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Speaker 1: This is One Bill's Live, presented by Calledlida Health.

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Speaker 2: Welcome into a Monday edition of One Bill's Live. The

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Speaker 2: NFL Draft week is officially here. On Thursday evening, we

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Speaker 2: will know the newest member of the Buffalo Bills if

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Speaker 2: if the Bills decide to stay in the first round

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Speaker 2: of the draft. We have no idea what's going to happen.

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Speaker 2: We have no idea how it's all gonna unfold. But

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Speaker 2: these next you get a few days are going to

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Speaker 2: be so exciting talking about the lead up to the

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Speaker 2: twenty twenty five NFL Draft. I'm Maddie Glab joined by

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Speaker 2: Steve Tasker for the next two hours as we talk

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Speaker 2: about what's going on in the NFL today and of

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Speaker 2: course the draft, that's all everybody's talking about.

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Speaker 3: Probably some of our loyal listeners will remember this, you

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Speaker 3: and I always do kind of this live draft show,

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Speaker 3: Right we come on, We talked about the draft pick.

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Speaker 3: We show highlights of the guy, and you and I

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Speaker 3: were sitting here last year as the Bills traded back

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Speaker 3: from was twenty six or twenty eight, back to thirty

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Speaker 3: or thirty one, and then back and then back again

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Speaker 3: out and we said it with nothing to talk about,

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Speaker 3: and so we can't. You know, that was it we did.

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Speaker 3: The first round was over and we didn't pick. So

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Speaker 3: we'll see are we doing that this year?

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Speaker 2: We are doing it, Brownie and I are doing it.

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Speaker 2: You're off the hook. You're off the that's why, don't worry.

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Speaker 3: That's great. So it'll be. It'll be one of those

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Speaker 3: nights that I'm with you. Last week, I thought it

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Speaker 3: all right, here we go. It's like, no, not so fast.

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Speaker 3: I'm totally I'm so old. I can't keep track of

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Speaker 2: And at this point in the off season, every single

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Speaker 2: NFL team has scouts that are based all over the country, right,

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Speaker 2: and that's where they're stationed for the year, and they're

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Speaker 2: scouting colleges, they're scouting NFL teams, and you have some

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Speaker 2: scouts in the building as well that stay in the

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Speaker 2: is when all the scouts come back to the building

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Speaker 2: and get ready for the NFL also.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and then they bring this coaching staff in as well,

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Speaker 3: so it's all hands on deck up in the upper

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Speaker 3: levels of the football world. Here, I mean, there's nobody

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Speaker 3: who's not in the building except the guy who's in

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Speaker 3: Green Bay with the card. That's it. Now there's like

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Speaker 3: two guys over there, and I mean you go up,

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Speaker 3: the upstairs is buzzing with people and they're talking out

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Speaker 3: every once in a while we crossed paths with some

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Speaker 3: of these college kids you know that are in there.

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Speaker 3: Who are you?

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Speaker 4: And he?

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Speaker 3: You know, you find out of the guy's names, like, oh, yeah,

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Speaker 3: you're the I've seen your highlights, right, Uh, A lot

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Speaker 3: of fun. But if you're we've got a we've got

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Speaker 3: a topic for discussion. But if you're one of these

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Speaker 3: draft guys, Okay, tell me, Mattie. If you say you're

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Speaker 3: gonna get drafted in the NFL, anythink you're gonna you know,

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Speaker 3: you're you know you're going to get drafted. Do you

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Speaker 3: gotta they got to have somebody there, you know, or

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Speaker 3: do you think about it? So you got you've got siblings,

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Speaker 3: you kind of want to be at home or like

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Speaker 3: in your with all your with all your people. That's

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Speaker 2: That's I was thinking about that this morning as I

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Speaker 2: what's the better option here. I think it's so cool

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Speaker 2: to be able to walk across the stage, shake Roger

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Speaker 2: of a million people, there's so much celebration. You're in

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Speaker 2: your get up, your nice suits. Ye, But it's also

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Speaker 2: awesome to be at home with your family and friends

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Speaker 2: I think I would opt for being at home.

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Speaker 2: Good times.

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Speaker 3: Uh. I'm kind of over being at the drift. And

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Speaker 3: I'm not saying it's just because it's in Green Bay.

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Speaker 3: It's another thing if the NFL is going, hey, we

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Speaker 3: think about it, right, But if it's just left up

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Speaker 3: to me, I'm like, I'm doing my own thing.

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Speaker 2: I just looked at the list. I believe it's the

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Speaker 2: most updated list, and there's seventeen prospects on it. This

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Speaker 2: it would be let's see, yeah, seventeen.

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Speaker 3: You don't want to be that guy, you know. You

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Speaker 2: It's not a good look.

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Speaker 3: It's it's horror. It's a horrible thing.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and look, yeah, Will should have known better, He

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Speaker 3: It happens all the time. I'm just I feel for

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Speaker 3: Fly fly into Milwaukee and drive over. It's God. I

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Speaker 3: It's always like it started out so great. Now it's

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Speaker 2: We are not staying away from all the draft talks

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Speaker 2: NFL analysts are thinking, and some of them, this final

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Speaker 2: who his mock draft is based solely on conversations that

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Speaker 2: he's had and things that he's heard surrounding the thirty

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Speaker 2: has been the favorite mock to Buffalo twenty one different

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Speaker 2: That number is going to continue to grow. We'll do

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Speaker 2: what's happening in the NFL. It's presented by Kalida Healthy,

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Speaker 2: official healthcare system of the Buffalo Bills. Phase one of

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Speaker 2: the off season workouts officially begin today for the Buffalo Bills.

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Speaker 2: There's nine total weeks in these off season workouts. In

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Speaker 3: Yeah, they were out here to day stretching, you know,

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Speaker 3: but they just come in really just come in and

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Speaker 3: guys that come in to learn names. It's been reported

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Speaker 3: he's he knows everybody in the building. It'll be nice

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Speaker 3: it's been reported he's gonna sign pretty soon. But you know,

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Speaker 3: got to be right, nobody else is. And you saw

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Speaker 3: Josh strolling in the building today. They got videos out

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Speaker 3: of the arrival of all these guys back in. I

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Speaker 2: One of the worst days I've ever hear Locker.

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Speaker 3: you know, these guys get back together and it's you know,

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Speaker 2: Imagine there's happiness in the air.

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Speaker 2: This time of the year. Their schedules are not packs because.

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Speaker 2: Since Sean McDermott has been in the building as Buffalo's

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Speaker 2: How does your Bills draft outlook change? And why? We

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Speaker 2: One thing, Steve, that just amazes me anytime I see

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Speaker 2: Acording to Adam Schefter, the deal runs through twenty twenty

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Speaker 3: They're willing to spend cash. That's cash, Like give him

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's amazing. Now you got to think too, some

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Speaker 3: a coaching staff to tab the guys they want to

432
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Speaker 3: keep around for a long time, and don't they got

433
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Speaker 3: to get it right, I mean, because they get further.

434
00:23:34,680 --> 00:23:37,760
Speaker 3: You know, they sign these guys, they can't turn into donkeys.

435
00:23:38,400 --> 00:23:40,800
Speaker 3: They got to be the right guy for four years. Now.

436
00:23:42,640 --> 00:23:46,080
Speaker 3: It's betting on guys they've got in the building because

437
00:23:46,119 --> 00:23:48,919
Speaker 3: they know them and you know that they're willing to

438
00:23:48,920 --> 00:23:53,359
Speaker 3: take those deals. It takes a lot of money obviously

439
00:23:54,520 --> 00:23:58,240
Speaker 3: every year, and you've got to pick the right guys.

440
00:23:58,320 --> 00:24:00,800
Speaker 3: That's all there is to it. It's the same even

441
00:24:00,840 --> 00:24:03,439
Speaker 3: Brandon Bean and Sean mcdermoty. You got to pick the

442
00:24:03,600 --> 00:24:08,960
Speaker 3: right guys for this kind of economic plan to work,

443
00:24:09,560 --> 00:24:11,679
Speaker 3: because when these guys start turning into guys that you

444
00:24:11,720 --> 00:24:14,920
Speaker 3: don't want in your room anymore, you're stuck. You are

445
00:24:14,920 --> 00:24:17,760
Speaker 3: really stuck. That's why it has worked for Buffalo, that's

446
00:24:17,760 --> 00:24:19,439
Speaker 3: why it has worked for some of these other teams.

447
00:24:19,920 --> 00:24:21,560
Speaker 3: You can, you can go as far over the cap

448
00:24:21,600 --> 00:24:23,679
Speaker 3: as you want, but you got to know you're not

449
00:24:23,720 --> 00:24:25,400
Speaker 3: gonna want to get rid of this guy in six

450
00:24:25,440 --> 00:24:28,720
Speaker 3: months or a year, or even two years or sometimes

451
00:24:28,720 --> 00:24:33,040
Speaker 3: even three years. They've got to work out. And that's

452
00:24:33,240 --> 00:24:35,160
Speaker 3: the big roll of the dice at the club makes

453
00:24:35,160 --> 00:24:38,600
Speaker 3: on these guys. The Eagles are getting around, I mean,

454
00:24:38,600 --> 00:24:40,840
Speaker 3: they won a world championship and for some people who

455
00:24:40,880 --> 00:24:43,320
Speaker 3: cares what happens now, right, they've already got a championship,

456
00:24:43,760 --> 00:24:44,120
Speaker 3: but it.

457
00:24:44,080 --> 00:24:46,680
Speaker 2: Looks like they're setting their roster up nicely to make

458
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Speaker 2: a run at it again.

459
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Speaker 3: The Jurgens had your what you said was exactly right,

460
00:24:51,720 --> 00:24:55,080
Speaker 3: Maddie heat Jason Kelsey was a was a guy there.

461
00:24:55,119 --> 00:24:58,400
Speaker 3: It was like a Kyle Williams type of guy, right,

462
00:24:59,280 --> 00:25:03,240
Speaker 3: so he and to step in on the job interview

463
00:25:03,240 --> 00:25:06,640
Speaker 3: and then won a world championship. Yeah, bless his heart

464
00:25:06,640 --> 00:25:09,520
Speaker 3: giving them money, Bless his heart, Bless his herd.

465
00:25:10,000 --> 00:25:12,480
Speaker 2: And the Eagles have draft picks to work with too.

466
00:25:12,560 --> 00:25:15,639
Speaker 2: They've got a first round pick sitting at thirty second,

467
00:25:15,680 --> 00:25:18,159
Speaker 2: They've got a second round pick, a third, and a fourth.

468
00:25:18,240 --> 00:25:22,480
Speaker 2: They have four fifth round picks that who knows what's

469
00:25:22,560 --> 00:25:25,080
Speaker 2: going to happen. Maybe they package those and move up.

470
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Speaker 2: But the Eagles are a team who a lot of

471
00:25:27,000 --> 00:25:31,480
Speaker 2: people look back on different drafts and think, wow, they

472
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Speaker 2: did a lot with what they had.

473
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Speaker 3: Eagles have eight draft picks, but you're right, half of

474
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Speaker 3: them come in the one sixties, one sixty one, one

475
00:25:40,640 --> 00:25:44,080
Speaker 3: sixty four, one sixty five, and one sixty eight, So

476
00:25:44,560 --> 00:25:48,239
Speaker 3: that's their half of their draft class comes after one

477
00:25:48,320 --> 00:25:52,640
Speaker 3: hundred and sixtieth pick, they've got thirty two, sixty four

478
00:25:52,640 --> 00:25:55,199
Speaker 3: and of course ninety six and one, thirty four, thirty two,

479
00:25:55,320 --> 00:25:58,080
Speaker 3: thirty two, thirty two, thirty two. Yes, in the first

480
00:25:58,080 --> 00:26:04,359
Speaker 3: four rounds. So uh yeah, that's when you draft like that.

481
00:26:04,440 --> 00:26:09,760
Speaker 3: And the Bills have were exactly like this. They signed

482
00:26:09,840 --> 00:26:13,080
Speaker 3: three or four guys this offseason to extensions, starting with

483
00:26:13,160 --> 00:26:16,639
Speaker 3: Khalil Shakir. Remember at the combine, it's like okay, and

484
00:26:16,680 --> 00:26:18,359
Speaker 3: then they signed another you know, they re signed all

485
00:26:18,400 --> 00:26:22,000
Speaker 3: their guys. They feel like they're picking the right guys

486
00:26:22,040 --> 00:26:25,199
Speaker 3: as well. So it's it's a philosophy that seems to

487
00:26:25,240 --> 00:26:28,919
Speaker 3: be being adopted by a lot of elite teams.

488
00:26:29,080 --> 00:26:31,560
Speaker 2: Draft, develop and resign. You can't always do it, but

489
00:26:31,600 --> 00:26:33,679
Speaker 2: when you do it, when you can do it, I

490
00:26:33,720 --> 00:26:35,560
Speaker 2: think it says you hit a home run on the

491
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Speaker 2: way that you drafted.

492
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Speaker 3: And it also allows you to if you get those

493
00:26:39,520 --> 00:26:41,760
Speaker 3: guys in the you know they're going to be that

494
00:26:41,920 --> 00:26:44,840
Speaker 3: guy for their entire career. You trust them. They're gonna

495
00:26:44,840 --> 00:26:46,840
Speaker 3: work hard, they're gonna do everything they can, even if

496
00:26:46,880 --> 00:26:49,920
Speaker 3: they're not elite. And the Bills have played a lot

497
00:26:49,920 --> 00:26:53,720
Speaker 3: of guys extensions, but they haven't paid anybody banking. You know,

498
00:26:53,720 --> 00:26:56,160
Speaker 3: they haven't set the mark at any of these positions.

499
00:26:56,359 --> 00:27:00,000
Speaker 3: Kali Shakir is a nice contract, but it's not elite

500
00:27:00,160 --> 00:27:03,560
Speaker 3: receiver money. He's not thirty million bucks a year, right, Uh,

501
00:27:03,800 --> 00:27:06,879
Speaker 3: same thing with the guys they that they've extended.

502
00:27:07,000 --> 00:27:10,600
Speaker 2: Troll Bernard and Greg Russo. The one guy that falls

503
00:27:10,600 --> 00:27:14,240
Speaker 2: into the elite category of paycheck is Josh Allen of course,

504
00:27:14,320 --> 00:27:16,720
Speaker 2: but yeah, deserves that type of money.

505
00:27:17,600 --> 00:27:22,199
Speaker 3: That's right. Nobody's nobody's uh questioning that contract. And I

506
00:27:22,280 --> 00:27:26,240
Speaker 3: was laughing in case you're wondering, I think it had

507
00:27:26,240 --> 00:27:29,640
Speaker 3: cost him a two hundred and nine million in dead

508
00:27:29,680 --> 00:27:32,560
Speaker 3: cap if they cut Josh. Just in case you're wondering, goshah,

509
00:27:32,560 --> 00:27:34,640
Speaker 3: they're not going to do it, that, are right, think

510
00:27:34,640 --> 00:27:37,240
Speaker 3: about it. They're but that you're willing.

511
00:27:37,000 --> 00:27:41,960
Speaker 2: To do that thanks to your taskers. Thinking about it now, it's.

512
00:27:41,840 --> 00:27:43,879
Speaker 3: Two hundred and nine point eight million dollars if you

513
00:27:43,880 --> 00:27:47,040
Speaker 3: want to cut Josh. So ever, they're not going to

514
00:27:47,119 --> 00:27:48,320
Speaker 3: do it, so they don't mind.

515
00:27:48,520 --> 00:27:51,840
Speaker 2: Yes they don't care, Yes, care, pay him the money, pay.

516
00:27:51,760 --> 00:27:56,120
Speaker 3: Him the money, right, they take him. Yeah, they don't

517
00:27:56,119 --> 00:27:58,040
Speaker 3: have to worry if they if they if it cost

518
00:27:58,040 --> 00:28:02,600
Speaker 3: them twohundred nine million to cut Jock, nobody cutting Josh, right.

519
00:28:02,680 --> 00:28:07,439
Speaker 3: So that's that's the economics of the NFL. There's a cap,

520
00:28:08,560 --> 00:28:10,800
Speaker 3: but if you want to work it, you can.

521
00:28:11,080 --> 00:28:13,719
Speaker 2: Yeah, And if you have an owner that's willing to

522
00:28:13,960 --> 00:28:17,040
Speaker 2: play along with you, like like Terry Pagoula, has done

523
00:28:17,240 --> 00:28:21,159
Speaker 2: with this team, and and being willing to work on

524
00:28:21,520 --> 00:28:24,040
Speaker 2: contracts in a way where hey, give these guys this money.

525
00:28:24,080 --> 00:28:29,040
Speaker 3: Now, here's the thing. No, the owners buy and large

526
00:28:29,080 --> 00:28:31,320
Speaker 3: and some of who do the owners buy and large.

527
00:28:31,359 --> 00:28:34,639
Speaker 3: They don't care if they give the money to the

528
00:28:34,640 --> 00:28:36,720
Speaker 3: guy if he's the right guy, if they believe he's

529
00:28:36,760 --> 00:28:39,280
Speaker 3: the right guy too. And he's got he's got it instant.

530
00:28:39,360 --> 00:28:41,040
Speaker 3: He's got a heart that says he's the right guy.

531
00:28:41,040 --> 00:28:42,280
Speaker 3: He's got a head that says he's the right guy.

532
00:28:42,280 --> 00:28:43,920
Speaker 3: He's got a character that says he's the right guy.

533
00:28:43,920 --> 00:28:47,400
Speaker 3: He's got production of course that says he's the right guy, measurables.

