1 00:00:05,880 --> 00:00:15,280 Speaker 1: Crime Stories with Nancy Grace. Is there finally a break 2 00:00:15,320 --> 00:00:18,239 Speaker 1: in the case and the murders of two little girls, 3 00:00:18,720 --> 00:00:24,920 Speaker 1: Abigail and Liberty, commonly known as the Delphi murders. In 4 00:00:24,960 --> 00:00:29,800 Speaker 1: the last hours, seemingly there is a brand new wrinkle 5 00:00:30,040 --> 00:00:33,880 Speaker 1: in the evidence. Take a listen to Max Lewis Fox 6 00:00:33,960 --> 00:00:36,960 Speaker 1: fifty nine hour cut seven. I think it's another piece 7 00:00:37,000 --> 00:00:39,000 Speaker 1: of the puzzle. You know what I mean, I truly do. 8 00:00:39,200 --> 00:00:42,839 Speaker 1: Libby's grandfather, Mike Patty, says he's cautiously optimistic that the 9 00:00:42,880 --> 00:00:46,080 Speaker 1: information Indiana State Police are looking for maybe just what 10 00:00:46,200 --> 00:00:49,880 Speaker 1: investigators need to find his granddaughter's killer. Not very often 11 00:00:49,920 --> 00:00:52,159 Speaker 1: they please come out and ask for the public's help. Well, 12 00:00:52,159 --> 00:00:55,440 Speaker 1: here's a place where somebody can step up and really help. 13 00:00:55,640 --> 00:00:58,080 Speaker 1: I sp set on Monday. They're looking for people who 14 00:00:58,080 --> 00:01:01,600 Speaker 1: had contact with a social media going by Anthony Schotz. 15 00:01:01,920 --> 00:01:05,280 Speaker 1: Investigators have refused to say how or if it's connected 16 00:01:05,280 --> 00:01:08,280 Speaker 1: to the Delphi murders. However, we've learned twenty seven year 17 00:01:08,319 --> 00:01:11,720 Speaker 1: old Keegan Kline was arrested shortly after the twenty seventeen 18 00:01:11,800 --> 00:01:14,399 Speaker 1: murders in connection to the fake account. He has not 19 00:01:14,480 --> 00:01:18,240 Speaker 1: been officially linked to the case. Regardless, Mike Patty wants 20 00:01:18,240 --> 00:01:21,120 Speaker 1: people to focus on what the police are actually looking for. 21 00:01:21,480 --> 00:01:25,679 Speaker 1: They're still seeking information on anybody who's made contact with 22 00:01:25,720 --> 00:01:29,520 Speaker 1: that account, you know, through any social media platform. What 23 00:01:29,600 --> 00:01:33,039 Speaker 1: does social media have to do with the murders of 24 00:01:33,080 --> 00:01:36,800 Speaker 1: two beautiful little girls thirteen year old Abbey fourteen year 25 00:01:36,800 --> 00:01:41,759 Speaker 1: old Libby in a very rural area Delphi. What does 26 00:01:41,800 --> 00:01:44,720 Speaker 1: this guy have to do with anything social media? His 27 00:01:44,800 --> 00:01:48,400 Speaker 1: name Anthony Kline, twenty seven years old. Well, take listen 28 00:01:48,400 --> 00:01:51,920 Speaker 1: to our cut six our friend West mcquait, box fifty nine. 29 00:01:52,240 --> 00:01:55,760 Speaker 1: Her neighbor told me federal agents and local police visited 30 00:01:55,840 --> 00:01:58,840 Speaker 1: just a couple of weeks ago looking for information about 31 00:01:58,880 --> 00:02:02,160 Speaker 1: this man, twenty vin year old Keegan Anthony Klein and 32 00:02:02,400 --> 00:02:05,520 Speaker 1: his father and asked a few questions. The whole parking lots, 33 00:02:05,560 --> 00:02:08,959 Speaker 1: so there is at least twelve cars there unmarked vehicles there, 34 00:02:08,919 --> 00:02:12,280 Speaker 1: all trucks and SUVs. They went in his house and 35 00:02:12,320 --> 00:02:15,400 Speaker 1: they took his dog. According to this probable cause Affid David, 36 00:02:15,520 --> 00:02:18,840 Speaker 1: State police detectives and FBI agents first went looking for 37 00:02:18,919 --> 00:02:22,560 Speaker 1: the man who made the social media post titled Anthony Shots. 38 00:02:23,000 --> 00:02:26,440 Speaker 1: The post included fake photos, not of himself, and the 39 00:02:26,560 --> 00:02:29,760 Speaker 1: user allegedly ash young girls for nude photos and offered 40 00:02:29,800 --> 00:02:33,280 Speaker 1: to meet them. This happened just twelve days after Abigail 41 00:02:33,320 --> 00:02:36,480 Speaker 1: Williams and Liberty German were found dead in a wooded 42 00:02:36,520 --> 00:02:40,680 Speaker 1: area of Delphi in Carroll County in February of twenty seventeen. 43 00:02:40,960 --> 00:02:44,679 Speaker 1: Court records quote Klein is telling investigators that he created 44 00:02:44,720 --> 00:02:48,560 Speaker 1: the Anthony Shots profile, and quote he received approximately one 45 00:02:48,639 --> 00:02:53,160 Speaker 1: hundred sexual pictures from underage girls. The Delphi investigators have 46 00:02:53,280 --> 00:02:56,000 Speaker 1: not tied Klin to the murders of Abbey and Libby 47 00:02:56,400 --> 00:02:59,720 Speaker 1: and have not answered why they are releasing this information. Now, 48 00:03:00,120 --> 00:03:04,440 Speaker 1: I've looked at the photo that this guy, twenty seven 49 00:03:04,480 --> 00:03:08,720 Speaker 1: year old Anthony Klein purportedly put out there to catfish 50 00:03:09,080 --> 00:03:12,960 Speaker 1: little girls. That means you're pretending to be one thing 51 00:03:13,560 --> 00:03:17,079 Speaker 1: to get attention, or to get money, or to make contact, 52 00:03:17,400 --> 00:03:21,239 Speaker 1: and you're not that thing. This photo kind of looks 53 00:03:21,280 --> 00:03:24,960 Speaker 1: like a really young Justin Bieber. You kind of look 54 00:03:25,000 --> 00:03:28,200 Speaker 1: like a young Justin Bieber to you, like maybe thirteen 55 00:03:28,320 --> 00:03:33,680 Speaker 1: fourteen year old boy, when in fact he's anything but that. 56 00:03:33,880 --> 00:03:37,800 Speaker 1: He looks a complete opposite of that. How does this 57 00:03:38,440 --> 00:03:44,080 Speaker 1: have anything to do with Abby and Liberty. I, Nancy Grace, 58 00:03:44,160 --> 00:03:46,160 Speaker 1: this is Crime Stories. Thank you for being with us 59 00:03:46,200 --> 00:03:49,920 Speaker 1: here at Fox Nation in serious XM one eleven All 60 00:03:49,960 --> 00:03:52,400 Speaker 1: Star panel to make Sense of It Today. Wendy Patrick 61 00:03:52,600 --> 00:03:56,920 Speaker 1: joining us California prosecutor, author of Red Flags on Amazon. 62 00:03:57,240 --> 00:04:00,960 Speaker 1: Host of Today with doctor Wendy on kay C b Q. 63 00:04:01,560 --> 00:04:05,720 Speaker 1: Doctor Bethany Marshall, Psychoanis to the Stars, joining us out 64 00:04:05,720 --> 00:04:09,520 Speaker 1: of la at Doctor Bethany Marshall dot Com, Starva new 65 00:04:09,600 --> 00:04:14,960 Speaker 1: Netflix hit Bleeding Empire. Professor Forensics, Jacksonal State University, author 66 00:04:14,960 --> 00:04:18,400 Speaker 1: of Blood Beneath My Feet on Amazon and Starva hit 67 00:04:18,480 --> 00:04:22,440 Speaker 1: series Body Bags with Joe Scott Morgan on iHeart but 68 00:04:22,600 --> 00:04:26,600 Speaker 1: First two. Max Lewis, you just heard his voice reporting 69 00:04:26,600 --> 00:04:30,560 Speaker 1: a he's our friend from Fox fifty nine in Indianapolis. 