Speaker 1: Broadcasting live from the Abraham Lincoln Radio Studio, the George
Speaker 1: Washington Broadcast Center, Jack Armstrong and Joe, Ketty arm Strong
Speaker 1: and Jetty and Key Armstrong and Yeddy. This has never
Speaker 1: happened before.
Speaker 2: We have a prince, the son, favored son of Queen Elizabeth,
Speaker 2: much loved Queen Elizabeth, now sitting in a.
Speaker 1: Jail cell.
Speaker 2: With we're told, a bed and a toilet in the cell.
Speaker 2: But no one in the royal family has ever been
Speaker 2: in this position. So, whether you know the royals or
Speaker 2: you don't know the royals, this is incredibly shocking.
Speaker 3: Katty k on MSNBC. First time a royal has been
Speaker 3: arrested in four hundred years. Four years, so that take
Speaker 3: it back to the time of shit since a royal
Speaker 3: has been elected. So Prince Andrews in a jail cell
Speaker 3: trying to turn his scepter into a shive, probably to
Speaker 3: protect himself.
Speaker 1: I assume he as a elfer soft for that sort
Speaker 1: of thing. You think they carry it with them. I'll
Speaker 1: tell you what you got arrested back in the day,
Speaker 1: like you were talking about, you'd think, oh, this is
Speaker 1: going to end badly.
Speaker 3: H Here's another interesting report from another bread We'll listen
Speaker 3: to anybody with a British accent.
Speaker 1: Listen.
Speaker 4: Prince Andrew's arrest lands at the top of the British
Speaker 4: state and to have a senior royal and custody on
Speaker 4: suspicion of misconducting and public office really shatters that aura
Speaker 4: of insulation around the monarchy. But I think that it
Speaker 4: also plays into a wider perception of Great Britain at
Speaker 4: the moment, which is that of a country crumbling, a
Speaker 4: country imploding. When you see this happening, even at the
Speaker 4: symbolic top the royal family, it really does make you
Speaker 4: think it feeds into that general mood of collapse, erosion,
Speaker 4: authority frame.
Speaker 1: I hadn't hadn't granted that myself, but yeah, they're Polity
Speaker 1: are just diseased and the national spirit is terrible right now.
Speaker 3: Well in their economy. So I've listened to a couple
Speaker 3: of podcasts that I've mentioned in the last six months
Speaker 3: from British reporters talking about, Hey, America, where where you're
Speaker 3: going to be in five, ten, fifteen years, whatever the
Speaker 3: number is. We're already there. We have overspent and time
Speaker 3: is up and we can no longer afford to keep
Speaker 3: on the track we're on, and a lot of it
Speaker 3: for them had to do with their whole ridiculous net
Speaker 3: zero caring about climate change thing. You couldn't do anything
Speaker 3: in that country unless you had net zero impact on
Speaker 3: the climate, which just crushed their economy and their GDP.
Speaker 1: Crushed innovation entrepreneurial spirit. Yeah, just terrible.
Speaker 3: And you got Prince Andrew running around giving away state
Speaker 3: secrets to h pervos touching underage girls.
Speaker 1: That doesn't help anything in return for access to yeah,
Speaker 1: Romanian women of loose morals. Yeah, that's quite a story.
Speaker 1: I don't know if it's do you know what?
Speaker 3: So it's a small segment of society in England that
Speaker 3: wants to get rid of the constitutional monarchy system.
Speaker 1: You know what.
Speaker 3: They call them Republicans. That's what they call that crowd
Speaker 3: in England. So if you hear the term republican, it's
Speaker 3: people that want to do away with the King and
Speaker 3: Queen having any power whatsoever. I don't know how much
Speaker 3: power they have. It's a constitutional monarchy, but I don't
Speaker 3: know how much. Not really any I don't Yeah, I
Speaker 3: don't think, not the way I understand it, is there
Speaker 3: really any power either? I mean the Prime minister. When
Speaker 3: you're elected, you have to go ask for permission from
Speaker 3: the Queen or king.
Speaker 1: But if they said go f yourself, I'm not sure
Speaker 1: it makes any difference. It's just an effort to tie
Speaker 1: Britain to their history back when they were a big deal.
Speaker 1: Or yeah, yeah, that's true too. It's just a feeling
Speaker 1: of continuity that it's tough for Americans under But yeah,
Speaker 1: the monarchies are stupid wherever they exist, even though I
Speaker 1: call for them about once a month. Tough for Americans
Speaker 1: understand for now.
Speaker 3: I wonder if we will have to understand it at
Speaker 3: some point, what it's like to go from being the
Speaker 3: world superpower to just another country, right, like happened with England.
