WEBVTT - How Dean Kamen Works 0:00:00.320 --> 0:00:02.960 Brought to you by the reinvented two thousand twelve Camray. 0:00:03.200 --> 0:00:08.760 It's ready. Are you get in touch with technology? With 0:00:08.920 --> 0:00:12.559 tech Stuff from how stuff works dot com. This podcast 0:00:12.640 --> 0:00:15.040 is brought to you by Go to Meetings, the best 0:00:15.040 --> 0:00:18.680 way to hold meetings over the Internet, reduce travel expenses, 0:00:19.000 --> 0:00:22.520 save time. Just fout an online meeting with go to Meeting. 0:00:23.079 --> 0:00:26.040 Try it free, visit go to meeting dot com slash 0:00:26.120 --> 0:00:32.040 tech stuff. Hey there, welcome to the podcast. My name 0:00:32.080 --> 0:00:34.239 is Chris Polette and I'm an editor here at how 0:00:34.280 --> 0:00:36.680 Stuff Works. Today. Sitting next to me, I have writer 0:00:36.800 --> 0:00:41.320 Jonathan Strickland. Hi there. We're talking about our podcast. So 0:00:41.360 --> 0:00:43.680 one of the things we wanted to give a try 0:00:44.040 --> 0:00:46.920 was to talk about some of the great innovators and technology, 0:00:47.600 --> 0:00:50.320 and to kick off our series, we we decided to 0:00:50.840 --> 0:00:54.800 talk about Dean Cayman. Yeah. Um, I don't know about 0:00:54.840 --> 0:00:57.520 about Chris, but the first time I became aware of 0:00:57.920 --> 0:01:01.160 Dean Cayman was back in two thousand one. It was 0:01:01.200 --> 0:01:05.959 the spring of two thousand one. In fact, um, the 0:01:06.000 --> 0:01:09.720 way back machine after two thousand one, Quiet you alright? 0:01:09.800 --> 0:01:14.640 So um so two thousand one and the news, uh, 0:01:14.840 --> 0:01:18.280 news media and the news agencies kind of we're picking 0:01:18.319 --> 0:01:22.720 up on the story about this mysterious invention that was 0:01:22.760 --> 0:01:27.000 going to hit UH and and change the world, change 0:01:27.080 --> 0:01:29.800 the very way we do things in the world, and 0:01:29.800 --> 0:01:32.840 and there weren't really that many details. It had two 0:01:32.840 --> 0:01:36.720 different UM code names, if you will. One of them 0:01:36.880 --> 0:01:43.560 was Ginger and the other was the even more descriptive it, 0:01:45.000 --> 0:01:49.520 which of course meant that all the different UH magazines 0:01:49.560 --> 0:01:54.920 and news the television shows, everyone was saying, what is it? 0:01:55.560 --> 0:02:00.680 Made writing headlines far too easy, so it's almost like 0:02:00.680 --> 0:02:04.040 a money peckon bit. Really really was talking about it. Yes, 0:02:04.200 --> 0:02:06.960 stop talking about it. Yes, it was exactly like that. 0:02:07.520 --> 0:02:11.160 UM so, I along with everyone else, was wondering what 0:02:11.200 --> 0:02:13.480 the heck it was. And there were some there's some 0:02:13.560 --> 0:02:19.280 leaks heading up to the the announcement of it beforehand 0:02:19.360 --> 0:02:23.360 that suggested that it was some sort of scooter, some 0:02:23.400 --> 0:02:29.639 sort of vehicle, personal vehicle and what's that a hoverboard 0:02:29.480 --> 0:02:35.040 and not no unsfortunately not a hoverboard. UM but there 0:02:35.080 --> 0:02:38.040 were people who were just scouring the patent office to 0:02:38.080 --> 0:02:39.799 try and figure out what this could be. And that's 0:02:39.840 --> 0:02:42.760 that's kind of how the news leaked. But ABC's Good 0:02:42.760 --> 0:02:47.520 Morning America. UH actually debuted this and that's when we 0:02:47.520 --> 0:02:52.040 were introduced to the segue. So, yeah, the Seguae that 0:02:52.160 --> 0:02:55.120 was that was Dean Cayman's baby. That's that's what most 0:02:55.120 --> 0:02:57.840 