70 00:04:30,600 --> 00:04:34,400 Speaker 1: Max Lewis, thank you for being with us. I'm I'm 71 00:04:34,440 --> 00:04:39,240 Speaker 1: impressed with the investigation, and I am struck with the 72 00:04:39,320 --> 00:04:44,800 Speaker 1: possibility that Abby and Liberty may have been catfished, so 73 00:04:44,839 --> 00:04:48,440 Speaker 1: to speak, by this guy, Anthony Klein. And no, he 74 00:04:48,480 --> 00:04:50,760 Speaker 1: has not been named a suspect or a poy person 75 00:04:50,800 --> 00:04:53,359 Speaker 1: of interest in this case. But I can tell you 76 00:04:53,440 --> 00:04:55,839 Speaker 1: this all right. You don't have to be a felony 77 00:04:55,880 --> 00:04:58,920 Speaker 1: prosecutor like I was to know, when you've got twelve 78 00:04:59,440 --> 00:05:03,800 Speaker 1: un mark cars full of fads and your front yard, 79 00:05:04,200 --> 00:05:07,400 Speaker 1: you got a problem, Max Lewis, I mean a big one. 80 00:05:07,640 --> 00:05:11,839 Speaker 1: So what's happening? Yeah? Absolutely, I mean, you know, obviously, 81 00:05:11,920 --> 00:05:15,600 Speaker 1: like you said, ESP has not tied him to their murders, 82 00:05:15,920 --> 00:05:18,320 Speaker 1: the murders of Abby and Libby, but just a couple 83 00:05:18,400 --> 00:05:21,840 Speaker 1: of weeks before they release this new information, you know, 84 00:05:21,920 --> 00:05:25,000 Speaker 1: like that neighbor that my colleague ress spoke with, you know, 85 00:05:25,000 --> 00:05:29,080 Speaker 1: they had cars, they had were carrying out you know, 86 00:05:29,120 --> 00:05:35,640 Speaker 1: sort of evidence they had is carrying out evidence, go ahead, Yeah, 87 00:05:35,680 --> 00:05:38,520 Speaker 1: they were. You know, they removed It wasn't a whole 88 00:05:38,520 --> 00:05:41,000 Speaker 1: lot of stuff, but they did remove some things from 89 00:05:41,000 --> 00:05:43,240 Speaker 1: the house, including his dog. And that was sort of 90 00:05:43,240 --> 00:05:47,400 Speaker 1: the really peculiar, peculiar thing. You know, what does that 91 00:05:47,480 --> 00:05:51,040 Speaker 1: have to do with any of this? Was maybe that 92 00:05:51,160 --> 00:05:55,520 Speaker 1: dog you know, on the trail that day. Again, he 93 00:05:55,560 --> 00:05:57,440 Speaker 1: has not been tied to this case. We don't know 94 00:05:57,839 --> 00:05:59,680 Speaker 1: what connection that dog is. But you know, that's some 95 00:05:59,720 --> 00:06:02,679 Speaker 1: of the speculation that we have been seeing online, been hearing, 96 00:06:03,520 --> 00:06:06,600 Speaker 1: and so it makes a lot of questions what connection 97 00:06:06,600 --> 00:06:09,960 Speaker 1: does that have to this case. Take us hour cut three. 98 00:06:10,200 --> 00:06:16,320 Speaker 1: This as our friends at NBC knees. On February twenty fifth, 99 00:06:16,320 --> 00:06:20,799 Speaker 1: twenty seventeen, Indiana State Police, the FBI, and Peru Police 100 00:06:21,080 --> 00:06:23,839 Speaker 1: served as search warrant at a house in Peru where 101 00:06:23,880 --> 00:06:27,440 Speaker 1: Klein was living with his father. That's eleven days after 102 00:06:27,480 --> 00:06:30,239 Speaker 1: the bodies of Abby Williams and Libby German were found 103 00:06:30,320 --> 00:06:35,159 Speaker 1: about thirty seven miles away in Delfi. Investigators confiscated a 104 00:06:35,200 --> 00:06:39,280 Speaker 1: half dozen phones and electronic devices. Klin admitted in court 105 00:06:39,360 --> 00:06:43,400 Speaker 1: documents to using the Anthony shots profile to communicate with 106 00:06:43,520 --> 00:06:47,440 Speaker 1: underage girls and ask for sexual images. So I guess 107 00:06:47,480 --> 00:06:51,960 Speaker 1: the thinking is to doctor Bethany Marshall that a young 108 00:06:52,040 --> 00:06:56,839 Speaker 1: girl thirteen fourteen year old girl like Liberty or Abbey 109 00:06:57,400 --> 00:07:00,599 Speaker 1: would be more likely to meet up with mine. That's 110 00:07:00,640 --> 00:07:04,760 Speaker 1: a Justin Bieber look alike, like a fourteen year old 111 00:07:04,800 --> 00:07:11,040 Speaker 1: Justin Bieber as this guy really looks like And I'm 112 00:07:11,080 --> 00:07:16,000 Speaker 1: certainly not judging anybody's appearance, but the twenty seven year 113 00:07:16,040 --> 00:07:19,760 Speaker 1: old Anthony Klein looks a lot different from Justin Bieber. Okay, 114 00:07:19,920 --> 00:07:22,840 Speaker 1: go ahead, you know this the picture that he used 115 00:07:22,840 --> 00:07:26,000 Speaker 1: to catfish. I'm I'm not laughing because it's really funny. 116 00:07:26,000 --> 00:07:29,800 Speaker 1: I think it's the contrast is so startling. This picture 117 00:07:29,840 --> 00:07:33,520 Speaker 1: as a young police officer, he has a tattoo on 118 00:07:33,520 --> 00:07:36,320 Speaker 1: one side of his chest. He looks like a young 119 00:07:36,600 --> 00:07:38,720 Speaker 1: maybe like a Dean Martin, like a part of the 120 00:07:38,800 --> 00:07:44,520 Speaker 1: rat pack. What are you talking about the kid picture? Yeah, 121 00:07:44,520 --> 00:07:48,480 Speaker 1: the kid picture, like like Dean Martin. What are you 122 00:07:48,520 --> 00:07:51,600 Speaker 1: saying it looks like Dean Martin? No, No, I'm saying 123 00:07:51,640 --> 00:07:54,600 Speaker 1: like a youthful, like like what what are these these 124 00:07:55,000 --> 00:07:57,480 Speaker 1: superstars would have looked like when they were thirteen or 125 00:07:57,480 --> 00:08:00,440 Speaker 1: fourteen years old? Okay, you made a bat bath, you 126 00:08:00,560 --> 00:08:03,840 Speaker 1: white man. I'd like to I'd like to HDC to 127 00:08:03,880 --> 00:08:09,520 Speaker 1: our friend. It's called twenty twenty one. Okay, nobody knows 128 00:08:09,560 --> 00:08:12,360 Speaker 1: what Dean Martin looks like as a youth. As you say, 129 00:08:12,840 --> 00:08:16,640 Speaker 1: it's a fourteen you know what? Look at the picture, 130 00:08:16,720 --> 00:08:22,119 Speaker 1: Max Lewis, describe it, and I mean, compared to what 131 00:08:23,000 --> 00:08:27,720 Speaker 1: Dean Martin, Bethany dig deeper for Pete's sake, um, compared 132 00:08:27,760 --> 00:08:31,680 Speaker 1: to what Anthony Klein looks like? What? Yeah? What girl 133 00:08:31,800 --> 00:08:35,680 Speaker 1: is going to send a picture herself to Anthony Klein 134 00:08:36,440 --> 00:08:40,480 Speaker 1: or meet up with him nobody. No thirteen year old 135 00:08:40,480 --> 00:08:43,440 Speaker 1: girl's going to meet up with this guy unless he 136 00:08:43,559 --> 00:08:47,880 Speaker 1: pretends to be that guy. Yeah, that's right. And you 137 00:08:47,880 --> 00:08:50,640 Speaker 1: know the pictures that this guy use, Like you said, 138 00:08:50,679 --> 00:08:53,240 Speaker 1: I like the comparison. I mean, he looks like like 139 00:08:53,320 --> 00:08:56,319 Speaker 1: a Justin Bieber kind of looking guy that would be 140 00:08:56,400 --> 00:09:00,800 Speaker 1: appealing to some young girls obviously, And so those are 141 00:09:00,840 --> 00:09:04,920 Speaker 1: the pictures he used. I've seen reports he apparently this 142 00:09:05,160 --> 00:09:08,160 Speaker 1: is of a police officer. Actually he's a part time 143 00:09:08,160 --> 00:09:11,400 Speaker 1: model in Alaska. And you know, this poor guy sort 144 00:09:11,400 --> 00:09:14,240 Speaker 1: of got wrapped up into all of this just because 145 00:09:14,679 --> 00:09:17,720 Speaker 1: this Keegan Klein guy decided to use his pictures in this. 146 00:09:17,880 --> 00:09:20,680 Speaker 1: So feel bad for him, But you know those pictures 147 00:09:20,720 --> 00:09:23,760 Speaker 1: definitely grab your attation, right I same, you've looked at 148 00:09:23,760 --> 00:09:25,640 Speaker 1: the picture. Don't feel too bad for him. He's got 149 00:09:25,640 --> 00:09:37,160 Speaker 1: a lot going on right there. Time Stories with Nancy Grace. 150 00:09:40,760 --> 00:09:45,760 Speaker 1: On February twenty fifth, twenty seventeen, Indiana State Police, the FBI, 151 00:09:45,880 --> 00:09:48,720 Speaker 1: and Peru Police served the search warrant at a house 152 00:09:48,760 --> 00:09:52,280 Speaker 1: in Peru where Klein was living with his father. That's 153 00:09:52,320 --> 00:09:55,400 Speaker 1: eleven days after the bodies of Abby Williams and Libby 154 00:09:55,440 --> 00:09:58,680 Speaker 1: German were found about thirty seven miles away in Delphi 155 00:09:59,559 --> 00:10:03,479 Speaker 1: invest sigators confiscated a half dozen phones and electronic devices. 