534
00:28:47,800 --> 00:28:50,040
Speaker 3: You can see it you walk through the building. It's

535
00:28:50,160 --> 00:28:53,800
Speaker 3: like people gravitate the guy. He proves he's one of

536
00:28:53,800 --> 00:28:58,560
Speaker 3: the guys you need on your team. Give him the money.

537
00:28:58,880 --> 00:29:01,040
Speaker 3: Those are the guys. Everybody, Hey, let's bet on them.

538
00:29:01,080 --> 00:29:03,960
Speaker 3: That's we'll go with these guys. The only time it

539
00:29:04,000 --> 00:29:08,920
Speaker 3: gets you is if you like like a Trey White

540
00:29:09,400 --> 00:29:12,560
Speaker 3: they waived him in blue his achilles after an acl

541
00:29:13,040 --> 00:29:15,960
Speaker 3: or if he turns into an Antonio Brown, he goes

542
00:29:16,040 --> 00:29:19,240
Speaker 3: off the rails mentally. When you give him the money,

543
00:29:19,320 --> 00:29:23,920
Speaker 3: you can't deal with him anymore. Okay, even the thing

544
00:29:24,000 --> 00:29:26,160
Speaker 3: like Steph they're willing to take a thirty eight million

545
00:29:26,200 --> 00:29:30,120
Speaker 3: dollar cap hit to go without him as a number

546
00:29:30,120 --> 00:29:33,200
Speaker 3: one receiver. We know what we've got, guys, we don't

547
00:29:33,240 --> 00:29:36,880
Speaker 3: need him anymore. That's you got to bet on the

548
00:29:36,920 --> 00:29:38,680
Speaker 3: right guys and for the time, as long as they

549
00:29:38,760 --> 00:29:40,560
Speaker 3: produce and they're the right guys and they elevate the

550
00:29:40,560 --> 00:29:43,120
Speaker 3: guys around him, give them the money. Who cares about

551
00:29:43,160 --> 00:29:46,200
Speaker 3: the cap? So that's the That's what Philadelphia is proving

552
00:29:46,240 --> 00:29:48,720
Speaker 3: with their That's what Buffalo has done with their roster.

553
00:29:49,200 --> 00:29:51,520
Speaker 3: You bet on the right guys and you don't care

554
00:29:51,560 --> 00:29:54,680
Speaker 3: about the money, then you can handle it if you

555
00:29:54,680 --> 00:29:55,560
Speaker 3: get the right guys.

556
00:29:55,760 --> 00:29:58,200
Speaker 2: And an added perk to all that is getting the

557
00:29:58,240 --> 00:30:01,560
Speaker 2: right guy on the field. But then when you also

558
00:30:01,680 --> 00:30:04,160
Speaker 2: get the right player in terms of what they add

559
00:30:04,200 --> 00:30:06,920
Speaker 2: to your locker room. I think about a player like

560
00:30:07,000 --> 00:30:10,120
Speaker 2: Terrell Bernard and Khalil Shakir, who I think mean a

561
00:30:10,160 --> 00:30:13,160
Speaker 2: lot to that locker room. And we heard this pass

562
00:30:13,280 --> 00:30:16,320
Speaker 2: off this past season, I should say, once the team

563
00:30:16,360 --> 00:30:20,440
Speaker 2: got into the playoffs, the speeches that Terrell Bernard was

564
00:30:20,480 --> 00:30:24,760
Speaker 2: giving to the defense and his teammates. And it says

565
00:30:24,760 --> 00:30:27,080
Speaker 2: a lot about the scouting department and the coaching staff

566
00:30:27,120 --> 00:30:29,160
Speaker 2: to identify a guy like that in the draft who

567
00:30:29,160 --> 00:30:32,920
Speaker 2: maybe didn't have the measurables in terms of his physical makeup,

568
00:30:33,320 --> 00:30:35,640
Speaker 2: but had the heart, the will and the want, and

569
00:30:35,680 --> 00:30:39,520
Speaker 2: the coaching staff turned that into something even bigger at

570
00:30:39,520 --> 00:30:41,200
Speaker 2: the NFL level and look at him.

571
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Speaker 3: Now, Yeah, that's exactly right. And here's the thing too,

572
00:30:44,760 --> 00:30:46,840
Speaker 3: we talked about. That's where we're get right back to

573
00:30:46,880 --> 00:30:50,320
Speaker 3: the draft. You look at what you're bringing in these

574
00:30:50,320 --> 00:30:52,720
Speaker 3: guys in the draft. You want them to be that

575
00:30:52,880 --> 00:30:56,920
Speaker 3: guy because they're cheap. Now you can make it. Now

576
00:30:56,960 --> 00:31:00,000
Speaker 3: that helps everybody else. I mean you can you can

577
00:31:00,000 --> 00:31:02,040
Speaker 3: and keep the guys who have really produced it in

578
00:31:02,080 --> 00:31:05,480
Speaker 3: their second contract. Because you get enough guys in this

579
00:31:06,040 --> 00:31:08,400
Speaker 3: ten picks of the twenty twenty five draft that the

580
00:31:08,440 --> 00:31:11,480
Speaker 3: Bills have coming to them. How awesome would it be

581
00:31:11,520 --> 00:31:13,800
Speaker 3: off eight of them make it? Just eight, not even ten,

582
00:31:14,360 --> 00:31:18,720
Speaker 3: just eight make the team? Or if you get four

583
00:31:18,840 --> 00:31:21,240
Speaker 3: starters out of it. You go back in history and

584
00:31:21,320 --> 00:31:24,800
Speaker 3: you see there was a team the two thousand teams.

585
00:31:25,920 --> 00:31:30,880
Speaker 3: Seattle Seahawks got four starters in two consecutive drafts. They

586
00:31:30,920 --> 00:31:33,000
Speaker 3: won the Super Bowl. Yeah, that's the kind of thing

587
00:31:33,000 --> 00:31:36,200
Speaker 3: that happen. That's what happens. You go back and look

588
00:31:36,200 --> 00:31:39,720
Speaker 3: at anybody's draft, and unless they were zero to sixteen

589
00:31:40,120 --> 00:31:43,560
Speaker 3: Detroit Lions, or the or the Browns or one of

590
00:31:43,600 --> 00:31:48,000
Speaker 3: those teams where they didn't have anybody, you can't find

591
00:31:48,160 --> 00:31:50,600
Speaker 3: a team that can draft well enough to get four

592
00:31:50,680 --> 00:31:54,640
Speaker 3: starters out of that draft. It almost never happens. And

593
00:31:54,640 --> 00:31:57,560
Speaker 3: that's picking seven picks eight, you know those all those

594
00:31:57,560 --> 00:32:01,680
Speaker 3: picks that every team has. They a couple of teams.

595
00:32:01,720 --> 00:32:03,800
Speaker 3: The Seahawks are the great example. I know that I

596
00:32:03,840 --> 00:32:07,000
Speaker 3: read about got four starters one year, four starters the

597
00:32:07,040 --> 00:32:10,040
Speaker 3: next year, leading to boom boom, two straight super Bowls.

598
00:32:10,120 --> 00:32:10,680
Speaker 2: Incredible.

599
00:32:10,720 --> 00:32:12,760
Speaker 3: They won one, lost the next one when they when

600
00:32:12,800 --> 00:32:13,560
Speaker 3: they threw it.

601
00:32:13,960 --> 00:32:17,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, oh gosh. Everybody knows where they were when that

602
00:32:17,080 --> 00:32:19,280
Speaker 2: play happened, where they were watching that game from.

603
00:32:19,680 --> 00:32:22,239
Speaker 3: This whole draft thing is all about it. Man. If

604
00:32:22,280 --> 00:32:25,960
Speaker 3: you can find if you can drive two, one or

605
00:32:25,960 --> 00:32:28,000
Speaker 3: two starters, it's awesome because you're gonna get the first

606
00:32:28,040 --> 00:32:30,240
Speaker 3: and second rounder. Okay, those guys are great, you measure

607
00:32:30,240 --> 00:32:32,640
Speaker 3: you can kind of get them. They're starters. The Bills

608
00:32:32,680 --> 00:32:38,520
Speaker 3: know it, Brousseau at Oliver, all of these guys, Bernard

609
00:32:41,240 --> 00:32:45,920
Speaker 3: Benford and Tarren Johnson and Milano Diamond. That's why your

610
00:32:45,920 --> 00:32:48,280
Speaker 3: team ol And I know it's Josh too, and I

611
00:32:48,360 --> 00:32:50,240
Speaker 3: get it, and Josh's elite.

612
00:32:50,120 --> 00:32:52,080
Speaker 2: But when you're paying Josh big time money, you gotta

613
00:32:52,120 --> 00:32:53,320
Speaker 2: find guys in the draft.

614
00:32:53,400 --> 00:32:56,640
Speaker 3: It's the rest of these guys too. So this draft,

615
00:32:58,160 --> 00:32:59,600
Speaker 3: you say what you want out of it, I don't

616
00:32:59,600 --> 00:33:02,160
Speaker 3: get if you can get a couple of starters out

617
00:33:02,160 --> 00:33:05,719
Speaker 3: of it, contributors, plus the fact that you got an

618
00:33:05,720 --> 00:33:09,160
Speaker 3: elite roster already both Basically I said this last week, Maddie.

619
00:33:09,560 --> 00:33:12,840
Speaker 3: Most teams would love to have the Bills problems on

620
00:33:12,880 --> 00:33:14,800
Speaker 3: their roster. They'd love it.

621
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Speaker 2: You're still in the same place, corner.

622
00:33:16,600 --> 00:33:19,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, I don't know if we even need that now.

623
00:33:20,400 --> 00:33:23,280
Speaker 3: Trey was you know, Trey's get He's not getting veteran minimum.

624
00:33:23,360 --> 00:33:28,040
Speaker 3: He's getting like reportedly six plus million bucks. You know,

625
00:33:30,600 --> 00:33:33,920
Speaker 3: Rasul's probably looking for that. You know, they think ahead,

626
00:33:33,920 --> 00:33:37,680
Speaker 3: bring these guys back. You know. Uh, It's a lot

627
00:33:37,720 --> 00:33:39,440
Speaker 3: of teams were like, I wish I had their problem.

628
00:33:39,480 --> 00:33:41,920
Speaker 3: You know, we don't have quarterback problems. I know that

629
00:33:43,080 --> 00:33:47,680
Speaker 3: you know we don't have offensive line problems. Nope, our

630
00:33:47,800 --> 00:33:50,600
Speaker 3: our skill set, our skill guys on offense, forget it.

631
00:33:51,800 --> 00:33:55,680
Speaker 3: So I'm just try and find somebody in this on Thursdays.

632
00:33:55,720 --> 00:33:59,880
Speaker 3: Give us somebody, Just give us. If we get two

633
00:34:00,120 --> 00:34:02,560
Speaker 3: guys that like line up on day one, opening day,

634
00:34:04,520 --> 00:34:07,040
Speaker 3: it's a home run on this roster because it's hard

635
00:34:07,080 --> 00:34:09,480
Speaker 3: to make, let alone, start above the guys that are

636
00:34:09,480 --> 00:34:10,680
Speaker 3: already there. I don't know.

637
00:34:10,719 --> 00:34:13,560
Speaker 2: We'll see that's true. Break time for us when we return,

638
00:34:14,160 --> 00:34:17,600
Speaker 2: answering your comments on our tweets sheet. Our topic today

639
00:34:17,600 --> 00:34:21,359
Speaker 2: for you after the reported edition of Tourdevius White, how

640
00:34:21,360 --> 00:34:24,920
Speaker 2: does your Bills draft outlook change and why? Also coming

641
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Speaker 2: up on the show at two o'clock, we have NFL

642
00:34:27,640 --> 00:34:30,600
Speaker 2: analysts from the thirty third team, Marcus Mosher joining us

643
00:34:30,640 --> 00:34:34,239
Speaker 2: to dive into what he thinks Buffalo should do on

644
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Speaker 2: Thursday Night, Friday and Saturday. All that coming out next year.

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Speaker 2: On One Bill's Live, We're presented by Clydehealth on Buffalo

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Speaker 2: Bills Radio. All right, we're back here on One Bill's Live.

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Speaker 2: We've got a topic for you today that I think

648
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Speaker 2: a lot of people would want to chime in on

649
00:34:59,120 --> 00:35:01,680
Speaker 2: because it has to do with how this roster changes

650
00:35:02,000 --> 00:35:05,040
Speaker 2: with a new addition to the roster. Reports are out

651
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Speaker 2: there that Tredevious White is going to join the Bills,

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Speaker 2: So we want to know how does this affect your

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Speaker 2: thoughts surrounding the NFL Draft as we're just a few

654
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Speaker 2: days away. Do you think corner is still a need

655
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Speaker 2: for Buffalo in the first round or do you believe

656
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Speaker 2: the addition to Trey White makes it so that the

657
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Speaker 2: Bills can look elsewhere and really go best player available

658
00:35:23,719 --> 00:35:26,000
Speaker 2: in the first round. We want to go to the

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Speaker 2: phone lines to continue talking about this. We're going to

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Speaker 2: go to Moron out of Virginia. I'm Ron, thanks for

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Speaker 2: being on with us.

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Speaker 6: Hey Maddie, and See thanks for taking my pall. But

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Speaker 6: I'll just say just two quick things if I made

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Speaker 6: answer your question, I don't think the addition of Trey

665
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Speaker 6: White will change Draftsmans. I think we still need a younger,

666
00:35:43,040 --> 00:35:46,120
Speaker 6: cheaper porn the roster. But my main question is in

667
00:35:46,160 --> 00:35:49,200
Speaker 6: regards to James Cook. I'm gonna believe that the Bills

668
00:35:49,200 --> 00:35:51,400
Speaker 6: aren't going to resign him next year and love and

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Speaker 6: test reagency. Do you all think that his replacement is

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Speaker 6: on roster now it is just a good year of

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Speaker 6: drafts running backs since you replace him, thank you very much.

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Speaker 3: I'll say this, James was a second round pick out

673
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Speaker 3: at Georgia. His trades because of his speed and his

674
00:36:10,440 --> 00:36:15,960
Speaker 3: pass catching ability put him in the second round. This

675
00:36:16,120 --> 00:36:21,520
Speaker 3: is a I think a running back rich draft, and

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Speaker 3: I say, Rich, there's some good ones.

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Speaker 2: Uh.

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Speaker 3: I don't know that his replacement full time would be

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Speaker 3: on the roster. Here's the thing, though, even if even

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00:36:31,360 --> 00:36:33,080
Speaker 3: with James Cook on the roster, you're still gonna see

681
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Speaker 3: a lot of Ray Davis. You're still going to see

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Speaker 3: a lot of Ty Johnson, and you might see Frank

683
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Speaker 3: Gore Junior's you know, time increase if like if you

684
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Speaker 3: if you plucked James Cook off the roster for something

685
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Speaker 3: like if James Cook decides he's holding out, you know

686
00:36:50,400 --> 00:36:52,640
Speaker 3: they're gonna they're gonna move on and they're still gonna

687
00:36:52,680 --> 00:36:55,200
Speaker 3: have three guys on the roster. They're still gonna rotate

688
00:36:55,239 --> 00:36:58,600
Speaker 3: guys in. They do that with their offensive backs and

689
00:36:58,680 --> 00:37:01,000
Speaker 3: they do it with their defensive line. They do it

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00:37:01,080 --> 00:37:05,759
Speaker 3: on both sides of the ball at different positions. And

691
00:37:05,800 --> 00:37:07,719
Speaker 3: that's one of the things that you've heard Brownie and

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Speaker 3: myself as well say this. One of the reasons James

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00:37:10,400 --> 00:37:12,920
Speaker 3: Cook is hard to put him in the elite category

694
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Speaker 3: with Travis Henry or sau Derrick Henry or Saquon Barkley

695
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Speaker 3: is because he didn't carry the ball as much as

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Speaker 3: they do. He had two hundred and seven carries last

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Speaker 3: year and two hundred and fifty plus total touches. I mean, Derrick,

698
00:37:30,520 --> 00:37:34,840
Speaker 3: Henry and Saquan will have over three hundred just carries,

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00:37:34,880 --> 00:37:38,160
Speaker 3: forget about their catches. So they just get a much

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00:37:38,239 --> 00:37:41,840
Speaker 3: much bigger workload than the Bills ask of their running backs.

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00:37:42,360 --> 00:37:45,560
Speaker 3: So they're not going to pay a running back elite

702
00:37:45,560 --> 00:37:48,240
Speaker 3: money if they're not even asking him to do elite work.

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Speaker 3: So now, James Cook was mega productive this year. He

704
00:37:53,640 --> 00:37:55,239
Speaker 3: was great. He was a home run waiting to happen.

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Speaker 3: He had a lot of big runs and all of that.

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Speaker 3: But I think you're right, Imron, I I think they're

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Speaker 3: gonna let him test the market. They'll make him an offer.

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Speaker 3: He'll have them, he'll have the number in his pocket

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Speaker 3: that the Bills are willing to go. And if somebody

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Speaker 3: else jumps up and says, yeah, we'll give you eighteen

711
00:38:10,160 --> 00:38:13,320
Speaker 3: million a year, he'll take it. So we're saying eighteen,

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Speaker 3: I'm hyperbolzing. If seems twelve or fifteen million bucks. If

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Speaker 3: the Bills aren't there, he'll say, I'll take the money

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Speaker 3: and the bills, you know, and he'll be happy. The

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Speaker 3: problem is this, I'm with you, and it's not gonna

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Speaker 3: happen this year. He's gonna have to play his contract out.