people probably are aware of. But he's worked on a 0:02:57.880 --> 0:03:01.560 lot of projects. The segways just really one of many. 0:03:01.880 --> 0:03:04.520 Um let's give you a little background and Mr Caman, 0:03:05.480 --> 0:03:10.520 Um he holds more than four hundred and forty US 0:03:10.560 --> 0:03:13.520 and foreign patents, so he's a busy, busy guy. It's 0:03:13.520 --> 0:03:16.520 pretty impressive. Um. He's an engineer, which means that he 0:03:16.560 --> 0:03:18.400 looks at the world as a series of problems and 0:03:18.400 --> 0:03:21.600 tries to figure out how to solve them. Uh, yes, 0:03:21.880 --> 0:03:24.600 I was. I was reading about one problem where he 0:03:24.720 --> 0:03:28.720 uh he actually saw somebody having difficulty negotiating a wheelchair 0:03:29.480 --> 0:03:32.000 up up a series of stairs, and so that resulted 0:03:32.080 --> 0:03:36.480 in a system called the Independence. I bought four thousand 0:03:36.480 --> 0:03:40.080 mobility system which is marketed by Johnson and Johnson and 0:03:40.160 --> 0:03:42.640 it it actually is very like the Segue. It's got 0:03:42.640 --> 0:03:46.840 a it balances, it's a wheelchair that balances on four 0:03:47.160 --> 0:03:51.960 smallish wheels and it sort of stands people in wheelchairs up. 0:03:53.200 --> 0:03:55.480 Is very cool. Yeah, they can actually the wheels can 0:03:55.480 --> 0:03:59.840 extend so that they're sort of balanced vertically, so the 0:04:00.000 --> 0:04:02.520 person can can be who would normally be at wheelchair 0:04:02.600 --> 0:04:06.800 height can actually elevate up to the height of an 0:04:06.800 --> 0:04:09.040 average human being, which is is that is pretty cool. 0:04:09.040 --> 0:04:12.000 I mean they talk about how people and using these 0:04:12.040 --> 0:04:15.360 chairs can do things like like give a person a 0:04:15.440 --> 0:04:17.520 hug without the person having to bend over. I mean 0:04:17.600 --> 0:04:19.200 simple things like that that a lot of us take 0:04:19.240 --> 0:04:23.600 for granted. Um, you know, it's it's actually pretty amazing. Uh. 0:04:23.640 --> 0:04:25.080 And of course it can do things like it can 0:04:25.080 --> 0:04:29.039 negotiate stairs, it can go up curbs. It's it's you 0:04:29.080 --> 0:04:31.400 have to watch videos of this thing. It is really 0:04:31.440 --> 0:04:35.240 really cool. And that does predate the segue at some 0:04:35.320 --> 0:04:38.760 of the technology that went into the eyebot later he 0:04:38.839 --> 0:04:44.200 adapted for the segue. UM. He also early on created 0:04:44.600 --> 0:04:48.240 an automatic injection device. It was actually something that that 0:04:48.279 --> 0:04:51.640 you would have surgically implanted that would uh allow you 0:04:51.800 --> 0:04:55.839 to have automatic injections and things like insulin um. I 0:04:55.839 --> 0:05:00.240 mean he's your point, Yeah, he's he's uh, he's quite 0:05:00.279 --> 0:05:02.240 remarkable in the sense that, yeah, he does look at 0:05:02.279 --> 0:05:05.160 the world and see he looks for problems that can 0:05:05.200 --> 0:05:09.440 be solved. UM and he does it through technology. Yeah, 0:05:09.440 --> 0:05:11.920 a lot of the devices he's come up with two 0:05:11.960 --> 0:05:16.720 are are in the medical field. He's especially fond of 0:05:17.120 --> 0:05:22.240 medical projects. UM. But he's his experience doesn't end there. UM. 0:05:22.360 --> 0:05:28.799 He's not justin ventor. He also encourages UM technology technological education. 