156 00:10:04,040 --> 00:10:07,520 Speaker 1: Klein admitted in court documents to using the Anthony Shots 157 00:10:07,600 --> 00:10:12,240 Speaker 1: profile to communicate with underage girls and ask for sexual images. 158 00:10:12,880 --> 00:10:16,600 Speaker 1: So Max Lewis joining me, investigative reporter with Fox fifty 159 00:10:16,640 --> 00:10:21,439 Speaker 1: nine joining us out of Indianapolis. Max that reporting we 160 00:10:21,679 --> 00:10:27,079 Speaker 1: just heard from NBC. That's February twenty fifth, two thousand 161 00:10:27,080 --> 00:10:32,319 Speaker 1: and seventeen, and that is when Klein was first busted 162 00:10:32,840 --> 00:10:36,079 Speaker 1: for catfishing. Is that right? Yeah, that's right. I mean, 163 00:10:36,080 --> 00:10:38,480 Speaker 1: it was just a little more than a week after 164 00:10:38,840 --> 00:10:41,560 Speaker 1: Abby and Libby were murdered and the police showed up 165 00:10:41,559 --> 00:10:46,160 Speaker 1: at his house. They confiscated a whole lot of phones. 166 00:10:46,640 --> 00:10:50,439 Speaker 1: He had several devices on him, according to the court documents, 167 00:10:50,559 --> 00:10:53,000 Speaker 1: and you know, they contained some of them didn't contain 168 00:10:53,040 --> 00:10:56,439 Speaker 1: images sexual images of girls. Some of them they weren't 169 00:10:56,480 --> 00:11:00,040 Speaker 1: able to necessarily peg their ages. But they took a 170 00:11:00,040 --> 00:11:03,000 Speaker 1: whole lot of these phones that he was questioned about it. 171 00:11:03,760 --> 00:11:07,400 Speaker 1: But he wasn't just arrested for this until August of 172 00:11:07,559 --> 00:11:11,320 Speaker 1: last year. And now this information coming out that he's 173 00:11:11,640 --> 00:11:14,080 Speaker 1: with the Delphi investigators looking into him as well. It's 174 00:11:14,120 --> 00:11:18,000 Speaker 1: sort of a big old mystery, and nobody really knows why. 175 00:11:18,040 --> 00:11:20,920 Speaker 1: In the Indiana State Police aren't saying why at this point. 176 00:11:20,960 --> 00:11:23,800 Speaker 1: Take a listen to our cut nine listen. Thirteen News 177 00:11:23,840 --> 00:11:26,040 Speaker 1: talked to the man whose photos were using that child 178 00:11:26,160 --> 00:11:30,679 Speaker 1: exploitation pace that involved Keegan Klein. Now, Klein is the 179 00:11:30,720 --> 00:11:34,000 Speaker 1: guide that State police is behind the Anthony Schott social 180 00:11:34,000 --> 00:11:37,760 Speaker 1: media PLAUP. Detectives in the Delphi murders investigation say that 181 00:11:37,880 --> 00:11:41,600 Speaker 1: profile caught their attention. Now, he also works as a model, 182 00:11:41,880 --> 00:11:44,760 Speaker 1: and we're not releasing his name to protect his identity, 183 00:11:44,800 --> 00:11:46,800 Speaker 1: but he told us that he didn't know that his 184 00:11:46,920 --> 00:11:49,880 Speaker 1: photos were stolen and that his images were the ones 185 00:11:49,960 --> 00:11:53,760 Speaker 1: being used to catfish young girls. He also works as 186 00:11:53,760 --> 00:11:57,600 Speaker 1: a police officer and told us quote, it's frustrating as 187 00:11:57,600 --> 00:12:00,640 Speaker 1: a police officer knowing that my photo was used for 188 00:12:00,679 --> 00:12:04,400 Speaker 1: so many heinous crimes and continues to be used as such. 189 00:12:04,679 --> 00:12:08,199 Speaker 1: He goes on to say, I feel incredibly helpless. I'd 190 00:12:08,240 --> 00:12:10,080 Speaker 1: love to be there when they find this guy so 191 00:12:10,120 --> 00:12:12,840 Speaker 1: I can throw the cuffs on him myself. Now, as 192 00:12:12,880 --> 00:12:15,640 Speaker 1: for Keegan Kline, he right now is in the Miami 193 00:12:15,679 --> 00:12:19,120 Speaker 1: County jail, and he's charged with crimes against children. He 194 00:12:19,160 --> 00:12:21,640 Speaker 1: has not been identified as a suspect or as a 195 00:12:21,679 --> 00:12:24,680 Speaker 1: person of interest in the Delphi case, but Indiana State 196 00:12:24,720 --> 00:12:27,319 Speaker 1: Police want to talk to anyone who may have interacted 197 00:12:27,600 --> 00:12:34,479 Speaker 1: with that faith Anthony Shots profile. What exactly is catfishing? 198 00:12:35,240 --> 00:12:38,600 Speaker 1: To Wendy Patrick, California Prosecutor, all, there are red flags 199 00:12:38,800 --> 00:12:43,120 Speaker 1: way in. Yeah, you know, Nancy. Modern criminals use the 200 00:12:43,160 --> 00:12:46,240 Speaker 1: Internet to lure innocent victims, but they have to find 201 00:12:46,280 --> 00:12:50,120 Speaker 1: the right bait. Catfishing schemes where you pretend to be 202 00:12:50,280 --> 00:12:55,040 Speaker 1: someone to get something. For example, you pretend to be 203 00:12:55,200 --> 00:12:58,440 Speaker 1: somebody needing help to get money, to get assistance, you 204 00:12:58,520 --> 00:13:01,559 Speaker 1: pretend to be somebody attracted of like Anthony Shots to 205 00:13:01,720 --> 00:13:05,359 Speaker 1: lure young rules to send you nude photographs. These schemes 206 00:13:05,520 --> 00:13:07,920 Speaker 1: take a lot of time and effort, and you wonder 207 00:13:08,000 --> 00:13:11,320 Speaker 1: whether some of that equipment, the phones, the devices that 208 00:13:11,360 --> 00:13:14,960 Speaker 1: were confiscated from the home, what more did they contain 209 00:13:15,480 --> 00:13:17,520 Speaker 1: that might lead us to know a little bit more 210 00:13:17,520 --> 00:13:20,560 Speaker 1: about why this man is in custody. And it would 211 00:13:20,600 --> 00:13:24,000 Speaker 1: not be the first time a young girl has been 212 00:13:24,120 --> 00:13:28,679 Speaker 1: quote catfished. Take a listen to our cut C eleven 213 00:13:29,520 --> 00:13:34,600 Speaker 1: This is Sarah Blake Morgan wb TV talking about a 214 00:13:34,640 --> 00:13:38,680 Speaker 1: little girl named Haley at Leas's father, Anthony Byrne, says 215 00:13:38,720 --> 00:13:41,520 Speaker 1: his sixteen year old vanished from her bedroom Sunday night. 216 00:13:41,720 --> 00:13:44,320 Speaker 1: My wife opened the door and she was not there. 217 00:13:44,440 --> 00:13:47,360 Speaker 1: She left a diary behind that, Anthony says, detailed a 218 00:13:47,440 --> 00:13:50,080 Speaker 1: plan to run away with a thirty two year old 219 00:13:50,280 --> 00:13:53,640 Speaker 1: she met online. He gradually wormed his way into her 220 00:13:53,640 --> 00:13:59,040 Speaker 1: good races. He coerced her to start listening to him 221 00:13:59,040 --> 00:14:01,679 Speaker 1: and not following our directions or Burne says, Hailey has 222 00:14:01,679 --> 00:14:05,079 Speaker 1: asked burgers and they've had behavioral issues with her before. 223 00:14:05,280 --> 00:14:07,719 Speaker 1: That is why he says they did everything to make 224 00:14:07,760 --> 00:14:10,880 Speaker 1: sure this wouldn't happen, but it did. We had tried 225 00:14:10,920 --> 00:14:15,760 Speaker 1: to limit it all social media for her at home, telephones, computers, etc. 226 00:14:16,480 --> 00:14:18,560 Speaker 1: And she still found ways around it. She would use 227 00:14:18,600 --> 00:14:22,720 Speaker 1: friends smartphones or the school library computers. Police are investigating, 228 00:14:22,760 --> 00:14:24,960 Speaker 1: but Burne says they don't have any real leads on 229 00:14:25,040 --> 00:14:27,640 Speaker 1: the man he believes took his daughter. There's no telling 230 00:14:27,640 --> 00:14:29,240 Speaker 1: who he is. He might not be thirty two, he 231 00:14:29,320 --> 00:14:33,720 Speaker 1: could be fifty five and running a human trafficking organization. 