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Speaker 1: lot to talk about today. We're talking about Kevin Durant's

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Speaker 2: Aka John What's Up my Guy?

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Speaker 1: Dragonfly Jones aka Tyler. I think if I really white

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Speaker 3: And balance.

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Speaker 4: John and I'll be like, what's up, well, Jeffrow, really,

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Speaker 4: Ryan seacresty out here?

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Speaker 5: No, we're gonna pass on it.

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Speaker 1: All right. Well, we're gonna start off with a combination

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Speaker 1: of two of our most popular segments here on the

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Speaker 1: Jenkins and Jones Show, The K D D M Activity

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Speaker 1: and the Return of cock Talk with Wood. Jeffrow, I

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Speaker 1: don't know.

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Speaker 3: I don't know if I should leave this up, you

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Speaker 3: know what I mean, I don't know if I'm the

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Speaker 6: Was actually like, why that's a lot of cock talk,

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Speaker 6: you know what I mean? Like, I was surprised about

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Speaker 6: the amount of cock talk.

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Speaker 3: I don't condone that much.

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Speaker 1: All right, let me let me let me set it up.

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Speaker 1: Kevin Durant slid into the d MS of Michael Rappaport

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Speaker 1: and said some stuff that a lot of people would

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Speaker 1: like to say to Michael Rappaport. Uh control, that he's

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Speaker 1: a troll. He called him a dickhead. He said, I'm

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Speaker 1: gonna spit in your face when I see you dirty. Yes,

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Speaker 1: a lot of he called him a pussy, but mostly

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Speaker 1: he said the word cock quite a bit. Absolutely, What

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Speaker 1: did you guys think of what KD said? What did

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Speaker 1: you think of John being a trendsetter with bringing the

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Speaker 1: word cock to the non porn star blackmail community.

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Speaker 6: We're normalizing cock over here, guys, we're reclaiming the word.

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Speaker 3: Okay. What do you think though?

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Speaker 7: I legit thought that they were fake screenshots at first,

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Speaker 7: because I was like, Katie, don't talk like this. You

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Speaker 7: know that cock talk, and I'm like, black men do

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Speaker 7: not talk like this. There was an excessive amount of

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Speaker 7: cock talk. But then Katie owned up to it. You know,

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Speaker 7: basically KD said, you know, this is how we joke

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Speaker 7: all the time. He just called feelings this one time

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Speaker 7: in the air. So so KT is an undercover cock

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Speaker 7: talker when we found out.

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Speaker 6: But what we really learned was don't be cool with

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Speaker 6: whole ass niggas, because that's what happens when you have

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Speaker 6: it right, when you win a friend and y'all that's

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Speaker 6: how y'all move, and then somebody catch feelings.

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Speaker 3: I get it, you know, I've been flamed.

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Speaker 5: I got some of the funniest friends ever, you know

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Speaker 5: what I mean. They need blame and flame my ass

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Speaker 5: all the time.

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Speaker 6: But just you got to lean in and accept that

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Speaker 6: shit when it's your turn to get flamed you feel me,

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Speaker 6: and he caught hello feelings and that, and then he

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Speaker 5: That's how you know, you know, he weak. That's that's

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Speaker 5: some bullshit.

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Speaker 1: What's a bigger like bitch move going public with it

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Speaker 1: or having your lawyer call though, Like I feel like

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Speaker 1: the lawyer.

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Speaker 3: Was a lawyer going public going that's it.

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Speaker 6: See, he's a thorough ass bitch ass motherfucker, right, he's

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Speaker 6: you know easy, you know, you know, like that's that is,

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Speaker 6: all questions.

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Speaker 3: You know, I'm gonna go public with this.

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Speaker 5: I'm calling my lawyer, you know what I mean?

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Speaker 3: You know what I mean? Like he I mean, that's

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Speaker 3: that's that's so weak.

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Speaker 6: We talk about you know, like Katie and how he's sensitive.

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Speaker 6: This is the this is what I don't think what

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Speaker 6: I think KD is human. I think this right here

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Speaker 6: is is that's that's weak. Bro, that's weak to do that,

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Speaker 6: especially to somebody who y'all have already set this tone

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Speaker 6: when y'all communicate.

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Speaker 3: That's so that's fucked up.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, But I mean finding out that fucking KD and

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Speaker 7: Rappaporter Undercover Friends was a big too, Like, what the.

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Speaker 3: Is that about?

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Speaker 5: I shp.

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Speaker 7: I didn't even know these fuckers inner acted until and

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Speaker 7: Katie telling us about their history they have.

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Speaker 3: I'm like, what the fuck?

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Speaker 8: Yeah, that was quite the wrong.

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Speaker 1: We learned a lot. We learned a lot. I do

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Speaker 1: think at this point Kevin Durant's social media activity is

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Speaker 1: going to be a weekly segment on the show. Like

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Speaker 1: it's just the third fucking week in a row we've

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Speaker 1: talked about this ship. Do I need to like set

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Speaker 6: We might we might need to set our ship up

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Speaker 6: so we know when he tweets, you know what I mean,

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Speaker 6: Like just set the alarm up because he's going ham

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Speaker 6: you feel me? But I hope so, man, I mean

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Speaker 6: that was a little.

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Speaker 5: That was But.

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Speaker 9: For the most part it has been pretty fun.

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Speaker 5: I can't believe he said all that ship.

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Speaker 3: Indeed, Jesus spin on you, And I don't know how

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Speaker 3: you can like that. Somebody tell me they spin I'm

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Speaker 9: Even funny dogs, now, if if they were a person,

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Speaker 9: you might accidentally slap them in response, because that was

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Speaker 9: you know, like, that's how disrespectful spinning on you is.

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Speaker 3: But anyway, man.

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Speaker 5: There were for slides full of cock and more slides worth.

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Speaker 9: A ship on a tweet dog. When he snitched the

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Speaker 6: All four slides by the second one was, he like,

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Speaker 6: I'm kind of being a weak ass dude right now,

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Speaker 6: you know what I mean?

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Speaker 1: He four, Oh, man, I'll just say this, bro, I'm

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Speaker 1: glad that our jobs don't require us to troll people, like,

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Speaker 1: I mean, you know what I mean. I just it's

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Speaker 1: like you just look at rapid for it. He just

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Speaker 1: looks unwell, bro Like, it just doesn't seem like an

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Speaker 1: enjoy Like you got to be able to end your

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Speaker 1: just don't see how you could do that when you're

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Speaker 1: you're dming with your friend and he called you a

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Speaker 1: pasty pitch and said he's gonna spit your face, bro Like.

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Speaker 6: And then you're arguing on the internet all day too

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Speaker 6: as well, Like that's what happens when you are when

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Speaker 6: your job is to argue on the internet.

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Speaker 9: You, I mean, you you look like a call it

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Speaker 9: just told the truth.

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Speaker 5: He told that.

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Speaker 1: To be clear, You've chosen a profession that is what

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Speaker 1: all the worst people in the world are doing for fun. Bro,

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Speaker 1: Like you know what I mean. You talk about like

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Speaker 1: pro athletes. You say, oh, you're you have a job.

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Speaker 1: That's what kids do for fun. But it's your job,

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Speaker 1: rappaports the opposite of that. You have a job that

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Speaker 1: the worst people in the world do to cope with

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Speaker 1: being the worst people in the world. That I can

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Speaker 1: monetize it.

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Speaker 10: Right right anyway, all right.

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Speaker 1: No new information here, but Russell Westbrook has been on

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Speaker 1: a fucking tear lately, and he is married to a

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Speaker 1: real one. We all knew that about Nina Westbrook already,

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Speaker 1: but I have to bring up the ferocity, the thoroughness

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Speaker 1: Russ had a historic game, Tyler, What was the line

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Speaker 1: he had, like a forty five nineteen twenty five.

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Speaker 8: Twelve, twenty one or something like that.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, it's thirty five, fourteen and twenty one.

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Speaker 5: Ain't no fucking ain't nothing to say about that.

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Speaker 1: No one had ever no one had ever done it

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Speaker 1: before in NBA history.

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Speaker 1: Does a segment, stephen A doesn't care about Westbrook's big night.

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Speaker 1: Nina went on her ig stories, that's Russell Westbrook's wife.

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Speaker 1: You know about Russ's journey, She had as its own paragraph, respectfully,

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Speaker 1: I'm not a fan, and there is no greater power

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Speaker 1: move that I am gonna remove each limb from your body,

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Speaker 1: but I'm gonna be really polite in doing so. And

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Speaker 1: on top of it, she also added him seven times.

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Speaker 3: This is the thing. I know.

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Speaker 5: Their relationship is so great, you know what I mean?

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Speaker 5: Like he married himself.

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Speaker 6: Like that's if if the roles were reverse, Westbrook would

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Speaker 5: Like I love that dude, and and he was And

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Speaker 5: do stephen A, what, how are you going to find

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Speaker 5: something wrong with that? Somebody has a record breaking.

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Speaker 6: Fucking incredible night and then you come up and find

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Speaker 5: Of course she did it, and she's supposed to.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, I think what stuck with me was like the

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Speaker 7: And Rust was like, you know, and imagine the spotlight

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Speaker 7: commentating on them, right, And he was like, you know,

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Speaker 7: when I was playing at UCLA, that was a commentator

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Speaker 7: I didn't listen to him, because you know, this commentary

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Speaker 7: that that you know, people put on athletes, that shit

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Speaker 7: all that shit out, but that shit wears on motherfuckers

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Speaker 7: and especially young kids, like you know, if you're tearing

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Speaker 7: instead of looking to pick them apart with every damn thing.

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Speaker 1: Well, we've talked about this before, but I think the

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Speaker 6: That, when you get online, you can see that people

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Speaker 5: Like, who's still arguing over that? Like I make it

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Speaker 3: You know what I mean?

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Speaker 6: It's just it's tiring, it's tiring and there's somebody that's

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Speaker 6: There's a whole bunch of shit going on. I'm telling

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Speaker 5: But yes, I get what you're saying.

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Speaker 1: Well, we're we're about to We're about to have you know,

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Speaker 1: He's just appreciating it. And I think it's a delicate

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Speaker 1: I totally understand that, but you do it is better.

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Speaker 1: You're more interested listening to someone talk about you know,

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Speaker 3: You know, right right right by Tyler.

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Speaker 5: Tyler does a really good job.

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Speaker 6: So I remember reading an article that I think Complex

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Speaker 6: wrote about you, Tyler and said, you know you you

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Speaker 6: I don't think Shaq means it that way, but it

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Speaker 7: Like you can definitely slander and it'd be good nature.

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Speaker 3: You know what I mean.

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Speaker 12: Yeah, Like like I never cussed, I say, like wold

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Speaker 12: I readed out how how the Clippers? You know, I

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Speaker 12: but it's fucking hilarious, Like you don't need to be

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Speaker 6: On that, And I think that's where people are confused.

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Speaker 6: You're not being funny, You're being a dick. You're not

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Speaker 6: And there's people that aren't funny or interesting that are,

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Speaker 3: I like him, you know what I mean.

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Speaker 1: I think I feel about stephen A the way I

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Speaker 3: I don't watch the show, but I like him, you

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Speaker 1: He came and spoke at a high school at a

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Speaker 8: The free throw line.

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Speaker 3: He saw stephen A.

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Speaker 6: Me and Tyler we went to New Orleans and saw

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Speaker 3: He snuck us into a.

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Speaker 3: We won't talk about what happened throughout the nights, but.

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Speaker 6: We saw Stephen and he was talking to anybody that

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Speaker 8: He's super friendly, super friendly.

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Speaker 7: And that was the first moment where I realized I

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Speaker 3: Oh that he was up there long as hair of

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Speaker 7: Bro I remember I remember I was like, yo, that's

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Speaker 7: stephen A, like the joint romer. I remember when we

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Speaker 7: that's stephen and that you like, are you sure? I

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Speaker 7: That's if you can legit see stephen A's airline from beyond,

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Speaker 7: Like like, yeah.

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Speaker 3: He was off. He was off forehead and shoes, bro,

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Speaker 3: that's all. He was fore head and feet anywhere.

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Speaker 1: And thankfully stephen A is not a micro rapp report

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Speaker 6: But yeah, like you know he's solid, But yeah, I

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Speaker 5: You know, Internet she lacking that he got, you know.

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Speaker 7: Man, speaking of k D and Stephen, do you remember

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Speaker 8: Was like, you don't want to make an enemy out

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Speaker 3: I was like, what the wasn't to taking bullshit? What?

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Speaker 8: I was like, this is this a fucking commercial for

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Speaker 3: He's like, I'm gonna tell you nap him.

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Speaker 8: You don't want to make an.

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Speaker 1: I was like, God, hear me now, and hear me well,

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Speaker 3: Basketball schools, bro right, turn into a builds. You don't

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Speaker 2: Oh.

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Speaker 1: The last thing that I would say about the culture

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Speaker 1: it's actually that dude's not the comedian. He's a fucking asshole, right.

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Speaker 1: And the problem is Twitter has returned us to the

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Speaker 6: Asshole, and the person that's the loudest think that they're

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Speaker 1: thank you so much for coming on. Jenkinson Jones, what

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Speaker 1: up baby?

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Speaker 3: What's so man?

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Speaker 5: Top? Hey, Mike, that was an interesting beginning.

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Speaker 3: That was very professional.

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Speaker 5: Bro, we are now welcoming.

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Speaker 8: That motherfucker that was That was very neat, that was

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Speaker 3: I am of you, Mike.

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Speaker 1: We have company, we have company, saying company man.

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Speaker 13: Yeah, I'm excited. I'm very I'm very excited. What's this

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Speaker 13: is that? What's this poster you have behind you here?

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Speaker 3: Oh?

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Speaker 5: That's all that's a Superman Verse, Ali, You feel me?

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Speaker 13: I got you on this on the small screen.

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Speaker 8: Appreciate you.

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Speaker 7: Appreciation Ali would a whooped Superman's ass.

441
00:21:11,400 --> 00:21:13,080
Speaker 8: I feel the shame dog.

