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Speaker 2: All right, Roy, we are back our episodes where we

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Speaker 2: have friends, family, guest in the building. Today we are

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Speaker 2: joined by somebody who was a problem, long overdue conversation.

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Speaker 2: Yeah here today, Uh, somebody who in my in my perspective,

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Speaker 2: is a legend in radio. He's a huge wrestling personality.

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Speaker 2: I think I'm a wrestling personality too, if you ask

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Speaker 2: me some stuff.

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Speaker 3: So I don't think it's the degree of him, well, not.

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Speaker 2: To a degree of this guy, but classic legendary New

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Speaker 2: York radio personality Radio DJ Peter Rosenberg.

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Speaker 3: Claps everywhere else lives the audience, Thank you, yeah, or

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Speaker 3: thanks guys. Pete, I'm gonna call you pistol. Pee take you.

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Speaker 2: You know it's been a minute to somebody, when did

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Speaker 2: they stop? What year did they stop calling you pistol?

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Speaker 3: It comes a periodically, Young Jesus, the jeez you just said,

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Speaker 3: got to drop the pistol. It was like, hey, guys,

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Speaker 3: I gotta kill I don't do those things. I'm a ESPN.

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Speaker 1: You know. I got to see it and we got

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Speaker 1: to you got to drop that. How are you feeling, though, man,

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Speaker 1: It's good to see you. I feel great, man, I

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Speaker 1: feel great. Well, we've been talking for a minute about

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Speaker 1: doing this.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Rory told me he was coming on and he

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Speaker 2: was like, YO, know I'm Pete's coming on if you like,

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Speaker 2: Rory thought that me and you had a thing, and

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Speaker 2: I was just like, yo, I don't have that issue.

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Speaker 4: It was the very few people in hip hop media.

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Speaker 4: I've never had anything.

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Speaker 3: I'm going to yell out the window and somebody would

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Speaker 3: have said, yeah, we have an issue that guy.

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Speaker 4: But I don't think.

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Speaker 3: I don't think of it. See, because sometimes my memory

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Speaker 3: is bad with podcasting for ten years, sometimes I forget

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Speaker 3: about the little TIFFs that happened five years ago that

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Speaker 3: some people hold on to and others are like, I

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Speaker 3: don't even remember.

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Speaker 4: And we have one that you remember.

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Speaker 3: It had something when you gave siphe my number and

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Speaker 3: his number for Syfe to apologize and we were like,

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Speaker 3: we go it was one.

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Speaker 4: Oh, we didn't actually care. Yeah that was siphon mall

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Speaker 4: and it's also nothing.

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Speaker 1: It was nothing, absolutely nothing. It proud to have that

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Speaker 1: you guys be one show. I've never had any personal problems,

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Speaker 1: thank you, listen. I have I'll tell you the truth.

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Speaker 1: Though Maul has said some things clips have hit my

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Speaker 1: timeline about you. No, no, his takes that. The aggressive

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Speaker 1: part of me at times wants to retweet it and

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Speaker 1: say something like flagrant. Why don't you though, because.

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Speaker 4: Somebody like you have this night?

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Speaker 1: Okay, but before somebody like.

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Speaker 2: You I respected because it's never coming from a malicious No,

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Speaker 2: I would have just been on yourself, just related to Drake's.

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Speaker 1: But I like having that either like you, Let's do it.

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Speaker 1: I love that.

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Speaker 4: I appreciate it, so I'll start doing it more from

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Speaker 4: now on.

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Speaker 3: I appreciate that. And we had one one tift because

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Speaker 3: of Drake and Kendrick that separate all of us. Oh yeah, wait,

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Speaker 3: did you and I had It was the night that

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Speaker 3: I guess not like us came out.

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Speaker 4: It was the night not like us.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I was celebrating.

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Speaker 1: It was a dark and gloomy night. By the way,

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Speaker 1: you want to send the part of the conversations that

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Speaker 1: was a bad night, ironically, that's what I said in

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Speaker 1: the tweet.

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Speaker 4: Is that crazy?

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Speaker 1: Though? That night, I literally know everything that happened in

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Speaker 1: that night for me, from like seven pm. I know

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Speaker 1: I remember my initial impression. I remember you and I

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Speaker 1: getting in the argument, although after the argument you did

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Speaker 1: acknowledge you were drunk. When we had this conversation, I

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Speaker 1: was it was my birthday. You were drunk out of

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Speaker 1: the country. I was in Mexico. It was my birthday.

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Speaker 4: I had not looked.

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Speaker 3: Of course, I listened to every record that came out,

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Speaker 3: but I was not looking at the timeline's reactions anything.

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Speaker 3: I opened my phone as we were leaving the bar,

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Speaker 3: and the only thing I saw was Peter Rosenberg says, uh,

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Speaker 3: what is it the colonizer line?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I quoted the line. I said, you're a you're

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Speaker 1: a you're a blank. You're not a blank, You're a colonizer.

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Speaker 1: You're not a colleague, You're a colonizer.

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Speaker 3: And then I retweeted and said, Pete, I think we

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Speaker 1: This? This asshole is drinking, having a party, having a

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Speaker 1: good time. He's one thing and repost it. He's not

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Speaker 1: thinking about the fact that, as you remember very well,

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Speaker 1: the internet was so live at that point in time,

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Speaker 1: those three four days. If you wade in, if you

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Speaker 1: wanted to see a tweet of yours, get three thousand

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Speaker 1: retweets for the first time in your life, just quote

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Speaker 1: something again. So his little line when I went and

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Speaker 1: checked my app replies, it's nine hundred people telling him

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Speaker 1: like yeah Rory telling him to shit the fuck down.

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Speaker 4: Man, Why are you It was just a quote. No

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Speaker 4: one had pointed out that I couldn't quote it. Why

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Speaker 4: did I get you what?

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Speaker 1: I didn't need you?

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Speaker 3: Episode it is? It was nothing, but it was And

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Speaker 3: even because you know where I was at in Mexico.

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Speaker 3: If you're not in that house, you don't have service.

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Speaker 3: And we were out the whole time. So like when

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Speaker 3: that's funny if Peter I said that, yeah, And I

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Speaker 1: And then he sees me just like fighting for your life. Problem,

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Speaker 1: what the hell is going on? He fighting for his life?

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Speaker 1: And I was like, don't put me near because I

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Speaker 1: was the Vlad Knight too. Yeah I meant that later

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Speaker 1: told yeah, don't put me over there. Yeah, it's not

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Speaker 4: I literally thought it was a good line.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, And even though this wasn't the case, the next

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Speaker 3: one app you and Psych talked about it and you

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Speaker 3: both were like, oh, he was just trying to position

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Speaker 1: Yah, yeah I did.

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Speaker 3: He talked about it, and obviously that was not It

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Speaker 3: was really just a fucking joke. I thought it was funny,

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Speaker 3: I don't want to thank you, you know what. I

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Speaker 3: appreciate you letting me have that one.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, but Rory is kind of like in

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Speaker 1: some ways, Rory is sad a bad way, a bad way. No,

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Speaker 1: you're sort of like one of like a young in

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Speaker 1: since he was first on the the Come Up, and

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Speaker 1: I've watched this whole thing, and you know what I'm saying,

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Speaker 1: Like I was on the radio when you were practically

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Speaker 3: I was on the box you got on when I

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Speaker 1: So yeah, no, I had to give them a little

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Speaker 1: pop pow, you know what I mean. But it was hilarious,

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Speaker 2: And for that that whole moment though, because you're on

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Speaker 1: What was that moment though, Like on.

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Speaker 2: The radio side for DJs and personalities and programming directors,

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Speaker 2: like that whole moment last year with Kendrick Drake, Like

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Speaker 1: Like On the radio side, I can only speak to

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Speaker 1: out my weird one specific, most specific situation in the

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Speaker 1: world about ninety seven. For us, it was obviously it

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Speaker 1: was just great because we had content every day, Like

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Speaker 3: I'd say we talk around.

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Speaker 1: Out of our four hour show, we probably talked like

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Speaker 3: So like when you just have something to do, it's fantastic.

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Speaker 1: And it relates to music and the thing that we

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Speaker 1: have that most podcasts don't have is we could play

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Speaker 1: You know, some of the younger DJs you know, were

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Speaker 1: like who like really grew up and Drake is like

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Speaker 1: who are like uptown at hookah bars, like they didn't

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Speaker 3: Give us more drakefre But like Dominicans love Drake. That

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Speaker 4: And by the way, I'm sure they're Dominicans that love Kendors.

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Speaker 3: I just got my new phone that didn't save my

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Speaker 3: iCloud May twenty second, twenty twenty four. This happened on

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Speaker 3: May fourth, twenty twenty five. I wanted to read off

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Speaker 3: the aggressive text messages that Rosenberg sent me. I'm sure

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Speaker 3: I think at one point I was asking, are you

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Speaker 3: being serious right now? Yeah, because I didn't know if

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Speaker 3: the aggression was I think when you said you were.

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Speaker 3: I think that's when once you asked that, I think

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Speaker 3: really not, he's not He's not fighting with me. I

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Speaker 1: So but to answer your question, mal like I don't,

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Speaker 1: I don't really know, Like I don't. It didn't affect

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Speaker 3: But the energy was very different in terms of in

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Speaker 1: I I'm not in the office, you know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 1: I'm in the morning and I'm done. I've officially become

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Speaker 1: that guy. Okay, when I was when I first started

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Speaker 1: in radio, I was doing overnights in DC. The morning

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Speaker 1: show host was Donnie Simpson. Yeah, the legend, the legendary

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Speaker 1: when Donnie he would walk out of the building at

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Speaker 1: at ten oh one am to play his first round

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Speaker 1: of golf of the day.

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Speaker 3: He didn't know a fucking thing that happened. That's now me.

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Speaker 4: I graduated from.

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Speaker 1: Made it all done.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't know me any that's it. I'm officially

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Speaker 3: the morning show guy.

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Speaker 1: Who's checked out, so I know, like what level of

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Speaker 1: You know, we as a station, we've been super supportive

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Speaker 1: of both those artists. Obviously, Drake has his own he's

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Speaker 1: had his own issues with FLEX, he's had his own issues,

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Speaker 1: and me he's had his own issues at EBRO, Like

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Speaker 1: he's had different things at different times. But I think

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Speaker 1: You're why is it mad? Like, I'm not angry at anybody.

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Speaker 1: Well, why do you think that's changed? I think finally,

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Speaker 3: Yeah it has to be. It's the same thing.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's the same thing.

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Speaker 2: Why don't we talk about somebody else thinking about yesterday

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Speaker 3: I'm like, oh, he's locked up. Fave Yo. We don't

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Speaker 2: He's interesting to me for a lot of reasons, but

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Speaker 1: Like I didn't even know he was locked up.

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Speaker 2: where's Faveyo?

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Speaker 1: How you put it?

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Speaker 2: I'm like, oh shit, I forgot he's locked up right now.

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Speaker 2: But he's an artist that was really hot. Like I've

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Speaker 1: Why Why does that happen?