232 00:14:33,760 --> 00:14:37,280 Speaker 1: There's no talent Ah. And it's not just young girls, 233 00:14:37,840 --> 00:14:41,800 Speaker 1: little girls like Abby or Liberty and just thirteen and 234 00:14:41,920 --> 00:14:45,360 Speaker 1: fourteen that can be catfish. Take a listen to Diane 235 00:14:45,360 --> 00:14:49,880 Speaker 1: Stanish Our cat fifteen and My Whole Field News six Orlando. 236 00:14:50,120 --> 00:14:52,080 Speaker 1: I never thought I could fall in love with somebody 237 00:14:52,080 --> 00:14:54,680 Speaker 1: over the telephone, but for some reason, it just he 238 00:14:55,480 --> 00:14:58,120 Speaker 1: just said the right things to me. That's right. They've 239 00:14:58,240 --> 00:15:03,720 Speaker 1: never met, Diane Standish fell in love with a voice, 240 00:15:02,760 --> 00:15:07,920 Speaker 1: thank you, photographs and texts all adding up to a lie. 241 00:15:08,000 --> 00:15:10,600 Speaker 1: And it sounds like he set you up. She has 242 00:15:10,600 --> 00:15:13,520 Speaker 1: a paper trail of bank records, cash withdrawals from her 243 00:15:13,560 --> 00:15:18,520 Speaker 1: personal accounts, and bank deposits to Wells Fargo and other banks. Ironically, 244 00:15:18,760 --> 00:15:22,280 Speaker 1: he even sent her an iou it could be anybody anywhere. 245 00:15:22,400 --> 00:15:27,520 Speaker 1: I have no clue. Girls as young as twelve pat 246 00:15:27,600 --> 00:15:31,560 Speaker 1: fished on line. Take a listen to Our cut ten. 247 00:15:32,280 --> 00:15:34,440 Speaker 1: The Fed say the two met online when the girl 248 00:15:34,480 --> 00:15:37,640 Speaker 1: was only twelve, and prosecutors say this sheriff deputy would 249 00:15:37,680 --> 00:15:41,360 Speaker 1: manipulate and threaten her all the way from Texas. A 250 00:15:41,520 --> 00:15:45,800 Speaker 1: Texas sheriff deputy accused of cyberstocking a Wooster County teenager 251 00:15:45,920 --> 00:15:49,760 Speaker 1: through the popular video game Minecraft. According to the thirteen 252 00:15:49,800 --> 00:15:53,400 Speaker 1: page indictment unsealed Wednesday, the twenty five year old deputy 253 00:15:53,400 --> 00:15:56,560 Speaker 1: would refer to himself as Geno and Daddy, and the 254 00:15:56,680 --> 00:16:00,400 Speaker 1: miner as baby Girl. Prosecutors say the two met online 255 00:16:00,440 --> 00:16:03,600 Speaker 1: back in twenty fourteen, when the victim was twelve. Over 256 00:16:03,640 --> 00:16:06,080 Speaker 1: the years, authorities say the girls sent him hundreds of 257 00:16:06,120 --> 00:16:10,000 Speaker 1: explicit photos of herself. She's now seventeen and reported to 258 00:16:10,160 --> 00:16:13,320 Speaker 1: police this past spring. She believed the Texas deputy was 259 00:16:13,400 --> 00:16:16,840 Speaker 1: tracking her movements via social media, and he was allegedly 260 00:16:16,920 --> 00:16:20,360 Speaker 1: threatening to publish her explicit photos or rape her sister 261 00:16:20,600 --> 00:16:23,760 Speaker 1: if she didn't continue to send him nude pictures. You 262 00:16:23,800 --> 00:16:27,200 Speaker 1: were hearing our friends at WADH seven. That was Eric Kane, 263 00:16:27,480 --> 00:16:30,840 Speaker 1: So to you, Max Lewis, I want to get back 264 00:16:30,880 --> 00:16:33,680 Speaker 1: to the case at hand, the case in chief, the 265 00:16:34,120 --> 00:16:38,400 Speaker 1: murderers of thirteen and fourteen year old Liberty and Abbey. 266 00:16:38,640 --> 00:16:43,040 Speaker 1: Did I hear you say that the fans were carrying 267 00:16:43,160 --> 00:16:47,600 Speaker 1: out evidence and even took this guy, twenty seven year 268 00:16:47,600 --> 00:16:51,600 Speaker 1: old Anthony Klein's dog. Yeah, just a couple of just 269 00:16:51,640 --> 00:16:53,400 Speaker 1: a couple of weeks ago. They showed up at his 270 00:16:53,440 --> 00:16:56,480 Speaker 1: house in Peru. Which is just about thirty miles from 271 00:16:56,480 --> 00:17:01,120 Speaker 1: where from Delphi up in northern Indiana. We spoke to 272 00:17:01,160 --> 00:17:04,280 Speaker 1: a neighbor who said that there were just cars filling 273 00:17:04,320 --> 00:17:07,159 Speaker 1: the street where this guy lives with his dad. They 274 00:17:07,160 --> 00:17:09,760 Speaker 1: were looking for information on him and they ended up 275 00:17:09,800 --> 00:17:14,920 Speaker 1: taking his dog. No idea why that was or why 276 00:17:15,800 --> 00:17:18,639 Speaker 1: why they need his dog. Well, I've got an idea, 277 00:17:18,760 --> 00:17:23,760 Speaker 1: Max lewis something to do with dog hair with me, 278 00:17:23,960 --> 00:17:28,359 Speaker 1: Professor Forensics, Jacksonville State University, author of Blood Beneath My 279 00:17:28,440 --> 00:17:31,119 Speaker 1: Fate on Amazon you can hear him yourself on Body 280 00:17:31,160 --> 00:17:36,399 Speaker 1: Bags with Joseph Scott Morgan Joe Scott, what do you think? Okay, 281 00:17:37,320 --> 00:17:40,400 Speaker 1: you know, back all the way back on the seventeenth 282 00:17:40,480 --> 00:17:44,200 Speaker 1: of February of twenty seventeen, do you remember what they said, Nancy. 283 00:17:44,320 --> 00:17:47,200 Speaker 1: They said that we had recovered we being the state police, 284 00:17:47,240 --> 00:17:49,240 Speaker 1: they released at that and we were very excited about this. 285 00:17:49,320 --> 00:17:52,280 Speaker 1: I remember they said they had recovered DNA that they 286 00:17:52,280 --> 00:17:55,760 Speaker 1: thought was tied back to the perpetrator from the bodies, 287 00:17:56,440 --> 00:17:59,560 Speaker 1: you know. And so this is eight days prior to 288 00:17:59,640 --> 00:18:03,600 Speaker 1: the initial contact with this fellow over in Peru, and 289 00:18:03,800 --> 00:18:07,119 Speaker 1: I'm wondering what the sourcing of this DNA is I 290 00:18:07,160 --> 00:18:10,639 Speaker 1: don't necessarily think that it means that the dog was 291 00:18:10,760 --> 00:18:13,720 Speaker 1: physically present at the scene, that that's what they're thinking about. 292 00:18:13,800 --> 00:18:16,440 Speaker 1: But let's just entertain me for a second. If you're 293 00:18:16,440 --> 00:18:20,399 Speaker 1: in dwelling a home with an animal, you're going to 294 00:18:20,440 --> 00:18:23,960 Speaker 1: contact their hair. You know, your dogs. You can look 295 00:18:24,000 --> 00:18:26,600 Speaker 1: down at your pants sometimes probably and you wear dark clothes, 296 00:18:26,600 --> 00:18:29,080 Speaker 1: you'll see that you have these hairs. Well, what if 297 00:18:29,119 --> 00:18:32,520 Speaker 1: he transferred hair from himself to the bodies and at 298 00:18:32,560 --> 00:18:34,920 Speaker 1: the morgue. One of the things that we do is 299 00:18:34,960 --> 00:18:38,040 Speaker 1: something called tape lifting. It's when we take a look 300 00:18:38,080 --> 00:18:40,119 Speaker 1: it's clear tape. It kind of looks like it's the 301 00:18:40,119 --> 00:18:44,040 Speaker 1: width of like standard duct tape, and we actually apply 302 00:18:44,160 --> 00:18:46,520 Speaker 1: the tape all over the body in various sections, and 303 00:18:46,560 --> 00:18:49,520 Speaker 1: we lift up everything that we can microscopically before we 304 00:18:49,600 --> 00:18:52,479 Speaker 1: ever touch the body in any other manner. So if 305 00:18:52,520 --> 00:18:55,000 Speaker 1: they got a hit on some kind of odd hair 306 00:18:55,240 --> 00:18:58,000 Speaker 1: that was there, they're going to want to compare that hair, 307 00:18:58,560 --> 00:19:00,879 Speaker 1: you know, relative to what