Speaker 1: In twenty twenty six, something that has not happened in
Speaker 1: thousands of years is happening, which is sadder in the
Speaker 1: planet of structure and Neptune, which is the planet of dreams.
Speaker 1: They are meeting at zero degrees areas on February twentieth,
Speaker 1: the very first degree of the zodiac. So it's almost
Speaker 1: like this great reason beginning happening. Yeah.
Speaker 2: Today, we've got the incredible AstroTwins joining me Ofira and
Speaker 2: tally Edits. They are twin astrologers, best selling authors, and
Speaker 2: founders of Astro Style. They've helped millions of people use
Speaker 2: astrology as a tool for understanding themselves, their purpose, and
Speaker 2: their relationships.
Speaker 1: But we measure mercury is actually going backwards to the
Speaker 1: degrees that we count it. The things that mercury rules,
Speaker 1: which are technology, transportation, communication, will go backwards as well.
Speaker 2: I'm Radi w Kiah and on my podcast A Really
Speaker 2: Good Cry, we embrace the messy and the beautiful, providing
Speaker 2: a space for raw, unfielded conversations that celebrate vulnerability, allow
Speaker 2: you to tune in, to learn, connect and find comfort together.
Speaker 2: Thank you both so much for being here. I am
Speaker 2: honestly so excited to speak to you. I read through
Speaker 2: your book and honestly, I have so many questions that
Speaker 2: I want to ask you.
Speaker 3: But first, thank you for being here.
Speaker 1: So excited to be here too.
Speaker 2: So my first question is actually unrelated to astrology, and
Speaker 2: it's like, what is it like being twins?
Speaker 1: I mean, we don't know anything else. It's like we say,
Speaker 1: it's like being being like born married. Anyways, yea, the
Speaker 1: built in best friend partnership. I know we've shared a
Speaker 1: bank account, a piggy bank. Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 3: Have you ever pretended to be one another a couple times? Okay?
Speaker 1: Nice classes. Yes, never switched boyfriends. Everyone always asks that, But.
Speaker 3: That's a nice line to draw, right.
Speaker 1: Wefinitely draw the line there, although we've been asked.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I do think that there's something as soon as
Speaker 2: I think about twins, I do think of something that
Speaker 2: feels very spiritual and something that feels very connected. Obviously,
Speaker 2: And did you find from a young age that you
Speaker 2: guys had a different connection to how other people would
Speaker 2: describe their sibling relationship?
Speaker 1: For sure, we used we had our own language, even
Speaker 1: remember a little bit of it. It's like we Yeah,
Speaker 1: I think it's just very lucky. You always have someone
Speaker 1: who's I mean, sometimes when you're going through something and
Speaker 1: you are not wanting to be in that phase like
Speaker 1: you know, adolescence of course, like oh there's a mirror
Speaker 1: all the time, right, but it makes you very self aware. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I bet. Basically, yeah, I'd always someone to process stuff with.
Speaker 3: And so that's been good, so lovely.
Speaker 2: I know I have a sister, not twins, but definitely
Speaker 2: appreciate sibling relationships, and especially when you get older and older,
Speaker 2: you feel like you value them so much more. How
Speaker 2: did you both get into astrology? Like, how did that
Speaker 2: come about? Yeah?
Speaker 1: It was it was an accident. My college boyfriend many
Speaker 1: years ago gave me a birth chart as a gift
Speaker 1: for my twenty first game US A birth chart four
Speaker 1: minutes apart. Was only the tiniest difference, but not enough
Speaker 1: to matter there. So yeah, I mean we had been
Speaker 1: kind of interested in, oh we're Sagittarius. That does sound
Speaker 1: like us, but then the full birth chart was like
Speaker 1: whoa this is? And we discovered because the birth chart
Speaker 1: is a map of where every single planet is when
Speaker 1: you're born. Most people only know where the sun was
Speaker 1: in the zodiac.
Speaker 2: Okay, but that where Sagittarius yes, yeah, people say what's
Speaker 2: your sign, like where was the sun positioned in the sky?
Speaker 1: That's in relation to the Earth, but the moon is
Speaker 1: you know, only someone born in the same minute, in
Speaker 1: the same time zone as you will share the exact chart.
Speaker 1: Even we four minutes a part of a slightly different
Speaker 1: chart as twins. Very very subtle, but it shows up
Speaker 1: in the kinds of friends we pick the guys that
Speaker 1: we dated, and so that is actually helpful, I guess,
Speaker 1: you know. It was really shocking how descriptive. It was
Speaker 1: like a thirty page booklet, and I was like, this
Speaker 1: is just way too uncanny to be an accident. So
Speaker 1: we just learned how to do our friends and yeah,
Speaker 1: it was just was like, okay, things do come with instructions.
Speaker 2: What do you know and what are some of the
Speaker 2: things that you feel people don't really know that they
Speaker 2: can actually be that can be revealed to them through
Speaker 2: learning the astrology.
Speaker 1: I think one of the biggest things is your core
Speaker 1: destiny and purpose. Using the north and south nodes, they're
Speaker 1: called Rahu and ke To in Vedic or cabalistic astrology,
Speaker 1: looks at them. There's two points in the chart that
Speaker 1: are based on where the eclipses were happening essentially closest
Speaker 1: to your time of birth, and they're in opposite signs,
Speaker 1: the lunar nodes, and you know they change every eighteen months.
Speaker 1: So you kind of come in with the soul group.
Speaker 1: You can see what your comfort zone is and what
Speaker 1: your you know, your destiny is karmic growth area.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so it's a really great thing to help if
Speaker 2: someone feels lost in their life or if they feel
Speaker 2: like they don't know what that purpose is.
Speaker 3: Those two things can many.
Speaker 1: A tendencies that might you know, in our example, we
Speaker 1: have a cancer south note, so we kind of default
Speaker 1: into being you know, domestic. We like to you know,
Speaker 1: be in our bubbles, creating, and we're always surrounded by
Speaker 1: you've done a lot of pro women work. Cancer is
Speaker 1: the sign of women. But then our north note is Capricorns.
Speaker 1: We get pushed to taking that out into the business world,
Speaker 1: which is what Capricorn is about. So knowing that that's
Speaker 1: been a lot of women leaders. So sometimes you'll be
Speaker 1: struggling and you don't know if it's because you're doing
Speaker 1: the wrong thing or because you're supposed to learn something.
Speaker 1: Chart can show you are you struggling because Oh, you
Speaker 1: need to like do a little more of this, little
Speaker 1: less of that. And it's been a really good dining system.
Speaker 1: We are. Nobody has a perfect chart, no one has
Speaker 1: a lucky chart. Necessarily. There are things you can see
Speaker 1: where you'll be challenged more. But I feel like our
Speaker 1: souls maybe sign up for that. Wow.
Speaker 2: And you mentioned badich astrology. That's the only kind of
Speaker 2: astrology that I grew up knowing. I don't really know much,
Speaker 2: but my mom would always follow certain things to do
Speaker 2: with it. I had my birth chat down when I
Speaker 2: was a baby, and she always reads it to me, like.
Speaker 3: Every year to remind me.
Speaker 2: Yeah, she does do that, And actually it was weirdly accurate.
Speaker 2: It spoke about that I was going to move abroad.
Speaker 2: It spoke about me even having a job where I
Speaker 2: would be watched by a lot of people, lots of
Speaker 2: lots of interesting things, which when I was younger, I
Speaker 2: was like, there's no way I'm moving abroad.
Speaker 3: I love where I live. I'm never going to go.
Speaker 2: And that was something I never wanted to do, but
Speaker 2: it ended up happening. One of the main differences between
Speaker 2: the two West and Western astrology and Vada gastrology.
Speaker 1: Yeah, in Western astrology, it's more based on geometry, not
Speaker 1: the constellations. The constellations have shifted about twenty four degrees.