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Speaker 3: He's gonna have to play this fourth year in order

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Speaker 3: to get the second contract from Buffalo. Now he can

719
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Speaker 3: force that and say, hey, trade me now, I don't

720
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Speaker 3: want to play, you know, and get a new deal

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Speaker 3: from another team if he can force a trade, but

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Speaker 3: he's gonna he's gonna have to play the fan. This

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Speaker 3: contract this year is for five million bucks plus a year.

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Speaker 3: So this for this year, I think that's the rub.

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Speaker 3: If James Cook comes out bets on himself and this

726
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Speaker 3: is the year the Bills go to win the Super

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Speaker 3: Bowl and he's a huge part of it, he'll hit

728
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Speaker 3: the home run. Financially. I mean, he may get Saquon money,

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00:39:05,480 --> 00:39:09,759
Speaker 3: he may get Derrick Henry money, but he's gonna have

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Speaker 3: to play.

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Speaker 2: As it relates to running backs in this year's draft,

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Speaker 2: regardless of if James Cook is or is not on

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Speaker 2: the roster next season. I really hope he is because

734
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Speaker 2: I think he's been an incredible addition to the roster

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Speaker 2: and what he did last season I would love to

736
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Speaker 2: see more of throughout the coming years. But since this

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Speaker 2: draft class is so rich, like you said, in running backs,

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Speaker 2: I would do my due diligence and look at running backs.

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Speaker 2: Look at Day three running backs is where I would

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Speaker 2: probably go with what Buffalo has right now, a couple

741
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Speaker 2: of fourth rounders, a couple of fifth rounders. I would

742
00:39:48,680 --> 00:39:51,920
Speaker 2: want to see what's out there. You never know how

743
00:39:52,080 --> 00:39:54,239
Speaker 2: some of these younger guys are going to develop, and

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00:39:54,560 --> 00:39:58,439
Speaker 2: you never know how a draft pick who Buffalo could

745
00:39:58,520 --> 00:40:03,680
Speaker 2: go after running back, and maybe they do become something

746
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Speaker 2: like a James Cook in the future and they find

747
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Speaker 2: a diamond in the rough there. I think there's several

748
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Speaker 2: impressive running backs who we talked about on Thursday's show

749
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Speaker 2: with Greg Cosel. That made me really excited about the group.

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Speaker 2: So I'm interested to see what Buffalo does at that

751
00:40:19,520 --> 00:40:23,719
Speaker 2: position group if they decide to go and find themselves

752
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Speaker 2: a Day three running backer who knows when in the draft.

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Speaker 2: But I think it's worth doing because of how people

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Speaker 2: have talked about this running back group.

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Speaker 3: In the draft, and you go through you know, all

756
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Speaker 3: the big what they call the big boards and the

757
00:40:38,719 --> 00:40:40,319
Speaker 3: big boards if you don't know, if you don't know

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Speaker 3: what that is, it's every team scout analysts. They put

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Speaker 3: their players and rank the players from top to bottom,

760
00:40:51,040 --> 00:40:55,759
Speaker 3: regardless of their position. They just say, this guy's at

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Speaker 3: this position is better than that guy at that position,

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Speaker 3: and they rank them. If the draft I went strictly

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Speaker 3: on how who's going to be the best professional football player,

764
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Speaker 3: regardless of position. That's how it goes. And there's three

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Speaker 3: of the top fifty guys are running backs this year's

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Speaker 3: it's Ashton Gionte, Omarion Hampton, Genti, Omarion Hampton, and Traveon

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Speaker 3: Henderson who's out of Ohio state. If that's the one

768
00:41:24,239 --> 00:41:29,000
Speaker 3: I'm looking at right now. So there's gonna be some

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Speaker 3: running backs in this available so that I hate to say,

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Speaker 3: this has always been my problem with running back. There's

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Speaker 3: a ton of them. There's a ton of them, and

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Speaker 3: a lot of them who are elite in certain parts

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Speaker 3: of their game, if and if not many parts of

774
00:41:47,760 --> 00:41:52,040
Speaker 3: their game, and they drop they drop down the you know,

775
00:41:52,960 --> 00:41:55,960
Speaker 3: they drop down the board because we got to them.

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00:41:56,000 --> 00:41:59,480
Speaker 3: We really like We got Ty Johnson and Ray Davis.

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Speaker 2: Who are great for really good.

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Speaker 3: We love them, you know, so we don't want to

779
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Speaker 3: get rid of the well. No, we'll take these guys

780
00:42:05,360 --> 00:42:08,279
Speaker 3: and we'll throw in this And there's another one Quinn

781
00:42:08,320 --> 00:42:12,680
Speaker 3: Shawn Judkins, Ohio State running back. Two Ohio State running

782
00:42:12,719 --> 00:42:14,800
Speaker 3: backs coming out in this draft that are really high

783
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Speaker 3: for these for these teams. You know at that position,

784
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Speaker 3: they're in the top five of the position. So there's

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00:42:22,719 --> 00:42:26,359
Speaker 3: gonna be some guys. There's gonna be some guys.

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Speaker 2: All right, will take one more phone call before you

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Speaker 2: go to break. Tom from the West Side joins us.

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Speaker 5: Now, Hey, Tom, hey kids having Dungis Day and made

789
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Speaker 5: the Pope rust in peace. Steve, you're not allowed to

790
00:42:39,400 --> 00:42:43,040
Speaker 5: forget what day or a week it is until your retire, buddy,

791
00:42:43,400 --> 00:42:44,680
Speaker 5: So a.

792
00:42:44,800 --> 00:42:47,000
Speaker 3: Tim I've retired twice. Don't forget.

793
00:42:47,480 --> 00:42:53,680
Speaker 5: So you came out of retirement. You're on the show. Uh'sen.

794
00:42:53,760 --> 00:42:57,400
Speaker 5: I still believe the Bills are going to take two dts,

795
00:42:57,920 --> 00:43:03,120
Speaker 5: a cornerback and a safety. And my original scenario was

796
00:43:03,120 --> 00:43:07,240
Speaker 5: they stay at thirty and they got their two two's,

797
00:43:07,719 --> 00:43:09,960
Speaker 5: and then they take a four, five, and six and

798
00:43:10,080 --> 00:43:14,680
Speaker 5: move up into the third. But if the Bills move back, well,

799
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Speaker 5: if they move up, if they move up, that's gonna

800
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Speaker 5: hurt my moving up in the third round. Sure, But

801
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Speaker 5: if they move back, would they pick up a second

802
00:43:25,719 --> 00:43:29,040
Speaker 5: and a third and then we can still take the four, five,

803
00:43:29,080 --> 00:43:32,279
Speaker 5: and six and move back into the third round and

804
00:43:32,440 --> 00:43:37,120
Speaker 5: get three twos and two threes and on day two

805
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Speaker 5: because then we could get the two dts, a defensive end,

806
00:43:41,120 --> 00:43:44,200
Speaker 5: a cornerback, and a safety. I believe they're going to

807
00:43:44,280 --> 00:43:47,880
Speaker 5: go defense heavy in the draft. They'll they'll put the

808
00:43:47,920 --> 00:43:50,840
Speaker 5: offense later. I still think they're going to take a

809
00:43:50,880 --> 00:43:54,279
Speaker 5: wide receiver and a running back, but on Day one

810
00:43:54,400 --> 00:43:57,840
Speaker 5: or two, I want to see all defense. Go ahead

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Speaker 5: and talk about it.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I get you, Tom, and I get it. The

813
00:44:00,960 --> 00:44:03,279
Speaker 3: stuff you're talking about moving under the getting into the

814
00:44:03,320 --> 00:44:07,720
Speaker 3: third and getting using all the four picks or five

815
00:44:07,760 --> 00:44:09,920
Speaker 3: picks in the back of the draft to move up

816
00:44:09,960 --> 00:44:12,040
Speaker 3: to get one or two more picks in the third

817
00:44:12,120 --> 00:44:15,160
Speaker 3: round or in third or fourth or second whatever round

818
00:44:15,200 --> 00:44:20,200
Speaker 3: you want to pick. They can do it. But it's pricey.

819
00:44:21,160 --> 00:44:26,239
Speaker 3: It's pricey, and you know they may, and anytime you

820
00:44:26,280 --> 00:44:28,560
Speaker 3: move up into the third or fourth round or the

821
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Speaker 3: fifth round, if you move up there, there's a chance

822
00:44:31,840 --> 00:44:34,799
Speaker 3: you didn't need to do that. Once you get out

823
00:44:34,840 --> 00:44:37,440
Speaker 3: of the first round, and particularly into the third round,

824
00:44:38,320 --> 00:44:41,600
Speaker 3: the evaluation and then the finger quotes and needs of

825
00:44:41,640 --> 00:44:48,640
Speaker 3: these teams starts to be scattershot. You may trade up

826
00:44:48,960 --> 00:44:50,719
Speaker 3: around and a half to get a guy that you

827
00:44:50,760 --> 00:44:52,920
Speaker 3: could have waited around and a half from where you

828
00:44:52,960 --> 00:44:56,440
Speaker 3: were to begin with to get. That's how wide ranging

829
00:44:56,480 --> 00:44:58,920
Speaker 3: the evaluations and the needs are for these guys. So

830
00:45:00,760 --> 00:45:02,840
Speaker 3: when you start moving around in the lower parts of

831
00:45:02,880 --> 00:45:07,920
Speaker 3: the draft, it better be for a guy you are

832
00:45:08,040 --> 00:45:11,360
Speaker 3: absolutely positive is gonna make your team. And I know

833
00:45:11,440 --> 00:45:14,000
Speaker 3: that sounds crazy for a fourth rounder or a third rounder,

834
00:45:14,440 --> 00:45:18,439
Speaker 3: but that's because the evaluations are so wide ranging. There's

835
00:45:18,480 --> 00:45:21,640
Speaker 3: no need to move to go get the guy. There's

836
00:45:21,680 --> 00:45:23,399
Speaker 3: no really no need to move because if he makes

837
00:45:23,440 --> 00:45:27,840
Speaker 3: it through three rounds down to the fourth round, just

838
00:45:28,040 --> 00:45:33,200
Speaker 3: wait and take him. Yes, all that stuff you said

839
00:45:33,200 --> 00:45:35,360
Speaker 3: could happen, and the Bills could do it, and I

840
00:45:35,440 --> 00:45:37,160
Speaker 3: agree with you. The first three picks I think are

841
00:45:37,200 --> 00:45:41,480
Speaker 3: gonna be defense heavy unless unless this kid, Luther Burden

842
00:45:42,480 --> 00:45:45,600
Speaker 3: drops or is a wide receiver from Missouri. Maybe he'll

843
00:45:45,600 --> 00:45:48,200
Speaker 3: be available. Man, he's a little bit of that. He's

844
00:45:48,239 --> 00:45:49,680
Speaker 3: got a little bit of dog in him, and he's

845
00:45:50,440 --> 00:45:52,640
Speaker 3: got a lot of upside and you know the whole thing.

846
00:45:53,320 --> 00:45:56,520
Speaker 3: So he might outshine one of the defensive tackles that

847
00:45:56,600 --> 00:46:01,040
Speaker 3: you might get later. Yes, I'm with you, Tom, You're right.

848
00:46:01,120 --> 00:46:03,320
Speaker 3: I think they're going to take three defensive players in

849
00:46:03,360 --> 00:46:06,080
Speaker 3: the first three picks. If they pick it, indeed, pick

850
00:46:06,080 --> 00:46:08,880
Speaker 3: in those spots. If they don't pick in those spots,

851
00:46:08,880 --> 00:46:09,640
Speaker 3: all bets are off.

852
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Speaker 2: One thing I want to add to that is it

853
00:46:13,120 --> 00:46:16,160
Speaker 2: might be depending on where they trade back to, it

854
00:46:16,239 --> 00:46:18,799
Speaker 2: might be hard to pick up an extra second round pick.

855
00:46:18,840 --> 00:46:22,839
Speaker 2: They're already so they're already deep into the first round,

856
00:46:22,840 --> 00:46:25,600
Speaker 2: sitting at thirty to trade back a few spots to

857
00:46:25,640 --> 00:46:27,120
Speaker 2: get into the second round. I don't think you're going

858
00:46:27,200 --> 00:46:29,320
Speaker 2: to pick up an extra second round pick or anything

859
00:46:29,360 --> 00:46:32,799
Speaker 2: like that, but who knows. We'll see. Maybe they could

860
00:46:32,800 --> 00:46:35,320
Speaker 2: get I would not be surprised if they find a

861
00:46:35,320 --> 00:46:38,279
Speaker 2: way to get into the third round and get a

862
00:46:38,280 --> 00:46:40,000
Speaker 2: pick there based on what they have in the fourth

863
00:46:40,040 --> 00:46:42,600
Speaker 2: and the fifth round. Right now, break time for us,

864
00:46:42,640 --> 00:46:45,839
Speaker 2: when we return, gonna answer more calls, and coming up

865
00:46:45,880 --> 00:46:48,480
Speaker 2: at two, we have NFL analysts from the thirty third team,

866
00:46:48,520 --> 00:46:51,120
Speaker 2: Marcus Mosher joining the show. Stick with this year on

867
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Speaker 2: One Bill's Live or presented by Clyde Health on Buffalo

868
00:46:53,680 --> 00:47:09,919
Speaker 2: Bills Radio. All right, we're back here on one Bills.

869
00:47:09,960 --> 00:47:12,160
Speaker 2: We'll I have a lot of draft talk because the

870
00:47:12,200 --> 00:47:15,279
Speaker 2: twenty twenty five NFL Draft begins on a Thursday night.

871
00:47:15,400 --> 00:47:16,879
Speaker 2: The Bills aren't going to be on the clock till

872
00:47:16,880 --> 00:47:20,600
Speaker 2: like eleven thirty midnight. Wa way past our bedtimes. But

873
00:47:21,360 --> 00:47:24,560
Speaker 2: we're gonna be alive and awake and well and excited.

874
00:47:24,680 --> 00:47:26,640
Speaker 3: Brown, You're doing a live show, so tune in.

875
00:47:26,800 --> 00:47:29,880
Speaker 2: You'll be at home with the pop. Tell me what happens,

876
00:47:30,440 --> 00:47:31,360
Speaker 2: Tell you what happens.

877
00:47:31,760 --> 00:47:36,120
Speaker 3: Oskar's going to be asleep. You know how everybody has

878
00:47:36,160 --> 00:47:40,560
Speaker 3: this job. We gotta break here again were everybody has

879
00:47:40,560 --> 00:47:43,080
Speaker 3: these details in their job that kind of make a difference.

880
00:47:43,280 --> 00:47:45,239
Speaker 3: Nobody really noticed until something goes wrong. We got a

881
00:47:45,239 --> 00:47:48,279
Speaker 3: clock over here that tells us we can't even we

882
00:47:48,320 --> 00:47:49,839
Speaker 3: don't even know when we're supposed to go to break.

883
00:47:49,880 --> 00:47:53,040
Speaker 3: We're like way behind on all our We were like

884
00:47:53,080 --> 00:47:55,520
Speaker 3: five minutes over on the first break and we can't.

885
00:47:55,160 --> 00:47:58,360
Speaker 3: We can't set the clock in the studio, so we

886
00:47:58,440 --> 00:48:01,319
Speaker 3: have no idea what time it is, even though our

887
00:48:01,560 --> 00:48:03,239
Speaker 3: computers have it down a little.

888
00:48:02,960 --> 00:48:04,840
Speaker 2: Corner dragging me up to this.

889
00:48:04,920 --> 00:48:07,799
Speaker 3: It's driving me crazy that this clock is busted and

890
00:48:07,800 --> 00:48:10,160
Speaker 3: we can't set it. I'm gonna talk to j Harris.

891
00:48:10,320 --> 00:48:12,360
Speaker 2: That's what we're dealing with here right now in the

892
00:48:12,440 --> 00:48:13,839
Speaker 2: studio at one Bill Street.

893
00:48:14,040 --> 00:48:17,000
Speaker 3: Like we're all huddled around this digital clock that we're

894
00:48:17,000 --> 00:48:19,640
Speaker 3: trying to get this Oh my gosh, it's oh my gosh,

895
00:48:19,680 --> 00:48:26,000
Speaker 3: how you get dependent on technology? And it's all.

896
00:48:24,080 --> 00:48:25,800
Speaker 2: Right quick before we go to break, we're going to

897
00:48:25,840 --> 00:48:28,239
Speaker 2: take one phone call from Paul in Arizona. Hey, Paul,

898
00:48:28,239 --> 00:48:28,680
Speaker 2: what's up?

899
00:48:30,120 --> 00:48:32,839
Speaker 7: Hi Maddie, Hi Steve, Happy Dingus day.

900
00:48:33,160 --> 00:48:33,839
Speaker 2: Yeah you too.

901
00:48:35,360 --> 00:48:38,280
Speaker 7: I was curious after hearing you guys talk about running

902
00:48:38,280 --> 00:48:41,080
Speaker 7: backs last week, and I know speed is coveted in

903
00:48:41,160 --> 00:48:44,879
Speaker 7: the NFL, and it's really the only drawback of this

904
00:48:44,920 --> 00:48:46,839
Speaker 7: one running back that I've gotten to see a lot

905
00:48:46,880 --> 00:48:49,080
Speaker 7: out here? Is what you thought of Cam's scataboo.

906
00:48:49,280 --> 00:48:53,160
Speaker 2: Cam scataboo out of Arizona State. We appreciate the call.

907
00:48:53,480 --> 00:48:57,319
Speaker 3: Cam Scataboo is an interesting dude, because I'll say this,

908
00:48:57,440 --> 00:49:01,239
Speaker 3: he is, he's tough to tackle, he's got a high

909
00:49:01,400 --> 00:49:02,920
Speaker 3: ic and to me, he looks like he's got a

910
00:49:02,960 --> 00:49:05,879
Speaker 3: high football. IQ does all the right things. He never

911
00:49:05,880 --> 00:49:07,640
Speaker 3: makes a mistake with the ball in his hands. You know.

