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Speaker 1: Broadcasting live from the Abraham Lincoln Radio Studio, the George

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Speaker 1: Washington Broadcast Center, Jack Armstrong and Joe, Getty.

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Speaker 2: Arm Strong and Katty and he Armstrong and Eddy.

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Speaker 3: The cheapest super Bowl tickets are listening.

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Speaker 2: For five thousand dollars.

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Speaker 3: The cheapest, the most expensive ones are going for half

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Speaker 3: a million. Right now, fans are asking themselves should I

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Speaker 3: buy two Super Bowl tickets.

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Speaker 4: Or a dozen eggs.

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Speaker 2: I've never been to a super Bowl.

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Speaker 3: You'd think I would go during this run of the

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Speaker 3: Kansas City Chiefs, the team I have rooted for most

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Speaker 3: of my life, but I have not. I don't know

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Speaker 3: if I need that experience in my life. Actually, there's

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Speaker 3: part of me that would be curious to see it. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: just the whole process of it exactly. The game is

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Speaker 3: just as an observer, not as a foot No, no, no,

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Speaker 3: If I want to watch a game, that's probably not

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Speaker 3: the best way to do it. But yeah, it would be,

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Speaker 3: and it'd be fun to talk about on the radio

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Speaker 3: all the things you see and experience. But that's a

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Speaker 3: lot of money.

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Speaker 2: I guess.

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Speaker 3: Hotels are insane, and in addition to the ticket, all

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Speaker 3: that sort of stuff. So do you know who Selena

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Speaker 3: Gomez is She was a Disney star, then she was

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Speaker 3: in some of those kids shows on Nickelodeon, and she

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Speaker 3: became a grown up actress, singer, and now she's star

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Speaker 3: of a kind of a cult favorite, Only Murders in

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Speaker 3: the Building with Steve Martin and Martin Short, very good show,

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Speaker 3: very very entertaining program.

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Speaker 4: I enjoyed a great deal. It's just the right mood.

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Speaker 4: At the end of the day.

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Speaker 3: She is also a person of she's a latinix with the.

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Speaker 4: Next Wow, we can't be friends anymore go on?

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Speaker 3: And she posted this video. I don't know how easy

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Speaker 3: it's going to be to understand her. I saw it

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Speaker 3: with like caption because she's crying so hard. It's a

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Speaker 3: little hard to understand it.

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Speaker 5: Here you go, I just trying to say that I'm

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Speaker 5: so sorry home maybe people forgetting attacked the children.

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Speaker 2: I don't understand.

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Speaker 5: I'm so sorry.

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Speaker 2: I wish I could do something that he can't. I

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Speaker 2: don't know what to do. I'll try and be there.

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Speaker 3: This is all around Trump's evil, racist surrounding up of

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Speaker 3: children and adults and purging anyone who's not white in America.

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Speaker 3: As she sees it, I guess before.

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Speaker 4: The scenes of Trump's police dogs rounding up kindergarteners is

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Speaker 4: shocking to the concience. Oh, that's right, it's just adults,

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Speaker 4: criminals and fairly least areous ones being rounded up.

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Speaker 3: Before we ruin the beating up on Selena Gomez. Portion

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Speaker 3: of this, we'll get to Tom Holman, who's running this

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Speaker 3: whole operation for Trump, and him responding directly to who's

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Speaker 3: Selena Gomez?

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Speaker 2: Because she has.

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Speaker 3: Four million Twitter followers or TikTok followers or whatever. She's

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Speaker 3: got gazillions of people following her, so he wanted to respond, we.

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Speaker 6: Got quarterman Americans, death and fantinof across at olden border.

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Speaker 6: Where's the tears for them? I've met with hundreds of angels,

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Speaker 6: moms and dads who are separate if their children because

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Speaker 6: they buried them because they're kilbar alien. We got half

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Speaker 6: of man children or sex trafficked into this country but

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Speaker 6: separated from their family's put in the hands or criminal

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Speaker 6: cartels to be spoken in the country. This administration can't

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Speaker 6: find he worth three hundred thousand, where's the tears for them?