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Speaker 2: Because I don't know many people that can say I

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Speaker 1: Well. Five is complicated for a variety of reasons because

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Speaker 1: he made he did and by bad, Like this is

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00:19:26,720 --> 00:19:28,919
Speaker 1: an awkward one because I personally really like five ya.

437
00:19:30,000 --> 00:19:32,920
Speaker 1: But he did the whole Trump grift and then I

438
00:19:33,000 --> 00:19:35,760
Speaker 1: still went to jail, which is because I assume.

439
00:19:35,480 --> 00:19:38,000
Speaker 3: The whole Trump grift was to not go to jail.

440
00:19:38,000 --> 00:19:38,560
Speaker 1: Oh way he was.

441
00:19:38,640 --> 00:19:40,000
Speaker 3: He was in the park in the Bronx or that

442
00:19:40,119 --> 00:19:43,240
Speaker 3: was somebody else. No, that was chef g And no, no, no,

443
00:19:43,280 --> 00:19:45,560
Speaker 3: he didn't do that. He did a record. Yeah, oh

444
00:19:45,920 --> 00:19:49,359
Speaker 3: I'm record.

445
00:19:49,480 --> 00:19:50,400
Speaker 4: You wanted the craziest shit.

446
00:19:51,040 --> 00:19:53,760
Speaker 1: The five year Trump record is not bad, I mean

447
00:19:55,119 --> 00:19:58,240
Speaker 1: not bad, but it's a straight up Trump is my

448
00:19:58,440 --> 00:20:02,000
Speaker 1: President anthem. Okay, he went, he went all the way, Okay,

449
00:20:02,160 --> 00:20:04,080
Speaker 1: all right. I assumed it was because he was trying

450
00:20:04,080 --> 00:20:07,120
Speaker 1: to work an angle of some sort of a pardon something. Yeah,

451
00:20:07,160 --> 00:20:08,440
Speaker 1: and then he ended up getting locked up, and I

452
00:20:08,480 --> 00:20:09,800
Speaker 1: didn't even really know what happened. I don't even know

453
00:20:09,840 --> 00:20:12,000
Speaker 1: what he's locked that for. I don't either for five

454
00:20:12,080 --> 00:20:15,840
Speaker 1: He is interesting also because when he came out he

455
00:20:16,000 --> 00:20:19,760
Speaker 1: was older, a little bit older. Yeah right like he was, Yeah,

456
00:20:19,880 --> 00:20:21,320
Speaker 1: like he was, but he got he got on a

457
00:20:21,400 --> 00:20:25,480
Speaker 1: little bit later after Pop Smoked passed. But he really

458
00:20:25,560 --> 00:20:28,800
Speaker 1: did have good records and has charisma like he could rap.

459
00:20:28,880 --> 00:20:32,360
Speaker 1: He's got charisma, he hasn't. His age actually was an advantage.

460
00:20:32,359 --> 00:20:34,800
Speaker 1: He carried himself like someone wh knew what he was doing. Yeah,

461
00:20:35,000 --> 00:20:37,800
Speaker 1: I don't know. I know he did Summer Jam like

462
00:20:37,880 --> 00:20:41,480
Speaker 1: we he got support like New York definitely was like hey, Louie,

463
00:20:41,880 --> 00:20:44,240
Speaker 1: and then I can't quite put a finger on what

464
00:20:44,280 --> 00:20:44,679
Speaker 1: happened there.

465
00:20:45,200 --> 00:20:47,840
Speaker 3: He had arguably one of the best features on Donda.

466
00:20:48,000 --> 00:20:51,280
Speaker 3: I think he caught the Kanye stimulus at the wrong time,

467
00:20:51,840 --> 00:20:54,800
Speaker 3: like the last he got the last moment of Donda,

468
00:20:55,040 --> 00:20:57,120
Speaker 3: there was still people like eh, but it was Kanye

469
00:20:57,200 --> 00:20:58,960
Speaker 3: was still Kanye when Donna came out, and he in

470
00:20:59,040 --> 00:21:01,880
Speaker 3: my opinion, I mean, obviously the three Stacks verse didn't

471
00:21:01,880 --> 00:21:04,239
Speaker 3: actually make the real album. You could say Favio had

472
00:21:05,119 --> 00:21:06,800
Speaker 3: one of the best verses, which is the crazy sense

473
00:21:06,840 --> 00:21:09,239
Speaker 3: is to say it's either Favio or Jay Electronica who

474
00:21:09,280 --> 00:21:12,440
Speaker 3: had the best verses on that. That album. He went

475
00:21:12,520 --> 00:21:14,680
Speaker 3: crazy on that, and I think he rode the Kanye

476
00:21:14,760 --> 00:21:16,760
Speaker 3: wave because then they got the Alicia Keys record YEP,

477
00:21:17,080 --> 00:21:19,359
Speaker 3: and it was just like then, they're putting all your

478
00:21:19,440 --> 00:21:22,760
Speaker 3: eggs in the Kanye basket and he was all over

479
00:21:22,800 --> 00:21:24,440
Speaker 3: done it too. That didn't come out like it felt

480
00:21:24,440 --> 00:21:27,040
Speaker 3: like he dedicated his time to Kanye at a time

481
00:21:27,080 --> 00:21:29,560
Speaker 3: he shouldn't have done that. Yes, Like that's interesting. You

482
00:21:29,640 --> 00:21:33,200
Speaker 3: should have just stayed in New York and kept writing

483
00:21:33,400 --> 00:21:35,840
Speaker 3: the New York way that you had because everyone loved.

484
00:21:35,720 --> 00:21:38,240
Speaker 1: Favia because the feature on the album was so good.

485
00:21:38,520 --> 00:21:40,320
Speaker 1: He went that was the thing I played off of

486
00:21:40,400 --> 00:21:43,440
Speaker 1: the album the most. And I love jail too. But

487
00:21:43,560 --> 00:21:46,800
Speaker 1: then Kanye went even because he was already out of

488
00:21:46,840 --> 00:21:50,520
Speaker 1: his gourd, but he clearly went levels beyond after Donda

489
00:21:50,720 --> 00:21:52,760
Speaker 1: and he was like that was kind of where he

490
00:21:52,880 --> 00:21:56,359
Speaker 1: had staked his yeah flag, and it's like this, this

491
00:21:56,560 --> 00:21:57,240
Speaker 1: is not helpful.

492
00:21:57,359 --> 00:21:59,360
Speaker 3: It's not doing what it should have done. Yeah. Yeah,

493
00:21:59,440 --> 00:22:01,879
Speaker 3: And who knows in people's personal lives too, because like, obviously,

494
00:22:02,040 --> 00:22:03,639
Speaker 3: again I don't know that he went to jail, but

495
00:22:04,000 --> 00:22:06,000
Speaker 3: clearly something was happening behind the scenes.

496
00:22:06,160 --> 00:22:07,280
Speaker 1: So Fave is in jail.

497
00:22:07,320 --> 00:22:10,080
Speaker 2: Dude to pleading guilty to a terroristic threats charge stemming

498
00:22:10,119 --> 00:22:12,480
Speaker 2: from an incident that occurred on New Year's Day in

499
00:22:12,720 --> 00:22:15,639
Speaker 2: Edgewater of New Jersey. The incident involved a dispute over parking.

500
00:22:15,880 --> 00:22:17,760
Speaker 2: A woman claims she asked the rapper to help jump

501
00:22:17,800 --> 00:22:20,480
Speaker 2: start her car. Faver allegedly pulled a gun on her

502
00:22:20,560 --> 00:22:22,720
Speaker 2: and threatened her, stating, if I see you parking in

503
00:22:22,760 --> 00:22:24,680
Speaker 2: front of this building again, there's going to be a

504
00:22:24,880 --> 00:22:25,720
Speaker 2: fucking problem.

505
00:22:27,240 --> 00:22:29,280
Speaker 1: That's one of those car or that is one of

506
00:22:29,359 --> 00:22:33,080
Speaker 1: those stories where the description does not feel complete, like

507
00:22:33,240 --> 00:22:38,280
Speaker 1: there is not a single missing piece here. That's one

508
00:22:38,320 --> 00:22:40,239
Speaker 1: of them. Was one of those times where someone goes, hey,

509
00:22:40,240 --> 00:22:41,479
Speaker 1: can you jump my car? And you pull a gun

510
00:22:41,520 --> 00:22:42,199
Speaker 1: out inside, never to.

511
00:22:42,160 --> 00:22:42,680
Speaker 3: See her again.

512
00:22:42,840 --> 00:22:44,359
Speaker 1: No, you're in the middle of trying to jump the car,

513
00:22:45,400 --> 00:22:45,960
Speaker 1: so he always.

514
00:22:46,000 --> 00:22:48,360
Speaker 2: Charges include unlawful possession of a weapon and in aggravated

515
00:22:48,359 --> 00:22:50,800
Speaker 2: assault in addition to terroristic threats. As part of a

516
00:22:50,880 --> 00:22:52,960
Speaker 2: plea deal, he pleaded guilty to the terroristic threats charge.

517
00:22:53,160 --> 00:22:55,159
Speaker 2: The other charges are expected to be dropped. He has

518
00:22:55,200 --> 00:22:58,159
Speaker 2: been incarcerated since January and to wait since the thing

519
00:22:58,240 --> 00:23:00,760
Speaker 2: schedule for August second, twenty twenty five.

520
00:23:01,040 --> 00:23:02,919
Speaker 1: Wait, so he's in jail and still hasn't been sensed.

521
00:23:03,160 --> 00:23:05,399
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, that's why he's sitting in jail. Yo, bro,

522
00:23:05,720 --> 00:23:08,200
Speaker 1: If if Kevin Gates was there, none of this would happen.

523
00:23:08,560 --> 00:23:11,720
Speaker 2: The attorney hosts for a probationary sentence, potentially allowing earlier

524
00:23:11,800 --> 00:23:13,240
Speaker 2: release considering the time.

525
00:23:13,359 --> 00:23:15,240
Speaker 3: Sir. Yeah, I just thought that that was weird.

526
00:23:15,400 --> 00:23:17,680
Speaker 2: An artist that, you know, had all of the momentum,

527
00:23:17,720 --> 00:23:19,360
Speaker 2: all of the steam in the city at one time,

528
00:23:19,520 --> 00:23:21,680
Speaker 2: records with some of the biggest artists in the world,

529
00:23:21,760 --> 00:23:23,960
Speaker 2: and then now he's been arrested since the beginning of

530
00:23:24,000 --> 00:23:25,439
Speaker 2: the year and we don't even talk about him.

531
00:23:25,440 --> 00:23:26,440
Speaker 3: I just thought that was we No, it is.

532
00:23:26,560 --> 00:23:26,960
Speaker 4: I agree.

533
00:23:27,000 --> 00:23:28,280
Speaker 1: I think the five ill story is a bit weird.

534
00:23:28,480 --> 00:23:29,920
Speaker 1: So I can't quite put a finger on that, But

535
00:23:29,960 --> 00:23:31,960
Speaker 1: I also wouldn't write it off yet either. Sometimes that

536
00:23:32,040 --> 00:23:33,320
Speaker 1: back from jail shit, you know what I mean, that

537
00:23:33,359 --> 00:23:34,320
Speaker 1: can be the set off you need.