442
00:21:13,800 --> 00:21:17,119
Speaker 13: The other nuts I get. I get the sentimentality. I

443
00:21:17,160 --> 00:21:21,320
Speaker 13: get the sentimentality. I just like two days ago watched

444
00:21:21,320 --> 00:21:24,760
Speaker 13: Superman ice blow of fucking thunder ax from Steppenwolf, like

445
00:21:24,800 --> 00:21:28,040
Speaker 13: it was nothing. He's gonna be okay in a fistfight with.

446
00:21:30,640 --> 00:21:32,479
Speaker 7: I think you can't have them at like, you know,

447
00:21:32,520 --> 00:21:35,560
Speaker 7: the same weight class, because like Superman is strong as fuck,

448
00:21:35,680 --> 00:21:38,439
Speaker 7: Like you'd have to figure out the weight for him

449
00:21:38,480 --> 00:21:42,040
Speaker 7: to drop so that he's actually you know, to forty

450
00:21:42,119 --> 00:21:45,680
Speaker 7: ish or whatever. Right, And I think Supermaker probably you

451
00:21:45,760 --> 00:21:48,080
Speaker 7: got himself. He can probably speak them tabolism up and

452
00:21:48,280 --> 00:21:50,560
Speaker 7: drop like you know, fucking two hundred pounds needed to

453
00:21:50,600 --> 00:21:51,159
Speaker 7: be to beat you.

454
00:21:51,160 --> 00:21:52,040
Speaker 8: Know, like two undred and forty.

455
00:21:55,280 --> 00:21:56,960
Speaker 1: You're gonna beat.

456
00:21:56,760 --> 00:21:57,560
Speaker 8: The fun out of him.

457
00:21:57,600 --> 00:21:59,879
Speaker 1: You're gonna have Superman with the garbage bags taped the

458
00:22:00,000 --> 00:22:01,800
Speaker 1: around him. But it laughs at the part.

459
00:22:01,720 --> 00:22:03,359
Speaker 5: Trying to drop away.

460
00:22:04,320 --> 00:22:07,520
Speaker 1: All right, Shay, you've declined to be here as a

461
00:22:07,520 --> 00:22:09,520
Speaker 1: as a press junkie. You just hang it out, which

462
00:22:09,560 --> 00:22:11,800
Speaker 1: is like the best fucking thing ever. So we're gonna

463
00:22:11,800 --> 00:22:14,120
Speaker 1: ask you exclusively bullshit questions.

464
00:22:14,560 --> 00:22:16,119
Speaker 2: Okay, that sounds good to me.

465
00:22:16,320 --> 00:22:19,240
Speaker 1: I will ask you one semi serious question at the beginning,

466
00:22:19,280 --> 00:22:23,000
Speaker 1: which is your career path to me has always kind

467
00:22:23,040 --> 00:22:27,159
Speaker 1: of looked like the like the heath Ledger joker in

468
00:22:27,200 --> 00:22:32,680
Speaker 1: that it seems simultaneously completely improvised and meticulously planned out.

469
00:22:33,160 --> 00:22:36,480
Speaker 1: Can you just which one of those? Which one of

470
00:22:36,480 --> 00:22:38,760
Speaker 1: those is it? Because on the one hand, you've built

471
00:22:38,800 --> 00:22:42,040
Speaker 1: everything kind of step by step from someone people like

472
00:22:42,080 --> 00:22:44,960
Speaker 1: on Twitter to having your own publishing company. But on

473
00:22:45,000 --> 00:22:48,120
Speaker 1: the other hand, it doesn't feel like, you know, it's

474
00:22:48,160 --> 00:22:49,399
Speaker 1: a step by step by step.

475
00:22:49,400 --> 00:22:51,600
Speaker 3: It feels very natural. Yeah.

476
00:22:51,640 --> 00:22:54,600
Speaker 13: Well, first of all, the publishing company is a pretend.

477
00:22:54,720 --> 00:22:57,119
Speaker 13: It's like a fake thing. It's like a joke. You

478
00:22:57,160 --> 00:22:59,440
Speaker 13: can just say you have a publishing company and people

479
00:22:59,480 --> 00:22:59,920
Speaker 13: are like, all.

480
00:22:59,880 --> 00:23:02,960
Speaker 1: Right, that's You've put a logo on a door. You're

481
00:23:03,000 --> 00:23:05,000
Speaker 1: like this, you're you're an NBA franchise.

482
00:23:05,040 --> 00:23:07,639
Speaker 13: As far as yeah, yeah, yeah, you know, I was.

483
00:23:07,720 --> 00:23:09,600
Speaker 13: I was leaning into the bit. I thought it would

484
00:23:09,600 --> 00:23:11,320
Speaker 13: be funny to put a fake logo on a door.

485
00:23:11,359 --> 00:23:13,720
Speaker 13: And now people are like, oh, wow, this guy has

486
00:23:13,760 --> 00:23:17,840
Speaker 13: his own publishing company. Meanwhile, we make zero dollars, we

487
00:23:17,920 --> 00:23:20,240
Speaker 13: have zero products, we don't we don't do anything. I

488
00:23:20,320 --> 00:23:23,120
Speaker 13: just thought the logo was cool, you know, and that's

489
00:23:23,160 --> 00:23:27,560
Speaker 13: probably a good I don't know, metaphor or analogy or whatever.

490
00:23:27,680 --> 00:23:30,320
Speaker 13: For my writing career. I've just been trying to like

491
00:23:30,920 --> 00:23:33,359
Speaker 13: do some shit I thought was fun or cool with

492
00:23:33,480 --> 00:23:36,720
Speaker 13: some people that I that I like, and sometimes it

493
00:23:36,800 --> 00:23:38,840
Speaker 13: works out and like a cool thing happens, and sometimes

494
00:23:38,840 --> 00:23:41,200
Speaker 13: it doesn't, and you're like, well that was a waste

495
00:23:41,240 --> 00:23:43,399
Speaker 13: of four weeks, but let's try another thing, you know

496
00:23:43,440 --> 00:23:47,760
Speaker 13: what I'm saying. So there's no like grand plan like

497
00:23:47,800 --> 00:23:48,640
Speaker 13: what the Joker does.

498
00:23:48,720 --> 00:23:51,600
Speaker 2: That's that's like a clever grab by by you.

499
00:23:51,680 --> 00:23:54,680
Speaker 13: Because people always mentioned like how wild the Joker is

500
00:23:54,720 --> 00:23:56,840
Speaker 13: and like, oh, I'm just a dog chasing a car,

501
00:23:56,880 --> 00:23:58,159
Speaker 13: I don't know what to do. But that's not the

502
00:23:58,160 --> 00:23:59,720
Speaker 13: case at all. Like he has planned all of this

503
00:23:59,760 --> 00:24:04,440
Speaker 13: shit perfectly. If I have like his level of planning,

504
00:24:04,480 --> 00:24:07,280
Speaker 13: I'd probably be a little more successful than I am

505
00:24:07,400 --> 00:24:09,639
Speaker 13: right now. But mostly it's just been accidents.

506
00:24:11,000 --> 00:24:13,600
Speaker 6: You're the king of I just made fifteen K and

507
00:24:13,640 --> 00:24:15,560
Speaker 6: want to help some people out, you know what I mean.

508
00:24:15,640 --> 00:24:18,359
Speaker 6: Like you're the type of person people you know what

509
00:24:18,400 --> 00:24:19,880
Speaker 6: I'm saying, People say they'll.

510
00:24:19,720 --> 00:24:21,200
Speaker 3: Be when they're successful, but aren't.

511
00:24:21,560 --> 00:24:24,800
Speaker 5: Like what has kept you so humble and grounded.

512
00:24:24,400 --> 00:24:26,679
Speaker 6: When you can really just be out here flexing on niggas,

513
00:24:26,720 --> 00:24:27,600
Speaker 6: you know what I'm saying, Like.

514
00:24:29,440 --> 00:24:32,959
Speaker 13: You know what it is. I have some I have

515
00:24:33,000 --> 00:24:35,199
Speaker 13: three children here at my house who live with me,

516
00:24:35,840 --> 00:24:39,840
Speaker 13: all my three sons, and the youngest one especially is

517
00:24:39,920 --> 00:24:43,760
Speaker 13: just a fucking vicious person. Like as soon as I

518
00:24:43,800 --> 00:24:46,120
Speaker 13: walk in the room, he's like, hey, Dad, you look

519
00:24:46,200 --> 00:24:50,440
Speaker 13: fat today. I'm like, awesome, thanks, thanks, sons. I appreciate that.

520
00:24:50,960 --> 00:24:52,719
Speaker 13: Like he just never lets me breathe.

521
00:24:52,880 --> 00:24:53,080
Speaker 3: You know.

522
00:24:54,040 --> 00:24:56,040
Speaker 13: So, there's how you stay humble is you just have

523
00:24:56,119 --> 00:24:59,000
Speaker 13: somebody in your house making fun of you at all

524
00:24:59,080 --> 00:25:02,359
Speaker 13: at all times, completely unimpressed with anything I have ever done.

525
00:25:02,560 --> 00:25:04,720
Speaker 13: I'm like, hey, look check this out. Look Barack Obama

526
00:25:04,760 --> 00:25:07,920
Speaker 13: tweeted me and he's like, I'm fucking watching the Wildcrafts Dad,

527
00:25:07,960 --> 00:25:08,760
Speaker 13: I don't care about this.

528
00:25:08,840 --> 00:25:10,400
Speaker 2: What are you doing? Tell me when?

529
00:25:10,760 --> 00:25:13,560
Speaker 13: Tell me when Chris and Martin from the Wildcrafts tweet you,

530
00:25:13,640 --> 00:25:16,720
Speaker 13: and then I'll be impressed. I'm all right, all right,

531
00:25:16,840 --> 00:25:20,520
Speaker 13: that's I think. That's that's mainly. That's mainly what it is.

532
00:25:20,600 --> 00:25:22,879
Speaker 13: There's just, you know, none of this stuff is stuff

533
00:25:22,880 --> 00:25:24,520
Speaker 13: I've been trying to do or wanting to do. So

534
00:25:24,560 --> 00:25:26,639
Speaker 13: when it happens, it's like exciting for a minute, and

535
00:25:26,640 --> 00:25:28,840
Speaker 13: then I'm still the same person.

536
00:25:28,880 --> 00:25:32,520
Speaker 8: You know for sure for sure.

537
00:25:32,600 --> 00:25:35,760
Speaker 7: Yeah, man, you know, like Mike said, it all definitely

538
00:25:35,800 --> 00:25:38,000
Speaker 7: feels very natural because you know, you're a natural dude.

539
00:25:38,040 --> 00:25:39,760
Speaker 8: Like and going back to how.

540
00:25:39,960 --> 00:25:42,439
Speaker 7: How you know your family keeps you grounded, Like you

541
00:25:42,480 --> 00:25:43,960
Speaker 7: know you talk about your wife all the time. And

542
00:25:44,000 --> 00:25:46,520
Speaker 7: I'm gonna tell you the moment where I was like, yeah,

543
00:25:46,800 --> 00:25:48,560
Speaker 7: she was down for real.

544
00:25:48,480 --> 00:25:50,680
Speaker 8: When you told us that you were a street magician.

545
00:25:50,880 --> 00:25:56,439
Speaker 13: For hold on a second, Hold on a second. I

546
00:25:56,600 --> 00:25:59,560
Speaker 13: wasn't a street musician, but I wanted to be one

547
00:26:00,160 --> 00:26:06,680
Speaker 13: is different. I had not gotten on the actual street.

548
00:26:06,760 --> 00:26:09,520
Speaker 13: I watched a David Blaine special and I was like,

549
00:26:09,600 --> 00:26:11,840
Speaker 13: that looks cool. I want to do that. Let me

550
00:26:11,920 --> 00:26:15,640
Speaker 13: learn how to like double lift some cards or whatever.

551
00:26:16,160 --> 00:26:17,960
Speaker 13: And she said, yeah, go for it, do that and

552
00:26:18,040 --> 00:26:22,199
Speaker 13: try that. And yeah, she's she's been She has always

553
00:26:22,240 --> 00:26:24,119
Speaker 13: been there, which is really which is really cool no

554
00:26:24,160 --> 00:26:26,960
Speaker 13: matter what goofy shit I'm trying to do. I think

555
00:26:26,960 --> 00:26:30,639
Speaker 13: it was like two thousand and ten or something. Twenty thirteen.

556
00:26:30,680 --> 00:26:32,520
Speaker 13: I was like, I want to be a professional skateboarder.

557
00:26:32,840 --> 00:26:38,439
Speaker 13: And by this point I'm thirty two years old. I

558
00:26:38,520 --> 00:26:40,720
Speaker 13: was one hundred percent serious. She was like, yeah, you

559
00:26:40,760 --> 00:26:43,040
Speaker 13: should do that you should definitely do that. I bought

560
00:26:43,040 --> 00:26:46,280
Speaker 13: a skateboard. I started going to the skatepark and it

561
00:26:46,280 --> 00:26:48,440
Speaker 13: didn't work out, But if it would have, it would

562
00:26:48,440 --> 00:26:49,439
Speaker 13: have been because she told me to.

563
00:26:50,200 --> 00:26:50,920
Speaker 8: That's amazing.

564
00:26:51,760 --> 00:26:52,280
Speaker 3: I will say.

565
00:26:52,320 --> 00:26:55,480
Speaker 1: It's something about writers that, like it seems like male

566
00:26:55,640 --> 00:26:59,879
Speaker 1: writers attract like women who believe them for some reason,

567
00:27:00,160 --> 00:27:01,720
Speaker 1: you know, like who believe in them. Like I have

568
00:27:01,720 --> 00:27:04,439
Speaker 1: a similar dynamic with my wife. She told like, we're eighteen.

569
00:27:04,520 --> 00:27:07,000
Speaker 1: We started going out and I was like, I'm going

570
00:27:07,080 --> 00:27:08,760
Speaker 1: to be a poor writer for the rest of my life.

571
00:27:08,800 --> 00:27:10,639
Speaker 1: She was like, We're gonna be great, you know, And

572
00:27:10,680 --> 00:27:12,880
Speaker 1: I'm like, I have no fucking reason to believe that I.

573
00:27:12,840 --> 00:27:13,520
Speaker 3: Was gonna do this.

574
00:27:14,280 --> 00:27:14,679
Speaker 1: I don't know.

575
00:27:14,760 --> 00:27:15,560
Speaker 2: I don't know if it's.