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Speaker 3: So well, there's two things to Selena Gomez specifically, and

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Speaker 3: I don't know really anything about her other than she

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Speaker 3: throughout her life, and she's bipolar. And that video was

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Speaker 3: taken down shortly after she posted it, though it went

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Speaker 3: viral and sped around really fast, So who knows where

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Speaker 3: she is with her mental illness on that?

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Speaker 4: And I have no need nor take any delight in

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Speaker 2: If she has mental hem.

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Speaker 3: Yes, we got mental illness in our family. And sometimes

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Speaker 3: people have really really rough days about all kinds of

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Speaker 3: different stuff, and you criticize it all you Want's got

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Speaker 3: nothing to do with what's going on in their brain.

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Speaker 3: But her point of view is echoed by many, many

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Speaker 4: Right, I am more than willing to take on the ideas,

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Speaker 4: and I think mister Holman's reply was absolutely appropriate leaving

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Speaker 4: poor little Selena Gomez out of this, I mean, who cares.

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Speaker 4: Just let's take on the ideas. He's absolutely right. The cost,

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Speaker 4: not only the material cost, but the human cost of

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Speaker 2: Horrific.

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Speaker 4: And as I pointed out yesterday and we'll point out

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Speaker 4: until this is done and it never will be, the

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Speaker 4: number of future victims that have been prevented by the

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Speaker 4: heaving of these few thousands, soon to be many thousand

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Speaker 4: criminals out of our country is a victory for humanity.

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Speaker 2: It is a wonderful, wonderful thing.

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Speaker 4: And to put your focus on the discomfort of some

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Speaker 4: of the people involved, once again, the Biden administration and

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Speaker 4: their adherence to their crazy ass policies have created an

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Speaker 4: enormous mess. And those of us in favor of cleaning

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Speaker 3: Broom is leaving Marx in my floor. Yeah, we're cleaning

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Speaker 3: up a horrible mess. Here's Sam Olsen with Chicago ICE.

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Speaker 7: It's kind of an arduous process, right. It's worn a

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Speaker 7: difficult situation here in Chicago because a lot of the

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Speaker 7: targets that we're looking at were previously arrested by local

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Speaker 7: or state authorities, and we've placed holds on many of

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Speaker 7: them and they were released from facility into the communities again,

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Speaker 7: so we have to go through, you know, spend a

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Speaker 7: lot of hours researching where they're living, and then actually

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Speaker 2: Yeah, what's the one.

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Speaker 3: Maybe this is the report that I saw on NBC

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Speaker 3: News I thought was really interesting. Yeah, go with fifty five,

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Speaker 3: Michael and I have a point to make.

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Speaker 8: President Trump's promise crackdown on the illegal immigration is underway.

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Speaker 8: When we arrive at a tire shop, twenty five year

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Speaker 8: old Christopher Latta is arrested outside. I says he has

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Speaker 8: a criminal record, including home invasion and aggravated battery. Agents

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Speaker 8: lead him away in handcuffs. He denies the charges against him,

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Speaker 8: facing possible deportation to Mexico. He also says he'd leave

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Speaker 8: behind a five year old daughter.

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Speaker 6: He does have serious charges and convictions, So.

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Speaker 2: I understand he has a daughter and get that's unfortunate,

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Speaker 2: But we still have a job to do and we

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Speaker 3: The thing that really grabbed me in that report actually

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Speaker 3: and how how much money it costs, how much manpower

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Speaker 3: of the ICE agents simply going to the jail and

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Speaker 3: the moment this guy's release, taking him into custody, safer

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Speaker 3: for them, safer for the illegal immigrants, safer for the family,

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Speaker 3: safer for the community, better for everyone. No, to signal

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Speaker 3: your perverse virtue, you turn.

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Speaker 4: Them loose and make us, the US track him down again.

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Speaker 4: It's idiotic. So here is, and I'm sorry. It's there's

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Speaker 4: a certain soft headedness among people who all they can

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Speaker 4: recognize as the quote unquote the unfortunate thing is the

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Speaker 4: latest thing that five year old girl's main problem is

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Speaker 4: her dad as a criminal. Her main problem isn't that

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Speaker 4: her dad's going to be deported. I mean, that's a problem,

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Speaker 4: and it's too bad. But why is that happening because

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Speaker 4: Trump is mean? No, because her dad's a blank in criminal.