538
00:23:34,400 --> 00:23:35,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, just a little time to sit down and

539
00:23:35,920 --> 00:23:36,720
Speaker 3: look at things.

540
00:23:36,560 --> 00:23:39,200
Speaker 1: And you go, you know what's avoid that that's if

541
00:23:39,240 --> 00:23:42,720
Speaker 1: you take that story of face value, like something just

542
00:23:42,800 --> 00:23:45,440
Speaker 1: went left with an actual stranger. Yeah, that is the

543
00:23:45,560 --> 00:23:49,919
Speaker 1: worst that that is such a like there are stupid situations,

544
00:23:49,960 --> 00:23:50,879
Speaker 1: but that sounds horrible.

545
00:23:50,960 --> 00:23:52,440
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's the top of the list. That's the top

546
00:23:52,480 --> 00:23:54,640
Speaker 3: of the list. I mean, if he took up maybe

547
00:23:54,640 --> 00:23:57,040
Speaker 3: his lawyer's telling him, like, come sentencing, you'll get time, serve,

548
00:23:57,440 --> 00:23:59,479
Speaker 3: Just sit till August and maybe it'll be over.

549
00:24:00,080 --> 00:24:01,600
Speaker 2: That's tough telling us why to just sit down and

550
00:24:01,720 --> 00:24:05,160
Speaker 2: jail till August in January. That the artist like him

551
00:24:05,160 --> 00:24:07,000
Speaker 2: who has all this mom manum, don't tell me to

552
00:24:07,080 --> 00:24:07,960
Speaker 2: do the weekend in jail.

553
00:24:08,119 --> 00:24:09,640
Speaker 1: So well, yeah, that's what I'm saying.

554
00:24:09,640 --> 00:24:12,160
Speaker 3: It's just that's just I'm not trying to downplay, right, Yeah,

555
00:24:12,640 --> 00:24:15,920
Speaker 3: eight months in prison, I mean shit Feedti Fetti is

556
00:24:15,960 --> 00:24:18,639
Speaker 3: one of those two that I am very confident that

557
00:24:18,720 --> 00:24:21,040
Speaker 3: when he gets out. Who's to say Vetti can't have

558
00:24:21,040 --> 00:24:24,639
Speaker 3: another run? Tell me that the the music hasn't changed

559
00:24:24,720 --> 00:24:26,359
Speaker 3: that much that Fetti couldn't adapt to it.

560
00:24:27,080 --> 00:24:29,800
Speaker 1: That is an interesting one because Fetti's records sound like

561
00:24:29,880 --> 00:24:31,320
Speaker 1: a million years ago.

562
00:24:32,200 --> 00:24:33,960
Speaker 4: But I'm not saying he couldn't ten years ago.

563
00:24:34,160 --> 00:24:36,880
Speaker 1: That was that was summer. When you hear that ship

564
00:24:37,000 --> 00:24:39,960
Speaker 1: right now, it feels like you are in a time work.

565
00:24:40,040 --> 00:24:41,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's so much as.

566
00:24:41,240 --> 00:24:43,680
Speaker 1: It's because he owned that so much sound so much.

567
00:24:43,800 --> 00:24:47,280
Speaker 1: But his melodic flow is still the same.

568
00:24:47,359 --> 00:24:48,600
Speaker 4: Now, I get it.

569
00:24:48,680 --> 00:24:51,760
Speaker 1: But like the even long before he went away, he

570
00:24:51,920 --> 00:24:54,120
Speaker 1: already wasn't doing anything. I'm not trying.

571
00:24:54,440 --> 00:24:55,159
Speaker 3: I don't want to come to.

572
00:24:55,200 --> 00:24:56,840
Speaker 4: Situation, but no, no, no.

573
00:24:57,040 --> 00:24:58,760
Speaker 3: For a long that was that was a lot of

574
00:24:58,800 --> 00:25:02,280
Speaker 3: politics too, with which he spoke about briefly of just

575
00:25:02,359 --> 00:25:04,439
Speaker 3: that run of like when you have fucking ten records

576
00:25:04,480 --> 00:25:07,040
Speaker 3: on Billboard and all right, can we slow down for

577
00:25:07,040 --> 00:25:10,000
Speaker 3: a second to spread these out and work my actual

578
00:25:10,080 --> 00:25:12,680
Speaker 3: records and album we had fifteen hits from them, and

579
00:25:12,720 --> 00:25:14,160
Speaker 3: then they were like, here's the albums, Like now we've

580
00:25:14,200 --> 00:25:17,840
Speaker 3: heard it everything. I have it all and that's just

581
00:25:18,080 --> 00:25:20,440
Speaker 3: a bad strategy. But some records just don't.

582
00:25:20,800 --> 00:25:21,440
Speaker 4: It is weird.

583
00:25:21,560 --> 00:25:24,600
Speaker 1: The line of really good song at a time and

584
00:25:24,720 --> 00:25:26,960
Speaker 1: then one that last the test of time, for me,

585
00:25:27,680 --> 00:25:32,400
Speaker 1: is fascinating to bring up Mall's favorite person in the world.

586
00:25:34,080 --> 00:25:38,800
Speaker 1: Best I Ever Had to me sounds like when you

587
00:25:38,920 --> 00:25:42,560
Speaker 1: hear it, you're like, this feels like a throwback, an intentional, fun,

588
00:25:42,760 --> 00:25:45,199
Speaker 1: goofy throwback, not like you really want to rock out

589
00:25:45,200 --> 00:25:48,560
Speaker 1: and hear Best I Ever Had? You could hear find

590
00:25:48,600 --> 00:25:52,000
Speaker 1: Your Love or started from the bottom a minute later,

591
00:25:52,359 --> 00:25:53,800
Speaker 1: and those songs sound like, nah.

592
00:25:53,720 --> 00:25:55,560
Speaker 4: Play it right now. It's just funny.

593
00:25:56,000 --> 00:25:57,840
Speaker 3: I think Best I Ever Had has gone past that.

594
00:25:57,960 --> 00:26:02,120
Speaker 3: I think finds Your Love speaks specifically to the ataways

595
00:26:02,119 --> 00:26:04,440
Speaker 3: and heartbreaks down that sounds like a dated hit to me,

596
00:26:04,720 --> 00:26:07,240
Speaker 3: not a bad way, but it represents that time that

597
00:26:07,280 --> 00:26:09,280
Speaker 3: would bring me to nine Best I Ever had and

598
00:26:09,320 --> 00:26:10,040
Speaker 3: started from the bottom.

599
00:26:10,040 --> 00:26:12,000
Speaker 1: I feel like those could play start from the bottom.

600
00:26:12,040 --> 00:26:13,680
Speaker 1: I think it is for any time my best I

601
00:26:13,760 --> 00:26:15,840
Speaker 1: Ever had. There is something about the drums, There's something

602
00:26:15,880 --> 00:26:18,400
Speaker 1: about the mix of it his There's just something about

603
00:26:18,400 --> 00:26:19,000
Speaker 1: that song to me that.

604
00:26:19,040 --> 00:26:20,400
Speaker 3: Sounds like it's a time.

605
00:26:21,840 --> 00:26:24,000
Speaker 1: It's not like but again and this we actually we've

606
00:26:24,080 --> 00:26:27,280
Speaker 1: had this great conversation plenty of times, and this is

607
00:26:27,359 --> 00:26:28,360
Speaker 1: our age gap there.

608
00:26:29,280 --> 00:26:31,359
Speaker 3: I was a freshman in college when best Ever had

609
00:26:31,400 --> 00:26:35,119
Speaker 3: came out. So, yes, the drums are not mixed. It's

610
00:26:35,160 --> 00:26:38,400
Speaker 3: boy wondered finding a boom bab shit that still resonates

611
00:26:38,480 --> 00:26:40,920
Speaker 3: with me. I look past the faults of what the

612
00:26:41,000 --> 00:26:43,480
Speaker 3: mixing would be because it's a time, it's timeless because

613
00:26:43,480 --> 00:26:45,840
Speaker 3: I was there. That's the difference I think with Best

614
00:26:45,840 --> 00:26:48,239
Speaker 3: I Ever had between our age gap, which I think

615
00:26:48,280 --> 00:26:49,399
Speaker 3: plenty of people have with records.

616
00:26:49,520 --> 00:26:51,600
Speaker 1: It doesn't make you go like to wow, that's like

617
00:26:51,840 --> 00:26:54,680
Speaker 1: freshman year of college. It feels like, yeah, it should

618
00:26:54,680 --> 00:26:55,080
Speaker 1: stay there.

619
00:26:55,960 --> 00:26:59,119
Speaker 3: No, I like that time, like you don't have the

620
00:26:59,200 --> 00:27:01,080
Speaker 3: shit that you you know what else sounds growing up

621
00:27:01,160 --> 00:27:03,840
Speaker 3: or like in college or a specific time that just

622
00:27:03,920 --> 00:27:07,320
Speaker 3: resonates with you for sure, But of course there's can't

623
00:27:07,359 --> 00:27:09,320
Speaker 3: tell me nothing's like those are just for the rest

624
00:27:09,359 --> 00:27:12,080
Speaker 3: of your life. That's just correct. But you can still

625
00:27:12,080 --> 00:27:14,879
Speaker 3: have a timeless record that is from a moment in

626
00:27:15,000 --> 00:27:17,080
Speaker 3: time that you liked. But Drake, it's weird.

627
00:27:17,280 --> 00:27:19,920
Speaker 1: Drake to me, has a lot of timeless records, but

628
00:27:20,040 --> 00:27:25,480
Speaker 1: they're a handful of them from the beginning successful best

629
00:27:25,560 --> 00:27:26,160
Speaker 1: I ever had.

630
00:27:26,680 --> 00:27:30,879
Speaker 4: I'm going in. Yeah, they all sound like for whatever reason, it's.

631
00:27:30,760 --> 00:27:34,159
Speaker 3: They sound stay there, they saw it, get I get it.

632
00:27:34,840 --> 00:27:36,919
Speaker 4: And then after that he developed a bit and everything

633
00:27:37,000 --> 00:27:37,720
Speaker 4: kind of last to me.

634
00:27:38,280 --> 00:27:41,960
Speaker 3: But it's again, it's not a Drake thing. Maybe it's

635
00:27:41,960 --> 00:27:44,280
Speaker 3: a blog era thing that I have my ears so

636
00:27:44,520 --> 00:27:48,119
Speaker 3: trained to the blog era that absolute shitty mixes from

637
00:27:48,160 --> 00:27:51,280
Speaker 3: that time because it's a part of my life. I ignore,

638
00:27:51,840 --> 00:27:56,600
Speaker 3: like put in Krits first mixtape. They mastered that negatively,

639
00:27:56,760 --> 00:27:59,400
Speaker 3: like I have my radio doesn't even go that high

640
00:27:59,520 --> 00:28:01,800
Speaker 3: of how much that should play. But it's still is

641
00:28:01,920 --> 00:28:04,360
Speaker 3: timeless to me, right, But it's it was a shitty time.

