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Speaker 1: The Around the NFL podcast will Beat Your Kid Getting Mad?

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Speaker 1: Hell Yeah?

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Speaker 2: From the Chris Westling podcast studio, It's Around the NFL.

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Speaker 3: It is the Week nine preview.

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Speaker 1: And Draft.

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Speaker 2: Dan hands us Here Heroes, Greg Rosenthal, Mark Sessler, this

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Speaker 2: is it, Mark, this is the end of the season.

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Speaker 1: Psych.

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Speaker 2: It's not even halfway, but we're getting closer to halfway.

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Speaker 4: It is close to halfway, which would suggest that, you know,

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Speaker 4: would be broken up by a lengthy intermission or halftime,

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Speaker 4: like a rest.

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Speaker 3: But it's not gonna be.

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Speaker 4: It's gonna it just keeps barreling, barreling on, and it

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Speaker 4: almost so excited that it does.

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Speaker 2: Right.

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Speaker 5: It almost feels like it's starting this week. It's like

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Speaker 5: we got we got the first well.

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Speaker 3: It's almost thanksgivings the right, we got the first coach firing.

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Speaker 5: We got the first like week of games where it's like, ooh,

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Speaker 5: this is like a big, juicy, meaningful week of games

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Speaker 5: where there's some weight to it.

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Speaker 2: Well, I think I think the true sign of a

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Speaker 2: season getting up there in mileage is when you start

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Speaker 2: seeing games where both teams are just like bye bye yeah,

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Speaker 2: And when we get to the playout the string games

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Speaker 2: late in the season, but you know, if we keep

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Speaker 2: adding playoff teams, that will never happen either. We have

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Speaker 2: a lot to get to today because we're going to

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Speaker 2: ahead of our draft preview the Germany game, which is

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Speaker 2: a quirker. We got some primetime games to hit that

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Speaker 2: we usually hit in the middle of the week, but

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Speaker 2: the schedule is a little funky because of the trade

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Speaker 2: deadline B minus. But first, let's start with the firing.

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Speaker 2: This went down poorly time for us, during a dark periods.

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Speaker 2: We got pants big time Mark Davis, after we kind

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Speaker 2: of flash point focused it a little bit. Not an

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Speaker 2: official episode, no, I don't want to take credit for it,

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Speaker 2: but almost like a workshop of what we where we

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Speaker 2: were can write with that once again, it shows that

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Speaker 2: ability to have a vision over visibility, that the Raiders

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Speaker 2: stew was toxic and something big was happening. And then

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Speaker 2: twenty four hours later, Mark Davis, the owner of the Raiders,

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Speaker 2: decides I'm done. I'm getting out on the Josh McDaniels era.

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Speaker 2: I'm getting out on the Ziggler era. So he fires

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Speaker 2: the head coach and the general manager. He told ESPN

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Speaker 2: on Wednesday. Unfortunately, I had great hopes for Josh and Dave.

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Speaker 2: It just seemed we were going in the wrong direction.

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Speaker 2: So with the trade deadline, I just felt like it

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Speaker 2: was time to make a change, time to make a move.

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Speaker 2: I don't know, there's something about it's like talking about

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Speaker 2: your college.

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Speaker 2: Unfortunately, I had great hopes for Josh and Dave just

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Speaker 2: couldn't make it. Josh and Dave didn't make it. So

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Speaker 2: there we are. They're starting over, and how much are

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Speaker 2: they starting over? Rap Sheet then reported later in the

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Speaker 2: day that Jimmy g he also he's going to the

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Speaker 2: bench after just a pathetic Monday showing. And now it

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Speaker 2: is Aidan O'Connell's team probably for the rest of the year.

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Speaker 2: Greg a total implosion like the old casinos in Vegas.

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Speaker 5: I've been fascinated with some of the day after reporting.

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Speaker 5: Vic Taefer, who we've talked about the Athletic had some

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Speaker 5: really good stuff where Mark Davis just thought, where is

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Speaker 5: this empty confidence coming from with Josh McDaniels and Ziegler,

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Speaker 5: And at a certain point he realized, oh, these guys.

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Speaker 3: Actually don't know what they're talking about.

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Speaker 5: And it is sad that the Belichick coaching trees had

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Speaker 3: I mean, they had the Coach of.

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Speaker 5: The Year a year ago, Brian Dable, if you want

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Speaker 3: But uh, Josh.

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Speaker 5: McDaniels going down it well, going out sad with that. Ultimately,

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Speaker 5: him starting Brian Hoyer in a game against Tyson Bagen's

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Speaker 5: Bears is what God Josh McDaniels fired because he was

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Speaker 5: living in his fears. He didn't start O'Connell, which Mark

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Speaker 5: Davis clearly wanted him to do. He thought it would

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Speaker 5: be the safer move, and you lost by three scorers

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Speaker 5: The whole the whole run was sad.

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Speaker 4: I think the thing about Josh McDaniels, you know, being

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Speaker 4: and as with Josh McDaniels where he talked about coming

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Speaker 4: that he had changed, that he saw through new eyes,

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Speaker 4: and I feel like this Raiders run, which also included

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Speaker 4: him losing to Jeff's Saturday in a disaster, I mean,

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Speaker 4: talk about a fireable offense, but it was just too

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Speaker 4: early in the fact that you know, Mark Davis has

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Speaker 4: old faces from his past, guys like Brian Hoyer who

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Speaker 4: as well, obviously, but it's like, what was the vision?

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Speaker 3: What was the plan?

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Speaker 4: And you know, I thought the one drum beat of

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Speaker 4: critiquing the Raiders is that they're proud fan base, and

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Speaker 4: I like, like Raiders fans in general, the concept of

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Speaker 4: You can't talk like negatively about our team. You don't

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Speaker 4: see what we see. It's like we saw all along

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Speaker 4: with the owners scene is like what you called a regression,

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Speaker 4: and it they regress. They were regressing before our eyes

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Speaker 3: In fairness to fans, it's not all of them weren't

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Speaker 2: In fact, a couple of weeks ago you might remember

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Speaker 1: There's a lot of Raiders fans that are.

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Speaker 2: Getting pulling out their hair about how poorly the team

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Speaker 2: way this played out. It's crazy to me that a

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Speaker 2: they have highly tradable assets like Devontae Adams, Josh Jacobs,

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Speaker 2: And when team this is a report out there. When

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Speaker 2: I understand you don't want maybe the GM that you're

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Speaker 2: that the frustration from me from Afar is like this

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Speaker 2: team does need to go all in on a rebuild

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Speaker 2: and do it the right way, and passing up on

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Speaker 2: a chance to pick up first round picks potentially at

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Speaker 2: the trade deadline shows again there's just just like they're

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Speaker 1: It's a half measured type team all the way around.

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Speaker 5: Well, that's more on the ownership and the timing of

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Speaker 5: all of this and not making them do that. You're

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Speaker 5: absolutely right, but you look at the moves that McDaniels made.

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Speaker 5: Bill Barnow pointed this out, and I thought it was

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Speaker 5: well well put. Chandler Jones, Derek car Darren Waller, Hunter Renfro,

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Speaker 5: all of those guys got either big contract extensions or

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Speaker 5: he's not there. The DeVante Adams move is the only

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Speaker 5: one that you know, I don't think it was a

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Speaker 5: disaster for them, but they also traded their first written

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Speaker 5: gonna love them up some. Antonio Pierce, he is very

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Speaker 5: different than their last interim coach, Rich Pasacci, but he's

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Speaker 5: got such an interim coach vibe that everyone's gonna love

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Speaker 5: saying he grew up, you know in Compton where in

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Speaker 5: the NWA hats like repping the Raiders.

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Speaker 3: He's Raider for life.

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Speaker 5: And just like the listening to him talk, I feel like,

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Speaker 5: who knows, but I feel like he's gonna have some

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Speaker 5: with just like lots of ups and downs where he's

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Speaker 2: But yeah, Mick Lombardi, so they on Mike Lambart. The

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Speaker 5: At least these guys are you know, the guys who

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Speaker 4: I think Antonio, I'm the st Antonio appears is intriguing

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Speaker 4: it's not a Jeff Saturday situation in level. It's like

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Speaker 4: these are the coaches that have been Raiders coaches under

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Speaker 4: John Gruden thing, and Josh McDaniels. It's like, I guess

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Speaker 4: if you're a Raiders fan, this team that's quietly been

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Speaker 4: as an organization historically, Like do you trust this ownership

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Speaker 4: just I really I think that's the heart of the issue,

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Speaker 4: is like Mark Davis becoming fascinated with the incorrect people.

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Speaker 5: Yeasacia, it was literally their best stretch of football since

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Speaker 5: Mark Davis took over.

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Speaker 2: It's not an exaggeration, and you know it's now it's

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Speaker 2: ancient history. And Gruden, I mean he got himself run

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Speaker 2: a better track when he was tracking. He's there and

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Speaker 2: then once he gets himself run it leads to Basacia.

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Speaker 3: But it kind of like they gave him a ten

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Speaker 2: The idea was that Gruden was going to be the

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Speaker 5: Recovery McDaniels and John Gruden for the next few years.

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Speaker 2: And someone explained to me why four more years from

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Speaker 2: NFL players, star players, average players, guys.

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Speaker 1: That are hanging on.

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Speaker 2: They essentially are paycheck to paycheck for the most point

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Speaker 2: for the most part or year to year, and Jim

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Speaker 2: tom Suwell for the Niners gets paid six years or whatever,

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Speaker 2: or Josh McDaniels is going to get why all this, Garrett,

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Speaker 2: Why do these guys get these insane fully guaranteed deal

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Speaker 2: and the players don't.

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Speaker 5: You don't want to ask too many questions like why

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Speaker 5: does the NFL have an anti trust exemption? Like all

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Speaker 5: of this has worked to making the league a powerful place.

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Speaker 2: That feels like a lot for potentially, Dan, I'm gonna

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Speaker 2: gonna send it back your way because everyone's waiting for

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Speaker 3: I'm going to work on that.

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Speaker 5: NFL players have less power than than any other players

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Speaker 4: Well, certain quarterback that that was a quick contract outlier

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Speaker 4: that didn't create a trend. Got it to your point,

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Speaker 3: Fine, here's it. Here's the other side of it.

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Speaker 2: Because this is funny because I have some you know,

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Speaker 1: That's the NBA.

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Speaker 3: That's a fun side. At least he's, oh he's out there.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, you know, yeah, let's speak careful what you're requesting on.

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Speaker 4: Football is completely different than basketball.

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Speaker 2: I just thought it was funny, Like there's a it's

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Speaker 3: Whole summer was about talking about it.

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Speaker 2: to the Frankfort game.

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Speaker 1: Anybody ever been to Germany?

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Speaker 4: By the way, you know that I've been to Germany.

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Speaker 4: I've told you that about a thousand times.

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Speaker 2: You became best friends with Mark ingram. I recall, these

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Speaker 3: So no, I don't think it's like pictures. You remember

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Speaker 2: Remember I don't do that at the bench chopping it

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Speaker 3: Mark, what is c it's over socially dumb.

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Speaker 2: All right, let's talk about it because it's a banger.

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Speaker 2: It could be the game of the year. It has

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Speaker 2: presented by Draft Kings, and it is the Miami Dolphins

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Speaker 3: Oh my goodness, over under.

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Speaker 2: Fifty and a half thiefs Chiefs laying one point of

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Speaker 2: Just because, like, and I know, and I had some

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Speaker 4: Yeah, And that line is one of the only lines

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Speaker 3: And it's like they look a little Mysdivide to me

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Speaker 5: They are fifth in offensive DVA fifth in defense. Are

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Speaker 2: That has been and that's the thing that keeps their

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Speaker 2: Will be a big test for the Dolphins. Their wins

442
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Speaker 2: this year, Chargers, Pats, Broncos, Giants, Panthers, Patriots. Their losses

443
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Speaker 2: forty eight to twenty to the Bills thirty one to

444
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Speaker 2: seventeen to the Eagles, So.

445
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Speaker 1: Two big tests so far this year. They failed them both.

446
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Speaker 2: And you can't say that infound because in both games

447
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Speaker 2: they were outclassed.

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Speaker 1: Now you get the Chiefs and.

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Speaker 3: They and those two losses.

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Speaker 4: They went from being one of the best offenses obviously

451
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Speaker 4: in the league with any way you look at it,

452
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Speaker 4: to having a negative ep eight to put them at

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Speaker 4: the twenty seventh most effective offense against the Bills and

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Speaker 4: the Eagles.

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Speaker 3: So there it comes, Kansas City. They're running game the

456
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Speaker 3: last two weeks.

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Speaker 5: I think defenses are trying to stop the run almost first,

458
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Speaker 5: which seems crazy. But the last two weeks forty five

459
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Speaker 5: yards against the Eagles, seventy two against the Patriots. So

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Speaker 5: I think they're going to need to run it better

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Speaker 5: this week.

462
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Speaker 2: Like how you feel about the Cowboys, Mark if they

463
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Speaker 2: lose thirty one to seventeen in Germany on Sunday morning. Yeah,

464
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Speaker 2: don't come to me in January and tell me I

465
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Speaker 2: have to take this team seriously because.

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Speaker 4: You just flopped three though, because you've got a chance

467
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Speaker 4: to change. For if there's people with creeping dout like

468
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Speaker 4: turn turn around what we.

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Speaker 1: Think, Smidge, it doubt like you don't even have to

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Speaker 1: win this game.

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Speaker 2: Like if it goes back and forth and it's a

472
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Speaker 2: really competitive game, I'm cool with that.

473
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Speaker 3: But if you know, show and get.

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Speaker 2: Beat by two scores or something, it's like, Okay, no,

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Speaker 2: get all your stats out, Kyrie, go get your two

476
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Speaker 2: thousand yards to win all the awards, But like, am

477
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Speaker 2: I gonna take you seriously? When the crucible of the

478
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Speaker 2: playoffs arrives, I will be yes doubting them at that point.

479
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Speaker 2: So it's an important game in a lot of ways. Uh, okay,

480
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Speaker 2: did you have one last thing?

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Speaker 5: Well, just a wild booth here looking forward to it.

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Speaker 5: Rich Eyes and Jason mccordy and Dan Arlovsky. So this

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Speaker 5: is a one off. It's NFL network, it's Orlofsky, who's

484
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Speaker 5: at ESPN. We got Stacy Dale's our friend on the sideline,

485
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Speaker 5: the Sarah Walls. I'm ready for this.

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Speaker 3: It's uh.

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Speaker 5: We got the time moving this weekend daylight savings, but

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Speaker 5: we actually get an extra hours, so it's not quite

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Speaker 5: as early here on the That's nice, but I.

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Speaker 3: Mean they got five, but why not make it eight?

491
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Speaker 3: Say atn guys just to wander around on the sidelines.

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Speaker 3: They're Stacy Dales, I believe are on the sidelines. They're

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Speaker 3: not there.

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Speaker 1: Why not send us there? We could be the end zones.

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Speaker 3: Sure, not too late. We could get there in time.

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Speaker 4: All right, We've done it before for a different network. Yes,

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Speaker 4: we after ss outlet a bang.

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Speaker 1: All right, let's move to the other primetime games.

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Speaker 5: Another going to say Sky Sports name, I mean, they're

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Speaker 5: they're great people.

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Speaker 1: You can you can say.

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Speaker 4: I think everyone you know in that part of the

509
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Speaker 4: world knows that we're on Sky Sports.

510
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Speaker 1: So it's redundant.

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Speaker 2: Bill's at Bangles Sunday night football. Now we're talking, and

512
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Speaker 2: you know who. I'm looking for a breakout performance from

513
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Speaker 2: Tarico Collinsworth. Still feel like that team hasn't clicked.

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Speaker 3: I so appreciate that.

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Speaker 4: I so appreciate you Mar said that because I feel no,

516
00:23:07,680 --> 00:23:09,439
Speaker 4: because when we watch those Sunday night games and they

517
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Speaker 4: kind of great on me a little bit, I feel

518
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Speaker 4: like you can't say it. Everyone's like, no, no, no,

519
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Speaker 4: they're perfect. It's like, all right, there, they somewhat annoyed me,

520
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Speaker 4: and I don't.

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Speaker 3: Know what was perfect. You've always been there.

522
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Speaker 2: It's like the also, maybe football still on at nighttime.

523
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Speaker 2: You're that factors and depending on the matchup. That could

524
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Speaker 2: be true, but this is a this is a great one.

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Speaker 2: This one's different. My point is Al Michael's end of

526
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Speaker 2: Prime Al Michaels with Chris Chef's kiss. Wow, uh, concert

527
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Speaker 2: I don't since I'm just gonna say, Greg, and you

528
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Speaker 2: know I love Trico, it hasn't been a home run

529
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Speaker 2: for me so far. I think by a wide margin,

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Speaker 2: by a wide margin right now, Joe Buck and Troy

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Speaker 2: Aikman are the best team. And I didn't think that

532
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Speaker 2: necessarily a couple of years ago, but I think they

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Speaker 2: have taken the mantle from Nance and Romo of the

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Speaker 2: Sunday and Night team. The Thursday night team has never

535
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Speaker 2: really I think got cooking here with herb Street and

536
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Speaker 2: and late period Al, I think that's the crown.

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Speaker 4: I know you're talking prime time of Berkhart Olsen are

538
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Speaker 4: right there for me too.

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Speaker 1: They've been disrespectful for.

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Speaker 2: Me not to bring them up. They they're the number

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Speaker 2: one team, uh and they are very good. But to me,

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Speaker 2: it takes a lot of pressure on Tom Brady.

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Speaker 3: Greg is actually it's taking the words.

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Speaker 2: He doesn't even know how to react as having critical

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Speaker 2: takes about the announcers.

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Speaker 3: I'm just like, like, I'm staying out of this. I'm

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Speaker 3: letting you cook. I don't.

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Speaker 1: I don't, uh since but if you're not had an opinion.

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Speaker 5: I know, I kind of don't have a hot take

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Speaker 5: on this. I think they're all close. I'd probably take

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Speaker 5: Akman and Buck, but but I still love me some Ramo.

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Speaker 1: Greg you no hot take? No Greg No.

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Speaker 3: Happened a couple of weeks.

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Speaker 5: I remember, I remember long enough ago where our main

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Speaker 5: teams were in a it was were in a bad

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Speaker 5: state that I didn't like like one out of I

557
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Speaker 5: like like one out of four of them. Right now,

558
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Speaker 5: TNF is the only one that's really on my raidar.

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Speaker 5: I'm I'm happy with the others.

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Speaker 4: It's like anti Dan Dierdorf, nor was either.

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Speaker 5: The ESPN crews were crazy that Phil Sims and Nance

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Speaker 5: crew was.

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Speaker 1: Remember the old Sunday.

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Speaker 5: Wasn't as good as he used to be. Like, they're

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Speaker 5: better than that. It's all gotten better.

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Speaker 2: Akman stopped caring what people thought and got a lot

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Speaker 2: more real in the last couple of years, and that's

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Speaker 2: what led to him, I think, taking the next step.

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Speaker 2: And then he as he aged, he increases resemblance to

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Speaker 2: jay Z and it was just like, okay, Sonny, you

571
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Speaker 2: have that angle. Like the king of hip hop. You

572
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Speaker 2: have some of that element as well. And onto Monday

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Speaker 2: night football. All right, here we go Sunday Night Football.

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Speaker 2: The Buffalo Bills five and three, second in the AFC

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Speaker 2: East behind the Dolphins, so you know, depending on how

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Speaker 2: things turn out in Germany, they might be playing to

577
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Speaker 2: jump back into first against the Cincinnati Bengals. And it's

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Speaker 2: I mean, you gotta love it Josh Allen versus Joe Burrow.

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Speaker 2: And interesting here Mark, and there's a lot of angles

580
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Speaker 2: to this game, but let's start here that after all

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Speaker 2: of the concern, rightfully so, around Joe Burrow's health, he's

582
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Speaker 2: coming off a game where he just bawled out as

583
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Speaker 2: well as any quarterback in any game all season, and

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Speaker 2: a beating of the Niners. And now to the other side,

585
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Speaker 2: it's Josh Allen concerns and reports about that shoulder that

586
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Speaker 2: he injured on Thursday night football against Tampa Bay. What

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Speaker 2: will that affect be if.

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Speaker 4: Any I Yeah, it's just this kind of thing where

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Speaker 4: it's my number one note too, like he said that

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Speaker 4: it's getting it's so much better. He said that if

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Speaker 4: you know, if it was the old trope, if I

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Speaker 4: if we had to practice today, I could, If we

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Speaker 4: had a play today, I could.

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Speaker 3: But it's like an.

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Speaker 4: Injury derailed the better version of Josh Allen for parts

596
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Speaker 4: of last season too, shoulder injury, and it's just like

597
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Speaker 4: this is this is like something to monitor, like snap

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Speaker 4: by snap. I think in general, I try and like

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Speaker 4: to re galvanize my thoughts on the Bills because they've

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Speaker 4: gone through.

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Speaker 3: These these different phases.

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Speaker 4: But I'm looking bad, like I think they're just a

603
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Speaker 4: little snake bit and some of the timing of what

604
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Speaker 4: happened to them has sort of has been a little wonky,

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Speaker 4: like all right, so that they go to London and

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Speaker 4: they're really like sort of a drift and seems sleepy

607
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Speaker 4: to me, And that lost to Jacksonville. They score fourteen

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Speaker 4: points in a tight win over the Giants, they get

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Speaker 4: romped by New England, they barely beat the Bucks, and

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Speaker 4: now you're playing the Bengals.

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Speaker 3: It's so about the time of season.

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Speaker 4: If you got them earlier in the year, the Bills

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Speaker 4: are clearly the better team. With with Joe Burrow walking

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Speaker 4: around somewhat disabled. It's like now the version of the

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Speaker 4: of the Bengals that we saw last week. This is

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Speaker 4: the best team in the AFC to me, And it's

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Speaker 4: like that if they can do that.

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Speaker 5: It's one game, I guess, I know, but it's I

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Speaker 5: think we I know it's not one games.

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Speaker 3: It's one game.

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Speaker 4: But it's also like they were heating up into that situation.

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Speaker 4: And I just feel like Burrow almost like got his

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Speaker 4: training camp the last five or six weeks, and it's

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Speaker 4: like they looked unstopped to me. And I think they

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Speaker 4: are a team that has shown up against the Bills

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Speaker 4: in the past, they've shown up against the Chiefs. The

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Speaker 4: best version of them can beat anyone in this conference.

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Speaker 4: And what I saw last week was like a siren song.

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Speaker 4: It was concerning.

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Speaker 5: I just loved that third and nine play where Burrow

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Speaker 5: looks at the defense and he changes the play at

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Speaker 5: the line of scrimmage to a QB draw and he

633
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Speaker 5: just explodes up the middle for a first down. And

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Speaker 5: he had a couple other scrambles and Paul Daner does

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Speaker 5: a really good job covering them at the Athletic and

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Speaker 5: he said Burrow all off season his main focus was

637
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Speaker 5: adding explosive movement to his game. That he wanted to

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Speaker 5: be a better runner, that he wanted to be more

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Speaker 5: explosive in short areas, to be able to buy time

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Speaker 5: and to be able to run. And I saw it

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Speaker 5: now that he was healthy. I don't think it was

642
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Speaker 5: the old Burrow. I think it was a slightly new Burrow.

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Speaker 5: That he might have a little more juice in those

644
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Speaker 5: legs than he used to, which makes sense. He's getting

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Speaker 5: into his physical prime here. We know mentally he's there,

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Speaker 5: and he's facing a Bill's defense like the Bengals defense

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Speaker 5: that on balance has been a little disappointing. If you

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Speaker 5: look at their advanced metrics, these two defenses are middle

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Speaker 5: of the pack, and you would have expected more advantage offenses.

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Speaker 5: I think in this game, I think we get points

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Speaker 5: and I think it'll be fun.

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Speaker 2: Cincinnati's at home here, they are favored by a point

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Speaker 2: and a half and the Bills. Huh, yeah, the Bills

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Speaker 2: have been a better team. You know, most teams are

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Speaker 2: better at home, but their offense statistically has been much

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Speaker 2: better at home, and they've been turning the ball over

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Speaker 2: at a concerning rate in these road games and it's

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Speaker 2: cost him a couple of games.