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Speaker 3: So I heard somebody make this point the other day.

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Speaker 3: been Eli Lake on a podcast whatever. I thought this

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Speaker 3: then some of the things he said last week and

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Speaker 3: everything and it was the criticism from the anti Trump

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Speaker 3: crowd about how dark he is and his dark view

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Speaker 3: of America and the darkness around this and just so

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Speaker 3: the left, they don't understand. Yeah, it has seemed pretty

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Speaker 3: dark to a lot of us when we hear about

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Speaker 3: that's a pretty dark world we're living in where kids

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Speaker 3: world we're living in. Having to go to work and

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Speaker 3: fairly freaking dark. There's a lot of really dark things

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Speaker 4: Well, I would content myself with the knowledge that the

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Speaker 4: vast majority of America is with you, and it's only

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Speaker 4: intelligentsia who aren't. And I'm certainly hoping the wave drowns them.

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Speaker 3: Ideologically speaking, I just thought that was such a great point,

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Speaker 4: You gotta huddle your children close to you and cross

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's fairly dark. Didn't used to be that way.

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Speaker 3: That's kind of a dark existence. So yeah, if a

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, he's not wrong.

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Speaker 5: You are.

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Speaker 4: And what was the other thing. Oh, it's a great

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Speaker 4: example of the protected and the unprotected classes, the rich

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Speaker 4: intelligency on their college campuses. They've created their little worlds.

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Speaker 4: They're unaffected by this. But I do want to get

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Speaker 4: back to the psychology of not Selena Gomez in particular,

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Speaker 4: but that sort of video, the weeping online video, and.

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Speaker 3: Dissect that a little bit. I think you'll find it interesting.

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Speaker 3: Oh yeah, what a fascinating phenomenon. No wonder how long

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Speaker 5: Just trying to say that I'm so sorry, only be

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Speaker 4: Right, this is not about wrestling with Selena Gomez, who's

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Speaker 4: a troubled young woman. What about the phenomenon of the

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Speaker 2: Am I wrong?

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Speaker 3: Before you explain this that in the olden times, like

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Speaker 3: prior to five years ago, mostly crying emotionally was something

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Speaker 3: you tried to not do publicly, Like you, you really

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Speaker 3: tried to keep it together publicly, even funerals. Usually people

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Speaker 3: was I don't want to say embarrassing, but it was private. Yes, yeah,

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Speaker 2: But and uh.

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Speaker 4: There were a couple of comments to this that I

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Speaker 2: I haven't heard this yet.

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Speaker 3: This is a teacher talking about homework and how she

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Speaker 4: Here's the opposing thought though, is the reason they have

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Speaker 2: My kids whining.

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Speaker 3: just I know. He said, I'll make the one thing

440
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Speaker 3: I know how to make. I really it's to better.

441
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Speaker 3: It's a time thing.

442
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Speaker 4: Hey, make sure a harsh and derisive emails to mail

443
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Speaker 4: bag and I'm a strong and getting up.

444
00:23:44,359 --> 00:23:47,720
Speaker 3: And make sure they're harsh and derisive both, right, don't

445
00:23:47,720 --> 00:23:49,400
Speaker 3: waste start time. No, I'm not gonna read if it's

446
00:23:49,400 --> 00:23:52,720
Speaker 3: only harsh, but not derisive whin. On the No Wine

447
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Speaker 3: February Katie, you had a comment on that.

448
00:23:55,320 --> 00:23:56,920
Speaker 2: Oh I need, I want.

449
00:23:57,000 --> 00:23:58,960
Speaker 3: I was whining like a little you know what the

450
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Speaker 3: other day about having to go to the dentist.

451
00:24:00,640 --> 00:24:03,360
Speaker 2: I actually out loud, looked at Drew and went.

452
00:24:03,280 --> 00:24:04,560
Speaker 4: I don't want to go.