912
00:49:07,680 --> 00:49:12,399
Speaker 3: He reminds me of is the way back in the day.

913
00:49:12,440 --> 00:49:17,360
Speaker 3: The Bill's got him. Gordy Lockbomb. Gordi Lockbomb was a

914
00:49:17,400 --> 00:49:19,120
Speaker 3: kid who was like third in the place for the

915
00:49:19,160 --> 00:49:23,200
Speaker 3: Heisman's and was from like holy Cross. He's never never

916
00:49:23,239 --> 00:49:24,920
Speaker 3: had a chance to win the Heisman because he was

917
00:49:24,920 --> 00:49:26,399
Speaker 3: a holy Cross, but he got he was a third

918
00:49:26,440 --> 00:49:30,080
Speaker 3: and finalist, right, So he comes to Buffalo and plays

919
00:49:30,080 --> 00:49:31,759
Speaker 3: with us, and I'll say this about it. What I

920
00:49:31,880 --> 00:49:33,799
Speaker 3: do notice about him, And there was a couple of

921
00:49:33,800 --> 00:49:37,200
Speaker 3: guys in my career that I saw like this. They

922
00:49:37,320 --> 00:49:39,600
Speaker 3: just don't make a mistake with the ball in their hand.

923
00:49:40,320 --> 00:49:42,840
Speaker 3: Every yard you see, even if you go back and

924
00:49:42,920 --> 00:49:45,560
Speaker 3: watch the film, they always get every single yard that's

925
00:49:45,560 --> 00:49:50,280
Speaker 3: coming to him. And this kid, Scatterbo, he gets yards

926
00:49:50,280 --> 00:49:55,120
Speaker 3: he doesn't deserve because guys have trouble tackling him. He's

927
00:49:55,160 --> 00:49:58,360
Speaker 3: an intriguing prospect. He and you're right, he's not running

928
00:49:58,360 --> 00:50:01,919
Speaker 3: forties for anybody. He's too slow. That's the word on him.

929
00:50:02,000 --> 00:50:05,719
Speaker 3: It's too slow. But man oh man, he's one of

930
00:50:05,760 --> 00:50:07,240
Speaker 3: those dudes that gets it done.

931
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Speaker 4: Right.

932
00:50:09,520 --> 00:50:12,560
Speaker 3: So where he gets drafted's going to be very interesting.

933
00:50:13,760 --> 00:50:15,799
Speaker 3: But I think whoever drafts him's going to get a

934
00:50:15,800 --> 00:50:17,799
Speaker 3: guy that's gonna grind it out. And you're gonna find

935
00:50:17,840 --> 00:50:21,120
Speaker 3: out when you're six games into the season it's like, Wow,

936
00:50:21,520 --> 00:50:23,839
Speaker 3: I can't believe the guy made our roster and now

937
00:50:23,920 --> 00:50:25,680
Speaker 3: six games into the seasons like, oh my gosh, how

938
00:50:25,719 --> 00:50:27,560
Speaker 3: do we live without him? It's gonna be one of

939
00:50:27,600 --> 00:50:30,320
Speaker 3: those guys, right He's going to be a Terrell Bernard,

940
00:50:30,560 --> 00:50:33,160
Speaker 3: a Taron Johnson or a Matt Mulano kind of guy,

941
00:50:33,520 --> 00:50:35,800
Speaker 3: mid round draft pick that and teams are going to

942
00:50:35,840 --> 00:50:40,520
Speaker 3: be like, dude, he's he's a franchise. That's the kind

943
00:50:40,560 --> 00:50:42,080
Speaker 3: of guy. If you're going to take a chance on him,

944
00:50:42,080 --> 00:50:43,279
Speaker 3: that's the kind of guy you want to take a

945
00:50:43,360 --> 00:50:44,560
Speaker 3: chance on. Projection.

946
00:50:44,960 --> 00:50:47,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, projection for him right now is round four. So

947
00:50:47,719 --> 00:50:50,480
Speaker 2: maybe it's somewhere that if the Bills think, hey, running

948
00:50:50,520 --> 00:50:53,080
Speaker 2: back is on our list, maybe it's somewhere that they

949
00:50:53,160 --> 00:50:56,279
Speaker 2: look maybe he could be a future Buffalo Bill. But yeah,

950
00:50:56,440 --> 00:50:58,239
Speaker 2: at five nine and a half, he's built low to

951
00:50:58,280 --> 00:51:01,680
Speaker 2: the ground. I think he's got elite footwork and is

952
00:51:01,719 --> 00:51:06,440
Speaker 2: a strong running back, breaking tackles and finding yards after contact.

953
00:51:06,440 --> 00:51:09,239
Speaker 2: That's something you want on an NFL roster. He had

954
00:51:09,320 --> 00:51:12,879
Speaker 2: great stats for twenty three hundred all purpose yards last

955
00:51:12,880 --> 00:51:15,680
Speaker 2: season and tied for sixth then FBS with a school

956
00:51:15,719 --> 00:51:19,880
Speaker 2: record twenty one rushing touchdowns. So talk about productive, that

957
00:51:20,000 --> 00:51:21,840
Speaker 2: is what he was. We're gonna take a break, but

958
00:51:21,880 --> 00:51:24,399
Speaker 2: when we return. NFL analysts from the thirty third team,

959
00:51:24,480 --> 00:51:28,080
Speaker 2: Arcus Mosher is joining us to get into the NFL Draft,

960
00:51:28,400 --> 00:51:30,800
Speaker 2: where he thinks the Bills should go at number thirty

961
00:51:30,840 --> 00:51:33,440
Speaker 2: and beyond. Don't go anywhere here on One Bill's Live

962
00:51:33,440 --> 00:52:04,920
Speaker 2: were presented by Collect Health on Buffalo Bills Radio.

963
00:52:19,719 --> 00:52:24,640
Speaker 3: One Bill's Live presented by called Lida Health. What's Up?

964
00:52:24,680 --> 00:52:28,080
Speaker 2: Everybody? Welcome into our number two of One Bill's Live

965
00:52:28,080 --> 00:52:31,759
Speaker 2: by Maddi Glab joined by Bill's Wall of Famer Steve Tasker.

966
00:52:32,160 --> 00:52:35,680
Speaker 2: The NFL Draft is just a few days away. We

967
00:52:35,760 --> 00:52:38,960
Speaker 2: have officially made it to Draft Week that kicks off

968
00:52:39,000 --> 00:52:43,759
Speaker 2: on Thursday night in Green Bay. Amazing. That's gonna be

969
00:52:44,080 --> 00:52:47,440
Speaker 2: in Wisconsin. I'm excited to see the entire setup that

970
00:52:47,440 --> 00:52:49,719
Speaker 2: they're gonna have going on because it's at Lambeau at

971
00:52:49,760 --> 00:52:52,920
Speaker 2: the stadium, so a little bit different than drafts in

972
00:52:53,040 --> 00:52:56,520
Speaker 2: previous years where you see it in the city. I'm

973
00:52:56,560 --> 00:52:58,799
Speaker 2: excited to see what it looks like because you know,

974
00:52:59,520 --> 00:53:01,759
Speaker 2: hopes are that Buffalo gets in one of these in

975
00:53:01,840 --> 00:53:05,120
Speaker 2: the coming years. With that brand bank in news stadium

976
00:53:05,160 --> 00:53:06,600
Speaker 2: going up across it, It's gonna happen.

977
00:53:06,640 --> 00:53:09,080
Speaker 3: It's gotta happen. Come on, it's gotta happen. Gotta happen.

978
00:53:09,160 --> 00:53:10,040
Speaker 2: People love Buffalo.

979
00:53:10,080 --> 00:53:11,160
Speaker 3: You can't go without.

980
00:53:11,239 --> 00:53:13,280
Speaker 2: I mean, if Green BayCon do it, that's.

981
00:53:13,160 --> 00:53:15,480
Speaker 3: Exactly right, That's exactly right.

982
00:53:15,880 --> 00:53:19,120
Speaker 2: All right. In this hour of the show, we are

983
00:53:19,520 --> 00:53:22,799
Speaker 2: sticking with draft talk because we've got NFL analysts from

984
00:53:22,840 --> 00:53:26,680
Speaker 2: the thirty third team, Marcus Mosher joining us right now. Hey, Marcus,

985
00:53:26,920 --> 00:53:29,000
Speaker 2: excited to have you on with us today as we

986
00:53:29,040 --> 00:53:31,680
Speaker 2: are just days away from the NFL Draft.

987
00:53:32,640 --> 00:53:34,480
Speaker 8: Thanks for having me on. This is always my favorite

988
00:53:34,480 --> 00:53:36,680
Speaker 8: time of the year. I can't sleep. I'm excited. It's

989
00:53:36,719 --> 00:53:38,960
Speaker 8: like a little kid waiting for Christmas Day.

990
00:53:39,000 --> 00:53:40,120
Speaker 9: It doesn't get any better than this.

991
00:53:40,160 --> 00:53:41,600
Speaker 3: Well, we're gonna ask you a bunch about what you

992
00:53:41,600 --> 00:53:43,399
Speaker 3: think the Bills are gonna do. And obviously the mock

993
00:53:43,480 --> 00:53:46,239
Speaker 3: draft industry is in full swing. But I gotta ask

994
00:53:46,239 --> 00:53:49,040
Speaker 3: you too, in the big picture, how do you think

995
00:53:49,080 --> 00:53:50,960
Speaker 3: the top of this draft is gonna fall? Do you

996
00:53:51,000 --> 00:53:55,080
Speaker 3: think they'll be movement? Because we always kind of see

997
00:53:55,239 --> 00:53:59,200
Speaker 3: movement at the top of the board, usually it's quarterback driven.

998
00:53:59,760 --> 00:54:01,560
Speaker 3: But how do you see this falling in the top

999
00:54:01,600 --> 00:54:03,480
Speaker 3: five ten picks of this draft? Is it going to

1000
00:54:03,560 --> 00:54:05,800
Speaker 3: be as is? Or do you think we'll see something?

1001
00:54:06,800 --> 00:54:09,359
Speaker 8: So last year we had quarterbacks go what one, two,

1002
00:54:09,360 --> 00:54:11,200
Speaker 8: and three, and then we had a bunch of other

1003
00:54:11,280 --> 00:54:16,560
Speaker 8: quarterbacks go eight, ten, eleven, and twelve. Usually in drafts

1004
00:54:16,600 --> 00:54:18,520
Speaker 8: that have a lot of quarterbacks, we don't see a

1005
00:54:18,560 --> 00:54:20,880
Speaker 8: lot of movement and it makes for a not so

1006
00:54:21,040 --> 00:54:23,680
Speaker 8: fun top ten, top twelve. That's not gonna be the

1007
00:54:23,719 --> 00:54:26,279
Speaker 8: case this year. I would be surprised if we get

1008
00:54:26,320 --> 00:54:30,200
Speaker 8: two quarterbacks even inside the top fifteen or so picks.

1009
00:54:30,520 --> 00:54:33,160
Speaker 8: So I think we're gonna get a ton of wild picks.

1010
00:54:33,560 --> 00:54:35,480
Speaker 8: I'm sure we're gonna get some trades, We're gonna get

1011
00:54:35,480 --> 00:54:38,160
Speaker 8: some movement. I'm expecting this to be one of the

1012
00:54:38,239 --> 00:54:41,440
Speaker 8: more crazy first rounds that we've had in several years.

1013
00:54:41,640 --> 00:54:45,000
Speaker 2: Okay, speaking of quarterbacks going in the top fifteen, you'd

1014
00:54:45,040 --> 00:54:49,080
Speaker 2: be surprised if possibly two go you had an article

1015
00:54:49,120 --> 00:54:52,520
Speaker 2: come out called fact or fiction kind of talking about

1016
00:54:52,560 --> 00:54:55,280
Speaker 2: these rumors that are out there surrounding the NFL Draft.

1017
00:54:55,400 --> 00:54:57,360
Speaker 2: One place that a lot of us have been talking

1018
00:54:57,400 --> 00:54:59,759
Speaker 2: about over the past couple of weeks because they've been

1019
00:54:59,760 --> 00:55:01,800
Speaker 2: in the the news is the Giants with the third

1020
00:55:01,840 --> 00:55:05,560
Speaker 2: overall pick. They're holding these private workouts with three different

1021
00:55:05,600 --> 00:55:09,880
Speaker 2: quarterbacks or Sanders, Jalen Milroe, Tyler Schuck. Where do you

1022
00:55:10,000 --> 00:55:12,520
Speaker 2: believe the Giants go at number three?

1023
00:55:13,840 --> 00:55:14,920
Speaker 9: I think they like.

1024
00:55:14,960 --> 00:55:17,799
Speaker 8: A couple of the quarterbacks of this class, but not

1025
00:55:17,920 --> 00:55:20,440
Speaker 8: at three. And that's where the rub is coming, right, Like,

1026
00:55:21,040 --> 00:55:23,239
Speaker 8: if you don't like these quarterbacks enough to draft them

1027
00:55:23,280 --> 00:55:26,120
Speaker 8: at three, are you gonna like them enough to trade

1028
00:55:26,160 --> 00:55:27,560
Speaker 8: back hip into the first round?

1029
00:55:27,719 --> 00:55:31,280
Speaker 9: Probably not. I think the best player.

1030
00:55:30,960 --> 00:55:33,520
Speaker 8: That's going to be available for the Giants is Abdual Carter,

1031
00:55:34,080 --> 00:55:37,200
Speaker 8: the edge rusher from Penn State. I think he's a

1032
00:55:37,239 --> 00:55:40,720
Speaker 8: fantastic prospect. He was great down the stretch for Penn State.

1033
00:55:41,040 --> 00:55:43,840
Speaker 8: The production is off the charts, but this is a

1034
00:55:43,880 --> 00:55:46,320
Speaker 8: team that spent the number five pick on an edge rusher.

1035
00:55:46,360 --> 00:55:49,200
Speaker 8: A couple of years ago. They traded for Brian Burns.

1036
00:55:49,320 --> 00:55:53,120
Speaker 8: Last offseason, they paid Chauncey Golston big money in free agency.

1037
00:55:53,840 --> 00:55:55,799
Speaker 8: Edge rusher is one of the spots in the team

1038
00:55:55,840 --> 00:56:00,000
Speaker 8: where they're actually set. But because there's nobody else talent

1039
00:56:00,239 --> 00:56:03,279
Speaker 8: wise available at that third spot, they're probably gonna be

1040
00:56:03,360 --> 00:56:06,280
Speaker 8: forced into picking one there. And I think that's gonna

1041
00:56:06,320 --> 00:56:09,360
Speaker 8: continue to make some of these quarterbacks fall down the draft.

1042
00:56:09,600 --> 00:56:14,279
Speaker 3: And so what surprises, if any, are there gonna be?

1043
00:56:14,480 --> 00:56:17,439
Speaker 3: I mean, you're you know, there's gonna be some wide picks.

1044
00:56:17,440 --> 00:56:19,319
Speaker 3: And the further down the board you get, the more

1045
00:56:19,360 --> 00:56:22,960
Speaker 3: wide ranging the evaluations are, and the likes and dislikes

1046
00:56:23,280 --> 00:56:27,160
Speaker 3: become a bigger spectrum. What surprises do you see?

1047
00:56:27,880 --> 00:56:29,480
Speaker 8: Yeah, I mean I'm looking at a team like New

1048
00:56:29,480 --> 00:56:32,560
Speaker 8: England sitting at number four. You're gonna have the top

1049
00:56:32,640 --> 00:56:35,720
Speaker 8: quarterback off the board in cam Ward Travis Hunter, Abdul

1050
00:56:35,760 --> 00:56:39,080
Speaker 8: Carter likely going two and three. And that's where we've

1051
00:56:39,120 --> 00:56:42,400
Speaker 8: seen Will Campbell, the offensive tackle from LSU, mocked the

1052
00:56:42,440 --> 00:56:45,839
Speaker 8: most frequently. I wouldn't be surprised if New England goes

1053
00:56:45,880 --> 00:56:47,880
Speaker 8: in a different direction and they look at someone like

1054
00:56:48,400 --> 00:56:51,680
Speaker 8: Ashton gent the running back from Boise State. I know

1055
00:56:51,719 --> 00:56:54,759
Speaker 8: it's a running back, it's not the biggest positional value,

1056
00:56:55,200 --> 00:56:57,440
Speaker 8: but he just might be the best player available, and

1057
00:56:57,480 --> 00:56:59,839
Speaker 8: they take him at four and try to figure out

1058
00:56:59,880 --> 00:57:01,480
Speaker 8: the offensive line later on.

1059
00:57:02,000 --> 00:57:04,080
Speaker 9: I think picks five or four, five.

1060
00:57:03,880 --> 00:57:07,080
Speaker 8: And six, between the Patriots, the Jaguars, and the Raiders,

1061
00:57:07,480 --> 00:57:09,560
Speaker 8: those are our three spots where we could have some

1062
00:57:09,560 --> 00:57:13,440
Speaker 8: big wild cards, potentially running backs going early. Maybe we

1063
00:57:13,480 --> 00:57:16,000
Speaker 8: see a couple of corners go in those spots that

1064
00:57:16,040 --> 00:57:18,920
Speaker 8: we didn't anticipate. So those three picks I think are

1065
00:57:18,920 --> 00:57:20,440
Speaker 8: going to shake up the entire draft.