642
00:28:04,359 --> 00:28:08,000
Speaker 3: People were just this big crite. People were literally recording

643
00:28:08,040 --> 00:28:13,200
Speaker 3: and putting it out like that was how bad Cushion

644
00:28:13,240 --> 00:28:16,480
Speaker 3: OJ doesn't sound polished if you go back to it.

645
00:28:16,640 --> 00:28:18,439
Speaker 3: Of course they've remastered it and put it on DSPs.

646
00:28:18,480 --> 00:28:20,560
Speaker 3: But Gold is the one you have downloaded on your computer.

647
00:28:21,000 --> 00:28:22,880
Speaker 3: It's gonna sound like best I ever had. Yeah, yeah,

648
00:28:22,880 --> 00:28:26,000
Speaker 3: I've probably never listened to Kush You've never listened really?

649
00:28:26,119 --> 00:28:29,480
Speaker 3: Probably not? How probably not Gold?

650
00:28:29,480 --> 00:28:32,400
Speaker 1: List all right, listen to OD the one that you downloaded,

651
00:28:33,119 --> 00:28:36,920
Speaker 1: and it'll sound like ass I sure, sure, but it's

652
00:28:36,920 --> 00:28:41,000
Speaker 1: still incredible music, like even somee section eighty our ears

653
00:28:41,040 --> 00:28:42,560
Speaker 1: got crazy because technology got so good.

654
00:28:42,560 --> 00:28:44,080
Speaker 3: It's so easy to mix and master a record now.

655
00:28:44,120 --> 00:28:45,840
Speaker 1: But I'm not even with the best. I'm not even

656
00:28:45,920 --> 00:28:47,720
Speaker 1: just talking about the mix. There's just something about it

657
00:28:47,840 --> 00:28:48,640
Speaker 1: that sound music.

658
00:28:48,800 --> 00:28:52,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, I get that sloppy boombab record I see, but no,

659
00:28:52,840 --> 00:28:54,080
Speaker 3: but it's it's just it's just more.

660
00:28:54,120 --> 00:28:56,360
Speaker 4: Maybe it's just about Drake's development, Like maybe it's the

661
00:28:56,400 --> 00:28:58,720
Speaker 4: fact that he became so big that like.

662
00:28:58,880 --> 00:29:01,920
Speaker 2: That was like just a different everything changed about his voice,

663
00:29:01,960 --> 00:29:05,479
Speaker 2: the way he raps, his ad lives the music. Literally,

664
00:29:05,520 --> 00:29:08,600
Speaker 2: if you listen to his first mixtapes or So Far

665
00:29:08,720 --> 00:29:11,960
Speaker 2: Gone and go to what he just put out last year.

666
00:29:12,680 --> 00:29:15,680
Speaker 2: It's a It sounds like a completely different completely.

667
00:29:15,560 --> 00:29:18,720
Speaker 3: This is a college dropout to Donda. Doesn't even sound

668
00:29:18,760 --> 00:29:22,719
Speaker 3: like the same vocal tone, Like they're different people. Bro.

669
00:29:22,800 --> 00:29:25,200
Speaker 1: If I have to have another argument with someone saying

670
00:29:25,240 --> 00:29:29,080
Speaker 1: that Donda and even Donda two I've had thrown at

671
00:29:29,120 --> 00:29:31,920
Speaker 1: me are classic albums, I'm gonna fucking lose money.

672
00:29:32,280 --> 00:29:34,440
Speaker 3: I'm not here to say that I enjoyed Donna. Don't

673
00:29:34,440 --> 00:29:35,440
Speaker 3: get me wrong. Joints.

674
00:29:35,600 --> 00:29:38,800
Speaker 4: Yeah, a classic, No, you have to. Here's here's the

675
00:29:38,880 --> 00:29:39,480
Speaker 4: there's the fact.

676
00:29:40,040 --> 00:29:42,320
Speaker 1: When you decide to put out your album with twenty

677
00:29:42,400 --> 00:29:46,960
Speaker 1: two fucking songs, you're right, No, the bad songs are

678
00:29:47,240 --> 00:29:49,960
Speaker 1: negative on your album. Absolutely, you're not allowed to put

679
00:29:50,000 --> 00:29:51,880
Speaker 1: out twenty two songs twelve on there were bangers and

680
00:29:51,920 --> 00:29:52,680
Speaker 1: say you have a classic.

681
00:29:52,760 --> 00:29:55,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, no, you could have if you subtracted ten, if

682
00:29:55,040 --> 00:29:55,840
Speaker 3: you took seven.

683
00:29:55,640 --> 00:29:58,400
Speaker 1: Of those, but you didn't, right, So like that that

684
00:29:58,600 --> 00:30:00,720
Speaker 1: annoys the shit out of me. Being like keV I've

685
00:30:00,800 --> 00:30:02,960
Speaker 1: argued about this so many times because he fucking loves Donda.

686
00:30:03,160 --> 00:30:05,400
Speaker 1: I don't think he calls a classic. But like when

687
00:30:05,440 --> 00:30:08,960
Speaker 1: I say, basically, Kanye has completely fallen off and turned

688
00:30:08,960 --> 00:30:11,520
Speaker 1: to ship. He and other people will come come to

689
00:30:11,640 --> 00:30:13,880
Speaker 1: me with Donda, and I'm like, when you're comparing that

690
00:30:14,000 --> 00:30:16,840
Speaker 1: to the rest of his catalog, Donda's a brick.

691
00:30:17,760 --> 00:30:19,280
Speaker 3: I know it has a few great songs on it.

692
00:30:19,640 --> 00:30:22,160
Speaker 1: We're talking about a guy who previously, I would have

693
00:30:22,320 --> 00:30:26,280
Speaker 1: argued had the highest percentage of great songs on albums

694
00:30:26,520 --> 00:30:28,000
Speaker 1: of maybe anyone ever.

695
00:30:28,200 --> 00:30:30,040
Speaker 3: One of the greatest discographies.

696
00:30:29,480 --> 00:30:34,880
Speaker 1: Ever is even through Life of Pablo, which where he's

697
00:30:34,960 --> 00:30:36,040
Speaker 1: That's when he started to split.

698
00:30:36,120 --> 00:30:38,000
Speaker 3: He started experience you guys know you guys know my

699
00:30:38,080 --> 00:30:38,480
Speaker 3: theory on this.

700
00:30:38,840 --> 00:30:41,600
Speaker 1: No, I have a really important theory on Kanye the

701
00:30:41,800 --> 00:30:44,560
Speaker 1: moment life of about life of pop. He would suggest

702
00:30:44,560 --> 00:30:52,360
Speaker 1: your people your further proving when my when my uncle

703
00:30:52,400 --> 00:30:54,920
Speaker 1: and I were together at my synagogue disgusting.

704
00:30:54,480 --> 00:30:57,040
Speaker 3: Whether or not we should make this a hit or not.

705
00:30:58,280 --> 00:30:58,600
Speaker 1: I was.

706
00:31:00,400 --> 00:31:02,360
Speaker 3: Like, why is not a classic?

707
00:31:02,400 --> 00:31:04,600
Speaker 1: I want to get down to it, Like uncle schloo,

708
00:31:05,800 --> 00:31:11,000
Speaker 1: I think we should let this black artist said, I said, No,

709
00:31:11,200 --> 00:31:13,880
Speaker 1: I like him. No, I would say, this is the

710
00:31:13,960 --> 00:31:15,840
Speaker 1: moment in Life of Pablo. I mean, we remember the

711
00:31:15,880 --> 00:31:18,480
Speaker 1: whole role out was a fucking mess. The album kept changing.

712
00:31:18,720 --> 00:31:19,920
Speaker 1: But no, no, here's if you.

713
00:31:19,960 --> 00:31:23,000
Speaker 3: Want to pinpoint the beginning of when Kanye is losing

714
00:31:23,080 --> 00:31:28,600
Speaker 3: his ship. It is the line and she just bleached

715
00:31:28,600 --> 00:31:29,200
Speaker 3: her asshole.

716
00:31:30,200 --> 00:31:37,960
Speaker 1: Okay, that song is an iconic, forever piece of glorious music.

717
00:31:39,280 --> 00:31:42,200
Speaker 1: And in that bar when you decided to start the

718
00:31:42,360 --> 00:31:45,719
Speaker 1: song with I just fucked a model, she just bleached

719
00:31:45,800 --> 00:31:49,200
Speaker 1: her asshole, and you thought that was a good decision

720
00:31:49,280 --> 00:31:52,040
Speaker 1: to do with a song that sounds that he lost

721
00:31:52,560 --> 00:31:56,000
Speaker 1: you now lost. Honestly, it's I'm joking, but I'm not

722
00:31:56,600 --> 00:31:59,920
Speaker 1: like you've now lost your edge of like what makes

723
00:32:00,120 --> 00:32:03,480
Speaker 1: a song able to live forever? Because now every grown

724
00:32:03,520 --> 00:32:05,440
Speaker 1: up and Rory's gonna we're both gonna have to deal

725
00:32:05,480 --> 00:32:07,040
Speaker 1: with this soon as our babies get older.

726
00:32:07,160 --> 00:32:07,360
Speaker 3: Yeah.

727
00:32:07,720 --> 00:32:09,880
Speaker 4: Now, I can't play that in the car right now.

728
00:32:09,960 --> 00:32:13,880
Speaker 1: It's like an immediate You can't even explain to someone.

729
00:32:14,200 --> 00:32:15,440
Speaker 3: I don't want my mom to hear it.

730
00:32:15,480 --> 00:32:17,120
Speaker 4: I don't want my daughter to hear it. I don't

731
00:32:17,160 --> 00:32:19,080
Speaker 4: want my cousin to hear You don't want anyone to

732
00:32:19,160 --> 00:32:20,680
Speaker 4: hear that. Lie, what are you doing?

733
00:32:21,760 --> 00:32:25,280
Speaker 3: Please find this footage listeners. I think it was on

734
00:32:25,320 --> 00:32:26,680
Speaker 3: the old Potter, it might have been on this one.

735
00:32:27,160 --> 00:32:29,200
Speaker 3: I had the same thing. I was riding with my

736
00:32:29,360 --> 00:32:32,640
Speaker 3: mom in the car and the first record, Ultra Light Beams,

737
00:32:32,640 --> 00:32:38,680
Speaker 3: beautiful my mom. My mother's Catholic. Don't tell anyone, Okay, fucky,

738
00:32:38,840 --> 00:32:42,240
Speaker 3: it's funny at me. Good. We're riding and she loved

739
00:32:42,280 --> 00:32:44,480
Speaker 3: that first record, even like the chance want and not

740
00:32:44,560 --> 00:32:47,640
Speaker 3: say my mom would be the gauge of anything Kanye related.

741
00:32:47,960 --> 00:32:50,920
Speaker 3: But gets to the second record, she's on board all

742
00:32:51,000 --> 00:32:53,480
Speaker 3: the way, and then when it gets to that fucking part,

743
00:32:53,600 --> 00:32:57,440
Speaker 3: my mom was like, why would someone do that? I said,

744
00:32:57,480 --> 00:33:00,040
Speaker 3: please their asshole? She said no, why would you say.

