1 00:00:00,440 --> 00:00:02,400 Speaker 1: You have to what's the worst case. What's the worst 2 00:00:02,400 --> 00:00:03,760 Speaker 1: that happened. If he doesn't get. 3 00:00:03,640 --> 00:00:06,240 Speaker 2: Traded, they put him on the aisle and he doesn't pitch. 4 00:00:06,400 --> 00:00:08,720 Speaker 3: They're not gonna avoid this contract. They're not gonna nothing's 5 00:00:08,760 --> 00:00:09,280 Speaker 3: gonna happen. 6 00:00:13,680 --> 00:00:18,200 Speaker 1: Vegas, Baby, Welcome everyone. It is Ft from Vegas. We're 7 00:00:18,200 --> 00:00:19,480 Speaker 1: playing a little poker tournament. 8 00:00:19,560 --> 00:00:19,720 Speaker 3: Later. 9 00:00:19,760 --> 00:00:21,720 Speaker 1: I'm actually broadcasting it. We'll have a live stream. 10 00:00:21,800 --> 00:00:23,720 Speaker 2: You must really suck it. 11 00:00:24,360 --> 00:00:26,880 Speaker 1: No, I didn't play major league baseball. I don't know 12 00:00:26,920 --> 00:00:27,960 Speaker 1: if you, so. 13 00:00:28,000 --> 00:00:29,400 Speaker 2: I figured you would figure out a way to get 14 00:00:29,400 --> 00:00:30,120 Speaker 2: into the I. 15 00:00:30,120 --> 00:00:32,320 Speaker 1: Ever acted like I played major league baseball. 16 00:00:33,520 --> 00:00:37,960 Speaker 2: I actually feel like you nicknamed yourself the other day, Braun. 17 00:00:37,600 --> 00:00:43,440 Speaker 1: I don't even remember that anyway, real poker player down there, 18 00:00:43,880 --> 00:00:50,760 Speaker 1: how you feeling? Yeah, he does. I don't doubt this 19 00:00:50,800 --> 00:00:51,960 Speaker 1: is part of his gimmick. 20 00:00:52,000 --> 00:00:54,440 Speaker 2: Though. My gimmick is. 21 00:00:56,200 --> 00:01:00,319 Speaker 4: Flying to Vegas and we have a two thirty three 22 00:01:00,320 --> 00:01:04,280 Speaker 4: o'clock live here, three hours sleep in between three drinks. 23 00:01:04,280 --> 00:01:08,000 Speaker 4: I has gotten to dinner, lunch, dinner after the show, 24 00:01:08,040 --> 00:01:10,560 Speaker 4: so I'm kind of angry. I'm kind of tired, and 25 00:01:10,600 --> 00:01:12,240 Speaker 4: I'm kind of gonna kick everyone's. 26 00:01:14,440 --> 00:01:17,560 Speaker 3: Three hours of sleep is a Tuesday for Scott three hours. 27 00:01:17,600 --> 00:01:19,000 Speaker 3: I wish I would have got three hours of sleep. 28 00:01:19,560 --> 00:01:22,720 Speaker 1: I woke up at five am actually, which is really 29 00:01:22,800 --> 00:01:23,240 Speaker 1: eight am. 30 00:01:23,319 --> 00:01:25,600 Speaker 3: That's nice. Don't do that. Don't do that, you can't 31 00:01:25,640 --> 00:01:27,840 Speaker 3: go true. I was up at three hours. I can't 32 00:01:27,880 --> 00:01:28,840 Speaker 3: stand when people do that. 33 00:01:29,200 --> 00:01:29,720 Speaker 2: Boat ci. 34 00:01:29,920 --> 00:01:33,120 Speaker 3: Oh, it's a different it's actually eight o'clock. It really no, 35 00:01:33,200 --> 00:01:35,440 Speaker 3: it's actually five. Yeah, it's five. It's actually five, and 36 00:01:35,920 --> 00:01:37,080 Speaker 3: you don't get jet leg the. 37 00:01:37,080 --> 00:01:39,800 Speaker 1: First time I've woken up at five in a while. Anyway. 38 00:01:40,840 --> 00:01:42,400 Speaker 1: The one thing I would do want to tell everyone 39 00:01:42,480 --> 00:01:44,760 Speaker 1: is we will have a lot more bonus content for 40 00:01:44,800 --> 00:01:47,760 Speaker 1: you to watch later on the FT YouTube channel. I'll 41 00:01:47,760 --> 00:01:49,640 Speaker 1: give you more information coming up in just a bit, 42 00:01:49,720 --> 00:01:52,920 Speaker 1: but we'll have a ton of former players joining us 43 00:01:52,920 --> 00:01:54,840 Speaker 1: over the next couple of days on this show and 44 00:01:54,880 --> 00:01:56,560 Speaker 1: then also on this live stream. It's kind of like 45 00:01:56,600 --> 00:02:00,760 Speaker 1: watching World Series of Poker and you get to know 46 00:02:00,880 --> 00:02:04,480 Speaker 1: the cards on the screen and the guy's all playing. 47 00:02:04,520 --> 00:02:06,080 Speaker 1: We did this a few months ago, but we'll have 48 00:02:06,160 --> 00:02:09,120 Speaker 1: it on the FT YouTube channel, So more info coming 49 00:02:09,160 --> 00:02:12,480 Speaker 1: soon on that. While Aj is angry, I have the 50 00:02:12,919 --> 00:02:16,120 Speaker 1: perfect article that just came out for him. Let's charge 51 00:02:17,880 --> 00:02:24,920 Speaker 1: talk about the war is on between Commissioner Rob Manfred 52 00:02:25,080 --> 00:02:28,720 Speaker 1: and the players. The war is officially on. It had 53 00:02:28,720 --> 00:02:31,400 Speaker 1: been brewing for a while. An article came out this 54 00:02:31,520 --> 00:02:36,919 Speaker 1: morning from Evandrelik in The Athletic documenting what Manfred told 55 00:02:36,960 --> 00:02:39,480 Speaker 1: some investors. I think for a Braves call, that part 56 00:02:39,520 --> 00:02:42,320 Speaker 1: doesn't matter. It's public info since he spoke to people 57 00:02:42,360 --> 00:02:44,880 Speaker 1: about it and it's not off the record. He just 58 00:02:44,919 --> 00:02:47,720 Speaker 1: basically laid out he knew anyone could watch right right, 59 00:02:48,040 --> 00:02:50,040 Speaker 1: I'm saying, so it's public records. I'm saying it was 60 00:02:50,240 --> 00:02:53,680 Speaker 1: in an investor call, but it's public. He basically laid 61 00:02:53,720 --> 00:02:57,960 Speaker 1: out his plan for how he's trying to take players down. Period. 62 00:02:58,520 --> 00:03:00,480 Speaker 1: He laid out his plan for everyone that he had 63 00:03:00,520 --> 00:03:02,920 Speaker 1: been talking to players over a three year span, and 64 00:03:03,000 --> 00:03:04,840 Speaker 1: each year he gets a little bit more aggressive and 65 00:03:04,840 --> 00:03:07,720 Speaker 1: tries to tell them how they have significantly lowered the 66 00:03:07,720 --> 00:03:09,919 Speaker 1: percentage of how much money they make, how much they 67 00:03:09,960 --> 00:03:13,520 Speaker 1: share in profit right with Major League Baseball or revenue 68 00:03:13,600 --> 00:03:18,440 Speaker 1: forty seven percent on players. It used to be sixty 69 00:03:18,440 --> 00:03:23,040 Speaker 1: three percent the first deal when Manford was chief negotiator 70 00:03:23,040 --> 00:03:25,960 Speaker 1: in two thousand and two. So after punching them all 71 00:03:26,000 --> 00:03:29,880 Speaker 1: the way down to forty seven percent. His hey, let's 72 00:03:29,919 --> 00:03:33,120 Speaker 1: be friends tour is listen to me on everything, and 73 00:03:33,160 --> 00:03:36,080 Speaker 1: I will lead you to more money. How did I paraphrase? 74 00:03:37,360 --> 00:03:38,040 Speaker 2: Pretty close? 75 00:03:38,320 --> 00:03:38,800 Speaker 3: Spot on? 76 00:03:39,160 --> 00:03:42,600 Speaker 2: Why isn't his job to get more money for the owners? 77 00:03:42,600 --> 00:03:43,520 Speaker 2: He works for the owners? 78 00:03:43,800 --> 00:03:48,200 Speaker 1: Correct, But he's telling players, let me help, help me help. 79 00:03:48,320 --> 00:03:50,920 Speaker 4: Numbers can't be right, then, that's what Tony Clark responded 80 00:03:50,920 --> 00:03:53,600 Speaker 4: with them, the numbers are not right, because why would 81 00:03:53,600 --> 00:03:56,760 Speaker 4: he tell everybody publicly? This is also why he has 82 00:03:56,760 --> 00:03:59,839 Speaker 4: certain ex players on his staff now to be able 83 00:03:59,840 --> 00:04:01,800 Speaker 4: to talk directly to players and get them to come 84 00:04:01,800 --> 00:04:02,840 Speaker 4: over to his side. 85 00:04:03,200 --> 00:04:04,800 Speaker 2: So, I don't know, this is going to be bad. 86 00:04:05,120 --> 00:04:07,120 Speaker 2: This is not a good way to start negotiations when 87 00:04:07,120 --> 00:04:10,120 Speaker 2: everyone already is expecting a lockout or a strike or something. 