1066
00:57:20,840 --> 00:57:23,720
Speaker 2: That was gonna be my next question. The talk surrounding

1067
00:57:23,760 --> 00:57:26,760
Speaker 2: Ashton Genty and where he's going to go are definitely

1068
00:57:26,840 --> 00:57:30,200
Speaker 2: heating up just days away from the NFL Draft. How

1069
00:57:30,280 --> 00:57:33,000
Speaker 2: far does a player like that last? Is he going

1070
00:57:33,080 --> 00:57:36,480
Speaker 2: to be? Is there no way is it gonna be

1071
00:57:36,520 --> 00:57:39,080
Speaker 2: Ashton Genty goes at number six or goes earlier than that,

1072
00:57:39,240 --> 00:57:40,400
Speaker 2: or is that what you're thinking.

1073
00:57:41,360 --> 00:57:44,120
Speaker 8: I think the floor here is ten for the Bears,

1074
00:57:44,200 --> 00:57:47,320
Speaker 8: and the Bears would love to add Genty to their offense.

1075
00:57:47,920 --> 00:57:50,000
Speaker 8: But I think everybody else knows that, right, and so

1076
00:57:50,080 --> 00:57:52,480
Speaker 8: that could make it where we have teams trying to

1077
00:57:52,560 --> 00:57:54,680
Speaker 8: jump up ahead of the Bears to go get them.

1078
00:57:55,160 --> 00:57:56,720
Speaker 9: The Raiders need a running back.

1079
00:57:56,760 --> 00:57:59,280
Speaker 8: We know Pete Carroll isn't afraid of drafting and running

1080
00:57:59,280 --> 00:58:01,800
Speaker 8: back in the round one on Jacksonville. That's kind of

1081
00:58:01,800 --> 00:58:03,720
Speaker 8: been the rumor today is that they're open to taking

1082
00:58:03,760 --> 00:58:07,600
Speaker 8: gent at pick number five. I have a hard time

1083
00:58:07,680 --> 00:58:10,880
Speaker 8: seeing him being available to the Jets at seven now,

1084
00:58:10,880 --> 00:58:13,240
Speaker 8: whether it's one of those teams that's currently sitting inside

1085
00:58:13,280 --> 00:58:16,040
Speaker 8: the top six picking him or somebody else outside of

1086
00:58:16,080 --> 00:58:18,520
Speaker 8: the top ten. But I do think Gens is gonna

1087
00:58:18,560 --> 00:58:19,960
Speaker 8: go very early in the stress.

1088
00:58:20,000 --> 00:58:23,160
Speaker 3: So you think this because I'm telling you, like guys

1089
00:58:23,160 --> 00:58:26,440
Speaker 3: like mel Kiper, their heads will pop if somebody trades

1090
00:58:26,560 --> 00:58:29,320
Speaker 3: up inside the top ten of a draft to grab

1091
00:58:29,320 --> 00:58:32,280
Speaker 3: a running back because of the positional value, right, I mean,

1092
00:58:32,520 --> 00:58:38,160
Speaker 3: because I mean that would be unbelievable, because this is

1093
00:58:38,160 --> 00:58:40,160
Speaker 3: is this kind of like is this a Saquon Barkley

1094
00:58:40,200 --> 00:58:41,800
Speaker 3: type of prospect we're talking about?

1095
00:58:43,040 --> 00:58:43,800
Speaker 9: I don't think so.

1096
00:58:43,840 --> 00:58:45,760
Speaker 8: And just to be clear, Steve, like I would not

1097
00:58:45,840 --> 00:58:47,600
Speaker 8: be doing this, like I think this is the best

1098
00:58:47,680 --> 00:58:50,760
Speaker 8: running back draft we've seen in maybe a decade, like

1099
00:58:50,800 --> 00:58:54,400
Speaker 8: you're gonna get some really quality players in rounds two, three, four, five.

1100
00:58:55,520 --> 00:58:57,919
Speaker 8: But I do wonder if people are looking at gent

1101
00:58:58,160 --> 00:59:00,920
Speaker 8: compared to maybe some of the other non elite prospects

1102
00:59:00,920 --> 00:59:03,840
Speaker 8: in this class, and if you're weighing Genty compared to

1103
00:59:03,880 --> 00:59:07,520
Speaker 8: ted Taro McMillan, the wide receiver from Arizona, or Will Campbell.

1104
00:59:08,240 --> 00:59:10,880
Speaker 8: Maybe you just have a monster grade on Genty and

1105
00:59:10,960 --> 00:59:13,200
Speaker 8: you draft him and you figure out the rest later.

1106
00:59:14,600 --> 00:59:15,720
Speaker 9: I would be hard pressed to.

1107
00:59:15,720 --> 00:59:17,520
Speaker 8: Draft the running back that high. I would be I

1108
00:59:17,760 --> 00:59:20,360
Speaker 8: would never trade up for one.

1109
00:59:20,520 --> 00:59:23,240
Speaker 9: But teams do weird things every single year during the draft.

1110
00:59:24,320 --> 00:59:28,000
Speaker 2: Speaking of running back and how deep it is this

1111
00:59:28,120 --> 00:59:30,760
Speaker 2: year in the draft, put on your GM hat for

1112
00:59:30,840 --> 00:59:34,080
Speaker 2: the Buffalo Bills. If you were the Bills, would you

1113
00:59:34,160 --> 00:59:37,760
Speaker 2: consider taking a running back at some point in this draft,

1114
00:59:37,800 --> 00:59:40,320
Speaker 2: knowing what you know about who's on the roster right

1115
00:59:40,360 --> 00:59:45,720
Speaker 2: now and not knowing the status of James Cook right now. Yes,

1116
00:59:45,760 --> 00:59:47,440
Speaker 2: he's going to be on this team this year, but

1117
00:59:47,560 --> 00:59:51,160
Speaker 2: beyond that, not sure if they'll get a deal done.

1118
00:59:51,320 --> 00:59:53,200
Speaker 2: I think a lot of us hope it will happen,

1119
00:59:53,720 --> 00:59:56,400
Speaker 2: but that's not something that's one hundred percent certain. You

1120
00:59:56,440 --> 00:59:59,840
Speaker 2: also have a Ray Davis as well, and a Ti Johnson.

1121
01:00:00,240 --> 01:00:03,000
Speaker 2: Where would you go if you were Brandon Bean and

1122
01:00:03,600 --> 01:00:05,440
Speaker 2: would running back be on your board somewhere?

1123
01:00:06,640 --> 01:00:06,760
Speaker 3: Oh?

1124
01:00:06,760 --> 01:00:08,760
Speaker 8: Of course, this is a really good running back class.

1125
01:00:09,080 --> 01:00:11,120
Speaker 8: But I don't think you need to do it early.

1126
01:00:11,280 --> 01:00:13,480
Speaker 8: Like the Bills obviously have the first round pick, they

1127
01:00:13,520 --> 01:00:15,680
Speaker 8: have two second round picks. I don't think you need

1128
01:00:15,720 --> 01:00:18,080
Speaker 8: to spend a running back at that spot. But when

1129
01:00:18,080 --> 01:00:21,240
Speaker 8: we get into late Day two, early day three, there's

1130
01:00:21,280 --> 01:00:23,040
Speaker 8: just a good chance that running backs are going to

1131
01:00:23,080 --> 01:00:25,240
Speaker 8: be the top players on the board, and maybe you

1132
01:00:25,320 --> 01:00:27,600
Speaker 8: get to the fourth round and you have a two

1133
01:00:27,760 --> 01:00:31,040
Speaker 8: round grade player available better than Ray Davis who they

1134
01:00:31,080 --> 01:00:36,120
Speaker 8: selected a year ago on Day three. Don't be opposed

1135
01:00:36,120 --> 01:00:38,760
Speaker 8: to drafting really good players if they are available at

1136
01:00:38,800 --> 01:00:42,920
Speaker 8: the right spots. You can always add somebody to this backfield.

1137
01:00:43,000 --> 01:00:46,280
Speaker 8: Teams are using running back by committee approaches all across

1138
01:00:46,320 --> 01:00:49,160
Speaker 8: the NFL, But I don't think this is a spot

1139
01:00:49,200 --> 01:00:51,880
Speaker 8: where Buffalo feels like they have to spend a top

1140
01:00:51,880 --> 01:00:54,560
Speaker 8: one hundred pick. I would be floored if that's what

1141
01:00:54,560 --> 01:00:55,400
Speaker 8: they ultimately did.

1142
01:00:55,640 --> 01:00:59,440
Speaker 3: So people, we have Bills fans who you know We

1143
01:00:59,520 --> 01:01:02,840
Speaker 3: focus on Buffalo all three hundred and sixty five days

1144
01:01:02,880 --> 01:01:04,760
Speaker 3: a year, and we get a lot of calls from

1145
01:01:04,800 --> 01:01:07,240
Speaker 3: on our show about, hey, why doesn't Buffalo move take

1146
01:01:07,320 --> 01:01:10,600
Speaker 3: some of their like five picks after one thirty two

1147
01:01:10,600 --> 01:01:14,560
Speaker 3: and beyond they got five or six picks package those

1148
01:01:14,680 --> 01:01:18,480
Speaker 3: move up, And I get it, and they could. And

1149
01:01:18,560 --> 01:01:20,320
Speaker 3: you look at other teams, and one of the teams

1150
01:01:20,320 --> 01:01:22,960
Speaker 3: that one of the slots that Bills fans are targeting

1151
01:01:23,040 --> 01:01:25,960
Speaker 3: is like Minnesota at number twenty four, moving up six

1152
01:01:26,000 --> 01:01:29,840
Speaker 3: spots because Minnesota's only got four picks in the entire draft.

1153
01:01:30,080 --> 01:01:32,480
Speaker 3: So what are your thoughts about a team like Buffalo

1154
01:01:32,520 --> 01:01:34,600
Speaker 3: with ten picks, a lot of which are in the

1155
01:01:34,640 --> 01:01:38,080
Speaker 3: fifth round and beyond and moving up and taking one

1156
01:01:38,120 --> 01:01:40,200
Speaker 3: of their even package in a second round or whatever

1157
01:01:40,360 --> 01:01:43,720
Speaker 3: moving up that many slots? What are the what are

1158
01:01:43,720 --> 01:01:46,480
Speaker 3: the like what's the likelihood of that with a team

1159
01:01:46,640 --> 01:01:48,760
Speaker 3: like Minnesota who only has four picks and might be

1160
01:01:48,800 --> 01:01:50,680
Speaker 3: looking to expand their rookie class.

1161
01:01:51,760 --> 01:01:54,280
Speaker 8: The good news for Buffalo if they decided to trade up,

1162
01:01:54,280 --> 01:01:57,040
Speaker 8: there's gonna be a litany of teams that want to

1163
01:01:57,080 --> 01:01:59,400
Speaker 8: move back in the first round. And you mentioned Minnesota.

1164
01:01:59,400 --> 01:02:01,800
Speaker 8: I think that's a good target. I'll give you another one.

1165
01:02:01,800 --> 01:02:05,200
Speaker 8: What about Pittsburgh drafting at twenty one. Pittsburgh doesn't have

1166
01:02:05,280 --> 01:02:08,000
Speaker 8: a second round pick because of the DK Metcalf trade.

1167
01:02:08,160 --> 01:02:08,720
Speaker 3: I think they.

1168
01:02:08,640 --> 01:02:11,360
Speaker 8: Would love to slide back a couple spots and maybe

1169
01:02:11,480 --> 01:02:14,480
Speaker 8: draft a quarterback, or maybe they draft the defensive tackle.

1170
01:02:15,160 --> 01:02:18,400
Speaker 8: If Buffalo decides there's a player worth trading up for,

1171
01:02:19,080 --> 01:02:21,720
Speaker 8: I think there's gonna be endless amounts of opportunities for

1172
01:02:21,760 --> 01:02:24,040
Speaker 8: them to go up and get that player. The next

1173
01:02:24,160 --> 01:02:27,360
Speaker 8: question is who are those guys? Because if you're trading up,

1174
01:02:27,480 --> 01:02:29,920
Speaker 8: let's say, in decide of the top twenty five picks,

1175
01:02:29,960 --> 01:02:32,440
Speaker 8: or maybe even side the top twenty, you better be

1176
01:02:32,480 --> 01:02:34,960
Speaker 8: getting a guy that you have a top twelve grade

1177
01:02:34,960 --> 01:02:37,240
Speaker 8: on because that's that's a lot of draft capital. If

1178
01:02:37,240 --> 01:02:39,160
Speaker 8: you're giving up a first and a second round pick,

1179
01:02:39,440 --> 01:02:41,960
Speaker 8: you know, and potentially two starters to go get one player,

1180
01:02:42,320 --> 01:02:44,040
Speaker 8: it'd better be a guy that you think can be

1181
01:02:44,040 --> 01:02:45,760
Speaker 8: a difference maker from day one.

1182
01:02:46,520 --> 01:02:48,720
Speaker 9: And I do think they have some options available to them.

1183
01:02:49,000 --> 01:02:50,320
Speaker 3: Yeah, and I was going to ask you that was

1184
01:02:50,360 --> 01:02:55,120
Speaker 3: my next question. Now, the Bills were thinking defense, defense, defense, defense,

1185
01:02:55,200 --> 01:02:59,919
Speaker 3: defensive line, defensive end, edge, defensive tackle, safety and core

1186
01:03:00,600 --> 01:03:04,280
Speaker 3: corners are kind of a hot position group right now,

1187
01:03:04,400 --> 01:03:09,040
Speaker 3: but also defensive tackling and edge. But safety has been

1188
01:03:09,080 --> 01:03:11,720
Speaker 3: thrown into that mix as well. You know, Malachi Starks

1189
01:03:11,760 --> 01:03:15,080
Speaker 3: and Uman Worri some guys who really seem like they

1190
01:03:15,120 --> 01:03:17,720
Speaker 3: may be really good pros for a really long time

1191
01:03:17,760 --> 01:03:23,480
Speaker 3: at a really high level. So what if you're Buffalo,

1192
01:03:23,520 --> 01:03:27,440
Speaker 3: what position would that be? I mean, you got a

1193
01:03:27,440 --> 01:03:29,160
Speaker 3: ton of defensive a lignemen who are going to be

1194
01:03:29,160 --> 01:03:31,720
Speaker 3: available at one oh nine for crying out loud, let

1195
01:03:31,720 --> 01:03:36,040
Speaker 3: alone twenty four or twenty one. What are your thoughts

1196
01:03:36,080 --> 01:03:36,840
Speaker 3: on which position?

1197
01:03:38,320 --> 01:03:40,479
Speaker 9: I think you nail it. I think it's defensive line.

1198
01:03:40,520 --> 01:03:43,439
Speaker 8: We'll call it tackles and pass rushers and defensive back.

1199
01:03:43,480 --> 01:03:46,479
Speaker 8: I think those are the two positions Buffalo could really

1200
01:03:46,520 --> 01:03:49,600
Speaker 8: add an impact player. At the same time, like, I

1201
01:03:49,640 --> 01:03:51,960
Speaker 8: love Malachai Starks, He's one of my favorite players in

1202
01:03:52,000 --> 01:03:55,000
Speaker 8: the straft. You shouldn't really trade up for a safety.

1203
01:03:55,080 --> 01:03:56,960
Speaker 8: You shouldn't give up a first in a second to

1204
01:03:56,960 --> 01:04:00,480
Speaker 8: go give a safety, especially with how good the safety classes.

1205
01:04:00,600 --> 01:04:04,400
Speaker 8: So I think if you're going up that far, I

1206
01:04:04,440 --> 01:04:07,360
Speaker 8: think you're probably trying to get you know, like a

1207
01:04:07,440 --> 01:04:10,080
Speaker 8: Mike Green for Marshall, who a lot of people have

1208
01:04:10,160 --> 01:04:12,920
Speaker 8: as a top fifteen pick, or you're going on the

1209
01:04:13,000 --> 01:04:15,680
Speaker 8: other side of the ball and maybe looking to grab

1210
01:04:15,760 --> 01:04:19,120
Speaker 8: a dynamic playmaker to add to their wide receiver core.

1211
01:04:19,680 --> 01:04:22,240
Speaker 8: Maybe that's a Matthew Golden, who ran a four to

1212
01:04:22,240 --> 01:04:25,040
Speaker 8: two nine forty yard dash at the NFL Combine coming

1213
01:04:25,080 --> 01:04:28,560
Speaker 8: out of Texas. He's somebody that could play outside, so

1214
01:04:28,640 --> 01:04:31,080
Speaker 8: obviously he would fit with khalilsha Kiir, he'd fit with

1215
01:04:31,160 --> 01:04:33,760
Speaker 8: Keon Coleman. I think if you're trying to make a

1216
01:04:33,800 --> 01:04:37,120
Speaker 8: trade like that, that's probably the type of player you're targeting.

1217
01:04:37,720 --> 01:04:40,560
Speaker 8: But also I ultimately don't expect Buffalo to trade up.

1218
01:04:40,600 --> 01:04:42,360
Speaker 8: I think they're going to be smart just to sit back,

1219
01:04:42,880 --> 01:04:45,000
Speaker 8: let the board fall to them and just take the

1220
01:04:45,000 --> 01:04:48,640
Speaker 8: best players available, because I really think they need to improve,

1221
01:04:49,040 --> 01:04:52,120
Speaker 8: you know, players eleven to twenty on their depth chart,

1222
01:04:52,400 --> 01:04:54,240
Speaker 8: and I think this is the perfect draft to do that.

1223
01:04:54,840 --> 01:04:57,440
Speaker 2: In your latest mock draft, do you have the Bills

1224
01:04:57,560 --> 01:05:01,200
Speaker 2: choosing a cornerback out of old miss Amos at that

1225
01:05:01,280 --> 01:05:05,000
Speaker 2: thirtieth overall pick. Why is Amos a good fit for

1226
01:05:05,080 --> 01:05:07,600
Speaker 2: Buffalo at that spot in the draft?