Speaker 1: Well, now it's time for my trademark, Michael, you remember
Speaker 1: what my trademark is, of course, right, yell and at
Speaker 1: the staff. No, No, that's not it, idiot, No, My
Speaker 1: trademark is to be interesting, then depressing. If you could
Speaker 1: identify like three or four characteristics of a healthy, growing
Speaker 1: dynamic system and a shrinking way past its prime dying system,
Speaker 1: you'd pretty much have the difference between the US and Britain.
Speaker 1: But even if you identified those things. Nobody would care.
Speaker 1: They would just vote for more money out of the
Speaker 1: treasury for themselves. And in a related story, why the
Speaker 1: federal defat it has projected a surge in five charts.
Speaker 1: This from the Wall Street Journal. US debt will be
Speaker 1: more than one hundred percent of our US gross domestic
Speaker 1: product by later this year, according to the Congressional Budget Office.
Speaker 3: Imagine if your credit card debt was more than you
Speaker 3: make a year. Yeah, you would feel like you're in
Speaker 3: a pretty bad spot, wouldn't you.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and interest rates are rising anyway, If that doesn't
Speaker 1: depress you nothing, well, so perhaps we can move on.
Speaker 3: Michael Joe brought us the story about Reese's monkeys last hour.
Speaker 3: How about this hour we get to Reese's peanut butter cups.
Speaker 1: Can we hear that? And I've got the background information
Speaker 1: on it. You're clips six peanut butter on my chocolate. Well,
Speaker 1: you got chocolate in my pant butter two great taste,
Speaker 1: the taste great together. Reese's peanut butter cup, real milk chocolate,
Speaker 1: good old fashioned peanut butter.
Speaker 5: U's peanut butter cup.
Speaker 3: So why is peanut butter cup in the news today?
Speaker 3: I love or loved a peanut butter cup in my life.
Speaker 3: I've always found them delicious. But the grandson of the
Speaker 3: inventor has lashed out at the Hershey Company, accusing the
Speaker 3: company of hurting the Riese's brand by shifting shifting the
Speaker 3: cheaper ingredients in many of its products.
Speaker 1: Oh like not the prime cuts. A monkey in the
Speaker 1: reesis peanut butter cuffs.
Speaker 3: Hershey acknowledges recipe changes, but said Wednesday there was trying
Speaker 3: to be custard. Demand for innovation. High cocoa prices has
Speaker 3: led Hershey, you know, their manufacturers to experiment. We're eating
Speaker 3: less chocolate in recent years and a different kind of
Speaker 3: chocolate blah blah blah, replaced milk chocolate with compound coatings
Speaker 3: and peanut butter with peanut cream.
Speaker 1: When did this happen? Has this already happened?
Speaker 3: Because I feel like I had a peanut butter cup
Speaker 3: fairly recently and I didn't think it was very good,
Speaker 3: and I've always loved them, Do you know, Michael, has
Speaker 3: that already occurred?
Speaker 1: The cheapening of peanut butrix.
Speaker 6: So because I'm with you, Jack, I'm eating them, and yeah,
Speaker 6: they're not as good.
Speaker 3: Like noticeably crappier by quite a bit in my experience.
Speaker 1: Wow, I don't eat candy because I'm not a child.
Speaker 1: But it's kind of like, it's kind of like we
Speaker 1: were talking about pizza Hut pizza a week or so ago. Yeah,
Speaker 1: how that used to be a really good pizza, and
Speaker 1: I feel like I feel like the ingredients changed. Yes,
Speaker 1: over the years, Yes, and just aren't the same thing anymore. Honey,
Speaker 1: why is cheese spelled with a Z in their ingredients? Well,
Speaker 1: they asked themselves a question many companies do. Is this
Speaker 1: economy change? Do we want to compete on price or
Speaker 1: on quality? I just bit into a cat toy? Why
Speaker 1: is that? That's weird? This sausage pizza tastes hard to
Speaker 1: describe feline. Yes, no, we have no reason to believe
Speaker 1: that that is certainly not no parody or satire or
Speaker 1: some lack of stray dogs running around taco bells is
Speaker 1: just coincidence, better better, better efforts to animal control. All
Speaker 1: of this is parody and satire or whatever word you
Speaker 1: have to say to keep yourself out of legal problem.
Speaker 1: Clearly clearly intended to be ridiculous.
Speaker 3: Yes, so ridiculous, so far from the truth. Your honor
Speaker 3: that no normal person could believe it was meant to
Speaker 3: be true?
Speaker 1: Right, I would ingest a pizza Hut pizza right now, happily,
Speaker 1: including the cat sausage. I mean the sausage. Oh no,
Speaker 1: you took it a step too far. Joe Getty took
Speaker 1: it a step too far. They make fine pizzas that
Speaker 1: I would eat zero cat. I'm reasonably certain negligible amounts
Speaker 1: of cat. Practically hard to measure the amount that little
Speaker 1: is enough? Oh boy, that has perhaps reset and come
Speaker 1: back and talk to our lawyers during the taking and
Speaker 1: the wedding. We'll be right back.