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Speaker 1: So they're gonna have to be cleaner.

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Speaker 2: We talked about it Mark last week when we did

661
00:29:32,360 --> 00:29:35,640
Speaker 2: a Thursday Night recap that Buffalo like that felt like

662
00:29:35,680 --> 00:29:39,600
Speaker 2: it should have been a thirty six to seventeen winner

663
00:29:39,680 --> 00:29:42,560
Speaker 2: or whatever, and instead they're holding on for dear life

664
00:29:42,560 --> 00:29:45,560
Speaker 2: on a Hail Mary. So the execution has just got

665
00:29:45,600 --> 00:29:47,560
Speaker 2: to be a little sharper. And again, just keep an

666
00:29:47,560 --> 00:29:50,520
Speaker 2: eye on Josh Allen because they did run him more,

667
00:29:50,600 --> 00:29:54,040
Speaker 2: which the Bill's faithful we're clamoring for. But now if

668
00:29:54,040 --> 00:29:56,560
Speaker 2: he's got an injury designation and he's are they going

669
00:29:56,640 --> 00:29:58,640
Speaker 2: to take that element away because he's not the same

670
00:29:58,680 --> 00:30:00,960
Speaker 2: player if he can't you those legs.

671
00:30:00,720 --> 00:30:03,320
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean he's you know, his use on the ground.

672
00:30:03,360 --> 00:30:06,920
Speaker 4: We've talked about this before has been largely non existent

673
00:30:06,960 --> 00:30:10,160
Speaker 4: in too many games. I do like that, like they

674
00:30:10,200 --> 00:30:12,680
Speaker 4: need someone like Russewell Douglas in this game, and like,

675
00:30:12,680 --> 00:30:14,560
Speaker 4: I don't know what his availability.

676
00:30:14,000 --> 00:30:15,600
Speaker 3: Will be, but I think he's paying you got it.

677
00:30:15,600 --> 00:30:18,440
Speaker 4: He'd already be their their best corner right now. They

678
00:30:18,440 --> 00:30:21,560
Speaker 4: signed Linval Joseph upfront, you know, a guy who was

679
00:30:21,600 --> 00:30:23,800
Speaker 4: about as big as a garage door, and I like,

680
00:30:23,880 --> 00:30:26,280
Speaker 4: I do like one development from that game that Dalton

681
00:30:26,320 --> 00:30:29,320
Speaker 4: Kincaid last two weeks, like getting a lot more used.

682
00:30:29,360 --> 00:30:32,040
Speaker 4: It's fifteen targets, thirteen catches, one hundred and forty yards.

683
00:30:32,160 --> 00:30:33,280
Speaker 3: They needed someone.

684
00:30:33,040 --> 00:30:35,040
Speaker 4: To step up, and it like he looked awesome. He

685
00:30:35,080 --> 00:30:36,800
Speaker 4: looked great, and I think that's a that's a that's

686
00:30:36,840 --> 00:30:39,000
Speaker 4: a boon for them. But I'm gonna tell you something

687
00:30:39,080 --> 00:30:42,240
Speaker 4: right now, like, yes, I just feel I'm feeling the Bengals.

688
00:30:42,280 --> 00:30:44,000
Speaker 4: I remember two years ago when they started to like

689
00:30:44,080 --> 00:30:46,200
Speaker 4: fascinate me with the way they would destroy the Ravens

690
00:30:46,240 --> 00:30:47,640
Speaker 4: and Steelers, and you got a lot of that had

691
00:30:47,640 --> 00:30:49,560
Speaker 4: to do with Joe Mixon on the ground, who looked

692
00:30:49,560 --> 00:30:51,360
Speaker 4: great last week and last year that was not who

693
00:30:51,360 --> 00:30:55,040
Speaker 4: they were. But I am confidently locking up the Cincinnati

694
00:30:55,080 --> 00:30:58,400
Speaker 4: Bengals to take out Buffalo because I think there are

695
00:30:58,560 --> 00:31:01,160
Speaker 4: structural problems with what the Bills are offering the season.

696
00:31:01,160 --> 00:31:05,840
Speaker 2: I'm so annoyed right now because on our conversation client,

697
00:31:05,840 --> 00:31:08,840
Speaker 2: where we work behind the scenes to set certain things up,

698
00:31:09,120 --> 00:31:12,480
Speaker 2: you put in all caps locking the Bills, and I said, oh,

699
00:31:12,560 --> 00:31:14,360
Speaker 2: I'm going to lock off with Sessler here because I

700
00:31:14,360 --> 00:31:15,200
Speaker 2: love Cincinnati.

701
00:31:15,800 --> 00:31:17,320
Speaker 3: But then you come on the show just now and

702
00:31:17,360 --> 00:31:18,520
Speaker 3: you say't the wrong thing.

703
00:31:18,880 --> 00:31:21,560
Speaker 4: Yeah, well that's why, you know, I try to do

704
00:31:21,640 --> 00:31:23,320
Speaker 4: two things at once. That doesn't a noise work out.

705
00:31:23,360 --> 00:31:25,160
Speaker 4: But no, it's the Bengals. Yeah, I'm not taking a

706
00:31:25,240 --> 00:31:28,800
Speaker 4: road team against this, against this version of the ben.

707
00:31:29,040 --> 00:31:31,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know I'm going to lock the Bengals too.

708
00:31:31,040 --> 00:31:33,080
Speaker 2: And it's a part of it's an apology. It's an

709
00:31:33,080 --> 00:31:37,040
Speaker 2: apology to Joe Burrow for locking against him in San

710
00:31:37,040 --> 00:31:40,880
Speaker 2: Francisco last week. And I just think I'm going to

711
00:31:41,000 --> 00:31:43,640
Speaker 2: start riding with the Bengals in the locks competition.

712
00:31:44,080 --> 00:31:46,680
Speaker 3: If they are in the lock zone, I'm just going

713
00:31:46,760 --> 00:31:47,800
Speaker 3: to get behind Joe Burrow.

714
00:31:47,880 --> 00:31:51,040
Speaker 5: This is this is a sign of someone spinning, spinning

715
00:31:51,040 --> 00:31:53,479
Speaker 5: out in the lock competition. You lose with him against

716
00:31:53,480 --> 00:31:55,120
Speaker 5: them one week, you have to flip with him, and

717
00:31:55,120 --> 00:31:56,480
Speaker 5: now you're starting you're with him every week.

718
00:31:56,520 --> 00:31:59,040
Speaker 3: The next well, he's spinning out. I have to You're right.

719
00:31:59,240 --> 00:32:00,680
Speaker 3: But I will say that that.

720
00:32:02,480 --> 00:32:06,280
Speaker 2: Last week was obviously an eye opener because you learned

721
00:32:06,320 --> 00:32:10,160
Speaker 2: it showed how healthy he looked, and you talked about

722
00:32:10,160 --> 00:32:14,320
Speaker 2: that that audible I called attention last Sunday to that

723
00:32:14,480 --> 00:32:16,360
Speaker 2: scramble where he got out of the sack early on

724
00:32:16,440 --> 00:32:18,880
Speaker 2: third down and made the throws he was going to

725
00:32:18,960 --> 00:32:21,480
Speaker 2: the sideline like, these are the things that one of

726
00:32:21,520 --> 00:32:25,400
Speaker 2: the greatest quarterbacks in the league and my favorite quarterback

727
00:32:25,440 --> 00:32:27,720
Speaker 2: to watch in the league makes when he is when

728
00:32:27,760 --> 00:32:31,120
Speaker 2: he is him, and he is him right now, he

729
00:32:31,160 --> 00:32:31,680
Speaker 2: is him.

730
00:32:32,200 --> 00:32:33,600
Speaker 1: I mean, who do you think you are?

731
00:32:33,760 --> 00:32:34,160
Speaker 5: I am?

732
00:32:34,360 --> 00:32:34,680
Speaker 1: All right?

733
00:32:34,720 --> 00:32:35,640
Speaker 3: Well, what have we got er?

734
00:32:35,720 --> 00:32:38,080
Speaker 2: Well, guys, we also got excited back here because we

735
00:32:38,360 --> 00:32:39,920
Speaker 2: also saw the lock in the Bill's message.

736
00:32:40,120 --> 00:32:41,960
Speaker 3: We originally thought that Mark. We thought there would be

737
00:32:42,000 --> 00:32:44,640
Speaker 3: a lock off between Mark and somebody else. So all right,

738
00:32:45,320 --> 00:32:49,840
Speaker 3: Mark to wonder who confusion caused. Hello, heroes.

739
00:32:50,920 --> 00:32:56,400
Speaker 7: Coming off another successful walk week, the.

740
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Speaker 3: Jet can't be bragging about that, Jim.

741
00:33:00,200 --> 00:33:01,280
Speaker 1: You gotta get them out of here.

742
00:33:01,560 --> 00:33:03,640
Speaker 7: They don't know what they're talking about. They won't do

743
00:33:03,720 --> 00:33:05,640
Speaker 7: the video, they won't participate. All they want to do

744
00:33:05,720 --> 00:33:09,400
Speaker 7: is complain. That's fine. I'm gonna keep rocking and rolling,

745
00:33:10,560 --> 00:33:13,400
Speaker 7: just like the Bengals will keep rocking and rolling this

746
00:33:13,480 --> 00:33:19,280
Speaker 7: week at home in prime time. Basically, sorry, Eric, you

747
00:33:19,280 --> 00:33:22,000
Speaker 7: know I love you, but the Bills aren't very good.

748
00:33:22,720 --> 00:33:25,520
Speaker 7: He should be, but every week I watch them and

749
00:33:25,560 --> 00:33:28,640
Speaker 7: they're just not. They're an average football team. I've been

750
00:33:28,680 --> 00:33:31,520
Speaker 7: saying all year, they're gonna miss the playoffs. The Bengals

751
00:33:31,520 --> 00:33:33,400
Speaker 7: exposed them at the end of the year last year.

752
00:33:33,920 --> 00:33:37,560
Speaker 7: One up in Buffalo, buy a ton, dominate them. They

753
00:33:37,600 --> 00:33:41,640
Speaker 7: own this Bills team. Joe Burrow throws for three touchdowns,

754
00:33:42,040 --> 00:33:44,400
Speaker 7: the Bengals win big, lock it up?

755
00:33:44,640 --> 00:33:46,080
Speaker 3: All right? I love it?

756
00:33:46,080 --> 00:33:48,920
Speaker 2: And Nick's getting hot, by the way, if we have

757
00:33:48,960 --> 00:33:51,160
Speaker 2: the standings, by the way, I know we haven't seen

758
00:33:51,160 --> 00:33:55,160
Speaker 2: the Rosenthal pick yet, but we have.

759
00:33:55,640 --> 00:33:59,160
Speaker 5: Yeah, this isn't right. Dan's three back?

760
00:33:59,680 --> 00:34:00,959
Speaker 1: What do you mean? How would you know that?

761
00:34:01,320 --> 00:34:03,800
Speaker 3: Because they sent it out on How did you know

762
00:34:03,880 --> 00:34:06,760
Speaker 3: that for Twitter? Do you study this more closely than

763
00:34:06,760 --> 00:34:08,040
Speaker 3: anything in your entire life?

764
00:34:08,120 --> 00:34:08,200
Speaker 2: No?

765
00:34:08,360 --> 00:34:11,400
Speaker 5: But they sent it out this morning on Twitter and

766
00:34:11,440 --> 00:34:14,160
Speaker 5: they added me and I saw it the lockups?

767
00:34:14,239 --> 00:34:16,640
Speaker 3: What is his? I believe all I remember it was

768
00:34:16,719 --> 00:34:19,840
Speaker 3: Mark and Dan or three back? That was all I remember.

769
00:34:19,920 --> 00:34:24,279
Speaker 3: Tracking isn't he? They sent it this morning? Uh, here

770
00:34:24,320 --> 00:34:24,520
Speaker 3: we go.

771
00:34:24,560 --> 00:34:26,920
Speaker 5: They sent a nice little thing the Cincinnati Zoo that

772
00:34:26,960 --> 00:34:28,520
Speaker 5: was ahead of you two. They're at five and three.

773
00:34:28,600 --> 00:34:30,239
Speaker 4: I was gonna say, yeah, they were ahead of me

774
00:34:30,320 --> 00:34:30,680
Speaker 4: last week.

775
00:34:30,719 --> 00:34:33,160
Speaker 2: What's going on with the graphic? So we got Nick,

776
00:34:33,200 --> 00:34:37,200
Speaker 2: Who's hot? By the way, I think they were one.

777
00:34:37,560 --> 00:34:39,480
Speaker 2: There's a lot of confusion going on right now.

778
00:34:39,719 --> 00:34:41,719
Speaker 4: Wait, by the way, I like the last comment that

779
00:34:41,760 --> 00:34:45,000
Speaker 4: you two made about like, don't give Nick or the

780
00:34:45,040 --> 00:34:47,080
Speaker 4: crew credit for the Jets lock I locked the Jets

781
00:34:47,120 --> 00:34:48,319
Speaker 4: last week, and I thought that the same.

782
00:34:48,440 --> 00:34:50,160
Speaker 3: You don't need to be crowing about that time.

783
00:34:50,200 --> 00:34:51,000
Speaker 1: I didn't say anything.

784
00:34:51,440 --> 00:34:52,440
Speaker 3: I said, you locked it up?

785
00:34:52,520 --> 00:34:54,520
Speaker 4: Yeah, no, I you know I didn't for the show.

786
00:34:54,520 --> 00:34:56,439
Speaker 4: And it was like, it looks like at Tire Fighter.

787
00:34:56,520 --> 00:34:58,360
Speaker 4: Until the final couple of minutes, you guys had a

788
00:34:58,400 --> 00:35:01,359
Speaker 4: one percent chance of lock that up. And that goes

789
00:35:01,400 --> 00:35:03,719
Speaker 4: to show you the power of sports. You always have

790
00:35:03,760 --> 00:35:04,480
Speaker 4: a chance.

791
00:35:04,840 --> 00:35:05,600
Speaker 3: The power of us.

792
00:35:05,640 --> 00:35:09,000
Speaker 2: But the amazing level of confusion you caused through the

793
00:35:09,000 --> 00:35:11,239
Speaker 2: client that was, oh can we bleep out the name

794
00:35:11,239 --> 00:35:13,960
Speaker 2: of that? Because I don't bring up that company. All right,

795
00:35:13,960 --> 00:35:17,080
Speaker 2: we got to keep moving out. Let's knock this one

796
00:35:17,080 --> 00:35:20,000
Speaker 2: out and then take a break. Monday Night Football. Yes,

797
00:35:20,080 --> 00:35:23,320
Speaker 2: the aforementioned Jets coming off maybe the ugliest win in

798
00:35:23,520 --> 00:35:26,000
Speaker 2: history of pro football, but they did win, and they're

799
00:35:26,000 --> 00:35:30,480
Speaker 2: on a three game winning streak. Host the Los Angeles Chargers.

800
00:35:30,520 --> 00:35:34,520
Speaker 2: I feel like man three and a half. Chargers are

801
00:35:34,520 --> 00:35:36,960
Speaker 2: favored here on the road, which seems.

802
00:35:36,640 --> 00:35:39,600
Speaker 3: Weird too, Yes, it does. It didn't start that way.

803
00:35:39,440 --> 00:35:43,480
Speaker 5: That was an indication that everyone is putting money on

804
00:35:43,520 --> 00:35:45,560
Speaker 5: the Chargers. I think it was at two to begin with,

805
00:35:45,600 --> 00:35:47,440
Speaker 5: and it moved quite a bit. That's surprising.

806
00:35:47,640 --> 00:35:52,480
Speaker 2: I find this game almost impossible to figure out because

807
00:35:53,920 --> 00:35:57,880
Speaker 2: the Jets were terrible last week offensively and in general.

808
00:35:58,600 --> 00:36:00,560
Speaker 2: You know, as much as I loved the team, you

809
00:36:00,600 --> 00:36:05,360
Speaker 2: know they're winning record. If you look a little closer,

810
00:36:05,640 --> 00:36:07,520
Speaker 2: this is a team that could be one and six

811
00:36:07,600 --> 00:36:10,640
Speaker 2: right now. I mean they're they have really kind of

812
00:36:10,960 --> 00:36:14,279
Speaker 2: these coin flip games you could count. I guess the

813
00:36:14,360 --> 00:36:16,160
Speaker 2: Chiefs Sunday night far is kind of a coin flip,

814
00:36:16,200 --> 00:36:18,520
Speaker 2: but not really. They've won every coin flip so far,

815
00:36:18,560 --> 00:36:21,520
Speaker 2: and that maybe that keeps going on. But it doesn't

816
00:36:21,560 --> 00:36:23,719
Speaker 2: mean they're playing at an elite level right now, even

817
00:36:23,719 --> 00:36:26,200
Speaker 2: though they're on a winning streak. But the Chargers traveling

818
00:36:26,239 --> 00:36:30,200
Speaker 2: across the country in prime time against a good to

819
00:36:30,360 --> 00:36:33,439
Speaker 2: very good defense, that would spook me as well. Greg

820
00:36:33,440 --> 00:36:35,319
Speaker 2: If yeah, if I'm a Charger supporter.

821
00:36:35,239 --> 00:36:39,480
Speaker 5: Right I don't feel confident in this Chargers offense. They're

822
00:36:39,560 --> 00:36:42,520
Speaker 5: like really enjoying. I guess it's just their social media team,

823
00:36:42,560 --> 00:36:44,760
Speaker 5: but it's like they got that prime time like blowout

824
00:36:44,800 --> 00:36:46,800
Speaker 5: and they're enjoying the hell out of that. Was like, okay,

825
00:36:46,800 --> 00:36:49,000
Speaker 5: it was against Tyson Bajen in the Bear. Since week two,

826
00:36:49,360 --> 00:36:51,919
Speaker 5: this running attack that Kellen Moore wanted to get better

827
00:36:51,920 --> 00:36:55,359
Speaker 5: has the lowest success rate in the entire NFL by

828
00:36:55,400 --> 00:37:00,360
Speaker 5: a lot. So everything is on Herbert and there's no Micilliams.

829
00:37:00,400 --> 00:37:04,960
Speaker 5: They're not that explosive offensively, and the recipe of everything

830
00:37:04,960 --> 00:37:07,400
Speaker 5: on Herbert, and you have to throw the ball against

831
00:37:07,400 --> 00:37:11,280
Speaker 5: this Jets team, which is much better against the past

832
00:37:11,320 --> 00:37:14,680
Speaker 5: than they are defending the run. They're just great against Bethier.

833
00:37:15,200 --> 00:37:17,600
Speaker 5: They're getting to be special. Dan I was looking for special.

834
00:37:17,760 --> 00:37:19,680
Speaker 5: They're getting there in terms of their pass rush, in

835
00:37:19,760 --> 00:37:22,239
Speaker 5: terms of their coverage. And then you have a team

836
00:37:22,239 --> 00:37:24,120
Speaker 5: in the Chargers who can't run on normal downs and

837
00:37:24,360 --> 00:37:27,080
Speaker 5: are literally the worst team in the NFL on third

838
00:37:27,120 --> 00:37:28,080
Speaker 5: and one and fourth and one.

839
00:37:28,160 --> 00:37:29,440
Speaker 3: So it's everyone.

840
00:37:29,160 --> 00:37:31,680
Speaker 5: Gets on Kellen Moore because on Brandon Staley because he

841
00:37:31,680 --> 00:37:33,239
Speaker 5: goes for fourth and one of those works, like.

842
00:37:33,320 --> 00:37:34,600
Speaker 3: A lot of it is just there.

843
00:37:34,680 --> 00:37:37,000
Speaker 5: They stink get short yardage, and so that's a team

844
00:37:37,120 --> 00:37:39,279
Speaker 5: you're going against the Jets. It's a recipe for it

845
00:37:39,360 --> 00:37:41,279
Speaker 5: to come down to the last three minutes and in

846
00:37:41,320 --> 00:37:43,160
Speaker 5: that spot, I trust the Jets a little.

847
00:37:42,920 --> 00:37:45,720
Speaker 3: More than the Change have played well in Layton games.

848
00:37:46,040 --> 00:37:47,440
Speaker 1: There's no doubt about that they are.

849
00:37:47,680 --> 00:37:49,759
Speaker 4: I mean, I think this will be a glorious night

850
00:37:50,239 --> 00:37:52,280
Speaker 4: for the Jets and their fan base.

851
00:37:52,440 --> 00:37:54,560
Speaker 3: Is he gonna do it? Well, I just did it,

852
00:37:54,600 --> 00:37:56,799
Speaker 3: but I gonna do it. I don't trust.

853
00:37:56,880 --> 00:37:59,959
Speaker 4: Like a hot and cold mystery team, you know, flow

854
00:38:00,320 --> 00:38:03,279
Speaker 4: across the country to the East coast. They've been a

855
00:38:03,360 --> 00:38:06,560
Speaker 4: total They've been, to me, one of the more frustrating

856
00:38:06,600 --> 00:38:10,400
Speaker 4: teams of my adulthood. That is no more true than

857
00:38:10,480 --> 00:38:12,960
Speaker 4: under the Brandon Staley world. And I think you can

858
00:38:13,040 --> 00:38:15,080
Speaker 4: run on them too. I think it's a kind of

859
00:38:15,160 --> 00:38:17,440
Speaker 4: night where it's like a big breeze Hall night for

860
00:38:17,520 --> 00:38:20,600
Speaker 4: the super casual fans that aren't tracking like the Breeze

861
00:38:20,600 --> 00:38:23,000
Speaker 4: Halls of the world. Like this is a superstar running

862
00:38:23,040 --> 00:38:25,560
Speaker 4: back who needs a couple signature moments and this could

863
00:38:25,560 --> 00:38:27,920
Speaker 4: be one of them.

864
00:38:26,080 --> 00:38:26,360
Speaker 3: But I.

865
00:38:29,320 --> 00:38:31,319
Speaker 4: Think it's also maybe it's like a catch and run

866
00:38:31,360 --> 00:38:33,279
Speaker 4: type scenario with him, just get it to him out

867
00:38:33,280 --> 00:38:36,319
Speaker 4: in the flats. But I you know, the Chargers, like

868
00:38:36,360 --> 00:38:38,560
Speaker 4: the one thing that kind of rattled them earlier in

869
00:38:38,560 --> 00:38:40,399
Speaker 4: the year. They have a good offensive line in many ways,

870
00:38:40,440 --> 00:38:45,239
Speaker 4: but pressure against Justin Herbert late in games and key situations,

871
00:38:45,400 --> 00:38:47,480
Speaker 4: I just see that. I feel like the Jets are

872
00:38:47,480 --> 00:38:49,760
Speaker 4: gonna pull something off. With Bryce Huff, with Quinn Williams,

873
00:38:50,120 --> 00:38:53,239
Speaker 4: they apply more pressure than essentially anyone it's waved defenders,

874
00:38:53,560 --> 00:38:56,840
Speaker 4: and I don't like the idea of Justin Herbert repeating

875
00:38:56,880 --> 00:39:00,240
Speaker 4: what happened last week again. I don't trust this team

876
00:39:00,239 --> 00:39:02,080
Speaker 4: to go out and dominate two weeks in a row.

877
00:39:02,080 --> 00:39:04,560
Speaker 4: I expect something strange and unwatchable from them.