745
00:32:59,840 --> 00:33:03,400
Speaker 1: That, not do it?

746
00:33:03,480 --> 00:33:03,520
Speaker 2: No?

747
00:33:03,560 --> 00:33:05,720
Speaker 3: No, she was like, someone would do it?

748
00:33:05,960 --> 00:33:08,200
Speaker 1: Why would you say they did it? Why would you

749
00:33:08,320 --> 00:33:08,760
Speaker 1: say they did?

750
00:33:08,960 --> 00:33:11,880
Speaker 3: To get my mom even into certain hip hop is

751
00:33:12,320 --> 00:33:16,240
Speaker 3: a stretch again, is nothing that matters, But you want

752
00:33:16,240 --> 00:33:18,480
Speaker 3: to play the crapper shitdn't be trying to do shit

753
00:33:18,560 --> 00:33:20,680
Speaker 3: for my mom. But we were just in the car

754
00:33:21,120 --> 00:33:23,840
Speaker 3: and she was vibe and I was like, why yeah,

755
00:33:24,120 --> 00:33:26,560
Speaker 3: one for one with Ultra Light Beings, why would someone

756
00:33:26,720 --> 00:33:29,040
Speaker 3: say that it ruined the whole song?

757
00:33:29,400 --> 00:33:32,480
Speaker 1: The start of that album, those two records is such

758
00:33:32,520 --> 00:33:35,320
Speaker 1: a beautiful and incredible start to the album. And right

759
00:33:35,360 --> 00:33:38,160
Speaker 1: when that line gets hit, I remember going like hmm,

760
00:33:39,440 --> 00:33:41,360
Speaker 1: no one was around to say, hey.

761
00:33:41,280 --> 00:33:42,600
Speaker 3: Bro, we should take that out.

762
00:33:42,640 --> 00:33:45,120
Speaker 1: And like, obviously Metro's young, you know who's going to

763
00:33:45,160 --> 00:33:46,160
Speaker 1: be the person who says.

764
00:33:46,080 --> 00:33:48,440
Speaker 2: And not only that, not only is Metro young, Pete,

765
00:33:48,480 --> 00:33:50,800
Speaker 2: but there's a thing. You know, you're in the studio

766
00:33:50,920 --> 00:33:53,800
Speaker 2: with Kanye, you're kind of just like, I feel like

767
00:33:53,920 --> 00:33:56,440
Speaker 2: he knows way more than I ever will I can

768
00:33:56,520 --> 00:33:59,680
Speaker 2: be a great producer. This is still Kanye West. Metro's

769
00:33:59,720 --> 00:34:02,440
Speaker 2: probably like he no more than me. He got way

770
00:34:02,480 --> 00:34:05,360
Speaker 2: more than I do. I'm not even though he probably

771
00:34:05,520 --> 00:34:05,720
Speaker 2: was like.

772
00:34:05,760 --> 00:34:06,920
Speaker 3: A why would he say that?

773
00:34:07,200 --> 00:34:09,440
Speaker 1: He's not gonna say that Kanye, and no one else

774
00:34:09,480 --> 00:34:12,200
Speaker 1: around him is going to, I mean respect respectfully to

775
00:34:12,360 --> 00:34:16,080
Speaker 1: eighty eight Keys or whoever else around. No one's giving

776
00:34:16,160 --> 00:34:19,080
Speaker 1: him that bit of advice. And it was a small thing.

777
00:34:19,680 --> 00:34:23,239
Speaker 1: But then, like as the album went on, Life of

778
00:34:23,320 --> 00:34:25,719
Speaker 1: Pablo then starts to fall apart at points it has

779
00:34:26,040 --> 00:34:26,920
Speaker 1: then its back up.

780
00:34:26,960 --> 00:34:29,200
Speaker 3: It HiT's the middle. It's the three records in the middle,

781
00:34:29,400 --> 00:34:31,520
Speaker 3: the one that Tyler wrapped on the freestyle for shit.

782
00:34:31,640 --> 00:34:34,120
Speaker 3: It's like those three records where it gets odd and

783
00:34:34,200 --> 00:34:36,400
Speaker 3: then it comes right back to Chris Brown and you're like,

784
00:34:36,600 --> 00:34:38,000
Speaker 3: that's the greatest thing I've ever heard Brown.

785
00:34:38,200 --> 00:34:41,480
Speaker 1: You get to h around is in the first half. Yeah, it's,

786
00:34:41,680 --> 00:34:44,920
Speaker 1: it's it's but that's the beginning of him starting to slip.

787
00:34:45,080 --> 00:34:47,680
Speaker 3: And those lines were there. He always just packaged it

788
00:34:47,760 --> 00:34:50,319
Speaker 3: around dope shit, Like somebody should have tapped Kanye before

789
00:34:50,360 --> 00:34:53,480
Speaker 3: when he said, uh, dripping swag sauce, you dripping swagu

790
00:34:54,000 --> 00:34:54,840
Speaker 3: somebody should have been like.

791
00:34:54,880 --> 00:34:56,880
Speaker 4: Yeah, come on, come no, it's a nasty bar.

792
00:34:57,200 --> 00:35:00,040
Speaker 3: He's always had weird, cheesy lines his whole career, but

793
00:35:00,120 --> 00:35:02,920
Speaker 3: they were always around amazing ship. So it's like, all right, whatever, but.

794
00:35:02,960 --> 00:35:04,759
Speaker 1: There's a certain line that you cross, and when you

795
00:35:04,960 --> 00:35:07,919
Speaker 1: do it, it now just sounds like I mean, listen,

796
00:35:07,960 --> 00:35:10,799
Speaker 1: we're all hip hop fans. For us to collectively think

797
00:35:10,880 --> 00:35:13,480
Speaker 1: that something's crass, you guys, how crass it has to

798
00:35:13,520 --> 00:35:16,879
Speaker 1: be like not many come on, I've said this line

799
00:35:16,920 --> 00:35:18,360
Speaker 1: that I just said to you guys, you can imagine

800
00:35:18,400 --> 00:35:20,680
Speaker 1: to many other people in my life. Not one of

801
00:35:20,800 --> 00:35:22,960
Speaker 1: them has pushed back and be like, nah, that's a bar.

802
00:35:24,120 --> 00:35:26,000
Speaker 4: One person that's pushed back.

803
00:35:27,239 --> 00:35:28,439
Speaker 1: Nobody's fighting for that ball.

804
00:35:28,840 --> 00:35:34,080
Speaker 2: Nobody's pretty get We're not overly sensitive about a lot

805
00:35:34,120 --> 00:35:36,000
Speaker 2: of things, but that one each.

806
00:35:35,840 --> 00:35:37,560
Speaker 3: Other, like with the bleach on our ass. So he

807
00:35:37,640 --> 00:35:38,880
Speaker 3: kept his T shirt on because he wanted to be

808
00:35:38,880 --> 00:35:44,680
Speaker 3: a clothing designer and the bleach shirt, yeah, he had authentic.

809
00:35:44,800 --> 00:35:46,359
Speaker 3: So I had to be from you know, her throwing

810
00:35:46,400 --> 00:35:46,960
Speaker 3: an ass back.

811
00:35:47,080 --> 00:35:48,080
Speaker 4: That's how I get the design.

812
00:35:49,120 --> 00:35:50,960
Speaker 3: I totally understand it. Now you get it. We've been there.

813
00:35:51,920 --> 00:35:54,279
Speaker 3: And also a chick just getting an asshole bleached and

814
00:35:54,360 --> 00:35:57,880
Speaker 3: then fucking is also hilarious to me. Dry it's a

815
00:35:57,920 --> 00:36:00,000
Speaker 3: clean queen. He's a clean queen.

816
00:36:00,680 --> 00:36:03,080
Speaker 1: But I still believe that if Fedtie hopped on a

817
00:36:03,200 --> 00:36:05,320
Speaker 1: CARDI beat tomorrow, it would go crazy.

818
00:36:10,320 --> 00:36:13,720
Speaker 2: H The one person I started I'm looking for getting

819
00:36:13,760 --> 00:36:15,040
Speaker 2: their career back on track.

820
00:36:15,120 --> 00:36:16,759
Speaker 1: The one artist is Max By.

821
00:36:17,520 --> 00:36:20,239
Speaker 2: I think now we're in such a heavy you know,

822
00:36:20,360 --> 00:36:23,719
Speaker 2: before he went away, we're a more heavily melodic rap

823
00:36:23,920 --> 00:36:28,320
Speaker 2: time right now. And I think he's somebody that obviously

824
00:36:28,480 --> 00:36:31,879
Speaker 2: created a lot of melodies that people still probably letting

825
00:36:31,920 --> 00:36:35,879
Speaker 2: their their talents to and use and sample. He's one

826
00:36:35,920 --> 00:36:39,160
Speaker 2: of the artists that I feel like, once he comes

827
00:36:39,280 --> 00:36:41,040
Speaker 2: back and he starts to get his foot, you know,

828
00:36:41,200 --> 00:36:44,200
Speaker 2: under underneath him and understand the landscape I think that.

829
00:36:44,280 --> 00:36:47,279
Speaker 1: He has the biggest question is going to be who

830
00:36:47,440 --> 00:36:50,719
Speaker 1: is he moving with and who is helped guiding.

831
00:36:52,200 --> 00:36:57,560
Speaker 2: The thing, Like Drake putting taking Max B under his

832
00:36:57,640 --> 00:36:59,160
Speaker 2: wing and like kind of like helping him in a.

833
00:36:59,160 --> 00:37:01,360
Speaker 3: Certain wild is going to do that. He did it

834
00:37:01,400 --> 00:37:04,120
Speaker 3: with Gucci did. But I don't think that's the move

835
00:37:04,239 --> 00:37:08,560
Speaker 3: for Max. I think he should avoid everyone that is

836
00:37:08,680 --> 00:37:10,920
Speaker 3: trying to get around no pun intended the wave and

837
00:37:11,000 --> 00:37:14,240
Speaker 3: focus on his personality in what he's doing, like anytime,

838
00:37:14,280 --> 00:37:16,080
Speaker 3: even with Bobby when he came out of jail. And yeah,

839
00:37:16,120 --> 00:37:17,880
Speaker 3: of course everyone want to be around and around the migos,

840
00:37:17,880 --> 00:37:21,080
Speaker 3: this and that. That's great, but everyone's just using the

841
00:37:21,120 --> 00:37:23,600
Speaker 3: moment of he's home to try to put a record out.

842
00:37:23,640 --> 00:37:25,719
Speaker 2: No, no, no, I want to do I feel like

843
00:37:26,040 --> 00:37:29,400
Speaker 2: again because somebody that wraps in obviously melodies is a

844
00:37:29,440 --> 00:37:32,040
Speaker 2: big part of their career with Drake, I think somebody

845
00:37:32,160 --> 00:37:35,240
Speaker 2: like Max B in the studio with Drake and whatever

846
00:37:35,320 --> 00:37:38,960
Speaker 2: producers that they have around him, I think that Max B.