Speaker 5: A new study into our food habits found that forty
Speaker 5: trips to fast casual restaurants begin with simple fatigue.
Speaker 1: Yeah, we know.
Speaker 5: There's a reason Olive Garden slogan is when you're here,
Speaker 5: you just you.
Speaker 1: Just can't today. Yeah, that's funny, I just can't today. Wow,
Speaker 1: there's a lot of truth there. It is. That could
Speaker 1: be like the entire frozen pizza industry. I'm not cooking.
Speaker 1: I just can't today. So a couple of brief things
Speaker 1: for you. Then back to the incredibly interesting significant social
Speaker 1: media trial at the bottom of the hour. Huh, yeah. Yeah,
Speaker 1: So a couple of things. Number one, this is a
Speaker 1: great point from Nelly Bowls in the Free Press. She says,
Speaker 1: don't tell me to be scared of weaymo's. Here's a
Speaker 1: ninety two year old who crashed into a grocery store
Speaker 1: in the Westwood neighborhood in LA last week, killing three people.
Speaker 1: Ay I remember hearing that story. Oh, video is crazy.
Speaker 1: She hits a bikelist zooms into the store. As of now,
Speaker 1: she reportedly faces no charges for these three deaths, but
Speaker 1: she gotta take away these people's licenses. Blah blah blah,
Speaker 1: and you've got the weaymo That quote unquote hit a
Speaker 1: little kid who ran out behind part cars. The thing
Speaker 1: stopped miraculor slowed miraculously quickly, barely hurt. The kids, spared
Speaker 1: a life. It was a miracle of technology, and it
Speaker 1: was portrayed as Oh, these dangerous rogue Weaimo cars. It's
Speaker 1: really crazy the way media can twist the story.
Speaker 3: It is, and I'm not exactly sure why, because media
Speaker 3: is left. I think they would be pro electric, you know,
Speaker 3: and they're always into safety. Waimos are safer than people driving.
Speaker 3: I don't know what's going on.
Speaker 1: There. You know, I've been describing the media's lemmings for
Speaker 1: a very very long time, and I think there's a
Speaker 1: certain personality type that goes along. They are not They
Speaker 1: don't appraise things based on the truth, but on the
Speaker 1: social acceptability of them, and they just go along with
Speaker 1: the crowd. And so they just repeat the same crap
Speaker 1: everybody else repeats in the mainstream media. And I think
Speaker 1: that skepticism of our perception that auto self driving cars
Speaker 1: are super dangerous. I don't know. For some reason, that's
Speaker 1: just what their people tell them to say, so they say,
Speaker 1: or just.
Speaker 3: Not safe enough yet when they're already safer than although
Speaker 3: I am confused about that statistic.
Speaker 1: As I've said before, if.
Speaker 3: You eliminated like the bottom fifteen percent of drivers, are
Speaker 3: they safer than most drivers?
Speaker 1: I don't know if that's true or not. Great question, Yeah,
Speaker 1: don't know. Then we got this from the fabulous Matt
Speaker 1: from Fremont, the anti Eileen Gou, the googan if you
Speaker 1: will of figure skating, O, Katie, that was smooth, very good.
Speaker 1: Thank you. Yeah, ran across this, Matt writes while reading
Speaker 1: about Alyssa lu the only American with shot at meddling
Speaker 1: in the women's figure skating blah blah. Her father fled
Speaker 1: from China after the Chian Men's Square massacre. Wow. Lou,
Speaker 1: who grew up in Oakland, was targeted by China as
Speaker 1: part of the same project that brought Eileen Gou into
Speaker 1: the Communist fold for the twenty twenty two Beijing Winter Olympics. Ah,
Speaker 1: that's interesting, but her dad told the CCP to f
Speaker 1: write off. China apparently then sent groups of spies to
Speaker 1: harass and intimidate Lou and her father. In retaliation, the
Speaker 1: US State Department had to put special protection in place
Speaker 1: to protect her. Have you heard that story? No, she's
Speaker 1: a darn good figure skater too. It seems like a
Speaker 1: nice young lady, and Matt writes thought it was interesting
Speaker 1: to see the flip side of the Eileen Goo coin.
Speaker 1: Not everyone wants the dirty COMI coin they're offering. No,
Speaker 1: Iileen Gou is probably too smart for her own good.
Speaker 1: She's like super brilliant and has twisted her logic into
Speaker 1: making this make sense. Why the media goes along with it?
Speaker 1: I do not get. I mean that just seems like
Speaker 1: so obvious. You're American born, going to Stanford and you're
Speaker 1: skating for the communist Chinese. I mean, it's already made
Speaker 1: story of interest, but they portray it the other direction.
Speaker 1: It's awful. It's unforgiven, like it's just a feel good story.