576
00:27:15,440 --> 00:27:17,920
Speaker 1: Writing or what, but it's like a specific thing we've

577
00:27:17,920 --> 00:27:20,000
Speaker 1: noticed with with other guests as well. That kind of

578
00:27:20,000 --> 00:27:23,120
Speaker 1: cracked me up. Uh Shay, you're a smart dude, bro.

579
00:27:23,440 --> 00:27:27,840
Speaker 1: Why why King Kong? I don't understand, Like, like, why

580
00:27:27,920 --> 00:27:28,360
Speaker 1: is it that.

581
00:27:29,880 --> 00:27:30,560
Speaker 5: He's smart?

582
00:27:33,840 --> 00:27:34,199
Speaker 13: Yeah?

583
00:27:34,520 --> 00:27:36,440
Speaker 2: So so okay, So this is this is the thing.

584
00:27:36,480 --> 00:27:38,399
Speaker 13: Like I tweeted that I don't understand why people like

585
00:27:38,880 --> 00:27:42,120
Speaker 13: not like but prefer Godzilla to King Kong and everybody

586
00:27:42,160 --> 00:27:45,040
Speaker 13: automatically assumed I was talking about like I think Godzilla

587
00:27:45,080 --> 00:27:47,120
Speaker 13: is going to beat up King Kong in a fight,

588
00:27:47,320 --> 00:27:49,600
Speaker 13: which you know he might. Who knows he has the

589
00:27:49,640 --> 00:27:52,919
Speaker 13: ability to make tools. Remember on on kong Skull Island,

590
00:27:52,960 --> 00:27:55,840
Speaker 13: he like fucking grabbed a stick, ripped all the branches off,

591
00:27:55,880 --> 00:27:57,399
Speaker 13: and was like hitting that thing.

592
00:27:57,240 --> 00:27:57,680
Speaker 2: Around with it.

593
00:27:57,840 --> 00:27:59,840
Speaker 13: You know, he used he used the blade on the

594
00:28:00,320 --> 00:28:02,520
Speaker 13: like he knows what he's doing. But mainly I'm just

595
00:28:02,520 --> 00:28:08,119
Speaker 13: saying as like to hang out with Godzilla has way

596
00:28:08,480 --> 00:28:11,760
Speaker 13: worse vibes, Like he never seems like a cool dude

597
00:28:11,800 --> 00:28:15,000
Speaker 13: to be around. Yeah, it just is angry all the time.

598
00:28:16,240 --> 00:28:18,439
Speaker 13: He's like swims up out of the ocean and like

599
00:28:18,440 --> 00:28:21,119
Speaker 13: blows some nuclear fire and then disappears. For Bin's like

600
00:28:21,160 --> 00:28:25,000
Speaker 13: that fucking sucks. That's not cool, that's not fun. Meanwhile,

601
00:28:25,080 --> 00:28:28,119
Speaker 13: Kong is hanging out on an island. He's like having

602
00:28:28,119 --> 00:28:31,120
Speaker 13: a good time. He's laughing, remembering Peter Jackson's King Kong

603
00:28:31,200 --> 00:28:33,639
Speaker 13: like two thousand and five, Naomi Watch is juggling and

604
00:28:33,680 --> 00:28:35,639
Speaker 13: he's just having the best time of his life, laughing

605
00:28:35,680 --> 00:28:39,560
Speaker 13: about it. They go ice skating together. King Kong seems great.

606
00:28:39,880 --> 00:28:41,400
Speaker 8: Yes he does.

607
00:28:41,480 --> 00:28:44,120
Speaker 7: That's why I don't understand how how people are siding

608
00:28:44,160 --> 00:28:45,400
Speaker 7: with like the lizard over.

609
00:28:45,280 --> 00:28:45,960
Speaker 3: The primate here.

610
00:28:46,000 --> 00:28:48,280
Speaker 7: Why right, Like like you tell me you rather have

611
00:28:48,280 --> 00:28:50,480
Speaker 7: a pet iguana than like a pet funk.

612
00:28:50,520 --> 00:28:50,800
Speaker 2: Thank you.

613
00:28:51,240 --> 00:28:55,880
Speaker 13: That's exactly right. I've never seen a person carrying around

614
00:28:56,560 --> 00:28:58,960
Speaker 13: any type of reptile and been like, that's who I

615
00:28:59,000 --> 00:28:59,840
Speaker 13: want to be friends with.

616
00:29:00,280 --> 00:29:00,840
Speaker 3: Never.

617
00:29:00,960 --> 00:29:04,760
Speaker 13: Never, that's a weird guy. That's a weird guy. And

618
00:29:04,880 --> 00:29:07,600
Speaker 13: come to my house and you show you my reptile tank.

619
00:29:07,680 --> 00:29:08,560
Speaker 8: What bro you see that?

620
00:29:08,720 --> 00:29:10,440
Speaker 7: When you see that person in public with a snake

621
00:29:10,480 --> 00:29:12,480
Speaker 7: on their neck, and I think such terrible things about

622
00:29:12,480 --> 00:29:12,960
Speaker 7: that person.

623
00:29:12,880 --> 00:29:15,280
Speaker 2: Like terrible out here with them terrible.

624
00:29:15,720 --> 00:29:15,920
Speaker 8: Yeah.

625
00:29:16,080 --> 00:29:17,720
Speaker 13: When when when I was growing up, we used to

626
00:29:17,760 --> 00:29:19,320
Speaker 13: go to this flea market on the south side of

627
00:29:19,320 --> 00:29:21,920
Speaker 13: San Antonio and there was a monkey there. A guy

628
00:29:21,960 --> 00:29:24,520
Speaker 13: had a monkey. He had like a box around him

629
00:29:24,520 --> 00:29:26,640
Speaker 13: here and he would the guy, not the monkey. The

630
00:29:26,680 --> 00:29:28,520
Speaker 13: guy had a box around him with like a crank

631
00:29:28,560 --> 00:29:30,280
Speaker 13: on the side, and he would play it and the

632
00:29:30,320 --> 00:29:32,480
Speaker 13: monkey he'd wear a hat. It was like a little

633
00:29:32,520 --> 00:29:34,600
Speaker 13: caputa monkey. He'd have a hat on and he would

634
00:29:34,600 --> 00:29:36,560
Speaker 13: like dance around while the guy played the music. And

635
00:29:36,600 --> 00:29:39,000
Speaker 13: if you held a dollar out, he would come over

636
00:29:39,680 --> 00:29:42,520
Speaker 13: take the dollar and then tip his little hat to

637
00:29:42,560 --> 00:29:45,360
Speaker 13: you and then go back and dance. And maybe that's

638
00:29:45,400 --> 00:29:48,600
Speaker 13: what it was, but I don't know. I love monkeys

639
00:29:48,640 --> 00:29:51,680
Speaker 13: and apes, give them to me. They just seem so sweet.

640
00:29:52,520 --> 00:29:55,320
Speaker 6: You talked about being a magician, you talked about being

641
00:29:55,360 --> 00:29:56,040
Speaker 6: a skateboarder.

642
00:29:56,080 --> 00:29:57,800
Speaker 5: How the fuck did you become you?

643
00:29:57,800 --> 00:29:58,440
Speaker 3: You know what I mean?

644
00:29:58,560 --> 00:30:01,600
Speaker 5: Like, like, what was process? What I do said alone?

645
00:30:01,640 --> 00:30:02,080
Speaker 3: Being an all?

646
00:30:05,240 --> 00:30:07,200
Speaker 13: I was thrown really thrown off by that question for

647
00:30:07,240 --> 00:30:09,920
Speaker 13: a second. The it's just like a.

648
00:30:09,880 --> 00:30:10,880
Speaker 2: Weird, a weird frame.

649
00:30:11,160 --> 00:30:15,920
Speaker 13: I thought I was in trouble. You become you, Like,

650
00:30:15,920 --> 00:30:17,840
Speaker 13: that's it, That's the thing you say to somebody who

651
00:30:17,840 --> 00:30:20,000
Speaker 13: has done some really terrible.

652
00:30:19,600 --> 00:30:25,640
Speaker 1: Things, because that's the highest compliment.

653
00:30:28,040 --> 00:30:28,320
Speaker 3: Question.

654
00:30:29,520 --> 00:30:32,600
Speaker 13: Now that that was again, all of the writing stuff

655
00:30:32,720 --> 00:30:35,680
Speaker 13: was just like me sort of stumbling around in the

656
00:30:35,760 --> 00:30:38,440
Speaker 13: dark and then somebody else opening a door and being like, hey,

657
00:30:39,040 --> 00:30:42,520
Speaker 13: come over here, coming there. Like when I first started,

658
00:30:42,560 --> 00:30:45,560
Speaker 13: I was freelancing. I was at the Houston Press writing

659
00:30:45,560 --> 00:30:47,880
Speaker 13: there pretty regularly, like a couple of times a week.

660
00:30:48,360 --> 00:30:51,000
Speaker 13: And while I was doing that, I had the good

661
00:30:51,040 --> 00:30:55,240
Speaker 13: fortune of of like making a semi friends with Bunbee

662
00:30:55,480 --> 00:30:58,120
Speaker 13: from UGK and just one day I was at work.

663
00:30:58,120 --> 00:30:59,280
Speaker 2: I was I was still teaching.

664
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Speaker 13: I mean, most people don't know like that, we know,

665
00:31:01,320 --> 00:31:05,720
Speaker 13: but most people are like so anyway, so I was

666
00:31:05,720 --> 00:31:08,200
Speaker 13: like teaching and writing part time whatever. And I got

667
00:31:08,240 --> 00:31:10,360
Speaker 13: out of work one day and I had a voicemail

668
00:31:10,400 --> 00:31:12,560
Speaker 13: and it was from bun and he was like, hey,

669
00:31:12,760 --> 00:31:14,640
Speaker 13: I want to do a book, and I think like

670
00:31:14,720 --> 00:31:17,480
Speaker 13: me and you should do a book together. If you

671
00:31:17,520 --> 00:31:18,880
Speaker 13: want to do it, like, let me know, talk to

672
00:31:18,880 --> 00:31:20,720
Speaker 13: your wife, hit me back tomorrow. Don't call me today,

673
00:31:20,760 --> 00:31:23,080
Speaker 13: call me tomorrow. And so I talked to larrm Me

674
00:31:23,080 --> 00:31:24,800
Speaker 13: about it and she was like, yeah, you should do that.

675
00:31:24,880 --> 00:31:27,160
Speaker 13: So like that's how I got into the book thing.

676
00:31:27,200 --> 00:31:28,960
Speaker 13: It was like this guy wants to do a thing.

677
00:31:29,160 --> 00:31:32,280
Speaker 13: We started working together. We did the coloring book, and

678
00:31:32,320 --> 00:31:35,040
Speaker 13: then after we did that, it did it like sold

679
00:31:35,040 --> 00:31:37,440
Speaker 13: a decent amount of copies, not a ton, but a

680
00:31:37,480 --> 00:31:40,480
Speaker 13: decent amount, and so the publisher wanted to do another one.

681
00:31:40,520 --> 00:31:41,880
Speaker 13: I said, no, I don't want to be the fucking

682
00:31:41,960 --> 00:31:44,680
Speaker 13: coloring book guy. I want to do other stuff. And

683
00:31:44,760 --> 00:31:48,480
Speaker 13: so my editor there, my editor there, this woman named Samantha.

684
00:31:48,960 --> 00:31:50,960
Speaker 13: She said hey, I have this idea for this rap book.

685
00:31:51,000 --> 00:31:52,560
Speaker 13: I need somebody to write it. Do you want to do?

686
00:31:52,640 --> 00:31:54,960
Speaker 13: Is what eventually became the Rap year Book, And I

687
00:31:54,960 --> 00:31:57,000
Speaker 13: was like, yeah, I guess I'll do that. So that's

688
00:31:57,240 --> 00:32:00,120
Speaker 13: I did that, and then that one did really well.

689
00:32:00,200 --> 00:32:02,560
Speaker 13: That one made the bestseller list, and then once that happened,

690
00:32:02,960 --> 00:32:04,720
Speaker 13: everything sort of opened up and it was like, oh

691
00:32:04,760 --> 00:32:06,680
Speaker 13: you can, like you can make a living doing this,

692
00:32:07,400 --> 00:32:09,120
Speaker 13: and that's like a cool, you know, cool thing. I

693
00:32:09,160 --> 00:32:11,560
Speaker 13: got bills to pay, so again, it was just all

694
00:32:11,880 --> 00:32:14,400
Speaker 13: by accident, man, just sort of try and shit.

695
00:32:14,800 --> 00:32:17,480
Speaker 1: How long did it take you to believe that like

696
00:32:17,600 --> 00:32:19,160
Speaker 1: you could do you know what I mean, like you

697
00:32:19,160 --> 00:32:22,160
Speaker 1: have the success, Like did you feel like, okay, this

698
00:32:22,360 --> 00:32:25,360
Speaker 1: is going to disappear at some point? You know? Like

699
00:32:25,400 --> 00:32:26,959
Speaker 1: I mean, how long did it take you to be like,

700
00:32:27,680 --> 00:32:30,320
Speaker 1: oh shit, this like I can pitch things and people

701
00:32:30,360 --> 00:32:31,160
Speaker 1: will say yes.

702
00:32:33,040 --> 00:32:36,280
Speaker 13: It's still a little bit surprising, Honestly. It's really weird

703
00:32:36,320 --> 00:32:39,800
Speaker 13: to like get on a call and be like, oh, hey,

704
00:32:39,840 --> 00:32:41,640
Speaker 13: I'm Shay, I want to do it and they're like, yeah,

705
00:32:41,680 --> 00:32:43,080
Speaker 13: we know who you are, we love your stuff, Like

706
00:32:43,160 --> 00:32:45,280
Speaker 13: let's do a thing together. Like that's still a really

707
00:32:45,760 --> 00:32:49,040
Speaker 13: a really weird thing because for like the first seven

708
00:32:49,120 --> 00:32:52,320
Speaker 13: years of my career or whatever eight years, nobody was

709
00:32:52,360 --> 00:32:55,440
Speaker 13: returning emails or wanted to like do stuff with me.

710
00:32:56,720 --> 00:32:58,280
Speaker 2: So it's still it's still weird.