878
00:39:04,719 --> 00:39:07,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, it would surprise me if Herbert lit up the

879
00:39:07,640 --> 00:39:10,400
Speaker 2: Jets defense, although it could happen, but I don't think

880
00:39:10,480 --> 00:39:14,720
Speaker 2: he will. But for all the talk about the Jets

881
00:39:14,800 --> 00:39:16,920
Speaker 2: offense with Zach Wilson being better than last year, they

882
00:39:16,920 --> 00:39:20,280
Speaker 2: are thirtieth in average pass EPA, they are thirty first

883
00:39:20,920 --> 00:39:24,279
Speaker 2: and rush EPA. They are last in the league on

884
00:39:24,360 --> 00:39:27,680
Speaker 2: third down conversions. They are last in the league in

885
00:39:27,719 --> 00:39:30,920
Speaker 2: pressure rate allowed. This is a terrible offense. At least

886
00:39:30,960 --> 00:39:34,120
Speaker 2: they're dedicated to it, which is why I've been saying

887
00:39:34,239 --> 00:39:36,440
Speaker 2: for weeks and weeks that they should have done something

888
00:39:36,840 --> 00:39:39,360
Speaker 2: to fix it, whether it was a trade for a

889
00:39:39,400 --> 00:39:42,479
Speaker 2: wide receiver or on the offensive line, or get another

890
00:39:42,560 --> 00:39:45,799
Speaker 2: quarterback option in. Instead, they're just saying we're waiting for

891
00:39:45,880 --> 00:39:48,920
Speaker 2: Aaron and everything's gonna be okay. So that it is

892
00:39:48,960 --> 00:39:51,160
Speaker 2: going to be a tough watch, I think on offense again,

893
00:39:51,239 --> 00:39:53,719
Speaker 2: I just don't think the Jets are ever gonna turn

894
00:39:53,760 --> 00:39:56,200
Speaker 2: it on on offense. So it's gonna be these close

895
00:39:56,280 --> 00:40:00,719
Speaker 2: games hoping for a big play by the defen or

896
00:40:00,880 --> 00:40:03,279
Speaker 2: Zach wakes up and makes a couple throws late like

897
00:40:03,280 --> 00:40:05,560
Speaker 2: he did against the Giants. And then it's the special

898
00:40:05,560 --> 00:40:08,520
Speaker 2: teams of the Jets there, which has been excellent. They

899
00:40:08,600 --> 00:40:10,799
Speaker 2: won a game with Gibson in Week one on a

900
00:40:10,800 --> 00:40:14,919
Speaker 2: punt return. Greg zerline has been automatic so far this year.

901
00:40:15,000 --> 00:40:16,480
Speaker 2: For a team that doesn't get in the end zone,

902
00:40:16,520 --> 00:40:19,800
Speaker 2: that's huge. And then there is this, because we haven't

903
00:40:19,800 --> 00:40:23,960
Speaker 2: gone to the old Gymnasium in a while, let's head

904
00:40:24,760 --> 00:40:29,480
Speaker 2: to the Hunter's punch Bowl mixer. H it's not you know,

905
00:40:29,520 --> 00:40:32,560
Speaker 2: it's not as crazy as the Kicker Club.

906
00:40:32,960 --> 00:40:34,160
Speaker 3: Now. It's like salt of the Earth.

907
00:40:34,840 --> 00:40:39,040
Speaker 2: But here's the headline by the New York Post Steve Serby,

908
00:40:39,040 --> 00:40:43,920
Speaker 2: their veteran calumnist. Thomas Moristead is the Jets' unlikely weapon.

909
00:40:45,080 --> 00:40:48,600
Speaker 2: Did you know He's been unbelievable. He's been nails all

910
00:40:48,719 --> 00:40:51,440
Speaker 2: year for a team that needs the punter to give

911
00:40:51,440 --> 00:40:54,040
Speaker 2: them field position and set up the defense.

912
00:40:54,040 --> 00:40:54,320
Speaker 3: Well.

913
00:40:54,840 --> 00:40:55,920
Speaker 1: He became.

914
00:40:57,640 --> 00:41:00,960
Speaker 2: One of two punters in the past six seasons to

915
00:41:01,000 --> 00:41:05,000
Speaker 2: put three punts inside the five yard line in one game,

916
00:41:05,000 --> 00:41:06,680
Speaker 2: which he did against the Giants. And he has been

917
00:41:06,880 --> 00:41:09,279
Speaker 2: absolutely stellar. He's a Special Teams Player of the Week.

918
00:41:09,640 --> 00:41:12,360
Speaker 2: He's number two in punt yardage, number four and fewest

919
00:41:12,360 --> 00:41:16,239
Speaker 2: punt return yards allowed. I know it sounds like a

920
00:41:16,239 --> 00:41:18,440
Speaker 2: bit because we're in the gymnasium right now for the

921
00:41:18,480 --> 00:41:21,279
Speaker 2: punch bowl mixer, But for this type of team that

922
00:41:21,360 --> 00:41:25,040
Speaker 2: relies on defense and field possession, the kicker and the

923
00:41:25,080 --> 00:41:28,319
Speaker 2: punter being excellent has made the difference and it's a

924
00:41:28,360 --> 00:41:30,080
Speaker 2: reason why they are in playoff position.

925
00:41:30,080 --> 00:41:32,319
Speaker 5: I mean, what what a career. This is our time

926
00:41:32,360 --> 00:41:35,400
Speaker 5: to give Thomas morrisead his flowers. It was Thomas Morristead

927
00:41:35,400 --> 00:41:39,120
Speaker 5: who came out of halftime and kicked that on side

928
00:41:39,200 --> 00:41:41,600
Speaker 5: kick for the New Orleans Saints back in the day.

929
00:41:41,640 --> 00:41:44,120
Speaker 5: Had a great game punting there too in the Super Bowl.

930
00:41:44,560 --> 00:41:46,759
Speaker 5: Big day for Thomas unbelieve.

931
00:41:47,280 --> 00:41:50,040
Speaker 4: Sounds like these punters might even be slow dancing in

932
00:41:50,520 --> 00:41:53,560
Speaker 4: the situation with the you know the music, it is nice,

933
00:41:53,600 --> 00:41:54,520
Speaker 4: it is romantic.

934
00:41:54,960 --> 00:41:57,520
Speaker 2: Well yeah, babes too everywhere.

935
00:41:57,640 --> 00:41:59,320
Speaker 4: Oh okay, I didn't. I thought it was just punched.

936
00:41:59,400 --> 00:42:01,240
Speaker 4: Such a could be Peggy.

937
00:42:01,960 --> 00:42:03,800
Speaker 3: I'm not gonna say it's Joe Burrow.

938
00:42:03,960 --> 00:42:06,120
Speaker 5: But Joey Bosta showed up and looked healthy for the

939
00:42:06,160 --> 00:42:08,240
Speaker 5: first time all season last week, and I did wonder,

940
00:42:08,320 --> 00:42:10,560
Speaker 5: is like that a change for this Chargers defense.

941
00:42:10,600 --> 00:42:11,879
Speaker 3: He looked like Joey bost again.

942
00:42:11,920 --> 00:42:12,319
Speaker 1: That's big.

943
00:42:12,880 --> 00:42:15,279
Speaker 2: That's that game for me is a real toss up,

944
00:42:15,280 --> 00:42:17,799
Speaker 2: and I'm just gonna go with the Sessler feeling that

945
00:42:17,840 --> 00:42:21,240
Speaker 2: the Jets have a little pixie dust on him away again.

946
00:42:21,360 --> 00:42:24,279
Speaker 4: It's like you you can accept that one fourth of

947
00:42:24,280 --> 00:42:26,360
Speaker 4: what you're watching from the Jets is going to be terrible,

948
00:42:26,360 --> 00:42:28,560
Speaker 4: and that's their passing game and everything else is kind

949
00:42:28,560 --> 00:42:28,879
Speaker 4: of great.

950
00:42:29,000 --> 00:42:31,080
Speaker 2: Last note, my six year old son, Harry, he turned

951
00:42:31,080 --> 00:42:34,480
Speaker 2: seven this weekend. It's kind of like a Charges fan

952
00:42:34,520 --> 00:42:36,680
Speaker 2: and he has a Chargers T shirt and I sat

953
00:42:36,760 --> 00:42:39,440
Speaker 2: him down a couple days ago and I said, all right, Harrison,

954
00:42:39,800 --> 00:42:41,759
Speaker 2: the Jets and Chargers are playing on Monday night.

955
00:42:42,080 --> 00:42:42,880
Speaker 1: Who are you rooting for?

956
00:42:42,920 --> 00:42:45,720
Speaker 2: And I did it in a very serious, solemn way, because

957
00:42:45,719 --> 00:42:47,080
Speaker 2: he's you know, kids are fun like that.

958
00:42:47,600 --> 00:42:49,680
Speaker 1: He really put him in a different headspace. And he

959
00:42:49,760 --> 00:42:53,200
Speaker 1: was like, I don't know yet.

960
00:42:53,120 --> 00:42:55,080
Speaker 3: Daddy, good answer.

961
00:42:55,239 --> 00:42:56,640
Speaker 1: And I said, will you give me an answer by

962
00:42:56,640 --> 00:42:57,279
Speaker 1: the end of the week.

963
00:42:57,600 --> 00:43:01,959
Speaker 4: Said yeah, that is exactly how.

964
00:43:01,880 --> 00:43:05,360
Speaker 3: It talks to Harrison hands this impression.

965
00:43:05,680 --> 00:43:07,719
Speaker 2: All right, let's take a break and then we will

966
00:43:07,760 --> 00:43:11,200
Speaker 2: get to the draft. All right, we're back. We are

967
00:43:11,280 --> 00:43:16,200
Speaker 2: now finally to the draft and Mark Sessler bully to you,

968
00:43:16,239 --> 00:43:18,359
Speaker 2: my friend, you have the first overall pick. Well, it's

969
00:43:18,400 --> 00:43:21,480
Speaker 2: a great pick. You know, it's a late game. Let

970
00:43:21,560 --> 00:43:23,760
Speaker 2: me just cross it out. Cardinals at Brown, That's.

971
00:43:23,560 --> 00:43:26,640
Speaker 4: Exactly where I'm going with this. No, the Cowboys at

972
00:43:26,640 --> 00:43:30,120
Speaker 4: the Eagles. We have we keep having games of the year,

973
00:43:30,440 --> 00:43:32,319
Speaker 4: but they're building off of what we knew before. So

974
00:43:32,360 --> 00:43:34,120
Speaker 4: this is now the currently I think the game of

975
00:43:34,160 --> 00:43:36,759
Speaker 4: the year. And an interesting I don't think it's the

976
00:43:36,760 --> 00:43:37,360
Speaker 4: game of the week.

977
00:43:37,520 --> 00:43:38,239
Speaker 1: I think it is the.

978
00:43:38,200 --> 00:43:40,640
Speaker 4: Game of the year because I think, like there's for me,

979
00:43:41,360 --> 00:43:44,040
Speaker 4: Dallas is this is kind of like, come show and

980
00:43:44,080 --> 00:43:46,279
Speaker 4: tell us who you are, and I think they can

981
00:43:46,320 --> 00:43:47,400
Speaker 4: do it, Like I don't.

982
00:43:47,880 --> 00:43:50,040
Speaker 3: I would like them better in Dallas in this situation.

983
00:43:50,760 --> 00:43:53,759
Speaker 4: I think that if you get the best version of

984
00:43:54,239 --> 00:43:58,760
Speaker 4: Micah Parsons and their pass rush against the great offensive line.

985
00:43:59,239 --> 00:44:02,120
Speaker 4: There's another little injury thing hanging out through the Jalen Hurts,

986
00:44:02,160 --> 00:44:04,560
Speaker 4: who did not look healthy at all coming out of

987
00:44:04,560 --> 00:44:08,360
Speaker 4: that Dolphins game limping, ended a press conference earlier this

988
00:44:08,400 --> 00:44:10,960
Speaker 4: week when they asked him about his knee, he just

989
00:44:11,160 --> 00:44:12,800
Speaker 4: sort of said, not talking about that.

990
00:44:12,920 --> 00:44:15,000
Speaker 3: But Jay Glazer's talked about the fact that he's had a.

991
00:44:14,920 --> 00:44:17,200
Speaker 4: Bone bruise and he's been dealing with it for four weeks,

992
00:44:17,480 --> 00:44:18,600
Speaker 4: and you're gonna get less.

993
00:44:18,840 --> 00:44:20,680
Speaker 3: Played great week. I know it played great.

994
00:44:20,760 --> 00:44:22,440
Speaker 4: I guess what I'm saying is, if you can find

995
00:44:22,480 --> 00:44:25,360
Speaker 4: a way and this is the thing, can you nullify

996
00:44:25,400 --> 00:44:28,040
Speaker 4: aj Brown and DeVante Smith? If not, this thing is

997
00:44:28,080 --> 00:44:31,520
Speaker 4: probably not could potentially not be that close at all.

998
00:44:31,520 --> 00:44:34,279
Speaker 4: I mean, I could see Philadelphia just doing what Philadelphia does.

999
00:44:34,560 --> 00:44:37,480
Speaker 4: But can you challenge Hurts to have to get out

1000
00:44:37,520 --> 00:44:39,359
Speaker 4: of the pocket, to have to run a little bit more?

1001
00:44:39,880 --> 00:44:42,720
Speaker 4: I mean, I agree, he looked like fantastic week ago,

1002
00:44:42,920 --> 00:44:44,839
Speaker 4: but this injury has just been hanging around and it's

1003
00:44:44,840 --> 00:44:47,120
Speaker 4: just the kind of thing I'll monitor. And I last

1004
00:44:47,120 --> 00:44:49,359
Speaker 4: week's Dak Prescott and what they did to the Rams,

1005
00:44:49,360 --> 00:44:51,600
Speaker 4: because when they win, they blow teams out, and they

1006
00:44:51,640 --> 00:44:54,200
Speaker 4: kind of ended the Rams season potentially with what happened

1007
00:44:54,200 --> 00:44:56,200
Speaker 4: to Matthew Stafford. I mean, they kind of end the

1008
00:44:56,239 --> 00:44:58,400
Speaker 4: Giant season in Week one if you think about it.

1009
00:44:58,960 --> 00:45:01,000
Speaker 4: They debt when they were all when all parts of

1010
00:45:01,080 --> 00:45:03,480
Speaker 4: what they do are working like special teams. They got

1011
00:45:03,480 --> 00:45:07,160
Speaker 4: it last week. Defense, offense. It's like they are unpretty unstoppable.

1012
00:45:07,200 --> 00:45:09,400
Speaker 4: So it's like, can you come up? Can you do

1013
00:45:09,520 --> 00:45:11,600
Speaker 4: go through a week of practice in the biggest game

1014
00:45:11,640 --> 00:45:13,799
Speaker 4: of the year when I do have a doubts about

1015
00:45:13,800 --> 00:45:16,719
Speaker 4: who they are in big moments and just say forget it.

1016
00:45:16,840 --> 00:45:19,279
Speaker 4: Last year, Jalen Hurts and Dak Prescott never faced each other.

1017
00:45:19,320 --> 00:45:21,520
Speaker 4: You had Cooper Rush in one game, Gardner Minshew and

1018
00:45:21,520 --> 00:45:23,839
Speaker 4: the other. Now go do it one on one, see

1019
00:45:23,880 --> 00:45:24,280
Speaker 4: what happens.

1020
00:45:24,320 --> 00:45:25,680
Speaker 1: That's why it surprised me. Why you think this is

1021
00:45:25,680 --> 00:45:26,319
Speaker 1: the game of the week.

1022
00:45:26,640 --> 00:45:29,960
Speaker 2: But I'll say this, I think the Cowboys are the

1023
00:45:29,960 --> 00:45:31,800
Speaker 2: equivalent of what I was just saying with the Dolphins,

1024
00:45:31,840 --> 00:45:36,680
Speaker 2: because the Cowboys obviously failed a huge test against the

1025
00:45:36,760 --> 00:45:40,280
Speaker 2: Niners where they just were embarrassed, they got it handed

1026
00:45:40,320 --> 00:45:42,920
Speaker 2: to them and they kind of licked their wounds and

1027
00:45:43,000 --> 00:45:46,200
Speaker 2: recovered from that. But now here's another big test, and

1028
00:45:46,239 --> 00:45:48,759
Speaker 2: again it's these teams. If we are to take the

1029
00:45:48,760 --> 00:45:51,319
Speaker 2: Cowboys seriously, it is the Niners and the Eagles that

1030
00:45:51,360 --> 00:45:53,120
Speaker 2: they have to show that they are not going to

1031
00:45:53,160 --> 00:45:56,160
Speaker 2: be bullied by or kind of be brushed aside, or

1032
00:45:56,400 --> 00:45:59,799
Speaker 2: be the team that gets kind of laughed at on

1033
00:45:59,840 --> 00:46:02,680
Speaker 2: my morning because one of the big boys just pants

1034
00:46:02,680 --> 00:46:05,400
Speaker 2: them in a big spot. You got to go prove something.

1035
00:46:05,440 --> 00:46:06,799
Speaker 2: And I kind of like it, Greg you that the

1036
00:46:06,840 --> 00:46:08,759
Speaker 2: game's on the road, because if I'm going to take

1037
00:46:08,760 --> 00:46:10,920
Speaker 2: the Cowboys seriously, you got to have a couple of

1038
00:46:11,000 --> 00:46:13,480
Speaker 2: these wins on your resume, and going to Philly and

1039
00:46:13,520 --> 00:46:16,040
Speaker 2: taking out the Eagles would really change the dynamic in

1040
00:46:16,080 --> 00:46:16,640
Speaker 2: the NFC.

1041
00:46:16,920 --> 00:46:19,160
Speaker 5: I agree, and I will take them seriously even if

1042
00:46:19,200 --> 00:46:20,839
Speaker 5: they lose like a close game.

1043
00:46:20,960 --> 00:46:22,360
Speaker 1: Same thing what I said about the Dolphins.

1044
00:46:23,160 --> 00:46:24,759
Speaker 2: Yeah, if you go back and forth in the place,

1045
00:46:24,840 --> 00:46:26,440
Speaker 2: that's okay, but you can't get blown out.

1046
00:46:26,600 --> 00:46:29,160
Speaker 5: But to Mark's point, I don't know if it's the

1047
00:46:29,200 --> 00:46:31,600
Speaker 5: game of the year, but it might have the biggest

1048
00:46:31,800 --> 00:46:36,480
Speaker 5: impact in the super Bowl race of any regular season

1049
00:46:36,520 --> 00:46:38,319
Speaker 5: game for a while, because depending on how you want

1050
00:46:38,320 --> 00:46:42,000
Speaker 5: to look at the NFC, there's either three real deal

1051
00:46:42,120 --> 00:46:45,840
Speaker 5: Super Bowl contenders or there is like five, let's say,

1052
00:46:46,360 --> 00:46:48,239
Speaker 5: and four of them are in the same divisions, the

1053
00:46:48,239 --> 00:46:51,319
Speaker 5: West and the East. And the Eagles will get up

1054
00:46:51,600 --> 00:46:55,840
Speaker 5: two and a half games on the Cowboys with only

1055
00:46:55,920 --> 00:46:58,920
Speaker 5: eight to play. That's a pretty big margin if the

1056
00:46:58,960 --> 00:47:01,520
Speaker 5: Eagles can win this game. So if you're looking at

1057
00:47:01,520 --> 00:47:04,560
Speaker 5: like there's only three super Bowl contenders, one of them

1058
00:47:04,880 --> 00:47:06,680
Speaker 5: is gonna have to go on the road and win

1059
00:47:06,840 --> 00:47:10,040
Speaker 5: three games. Whoever comes in second place in the NFC East.

1060
00:47:10,080 --> 00:47:11,520
Speaker 5: I think you can throw more teams in there in

1061
00:47:11,520 --> 00:47:13,080
Speaker 5: the NFC West too, and that can be done, and

1062
00:47:13,080 --> 00:47:14,960
Speaker 5: it's been done right, and you can come back from

1063
00:47:14,960 --> 00:47:16,640
Speaker 5: two and a half games too. But it would be

1064
00:47:17,040 --> 00:47:20,640
Speaker 5: a size to use a mark word advantage to get

1065
00:47:20,719 --> 00:47:23,040
Speaker 5: this start. And I was I was worried about the

1066
00:47:23,080 --> 00:47:25,040
Speaker 5: Eagles because they did not look the same without Jalen

1067
00:47:25,080 --> 00:47:27,479
Speaker 5: Carter on defense last last week. I know Fletcher Cox

1068
00:47:27,560 --> 00:47:29,319
Speaker 5: is having his best season in a few years, but

1069
00:47:29,560 --> 00:47:32,480
Speaker 5: Carter is their best defensive player. They've been a mediocre,

1070
00:47:33,000 --> 00:47:37,879
Speaker 5: disappointing defense in general, but Carter is practicing fully and

1071
00:47:38,440 --> 00:47:41,160
Speaker 5: they've got you know, an extra secondary help with Gyros

1072
00:47:41,200 --> 00:47:45,080
Speaker 5: Burd Gyris and uh playing and ships back, so they're

1073
00:47:45,080 --> 00:47:47,720
Speaker 5: actually as healthy as they've been all year. I just wonder,

1074
00:47:47,800 --> 00:47:50,160
Speaker 5: like Nikobe Dean's out there. Nacobe Dean a good player.

1075
00:47:50,200 --> 00:47:52,360
Speaker 5: This is a game where I think they'll be targeting

1076
00:47:52,400 --> 00:47:54,480
Speaker 5: the linebacker position of Philly for a while.

1077
00:47:55,239 --> 00:47:57,439
Speaker 4: I think it's a huge moment for Mike McCarthy because

1078
00:47:57,440 --> 00:47:59,759
Speaker 4: a win, like I don't know it just this is

1079
00:47:59,800 --> 00:48:02,120
Speaker 4: that because I don't feel that way about Dolphins chiefs

1080
00:48:02,120 --> 00:48:04,480
Speaker 4: in terms of like if whatever happens to the Dolphins,

1081
00:48:04,560 --> 00:48:06,640
Speaker 4: like they're a new good team. You know, it's like

1082
00:48:06,680 --> 00:48:08,880
Speaker 4: there's there. They're with a second year head coach and

1083
00:48:08,920 --> 00:48:11,120
Speaker 4: they're like a new experience. Like this is sort of

1084
00:48:11,160 --> 00:48:13,279
Speaker 4: the Dallas DNA the last couple of seasons, the way

1085
00:48:13,280 --> 00:48:16,880
Speaker 4: that it ended, you Like, this is gonna be like

1086
00:48:17,160 --> 00:48:19,319
Speaker 4: if you can find a way to shut down, I'm

1087
00:48:19,360 --> 00:48:21,400
Speaker 4: one Philly's like ground game has not been great the

1088
00:48:21,480 --> 00:48:23,439
Speaker 4: last couple of weeks, Like that's because things are heating

1089
00:48:23,480 --> 00:48:25,680
Speaker 4: up through the air. I guess the question the inflection

1090
00:48:25,760 --> 00:48:28,000
Speaker 4: point is like, can you stop aj Brown? Who looks

1091
00:48:28,080 --> 00:48:29,600
Speaker 4: downright unstoppable to me?

1092
00:48:30,000 --> 00:48:32,600
Speaker 2: Now, yes, Brown has been We talked about earlier in

1093
00:48:32,640 --> 00:48:35,400
Speaker 2: the week. It could be in the MVP conversation. The Eagles,

1094
00:48:36,160 --> 00:48:38,719
Speaker 2: you know they are obviously what are they six in

1095
00:48:38,760 --> 00:48:41,400
Speaker 2: one right now? Like record wise, they are seven and

1096
00:48:41,440 --> 00:48:44,120
Speaker 2: one and a very good spot. And you know that

1097
00:48:44,120 --> 00:48:46,440
Speaker 2: that is the measure of a team that even if

1098
00:48:46,480 --> 00:48:48,640
Speaker 2: they haven't really clicked on all gears and the defense

1099
00:48:48,680 --> 00:48:51,480
Speaker 2: obviously it was a mess last week against Washington and

1100
00:48:51,520 --> 00:48:55,120
Speaker 2: the offenses had you know, stops and goes. The fact

1101
00:48:55,120 --> 00:48:58,040
Speaker 2: that they're seven to one is a testament to their

1102
00:48:58,080 --> 00:49:00,120
Speaker 2: superpower status that they find a way.

1103
00:49:00,800 --> 00:49:03,120
Speaker 1: However, let's keep an eye for.