Speaker 1: Isn't this great as all this? She's pretty, she's rich,
Speaker 1: she's rejected America. Yes, she's our friend, say the media.
Speaker 3: Isn't that cool that she values her mom's cultural heritage
Speaker 3: so much that she's skating for China?
Speaker 1: You morons? And then Katie, you might appreciate this. Mikayla
Speaker 1: from Michigan dropped us to note if you ever want
Speaker 1: to write us an email, it's mail bag at Armstrong
Speaker 1: Giddy dot com. We feature some emails early in the show.
Speaker 1: Hour one of the show. I don't know, maybe we'll
Speaker 1: change that, sprinkle them in. I don't know. But Mikaela
Speaker 1: from Michigan is with child and is cursing me for
Speaker 1: introducing her to Keyo's Potato chips.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, that was I was upset with you for
Speaker 3: not sharing, and now I am.
Speaker 1: Upset with you for sharing. Really they're that good? Huh,
Speaker 1: they're so good? Jack, She was a fan since she
Speaker 1: was in high school and now is birthing and raising chin.
Speaker 1: I realize it's meant to be a compliment. That's not
Speaker 1: how it lands. Hey, one foot in the grave. What
Speaker 1: are you gonna do? Darn you, she says. How do
Speaker 1: you sleep at night? Keeping those balsamic vinegar and sea
Speaker 1: salt chips? They're freaking delicious. The ruffles crisp in the
Speaker 1: most perfect way. I'm addicted. Did my pregnancy brain just
Speaker 1: order six more bags because shipping his eye, Yes, yes
Speaker 1: it did. Tes definitely don't sleep on the honey popcorn. Oh,
Speaker 1: I love potato chips, so I got to try those.
Speaker 1: Oh they're so good.
Speaker 3: They're not inexpensive, but health wise they any healthier?
Speaker 1: Are they just also just potato chips? Checking around to
Speaker 1: see if I have an s to give. I don't, Katie,
Speaker 1: what kind are you eating?
Speaker 7: Oh?
Speaker 1: The saltan the vinegar ones. I can't get off that
Speaker 1: flavor right now. Oh it's a great flavor. It's a
Speaker 1: good flavor. He's an onion one. I'm telling you. That's
Speaker 1: I dream about it at night. Yes, Jack, I don't know.
Speaker 3: What's going to be going on by the time Katie's
Speaker 3: first kid is of school age, but I know right
Speaker 3: now I've had a handful of conversations just in the
Speaker 3: last week with parents about smartphones and social media and
Speaker 3: stuff like that. If you're a parent and your kids
Speaker 3: are older than like, I don't know, eight, it's just
Speaker 3: a constant thing on trying to figure out how much
Speaker 3: they're plugged into the bad world that is out there,
Speaker 3: how much they've accessed the world of drug sex and
Speaker 3: rock and roll or whatever in a way that was
Speaker 3: impossible for us when we were younger, coming in contact
Speaker 3: with the worst actors out there, and it's addictive. So
Speaker 3: that's why I think the social media trial that's going
Speaker 3: on in Los Angeles right now so interesting. We've got
Speaker 3: a couple of more clips from that coming up. Zuckerberg
Speaker 3: was on the stand yesterday. We'll be on the stand
Speaker 3: again today. I assume they're going to talk to somebody
Speaker 3: from Google at some point.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I wish we could get Marxism sucks and your
Speaker 1: teachers are insane onto TikTok somehow. Actually the commanis Chinese
Speaker 1: are promoting the opposite of that, but seems like the
Speaker 1: only way to reach the kids.
Speaker 3: Well, the two most dangerous ones, TikTok and snapchat, wisely
Speaker 3: settled out of court before this trial began and are
Speaker 3: kind of off the hook.
Speaker 1: I can write a check for five million bucks and
Speaker 1: we don't get try through the headlines done well, and
Speaker 1: they probably are, would be be much harder for them
Speaker 1: to justify their thing Snapchat, which seems to be designed
Speaker 1: by someone who aids parents, by the way, but we
Speaker 1: got more on that coming up at a second. Stay here,
Speaker 1: Armstrong and Getty.
Speaker 7: They take a vulnerable child, while all kids are vulnerable
Speaker 7: their self esteem and what girls face, especially on these
Speaker 7: platforms is horrifying to have to go through that, and
Speaker 7: it really has created such a huge mental health crisis
Speaker 7: in this country.
Speaker 5: If they take responsibility, then they're going to have to
Speaker 5: change their business model and how they do business.
Speaker 3: Talking about Instagram and YouTube specifically and the role it
Speaker 3: plays in making kids miserable and how addictive it is,
Speaker 3: and like, I understand why that mom there is so upset.