711
00:32:58,320 --> 00:33:00,200
Speaker 13: But I do feel at this point, after having been

712
00:33:00,240 --> 00:33:03,960
Speaker 13: in enough of these rooms, I don't feel like that

713
00:33:04,040 --> 00:33:07,240
Speaker 13: imposter syndrome thing anybody everybody talks about it anymore, because

714
00:33:07,240 --> 00:33:09,680
Speaker 13: what ended up happening is I got like into the

715
00:33:09,880 --> 00:33:12,160
Speaker 13: into the rooms that they let the authors in, or

716
00:33:12,200 --> 00:33:13,800
Speaker 13: into the rooms that they let like the people who

717
00:33:13,880 --> 00:33:16,480
Speaker 13: do TV or movie stuff, and then you you get

718
00:33:16,480 --> 00:33:18,240
Speaker 13: in there and you realize, like, oh, these are just

719
00:33:19,000 --> 00:33:20,480
Speaker 13: like I thought I was in I thought I was

720
00:33:20,520 --> 00:33:22,640
Speaker 13: an idiot and everybody else is smart, and it turns

721
00:33:22,640 --> 00:33:25,760
Speaker 13: out everybody's an idiot, and like three people are smart,

722
00:33:26,680 --> 00:33:28,840
Speaker 13: just three people, and everybody else is like, we don't

723
00:33:28,880 --> 00:33:31,040
Speaker 13: know what we're doing, so then oh, okay, cool, I'll

724
00:33:31,080 --> 00:33:32,520
Speaker 13: just I'm just gonna keep on trying.

725
00:33:33,640 --> 00:33:36,160
Speaker 6: You and our tour are kind of like metro booming

726
00:33:36,200 --> 00:33:38,720
Speaker 6: in twenty one Savage, you know what I mean, Like, look,

727
00:33:38,800 --> 00:33:39,280
Speaker 6: you feel is.

728
00:33:39,280 --> 00:33:44,320
Speaker 5: Important and y'all, hey, y'all, y'all have figured it out.

729
00:33:44,320 --> 00:33:45,320
Speaker 3: How did you find our tool?

730
00:33:45,360 --> 00:33:46,320
Speaker 5: How did y'all find each other?

731
00:33:46,960 --> 00:33:47,120
Speaker 8: Hey?

732
00:33:47,160 --> 00:33:51,240
Speaker 13: Look look, look that's twenty one set right there.

733
00:33:49,760 --> 00:33:55,880
Speaker 1: Oh, John's trying to get a quote on the back

734
00:33:55,920 --> 00:33:56,360
Speaker 1: of the book.

735
00:33:57,040 --> 00:34:01,320
Speaker 13: That's it. So they chop stars, these guys out of

736
00:34:01,320 --> 00:34:05,840
Speaker 13: Houston who like chop noste. Okay, they made They did

737
00:34:05,880 --> 00:34:07,960
Speaker 13: the twenty one Savage tape and I got it on

738
00:34:08,080 --> 00:34:11,880
Speaker 13: vinylin CD. It's fucking great, It's awesome. The way that

739
00:34:11,920 --> 00:34:14,440
Speaker 13: I met Arthuroa was again by accident. I was working

740
00:34:14,480 --> 00:34:17,920
Speaker 13: on the rap book I was originally when I when

741
00:34:17,960 --> 00:34:19,799
Speaker 13: we did the deal, I was supposed to illustrate the

742
00:34:19,840 --> 00:34:22,200
Speaker 13: whole thing because I had done the coloring book, and

743
00:34:23,120 --> 00:34:25,200
Speaker 13: they give you like a year to work on the book.

744
00:34:25,440 --> 00:34:27,960
Speaker 13: That's how I only told me I had I felt

745
00:34:27,960 --> 00:34:29,880
Speaker 13: like I could do it in three weeks because I

746
00:34:29,920 --> 00:34:31,440
Speaker 13: had never done a book, and I'm like, whatever I

747
00:34:31,480 --> 00:34:33,480
Speaker 13: did the first the two Champel chapters, I did those

748
00:34:33,520 --> 00:34:35,600
Speaker 13: in three days. I can write a bunch of whatever.

749
00:34:36,080 --> 00:34:38,160
Speaker 13: So I waited like eight or nine months to get started,

750
00:34:38,160 --> 00:34:39,719
Speaker 13: and then when I did, I realized I was not

751
00:34:39,760 --> 00:34:41,160
Speaker 13: going to be able to do everything. So I started

752
00:34:41,160 --> 00:34:44,760
Speaker 13: trying to find an illustrator and I just so happened

753
00:34:44,760 --> 00:34:48,400
Speaker 13: to come across a flyer that's this group out of Texas.

754
00:34:48,480 --> 00:34:52,200
Speaker 13: They're called the Outfit Texas. They're from Dallas, and they

755
00:34:52,239 --> 00:34:54,080
Speaker 13: had a flyer that they put out for some show

756
00:34:54,120 --> 00:34:56,200
Speaker 13: they were doing, and it had some illustrations on it,

757
00:34:56,239 --> 00:34:58,799
Speaker 13: and I was like, Oh, this is fucking cool. This

758
00:34:58,880 --> 00:35:01,160
Speaker 13: is exact style I'm looking for. I hit them up

759
00:35:01,160 --> 00:35:03,479
Speaker 13: because I had interviewed them for for MTV at some point,

760
00:35:03,520 --> 00:35:05,640
Speaker 13: and then they connected me to their manager, and then

761
00:35:05,680 --> 00:35:08,440
Speaker 13: she connected me to to ur Thuro and it turned

762
00:35:08,440 --> 00:35:10,520
Speaker 13: out he was like, at the time, just a baby,

763
00:35:10,600 --> 00:35:12,880
Speaker 13: like he wasn't twenty years old or twenty two or

764
00:35:12,920 --> 00:35:15,200
Speaker 13: something like that. And I'm like, hey, I don't have

765
00:35:15,360 --> 00:35:17,439
Speaker 13: I don't have a lot of money, but like, let's

766
00:35:17,480 --> 00:35:20,560
Speaker 13: do this book together. It's cool that you're like. I

767
00:35:20,560 --> 00:35:22,120
Speaker 13: didn't know what his name was, so I got him

768
00:35:22,160 --> 00:35:24,319
Speaker 13: on the phone. I heard him talking. I'm like, oh,

769
00:35:24,360 --> 00:35:26,719
Speaker 13: this is a fucking this is a Texas Mexican. I

770
00:35:26,760 --> 00:35:28,719
Speaker 13: can hear it in his voice. And I asked him

771
00:35:28,719 --> 00:35:30,720
Speaker 13: and then he told me, yeah, I'm in I'm in Dallas.

772
00:35:31,239 --> 00:35:33,600
Speaker 13: I'm like, this is perfect. Let's let's go make some

773
00:35:33,600 --> 00:35:36,239
Speaker 13: some cool shit and you know, thankfully, he said, yeah.

774
00:35:36,280 --> 00:35:38,360
Speaker 13: And then now we've done you know, a few a

775
00:35:38,360 --> 00:35:40,200
Speaker 13: few things together for sure, sir.

776
00:35:40,320 --> 00:35:42,279
Speaker 7: And you know, like John said, y'all definitely have that

777
00:35:42,360 --> 00:35:44,759
Speaker 7: aesthetic where I think of your work and I think

778
00:35:44,800 --> 00:35:46,160
Speaker 7: of his work, you know what I mean, Like that.

779
00:35:46,160 --> 00:35:46,919
Speaker 8: Shit is con joined.

780
00:35:47,000 --> 00:35:47,320
Speaker 3: Yeah.

781
00:35:47,360 --> 00:35:50,280
Speaker 7: So you know you've got hip hop and other things

782
00:35:50,320 --> 00:35:53,680
Speaker 7: coming up soon? Yes, yes, you know, congrats on that.

783
00:35:53,760 --> 00:35:55,480
Speaker 7: I'm such a fan of your fucking books. Then I

784
00:35:55,480 --> 00:35:57,680
Speaker 7: can't wait to read that. So I noticed the press

785
00:35:57,719 --> 00:35:59,799
Speaker 7: from But if you can just let us at over

786
00:35:59,880 --> 00:36:01,480
Speaker 7: me of what we can expect that is.

787
00:36:02,960 --> 00:36:05,040
Speaker 13: Here's what Here's what hip Hop and other Things is?

788
00:36:05,440 --> 00:36:07,759
Speaker 13: It is? It says it on the cover. It's a

789
00:36:07,800 --> 00:36:12,759
Speaker 13: collection of questions asked, answered and illustrated just about about rap.

790
00:36:12,800 --> 00:36:16,080
Speaker 13: And some of those questions are serious conversations, like versions

791
00:36:16,080 --> 00:36:19,640
Speaker 13: of conversations that you've probably had with your friends at

792
00:36:19,680 --> 00:36:22,040
Speaker 13: one point or another. Some of them are like kind of silly,

793
00:36:22,960 --> 00:36:25,160
Speaker 13: but it's in the same tone as like basketball and

794
00:36:25,200 --> 00:36:27,600
Speaker 13: other things, was movies and other things. When we came

795
00:36:27,680 --> 00:36:29,600
Speaker 13: up with this, we wanted to do it as a trilogy.

796
00:36:29,600 --> 00:36:32,200
Speaker 13: We wanted this to be like the big final piece.

797
00:36:32,280 --> 00:36:34,600
Speaker 13: Writing about rap is one of my very favorite things.

798
00:36:35,800 --> 00:36:38,440
Speaker 13: Rap and basketball are my two favorites. Music movies are

799
00:36:38,520 --> 00:36:40,920
Speaker 13: like in the middle. So we did that one second.

800
00:36:41,960 --> 00:36:44,640
Speaker 13: But that's that's what it is. It's a it's a

801
00:36:44,920 --> 00:36:48,319
Speaker 13: it's it's a real different than what the Rap year

802
00:36:48,320 --> 00:36:50,600
Speaker 13: Book was, just because I'm at a different point in

803
00:36:50,640 --> 00:36:52,279
Speaker 13: my career. When I did the Rap year Book, I

804
00:36:52,320 --> 00:36:54,560
Speaker 13: was like, I thought the point of writing was to

805
00:36:54,640 --> 00:36:57,800
Speaker 13: be like correct and and like this is the actual answer,

806
00:36:58,440 --> 00:37:00,560
Speaker 13: And then you realize that the further you get into it,

807
00:37:00,560 --> 00:37:02,520
Speaker 13: You're like, this is just fucking all this is is

808
00:37:02,520 --> 00:37:04,399
Speaker 13: people saying what they like or don't like, and there's

809
00:37:04,400 --> 00:37:07,440
Speaker 13: no right way. It doesn't it doesn't work like that.

810
00:37:07,640 --> 00:37:09,600
Speaker 13: So that's what this this one is. It's just like

811
00:37:10,360 --> 00:37:11,840
Speaker 13: celebrating all the ship that I like.

812
00:37:12,160 --> 00:37:17,360
Speaker 7: So yeah, and the Rap Yearbook, I love that ship too, bro, Like,

813
00:37:17,920 --> 00:37:20,319
Speaker 7: you know, you did not get anything wrong on that,

814
00:37:20,400 --> 00:37:22,480
Speaker 7: Like you know, don't diminish that that ship is amazing.

815
00:37:23,440 --> 00:37:26,120
Speaker 13: That was That was a fun book to do. If

816
00:37:26,120 --> 00:37:28,040
Speaker 13: I if I like did it again today, it would

817
00:37:28,040 --> 00:37:31,280
Speaker 13: be all different songs, every single song different.

818
00:37:31,760 --> 00:37:34,120
Speaker 7: Yeah, I feel like there's some songs that are just

819
00:37:34,200 --> 00:37:35,799
Speaker 7: undeniable for some years.

820
00:37:35,520 --> 00:37:38,000
Speaker 13: Like like like what though, like what grind.

821
00:37:37,880 --> 00:37:39,480
Speaker 8: In two thousand and two? That ship on two thousand

822
00:37:39,480 --> 00:37:40,520
Speaker 8: and two, you know what I mean?

823
00:37:40,960 --> 00:37:42,200
Speaker 13: All right from.

824
00:37:42,080 --> 00:37:46,760
Speaker 7: Virginia, but grinding with some ship where like you legit

825
00:37:46,880 --> 00:37:49,640
Speaker 7: never heard anything like that, Like you you were the

826
00:37:49,640 --> 00:37:50,080
Speaker 7: first time.

827
00:37:50,000 --> 00:37:53,080
Speaker 3: You heard rid, you know, but you're still from Virginia's.

828
00:37:52,880 --> 00:37:55,880
Speaker 13: Yeah see, but see right there, you could do like

829
00:37:56,320 --> 00:37:58,839
Speaker 13: whatever we could do, we could do. Get Low came

830
00:37:58,840 --> 00:38:01,160
Speaker 13: out that same year I Love John and Eastside Boyd

831
00:38:01,200 --> 00:38:03,799
Speaker 13: and that's like a whole other movement or a whole

832
00:38:03,800 --> 00:38:06,640
Speaker 13: other thing. You know, you could do, fucking Nelly, you

833
00:38:06,680 --> 00:38:07,560
Speaker 13: could do, you could do.

834
00:38:08,040 --> 00:38:08,480
Speaker 2: I don't know.

835
00:38:08,640 --> 00:38:11,000
Speaker 13: You can do without me by eminem if you want,

836
00:38:11,080 --> 00:38:11,640
Speaker 13: I wouldn't.

837
00:38:11,680 --> 00:38:13,759
Speaker 2: But there are there are other there are other points.

838
00:38:13,800 --> 00:38:16,680
Speaker 13: But that's but that's the thing, Like if you decide

839
00:38:16,760 --> 00:38:18,480
Speaker 13: you like a thing, you can just pick it and

840
00:38:18,680 --> 00:38:22,239
Speaker 13: argue it in whatever fashion you want. And that's really

841
00:38:22,280 --> 00:38:26,040
Speaker 13: all all anybody is looking for. And this stuff. I

842
00:38:26,040 --> 00:38:27,520
Speaker 13: think that's part of the reason that these things have

843
00:38:27,560 --> 00:38:30,640
Speaker 13: been successful, because it's very rarely are you going to

844
00:38:30,680 --> 00:38:32,359
Speaker 13: write a book and somebody's going to pick it up.