0:05:28.920 --> 0:05:32.080 Oh yeah, he's a huge proponent of that. UM. As 0:05:32.080 --> 0:05:33.760 a matter of fact, we have it. He's the founder 0:05:33.760 --> 0:05:38.839 of First, which is a technic technology competition for for kids. 0:05:38.839 --> 0:05:41.960 We actually have an article on how First works. UM. 0:05:42.520 --> 0:05:44.520 And uh, you know so that that was one of 0:05:44.520 --> 0:05:47.240 the projects. So it's it's not just something that he's 0:05:47.279 --> 0:05:51.320 doing for his own personal glory and and uh for 0:05:51.360 --> 0:05:53.600 the money. It's you know, he's encouraging other people to 0:05:53.640 --> 0:05:56.680 get into it as well. Right, Yeah, actually lives better. 0:05:56.960 --> 0:05:59.760 I watched the video about him talking about First. First 0:06:00.040 --> 0:06:04.840 stands for for inspiration and recognition of science and technology, 0:06:05.120 --> 0:06:10.000 and it's it's an interesting approach. His his perspective was 0:06:10.080 --> 0:06:15.280 that the solution that we're trying to create in order 0:06:15.320 --> 0:06:18.440 to to get kids better educated in science and technology, 0:06:18.440 --> 0:06:20.080 because you know, the United States used to be the 0:06:20.200 --> 0:06:23.279 leader in science and tech, you know, the world leader. 0:06:23.760 --> 0:06:27.560 Everyone looked to us for innovation, and now that's starting 0:06:27.560 --> 0:06:29.720 to slip. There's a lot of innovation out of Europe, 0:06:29.720 --> 0:06:34.279 there's tons in Japan, and and science education in general 0:06:34.320 --> 0:06:37.240 in the United States doesn't seem to be faring all 0:06:37.279 --> 0:06:41.120 that well. So Cayman's approach was to create first, and 0:06:41.120 --> 0:06:44.560 he said, the way we're trying to solve the problem 0:06:44.640 --> 0:06:47.960 right now is we're throwing resources at it, like more, 0:06:47.960 --> 0:06:51.760 more teachers, more money. But his point of view was 0:06:51.800 --> 0:06:54.560 that it wasn't a resource problem. It wasn't that it 0:06:54.640 --> 0:06:59.640 was a demand problem that children weren't demanding science education. 0:06:59.640 --> 0:07:02.640 They didn't and see it as important. Um for one thing, 0:07:02.680 --> 0:07:07.719 it was a it's a cultural uh problem. Our culture 0:07:08.120 --> 0:07:13.480 tends to value things like celebrity or athletic ability, and 0:07:13.600 --> 0:07:18.800 so without that cultural foundation to value things like science 0:07:18.800 --> 0:07:22.200 and technology and innovation, you can't expect children to really 0:07:22.280 --> 0:07:26.320 embrace that sort of education. So even if you have 0:07:26.400 --> 0:07:28.240 the best education in the world, that the kid isn't 0:07:28.280 --> 0:07:33.400 engaged you, there's no benefit. So his approach is first, 0:07:33.440 --> 0:07:37.200 where it's this series of competitions where he gets kids excited. 0:07:37.480 --> 0:07:40.520 He tells them there's a way that you can compete. 0:07:40.520 --> 0:07:42.960 You can show how how smart you are, you can 0:07:43.040 --> 0:07:45.280 really look at a problem figure out the best way 0:07:45.280 --> 0:07:47.760 to solve it. Your approach is going to be totally 0:07:47.760 --> 0:07:50.960 different from everyone else's approach and it may change the world. 