1227
01:05:08,960 --> 01:05:09,600
Speaker 9: Yeah, First of all.

1228
01:05:09,600 --> 01:05:11,400
Speaker 8: Trey Amos is just one of my favorite players in

1229
01:05:11,400 --> 01:05:12,200
Speaker 8: the entire class.

1230
01:05:12,320 --> 01:05:14,480
Speaker 9: If you can see behind me, I've got Cowboy jerseys.

1231
01:05:14,880 --> 01:05:17,320
Speaker 8: I'm praying that he falls to the Cowboys at forty four,

1232
01:05:17,360 --> 01:05:19,840
Speaker 8: but he shouldn't because he's that good of a player.

1233
01:05:19,920 --> 01:05:24,440
Speaker 8: He's my second favorite cornerback in this draft, behind Will Johnson.

1234
01:05:24,480 --> 01:05:28,760
Speaker 8: I think he's got outstanding ball skills. He's physical, He's

1235
01:05:28,800 --> 01:05:31,360
Speaker 8: not a for you to play press coverage. He'll come up,

1236
01:05:31,400 --> 01:05:34,800
Speaker 8: he'll tackle. His powder recognition is some of the best

1237
01:05:34,840 --> 01:05:37,600
Speaker 8: in the class. I think he is a day one

1238
01:05:37,800 --> 01:05:42,600
Speaker 8: starting outside cornerback in the NFL with SEC experience playing

1239
01:05:42,600 --> 01:05:45,240
Speaker 8: at Alabama and Ole Miss, and you put him on

1240
01:05:45,240 --> 01:05:48,240
Speaker 8: a defense with Christian Benford, who can play on the outside,

1241
01:05:48,480 --> 01:05:52,280
Speaker 8: Tron Johnson. They're all pro slot corner and now we're

1242
01:05:52,320 --> 01:05:54,720
Speaker 8: talking about a secondary that can match up with the

1243
01:05:54,800 --> 01:05:56,320
Speaker 8: top teams in the AFC.

1244
01:05:56,960 --> 01:05:57,880
Speaker 9: If Amos is.

1245
01:05:57,800 --> 01:05:59,760
Speaker 8: There at pick thirty, I think that's like a run

1246
01:05:59,800 --> 01:06:02,400
Speaker 8: to the podium pick from Buffalo to Green Bay.

1247
01:06:02,480 --> 01:06:04,600
Speaker 9: It would be a home run for the Bills.

1248
01:06:04,840 --> 01:06:07,480
Speaker 3: And as you talk about him like that, it makes

1249
01:06:07,520 --> 01:06:09,040
Speaker 3: me feel like he is no shot. He's going to

1250
01:06:09,120 --> 01:06:09,600
Speaker 3: be there.

1251
01:06:10,960 --> 01:06:13,760
Speaker 9: Well The thing is, I don't think he's for everybody.

1252
01:06:13,800 --> 01:06:17,760
Speaker 8: He is a press manned cornerback, and not everybody loves

1253
01:06:17,760 --> 01:06:20,560
Speaker 8: that type of corner and he's not the most athletic

1254
01:06:20,640 --> 01:06:22,840
Speaker 8: cornerback in the world. And there's other corners in this

1255
01:06:22,920 --> 01:06:25,960
Speaker 8: class like John I Barron from Texas who have more

1256
01:06:26,000 --> 01:06:29,600
Speaker 8: ball production, or Maxwell Harriston from Kentucky who are in

1257
01:06:29,600 --> 01:06:32,800
Speaker 8: a four to eight. All of these teams value these

1258
01:06:32,840 --> 01:06:36,840
Speaker 8: cornerbacks differently. I just think Amos for Buffalo is the

1259
01:06:36,880 --> 01:06:38,400
Speaker 8: best possible fit in.

1260
01:06:38,440 --> 01:06:39,360
Speaker 9: Option there at thirty.

1261
01:06:39,520 --> 01:06:42,280
Speaker 2: All right, let's say Amos is not available there. What

1262
01:06:42,440 --> 01:06:45,760
Speaker 2: other players do you think could be available in that

1263
01:06:45,920 --> 01:06:50,560
Speaker 2: thirty range who makes sense with what Buffalo needs to

1264
01:06:50,560 --> 01:06:52,880
Speaker 2: add to their roster this offseason.

1265
01:06:53,640 --> 01:06:55,520
Speaker 9: Yeah, if it's not going to be a cornerback.

1266
01:06:55,600 --> 01:06:57,800
Speaker 8: I looked at Malachi Starks, who, again one of my

1267
01:06:57,840 --> 01:07:00,920
Speaker 8: favorite players in the draft, played just about everywhere in

1268
01:07:01,000 --> 01:07:03,400
Speaker 8: Georgia's defense. And by the way, if you don't draft

1269
01:07:03,440 --> 01:07:05,840
Speaker 8: him at thirty, Philadelphia is gonna draft him at thirty two,

1270
01:07:05,880 --> 01:07:06,320
Speaker 8: and we're all.

1271
01:07:06,320 --> 01:07:07,400
Speaker 9: Gonna be shaking our heads.

1272
01:07:07,640 --> 01:07:10,040
Speaker 8: How did Howie Roseman get another Georgia defender?

1273
01:07:10,520 --> 01:07:13,640
Speaker 2: Don't even put that out there, I know, so don't.

1274
01:07:13,520 --> 01:07:14,520
Speaker 9: Let that happen again.

1275
01:07:14,560 --> 01:07:16,560
Speaker 8: As a Cowboy fan, please do not let the Eagles

1276
01:07:16,560 --> 01:07:19,560
Speaker 8: get any more good players. I just think Starks and

1277
01:07:19,640 --> 01:07:23,360
Speaker 8: a Sean McDermott defense. He can play everywhere. He's incredibly smart.

1278
01:07:23,600 --> 01:07:26,520
Speaker 8: He was a three year starter at Georgia. We know

1279
01:07:26,680 --> 01:07:30,280
Speaker 8: how important the safeties are in this defense, and why

1280
01:07:30,320 --> 01:07:32,440
Speaker 8: not go get one of the safeties that has the

1281
01:07:32,480 --> 01:07:35,360
Speaker 8: best instincts that we've seen over the last couple of years.

1282
01:07:35,720 --> 01:07:38,040
Speaker 8: I know he's falling a little bit on these draft

1283
01:07:38,040 --> 01:07:40,400
Speaker 8: boards because he's not the biggest and he's not the

1284
01:07:40,440 --> 01:07:44,120
Speaker 8: most athletic, but he's just a darn good football player

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Speaker 8: that you want to have on your team when you

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Speaker 8: get into these big games.

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Speaker 3: So we've got so on the other side of this

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01:07:51,440 --> 01:07:55,520
Speaker 3: coin Bills fans, Like I said, it's defensive line, it's cornerback.

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01:07:56,800 --> 01:08:00,000
Speaker 3: They're also starting to get a sprinkling of wide rests

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01:08:00,000 --> 01:08:03,640
Speaker 3: receivers who may be available and one of those guys

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Speaker 3: that you just can't pass up. And I know you've

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Speaker 3: already got some guys you really like. And he extended

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01:08:08,400 --> 01:08:11,280
Speaker 3: Khalil Shakir and he just drafted key On Coleman last year.

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Speaker 3: But by golly, we got to keep up with the

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01:08:13,760 --> 01:08:16,240
Speaker 3: Kansas City Chiefs and we need somebody fast on the outside.

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Speaker 3: A guy who's just started been parachuting in is a

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01:08:20,000 --> 01:08:25,360
Speaker 3: guy named Luther Burden from Miszoo. Also Trey Harris the

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01:08:25,400 --> 01:08:27,680
Speaker 3: wide receiver as well. I mean, there's some of these

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01:08:27,680 --> 01:08:31,759
Speaker 3: wide receivers who just seem a little bit too shiny

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01:08:31,800 --> 01:08:33,960
Speaker 3: and new to pass up for Bills fans.

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Speaker 9: This is why I love this show.

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Speaker 8: You guys are just naming all of my favorite players,

1303
01:08:38,360 --> 01:08:40,080
Speaker 8: so I get to talk about the three guys that

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01:08:40,120 --> 01:08:43,599
Speaker 8: I love the most. Luther Burden is my favorite receiver

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01:08:43,640 --> 01:08:45,600
Speaker 8: in the class. I have him ranked ahead of Ted

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01:08:45,640 --> 01:08:47,920
Speaker 8: Tuo McMillan. I have him ranked ahead of Matthew Golden.

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01:08:48,479 --> 01:08:51,120
Speaker 8: This is a receiver who had twelve hundred yards in

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01:08:51,200 --> 01:08:54,679
Speaker 8: the SEC as a nineteen year old sophomore. There's only

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01:08:54,760 --> 01:08:57,559
Speaker 8: five other receivers in college football history to do that,

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Speaker 8: and that includes Jamar Chase Brown. It's pretty ridiculous what

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01:09:02,280 --> 01:09:05,679
Speaker 8: he did. I know the production dropped off in twenty

1312
01:09:05,720 --> 01:09:08,880
Speaker 8: twenty four, but the quarterback play was so awful that

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Speaker 8: it's hard to blame Luther Burden. But what I see

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01:09:11,840 --> 01:09:14,559
Speaker 8: from Burden is somebody who can play inside and outside,

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01:09:14,880 --> 01:09:18,280
Speaker 8: who gives you some big time plays after the catch.

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01:09:18,840 --> 01:09:22,800
Speaker 8: He reminds me of a more athletic version of Rashie Rice,

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01:09:23,040 --> 01:09:25,040
Speaker 8: a receiver we just talked about with the Chiefs.

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Speaker 9: You can play him.

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01:09:26,120 --> 01:09:29,760
Speaker 8: Everywhere, and I think playing him with Khalil Shakir, with

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Speaker 8: Josh Allen in this Joe Brady.

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Speaker 9: Offense, you can do a lot of things with him.

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01:09:35,400 --> 01:09:37,599
Speaker 8: I'm not sure why he's not considered a top twelve,

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01:09:37,640 --> 01:09:40,599
Speaker 8: top fifteen player in the class. He is for me, Buffalo,

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Speaker 8: if he's there at thirty, please pick Okay, Luther Burden

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01:09:45,200 --> 01:09:46,479
Speaker 8: and a Mecca Abuka.

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Speaker 2: Tell me the differences between the two and why you

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Speaker 2: like I would assume Burden over Abuka.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 8: I like Burden at least a full round more than

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Speaker 8: a Buka. Buka is a very solid route runner. He

1331
01:10:00,160 --> 01:10:03,000
Speaker 8: was productive in four years at Ohio State. He's their

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01:10:03,040 --> 01:10:06,880
Speaker 8: all time leading receiver. But the difference for me is

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01:10:06,960 --> 01:10:09,280
Speaker 8: what they can do after the catch. You can give

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01:10:09,320 --> 01:10:12,479
Speaker 8: a three yard four yard slant to Luther Burden and

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01:10:12,520 --> 01:10:13,559
Speaker 8: he could take it to the house.

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Speaker 9: He's got that.

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01:10:14,320 --> 01:10:17,639
Speaker 8: Kind of home run ability and he's not small he's

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01:10:17,680 --> 01:10:20,400
Speaker 8: six foot two hundred and six pounds. That is a

1339
01:10:20,400 --> 01:10:22,719
Speaker 8: player that could play on the outside as the next receiver,

1340
01:10:23,040 --> 01:10:25,639
Speaker 8: but also you feel good about him playing in the slot.

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01:10:26,160 --> 01:10:29,320
Speaker 8: I like Burden's ability to make plays after the catch.

1342
01:10:29,520 --> 01:10:32,280
Speaker 8: I think he's got a pretty rare trait and his

1343
01:10:32,360 --> 01:10:34,080
Speaker 8: ability to break tackles.

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01:10:33,680 --> 01:10:36,719
Speaker 9: And force defenders to just bounce off of him.

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01:10:37,120 --> 01:10:39,599
Speaker 8: I know the comp has been Deebo Samuel a lot

1346
01:10:39,600 --> 01:10:43,040
Speaker 8: because of that ability, but he's just a better receiver

1347
01:10:43,120 --> 01:10:45,320
Speaker 8: than Deebo Samuel ever was now.

1348
01:10:45,400 --> 01:10:47,400
Speaker 9: I think Samuel is a little bit bigger, maybe a

1349
01:10:47,400 --> 01:10:47,880
Speaker 9: little bit.

1350
01:10:47,800 --> 01:10:50,760
Speaker 8: More athletic, but as a pure receiver, Burden's better.

1351
01:10:51,360 --> 01:10:53,679
Speaker 2: All right, give us a preview. You said you got

1352
01:10:53,720 --> 01:10:56,519
Speaker 2: one more mock draft coming out. Do you know who

1353
01:10:56,600 --> 01:10:58,840
Speaker 2: you're gonna have Buffalo selecting at number thirty in that

1354
01:10:58,880 --> 01:11:01,000
Speaker 2: mock draft, We're.

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01:11:00,840 --> 01:11:02,960
Speaker 9: Gonna stay with the same tray amos I.

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01:11:02,960 --> 01:11:05,719
Speaker 8: If he's there at thirty, I think that's a player

1357
01:11:05,720 --> 01:11:07,920
Speaker 8: that just makes too much sense for the Bills to

1358
01:11:07,960 --> 01:11:11,720
Speaker 8: pass up. I don't love the cornerback depth in this class.

1359
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Speaker 8: I don't think Buffalo at the back endecond the second

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01:11:14,680 --> 01:11:16,800
Speaker 8: round with either of those picks are going to be

1361
01:11:16,840 --> 01:11:19,960
Speaker 8: able to get a starting quality cornerback. Get Amos in

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01:11:20,080 --> 01:11:22,519
Speaker 8: round one, figure out the rest of the needs. A

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01:11:22,680 --> 01:11:26,200
Speaker 8: defensive end, defensive tackle, wide receiver later Amos day one

1364
01:11:26,280 --> 01:11:27,680
Speaker 8: starter that you can't pass up on.

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01:11:27,960 --> 01:11:30,439
Speaker 2: All right, Marcus, thank you so much for joining us

1366
01:11:30,479 --> 01:11:31,800
Speaker 2: on the show today. We know you got a busy

1367
01:11:31,840 --> 01:11:34,240
Speaker 2: week ahead. Have fun with the draft man.

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01:11:35,240 --> 01:11:36,559
Speaker 9: Of course, thank you guys so much.

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01:11:36,640 --> 01:11:39,120
Speaker 2: All right. That was Marcus Mosher of the thirty third

1370
01:11:39,120 --> 01:11:43,240
Speaker 2: team in NFL Analyst. As everybody's getting ready to release

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01:11:43,280 --> 01:11:45,760
Speaker 2: their final mod drafts.

1372
01:11:45,840 --> 01:11:48,720
Speaker 3: Thursday's the deadline and they become obsolete on Friday, you know,

1373
01:11:48,840 --> 01:11:50,040
Speaker 3: I mean you look.

1374
01:11:49,880 --> 01:11:53,280
Speaker 2: Back and you're like, wow, that's what I love doing.

1375
01:11:53,360 --> 01:11:55,559
Speaker 2: And I know everybody puts a lot of time and

1376
01:11:55,600 --> 01:11:58,720
Speaker 2: effort into these mock drafts, and people doing them are

1377
01:11:59,240 --> 01:12:02,800
Speaker 2: very smart and educate and do their homework. But I

1378
01:12:02,920 --> 01:12:06,280
Speaker 2: love to look back on everybody that has gotten mocked

1379
01:12:06,280 --> 01:12:08,840
Speaker 2: to the Bills and figuring out, Okay, who was the

1380
01:12:08,880 --> 01:12:13,599
Speaker 2: first person to mock that guy correctly to Buffalo and

1381
01:12:13,680 --> 01:12:16,320
Speaker 2: who got it multiple times?

1382
01:12:16,360 --> 01:12:19,080
Speaker 3: Because sometimes if you get if they get five guys

1383
01:12:19,160 --> 01:12:21,720
Speaker 3: right in a mock draft, there, it's a great mock draft.

1384
01:12:21,840 --> 01:12:22,040
Speaker 7: Yeah.

1385
01:12:22,120 --> 01:12:25,439
Speaker 2: I was listening to on Move the Sticks, Daniel Jeremiah

1386
01:12:25,439 --> 01:12:27,800
Speaker 2: and Bucky Brooks's podcast this morning on my way to work,

1387
01:12:27,920 --> 01:12:30,560
Speaker 2: and it was Daniel Jeremiah's media call, and he was

1388
01:12:30,680 --> 01:12:33,360
Speaker 2: joking about that, saying, you know, you do this final

1389
01:12:33,400 --> 01:12:36,479
Speaker 2: mock draft and then the draft happens. You look back

1390
01:12:36,479 --> 01:12:39,400
Speaker 2: and you maybe get five to seven out of thirty two, right,

1391
01:12:39,439 --> 01:12:41,240
Speaker 2: and you go, well, what was the point of even

1392
01:12:41,280 --> 01:12:42,200
Speaker 2: doing that to begin with?

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01:12:42,520 --> 01:12:47,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's it's it's a cottage industry. I mean, we

1394
01:12:47,479 --> 01:12:50,759
Speaker 3: have you come on you over the over one hundred

1395
01:12:50,800 --> 01:12:55,680
Speaker 3: mock drafts. It's I can't I can't not look. I

1396
01:12:55,800 --> 01:12:58,960
Speaker 3: have to know what they think. I look at all

1397
01:12:59,040 --> 01:12:59,760
Speaker 3: of them.