845
00:38:32,320 --> 00:38:34,799
Speaker 13: And be like, I agree with every single thing that

846
00:38:34,920 --> 00:38:37,040
Speaker 13: was in here. That but that's not like what most

847
00:38:37,080 --> 00:38:39,279
Speaker 13: people are looking for when they read a book. If

848
00:38:39,320 --> 00:38:41,200
Speaker 13: I were to write a chapter, this is not in

849
00:38:41,239 --> 00:38:43,120
Speaker 13: the wrap book the hip hop and other things. But

850
00:38:43,120 --> 00:38:45,319
Speaker 13: if I were to do like the best rappers of

851
00:38:45,320 --> 00:38:48,560
Speaker 13: all time, people don't care like what the actual list is.

852
00:38:49,200 --> 00:38:51,799
Speaker 13: Beyond what the list is, what they want to do

853
00:38:51,840 --> 00:38:53,360
Speaker 13: is they just want to see how you got to

854
00:38:53,400 --> 00:38:54,200
Speaker 13: that point.

855
00:38:54,440 --> 00:38:56,759
Speaker 2: So if I'm like, all right between the between the

856
00:38:56,920 --> 00:38:57,160
Speaker 2: all of.

857
00:38:57,239 --> 00:38:58,680
Speaker 13: Us on this podcast right now, we're going to figure

858
00:38:58,680 --> 00:39:00,600
Speaker 13: out who the greatest rapper of all time, and we're

859
00:39:00,600 --> 00:39:02,920
Speaker 13: gonna have some rules in place. Rule number one, you

860
00:39:02,960 --> 00:39:05,600
Speaker 13: have to have put out two albums while you were alive.

861
00:39:06,120 --> 00:39:07,479
Speaker 2: I need two albums. That's a rule.

862
00:39:07,800 --> 00:39:11,360
Speaker 13: Automatically, we're getting rid of Big and it's like that sucks.

863
00:39:11,640 --> 00:39:13,759
Speaker 13: Biggie probably is like a great answer for this. But

864
00:39:13,840 --> 00:39:16,640
Speaker 13: if that's a rule and everybody understands it, okay, I

865
00:39:16,719 --> 00:39:19,000
Speaker 13: see why we didn't get to pick Biggie, And like

866
00:39:19,040 --> 00:39:21,560
Speaker 13: the next one, the rapper has to have at some

867
00:39:21,640 --> 00:39:25,160
Speaker 13: point been like I don't know, sold X amount of

868
00:39:25,160 --> 00:39:27,160
Speaker 13: copies and then you can automatically get rid of those.

869
00:39:27,320 --> 00:39:29,279
Speaker 13: You know, they just want to see how you got

870
00:39:29,280 --> 00:39:30,880
Speaker 13: to where you got. Then we can argue about it

871
00:39:30,920 --> 00:39:35,200
Speaker 13: after that. But you know, that's just whatever you were.

872
00:39:35,239 --> 00:39:38,200
Speaker 5: You were like ten toes with the with the trump ship.

873
00:39:38,080 --> 00:39:42,560
Speaker 6: Like you like everybody online loves you, and you decided,

874
00:39:42,680 --> 00:39:44,520
Speaker 6: you know, like to go ahead to hey with some

875
00:39:44,600 --> 00:39:47,120
Speaker 6: of the worst human beings.

876
00:39:46,760 --> 00:39:49,360
Speaker 1: On the planet, some of the dumbest people.

877
00:39:49,200 --> 00:39:53,000
Speaker 5: Dumbest dully all of this shit.

878
00:39:53,120 --> 00:39:56,040
Speaker 6: You feel me, you could usual just sat there and

879
00:39:56,080 --> 00:39:58,799
Speaker 6: being like, you know, everybody loves me, Like you were

880
00:39:58,840 --> 00:40:01,359
Speaker 6: giving money back that people that spend on your.

881
00:40:01,280 --> 00:40:02,200
Speaker 3: Books, you know what I mean?

882
00:40:02,280 --> 00:40:06,600
Speaker 6: Like like, like what made you decide that? I mean

883
00:40:06,640 --> 00:40:08,360
Speaker 6: I can kind of guess that, but like also like

884
00:40:08,360 --> 00:40:10,879
Speaker 6: how did you manage that hate? You know, like because

885
00:40:10,920 --> 00:40:13,920
Speaker 6: they are relentless.

886
00:40:14,440 --> 00:40:17,719
Speaker 13: Yeah, they are relentless, And it is like it's not

887
00:40:17,800 --> 00:40:20,320
Speaker 13: that much fun to read these terrible things that people

888
00:40:20,360 --> 00:40:23,560
Speaker 13: will we'll send you on the internet. But it's way

889
00:40:23,640 --> 00:40:26,520
Speaker 13: different reading something like that when you know it's coming

890
00:40:26,560 --> 00:40:30,120
Speaker 13: from a bad person. It's very easy to disregard, right,

891
00:40:30,160 --> 00:40:33,200
Speaker 13: Like if if I see a criticism of something I've

892
00:40:33,239 --> 00:40:36,279
Speaker 13: written on the internet or something I've said and it's

893
00:40:36,320 --> 00:40:40,160
Speaker 13: from somebody who I know or respect, or even if

894
00:40:40,440 --> 00:40:42,239
Speaker 13: I don't know what to respect them. But the thing

895
00:40:42,280 --> 00:40:46,280
Speaker 13: that they've said came from a place that was undeniable,

896
00:40:46,840 --> 00:40:49,200
Speaker 13: like when I did basketball and other things. It's a

897
00:40:49,200 --> 00:40:50,040
Speaker 13: perfect example.

898
00:40:51,080 --> 00:40:52,799
Speaker 2: A bunch of people said they didn't like whatever part

899
00:40:52,840 --> 00:40:53,160
Speaker 2: about it.

900
00:40:53,160 --> 00:40:55,880
Speaker 13: I just got a DM like the other day or

901
00:40:56,160 --> 00:40:58,480
Speaker 13: an email from some guy who is mad that I

902
00:40:58,560 --> 00:41:02,960
Speaker 13: put Sean Kim and Gary Payton as the greatest like

903
00:41:03,040 --> 00:41:06,439
Speaker 13: NBA duo ever, right, and so he was like mad

904
00:41:06,440 --> 00:41:08,759
Speaker 13: about that. I can't believe you did that. And it

905
00:41:08,840 --> 00:41:13,440
Speaker 13: was like whatever, cool, keep it moving. But another criticism

906
00:41:13,480 --> 00:41:15,560
Speaker 13: that I got early on when the book came out

907
00:41:15,600 --> 00:41:18,200
Speaker 13: was from this woman name named Natalie Weiner, and she

908
00:41:18,280 --> 00:41:20,880
Speaker 13: was like, hey, you called this book basketball and other things.

909
00:41:21,560 --> 00:41:24,200
Speaker 13: And the implication here because you only have men in

910
00:41:24,200 --> 00:41:26,839
Speaker 13: the book, is that only men play basketball. And when

911
00:41:26,840 --> 00:41:29,920
Speaker 13: I read that, I was like, oh, like that, okay,

912
00:41:29,960 --> 00:41:32,520
Speaker 13: I understand that. Like that, it's different reading something like

913
00:41:32,560 --> 00:41:35,560
Speaker 13: that because she was one hundred percent correct, I'm like, okay, cool,

914
00:41:35,840 --> 00:41:37,600
Speaker 13: what changes do I need to make here? Like reading

915
00:41:37,600 --> 00:41:40,960
Speaker 13: something like that is a little more difficult then, Like

916
00:41:41,040 --> 00:41:42,760
Speaker 13: if somebody is just like oh, I hope your family

917
00:41:42,760 --> 00:41:45,840
Speaker 13: gets deported back to Mexico or whatever. Because one is

918
00:41:45,880 --> 00:41:48,080
Speaker 13: coming from a person who is a who is like

919
00:41:48,480 --> 00:41:52,319
Speaker 13: a genuine interest in advancing a conversation, and the other

920
00:41:52,360 --> 00:41:54,600
Speaker 13: one is coming from like a fucking idiot who just

921
00:41:54,640 --> 00:41:57,080
Speaker 13: wants to say some mean things on the internet. So

922
00:41:57,080 --> 00:41:59,400
Speaker 13: it's like, pretty you know, it's not that hard to

923
00:41:59,480 --> 00:42:00,319
Speaker 13: separate the too.

924
00:42:00,360 --> 00:42:03,800
Speaker 2: It doesn't. It's not fun, but it's easier to you know, yeah.

925
00:42:03,680 --> 00:42:06,840
Speaker 7: It's very easy to distinguish, you know, who's seeking understanding

926
00:42:06,880 --> 00:42:08,520
Speaker 7: and who's seeking a fight on the internet, you know

927
00:42:08,560 --> 00:42:08,960
Speaker 7: what I mean.

928
00:42:09,400 --> 00:42:12,200
Speaker 13: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, you can. You can always tell.

929
00:42:12,480 --> 00:42:13,919
Speaker 13: It's like what are we doing here?

930
00:42:14,160 --> 00:42:14,759
Speaker 2: What are we doing?

931
00:42:14,800 --> 00:42:17,640
Speaker 13: And if the conversation is like do do say something

932
00:42:17,719 --> 00:42:21,120
Speaker 13: or don't say something? It to me you always have

933
00:42:21,200 --> 00:42:23,000
Speaker 13: to say something anything, you know.

934
00:42:23,280 --> 00:42:26,480
Speaker 1: I did want to ask you about the compromise of that, though,

935
00:42:26,680 --> 00:42:28,400
Speaker 1: because I think one of the reasons a lot of

936
00:42:28,400 --> 00:42:30,320
Speaker 1: people have connected with one of the reasons I've connected

937
00:42:30,360 --> 00:42:32,960
Speaker 1: with you is you're a dude who comes from you know,

938
00:42:33,040 --> 00:42:36,040
Speaker 1: humble backgrounds. You weren't like, you didn't graduate from the

939
00:42:36,160 --> 00:42:39,520
Speaker 1: University of Iowa fucking MFA program. Or something into writing

940
00:42:39,600 --> 00:42:43,520
Speaker 1: best sellers, And I feel like that puts a little

941
00:42:43,560 --> 00:42:46,000
Speaker 1: bit of a different pressure on your career, right. You

942
00:42:46,040 --> 00:42:49,120
Speaker 1: talked about that you started writing because Laramie was pregnant.

943
00:42:49,200 --> 00:42:51,240
Speaker 1: You're trying to make sure you guys had enough money.

944
00:42:52,440 --> 00:42:55,680
Speaker 1: So did you feel extra pressure maybe not just around

945
00:42:55,719 --> 00:42:57,759
Speaker 1: the Trump thing, because that's a pretty easy line in

946
00:42:57,760 --> 00:43:00,520
Speaker 1: the sand to draw, but around any kind of compromises

947
00:43:00,560 --> 00:43:04,319
Speaker 1: in your career, Like it means more to go back to,

948
00:43:05,000 --> 00:43:08,120
Speaker 1: you know, being being a middle school teacher or whatever

949
00:43:08,600 --> 00:43:10,480
Speaker 1: than if it's just like, oh, I'm gonna be on

950
00:43:10,719 --> 00:43:13,520
Speaker 1: ABC instead of NBC because my you know, dad was

951
00:43:13,520 --> 00:43:15,480
Speaker 1: on the network before or whatever. Like, like, how did

952
00:43:15,480 --> 00:43:17,839
Speaker 1: you kind of balance that as you were moving through

953
00:43:17,880 --> 00:43:19,440
Speaker 1: your career up to this point.

954
00:43:20,200 --> 00:43:22,520
Speaker 13: I didn't. I didn't think too much of it because,

955
00:43:23,560 --> 00:43:26,439
Speaker 13: like we had, I had already been poor. I grew

956
00:43:26,600 --> 00:43:29,200
Speaker 13: up that way, We lived that way for a long time.

957
00:43:29,760 --> 00:43:32,719
Speaker 13: I didn't not get poor until like twenty fifteen or

958
00:43:32,760 --> 00:43:35,040
Speaker 13: something like that. Twenty sixteen somewhere around there was when

959
00:43:35,080 --> 00:43:39,000
Speaker 13: we started making actual money. So to go back to it, like, Okay,

960
00:43:39,080 --> 00:43:41,520
Speaker 13: I'm just back to where I where I was before,

961
00:43:41,640 --> 00:43:42,560
Speaker 13: It's not it's.

962
00:43:42,440 --> 00:43:43,080
Speaker 2: Not that hard.

963
00:43:43,200 --> 00:43:45,719
Speaker 13: You know, if you've you've already been through the thing.

964
00:43:45,800 --> 00:43:49,240
Speaker 13: All right, cool, I'll be whatever. I've done this before

965
00:43:49,280 --> 00:43:53,080
Speaker 13: and we were fine. That being said, I don't ever

966
00:43:53,120 --> 00:43:56,800
Speaker 13: want to be poor. It's fucking it's terrible compared compared

967
00:43:56,840 --> 00:43:59,399
Speaker 13: to having money. Oh man, it's a way, it's way better.

968
00:44:00,600 --> 00:44:01,279
Speaker 2: This is the way better.

969
00:44:01,320 --> 00:44:03,080
Speaker 1: You just gave a perfect answer to that question. I

970
00:44:03,120 --> 00:44:04,400
Speaker 1: don't want to fuck it up, but I'm going to

971
00:44:04,440 --> 00:44:06,800
Speaker 1: ask you on a personal level, like it did having kids.

972
00:44:06,840 --> 00:44:08,440
Speaker 1: I mean, do you kids change that? I mean I

973
00:44:08,800 --> 00:44:11,799
Speaker 1: was never worried about being poor. I told my wife, like,

974
00:44:11,840 --> 00:44:12,719
Speaker 1: that's almost a plan.

975
00:44:13,120 --> 00:44:13,319
Speaker 8: You know.

976
00:44:13,360 --> 00:44:15,840
Speaker 1: I want to have a job that I like, but

977
00:44:15,960 --> 00:44:17,760
Speaker 1: it's probably not going to bring a lot of money.