88 00:04:10,200 --> 00:04:14,840 Speaker 1: Company And how do most players perceive him. 89 00:04:13,960 --> 00:04:16,840 Speaker 3: Like the enemy, like somebody that's not to be trusted. 90 00:04:16,880 --> 00:04:20,360 Speaker 3: I mean he said tells players they've lost billions. He 91 00:04:20,440 --> 00:04:23,880 Speaker 3: should have said they've stolen billions from him, well from 92 00:04:23,920 --> 00:04:24,360 Speaker 3: the players. 93 00:04:24,400 --> 00:04:26,440 Speaker 1: If they lost billions, how did that happen? 94 00:04:26,520 --> 00:04:26,640 Speaker 5: Right? 95 00:04:26,640 --> 00:04:28,440 Speaker 1: He didn't say, oh, like we've lost that money as 96 00:04:28,440 --> 00:04:31,599 Speaker 1: a sport. He's saying we've captured more of that as 97 00:04:31,800 --> 00:04:34,000 Speaker 1: an ownership group and as a league. So if he's 98 00:04:34,040 --> 00:04:36,520 Speaker 1: saying that, whose job is to do that? 99 00:04:38,880 --> 00:04:41,400 Speaker 4: But what he's saying is is the owners are being 100 00:04:41,480 --> 00:04:43,440 Speaker 4: cheap and they're not spending what they're supposed to spend. 101 00:04:43,480 --> 00:04:46,039 Speaker 4: That's what the players argument is going to be, like, 102 00:04:46,040 --> 00:04:47,640 Speaker 4: we'll tell your owners to spend more. We don't need 103 00:04:47,640 --> 00:04:49,440 Speaker 4: a salary cap to tell your owners to spend more. 104 00:04:49,720 --> 00:04:51,160 Speaker 4: Then he's going to go back and say, we'll give 105 00:04:51,160 --> 00:04:52,520 Speaker 4: you if you give us a cap, we'll give you 106 00:04:52,520 --> 00:04:55,440 Speaker 4: a floor to make it like other sports, the NFL, NBA, 107 00:04:55,480 --> 00:04:57,200 Speaker 4: they all have a cap, but they also have a floor. 108 00:04:57,240 --> 00:04:58,880 Speaker 4: And then player associations would say, why don't we just 109 00:04:58,880 --> 00:05:01,200 Speaker 4: spend more? And then and if I'm Tony Clerk, I'm 110 00:05:01,240 --> 00:05:04,480 Speaker 4: going with the teams to spend get the big attendances 111 00:05:04,520 --> 00:05:06,440 Speaker 4: and they win usually, So if you would tell the 112 00:05:06,520 --> 00:05:08,600 Speaker 4: guys that don't spend. 113 00:05:09,040 --> 00:05:10,720 Speaker 2: Also, if you want to make more. 114 00:05:10,600 --> 00:05:14,160 Speaker 1: Also, the owners can share money however not however they want. 115 00:05:14,200 --> 00:05:16,359 Speaker 1: It gets bargained. But if they feel like there's a 116 00:05:16,400 --> 00:05:20,960 Speaker 1: disparity and team bottom feeder needs more money, that gets 117 00:05:20,960 --> 00:05:22,479 Speaker 1: negotiated with revenue sharing. 118 00:05:22,760 --> 00:05:22,920 Speaker 3: YEP. 119 00:05:23,800 --> 00:05:26,120 Speaker 1: So that's their choice. They can present that to the 120 00:05:26,200 --> 00:05:28,719 Speaker 1: union and say, hey, we would like to give the 121 00:05:28,760 --> 00:05:31,240 Speaker 1: Guardians an extra thirty million bucks a year from the 122 00:05:31,279 --> 00:05:35,000 Speaker 1: top three teams whatever. Right, I'm paraphrasing here on a 123 00:05:35,120 --> 00:05:39,599 Speaker 1: much more complex issue, and they would say, great, you're 124 00:05:39,600 --> 00:05:41,719 Speaker 1: giving them more money. Cool? 125 00:05:42,040 --> 00:05:45,279 Speaker 3: Right, Yeah, Okay, they can totally do that. But he's 126 00:05:45,320 --> 00:05:50,120 Speaker 3: talking about the money that is split between players and 127 00:05:50,200 --> 00:05:56,560 Speaker 3: owners has gone down. It's directly from him. Correct, He's 128 00:05:56,600 --> 00:05:59,560 Speaker 3: the one that's doing this. And you're talking about like 129 00:05:59,600 --> 00:06:04,120 Speaker 3: a guy. You're talking about like money that if you're 130 00:06:04,240 --> 00:06:08,080 Speaker 3: truly trying to create a relationship. That is what he says, Hey, 131 00:06:08,160 --> 00:06:12,719 Speaker 3: trust me. You can't start off of trust a relationship 132 00:06:12,760 --> 00:06:15,480 Speaker 3: build on trust with a dude that's like, actually, I've 133 00:06:15,520 --> 00:06:17,719 Speaker 3: been swindling you since what did he say, two thousand 134 00:06:17,760 --> 00:06:20,400 Speaker 3: and two the first time he was part of a negotiation. 135 00:06:21,279 --> 00:06:23,760 Speaker 3: That's who you want to trust start a relationship off 136 00:06:23,839 --> 00:06:26,440 Speaker 3: on like I know, I haven't really trusted this guy 137 00:06:26,520 --> 00:06:28,719 Speaker 3: because of the things he's done to us with our money, 138 00:06:28,720 --> 00:06:30,679 Speaker 3: but I think now would be the time. 139 00:06:33,920 --> 00:06:35,880 Speaker 1: All Right, Harry's is going to get an award here 140 00:06:36,160 --> 00:06:38,960 Speaker 1: MVP in the shaving world and aj if you want 141 00:06:39,000 --> 00:06:42,600 Speaker 1: to equate it to things that we talk about. It's 142 00:06:42,680 --> 00:06:48,239 Speaker 1: not expensive and it's super versatile right the company itself, 143 00:06:48,279 --> 00:06:50,200 Speaker 1: because there's other products that you can get on the 144 00:06:50,240 --> 00:06:54,080 Speaker 1: site doodorate, body wash, et cetera. But for your everyday 145 00:06:54,160 --> 00:06:56,760 Speaker 1: shaving needs, Harry's has you covered. And you look at 146 00:06:56,760 --> 00:06:59,360 Speaker 1: the pricing, you look at the quality, and you're like, wait, 147 00:06:59,440 --> 00:07:02,320 Speaker 1: why was that using the old classic brand for a 148 00:07:02,320 --> 00:07:02,840 Speaker 1: long time. 149 00:07:02,920 --> 00:07:06,360 Speaker 4: Listen as somebody right now that needs a Harry's. I've 150 00:07:06,480 --> 00:07:08,840 Speaker 4: just been lazy. Harry's. I have plenty of them lined 151 00:07:08,880 --> 00:07:10,160 Speaker 4: up or need to use. You can use them for 152 00:07:10,200 --> 00:07:12,400 Speaker 4: more than one shave, which is huge for me, and 153 00:07:12,440 --> 00:07:15,000 Speaker 4: the pricing is right. I gotta go get my Harries 154 00:07:15,040 --> 00:07:17,520 Speaker 4: because my neck beard is sick. But Harry's will fix that. 155 00:07:17,880 --> 00:07:20,360 Speaker 4: It'll line me up straight in no bumps, no cuts. 156 00:07:20,680 --> 00:07:22,720 Speaker 4: It's exactly what I need for a great price. 157 00:07:22,880 --> 00:07:23,240 Speaker 3: That's right. 158 00:07:23,280 --> 00:07:25,600 Speaker 1: Get the edge on your shave with Harry's. Normally their 159 00:07:25,600 --> 00:07:27,720 Speaker 1: trial set is ten dollars, but right now you can 160 00:07:27,760 --> 00:07:30,080 Speaker 1: get it for just six dollars at Harry's dot com 161 00:07:30,080 --> 00:07:32,800 Speaker 1: slash fowl. That's our exclusive link Harry's dot com slash 162 00:07:32,840 --> 00:07:34,840 Speaker 1: fowl for a six dollars trial set. 163 00:07:35,920 --> 00:07:38,160 Speaker 2: Well, here's the thing. You use the Guardians as an example. 