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01:13:00,040 --> 01:13:00,400
Speaker 4: I look at it.

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01:13:00,439 --> 01:13:02,040
Speaker 3: I've got a list here today. I can give you

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01:13:02,080 --> 01:13:04,280
Speaker 3: a list of the guys that I just And of

1401
01:13:04,320 --> 01:13:06,800
Speaker 3: course Kenneth Grant is the one who's getting mocked to

1402
01:13:06,880 --> 01:13:11,200
Speaker 3: us all the time. Trey Amos, Trey Harris, Derek Harmon,

1403
01:13:12,040 --> 01:13:17,879
Speaker 3: h Luther Burden, Malachi Starks, Walter Nolan defensive tackle, Maxwell

1404
01:13:17,880 --> 01:13:21,519
Speaker 3: Harrison's the corner out of Kentucky Amika Igbuka. The guy

1405
01:13:21,560 --> 01:13:22,800
Speaker 3: you just asked about.

1406
01:13:24,439 --> 01:13:27,839
Speaker 2: Is Iraq Donovan Azeraku is Araku.

1407
01:13:28,360 --> 01:13:31,400
Speaker 3: All these guys are getting drafted, the Bills, Josh Farmer

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01:13:31,439 --> 01:13:34,519
Speaker 3: and Brayden Swinson, Jalen Lane. These are guys that are

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01:13:34,720 --> 01:13:36,600
Speaker 3: like the seven round mocks that we can get. I

1410
01:13:36,640 --> 01:13:40,760
Speaker 3: would love Josh so yeah, I gotta know.

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01:13:40,920 --> 01:13:43,720
Speaker 2: It's funny. The more we talk about it and the

1412
01:13:43,720 --> 01:13:46,840
Speaker 2: more we go through what could be available, the more

1413
01:13:46,920 --> 01:13:49,960
Speaker 2: I'm warming up to the idea of a wide receiver

1414
01:13:50,120 --> 01:13:53,240
Speaker 2: in the first round, which is two months ago. If

1415
01:13:53,280 --> 01:13:55,880
Speaker 2: you told me that I would, I would throw paper

1416
01:13:55,920 --> 01:13:57,559
Speaker 2: at the screen and say you're crazy.

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01:13:57,720 --> 01:13:57,960
Speaker 5: No.

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01:13:58,560 --> 01:14:01,000
Speaker 2: But now I'm like, maybe maybe.

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01:14:01,080 --> 01:14:04,160
Speaker 3: Would, Now that the word has it that Tray White

1420
01:14:04,240 --> 01:14:07,800
Speaker 3: might sign here, Okay, I can all listen to something

1421
01:14:07,800 --> 01:14:10,799
Speaker 3: else because there's gonna be enough defensive lineman defensive tackles

1422
01:14:10,880 --> 01:14:13,000
Speaker 3: later in this draft. They are gonna be quality guys

1423
01:14:13,600 --> 01:14:16,080
Speaker 3: that they can They're gonna come in, step in and contribute.

1424
01:14:16,720 --> 01:14:20,479
Speaker 3: You get a guy like this, you know Luther Burden.

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01:14:22,120 --> 01:14:23,360
Speaker 3: You watch his film.

1426
01:14:23,160 --> 01:14:25,640
Speaker 2: From my Alma Models.

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01:14:28,320 --> 01:14:30,920
Speaker 3: Luther Burden is a guy who's gonna be a really

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01:14:31,080 --> 01:14:35,000
Speaker 3: dangerous pro player, a guy who's like, Wow, that guy

1429
01:14:35,360 --> 01:14:38,280
Speaker 3: he can play, he can run with it. After the

1430
01:14:38,320 --> 01:14:41,719
Speaker 3: catch he gets open. He said it as a nineteen

1431
01:14:41,800 --> 01:14:43,839
Speaker 3: year old. He's got twelve hundred yards in the SEC

1432
01:14:44,040 --> 01:14:49,719
Speaker 3: a nineteen year old. That guy can go. So I'm yeah,

1433
01:14:49,880 --> 01:14:51,200
Speaker 3: I'll warm up to it.

1434
01:14:51,400 --> 01:14:54,799
Speaker 2: Special with the ball in his hands, can make plays,

1435
01:14:55,000 --> 01:14:59,080
Speaker 2: can do things, can break tackles, run after catch. That

1436
01:14:59,240 --> 01:15:02,760
Speaker 2: is what Luther is. Yards after catch are so important

1437
01:15:02,800 --> 01:15:05,640
Speaker 2: to NFL offense. Is it's something that Buffalo over the

1438
01:15:05,720 --> 01:15:08,479
Speaker 2: last three seasons has been chasing. And I think they

1439
01:15:08,600 --> 01:15:11,800
Speaker 2: finally got it this past season. Is they ranked high

1440
01:15:11,880 --> 01:15:14,519
Speaker 2: in yards after catch. A big part of that was

1441
01:15:14,600 --> 01:15:17,559
Speaker 2: Khalil Shakir and Kean Coleman being able to make something

1442
01:15:17,640 --> 01:15:19,920
Speaker 2: happen with the ball in their hands, being able to

1443
01:15:19,960 --> 01:15:22,920
Speaker 2: create that space and add another one to the roster.

1444
01:15:23,479 --> 01:15:26,439
Speaker 3: Yeah, sure, let's do it. And I'll say this too,

1445
01:15:28,800 --> 01:15:31,080
Speaker 3: this offense, there's nothing wrong with this offense to begin

1446
01:15:31,160 --> 01:15:35,599
Speaker 3: with at all, let alone at quarterback or offensive line.

1447
01:15:35,960 --> 01:15:38,960
Speaker 3: There's just nothing out there to poke holes in or

1448
01:15:39,000 --> 01:15:41,800
Speaker 3: too much. And I'll say it again. They scored more

1449
01:15:41,840 --> 01:15:44,400
Speaker 3: points in the regular season in playoffs and any team

1450
01:15:44,400 --> 01:15:48,600
Speaker 3: in the league, you can't keep them off the board.

1451
01:15:49,479 --> 01:15:52,920
Speaker 3: More of that. Fine, you keep scoring thirty games of

1452
01:15:52,960 --> 01:15:54,640
Speaker 3: forced teams keep up with it puts a lot of

1453
01:15:54,640 --> 01:15:56,640
Speaker 3: pressure on an offense on the other side of the

1454
01:15:56,760 --> 01:15:58,400
Speaker 3: on the other side of the ball, they put the

1455
01:15:58,400 --> 01:16:00,479
Speaker 3: ball at risk a lot more. And they do that.

1456
01:16:00,520 --> 01:16:04,639
Speaker 3: You got a defense that proves it. They churned out

1457
01:16:04,680 --> 01:16:08,360
Speaker 3: turnovers because the other team had to throw the football.

1458
01:16:08,400 --> 01:16:10,519
Speaker 3: They had to put the ball at risk to play

1459
01:16:10,560 --> 01:16:12,320
Speaker 3: against the Buffalo Bills, because they got to keep up

1460
01:16:12,320 --> 01:16:14,960
Speaker 3: with Josh and these guys you got got you know,

1461
01:16:15,040 --> 01:16:18,120
Speaker 3: Christian Benford and Terre Bernard. They're knocking the ball loose,

1462
01:16:19,000 --> 01:16:23,599
Speaker 3: you know, Taylor rapp Rousseau. They're they're knocking the ball

1463
01:16:23,640 --> 01:16:27,800
Speaker 3: loose because the other team has to put it out

1464
01:16:27,840 --> 01:16:32,240
Speaker 3: there to keep up. So it's not a bad recipe,

1465
01:16:32,320 --> 01:16:36,080
Speaker 3: worked really good this last year. But it's hard to

1466
01:16:36,160 --> 01:16:39,559
Speaker 3: count on turnovers as being a part of your big picture,

1467
01:16:39,600 --> 01:16:42,560
Speaker 3: you know. But I see, I see the logic of

1468
01:16:42,600 --> 01:16:43,320
Speaker 3: why it happened.

1469
01:16:43,680 --> 01:16:47,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, we are Google gaga over too many prospects at

1470
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Speaker 2: this point. Just stays away from the NFL Draft. Sure

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01:16:50,720 --> 01:16:53,400
Speaker 2: take take to five different guys. I'd be happy with

1472
01:16:53,400 --> 01:16:55,960
Speaker 2: with a bunch, and I think later in the week,

1473
01:16:56,160 --> 01:16:59,439
Speaker 2: maybe tomorrow, Wednesday, it'd be fun to run through some

1474
01:16:59,479 --> 01:17:01,200
Speaker 2: of these guys who could go in the second round

1475
01:17:01,240 --> 01:17:03,839
Speaker 2: to Buffalo, because I think there's a bunch of special

1476
01:17:03,920 --> 01:17:06,040
Speaker 2: names too that exist in the second round, and guys

1477
01:17:06,040 --> 01:17:11,120
Speaker 2: who I have watched that I've already gotten really excited about.

1478
01:17:11,160 --> 01:17:13,720
Speaker 2: Thinking maybe if the Bills take him in the second round,

1479
01:17:13,760 --> 01:17:16,680
Speaker 2: a defensive tackle or an edge rusher, or a cornerback

1480
01:17:17,040 --> 01:17:19,559
Speaker 2: or a wide receiver could make a lot of sense

1481
01:17:19,560 --> 01:17:21,439
Speaker 2: for Buffalo. So I think it's worth diving into that

1482
01:17:21,520 --> 01:17:23,560
Speaker 2: as well. But we're gonna take a break when we

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Speaker 2: return back to the phone lines here on One Bill's

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Speaker 2: Live or presented by Colidahealth on Buffalo Bills Radium. All Right,

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01:17:43,880 --> 01:17:46,400
Speaker 2: we're back here on One Bill's Live. We've got a

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01:17:46,560 --> 01:17:50,439
Speaker 2: topic for you today surrounding the NFL Draft. In your

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01:17:50,479 --> 01:17:54,439
Speaker 2: thoughts after the reported edition of cornerback Tredavius White, how

1488
01:17:54,439 --> 01:17:57,840
Speaker 2: does your Bills draft outlook change? And why we're going

1489
01:17:57,920 --> 01:18:00,519
Speaker 2: back to the phone lines to Carl and Nicoy who

1490
01:18:00,600 --> 01:18:02,000
Speaker 2: joins us Row, Hey, Carl.

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01:18:05,000 --> 01:18:07,479
Speaker 4: Hey, Maddie, can you hear me?

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01:18:07,720 --> 01:18:08,560
Speaker 3: Yeah, to hear you.

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01:18:10,320 --> 01:18:13,800
Speaker 4: I think that the Davias White Excuse me, I'm a

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01:18:13,800 --> 01:18:17,040
Speaker 4: little excited the Ravi's White coming is like an extra

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01:18:17,120 --> 01:18:20,519
Speaker 4: coach and a player. He could really set himself up

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01:18:20,560 --> 01:18:25,559
Speaker 4: good and he can help the other players. Definitely. As

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Speaker 4: far as the draft, I think the thirty to sixty

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Speaker 4: two should probably stay where they are. I think Brandon

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01:18:31,920 --> 01:18:35,040
Speaker 4: can get us one of everything then, But the sixty

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01:18:35,960 --> 01:18:38,960
Speaker 4: nine to seventy seven, I'd got to see a punk

1501
01:18:39,000 --> 01:18:41,880
Speaker 4: guy again. You know, we think I got away from

1502
01:18:42,000 --> 01:18:45,320
Speaker 4: us and he's gonna be something and it would be

1503
01:18:45,360 --> 01:18:47,080
Speaker 4: good for us. I mean, you know we need a

1504
01:18:47,120 --> 01:18:49,320
Speaker 4: punter that can boost the ball fairly. Well.

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01:18:50,640 --> 01:18:52,640
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'll say this though, the two guys that they

1506
01:18:52,640 --> 01:18:55,719
Speaker 3: have on the roster now are both drafted, so they.

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01:18:55,800 --> 01:18:58,840
Speaker 4: Yeah, but you know, new people. You know, it's a

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01:18:58,960 --> 01:19:02,040
Speaker 4: chance that not many guys of our ten picks really

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01:19:02,040 --> 01:19:04,519
Speaker 4: gonna make our team. And that's an area where we

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01:19:04,600 --> 01:19:06,440
Speaker 4: might be able to easily upgrade.

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01:19:07,560 --> 01:19:11,200
Speaker 3: Maybe, but you might have upgraded already. You just don't know.

1512
01:19:11,720 --> 01:19:15,759
Speaker 3: But yeah, I get you that. I'm with you staying

1513
01:19:15,800 --> 01:19:18,280
Speaker 3: put at thirty, fifty six and sixty two. You're gonna

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01:19:18,280 --> 01:19:21,200
Speaker 3: get some good players. They're gonna have a chance to contribute.

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01:19:21,240 --> 01:19:25,280
Speaker 3: I'm I'm perfectly happy to stay put and not move.

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01:19:25,920 --> 01:19:27,840
Speaker 3: I've said it since the beginning, though I don't think

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01:19:27,840 --> 01:19:30,400
Speaker 3: it's gonna happen. You're gonna I think the thirtieth pick

1518
01:19:30,439 --> 01:19:32,439
Speaker 3: is going to be somebody else's.

1519
01:19:32,720 --> 01:19:36,080
Speaker 4: I think there's sixty nine to seventy seven. We could

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01:19:36,120 --> 01:19:39,280
Speaker 4: get like one of them six foot four hundred pounders

1521
01:19:39,360 --> 01:19:41,559
Speaker 4: or you know that's a little exaggerated, but yeah, one

1522
01:19:41,600 --> 01:19:44,439
Speaker 4: of them big guys in the middle.

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01:19:44,560 --> 01:19:47,280
Speaker 3: Yeah, there's gonna be some guys certainly available. And you

1524
01:19:47,280 --> 01:19:49,360
Speaker 3: you go to any of the draft websites, and thanks

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01:19:49,360 --> 01:19:51,040
Speaker 3: for the call, Carl, but you go to any of

1526
01:19:51,080 --> 01:19:55,559
Speaker 3: the draft websites and you go just go down to

1527
01:19:55,680 --> 01:19:59,920
Speaker 3: the defensive line, go to the defensive tackle, and then

1528
01:20:00,120 --> 01:20:02,719
Speaker 3: all you gotta do is look at how how tall

1529
01:20:02,760 --> 01:20:05,960
Speaker 3: they are and how much they weigh. Derrek Carmon six

1530
01:20:06,120 --> 01:20:10,360
Speaker 3: five three ten, you got six five three twenty with

1531
01:20:10,400 --> 01:20:13,880
Speaker 3: Alfred Collins out of Texas, six six, three hundred and

1532
01:20:13,960 --> 01:20:17,600
Speaker 3: forty five pounds, Dion Walker out of Kentucky. You just

1533
01:20:17,600 --> 01:20:19,919
Speaker 3: go down to just pick him on height and wait alone,

1534
01:20:20,400 --> 01:20:22,120
Speaker 3: and then go look at the film and see if

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01:20:22,120 --> 01:20:26,040
Speaker 3: they're they have any shot at being a guy. And

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01:20:26,040 --> 01:20:28,360
Speaker 3: then he got a guy from Florida. The sixty five

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01:20:28,400 --> 01:20:31,640
Speaker 3: four hundred and sixty four pound to Shaun Watson. He

1538
01:20:31,640 --> 01:20:37,320
Speaker 3: can right wats Desmond Watson six six, three forty two

1539
01:20:37,720 --> 01:20:42,240
Speaker 3: Cam Jackson from Florida U six six, three hundred and

1540
01:20:42,240 --> 01:20:46,160
Speaker 3: twenty defensive tackle out of Georgia tech Zeke Biggers. He's

1541
01:20:46,200 --> 01:20:48,880
Speaker 3: gonna be available. You're right. And this this is like

1542
01:20:48,920 --> 01:20:51,920
Speaker 3: on the second page of the draft guide, right, so

1543
01:20:52,200 --> 01:20:56,200
Speaker 3: you there's gonna be those guys that you can get

1544
01:20:56,240 --> 01:21:00,360
Speaker 3: who are gonna look the part. There always are, but

1545
01:21:00,400 --> 01:21:02,479
Speaker 3: when you watch them on film, there are other guys

1546
01:21:02,479 --> 01:21:07,519
Speaker 3: who outshine them in their production, their character, their you know,

1547
01:21:07,640 --> 01:21:13,360
Speaker 3: their other measurables. Everything goes into the mix. And so

1548
01:21:13,439 --> 01:21:16,120
Speaker 3: we'll see. But you're right, Carl, I mean, you're gonna

1549
01:21:16,120 --> 01:21:17,639
Speaker 3: be able to get some really good guys even if

1550
01:21:17,640 --> 01:21:19,960
Speaker 3: you stay put at thirty fifty six and.

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01:21:19,920 --> 01:21:22,760
Speaker 2: Sixty two in terms of punters to Buffalo has two

1552
01:21:22,880 --> 01:21:25,960
Speaker 2: on the active roster right now, Jay Camarta and Brad Robbins.

1553
01:21:26,000 --> 01:21:28,240
Speaker 2: So they've set themselves up to be in a good

1554
01:21:28,320 --> 01:21:30,920
Speaker 2: spot right now as they have two guys who can

1555
01:21:31,080 --> 01:21:33,400
Speaker 2: battle it out for that position. But who knows, maybe

1556
01:21:33,439 --> 01:21:36,160
Speaker 2: they do decide to pick one up in the draft

1557
01:21:36,320 --> 01:21:40,080
Speaker 2: as well, and have three people kind of vying for

1558
01:21:40,160 --> 01:21:41,120
Speaker 2: that roster spot.