Speaker 3: There are moms in the courtroom there whose kids have
Speaker 3: committed suicide, parents in the courtroom whatever, And obviously that
Speaker 3: would be an unimaginably awful but but I just don't
Speaker 3: get how you can blame Facebook, Meta and Google for
Speaker 3: something that is just going to be part of all
Speaker 3: of our lives going.
Speaker 1: Forward, and we're going to have to figure out how
Speaker 1: to navigate it. Well, I gotta QUI. I don't think
Speaker 1: you can find them liable, but I think you can
Speaker 1: blame them. I think you can say this is evil,
Speaker 1: this is bad, this is not good for me, my heart,
Speaker 1: my soul, my children, my family, this is something we
Speaker 1: should shun.
Speaker 3: So you would court, But so you would you think
Speaker 3: they should like not be in the business and let
Speaker 3: somebody else do the business, just.
Speaker 1: Out of morals or oh no, no, no, it's the
Speaker 1: same reason I don't go to strip clubs or smoke
Speaker 1: potter or a number of other things that are legal.
Speaker 1: But they're just a bad idea for me.
Speaker 3: On the stand yesterday, Mark Zuckerberg, who is a gazillionaire
Speaker 3: and owns Facebook Meta, said Meta no longer sets goals
Speaker 3: to increase time spent on apps and focus instead on
Speaker 3: making services useful. I mean, all these distinctions of we're
Speaker 3: just so useful that people stay on it all day long,
Speaker 3: as opposed to we're trying to keep you on in
Speaker 3: an addictive way. I mean, these are very squishy ideas well.
Speaker 1: He's a liar.
Speaker 3: Plaintiffs introduced internal documents suggesting past efforts to grow user
Speaker 3: engagement and time on the app, creating tension with that claim.
Speaker 3: Creating tension with that claim. That's a hell of a
Speaker 3: way to write it. Yeah, So Zuckerberg actually said yesterday that.
Speaker 1: Ba ba bah bah bah. Let me find the exact wording,
Speaker 1: because I thought it was so good. Quote.
Speaker 3: Not trying to maximize the amount of time people spend
Speaker 3: every month on the app, You're not.
Speaker 1: That is silly.
Speaker 3: That is like McDonald's saying, we're not trying to get
Speaker 3: people to eat more often here and more when they
Speaker 3: get here. I mean, that's so what you're in business for,
Speaker 3: and which is fine, by the way, you get to
Speaker 3: do that. And just the idea that Thomas the tank
Speaker 3: Engine wasn't trying to get you to tune in again
Speaker 3: tomorrow or Blues Clues when Steve at the end of
Speaker 3: the show would say see you tomorrow. See so when
Speaker 3: he said see you tomorrow, that was actively trying to
Speaker 3: keep your kid engaged in the show for another episode.
Speaker 1: If there's a damn cliffhangers, how can I resist? Of
Speaker 1: course it was Yeah, boy, Zuckerberg had the chocolate he
Speaker 1: faced kids, saying he didn't eat the cookies feel to him.
Speaker 1: I can't believe he didn't go that far.
Speaker 3: I thought the defense was going to be, We're doing
Speaker 3: the same thing every product on Earth does. We're trying
Speaker 3: to sell as much of it as we can to people,
Speaker 3: just like.
Speaker 1: We're trying to make it enjoyable.
Speaker 3: Ford is trying to hook you on Ford Cars for
Speaker 3: the rest of your life. You know, I've used all
Speaker 3: the other examples McDonald's TV show Sports. The NFL wants
Speaker 3: you to watch the next game. That's why they keep
Speaker 3: teasing the next game. During this game, they scrolled immediately
Speaker 3: to the next game because I as one of the
Speaker 3: knocks on Instagram, there's no end to the scroll. The
Speaker 3: endless scroll is designed to addict you. So is going
Speaker 3: from the you know, touchdown in this game to the
Speaker 3: kickoff of the next game. I mean, I don't see
Speaker 3: the difference really, right. I hate what product. I wish
Speaker 3: they didn't exist, but I don't I don't understand drawing
Speaker 3: those lines between what Facebook is doing and every other
Speaker 3: product on Earth. Yeah, I think it might become a
Speaker 3: question of if they have said, look, we've realized our
Speaker 3: product screws up kids' brains. The physical function of their
Speaker 3: brains to their detriment. But we're going to keep doing it.
Speaker 3: That's a different question. That's a more specific question. Would
Speaker 3: that that might that might really hurt meta in that
Speaker 3: they get sued for billions of dollars? But wouldn't another
Speaker 3: company do the same thing but just not say out
Speaker 3: loud but they know.
Speaker 1: It's addicting kids? Well? No, I think what's that precedent
Speaker 1: is set and everybody understands the mechanisms of how your
Speaker 1: brain changes, and whether TikTok it absolutely does whether they
Speaker 1: do the same things in similar enough ways that they'll
Speaker 1: be liable as well, Yeah, it'll all come crashing down.