164 00:07:38,240 --> 00:07:40,440 Speaker 4: Right, just because they give the Guardians thirty million, doesn't 165 00:07:40,480 --> 00:07:42,240 Speaker 4: mean they have to spend it on anything other than 166 00:07:42,280 --> 00:07:44,480 Speaker 4: going to the owner's pocket. That's that was the big 167 00:07:44,520 --> 00:07:50,040 Speaker 4: great with Oakland for years and other teams Miami Islands, yep. 168 00:07:50,120 --> 00:07:52,840 Speaker 4: Where they say, oh, Pittsburgh, Oh they're getting forty to 169 00:07:52,880 --> 00:07:54,760 Speaker 4: fifty million a year and that's just going in the 170 00:07:54,760 --> 00:07:57,440 Speaker 4: owner's pocket because they're not respending it back into team. 171 00:07:57,520 --> 00:08:00,320 Speaker 1: Well, they say, we're spending it on the team, doesn't 172 00:08:00,320 --> 00:08:03,240 Speaker 1: get directed towards the Pirates, right. 173 00:08:03,240 --> 00:08:06,320 Speaker 3: The Pirates. The Pirates are the perfect example. They they 174 00:08:06,360 --> 00:08:08,440 Speaker 3: had a I saw it because I was on the 175 00:08:08,440 --> 00:08:11,840 Speaker 3: Players Association. I saw the proposal that they gave to 176 00:08:11,880 --> 00:08:16,000 Speaker 3: the Players Association of why the money that they're receiving 177 00:08:16,760 --> 00:08:23,560 Speaker 3: isn't being allocated into into their big league payroll, it's 178 00:08:23,600 --> 00:08:28,040 Speaker 3: being allocated into their team. And they were building up assets. 179 00:08:28,440 --> 00:08:31,280 Speaker 3: They redid Pirate City down in down In Florida. 180 00:08:31,320 --> 00:08:33,360 Speaker 1: While they improved real estate basically. 181 00:08:33,160 --> 00:08:36,400 Speaker 3: Essentially improved real estate, which has their you know, that's 182 00:08:36,440 --> 00:08:38,959 Speaker 3: an asset that improved. They built a pirate City down 183 00:08:39,000 --> 00:08:43,800 Speaker 3: in the dr to improve their Dominican Republic slash Venezuela 184 00:08:43,840 --> 00:08:47,480 Speaker 3: and slash Latin American footprint. To grow the team. And 185 00:08:47,480 --> 00:08:50,640 Speaker 3: that's how they're going to grow their team, all assets. 186 00:08:51,440 --> 00:08:56,280 Speaker 3: That's like said, Yeah, frustrating, it's very frustrating. 187 00:08:56,400 --> 00:08:59,920 Speaker 1: Yeah, it is a wild article to read. How aggressive 188 00:09:00,040 --> 00:09:03,240 Speaker 1: if it just became with some of what he said. 189 00:09:03,480 --> 00:09:08,839 Speaker 4: Right, you don't see with the CBA fight looming, you 190 00:09:08,880 --> 00:09:11,319 Speaker 4: don't usually see one side or the other jump out 191 00:09:11,320 --> 00:09:14,520 Speaker 4: this big this early, right, I mean Rob, Rob must 192 00:09:14,640 --> 00:09:18,000 Speaker 4: think that he's got the goods on people. You know, 193 00:09:18,000 --> 00:09:19,640 Speaker 4: it's gonna be fun at the All Star Game this 194 00:09:19,720 --> 00:09:23,199 Speaker 4: year when because he normally shows up at the players party, is. 195 00:09:23,120 --> 00:09:24,840 Speaker 2: He going to show up at the players No doubt. 196 00:09:25,080 --> 00:09:27,720 Speaker 1: They'll show up and play it all cordial. It's like 197 00:09:27,800 --> 00:09:31,160 Speaker 1: watching some some fancy schmancy show. 198 00:09:31,480 --> 00:09:33,400 Speaker 2: I get them to commit on the show again and 199 00:09:34,080 --> 00:09:34,480 Speaker 2: coming on. 200 00:09:35,440 --> 00:09:38,760 Speaker 1: Correct, he said, I'm in. We went deep into scheduling 201 00:09:38,880 --> 00:09:39,280 Speaker 1: and then he. 202 00:09:39,280 --> 00:09:41,160 Speaker 2: Was out through seven hundred hoops. 203 00:09:41,280 --> 00:09:45,880 Speaker 1: Yeah, but you should trust him. How does a player 204 00:09:45,920 --> 00:09:49,079 Speaker 1: react a in a meeting like that? Because we've heard 205 00:09:49,080 --> 00:09:51,360 Speaker 1: about these meetings for the last few years where he 206 00:09:51,559 --> 00:09:54,679 Speaker 1: rolls in and basically just spits as much game as 207 00:09:54,720 --> 00:09:58,960 Speaker 1: possible about how following anything he says will cure all. 208 00:10:00,040 --> 00:10:02,560 Speaker 1: Also as if we have like this massive, massive issue, 209 00:10:02,600 --> 00:10:05,160 Speaker 1: like the sport is dying. Right, He comes in with 210 00:10:05,400 --> 00:10:09,000 Speaker 1: tons of negativity and then b he tells the public 211 00:10:09,240 --> 00:10:10,959 Speaker 1: about his plan and how he's trying to play them 212 00:10:10,960 --> 00:10:13,960 Speaker 1: like a fiddle. How do players react to this? Are players, 213 00:10:15,840 --> 00:10:17,760 Speaker 1: I don't want to say, does he think players are 214 00:10:17,760 --> 00:10:19,120 Speaker 1: this stupid? That's how I want to put it. 215 00:10:19,360 --> 00:10:21,839 Speaker 3: There are some players who are that disengaged that he 216 00:10:21,880 --> 00:10:24,679 Speaker 3: believes that this will work. Okay. He believes that there 217 00:10:24,760 --> 00:10:30,640 Speaker 3: is a discord, there's disconnect from the upper level earners 218 00:10:30,800 --> 00:10:33,200 Speaker 3: and the lower level earners. And I would agree that 219 00:10:33,840 --> 00:10:37,000 Speaker 3: there's always factions. There's you know, in some of the 220 00:10:37,160 --> 00:10:41,439 Speaker 3: other labor strife, there was black players, Latin players, white players. 221 00:10:41,960 --> 00:10:47,240 Speaker 3: Now there's high big earners, little earners, rookies, and now 222 00:10:47,280 --> 00:10:50,120 Speaker 3: it's you know, Latin American player, whatever it is, there's factions. 223 00:10:50,160 --> 00:10:52,360 Speaker 3: And if he feels like he can split those factions 224 00:10:52,360 --> 00:10:57,120 Speaker 3: like last year or I mean last CBA, they voted essentially, 225 00:10:57,160 --> 00:11:00,360 Speaker 3: the executive board voted, no, we don't want to exit this. 226 00:11:01,480 --> 00:11:04,240 Speaker 3: He saw it as a bunch of one hundred million 227 00:11:04,280 --> 00:11:07,080 Speaker 3: dollar players that said, no, we don't, we don't want 228 00:11:07,120 --> 00:11:10,200 Speaker 3: to accept this. And so he's to me, he's attacking 229 00:11:10,240 --> 00:11:14,080 Speaker 3: the disengaged player. He feels a disengaged player or the 230 00:11:14,160 --> 00:11:17,640 Speaker 3: uninformed player are the younger players, which really is eighty 231 00:11:17,679 --> 00:11:18,480 Speaker 3: five percent. 232 00:11:18,200 --> 00:11:19,480 Speaker 2: Of the league. 233 00:11:19,600 --> 00:11:22,000 Speaker 3: And he's going, Okay, well I can get you guys 234 00:11:22,040 --> 00:11:24,000 Speaker 3: more money. Well, if you're making a million dollars and 235 00:11:24,080 --> 00:11:29,760 Speaker 3: he can get you twenty thousand extra, oh okay, well listen. So, 236 00:11:30,240 --> 00:11:32,680 Speaker 3: in my opinion, the union has to make sure they're 237 00:11:32,679 --> 00:11:39,240 Speaker 3: informing and engaging those younger players. Oh wait, they brought 238 00:11:39,280 --> 00:11:42,240 Speaker 3: the minor league players into the union already, so they've 239 00:11:42,240 --> 00:11:45,120 Speaker 3: been engaging those guys. You're in the minor leagues, you're 240 00:11:45,120 --> 00:11:48,719 Speaker 3: starting to hear that stuff. How that goes across, I 241 00:11:48,800 --> 00:11:49,160 Speaker 3: don't know. 242 00:11:49,320 --> 00:11:50,640 Speaker 4: That is the one thing though, I know we have 243 00:11:50,679 --> 00:11:52,040 Speaker 4: to other break but this is the one thing in 244 00:11:52,040 --> 00:11:54,120 Speaker 4: this article that I found interesting that he admitted that 245 00:11:54,200 --> 00:11:55,960 Speaker 4: only the top players get paid, because. 246 00:11:55,720 --> 00:11:58,080 Speaker 2: That's been something I've talked about for years. There's no 247 00:11:58,160 --> 00:11:58,920 Speaker 2: middle class. 