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Speaker 1: Broadcasting live from the Abraham Lincoln Radio Studio, the George

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Speaker 1: Washington Broadcast Center, Jack Armstrong and Joe, Ketty arm Strong

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Speaker 1: and Jetty and Key Armstrong and Yeddy. This has never

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Speaker 1: happened before.

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Speaker 2: We have a prince, the son, favored son of Queen Elizabeth,

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Speaker 2: much loved Queen Elizabeth, now sitting in a.

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Speaker 2: With we're told, a bed and a toilet in the cell.

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Speaker 2: But no one in the royal family has ever been

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Speaker 2: in this position. So, whether you know the royals or

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Speaker 3: Katty k on MSNBC. First time a royal has been

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Speaker 3: arrested in four hundred years. Four years, so that take

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Speaker 3: it back to the time of shit since a royal

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Speaker 3: trying to turn his scepter into a shive, probably to

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Speaker 1: I assume he as a elfer soft for that sort

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Speaker 1: of thing. You think they carry it with them. I'll

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Speaker 1: tell you what you got arrested back in the day,

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Speaker 3: H Here's another interesting report from another bread We'll listen

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Speaker 3: to anybody with a British accent.

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Speaker 1: Listen.

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Speaker 4: Prince Andrew's arrest lands at the top of the British

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Speaker 4: state and to have a senior royal and custody on

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Speaker 4: suspicion of misconducting and public office really shatters that aura

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Speaker 4: of insulation around the monarchy. But I think that it

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Speaker 4: the moment, which is that of a country crumbling, a

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Speaker 4: country imploding. When you see this happening, even at the

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Speaker 4: symbolic top the royal family, it really does make you

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Speaker 4: think it feeds into that general mood of collapse, erosion,

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Speaker 1: I hadn't hadn't granted that myself, but yeah, they're Polity

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Speaker 1: are just diseased and the national spirit is terrible right now.

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Speaker 3: Well in their economy. So I've listened to a couple

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Speaker 3: of podcasts that I've mentioned in the last six months

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Speaker 3: from British reporters talking about, Hey, America, where where you're

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Speaker 3: going to be in five, ten, fifteen years, whatever the

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Speaker 3: number is. We're already there. We have overspent and time

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Speaker 3: for them had to do with their whole ridiculous net

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Speaker 3: zero caring about climate change thing. You couldn't do anything

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Speaker 3: the climate, which just crushed their economy and their GDP.

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Speaker 1: Crushed innovation entrepreneurial spirit. Yeah, just terrible.

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Speaker 3: And you got Prince Andrew running around giving away state

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Speaker 3: secrets to h pervos touching underage girls.

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Speaker 1: That doesn't help anything in return for access to yeah,

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Speaker 1: Romanian women of loose morals. Yeah, that's quite a story.

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Speaker 1: I don't know if it's do you know what?

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Speaker 3: So it's a small segment of society in England that

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Speaker 1: You know what.

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Speaker 3: They call them Republicans. That's what they call that crowd

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Speaker 3: power they have. It's a constitutional monarchy, but I don't

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Speaker 3: know how much. Not really any I don't Yeah, I

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Speaker 3: really any power either? I mean the Prime minister. When

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Speaker 1: But if they said go f yourself, I'm not sure

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Speaker 1: it makes any difference. It's just an effort to tie

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Speaker 1: Or yeah, yeah, that's true too. It's just a feeling

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Speaker 1: the monarchies are stupid wherever they exist, even though I

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Speaker 1: call for them about once a month. Tough for Americans

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Speaker 3: I wonder if we will have to understand it at

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Speaker 3: some point, what it's like to go from being the

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Speaker 1: Well, now it's time for my trademark, Michael, you remember

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Speaker 1: what my trademark is, of course, right, yell and at

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Speaker 1: the staff. No, No, that's not it, idiot, No, My

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Speaker 1: trademark is to be interesting, then depressing. If you could

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Speaker 1: you'd pretty much have the difference between the US and Britain.

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Speaker 1: But even if you identified those things. Nobody would care.

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Speaker 1: They would just vote for more money out of the

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Speaker 1: treasury for themselves. And in a related story, why the

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Speaker 1: federal defat it has projected a surge in five charts.

