WEBVTT - Astrology Decoded: What Your Chart Reveals About Purpose, Destiny & Growth 0:00:00.160 --> 0:00:03.120 In twenty twenty six, something that has not happened in 0:00:03.400 --> 0:00:06.960 thousands of years is happening, which is sadder in the 0:00:07.000 --> 0:00:11.320 planet of structure and Neptune, which is the planet of dreams. 0:00:11.560 --> 0:00:15.560 They are meeting at zero degrees areas on February twentieth, 0:00:15.720 --> 0:00:18.480 the very first degree of the zodiac. So it's almost 0:00:18.480 --> 0:00:21.520 like this great reason beginning happening. Yeah. 0:00:22.079 --> 0:00:25.640 Today, we've got the incredible AstroTwins joining me Ofira and 0:00:25.720 --> 0:00:29.080 tally Edits. They are twin astrologers, best selling authors, and 0:00:29.240 --> 0:00:32.080 founders of Astro Style. They've helped millions of people use 0:00:32.080 --> 0:00:35.280 astrology as a tool for understanding themselves, their purpose, and 0:00:35.320 --> 0:00:36.280 their relationships. 0:00:36.479 --> 0:00:40.000 But we measure mercury is actually going backwards to the 0:00:40.080 --> 0:00:43.680 degrees that we count it. The things that mercury rules, 0:00:43.680 --> 0:00:49.280 which are technology, transportation, communication, will go backwards as well. 0:00:49.400 --> 0:00:51.960 I'm Radi w Kiah and on my podcast A Really 0:00:51.960 --> 0:00:55.960 Good Cry, we embrace the messy and the beautiful, providing 0:00:56.000 --> 0:01:00.320 a space for raw, unfielded conversations that celebrate vulnerability, allow 0:01:00.400 --> 0:01:04.040 you to tune in, to learn, connect and find comfort together. 0:01:04.480 --> 0:01:07.040 Thank you both so much for being here. I am 0:01:07.200 --> 0:01:10.040 honestly so excited to speak to you. I read through 0:01:10.080 --> 0:01:13.120 your book and honestly, I have so many questions that 0:01:13.160 --> 0:01:14.040 I want to ask you. 0:01:14.080 --> 0:01:15.640 But first, thank you for being here. 0:01:15.880 --> 0:01:17.800 So excited to be here too. 0:01:18.560 --> 0:01:20.959 So my first question is actually unrelated to astrology, and 0:01:20.959 --> 0:01:22.199 it's like, what is it like being twins? 0:01:23.800 --> 0:01:26.760 I mean, we don't know anything else. It's like we say, 0:01:26.800 --> 0:01:30.840 it's like being being like born married. Anyways, yea, the 0:01:30.920 --> 0:01:35.760 built in best friend partnership. I know we've shared a 0:01:35.800 --> 0:01:39.920 bank account, a piggy bank. Yeah. Yeah. 0:01:40.040 --> 0:01:43.240 Have you ever pretended to be one another a couple times? Okay? 0:01:43.319 --> 0:01:48.760 Nice classes. Yes, never switched boyfriends. Everyone always asks that, But. 0:01:49.080 --> 0:01:50.720 That's a nice line to draw, right. 0:01:51.920 --> 0:01:55.000 Wefinitely draw the line there, although we've been asked. 0:01:55.160 --> 0:01:58.320 Yeah, I do think that there's something as soon as 0:01:58.320 --> 0:02:01.200 I think about twins, I do think of something that 0:02:01.240 --> 0:02:04.720 feels very spiritual and something that feels very connected. Obviously, 0:02:05.120 --> 0:02:07.960 And did you find from a young age that you 0:02:08.000 --> 0:02:10.760 guys had a different connection to how other people would 0:02:10.760 --> 0:02:12.200 describe their sibling relationship? 0:02:12.280 --> 0:02:15.360 For sure, we used we had our own language, even 0:02:15.400 --> 0:02:18.760 remember a little bit of it. It's like we Yeah, 0:02:18.760 --> 0:02:21.560 I think it's just very lucky. You always have someone 0:02:21.639 --> 0:02:24.120 who's I mean, sometimes when you're going through something and 0:02:24.160 --> 0:02:26.920 you are not wanting to be in that phase like 0:02:27.200 --> 0:02:30.240 you know, adolescence of course, like oh there's a mirror 0:02:30.400 --> 0:02:34.760 all the time, right, but it makes you very self aware. Yeah, 0:02:34.880 --> 0:02:40.440 I bet. Basically, yeah, I'd always someone to process stuff with. 0:02:40.800 --> 0:02:43.480 And so that's been good, so lovely. 