248 00:11:59,120 --> 00:12:00,920 Speaker 4: If you're either really good good you get paid a lot, 249 00:12:01,360 --> 00:12:03,360 Speaker 4: or there's a young guy in a rookie or you're 250 00:12:03,679 --> 00:12:06,040 Speaker 4: a non roster invite guy, so you have like six 251 00:12:06,080 --> 00:12:08,520 Speaker 4: to seven years of big league service time, you can't 252 00:12:08,520 --> 00:12:11,040 Speaker 4: get a job because they'd rather pay the seventy eight 253 00:12:11,120 --> 00:12:14,080 Speaker 4: hundred thousand to the rookie for a bench guy when 254 00:12:14,080 --> 00:12:15,520 Speaker 4: the bench guy's more valuable. 255 00:12:15,800 --> 00:12:19,400 Speaker 1: But who created that? Both sides did, right. 256 00:12:19,240 --> 00:12:21,480 Speaker 4: Both sides did because they, oh, look at these huge 257 00:12:21,520 --> 00:12:25,320 Speaker 4: top salaries Wan Soto show, Hey, Vlad Guerrero, right, but 258 00:12:25,360 --> 00:12:28,080 Speaker 4: they don't look at the guy that was that's a 259 00:12:28,080 --> 00:12:30,360 Speaker 4: good player that could help a team, you know, the 260 00:12:30,400 --> 00:12:33,040 Speaker 4: three four five million dollars, like, oh for that five million. 261 00:12:33,080 --> 00:12:35,760 Speaker 4: Because of the GMS and the way they spit numbers out, 262 00:12:36,080 --> 00:12:38,080 Speaker 4: they're like, we can get a rookie that are almost 263 00:12:38,160 --> 00:12:41,120 Speaker 4: as good, almost as good, but nobody's going to really 264 00:12:41,160 --> 00:12:41,920 Speaker 4: notice the difference. 265 00:12:41,920 --> 00:12:44,600 Speaker 1: Projected one point one war versus one point three war. 266 00:12:44,679 --> 00:12:45,920 Speaker 1: These are the conversation if you. 267 00:12:45,920 --> 00:12:47,760 Speaker 4: Look at But if you look at the teams that 268 00:12:47,800 --> 00:12:50,520 Speaker 4: are good, they're the teams that have those veteran guys. 269 00:12:51,080 --> 00:12:53,440 Speaker 4: Obviously they usually have more money, but those are the 270 00:12:53,520 --> 00:12:56,040 Speaker 4: teams that have those veteran The Dodgers, right, they have 271 00:12:56,360 --> 00:12:59,160 Speaker 4: they have the key key Hernandez type of guy that 272 00:12:59,200 --> 00:13:02,720 Speaker 4: can play different positions, it bounce around, right and who another. 273 00:13:02,840 --> 00:13:05,040 Speaker 4: I mean the Braves when they won, right, they brought 274 00:13:05,040 --> 00:13:07,559 Speaker 4: in those all those outfielders to do specific roles that 275 00:13:07,600 --> 00:13:09,960 Speaker 4: were a little bit older, but they'd filled roles. You 276 00:13:10,040 --> 00:13:12,000 Speaker 4: need those guys because you can't just throw rookies out 277 00:13:12,000 --> 00:13:13,840 Speaker 4: there and say, oh, fill in or pinchitty what well, 278 00:13:13,840 --> 00:13:14,679 Speaker 4: they've never done it. 279 00:13:15,120 --> 00:13:17,600 Speaker 3: Oh no, that you can't. You can't. We're just gonna 280 00:13:17,640 --> 00:13:19,880 Speaker 3: keep doing it because it really doesn't matter to them 281 00:13:19,880 --> 00:13:22,040 Speaker 3: to win that. Ultimately, you want to you want to 282 00:13:22,280 --> 00:13:25,000 Speaker 3: come onto the player's side with the CBA, like you 283 00:13:25,080 --> 00:13:27,800 Speaker 3: want to help the players figure out how to get 284 00:13:27,800 --> 00:13:30,800 Speaker 3: all thirty teams to think the same way the players do. 285 00:13:31,480 --> 00:13:35,640 Speaker 3: It's to win. I was never gonna get won Soto's money. 286 00:13:35,920 --> 00:13:37,719 Speaker 3: I was probably not going to be in the minor 287 00:13:37,800 --> 00:13:40,640 Speaker 3: leagues my whole career. So somewhere and there is my earnings. 288 00:13:42,160 --> 00:13:45,480 Speaker 3: It is what it is. I wanted to win. Players 289 00:13:45,520 --> 00:13:48,160 Speaker 3: want to win. Owners want to make money. 290 00:13:48,280 --> 00:13:50,560 Speaker 1: That's right, right, there's some that want to win. 291 00:13:50,640 --> 00:13:52,680 Speaker 3: That's where the negotiation needs to start. If you want 292 00:13:52,720 --> 00:13:55,560 Speaker 3: to really get on the players side learn what it 293 00:13:55,640 --> 00:13:56,520 Speaker 3: means to want to win. 294 00:13:56,679 --> 00:13:58,559 Speaker 1: Yeah, but also I mean I would be firing back 295 00:13:58,600 --> 00:14:02,320 Speaker 1: if I'm in the clubhouse and the commissioners talk, It'd 296 00:14:02,360 --> 00:14:04,599 Speaker 1: be like, why don't you guys figure out sharing the 297 00:14:04,640 --> 00:14:09,800 Speaker 1: money yourself instead of trying to suppress salaries for twenty 298 00:14:09,800 --> 00:14:11,640 Speaker 1: five years and get us to hate each other. That's 299 00:14:11,720 --> 00:14:14,360 Speaker 1: essentially what he just said. I've been trying to bash 300 00:14:14,440 --> 00:14:18,000 Speaker 1: you down, and now you should let me lead you 301 00:14:18,080 --> 00:14:22,200 Speaker 1: to another place that will bash you down further, right, 302 00:14:23,000 --> 00:14:26,320 Speaker 1: Because also keep in mind the game is changing. A 303 00:14:26,360 --> 00:14:28,520 Speaker 1: lot of this is shifting to real estate being the 304 00:14:28,560 --> 00:14:31,160 Speaker 1: real profitability of the team. How much is that going 305 00:14:31,200 --> 00:14:33,240 Speaker 1: to be shared? None? 306 00:14:33,440 --> 00:14:33,880 Speaker 3: Exactly? 307 00:14:33,960 --> 00:14:36,440 Speaker 1: What chan a brain dead claim? 308 00:14:36,520 --> 00:14:38,360 Speaker 4: How are you going to get I know we got 309 00:14:38,360 --> 00:14:39,560 Speaker 4: to go, but Rob Manford, how are you going to 310 00:14:39,600 --> 00:14:42,880 Speaker 4: get the Yankees? You have Yes Network, Cubs have Marquis Red, 311 00:14:42,920 --> 00:14:45,640 Speaker 4: Sox have Nessing, Dodgers have sports at LA. Are you 312 00:14:45,640 --> 00:14:47,240 Speaker 4: going to get them to give that up and say, oh, 313 00:14:47,280 --> 00:14:51,120 Speaker 4: we're gonna go into a centralized TV deal where we're 314 00:14:51,120 --> 00:14:53,880 Speaker 4: all gonna split it When way more people watch the Dodgers, 315 00:14:53,880 --> 00:14:55,560 Speaker 4: the Cubs, the Mets take. 316 00:14:55,440 --> 00:14:57,360 Speaker 1: It a step further half the teams on tons of 317 00:14:57,360 --> 00:14:59,880 Speaker 1: real estate all around, and none of that is going 318 00:15:00,080 --> 00:15:02,760 Speaker 1: to go into this. You can't even quantify that. You're 319 00:15:02,920 --> 00:15:05,360 Speaker 1: what are you gonna do, Oh, this restaurant, we're auditing 320 00:15:05,400 --> 00:15:07,960 Speaker 1: their profit that's going into your profit sharing. That is 321 00:15:08,000 --> 00:15:09,920 Speaker 1: not happening. That's a zero. 322 00:15:10,280 --> 00:15:14,040 Speaker 3: Memorabilia is over a one billion dollar industry game. US 323 00:15:14,120 --> 00:15:19,080 Speaker 3: memorabilia players get zero. It okay, just another example. 324 00:15:19,840 --> 00:15:23,040 Speaker 1: Outrageous quotes in here. It's it's very much worth a read. 325 00:15:23,080 --> 00:15:27,040 Speaker 1: He takes like really really hard shots at the players 326 00:15:27,040 --> 00:15:30,080 Speaker 1: in the players' union and then kind of finishes it 327 00:15:30,080 --> 00:15:32,720 Speaker 1: with over the last twenty years, the slowest growing salaries 328 00:15:32,760 --> 00:15:36,280 Speaker 1: among the four major leagues four major professional sport baseball. 