453
00:24:05,000 --> 00:24:05,960
Speaker 2: Well, that's.

454
00:24:09,600 --> 00:24:15,240
Speaker 3: Whining. Is one function of whining? Is not accepting reality?

455
00:24:15,359 --> 00:24:19,560
Speaker 2: I feel like isn't that a part of whining?

456
00:24:20,440 --> 00:24:22,320
Speaker 3: Because the example I was having in my head is

457
00:24:22,359 --> 00:24:24,639
Speaker 3: my regular whining, Like I get off the phone with a.

458
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Speaker 2: This stupid automated system at the pharmacy. I can't damn it.

459
00:24:28,960 --> 00:24:31,000
Speaker 2: They were trying to reorder.

460
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Speaker 3: It drunk and it Well, I feel like that's whining,

461
00:24:33,400 --> 00:24:35,879
Speaker 3: even though I'm Maybe it gets back to the thought

462
00:24:35,920 --> 00:24:37,160
Speaker 3: that you introduced on the show.

463
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Speaker 4: If a problem cannot be solved, it's not a problem.

464
00:24:39,920 --> 00:24:40,600
Speaker 2: It's a fact.

465
00:24:41,280 --> 00:24:42,879
Speaker 3: And the fact is I need to figure out a

466
00:24:42,920 --> 00:24:47,040
Speaker 3: way to deal with the stupid automated system that doesn't work. Yeah,

467
00:24:47,080 --> 00:24:49,800
Speaker 3: you yin, you yell whine.

468
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Speaker 4: Yeah he's a yiner. He's being a dentist's Katie, just

469
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Speaker 4: I don't know. Maybe there's a dentist listen who could

470
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Speaker 4: could advise me on this.

471
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Speaker 2: Is there a an actual law.

472
00:25:02,880 --> 00:25:08,240
Speaker 4: That says the hygienist has to talk every blanking second.

473
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Speaker 2: Must be you know?

474
00:25:10,040 --> 00:25:12,920
Speaker 4: I think so it's some people, Well go ahead.

475
00:25:12,680 --> 00:25:13,679
Speaker 2: It's funny would bring that up.

476
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Speaker 3: My son got his hair cut the other day and

477
00:25:15,960 --> 00:25:18,520
Speaker 3: he was he was so happy that he had made

478
00:25:18,720 --> 00:25:22,919
Speaker 3: the clear message to the person cutting his hair that

479
00:25:22,920 --> 00:25:24,439
Speaker 3: he's not one of those people that wants to have

480
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Speaker 3: a conversation. She's tried to start talking to him and

481
00:25:27,960 --> 00:25:29,480
Speaker 3: he and he was able to shut her down in

482
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Speaker 3: a polite way, and he basically said, I learned it

483
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Speaker 3: from you, dad.

484
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Speaker 4: It snay on the appy. That what he said, the

485
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Speaker 4: old cut cut.

486
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Speaker 3: Son with the with the hygienists, it's not just talking,

487
00:25:40,760 --> 00:25:43,240
Speaker 3: but they're asking questions and you have both of.

488
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Speaker 2: Your hands in my mouth. Yeah.

489
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Speaker 4: Is it because some people are nervous and freaked out

490
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Speaker 2: What is the person at the grocery store? Do it?

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Speaker 3: Got big plays on the don't, I don't. I don't

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496
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Speaker 3: I wonder what the dental hygiene is similar to the

523
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Speaker 3: people at the grocery store or lots of different walks

524
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Speaker 3: of life. They're told by their bosses to engage you conversation,

525
00:27:17,040 --> 00:27:19,280
Speaker 3: engage you in conversation. And I just wish we could

526
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Speaker 3: all have a where I'm wearing a lanyard right now

527
00:27:22,080 --> 00:27:23,639
Speaker 3: with the key card to get in the door. I

528
00:27:23,680 --> 00:27:25,760
Speaker 3: wish there was a lanyard I could wear, or I'd

529
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Speaker 3: get a tattoo on my head. I'm not one of

530
00:27:27,960 --> 00:27:29,680
Speaker 3: those people you need to talk to so they don't

531
00:27:29,680 --> 00:27:32,120
Speaker 3: get in trouble at work because I know they're being

532
00:27:32,119 --> 00:27:33,679
Speaker 3: told to engage me in conversation.