0:07:51.480 --> 0:07:55.120 And taking that he's really expanded this this program quite 0:07:55.120 --> 0:07:58.880 a bit. It it grew exponentially year over year, like 0:07:58.960 --> 0:08:01.440 the original one I think of, like you know, um 0:08:01.960 --> 0:08:06.040 thirteen schools, but recently he's been filling up the Georgia 0:08:06.080 --> 0:08:09.200 Dome with the last time I looked at it was 0:08:09.240 --> 0:08:14.760 around thirteen thousand schools involved in this program. It's amazing 0:08:15.120 --> 0:08:18.960 and it's it's really really one of the reasons why 0:08:18.960 --> 0:08:21.640 I wanted to kind of focus on him today because 0:08:22.200 --> 0:08:25.200 um as as Chris pointed out, he's he's not just 0:08:25.360 --> 0:08:29.880 an inventor. He's encouraging this kind of approach, in this 0:08:29.960 --> 0:08:33.719 kind of worldview among others, which you know, I mean, 0:08:33.800 --> 0:08:36.480 an inventor is great. We need them, We need those 0:08:36.480 --> 0:08:38.680 people to come up with these great ideas. But once 0:08:38.720 --> 0:08:42.800 they're gone, what do you do. He wants to encourage 0:08:42.840 --> 0:08:46.440 this so that we have a generation of inventors, which 0:08:46.440 --> 0:08:48.800 would be amazing. That would be amazing. Maybe we'd get 0:08:48.800 --> 0:08:52.280 our flying cars. You in the flying car I want 0:08:52.280 --> 0:08:57.640 my flying car. Well, UM, you know, the the innovation 0:08:57.760 --> 0:09:02.920 that Mr Kaman has UH has created in the industry, 0:09:02.960 --> 0:09:06.200 and the fact that he has tried to inspire others 0:09:06.280 --> 0:09:11.720 to invent encouraged UH President Clinton to award Mr Cayman 0:09:11.760 --> 0:09:14.680 the National Medal of Technology in two thousand, So he 0:09:14.720 --> 0:09:18.200 has been recognized for his efforts. UM. And you know, 0:09:18.280 --> 0:09:20.840 I know personally that will I'll be happier with a 0:09:20.880 --> 0:09:24.200 generation of adventage when the giant robots come to enslave us, right, 0:09:24.280 --> 0:09:26.200 We'll have somebody who knows how to build something that 0:09:26.240 --> 0:09:27.920 will guess out of that. It's actually kind of funny 0:09:27.960 --> 0:09:31.360 that you mentioned that, because you know that, UM. One 0:09:31.400 --> 0:09:36.120 of his more recent projects was something that robot. You're 0:09:36.160 --> 0:09:41.240 getting ahead of me here, let's pull it up that UM. No, 0:09:41.440 --> 0:09:47.520 the the Defense Advanced Research Projects Agency or DARPA UH 0:09:47.679 --> 0:09:52.120 approached Mr Caman a couple of years ago and they 0:09:52.160 --> 0:09:57.120 had a task for him, and they said what they needed. UM. 0:09:57.160 --> 0:10:00.560 They said that that that that medical to technology had 0:10:00.600 --> 0:10:03.480 advanced at such a rate that when soldiers are in 0:10:03.520 --> 0:10:06.400 the field and they get injured, they there are a 0:10:06.440 --> 0:10:08.480 lot more survivors than there used to be. I mean 0:10:08.679 --> 0:10:12.320 you read about these casualty rates in Iraq, for example, 0:10:12.360 --> 0:10:15.400 and they seem really really high, but there's an even 0:10:15.520 --> 0:10:18.760 higher number of people who are wounded rather than you know, 0:10:19.120 --> 0:10:22.080 sure killed, but we're able to save their lives. But 0:10:22.120 --> 0:10:26.760 the problem is that the technology for dealing with life 0:10:26.880 --> 0:10:31.880 after injury hasn't really kept up with everything else. So 0:10:32.080 --> 0:10:34.959 essentially we're talking about prosthetics here if you've lost an 0:10:35.080 --> 0:10:37.880 arm um. And that's in fact what DARPA came to 0:10:37.920 --> 0:10:42.439 talk to Cayman about. They said, we need an artificial arm, 0:10:43.040 --> 0:10:46.280 a robotic arm that weighs the same as the average 0:10:46.360 --> 0:10:49.480 human arm um, that is the same length as the 0:10:49.520 --> 0:10:53.560 average human arm uh, and that has the ability to 0:10:53.559 --> 0:10:56.319 to do things like pick up a grape or a 0:10:56.440 --> 0:10:59.360 raisin and be able to