Speaker 1: But in Vedic it actually the signs have you know
Speaker 1: when you read those articles that come out every so often,
Speaker 1: like your zodiacs on is different. It's actually true in
Speaker 1: Vedic astrology because the constellations have moved and it follows that,
Speaker 1: whereas Western astrology follows the seasons. The first you know,
Speaker 1: first day of spring starts the zodiac zero degrees arees.
Speaker 2: So wow, and then you said that you're mentioning that
Speaker 2: things can change every eighteen months or something. So whatever
Speaker 2: you're born with, so that doesn't just stay as a.
Speaker 1: Well it does. It's like what your birth chart is
Speaker 1: is basically a selfie of the sky overhead, your mone
Speaker 1: of birth when you see the wheels, what you're looking
Speaker 1: at is imagine, I always say, imagine yourself lying on
Speaker 1: a blanket looking up at the stars at your moment
Speaker 1: of birth and just freeze framing what you saw overhead,
Speaker 1: or looking with the telescope and what you see in
Speaker 1: the telescope ring the arrangement the pattern of the planets
Speaker 1: around where you are on Earth at your moment of
Speaker 1: birth is what our chart is, the Western chart.
Speaker 3: That's a really nice way of putting it.
Speaker 2: I just imagine myself as a baby.
Speaker 1: And they all move through the zodiac at different speeds.
Speaker 1: So the Sun stays in a sign for thirty days,
Speaker 1: the moon two and a half days, the ascendant two hours,
Speaker 1: Mercury three weeks, and the further out you go from
Speaker 1: the Sun, the like Pluto will stay and assign for
Speaker 1: twelve to thirty years. So you'll share a lot of
Speaker 1: generational The generations tend to have similar groupings, Like all
Speaker 1: the millennials have a lot of the outer planets in Capricorn,
Speaker 1: this like heavy burden of responsibility and you know, girl
Speaker 1: bossing to create the sun or whatever you have. The
Speaker 1: boomers have a lot of Leo and cancers of the
Speaker 1: family duty and all the kind of what's the shadows
Speaker 1: side of Leo of being sort of self involved that
Speaker 1: they're accused of that sort of thing.
Speaker 3: So, yeah, this is so fascinating.
Speaker 2: Okay, tell me more about the planets because obviously we're talking,
Speaker 2: so is everything based around different planets and what do
Speaker 2: different planet If you could pick a few of the
Speaker 2: planets that really create the most impact.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm glad you asked that because we have spent
Speaker 1: so much time trying to figure out how to explain this.
Speaker 3: Okay, great, Yeah.
Speaker 1: We even have a code of course we do once
Speaker 1: a year called become your Own Astrologer, and we talk
Speaker 1: about it with the movie metaphors. So we talk about
Speaker 1: the planets being like the actors in the movie of
Speaker 1: your life, like your soul I believe, picks the exact
Speaker 1: moment to be born, so it gets this cosmic with
Speaker 1: all the strengths and challenges and opportunities to evolve. So
Speaker 1: the planets are like the actors the movie of your Life.
Speaker 1: The Sun is the main character, so we're Sagittarius. Our
Speaker 1: main character is going to have the traits of that.
Speaker 1: And then the zodiac signs that they're in are like
Speaker 1: the roles they're playing, the costumes they're wearing, that sort
Speaker 1: of thing.
Speaker 2: Wow, and can astrology tell someone like what detail can
Speaker 2: astrology go into?
Speaker 1: I know you said, yeah, very specific, Yeah, especially the moon.
Speaker 1: So we really started getting obsessed when we learned that
Speaker 1: we had a moon in Scorpio, which explained so the
Speaker 1: moon is if the sun is the main character, the
Speaker 1: moon is like the private backstage you know, best supporting, yeah,
Speaker 1: or like the Ma Mager kind of of your chart,
Speaker 1: like do this, do more of this? You know, only
Speaker 1: the people who know you closely will really know your
Speaker 1: moon sign, but it has so much influence over you. Yeah,
Speaker 1: the moon, and I think more and more is people
Speaker 1: become more comfortable talking about their feelings and trauma and
Speaker 1: attachment syles. Our moon signs are kind of showing up
Speaker 1: more and more. But Moon and Scorpio for us was like, whoa, yeah,
Speaker 1: I do have these like deep feelings that I don't
Speaker 1: want every I'm not just as Sagittarius wild child, you know.
Speaker 1: And so that and then we actually have Mercury which
Speaker 1: is communication, Venus which is love, and creativity in Mars
Speaker 1: which is your drive, and Scorpio too. So that was
Speaker 1: what when I read that, I was like, oh my god,
Speaker 1: I wonder we want to solve every mystery people tick.
Speaker 1: So yeah, that's what happens. As people see their charts.
Speaker 1: They discover these dimensions themselves that don't always go neatly together,
Speaker 1: and we divide it between the inner planets, the personal planets,
Speaker 1: and the outer planets. So that's so easier grouping to
Speaker 1: think of it, the inner planets Mercury, so the Sun
Speaker 1: and Moon we call the planets in astrology Mercury, Venus,
Speaker 1: and Mars. They move pretty quickly through the zodiac, so
Speaker 1: they influence the way you would deal with people. When
Speaker 1: someone wants to love reading, we look at that or
Speaker 1: day life. But then the outer planets when you're looking
Speaker 1: at your bigger purpose. You know, Jupiter will show where
Speaker 1: you're lucky, and every twelve years, Jupiter will return to
Speaker 1: where it was when you're born. And you have this,
Speaker 1: you may have moved here on one of your Jupiter returns.
Speaker 2: Yes, I've had about Jupiter time. I definitely I was
Speaker 2: going through that phase when I was moving.
Speaker 1: Oh of course, there you go. See. And then Saturn
Speaker 1: the Saturn return. Saturn takes twenty nine and a half
Speaker 1: years to go through all the signs and return to
Speaker 1: where it was when you were born. So around just
Speaker 1: before thirty people kind of go through this right of
Speaker 1: passage where you're like, Okay, I'm going to be an
Speaker 1: adult now I'm going to take this on and to
Speaker 1: explain that. So your chart never changes. But where astrologers
Speaker 1: become oracles is we do what's called a by wheel,
Speaker 1: So you wrap a second chart around your birth chart,
Speaker 1: and it's almost like the ticking clock moving, so you
Speaker 1: can see the planet's moving and activating parts of your
Speaker 1: chart as they move, so you'll have cycles and phases
Speaker 1: where certain things will happen. You can also do that
Speaker 1: with a couple or a business partner. You can take
Speaker 1: one chart and another layer them and see where they activate,
Speaker 1: and you can combine the two charts. One of our
Speaker 1: books is called Super Couple, where every relationship has a
Speaker 1: third chart that's a blend of the two as well.
Speaker 1: So it's endlessly fascinating.
Speaker 2: And if people come to you with specific questions, Okay,
Speaker 2: let's say someone gives you their talk, can you do
Speaker 2: everything from know whether they're going to get a job,
Speaker 2: to know when they're going to die, to like what
Speaker 2: if you wanted to?
Speaker 3: Could you know you wanted to?
Speaker 1: You might be able to predict that. But I don't
Speaker 1: think anyone not predict is what I like to say.
Speaker 1: Like think of it as like your life is like
Speaker 1: a long highway and there's entrances and exits, so something
Speaker 1: could happen, but I don't. I think that we have
Speaker 1: free will and our souls have some decisions, so don't
Speaker 1: I don't ever like to predict a death, Like what
Speaker 1: good is it going to do? You tell someone that
Speaker 1: you know? People want to know. Some people will do it,
Speaker 1: and some people will you know. But I think, okay,
Speaker 1: if someone wanted to change jobs, we could definitely look
Speaker 1: and be like next year is a much more favorable
Speaker 1: cycle between these months, and it gives people validation and relief.