1104
00:49:03,080 --> 00:49:04,960
Speaker 2: A team that hasn't really been able to put it

1105
00:49:05,000 --> 00:49:07,799
Speaker 2: all together despite the record. The next six weeks they

1106
00:49:07,880 --> 00:49:14,720
Speaker 2: have the Cowboys at Chiefs home, Buffalo home, Niners at

1107
00:49:14,760 --> 00:49:20,200
Speaker 2: Cowboys at Seahawks. That is a gauntlet like no other

1108
00:49:20,200 --> 00:49:21,319
Speaker 2: team faces all year.

1109
00:49:21,440 --> 00:49:23,440
Speaker 5: That makes this game even bigger, I think for the

1110
00:49:23,480 --> 00:49:27,160
Speaker 5: Philly to get that advantage, because if you lose it,

1111
00:49:27,239 --> 00:49:30,359
Speaker 5: suddenly everything looks a little different. Philadelphia is favored by three,

1112
00:49:30,440 --> 00:49:33,200
Speaker 5: so kind of the desert looks like at these two

1113
00:49:33,239 --> 00:49:36,360
Speaker 5: teams sees them pretty even. Philly hasn't been able to

1114
00:49:36,440 --> 00:49:39,080
Speaker 5: run well lately. That's a little concerning for them, and

1115
00:49:39,360 --> 00:49:41,520
Speaker 5: they are facing Dak on a heater. I know it's

1116
00:49:41,560 --> 00:49:45,000
Speaker 5: only two games, but if you just search like PFF

1117
00:49:45,160 --> 00:49:48,640
Speaker 5: from weeks six to eight, you know, first in PFF,

1118
00:49:49,160 --> 00:49:52,840
Speaker 5: first in EPA, fifth in completion percentage over expected. Basically

1119
00:49:53,560 --> 00:49:56,399
Speaker 5: as a DAK supporter, he's played two perfect games. They've

1120
00:49:56,400 --> 00:49:59,520
Speaker 5: been against pretty shaky defenses. This is a great test

1121
00:49:59,800 --> 00:50:02,080
Speaker 5: of if he's going to keep running the ball occasionally

1122
00:50:02,760 --> 00:50:05,319
Speaker 5: against a better defense in a big spot. If he

1123
00:50:05,360 --> 00:50:07,520
Speaker 5: continues a heater, then this team has I mean week

1124
00:50:07,600 --> 00:50:10,480
Speaker 5: seven was a bye, so week six through eight is right. Yeah,

1125
00:50:10,520 --> 00:50:13,520
Speaker 5: I'm saying those charge games. He basically had two perfect games.

1126
00:50:13,600 --> 00:50:15,879
Speaker 4: I guess I get like not to be general about

1127
00:50:15,920 --> 00:50:19,120
Speaker 4: Dak because it's that stuff annoys me too. But it's like, okay,

1128
00:50:19,320 --> 00:50:21,680
Speaker 4: like this is where we need Dak in you know,

1129
00:50:21,760 --> 00:50:24,720
Speaker 4: with the entire world watching, to absolutely be the best version.

1130
00:50:25,280 --> 00:50:27,719
Speaker 2: And I said last week ceedee lamb go be AJ

1131
00:50:27,800 --> 00:50:30,640
Speaker 2: Brown and then he was AJ Browning on Sunday. Now

1132
00:50:30,640 --> 00:50:33,000
Speaker 2: it's a J Brown v CD Lamb And if the

1133
00:50:33,040 --> 00:50:35,200
Speaker 2: Cowboys have any chance ceedee, Lamb is going to have

1134
00:50:35,239 --> 00:50:37,879
Speaker 2: to go kind of punch for punch with AJ Brown

1135
00:50:37,880 --> 00:50:38,880
Speaker 2: in terms of production.

1136
00:50:39,200 --> 00:50:42,760
Speaker 5: Let's see if it happens. All right, Greg, up next? Okay,

1137
00:50:42,800 --> 00:50:45,359
Speaker 5: you know where I'm going. I'm taking the Seahawks at

1138
00:50:45,400 --> 00:50:49,600
Speaker 5: the Ravens. It's in the early window. Look you, the

1139
00:50:49,680 --> 00:50:51,640
Speaker 5: Ravens are six point favorites.

1140
00:50:51,680 --> 00:50:52,120
Speaker 3: How about that?

1141
00:50:52,239 --> 00:50:55,600
Speaker 5: Jim Nance Tony Romo on this game. And this is

1142
00:50:55,640 --> 00:50:59,040
Speaker 5: the best week of games of the season because we

1143
00:50:59,120 --> 00:51:01,360
Speaker 5: not only have four great games. And I made a

1144
00:51:01,400 --> 00:51:04,560
Speaker 5: little list before the show. I came up with eleven

1145
00:51:04,640 --> 00:51:08,359
Speaker 5: teams six and the AFC five in the NFC where

1146
00:51:08,400 --> 00:51:09,919
Speaker 5: it wouldn't shock me if they won the Super Bowl.

1147
00:51:09,960 --> 00:51:10,879
Speaker 3: It's like a long list.

1148
00:51:11,239 --> 00:51:13,399
Speaker 5: Eight of those eleven teams are playing against each other

1149
00:51:13,440 --> 00:51:16,319
Speaker 5: this week in four kind of big games, and they're

1150
00:51:16,360 --> 00:51:19,080
Speaker 5: all in different windows, including that that early London went

1151
00:51:19,160 --> 00:51:20,560
Speaker 5: so you can you can focus on it.

1152
00:51:20,560 --> 00:51:22,359
Speaker 3: If you're the general fan. I love this.

1153
00:51:22,640 --> 00:51:26,280
Speaker 5: I am a little worried for the Seahawks offense because

1154
00:51:26,960 --> 00:51:30,480
Speaker 5: this is a team in Baltimore that really forces quarterbacks

1155
00:51:30,480 --> 00:51:33,279
Speaker 5: to make quick decisions, and Gino's really improved and not

1156
00:51:33,360 --> 00:51:36,880
Speaker 5: taking sacks. You can tell it was a point of emphasis.

1157
00:51:36,880 --> 00:51:38,520
Speaker 5: Get rid of the ball a little quicker, don't take

1158
00:51:38,560 --> 00:51:40,759
Speaker 5: as many sacks. That was probably his biggest weakness as

1159
00:51:40,800 --> 00:51:42,080
Speaker 5: a quarterback coming into this year.

1160
00:51:42,280 --> 00:51:43,520
Speaker 3: He's really improved on that.

1161
00:51:43,560 --> 00:51:46,920
Speaker 5: But sometimes he just then makes a throw that you

1162
00:51:47,000 --> 00:51:52,200
Speaker 5: shouldn't make. And Baltimore is really good at being creative

1163
00:51:52,239 --> 00:51:55,240
Speaker 5: and making quarterbacks make throws they shouldn't make and sending

1164
00:51:55,600 --> 00:51:58,239
Speaker 5: a lot at them. And they've overcome the injuries on

1165
00:51:58,280 --> 00:52:00,799
Speaker 5: their offensive line and they're maybe getting little healthier this

1166
00:52:00,840 --> 00:52:03,560
Speaker 5: week for Seattle, but I wouldn't say it's a strength

1167
00:52:03,600 --> 00:52:06,400
Speaker 5: for them against the team in Baltimore that leads the

1168
00:52:06,560 --> 00:52:09,760
Speaker 5: NFL in sacks. The positive is the wide receiver group's

1169
00:52:09,800 --> 00:52:12,799
Speaker 5: kind of coming together. Jsn slowly improving, Jake Bobo, he's

1170
00:52:12,840 --> 00:52:15,160
Speaker 5: a thing. Lockett finally had his best game last week.

1171
00:52:15,239 --> 00:52:18,560
Speaker 5: DK Metcalf, who has been injured, is healthy. So if

1172
00:52:18,560 --> 00:52:20,160
Speaker 5: there is a team that I think could go up

1173
00:52:20,200 --> 00:52:23,120
Speaker 5: and down with Baltimore like it would be Seattle, But

1174
00:52:23,120 --> 00:52:24,279
Speaker 5: they need their defense.

1175
00:52:23,960 --> 00:52:24,440
Speaker 3: To show up.

1176
00:52:26,000 --> 00:52:29,960
Speaker 2: Watching the game this morning, the Seattle game against Cleveland,

1177
00:52:30,000 --> 00:52:34,239
Speaker 2: and great job going down the field stealing that game

1178
00:52:34,239 --> 00:52:36,520
Speaker 2: from the Browns who had the ball with a couple

1179
00:52:36,560 --> 00:52:38,880
Speaker 2: of minutes to go before PJ Walker through an interception.

1180
00:52:40,719 --> 00:52:43,200
Speaker 1: The GINO thing can't hide from it. It is.

1181
00:52:43,680 --> 00:52:46,200
Speaker 3: He threw two interceptions.

1182
00:52:46,200 --> 00:52:48,279
Speaker 2: He threw a bad red zone pick, he threw a

1183
00:52:48,320 --> 00:52:51,080
Speaker 2: pick over the middle, there's a really nice athletic play

1184
00:52:51,120 --> 00:52:54,120
Speaker 2: by the defensive lineman. And then he had a late

1185
00:52:54,160 --> 00:52:57,520
Speaker 2: in the third quarter Gift wrapped a potential pick six

1186
00:52:57,560 --> 00:52:58,320
Speaker 2: that was dropped.

1187
00:52:58,760 --> 00:53:00,879
Speaker 3: There was a real there's a real Greg where he's

1188
00:53:00,960 --> 00:53:03,840
Speaker 3: I was a miscommunication with JSN for sure, but that's gonna.

1189
00:53:03,800 --> 00:53:06,919
Speaker 2: Enters the fourth quarter with three interceptions and they're down

1190
00:53:06,960 --> 00:53:09,239
Speaker 2: twenty seven to seventeen. I think he's living a little

1191
00:53:09,239 --> 00:53:12,320
Speaker 2: bit dangerously, no doubt, and he's getting away with some things,

1192
00:53:12,400 --> 00:53:14,200
Speaker 2: and he had some low throws in that game.

1193
00:53:14,360 --> 00:53:17,399
Speaker 1: In general, I don't know what like but the story.

1194
00:53:17,520 --> 00:53:20,400
Speaker 2: I'm sure his PFF grade is great, Greg, But like

1195
00:53:20,760 --> 00:53:24,600
Speaker 2: watching these games, it feels like every week now it's

1196
00:53:24,640 --> 00:53:26,400
Speaker 2: a bit of a tight rope walk and when is

1197
00:53:26,400 --> 00:53:29,319
Speaker 2: he going to fall off and have a really bad game?

1198
00:53:29,400 --> 00:53:30,879
Speaker 3: And I think it could be this game.

1199
00:53:31,040 --> 00:53:33,880
Speaker 5: I think that's fair because the difference is like like

1200
00:53:33,920 --> 00:53:36,520
Speaker 5: those Browns games, those two first two drives. I was expecting, Okay,

1201
00:53:36,560 --> 00:53:38,200
Speaker 5: I'm going to see Geno in rhythm. It was actually

1202
00:53:38,280 --> 00:53:41,160
Speaker 5: Geno kind of creating second reaction plays after the pressure

1203
00:53:41,640 --> 00:53:42,200
Speaker 5: got there.

1204
00:53:42,280 --> 00:53:43,640
Speaker 3: So it's similar.

1205
00:53:43,760 --> 00:53:46,600
Speaker 5: It's a it's Gino coasters within games now where I

1206
00:53:46,640 --> 00:53:48,960
Speaker 5: think there's a lot of high level stuff that's making

1207
00:53:49,040 --> 00:53:49,600
Speaker 5: up for the.

1208
00:53:49,560 --> 00:53:52,319
Speaker 3: Bad throws his first touchdown passes. It's a dangerous way

1209
00:53:52,360 --> 00:53:54,480
Speaker 3: to live. I know that drive was excellent.

1210
00:53:54,520 --> 00:53:56,880
Speaker 5: I am worried about yea, I am worried about this matchup.

1211
00:53:56,920 --> 00:53:59,200
Speaker 5: I mean, I think anyone would be in Baltimore right now.

1212
00:53:59,360 --> 00:54:02,880
Speaker 4: Man, they're giving Seattle six points that that surprised me

1213
00:54:02,880 --> 00:54:04,839
Speaker 4: a little bit. I think that the Geno thing. I'm

1214
00:54:04,840 --> 00:54:07,759
Speaker 4: with you Dan entirely. That was a tough game to

1215
00:54:07,800 --> 00:54:11,000
Speaker 4: watch because you're watching a team directed by you know,

1216
00:54:11,200 --> 00:54:16,480
Speaker 4: Walker who's making disastrous throws all over the place, massive

1217
00:54:16,520 --> 00:54:19,400
Speaker 4: turnover worthy issues, and you're you're hanging around because of

1218
00:54:19,400 --> 00:54:23,280
Speaker 4: your defense and like that dropped pick six was huge.

1219
00:54:23,320 --> 00:54:25,359
Speaker 4: But I think the other side to Gino is that

1220
00:54:26,040 --> 00:54:29,080
Speaker 4: in these games you see him operating with like pretty

1221
00:54:29,120 --> 00:54:31,320
Speaker 4: intense confidence that he can make big plays down the

1222
00:54:31,360 --> 00:54:34,160
Speaker 4: field too, and there's been some spectacular deep shots.

1223
00:54:34,160 --> 00:54:35,719
Speaker 3: But it is a coaster.

1224
00:54:35,480 --> 00:54:38,759
Speaker 2: Inside a coaster inside a coaster, right, and Lamar has

1225
00:54:38,800 --> 00:54:40,720
Speaker 2: been it's a Russian doll of Gino Smith.

1226
00:54:40,760 --> 00:54:43,640
Speaker 5: Lamar has been more consistent. I don't think his gift

1227
00:54:43,680 --> 00:54:46,279
Speaker 5: idea for Greg I will you know Smith, Russian doll.

1228
00:54:46,400 --> 00:54:48,799
Speaker 5: I would love it. And I look at this. I

1229
00:54:48,840 --> 00:54:50,440
Speaker 5: look at this Baltimore team, though, and I just see

1230
00:54:50,480 --> 00:54:52,600
Speaker 5: they can win so many different types of ways. They're

1231
00:54:52,640 --> 00:54:54,960
Speaker 5: actually getting healthier. They didn't make any moves at the deadline.

1232
00:54:55,000 --> 00:54:58,880
Speaker 5: There was reporting from the athletic that they went pretty

1233
00:54:58,880 --> 00:55:02,000
Speaker 5: hard after Derrick Henry that they would have liked that,

1234
00:55:02,040 --> 00:55:03,839
Speaker 5: but they weren't going to go and give them like

1235
00:55:04,360 --> 00:55:08,239
Speaker 5: a first or a high, you know, side condition. So

1236
00:55:08,280 --> 00:55:10,120
Speaker 5: they were interested. But I think they looked at the

1237
00:55:10,120 --> 00:55:12,080
Speaker 5: team they had and they said, look, we're winning all

1238
00:55:12,120 --> 00:55:14,439
Speaker 5: sorts of ways. We have a really effective running game.

1239
00:55:14,760 --> 00:55:16,400
Speaker 5: The passing game is a little up and down, but

1240
00:55:16,440 --> 00:55:18,680
Speaker 5: we can do it. We can win with a rund evens,

1241
00:55:18,680 --> 00:55:20,839
Speaker 5: we can run with our past even I just think

1242
00:55:21,000 --> 00:55:22,120
Speaker 5: right now they might be.

1243
00:55:22,040 --> 00:55:23,720
Speaker 3: The most complete team in the NFL.

1244
00:55:23,800 --> 00:55:26,640
Speaker 5: They're getting it going and and it hurts me, but

1245
00:55:26,680 --> 00:55:28,239
Speaker 5: I'm trying to take the emotion out of it. I'm

1246
00:55:28,239 --> 00:55:30,120
Speaker 5: going to actually lock against the Seahawks, so I'm going

1247
00:55:30,160 --> 00:55:32,120
Speaker 5: either way.

1248
00:55:32,239 --> 00:55:33,000
Speaker 1: It is so weird.

1249
00:55:34,120 --> 00:55:36,239
Speaker 5: I just I don't like any other Locks. I was like,

1250
00:55:36,320 --> 00:55:39,000
Speaker 5: I really do think they're the best part for me.

1251
00:55:40,200 --> 00:55:41,080
Speaker 3: That's amazing.

1252
00:55:41,920 --> 00:55:45,040
Speaker 2: I don't hate it, I know, but it's such a

1253
00:55:45,120 --> 00:55:47,080
Speaker 2: It's a look into the mind of Greg that I

1254
00:55:47,160 --> 00:55:49,680
Speaker 2: knew this game was going to give you trouble emotionally,

1255
00:55:50,680 --> 00:55:53,000
Speaker 2: and well you kind of downplayed it last week. But

1256
00:55:53,080 --> 00:55:55,880
Speaker 2: now that I am this is heightened the fact that

1257
00:55:55,920 --> 00:55:56,879
Speaker 2: it blocked one of the two.

1258
00:55:56,880 --> 00:55:57,560
Speaker 3: Well, it is weird.

1259
00:55:58,440 --> 00:56:00,400
Speaker 5: I still, in my heart will be rooting for the

1260
00:56:00,440 --> 00:56:04,080
Speaker 5: Seahawks that outweighs the Locks, like slightly.

1261
00:56:04,200 --> 00:56:06,279
Speaker 3: But I do believe the Ravens will win.

1262
00:56:06,600 --> 00:56:10,720
Speaker 5: What I believe as I'm wearing my rain Maker sweatshirt

1263
00:56:11,200 --> 00:56:13,080
Speaker 5: check it out, by the way, checked out, So people

1264
00:56:13,120 --> 00:56:15,239
Speaker 5: were looking on Instagram like where they could buy this,

1265
00:56:15,360 --> 00:56:16,680
Speaker 5: and I did find the link.

1266
00:56:16,719 --> 00:56:17,960
Speaker 3: I will try to put it up. You know.

1267
00:56:18,320 --> 00:56:23,200
Speaker 5: It's you know, whenever, whenever Iddris Elba can make a

1268
00:56:23,320 --> 00:56:27,640
Speaker 5: sweatshirt with the NFL promoting his charity, and it randomly

1269
00:56:27,680 --> 00:56:30,520
Speaker 5: says rain maker on it, and nobody knows why you

1270
00:56:30,560 --> 00:56:31,759
Speaker 5: gotta get it right.

1271
00:56:31,880 --> 00:56:33,440
Speaker 3: You might have had some influence in that.

1272
00:56:33,480 --> 00:56:33,799
Speaker 1: We don't know.

1273
00:56:33,880 --> 00:56:35,440
Speaker 3: I don't think so nobody knows.

1274
00:56:35,440 --> 00:56:37,680
Speaker 2: It hasn't really been brought up by Greg, but I

1275
00:56:37,760 --> 00:56:39,719
Speaker 2: personally engineered him getting this sweat.

1276
00:56:39,840 --> 00:56:41,640
Speaker 5: You did a great job. You were at the store.

1277
00:56:41,680 --> 00:56:43,399
Speaker 5: You said, look at this, thank you very much.

1278
00:56:43,400 --> 00:56:46,560
Speaker 2: That's he and we gotta we gotta get this Greg,

1279
00:56:46,600 --> 00:56:48,719
Speaker 2: and I went and I went on the rack and

1280
00:56:48,760 --> 00:56:51,399
Speaker 2: I sought out the proper size for you too, and

1281
00:56:51,480 --> 00:56:52,000
Speaker 2: I I.

1282
00:56:52,040 --> 00:56:54,400
Speaker 5: Uh, oh, yeah, you said, I said, I will venue

1283
00:56:54,400 --> 00:56:56,640
Speaker 5: you right now, get me the smallest size they have,

1284
00:56:57,040 --> 00:56:58,080
Speaker 5: and then you got it for free.

1285
00:56:58,120 --> 00:57:00,759
Speaker 3: So look at you now. Henry obviously play a major role.

1286
00:57:00,960 --> 00:57:03,799
Speaker 2: But if I don't, if I don't elevate, that is

1287
00:57:03,840 --> 00:57:04,920
Speaker 2: something that needs to happen.

1288
00:57:05,120 --> 00:57:05,799
Speaker 1: You're not wearing that.

1289
00:57:05,960 --> 00:57:07,960
Speaker 5: I I give you. I want to give you all

1290
00:57:07,960 --> 00:57:09,320
Speaker 5: the flowers, but let's.

1291
00:57:09,120 --> 00:57:10,240
Speaker 1: Take it to what I'm really.

1292
00:57:12,120 --> 00:57:12,640
Speaker 3: Flowers.

1293
00:57:12,719 --> 00:57:15,760
Speaker 2: I'm not looking for flowers. I'm looking for a taste

1294
00:57:15,760 --> 00:57:19,040
Speaker 2: of the action. If you ended up moving units of

1295
00:57:19,080 --> 00:57:21,120
Speaker 2: this and you get a taste, well, I don't got

1296
00:57:21,120 --> 00:57:21,640
Speaker 2: to catch.

1297
00:57:23,160 --> 00:57:23,960
Speaker 3: Uh to zeuser.

1298
00:57:24,200 --> 00:57:26,080
Speaker 5: In fact, my size is sold out, I noticed, but

1299
00:57:26,120 --> 00:57:28,240
Speaker 5: there are still large and extra largest available.

1300
00:57:29,120 --> 00:57:33,120
Speaker 2: Let's get too Uh see this stinks because we oh, well, well,

1301
00:57:33,200 --> 00:57:33,920
Speaker 2: so many great.

1302
00:57:33,720 --> 00:57:34,800
Speaker 3: Games you got you got.

1303
00:57:37,560 --> 00:57:40,720
Speaker 5: We're like an hour into the show, so there's nothing left.

1304
00:57:40,880 --> 00:57:45,400
Speaker 2: There's literally nothing left that excites me. In fact, Greg,

1305
00:57:45,440 --> 00:57:46,560
Speaker 2: can you pick my game for me?

1306
00:57:47,040 --> 00:57:47,520
Speaker 3: I like that?

1307
00:57:48,200 --> 00:57:51,960
Speaker 5: Okay, Well, now I'm gonna make self interested.

1308
00:57:52,160 --> 00:57:54,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, do whatever you want because there's nothing here that.

1309
00:57:54,480 --> 00:57:58,520
Speaker 5: Okay, I'm gonna give you Commander's Patriots Commander's page.

1310
00:57:58,560 --> 00:58:00,919
Speaker 2: Okay, that's fine because I'm not gonna because as hard

1311
00:58:00,960 --> 00:58:01,920
Speaker 2: as the other I don't know.

1312
00:58:02,000 --> 00:58:03,560
Speaker 3: You told me to give you one. I was like,

1313
00:58:03,600 --> 00:58:05,640
Speaker 3: what game do I not want to watch? So that's

1314
00:58:05,640 --> 00:58:06,720
Speaker 3: how that's all right?

1315
00:58:06,760 --> 00:58:07,439
Speaker 1: You're out, Mark.

1316
00:58:07,480 --> 00:58:11,200
Speaker 3: Can you pick me a game and self interesting? Okay?

1317
00:58:11,720 --> 00:58:14,360
Speaker 3: Let's see here. What would you pick if you were

1318
00:58:14,440 --> 00:58:18,400
Speaker 3: in the spot? Ben job? Greg mcmufic, Okay, you know

1319
00:58:18,440 --> 00:58:20,320
Speaker 3: what I would pick. I would know you're out, Mark,

1320
00:58:20,440 --> 00:58:24,280
Speaker 3: Mark is. The draft has been pushed to Mark intensely. Bleak.

1321
00:58:24,800 --> 00:58:26,480
Speaker 4: There's injuries all over the place.

1322
00:58:26,960 --> 00:58:28,960
Speaker 3: I'm a weirdo. I'm telling you what I would pick.

1323
00:58:28,960 --> 00:58:31,480
Speaker 5: I would pick Vikings Falcons and get in on Jaron Hall,

1324
00:58:31,680 --> 00:58:32,720
Speaker 5: hannicking to see what they.

1325
00:58:32,680 --> 00:58:34,640
Speaker 3: Are going on over there. No, no, no, that's what

1326
00:58:34,640 --> 00:58:35,200
Speaker 3: I would.