533
00:27:34,080 --> 00:27:34,720
Speaker 2: And there are you.

534
00:27:34,720 --> 00:27:37,000
Speaker 3: You always talk about you to your wife, how she

535
00:27:37,000 --> 00:27:40,439
Speaker 3: she enjoys it. Some people do, that's fine, but I

536
00:27:40,480 --> 00:27:42,520
Speaker 3: don't need you don't need to say to me, what

537
00:27:42,880 --> 00:27:43,960
Speaker 3: are your plans this evening?

538
00:27:44,200 --> 00:27:47,040
Speaker 2: I freaking hate that. And it's not your fault. It's me,

539
00:27:47,200 --> 00:27:49,200
Speaker 2: not you. Yeah, maybe there's a fear.

540
00:27:49,280 --> 00:27:52,280
Speaker 4: We can print out a card that says, in brief form,

541
00:27:52,359 --> 00:27:55,959
Speaker 4: I am more than capable of entertaining myself by thinking

542
00:27:56,000 --> 00:27:58,320
Speaker 4: about my life and issues and blah blah blah. I

543
00:27:58,359 --> 00:28:00,920
Speaker 4: don't need you telling me a mony Dane's story about

544
00:28:00,960 --> 00:28:04,920
Speaker 4: the day your cat got wet. A story that includes

545
00:28:05,040 --> 00:28:09,760
Speaker 4: no humor, nor punchline, nor insight. A story that merely exists,

546
00:28:09,760 --> 00:28:13,560
Speaker 4: apparently to pass the wind through your mouth.

547
00:28:15,520 --> 00:28:18,760
Speaker 3: Yes, Michael, just scrape my gums, don't flap your guns.

548
00:28:19,800 --> 00:28:21,119
Speaker 2: Yeah, I go, I go.

549
00:28:21,720 --> 00:28:24,520
Speaker 3: This story was merely to pass wind through your mouth.

550
00:28:25,080 --> 00:28:27,959
Speaker 3: Oh that's pretty funny. The Doomsday clock is the closest

551
00:28:28,000 --> 00:28:31,200
Speaker 3: it's been to midnight. Ever Does that mean anything or not?

552
00:28:31,600 --> 00:28:33,400
Speaker 3: But then there's a couple of world stories that fit

553
00:28:33,480 --> 00:28:39,800
Speaker 3: in with it. Stay tuned. A movement is growing to

554
00:28:39,840 --> 00:28:43,400
Speaker 3: put Donald Trump's face on Mount Rushmore.

555
00:28:47,840 --> 00:28:51,680
Speaker 4: Non matter. Meanwhile, there's another movement to put Nancy Pelosi's

556
00:28:51,720 --> 00:29:00,840
Speaker 4: face on eBay. The whole there's there's no movement to

557
00:29:00,880 --> 00:29:03,440
Speaker 4: put Trump's face on Mount Rushmow, or there shouldn't be

558
00:29:03,840 --> 00:29:06,280
Speaker 4: no there, Well, there's certainly no there's no chance of

559
00:29:06,280 --> 00:29:09,440
Speaker 4: that happening. Ever, nobody's going to be added or subtracted

560
00:29:09,640 --> 00:29:12,040
Speaker 4: at any point to mount rushmore. So can we stop

561
00:29:12,080 --> 00:29:14,600
Speaker 4: talking about it? Oh, you're trying to say you really

562
00:29:14,640 --> 00:29:16,680
Speaker 4: like Trump? Just say you really like Trump?

563
00:29:17,880 --> 00:29:22,040
Speaker 3: Right, So, a couple of things that would build up

564
00:29:22,040 --> 00:29:25,200
Speaker 3: to the stupid thing, A couple of real things to

565
00:29:25,200 --> 00:29:26,320
Speaker 3: build up to the stupid thing.