they recover off the body 308 00:19:00,960 --> 00:19:04,280 Speaker 1: with something like a canine, you know, because canines and 309 00:19:04,440 --> 00:19:08,600 Speaker 1: felines and us our hairs are all very distinctive at 310 00:19:08,600 --> 00:19:11,639 Speaker 1: a microscopic level, and they do in fact contain DNA 311 00:19:11,720 --> 00:19:16,240 Speaker 1: as well, depended upon the viability of the hair itself. Nancy, 312 00:19:17,000 --> 00:19:19,959 Speaker 1: So what do you think forensically or in all the 313 00:19:20,000 --> 00:19:23,160 Speaker 1: bags that they were taking out of the home. Yeah, 314 00:19:23,200 --> 00:19:26,080 Speaker 1: I think it's probably going to be you know, obviously, 315 00:19:26,400 --> 00:19:29,320 Speaker 1: you know Max had mentioned electronic devices, but you also 316 00:19:29,359 --> 00:19:32,520 Speaker 1: have to think about clothing, other contact that may have 317 00:19:32,560 --> 00:19:36,600 Speaker 1: been there. And Nancy, here's I even hate to say this. 318 00:19:38,720 --> 00:19:43,480 Speaker 1: If this guy is a trophy taker, God only knows 319 00:19:43,880 --> 00:19:47,120 Speaker 1: what he may have in that house. Because I can 320 00:19:47,160 --> 00:19:52,000 Speaker 1: tell you something about predators. These guys network. Just like 321 00:19:52,080 --> 00:19:55,439 Speaker 1: they share, Just like they share images around, they like 322 00:19:55,560 --> 00:19:58,240 Speaker 1: to retain things as well, and they'll share those as well. 323 00:19:58,280 --> 00:20:01,359 Speaker 1: They might even share photos of items that they've taken 324 00:20:01,560 --> 00:20:04,439 Speaker 1: from individuals. And you know, we can go anywhere we 325 00:20:04,480 --> 00:20:07,240 Speaker 1: want to with that forensically, and that's what they're trying 326 00:20:07,280 --> 00:20:09,840 Speaker 1: to recover. And listen, they might only get one bite 327 00:20:09,840 --> 00:20:12,000 Speaker 1: at the apple with this. Who knows, you know, once 328 00:20:12,480 --> 00:20:14,119 Speaker 1: the Feds have kind of stuck their head up on 329 00:20:14,119 --> 00:20:17,479 Speaker 1: this thing, they might the individual that occupies this location 330 00:20:17,560 --> 00:20:20,040 Speaker 1: might take everything and destroy it. So they're gonna walk out. 331 00:20:20,080 --> 00:20:22,359 Speaker 1: I've walked out of scenes before. I remember one night 332 00:20:22,400 --> 00:20:24,520 Speaker 1: in particular, we walked out with over three hundred bags 333 00:20:24,520 --> 00:20:27,040 Speaker 1: of evidence from the scene. So yeah, they're they're, they're 334 00:20:27,160 --> 00:20:45,680 Speaker 1: they're swinging for the fences. Crime Stories with Nancy Grace Team. 335 00:20:45,760 --> 00:20:48,399 Speaker 1: Max Lewis the reporter joining us from Fox fifty nine 336 00:20:48,440 --> 00:20:53,640 Speaker 1: in Indianapolis. I've seen killers take driver's licenses of victims, 337 00:20:53,680 --> 00:20:56,159 Speaker 1: their jewelry, not to hock it, not to resell it, 338 00:20:56,240 --> 00:20:58,840 Speaker 1: but to keep it and look at it and they 339 00:20:58,920 --> 00:21:03,840 Speaker 1: relive the incident. It's like I keep ticket stubs or 340 00:21:04,240 --> 00:21:09,919 Speaker 1: Broadway show pamphlets, just all sorts of things. That's what 341 00:21:10,000 --> 00:21:13,240 Speaker 1: he's talking about. Trophies. Do we know, Max Lewis, of 342 00:21:13,400 --> 00:21:19,040 Speaker 1: anything that was missing from Liberty, Libby or Abbey, like 343 00:21:19,760 --> 00:21:23,679 Speaker 1: a shirt, a necklace, a bracelet, a hat, anything, you know. 344 00:21:23,800 --> 00:21:27,440 Speaker 1: Indiana State Police have been so tight lipped about this, 345 00:21:28,080 --> 00:21:31,240 Speaker 1: you know, investiation and the way in which the bodies 346 00:21:31,280 --> 00:21:34,920 Speaker 1: were found. They haven't even released how these girls were murdered. 347 00:21:34,960 --> 00:21:37,159 Speaker 1: They haven't even given a cause of death in this 348 00:21:37,359 --> 00:21:40,040 Speaker 1: almost five years since these murders happened, so they have 349 00:21:40,119 --> 00:21:43,000 Speaker 1: been so tight lipped about this. I did want to 350 00:21:43,000 --> 00:21:45,680 Speaker 1: sort of jump in on what a previous guests was 351 00:21:45,760 --> 00:21:49,280 Speaker 1: saying because the phones that they took out of this 352 00:21:49,320 --> 00:21:53,000 Speaker 1: guy's house shortly after the murders, there were some that 353 00:21:53,080 --> 00:21:57,119 Speaker 1: had been factory reset. You know, data had been wiped 354 00:21:57,200 --> 00:22:00,520 Speaker 1: from some of these phones after their initials search and 355 00:22:00,920 --> 00:22:04,119 Speaker 1: this Keegan Klein guy eventually turned them into police. But 356 00:22:04,200 --> 00:22:06,359 Speaker 1: these phones, some of the phones had been wiped of 357 00:22:06,440 --> 00:22:10,680 Speaker 1: all their data. They I believe have been able, according 358 00:22:10,720 --> 00:22:12,800 Speaker 1: to these core documents, have been able to get some 359 00:22:12,920 --> 00:22:15,159 Speaker 1: data off of But it's interesting because there may be 360 00:22:15,320 --> 00:22:18,120 Speaker 1: some data missing from that that could be really important 361 00:22:18,119 --> 00:22:21,639 Speaker 1: to this investigation. You're absolutely correct. Take a listen to 362 00:22:21,800 --> 00:22:25,399 Speaker 1: our cut four from NBC or records say they found 363 00:22:25,480 --> 00:22:29,280 Speaker 1: hundreds of sexually explicit photos and videos on the devices, 364 00:22:29,760 --> 00:22:34,560 Speaker 1: many from locations across Indiana, including Indianapolis, Kocomo, and Booker Hill. 365 00:22:35,119 --> 00:22:38,520 Speaker 1: But core documents also say that Climb factory reset one 366 00:22:38,600 --> 00:22:42,560 Speaker 1: phone two days before police arrived, and deleted the Internet 367 00:22:42,640 --> 00:22:46,040 Speaker 1: history and social media apps from another phone before turning 368 00:22:46,040 --> 00:22:48,679 Speaker 1: it over to police two days after he was interviewed. 369 00:22:49,320 --> 00:22:53,480 Speaker 1: Climb was not charged until August nineteen, twenty twenty. He 370 00:22:53,600 --> 00:22:58,200 Speaker 1: faces thirty felony counts from twenty sixteen. And seventeen, or 371 00:22:58,240 --> 00:23:03,399 Speaker 1: possession of child pornography, child exploitation, obstruction of justice, and 372 00:23:03,560 --> 00:23:09,959 Speaker 1: synthetic identity deception. Synthetic identity deception, I think that means catfishing, 373 00:23:10,280 --> 00:23:13,480 Speaker 1: when you pretend to be one thing online and social 374 00:23:13,480 --> 00:23:18,200 Speaker 1: media and you're something very, very different. So, wow, Dodger Bethany. 375 00:23:18,320 --> 00:23:23,720 Speaker 1: They found hundreds of sexually explicit photos and videos on 376 00:23:23,800 --> 00:23:28,800 Speaker 1: these devices in multiple locations. And this is right after 377 00:23:29,080 --> 00:23:34,720 Speaker 1: he factory reset. So if he tried to delete damning 378 00:23:34,800 --> 00:23:38,360 Speaker 1: material but he left all that, what was so damning 379 00:23:38,720 --> 00:23:42,920 Speaker 1: that he deleted it? Worse than childhorn? Nancy? Who knows? 380 00:23:43,080 --> 00:23:45,679 Speaker 1: Maybe he's a serial killer, I mean littled his father. 