1327
00:58:34,960 --> 00:58:39,120
Speaker 4: How about a little C. J. Stroud verse Baker Mayfield

1328
00:58:39,120 --> 00:58:39,920
Speaker 4: Tampa ed Houston.

1329
00:58:40,080 --> 00:58:42,720
Speaker 1: All right, well I'm gonna take them both. How about that?

1330
00:58:42,760 --> 00:58:45,320
Speaker 2: Those are my next two picks. Okay, let's start with

1331
00:58:45,400 --> 00:58:46,760
Speaker 2: the Vikings at Falcons.

1332
00:58:48,280 --> 00:58:51,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's post Kirk. Now it's Jaron Hall.

1333
00:58:52,040 --> 00:58:54,520
Speaker 3: Maybe we ever know if Josh stabs Josh.

1334
00:58:54,280 --> 00:58:55,520
Speaker 1: Dobbs in the building.

1335
00:58:55,560 --> 00:58:58,240
Speaker 2: They did get him, so there's a I guess a

1336
00:58:58,280 --> 00:59:00,960
Speaker 2: possibility he plays. Once upon a time last year Baker

1337
00:59:00,960 --> 00:59:03,520
Speaker 2: played on a couple of days. Noticed for the Rams.

1338
00:59:04,440 --> 00:59:06,080
Speaker 2: Do you need to get Josh Dobbs in a game

1339
00:59:06,120 --> 00:59:07,960
Speaker 2: at all costs? No, I'd rather take a look at

1340
00:59:07,960 --> 00:59:11,480
Speaker 2: the kid and then see make an evaluation after four quarters.

1341
00:59:11,800 --> 00:59:16,600
Speaker 2: But the Vikings also are quietly amidst all the trauma

1342
00:59:16,960 --> 00:59:19,920
Speaker 2: that the season is a crude now due to injury.

1343
00:59:19,920 --> 00:59:22,000
Speaker 2: On a three game winning streak, they got back to

1344
00:59:22,040 --> 00:59:24,200
Speaker 2: five hundred. They are in the thicke of things. I

1345
00:59:24,200 --> 00:59:26,400
Speaker 2: think they hold the seventh playoff spot in the NFC.

1346
00:59:26,760 --> 00:59:29,720
Speaker 2: As action kicks off and there is intrigue with the

1347
00:59:29,760 --> 00:59:33,960
Speaker 2: Falcons now I mean it. I will give the slightest

1348
00:59:34,000 --> 00:59:38,960
Speaker 2: amount of credit to Arthur Smith, who's terrible. He finally

1349
00:59:39,440 --> 00:59:43,840
Speaker 2: finally made a decision in the team's best interest rather

1350
00:59:43,880 --> 00:59:46,439
Speaker 2: than what would show that he's smarter than everyone else,

1351
00:59:46,720 --> 00:59:51,680
Speaker 2: and he benches Desmond Ritter. He's a backup quarterback, as

1352
00:59:51,680 --> 00:59:54,920
Speaker 2: he always was. Who knows what would have happened with

1353
00:59:54,920 --> 00:59:57,200
Speaker 2: this super soft schedule they have if he would have

1354
00:59:57,200 --> 01:00:00,320
Speaker 2: pulled the trigger a month ago and gotten in what

1355
01:00:00,400 --> 01:00:03,080
Speaker 2: I think is a very good backup quarterback in Taylor Heineke.

1356
01:00:03,720 --> 01:00:05,360
Speaker 1: Maybe they are in the.

1357
01:00:05,280 --> 01:00:08,240
Speaker 2: Mix versus the first or second seed in the NFC.

1358
01:00:08,400 --> 01:00:11,200
Speaker 2: It's not crazy when you think about their schedule and

1359
01:00:11,240 --> 01:00:14,680
Speaker 2: what's lies ahead. But now they have a quarterback who

1360
01:00:14,680 --> 01:00:18,480
Speaker 2: can potentially get hot. And again, this is the general

1361
01:00:18,520 --> 01:00:21,280
Speaker 2: idea of the Falcons heading into the season is, oh,

1362
01:00:21,320 --> 01:00:24,480
Speaker 2: they could be fun this year because they have Drake London,

1363
01:00:24,760 --> 01:00:27,960
Speaker 2: because they have Kyle Pitts, because they have Beejean Robinson.

1364
01:00:28,400 --> 01:00:32,920
Speaker 2: They have pieces here ostensibly, a good offensive mind, a

1365
01:00:33,040 --> 01:00:36,600
Speaker 2: head coach that can pull some levers here. Okay, none

1366
01:00:36,640 --> 01:00:38,120
Speaker 2: of that worked, but now you have a guy in

1367
01:00:38,200 --> 01:00:40,880
Speaker 2: Heineke who could sling it a little bit, and let's

1368
01:00:40,920 --> 01:00:44,280
Speaker 2: see if he's allowed to throw the ball and they

1369
01:00:44,280 --> 01:00:46,080
Speaker 2: can get a good mix of pass and run if

1370
01:00:46,120 --> 01:00:49,160
Speaker 2: the Falcons offense does actually show real signs of life.

1371
01:00:49,240 --> 01:00:51,400
Speaker 1: They certainly did in the half Heinekee played on Sunday.

1372
01:00:51,440 --> 01:00:53,520
Speaker 3: It had to happen. It had to happen.

1373
01:00:53,560 --> 01:00:55,439
Speaker 4: And I think, like what you're pointing to with Arthur

1374
01:00:55,480 --> 01:00:57,400
Speaker 4: Smith is something we all see that. It's just like

1375
01:00:57,440 --> 01:01:00,200
Speaker 4: the messaging around it was confusing. I don't care at

1376
01:01:00,200 --> 01:01:03,440
Speaker 4: this point he's in. We need to see the change.

1377
01:01:03,480 --> 01:01:05,600
Speaker 4: That said, the thing that I think is a little

1378
01:01:05,600 --> 01:01:10,160
Speaker 4: interesting is that like Ridder's numbers and Heineke's numbers in

1379
01:01:10,200 --> 01:01:12,160
Speaker 4: general are like almost identical.

1380
01:01:12,400 --> 01:01:14,240
Speaker 3: But that's why I can't trust numbers like that. I

1381
01:01:14,400 --> 01:01:17,000
Speaker 3: I agree with that Heikey is Washington numbers.

1382
01:01:17,360 --> 01:01:19,480
Speaker 4: Yeah, but I would say Heineck in general is no

1383
01:01:19,600 --> 01:01:23,320
Speaker 4: stranger to like perilous decisions, of course, but I find

1384
01:01:23,360 --> 01:01:25,280
Speaker 4: him to be an adventurer and I like tailor. Heinecke

1385
01:01:25,440 --> 01:01:28,000
Speaker 4: was like, no matter what the Desmond Ridder train was

1386
01:01:28,080 --> 01:01:30,640
Speaker 4: like careening into a wall, you had to do this

1387
01:01:30,840 --> 01:01:34,240
Speaker 4: and if it works. Suddenly an offense that has a

1388
01:01:34,240 --> 01:01:36,720
Speaker 4: lot of pieces if they can play and sync better

1389
01:01:36,760 --> 01:01:38,439
Speaker 4: and you can get this vision of whatever this Arthur

1390
01:01:38,440 --> 01:01:40,520
Speaker 4: Smith offense actually wants to be this year.

1391
01:01:40,840 --> 01:01:41,800
Speaker 3: You're here's something.

1392
01:01:41,880 --> 01:01:43,760
Speaker 5: I don't think the vision's gonna happen because they're running

1393
01:01:43,760 --> 01:01:46,400
Speaker 5: game stinks. And that doesn't have to do with Desmond Ridder.

1394
01:01:46,520 --> 01:01:48,480
Speaker 4: Yeah, but then ask question have to be flexible with

1395
01:01:48,680 --> 01:01:49,880
Speaker 4: Ramish what you do, right?

1396
01:01:49,960 --> 01:01:52,360
Speaker 5: But I just mean that was the vision and that's

1397
01:01:52,400 --> 01:01:53,360
Speaker 5: the biggest problem.

1398
01:01:53,520 --> 01:01:54,320
Speaker 3: That's a big problem.

1399
01:01:54,840 --> 01:01:56,960
Speaker 2: But I think the failures of the quarterback could play

1400
01:01:56,960 --> 01:01:59,680
Speaker 2: a role in the running games failures as well. Here's

1401
01:01:59,680 --> 01:02:02,800
Speaker 2: the quest I have Because Desmond Ridder was put in

1402
01:02:02,840 --> 01:02:06,880
Speaker 2: a caretaker role and failed. Okay, do you think that

1403
01:02:07,160 --> 01:02:10,440
Speaker 2: Greg Taylor Heineke will be put in the same type

1404
01:02:10,440 --> 01:02:13,040
Speaker 2: of role or they're gonna take this as a chance

1405
01:02:13,080 --> 01:02:14,760
Speaker 2: to try to open up the offense a little bit

1406
01:02:14,960 --> 01:02:17,160
Speaker 2: and maybe that changes things in the running game as well.

1407
01:02:18,040 --> 01:02:19,520
Speaker 5: So I think they should. I think they should just

1408
01:02:19,560 --> 01:02:21,840
Speaker 5: go for it. I think they were going for it

1409
01:02:21,840 --> 01:02:24,520
Speaker 5: with Ridder. They were very heavy pass run like he

1410
01:02:24,680 --> 01:02:26,480
Speaker 5: was throwing a ton. He was throwing a ton down

1411
01:02:26,520 --> 01:02:30,360
Speaker 5: the field. That just wasn't good. Like they went pretty

1412
01:02:30,400 --> 01:02:33,440
Speaker 5: heavy pass because I think everyone was just building to

1413
01:02:33,440 --> 01:02:35,480
Speaker 5: stop the run, which which makes sense, and I think

1414
01:02:35,520 --> 01:02:37,040
Speaker 5: they'll probably do that with Heineke too.

1415
01:02:37,040 --> 01:02:38,280
Speaker 3: I think this is a tough matchup.

1416
01:02:38,720 --> 01:02:40,760
Speaker 5: The Falcons are a four and a half point favorite,

1417
01:02:40,800 --> 01:02:42,480
Speaker 5: and I know we don't know anything about Jaron Hall.

1418
01:02:42,920 --> 01:02:43,960
Speaker 3: He's a fifth round rookie.

1419
01:02:43,960 --> 01:02:46,760
Speaker 5: He's got a little bit of mobility, he's twenty five.

1420
01:02:47,520 --> 01:02:51,320
Speaker 3: He's a little different than what you would expect.

1421
01:02:51,320 --> 01:02:54,520
Speaker 5: You know, he's at Utah where was there BYU forever

1422
01:02:54,800 --> 01:02:58,160
Speaker 5: and he's like not a huge arm or anything like that.

1423
01:02:58,880 --> 01:03:01,840
Speaker 5: But Kevin O'Connell with a backup quarterback, like and it's

1424
01:03:01,880 --> 01:03:04,120
Speaker 5: a tough matchup. It might just go sideways. But I

1425
01:03:04,160 --> 01:03:05,880
Speaker 5: hate giving the Falcons four and a half right now

1426
01:03:05,920 --> 01:03:08,560
Speaker 5: because I look at the Vikings defense and I think,

1427
01:03:08,880 --> 01:03:12,640
Speaker 5: right now that's the best group in this game. The

1428
01:03:12,720 --> 01:03:14,880
Speaker 5: Vikings defense is pretty good. It's like a top ten

1429
01:03:14,920 --> 01:03:19,040
Speaker 5: DVOA defense. And you got a defense that is different

1430
01:03:19,040 --> 01:03:21,560
Speaker 5: than any other. Do you have a coaching staff in

1431
01:03:21,600 --> 01:03:24,400
Speaker 5: Atlanta and a quarterback in Atlanta that's gonna be ready

1432
01:03:24,400 --> 01:03:26,520
Speaker 5: to deal with all this? Because the forty nine ers

1433
01:03:26,600 --> 01:03:29,960
Speaker 5: really weren't. The Packers certainly weren't. I could absolutely see

1434
01:03:29,960 --> 01:03:32,840
Speaker 5: Tyler Heineke like turning it over four times and the

1435
01:03:32,920 --> 01:03:35,840
Speaker 5: Vikings feeling pretty great and winning this game, like if

1436
01:03:35,920 --> 01:03:37,240
Speaker 5: Jaron Hall gives them anything.

1437
01:03:37,320 --> 01:03:39,280
Speaker 3: So I don't like four and a half at all.

1438
01:03:40,200 --> 01:03:42,040
Speaker 5: I think I'm gonna pick the Vikings to win this

1439
01:03:42,080 --> 01:03:44,840
Speaker 5: game on game debut, and not that that matters here,

1440
01:03:44,880 --> 01:03:47,280
Speaker 5: but I just feel better. I think they're good. I

1441
01:03:47,280 --> 01:03:49,440
Speaker 5: think they're good the Vikings, so I don't know, we'll

1442
01:03:49,440 --> 01:03:49,960
Speaker 5: see about it.

1443
01:03:50,200 --> 01:03:51,439
Speaker 3: Their defense is getting better.

1444
01:03:51,520 --> 01:03:53,040
Speaker 5: I don't know a lot of it was Kirk Cousins.

1445
01:03:53,080 --> 01:03:55,720
Speaker 5: You're right, he really was playing like a top three quarterback.

1446
01:03:55,760 --> 01:03:58,120
Speaker 5: But I just think they've got something going here.

1447
01:03:58,200 --> 01:04:00,919
Speaker 4: One thing Dan, because it's it's not that it looked good,

1448
01:04:00,960 --> 01:04:04,040
Speaker 4: but they had Ridder throw the ball in five five

1449
01:04:04,080 --> 01:04:06,439
Speaker 4: of these games thirty one times, thirty two, thirty seven,

1450
01:04:06,520 --> 01:04:09,919
Speaker 4: thirty eight, and forty seven. So it's like that's kind

1451
01:04:09,920 --> 01:04:11,720
Speaker 4: of what you'd want Taylor Heineke to do, and like

1452
01:04:11,760 --> 01:04:12,960
Speaker 4: you're just hoping it's a better verse.

1453
01:04:13,080 --> 01:04:15,360
Speaker 3: I don't like. I don't like that against Minnesota.

1454
01:04:15,400 --> 01:04:17,320
Speaker 5: I think a lot, but they need to get it

1455
01:04:17,520 --> 01:04:21,000
Speaker 5: going on the ground and maybe you're right, maybe they can't.

1456
01:04:21,080 --> 01:04:23,640
Speaker 5: Even just having a better quarterback to extend drives helps

1457
01:04:23,800 --> 01:04:26,080
Speaker 5: the running game because you just get more attempts at it.

1458
01:04:26,120 --> 01:04:29,920
Speaker 2: And asking, you know, after your quarterbacks inability to protect

1459
01:04:29,920 --> 01:04:31,520
Speaker 2: the ball, being like, oh, we got to fix this

1460
01:04:31,560 --> 01:04:34,600
Speaker 2: by turning to Tailor Heinike. That's not necessarily going to

1461
01:04:34,680 --> 01:04:36,640
Speaker 2: end well, but in general they had to go.

1462
01:04:37,000 --> 01:04:38,000
Speaker 3: Oh they had to do it. Yeah.

1463
01:04:38,040 --> 01:04:41,280
Speaker 2: I just feel like Heinekey is going to be a

1464
01:04:41,320 --> 01:04:42,400
Speaker 2: more professional option.

1465
01:04:42,600 --> 01:04:45,520
Speaker 5: Just feels very Falcony week. Then lose this game after

1466
01:04:45,600 --> 01:04:47,920
Speaker 5: all that. That's all I'm saying. Falcons fans know what

1467
01:04:47,920 --> 01:04:48,360
Speaker 5: I'm talking.

1468
01:04:49,400 --> 01:04:53,680
Speaker 2: All right, my second game will be sorry Mark Hampa

1469
01:04:53,720 --> 01:04:54,160
Speaker 2: Bay here.

1470
01:04:54,480 --> 01:04:55,840
Speaker 1: I kind of the Texans.

1471
01:04:55,840 --> 01:04:57,560
Speaker 2: I still I know I'm supposed to like watching the

1472
01:04:57,560 --> 01:04:58,520
Speaker 2: textan it's not there for me.

1473
01:04:58,800 --> 01:05:00,919
Speaker 4: And I looked at every game, Yeah, and I found

1474
01:05:00,960 --> 01:05:03,240
Speaker 4: a problem with every game. Yeah, I'll pick your problem.

1475
01:05:03,280 --> 01:05:03,760
Speaker 1: I'll go with A.

1476
01:05:03,880 --> 01:05:05,960
Speaker 2: I'll go with a gallery of the grotesque here, let's

1477
01:05:06,000 --> 01:05:08,520
Speaker 2: go with the Giants at the Raiders because I want

1478
01:05:08,520 --> 01:05:12,080
Speaker 2: to pair. I'm definitely watching Cowboys Eagles, so let's pair

1479
01:05:12,280 --> 01:05:15,640
Speaker 2: with A. It's like a Sovin Blanc, Well, you know

1480
01:05:15,680 --> 01:05:17,200
Speaker 2: I'm gonna give it, and then I'm gonna have like

1481
01:05:17,200 --> 01:05:21,360
Speaker 2: an Ecto cooler and it's gonna be Giants coming off.

1482
01:05:21,640 --> 01:05:24,479
Speaker 2: I mean again, as I was saying in the text

1483
01:05:24,560 --> 01:05:26,720
Speaker 2: thread with my New York friends who are virtually all

1484
01:05:26,760 --> 01:05:30,200
Speaker 2: Giants fans, I'm calling it the ninety nine percent game.

1485
01:05:30,960 --> 01:05:33,120
Speaker 2: When the Giants had the ninety nine percent chance to

1486
01:05:33,160 --> 01:05:34,520
Speaker 2: win on Sunday.

1487
01:05:34,680 --> 01:05:35,720
Speaker 3: You must be a delight on that.

1488
01:05:35,800 --> 01:05:36,840
Speaker 1: Oh wonderful.

1489
01:05:37,160 --> 01:05:40,240
Speaker 2: But trust me, being the Jet fan in a world

1490
01:05:40,320 --> 01:05:43,480
Speaker 2: of Giants fans has been a difficult run for about

1491
01:05:43,480 --> 01:05:46,040
Speaker 2: forty years. So the Giants fans can deal with that.

1492
01:05:46,960 --> 01:05:49,800
Speaker 2: You lose the ninety nine percent game, and now you

1493
01:05:49,920 --> 01:05:53,600
Speaker 2: get the Raiders. And it's interesting that the Raiders are

1494
01:05:53,720 --> 01:05:56,120
Speaker 2: favored by point and a half with all of their

1495
01:05:56,200 --> 01:06:00,400
Speaker 2: misery right now, all of their dysfunction, the fact that

1496
01:06:00,440 --> 01:06:03,880
Speaker 2: Aidan O'Connell is the new quarterback, and you could say,

1497
01:06:03,920 --> 01:06:06,360
Speaker 2: well that that could be better, and I believe it,

1498
01:06:06,440 --> 01:06:08,560
Speaker 2: so I don't. I wish I could cite who the

1499
01:06:08,560 --> 01:06:10,640
Speaker 2: report was. There was a report out there that the

1500
01:06:10,680 --> 01:06:13,560
Speaker 2: announcement was made of Jimmy g has been benched. Aidan

1501
01:06:13,640 --> 01:06:16,800
Speaker 2: O'Connell is going in and someone within the team was like, well,

1502
01:06:16,840 --> 01:06:18,840
Speaker 2: that makes sense, he's the best quarterback on the team.

1503
01:06:19,520 --> 01:06:21,480
Speaker 2: There was a general vibe, and I think there were

1504
01:06:21,480 --> 01:06:25,439
Speaker 2: some whispers from our insiders that in general, the idea

1505
01:06:25,480 --> 01:06:29,680
Speaker 2: of Garoppolo as QB one always wasn't clicking behind the scenes,

1506
01:06:29,680 --> 01:06:31,320
Speaker 2: that he just wasn't playing well, whether it was in

1507
01:06:31,400 --> 01:06:34,360
Speaker 2: training camp, in practices, and certainly.

1508
01:06:34,040 --> 01:06:36,320
Speaker 5: Probably a bad sign when you have to have surgery

1509
01:06:36,400 --> 01:06:38,760
Speaker 5: on your foot before you've ever taken a snap and

1510
01:06:38,800 --> 01:06:40,920
Speaker 5: you had to like move things around because you couldn't

1511
01:06:40,920 --> 01:06:43,240
Speaker 5: pass a physical right and then you hurt your back,

1512
01:06:43,480 --> 01:06:44,439
Speaker 5: I think that's a good sign.

1513
01:06:44,520 --> 01:06:47,760
Speaker 2: In retrospect, it was a total doom scenario and the

1514
01:06:47,760 --> 01:06:49,680
Speaker 2: fact that it was like, oh, Josh McDaniels needs to

1515
01:06:49,720 --> 01:06:52,320
Speaker 2: be reunited with Jimmy G. All that stuff is gone,

1516
01:06:52,320 --> 01:06:54,160
Speaker 2: so it makes sense Jimmy G, by the way, is

1517
01:06:54,160 --> 01:06:55,760
Speaker 2: going to get the same exact situation.

1518
01:06:55,880 --> 01:06:56,040
Speaker 1: Now.

1519
01:06:56,040 --> 01:06:58,600
Speaker 2: You will not see him again because the reason they

1520
01:06:58,880 --> 01:07:01,760
Speaker 2: made card disappear last year's last two weeks is they

1521
01:07:01,760 --> 01:07:05,400
Speaker 2: didn't want to trigger the guaranteed money the injury designation

1522
01:07:05,520 --> 01:07:08,720
Speaker 2: there and Jimmy G is the most frougient quarterback in

1523
01:07:08,720 --> 01:07:10,520
Speaker 2: the league. So he's gone and they're gonna get rid

1524
01:07:10,520 --> 01:07:11,880
Speaker 2: of him at the end of the year. So it's

1525
01:07:11,920 --> 01:07:16,040
Speaker 2: Aidan O'Connell against the Giants. I didn't fork the Giants

1526
01:07:16,040 --> 01:07:19,240
Speaker 2: a couple weeks ago after that Jets loss.

1527
01:07:19,280 --> 01:07:21,160
Speaker 3: That's tough, tough sitch, tough beat.

1528
01:07:21,320 --> 01:07:23,240
Speaker 2: But now you've got the number seven seed for instances

1529
01:07:23,280 --> 01:07:26,200
Speaker 2: the Vikings, who are a team that's obviously on life support.

1530
01:07:26,800 --> 01:07:28,240
Speaker 1: I like the Giants in this game.

1531
01:07:28,720 --> 01:07:32,000
Speaker 5: I think it's the fired coach principle. That's why the

1532
01:07:32,080 --> 01:07:32,840
Speaker 5: Raiders are.

1533
01:07:32,920 --> 01:07:34,960
Speaker 3: Oh, I don't even know what is that for people?

1534
01:07:35,040 --> 01:07:39,840
Speaker 5: Well, the Spice Rack is the number one proponent of this,

1535
01:07:40,080 --> 01:07:43,720
Speaker 5: just that the record of interim head coaches in their

1536
01:07:43,760 --> 01:07:45,720
Speaker 5: first game is extraordinary.

1537
01:07:45,760 --> 01:07:48,840
Speaker 3: Actually curious to see what the point is on that.

1538
01:07:48,880 --> 01:07:49,800
Speaker 3: But it feels like.

1539
01:07:49,720 --> 01:07:52,960
Speaker 5: All the Raiders are suddenly gonna play play harder this week.

1540
01:07:52,960 --> 01:07:56,640
Speaker 5: I actually believe that's possible, you know, with McDaniels out

1541
01:07:56,640 --> 01:07:59,800
Speaker 5: of the building, Daniel dot Jones probably returning for this game.