566
00:29:26,320 --> 00:29:28,160
Speaker 2: Here first, real thing.

567
00:29:28,600 --> 00:29:31,719
Speaker 3: I don't know if you know about China's undersea cable

568
00:29:31,760 --> 00:29:36,400
Speaker 3: sabotage where they cut that big cable from wherever to whatever.

569
00:29:36,560 --> 00:29:43,280
Speaker 3: But ain't cool. I was reading this from the dispatch.

570
00:29:43,320 --> 00:29:47,480
Speaker 3: What we're witnessing is a more brazen Beijing, now employing

571
00:29:47,600 --> 00:29:54,160
Speaker 3: full spectrum tactics behind vanishingly thin facades of opacity and deniability.

572
00:29:54,640 --> 00:29:58,520
Speaker 3: China seems much less concerned about reputational costs, calculating that

573
00:29:58,640 --> 00:30:02,720
Speaker 3: in any international rage will be limited and manageable. This

574
00:30:02,800 --> 00:30:06,840
Speaker 3: reflects both its strategy and its experience. China's experience has

575
00:30:06,840 --> 00:30:10,240
Speaker 3: been that international outrage is fleeting and of a minimal

576
00:30:10,320 --> 00:30:14,240
Speaker 3: real cost, while its strategy is to normalize increasingly aggressive

577
00:30:14,280 --> 00:30:17,240
Speaker 3: behavior so that lower levels of aggression become routine and

578
00:30:17,280 --> 00:30:20,880
Speaker 3: barely noted. We've seen really good analysis. I know we've

579
00:30:20,880 --> 00:30:23,400
Speaker 3: seen this aggression become root blah blah blah. We've seen

580
00:30:23,400 --> 00:30:25,720
Speaker 3: this play out across many domains, including in the air,

581
00:30:26,160 --> 00:30:30,120
Speaker 3: on or under the sea, in cyberspace, and through lawfare.

582
00:30:30,520 --> 00:30:33,920
Speaker 3: So accustom has the world become to it that incidents

583
00:30:33,920 --> 00:30:38,440
Speaker 3: that used to generate headlines now barely receive public mention.

584
00:30:39,520 --> 00:30:42,880
Speaker 2: That is interesting and clearly true.

585
00:30:43,880 --> 00:30:47,240
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, I've been shocked at some of the outrageous

586
00:30:47,320 --> 00:30:49,640
Speaker 4: China's quote unquote gotten away with. I mean not like

587
00:30:49,680 --> 00:30:52,000
Speaker 4: I have an answer to how to stop them exactly,

588
00:30:52,080 --> 00:30:56,200
Speaker 4: but yeah, they have abandoned the idea. All right, we

589
00:30:56,240 --> 00:30:59,320
Speaker 4: will use charm end force just for well, we're going

590
00:30:59,360 --> 00:31:01,320
Speaker 4: to use lots of lots of force, because it turns

591
00:31:01,360 --> 00:31:02,840
Speaker 4: out nobody does anything well.

592
00:31:02,760 --> 00:31:06,200
Speaker 3: In underwater communications cable. But between free countries that they

593
00:31:06,200 --> 00:31:08,480
Speaker 3: don't want to exist, they cut it. How about the

594
00:31:08,640 --> 00:31:13,400
Speaker 3: biggest hack cyber hack in world history that we have

595
00:31:13,640 --> 00:31:15,440
Speaker 3: all of our phones, as far as I still know,

596
00:31:15,720 --> 00:31:18,760
Speaker 3: are being read by the Chinese Communist Party because our

597
00:31:18,800 --> 00:31:21,040
Speaker 3: phone systems haven't figured out how to get the Chinese

598
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Speaker 3: out of it.

599
00:31:21,720 --> 00:31:25,200
Speaker 2: That doesn't even make the news. Really, it kind of

600
00:31:25,240 --> 00:31:26,280
Speaker 2: goes both ways. Though.