329 00:15:37,160 --> 00:15:39,240 Speaker 1: He says, when I make that point to the players, 330 00:15:39,280 --> 00:15:43,120 Speaker 1: to me, that's a failure on our part. 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Promo code foul Cardinals Sweep the Guardians, 354 00:16:53,840 --> 00:16:55,520 Speaker 1: Marlin sweep the Diamondbacks. 355 00:16:55,560 --> 00:17:01,240 Speaker 4: Those are hot seven in a row side that that's 356 00:17:01,320 --> 00:17:03,040 Speaker 4: that's fine. When we had Jim Bowden on this might 357 00:17:03,040 --> 00:17:10,280 Speaker 4: switch them from buyers and sellers. 358 00:17:07,200 --> 00:17:09,040 Speaker 2: And the White Sox beat the Giants two out of three, and. 359 00:17:09,560 --> 00:17:11,560 Speaker 1: The Giants got swept by the Marlins and then lost 360 00:17:11,560 --> 00:17:14,200 Speaker 1: two out of three. That this is upset week. 361 00:17:14,280 --> 00:17:14,880 Speaker 2: This is not good. 362 00:17:15,040 --> 00:17:17,199 Speaker 1: Tough week. Also for betters who like to fade the 363 00:17:17,240 --> 00:17:18,800 Speaker 1: bad teams school. 364 00:17:18,800 --> 00:17:19,840 Speaker 2: If you didn't see him last. 365 00:17:19,760 --> 00:17:24,000 Speaker 1: Night, oh my gosh, they talking trash eight of the 366 00:17:24,040 --> 00:17:24,720 Speaker 1: first nine. 367 00:17:25,000 --> 00:17:26,920 Speaker 4: Yeah, you see him talking trash, the bucks and bucks 368 00:17:26,960 --> 00:17:29,399 Speaker 4: and into the to the warning track and he's you know, 369 00:17:29,440 --> 00:17:30,360 Speaker 4: it's fun banter. 370 00:17:30,240 --> 00:17:30,760 Speaker 3: But it was. 371 00:17:31,600 --> 00:17:34,800 Speaker 1: Twins also are a team that so I think should sell. 372 00:17:35,040 --> 00:17:37,040 Speaker 2: So right, they're not catching the Tigers. 373 00:17:37,400 --> 00:17:40,800 Speaker 1: They're not sorry, they're starting pitching crumbled this month over. 374 00:17:42,320 --> 00:17:45,400 Speaker 4: If they don't, If they don't sell, I mean they're 375 00:17:45,400 --> 00:17:47,359 Speaker 4: gonna basically run the same team back again next year. 376 00:17:47,400 --> 00:17:49,040 Speaker 2: It hasn't proven right for the last two years. 377 00:17:49,160 --> 00:17:51,120 Speaker 1: Time to switch things up. This is the time right 378 00:17:51,200 --> 00:17:53,880 Speaker 1: where the buyers. 379 00:17:53,480 --> 00:17:55,800 Speaker 4: It's a seller's market if you get the right if 380 00:17:55,800 --> 00:17:58,119 Speaker 4: he has the right pieces, yeah, I mean some stuff 381 00:17:58,119 --> 00:17:58,800 Speaker 4: for some guys. 382 00:17:59,240 --> 00:18:02,920 Speaker 1: There's a few, including obviously Duran who still has years left. 383 00:18:03,000 --> 00:18:06,800 Speaker 2: Jackson Jackson jack They were willing to move one of 384 00:18:06,840 --> 00:18:08,359 Speaker 2: their starters. They could get some stuff too. 385 00:18:08,520 --> 00:18:12,680 Speaker 1: Yeah, so this could be that kind of time. Can 386 00:18:12,680 --> 00:18:16,200 Speaker 1: we show this graphic of James Wood and Taoscar Hernandez. 387 00:18:16,520 --> 00:18:20,679 Speaker 1: Obviously you have the crowd out there that's disappointed with 388 00:18:21,520 --> 00:18:24,000 Speaker 1: how some of the voting went with the All Star process, 389 00:18:24,160 --> 00:18:27,560 Speaker 1: and James Wood is having a year. Also, yesterday he 390 00:18:27,600 --> 00:18:30,560 Speaker 1: got intentionally walked four times, getting the Barry Bonds treatment. 391 00:18:31,200 --> 00:18:34,560 Speaker 1: He's got better numbers than to Ascar Hernandez. Tayo had 392 00:18:34,600 --> 00:18:36,879 Speaker 1: a big season last year with the Dodgers, part of 393 00:18:36,880 --> 00:18:39,440 Speaker 1: the World Series winning team. You're gonna get out voted on. 394 00:18:39,520 --> 00:18:40,240 Speaker 2: There's a problem. 395 00:18:40,320 --> 00:18:42,399 Speaker 4: Don't get mad at the All Star voting because it 396 00:18:42,440 --> 00:18:44,280 Speaker 4: comes down to fans, and the fans have to vote 397 00:18:44,320 --> 00:18:46,280 Speaker 4: more people, sorry to say it, pay attention to the 398 00:18:46,359 --> 00:18:49,879 Speaker 4: Dodgers and what Tayo did last last year than what 399 00:18:49,960 --> 00:18:51,760 Speaker 4: James will just done. Now, James Wood's gonna go out 400 00:18:51,760 --> 00:18:53,680 Speaker 4: in a great career. But here's the thing, he'll get 401 00:18:53,720 --> 00:18:56,320 Speaker 4: in who eventually get in. But here's the thing with Tayo, 402 00:18:56,440 --> 00:18:58,240 Speaker 4: He's also the All Star Game is also a reward 403 00:18:58,240 --> 00:19:01,239 Speaker 4: for sometimes what you did last year. It doesn't There 404 00:19:01,240 --> 00:19:03,120 Speaker 4: are many times where guys got into the Ulstar Game 405 00:19:03,160 --> 00:19:05,080 Speaker 4: of starters voted in because they had a good year 406 00:19:05,080 --> 00:19:06,639 Speaker 4: of the year before and had nothing to do with 407 00:19:06,640 --> 00:19:09,760 Speaker 4: the year they're having that year. 408 00:19:09,359 --> 00:19:12,080 Speaker 2: The Star Game to me is they're like, oh, you're 409 00:19:12,119 --> 00:19:15,120 Speaker 2: a seven time. Also we're like, eh, I mean it's cool. 410 00:19:15,160 --> 00:19:17,439 Speaker 4: But also there are times where certain guys should have 411 00:19:17,440 --> 00:19:18,840 Speaker 4: got in and other guys got in. 412 00:19:18,960 --> 00:19:21,800 Speaker 1: It all the time, all the time. Every year we 413 00:19:21,840 --> 00:19:23,760 Speaker 1: talk about snubs or a guy that should have made 414 00:19:23,760 --> 00:19:27,280 Speaker 1: it and didn't. I mean, Francisco Lindor has finished what 415 00:19:27,359 --> 00:19:30,440 Speaker 1: top five MVP years. He's had great years the last 416 00:19:30,440 --> 00:19:32,240 Speaker 1: few years with the Mets, and I think this will 417 00:19:32,280 --> 00:19:34,760 Speaker 1: be the first year that he gets in with them, which, hey, 418 00:19:34,800 --> 00:19:37,639 Speaker 1: it is what it is. But also there's a popularity 419 00:19:37,640 --> 00:19:40,679 Speaker 1: contest to it. People know they don't know James Wood exactly. 420 00:19:41,160 --> 00:19:41,400 Speaker 3: Yeah. 421 00:19:44,000 --> 00:19:49,480 Speaker 1: Year spreading rumors were about a month away from the 422 00:19:49,520 --> 00:19:54,080 Speaker 1: trade deadline and we might add Luis Severino's name to 423 00:19:54,160 --> 00:19:57,480 Speaker 1: the list for a ball club. It's complicated, but USA 424 00:19:57,560 --> 00:20:01,560 Speaker 1: today is Bob Nightingale essentially that the A's cannot wait 425 00:20:01,600 --> 00:20:05,560 Speaker 1: to trade him. Months after signing him, they cannot wait 426 00:20:05,640 --> 00:20:09,520 Speaker 1: to trade him. And Luis has been very vocal, very 427 00:20:09,520 --> 00:20:14,560 Speaker 1: transparent about how he does not like organization in the 428 00:20:14,600 --> 00:20:18,360 Speaker 1: way that the setup is. He went from the bougie 429 00:20:18,359 --> 00:20:22,320 Speaker 1: Mets to the minor league ballpark A's and he knew it. 430 00:20:22,800 --> 00:20:26,200 Speaker 1: He signed a three year, sixty seven million dollar contract. 431 00:20:26,240 --> 00:20:28,440 Speaker 1: He's got a player option on that third year, so 432 00:20:28,520 --> 00:20:31,000 Speaker 1: he was well aware of what he was getting himself into. 433 00:20:31,280 --> 00:20:33,240 Speaker 4: No, I don't think he was. No, I think you're 434 00:20:33,240 --> 00:20:35,560 Speaker 4: wrong about well. I think really I didn't think he 435 00:20:35,640 --> 00:20:37,640 Speaker 4: thought it would be just bad. I thought, I don't. 436 00:20:37,760 --> 00:20:39,159 Speaker 4: I mean, I don't even know if he took a 437 00:20:39,280 --> 00:20:41,479 Speaker 4: visit there before he signed. He did they well, they 438 00:20:41,520 --> 00:20:44,240 Speaker 4: did at Cutterfield that he did his press conference. 