1542
01:08:00,520 --> 01:08:02,200
Speaker 5: I think it's a big nine games for him. I

1543
01:08:02,240 --> 01:08:04,000
Speaker 5: think it's a big nine games for Evan Neil, who

1544
01:08:04,040 --> 01:08:06,800
Speaker 5: might be coming back. They might get Andrew Thomas Beck

1545
01:08:06,840 --> 01:08:08,960
Speaker 5: I mean, this is about evaluation for the Giants. Evan

1546
01:08:09,000 --> 01:08:12,840
Speaker 5: Neil is kind of skirted without much attention, as you know,

1547
01:08:12,840 --> 01:08:15,280
Speaker 5: one of the most disappointing Top ten picks in the

1548
01:08:15,320 --> 01:08:18,760
Speaker 5: last few years. He's really struggled, and so you got

1549
01:08:18,800 --> 01:08:20,479
Speaker 5: to protect Danny Dimes if he does come back.

1550
01:08:21,320 --> 01:08:21,720
Speaker 3: I don't know.

1551
01:08:21,760 --> 01:08:23,760
Speaker 5: I mean, it's I'm not sure he is expected to

1552
01:08:23,800 --> 01:08:25,320
Speaker 5: come back, to be clear, Like you've.

1553
01:08:25,160 --> 01:08:26,400
Speaker 3: Got Max Crosby in this game.

1554
01:08:26,439 --> 01:08:28,320
Speaker 4: The last time we saw Daniel Jones, he was getting

1555
01:08:28,360 --> 01:08:30,960
Speaker 4: absolutely blistered and was happening week after week, and it's like,

1556
01:08:30,960 --> 01:08:33,599
Speaker 4: you're not going to fix this Giant's offensive line. They

1557
01:08:33,640 --> 01:08:36,120
Speaker 4: all if you take away that thirty one points they

1558
01:08:36,200 --> 01:08:38,719
Speaker 4: scored against the Cardinals, they already are last in scoring.

1559
01:08:38,960 --> 01:08:41,080
Speaker 4: They averaged nine point one points per game. And I

1560
01:08:41,360 --> 01:08:45,959
Speaker 4: know it's like it's a soup of issues. But like everything,

1561
01:08:46,160 --> 01:08:48,200
Speaker 4: the shine that was on Brian Dable a year ago

1562
01:08:49,120 --> 01:08:51,240
Speaker 4: is completely off. It's like I don't see a well

1563
01:08:51,240 --> 01:08:53,760
Speaker 4: coached team. And I've been higher on them a year ago,

1564
01:08:53,840 --> 01:08:56,080
Speaker 4: and I know they've had injuries, but every team has

1565
01:08:56,120 --> 01:08:57,360
Speaker 4: banged up also, league.

1566
01:08:57,640 --> 01:09:00,160
Speaker 2: They were an impossible sit and it was from a

1567
01:09:00,439 --> 01:09:03,519
Speaker 2: team building situation. It was on them, but the fact

1568
01:09:03,560 --> 01:09:06,080
Speaker 2: that their third string quarterback they couldn't even trust him

1569
01:09:06,080 --> 01:09:07,360
Speaker 2: to pass the way I point to the rest of

1570
01:09:07,360 --> 01:09:09,439
Speaker 2: the season though, But what I well, I guess what

1571
01:09:09,479 --> 01:09:13,120
Speaker 2: I'm saying is like, if you have that Tommy DeVito

1572
01:09:13,160 --> 01:09:16,000
Speaker 2: disaster set up, I will give the offensive line credit

1573
01:09:16,280 --> 01:09:19,760
Speaker 2: that the Jets, who are very good defense, knew he

1574
01:09:19,760 --> 01:09:22,680
Speaker 2: couldn't run the ball, they couldn't throw the ball, and

1575
01:09:22,760 --> 01:09:24,720
Speaker 2: he's still and this is a credit to Saquon too.

1576
01:09:24,760 --> 01:09:26,599
Speaker 2: They still went over like one hundred and twenty five

1577
01:09:26,680 --> 01:09:29,880
Speaker 2: yards rushing, so that there's some credit to be had there.

1578
01:09:29,880 --> 01:09:33,439
Speaker 2: I think it's also interesting that they were being so

1579
01:09:33,600 --> 01:09:36,559
Speaker 2: careful with Daniel Jones and then after the DeVito nightmare,

1580
01:09:36,600 --> 01:09:38,280
Speaker 2: all of a sudden, it'say, yep, now you're in. You're

1581
01:09:38,280 --> 01:09:42,000
Speaker 2: back in. We'll see if he's healthy. But it's it's

1582
01:09:42,040 --> 01:09:44,160
Speaker 2: a game. It's a it's a curiosity.

1583
01:09:44,160 --> 01:09:46,400
Speaker 1: Put it that way. And one last thing here, no

1584
01:09:46,439 --> 01:09:47,920
Speaker 1: revenge game for Darren Waller.

1585
01:09:47,960 --> 01:09:50,479
Speaker 2: He is out. It sounds like multiple weeks with that

1586
01:09:50,560 --> 01:09:53,000
Speaker 2: hamstring injury. All right, Greg, you're up.

1587
01:09:54,240 --> 01:09:58,320
Speaker 5: I'm going to take a ram that Packers. This is

1588
01:09:58,360 --> 01:10:01,680
Speaker 5: where we're at. Halfway in favorites for the Packers. If

1589
01:10:01,720 --> 01:10:05,200
Speaker 5: I have a great early game, I want one that

1590
01:10:05,240 --> 01:10:07,760
Speaker 5: doesn't get needed full attention, and that's the Rams that

1591
01:10:07,800 --> 01:10:10,479
Speaker 5: the Packers. Unfortunately, right now, Packers one of the worst

1592
01:10:10,520 --> 01:10:15,040
Speaker 5: teams in the NFL. And uh, there's some optimism since

1593
01:10:15,080 --> 01:10:18,000
Speaker 5: we last talk about Matthew Stafford in the sense that

1594
01:10:18,200 --> 01:10:20,240
Speaker 5: I think, whatever the worst case scenario him going on

1595
01:10:20,280 --> 01:10:22,120
Speaker 5: injured reserve, that's not happening.

1596
01:10:22,400 --> 01:10:24,840
Speaker 3: He didn't practice Wednesday. They're not ruling them out.

1597
01:10:25,040 --> 01:10:28,320
Speaker 5: They tried to sign John Wolford in between, and so

1598
01:10:28,360 --> 01:10:30,640
Speaker 5: they got John Wolford paid because then the Bucks were like,

1599
01:10:30,640 --> 01:10:34,120
Speaker 5: we're not letting you take so they elevated him to

1600
01:10:34,120 --> 01:10:34,840
Speaker 5: the active roster.

1601
01:10:34,960 --> 01:10:38,439
Speaker 4: Didn't Wolford say he didn't want to go to the Rams.

1602
01:10:38,520 --> 01:10:40,439
Speaker 3: I didn't know that part. But you didn't argue.

1603
01:10:40,479 --> 01:10:41,760
Speaker 4: I mean, I guess you know you moved like you

1604
01:10:41,840 --> 01:10:43,479
Speaker 4: probably got kids in school. It's like, I don't want

1605
01:10:43,479 --> 01:10:46,280
Speaker 4: to go back to the Rams. That really I don't

1606
01:10:46,320 --> 01:10:49,040
Speaker 4: think right now, but I don't think you have a choice. Anyways,

1607
01:10:49,320 --> 01:10:51,200
Speaker 4: I know you don't have a choice. If the Bucks

1608
01:10:51,240 --> 01:10:54,759
Speaker 4: wanted to keep them, they can keep them, so they did. Anyways,

1609
01:10:54,760 --> 01:10:56,840
Speaker 4: it just shows where the Rams are at in terms

1610
01:10:56,880 --> 01:11:00,599
Speaker 4: of their backup that it's gonna be Brett Ripping most likely,

1611
01:11:00,640 --> 01:11:03,360
Speaker 4: although it sounds like Stafford, you know, could push and

1612
01:11:03,360 --> 01:11:06,800
Speaker 4: try to play if they did. I think if he did,

1613
01:11:06,880 --> 01:11:08,320
Speaker 4: you know, I would I would like them in this game,

1614
01:11:08,479 --> 01:11:11,040
Speaker 4: not because I would like any question Packers. The Packers

1615
01:11:11,040 --> 01:11:13,639
Speaker 4: are maybe the worst team in the NFL. I mean, yeah,

1616
01:11:13,680 --> 01:11:17,719
Speaker 4: they're possibly, They're in the mix. Their defense is terrible too. Mark,

1617
01:11:17,760 --> 01:11:18,920
Speaker 4: I'm gonna ask you a question.

1618
01:11:19,760 --> 01:11:23,920
Speaker 2: Because we know each other very well and the various

1619
01:11:23,920 --> 01:11:27,599
Speaker 2: things that make us tick as football fans and observers.

1620
01:11:27,080 --> 01:11:28,120
Speaker 3: You could say a lot here.

1621
01:11:28,280 --> 01:11:33,960
Speaker 2: You were exhausted by the Packers in the Aaron Rodgers era,

1622
01:11:34,520 --> 01:11:38,120
Speaker 2: and then you said repeatedly that you felt revitalized in

1623
01:11:38,240 --> 01:11:40,960
Speaker 2: terms of watching the Packers now that there's new blood

1624
01:11:40,960 --> 01:11:44,639
Speaker 2: there and Jordan Love. Do you still enjoy watching these Packers?

1625
01:11:44,640 --> 01:11:46,559
Speaker 2: Does it give you any juice? Or are you now

1626
01:11:46,760 --> 01:11:47,400
Speaker 2: spowered on them?

1627
01:11:47,479 --> 01:11:48,439
Speaker 3: Not in the least.

1628
01:11:48,479 --> 01:11:51,479
Speaker 4: I mean, I don't think I think any human would

1629
01:11:51,479 --> 01:11:54,280
Speaker 4: have a similar response. Packers fans especially are not enjoying

1630
01:11:54,280 --> 01:11:57,839
Speaker 4: the experience. I think it's like pretty telling that Goody

1631
01:11:58,840 --> 01:12:00,920
Speaker 4: talked pretty openly about the fact that like the rest

1632
01:12:00,960 --> 01:12:03,519
Speaker 4: of the season was kind of like, you know, support,

1633
01:12:03,520 --> 01:12:05,600
Speaker 4: we support Jordan Love, but a bit of a referendum

1634
01:12:05,600 --> 01:12:07,680
Speaker 4: on where they go. It's like, this may not be

1635
01:12:07,880 --> 01:12:09,960
Speaker 4: a multiple year situation with Jordan Love.

1636
01:12:10,120 --> 01:12:12,559
Speaker 5: I think they're weirdly, even the Love is their guy

1637
01:12:12,600 --> 01:12:14,559
Speaker 5: and they gave them a two year contract, but they.

1638
01:12:14,439 --> 01:12:16,200
Speaker 3: Can get out of it.

1639
01:12:16,320 --> 01:12:18,439
Speaker 5: Weirdly, Jordan Love's taking a lot of the heat that

1640
01:12:18,520 --> 01:12:21,360
Speaker 5: Goody and Lafleur should be taking because, like you put

1641
01:12:21,360 --> 01:12:23,720
Speaker 5: it all on Jordan Love. They put so many resources

1642
01:12:23,760 --> 01:12:27,080
Speaker 5: into that defense. They're twenty eighth in DVA, they are

1643
01:12:27,160 --> 01:12:29,200
Speaker 5: dead last and plays per drive allowed.

1644
01:12:29,240 --> 01:12:30,559
Speaker 3: They just can't get off the field.

1645
01:12:30,600 --> 01:12:32,960
Speaker 5: Okay, so you're gonna play very safe on defense and

1646
01:12:33,040 --> 01:12:35,320
Speaker 5: let them go. Well, the second part of that is

1647
01:12:35,320 --> 01:12:37,760
Speaker 5: that we'll make some turnovers because we're keeping them. You know,

1648
01:12:37,760 --> 01:12:40,320
Speaker 5: we're keeping our eyes on the quarterback. They're terrible at

1649
01:12:40,320 --> 01:12:43,240
Speaker 5: making any big plays. And that's all Lafleur and that's

1650
01:12:43,280 --> 01:12:45,760
Speaker 5: all Goody. They brought back Joe Berry. That's where they

1651
01:12:45,760 --> 01:12:47,960
Speaker 5: put their draft picks. They did all of this. Those

1652
01:12:48,000 --> 01:12:51,160
Speaker 5: are their decisions. They're just as disappointing, if not more

1653
01:12:51,200 --> 01:12:53,960
Speaker 5: on defense, I would say that offense. So it's it's

1654
01:12:54,000 --> 01:12:55,760
Speaker 5: on the coach and it's on the GM more than

1655
01:12:55,760 --> 01:12:57,679
Speaker 5: it is on Jordan Love, who's not playing well either.

1656
01:12:57,720 --> 01:13:01,400
Speaker 2: On here, Love ranks last rate among the thirty two

1657
01:13:01,479 --> 01:13:05,559
Speaker 2: qualified quarterbacks. He's even behind Zach Wilson. The Packers rank

1658
01:13:05,600 --> 01:13:07,800
Speaker 2: twenty fifth in total yards per game, they're twenty first

1659
01:13:08,160 --> 01:13:12,200
Speaker 2: and passing yards per game. And I didn't really love

1660
01:13:12,280 --> 01:13:14,599
Speaker 2: some of the reporting, or I should say, the headline

1661
01:13:15,080 --> 01:13:17,000
Speaker 2: writing around Guda Kuntz.

1662
01:13:17,320 --> 01:13:20,080
Speaker 1: Where's the Brian Guda kuntzk theme song? By the way,

1663
01:13:20,080 --> 01:13:20,639
Speaker 1: I haven't heard.

1664
01:13:20,520 --> 01:13:22,400
Speaker 5: That one, it's been a while. That's more of a

1665
01:13:22,479 --> 01:13:25,679
Speaker 5: like a spicy best it is Germany.

1666
01:13:25,880 --> 01:13:29,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, but you know what gives it a little pathos

1667
01:13:29,560 --> 01:13:33,000
Speaker 2: when when there's bad things happening as well, there's that

1668
01:13:33,120 --> 01:13:34,799
Speaker 2: edge to that. Yeah, there's a little bit of anger

1669
01:13:34,840 --> 01:13:37,600
Speaker 2: and angst to this anthem there. It was kind of

1670
01:13:37,600 --> 01:13:41,000
Speaker 2: reported that the Packers are not sure if Jordan loves

1671
01:13:41,000 --> 01:13:43,200
Speaker 2: the answer, and we kind of know that. But I

1672
01:13:43,280 --> 01:13:46,400
Speaker 2: think what he did say, like these next ten games

1673
01:13:46,479 --> 01:13:50,560
Speaker 2: or whatever are very important, like so that is I

1674
01:13:50,600 --> 01:13:53,599
Speaker 2: don't think it's as silacious as maybe it could be presented,

1675
01:13:54,160 --> 01:13:56,720
Speaker 2: but it makes sense like he needs to show more

1676
01:13:56,720 --> 01:13:59,519
Speaker 2: than he's shown. Certainly in the last five weeks or so,

1677
01:13:59,560 --> 01:14:00,679
Speaker 2: it started out pretty well.

1678
01:14:01,040 --> 01:14:02,880
Speaker 5: And if they're really gone off a cliff, yeah, if

1679
01:14:02,920 --> 01:14:04,400
Speaker 5: the Rams want to be one of those teams that

1680
01:14:04,600 --> 01:14:06,360
Speaker 5: could get in the seventh Mix, which they could with

1681
01:14:06,400 --> 01:14:08,599
Speaker 5: I think a healthy Stafford, you got to win this game,

1682
01:14:08,680 --> 01:14:09,960
Speaker 5: find a way, even with Brett Rippon.

1683
01:14:10,000 --> 01:14:11,200
Speaker 3: I wouldn't rule it.

1684
01:14:11,120 --> 01:14:13,880
Speaker 2: Out getting that three and a half. Your boy, Adam

1685
01:14:13,920 --> 01:14:16,519
Speaker 2: A mean is on that one. By the way, Gregg's boy.

1686
01:14:16,760 --> 01:14:20,800
Speaker 5: Yeah, is he the and he's buried guys outa that Spurouditus.

1687
01:14:20,800 --> 01:14:21,639
Speaker 1: Excuse me, I'm.

1688
01:14:21,479 --> 01:14:25,599
Speaker 5: Sorry, but we like Adam I mean sure, Chicago guy,

1689
01:14:26,600 --> 01:14:29,080
Speaker 5: all right, I think he does the bulls Mark, I'm

1690
01:14:29,080 --> 01:14:30,120
Speaker 5: all over the league pass.

1691
01:14:30,200 --> 01:14:33,439
Speaker 1: Good job, bud uh Mark, you're up.

1692
01:14:33,600 --> 01:14:33,720
Speaker 3: Well.

1693
01:14:33,760 --> 01:14:36,080
Speaker 4: It would be disingenuous if I had picked a game

1694
01:14:36,080 --> 01:14:38,800
Speaker 4: that I thought would be entertaining for you to skip

1695
01:14:38,880 --> 01:14:41,000
Speaker 4: it myself. So I'm gonna go Tampa Bay at Houston.

1696
01:14:41,120 --> 01:14:42,759
Speaker 1: And this is Texans by two and a half.

1697
01:14:42,840 --> 01:14:45,559
Speaker 4: And for the reason I mentioned the CJ. Stroud factor here,

1698
01:14:45,880 --> 01:14:49,360
Speaker 4: I think he struggled last week. Carolina made things difficult

1699
01:14:49,439 --> 01:14:51,000
Speaker 4: for him. He still does things.

1700
01:14:51,280 --> 01:14:55,479
Speaker 2: What I'm just saying, don't let Cardinals Browns get back

1701
01:14:55,520 --> 01:14:57,000
Speaker 2: to me on the draft because I will.

1702
01:14:56,800 --> 01:14:59,280
Speaker 3: Take Yeah, that's it? Is it that? Actually?

1703
01:14:59,360 --> 01:15:03,120
Speaker 4: Yeah, there's a lot of really disastro stuff happening there.

1704
01:15:03,160 --> 01:15:05,160
Speaker 4: But I have this is a snake draft for me,

1705
01:15:05,240 --> 01:15:06,280
Speaker 4: so I could pick it next.

1706
01:15:06,560 --> 01:15:10,880
Speaker 3: Oh good point, But he's sent a warning to you.

1707
01:15:12,160 --> 01:15:15,559
Speaker 1: I mean, can make a trade offer to move up

1708
01:15:15,560 --> 01:15:16,080
Speaker 1: in front of you.

1709
01:15:17,520 --> 01:15:18,360
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'd let you do that.

1710
01:15:18,439 --> 01:15:19,479
Speaker 1: No, I'm just kidding a right.

1711
01:15:19,560 --> 01:15:22,920
Speaker 4: Anyways, Well, I I like love the idea of let's

1712
01:15:22,960 --> 01:15:26,400
Speaker 4: see c J. Stroud bounce back against a good Bucks

1713
01:15:26,400 --> 01:15:29,840
Speaker 4: defense that probably will just completely shut down the run.

1714
01:15:29,920 --> 01:15:31,599
Speaker 3: They've been doing that all year.

1715
01:15:32,040 --> 01:15:35,479
Speaker 4: Uh, Todd Bowles has them blitzing at the third highest rates.

1716
01:15:35,520 --> 01:15:38,360
Speaker 4: So you know last week that caused some problems for Stroud.

1717
01:15:38,400 --> 01:15:42,200
Speaker 4: I thought that, like if beyond the Bryce Young development,

1718
01:15:42,200 --> 01:15:44,360
Speaker 4: where he played, you know, I thought better than he

1719
01:15:44,400 --> 01:15:47,400
Speaker 4: had any time this season. It's like week after week

1720
01:15:47,439 --> 01:15:51,719
Speaker 4: with Will Anderson, they've got guys like Jonathan Grenard blowing

1721
01:15:51,800 --> 01:15:55,240
Speaker 4: up plays. Last week, Blake Cashman did a lot. It's

1722
01:15:55,240 --> 01:15:57,479
Speaker 4: like this is a strange, a bit of a strange defense,

1723
01:15:57,479 --> 01:16:01,559
Speaker 4: but I think Demiko Ryans and if you've Bobby Slowick

1724
01:16:01,600 --> 01:16:03,559
Speaker 4: as well, like this coaching staff has made a lot

1725
01:16:03,600 --> 01:16:06,160
Speaker 4: of a lot of difference here and I give them

1726
01:16:06,160 --> 01:16:08,360
Speaker 4: a chance every week, and I still eye them as

1727
01:16:08,360 --> 01:16:10,439
Speaker 4: a potential team of ATEN because of that, well I don't.

1728
01:16:10,479 --> 01:16:12,840
Speaker 5: I don't think team of eighten is happening, although unless

1729
01:16:12,840 --> 01:16:17,920
Speaker 5: something pops up, I guess just like in November, all right,

1730
01:16:17,960 --> 01:16:18,280
Speaker 5: well we.

1731
01:16:18,200 --> 01:16:18,920
Speaker 3: Won't be doing that.

1732
01:16:18,960 --> 01:16:21,360
Speaker 4: But in my mind, like they're the they're the team

1733
01:16:21,400 --> 01:16:23,960
Speaker 4: I kind of like watching as a second game each week,

1734
01:16:24,080 --> 01:16:25,600
Speaker 4: so to the Houston Tucks to.

1735
01:16:25,600 --> 01:16:28,280
Speaker 3: See both three and four.

1736
01:16:29,280 --> 01:16:31,439
Speaker 5: To me, this is a do you want to be

1737
01:16:31,479 --> 01:16:34,639
Speaker 5: part of the season bawl And I hope the Texans

1738
01:16:34,640 --> 01:16:36,640
Speaker 5: win because they would be a more interesting team I

1739
01:16:36,640 --> 01:16:38,280
Speaker 5: think to be part of the season. When we were

1740
01:16:38,600 --> 01:16:41,120
Speaker 5: in high school, I now feel bad about this, but

1741
01:16:41,520 --> 01:16:44,920
Speaker 5: thinking about there was a group of intuage of individuals

1742
01:16:44,920 --> 01:16:47,439
Speaker 5: that were called like the just their gymnasts.

1743
01:16:46,880 --> 01:16:48,839
Speaker 3: And uh it was in Dan's parlance.

1744
01:16:48,880 --> 01:16:50,599
Speaker 5: They weren't really putting anything on the table, but they

1745
01:16:50,640 --> 01:16:51,639
Speaker 5: weren't taking anything off.

1746
01:16:51,640 --> 01:16:53,080
Speaker 3: They were just their gymnasts.

1747
01:16:53,080 --> 01:16:57,479
Speaker 5: The Bucks are the most just there is this there

1748
01:16:57,479 --> 01:16:59,080
Speaker 5: were socially amnastics.

1749
01:16:59,320 --> 01:17:01,479
Speaker 3: I guess they were just sort of they were there.

1750
01:17:02,240 --> 01:17:03,320
Speaker 3: I don't know if they were known.

1751
01:17:03,439 --> 01:17:06,839
Speaker 5: I don't think it was something that was voiced, you know, widely,

1752
01:17:06,960 --> 01:17:08,360
Speaker 5: But I don't know if they were just sort of

1753
01:17:08,560 --> 01:17:10,439
Speaker 5: like they were just kind of like there.

1754
01:17:10,479 --> 01:17:13,200
Speaker 3: You're like, oh, yeah, the gymnasts, they kind of they're

1755
01:17:13,280 --> 01:17:13,599
Speaker 3: the crew.

1756
01:17:13,720 --> 01:17:16,240
Speaker 2: I don't know if I've ever actually shared this on

1757
01:17:16,400 --> 01:17:18,200
Speaker 2: the show before, and I think it would be helpful

1758
01:17:18,240 --> 01:17:21,560
Speaker 2: to the audience because I think it offers clarity in

1759
01:17:21,640 --> 01:17:25,280
Speaker 2: terms of you looked above a coal mine a social circle.

1760
01:17:25,360 --> 01:17:28,320
Speaker 1: No, this has nothing to do with that. Okay, there

1761
01:17:28,360 --> 01:17:29,719
Speaker 1: are three types of people.