Speaker 1: So so crashing down in what way? What would it
Speaker 1: look like? Oh gosh, just unlimited liability for screwing up kids' brains.
Speaker 1: But what would do how significantly change their algorithms? Probably
Speaker 1: in a deceptive way that this court spend the rest
Speaker 1: of our lives trying to catch up to.
Speaker 3: I don't know, Well, so are you only looking at
Speaker 3: it as a problem for addicting kids or for adults?
Speaker 1: Also? Are they dulse two? Yeah, I don't know if
Speaker 1: you're going to get as much liability there and I
Speaker 1: hate freaking liability lawsuits, most of them. Again, I fall back.
Speaker 1: I just want people to be aware of who these
Speaker 1: people are, what their products do to them, and then
Speaker 1: make an intelligent decision whether you want to be part
Speaker 1: of that.
Speaker 3: Who was it laced potato chips who had slogan, but
Speaker 3: you can't eat just one? I think so whichever, it's true,
Speaker 3: it's very difficulty just one your honor. This company's slogan
Speaker 3: was I'll bet you can't eat just one. They knew
Speaker 3: that it was tricking your brain by making the taste
Speaker 3: dissolve instantly into wanting more of their product, which is
Speaker 3: causes OBCD. I mean, I just I don't see like
Speaker 3: there's that much difference.
Speaker 1: Between these things.
Speaker 3: No, it's it's a good comparison. And I hate the
Speaker 3: social media thing. I wish it was never invented. I'm
Speaker 3: such a lud eyed I really honestly think we're better
Speaker 3: off without the Internet.
Speaker 1: I really do.
Speaker 3: I heard some people mocking people like me who say
Speaker 3: that sort of thing the other day on a podcast.
Speaker 3: Just think, and it's it's ridiculous, but I really think
Speaker 3: the world is better before the Internet. Certainly raising kids,
Speaker 3: you know what, we're living through.
Speaker 1: It's just occur to me is the novelty era of
Speaker 1: the Internet and social media, and I think that's I
Speaker 1: think future sure people in generations will have a better
Speaker 1: understanding of the Internet is a vast opportunity and good stuff,
Speaker 1: great stuff, neutral stuff, and terrible stuff is available there.
Speaker 1: You got to be a better consumer of it. I
Speaker 1: hope you're going to be. Like the difference between watching
Speaker 1: a good, solid news show or a great drama and
Speaker 1: watching Jerry Effing Springer every single day. People will start
Speaker 1: to make those decisions.
Speaker 3: I hope you're more optimistic about that than I am.
Speaker 3: I hope you're right. I love that. I would love
Speaker 3: it if it happened the way it happened with tobacco,
Speaker 3: once everybody found out, oh, this is poison and it's
Speaker 3: addictive on purpose and there's nothing good for you. You know,
Speaker 3: there's there's a fair amount of social stigma around smoking,
Speaker 3: and the percentage of people smoke is a lot less
Speaker 3: than it used to be, and it's frowned upon by
Speaker 3: a lot of people. Can that happen for staring at
Speaker 3: your phone and everything?
Speaker 1: I don't know. I'm actually not that optimistic about society
Speaker 1: quote unquote, I think society you screwed. I just think
Speaker 1: individuals will start to get smarter. More and more individuals
Speaker 1: will get smarter and smarter about it, everyone, including the kids.
Speaker 1: Everyone was when I'm struck anew.
Speaker 3: I live in a college town, and I was just
Speaker 3: sitting at the stoplight, and here are two guys with backpacks,
Speaker 3: obviously walking from classes back to their dorms or whatever
Speaker 3: they're doing. And they're walking along the bike path, and
Speaker 3: they're both staring at their phone as they walked, and just.
Speaker 1: The idea that.
Speaker 3: Not that many years ago that didn't exist at all,
Speaker 3: they would have been looking around. There's a big difference
Speaker 3: between looking around with your own thoughts then staring at
Speaker 3: that phone almost certainly taking in useless information. It's not
Speaker 3: like they're probably reading Shakespeare or whatever, and they.
Speaker 1: Would have been killalking to each other. We used to
Speaker 1: go the fraternity where I lived for a chunk of
Speaker 1: my college years, was two longish blocks away from the
Speaker 1: seven to eleven and twelve months a year. We would
Speaker 1: go gulp. We would get a big gulp because that
Speaker 1: was our caffeine of choice back in the day, and
Speaker 1: you'd always yell, hey, gulpin who wants to go. You'd
Speaker 1: end up with three four ten guys going to get gulps.
Speaker 1: You had to have your gulping glove. In the winter time,
Speaker 1: you had to have at least one glove because you
Speaker 1: couldn't hold that thing all the way home in the
Speaker 1: winter in Champagne or Van Illinois. That's funny, but it was.