381 00:23:45,960 --> 00:23:48,240 Speaker 1: I would doubt he has a day job. His whole 382 00:23:48,240 --> 00:23:53,040 Speaker 1: life is wrapped around this perversion, this compulsion to learn 383 00:23:53,160 --> 00:23:55,960 Speaker 1: the young girls. You know, we only we probably just 384 00:23:56,040 --> 00:23:58,960 Speaker 1: have the tip of the iceberg here, and we're thinking 385 00:23:58,960 --> 00:24:02,200 Speaker 1: about this in terms to the Delphi murders. But this 386 00:24:02,240 --> 00:24:06,520 Speaker 1: guy client could be connected to a whole pedophile ring. 387 00:24:07,160 --> 00:24:09,920 Speaker 1: And I know that that term sounds trite, like, oh, 388 00:24:10,000 --> 00:24:12,119 Speaker 1: pedophile rings, we hear about it on the news, But 389 00:24:12,240 --> 00:24:15,600 Speaker 1: think about it. If he has such a huge, huge 390 00:24:15,680 --> 00:24:19,399 Speaker 1: cash of photos, what's retained as well as what he's wiped. 391 00:24:20,200 --> 00:24:22,240 Speaker 1: Maybe he didn't get all of those on his own. 392 00:24:23,160 --> 00:24:26,840 Speaker 1: Maybe he's sharing them with other pedophiles. So if he's 393 00:24:26,880 --> 00:24:31,400 Speaker 1: such a prolific gatherer of all of these photos, he's 394 00:24:31,440 --> 00:24:35,840 Speaker 1: getting them from other purps. So how many others are 395 00:24:35,960 --> 00:24:38,960 Speaker 1: standing behind him? No wonder they came screeching up to 396 00:24:39,000 --> 00:24:41,879 Speaker 1: his front door so many years later. There could be 397 00:24:41,920 --> 00:24:44,320 Speaker 1: other murders in the area. There could be other girls 398 00:24:44,320 --> 00:24:47,560 Speaker 1: that are being lured, other families that he's talking to. 399 00:24:48,280 --> 00:24:51,639 Speaker 1: I mean, this is just a little drop in a 400 00:24:51,960 --> 00:24:58,000 Speaker 1: huge reservoir. I'm just thinking through what you're saying back 401 00:24:58,040 --> 00:25:04,520 Speaker 1: to you, Max Lewis, the timing, the timing finding him. 402 00:25:05,080 --> 00:25:10,600 Speaker 1: Go through that again, starting with the deaths, the disappearances 403 00:25:10,640 --> 00:25:14,200 Speaker 1: on libby An Abbey. Yeah, so the deaths happened in 404 00:25:14,280 --> 00:25:18,199 Speaker 1: about mid February of twenty seventeen. Then, uh, you know, 405 00:25:18,280 --> 00:25:20,959 Speaker 1: a little less than two weeks later, they show up 406 00:25:20,960 --> 00:25:25,840 Speaker 1: at the ski inclined guy's house and confiscate these phones. 407 00:25:25,880 --> 00:25:28,199 Speaker 1: And remember, just like that report had said, just a 408 00:25:28,200 --> 00:25:31,560 Speaker 1: couple days before he had factory reset one of those phones, 409 00:25:31,600 --> 00:25:35,560 Speaker 1: and so they had all that information that they took 410 00:25:35,600 --> 00:25:38,280 Speaker 1: from his house, and then he was charged actually in 411 00:25:38,320 --> 00:25:41,880 Speaker 1: August of last year with these you know, litany of felonies. 412 00:25:42,880 --> 00:25:47,680 Speaker 1: And now just this past week, Indiana State Police say, hey, 413 00:25:47,720 --> 00:25:52,160 Speaker 1: we're looking into this account that this guy ran in 414 00:25:52,200 --> 00:25:55,320 Speaker 1: connection to, not in connection to, I should say, but 415 00:25:55,800 --> 00:25:58,240 Speaker 1: you know, in relation to the Delphi murders. The Delphi 416 00:25:58,280 --> 00:26:02,359 Speaker 1: investigators are looking into this account. And so it's you know, 417 00:26:02,520 --> 00:26:05,040 Speaker 1: it's left to wonder, well, what connection is he had, 418 00:26:05,080 --> 00:26:08,600 Speaker 1: how long have they known about this possible connection, if any, 419 00:26:08,760 --> 00:26:11,240 Speaker 1: and what about the guy that was posing Take a 420 00:26:11,280 --> 00:26:14,680 Speaker 1: listen to our cut five Troopers say that someone created 421 00:26:14,720 --> 00:26:18,159 Speaker 1: an account named Anthony Shots and use pictures of a 422 00:26:18,280 --> 00:26:21,560 Speaker 1: known male model to attempt to catfish young women. These 423 00:26:21,560 --> 00:26:23,800 Speaker 1: are some of the pictures used in that profile. The 424 00:26:23,840 --> 00:26:27,480 Speaker 1: man portrayed in these pictures is not a person of interest. 425 00:26:27,760 --> 00:26:30,199 Speaker 1: These are simply the pictures that the person behind the 426 00:26:30,200 --> 00:26:32,879 Speaker 1: account posted, but police want to know if any of 427 00:26:32,920 --> 00:26:36,160 Speaker 1: these pictures look familiar to you. Still, police aren't saying 428 00:26:36,160 --> 00:26:39,719 Speaker 1: exactly how this account could be linked to the Delphi murders, 429 00:26:39,760 --> 00:26:42,440 Speaker 1: but they're looking for more information from you. All the same. 430 00:26:42,640 --> 00:26:46,400 Speaker 1: The fictitious Anthony Shots profile use images of a known 431 00:26:46,440 --> 00:26:50,159 Speaker 1: male model and portrayed himself as being extremely wealthy and 432 00:26:50,280 --> 00:26:55,239 Speaker 1: owning numerous sports cars. The creator the fictitious profile use 433 00:26:55,320 --> 00:27:00,520 Speaker 1: this information while communicating with juvenile females to solicit new images, 434 00:27:01,280 --> 00:27:05,120 Speaker 1: obtain their address, and attempt to meet with them. Police 435 00:27:05,119 --> 00:27:09,960 Speaker 1: have just revealed that a catfish account created by a 436 00:27:10,160 --> 00:27:17,240 Speaker 1: suspected pedophile may be connected to the disappearance and deaths 437 00:27:17,280 --> 00:27:21,680 Speaker 1: of two gorgeous young Delphi girls, thirteen and fourteen year 438 00:27:21,720 --> 00:27:27,240 Speaker 1: old Liberty and Abigail. Right now, police are desperately searching 439 00:27:27,280 --> 00:27:33,280 Speaker 1: for anyone connected to this account. An account created by 440 00:27:33,359 --> 00:27:37,880 Speaker 1: the suspected pedophile, a fake account using images of an 441 00:27:38,040 --> 00:27:44,960 Speaker 1: innocent male model to lure young girls to Max Lewis 442 00:27:45,040 --> 00:27:49,119 Speaker 1: joining us from Fox fifty nine. From my understanding, what Klein, 443 00:27:49,359 --> 00:27:52,360 Speaker 1: twenty seven year old Anthony Klein was doing was not 444 00:27:52,640 --> 00:27:55,879 Speaker 1: just getting young girls to send him nude photos of themselves, 445 00:27:56,000 --> 00:27:58,880 Speaker 1: but to actually meet up with him. Is that correct? Yeah, 446 00:27:58,920 --> 00:28:01,040 Speaker 1: that's what in the NFCA police told us. They said 447 00:28:01,040 --> 00:28:03,280 Speaker 1: that he used this account not only like you said, 448 00:28:03,320 --> 00:28:06,879 Speaker 1: to solicit nude images and to connect with these young girls, 449 00:28:06,880 --> 00:28:10,040 Speaker 1: but in some cases try and meet up with them. 450 00:28:10,080 --> 00:28:13,280 Speaker 1: So that would probably mean in that area around Peru 451 00:28:13,359 --> 00:28:17,680 Speaker 1: where he lives. Again, Delphi's only thirty miles from there, 452 00:28:17,760 --> 00:28:21,000 Speaker 1: so he was attempting. According to the Indiana State Police, 453 00:28:21,080 --> 00:28:23,399 Speaker 1: he was attempting to meet up with girls in the 454 00:28:23,400 --> 00:28:26,760 Speaker 1: area as well as you get sexually explicit images of them. 455 00:28:27,040 --> 00:28:29,800 Speaker 1: It would not be the first time a child has 456 00:28:29,840 --> 00:28:34,240 Speaker 1: been lured online. Take a listen to our cut twelve. 457 00:28:34,280 --> 00:28:37,639 Speaker 1: This is from ABC four. It's Anne Emerson speaking. An 458 00:28:37,720 --> 00:28:40,760 Speaker 1: eleven year old driver on a three hour trip pulls 459 00:28:40,800 --> 00:28:44,840 Speaker 1: over randomly into a restaurant parking lot early Monday morning. 