847
00:37:39,880 --> 00:37:43,080
Speaker 1: Picks up right where he left off. Well. I think

848
00:37:43,160 --> 00:37:45,160
Speaker 1: Drake is actually potentially a good call for him, and

849
00:37:45,239 --> 00:37:48,080
Speaker 1: it would serve both of them well in different ways, right,

850
00:37:48,320 --> 00:37:50,239
Speaker 1: it gets Drake working with someone with a lot of

851
00:37:50,320 --> 00:37:53,480
Speaker 1: credibility who's cool, and people fuck with we don't want

852
00:37:53,520 --> 00:37:55,359
Speaker 1: to see. We know what we don't want to see

853
00:37:55,440 --> 00:37:57,600
Speaker 1: is Max going to fuck with Kanye. We just had

854
00:37:57,640 --> 00:38:00,480
Speaker 1: that conversation and we know Kanye has each out like

855
00:38:00,560 --> 00:38:03,439
Speaker 1: there's been something there that's not You could get caught

856
00:38:03,520 --> 00:38:05,040
Speaker 1: up be like, oh he wants to fly me out,

857
00:38:05,680 --> 00:38:07,640
Speaker 1: but like, yeah, don't.

858
00:38:07,520 --> 00:38:11,400
Speaker 3: Fall, don't want you don't fall for the whole I

859
00:38:11,440 --> 00:38:14,000
Speaker 3: would want to too, but it's not the move. That's

860
00:38:14,200 --> 00:38:16,000
Speaker 3: more of what I was saying of Everyone is going

861
00:38:16,040 --> 00:38:17,800
Speaker 3: to reach out to him when he gets out, and

862
00:38:18,280 --> 00:38:21,040
Speaker 3: we've seen it with artists that get out that hinders

863
00:38:21,239 --> 00:38:24,160
Speaker 3: their career because they just start following every move that's

864
00:38:24,200 --> 00:38:26,080
Speaker 3: happening out there because they've been locked up. They don't

865
00:38:26,080 --> 00:38:28,080
Speaker 3: know no better. So it's like, let me get with

866
00:38:28,160 --> 00:38:29,800
Speaker 3: the people that have been dominating. And maybe that's not

867
00:38:29,880 --> 00:38:32,279
Speaker 3: what you need. Maybe Bobby needs to go back and

868
00:38:32,360 --> 00:38:35,480
Speaker 3: do exactly what Bobby not did before. But like you

869
00:38:35,600 --> 00:38:37,439
Speaker 3: had your own energy in your own way, you're trying

870
00:38:37,440 --> 00:38:39,760
Speaker 3: to give everybody. It is the difference. Though Bobby helpful

871
00:38:39,840 --> 00:38:41,880
Speaker 3: to me, it's not going to Bobby and Bobby and

872
00:38:42,560 --> 00:38:44,560
Speaker 3: I think Max can start a podcast day gets out

873
00:38:44,640 --> 00:38:47,719
Speaker 3: and out of here. That's a great point too. I

874
00:38:47,719 --> 00:38:50,560
Speaker 3: mean his personality, no matter what, has the personality like.

875
00:38:51,480 --> 00:38:52,680
Speaker 3: But I mean I don't know if he needs to

876
00:38:52,760 --> 00:38:57,400
Speaker 3: just run and go with a major artist want to

877
00:38:57,440 --> 00:39:00,360
Speaker 3: do well, that's not one for sure, the right management

878
00:39:00,480 --> 00:39:01,120
Speaker 3: circle for sure.

879
00:39:01,640 --> 00:39:05,280
Speaker 2: Uh. The complex hip Hop Powell rankings hip Hop media

880
00:39:05,800 --> 00:39:06,840
Speaker 2: rankings came out.

881
00:39:08,280 --> 00:39:08,759
Speaker 1: Last week.

882
00:39:08,960 --> 00:39:12,160
Speaker 3: Uh, pete, and we're top ten and not ten this year,

883
00:39:13,320 --> 00:39:14,200
Speaker 3: top ten and not ten.

884
00:39:14,239 --> 00:39:14,640
Speaker 1: Yeah we're not.

885
00:39:14,840 --> 00:39:18,120
Speaker 3: We're not number ten. Oh oh good, we're number nine.

886
00:39:18,200 --> 00:39:21,080
Speaker 3: Yeah we're not. We're not either.

887
00:39:22,400 --> 00:39:24,880
Speaker 1: Not ten and not eight. But yeah yeah yeah, no,

888
00:39:25,200 --> 00:39:26,080
Speaker 1: not seven though in.

889
00:39:26,200 --> 00:39:28,840
Speaker 3: A surprise, we're not number one. Yeah. I know you're shocked.

890
00:39:28,960 --> 00:39:31,120
Speaker 3: But uh, yeah, did you did you look at this list?

891
00:39:31,320 --> 00:39:31,360
Speaker 2: No?

892
00:39:31,880 --> 00:39:34,680
Speaker 1: Neither did I know I did. The first year I decided,

893
00:39:35,040 --> 00:39:36,360
Speaker 1: I this is the first year I decided to go

894
00:39:36,400 --> 00:39:39,279
Speaker 1: ahead and spare my fragile ego and not look.

895
00:39:39,600 --> 00:39:41,560
Speaker 3: Yeah, and I and then here I have my friends

896
00:39:41,600 --> 00:39:42,479
Speaker 3: to bring it up for me, right.

897
00:39:42,360 --> 00:39:43,719
Speaker 2: When I get right on the podcast. Well no, I

898
00:39:43,800 --> 00:39:45,880
Speaker 2: mean I didn't look at it either. Yeah, And I

899
00:39:46,400 --> 00:39:48,600
Speaker 2: to to your point, I didn't look at the list

900
00:39:48,719 --> 00:39:50,840
Speaker 2: of Peach. I brought it up last week when it

901
00:39:50,880 --> 00:39:52,520
Speaker 2: came out. I just saw we was at and that

902
00:39:52,680 --> 00:39:55,080
Speaker 2: was that. We went through it h Monday and kind

903
00:39:55,120 --> 00:39:56,200
Speaker 2: of just saw who else was the top.

904
00:39:56,239 --> 00:39:58,160
Speaker 1: Well, I'll say this, So I didn't look at it

905
00:39:58,200 --> 00:40:01,120
Speaker 1: this year, like I said, on account of protecting my

906
00:40:01,560 --> 00:40:04,680
Speaker 1: own because like two things. One, I don't deserve to

907
00:40:04,920 --> 00:40:07,200
Speaker 1: be on it, because I don't do the things in

908
00:40:07,320 --> 00:40:09,279
Speaker 1: the places that one would really do to be on

909
00:40:09,360 --> 00:40:13,080
Speaker 1: that list. Because like my opinions in New York City Radio,

910
00:40:13,680 --> 00:40:16,000
Speaker 1: as you could tell by the list, that's not I

911
00:40:16,000 --> 00:40:18,080
Speaker 1: imagine if I were to look at it, that's not

912
00:40:18,200 --> 00:40:18,560
Speaker 1: what's weir.

913
00:40:18,640 --> 00:40:20,160
Speaker 3: Shanny Sharp was on a list. You should be on

914
00:40:20,200 --> 00:40:20,719
Speaker 3: a list, all.

915
00:40:20,719 --> 00:40:22,680
Speaker 1: Right, Fine, you're right, I should be able to Well

916
00:40:22,719 --> 00:40:26,319
Speaker 1: that's what my point is about the list though end

917
00:40:26,360 --> 00:40:28,440
Speaker 1: listen complex is great at getting people to talk. And

918
00:40:28,560 --> 00:40:29,880
Speaker 1: I know this is now a point that's.

919
00:40:29,719 --> 00:40:31,239
Speaker 3: Been we'll get rout up of a list, you know,

920
00:40:31,320 --> 00:40:32,480
Speaker 3: list like yeah, and.

921
00:40:32,520 --> 00:40:34,160
Speaker 1: I know this is I'm sure there's already been talked

922
00:40:34,160 --> 00:40:37,480
Speaker 1: about a nauseum. The thing that's annoying is the cats

923
00:40:37,480 --> 00:40:40,400
Speaker 1: they put on aren't hip hop, Like that's the thing

924
00:40:41,200 --> 00:40:43,960
Speaker 1: is number one, not hip hop? Okay, why do you

925
00:40:43,960 --> 00:40:48,120
Speaker 1: feel like Kai is not hip hop? Because like, has

926
00:40:48,239 --> 00:40:50,640
Speaker 1: Kai ever done? By the way, this is some I'm

927
00:40:50,640 --> 00:40:51,759
Speaker 1: missing him. I'm not at all.

928
00:40:52,200 --> 00:40:53,360
Speaker 3: I just went through our last episode.

929
00:40:53,400 --> 00:40:55,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, he's he's great, But like has he if you

930
00:40:55,640 --> 00:40:58,240
Speaker 1: were to add up like ten episodes of Kai Snat,

931
00:40:59,000 --> 00:41:00,719
Speaker 1: I wonder if he's talked as much hip hop as

932
00:41:00,760 --> 00:41:02,719
Speaker 1: we did in the last hour. It's try about breaking

933
00:41:02,760 --> 00:41:05,000
Speaker 1: down music, Okay, God, Like there's a hit, Like we're

934
00:41:05,000 --> 00:41:07,040
Speaker 1: having a hip hop conversation, you know what I'm saying.

935
00:41:07,560 --> 00:41:10,480
Speaker 1: Like when siphon I do our little niche one ap

936
00:41:10,520 --> 00:41:12,960
Speaker 1: every week, not every week. Sometimes we just talk about Ssifh,

937
00:41:12,960 --> 00:41:15,759
Speaker 1: Galavant in the World, Dave Chappelle. But sometimes like this week,

938
00:41:16,160 --> 00:41:18,759
Speaker 1: we are going out talking about the albums that came out,

939
00:41:19,320 --> 00:41:19,600
Speaker 1: what we.

940
00:41:19,760 --> 00:41:20,520
Speaker 3: Like, what we don't.

941
00:41:20,719 --> 00:41:25,200
Speaker 1: That is a hip hop conversation, Kai Sanat Shannon Sharp.

942
00:41:25,600 --> 00:41:27,000
Speaker 1: Did they put Aiden Ross on the list?

943
00:41:27,360 --> 00:41:27,400
Speaker 2: No?

944
00:41:28,040 --> 00:41:29,600
Speaker 3: Okay, So what's the difference? Real quick?

945
00:41:29,680 --> 00:41:30,640
Speaker 4: So what's the difference?