Speaker 1: It was a hoot. Yeah, it was always a hoot. Yeah. God,
Speaker 1: I long for those days. I can't imagine we all
Speaker 1: would have trek down their eyes on our phones, not
Speaker 1: exchanging a word. It hurts my heart to even think
Speaker 1: that we had the same thing.
Speaker 3: I lived in a duplex and we were a couple
Speaker 3: of blocks from the Stop two shop which had twenty
Speaker 3: five cent hot dogs, and me and a couple other
Speaker 3: guys would walk over there. But yeah, and talking the
Speaker 3: whole way and laughing and having fun. And I know,
Speaker 3: because I live in a college town that now you
Speaker 3: would be all three of you.
Speaker 1: Staring at your phone, not talking to each other. Yeah,
Speaker 1: which is weird, and but but but I just I
Speaker 1: don't know if it's going away. And uh, hey, by
Speaker 1: the way, just in case you're wondering, gladys is on
Speaker 1: her break. She joined the a f l c Io
Speaker 1: last week. She's union now and we just gets took
Speaker 1: an hour break every two hours. We just two through two,
Speaker 1: really reminiscing stories on there. Noel Harck stuffed out her
Speaker 1: cigarette and now she's back. I'll play the harp when
Speaker 1: the union says I have to not until glad Us
Speaker 1: clicks her cigarette on the ground and then stomps it
Speaker 1: out with her sensible shoe, sits down and plays her
Speaker 1: damn heart because we were reminiscing.
Speaker 3: That's gotta be among I was thinking sitting there at
Speaker 3: the stoplight, watching these two people walk among the biggest
Speaker 3: I said to my son, this has got to be
Speaker 3: among the biggest changes of human beings ever in evolution history.
Speaker 3: Hasn't that an amount of a short amount of time.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and in a kind of bigger scale I'm always
Speaker 1: talking about are our perception of everything used to be personal,
Speaker 1: immediate and physical. It was what we heard ourselves, what
Speaker 1: we saw ourselves, what we do, the ideas we exchanged,
Speaker 1: the people we knew. It was one hundred percent personal
Speaker 1: until a blink of an eye ago, evolutionarily speaking, when
Speaker 1: the written words started to get passed around and then
Speaker 1: broadcast media and all but the internet, you know, the
Speaker 1: entire world all the time. The worst people in the
Speaker 1: world can jump out of my phone and try to
Speaker 1: persuade me as something that's like a tenth of a
Speaker 1: tenth of a tenth of a blink of an eye,
Speaker 1: and we have no idea how to handle it.
Speaker 3: So the tobacco companies got hit with I should look
Speaker 3: it up. Read amazingly large judgments h many, many, many
Speaker 3: billions of dollars. So if that happened to Facebook and
Speaker 3: Google and then you got these other close to two
Speaker 3: thousand lawsuits going forward based on how this one turns out,
Speaker 3: will all these companies have to be so damn careful
Speaker 3: about their addictive qualities.
Speaker 1: I just don't know if we would make a dent.
Speaker 1: I don't know. I think they're some of them are
Speaker 1: the greatest minds of our generation, and they will find
Speaker 1: ways to keep it going right and get around the laws.
Speaker 3: Do you have any thoughts on that? Our text line
Speaker 3: is four one five two nine five KFTC. Zuckerberg's back
Speaker 3: on the stand today.
Speaker 1: You know how, I'm always saying that the problem with
Speaker 1: gun control is that you're trying to outlaw machine. And
Speaker 1: so they just changed the machine and it's a different machine.
Speaker 1: Imagine that with an algorithm. Yeah, no, kidding, this algorithm
Speaker 1: is outlawed. Zucker Berg would go faugh at that. I
Speaker 1: assume that's what he sounds like when he laughs a
Speaker 1: lot like that. We'll finish strong next.
Speaker 8: Naturally occurring toxins of the South American anthony dartfrog were
Speaker 8: used to murderous effect by Russian authorities to kill President
Speaker 8: Vadimir Putin's leading irritant opposition figure, Alexey Navawi. That's according
Speaker 8: to an investigation by the UK, Sweden, Germany, France and
Speaker 8: the Netherlands announced ahead of the second anniversary of Navalni's death.
Speaker 8: They said studies of samples from Navaleni's body left them
Speaker 8: quote confident the rare substance epibatidine killed Navalni, given by
Speaker 8: touch or injection and likely synthetic version lab made, said
Speaker 8: an expert.
Speaker 1: Oh lab made. Oh okay, because I was about to
Speaker 1: say it. I'm kind of surprised that they used some
Speaker 1: toxin from a dark frog to kill Navalny when he
Speaker 1: was in prison, because they could have killed him however
Speaker 1: they want.
Speaker 3: They could to hit him in the head with a brick.