tell the difference, to be 0:10:59.440 --> 0:11:01.920 able to pick up up grape without crushing it. Um, 0:11:02.000 --> 0:11:04.439 to be able to have the fine motor skills of 0:11:04.480 --> 0:11:07.000 picking up something as small as a raisin um. And 0:11:07.000 --> 0:11:10.199 they said, we needed in two years and we'll give 0:11:10.200 --> 0:11:13.000 you eighteen million dollars to do it. And came in said, 0:11:13.120 --> 0:11:16.319 you guys are nuts, that's just how are you going 0:11:16.360 --> 0:11:18.920 to How am I supposed to build something that has 0:11:18.960 --> 0:11:22.680 the same amount of articulation as a human arm for 0:11:22.760 --> 0:11:26.520 eighteen million dollars in two years. But he visited some veterans, 0:11:26.559 --> 0:11:29.640 he talked to some people, and he he really kind 0:11:29.640 --> 0:11:34.880 of saw the value of the project, even though technologically 0:11:34.960 --> 0:11:39.000 it looked impossible. And so that's where the Luke Arm 0:11:39.240 --> 0:11:41.240 project came out of. And you know where where that 0:11:41.320 --> 0:11:44.160 name comes from, right, I'm guessing it maybe a Star 0:11:44.200 --> 0:11:47.440 Wars reference. In fact, you are correct, sir, is a 0:11:47.440 --> 0:11:49.680 Star Wars reference. But you were talking about giant robots, 0:11:49.720 --> 0:11:52.760 And the reason why I wanted to go back to 0:11:52.840 --> 0:11:55.560 that was because the arm. If you've seen the videos 0:11:55.559 --> 0:11:58.520 of the arm, it resembles the arm of a certain 0:11:59.040 --> 0:12:06.839 famous robotic creature Um who now governs California. No way, 0:12:06.880 --> 0:12:11.680 I'm mixing up actors and characters, but uh yeah, it's 0:12:11.800 --> 0:12:14.439 it looks like the Terminator arm um. And in fact, 0:12:14.640 --> 0:12:19.720 apparently in Cayman's uh over A DECA d e k A, 0:12:19.800 --> 0:12:24.199 which is Cayman's company, they have a full sized Terminator 0:12:24.880 --> 0:12:28.360 uh standing there with one of these arms attached from 0:12:28.400 --> 0:12:33.320 place of its normal arm. Yeah, And he's used several 0:12:33.360 --> 0:12:36.679 different methods to try and fine tune the controls. Some 0:12:36.720 --> 0:12:40.400 of them are rely on on thoughts, some of them 0:12:40.559 --> 0:12:44.600 rely on a control system that's in the person's shoes. 0:12:44.920 --> 0:12:48.960 They use their toes essentially to control their arm. Um. Interesting. Yeah, 0:12:49.040 --> 0:12:52.000 he's still working on that the project though. There are 0:12:52.160 --> 0:12:54.640 videos out there on the web. I encourage all of 0:12:54.679 --> 0:12:57.360 you too to find these videos and watch them. They 0:12:57.400 --> 0:13:02.000 are phenomenal. Um. And he's he's hope, he's hoping that 0:13:02.040 --> 0:13:04.520 he can get the program extended so that they can 0:13:04.559 --> 0:13:07.280 do the work that's necessary to finish the project, because 0:13:07.600 --> 0:13:10.359 two years is a very short time to go from 0:13:10.520 --> 0:13:14.400 from the initiation of a project to design to implementation 0:13:15.400 --> 0:13:19.800 right now. Yeah, yeah, I mean you've got to understand, like, like, 0:13:19.880 --> 0:13:21.839 when you think about that, how do you power something 0:13:21.880 --> 0:13:24.880 like that? Right? Like, how do you get battery small 0:13:25.040 --> 0:13:26.960 enough to move that? How do you get the motors 0:13:26.960 --> 0:13:30.040 small enough? The human arm has twenty two points of articulation. 