0:02:43.560 --> 0:02:46.680 I know I have a sister, not twins, but definitely 0:02:46.919 --> 0:02:50.680 appreciate sibling relationships, and especially when you get older and older, 0:02:50.720 --> 0:02:53.440 you feel like you value them so much more. How 0:02:53.480 --> 0:02:56.800 did you both get into astrology? Like, how did that 0:02:56.800 --> 0:02:57.800 come about? Yeah? 0:02:57.880 --> 0:03:02.200 It was it was an accident. My college boyfriend many 0:03:02.280 --> 0:03:05.640 years ago gave me a birth chart as a gift 0:03:05.880 --> 0:03:09.400 for my twenty first game US A birth chart four 0:03:09.440 --> 0:03:12.959 minutes apart. Was only the tiniest difference, but not enough 0:03:13.000 --> 0:03:16.360 to matter there. So yeah, I mean we had been 0:03:16.480 --> 0:03:20.880 kind of interested in, oh we're Sagittarius. That does sound 0:03:20.960 --> 0:03:23.200 like us, but then the full birth chart was like 0:03:23.280 --> 0:03:27.000 whoa this is? And we discovered because the birth chart 0:03:27.080 --> 0:03:29.200 is a map of where every single planet is when 0:03:29.200 --> 0:03:32.520 you're born. Most people only know where the sun was 0:03:32.639 --> 0:03:33.560 in the zodiac. 0:03:33.720 --> 0:03:38.840 Okay, but that where Sagittarius yes, yeah, people say what's 0:03:38.880 --> 0:03:43.200 your sign, like where was the sun positioned in the sky? 0:03:43.520 --> 0:03:46.920 That's in relation to the Earth, but the moon is 0:03:47.120 --> 0:03:49.400 you know, only someone born in the same minute, in 0:03:49.400 --> 0:03:52.000 the same time zone as you will share the exact chart. 0:03:52.040 --> 0:03:54.800 Even we four minutes a part of a slightly different 0:03:54.920 --> 0:03:58.920 chart as twins. Very very subtle, but it shows up 0:03:58.960 --> 0:04:02.440 in the kinds of friends we pick the guys that 0:04:02.480 --> 0:04:06.520 we dated, and so that is actually helpful, I guess, 0:04:06.880 --> 0:04:10.160 you know. It was really shocking how descriptive. It was 0:04:10.160 --> 0:04:12.480 like a thirty page booklet, and I was like, this 0:04:12.520 --> 0:04:17.120 is just way too uncanny to be an accident. So 0:04:17.160 --> 0:04:20.920 we just learned how to do our friends and yeah, 0:04:20.960 --> 0:04:24.440 it was just was like, okay, things do come with instructions. 0:04:24.440 --> 0:04:26.400 What do you know and what are some of the 0:04:26.440 --> 0:04:29.400 things that you feel people don't really know that they 0:04:29.400 --> 0:04:32.040 can actually be that can be revealed to them through 0:04:32.120 --> 0:04:33.040 learning the astrology. 0:04:33.560 --> 0:04:38.359 I think one of the biggest things is your core 0:04:38.520 --> 0:04:42.120 destiny and purpose. Using the north and south nodes, they're 0:04:42.120 --> 0:04:47.560 called Rahu and ke To in Vedic or cabalistic astrology, 0:04:47.640 --> 0:04:50.719 looks at them. There's two points in the chart that 0:04:50.800 --> 0:04:54.039 are based on where the eclipses were happening essentially closest 0:04:54.040 --> 0:04:56.360 to your time of birth, and they're in opposite signs, 0:04:56.440 --> 0:05:01.040 the lunar nodes, and you know they change every eighteen months. 0:05:01.080 --> 0:05:03.080 So you kind of come in with the soul group. 0:05:03.600 --> 0:05:07.000 You can see what your comfort zone is and what 0:05:07.040 --> 0:05:11.520 your you know, your destiny is karmic growth area. 0:05:11.640 --> 0:05:14.560 Yeah, so it's a really great thing to help if 0:05:14.560 --> 0:05:16.480 someone feels lost in their life or if they feel 0:05:16.480 --> 0:05:18.160 like they don't know what that purpose is. 0:05:18.240 --> 0:05:19.599 Those two things can many. 0:05:19.440 --> 0:05:22.599 A tendencies that might you know, in our example, we 0:05:22.680 --> 0:05:25.680 have a cancer south note, so we kind of default 0:05:25.800 --> 0:05:29.159 into being you know, domestic. We like to you know, 0:05:29.680 --> 0:05:34.400 be in our bubbles, creating, and we're always surrounded by 0:05:34.480 --> 0:05:37.560 you've done a lot of pro women work. Cancer is 0:05:37.560 --> 0:05:41.200 the sign of women. But then our north note is Capricorns. 