Speaker 1: Often they're already thinking that way and oh good, I
Speaker 1: didn't want to do that till March. You just made
Speaker 1: me feel okay about making this decision.
Speaker 2: So I find most people come to you when they've
Speaker 2: got a problem or issue or worry or can should
Speaker 2: people be getting their charts to ride regularly?
Speaker 1: I think people come to us for two reasons. One
Speaker 1: is if they just want to know their basic cosmic blueprint,
Speaker 1: never had their birth chart done. They want to know
Speaker 1: who am I according to the stars, what's here for me?
Speaker 1: And then another way is you know, timing of a
Speaker 1: crossroads or a decision or planning to help. We like
Speaker 1: to help people with planning or oh, someone came back
Speaker 1: into your life from your past, what's going on? How
Speaker 1: should you handle it? It's usually is something that they're like, Okay,
Speaker 1: I can't really figure this one out on my own.
Speaker 1: Maybe it would be good to get a little guy almost.
Speaker 1: I mean, you could literally work with an astrologer every
Speaker 1: week basically.
Speaker 3: Right, Yeah, if some people really do that.
Speaker 1: We have some clients that we clients, businesses, teams that
Speaker 1: we died regularly, but we try to give people some
Speaker 1: of the tools to figure that out themselves too.
Speaker 3: And you mentioned free will.
Speaker 2: I would love to know, because I think that's always
Speaker 2: the debate where what if I end up being told
Speaker 2: all these things about my astrology and then I'm waiting
Speaker 2: for them to happen, and I'm I have a friend who, oh,
Speaker 2: you're going to meet your partner is going to be
Speaker 2: with the name like the big first that is going
Speaker 2: to be Ja.
Speaker 3: Let's just say.
Speaker 2: And then every person that she meets with the letter
Speaker 2: J and she's like, face might be oh god, yeah,
Speaker 2: she is definitely him. They said it was gonna be Ja,
Speaker 2: they said it's gonna have dark hair. Absolutely, this is
Speaker 2: my guy. And so I guess my question is how
Speaker 2: does one take on astrology without it becoming something that
Speaker 2: they are too dependent on and molding their life towards it.
Speaker 1: Absolutely. We like to say we advise using astrology as
Speaker 1: a tool, not a rule. Nobody knows that. The idea
Speaker 1: of learning your chart and learning how it works is
Speaker 1: to expand your consciousness, and as you expand your consciousness,
Speaker 1: you gain free will. I make the metaphor of like,
Speaker 1: say you get a new phone, you take it out
Speaker 1: of the box, you don't really know how to use
Speaker 1: all the features. As you learn how it's operating system works,
Speaker 1: you gain more ability to do things with that phone.
Speaker 1: But you don't just go phone, tell me how to
Speaker 1: live my life. So I think that's a misuse of astrology. Yes,
Speaker 1: we really discourage people from being exactly we'll see in
Speaker 1: a year. But yeah, you don't want to have an
Speaker 1: astrologer and be dependent, because then you're not doing the
Speaker 1: work the stars mean. For I think the planets and
Speaker 1: stars wants to co create our lives with them, not
Speaker 1: just be like, show me what to do. I'll be
Speaker 1: hiding for three weeks. Mercury's Red Year. I met my
Speaker 1: husband a friend of ours who's psychic. She was like,
Speaker 1: I see an aries coming for you, surrounded by boxes.
Speaker 1: So I was like, oh my god, and so I
Speaker 1: met a guy, an Aries, guy who I thought was cute.
Speaker 1: He was moving and you know, but the book says
Speaker 1: boxes boxes. And then I met a guy at my
Speaker 1: yoga class and we went out and he was in construction,
Speaker 1: and then I was like, oh my god, screw, this
Speaker 1: is not going to happen. And I just was like
Speaker 1: I went to Burning Man that year. I was like,
Speaker 1: I'm just gonna have fun. And then I get there
Speaker 1: and this guy is like building a geodesic dome and
Speaker 1: water filtration for our camp and I was like, what
Speaker 1: sign are you? It's like I'm an Aries. I was like, no,
Speaker 1: tally no. But then I married him for seventeen years. Oh,
Speaker 1: I was like just box. There was some boat boxes obvious,
Speaker 1: but I'm just saying, like, it's kind of funny.
Speaker 3: Maybe you picked your boxes right.
Speaker 1: Too, chee, but it was. Yeah, it was kind of
Speaker 1: like a universal joke with you and you get too
Speaker 1: attached to something too, It's like, no.
Speaker 3: No, how do you you know?
Speaker 2: I think one thing that's really difficult for people when
Speaker 2: it comes to choosing an astrologer or trusting in an
Speaker 2: astrologer is knowing whether they are for real.
Speaker 3: Like I think that's.
Speaker 2: Really difficult, and is there a way for people to
Speaker 2: to tell it?
Speaker 3: Are there like signs?
Speaker 2: Because you know, I think whenever I think of my
Speaker 2: birth chart, I think of it is something that I
Speaker 2: really have to treasure up because someone can find out
Speaker 2: so much information just by having your time of birth
Speaker 2: and the day that you were born, and it's for me.
Speaker 2: I always think of it as such protected information that
Speaker 2: I would want to give to someone that I really
Speaker 2: trust or that have the qualifications for it.
Speaker 3: How can people decide?
Speaker 1: I think this brings us back to neuroscience and our
Speaker 1: understanding of intuition. Her friend Haifa always talks about how
Speaker 1: she reminded me recently that ninety five percent of our
Speaker 1: decisions are made with our subconscious, which is just pattern recognitions.
Speaker 1: So a good astrologer will make you actually feel calmer,
Speaker 1: not afraid. Now, maybe the patterns that your brain is
Speaker 1: wired for are causing you to fear changes that would
Speaker 1: be positive for you. So you want to be self
Speaker 1: aware enough to know. Do I feel a little scared
Speaker 1: because I know I need to change, or because this
Speaker 1: feels wrong. I feel like maybe this person is scaring
Speaker 1: me so they can take advantage of me. And that
Speaker 1: kind of thing. So there's different kinds of discomfort, but
Speaker 1: the discomfort you feel, if any, with an astrologer, should
Speaker 1: be the kind that's pushing you to make growth that
Speaker 1: you needed, you know you need to do. It's like
Speaker 1: get recommendations too, I would say, like if and also
Speaker 1: you can watch them for a while on social media,
Speaker 1: make sure they have a presence and then you can
Speaker 1: feel that and see the kind of advice they give.
Speaker 1: Does it resonate with you? I mean not all astrologers
Speaker 1: are on social media. Some are some really great astrologers
Speaker 1: who just undercover, right, are like on their landline. Yeah,
Speaker 1: no one knows you better than you know yourself. That
Speaker 1: maybe an astrologer can see something that you can't, because
Speaker 1: human beings are our own biggest blind spots. But if
Speaker 1: it feels wrong, just press pause on the readings, be like,
Speaker 1: you know what, I don't know if that's going to
Speaker 1: resonate with me. Look, let's move to and new to
Speaker 1: unhect some people like people have come to us with
Speaker 1: like you know, nostrologers only I was never going to
Speaker 1: get married and that's so irresponsible. Oh yeah, and no
Speaker 1: one knows that that's the subject of free will. It's
Speaker 1: your question before in any moment. Some I've had a
Speaker 1: client who was like, where is my man? Am I
Speaker 1: going to get my you know? And I was like,
Speaker 1: are you going to be the space? Are you going
Speaker 1: to be the clearing the space that can attract ready
Speaker 1: to Yeah? What what do you think a relationship will
Speaker 1: provide in your life? And we had to unpack that
Speaker 1: a little using her chart and from there it's like, oh,
Speaker 1: she didn't really want a relationship, is what we.
Speaker 3: Discovered looking at her.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I thought she was supposed of a certain type,
Speaker 1: just wanted someone to go out with and you know,
Speaker 1: and then and she had to just give herself permission
Speaker 1: to want that.
