1:27:29.400 --> 1:27:33.120
<v Speaker 1>Seventeen eighteen. You just fucked up as a kid. But

1:27:33.880 --> 1:27:37.120
<v Speaker 1>guess what you eat in and out forever? When you

1:27:37.200 --> 1:27:41.599
<v Speaker 1>finally eat that fucking your first double double, McDonald's can't

1:27:41.600 --> 1:27:46.320
<v Speaker 1>give you that no more. And I'll be right here

1:27:46.320 --> 1:27:49.439
<v Speaker 1>to your motherfucking asses eighty twenty to eighty You with me,

1:27:50.360 --> 1:27:53.760
<v Speaker 1>McDonald Drake had have you until you twenty one? All

1:27:53.800 --> 1:27:56.559
<v Speaker 1>that little popcorn bubblegum lie you tell you because all

1:27:56.600 --> 1:27:58.760
<v Speaker 1>that main street popshit, all these niggas tell you y'all

1:27:58.760 --> 1:28:01.200
<v Speaker 1>can have that. But when you ready to get this

1:28:01.280 --> 1:28:04.040
<v Speaker 1>real nourishment, I'm right here waiting for you, Cuz I

1:28:04.840 --> 1:28:08.160
<v Speaker 1>ain't got seven thousand locations across America across the country.

1:28:08.479 --> 1:28:12.000
<v Speaker 1>I ain't got seventeen thousand locations across the world. It's

1:28:12.000 --> 1:28:15.120
<v Speaker 1>about four five hundred of these. Guess what, you're jump

1:28:15.120 --> 1:28:17.559
<v Speaker 1>on a plane to come get this real work. Make

1:28:17.640 --> 1:28:20.000
<v Speaker 1>you feel better, get this work. You're gonna show this

1:28:20.080 --> 1:28:22.720
<v Speaker 1>work to other motherfuckers to say, y'all fuck with in

1:28:22.760 --> 1:28:26.080
<v Speaker 1>and out, because it's that work, and that's what your

1:28:26.160 --> 1:28:29.560
<v Speaker 1>job is, to purify your shit and deliver that. You

1:28:29.720 --> 1:28:33.160
<v Speaker 1>can't wake up one day and make McDonald's. McDonald's a

1:28:33.160 --> 1:28:36.080
<v Speaker 1>full process of a lot of motherfuckers getting beaten fucked over.

1:28:37.840 --> 1:28:41.280
<v Speaker 1>There's a lot of evil in that business. A lot

1:28:41.320 --> 1:28:44.160
<v Speaker 1>of evil in McDonald's. A niggas stole two niggas whole

1:28:44.200 --> 1:28:46.479
<v Speaker 1>ideas and ruin their whole business to put it for everybody.

1:28:46.520 --> 1:28:49.240
<v Speaker 1>And it don't even represent food no more. It represents

1:28:49.240 --> 1:28:54.559
<v Speaker 1>wealth for kids. McDonald's represent wealth for kids. Wherever got

1:28:54.560 --> 1:28:56.960
<v Speaker 1>the happy meal, they're the ones doing good. Addy Murphy

1:28:56.960 --> 1:28:59.400
<v Speaker 1>told you about this in the eighties. Nigga have a

1:28:59.479 --> 1:29:02.759
<v Speaker 1>full beef berger with all kinds of flavors and vestibles,

1:29:02.840 --> 1:29:04.720
<v Speaker 1>extra shit put on there to make it worth a lot.

1:29:04.920 --> 1:29:08.080
<v Speaker 1>But if somebody got McDonald's, he's supposed to be doing better.

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<v Speaker 1>So I don't give a fuck when those little fucking

1:29:12.920 --> 1:29:16.280
<v Speaker 1>kids think card them nigga's ignorant. It's my job to

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<v Speaker 1>teach them. It ain't my job to listen to them

1:29:18.960 --> 1:29:21.439
<v Speaker 1>as far as outside of letting them speak. My job

1:29:21.520 --> 1:29:23.960
<v Speaker 1>is to teach them the truth. This is the facts.

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<v Speaker 1>Good looking out for tuning into the No Seller's Podcast.

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<v Speaker 1>This episode was recorded right here on the West coast

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<v Speaker 1>of the USA and produced by my homeboy A King,

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