1559
01:21:41,720 --> 01:21:46,320
Speaker 3: And don't forget when they drafted matt Riza, he was

1560
01:21:46,600 --> 01:21:50,559
Speaker 3: he was like the fifth punter off the board. So

1561
01:21:50,600 --> 01:21:52,160
Speaker 3: we'll see options all right.

1562
01:21:52,200 --> 01:21:54,400
Speaker 2: Back to the phone lines to Kevin and Hamburg who

1563
01:21:54,439 --> 01:21:58,880
Speaker 2: joins us. Now, Hey, Kevin, thank you.

1564
01:21:58,840 --> 01:22:04,320
Speaker 1: We did. I still want the defense to be the

1565
01:22:04,320 --> 01:22:06,800
Speaker 1: main three options in the draft. I guess this sman

1566
01:22:06,960 --> 01:22:10,080
Speaker 1: said over and over defense defense, de bench were like

1567
01:22:10,120 --> 01:22:13,760
Speaker 1: to see location, location, location in real estate. I'd like

1568
01:22:13,840 --> 01:22:17,160
Speaker 1: to see the thirty be a defensive lineman, the first

1569
01:22:17,920 --> 01:22:21,599
Speaker 1: second be a cornerback, and then the third be a

1570
01:22:21,720 --> 01:22:25,000
Speaker 1: defensive vinement. Or if they found the cornerback at thirty,

1571
01:22:25,040 --> 01:22:27,000
Speaker 1: they couldn't pass up because he was as good as

1572
01:22:27,080 --> 01:22:29,200
Speaker 1: I don't know. I'll throw out a name in the past,

1573
01:22:29,400 --> 01:22:33,320
Speaker 1: like Darryl Green Speed, you know the safety bounding guys

1574
01:22:33,360 --> 01:22:35,880
Speaker 1: that this guy could be speedy like him. You remember

1575
01:22:35,880 --> 01:22:39,120
Speaker 1: how fast he was team he was like even as

1576
01:22:39,120 --> 01:22:40,719
Speaker 1: an older guy, he was still fast.

1577
01:22:41,000 --> 01:22:41,240
Speaker 3: Yep.

1578
01:22:41,920 --> 01:22:45,280
Speaker 1: Someone like that. Something like that, and then after that

1579
01:22:45,400 --> 01:22:49,360
Speaker 1: go on down to whatever whatever. But we need defense

1580
01:22:49,400 --> 01:22:52,639
Speaker 1: in those three because Josh keep playing in playoff games

1581
01:22:53,080 --> 01:22:55,639
Speaker 1: as good as Gold and the defense would let us down,

1582
01:22:55,760 --> 01:22:57,519
Speaker 1: especially against the team from Missouri.

1583
01:22:59,000 --> 01:23:00,759
Speaker 3: What do you think about the t White signing.

1584
01:23:01,720 --> 01:23:04,400
Speaker 1: I think it's good. We need a coach to teach them.

1585
01:23:04,920 --> 01:23:07,559
Speaker 1: We need a coach to teach them, just the way

1586
01:23:07,640 --> 01:23:09,800
Speaker 1: Alex Smith taught Bed for Mahomes, even though it's a

1587
01:23:09,800 --> 01:23:13,680
Speaker 1: different position. Yeah, yeah, we need a coach to teach them.

1588
01:23:13,680 --> 01:23:18,240
Speaker 1: They show him all the whether they're still wet behind ears, Okay.

1589
01:23:22,160 --> 01:23:25,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean defense, first few picks. It makes a

1590
01:23:25,160 --> 01:23:27,040
Speaker 2: lot of sense, is what we've seen in a lot

1591
01:23:27,080 --> 01:23:29,920
Speaker 2: of mock drafts, whether it's corner, whether it's defensive tackle.

1592
01:23:30,040 --> 01:23:32,439
Speaker 2: Going off the board first, we're gonna go to Chris

1593
01:23:32,479 --> 01:23:35,800
Speaker 2: and Hamburg. Hey, Chris, how you doing good?

1594
01:23:36,240 --> 01:23:37,599
Speaker 5: Doing good?

1595
01:23:38,000 --> 01:23:39,639
Speaker 2: What do you think for Buffalo in the draft?

1596
01:23:41,720 --> 01:23:43,639
Speaker 10: I don't know what I saw last year and at

1597
01:23:43,680 --> 01:23:47,320
Speaker 10: Super Bowl with Philadelphia just dominating them with their defensive

1598
01:23:47,360 --> 01:23:50,599
Speaker 10: line and just putting Mahomes on his butt all the time.

1599
01:23:51,120 --> 01:23:53,120
Speaker 10: I don't know. I just think we should build up

1600
01:23:53,160 --> 01:23:56,599
Speaker 10: that defensive line. I mean, there are a nemesis and

1601
01:23:56,640 --> 01:23:59,240
Speaker 10: they beat us all the time, and it wasn't by much.

1602
01:23:59,280 --> 01:24:01,800
Speaker 10: I know, you know, they always beat it by three

1603
01:24:01,800 --> 01:24:05,200
Speaker 10: points in the Championship game. But again, we need to

1604
01:24:05,320 --> 01:24:07,720
Speaker 10: get that defense, a line up man, we need to

1605
01:24:07,760 --> 01:24:11,040
Speaker 10: just but all kinds of press. That's just my opinion.

1606
01:24:11,080 --> 01:24:13,800
Speaker 10: Though I'm not a not a GM or anything like that,

1607
01:24:14,160 --> 01:24:17,479
Speaker 10: but again that's my opinion. Then that's all I got

1608
01:24:17,560 --> 01:24:19,720
Speaker 10: to say about that. And it's Steve. You really made

1609
01:24:19,760 --> 01:24:21,760
Speaker 10: me laugh for earlier when you said the clock was

1610
01:24:21,800 --> 01:24:22,920
Speaker 10: you were all frustrated with.

1611
01:24:22,880 --> 01:24:27,479
Speaker 3: That clock made me yeah, well, I appreciate it.

1612
01:24:28,040 --> 01:24:29,960
Speaker 10: Thanks again. I love you guys. We'll talk.

1613
01:24:30,760 --> 01:24:33,360
Speaker 3: Yeah, I get it. I'll say this though, And and

1614
01:24:33,400 --> 01:24:35,600
Speaker 3: it's it's common for everybody to be kind of a

1615
01:24:35,600 --> 01:24:38,479
Speaker 3: prisoner of the moment. You see the team that the

1616
01:24:38,520 --> 01:24:41,280
Speaker 3: Bills have been trying to beat for so many years,

1617
01:24:41,320 --> 01:24:43,200
Speaker 3: and they beat him in the regular season. We see that,

1618
01:24:43,280 --> 01:24:47,080
Speaker 3: but it's always just an absolute it's a barn burner

1619
01:24:47,120 --> 01:24:49,280
Speaker 3: of a game. Every time the Chiefs play the Bills,

1620
01:24:49,920 --> 01:24:51,960
Speaker 3: every end of everybody wants to see it. Everybody in

1621
01:24:52,000 --> 01:24:54,120
Speaker 3: the league, every fan of every team wants to see

1622
01:24:54,240 --> 01:24:57,040
Speaker 3: Mahomes against Allen. They want to see it because it

1623
01:24:57,120 --> 01:25:00,880
Speaker 3: is an absolute must watch TV. And then you see

1624
01:25:00,880 --> 01:25:03,679
Speaker 3: the Chiefs get to the super Bowl after another great

1625
01:25:03,760 --> 01:25:05,599
Speaker 3: barn burner of a game with the Bills. They get

1626
01:25:05,600 --> 01:25:08,679
Speaker 3: to the Super Bowl and they absolutely get waxed by Philly,

1627
01:25:09,479 --> 01:25:12,639
Speaker 3: and everybody's like, why don't we play like Philly? Why

1628
01:25:12,640 --> 01:25:14,800
Speaker 3: don't we do that? Well, here's the thing. It took

1629
01:25:14,800 --> 01:25:18,840
Speaker 3: Philadelphia three years to find to put that defensive line

1630
01:25:18,880 --> 01:25:20,800
Speaker 3: together the way they did. It took them three years,

1631
01:25:20,800 --> 01:25:24,559
Speaker 3: three drafts, a bunch of rookie contracts. It took them

1632
01:25:24,560 --> 01:25:26,760
Speaker 3: a long time to put that together. You can't do

1633
01:25:26,880 --> 01:25:31,280
Speaker 3: it just drafting thirtieth, fifty sixth, sixty second in the

1634
01:25:31,320 --> 01:25:35,800
Speaker 3: first two rounds. You can't do it. It's those guys

1635
01:25:35,800 --> 01:25:38,559
Speaker 3: aren't in this draft. You know, Jalen Carter's not in

1636
01:25:38,600 --> 01:25:42,280
Speaker 3: this draft. All these Yeah, so you've got to do

1637
01:25:42,360 --> 01:25:44,400
Speaker 3: it your way. And I keep going back to this

1638
01:25:44,560 --> 01:25:49,000
Speaker 3: same premise that I've been pounding over Brownie over the

1639
01:25:49,040 --> 01:25:52,599
Speaker 3: head with and now Maddie, you got to get as

1640
01:25:52,600 --> 01:25:54,519
Speaker 3: good of players as you can and do it your way.

1641
01:25:54,600 --> 01:25:57,759
Speaker 3: You got to beat them with your recipe. We've got Josh.

1642
01:25:57,920 --> 01:26:01,320
Speaker 3: Philly doesn't have Josh. They got Jalen Hurts. I'll take Josh.

1643
01:26:01,880 --> 01:26:04,720
Speaker 3: You know, you know, Philly's got a lot of other

1644
01:26:04,760 --> 01:26:06,200
Speaker 3: stuff that you kind of wish you had all those

1645
01:26:06,240 --> 01:26:08,840
Speaker 3: defensive linemen, those guys, I get it, But you got

1646
01:26:08,840 --> 01:26:11,599
Speaker 3: to beat them with your guys. You got to beat

1647
01:26:11,640 --> 01:26:14,439
Speaker 3: them the way you play best. And you get into

1648
01:26:14,479 --> 01:26:16,680
Speaker 3: training camp and with all with the ten picks the

1649
01:26:16,680 --> 01:26:18,840
Speaker 3: Bills have in this draft, if they indeed pick them,

1650
01:26:19,160 --> 01:26:22,160
Speaker 3: whether they pick at thirtieth or not, we'll see. You

1651
01:26:22,240 --> 01:26:23,760
Speaker 3: got to pick as good as players as you can

1652
01:26:23,840 --> 01:26:26,880
Speaker 3: possibly get, find out what you do better than anybody else,

1653
01:26:26,920 --> 01:26:27,600
Speaker 3: and exploit it.

1654
01:26:28,080 --> 01:26:30,519
Speaker 2: Here's something that just popped into my mind with Chris saying,

1655
01:26:31,160 --> 01:26:33,200
Speaker 2: I love the defensive line that the Eagles have, go

1656
01:26:33,320 --> 01:26:37,559
Speaker 2: defensive line in the draft. How many defensive linemen are

1657
01:26:37,560 --> 01:26:39,479
Speaker 2: the Bills going to draft in this year's draft. I

1658
01:26:39,560 --> 01:26:43,120
Speaker 2: just looked back. The highest number the Bills have drafted

1659
01:26:43,160 --> 01:26:47,040
Speaker 2: in terms of defensive linemen in a single draft since

1660
01:26:47,120 --> 01:26:51,639
Speaker 2: Brandon and Sean have been here is just two. Could

1661
01:26:51,720 --> 01:26:55,880
Speaker 2: we see Buffalo draft three defensive linemen in this year's draft?

1662
01:26:56,760 --> 01:27:01,040
Speaker 2: Two defensive tackles in an edge rusher? Is that possible?

1663
01:27:01,160 --> 01:27:02,160
Speaker 3: Let's set a record.

1664
01:27:02,320 --> 01:27:04,559
Speaker 2: I think it is with ten picks maybe, and.

1665
01:27:04,479 --> 01:27:07,800
Speaker 3: This draft, this draft lines up the Bills picks and

1666
01:27:07,880 --> 01:27:12,280
Speaker 3: the draft lineup for that, But I think I don't

1667
01:27:12,280 --> 01:27:14,000
Speaker 3: think that, like all three of them are going to

1668
01:27:14,040 --> 01:27:16,720
Speaker 3: be their first three picks, you know what I mean.

1669
01:27:17,640 --> 01:27:20,080
Speaker 3: But it might be fifty six sixty two and one

1670
01:27:20,080 --> 01:27:23,160
Speaker 3: oh nine. Totally fifty six sixty two and one thirty

1671
01:27:23,200 --> 01:27:25,280
Speaker 3: two or one sixty nine or one seventy. You know,

1672
01:27:25,320 --> 01:27:26,200
Speaker 3: one of those picks.

1673
01:27:26,320 --> 01:27:29,639
Speaker 2: Sure something to think about. They might something to think about,

1674
01:27:29,720 --> 01:27:30,439
Speaker 2: something upon.

1675
01:27:30,280 --> 01:27:33,679
Speaker 3: It because they might pick a defensive tackle it pick

1676
01:27:33,800 --> 01:27:34,759
Speaker 3: two oh six.

1677
01:27:35,680 --> 01:27:37,920
Speaker 2: I could see them picking two defensive tackles in this

1678
01:27:38,040 --> 01:27:40,679
Speaker 2: draft class. I could also see them picking an edge rusher.

1679
01:27:40,720 --> 01:27:42,880
Speaker 2: So to me, it would make sense. It wouldn't be

1680
01:27:43,160 --> 01:27:46,280
Speaker 2: crazy if Buffalo walks away from this draft with three

1681
01:27:46,360 --> 01:27:49,519
Speaker 2: new defensive linemen. But who knows, we.

1682
01:27:49,479 --> 01:27:50,360
Speaker 3: Could be totally wrong.

1683
01:27:50,840 --> 01:27:53,120
Speaker 2: Well, we'll have this draft. We only have one defensive

1684
01:27:53,120 --> 01:27:55,759
Speaker 2: lineman here we are, Maddie sounds crazy.

1685
01:27:55,880 --> 01:27:58,280
Speaker 3: Well, one defensive line they picked at one thirty two.

1686
01:27:59,160 --> 01:27:59,800
Speaker 3: That's what will happen.

1687
01:28:00,240 --> 01:28:02,000
Speaker 2: All right, we gotta take a break. When we return.

1688
01:28:02,040 --> 01:28:04,559
Speaker 2: Closing things up here on one Bill's Live. We're presented

1689
01:28:04,560 --> 01:28:20,920
Speaker 2: by Clide Health on Buffalo Bills Radio. All right, we're

1690
01:28:20,920 --> 01:28:22,920
Speaker 2: back here on one Bill's Live. I want to quickly

1691
01:28:22,960 --> 01:28:25,240
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1692
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1693
01:28:28,000 --> 01:28:31,280
Speaker 2: topic today after the reported edition of Tredevius White, how

1694
01:28:31,280 --> 01:28:34,960
Speaker 2: does your Bills draft outlook change and why? Connor Rutledge says,

1695
01:28:35,080 --> 01:28:37,320
Speaker 2: I don't think it changes the need for a young dB.

1696
01:28:37,600 --> 01:28:40,080
Speaker 2: I do think it raises the floor of the dB room.

1697
01:28:40,120 --> 01:28:42,720
Speaker 2: Really excited he is back, but still expect Buffalo to

1698
01:28:42,760 --> 01:28:46,000
Speaker 2: draft a dB in rounds one or two. Brian Horner says,

1699
01:28:46,040 --> 01:28:48,559
Speaker 2: it allows us to draft the best player available at

1700
01:28:48,600 --> 01:28:51,600
Speaker 2: positions we need, or gain assets by trading back a

1701
01:28:51,600 --> 01:28:54,240
Speaker 2: few spots if the value isn't there. Steve Noble says,

1702
01:28:54,400 --> 01:28:56,599
Speaker 2: it does not change the fact that we need and

1703
01:28:56,680 --> 01:28:59,599
Speaker 2: we'll draft a cornerback. This is a typical Bean move though,

1704
01:28:59,640 --> 01:29:02,240
Speaker 2: sign that is familiar with the defense, that can teach

1705
01:29:02,280 --> 01:29:06,080
Speaker 2: the younger players and play competently when needed.

1706
01:29:06,160 --> 01:29:07,559
Speaker 3: I think it's a good way to put it. Really

1707
01:29:07,640 --> 01:29:09,479
Speaker 3: raises the floor of the defensive back room. You aren't

1708
01:29:09,520 --> 01:29:12,000
Speaker 3: going to get a certain level of play from Trey

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Speaker 3: White if he's indeed called in. Even if he starts,

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Speaker 3: you're going to get a certain level of play that

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Speaker 3: is going to be acceptable and give you a chance.

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Speaker 3: And if you can go higher, go, if you can

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Speaker 3: draft a guy that can do it better athletically or whatever, go,

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Speaker 3: But it does really eliminate, like this finger quotes, sit

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Speaker 3: this positional emergency. We felt like we had at corner

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Speaker 3: and that's great.

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Speaker 2: That's where the team wants to be at. That's where

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Speaker 2: Brandon Bean wants to be days away from the NFL

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Speaker 2: Draft is sitting at number thirty. Whether they move or

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Speaker 2: move up or move back, taking the best player available.

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Speaker 2: I think they've set themselves up to do that. Thank

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Speaker 2: you for tuning into one Bill's Live today. We'll be

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Speaker 2: back tomorrow from one to three