Speaker 2: If someone if you read someone's chot and it does
Speaker 2: say they may not be able to have children or
Speaker 2: they may not get married, is that something you go
Speaker 2: saying that something that can be changed based on the
Speaker 2: way that.
Speaker 1: I I don't think that there's any determinists act like that.
Speaker 1: I did.
Speaker 3: I've had I had I had came in.
Speaker 1: That was actually my who's my physical therapist and who
Speaker 1: would just talk about astrology. So he brought his partner
Speaker 1: in and they were really trying to have a baby,
Speaker 1: and she was about to give up on her last
Speaker 1: IVF and I was like Jupiter, Jupiter the lucky plant
Speaker 1: was about to go into her fifth house of fertility
Speaker 1: for yours, like give it one more try, And then
Speaker 1: I met their baby. I'm getting chills literally like a
Speaker 1: year later and we did a little reading, but like
Speaker 1: it's worth I try to look for opportunities. I don't know,
Speaker 1: I think we both try to look for opportunities cycles
Speaker 1: for people or what blocks. Like you can look at
Speaker 1: where Saturn might be her Neptune where you're diluting yourself
Speaker 1: Pluto where you're projecting and being unconscious, like I know
Speaker 1: you talk about this a lot in your podcast, Like
Speaker 1: we can get it out of our own ways. Personal
Speaker 1: responsibility be changing the things that you eat, and that's
Speaker 1: something and you can see when would be a good
Speaker 1: time to do that. Especially I love that.
Speaker 2: I love that you can, like you said, oh, there
Speaker 2: was an opportunistic moment that she would be most likely
Speaker 2: to have success.
Speaker 3: And I think that's.
Speaker 2: The one the one way that I really appreciate, not
Speaker 2: one way I love astrology, but the one way that
Speaker 2: makes the most sense to me, where it's not telling
Speaker 2: you should or shouldn't do something. What it's telling you
Speaker 2: is these are actually the perfect way or the ideal
Speaker 2: moments for you to do something. So, whether it's your job,
Speaker 2: whether it's getting pregnant. And then what you said about eating,
Speaker 2: It's like, yeah, of course, even if your chart says
Speaker 2: you could get pregnant in this time, it's like, but
Speaker 2: how am I preparing myself for that movement? This is
Speaker 2: the opportunity moment, but you have to work for that
Speaker 2: opportunity to exactly. So.
Speaker 1: Imagine you won the lottery and they came and knocked
Speaker 1: on your door to tell you were a multi millionaire.
Speaker 1: If you didn't answer the door, they'd go to the
Speaker 1: next house. Planitary cycles are like I like, I think
Speaker 1: taking a quantum view of astrology is good at any moment.
Speaker 1: Infinite possibilities exist for each of us, but how can
Speaker 1: we access those points? The chart can help you tune
Speaker 1: yourself for anything that you want.
Speaker 2: Wow, you have to be willing, yes, And I love
Speaker 2: what you said about personal responsibility. I think that's what
Speaker 2: sometimes you go to an astrology to just surrender and
Speaker 2: be like you just tell me what to do, tell
Speaker 2: me what's going to happen in my life because I don't.
Speaker 3: I basically don't want to participate.
Speaker 2: But you have to be an active participant to your
Speaker 2: life if you want these things to always happen.
Speaker 1: Someone just technically we were having some scheduling trouble with
Speaker 1: her reading, and she wanted me to just do like
Speaker 1: a voice recorded thing for her, and I was like, okay,
Speaker 1: and then I started. I was like, no, no, no,
Speaker 1: it has to be a conversation. We have to co
Speaker 1: create together, and so we wound up rescheduling it. I
Speaker 1: was like, no, that's not you don't want this. The
Speaker 1: era we're in now in the world is about being involved.
Speaker 1: Like it's interesting with AI. It's almost like people are
Speaker 1: being you know, oh, I don't have to deal with
Speaker 1: the work. But as humans, I think we fundamentally want
Speaker 1: to build the muscle by engaging. We don't want a
Speaker 1: robot to come and wipe every counter. I mean some
Speaker 1: people might I like wiping my counters down.
Speaker 2: Yeah, But also the energetic exchange that you get from
Speaker 2: human interaction. Even with your astrologists, I feel like it's
Speaker 2: so important for them to not just read a chart.
Speaker 2: They're feeling your energy. Like there's so much to that
Speaker 2: interaction as well. Exactly in your bog you speak about
Speaker 2: I think it's in the astrology advantage. You talk about
Speaker 2: these archetypes. I would love for you to go into
Speaker 2: those and explain how they were.
Speaker 1: Absolutely so. Over the years, we built a business out
Speaker 1: of astrology, and more and more people were starting to
Speaker 1: enter spiritual business practices, and we realized we had gained
Speaker 1: a second set of skills, which is how to create
Speaker 1: a successful spiritual brand that reached millions of people every
Speaker 1: n month, and that became our full time job. So
Speaker 1: we for the last decade have been teaching people, call
Speaker 1: them astropreneurs, have been teaching them, yeah, how to use
Speaker 1: their chart. But we realized that we needed to give
Speaker 1: them a little bit of a shorthand because thinking about
Speaker 1: building a business and learning astrology is a lot for
Speaker 1: your brain at once, so we lead into a short cut.
Speaker 1: The twelve zodiac signs are divided into four elements via earth, air,
Speaker 1: and water, and also three what are called qualities which
Speaker 1: have these fancy astro jargon he names cardinal, fixed, and mutable.
Speaker 1: So we renamed those three types innovator, authority, and maven,
Speaker 1: and we have a whole system and process for making
Speaker 1: decisions people. I think the average adult makes thirty eight
Speaker 1: thousand decisions a day. It's probably more so that came out,
Speaker 1: I know, a couple thousand about food alone. Maybe more
Speaker 1: for you, yeah yeah, but I mean definitely more for
Speaker 1: me because I'm picky. But yeah, So we need to
Speaker 1: tap into the tools without having to memorize the birth chart.
Speaker 1: So we used it. We saw people like someone even
Speaker 1: sold their company using it. So now we teach teach
Speaker 1: it regularly and we have this book. It's basically a
Speaker 1: short you know, as complex as it is, as we're
Speaker 1: trying to explain the sun and moon and all the planets,
Speaker 1: it's like this is if you could put your entire
Speaker 1: chart in a blender and just come up with a
Speaker 1: simple archetype to use everything. That is what that does.
Speaker 1: So even though for example, we're Sagittarius, which is a
Speaker 1: fire sign, the majority of the planets in our chart
Speaker 1: are water, and the majority of them are cardinal signs,
Speaker 1: which are the ones that start every season, the one
Speaker 1: we call innovators. So we are. So we came up
Speaker 1: with a way for people to do that. We have
Speaker 1: to do yours. I know, the link for people to
Speaker 1: go do the quiz for free and oh you use
Speaker 1: your time dating place of birth. So it's like the
Speaker 1: modern personality has mashed up with astrology. But you don't
Speaker 1: have to answer one hundred questions. You just need your
Speaker 1: birth data, time date, and place and it'll tell you
Speaker 1: what you are. And it's really uncanny. I'm doing a
Speaker 1: lot of work with like women and the C suite
Speaker 1: women leaders and helping them, you know, just not waste
Speaker 1: all their time doubting themselves.
Speaker 3: Wow. Yeah, oh, I definitely want to do that.
Speaker 1: That's yeah, oh yeah, I would love to do that
Speaker 1: for you.
Speaker 3: You write a book of predictions every year. I got mine.
Speaker 2: Yeah, guys, I'm so excited to read this. I'm going
Speaker 2: on a paint off to this. I'm going to take
Speaker 2: it with me. My Leo twenty twenty six Daily Harscope
Speaker 2: plan Now, so this is the planet what I can
Speaker 2: write in as well.