978
00:44:17,760 --> 00:44:20,280
Speaker 1: But when we had our son, all of a sudden,

979
00:44:20,320 --> 00:44:21,880
Speaker 1: now I'm like, okay, but I don't want him to

980
00:44:21,880 --> 00:44:23,520
Speaker 1: go through some of the things that I went through,

981
00:44:23,640 --> 00:44:25,160
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, you think about it differently

982
00:44:25,160 --> 00:44:27,600
Speaker 1: as a father versus just a husband or a writer

983
00:44:27,680 --> 00:44:28,080
Speaker 1: or whatever.

984
00:44:29,360 --> 00:44:33,560
Speaker 13: Yeah, that definitely changes everything because you realize all like,

985
00:44:33,840 --> 00:44:36,400
Speaker 13: that's when you start taking stock of all of the

986
00:44:36,400 --> 00:44:39,120
Speaker 13: things that could have been different in your life if

987
00:44:39,120 --> 00:44:41,719
Speaker 13: you had like grown up in a different house, you

988
00:44:41,800 --> 00:44:43,120
Speaker 13: know what I'm saying, Or if I lived in a

989
00:44:43,160 --> 00:44:45,960
Speaker 13: different neighborhood, if my if I wasn't like in a

990
00:44:45,960 --> 00:44:50,239
Speaker 13: spot where everybody was on food stamps or whatever, like

991
00:44:51,200 --> 00:44:52,560
Speaker 13: oh one, it was like to live in a house

992
00:44:52,560 --> 00:44:54,680
Speaker 13: without burglar bars like that type of shit. You know,

993
00:44:55,920 --> 00:44:58,880
Speaker 13: once you have kids and you realize, you realize number one,

994
00:44:58,880 --> 00:45:01,560
Speaker 13: that the world is not a fair place. It doesn't

995
00:45:01,560 --> 00:45:03,440
Speaker 13: matter like how much we all fight for it, it's

996
00:45:03,440 --> 00:45:05,280
Speaker 13: not going to be that while any of us are alive.

997
00:45:06,080 --> 00:45:08,480
Speaker 13: Everybody's just trying to get like whatever advantage they can.

998
00:45:09,000 --> 00:45:11,319
Speaker 13: And it's my job as a dad, because you know,

999
00:45:11,400 --> 00:45:14,920
Speaker 13: I owe a responsibility to the to the boys, to

1000
00:45:14,920 --> 00:45:18,040
Speaker 13: to my wife as like the father and the husband

1001
00:45:18,040 --> 00:45:20,360
Speaker 13: in the house, to tilt as much stuff as I

1002
00:45:20,400 --> 00:45:23,759
Speaker 13: can in their favor. And so that's that. You know

1003
00:45:23,840 --> 00:45:26,920
Speaker 13: that when they show up, that pressure definitely comes comes

1004
00:45:26,920 --> 00:45:29,920
Speaker 13: into place. But again we had already been through the

1005
00:45:29,960 --> 00:45:32,520
Speaker 13: bad part, so it was like, not that big of.

1006
00:45:32,440 --> 00:45:36,160
Speaker 11: A thing, that's a bar tilting as much as you

1007
00:45:36,280 --> 00:45:40,560
Speaker 11: can in their favor like that. That's a different way

1008
00:45:40,600 --> 00:45:43,200
Speaker 11: of thinking like that that that blew my mind right there.

1009
00:45:43,239 --> 00:45:46,080
Speaker 3: But your your your goals.

1010
00:45:45,480 --> 00:45:47,279
Speaker 5: For a lot of people, like you're the blueprint for

1011
00:45:47,320 --> 00:45:49,359
Speaker 5: a lot of people. Right, Like if you were a car,

1012
00:45:49,400 --> 00:45:50,480
Speaker 5: people like I want that car.

1013
00:45:50,480 --> 00:45:52,120
Speaker 10: When you passed by, our kids would say that shit,

1014
00:45:52,200 --> 00:45:52,400
Speaker 10: you know.

1015
00:45:54,760 --> 00:45:57,000
Speaker 6: Like what advice would you give, like to to people

1016
00:45:57,000 --> 00:45:58,759
Speaker 6: that are looking at you and like looking at you

1017
00:45:58,800 --> 00:46:00,600
Speaker 6: as goals, Like what are some things that you know

1018
00:46:00,640 --> 00:46:01,719
Speaker 6: helps you out along the way?

1019
00:46:02,760 --> 00:46:05,280
Speaker 13: You know what I think? First of all, I would

1020
00:46:05,440 --> 00:46:09,440
Speaker 13: say to somebody that that's always a dangerous spot to

1021
00:46:09,480 --> 00:46:11,879
Speaker 13: put yourself in, or a triggy spot to look at

1022
00:46:11,880 --> 00:46:14,600
Speaker 13: what somebody is doing on the Internet and being like, oh,

1023
00:46:15,040 --> 00:46:17,400
Speaker 13: that's what I want, because everybody is only showing the

1024
00:46:17,440 --> 00:46:19,759
Speaker 13: stuff on the Internet that they want to show. You know,

1025
00:46:20,000 --> 00:46:22,640
Speaker 13: bad shit happens all the time. Personal shit happens all

1026
00:46:22,680 --> 00:46:25,640
Speaker 13: the time. I'm not talking about the bad stuff that happens, like,

1027
00:46:26,200 --> 00:46:28,520
Speaker 13: you know, if somebody gets sick or like you're dealing

1028
00:46:28,520 --> 00:46:31,880
Speaker 13: with with with whatever, like traumas you might be dealing

1029
00:46:31,920 --> 00:46:35,200
Speaker 13: with in whatever way you're dealing with them, Like it's

1030
00:46:35,239 --> 00:46:38,600
Speaker 13: really it's it's it's really hard to to look across

1031
00:46:38,600 --> 00:46:41,000
Speaker 13: the internet and everybody's just sort of celebrating all the

1032
00:46:41,040 --> 00:46:43,239
Speaker 13: stuff that's happening for them and to not feel a

1033
00:46:43,280 --> 00:46:45,040
Speaker 13: little bit shitty about it. Like I've had those same

1034
00:46:45,080 --> 00:46:47,200
Speaker 13: feelings when I see if I'm on Twitter and like

1035
00:46:47,239 --> 00:46:49,719
Speaker 13: four or five things in a row come up some

1036
00:46:49,760 --> 00:46:52,000
Speaker 13: cool shit was happening for people, and I'm like, oh man,

1037
00:46:52,040 --> 00:46:54,759
Speaker 13: that's that's that's awesome, And I'm like, oh wait, but

1038
00:46:54,840 --> 00:46:56,640
Speaker 13: that means wait, what did I do? You know what

1039
00:46:56,680 --> 00:47:00,320
Speaker 13: I'm saying, Like, it's a weird spot to be in.

1040
00:47:00,520 --> 00:47:03,000
Speaker 13: So usually I just tell people, you know, try to

1041
00:47:03,120 --> 00:47:04,759
Speaker 13: be be aware of that because this is all just

1042
00:47:04,800 --> 00:47:07,400
Speaker 13: like a highlight reel of the ship that that were

1043
00:47:07,680 --> 00:47:12,760
Speaker 13: that were celebrating. But beyond that, like just I guess

1044
00:47:12,840 --> 00:47:14,440
Speaker 13: just trying to chase down the stuff that you like

1045
00:47:14,560 --> 00:47:16,640
Speaker 13: or the stuff that you do like, if you really

1046
00:47:16,800 --> 00:47:20,760
Speaker 13: go after it, that's the only part of the process

1047
00:47:20,760 --> 00:47:23,239
Speaker 13: that you can control that you can't control of like

1048
00:47:23,320 --> 00:47:26,880
Speaker 13: you get it or not. But if you tried, that's

1049
00:47:27,239 --> 00:47:29,400
Speaker 13: that then you feel usually feel good about it, you

1050
00:47:29,400 --> 00:47:29,879
Speaker 13: know what I'm saying.

1051
00:47:32,400 --> 00:47:37,359
Speaker 7: So yeah, I mean i feel like I'm in right now, like.

1052
00:47:38,880 --> 00:47:40,319
Speaker 8: With me bro, Yeah, that was.

1053
00:47:42,440 --> 00:47:47,040
Speaker 6: That bar about tilting, like tilting things in the in

1054
00:47:47,080 --> 00:47:48,879
Speaker 6: the way in the favor of your family, Like that's

1055
00:47:48,920 --> 00:47:49,399
Speaker 6: your job.

1056
00:47:49,480 --> 00:47:50,680
Speaker 3: That shit fucked me up.

1057
00:47:52,080 --> 00:47:55,400
Speaker 13: Yeah, that's like, that's that's a real thing, like and

1058
00:47:55,480 --> 00:47:58,400
Speaker 13: everybody has versions of that. What my mom when I

1059
00:47:58,440 --> 00:48:01,000
Speaker 13: was growing up in all through like her whole life.

1060
00:48:01,400 --> 00:48:04,040
Speaker 13: She because she had me so young, she was a teenager,

1061
00:48:04,080 --> 00:48:05,279
Speaker 13: she had to drop out of school. So she just

1062
00:48:05,320 --> 00:48:07,320
Speaker 13: started working with whatever job she could. But she started

1063
00:48:07,320 --> 00:48:09,680
Speaker 13: working at a corner store and she worked there for

1064
00:48:10,040 --> 00:48:12,759
Speaker 13: thirty plus years. I got a stop and go type thing,

1065
00:48:13,160 --> 00:48:16,320
Speaker 13: and that was her job, you know, do making seven

1066
00:48:16,400 --> 00:48:19,920
Speaker 13: dollars an hour or whatever it was, for however long

1067
00:48:19,920 --> 00:48:23,000
Speaker 13: it was. But when I turned sixteen, she was like, Hey,

1068
00:48:23,040 --> 00:48:25,200
Speaker 13: do you want to work at this corner store that

1069
00:48:25,200 --> 00:48:27,320
Speaker 13: I work at because you can like stock the cooler

1070
00:48:27,360 --> 00:48:30,239
Speaker 13: and like I had a job automatically because she was

1071
00:48:30,719 --> 00:48:32,880
Speaker 13: she was there, and so I was like, oh, cool,

1072
00:48:32,880 --> 00:48:34,400
Speaker 13: I don't have to worry about like that part of it.

1073
00:48:34,440 --> 00:48:37,440
Speaker 13: I'm gonna go take this job whatever. But then you

1074
00:48:37,480 --> 00:48:39,480
Speaker 13: like do that, and then you realize when you get older,

1075
00:48:39,960 --> 00:48:41,840
Speaker 13: like the rich people are doing that but in a

1076
00:48:41,920 --> 00:48:44,959
Speaker 13: much bigger or more substantial sort of way.

1077
00:48:45,000 --> 00:48:47,799
Speaker 1: CBS broadcasting job, not the corner store.

1078
00:48:48,920 --> 00:48:50,759
Speaker 13: Not like do you want to step into this seven

1079
00:48:50,880 --> 00:48:52,439
Speaker 13: twenty five an hour? But do you want to step

1080
00:48:52,480 --> 00:48:54,480
Speaker 13: into like do you want to graduate college and have

1081
00:48:54,560 --> 00:48:58,040
Speaker 13: one hundred thousand dollars a year job automatically? Like that

1082
00:48:58,080 --> 00:49:01,200
Speaker 13: would be awesome. I can't wait for my kids to graduate,

1083
00:49:01,360 --> 00:49:06,680
Speaker 13: and and I just like, and there's just nepotility. I'm like, yeah,

1084
00:49:06,760 --> 00:49:09,839
Speaker 13: come on, come on, son, come on, come on, get

1085
00:49:09,840 --> 00:49:12,680
Speaker 13: in here, get in here, be in my publishing company.

1086
00:49:12,719 --> 00:49:13,359
Speaker 8: Work here.

1087
00:49:13,440 --> 00:49:15,120
Speaker 2: You don't have to do anything. I'm just gonna pay you.

1088
00:49:15,120 --> 00:49:15,279
Speaker 3: You know.

1089
00:49:15,719 --> 00:49:17,960
Speaker 13: That's like my that's like my dream right there.

1090
00:49:18,840 --> 00:49:21,400
Speaker 5: So we have these questions that we asked everybody.

1091
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Speaker 6: We've been arguing over these things for the eternity not

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Speaker 6: eternity just since Jones started.

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Speaker 1: There's a lot of pressure, a lot of pressure right now.

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Speaker 10: Okay, my yeah, there's one particular question that Mike is

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00:49:32,600 --> 00:49:38,480
Speaker 10: really attached to. But anyway, what is more important in

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00:49:38,600 --> 00:49:40,280
Speaker 10: a peanut butter and jelly sandwich?

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Speaker 13: Peanut butter, peanut butter, peanut butter, that's not even close.

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00:49:48,320 --> 00:49:50,600
Speaker 3: After real wood coming in a.

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00:49:52,480 --> 00:49:53,760
Speaker 1: Jelly fan on the ropes.

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Speaker 7: Now to take a page out of you, but Shay,

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00:49:56,760 --> 00:50:00,000
Speaker 7: I want to know how you arrived there.

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00:50:00,440 --> 00:50:03,960
Speaker 13: Here's how that's that's great because I do have a like,

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00:50:04,000 --> 00:50:05,719
Speaker 13: there's a path that we get there. The way that

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00:50:05,760 --> 00:50:09,919
Speaker 13: we arrive there is because number one, jelly, peanut butter

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00:50:10,080 --> 00:50:14,799
Speaker 13: is just a better like compliment to anything really Like,

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00:50:14,840 --> 00:50:16,880
Speaker 13: It's not like, it's not that nobody's like, oh, you

1107
00:50:16,920 --> 00:50:20,120
Speaker 13: know what's really good together chocolate and jelly, there's Jelly

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00:50:20,200 --> 00:50:22,400
Speaker 13: is never the answer for that, for that question, peanut

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00:50:22,440 --> 00:50:24,600
Speaker 13: butter is like the good stuff and the thing. So

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Speaker 13: I'm a big fan of peanut butter. Also, you can't

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00:50:26,560 --> 00:50:30,080
Speaker 13: eat a jelly sandwich like just by itself, you'll fucking

1112
00:50:30,160 --> 00:50:33,920
Speaker 13: go into diabetic shock if you eat just jelly. You

1113
00:50:33,920 --> 00:50:36,520
Speaker 13: can always just eat peanut butter. Peanut butter is a

1114
00:50:36,520 --> 00:50:40,120
Speaker 13: more important part. Peanut butter is like the substantial part

1115
00:50:40,320 --> 00:50:41,120
Speaker 13: of the of.