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Speaker 1: This from the Wall Street Journal. US debt will be

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Speaker 1: more than one hundred percent of our US gross domestic

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Speaker 3: Imagine if your credit card debt was more than you

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Speaker 3: make a year. Yeah, you would feel like you're in

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Speaker 3: a pretty bad spot, wouldn't you.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and interest rates are rising anyway, If that doesn't

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Speaker 1: depress you nothing, well, so perhaps we can move on.

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Speaker 3: Michael Joe brought us the story about Reese's monkeys last hour.

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Speaker 3: How about this hour we get to Reese's peanut butter cups.

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Speaker 1: Can we hear that? And I've got the background information

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Speaker 1: on it. You're clips six peanut butter on my chocolate. Well,

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Speaker 1: you got chocolate in my pant butter two great taste,

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Speaker 1: the taste great together. Reese's peanut butter cup, real milk chocolate,

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Speaker 5: U's peanut butter cup.

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Speaker 3: So why is peanut butter cup in the news today?

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Speaker 3: I love or loved a peanut butter cup in my life.

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Speaker 3: I've always found them delicious. But the grandson of the

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Speaker 3: inventor has lashed out at the Hershey Company, accusing the

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Speaker 3: company of hurting the Riese's brand by shifting shifting the

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Speaker 3: cheaper ingredients in many of its products.

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Speaker 1: Oh like not the prime cuts. A monkey in the

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Speaker 3: Hershey acknowledges recipe changes, but said Wednesday there was trying

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Speaker 3: to be custard. Demand for innovation. High cocoa prices has

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Speaker 3: led Hershey, you know, their manufacturers to experiment. We're eating

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Speaker 3: less chocolate in recent years and a different kind of

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Speaker 1: When did this happen? Has this already happened?

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Speaker 3: Because I feel like I had a peanut butter cup

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Speaker 3: fairly recently and I didn't think it was very good,

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Speaker 3: and I've always loved them, Do you know, Michael, has

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Speaker 3: that already occurred?

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Speaker 1: The cheapening of peanut butrix.

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Speaker 6: So because I'm with you, Jack, I'm eating them, and yeah,

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Speaker 6: they're not as good.

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Speaker 3: Like noticeably crappier by quite a bit in my experience.

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Speaker 1: Wow, I don't eat candy because I'm not a child.

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Speaker 1: But it's kind of like, it's kind of like we

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Speaker 1: I feel like I feel like the ingredients changed. Yes,

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Speaker 1: over the years, Yes, and just aren't the same thing anymore. Honey,

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Speaker 1: why is cheese spelled with a Z in their ingredients? Well,

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Speaker 1: they asked themselves a question many companies do. Is this

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Speaker 1: on quality? I just bit into a cat toy? Why

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Speaker 1: is that? That's weird? This sausage pizza tastes hard to

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Speaker 1: describe feline. Yes, no, we have no reason to believe

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Speaker 1: that that is certainly not no parody or satire or

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Speaker 1: some lack of stray dogs running around taco bells is

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Speaker 1: just coincidence, better better, better efforts to animal control. All

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Speaker 1: of this is parody and satire or whatever word you

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Speaker 1: Clearly clearly intended to be ridiculous.

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Speaker 3: Yes, so ridiculous, so far from the truth. Your honor

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Speaker 3: that no normal person could believe it was meant to

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Speaker 1: Right, I would ingest a pizza Hut pizza right now, happily,

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Speaker 1: including the cat sausage. I mean the sausage. Oh no,

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Speaker 1: you took it a step too far. Joe Getty took

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Speaker 1: it a step too far. They make fine pizzas that

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Speaker 1: I would eat zero cat. I'm reasonably certain negligible amounts

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Speaker 1: back and talk to our lawyers during the taking and

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Speaker 1: the wedding. We'll be right back.

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Speaker 5: A new study into our food habits found that forty

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Speaker 5: trips to fast casual restaurants begin with simple fatigue.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, we know.

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Speaker 5: There's a reason Olive Garden slogan is when you're here,

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Speaker 1: Just can't today. Yeah, that's funny, I just can't today. Wow,

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Speaker 1: there's a lot of truth there. It is. That could

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Speaker 1: be like the entire frozen pizza industry. I'm not cooking.

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Speaker 1: I just can't today. So a couple of brief things

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Speaker 1: So a couple of things. Number one, this is a

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Speaker 1: great point from Nelly Bowls in the Free Press. She says,

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Speaker 1: Ay I remember hearing that story. Oh, video is crazy.

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Speaker 3: and they're always into safety. Waimos are safer than people driving.

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Speaker 3: Not safe enough yet when they're already safer than although

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Speaker 3: I am confused about that statistic.