439 00:20:44,680 --> 00:20:46,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, but he'd already agreed by that point. 440 00:20:46,880 --> 00:20:49,639 Speaker 1: What I'm saying, flunk your own physical to get out 441 00:20:49,680 --> 00:20:49,800 Speaker 1: of it. 442 00:20:49,880 --> 00:20:54,440 Speaker 2: But here's the thing, though, what he says, though, it's 443 00:20:54,480 --> 00:20:55,840 Speaker 2: not the same. We don't have a lot of fans, 444 00:20:55,880 --> 00:20:56,880 Speaker 2: which they don't. They're not drawing. 445 00:20:57,240 --> 00:20:59,480 Speaker 1: Neither did Oakland Fair for that big at. 446 00:20:59,440 --> 00:21:01,000 Speaker 4: Least was a big stadium, and it felt like a 447 00:21:01,080 --> 00:21:03,480 Speaker 4: big league park, right, and then you go our clubhouses 448 00:21:03,520 --> 00:21:05,040 Speaker 4: in left field, which is a pain in the ass. 449 00:21:05,080 --> 00:21:06,639 Speaker 2: People can say, oh, it's a big leagues. It's a 450 00:21:06,680 --> 00:21:07,160 Speaker 2: pain in the ass. 451 00:21:07,280 --> 00:21:09,359 Speaker 4: Players go in the clubhouse all the time, trust me, 452 00:21:09,800 --> 00:21:11,520 Speaker 4: especially pitchers. Pitchers go up there and sit in. 453 00:21:11,520 --> 00:21:14,080 Speaker 2: The air conditioning between innings and do things. 454 00:21:14,200 --> 00:21:16,840 Speaker 4: And players go up there all the time, and so 455 00:21:16,960 --> 00:21:18,920 Speaker 4: don't give me. The players sit and dug out, some 456 00:21:19,000 --> 00:21:20,560 Speaker 4: players sitting and dug out more than others. 457 00:21:20,600 --> 00:21:22,199 Speaker 2: Okay. And then the other thing is. 458 00:21:24,359 --> 00:21:27,439 Speaker 4: Sacramento is getting played on every single day when they 459 00:21:27,480 --> 00:21:28,719 Speaker 4: go on the road. The A's go on the road, 460 00:21:28,720 --> 00:21:30,760 Speaker 4: the Giants, Triple A comes into place, the field is 461 00:21:30,800 --> 00:21:33,040 Speaker 4: getting beat up. How many pitchers have complained about the mound. 462 00:21:33,800 --> 00:21:36,119 Speaker 4: It's just it's a minor league park. I'm sorry. And 463 00:21:36,200 --> 00:21:38,639 Speaker 4: the difference of people say what about Steinbreder that's the 464 00:21:38,800 --> 00:21:42,280 Speaker 4: Yankees park, the Yankees versus the Athletics and even the 465 00:21:42,320 --> 00:21:45,120 Speaker 4: Giants to an extent, and Triple A are gonna spend 466 00:21:45,200 --> 00:21:48,360 Speaker 4: more money to make Steinbrender field because the Yankees want 467 00:21:48,400 --> 00:21:50,560 Speaker 4: the best of the best. So Savarino played for the 468 00:21:50,640 --> 00:21:52,960 Speaker 4: Yankees in Steinbanner, he knows what it's like. Then he 469 00:21:53,040 --> 00:21:56,119 Speaker 4: played for the Mets. They're spending money on everything, and 470 00:21:56,200 --> 00:21:58,040 Speaker 4: then he goes to the A's that are like, eh, 471 00:21:58,200 --> 00:21:59,679 Speaker 4: we're gonna get by in Triple A. 472 00:21:59,760 --> 00:22:03,680 Speaker 1: For But nothing that you just said is something that 473 00:22:04,520 --> 00:22:05,919 Speaker 1: I was unaware of, and that. 474 00:22:06,160 --> 00:22:08,200 Speaker 3: But he didn't know it was going to be this bad. 475 00:22:08,440 --> 00:22:10,880 Speaker 3: You don't know the extent of it because we're talking 476 00:22:10,920 --> 00:22:13,800 Speaker 3: about little things that really make you. He never threw 477 00:22:13,840 --> 00:22:16,760 Speaker 3: a pitch. Nobody threw a pitch on that mound, which 478 00:22:17,320 --> 00:22:21,520 Speaker 3: has come out to say, Uh, Pablo probably hurt his arm. 479 00:22:22,560 --> 00:22:25,600 Speaker 3: Zach Wheeler said he had to throw all arm. You 480 00:22:25,760 --> 00:22:27,920 Speaker 3: didn't know that the air conditioning in the locker room 481 00:22:28,240 --> 00:22:32,160 Speaker 3: wasn't going to work. You didn't know what that walk 482 00:22:32,280 --> 00:22:35,120 Speaker 3: from left field is. Least Everena has been a big 483 00:22:35,200 --> 00:22:36,919 Speaker 3: leader for a long time to say you're going back 484 00:22:36,960 --> 00:22:41,000 Speaker 3: to a minor league field, How bad could it actually be? Like, 485 00:22:41,240 --> 00:22:46,000 Speaker 3: teams don't totally understand unless you talk to another player. 486 00:22:46,080 --> 00:22:48,280 Speaker 3: Players talk all the time. Hey, what's it like to 487 00:22:48,359 --> 00:22:50,560 Speaker 3: be with the Marlins? Well, you know what, we don't 488 00:22:50,600 --> 00:22:54,440 Speaker 3: have TV or air conditioning on our team plane. Here's 489 00:22:54,480 --> 00:22:57,639 Speaker 3: a picture of here's a picture of me and Yelli 490 00:22:57,800 --> 00:23:00,520 Speaker 3: sweating with our shirts off on the actual team flight 491 00:23:00,600 --> 00:23:03,440 Speaker 3: with Marlin. WHOA, I don't want to go there, but 492 00:23:03,680 --> 00:23:07,159 Speaker 3: we love this manager. Whatever he did not know. You 493 00:23:07,320 --> 00:23:10,080 Speaker 3: can't know the little things that make one hundred and 494 00:23:10,119 --> 00:23:13,880 Speaker 3: sixty two games a grind, that make every seven days 495 00:23:13,880 --> 00:23:19,480 Speaker 3: when you're like, we're going back home a grind. And clearly, 496 00:23:19,600 --> 00:23:24,320 Speaker 3: based on his numbers, he's feeling that, and the and 497 00:23:24,400 --> 00:23:26,920 Speaker 3: the A's want to trade him because they did. The 498 00:23:27,000 --> 00:23:29,680 Speaker 3: only reason they signed him was so they could get 499 00:23:29,720 --> 00:23:34,520 Speaker 3: to their mandatory minimum threshold. Yes they were. They were 500 00:23:34,560 --> 00:23:37,440 Speaker 3: told to spend the league's money, which they were given, 501 00:23:38,720 --> 00:23:40,280 Speaker 3: and they did, and they said, see we did it. 502 00:23:40,560 --> 00:23:42,720 Speaker 3: Now let's trade them. We'll go get another guy, and 503 00:23:42,760 --> 00:23:45,920 Speaker 3: we're just going to keep checking all our boxes until 504 00:23:45,960 --> 00:23:47,520 Speaker 3: we can sell the team when we move it to 505 00:23:47,600 --> 00:23:48,160 Speaker 3: Las Vegas. 506 00:23:48,240 --> 00:23:51,320 Speaker 4: Here's the thing you have to understand. Also, road teams 507 00:23:51,359 --> 00:23:53,000 Speaker 4: going there for three games, you can get through anything 508 00:23:53,080 --> 00:23:54,960 Speaker 4: for three days. I'm sorry, you can get through. 509 00:23:55,200 --> 00:23:55,680 Speaker 3: But they got it. 510 00:23:55,760 --> 00:23:57,560 Speaker 4: They know not only they're this year, they're their next 511 00:23:57,640 --> 00:24:00,240 Speaker 4: year and the year after that and maybe longer on 512 00:24:00,280 --> 00:24:03,760 Speaker 4: how construction goes. So it's a different grind. That's why 513 00:24:03,800 --> 00:24:06,760 Speaker 4: the raised situation is different. Again, they're only there for 514 00:24:06,840 --> 00:24:08,440 Speaker 4: one year. They're like, okay, we can get through this 515 00:24:08,560 --> 00:24:11,720 Speaker 4: one year. And again they have every I know Major 516 00:24:11,760 --> 00:24:14,159 Speaker 4: League Baseball tried to make Sacramento as good as they can, 517 00:24:14,480 --> 00:24:17,000 Speaker 4: but the Yankees have had this infrastructure in there for 518 00:24:17,160 --> 00:24:20,159 Speaker 4: years to make their place the best. And to be 519 00:24:20,200 --> 00:24:22,600 Speaker 4: honest with you, the Ras are still in their general 520 00:24:22,640 --> 00:24:25,520 Speaker 4: area of Tampa Bay, so they still get fit. They 521 00:24:25,680 --> 00:24:29,119 Speaker 4: they're for the size of that stadium. They packed that stadium. 