0:05:41.240 --> 0:05:44.960 We get pushed to taking that out into the business world, 0:05:45.000 --> 0:05:47.960 which is what Capricorn is about. So knowing that that's 0:05:47.960 --> 0:05:51.320 been a lot of women leaders. So sometimes you'll be 0:05:51.480 --> 0:05:54.360 struggling and you don't know if it's because you're doing 0:05:54.440 --> 0:05:57.159 the wrong thing or because you're supposed to learn something. 0:05:57.800 --> 0:06:01.359 Chart can show you are you struggling because Oh, you 0:06:01.440 --> 0:06:03.640 need to like do a little more of this, little 0:06:03.720 --> 0:06:07.080 less of that. And it's been a really good dining system. 0:06:07.120 --> 0:06:10.080 We are. Nobody has a perfect chart, no one has 0:06:10.120 --> 0:06:13.719 a lucky chart. Necessarily. There are things you can see 0:06:13.760 --> 0:06:16.000 where you'll be challenged more. But I feel like our 0:06:16.080 --> 0:06:18.400 souls maybe sign up for that. Wow. 0:06:18.640 --> 0:06:21.680 And you mentioned badich astrology. That's the only kind of 0:06:21.720 --> 0:06:23.960 astrology that I grew up knowing. I don't really know much, 0:06:24.000 --> 0:06:26.280 but my mom would always follow certain things to do 0:06:26.320 --> 0:06:28.039 with it. I had my birth chat down when I 0:06:28.080 --> 0:06:30.360 was a baby, and she always reads it to me, like. 0:06:30.320 --> 0:06:31.440 Every year to remind me. 0:06:32.200 --> 0:06:35.480 Yeah, she does do that, And actually it was weirdly accurate. 0:06:36.320 --> 0:06:38.120 It spoke about that I was going to move abroad. 0:06:38.960 --> 0:06:43.440 It spoke about me even having a job where I 0:06:43.480 --> 0:06:48.240 would be watched by a lot of people, lots of 0:06:48.520 --> 0:06:50.400 lots of interesting things, which when I was younger, I 0:06:50.440 --> 0:06:51.760 was like, there's no way I'm moving abroad. 0:06:51.800 --> 0:06:53.600 I love where I live. I'm never going to go. 0:06:53.640 --> 0:06:56.120 And that was something I never wanted to do, but 0:06:56.160 --> 0:06:59.279 it ended up happening. One of the main differences between 0:06:59.320 --> 0:07:03.400 the two West and Western astrology and Vada gastrology. 0:07:03.480 --> 0:07:08.080 Yeah, in Western astrology, it's more based on geometry, not 0:07:08.160 --> 0:07:13.040 the constellations. The constellations have shifted about twenty four degrees. 0:07:13.760 --> 0:07:17.120 But in Vedic it actually the signs have you know 0:07:17.120 --> 0:07:19.960 when you read those articles that come out every so often, 0:07:20.080 --> 0:07:23.920 like your zodiacs on is different. It's actually true in 0:07:24.080 --> 0:07:27.960 Vedic astrology because the constellations have moved and it follows that, 0:07:28.120 --> 0:07:32.520 whereas Western astrology follows the seasons. The first you know, 0:07:32.960 --> 0:07:36.840 first day of spring starts the zodiac zero degrees arees. 0:07:36.960 --> 0:07:40.440 So wow, and then you said that you're mentioning that 0:07:40.480 --> 0:07:43.400 things can change every eighteen months or something. So whatever 0:07:44.320 --> 0:07:47.480 you're born with, so that doesn't just stay as a. 0:07:47.280 --> 0:07:51.800 Well it does. It's like what your birth chart is 0:07:51.800 --> 0:07:56.000 is basically a selfie of the sky overhead, your mone 0:07:56.000 --> 0:07:58.480 of birth when you see the wheels, what you're looking 0:07:58.480 --> 0:08:01.640 at is imagine, I always say, imagine yourself lying on 0:08:01.680 --> 0:08:04.360 a blanket looking up at the stars at your moment 0:08:04.400 --> 0:08:07.800 of birth and just freeze framing what you saw overhead, 0:08:07.880 --> 0:08:10.720 or looking with the telescope and what you see in 0:08:10.760 --> 0:08:14.920 the telescope ring the arrangement the pattern of the planets 0:08:15.000 --> 0:08:17.560 around where you are on Earth at your moment of 0:08:17.560 --> 0:08:21.800 birth is what our chart is, the Western chart. 