Speaker 1: Yeah. It has calendar pages for every day and then
Speaker 1: the little tabs in the back are month by month.
Speaker 1: The front part is it has your theme for the year,
Speaker 1: your top five things that you really need to focus
Speaker 1: on when all the planets are going to be in Leo,
Speaker 1: we gave the year of theme. Actually every year we
Speaker 1: do this. Twenty twenty six is the year of the
Speaker 1: Unbridled Spirit.
Speaker 3: Oh, tell me more about that.
Speaker 1: I was about talking about all the Yeah, we called
Speaker 1: it that because well, twenty twenty five is the year
Speaker 1: of the divine pendulum. Because what was happening this year
Speaker 1: is those outer planets, the ones that are Jupiter, Saturn
Speaker 1: to Pluto. They they've been swinging back and forth between
Speaker 1: two signs, which is very unusual. So they sort of
Speaker 1: darted into these new, more young, more active signs and
Speaker 1: then these after long periods of time up to fifteen
Speaker 1: years for Neptune in these watery in sort of traditional
Speaker 1: energies and people. That's kind of why twenty twenty five
Speaker 1: has spent such a disruptive year.
Speaker 2: Did it make did all the things that happened in
Speaker 2: this year and how heavy it was, and it makes sense.
Speaker 1: It was a nine year numerology, which is the end
Speaker 1: of a ten year cycle, so it was about ending,
Speaker 1: shedding skin transform I mean two thousand and one was
Speaker 1: a snake year. Twenty thirteen yeah, so it's a lot
Speaker 1: of upheaval and chaos. But y, yeah, twenty in twenty
Speaker 1: twenty six, something that has not happened in thousands of
Speaker 1: years is happening, which is sadder in the planet of
Speaker 1: structure and Neptune, which is the planet of dreams. So
Speaker 1: Saturn creates boundaries, Neptune dissolves. Oh, Saturn's about reality, Neptune's
Speaker 1: about dreams and fantasy. They are meeting at zero degrees
Speaker 1: aries on February twentieth, the very first degree of the zodiac.
Speaker 1: So it's almost like this great really happening.
Speaker 4: Yeah, is that on a specific day, February twentieth, And
Speaker 4: every thing not yet's in the book We write about
Speaker 4: it extensively for every sign what to expect, but yeah,
Speaker 4: every sign's going to kind of have this internal reset
Speaker 4: for themselves.
Speaker 1: And yeah, with for Leos, it's around fame and creativity
Speaker 1: and you know, just being more out in the world.
Speaker 1: Actually twenty I know, I see what's gonna happen more world. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean exactly. Next year is actually a really good
Speaker 1: year for Leo's because Jupiter is entering your sign is
Speaker 1: the year on June thirty. Yeah, like just again new
Speaker 1: twelve year cycle, being more public, more out in the public.
Speaker 3: Oh interesting, Yeah, see if that's a good thing or
Speaker 3: about the.
Speaker 1: Yearly don't feel like it now, but yeah, that's zero.
Speaker 1: It's like it's also a one year which is new energy,
Speaker 1: and it's the year the fire Horse starting February seventeenth
Speaker 1: with an eclipse.
Speaker 3: Some eclipses coming up.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Wow.
Speaker 1: So it's like a lot of forward moving Maverick energy,
Speaker 1: you know, like maybe no guard rails, but like I
Speaker 1: think just a feeling of like we are human spiritual
Speaker 1: beings having a human experience that we're all going to
Speaker 1: kind of remember that too. Like there's this feeling in
Speaker 1: twenty twenty five for a lot of people.
Speaker 3: Being like stuck bit heavy.
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, and like there's a way of like this
Speaker 1: freedom that's.
Speaker 3: Come backness of new energy. I love new beginnings.
Speaker 2: Oh, I know in our in our tradition, there are
Speaker 2: so many festivals and so many spiritual moments where it's
Speaker 2: like Okay, time to research, time to get back.
Speaker 3: To your practices, and there's so many of them. I
Speaker 3: really look forward to that.
Speaker 2: Okay, great, and now I have a date where I'm
Speaker 2: going to restart this and I'm gonna have a.
Speaker 3: Date with start this.
Speaker 1: People want, though, they want hope, and they want a
Speaker 1: fresh start. Yes, that's important to it is that's the
Speaker 1: only thing that motivates people. I forgot the book I
Speaker 1: was reading that's by like a Harvard researcher who's saying that,
Speaker 1: like the number one thing is a fresh start. If
Speaker 1: people don't think that they're going to have one, they
Speaker 1: just lose hopes.
Speaker 3: Yes, okay, cool, twenty twenty six ers not people.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you spoke about someone said mercury retrograde. And I
Speaker 2: had a few questions on this that even my community asked,
Speaker 2: what is mercury retrograde? And what should one be doing
Speaker 2: during that time or not doing or not doing exactly?
Speaker 1: So, three or four times a year, mercury passes the
Speaker 1: Earth in its orbit. And have you ever been in
Speaker 1: a car where you're passing another one that's going at
Speaker 1: a different speed and one appears to be going backwards. Yes, so,
Speaker 1: because the planets move at different speeds, it's this optical illusion.
Speaker 1: But we measure the planet's motion from our vantage point
Speaker 1: on Earth, so to look like through that magic telescope,
Speaker 1: it'll look like mercury is actually going backwards through the
Speaker 1: degrees that we count it as we're passing. So the
Speaker 1: things that mercury rules, which are technology, transportation, communication will
Speaker 1: go backwards as well. Every planet goes retrograde to at
Speaker 1: a certain point, but Mercury, being the one that's closest
Speaker 1: to the Sun that influences our day to day communications,
Speaker 1: really seems to affect us a lot. Venus two goes
Speaker 1: retrograde every eighteen months or six weeks, so we have
Speaker 1: that in twenty twenty six. It's kind of like all
Speaker 1: the you know, it's a time to focus on reactivities,
Speaker 1: like if you want to, I mean, I think our
Speaker 1: society so go, go go that retrogrades have become unlucky
Speaker 1: because they sort of force us to take a time out.
Speaker 1: But if you can plan ahead, which now you can
Speaker 1: because we tell you all the dates of the Mercury
Speaker 1: retrograde in the book, if you plan ahead, you can say,
Speaker 1: you know, I'm taking these three weeks to go a
Speaker 1: little slower. I know things are going to come that
Speaker 1: I'm going to need to review or reconsider, rewind and
Speaker 1: if you look at it that way, or reconnect to
Speaker 1: people from your past that you want in your life.
Speaker 2: You know, I know, I always see these funny memes that'
Speaker 2: psych it's mercy your retrograde. You're not supposed to get
Speaker 2: back with your eggs erectly exactly.
Speaker 1: Oh and it happens. Yeah, up, people from your past
Speaker 1: will definitely really and you know it's it can sub
Speaker 1: travel sometimes it coincides with the holidays and we'll see
Speaker 1: things at airports delays and that sort of thing.
Speaker 3: So that is anything people should not do, Like should
Speaker 3: they avoid starting new things.
Speaker 1: Or I think it's not the best time to launch, Okay,
Speaker 1: so if you can help it or do like a
Speaker 1: soft launch. It's like bugs and tweet, you know, like
Speaker 1: you can't just shut your entire life down for three
Speaker 1: and a half weeks. But definitely like see if you
Speaker 1: can slow down or delay or just if you have
Speaker 1: to sign a contract, really have it reviewed, read the
Speaker 1: fine print. Just make sure that you triple check everything. Yeah,
Speaker 1: don't rush into things.
Speaker 2: Okay, it's the time to slow down. Yeah, we'll present
Speaker 2: and obseepans.