1762
01:17:29,479 --> 01:17:31,920
Speaker 2: In the world, and I want to give credit speaking

1763
01:17:31,920 --> 01:17:35,200
Speaker 2: of coal mine, Brian Patterson, wherever you are. But this

1764
01:17:35,400 --> 01:17:38,160
Speaker 2: was Brian Patterson's theory back in pro Rover. There are

1765
01:17:38,200 --> 01:17:41,080
Speaker 2: people that they sit at the table. You're at the table.

1766
01:17:41,120 --> 01:17:42,799
Speaker 2: You sit at the table, and they're bringing things.

1767
01:17:42,680 --> 01:17:43,200
Speaker 1: To the table.

1768
01:17:43,520 --> 01:17:46,599
Speaker 2: Oh, here comes a turkey who likes burritos, who needs

1769
01:17:46,600 --> 01:17:48,880
Speaker 2: a drink, I'll get you something. Then there are people

1770
01:17:49,040 --> 01:17:52,920
Speaker 2: like the gymnasts of West Massachusetts that are just sitting

1771
01:17:52,920 --> 01:17:55,360
Speaker 2: at the table and they're not taking anything off the table. No,

1772
01:17:56,439 --> 01:17:59,080
Speaker 2: but they're not really adding anything, but they're there, and

1773
01:17:59,160 --> 01:18:00,960
Speaker 2: you don't really have an issue unless there are people

1774
01:18:01,000 --> 01:18:03,559
Speaker 2: that bring things to the table that could be sitting there.

1775
01:18:04,040 --> 01:18:06,840
Speaker 2: But then people just that are bringing crowd. But then

1776
01:18:06,880 --> 01:18:08,040
Speaker 2: there's the people that you got to get out of

1777
01:18:08,080 --> 01:18:10,040
Speaker 2: your life, the people that take things from the table.

1778
01:18:10,200 --> 01:18:10,800
Speaker 3: Energy people.

1779
01:18:10,920 --> 01:18:14,080
Speaker 1: Where where's the salt shaker that's missing? Where's the ketchup?

1780
01:18:14,200 --> 01:18:15,080
Speaker 1: Are missing the cutlery?

1781
01:18:15,280 --> 01:18:18,280
Speaker 2: Like, some people are just taking things off the table,

1782
01:18:18,960 --> 01:18:20,599
Speaker 2: And those are the people you got to take out

1783
01:18:20,640 --> 01:18:23,160
Speaker 2: of your life. So if you're lucky, you have a

1784
01:18:23,200 --> 01:18:24,600
Speaker 2: lot of people that bring things to the table and

1785
01:18:24,720 --> 01:18:26,920
Speaker 2: you got a feast. But if you got you got

1786
01:18:26,960 --> 01:18:30,200
Speaker 2: things missing on the table all of a sudden reevaluate

1787
01:18:30,200 --> 01:18:31,120
Speaker 2: who's sitting at your table.

1788
01:18:31,400 --> 01:18:32,479
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's a percentage game.

1789
01:18:32,479 --> 01:18:35,519
Speaker 4: If you remove all the takers, then all you're dealing

1790
01:18:35,560 --> 01:18:38,000
Speaker 4: with are the givers, and that that middle of the

1791
01:18:38,080 --> 01:18:38,599
Speaker 4: road groups.

1792
01:18:38,600 --> 01:18:41,920
Speaker 5: I don't I still don't understand the are the bucks,

1793
01:18:41,920 --> 01:18:43,840
Speaker 5: are the jumps best their gymnasts? But I like this,

1794
01:18:44,000 --> 01:18:46,920
Speaker 5: I I I think I heard I heard this were

1795
01:18:46,960 --> 01:18:48,360
Speaker 5: bullied by Greg.

1796
01:18:49,720 --> 01:18:52,120
Speaker 4: Steam or just like yeah you were you were you

1797
01:18:52,240 --> 01:18:55,040
Speaker 4: were putting the entire gymnastics team into this bland.

1798
01:18:56,439 --> 01:19:00,760
Speaker 2: Yes, come for Greg gymnasts, just like a little only

1799
01:19:00,800 --> 01:19:01,479
Speaker 2: more confusing.

1800
01:19:01,560 --> 01:19:04,360
Speaker 3: But it led to to, uh, yeah, I enjoyed that.

1801
01:19:04,560 --> 01:19:05,439
Speaker 3: I enjoyed. I'm with you.

1802
01:19:05,680 --> 01:19:09,160
Speaker 5: I think I heard Spencer Hall, Who's great on Wamani

1803
01:19:09,240 --> 01:19:11,880
Speaker 5: Jones podcast this week, say, if someone walks into the

1804
01:19:11,960 --> 01:19:16,040
Speaker 5: room and in size heavily, that's the person you gotta

1805
01:19:16,080 --> 01:19:19,160
Speaker 5: work work, worry about, you know, And that's who's you know.

1806
01:19:19,320 --> 01:19:20,080
Speaker 3: They sigh heavyly.

1807
01:19:20,240 --> 01:19:23,320
Speaker 5: They immediately are trying to take control of the emotions

1808
01:19:23,360 --> 01:19:25,280
Speaker 5: of the entire you know room.

1809
01:19:25,600 --> 01:19:27,840
Speaker 4: I mean, I can I think of a couple of

1810
01:19:27,960 --> 01:19:30,080
Speaker 4: shadowy League figures from our past that will like walk

1811
01:19:30,120 --> 01:19:31,960
Speaker 4: in a room forty minutes, lay to a meeting and

1812
01:19:32,040 --> 01:19:32,880
Speaker 4: flip the lights on.

1813
01:19:33,280 --> 01:19:34,599
Speaker 3: Oh now you're here. Here it comes.

1814
01:19:35,040 --> 01:19:37,760
Speaker 5: I'm immediately going to try to get rid of my

1815
01:19:37,920 --> 01:19:39,200
Speaker 5: bad energy onto you.

1816
01:19:39,680 --> 01:19:42,839
Speaker 3: I actually like that person that you're referring to, but action.

1817
01:19:43,000 --> 01:19:45,320
Speaker 2: I like him, But that was more like that's a

1818
01:19:45,400 --> 01:19:47,519
Speaker 2: corporate leverpool. And I could think of a lot Tommy

1819
01:19:47,560 --> 01:19:56,439
Speaker 2: Lee Jones where you need him. Nowhere's move on, all right, Mark,

1820
01:19:56,479 --> 01:19:59,679
Speaker 2: it's back to you. All right, I'll take I'll take

1821
01:20:00,040 --> 01:20:02,840
Speaker 2: the Cardinals at Cleveland. Cardinals are getting eight points in

1822
01:20:02,920 --> 01:20:05,439
Speaker 2: this not surprisingly. I mean it's like, here's the thing.

1823
01:20:05,720 --> 01:20:08,280
Speaker 2: There is a world where it's Clayton Tune versus PJ.

1824
01:20:08,479 --> 01:20:08,799
Speaker 1: Walker.

1825
01:20:09,760 --> 01:20:10,599
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's still.

1826
01:20:12,120 --> 01:20:15,000
Speaker 4: Where there is a potential world where it could possibly

1827
01:20:15,120 --> 01:20:18,320
Speaker 4: and it seems unlikely, but it could possibly be Kyler

1828
01:20:18,439 --> 01:20:19,599
Speaker 4: Murray versus Deshaun Watson.

1829
01:20:19,760 --> 01:20:24,000
Speaker 5: It's most according to reports, it's most likely Clayton Tune

1830
01:20:24,120 --> 01:20:28,160
Speaker 5: versus Deshaun Watson because Watson as practice, he says he

1831
01:20:28,200 --> 01:20:31,120
Speaker 5: feels good. He doesn't want to commit, but it sounds

1832
01:20:31,360 --> 01:20:34,599
Speaker 5: like there's progress and and it sounds positive.

1833
01:20:34,680 --> 01:20:37,120
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think you know, for me, like Clayton Tune

1834
01:20:37,280 --> 01:20:40,320
Speaker 4: put into a tough spot here. They're missing parts on

1835
01:20:40,360 --> 01:20:42,639
Speaker 4: their offense to begin with. They weren't a great offense

1836
01:20:43,360 --> 01:20:47,240
Speaker 4: to start, and you're gonna go against in Cleveland. There's

1837
01:20:47,240 --> 01:20:50,280
Speaker 4: gonna be some weather here against the Miles Garrett led

1838
01:20:50,360 --> 01:20:53,800
Speaker 4: defense that nearly beat the Saints a week ago with

1839
01:20:53,960 --> 01:20:57,679
Speaker 4: some incredible plays. Uh, And like, how are simply trying

1840
01:20:57,760 --> 01:21:01,679
Speaker 4: to survive the PJ Walker experience? He has nine turnover

1841
01:21:01,760 --> 01:21:05,320
Speaker 4: worthy plays every game. And it's like, I think it's

1842
01:21:05,360 --> 01:21:07,280
Speaker 4: like we watch PJ Walker, like, you can tell this

1843
01:21:07,360 --> 01:21:08,800
Speaker 4: guy cares, he's plugged in.

1844
01:21:09,479 --> 01:21:11,599
Speaker 5: But all that's that's not good enough. That's all fine though,

1845
01:21:11,800 --> 01:21:15,000
Speaker 5: but that's the offense has been okay, like this game,

1846
01:21:15,080 --> 01:21:16,800
Speaker 5: the running game has.

1847
01:21:16,760 --> 01:21:19,720
Speaker 3: Been good, I know, but I'm just not. I'm not.

1848
01:21:19,840 --> 01:21:21,320
Speaker 4: I think a week ago I would have been saying

1849
01:21:21,360 --> 01:21:23,160
Speaker 4: that and he and that's all true, and djok who's

1850
01:21:23,160 --> 01:21:26,040
Speaker 4: been been good as well, but like you can't look

1851
01:21:26,160 --> 01:21:28,840
Speaker 4: past what PJ Walker has cost them. I think they

1852
01:21:28,920 --> 01:21:32,040
Speaker 4: have two more wins with some of the gaffs taken away.

1853
01:21:32,120 --> 01:21:35,519
Speaker 5: And that's not like why not to take which games

1854
01:21:36,360 --> 01:21:38,679
Speaker 5: Seattle about? They won his other games?

1855
01:21:39,680 --> 01:21:41,519
Speaker 3: Yeah, but I'm saying PJ Walker's cat, like.

1856
01:21:42,000 --> 01:21:44,000
Speaker 1: Are we in the greg PJ Walker?

1857
01:21:44,040 --> 01:21:44,080
Speaker 3: No?

1858
01:21:44,160 --> 01:21:44,200
Speaker 2: No.

1859
01:21:45,560 --> 01:21:47,280
Speaker 5: My point is they had three hundred and eighty five

1860
01:21:47,360 --> 01:21:49,200
Speaker 5: yards last week. They gave up three sixty two. I

1861
01:21:49,240 --> 01:21:51,040
Speaker 5: didn't look at that and say, like the defense is

1862
01:21:51,080 --> 01:21:53,439
Speaker 5: totally carrying. Of course the defense is better, but the

1863
01:21:53,520 --> 01:21:56,439
Speaker 5: offense did more positive things in Seattle than I would

1864
01:21:56,439 --> 01:21:56,960
Speaker 5: have expected.

1865
01:21:57,000 --> 01:21:59,800
Speaker 4: I think they're they're not defunct offense, but it's like

1866
01:22:00,200 --> 01:22:02,599
Speaker 4: PJ Walker, they're living on the edge with pgs.

1867
01:22:02,640 --> 01:22:04,719
Speaker 5: But he hasn't cost them wins, is my point, because

1868
01:22:04,720 --> 01:22:07,439
Speaker 5: he's played it last Winds, yes, last week.

1869
01:22:07,680 --> 01:22:09,680
Speaker 2: And this is a team that's gonna need all the

1870
01:22:09,720 --> 01:22:11,600
Speaker 2: wins they can get when they're trying to squeeze in

1871
01:22:12,080 --> 01:22:15,000
Speaker 2: to the playoff picture. And the longer he plays, the

1872
01:22:15,120 --> 01:22:17,080
Speaker 2: more games he's gonna eventually cost them.

1873
01:22:17,240 --> 01:22:19,640
Speaker 3: Now six weeks from Watson's injury, and so that was.

1874
01:22:19,760 --> 01:22:20,679
Speaker 1: Right, and that's.

1875
01:22:23,040 --> 01:22:25,920
Speaker 2: The impossible situation with the Browns right now, because you know,

1876
01:22:26,040 --> 01:22:29,360
Speaker 2: Walker is a guy that's not gonna win games, and

1877
01:22:29,840 --> 01:22:32,760
Speaker 2: and you know what, oh no, no, agree, But now

1878
01:22:32,800 --> 01:22:35,320
Speaker 2: you're waiting on Watson to come back. And Watson wasn't

1879
01:22:35,360 --> 01:22:37,400
Speaker 2: that good before he got hurt, and now we don't

1880
01:22:37,439 --> 01:22:38,960
Speaker 2: know what his health is, so they're kind of caught

1881
01:22:39,240 --> 01:22:41,519
Speaker 2: in purgatory. And oh, by the way, Bradley Chubb is

1882
01:22:41,720 --> 01:22:45,040
Speaker 2: rehabbing a horrific knee injury. So they the fact that

1883
01:22:45,120 --> 01:22:47,599
Speaker 2: their defense is being asked to do so much week

1884
01:22:47,640 --> 01:22:50,000
Speaker 2: to week when they when they let down as it

1885
01:22:50,080 --> 01:22:53,920
Speaker 2: did for parts of the Seattle game, that makes it

1886
01:22:54,080 --> 01:22:56,759
Speaker 2: very difficult and that we'll see.

1887
01:22:56,640 --> 01:22:57,880
Speaker 1: What they can do going forward.

1888
01:22:57,960 --> 01:23:01,120
Speaker 4: But against Clayton too, it kind of caught the PFF's

1889
01:23:01,160 --> 01:23:04,439
Speaker 4: thirty second ranked passing attack and a year ago with

1890
01:23:04,520 --> 01:23:07,800
Speaker 4: Jacoby Brissett, who is a higher quality backup obviously, like

1891
01:23:08,720 --> 01:23:10,120
Speaker 4: you saw Stefanski coach him up.

1892
01:23:10,120 --> 01:23:11,240
Speaker 3: I think Stefanski's out of.

1893
01:23:11,240 --> 01:23:13,120
Speaker 4: Turns with this passing game, like there's just not much

1894
01:23:13,160 --> 01:23:15,080
Speaker 4: he can well Watson a little plays here and there.

1895
01:23:15,200 --> 01:23:16,679
Speaker 3: Watson took half those snaps.

1896
01:23:16,720 --> 01:23:18,840
Speaker 5: So I think they have a lot of potential because

1897
01:23:18,840 --> 01:23:21,800
Speaker 5: they're four and three, they've got Clayton tune. Most likely

1898
01:23:21,880 --> 01:23:24,000
Speaker 5: this week, they should be able to get to five

1899
01:23:24,080 --> 01:23:26,719
Speaker 5: and three. I would expect good spot. I think Watson

1900
01:23:26,800 --> 01:23:29,040
Speaker 5: maybe saw, oh we got Arizona. No, let schedule, let's

1901
01:23:29,040 --> 01:23:31,439
Speaker 5: get back on the on the field here. But that

1902
01:23:31,479 --> 01:23:34,200
Speaker 5: shouldn't dictate anything. No, I know, I'm joking there. I

1903
01:23:34,600 --> 01:23:35,920
Speaker 5: just think they are in a good spot to get

1904
01:23:35,960 --> 01:23:40,799
Speaker 5: to five and three despite having one good Deshaun Watson

1905
01:23:40,880 --> 01:23:43,160
Speaker 5: game and no Nick Chubb. Yeah, to me, that's actually

1906
01:23:43,280 --> 01:23:45,680
Speaker 5: room for Okay, we we could do something here.

1907
01:23:45,880 --> 01:23:48,960
Speaker 1: That's what makes it so frustrating what happened inint the Seahawks.

1908
01:23:49,000 --> 01:23:51,200
Speaker 4: Well they had that game, it stands out. But that's

1909
01:23:51,240 --> 01:23:53,559
Speaker 4: fine if those things happen. But I think you're right, Greg,

1910
01:23:53,640 --> 01:23:56,240
Speaker 4: Like they're all around the roster. There are positives. It's

1911
01:23:56,320 --> 01:23:58,760
Speaker 4: just like you're trying to survive. Even the run game's

1912
01:23:58,760 --> 01:24:00,920
Speaker 4: gotten a little better last few weeks, So what is there?

1913
01:24:01,920 --> 01:24:05,920
Speaker 2: They traded people Jones at the people Jones at the deadline,

1914
01:24:06,600 --> 01:24:08,760
Speaker 2: and you know, I like that David and Joku mark

1915
01:24:09,160 --> 01:24:12,280
Speaker 2: nice game many times. Nice game, and he played really

1916
01:24:12,320 --> 01:24:15,760
Speaker 2: well on Sunday. Elijah Moore hasn't popped for them. Like,

1917
01:24:15,800 --> 01:24:18,960
Speaker 2: who is there, Amaris? What's going on with their wide

1918
01:24:18,960 --> 01:24:22,160
Speaker 2: receiver group right now? Because even when Deshaun Watson comes back,

1919
01:24:23,080 --> 01:24:24,240
Speaker 2: what's going on with this passing game?

1920
01:24:24,280 --> 01:24:27,200
Speaker 4: I think Amari Cooper's has made plays in every single game.

1921
01:24:27,920 --> 01:24:29,720
Speaker 3: And like, I mean, like, who's their number two guy

1922
01:24:29,800 --> 01:24:31,040
Speaker 3: right now? Who's that guy?

1923
01:24:31,080 --> 01:24:33,120
Speaker 4: I think it's Na Joku. I mean from a tight

1924
01:24:33,200 --> 01:24:37,040
Speaker 4: end position, Elijah Moore. They've probably wanted someone like David

1925
01:24:37,080 --> 01:24:39,680
Speaker 4: Bell for two years in a row to step up

1926
01:24:39,720 --> 01:24:40,040
Speaker 4: and do more.

1927
01:24:40,080 --> 01:24:40,360
Speaker 1: They don't.

1928
01:24:40,400 --> 01:24:42,400
Speaker 4: I thought the trade was just a little mysterious, but

1929
01:24:42,520 --> 01:24:44,479
Speaker 4: that's what I mean. I mean, but Dom and Jones

1930
01:24:44,520 --> 01:24:47,000
Speaker 4: had eight catches, so they don't really they don't really

1931
01:24:47,080 --> 01:24:48,960
Speaker 4: have a clear cut third guy.

1932
01:24:50,280 --> 01:24:53,519
Speaker 2: Okay, let's uh take a break and then we will

1933
01:24:53,560 --> 01:24:57,920
Speaker 2: finish a draft. All right, we're back homestretch, GREGI your

1934
01:24:58,000 --> 01:25:01,479
Speaker 2: last pick. Oh need a late game, So I guess

1935
01:25:01,520 --> 01:25:05,559
Speaker 2: I'm taking Colts Panthers. Funny how the draft works, Uh,

1936
01:25:05,840 --> 01:25:06,200
Speaker 2: not bad?

1937
01:25:06,360 --> 01:25:09,880
Speaker 5: The Frank revenge game, now, sure, I don't know.

1938
01:25:10,080 --> 01:25:12,320
Speaker 4: I think that could absolutely qualify this.

1939
01:25:12,439 --> 01:25:15,200
Speaker 3: How about the Bryce Young breakout game?

1940
01:25:15,880 --> 01:25:18,760
Speaker 5: Okay, I would like that the Colts defense does tend

1941
01:25:18,840 --> 01:25:24,600
Speaker 5: to help opposing quarterbacks. Like I've been saying it on

1942
01:25:24,720 --> 01:25:26,200
Speaker 5: the pod for a while that I just think he's

1943
01:25:26,240 --> 01:25:29,240
Speaker 5: getting steadily better. Took too many sacks last week against

1944
01:25:29,240 --> 01:25:31,880
Speaker 5: the Texans price Young, that is, but made a number

1945
01:25:31,920 --> 01:25:34,320
Speaker 5: of good throws too. He just looks like I know,

1946
01:25:34,439 --> 01:25:37,400
Speaker 5: he's so small that he doesn't look like a lot

1947
01:25:37,439 --> 01:25:40,200
Speaker 5: of NFL quarterbacks. But we've seen a lot of quarterbacks

1948
01:25:40,240 --> 01:25:42,120
Speaker 5: come into the league and they just don't belong.

1949
01:25:42,280 --> 01:25:43,240
Speaker 3: And to me, he belongs.

1950
01:25:43,360 --> 01:25:46,479
Speaker 5: And I think it's it's clear, like compared to a

1951
01:25:46,600 --> 01:25:49,120
Speaker 5: Zach Wilson or even a Mac Jones, Like I just

1952
01:25:49,200 --> 01:25:51,240
Speaker 5: see it, and I think he's gonna be Okay, Now,

1953
01:25:51,320 --> 01:25:53,040
Speaker 5: is he gonna be a huge difference maker? We'll have

1954
01:25:53,160 --> 01:25:55,519
Speaker 5: to find out over the next few years. They did

1955
01:25:55,600 --> 01:25:58,519
Speaker 5: make some big changes in Carolina. I thought coming out

1956
01:25:58,560 --> 01:26:01,599
Speaker 5: of the bye, they bet they straight out bench Miles Sanders,

1957
01:26:01,840 --> 01:26:05,479
Speaker 5: so it's a Chewba Hubbard and black Sheer running backfield

1958
01:26:05,560 --> 01:26:07,280
Speaker 5: with the Sanders in the third spot, and then they

1959
01:26:07,360 --> 01:26:10,160
Speaker 5: bench Hayden Hurst and Tommy Trumple played some.

1960
01:26:10,320 --> 01:26:11,559
Speaker 3: At least they're trying some different things.

1961
01:26:11,560 --> 01:26:13,920
Speaker 5: They're playing some younger players, and I think they went

1962
01:26:14,080 --> 01:26:16,600
Speaker 5: with kind of Thomas Brown the new play color his

1963
01:26:16,840 --> 01:26:18,840
Speaker 5: guys and they have a little bit of vibes after

1964
01:26:18,960 --> 01:26:19,439
Speaker 5: the first week.

1965
01:26:20,200 --> 01:26:24,439
Speaker 4: Young made some passes last week that turned me into

1966
01:26:24,600 --> 01:26:27,759
Speaker 4: a believer a little bit, or I was before.

1967
01:26:27,760 --> 01:26:28,479
Speaker 3: I just wasn't sure.

1968
01:26:28,520 --> 01:26:30,519
Speaker 4: But I will say this, like he got hit a lot,

1969
01:26:30,640 --> 01:26:33,160
Speaker 4: but he took a beating he did, but you know what,

1970
01:26:33,400 --> 01:26:35,320
Speaker 4: he showed some real I thought he was just showed

1971
01:26:35,400 --> 01:26:37,439
Speaker 4: some toughness, like he just kept getting back up. And

1972
01:26:37,520 --> 01:26:40,120
Speaker 4: maybe if you're like everyone's always talking about how small

1973
01:26:40,160 --> 01:26:40,679
Speaker 4: he is, he's.

1974
01:26:40,560 --> 01:26:43,240
Speaker 5: Kind of just like he took a ton of hits

1975
01:26:43,280 --> 01:26:46,599
Speaker 5: in college in the SEC like people kind of showed

1976
01:26:46,640 --> 01:26:48,400
Speaker 5: themselves when and I'm not not a big college guy,

1977
01:26:48,439 --> 01:26:50,599
Speaker 5: but when I eventually went back to do the studies, like, well,

1978
01:26:50,680 --> 01:26:52,960
Speaker 5: you know, he was in front of the Alabama offensive line. No,

1979
01:26:53,040 --> 01:26:55,960
Speaker 5: they stunk last year, Like he got brutalized up front,

1980
01:26:56,000 --> 01:26:56,920
Speaker 5: and so he's got to hit a lot.

1981
01:26:56,960 --> 01:26:57,320
Speaker 3: We'll see.