0:08:21.920 --> 0:08:23.240 That's a really nice way of putting it. 0:08:23.280 --> 0:08:26.760 I just imagine myself as a baby. 0:08:28.400 --> 0:08:31.080 And they all move through the zodiac at different speeds. 0:08:31.160 --> 0:08:34.240 So the Sun stays in a sign for thirty days, 0:08:35.000 --> 0:08:39.480 the moon two and a half days, the ascendant two hours, 0:08:40.000 --> 0:08:42.400 Mercury three weeks, and the further out you go from 0:08:42.400 --> 0:08:44.960 the Sun, the like Pluto will stay and assign for 0:08:45.559 --> 0:08:48.960 twelve to thirty years. So you'll share a lot of 0:08:49.480 --> 0:08:54.520 generational The generations tend to have similar groupings, Like all 0:08:54.559 --> 0:08:59.280 the millennials have a lot of the outer planets in Capricorn, 0:09:00.160 --> 0:09:04.640 this like heavy burden of responsibility and you know, girl 0:09:04.760 --> 0:09:08.320 bossing to create the sun or whatever you have. The 0:09:08.360 --> 0:09:11.240 boomers have a lot of Leo and cancers of the 0:09:11.320 --> 0:09:15.520 family duty and all the kind of what's the shadows 0:09:15.520 --> 0:09:18.280 side of Leo of being sort of self involved that 0:09:18.320 --> 0:09:20.800 they're accused of that sort of thing. 0:09:20.960 --> 0:09:23.080 So, yeah, this is so fascinating. 0:09:23.120 --> 0:09:25.800 Okay, tell me more about the planets because obviously we're talking, 0:09:26.040 --> 0:09:28.800 so is everything based around different planets and what do 0:09:28.880 --> 0:09:30.680 different planet If you could pick a few of the 0:09:30.679 --> 0:09:34.000 planets that really create the most impact. 0:09:34.280 --> 0:09:36.400 Yeah, I'm glad you asked that because we have spent 0:09:36.520 --> 0:09:39.760 so much time trying to figure out how to explain this. 0:09:39.960 --> 0:09:40.920 Okay, great, Yeah. 0:09:40.840 --> 0:09:43.160 We even have a code of course we do once 0:09:43.160 --> 0:09:46.520 a year called become your Own Astrologer, and we talk 0:09:46.600 --> 0:09:49.560 about it with the movie metaphors. So we talk about 0:09:49.880 --> 0:09:52.840 the planets being like the actors in the movie of 0:09:52.880 --> 0:09:57.360 your life, like your soul I believe, picks the exact 0:09:57.440 --> 0:10:00.520 moment to be born, so it gets this cosmic with 0:10:00.600 --> 0:10:04.880 all the strengths and challenges and opportunities to evolve. So 0:10:05.480 --> 0:10:08.160 the planets are like the actors the movie of your Life. 0:10:08.200 --> 0:10:12.480 The Sun is the main character, so we're Sagittarius. Our 0:10:12.520 --> 0:10:14.559 main character is going to have the traits of that. 0:10:14.720 --> 0:10:16.720 And then the zodiac signs that they're in are like 0:10:16.760 --> 0:10:20.360 the roles they're playing, the costumes they're wearing, that sort 0:10:20.440 --> 0:10:20.720 of thing. 0:10:21.040 --> 0:10:25.760 Wow, and can astrology tell someone like what detail can 0:10:25.800 --> 0:10:26.680 astrology go into? 0:10:26.720 --> 0:10:29.880 I know you said, yeah, very specific, Yeah, especially the moon. 0:10:30.040 --> 0:10:33.040 So we really started getting obsessed when we learned that 0:10:33.080 --> 0:10:37.640 we had a moon in Scorpio, which explained so the 0:10:37.679 --> 0:10:40.640 moon is if the sun is the main character, the 0:10:40.679 --> 0:10:46.760 moon is like the private backstage you know, best supporting, yeah, 0:10:46.840 --> 0:10:49.559 or like the Ma Mager kind of of your chart, 0:10:49.920 --> 0:10:53.800 like do this, do more of this? You know, only 