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00:50:41,040 --> 00:50:43,319
Speaker 1: The All I will add is that both Tyler and

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00:50:43,400 --> 00:50:46,920
Speaker 1: I also like peanut butter more than jelly. I just

1118
00:50:47,000 --> 00:50:51,360
Speaker 1: feel you also cannot eat a peanut butter sandwich or

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00:50:51,400 --> 00:50:54,040
Speaker 1: you will choke to death. And so I feel like

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Speaker 1: the jelly like you need less of the jelly, and

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00:50:56,480 --> 00:50:58,720
Speaker 1: I feel like that means its value is greater.

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00:50:59,520 --> 00:51:02,680
Speaker 13: I disa that's like that's like if if, if we're

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00:51:02,719 --> 00:51:06,360
Speaker 13: like the Lakers and whatever, a guy plays seven minutes,

1124
00:51:06,360 --> 00:51:08,040
Speaker 13: so we only needed him for seven minutes. He's more

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00:51:08,080 --> 00:51:12,239
Speaker 13: valuable than the bron Absolutely not. No, the peanut butter

1126
00:51:12,320 --> 00:51:13,279
Speaker 13: is doing most of the work here.

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00:51:13,680 --> 00:51:16,799
Speaker 7: I feel like not viewing jelly on a biscuit as

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00:51:16,840 --> 00:51:21,200
Speaker 7: a jelly sandwich is a disqualifier here, and I'm not

1129
00:51:21,280 --> 00:51:23,160
Speaker 7: standing for it anymore because you have to tell me

1130
00:51:23,200 --> 00:51:25,440
Speaker 7: how that is not a jelly sandwich and that is

1131
00:51:25,480 --> 00:51:27,000
Speaker 7: a delicious jelly sandwich.

1132
00:51:27,440 --> 00:51:28,719
Speaker 3: It's a biscuit with jelly.

1133
00:51:28,840 --> 00:51:31,560
Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, again, the biscuit is.

1134
00:51:31,920 --> 00:51:33,279
Speaker 8: Put some peanut butter on a biscuit, then.

1135
00:51:35,080 --> 00:51:38,160
Speaker 5: Nolly on a banana.

1136
00:51:38,239 --> 00:51:38,680
Speaker 3: Like you can't.

1137
00:51:38,680 --> 00:51:41,319
Speaker 5: That doesn't work that way, bro, Like it doesn't put

1138
00:51:41,400 --> 00:51:42,200
Speaker 5: your No.

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00:51:42,200 --> 00:51:54,360
Speaker 7: No, a biscuit is sandwich Adjacenter, butter biscuits live. A

1140
00:51:54,400 --> 00:51:56,440
Speaker 7: biscuit is sandwich ad Jason. And we are keeping this

1141
00:51:56,520 --> 00:51:58,959
Speaker 7: in the realm of sandwiches. We're not talking about putting

1142
00:51:59,000 --> 00:52:01,040
Speaker 7: peanut butter on bananas. We're talking about it as a

1143
00:52:01,080 --> 00:52:02,000
Speaker 7: spread on a bread.

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00:52:02,040 --> 00:52:06,279
Speaker 13: I no, No, those are those are different things. It's

1145
00:52:06,280 --> 00:52:07,359
Speaker 13: a whole different bread.

1146
00:52:07,800 --> 00:52:09,280
Speaker 8: It's still breading type of bread.

1147
00:52:09,560 --> 00:52:14,040
Speaker 13: Nobody calls it's not hey, bring me that bread. And

1148
00:52:14,080 --> 00:52:15,320
Speaker 13: someone gives you a biscuit.

1149
00:52:16,680 --> 00:52:18,279
Speaker 2: Birds a different thing.

1150
00:52:19,800 --> 00:52:20,560
Speaker 3: It's a sausage.

1151
00:52:20,640 --> 00:52:24,880
Speaker 2: They both No, it's a sausage.

1152
00:52:25,600 --> 00:52:26,759
Speaker 8: It's bread and meat.

1153
00:52:26,920 --> 00:52:27,960
Speaker 2: Because it's not bread.

1154
00:52:28,040 --> 00:52:33,719
Speaker 13: You need the bread same way.

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00:52:31,640 --> 00:52:35,640
Speaker 1: It's at The jelly argument is like the we're like

1156
00:52:35,680 --> 00:52:38,319
Speaker 1: the polar bear, like three quarters of the way through

1157
00:52:38,360 --> 00:52:42,040
Speaker 1: global warming, like we are on a like our biscuits

1158
00:52:42,400 --> 00:52:45,480
Speaker 1: and sausages sandwiches is an island that we were not

1159
00:52:45,560 --> 00:52:46,520
Speaker 1: meant to live.

1160
00:52:46,320 --> 00:52:51,320
Speaker 6: On, floating away on the ice cap that broke away

1161
00:52:51,360 --> 00:52:52,080
Speaker 6: from Antarctica.

1162
00:52:52,480 --> 00:52:56,640
Speaker 1: That's food sources like this is it's a runner else

1163
00:52:56,680 --> 00:53:00,520
Speaker 1: because it's like shay Zach fox, do you a marrow

1164
00:53:00,520 --> 00:53:00,960
Speaker 1: on your side?

1165
00:53:01,080 --> 00:53:03,520
Speaker 3: Arrows on my side? To like it? It ain't looking sweet

1166
00:53:03,560 --> 00:53:07,520
Speaker 3: for y'all anyway, bruise. This is the next question.

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00:53:07,600 --> 00:53:09,960
Speaker 5: This is this is another one as well.

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00:53:11,920 --> 00:53:16,359
Speaker 6: Last question rat verse squirrel, Which would you want on

1169
00:53:16,400 --> 00:53:19,160
Speaker 6: your team?

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00:53:19,200 --> 00:53:22,640
Speaker 2: A rat? Oh my god, a rat?

1171
00:53:22,680 --> 00:53:24,000
Speaker 8: You need a rat, y'all?

1172
00:53:25,800 --> 00:53:31,520
Speaker 13: Yeah, fucking we need splinter. Squirrels aren't tough. Squirrelss aren't tough.

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00:53:31,560 --> 00:53:35,279
Speaker 13: Nobody's like, look at that mean looking squirrel. No, there's

1174
00:53:35,360 --> 00:53:37,719
Speaker 13: no squirrel in New York that everybody's going crazy for.

1175
00:53:37,920 --> 00:53:41,359
Speaker 13: It's fucking pizza rat or knife rat or whatever it is.

1176
00:53:41,360 --> 00:53:44,239
Speaker 13: Like if we're talking about a fight, not like who.

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00:53:44,560 --> 00:53:46,200
Speaker 13: I would much rather hang out with a squirrel. I'd

1178
00:53:46,239 --> 00:53:48,080
Speaker 13: much rather be friends with a squirrel. But if I'm

1179
00:53:48,080 --> 00:53:50,440
Speaker 13: going to get in a fight and I got a

1180
00:53:50,480 --> 00:53:52,560
Speaker 13: phone that only allows me to make one phone call,

1181
00:53:52,880 --> 00:53:55,319
Speaker 13: who am I gonna call? I gotta I gotta call

1182
00:53:55,360 --> 00:53:58,800
Speaker 13: it rat.

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00:53:57,280 --> 00:53:59,000
Speaker 7: If I needed a motherfucker to help fight me out

1184
00:53:59,040 --> 00:54:02,080
Speaker 7: some ship. Talking about athletes.

1185
00:54:02,160 --> 00:54:04,480
Speaker 1: Miss John misasked a question. By the way, I thought

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00:54:04,520 --> 00:54:06,760
Speaker 1: I was on Team Rat. John, No, you aren't.

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00:54:06,760 --> 00:54:09,640
Speaker 5: First off, Mike, we gotta get something straight too. I

1188
00:54:09,760 --> 00:54:11,200
Speaker 5: actually saw the squirrel die.

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00:54:12,120 --> 00:54:14,840
Speaker 6: Adrian listened to the podcast and said, I know that

1190
00:54:14,920 --> 00:54:17,760
Speaker 6: happened because I was there. So I saw the squirrel

1191
00:54:18,080 --> 00:54:21,360
Speaker 6: run across the street, get confused, have a heart attack.

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00:54:22,160 --> 00:54:25,279
Speaker 1: That happen because because they yeah, they literally if a

1193
00:54:25,320 --> 00:54:27,799
Speaker 1: squirrel sees a car running to it, his heart explodes

1194
00:54:27,840 --> 00:54:29,759
Speaker 1: and it dies. That's why I was on Team Rat.

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00:54:29,800 --> 00:54:31,560
Speaker 1: But the question was not who do you want to

1196
00:54:31,600 --> 00:54:33,480
Speaker 1: hang out with the question was which one's.

1197
00:54:33,280 --> 00:54:34,440
Speaker 3: More athletic.

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00:54:35,560 --> 00:54:38,600
Speaker 13: Oh, the words athletic never came out of John.

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Speaker 8: You said, who would you want on your team? You

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00:54:40,600 --> 00:54:41,640
Speaker 8: didn't say anything about it.

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00:54:42,280 --> 00:54:44,960
Speaker 1: So we're talking about furious.

1202
00:54:45,080 --> 00:54:48,719
Speaker 13: I automatically, I automatically went to fight. I automatically like the.

1203
00:54:48,719 --> 00:54:54,399
Speaker 6: Football team, basketball team, you know, like quarterback, receiver, running back,

1204
00:54:54,440 --> 00:54:55,000
Speaker 6: all these things.

1205
00:54:55,000 --> 00:54:55,480
Speaker 3: You know what I mean?

1206
00:54:56,800 --> 00:54:59,560
Speaker 13: Do I get a specific rat or a specific scrorelers

1207
00:54:59,560 --> 00:55:00,480
Speaker 13: this and general?

1208
00:55:00,520 --> 00:55:01,960
Speaker 3: It's up to you.

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00:55:01,480 --> 00:55:02,360
Speaker 8: It's you.

1210
00:55:02,360 --> 00:55:04,400
Speaker 1: We've allowed that to be open to interpretation.

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00:55:05,920 --> 00:55:07,160
Speaker 13: All right, Well, then.

1212
00:55:08,640 --> 00:55:08,960
Speaker 1: You know what.

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00:55:09,000 --> 00:55:12,239
Speaker 13: I'm still gonna go rat. I need speedy Gonzales. I

1214
00:55:12,280 --> 00:55:15,560
Speaker 13: need the wheels put put speedy Gonzales and wide out

1215
00:55:16,040 --> 00:55:18,040
Speaker 13: and I'm fucking just throw the ball as far as

1216
00:55:18,040 --> 00:55:18,520
Speaker 13: I could throw it.

1217
00:55:20,600 --> 00:55:21,200
Speaker 7: You're looking for here?

1218
00:55:22,000 --> 00:55:22,800
Speaker 3: Can you imagine?

1219
00:55:22,840 --> 00:55:27,120
Speaker 13: But speedy Gonzales is gonna have a specific rat, a

1220
00:55:27,160 --> 00:55:30,000
Speaker 13: specific rat, and in general I would give it to you.

1221
00:55:30,080 --> 00:55:33,440
Speaker 13: Scrolls are faster, but a specific rat. I need speedy

1222
00:55:33,440 --> 00:55:36,480
Speaker 13: Gonzales and I need slow Polke Rodriguez, and that's all

1223
00:55:36,480 --> 00:55:36,799
Speaker 13: we need.

1224
00:55:36,880 --> 00:55:37,919
Speaker 2: Slow Polk's got the guns.

1225
00:55:37,920 --> 00:55:40,359
Speaker 13: Speedy is fast. We got all the bases covered. Now

1226
00:55:40,400 --> 00:55:40,799
Speaker 13: we're good.

1227
00:55:40,880 --> 00:55:42,840
Speaker 1: I don't feel like there's a counter argument to Speedy

1228
00:55:42,840 --> 00:55:44,319
Speaker 1: Gonzales Tyler. I think that's it.

1229
00:55:45,000 --> 00:55:47,920
Speaker 6: Can you imagine a rat running through a hole as

1230
00:55:47,920 --> 00:55:48,600
Speaker 6: a running back?

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00:55:48,840 --> 00:55:51,160
Speaker 5: It gets tapped, right, I mean, well, like a rat

1232
00:55:51,280 --> 00:55:54,000
Speaker 5: was exploded. A squirrel gets tapped and the ball is in.

1233
00:55:54,080 --> 00:55:56,080
Speaker 8: The squirrel is a wide receiver.

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00:55:56,200 --> 00:55:58,520
Speaker 7: Rats are power backs, so a squirrel wouldn't even be

1235
00:55:58,560 --> 00:55:59,640
Speaker 7: taking a handles.

1236
00:55:59,800 --> 00:56:02,200
Speaker 3: We bought a quarterback running back. You want to squose

1237
00:56:02,239 --> 00:56:06,320
Speaker 3: the quarterbacky.

1238
00:56:05,400 --> 00:56:07,480
Speaker 13: Here's the here, here's the here's the difference. And I'm

1239
00:56:07,480 --> 00:56:11,000
Speaker 13: gonna I'm gonna reference a when I was back before

1240
00:56:11,000 --> 00:56:13,800
Speaker 13: I was riding, when I was teaching, I also coached

1241
00:56:14,200 --> 00:56:17,640
Speaker 13: the football team, basketball team, soccer team, track team, because

1242
00:56:17,640 --> 00:56:19,359
Speaker 13: like that's what they do with the guy teachers when

1243
00:56:19,360 --> 00:56:21,040
Speaker 13: they're at the school. They're like, oh, you hear you

1244
00:56:21,440 --> 00:56:24,719
Speaker 13: coach everything. One year we had we had a really

1245
00:56:24,760 --> 00:56:27,320
Speaker 13: good team one year, and we had two running backs

1246
00:56:27,440 --> 00:56:30,520
Speaker 13: and both of them were smaller. These are eighth graders, right,

1247
00:56:30,600 --> 00:56:32,640
Speaker 13: So both of these are like smaller kids for eighth grade.