522 00:24:29,200 --> 00:24:31,879 Speaker 1: I'm not disputing that. I'm just saying that I feel 523 00:24:31,960 --> 00:24:36,480 Speaker 1: like it was pretty obvious Age overpaid to go somewhere. 524 00:24:36,240 --> 00:24:39,520 Speaker 4: Didn't know would be this bad. You can't little There's 525 00:24:39,560 --> 00:24:42,479 Speaker 4: an old thing in baseball. Little things equal big things, right, 526 00:24:42,600 --> 00:24:45,160 Speaker 4: So the more little things that get on his nerve 527 00:24:46,480 --> 00:24:48,600 Speaker 4: like oh the mound, this, the arens, just then it 528 00:24:48,680 --> 00:24:52,080 Speaker 4: turns into man, this place sucks, and then it turns 529 00:24:52,080 --> 00:24:54,520 Speaker 4: into this. You know, crowds like little things that up 530 00:24:54,520 --> 00:24:55,320 Speaker 4: to huge things. 531 00:24:55,520 --> 00:24:58,880 Speaker 3: You're there every day, every day for hours. 532 00:25:00,840 --> 00:25:04,080 Speaker 1: I actually think him speaking out is smart. If he 533 00:25:04,160 --> 00:25:07,560 Speaker 1: doesn't say anything, you kind of skate by and maybe 534 00:25:07,600 --> 00:25:09,840 Speaker 1: he doesn't get dealt right. This gives first of all, 535 00:25:10,040 --> 00:25:13,040 Speaker 1: proof on the A side, if there's a grievance, they 536 00:25:13,080 --> 00:25:16,800 Speaker 1: can say this guy desperately wanted out. We have it 537 00:25:16,920 --> 00:25:21,959 Speaker 1: documented he essentially demanded the trade without demanding one. Right now, 538 00:25:22,080 --> 00:25:23,600 Speaker 1: it's gonna get tricky. They're gonna have to eat some 539 00:25:23,640 --> 00:25:26,560 Speaker 1: money right now. I mean, the market wasn't going to 540 00:25:26,600 --> 00:25:29,320 Speaker 1: pay him at that level, So they're going to have 541 00:25:29,359 --> 00:25:31,879 Speaker 1: to eat some money to accomplish a trade. But he 542 00:25:31,960 --> 00:25:36,119 Speaker 1: could help some teams. I would trade for Luis Severino 543 00:25:36,560 --> 00:25:38,479 Speaker 1: with the work that he's put together on the road too, 544 00:25:39,640 --> 00:25:41,600 Speaker 1: Sign me up. So don't you think it's smart for 545 00:25:41,720 --> 00:25:43,119 Speaker 1: him to be a little vocal about it if he 546 00:25:43,240 --> 00:25:46,080 Speaker 1: is pissed, Yes, because then it does give him a 547 00:25:46,160 --> 00:25:49,000 Speaker 1: chance to get moved. If he doesn't say anything, he's 548 00:25:49,040 --> 00:25:50,400 Speaker 1: probably not going to get moved. 549 00:25:50,480 --> 00:25:50,600 Speaker 3: Right. 550 00:25:51,440 --> 00:25:53,840 Speaker 1: So there's a reputation portion of this where a lot 551 00:25:53,840 --> 00:25:55,640 Speaker 1: of people are looking at the case being like, dude, 552 00:25:55,720 --> 00:25:57,840 Speaker 1: stop whining. You got sixty seven million bucks to go 553 00:25:57,920 --> 00:26:00,840 Speaker 1: over there. But he's got nothing to lose by saying something, right, 554 00:26:02,840 --> 00:26:04,720 Speaker 1: you have to what's the worst case? 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Yankees, maybe plenty of teams 564 00:26:31,040 --> 00:26:33,879 Speaker 1: could use the Luis s Everinadris. 565 00:26:33,520 --> 00:26:34,960 Speaker 3: Said some things. He said some things. 566 00:26:35,160 --> 00:26:38,960 Speaker 2: Padres leaving the Yankees. He'd likes to talk. He's a 567 00:26:38,960 --> 00:26:40,560 Speaker 2: good guy. We've had him on our show in Arizona. 568 00:26:40,600 --> 00:26:41,320 Speaker 2: Guys should have been there. 569 00:26:41,359 --> 00:26:44,080 Speaker 1: Oh wait, Marcus Stroman said some things and he's on 570 00:26:44,160 --> 00:26:44,680 Speaker 1: the Yankees. 571 00:26:46,880 --> 00:26:47,679 Speaker 2: They can't move him. 572 00:26:48,000 --> 00:26:51,479 Speaker 1: No, no, no, even before he arrived. Before he arrived, 573 00:26:51,960 --> 00:26:54,600 Speaker 1: remember that he said something. 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But the case from Kepler 604 00:28:32,520 --> 00:28:34,280 Speaker 1: is that in the off season they told him he 605 00:28:34,320 --> 00:28:39,080 Speaker 1: would play every day, and after I'm exaggerating a little cratz, 606 00:28:39,120 --> 00:28:41,320 Speaker 1: but after like a week, they basically just said we're 607 00:28:41,360 --> 00:28:44,400 Speaker 1: platooning him and he's not going to hit against lefties. 608 00:28:44,880 --> 00:28:46,840 Speaker 3: He say, but he's not. 609 00:28:47,000 --> 00:28:51,560 Speaker 1: He's not playing well in general this year. He said 610 00:28:52,200 --> 00:28:54,680 Speaker 1: over the weekend, Hey, I'm not used to sitting like 611 00:28:54,760 --> 00:28:58,720 Speaker 1: this in my career. Should I go on? 612 00:28:59,480 --> 00:28:59,920 Speaker 3: Continue? 613 00:29:01,040 --> 00:29:03,080 Speaker 1: And he had a stretch coming up where he's sitting 614 00:29:03,160 --> 00:29:04,800 Speaker 1: four in a row stuff like that. He's like, I've 615 00:29:04,840 --> 00:29:07,160 Speaker 1: never done that. And I was told that I was 616 00:29:07,200 --> 00:29:09,760 Speaker 1: going to play every day, and now I'm getting platooned 617 00:29:10,160 --> 00:29:12,480 Speaker 1: pretty much from the jump of the season. 618 00:29:13,720 --> 00:29:19,040 Speaker 3: Hmmm. So not playing every day is tough. Don't go ahead, continue, 619 00:29:19,760 --> 00:29:20,240 Speaker 3: no doubt. 620 00:29:20,400 --> 00:29:22,920 Speaker 1: Not playing every day is tough from what I've heard. 621 00:29:23,600 --> 00:29:26,200 Speaker 1: But can we go back a step if if you 622 00:29:26,320 --> 00:29:29,080 Speaker 1: did tell a player, hey, come here, we're going to 623 00:29:29,120 --> 00:29:31,200 Speaker 1: play every day, we don't think you're a platoon player, 624 00:29:31,240 --> 00:29:33,320 Speaker 1: which actually, on the record, they did say over the 625 00:29:33,360 --> 00:29:35,600 Speaker 1: offseason we don't consider him a platoon player. We want 626 00:29:35,640 --> 00:29:36,440 Speaker 1: him to play every day. 627 00:29:36,680 --> 00:29:38,400 Speaker 2: But then your numbers are what your numbers are, and 628 00:29:38,440 --> 00:29:38,720 Speaker 2: they're like. 629 00:29:38,720 --> 00:29:39,800 Speaker 3: You know what, change your minds. 630 00:29:39,840 --> 00:29:44,080 Speaker 1: But the way they pivoted fast though, they they gave 631 00:29:44,120 --> 00:29:46,080 Speaker 1: him like a week, they gave him like three games, 632 00:29:46,120 --> 00:29:47,800 Speaker 1: and then they were like, nope, not hitting against them. 633 00:29:47,880 --> 00:29:49,600 Speaker 3: They want to win, they want to win the division. 