601
00:31:26,360 --> 00:31:29,040
Speaker 3: I was listening to NPR and they mentioned how we

602
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Speaker 3: had this big military exercise last year in the Philippines

603
00:31:31,840 --> 00:31:35,640
Speaker 3: and we put some of our very best rocket launchers

604
00:31:35,680 --> 00:31:39,400
Speaker 3: there temporarily as part of a military exercise. Philippines announced

605
00:31:39,600 --> 00:31:45,000
Speaker 3: they're staying and China's within range, so it works both ways.

606
00:31:45,040 --> 00:31:48,160
Speaker 3: That's the sort of thing that would have gotten headlines

607
00:31:48,200 --> 00:31:51,920
Speaker 3: maybe on our end before. But this ramping up to

608
00:31:53,320 --> 00:31:56,600
Speaker 3: god confrontation between the most two most powerful countries that

609
00:31:56,640 --> 00:31:59,920
Speaker 3: have ever existed, you think it'd get more attention anyway.

610
00:32:00,240 --> 00:32:02,320
Speaker 3: Moving on from that before I get to the probably

611
00:32:02,400 --> 00:32:06,280
Speaker 3: dumb thing. Trump has ordered the Pentagon to pursue an

612
00:32:06,720 --> 00:32:10,120
Speaker 3: US iron dome missile defense system. If you know anything

613
00:32:10,120 --> 00:32:13,720
Speaker 3: about Israel's, it's been pretty effective. The biggest difference being

614
00:32:13,720 --> 00:32:16,800
Speaker 3: that Israel is a tiny country and there's not actually

615
00:32:16,800 --> 00:32:20,240
Speaker 3: a dome. It's just a whole bunch of different missiles

616
00:32:21,920 --> 00:32:25,560
Speaker 3: put around the tiny country that can shoot down any

617
00:32:25,640 --> 00:32:29,080
Speaker 3: incoming missiles. That it's like having an iron dome over

618
00:32:29,120 --> 00:32:32,600
Speaker 3: your country to protect you, and it works very very well.

619
00:32:33,520 --> 00:32:35,640
Speaker 3: How do you do that for the United States of America?

620
00:32:35,920 --> 00:32:40,480
Speaker 3: Not exactly sure. It is going to be incredibly expensive,

621
00:32:41,360 --> 00:32:44,360
Speaker 3: but probably worth it and probably necessary, so This will

622
00:32:44,400 --> 00:32:50,360
Speaker 3: be quite the argument. The super pacifist types will talk about, how,

623
00:32:50,920 --> 00:32:53,720
Speaker 3: you know, we have people starving and we're spending money

624
00:32:53,760 --> 00:32:55,880
Speaker 3: on war or whatever bs.

625
00:32:55,720 --> 00:32:58,000
Speaker 4: And this is destabilizing. We'll hear that quite a bit.

626
00:32:58,640 --> 00:32:58,880
Speaker 5: Ah.

627
00:32:59,600 --> 00:33:04,280
Speaker 4: The issue of scaling the Iron Dome to a country

628
00:33:04,320 --> 00:33:08,200
Speaker 4: as vast as ours as well could be insurmountable. But

629
00:33:08,280 --> 00:33:10,640
Speaker 4: I like the at least I have the scientist to

630
00:33:10,920 --> 00:33:12,360
Speaker 4: put pencils of paper and see.

631
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Speaker 2: What you come up with.

632
00:33:12,880 --> 00:33:15,880
Speaker 3: Well, I have a feeling that it might just cover

633
00:33:16,200 --> 00:33:20,960
Speaker 3: you know, d C, New York, LA, crucial military sites

634
00:33:21,560 --> 00:33:24,880
Speaker 3: as opposed to where I'm from in Kansas, because there's

635
00:33:25,040 --> 00:33:29,360
Speaker 3: almost no chance that's going to be attacked. Right, Probably

636
00:33:29,360 --> 00:33:31,040
Speaker 3: be the way it works, But I thought that was interesting.

637
00:33:31,040 --> 00:33:32,840
Speaker 3: And then leading up to this and whether or not

638
00:33:32,960 --> 00:33:36,640
Speaker 3: you think this means anything or not, there's this group,

639
00:33:36,840 --> 00:33:41,560
Speaker 3: the Bulletin of Atomic Scientists, has moved its doomsday clock

640
00:33:41,760 --> 00:33:43,240
Speaker 3: forward for twenty twenty five.