1248
00:56:32,640 --> 00:56:35,480
Speaker 13: They're like five foot two, five foot one something like that.

1249
00:56:35,560 --> 00:56:39,120
Speaker 13: And there were two completely different kids. Were we too

1250
00:56:39,239 --> 00:56:41,720
Speaker 13: like assign animals to them? I would feel very comfortable

1251
00:56:41,719 --> 00:56:44,759
Speaker 13: saying one had some like rat like qualities.

1252
00:56:44,440 --> 00:56:46,960
Speaker 2: Just sort of you knew he grew up tough.

1253
00:56:47,600 --> 00:56:51,360
Speaker 13: Never never had a haircut, like he'd been in fights

1254
00:56:51,360 --> 00:56:54,040
Speaker 13: his whole life. He there was like not enough food

1255
00:56:54,080 --> 00:56:55,480
Speaker 13: at the house and he had to get what he

1256
00:56:55,520 --> 00:56:58,080
Speaker 13: could get. There's that kid, and then the other kid

1257
00:56:58,800 --> 00:57:02,040
Speaker 13: is a squirrel allways with a nice edge up like

1258
00:57:02,120 --> 00:57:04,279
Speaker 13: new shoes. You know, this was like not a rich

1259
00:57:04,360 --> 00:57:07,000
Speaker 13: kid reporting we were a poor school, but he was

1260
00:57:07,040 --> 00:57:08,920
Speaker 13: like the rich kid in the poor school. And we

1261
00:57:08,960 --> 00:57:11,239
Speaker 13: were playing a football game one day and these two

1262
00:57:11,280 --> 00:57:13,400
Speaker 13: running backs, we would like cycle him in and out,

1263
00:57:13,520 --> 00:57:16,360
Speaker 13: and we put the squirrel in and he if he

1264
00:57:16,480 --> 00:57:18,720
Speaker 13: like got any bit of space, he would put his

1265
00:57:18,760 --> 00:57:20,640
Speaker 13: little foot down in the grass and be gone, like

1266
00:57:20,720 --> 00:57:22,840
Speaker 13: he couldn't do nothing with him. We were playing a

1267
00:57:22,840 --> 00:57:26,120
Speaker 13: game one day against a bigger team and we call

1268
00:57:26,200 --> 00:57:28,160
Speaker 13: like thirty two dive or whatever it was, like get

1269
00:57:28,240 --> 00:57:30,920
Speaker 13: get through there. Makes makes space for him. And he

1270
00:57:31,000 --> 00:57:32,920
Speaker 13: goes through there and the linebacker meets him in there

1271
00:57:32,920 --> 00:57:35,360
Speaker 13: and there's nowhere for him to like dip around, and

1272
00:57:35,400 --> 00:57:36,720
Speaker 13: he just gets fucking.

1273
00:57:36,400 --> 00:57:37,840
Speaker 2: Crushed, boom crushed.

1274
00:57:38,000 --> 00:57:40,520
Speaker 13: And he comes out the game and he's like crying

1275
00:57:40,560 --> 00:57:43,520
Speaker 13: a little bit, doing the breathing thing. And after like

1276
00:57:43,640 --> 00:57:46,560
Speaker 13: a quarter or so, like after halftime, we're like, hey,

1277
00:57:46,600 --> 00:57:49,000
Speaker 13: you want to go back in, and he was like, Nope, not,

1278
00:57:49,120 --> 00:57:51,320
Speaker 13: I don't want to go back in anymore. I'm done.

1279
00:57:51,360 --> 00:57:52,960
Speaker 13: I'm done with football. This is the end of my

1280
00:57:53,000 --> 00:57:56,600
Speaker 13: football career. Meanwhile, a very similar thing happened like three

1281
00:57:56,600 --> 00:57:59,600
Speaker 13: games later to the other kid, and when he got hit,

1282
00:58:00,040 --> 00:58:03,480
Speaker 13: his initial reaction was to like, run another play for me,

1283
00:58:03,680 --> 00:58:06,680
Speaker 13: because now I want to hit him. And I'm like, so,

1284
00:58:06,760 --> 00:58:09,840
Speaker 13: I'm always gonna lean. I'm gonna lean to the rat.

1285
00:58:09,880 --> 00:58:11,560
Speaker 13: I'm gonna go that way. I'm gonna go that way.

1286
00:58:11,720 --> 00:58:12,680
Speaker 3: These are my points.

1287
00:58:12,760 --> 00:58:15,320
Speaker 6: I really appreciate you said you've been a joy.

1288
00:58:19,120 --> 00:58:19,880
Speaker 3: Just because you're you.

1289
00:58:20,040 --> 00:58:22,640
Speaker 5: I appreciate you, man, thanks for jumping on with as much.

1290
00:58:22,920 --> 00:58:24,520
Speaker 3: I really genuely appreciate this.

1291
00:58:25,080 --> 00:58:26,520
Speaker 13: Yeah, this is a this is a lot of fun.

1292
00:58:26,600 --> 00:58:27,880
Speaker 13: I'm rooting for you guys a bunch.

1293
00:58:27,880 --> 00:58:28,160
Speaker 8: Definitely.

1294
00:58:28,200 --> 00:58:28,920
Speaker 3: I wrote it for you too.

1295
00:58:28,960 --> 00:58:31,080
Speaker 5: I cop everything you drop, O cop a stabbed.

1296
00:58:31,080 --> 00:58:32,240
Speaker 13: I'm like, all right, I appreciate it.

1297
00:58:32,240 --> 00:58:33,560
Speaker 3: I don't even I don't even read the title.

1298
00:58:33,560 --> 00:58:37,760
Speaker 1: I'm like, we bought the short stories about the right.

1299
00:58:38,000 --> 00:58:39,440
Speaker 8: We all get the email.

1300
00:58:39,160 --> 00:58:43,080
Speaker 9: Shade right, all the fun emails, you know what I mean,

1301
00:58:43,120 --> 00:58:45,040
Speaker 9: You're like the only one I haven't unsubscribed to.

1302
00:58:45,120 --> 00:58:46,360
Speaker 3: So appreciate you, man.

1303
00:58:47,000 --> 00:58:48,520
Speaker 13: I appreciate that. I appreciate that.

1304
00:58:48,600 --> 00:58:50,000
Speaker 3: All right, all right, take care man.

1305
00:58:51,960 --> 00:58:54,400
Speaker 1: Our thanks again to Shade for coming on. Uh what

1306
00:58:55,000 --> 00:58:59,600
Speaker 1: just that's great, awesome man. We didn't we didn't talk

1307
00:58:59,600 --> 00:59:01,920
Speaker 1: about it the show. But he's rooting for John to

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Speaker 1: become a better golfer, you know, like he doesn't given to.

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00:59:06,920 --> 00:59:08,800
Speaker 5: Do that, and he hates ed he and he said,

1310
00:59:08,800 --> 00:59:09,959
Speaker 5: who the fuck plays golf?

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00:59:10,000 --> 00:59:15,200
Speaker 6: But you know, I'm happy for you and what you

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Speaker 6: got going on over there.

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Speaker 1: I love it. Okay, before we get out of here,

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00:59:22,560 --> 00:59:27,160
Speaker 1: we do have some unfortunate programming news. But uh, White

1315
00:59:27,200 --> 00:59:31,440
Speaker 1: Boy Summer has officially been canceled. You know it was

1316
00:59:31,560 --> 00:59:32,840
Speaker 1: it wasn't long for this world.

1317
00:59:33,920 --> 00:59:37,920
Speaker 4: Blew the merchant it when he when he said white

1318
00:59:37,920 --> 00:59:42,040
Speaker 4: Boy Summer, I was like, because already it's like feels

1319
00:59:42,040 --> 00:59:42,840
Speaker 4: a little racist.

1320
00:59:43,080 --> 00:59:46,520
Speaker 3: I don't know why, but it does. Then he comes

1321
00:59:46,560 --> 00:59:48,280
Speaker 3: in and says, you know, no flannels.

1322
00:59:48,280 --> 00:59:50,760
Speaker 6: I'm cool with that because more flannels for me, no

1323
00:59:50,880 --> 00:59:51,840
Speaker 6: boat shoes, you.

1324
00:59:51,760 --> 00:59:53,720
Speaker 1: Know, y'all get yeah, no salmon.

1325
00:59:54,760 --> 00:59:57,240
Speaker 6: So he said some things that were cool that made

1326
00:59:57,280 --> 00:59:58,520
Speaker 6: it seem fun, all right.

1327
00:59:58,920 --> 01:00:00,320
Speaker 5: Then he comes with the merch and.

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01:00:00,440 --> 01:00:06,720
Speaker 3: He fucking blew it with that old race.

1329
01:00:08,840 --> 01:00:12,240
Speaker 8: Like bro like what bro winn and asked for the

1330
01:00:12,320 --> 01:00:13,320
Speaker 8: master race font.

1331
01:00:13,400 --> 01:00:21,080
Speaker 3: Of course I can't look man, Listen, listen, listen.

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01:00:21,200 --> 01:00:24,360
Speaker 7: This This is just so such lack of awareness on

1333
01:00:24,400 --> 01:00:27,480
Speaker 7: this dude's part, because for one white boy summer, you're

1334
01:00:27,480 --> 01:00:30,040
Speaker 7: fighting an uphill battle with that slogan right.

1335
01:00:29,960 --> 01:00:32,720
Speaker 3: Already, right right, and then you walk.

1336
01:00:32,560 --> 01:00:35,240
Speaker 7: In a five second and you gotta let motherfuckers because

1337
01:00:35,240 --> 01:00:38,959
Speaker 7: there's some negative connotations that come with that ship, right,

1338
01:00:39,080 --> 01:00:41,640
Speaker 7: so you know, you gotta let people know that that's

1339
01:00:41,680 --> 01:00:44,200
Speaker 7: not what you're on. It's gonna be fucking lighthearted, fun

1340
01:00:44,320 --> 01:00:47,280
Speaker 7: like like you should have broke out the goddamn seed

1341
01:00:47,520 --> 01:00:48,080
Speaker 7: font or.

1342
01:00:49,280 --> 01:00:52,200
Speaker 14: Right on the on the fucking white doll font and

1343
01:00:52,240 --> 01:00:54,200
Speaker 14: put that bitch on on like one of them you

1344
01:00:54,440 --> 01:00:57,600
Speaker 14: cloud bubble fine and put that bitch on one of

1345
01:00:57,600 --> 01:00:59,720
Speaker 14: those you remember those nineties T shirts like them dermal

1346
01:00:59,760 --> 01:01:01,920
Speaker 14: ones that that would change with he like put it

1347
01:01:01,960 --> 01:01:07,120
Speaker 14: on one of those shirts. And this motherfucker picked the

1348
01:01:07,160 --> 01:01:13,200
Speaker 14: most sinister item of clothing, a black hoodie, then that

1349
01:01:13,680 --> 01:01:16,360
Speaker 14: fucking old English spot on a black hoodie.

1350
01:01:17,240 --> 01:01:20,439
Speaker 5: We were he was saying white Boy Summer like Vanilla King,

1351
01:01:20,600 --> 01:01:23,240
Speaker 5: and the hoodie said, white boy, you know what I mean.

1352
01:01:23,760 --> 01:01:26,000
Speaker 3: The hoodie fucking helled at me. Nigga. I was like,

1353
01:01:27,840 --> 01:01:28,600
Speaker 3: I was that ship.

1354
01:01:28,680 --> 01:01:35,120
Speaker 14: I'm like, brother said this screams racism.

1355
01:01:35,560 --> 01:01:36,160
Speaker 5: You know me?

1356
01:01:36,960 --> 01:01:38,600
Speaker 3: That ship?

1357
01:01:39,080 --> 01:01:39,560
Speaker 5: You don't?

1358
01:01:40,440 --> 01:01:40,640
Speaker 8: Mother?

1359
01:01:40,800 --> 01:01:43,480
Speaker 3: Hoodie called me a more freak, almost spearing it off

1360
01:01:43,520 --> 01:01:48,000
Speaker 3: with that motherfucker. I was like, I looked at that

1361
01:01:48,080 --> 01:01:50,160
Speaker 3: hoodie like, what the fuck I do to you? Nigga

1362
01:01:50,800 --> 01:01:53,120
Speaker 3: ship man? I can't believe he did that.

1363
01:01:53,360 --> 01:01:53,440
Speaker 6: Bro.

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01:01:54,200 --> 01:01:55,040
Speaker 5: He blew it for you.

1365
01:01:55,200 --> 01:01:55,360
Speaker 3: Mike.

1366
01:01:55,520 --> 01:01:58,360
Speaker 5: You was leaning in and he pulled the rug right

1367
01:01:58,440 --> 01:01:59,200
Speaker 5: for money, you dog?

1368
01:02:00,240 --> 01:02:01,960
Speaker 1: Well, there's always next year.

1369
01:02:04,680 --> 01:02:12,760
Speaker 3: That's the only white boys that one bro whoa oh man.

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01:02:16,080 --> 01:02:19,080
Speaker 1: R I p r P to White Boy Summer got

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01:02:19,200 --> 01:02:20,400
Speaker 1: gone before it was here.

1372
01:02:20,680 --> 01:02:21,160
Speaker 5: And it came.

1373
01:02:21,200 --> 01:02:24,560
Speaker 6: It went so abruptly to that shit was like nigga

1374
01:02:24,600 --> 01:02:28,840
Speaker 6: did hit the black They go to transmission in White

1375
01:02:28,880 --> 01:02:29,400
Speaker 6: Boy Summer?

1376
01:02:29,440 --> 01:02:34,160
Speaker 3: You tell me damn anyway?

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01:02:34,480 --> 01:02:36,440
Speaker 1: All right, Always good to see you guys, Thanks to

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01:02:36,480 --> 01:02:40,240
Speaker 1: Shade for hanging out. We'll see everyone on Monday. Subscribe

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01:02:40,560 --> 01:02:44,600
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1380
01:02:44,720 --> 01:02:47,000
Speaker 1: to learn the latest in the gambling world and how

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01:02:47,040 --> 01:02:50,680
Speaker 1: to make money. I hope you guys enjoy yourselves. We'll

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01:02:50,680 --> 01:02:51,320
Speaker 1: see you next week.