634 00:29:49,800 --> 00:29:51,840 Speaker 1: I agree. I'm just stating his case, like should he 635 00:29:51,920 --> 00:29:52,720 Speaker 1: should he shut up? 636 00:29:53,840 --> 00:29:56,120 Speaker 3: He no, I would never tell somebody to shut up, 637 00:29:56,320 --> 00:29:58,480 Speaker 3: but I would tell somebody from. 638 00:29:58,400 --> 00:30:00,880 Speaker 1: What they told him and they recruited. Is I'm just 639 00:30:01,080 --> 00:30:03,440 Speaker 1: throwing the case out there. This is not my call. 640 00:30:04,800 --> 00:30:07,280 Speaker 3: Okay, he feels dupe, that's fair. You can say that. 641 00:30:07,560 --> 00:30:11,480 Speaker 3: You can say that, but he also knows that what 642 00:30:11,560 --> 00:30:14,520 Speaker 3: did you say two o seven two O seven eight 643 00:30:16,040 --> 00:30:18,080 Speaker 3: two o seven in it? You want that to go up, 644 00:30:18,600 --> 00:30:22,000 Speaker 3: or you want your playing time to go up? Make 645 00:30:22,040 --> 00:30:27,280 Speaker 3: that go up? Outo Kemp has historically hit lefties in 646 00:30:27,360 --> 00:30:31,960 Speaker 3: the minor leagues. Well, so their predisposed idea is, you 647 00:30:32,040 --> 00:30:34,120 Speaker 3: know what, We're gonna start moving him to left field. 648 00:30:34,160 --> 00:30:37,520 Speaker 3: See if you can stay when Harper comes back. Recently, 649 00:30:37,560 --> 00:30:41,400 Speaker 3: because Auto Kemp's been playing first base, there's a chance 650 00:30:41,440 --> 00:30:43,640 Speaker 3: Otto Kemp starts taking some of those lefty at bats. 651 00:30:44,080 --> 00:30:48,600 Speaker 3: This has been a struggle for the Phillies. Left field 652 00:30:48,880 --> 00:30:52,960 Speaker 3: slash center field is how to get offense consistently nine 653 00:30:53,040 --> 00:30:56,280 Speaker 3: in and nine out. And they were hoping Max Kepler 654 00:30:56,840 --> 00:30:59,200 Speaker 3: was gonna be that guy. But Max Kepler also has 655 00:30:59,240 --> 00:31:04,520 Speaker 3: to understand he came up with the Twins. He saw 656 00:31:04,560 --> 00:31:07,320 Speaker 3: guys with the Twins that get money. Just keep playing 657 00:31:07,520 --> 00:31:10,080 Speaker 3: the Phillies. You get money, that's just gonna keep throwing 658 00:31:10,120 --> 00:31:12,320 Speaker 3: you out there. They're gonna try to find somebody else 659 00:31:12,640 --> 00:31:16,040 Speaker 3: that's gonna do it. And maybe that means Rob Thompson 660 00:31:16,120 --> 00:31:18,880 Speaker 3: has to mix and match. It just hasn't It just 661 00:31:19,000 --> 00:31:19,680 Speaker 3: hasn't happened. 662 00:31:20,520 --> 00:31:23,360 Speaker 1: It doesn't have a good track record against left handed pitching. Anyway, 663 00:31:23,840 --> 00:31:27,880 Speaker 1: it happens fast. What where they say, hey, we're plataining you. 664 00:31:28,320 --> 00:31:30,280 Speaker 2: Yes, especially in a big market and a team that 665 00:31:30,360 --> 00:31:32,600 Speaker 2: has other options. Guess what. It happens fast. 666 00:31:32,920 --> 00:31:35,960 Speaker 3: His argument would be a chance, But. 667 00:31:36,000 --> 00:31:37,560 Speaker 4: They let go back and look your track records. So 668 00:31:37,640 --> 00:31:39,120 Speaker 4: we're doing the same thing you've done your whole career. 669 00:31:39,360 --> 00:31:41,160 Speaker 4: It's not good enough. We thought you could help, you'd 670 00:31:41,240 --> 00:31:42,600 Speaker 4: be better, and you're not time to go. 671 00:31:42,720 --> 00:31:44,760 Speaker 1: But he's saying, we just had a conversation before I 672 00:31:44,880 --> 00:31:47,520 Speaker 1: signed where I chose to sign here. Obviously you got money, 673 00:31:47,600 --> 00:31:50,000 Speaker 1: but he's like, you told me I would play every day, 674 00:31:50,360 --> 00:31:52,760 Speaker 1: and I assume that if I can't hit lefties, I'm 675 00:31:52,760 --> 00:31:56,520 Speaker 1: gonna get sat eventually. But five minutes, how. 676 00:31:56,520 --> 00:31:57,520 Speaker 2: Soon happens fast. 677 00:31:57,640 --> 00:32:01,040 Speaker 3: Everybody gets some of Pete or nobody knows who pet 678 00:32:01,160 --> 00:32:05,280 Speaker 3: Or is Canadian Canadian, he said, everybody, and it was 679 00:32:05,320 --> 00:32:09,080 Speaker 3: a great quote. Everybody gets an opportunity. You just don't 680 00:32:09,080 --> 00:32:13,000 Speaker 3: know when your opportunity is. And everybody's opportunity is a 681 00:32:13,120 --> 00:32:16,720 Speaker 3: different size. Max Kepler's track record coming in, he didn't 682 00:32:16,800 --> 00:32:18,600 Speaker 3: hit lefties very well. You know what you have to do. 683 00:32:19,600 --> 00:32:22,080 Speaker 3: You have to smash lefties right away, and starting in 684 00:32:22,160 --> 00:32:25,840 Speaker 3: spring training. That's what I'm saying right away. I'm not 685 00:32:25,920 --> 00:32:28,440 Speaker 3: talking about like even if you're facing number ninety eight 686 00:32:28,800 --> 00:32:31,640 Speaker 3: as a left handed as a left handed batter is 687 00:32:31,640 --> 00:32:34,280 Speaker 3: a left handed pitcher in spring training, they're watching it. 688 00:32:34,560 --> 00:32:39,440 Speaker 3: The first impressions are tough, tough to kill when you 689 00:32:39,520 --> 00:32:42,640 Speaker 3: already have that predisposed idea coming in. This guy doesn't 690 00:32:42,680 --> 00:32:45,440 Speaker 3: hit left as well, okay, so he has to it. 691 00:32:46,160 --> 00:32:48,600 Speaker 3: It's a playoff team. He gets hot a couple games 692 00:32:48,600 --> 00:32:50,840 Speaker 3: against a lefty, he might find himself in there more. 693 00:32:51,200 --> 00:32:54,040 Speaker 3: They're looking for options. They're not saying you're not the option. 694 00:32:54,520 --> 00:32:56,680 Speaker 3: They're saying, we want somebody to step up. 695 00:32:56,760 --> 00:32:58,360 Speaker 1: Yeah, and you're on the phillies. They don't have time 696 00:32:58,480 --> 00:33:13,720 Speaker 1: to experiment that part. Get all right, people, let's slap 697 00:33:14,520 --> 00:33:18,080 Speaker 1: first off, same lit day here on FT. We've got 698 00:33:19,600 --> 00:33:24,040 Speaker 1: Dodger's territory, We've got Baseball America Hot Sheet, We've got 699 00:33:24,120 --> 00:33:28,360 Speaker 1: Trevor May's May Day, and then the FT YouTube channel 700 00:33:28,400 --> 00:33:30,720 Speaker 1: will be hot for our poker live stream with all 701 00:33:30,760 --> 00:33:34,760 Speaker 1: of our friends joining us. There you go, there's Trevor 702 00:33:35,400 --> 00:33:39,880 Speaker 1: who sent me a text this morning with a screenshot 703 00:33:40,080 --> 00:33:42,040 Speaker 1: of the article that we addressed at the top of 704 00:33:42,120 --> 00:33:45,680 Speaker 1: the show. Someone is excited to talk about that particular 705 00:33:45,800 --> 00:33:47,920 Speaker 1: article and he's had more time to digest it than us. 706 00:33:48,440 --> 00:33:53,040 Speaker 1: So it's uh brob Manfred tells all on his strategy 707 00:33:53,160 --> 00:33:56,280 Speaker 1: to dupe the world. And then Hot Sheet also, there 708 00:33:56,320 --> 00:33:58,600 Speaker 1: you go. I won't be on today because we'll be 709 00:33:58,640 --> 00:34:02,360 Speaker 1: handling poker action here, but we're getting close to draft time, 710 00:34:02,520 --> 00:34:06,440 Speaker 1: so Baseball America is all over it. And lastly, with 711 00:34:06,560 --> 00:34:09,440 Speaker 1: our final minute, here as a fan I've been interacting 712 00:34:09,520 --> 00:34:13,080 Speaker 1: with on socials and his family reached out and wanted 713 00:34:13,160 --> 00:34:15,960 Speaker 1: to just give him a shout out. Alex going through 714 00:34:16,000 --> 00:34:18,640 Speaker 1: his tenth cancer treatment, coming up on his birthday on 715 00:34:18,760 --> 00:34:20,560 Speaker 1: July ninth, and just wanted to shout him out and 716 00:34:20,600 --> 00:34:23,760 Speaker 1: give him love. 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