0:13:30.480 --> 0:13:34.760 His has eighteen, So that's not bad, it's it's pretty 0:13:34.880 --> 0:13:38.600 it's pretty close. Um but yeah, you when you figure 0:13:38.640 --> 0:13:41.880 that in, he's really had to bend his mind around 0:13:41.960 --> 0:13:45.280 some big problems to try and make that happen. And uh, 0:13:46.040 --> 0:13:48.840 I couldn't do it. I wouldn't even know the first 0:13:48.880 --> 0:13:52.600 place to start. Um. But right now, the way it's designed, 0:13:52.760 --> 0:13:55.720 you couldn't really do a mass production. It's the materials 0:13:55.720 --> 0:13:59.320 are far too expensive. Um. Because you know he's he's 0:13:59.400 --> 0:14:01.360 working on a roof of concept to make sure that 0:14:01.760 --> 0:14:04.600 it can be done. Once you determine how it can 0:14:04.640 --> 0:14:06.320 be done, then you have to figure out, okay, well 0:14:06.320 --> 0:14:10.560 how can this be done economically where you know it 0:14:10.640 --> 0:14:14.400 makes sense to to continue the project. So that's probably 0:14:14.440 --> 0:14:17.560 their next big, big hurdle. It's kind of the same 0:14:17.559 --> 0:14:20.760 way with the segway. You know, I'm sure you remember. 0:14:20.800 --> 0:14:23.960 It was supposed to revolutionize the world, you know, but 0:14:24.000 --> 0:14:26.240 the problem is that our infrastructure doesn't really support it 0:14:26.560 --> 0:14:30.160 and they're really expensive. Well there's that, but you know 0:14:30.240 --> 0:14:33.320 you're expensive. You'd think, well if it if if there 0:14:33.360 --> 0:14:37.840 were pathways for segways, then it wouldn't be as big 0:14:37.840 --> 0:14:40.680 a deal. But there how do you figure that out? 0:14:40.720 --> 0:14:42.320 I mean, the city, each city is going to have 0:14:42.360 --> 0:14:44.240 a different take on this. Are they gonna want people 0:14:44.960 --> 0:14:48.240 zooming around on the sidewalks or on the street. You 0:14:48.360 --> 0:14:51.280 have to that people are going to be responsible and 0:14:51.400 --> 0:14:54.200 drive their segways and ways. That does not cause them 0:14:54.240 --> 0:14:58.040 to pitch off into the bushes, right like a certain 0:14:58.520 --> 0:15:02.440 world leader I refused to mention me right, okay, um 0:15:03.800 --> 0:15:06.320 or lots of other people. It just happens. He's the 0:15:06.320 --> 0:15:09.440 same as that one world leader has been one of 0:15:09.440 --> 0:15:12.120 the famous people who fell off the device that is 0:15:12.120 --> 0:15:17.440 exhossible to fall off of. It turns out not so Yeah, 0:15:17.480 --> 0:15:21.479 with the right determination, you can do it. But um 0:15:21.520 --> 0:15:23.640 but yeah, I mean, and they were working on other 0:15:23.680 --> 0:15:28.200 projects like the centaur, the concept four wheels segue which 0:15:28.240 --> 0:15:30.480 you could actually stand up on the back wheels, very 0:15:30.520 --> 0:15:33.160 much like the Yeah, it wasn't that they were thinking 0:15:33.160 --> 0:15:36.240 about that from military applications too, aren't they. Yes, Yeah, yeah, 0:15:36.280 --> 0:15:39.560 I remember reading about that. Um yeah that was that 0:15:39.640 --> 0:15:42.240 was kind of curious where that project is now? Yeah, 0:15:42.280 --> 0:15:45.120 it's I checked this morning as we were doing research 0:15:45.160 --> 0:15:46.520 for the podcast, and I did not see it on 0:15:46.520 --> 0:15:51.080 their website, so you know, on the back burner. Yeah, 0:15:51.200 --> 0:15:55.280 it was a concept. Um. But actually as of this morning, 0:15:55.320 --> 0:15:57.880 as we were doing research, I ran across a brand 0:15:57.920 --> 0:16:03.400 new project UH. On September, UH Dean Cayman was supposed 0:16:03.440 --> 0:16:08.240 to be working with Nokia, the cell phone