Speaker 3: I mean, nobody was going to get any have much
Speaker 3: get much information out of that prison.
Speaker 1: Right indeed, and the frog squeezings are tough to come
Speaker 1: by there in Siberia, but now they can make it synthetically.
Speaker 1: I mean, what's AI going to do to that? Is
Speaker 1: every murderous you know soob in the world going to
Speaker 1: be Yeah, so.
Speaker 3: You opened the show with I believe noises of pessimism
Speaker 3: about the Russia Ukraine piece deal. Yeah, oh yeah, no, yeah,
Speaker 3: he gonna work it out.
Speaker 1: No, No, there's still unbridgable gaps between the two countries,
Speaker 1: plus putins of megalomaniac. I don't know if you've ever
Speaker 1: negotiated with a megalomaniac. It's it's tough.
Speaker 3: He has no interest in quitting, even though he's currently
Speaker 3: losing thirty five thousand.
Speaker 1: Men a month, which is non imaginable number. Right, that
Speaker 1: can't last forever, you wouldn't think, so, No, no mystery
Speaker 1: though how that one ends? Good lord, it's so grim.
Speaker 1: Hamas is refusing to disarm, and so we could see
Speaker 1: a return to action there in the pretty sandy alleys
Speaker 1: of Gaza before too terribly long I hope the college
Speaker 1: kids have got their Kafia's handy they didn't, you know,
Speaker 1: like give them the good will or something. They'll need
Speaker 1: to break those out again.
Speaker 3: Well, we've talked a lot over the last four hours.
Speaker 3: All the reporting is that it's quite likely we attack
Speaker 3: I Ran and it'll be a multi week's war, not
Speaker 3: just a quick hit and run. I wonder under the
Speaker 3: cover of that, if Netta Yahoo does whatever he's got
Speaker 3: to do to clean up Gaza, because they wouldn't get
Speaker 3: a heck of a lot of attention while we're at
Speaker 3: war with Iran, if he can avoid the appearance of
Speaker 3: like a major campaign and just surgical, quick and brutal. Ye, yeah,
Speaker 3: we're gonna according to the reports, it's like we're gonna
Speaker 3: bomb Iran. We've got assassins in there. There's all gonna
Speaker 3: be all kinds of strategic taking out their weapons systems.
Speaker 3: It's gonna be it's gonna be quite the story.
Speaker 1: And do we see the discombobulator used to discombobulator? Yeah,
Speaker 1: he got my Siti out. Get what they got? Sound
Speaker 1: for final thoughts thoughts. Here's your host final thoughts, Joe Getty.
Speaker 1: All right, let's get a final thought from everybody on
Speaker 1: the crew. To wrap things up to the day, Michael Angelore,
Speaker 1: technical director, will lead us off from the control room.
Speaker 1: Michael final thought.
Speaker 6: You know, I could see websites having some sort of
Speaker 6: time limit, So you're gonna be scrolling on these things
Speaker 6: and all of a sudden a scream will pop up
Speaker 6: and say, you've been on here for two hours?
Speaker 1: Don't you think you should stop? Yeah, yeah, I wonder
Speaker 1: I would like that. I think I can set my
Speaker 1: phone up for that.
Speaker 3: I should do that, though, I wouldn't mind having a
Speaker 3: little thing pop up, say it's been fifteen minutes. Dude,
Speaker 3: you said you're gonna look at it for like two.
Speaker 1: Minutes, right, Yeah, Katie green Are esteemed to us one
Speaker 1: as a final thought. Katie traveled over the weekend.
Speaker 3: The airport I was in had a pizza hut, long lines,
Speaker 3: no stray cats in the area though.
Speaker 1: Oh boy, Now so people were in line for pizza hut. Hmmm, yeah,
Speaker 1: it's funny, solid inexpensive za.
Speaker 3: Now, while we're on that topic, I told this story
Speaker 3: at the time and it's still true. I remember which
Speaker 3: I don't remember which major airport I was at, though,
Speaker 3: but they had like a Healthy Place, salads and stuff
Speaker 3: like that. Real airport was packed Ana McDonald's. Line at
Speaker 3: the McDonald's you had to wait for a long time.
Speaker 3: No line at the healthy Spot. What do you need
Speaker 3: to know about an obesity problem America? People would rather
Speaker 3: stand in line. I need a solid My final thought.
Speaker 1: Is it dwarfs every other challenge we have, including war
Speaker 1: with Iran, or the economy, even the national death, the
Speaker 1: indoctrination of our children in government schools. I think it's
Speaker 1: the worst thing happening in America. Well, we're gonna pay
Speaker 1: for the price for it.
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Speaker 1: to reject reality just because progressives tell you too. Will
Speaker 1: we be at war with Iran by the time we
Speaker 1: talk to you tomorrow. I don't know.
Speaker 3: See then, God bloss America.
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