Speaker 1: And you know, if you have a project that isn't finished,
Speaker 1: use it as like a quarterly review, finishing up. Oh,
Speaker 1: there's probably emails to return. Yeah. We were born Yeah,
Speaker 1: we were born with mercury retrograde. And I think it
Speaker 1: makes us good writers and editors. You know a lot
Speaker 1: of people were who are tend to be or like
Speaker 1: leave me alone in my little cave, right right, Yeah.
Speaker 2: Wow, it's so interesting. Okay, I want to switch up
Speaker 2: to love and horoscopes.
Speaker 3: What is it?
Speaker 2: Okay, let's say someone gets their chart done or two
Speaker 2: people do and it says that they are really compatible
Speaker 2: or absolutely not compatible. What should people be doing from
Speaker 2: that moment? Like is it is it something that they
Speaker 2: can adapt and change? And can that become untrue if it's.
Speaker 1: I feel it's it's just accepting, Like I don't know.
Speaker 1: It's like I don't know if it is like totally well,
Speaker 1: there are things that are like well that might be
Speaker 1: challenging for the time of view, but I don't think
Speaker 1: it's written in stone that just because your venuses are
Speaker 1: in a nice you know, maybe you'll have a great
Speaker 1: honeymoon period and romance or but like every relationship will
Speaker 1: hit a point. Yeah, Like easy relationships aren't always the best.
Speaker 1: They can get boring. I like, I couldn't do my
Speaker 1: husband's chart when I met him because there was no
Speaker 1: Wi Fi signal. Then it burning and I was like,
Speaker 1: you're an aries, but where's your moon? Where's your Mars
Speaker 1: venus and then like I finally got out of there,
Speaker 1: and I was like, oh, good moon sign opposite moon.
Speaker 1: But I was like, I have Venus and Mars and
Speaker 1: scorpio water signs. He is his Venus and Mars and
Speaker 1: air signs. And I always knew that that was just
Speaker 1: going to be a little bit tricky really and it
Speaker 1: and it proved to be. But I have no regrets
Speaker 1: about being married for the time that we were, which
Speaker 1: was seventeen years, you know, So it's differences, like but
Speaker 1: it was that he did get in the way at
Speaker 1: the end. It didn't like to go to the same
Speaker 1: kind of like concerts and shows. But his sort of
Speaker 1: airy objectiveness and your watery emotional intelligence can really come
Speaker 1: together nicely. I learned so much, Like I've grown so
Speaker 1: much from the relationship. I would never change it. But ultimately,
Speaker 1: like it's like, do you want a relationship that's just
Speaker 1: like comfortable, like okay, someone to just relax around, or
Speaker 1: do you want someone who's going to challenge you to grow?
Speaker 1: And sometimes a hard relationship is actually the best one
Speaker 1: because you do learn things about yourself that you wouldn't
Speaker 1: if you just like exactly you know, like I've I
Speaker 1: had never It was like it was the best challenge
Speaker 1: in a lot of ways because I got in touch
Speaker 1: with parts of myself that I wouldn't have. And I
Speaker 1: think that we choose our relationships with our hearts, with
Speaker 1: our souls, with something else. But the astrology chart is
Speaker 1: a tool for knowing how to navigate it and it
Speaker 1: might last for seventeen years or seven months or seven minutes.
Speaker 1: But like everything that, I mean, my view and probably
Speaker 1: yours too, is that hers because we're twins in my brain.
Speaker 1: Everyone else, sorry, this is a peril of being a twin. Yeah,
Speaker 1: don't always agree, but I think every relationship comes along
Speaker 1: for a reason, and that we're not just here to
Speaker 1: have the perfect life. We're here to grow and evolve.
Speaker 1: And sometimes it's the friction and the differences and difficult charts,
Speaker 1: you know, that can be the lessons. And then you know,
Speaker 1: if you have these incompatible compare and contrast charts, like
Speaker 1: I said, you can also do your combined chart and
Speaker 1: find the sign and the chart of your relationships, so
Speaker 1: which can be completely different, like we did a yeah
Speaker 1: if our website for that is supercouple dot com. There's
Speaker 1: a calculator that'll tell you. Oh cool, yeah, because you
Speaker 1: look at like, for example, like Justin Bieber, Justin and
Speaker 1: Hailey Bieber. He's a Pisces, she's a Sagittarius. You would
Speaker 1: never see them, you know, matched up, but together they
Speaker 1: become a Capricorn, which is serious and parents and church
Speaker 1: and all things that they did. Like alone they were wild,
Speaker 1: which was like their signs, but together they become very
Speaker 1: like yeah, yeah, so you can do that with anyone,
Speaker 1: you know, you being a Leo and shaping a Virgo
Speaker 1: like your one sign of part so one of you
Speaker 1: is gonna win the coin toss. You'll have to see
Speaker 1: if your relationship is Leo or a Virgo. Oh yeah, yeah.
Speaker 3: I know what it is. Does that mean he's the
Speaker 3: more dominant? Oh not really.
Speaker 1: Well, it's just when you guys are together. If we
Speaker 1: are to take the midpoint of your birthdays, wherever it
Speaker 1: is on the calendar, will either be in the Leo
Speaker 1: or the Virgo zone. Just so yeah, I would, Yeah,
Speaker 1: could go either way because are very Virgo spiritual together,
Speaker 1: but also very Leo like glamour and fame together.
Speaker 3: So yeah, I didn't even know Leo is glamor and
Speaker 3: fame it is.
Speaker 2: Yes, see fancy. One question that I had was, you know,
Speaker 2: I have friends who would say, oh, I love Leo women,
Speaker 2: but I do not get along with Leo man. Right,
Speaker 2: different male and female versions of horoscopes. People seem to
Speaker 2: have different interactions with them. So are there a big
Speaker 2: difference between the male version and the female version of
Speaker 2: these horoscopes?
Speaker 1: There can be, Yeah, I think in the way that
Speaker 1: the trait, like if you lean into being classically feminine
Speaker 1: or classically masculine, then there can be obnoxiousness on both sides.
Speaker 1: You know, for sure. It's such an interesting time because
Speaker 1: that used to be very much part of how astrologers wrote,
Speaker 1: and now with gender being so much more fluid and
Speaker 1: redefined by people like, it's a really interesting time to
Speaker 1: see how astrology matches with that. Yeah, but it does
Speaker 1: still show up. Actually, our first horoscope writing job was
Speaker 1: for teen People magazine and daily Horoscopes His and Hers
Speaker 1: seven days a week. I was like, talk about boot camp.
Speaker 1: It was like, oh my god, I'm not going any where.
Speaker 1: I'd meet friends at eleven pm. I'm an Aquarius. I've
Speaker 1: got two more signs to go. I'll be right out.
Speaker 3: Oh but it's good like, how long did you write
Speaker 3: for them?
Speaker 1: For? Ye? For Yeah, they went out of business.
Speaker 2: Yeah, did you do you think that people should like
Speaker 2: if they had to know the basic what are the
Speaker 2: basics you recommend people know about their chart? Like would
Speaker 2: it just be their son they're rising the big.
Speaker 1: Three years, it's called definitely the sun, moon and rising,
Speaker 1: but I really think the north and south nodes, those
Speaker 1: two destiny points. Especially if you don't know your birth time,
Speaker 1: it's you can still get those.
Speaker 2: Yes, that was one of the questions that people had
Speaker 2: was if they don't know their birth time, or their
Speaker 2: birth time's not one hundred percent accurate, are they able
Speaker 2: to get an accurate chart?
Speaker 1: You can, you just can't get a full at full chart.
Speaker 1: You know, there's thirty degrees of every sign, so if
Speaker 1: you look at your chart, it'll say a little number
Speaker 1: like zero. So if there's a zero or a twenty
Speaker 1: nine degree which is the first and last by any
Speaker 1: of the planets in your chart, it's either it might
Speaker 1: be off by one. So you could say, oh, my
Speaker 1: moon is a twenty nine degrees libra, but it might
Speaker 1: be a two degrees scorpio if I was born a
Speaker 1: couple hours later.