1982
01:26:57,840 --> 01:26:59,519
Speaker 5: The Colts running game, though, was still the best thing

1983
01:26:59,600 --> 01:27:01,160
Speaker 5: in this game. Even one of the reasons I kind

1984
01:27:01,160 --> 01:27:02,920
Speaker 5: of like as the late game is give me some

1985
01:27:03,040 --> 01:27:05,240
Speaker 5: Jonathan Taylor versus one of the worst run defenses in

1986
01:27:05,280 --> 01:27:05,639
Speaker 5: the league.

1987
01:27:05,720 --> 01:27:08,799
Speaker 2: He got one carry, I think with like thirteen minutes

1988
01:27:09,000 --> 01:27:10,640
Speaker 2: to play, he got his final carry and then they

1989
01:27:10,800 --> 01:27:13,840
Speaker 2: just didn't use him in their loss to the Saints

1990
01:27:13,960 --> 01:27:16,040
Speaker 2: for the rest of the game as a ball carrier.

1991
01:27:16,120 --> 01:27:19,080
Speaker 2: So I think Zach Moss has been, you know, a surprise,

1992
01:27:19,240 --> 01:27:21,280
Speaker 2: pleasant surprise for them. But I think it's time to

1993
01:27:21,360 --> 01:27:23,840
Speaker 2: stop being so cute about how much they're using Zach

1994
01:27:23,920 --> 01:27:24,880
Speaker 2: Moss than down the stretch.

1995
01:27:25,120 --> 01:27:26,920
Speaker 3: Colts. Uh, well, they didn't have the ball a ton,

1996
01:27:27,000 --> 01:27:28,519
Speaker 3: but the year Zach Moss quite a bit.

1997
01:27:28,560 --> 01:27:30,719
Speaker 5: It was partly like it kept coming up in short yardage,

1998
01:27:30,720 --> 01:27:32,200
Speaker 5: and he is pretty great in short yards.

1999
01:27:32,200 --> 01:27:35,880
Speaker 3: The Colts are favored by you, by the way, Jonathan Taylor, right.

2000
01:27:35,920 --> 01:27:39,720
Speaker 5: He They've been answering these questions all weeks, so they're

2001
01:27:39,720 --> 01:27:40,360
Speaker 5: going to give him.

2002
01:27:40,240 --> 01:27:42,840
Speaker 2: The boy meant about it, just just you know, do

2003
01:27:42,960 --> 01:27:46,439
Speaker 2: what makes sense, common sense. By the way, the last

2004
01:27:46,479 --> 01:27:51,880
Speaker 2: three games and before Anthony Richardson got hurt, I really

2005
01:27:52,000 --> 01:27:56,519
Speaker 2: loved the Colts as a team of atl Nominee Gardner

2006
01:27:56,560 --> 01:27:59,439
Speaker 2: Minshew's fun. But the defense has got to be better.

2007
01:27:59,640 --> 01:28:02,800
Speaker 2: I mean, if if the Bryce Young breakout game. These

2008
01:28:02,880 --> 01:28:05,880
Speaker 2: last three weeks at Jacksonville, they gave up thirty seven

2009
01:28:06,960 --> 01:28:11,720
Speaker 2: against the Browns, thirty eight against the Saints thirty.

2010
01:28:11,520 --> 01:28:16,040
Speaker 3: Eight, So it's there for Bryce to have. Farious Minshew's

2011
01:28:16,040 --> 01:28:16,920
Speaker 3: been a huge part of that.

2012
01:28:17,000 --> 01:28:20,040
Speaker 5: Yeah, like a turnover worthy that's giving them a ton

2013
01:28:20,120 --> 01:28:21,160
Speaker 5: of extra possess.

2014
01:28:21,240 --> 01:28:24,960
Speaker 2: That's fair, that's fair. But you know, I just feel

2015
01:28:25,000 --> 01:28:28,760
Speaker 2: like at home, this would be a nice Bryce Young story. Yeah,

2016
01:28:28,800 --> 01:28:30,800
Speaker 2: win a couple games three, you know, count for three

2017
01:28:30,880 --> 01:28:33,000
Speaker 2: touchdowns and get people excited down there.

2018
01:28:33,120 --> 01:28:34,920
Speaker 5: Well, in the fact they don't have their own pick

2019
01:28:34,960 --> 01:28:37,679
Speaker 5: at Chicago's pick, I really feel like it's just gonna

2020
01:28:37,720 --> 01:28:40,559
Speaker 5: make it feel weightier that this that they traded all

2021
01:28:40,600 --> 01:28:41,400
Speaker 5: this for Bryce Young.

2022
01:28:41,439 --> 01:28:44,160
Speaker 2: By the way, at Chicago next week, pinch me, all right,

2023
01:28:44,880 --> 01:28:45,559
Speaker 2: I close it out.

2024
01:28:45,560 --> 01:28:49,240
Speaker 1: I have like four hundred games in the early window.

2025
01:28:49,760 --> 01:28:50,400
Speaker 1: Let's go with.

2026
01:28:52,200 --> 01:28:55,080
Speaker 2: Just out of spite, I'm gonna put the Patriots last

2027
01:28:55,120 --> 01:28:57,520
Speaker 2: Grec Bears at Saints.

2028
01:29:00,800 --> 01:29:01,519
Speaker 1: Bears a Saints.

2029
01:29:01,800 --> 01:29:04,920
Speaker 2: That's an exciting selection to Saints by eight and a half,

2030
01:29:05,120 --> 01:29:08,760
Speaker 2: Saints eight and a half points. And you know what,

2031
01:29:09,200 --> 01:29:12,840
Speaker 2: I think that's fair because I like the way this

2032
01:29:12,960 --> 01:29:16,160
Speaker 2: offense looked. I mean it was we talked about it,

2033
01:29:16,320 --> 01:29:18,800
Speaker 2: the best version of their offense all season by far.

2034
01:29:19,479 --> 01:29:24,799
Speaker 2: And I like the idea of keeping keeping Taysom Hill involved.

2035
01:29:25,080 --> 01:29:29,000
Speaker 2: Alvin Kamara has really kind of shown signs of life.

2036
01:29:29,800 --> 01:29:32,800
Speaker 2: He's been a touch monster for them. He's really the

2037
01:29:32,840 --> 01:29:34,880
Speaker 2: focal point of the offense. Greg One thing I want

2038
01:29:34,920 --> 01:29:40,280
Speaker 2: to get eyes on here, your boy offense or the

2039
01:29:40,360 --> 01:29:42,000
Speaker 2: offensive player of your prediction, Chris.

2040
01:29:42,000 --> 01:29:43,559
Speaker 3: Lave where has he been?

2041
01:29:44,880 --> 01:29:46,920
Speaker 5: Has been in that off same page of Derek Carr

2042
01:29:47,240 --> 01:29:51,120
Speaker 5: making big drops in his own head, getting arrested, being

2043
01:29:51,360 --> 01:29:55,439
Speaker 5: kind of the main character and in the spotlight in

2044
01:29:55,560 --> 01:29:57,880
Speaker 5: a way that he's probably never been in his whole career.

2045
01:29:58,240 --> 01:30:01,880
Speaker 5: It's not necessary really handling it well. I think the

2046
01:30:02,479 --> 01:30:05,960
Speaker 5: arrest was for driving reckless, driving over the speed.

2047
01:30:06,080 --> 01:30:08,760
Speaker 2: He is since week four and he started out great

2048
01:30:08,840 --> 01:30:11,360
Speaker 2: when we were talking about that. He was averaging over

2049
01:30:11,439 --> 01:30:13,599
Speaker 2: seven catches one hundred yards a game the first three weeks,

2050
01:30:13,640 --> 01:30:15,360
Speaker 2: the last three weeks four and a half catches game

2051
01:30:15,479 --> 01:30:16,240
Speaker 2: forty three yards.

2052
01:30:16,320 --> 01:30:18,519
Speaker 3: He's not getting the end zone, and neither is Michael Thomas.

2053
01:30:18,560 --> 01:30:21,800
Speaker 2: By the way, there's a disconnect in terms of red

2054
01:30:21,920 --> 01:30:24,280
Speaker 2: zone with those wide receivers, which is why it's so

2055
01:30:24,360 --> 01:30:27,040
Speaker 2: important Greg that Alvin Kamara, who found the end zone

2056
01:30:27,040 --> 01:30:29,439
Speaker 2: twice once as a rusher once is a receiver last week,

2057
01:30:30,160 --> 01:30:32,560
Speaker 2: gets that mojo back and Taysom Hills stays in the

2058
01:30:32,600 --> 01:30:34,200
Speaker 2: mix because he's another guy that has a nose for

2059
01:30:34,240 --> 01:30:34,720
Speaker 2: the end zone.

2060
01:30:34,760 --> 01:30:35,639
Speaker 1: That helps him so much.

2061
01:30:35,880 --> 01:30:38,920
Speaker 5: Yeah, when I made that list of who could realistically

2062
01:30:39,040 --> 01:30:41,080
Speaker 5: win the Super Bowl, I did not include any teams

2063
01:30:41,080 --> 01:30:42,080
Speaker 5: from the NFC South.

2064
01:30:42,360 --> 01:30:44,960
Speaker 3: I feel good about that. But this is a big game.

2065
01:30:45,000 --> 01:30:48,120
Speaker 5: I think for the Saints to build on the most

2066
01:30:48,200 --> 01:30:52,800
Speaker 5: positive offensive performance in years for them and just take

2067
01:30:52,840 --> 01:30:55,640
Speaker 5: care of business and beat the Bears and keep it

2068
01:30:55,760 --> 01:30:59,479
Speaker 5: going because they have dudes. Shaheed's a dude. Kamara I

2069
01:30:59,479 --> 01:31:01,960
Speaker 5: think is better. He's not the old Kamara, but he's

2070
01:31:01,960 --> 01:31:05,760
Speaker 5: still a plus starter. And even Michael Thomas uh is,

2071
01:31:06,360 --> 01:31:09,599
Speaker 5: you know, playing well despite what Kamara, did you guys

2072
01:31:09,640 --> 01:31:11,480
Speaker 5: hear about this called.

2073
01:31:13,280 --> 01:31:15,439
Speaker 3: I I can't you know this, this goes on fast.

2074
01:31:15,479 --> 01:31:17,439
Speaker 3: I can't say it, but you know the s word bug.

2075
01:31:17,600 --> 01:31:17,960
Speaker 3: He said.

2076
01:31:18,680 --> 01:31:22,680
Speaker 5: Everyone last week was taking ivs because the diarrhea was

2077
01:31:22,800 --> 01:31:26,920
Speaker 5: just running through the whole team. They said, it's such

2078
01:31:26,920 --> 01:31:29,080
Speaker 5: a bad Camara said it. I think it's going to

2079
01:31:29,160 --> 01:31:31,840
Speaker 5: bring them together as a team that they overcame this.

2080
01:31:31,960 --> 01:31:34,120
Speaker 1: And you can also just say stomach bug and people

2081
01:31:34,160 --> 01:31:35,120
Speaker 1: are like, okay, we got.

2082
01:31:35,040 --> 01:31:37,400
Speaker 3: I know, but that's what That's what Camara said.

2083
01:31:38,760 --> 01:31:41,519
Speaker 5: This was every Yeah, this was before and during at

2084
01:31:41,600 --> 01:31:43,920
Speaker 5: halftime they were taking IV's. They had no fluid. It

2085
01:31:44,040 --> 01:31:46,360
Speaker 5: was happening every week. Then, yes, it led to a

2086
01:31:46,400 --> 01:31:47,160
Speaker 5: great performance.

2087
01:31:47,320 --> 01:31:49,400
Speaker 2: It's sneaky, like one of the worst parts of being

2088
01:31:49,439 --> 01:31:51,800
Speaker 2: a human. And I'm glad they're passed it.

2089
01:31:53,160 --> 01:31:55,600
Speaker 5: Past Rash needs to be a little better, but it

2090
01:31:55,640 --> 01:31:57,200
Speaker 5: should be again.

2091
01:31:57,320 --> 01:31:59,000
Speaker 3: We are getting Beijing again.

2092
01:31:59,040 --> 01:32:03,000
Speaker 4: All right about Montes Sweat, is you gonna play much

2093
01:32:03,040 --> 01:32:04,840
Speaker 4: in this? I kind of like the idea of throwing

2094
01:32:04,880 --> 01:32:07,120
Speaker 4: him in there againstuff. Yeah, I mean like the Saints

2095
01:32:07,160 --> 01:32:08,559
Speaker 4: offensive line, which is like, I mean.

2096
01:32:08,960 --> 01:32:11,200
Speaker 5: It's not like you're playing quarterback. You gotta figure out

2097
01:32:11,280 --> 01:32:13,360
Speaker 5: you know, certain Russia, you know certain you know what,

2098
01:32:13,479 --> 01:32:14,880
Speaker 5: I like loops and whatnot.

2099
01:32:14,960 --> 01:32:16,200
Speaker 3: But he can go out there. You know.

2100
01:32:16,360 --> 01:32:20,240
Speaker 2: I like if you got the Saints defense and fantasy

2101
01:32:20,479 --> 01:32:22,720
Speaker 2: fire him up because you might get a twenty five

2102
01:32:22,800 --> 01:32:23,720
Speaker 2: point effort from them.

2103
01:32:23,920 --> 01:32:30,679
Speaker 1: I think this is gonna be ugly. Saints roll all right. Finally,

2104
01:32:30,760 --> 01:32:32,040
Speaker 1: Commander's at Patriots.

2105
01:32:33,000 --> 01:32:37,840
Speaker 2: Patriots are favored by three points in this ballgame the Commanders.

2106
01:32:37,840 --> 01:32:39,240
Speaker 1: A couple of things going on with the Commanders.

2107
01:32:39,560 --> 01:32:42,519
Speaker 2: Obviously, they just traded away their too top edge rushers,

2108
01:32:43,320 --> 01:32:45,759
Speaker 2: so that's interesting. They are looking ahead to a future

2109
01:32:46,640 --> 01:32:48,840
Speaker 2: that might not include even their head coach, so they're

2110
01:32:49,240 --> 01:32:52,960
Speaker 2: in a tricky spot. Also, Sam Howell pretty much balled

2111
01:32:53,000 --> 01:32:56,519
Speaker 2: out against the Eagles and kept them in that game

2112
01:32:56,640 --> 01:32:59,760
Speaker 2: and made that just a really interesting fun game. So

2113
01:33:00,280 --> 01:33:03,320
Speaker 2: he has been you know, I feel like on balance,

2114
01:33:03,360 --> 01:33:05,200
Speaker 2: there's been some lows. I think there was a five

2115
01:33:05,280 --> 01:33:08,880
Speaker 2: interception game against the Bills. But I think he's been

2116
01:33:09,720 --> 01:33:13,320
Speaker 2: a little bit. He's been better than I expected, So

2117
01:33:13,479 --> 01:33:15,160
Speaker 2: I think I'm not saying he's the future.

2118
01:33:15,240 --> 01:33:17,160
Speaker 1: I think, just like what you're hearing out of Green.

2119
01:33:17,080 --> 01:33:20,200
Speaker 2: Bay, I think the next ten games are incredibly or

2120
01:33:20,280 --> 01:33:24,040
Speaker 2: nine games are incredibly important for Sam Howe to give

2121
01:33:24,120 --> 01:33:26,599
Speaker 2: himself a chance to be a part of the future

2122
01:33:26,640 --> 01:33:30,559
Speaker 2: here and the Patriots mark we mentioned it, Kendrick Bourne,

2123
01:33:30,560 --> 01:33:34,800
Speaker 2: who's really their only playmaker of note, at least in

2124
01:33:34,840 --> 01:33:36,879
Speaker 2: the passing game. He's out for the Earth and ACL

2125
01:33:37,560 --> 01:33:41,400
Speaker 2: So they're in virtual must win territory here because you

2126
01:33:41,479 --> 01:33:45,200
Speaker 2: get the Commanders. Let's talk about it, Greg, the Patriots

2127
01:33:45,400 --> 01:33:49,240
Speaker 2: as a team that fashions himself playing December football at matters.

2128
01:33:49,520 --> 01:33:51,200
Speaker 2: You got to beat the Commanders this week at home.

2129
01:33:51,240 --> 01:33:52,640
Speaker 2: You got to beat the Colts next week at home

2130
01:33:52,680 --> 01:33:54,800
Speaker 2: and going to your bye with a chance, and it's

2131
01:33:54,840 --> 01:33:55,200
Speaker 2: on tap.

2132
01:33:55,280 --> 01:33:58,519
Speaker 5: You've talked about their season as if it's still meaningful

2133
01:33:58,560 --> 01:34:00,200
Speaker 5: in a way that I don't think they're doing even

2134
01:34:00,240 --> 01:34:00,799
Speaker 5: in Foxboro.

2135
01:34:00,880 --> 01:34:03,280
Speaker 1: But I'm just saying those are winnable games there, we've

2136
01:34:03,360 --> 01:34:03,800
Speaker 1: ched them.

2137
01:34:03,960 --> 01:34:07,160
Speaker 2: Sure, Can they be I'm not saying winnable, but they're

2138
01:34:07,200 --> 01:34:08,839
Speaker 2: not Titanic situation?

2139
01:34:09,040 --> 01:34:09,120
Speaker 5: Now?

2140
01:34:09,360 --> 01:34:10,799
Speaker 3: Can they be bad teams?

2141
01:34:10,920 --> 01:34:13,719
Speaker 5: Can Belichick still do the thing where he takes advantage

2142
01:34:13,760 --> 01:34:15,600
Speaker 5: of an inexperienced quarterback.

2143
01:34:16,560 --> 01:34:17,760
Speaker 3: I guess you find those out.

2144
01:34:17,840 --> 01:34:20,439
Speaker 5: But I have a hard time with the Patriots favored

2145
01:34:21,120 --> 01:34:24,000
Speaker 5: over anyone I'm actually surprised because I look at these

2146
01:34:24,000 --> 01:34:25,960
Speaker 5: two teams and I think, well, the Commanders are a

2147
01:34:26,000 --> 01:34:30,519
Speaker 5: better team. They've been, their ups have been way higher.

2148
01:34:30,880 --> 01:34:33,280
Speaker 5: I mean, i'd take Sam Howell over Mac Jones right now.

2149
01:34:33,360 --> 01:34:36,960
Speaker 5: I don't even think that's higher upside A question in

2150
01:34:37,080 --> 01:34:39,559
Speaker 5: terms of his high level play. I've liked what I've

2151
01:34:39,600 --> 01:34:41,840
Speaker 5: seen out a Christian Barmore, but I don't know. Yeah,

2152
01:34:42,040 --> 01:34:45,200
Speaker 5: in terms of the Belichick, is he gonna get another

2153
01:34:45,320 --> 01:34:47,479
Speaker 5: season or not? These types of games do matter because

2154
01:34:47,479 --> 01:34:49,639
Speaker 5: I looked at their schedule. I think of the eight

2155
01:34:49,880 --> 01:34:55,880
Speaker 5: first games, you know, five have been against the Bills, Dolphins, Jets,

2156
01:34:55,920 --> 01:34:58,320
Speaker 5: and Cowboys, which are you know, four of the better

2157
01:34:58,760 --> 01:35:00,719
Speaker 5: best teams in the NFL. And then down the stretch

2158
01:35:00,760 --> 01:35:02,400
Speaker 5: they only have like two of those games and now

2159
01:35:02,400 --> 01:35:05,360
Speaker 5: they're playing more teams that are closer to their level.

2160
01:35:05,439 --> 01:35:08,040
Speaker 3: But I don't assume anything. I think i'd take the Commanders.

2161
01:35:08,200 --> 01:35:09,800
Speaker 3: I think you lose Kendrick Bourne.

2162
01:35:10,520 --> 01:35:13,240
Speaker 4: They put up two hundred and eighteen total yards a

2163
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Speaker 4: week ago, a flurry of three and outs. Mac Jones

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Speaker 4: has totally talk about another quarterback. That's like, I don't

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Speaker 4: think mac Jones is their starter next year. I mean

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Speaker 4: a lot will change between now and then, but this

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Speaker 4: is one of the worst teams in the league. And

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Speaker 4: if it's so important for Bill Belichick to show something

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Speaker 4: tradeline deadline comes and goes and they don't do a

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Speaker 4: single thing, I get that probably like this wasn't like

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Speaker 4: a hey, we're in buyer's mode. But I just saw

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Speaker 4: a team that just like Josh McDaniels out in Vegas,

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Speaker 4: which is completely inactive.

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Speaker 2: That's kind of why I still don't think he's in danger.

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Speaker 2: I think and I think Mac Jones being just the guy,

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Speaker 2: a supreme just the guy so far for the most

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Speaker 2: part of his career after that first year is like

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Speaker 2: help Spelchick, because I think he's going to be the

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Speaker 2: guy that goes. And then I think Belichick gets one

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Speaker 2: more quarterback to try to do something right.

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Speaker 5: Well, we have nine games, if they win, if they

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Speaker 5: go four and thirteen, I think Gillfield did.

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Speaker 2: But I don't think. I guess I don't think that's

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Speaker 2: gonna happen. Yeah, I think that just and yeah, I

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Speaker 2: don't think he's Maybe maybe Belichick's not the same coach

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Speaker 2: he was, but I don't think he's like a liability.

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Speaker 3: I think he will game win games like this.

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Speaker 2: I think he'll win at least one of these games,

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Speaker 2: and maybe both, and they're gonna end up winning around

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Speaker 2: six or so.

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Speaker 5: Well, then they should put up some points, because to me,

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Speaker 5: this season is in terms of the commanders being disappointed

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Speaker 5: is about Ron Rivera's defense. I thought it was very

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Speaker 5: telling that he was basically made to trade these guys

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Speaker 5: off of his defense, because you invested all this in

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Speaker 5: the defensive line and you're still twenty ninth in defense,

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Speaker 5: So we don't like your plan anymore. It's not working.

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Speaker 5: The defense has not been good enough. Sam Howell actually,

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Speaker 5: on balance, has been good enough. Think about how well

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Speaker 5: he played in those two Eagles games. He played more

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Speaker 5: than well enough to win, and they could have won both.

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Speaker 5: If the defense was good, they'd be five and three

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Speaker 5: and they'd be quite a story.

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Speaker 3: Yea, if you'r Howell.

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Speaker 4: Like, what all I'm really asking from a young quarterback

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Speaker 4: is be watchable, make some plays, and like he does both.

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Speaker 4: I hated Ron Rivera having to answer obvious questions about

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Speaker 4: the trades, and he used the line too well. This

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Speaker 4: was an opportunity to see what else we have you

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Speaker 4: didn't want to do that, like you have no power

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Speaker 4: in your about nine weeks from being thrown out the

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Speaker 4: front door.

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Speaker 2: Them how has been sacked forty one times this year,

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Speaker 2: by only one last week. Though even with the only

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Speaker 2: one last week, the next closest guy it's been sacked

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Speaker 2: twenty eight times, so just Daniel Jones, who hasn't played

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Speaker 2: in a couple weeks.

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Speaker 5: So those guys got rid of the ball really quickly

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Speaker 5: last week. Maybe something clicked. I don't know if it

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Speaker 5: was the game plan or the opponent, but his time

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Speaker 5: to throw.

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Speaker 3: And it tells me he's durable.

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Speaker 4: Though if he can be sacked that many times and

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Speaker 4: not sure go out, there's a positive in there.

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Speaker 3: Maybe I don't know sure or yeah, taking time bomb

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Speaker 3: in the clapp right David's car was like, I can't

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Speaker 3: take much more of this. He doesn't seem like in

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Speaker 3: shock and all mode.

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Speaker 5: Though David Carr was not looking at as a positive

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Speaker 5: when he took those seventy six sacs. So Sam Howell, Yeah,

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Speaker 5: the David Carr Sam Howell watch is on because he's

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Speaker 5: still I believe on pace.

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Speaker 2: No good, well, not good, terrible in fact, rooting for

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Speaker 2: that kid, all right, those are all of the games.

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Speaker 2: And remember that on Sunday night we recap all the

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Speaker 2: games we just talked about, save one Monday Night that

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Speaker 2: gets its own thing until Sunday.

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Speaker 1: Heed the call.