460 00:28:45,080 --> 00:28:48,520 Speaker 1: A police cruiser is there, and he needed help. And 461 00:28:48,640 --> 00:28:51,440 Speaker 1: also Braun was in the right place at the right time, 462 00:28:52,280 --> 00:28:55,480 Speaker 1: and that's possibly what saved this young man's life, says 463 00:28:55,560 --> 00:28:58,560 Speaker 1: Charleston Police Chief Luther Reynolds. Well to find out why 464 00:28:58,560 --> 00:29:01,680 Speaker 1: he was in Charleston, where he was from, where he 465 00:29:01,760 --> 00:29:05,040 Speaker 1: was supposed to be an officer on night duty. The 466 00:29:05,120 --> 00:29:08,600 Speaker 1: eleven year old pulls in. Within a minute, the officer 467 00:29:08,640 --> 00:29:12,080 Speaker 1: gets out to investigate. The boy shakes hands with the officer. 468 00:29:12,400 --> 00:29:15,800 Speaker 1: Within twenty three minutes from the initial meeting, the child 469 00:29:16,040 --> 00:29:18,960 Speaker 1: gets into the cruiser. The boy told police he was 470 00:29:19,000 --> 00:29:22,040 Speaker 1: from Simpsondel. He said he took his brother's car and 471 00:29:22,120 --> 00:29:25,400 Speaker 1: drove two hundred miles to meet a man from Snapchat. 472 00:29:25,720 --> 00:29:27,920 Speaker 1: He said he was going to live with him. Jess 473 00:29:27,960 --> 00:29:30,960 Speaker 1: got Morgan, You and I covered that case together. An 474 00:29:30,960 --> 00:29:36,040 Speaker 1: eleven year old child has driven hours and hours through 475 00:29:36,080 --> 00:29:39,960 Speaker 1: the night to meet up with some unbeknowns to the child, 476 00:29:40,040 --> 00:29:43,720 Speaker 1: some PERV. And he happens to pull into a fast 477 00:29:43,760 --> 00:29:47,400 Speaker 1: food restaurant and the cop was sitting there, a cop, 478 00:29:47,480 --> 00:29:50,320 Speaker 1: an off duty cop, was sitting there. Says, car drive 479 00:29:50,400 --> 00:29:52,680 Speaker 1: by and there's like this little bit of head in it. 480 00:29:52,800 --> 00:29:56,200 Speaker 1: You can hardly see anybody driving. So the cop goes over. 481 00:29:56,360 --> 00:29:59,600 Speaker 1: It's an eleven year old little boy who has been 482 00:29:59,640 --> 00:30:06,160 Speaker 1: tricked online by a PURV. It's just like shooting efficient 483 00:30:06,240 --> 00:30:09,560 Speaker 1: a barrel for these these purvs online. Yeah, no kid 484 00:30:09,560 --> 00:30:11,360 Speaker 1: in this little boy had an angel on the shoulder 485 00:30:11,400 --> 00:30:13,360 Speaker 1: when that happened. You know, what are they? You know, 486 00:30:13,440 --> 00:30:15,640 Speaker 1: and God only knows what could have happened to this 487 00:30:15,760 --> 00:30:18,000 Speaker 1: poor kid, you know, had they not been there and 488 00:30:18,080 --> 00:30:22,480 Speaker 1: interdicted the situation. But these people are everywhere, Nancy, these 489 00:30:22,480 --> 00:30:26,080 Speaker 1: predators are like this, And going back to what doctor 490 00:30:26,160 --> 00:30:30,480 Speaker 1: Bethany had said, about the networking involved in this. It's 491 00:30:30,520 --> 00:30:33,400 Speaker 1: so widespread, Nancy, it is I hate to use the 492 00:30:33,440 --> 00:30:36,960 Speaker 1: word epidemic because it's thrown around a lot, But in 493 00:30:36,960 --> 00:30:41,560 Speaker 1: this particular case, the network, the Internet has sped this 494 00:30:41,720 --> 00:30:46,240 Speaker 1: up exponentially, almost that it's almost like wildfire. It extends 495 00:30:46,280 --> 00:30:49,520 Speaker 1: out so far. And these people share images, Nancy, they 496 00:30:49,560 --> 00:30:54,200 Speaker 1: even share these victims with one another many times. But 497 00:30:54,280 --> 00:30:56,880 Speaker 1: this is this is the key here. I think the 498 00:30:56,960 --> 00:31:01,120 Speaker 1: person that we've been talking about, I suspect that they 499 00:31:01,120 --> 00:31:05,640 Speaker 1: have taken a DNA sample from this individual, and I'm curious. 500 00:31:06,000 --> 00:31:09,840 Speaker 1: I'm curious if we have any kind of match from 501 00:31:09,840 --> 00:31:13,800 Speaker 1: the scene, from the from the evidence from Abbey and 502 00:31:13,880 --> 00:31:17,040 Speaker 1: Libby scene, because they said that they had DNA out there, 503 00:31:17,040 --> 00:31:20,880 Speaker 1: and I'm really wondering. And also if this DNA that 504 00:31:20,920 --> 00:31:24,720 Speaker 1: they recovered at the scene and they put this into 505 00:31:24,720 --> 00:31:27,720 Speaker 1: the national database, have they gotten any hits on this? 506 00:31:27,800 --> 00:31:29,920 Speaker 1: Have they not moved on it yet? So I'm wondering, 507 00:31:30,080 --> 00:31:32,720 Speaker 1: is this is this something where prosecutors are kind of 508 00:31:32,720 --> 00:31:35,840 Speaker 1: holding back investing their cards here, or is this something 509 00:31:35,840 --> 00:31:38,160 Speaker 1: where they're just coming up with a big beat zero. Well, 510 00:31:38,200 --> 00:31:40,320 Speaker 1: it's been five years. I hate to think they're holding 511 00:31:40,400 --> 00:31:59,120 Speaker 1: back anything crime stories with Nancy Grace. These people, these 512 00:31:59,240 --> 00:32:03,720 Speaker 1: pedophiles and purrs that are seeking out children online making 513 00:32:03,760 --> 00:32:08,200 Speaker 1: it easier and easier to victimize a child, will go 514 00:32:08,520 --> 00:32:11,920 Speaker 1: to any lengths to get their hands on a child 515 00:32:11,960 --> 00:32:15,360 Speaker 1: to actually meet up. Take a listen to our cut 516 00:32:15,400 --> 00:32:19,840 Speaker 1: thirteen from our friends at WISN twelve. Tommy Lee jenkins 517 00:32:19,840 --> 00:32:22,840 Speaker 1: first conviction on child sex charges was in twenty eleven. 518 00:32:23,160 --> 00:32:26,880 Speaker 1: Now he's charged in a new investigation. Documents show Jenkins 519 00:32:26,920 --> 00:32:30,080 Speaker 1: used Facebook to communicate with someone he thought was fourteen. 520 00:32:30,400 --> 00:32:33,200 Speaker 1: It was actually an undercovered deputy who asked do you 521 00:32:33,280 --> 00:32:37,040 Speaker 1: care I'm fourteen and drink Jenkins reply, According to the records. 522 00:32:37,240 --> 00:32:41,239 Speaker 1: No Prosecutors claimed Jenkins initiated the topic of sex and 523 00:32:41,280 --> 00:32:43,920 Speaker 1: wanted the undercover to send a picture with no shirt 524 00:32:44,080 --> 00:32:46,920 Speaker 1: no pans, asking when you get here, would you like 525 00:32:47,040 --> 00:32:50,520 Speaker 1: to have sex with me? The undercover responded yes, and 526 00:32:50,640 --> 00:32:53,880 Speaker 1: Jenkins allegedly told the undercover he planned to walk nearly 527 00:32:53,920 --> 00:32:57,840 Speaker 1: four hundred miles from Whitestown, Indiana to Nina, Wisconsin to 528 00:32:57,960 --> 00:33:02,040 Speaker 1: meet for sex. On the way, Prosecutors claim Jenkins documented 529 00:33:02,120 --> 00:33:05,160 Speaker 1: the trip with selfies and pictures of exit signs and 530 00:33:05,280 --> 00:33:08,160 Speaker 1: on Thursday. Records show Jenkins told the undercover he made 531 00:33:08,200 --> 00:33:11,600 Speaker 1: it to Wisconsin and wanted to have five hundred kids 532 00:33:11,720 --> 00:33:16,479 Speaker 1: before we are with God. Instead, Jenkins found investigators waiting 533 00:33:16,520 --> 00:33:20,320 Speaker 1: to take him back to jail. Okay, askt let that 534 00:33:20,440 --> 00:33:24,960 Speaker 1: soak in for a moment. This guy walks from Indiana. 