641
00:33:43,400 --> 00:33:44,880
Speaker 2: They've got this great, big, giant clock.

642
00:33:44,920 --> 00:33:48,320
Speaker 3: It's been around since nineteen forty seven, right after the

643
00:33:48,360 --> 00:33:51,600
Speaker 3: Cold War began and the Soviet Union tested their nuclear weapons,

644
00:33:51,640 --> 00:33:54,040
Speaker 3: and it became clear that the United States and the

645
00:33:54,080 --> 00:33:57,320
Speaker 3: Soviet Union could destroy the world if they got into

646
00:33:57,400 --> 00:34:01,040
Speaker 3: a war. This group of a scientist that includes are

647
00:34:01,360 --> 00:34:05,959
Speaker 3: many Nobel Prize winners, a whole bunch. They make this

648
00:34:06,040 --> 00:34:08,280
Speaker 3: thing just to illustrate how close we are to blowing

649
00:34:08,320 --> 00:34:10,960
Speaker 3: up the world at various times over the years, and

650
00:34:11,000 --> 00:34:13,080
Speaker 3: it moves forward or backward. And during the eighties it

651
00:34:13,120 --> 00:34:15,520
Speaker 3: was getting closer and closer because Reagan was so belligerent.

652
00:34:15,840 --> 00:34:18,439
Speaker 3: Then after the Soviet Union fell, it moved way back

653
00:34:18,480 --> 00:34:20,480
Speaker 3: till ten to midnight or something like that, and then

654
00:34:20,520 --> 00:34:22,520
Speaker 3: it's gotten closer and back and forth. They just moved

655
00:34:22,520 --> 00:34:25,839
Speaker 3: it closer than it's ever been to midnight. The probability

656
00:34:25,880 --> 00:34:29,520
Speaker 3: of a global disaster. I think that's silly. I was

657
00:34:29,560 --> 00:34:32,839
Speaker 3: just watching the Bob Dylan movie on Saturday Night and

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Speaker 3: they feature the Cuban missile crisis in there and Bob

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Speaker 3: Dylan riding Masters of War. We are way closer to

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Speaker 3: blowing up the world during the Cuban missile crisis than

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Speaker 3: we are.

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Speaker 2: Now, I believe. But I'm not a Nobel winning scientist. Joe.

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Speaker 4: Now, some of you recall it during the nineties, the

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Speaker 4: doomsday clock was carried by flavor flave around his neck.

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Speaker 4: That was actually the doomsday clock.

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Speaker 3: The doomsday clock is now eighty nine seconds to midnight,

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Speaker 3: the closest has ever been to apocalypse. The terrifying news

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Speaker 3: was revealed Tuesday after deliberation by the organization's security Board

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Speaker 3: and border of sponsors, which includes nine Nobel Laureates. Every

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Speaker 3: second of delay increases the probability of global disasters, said

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Speaker 3: the guy in charge.

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Speaker 2: It's the final count down to lude.

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Speaker 3: Multiple global threats were considered, the proliferation of nuclear weapons

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Speaker 3: that's always been around, disruptive technology such as AI okay,

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Speaker 3: the Russia, Ukraine warm Israel, Homas war, the Israel has Bola, conflict, biothreats,

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Speaker 3: and what adds to it, what gets us closer to

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Speaker 3: midnight at evil?

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Speaker 2: Donald Trump, climate.

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Speaker 4: Change, Downtown shot up, stop it. They didn't mention Kim

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Speaker 4: Jong un getting all the arnery up there.

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Speaker 3: It might be in the list, but I don't think

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Speaker 3: we're in a more dangerous point than we've ever been.

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Speaker 3: We're a pretty dangerous point though, Oh yeah, no doubt

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Speaker 3: about ray.

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Speaker 2: I prefer the debt clock.

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Speaker 4: If I'm going to pick a apocalyptic clock, I would agree.

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Speaker 2: I would agree.

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Speaker 4: Armstrong and Getty

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