946
00:41:31,160 --> 00:41:33,520
Speaker 3: Essentially? I'm not going to read their whole breakdown, but

947
00:41:34,680 --> 00:41:39,080
Speaker 3: it their criteria does sort of match the list more

948
00:41:39,160 --> 00:41:41,840
Speaker 3: or less, Okay, what's the good. The biggest one that

949
00:41:41,920 --> 00:41:44,800
Speaker 3: I think validated Kai being on there the most is

950
00:41:45,760 --> 00:41:50,600
Speaker 3: is this outlet where hip hop goes for rollouts and

951
00:41:50,719 --> 00:41:54,960
Speaker 3: to break certain news and artists. And I can say

952
00:41:55,640 --> 00:41:58,080
Speaker 3: with what Kai has done with his house and everything,

953
00:41:58,880 --> 00:42:03,680
Speaker 3: there's been some roles there. Yeah, like some did house. No,

954
00:42:04,160 --> 00:42:06,040
Speaker 3: but you know, Nikki did a whole thing there, like

955
00:42:06,360 --> 00:42:09,759
Speaker 3: you know, offset rappers go there often. Is it hip

956
00:42:09,800 --> 00:42:10,440
Speaker 3: hop media?

957
00:42:10,520 --> 00:42:10,719
Speaker 1: To me?

958
00:42:11,000 --> 00:42:14,399
Speaker 3: No, because they don't even really like talk about the music.

959
00:42:14,480 --> 00:42:16,719
Speaker 3: They just have fun, which I think is incredible. I

960
00:42:16,840 --> 00:42:18,440
Speaker 3: just don't know if that's hip hop media, that's all,

961
00:42:18,520 --> 00:42:22,080
Speaker 3: but by their criteria, I mean, I guess and listen.

962
00:42:21,880 --> 00:42:24,120
Speaker 1: What he's done has been we are huge fans of

963
00:42:24,840 --> 00:42:26,320
Speaker 1: I'm not going to go that far because I'm just

964
00:42:26,520 --> 00:42:29,000
Speaker 1: you know, I'm not a liar, and I'm not saying.

965
00:42:28,800 --> 00:42:31,320
Speaker 3: You know, we really like really fun do that.

966
00:42:31,840 --> 00:42:33,160
Speaker 1: But I'm not saying you are. But I'm not.

967
00:42:35,160 --> 00:42:37,319
Speaker 3: I'm not going to go home and be like, all right,

968
00:42:37,360 --> 00:42:39,439
Speaker 3: well you know what, let me tap into the Kai string.

969
00:42:39,840 --> 00:42:42,320
Speaker 3: But we have supported him for quite some time. I

970
00:42:42,400 --> 00:42:45,560
Speaker 3: think every I think him representing the new wave of media.

971
00:42:45,640 --> 00:42:47,400
Speaker 1: The best week is the best thing that we com

972
00:42:49,520 --> 00:42:52,040
Speaker 1: is the one he doesn't get me mad at all.

973
00:42:52,480 --> 00:42:54,879
Speaker 1: Like I know, I just wasn't going to say I'm

974
00:42:54,920 --> 00:42:57,000
Speaker 1: a fan because that might imply like I'm tapping in.

975
00:42:57,840 --> 00:43:00,600
Speaker 1: But no, as a person, I'm a fan too. I

976
00:43:00,680 --> 00:43:03,560
Speaker 1: find them to be like more than inoffensive. It seems

977
00:43:03,560 --> 00:43:06,280
Speaker 1: like a good person who uses platform well and it's impressive.

978
00:43:06,640 --> 00:43:09,560
Speaker 1: I just like doesn't strike me as hip hop. And

979
00:43:10,320 --> 00:43:13,320
Speaker 1: when I've looked at those things previously, they'll just be

980
00:43:13,480 --> 00:43:17,480
Speaker 1: things that are like I mean, they're just things I

981
00:43:17,600 --> 00:43:21,640
Speaker 1: don't understand, things that they label as hip hop that

982
00:43:21,719 --> 00:43:24,719
Speaker 1: I'm like, just because this is a space where an

983
00:43:24,840 --> 00:43:28,480
Speaker 1: artist occasionally shows up or literally like the host is black,

984
00:43:28,840 --> 00:43:31,279
Speaker 1: that is what your standard was for them being hip hop, right, they.

985
00:43:31,160 --> 00:43:31,600
Speaker 4: Don't need to.

986
00:43:31,840 --> 00:43:34,239
Speaker 1: We're not getting into what they're doing one way or

987
00:43:34,280 --> 00:43:35,839
Speaker 1: the other. Like to me, it's just ends up being

988
00:43:35,960 --> 00:43:38,440
Speaker 1: lazy and trolly. But that's why we're talking about it.

989
00:43:38,680 --> 00:43:41,879
Speaker 3: So, I mean, ironically, I would never want Aiden Ross

990
00:43:41,920 --> 00:43:45,560
Speaker 3: to be on this list, but by some of their criteria,

991
00:43:46,440 --> 00:43:48,640
Speaker 3: you could make a fucking case that for Aidan Ross

992
00:43:48,640 --> 00:43:50,200
Speaker 3: has said more than I shit, And I think Deck

993
00:43:50,360 --> 00:43:52,920
Speaker 3: is a fucking douchebag. But be careful why.

994
00:43:53,000 --> 00:43:59,440
Speaker 1: Because yeah, their fans are Aiden Ross, Yeah Wild Wild.

995
00:44:00,000 --> 00:44:01,640
Speaker 3: Okay, So I think aiight and Ros is a douchebat.

996
00:44:03,600 --> 00:44:06,120
Speaker 1: But if we're going off this, then Aiden has had

997
00:44:06,800 --> 00:44:09,440
Speaker 1: more hip about where music has even been discussed than

998
00:44:09,600 --> 00:44:12,920
Speaker 1: a lot of peoples. He has some of this, But

999
00:44:12,920 --> 00:44:15,040
Speaker 1: I'm also complimenting him and like, all right, well, if

1000
00:44:15,080 --> 00:44:17,319
Speaker 1: this is the criteria you have had hip hop ship,

1001
00:44:17,480 --> 00:44:21,120
Speaker 1: no he has. He has horrifyingly bad conversations about hip hop.

1002
00:44:21,160 --> 00:44:22,600
Speaker 4: They're awfulsation.

1003
00:44:22,760 --> 00:44:25,879
Speaker 1: Yeah, like so this is yeah, Like I've definitely seen

1004
00:44:25,880 --> 00:44:28,560
Speaker 1: the clips move around of him saying some dumb ship

1005
00:44:28,680 --> 00:44:31,160
Speaker 1: about this artist or that artist, with no background, no

1006
00:44:31,280 --> 00:44:31,760
Speaker 1: real interest.

1007
00:44:32,120 --> 00:44:33,240
Speaker 4: I was thinking about that earlier.

1008
00:44:33,280 --> 00:44:33,360
Speaker 1: Bro.

1009
00:44:33,560 --> 00:44:35,760
Speaker 3: It is so fucking crazy.

1010
00:44:36,400 --> 00:44:41,640
Speaker 1: The standard by which you know, if I felt like

1011
00:44:41,719 --> 00:44:45,840
Speaker 1: I was held to when I was emerging versus the

1012
00:44:46,080 --> 00:44:49,640
Speaker 1: lack of standard that anyone is held to anymore, is

1013
00:44:49,800 --> 00:44:53,399
Speaker 1: so fucking wild. Like when you think about the things

1014
00:44:53,400 --> 00:44:55,520
Speaker 1: that I like got in trouble for early in my career,

1015
00:44:55,680 --> 00:44:58,560
Speaker 1: the issues I had with people like he, I can't

1016
00:44:58,640 --> 00:45:01,920
Speaker 1: believe he had the nerve to say that Starships sucks.

1017
00:45:02,440 --> 00:45:06,239
Speaker 1: Right now, a proven fact in history. But at the

1018
00:45:06,320 --> 00:45:08,440
Speaker 1: time it was like, oh my god, like is that offensive.

1019
00:45:08,600 --> 00:45:10,480
Speaker 1: I don't even think he should be saying things like that.

1020
00:45:10,960 --> 00:45:11,840
Speaker 1: This is a problem.

1021
00:45:12,120 --> 00:45:14,959
Speaker 4: This is now you can literally.

1022
00:45:14,719 --> 00:45:18,160
Speaker 3: Move around and say I bleached her asshole correct.

1023
00:45:18,440 --> 00:45:21,920
Speaker 1: The podcast for with no no, no doing anything positive,

1024
00:45:23,080 --> 00:45:26,480
Speaker 1: no contribution to anything. Say whatever you want, that's nasty,

1025
00:45:26,880 --> 00:45:30,560
Speaker 1: be hurtful, be hateful, and really there's people will still.

1026
00:45:30,440 --> 00:45:31,440
Speaker 3: Go to stand right next to you.

1027
00:45:31,600 --> 00:45:34,600
Speaker 1: Oh absolutely people people you know, like you could have

1028
00:45:34,800 --> 00:45:39,120
Speaker 1: right wing, crazed, right wing podcasts who interview the worst

1029
00:45:39,200 --> 00:45:42,600
Speaker 1: people on earth, and then two seconds later, oh they

1030
00:45:42,640 --> 00:45:44,439
Speaker 1: got hip hop people say right next to himlah blah blah,

1031
00:45:44,480 --> 00:45:45,360
Speaker 1: no problem, no problem.

1032
00:45:45,800 --> 00:45:48,200
Speaker 4: It's just there's no standard whatsoever.

1033
00:45:48,360 --> 00:45:50,080
Speaker 1: Which back to the point about Kay's snot, which is

1034
00:45:50,120 --> 00:45:52,680
Speaker 1: why I like the fact that Kay's not. I don't

1035
00:45:52,680 --> 00:45:55,799
Speaker 1: see him stand next to really any bad shit. His positivity,

1036
00:45:56,920 --> 00:45:58,640
Speaker 1: that's pretty cool. It's hard not to like him as

1037
00:45:58,640 --> 00:46:00,279
Speaker 1: a person. Yeah, I guess he was very positive.

1038
00:46:00,200 --> 00:46:03,560
Speaker 3: With the streaming thing placboy Max. I think he's the

1039
00:46:03,600 --> 00:46:06,560
Speaker 3: best representation of hip hop media. Now tell me who

1040
00:46:06,600 --> 00:46:06,800
Speaker 3: that is?

1041
00:46:07,200 --> 00:46:07,239
Speaker 2: He?

1042
00:46:07,280 --> 00:46:09,520
Speaker 3: All right, so he streams? Is this in the boot

1043
00:46:09,560 --> 00:46:12,400
Speaker 3: series where he'll actually make records with the artist in

1044
00:46:12,520 --> 00:46:14,479
Speaker 3: real time. He's done it with up and coming artists,

1045
00:46:14,480 --> 00:46:16,600
Speaker 3: he's done it with famous artists. Like his platform is

1046
00:46:16,800 --> 00:46:19,480
Speaker 3: hip hop for really, So he's at number four and

1047
00:46:19,680 --> 00:46:21,600
Speaker 3: he just smokes the streaming shit. Period. He's taking a

1048
00:46:21,640 --> 00:46:23,960
Speaker 3: little break. But I mean, to me, that's been the

1049
00:46:24,000 --> 00:46:27,120
Speaker 3: best merge of streamers versus real hip hop media before this.

1050
00:46:27,600 --> 00:46:30,720
Speaker 3: Plackboy Max black Boy Max, Like he's actually making records

1051
00:46:30,760 --> 00:46:30,920
Speaker 3: on that.