manufacturer from Finland, 0:16:08.960 --> 0:16:12.440 UH to announce a calling all innovators competition. According to 0:16:12.440 --> 0:16:15.160 this article I'm I saw on c net UH, it's 0:16:15.200 --> 0:16:19.560 basically a project to deliver water purification to UH to 0:16:19.840 --> 0:16:24.680 individual communities for for less than two thousand dollars each 0:16:24.720 --> 0:16:27.480 once they get into mass production UM to quote the 0:16:27.480 --> 0:16:31.400 scene an article UM, And essentially they're they're trying to 0:16:31.400 --> 0:16:34.440 get people to come up with inexpensive ways that this 0:16:34.480 --> 0:16:37.680 could be delivered UH to two people to improve their 0:16:37.720 --> 0:16:41.640 quality of life. So you know yet another UM you know, 0:16:41.840 --> 0:16:45.560 health related project innovation, you know, something that that could 0:16:45.560 --> 0:16:48.680 simplify a very difficult problem to overcome. Yeah, I think 0:16:48.680 --> 0:16:51.560 this actually came out of I remember reading that he 0:16:51.800 --> 0:16:57.520 was looking into low cost generators UM energy generators for 0:16:57.520 --> 0:17:03.240 for UM community that otherwise don't have them, and they 0:17:03.280 --> 0:17:05.480 put off a lot of heat, and so he's thinking, 0:17:05.480 --> 0:17:08.520 how can I use this heat that's otherwise just going 0:17:08.560 --> 0:17:11.199 to waste, and that he used that to kind of 0:17:11.200 --> 0:17:15.040 look into a water purification system. So UM, you know 0:17:15.440 --> 0:17:18.240 it's interesting that he looks at he it's when a 0:17:18.240 --> 0:17:21.040 project finished, it's not really finished because he says, what 0:17:21.080 --> 0:17:23.360 else can I do with this? Which is another good 0:17:23.520 --> 0:17:26.760 mark of an innovator. Um, but I got my information 0:17:26.800 --> 0:17:29.760 from the Coldbert rapport, so I you know, I only 0:17:30.080 --> 0:17:36.160 I only look at the the satirical sources of information. Apparently, Well, 0:17:36.320 --> 0:17:38.320 I guess that's a you know, that's a good portrait 0:17:38.359 --> 0:17:41.720 of Dean Caman right there. Definitely look into him a 0:17:41.800 --> 0:17:44.040 little more. He's an interesting person. If you ever get 0:17:44.040 --> 0:17:47.000 a chance to hear him speak, I recommend it because 0:17:47.040 --> 0:17:50.240 he he does really convey that sense of excitement and 0:17:50.359 --> 0:17:54.919 purpose far better than I ever couldn't. But don't go 0:17:54.960 --> 0:17:58.560 away yet, because when we come back, we're gonna tell 0:17:58.600 --> 0:18:00.360 you a little bit about an article that it makes 0:18:00.400 --> 0:18:05.720 our co worker Josh Clark yell out, great Scott. 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It's because it 0:18:50.000 --> 0:18:54.480 tweaks his flux capacitor. I figured, since we're talking about innovators, 0:18:54.520 --> 0:18:56.960 we couldn't leave Doc Brown out of it, right, right? 0:18:57.040 --> 0:18:58.600 Do you think there's any way to get a segue 0:18:58.680 --> 0:19:00.960 up to eighty eight miles? And I sure hope not. 0:19:01.560 --> 0:19:02.720 But if you want to know how to get a 0:19:02.760 --> 0:19:04.959 Dolorea enough to eight eight hour, you can read How 0:19:04.960 --> 0:19:07.680 the DeLorean Works. That's live right now on how stuff 0:19:07.680 --> 0:19:12.240 works dot com. Let us know what you think. Send 0:19:12.280 --> 0:19:19.920 an email to podcasts at how stuff works dot com. 0:19:20.040 --> 0:19:22.600 Brought to you by the reinvented two thousand twelve camera. 0:19:22.920 --> 0:19:24.120 It's ready, are you