0:10:53.840 --> 0:10:57.240 the people who know you closely will really know your 0:10:57.320 --> 0:11:02.000 moon sign, but it has so much influence over you. Yeah, 0:11:02.080 --> 0:11:04.200 the moon, and I think more and more is people 0:11:04.240 --> 0:11:07.800 become more comfortable talking about their feelings and trauma and 0:11:07.840 --> 0:11:11.000 attachment syles. Our moon signs are kind of showing up 0:11:11.040 --> 0:11:15.240 more and more. But Moon and Scorpio for us was like, whoa, yeah, 0:11:15.360 --> 0:11:17.840 I do have these like deep feelings that I don't 0:11:17.880 --> 0:11:21.560 want every I'm not just as Sagittarius wild child, you know. 0:11:21.760 --> 0:11:25.440 And so that and then we actually have Mercury which 0:11:25.480 --> 0:11:30.200 is communication, Venus which is love, and creativity in Mars 0:11:30.240 --> 0:11:33.040 which is your drive, and Scorpio too. So that was 0:11:33.120 --> 0:11:35.640 what when I read that, I was like, oh my god, 0:11:36.200 --> 0:11:39.640 I wonder we want to solve every mystery people tick. 0:11:39.800 --> 0:11:43.000 So yeah, that's what happens. As people see their charts. 0:11:43.040 --> 0:11:47.319 They discover these dimensions themselves that don't always go neatly together, 0:11:47.920 --> 0:11:51.720 and we divide it between the inner planets, the personal planets, 0:11:51.720 --> 0:11:54.880 and the outer planets. So that's so easier grouping to 0:11:54.960 --> 0:11:59.280 think of it, the inner planets Mercury, so the Sun 0:11:59.320 --> 0:12:02.600 and Moon we call the planets in astrology Mercury, Venus, 0:12:02.600 --> 0:12:05.040 and Mars. They move pretty quickly through the zodiac, so 0:12:05.080 --> 0:12:07.839 they influence the way you would deal with people. When 0:12:07.880 --> 0:12:10.319 someone wants to love reading, we look at that or 0:12:10.480 --> 0:12:13.240 day life. But then the outer planets when you're looking 0:12:13.240 --> 0:12:17.560 at your bigger purpose. You know, Jupiter will show where 0:12:17.559 --> 0:12:21.080 you're lucky, and every twelve years, Jupiter will return to 0:12:21.080 --> 0:12:22.880 where it was when you're born. And you have this, 0:12:23.360 --> 0:12:26.319 you may have moved here on one of your Jupiter returns. 0:12:27.160 --> 0:12:29.400 Yes, I've had about Jupiter time. I definitely I was 0:12:29.400 --> 0:12:31.000 going through that phase when I was moving. 0:12:31.200 --> 0:12:34.719 Oh of course, there you go. See. And then Saturn 0:12:34.840 --> 0:12:37.839 the Saturn return. Saturn takes twenty nine and a half 0:12:37.920 --> 0:12:40.280 years to go through all the signs and return to 0:12:40.280 --> 0:12:42.080 where it was when you were born. So around just 0:12:42.120 --> 0:12:45.680 before thirty people kind of go through this right of 0:12:45.880 --> 0:12:49.320 passage where you're like, Okay, I'm going to be an 0:12:49.360 --> 0:12:52.520 adult now I'm going to take this on and to 0:12:52.600 --> 0:12:57.400 explain that. So your chart never changes. But where astrologers 0:12:57.400 --> 0:13:00.480 become oracles is we do what's called a by wheel, 0:13:00.760 --> 0:13:04.400 So you wrap a second chart around your birth chart, 0:13:04.520 --> 0:13:07.160 and it's almost like the ticking clock moving, so you 0:13:07.200 --> 0:13:12.160 can see the planet's moving and activating parts of your 0:13:12.280 --> 0:13:16.599 chart as they move, so you'll have cycles and phases 0:13:16.720 --> 0:13:18.720 where certain things will happen. You can also do that 0:13:18.760 --> 0:13:21.760 with a couple or a business partner. You can take 0:13:21.800 --> 0:13:26.040 one chart and another layer them and see where they activate, 0:13:26.080 --> 0:13:28.240 and you can combine the two charts. One of our 0:13:28.240 --> 0:13:32.080 books is called Super Couple, where every relationship has a 0:13:32.120 --> 0:13:35.160 third chart that's a blend of the two as well. 0:13:35.240 --> 0:13:38.319 So it's endlessly fascinating. 