Speaker 5: Oh, okay, so no, astrologers can really have a lot
Speaker 5: of your yet you mean you won't.
Speaker 1: You probably won't get your big three right, but you
Speaker 1: can get your mercury, your venus. You can learn enough
Speaker 1: about your your moon will be either one sign or
Speaker 1: another depending on the degree in. Astrologer can help you
Speaker 1: with that, and there are astrologers to do or are
Speaker 1: called rectified charts. They'll have a long conversation with you
Speaker 1: and then they'll be able to adjust give you. Yeah,
Speaker 1: they'll be like, think i'd think you this. Yeah, people
Speaker 1: are really good at it, but you'll never know.
Speaker 2: I have well I don't know whether you can actually
Speaker 2: do it on the spot, but I actually have a
Speaker 2: friend's chop.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Should I give it to you?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 1: Yeah, so perfect.
Speaker 2: I have literally saw this and I was like, this
Speaker 2: is amazing, but I've never seen anything like it.
Speaker 3: It's so cool.
Speaker 1: Oh thank you?
Speaker 3: Uh huh, she was very excited.
Speaker 1: Oh cool. So in aries with a libre rising, it
Speaker 1: looks like is she twenty nine degrees the uh sudent
Speaker 1: no scorpio rising.
Speaker 5: Okay, I know, we're like it's like another language these
Speaker 5: algar So here is to explain if this is her
Speaker 5: in the middle of the chart looking up at the sky.
Speaker 1: These little symbols in here are all the planets, the sun,
Speaker 1: in the moon, that's where they were. And in this
Speaker 1: outer ring the pizza pizza crust. Yeah, are the twelve signs.
Speaker 1: They each get thirty degrees equal, you know, very egalitarian.
Speaker 1: They get their same amount of real estate. And so
Speaker 1: this symbols the sun, it was in the aries part
Speaker 1: of the sky. That's why she's an Okay, this is
Speaker 1: was the moon. The moon is here, it's in the
Speaker 1: Gemini part of the sky, so that's why she's a
Speaker 1: Gemini moon.
Speaker 3: That's how we read it, okay.
Speaker 1: And then the houses. So the houses are based on
Speaker 1: the latitude and longitude of where you were born, and
Speaker 1: that's that's when you need a birth time to have
Speaker 1: an accurate houses. We call them the pizza slices. Depending
Speaker 1: on how close to the equator you were born. They
Speaker 1: can be if you're close to the equator, they're fairly
Speaker 1: even inside north or South like you know, northern Europe,
Speaker 1: South America. You just want skinny ones. So the houses
Speaker 1: don't are not only thirty degrees each. Some may encompass,
Speaker 1: so they don't always line up with the crust of
Speaker 1: the pizza there. But the toppings, we like to say,
Speaker 1: are the planets and the signs they're in, So she
Speaker 1: has we look at so oh, and then it's till
Speaker 1: the actors of the movie in your life. The signs
Speaker 1: are in are the costume or rules, and the houses
Speaker 1: are like the movie sets. And then these lines between
Speaker 1: the planets their mathematical angles. Those are the roles or
Speaker 1: the scenes that they have together. So we can say, oh,
Speaker 1: they're talking to each other. Especially so you get the
Speaker 1: whole movie. This is useful to look at it like yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: and the way, so nine o'clock, this is the eastern horizon.
Speaker 1: If you were to look out the window, that's what
Speaker 1: you would see on the eastern horizon. Whatever sign is
Speaker 1: crossing through there is your rising sign.
Speaker 2: Oh, whatever's opposite, whatever it's whatever's.
Speaker 1: At the nine o'clock the chart. That's the beginning of
Speaker 1: the chart, and then the houses go counterclockwise, first, second, third, fourth, fifth,
Speaker 1: sixth all the way to the twelfth. Oh. I would
Speaker 1: when if I was reading her chart, I would go, Okay,
Speaker 1: she has a sun in aries, but it's in the
Speaker 1: seventh house, the seventh house six, so she's like a
Speaker 1: virgoy aries. Virgo is the sixth sign, so aries tend
Speaker 1: to be left unchecked, very bold, domineering personalities, but hers
Speaker 1: may come out more in a helpful service, ye kind
Speaker 1: of way. Like she works in health and wellness? Is
Speaker 1: she a yoga teacher anything like that. She could be
Speaker 1: very health oriented or wellness oriented or just organized.
Speaker 2: You know. It's a friend of a friend, so I
Speaker 2: need to okay, I should probably know things.
Speaker 6: About Yeah, sorry, yeah, I would say, oh, okay, I
Speaker 6: see in her have to look at the the fourth house,
Speaker 6: which is home and family, the seventh houses relationships.
Speaker 1: The tenth house is career. So I would say, yeah,
Speaker 1: I would say her son is in the what's in
Speaker 1: the sixth You're right, say, oh, I see in her
Speaker 1: fifth house, which is she's got sadder in there. That's
Speaker 1: the house of love. That's the house of Venus, Yes,
Speaker 1: Santur and Venus. That's also entertainment. So maybe she's someone
Speaker 1: who's working in entertainment here or should be. And when
Speaker 1: it comes to love, she's like probably both her. So
Speaker 1: her venus, which is love, isn't saturn as I'm sorry,
Speaker 1: it's in her venus which is love isn't Pisces, so
Speaker 1: it's her romantic lead as we're in the costume of Pisces,
Speaker 1: so that can be like dreamy, swept away romantic. But
Speaker 1: she also is Saturn, which is discipline, serious energy, and
Speaker 1: Pisces a life quickly and then be like, well, but
Speaker 1: can they pass the tests?
Speaker 3: So I'm going to have reaction into all of this.
Speaker 2: Yeah, fast time and then we can see but yeah, yeah, her.
Speaker 1: Rising sign is Scorpio, so she's if we did her
Speaker 1: Big three, she's in Aries with a Gemini moon and
Speaker 1: a Scorpio rising. So Gemini Moon and Aries they play
Speaker 1: well together, okay, you know, it's friendly, likes to talk,
Speaker 1: needs a lot of reassurance. But then she's got the
Speaker 1: Scorpio rising. So if if your son is your main character,
Speaker 1: your rising sign is the direct of the movie. So
Speaker 1: there's a little bit of conflict there because the Arees
Speaker 1: wants to be out in the world, but the Scorpios
Speaker 1: doesn't really trust all these Scorpio rising reads. Everybody that's
Speaker 1: like the handler your rising Sun. It's like, you know,
Speaker 1: you are this wild and fiery Aries, but wait, don't
Speaker 1: act like that in public. Like for the first impression,
Speaker 1: we're going to be controlled scorpios, so sort of the
Speaker 1: mask you might wear how you first land with people,
Speaker 1: Like we have a Capricorn rising, which is very different
Speaker 1: than Sagittarius, but it's good sometimes it helps restrain the
Speaker 1: sage a little and so it's but you learn how
Speaker 1: to make all those it's like a recipe. You learn
Speaker 1: how to add the right proportions the ingredients in the
Speaker 1: right places, right timing, and then you get all this facility.
Speaker 1: Then you have superpowers, you know, because you're like, ooh,
Speaker 1: I met someone. I know my Venus and Pisces is
Speaker 1: gonna get swept away, but I know I have Saturn there.
Speaker 1: So if that person Mars and lead out of long
Speaker 1: term POTENTI Lars and Leo too. So she's probably a
Speaker 1: hopeless romance. I hope she has a good partner. She
Speaker 1: might be navigating, Like you know, I really want to
Speaker 1: find someone that has that kind of peak you for
Speaker 1: a connection, but I also need to make maybe they
Speaker 1: need to be a little older than me. That's sadder
Speaker 1: in too, so you can you can start to like
Speaker 1: let these things to get literally analyze this for like
Speaker 1: really fun. And that's why we like to talk to
Speaker 1: the person.