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Speaker 1: As I've said before, if.

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Speaker 3: You eliminated like the bottom fifteen percent of drivers, are

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Speaker 1: I don't know if that's true or not. Great question, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: don't know. Then we got this from the fabulous Matt

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Speaker 1: from Fremont, the anti Eileen Gou, the googan if you

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Speaker 1: will of figure skating, O, Katie, that was smooth, very good.

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Speaker 1: Thank you. Yeah, ran across this, Matt writes while reading

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Speaker 1: about Alyssa lu the only American with shot at meddling

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Speaker 1: in the women's figure skating blah blah. Her father fled

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Speaker 1: from China after the Chian Men's Square massacre. Wow. Lou,

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Speaker 1: who grew up in Oakland, was targeted by China as

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Speaker 1: part of the same project that brought Eileen Gou into

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Speaker 1: the Communist fold for the twenty twenty two Beijing Winter Olympics. Ah,

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Speaker 1: that's interesting, but her dad told the CCP to f

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Speaker 7: They take a vulnerable child, while all kids are vulnerable

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Speaker 5: If they take responsibility, then they're going to have to

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Speaker 1: It's addicting kids? Well? No, I think what's that precedent

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Speaker 3: Who was it laced potato chips who had slogan, but

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Speaker 1: watching Jerry Effing Springer every single day. People will start

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Speaker 1: to make those decisions.

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Speaker 3: I hope you're more optimistic about that than I am.

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Speaker 3: I hope you're right. I love that. I would love

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Speaker 3: it if it happened the way it happened with tobacco,

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Speaker 3: once everybody found out, oh, this is poison and it's

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Speaker 3: addictive on purpose and there's nothing good for you. You know,

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Speaker 3: there's there's a fair amount of social stigma around smoking,

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Speaker 3: and the percentage of people smoke is a lot less

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Speaker 3: than it used to be, and it's frowned upon by

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Speaker 3: a lot of people. Can that happen for staring at

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Speaker 3: your phone and everything?

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Speaker 1: I don't know. I'm actually not that optimistic about society

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Speaker 1: quote unquote, I think society you screwed. I just think

449
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Speaker 1: individuals will start to get smarter. More and more individuals

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Speaker 1: will get smarter and smarter about it, everyone, including the kids.

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Speaker 1: Everyone was when I'm struck anew.

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Speaker 3: I live in a college town, and I was just

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Speaker 3: sitting at the stoplight, and here are two guys with backpacks,

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Speaker 3: obviously walking from classes back to their dorms or whatever

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Speaker 3: they're doing. And they're walking along the bike path, and

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Speaker 3: they're both staring at their phone as they walked, and just.

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Speaker 1: The idea that.

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Speaker 3: Not that many years ago that didn't exist at all,

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Speaker 3: they would have been looking around. There's a big difference

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Speaker 3: between looking around with your own thoughts then staring at

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Speaker 3: that phone almost certainly taking in useless information. It's not

462
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Speaker 3: like they're probably reading Shakespeare or whatever, and they.

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Speaker 1: Would have been killalking to each other. We used to

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Speaker 1: go the fraternity where I lived for a chunk of

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Speaker 1: my college years, was two longish blocks away from the

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Speaker 1: seven to eleven and twelve months a year. We would

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Speaker 1: go gulp. We would get a big gulp because that

468
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Speaker 1: was our caffeine of choice back in the day, and

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Speaker 1: you'd always yell, hey, gulpin who wants to go. You'd

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Speaker 1: end up with three four ten guys going to get gulps.

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Speaker 1: You had to have your gulping glove. In the winter time,

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Speaker 1: you had to have at least one glove because you

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Speaker 1: couldn't hold that thing all the way home in the

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Speaker 1: winter in Champagne or Van Illinois. That's funny, but it was.

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Speaker 1: It was a hoot. Yeah, it was always a hoot. Yeah. God,

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Speaker 1: I long for those days. I can't imagine we all

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Speaker 1: would have trek down their eyes on our phones, not

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Speaker 1: exchanging a word. It hurts my heart to even think

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Speaker 1: that we had the same thing.

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Speaker 3: I lived in a duplex and we were a couple

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Speaker 3: of blocks from the Stop two shop which had twenty

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Speaker 3: five cent hot dogs, and me and a couple other

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Speaker 3: guys would walk over there. But yeah, and talking the

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Speaker 3: whole way and laughing and having fun. And I know,

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Speaker 3: because I live in a college town that now you

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Speaker 3: would be all three of you.