0:13:38.400 --> 0:13:41.320 And if people come to you with specific questions, Okay, 0:13:41.400 --> 0:13:43.760 let's say someone gives you their talk, can you do 0:13:43.880 --> 0:13:46.800 everything from know whether they're going to get a job, 0:13:46.880 --> 0:13:49.560 to know when they're going to die, to like what 0:13:50.520 --> 0:13:51.400 if you wanted to? 0:13:51.640 --> 0:13:52.800 Could you know you wanted to? 0:13:52.920 --> 0:13:56.719 You might be able to predict that. But I don't 0:13:56.760 --> 0:13:59.880 think anyone not predict is what I like to say. 0:14:00.120 --> 0:14:02.120 Like think of it as like your life is like 0:14:02.160 --> 0:14:07.880 a long highway and there's entrances and exits, so something 0:14:08.000 --> 0:14:10.520 could happen, but I don't. I think that we have 0:14:10.640 --> 0:14:14.720 free will and our souls have some decisions, so don't 0:14:14.840 --> 0:14:18.440 I don't ever like to predict a death, Like what 0:14:18.559 --> 0:14:20.640 good is it going to do? You tell someone that 0:14:20.800 --> 0:14:23.080 you know? People want to know. Some people will do it, 0:14:23.120 --> 0:14:26.040 and some people will you know. But I think, okay, 0:14:26.040 --> 0:14:29.480 if someone wanted to change jobs, we could definitely look 0:14:29.520 --> 0:14:32.040 and be like next year is a much more favorable 0:14:32.160 --> 0:14:37.080 cycle between these months, and it gives people validation and relief. 0:14:37.160 --> 0:14:40.080 Often they're already thinking that way and oh good, I 0:14:40.080 --> 0:14:42.360 didn't want to do that till March. You just made 0:14:42.400 --> 0:14:44.480 me feel okay about making this decision. 0:14:44.720 --> 0:14:46.520 So I find most people come to you when they've 0:14:46.520 --> 0:14:49.440 got a problem or issue or worry or can should 0:14:49.440 --> 0:14:51.200 people be getting their charts to ride regularly? 0:14:51.720 --> 0:14:55.000 I think people come to us for two reasons. One 0:14:55.480 --> 0:14:59.400 is if they just want to know their basic cosmic blueprint, 0:15:00.080 --> 0:15:02.800 never had their birth chart done. They want to know 0:15:02.840 --> 0:15:06.320 who am I according to the stars, what's here for me? 0:15:06.520 --> 0:15:10.880 And then another way is you know, timing of a 0:15:11.000 --> 0:15:15.160 crossroads or a decision or planning to help. We like 0:15:15.200 --> 0:15:18.440 to help people with planning or oh, someone came back 0:15:18.480 --> 0:15:21.640 into your life from your past, what's going on? How 0:15:21.680 --> 0:15:25.160 should you handle it? It's usually is something that they're like, Okay, 0:15:25.160 --> 0:15:27.320 I can't really figure this one out on my own. 0:15:27.480 --> 0:15:30.040 Maybe it would be good to get a little guy almost. 0:15:30.080 --> 0:15:32.880 I mean, you could literally work with an astrologer every 0:15:32.960 --> 0:15:34.200 week basically. 0:15:33.840 --> 0:15:36.200 Right, Yeah, if some people really do that. 0:15:36.360 --> 0:15:41.200 We have some clients that we clients, businesses, teams that 0:15:41.240 --> 0:15:44.080 we died regularly, but we try to give people some 0:15:44.160 --> 0:15:46.720 of the tools to figure that out themselves too. 0:15:47.000 --> 0:15:48.040 And you mentioned free will. 0:15:48.160 --> 0:15:50.200 I would love to know, because I think that's always 0:15:50.200 --> 0:15:53.080 the debate where what if I end up being told 0:15:53.120 --> 0:15:56.720 all these things about my astrology and then I'm waiting 0:15:56.760 --> 0:16:00.760 for them to happen, and I'm I have a friend who, oh, 0:16:00.840 --> 0:16:02.600 you're going to meet your partner is going to be 0:16:03.000 --> 0:16:05.480 with the name like the big first that is going 0:16:05.520 --> 0:16:05.800 to be Ja. 0:16:06.520 --> 0:16:07.120 Let's just say. 0:16:07.400 --> 0:16:10.640 And then