Speaker 3: Just because it goes back and they're.
Speaker 1: Like, oh, you know what, that's so funny. My longest
Speaker 1: term partner was twenty years older than me. We'll hear
Speaker 1: something or like, oh we were I was with my
Speaker 1: high school you know, boyfriend for ten years and we
Speaker 1: almost got married. You know, you hear things that validate
Speaker 1: and then it just comes back. It's not you're not
Speaker 1: cheating in astrology, it's like you start to explain the
Speaker 1: person and then they make sense to themselves. They're like,
Speaker 1: I've been carrying this around. Now that's the best. The
Speaker 1: best astrologers won't want you to be dependent, right, They
Speaker 1: want you to just be empowered by them, not yourself.
Speaker 1: Even if you come back to check on some things.
Speaker 1: It's like if you have a toolbox. We all have
Speaker 1: a toolbox here in the chart, but if you know
Speaker 1: how to use even if you only pick up the
Speaker 1: hammer and drill the first time, there's a whole you know,
Speaker 1: it's like something to come away with.
Speaker 3: And so that's the main page.
Speaker 2: And then the rest that they've been given is that
Speaker 2: just in detail descriptions.
Speaker 1: Yeah, the planet positions, Yeah amazing, Yeah, Oh I see
Speaker 1: that there's an asteroids. Yeah, yeah, the asteroids people like,
Speaker 1: you know, go beyond the planets and add those into Yeah.
Speaker 3: So, thank you so much. I'm gonna get back down.
Speaker 2: What I'll do is I'll try online share her reaction
Speaker 2: to oh cool.
Speaker 1: I can tell her that she has what's called a
Speaker 1: grand trine to a grand fire. Try and you see
Speaker 1: this tryang, Yeah, here, if we look at the degrees,
Speaker 1: that is this sort of unbridled spirit. Now it's like
Speaker 1: this unchecked the planet's really flowing in harmony with each other.
Speaker 1: She has Jupiter and Mars okay, the Sun and Ari
Speaker 1: it's a fire try and the Sun and Aries, which
Speaker 1: is you know how she's her main character energy. She
Speaker 1: has her Mars and Lea, which is fight, you know,
Speaker 1: brash in, and then Jupiter, which is luck and Sagittarius.
Speaker 1: So when she's into something, when she gets I make
Speaker 1: money abroad.
Speaker 2: Well, apparently she is obsessed with astrology, always wants to know.
Speaker 1: You know, south note. The last thing she should definitely
Speaker 1: know is that her past life sign, her south note
Speaker 1: isn't Taurus, and her north node Destiny son is in Scorpio,
Speaker 1: which is mystery. So yeah, learning, well, there you go.
Speaker 3: That's definitely that I had some questions that came here.
Speaker 3: I can take these. Yeah, I had some questions that
Speaker 3: came in from the audience. You've actually answered a lot
Speaker 3: of them.
Speaker 2: But one of the questions I thought was interesting was
Speaker 2: if you have a C section, does it change the
Speaker 2: child's astrology?
Speaker 1: No, because I did. I think that it doesn't matter
Speaker 1: how a child comes into the world, their exact moment,
Speaker 1: their first breath, c section, pre MEI whatever, it doesn't matter,
Speaker 1: you know. I was there like when a minute okay,
Speaker 1: cancer rising?
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, okay, that's good to honestly the rest of
Speaker 2: them free will we discussed if you don't know the
Speaker 2: exact time, you said, you can only have a certain
Speaker 2: amount of information, right, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1: But just enough, but a lot. There's an astrologer and
Speaker 1: they'll help you sort it out.
Speaker 2: Okay, Oh my gosh, amazing. All these other questions we've
Speaker 2: already answered it. Okay in a conversation, Thank you so much.
Speaker 2: You want people to know about astrology, that we could.
Speaker 1: Talk a little bit about more about twenty twenties.
Speaker 3: Yes, I would love to Actually, I would love to know.
Speaker 2: I would love to know the specific themes and things
Speaker 2: that you think people should be in detail, if possible,
Speaker 2: doing avoiding starting.
Speaker 1: There's going to be a big identity shift for everybody
Speaker 1: next year when Saturn and Neptune together in aries. But
Speaker 1: we've kind of gotten warmed up to it this year.
Speaker 1: We're all going to need to be really clear about
Speaker 1: what we will and won't do next year, very like
Speaker 1: we kind of twenty twenty five. People were a little
Speaker 1: more like shell shocked a little by changes yea, And
Speaker 1: now twenty twenty six it's like, I'm just going to
Speaker 1: be a hard no to this. This does not work
Speaker 1: for me. I think there'll be a lot more local
Speaker 1: community organizing. URAN is the planet of communities going to Gemini,
Speaker 1: so people are going to form their own I think
Speaker 1: it's a great year for independent media podcasting URAN. It's
Speaker 1: also rules technology in Gemini. It hasn't been in Gemini
Speaker 1: since the nineteen forties, which was a peak time of
Speaker 1: innovation and also coincided with World War Two, but the
Speaker 1: economy was never better. So there's a lot of pros
Speaker 1: and cons, but it is definitely this AI thing is
Speaker 1: definitely here to stay. In Yeah, and humanism. It's going
Speaker 1: to be weird. It's going to be a weird year
Speaker 1: and for sure, But on a personal level, I think
Speaker 1: people are going to feel like I have me in
Speaker 1: a way that we haven't before. Venus the Planet of
Speaker 1: Love is going retrograde in the town relationship side, Yeah,
Speaker 1: from October third to November thirteenth, So it might actually
Speaker 1: bring because relationships are really I mean, I feel like
Speaker 1: you and Jay are kind of a rarity right now.
Speaker 1: A lot of people are struggling to find relationships. Yeah,
Speaker 1: We're at a time where people are going to want
Speaker 1: to not sacrifice their individuality just to be part of
Speaker 1: a community, to be part of a relationship. There's even
Speaker 1: British Vogue just did an article about, like, is having
Speaker 1: a boyfriend embarrassing?
Speaker 2: Now?
Speaker 1: Like that it's cringey to talk about, which is a
Speaker 1: little It's like it was humple goals was the hashtag
Speaker 1: last year. Now it's cringe. But I think what's happening
Speaker 1: more and more is that people are just like what
Speaker 1: you know, we we want to be who we are.
Speaker 1: We don't want to lose that in order to be
Speaker 1: part of groups, companionships, units. So we're really exploring a
Speaker 1: lot of paradox. Yeah, in the second half of the year,
Speaker 1: the lunar nodes are changing. The first half of the year,
Speaker 1: they're in Pisces and Virgo, so we're in this very
Speaker 1: like pondering everything, like it's a great.
Speaker 3: Is this the right thing to do?
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's very like foggy. All of this year has
Speaker 1: also been that the North note has been in Pisces,
Speaker 1: which is like putting this cloud, but like the South
Speaker 1: note in Virgo, so self care, wellness, really just coming
Speaker 1: back to our bodies is more important than ever. But
Speaker 1: then halfway through the year the South note goes into
Speaker 1: Leo and the North goes into Aquarius, and I think
Speaker 1: that's going to bring a lot of social change, bringing
Speaker 1: back like leaders who are you know, honorable and for
Speaker 1: the people again Yeah eight oh, I wasn't that one Oma? Yeah,
Speaker 1: I feel like he's coming back that prediction.
Speaker 3: That's a let's go, let's come on. Thank you guys
Speaker 3: so much. It's so pretty.
Speaker 2: So looking forward to read this book on my flight.
Speaker 2: I want to hear all the predictions for my future.
Speaker 1: We're all in there. Thanks for having us on such
Speaker 1: a great conversation.
Speaker 3: It really was answered all my questions.
Speaker 1: Awesome.
Speaker 2: H