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Speaker 1: Staring at your phone, not talking to each other. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: which is weird, and but but but I just I

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Speaker 1: don't know if it's going away. And uh, hey, by

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Speaker 1: the way, just in case you're wondering, gladys is on

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Speaker 1: her break. She joined the a f l c Io

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Speaker 1: last week. She's union now and we just gets took

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Speaker 1: an hour break every two hours. We just two through two,

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Speaker 1: really reminiscing stories on there. Noel Harck stuffed out her

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Speaker 1: cigarette and now she's back. I'll play the harp when

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Speaker 1: the union says I have to not until glad Us

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Speaker 1: clicks her cigarette on the ground and then stomps it

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Speaker 1: out with her sensible shoe, sits down and plays her

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Speaker 1: damn heart because we were reminiscing.

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Speaker 3: That's gotta be among I was thinking sitting there at

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Speaker 3: the stoplight, watching these two people walk among the biggest

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Speaker 3: I said to my son, this has got to be

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Speaker 3: among the biggest changes of human beings ever in evolution history.

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Speaker 3: Hasn't that an amount of a short amount of time.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and in a kind of bigger scale I'm always

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Speaker 1: talking about are our perception of everything used to be personal,

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Speaker 1: immediate and physical. It was what we heard ourselves, what

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Speaker 1: we saw ourselves, what we do, the ideas we exchanged,

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Speaker 1: the people we knew. It was one hundred percent personal

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Speaker 1: until a blink of an eye ago, evolutionarily speaking, when

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Speaker 1: the written words started to get passed around and then

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Speaker 1: broadcast media and all but the internet, you know, the

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Speaker 1: entire world all the time. The worst people in the

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Speaker 1: world can jump out of my phone and try to

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Speaker 1: persuade me as something that's like a tenth of a

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Speaker 1: tenth of a tenth of a blink of an eye,

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Speaker 1: and we have no idea how to handle it.

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Speaker 3: So the tobacco companies got hit with I should look

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Speaker 3: it up. Read amazingly large judgments h many, many, many

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Speaker 3: billions of dollars. So if that happened to Facebook and

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Speaker 3: Google and then you got these other close to two

522
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Speaker 3: thousand lawsuits going forward based on how this one turns out,

523
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Speaker 3: will all these companies have to be so damn careful

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Speaker 3: about their addictive qualities.

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Speaker 1: I just don't know if we would make a dent.

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Speaker 1: I don't know. I think they're some of them are

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Speaker 1: the greatest minds of our generation, and they will find

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Speaker 1: ways to keep it going right and get around the laws.

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Speaker 3: Do you have any thoughts on that? Our text line

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Speaker 3: is four one five two nine five KFTC. Zuckerberg's back

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Speaker 3: on the stand today.

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Speaker 1: You know how, I'm always saying that the problem with

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Speaker 1: gun control is that you're trying to outlaw machine. And

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Speaker 1: so they just changed the machine and it's a different machine.

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Speaker 1: Imagine that with an algorithm. Yeah, no, kidding, this algorithm

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Speaker 1: is outlawed. Zucker Berg would go faugh at that. I

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Speaker 1: assume that's what he sounds like when he laughs a

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Speaker 1: lot like that. We'll finish strong next.

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Speaker 8: Naturally occurring toxins of the South American anthony dartfrog were

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Speaker 8: used to murderous effect by Russian authorities to kill President

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Speaker 8: Vadimir Putin's leading irritant opposition figure, Alexey Navawi. That's according

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Speaker 8: to an investigation by the UK, Sweden, Germany, France and

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Speaker 8: the Netherlands announced ahead of the second anniversary of Navalni's death.

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Speaker 8: They said studies of samples from Navaleni's body left them

545
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Speaker 8: quote confident the rare substance epibatidine killed Navalni, given by

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Speaker 8: touch or injection and likely synthetic version lab made, said

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Speaker 8: an expert.

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Speaker 1: Oh lab made. Oh okay, because I was about to

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Speaker 1: say it. I'm kind of surprised that they used some

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Speaker 1: toxin from a dark frog to kill Navalny when he

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Speaker 1: was in prison, because they could have killed him however

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Speaker 1: they want.

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Speaker 3: They could to hit him in the head with a brick.

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Speaker 3: I mean, nobody was going to get any have much

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Speaker 3: get much information out of that prison.