every person that she meets with the letter 0:16:10.720 --> 0:16:13.400 J and she's like, face might be oh god, yeah, 0:16:13.560 --> 0:16:15.920 she is definitely him. They said it was gonna be Ja, 0:16:16.000 --> 0:16:18.560 they said it's gonna have dark hair. Absolutely, this is 0:16:18.600 --> 0:16:21.760 my guy. And so I guess my question is how 0:16:21.800 --> 0:16:26.840 does one take on astrology without it becoming something that 0:16:26.920 --> 0:16:31.360 they are too dependent on and molding their life towards it. 0:16:31.840 --> 0:16:35.880 Absolutely. We like to say we advise using astrology as 0:16:35.920 --> 0:16:39.840 a tool, not a rule. Nobody knows that. The idea 0:16:39.960 --> 0:16:42.560 of learning your chart and learning how it works is 0:16:42.600 --> 0:16:46.520 to expand your consciousness, and as you expand your consciousness, 0:16:46.560 --> 0:16:49.440 you gain free will. I make the metaphor of like, 0:16:50.080 --> 0:16:53.200 say you get a new phone, you take it out 0:16:53.240 --> 0:16:55.240 of the box, you don't really know how to use 0:16:55.280 --> 0:16:59.720 all the features. As you learn how it's operating system works, 0:17:00.200 --> 0:17:03.520 you gain more ability to do things with that phone. 0:17:03.960 --> 0:17:05.919 But you don't just go phone, tell me how to 0:17:05.920 --> 0:17:09.240 live my life. So I think that's a misuse of astrology. Yes, 0:17:09.520 --> 0:17:13.080 we really discourage people from being exactly we'll see in 0:17:13.119 --> 0:17:15.639 a year. But yeah, you don't want to have an 0:17:15.680 --> 0:17:18.639 astrologer and be dependent, because then you're not doing the 0:17:18.680 --> 0:17:22.080 work the stars mean. For I think the planets and 0:17:22.080 --> 0:17:25.080 stars wants to co create our lives with them, not 0:17:25.240 --> 0:17:26.800 just be like, show me what to do. I'll be 0:17:26.920 --> 0:17:30.359 hiding for three weeks. Mercury's Red Year. I met my 0:17:30.560 --> 0:17:33.719 husband a friend of ours who's psychic. She was like, 0:17:33.760 --> 0:17:37.720 I see an aries coming for you, surrounded by boxes. 0:17:38.480 --> 0:17:41.560 So I was like, oh my god, and so I 0:17:41.600 --> 0:17:43.680 met a guy, an Aries, guy who I thought was cute. 0:17:43.680 --> 0:17:46.040 He was moving and you know, but the book says 0:17:46.119 --> 0:17:49.199 boxes boxes. And then I met a guy at my 0:17:49.359 --> 0:17:52.200 yoga class and we went out and he was in construction, 0:17:53.920 --> 0:17:55.560 and then I was like, oh my god, screw, this 0:17:55.640 --> 0:17:57.600 is not going to happen. And I just was like 0:17:57.880 --> 0:18:00.600 I went to Burning Man that year. I was like, 0:18:00.600 --> 0:18:03.240 I'm just gonna have fun. And then I get there 0:18:03.280 --> 0:18:06.520 and this guy is like building a geodesic dome and 0:18:06.640 --> 0:18:09.320 water filtration for our camp and I was like, what 0:18:09.440 --> 0:18:13.119 sign are you? It's like I'm an Aries. I was like, no, 0:18:13.280 --> 0:18:16.440 tally no. But then I married him for seventeen years. Oh, 0:18:17.760 --> 0:18:21.560 I was like just box. There was some boat boxes obvious, 0:18:21.640 --> 0:18:23.359 but I'm just saying, like, it's kind of funny. 0:18:23.480 --> 0:18:25.320 Maybe you picked your boxes right. 0:18:28.440 --> 0:18:31.720 Too, chee, but it was. Yeah, it was kind of 0:18:31.760 --> 0:18:33.879 like a universal joke with you and you get too 0:18:33.960 --> 0:18:36.159 attached to something too, It's like, no. 0:18:36.720 --> 0:18:38.960 No, how do you you know? 0:18:39.160 --> 0:18:41.560 I think one thing that's really difficult for people when 0:18:41.560 --> 0:18:45.320 it comes to choosing an astrologer or trusting in an 0:18:45.359 --> 0:18:49.000 astrologer is knowing whether they are for real. 0:18:49.200 --> 0:18:49.920 Like I think that's. 0:18:49.760 --> 0:18:54.040 Really difficult, and is there a way for people to 0:18:54.040 --> 0:18:54.679 to tell it? 0:18:54.800 --> 0:18:55.879 Are there like signs? 