535 00:33:25,640 --> 00:33:31,600 Speaker 1: What is happening in Indiana? From Indiana to Wisconsin? Three 536 00:33:31,640 --> 00:33:36,640 Speaker 1: hundred and fifty miles. He walks to have sex with 537 00:33:36,760 --> 00:33:40,640 Speaker 1: a fourteen year old girl and have, quote his words, 538 00:33:40,720 --> 00:33:49,080 Speaker 1: not mine, five hundred babies man before we die for 539 00:33:49,440 --> 00:33:54,640 Speaker 1: three hundred and fifty miles, and even chronicled it by 540 00:33:54,720 --> 00:33:59,680 Speaker 1: taking selfies at exits to show how far and where 541 00:33:59,680 --> 00:34:04,600 Speaker 1: who's walking to rate a fourteen year old girl, Doctor Bethany. 542 00:34:04,880 --> 00:34:09,960 Speaker 1: But I say, these pedophiles no bounds. They will go 543 00:34:10,000 --> 00:34:12,920 Speaker 1: to any links to get a hold of a child. 544 00:34:13,160 --> 00:34:16,000 Speaker 1: Does that not prove it, Nancy? It does prove it 545 00:34:16,160 --> 00:34:19,160 Speaker 1: how determined they are. Because whatever else was going on 546 00:34:19,280 --> 00:34:21,720 Speaker 1: that he claimed he wanted, I don't know five hundred 547 00:34:21,760 --> 00:34:24,280 Speaker 1: and fifty kids, or he drove, you know, he walked 548 00:34:24,400 --> 00:34:28,160 Speaker 1: hundreds of miles. This guy was determined. But I have 549 00:34:28,239 --> 00:34:31,480 Speaker 1: to say I think it's hilarious that the police let 550 00:34:31,560 --> 00:34:36,160 Speaker 1: him walk hundreds of miles before they arrested him. Could 551 00:34:36,160 --> 00:34:38,080 Speaker 1: I think a quick comment. You know, in the Gabby 552 00:34:38,120 --> 00:34:43,240 Speaker 1: Potito case, the crime was basically solved on social media, 553 00:34:43,480 --> 00:34:47,040 Speaker 1: so many people were interested in documenting where Gabby Potito was, 554 00:34:47,520 --> 00:34:49,800 Speaker 1: and I think in this case the police were putting 555 00:34:49,800 --> 00:34:53,680 Speaker 1: out a similar plea if you know of anyone who 556 00:34:53,840 --> 00:34:58,239 Speaker 1: online is experiencing contact with men like this, will you 557 00:34:58,360 --> 00:35:01,160 Speaker 1: contact the police station. But it's interesting in the Gabby 558 00:35:01,160 --> 00:35:04,640 Speaker 1: Potito case, you had adults who are social media stars 559 00:35:04,640 --> 00:35:08,800 Speaker 1: who were all sort of crowdsourcing information. In this case, 560 00:35:09,239 --> 00:35:11,439 Speaker 1: all this information is going to have to come from 561 00:35:11,480 --> 00:35:14,759 Speaker 1: thirteen fourteen year old victims, you know, and they're not 562 00:35:14,800 --> 00:35:16,680 Speaker 1: going to say that their parents. Look, I've been talking 563 00:35:16,719 --> 00:35:20,640 Speaker 1: to this guy online. So it's much trickier to try 564 00:35:20,640 --> 00:35:25,080 Speaker 1: to find out where these perpetrators are even filtrating because 565 00:35:25,440 --> 00:35:29,880 Speaker 1: it's so secret, and kids are being alienated from their parents, 566 00:35:29,880 --> 00:35:33,680 Speaker 1: and the grooming process is so extensive, and then once 567 00:35:33,719 --> 00:35:37,279 Speaker 1: the child gets hooked, they didn't feel guilty that they've 568 00:35:37,320 --> 00:35:39,759 Speaker 1: said bad things about their parents, so they're not going 569 00:35:39,800 --> 00:35:43,040 Speaker 1: to tell their parents, you know, that they've been talking 570 00:35:43,040 --> 00:35:46,319 Speaker 1: to this person, and then the guy starts to threaten them, 571 00:35:46,400 --> 00:35:50,520 Speaker 1: like the one clip that you were that you were 572 00:35:50,560 --> 00:35:53,440 Speaker 1: airing that he then threatened to kill her sister or 573 00:35:53,480 --> 00:35:57,080 Speaker 1: you know, rape her sister. That these guys have enormous 574 00:35:57,200 --> 00:36:00,319 Speaker 1: leverage over their victims, and so the victims never come 575 00:36:00,400 --> 00:36:04,640 Speaker 1: forward because another thing jump this is another thing that 576 00:36:04,800 --> 00:36:07,120 Speaker 1: makes this case very different, is it's one thing to 577 00:36:07,239 --> 00:36:10,400 Speaker 1: use your own images and seek to meet up with someone. 578 00:36:10,480 --> 00:36:13,840 Speaker 1: If you're using fake images, especially as you pointed out, 579 00:36:13,880 --> 00:36:16,719 Speaker 1: a male model that looks very different than you do 580 00:36:17,360 --> 00:36:20,160 Speaker 1: when they meet up with victims. If somebody is doing that, 581 00:36:20,600 --> 00:36:23,759 Speaker 1: what happens then when it's obvious that this is not 582 00:36:23,840 --> 00:36:26,799 Speaker 1: the person you thought you were corresponding with. That's where 583 00:36:26,840 --> 00:36:29,399 Speaker 1: we begin to get frightened. As to Wilson, how what 584 00:36:29,440 --> 00:36:31,000 Speaker 1: do you think that meeting is going to be like? 585 00:36:31,080 --> 00:36:34,359 Speaker 1: If you're obviously using somebody else's photos. And again it's 586 00:36:34,440 --> 00:36:38,440 Speaker 1: not just little girls that get catfished online. Take a 587 00:36:38,520 --> 00:36:42,640 Speaker 1: listen to our friend Mike Holfield New six Orlando Are 588 00:36:42,719 --> 00:36:48,080 Speaker 1: cut fourteen. Think you'll ever find him now? I wish 589 00:36:48,120 --> 00:36:51,240 Speaker 1: to god I could PostScript from a once wealthy widow. 590 00:36:51,560 --> 00:36:53,520 Speaker 1: I went through my bank statements and it was two 591 00:36:53,600 --> 00:36:56,840 Speaker 1: hundred and seventy thousand dollars. You love this guy? Yeah, 592 00:36:57,360 --> 00:36:58,719 Speaker 1: And he told me he was in love with me, 593 00:36:59,360 --> 00:37:02,800 Speaker 1: looking for him real relationship. They met on match dot com. 594 00:37:02,880 --> 00:37:05,239 Speaker 1: Check out match right now for free. I've talked to 595 00:37:05,280 --> 00:37:07,920 Speaker 1: a million people that something met people one harmony on 596 00:37:08,080 --> 00:37:10,560 Speaker 1: match and there be half We married, And so I 597 00:37:10,600 --> 00:37:12,759 Speaker 1: didn't have any reason to question it. You thought this 598 00:37:12,880 --> 00:37:16,920 Speaker 1: was it. She knew him as Jerry Michael aka Darnell Michael. 599 00:37:17,040 --> 00:37:19,520 Speaker 1: Diane says he told her he was a divorced German 600 00:37:19,560 --> 00:37:23,880 Speaker 1: CEO of a California construction project. This is the only 601 00:37:24,000 --> 00:37:27,360 Speaker 1: voice message she saved, Graham, how are you doing? This 602 00:37:27,560 --> 00:37:30,840 Speaker 1: is Jerry? Please call me right so we can please 603 00:37:31,360 --> 00:37:34,640 Speaker 1: thank you all right. He would call from four different numbers, 604 00:37:34,719 --> 00:37:38,360 Speaker 1: always in need of money. It was mostly lawyer fees, 605 00:37:38,880 --> 00:37:42,719 Speaker 1: bail money. You six tract those numbers to Bakersfield, California. 606 00:37:44,560 --> 00:37:48,200 Speaker 1: One had a familiar voice on the recording. Very much, 607 00:37:48,400 --> 00:37:52,399 Speaker 1: please the mess, you know, give up Q than It 608 00:37:52,440 --> 00:37:57,279 Speaker 1: turns out Diane Standish had been catfished. Is that what 609 00:37:57,560 --> 00:38:04,480 Speaker 1: happened to Liberty? And we wait as justice unfolds? Tipline 610 00:38:04,600 --> 00:38:10,560 Speaker 1: eight hundred seven nine nine safe Safe eight hundred seven 611 00:38:10,640 --> 00:38:14,839 Speaker 1: nine nine seven two three three Goodbye friend,