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Speaker 1: Right indeed, and the frog squeezings are tough to come

557
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Speaker 1: by there in Siberia, but now they can make it synthetically.

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Speaker 1: I mean, what's AI going to do to that? Is

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Speaker 1: every murderous you know soob in the world going to

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Speaker 1: be Yeah, so.

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Speaker 3: You opened the show with I believe noises of pessimism

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Speaker 3: about the Russia Ukraine piece deal. Yeah, oh yeah, no, yeah,

563
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Speaker 3: he gonna work it out.

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Speaker 1: No, No, there's still unbridgable gaps between the two countries,

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Speaker 1: plus putins of megalomaniac. I don't know if you've ever

566
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Speaker 1: negotiated with a megalomaniac. It's it's tough.

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Speaker 3: He has no interest in quitting, even though he's currently

568
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Speaker 3: losing thirty five thousand.

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Speaker 1: Men a month, which is non imaginable number. Right, that

570
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Speaker 1: can't last forever, you wouldn't think, so, No, no mystery

571
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Speaker 1: though how that one ends? Good lord, it's so grim.

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Speaker 1: Hamas is refusing to disarm, and so we could see

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Speaker 1: a return to action there in the pretty sandy alleys

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Speaker 1: of Gaza before too terribly long I hope the college

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Speaker 1: kids have got their Kafia's handy they didn't, you know,

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Speaker 1: like give them the good will or something. They'll need

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Speaker 1: to break those out again.

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Speaker 3: Well, we've talked a lot over the last four hours.

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Speaker 3: All the reporting is that it's quite likely we attack

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Speaker 3: I Ran and it'll be a multi week's war, not

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Speaker 3: just a quick hit and run. I wonder under the

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Speaker 3: cover of that, if Netta Yahoo does whatever he's got

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Speaker 3: to do to clean up Gaza, because they wouldn't get

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Speaker 3: a heck of a lot of attention while we're at

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Speaker 3: war with Iran, if he can avoid the appearance of

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Speaker 3: like a major campaign and just surgical, quick and brutal. Ye, yeah,

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Speaker 3: we're gonna according to the reports, it's like we're gonna

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Speaker 3: bomb Iran. We've got assassins in there. There's all gonna

589
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Speaker 3: be all kinds of strategic taking out their weapons systems.

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Speaker 3: It's gonna be it's gonna be quite the story.

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Speaker 1: And do we see the discombobulator used to discombobulator? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: he got my Siti out. Get what they got? Sound

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Speaker 1: for final thoughts thoughts. Here's your host final thoughts, Joe Getty.

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Speaker 1: All right, let's get a final thought from everybody on

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Speaker 1: the crew. To wrap things up to the day, Michael Angelore,

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Speaker 1: technical director, will lead us off from the control room.

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Speaker 1: Michael final thought.

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Speaker 6: You know, I could see websites having some sort of

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Speaker 6: time limit, So you're gonna be scrolling on these things

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Speaker 6: and all of a sudden a scream will pop up

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Speaker 6: and say, you've been on here for two hours?

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Speaker 1: Don't you think you should stop? Yeah, yeah, I wonder

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Speaker 1: I would like that. I think I can set my

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Speaker 1: phone up for that.

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Speaker 3: I should do that, though, I wouldn't mind having a

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Speaker 3: little thing pop up, say it's been fifteen minutes. Dude,

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Speaker 3: you said you're gonna look at it for like two.

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Speaker 1: Minutes, right, Yeah, Katie green Are esteemed to us one

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Speaker 1: as a final thought. Katie traveled over the weekend.

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Speaker 3: The airport I was in had a pizza hut, long lines,

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Speaker 3: no stray cats in the area though.

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Speaker 1: Oh boy, Now so people were in line for pizza hut. Hmmm, yeah,

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Speaker 1: it's funny, solid inexpensive za.

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Speaker 3: Now, while we're on that topic, I told this story

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Speaker 3: at the time and it's still true. I remember which

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Speaker 3: I don't remember which major airport I was at, though,

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Speaker 3: but they had like a Healthy Place, salads and stuff

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Speaker 3: No line at the healthy Spot. What do you need

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Speaker 3: to know about an obesity problem America? People would rather

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Speaker 3: stand in line. I need a solid My final thought.

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Speaker 1: Is it dwarfs every other challenge we have, including war

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Speaker 1: with Iran, or the economy, even the national death, the

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