0:18:55.880 --> 0:18:57.720 Because you know, I think whenever I think of my 0:18:57.760 --> 0:19:00.679 birth chart, I think of it is something that I 0:19:00.720 --> 0:19:03.120 really have to treasure up because someone can find out 0:19:03.119 --> 0:19:06.680 so much information just by having your time of birth 0:19:06.720 --> 0:19:09.520 and the day that you were born, and it's for me. 0:19:09.560 --> 0:19:11.680 I always think of it as such protected information that 0:19:11.720 --> 0:19:13.280 I would want to give to someone that I really 0:19:13.320 --> 0:19:15.600 trust or that have the qualifications for it. 0:19:15.920 --> 0:19:18.440 How can people decide? 0:19:19.240 --> 0:19:22.560 I think this brings us back to neuroscience and our 0:19:22.640 --> 0:19:27.080 understanding of intuition. Her friend Haifa always talks about how 0:19:27.200 --> 0:19:31.040 she reminded me recently that ninety five percent of our 0:19:31.080 --> 0:19:36.240 decisions are made with our subconscious, which is just pattern recognitions. 0:19:36.480 --> 0:19:41.639 So a good astrologer will make you actually feel calmer, 0:19:41.840 --> 0:19:46.320 not afraid. Now, maybe the patterns that your brain is 0:19:46.359 --> 0:19:50.040 wired for are causing you to fear changes that would 0:19:50.080 --> 0:19:52.000 be positive for you. So you want to be self 0:19:52.040 --> 0:19:54.760 aware enough to know. Do I feel a little scared 0:19:54.880 --> 0:19:58.159 because I know I need to change, or because this 0:19:58.280 --> 0:20:01.840 feels wrong. I feel like maybe this person is scaring 0:20:01.840 --> 0:20:03.800 me so they can take advantage of me. And that 0:20:03.920 --> 0:20:08.399 kind of thing. So there's different kinds of discomfort, but 0:20:09.359 --> 0:20:13.080 the discomfort you feel, if any, with an astrologer, should 0:20:13.080 --> 0:20:16.120 be the kind that's pushing you to make growth that 0:20:16.160 --> 0:20:18.760 you needed, you know you need to do. It's like 0:20:18.920 --> 0:20:22.720 get recommendations too, I would say, like if and also 0:20:22.840 --> 0:20:25.359 you can watch them for a while on social media, 0:20:25.480 --> 0:20:27.400 make sure they have a presence and then you can 0:20:27.560 --> 0:20:30.560 feel that and see the kind of advice they give. 0:20:30.840 --> 0:20:33.320 Does it resonate with you? I mean not all astrologers 0:20:33.359 --> 0:20:37.080 are on social media. Some are some really great astrologers 0:20:37.080 --> 0:20:43.240 who just undercover, right, are like on their landline. Yeah, 0:20:43.440 --> 0:20:46.000 no one knows you better than you know yourself. That 0:20:46.160 --> 0:20:50.040 maybe an astrologer can see something that you can't, because 0:20:50.119 --> 0:20:54.040 human beings are our own biggest blind spots. But if 0:20:54.080 --> 0:20:57.560 it feels wrong, just press pause on the readings, be like, 0:20:57.600 --> 0:20:59.119 you know what, I don't know if that's going to 0:20:59.160 --> 0:21:01.639 resonate with me. Look, let's move to and new to 0:21:01.960 --> 0:21:04.879 unhect some people like people have come to us with 0:21:05.040 --> 0:21:06.960 like you know, nostrologers only I was never going to 0:21:07.040 --> 0:21:11.000 get married and that's so irresponsible. Oh yeah, and no 0:21:11.040 --> 0:21:13.360 one knows that that's the subject of free will. It's 0:21:13.440 --> 0:21:18.119 your question before in any moment. Some I've had a 0:21:18.119 --> 0:21:20.199 client who was like, where is my man? Am I 0:21:20.240 --> 0:21:21.520 going to get my you know? And I was like, 0:21:22.480 --> 0:21:25.440 are you going to be the space? Are you going 0:21:25.480 --> 0:21:29.040 to be the clearing the space that can attract ready 0:21:29.080 --> 0:21:32.480 to Yeah? What what do you think a relationship will 0:21:32.520 --> 0:21:34.840