1052
00:46:31,040 --> 00:46:31,480
Speaker 4: Well, that's that.

1053
00:46:31,680 --> 00:46:33,560
Speaker 1: That to me sounds like something that's super deserveve of

1054
00:46:33,600 --> 00:46:35,600
Speaker 1: being in the hip hop media conversation. But they're weird,

1055
00:46:35,719 --> 00:46:39,239
Speaker 1: like complex, you know. Sometimes they'll throw people in who

1056
00:46:39,280 --> 00:46:41,879
Speaker 1: are like legacy, like whose names I'm not gonna mention

1057
00:46:41,960 --> 00:46:44,040
Speaker 1: because the yeah I.

1058
00:46:44,080 --> 00:46:46,400
Speaker 3: Say that, I'm already getting killed on the internet. YEA,

1059
00:46:46,640 --> 00:46:48,920
Speaker 3: Like though mentioning what I probably think you're gonna say, Yeah,

1060
00:46:48,920 --> 00:46:49,880
Speaker 3: they I don't even know who's on it.

1061
00:46:49,920 --> 00:46:51,600
Speaker 1: But I'm just my guess is I've seen them throw

1062
00:46:51,719 --> 00:46:54,160
Speaker 1: legacy names on and I'm like, why did they get

1063
00:46:54,200 --> 00:46:55,920
Speaker 1: the leg Why didn't I get the legacy? If you

1064
00:46:55,960 --> 00:46:57,680
Speaker 1: were just going to toss someone in because they have

1065
00:46:57,760 --> 00:46:59,880
Speaker 1: not had a hip hop conversation and god.

1066
00:46:59,760 --> 00:47:02,439
Speaker 3: Knows how long. Yeah, you know, just do a little

1067
00:47:02,440 --> 00:47:04,520
Speaker 3: bit more work, man, you know, quickly. Not to repeat

1068
00:47:05,719 --> 00:47:08,000
Speaker 3: what we talked about last time, more or less. I said,

1069
00:47:08,000 --> 00:47:10,920
Speaker 3: if we're gonna put legacy in the top ten, then

1070
00:47:11,200 --> 00:47:14,719
Speaker 3: clear all of us out and put Angie Sway big boy, Like,

1071
00:47:14,960 --> 00:47:17,000
Speaker 3: if you're gonna put legacy, then just make a legacy.

1072
00:47:17,680 --> 00:47:20,439
Speaker 3: You're rap like just throwing a legacy in the mix

1073
00:47:20,840 --> 00:47:23,600
Speaker 3: in a top ten situation? Is that that happen this time? Yeah,

1074
00:47:23,760 --> 00:47:25,920
Speaker 3: it's just like, all right, well then put Angie there.

1075
00:47:26,200 --> 00:47:27,840
Speaker 3: Like if we're just going to be putting people on

1076
00:47:28,560 --> 00:47:30,520
Speaker 3: the log, all right, it's just Sway number two then.

1077
00:47:30,719 --> 00:47:33,000
Speaker 1: But yeah, this this whole thing is the dumbest when

1078
00:47:33,000 --> 00:47:35,080
Speaker 1: you really do think about it, like this is literally

1079
00:47:35,080 --> 00:47:39,160
Speaker 1: it's brilliant. And simultaneously they get all of the people

1080
00:47:39,600 --> 00:47:41,759
Speaker 1: who are on the list to talk about the list and.

1081
00:47:41,800 --> 00:47:43,520
Speaker 3: Then all the people that are not on to talk

1082
00:47:43,520 --> 00:47:44,000
Speaker 3: about it as well.

1083
00:47:44,080 --> 00:47:50,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, so it's amazing. But like we're ranking media personalities. Okay,

1084
00:47:51,760 --> 00:47:53,640
Speaker 1: we are the only space that does weird shit like this.

1085
00:47:54,400 --> 00:47:55,840
Speaker 3: We rank rappers. We need rappers to.

1086
00:47:55,840 --> 00:47:57,160
Speaker 4: Fight with each other, we need to rank them.

1087
00:47:57,360 --> 00:47:57,759
Speaker 1: But I mean.

1088
00:47:59,239 --> 00:48:00,959
Speaker 4: With each other, Like what the fuck are we doing?

1089
00:48:01,880 --> 00:48:02,600
Speaker 1: Like we don't do that.

1090
00:48:02,680 --> 00:48:05,239
Speaker 3: Complex used to do the twenty three best Jordan's No,

1091
00:48:05,400 --> 00:48:08,520
Speaker 3: that's true. This is their brand. Yeah, yeah, this is

1092
00:48:08,640 --> 00:48:10,560
Speaker 3: definitely But I mean, I guess, I mean that's all

1093
00:48:10,920 --> 00:48:13,920
Speaker 3: that's why we love hip hop in the battlespace and

1094
00:48:14,120 --> 00:48:16,239
Speaker 3: turns of us having arguments and ranking that. You don't

1095
00:48:16,239 --> 00:48:18,160
Speaker 3: think it's gonna happen in podcasting, like it's just going

1096
00:48:18,239 --> 00:48:20,640
Speaker 3: to fold over into everything else that's attached hip hop.

1097
00:48:20,800 --> 00:48:22,160
Speaker 2: No listen, And if I was on the list, I'd

1098
00:48:22,160 --> 00:48:25,960
Speaker 2: be fine with it. But yeah, that wouldn't be So

1099
00:48:26,080 --> 00:48:28,440
Speaker 2: you just had Tyler Tyler to creator. You just interviewed

1100
00:48:28,440 --> 00:48:29,120
Speaker 2: Tyler the other day.

1101
00:48:29,160 --> 00:48:30,560
Speaker 4: How many people on the list have Tyler this year?

1102
00:48:30,560 --> 00:48:30,680
Speaker 1: Though?

1103
00:48:30,760 --> 00:48:34,960
Speaker 3: Anyways, keep on. Actually I'll give you your flowers. Who

1104
00:48:35,040 --> 00:48:36,760
Speaker 3: has the most Tyler interviews in history?

1105
00:48:37,280 --> 00:48:37,440
Speaker 1: Oh?

1106
00:48:37,560 --> 00:48:39,640
Speaker 3: Definitely me has to be. And what do you think

1107
00:48:39,760 --> 00:48:42,560
Speaker 3: the difference is? Like he is you probably have what

1108
00:48:42,880 --> 00:48:44,440
Speaker 3: like twelve No, I don't.

1109
00:48:44,400 --> 00:48:47,480
Speaker 1: Uh, probably had him with I've probably done it three

1110
00:48:47,560 --> 00:48:49,920
Speaker 1: or four times with Ebro and then I probably had him,

1111
00:48:50,040 --> 00:48:51,839
Speaker 1: you know, three to five times.

1112
00:48:51,880 --> 00:48:56,480
Speaker 3: Probably that the difference with what with him? So it's

1113
00:48:56,520 --> 00:49:00,120
Speaker 3: probably you, and then nord Ward at like three, and

1114
00:49:00,200 --> 00:49:01,600
Speaker 3: then like everyone else maybe is.

1115
00:49:02,280 --> 00:49:04,080
Speaker 4: Yeah he doesn't why not he said, he just like

1116
00:49:04,160 --> 00:49:04,799
Speaker 4: he he sto.

1117
00:49:04,960 --> 00:49:07,400
Speaker 1: He doesn't want to really do print very much and

1118
00:49:07,480 --> 00:49:09,440
Speaker 1: he doesn't like being misquoted, and I think he just

1119
00:49:09,800 --> 00:49:12,160
Speaker 1: he doesn't love the idea that clips get cut out

1120
00:49:12,200 --> 00:49:13,920
Speaker 1: of context.

1121
00:49:14,080 --> 00:49:16,799
Speaker 3: Yeah, and he trusts us and we have great conversations.

1122
00:49:16,880 --> 00:49:18,680
Speaker 3: So yeah, I mean, I might say even when he

1123
00:49:18,960 --> 00:49:21,520
Speaker 3: when I saw that he came on this week, it

1124
00:49:21,600 --> 00:49:23,920
Speaker 3: didn't shock me, but I was like, Tyler really fucks

1125
00:49:23,960 --> 00:49:27,279
Speaker 3: with Rosenberg because he does not do this and every

1126
00:49:27,360 --> 00:49:29,800
Speaker 3: album continues to come right to y'all and let me

1127
00:49:29,880 --> 00:49:33,080
Speaker 3: not say y'all you because I remember back then when

1128
00:49:33,239 --> 00:49:35,879
Speaker 3: Ebro was like, this is weird. Get this ship away

1129
00:49:35,920 --> 00:49:37,799
Speaker 3: from me, don't And he showed up on like maybe

1130
00:49:37,840 --> 00:49:39,680
Speaker 3: the second or third one when it was UK Fox

1131
00:49:39,840 --> 00:49:43,240
Speaker 3: and Sight. He popped in because Odd Future was catching

1132
00:49:43,320 --> 00:49:46,279
Speaker 3: some noise and I'm like, oh, now he brought show up.

1133
00:49:46,800 --> 00:49:48,240
Speaker 4: You remember the whole history.

1134
00:49:49,400 --> 00:49:51,480
Speaker 3: But no, it's a compliment because I can't think of

1135
00:49:51,560 --> 00:49:56,000
Speaker 3: another artist and interviewer that has had that type of

1136
00:49:56,080 --> 00:49:59,719
Speaker 3: relationship at the caliber of artist that Tyler is that's nice,

1137
00:49:59,800 --> 00:50:02,879
Speaker 3: like that, that's crazy that that's not brought up more

1138
00:50:02,920 --> 00:50:05,080
Speaker 3: that he continues to come back to your show every

1139
00:50:05,080 --> 00:50:08,839
Speaker 3: single time. I truly appreciate that. I truly appreciate them.

1140
00:50:08,920 --> 00:50:13,359
Speaker 1: It's Tyler and Clancy and yeah, Clancy reached out when

1141
00:50:13,360 --> 00:50:15,279
Speaker 1: I was gone and said they wanted to come in,

1142
00:50:15,760 --> 00:50:18,799
Speaker 1: and I was like, I'm on paternity and he was like, well,

1143
00:50:19,360 --> 00:50:21,239
Speaker 1: you're gonna show. We need you to show up if

1144
00:50:21,280 --> 00:50:25,760
Speaker 1: you if And I was like, what kind of asshole

1145
00:50:25,760 --> 00:50:27,239
Speaker 1: would I be? I don't have I don't have a

1146
00:50:27,320 --> 00:50:29,040
Speaker 1: lot of the you know people. He's like a guy

1147
00:50:29,080 --> 00:50:31,960
Speaker 1: who's entering legend status, say please, we need to have

1148
00:50:32,000 --> 00:50:35,279
Speaker 1: a conversation. So now it's super flattering and honestly like

1149
00:50:35,800 --> 00:50:38,640
Speaker 1: they are literally among the only people who, no matter

1150
00:50:38,760 --> 00:50:41,960
Speaker 1: what has happened, at every turn, Hey we're coming to town.

1151
00:50:42,000 --> 00:50:43,399
Speaker 1: Do you want to go to the show? Blah blah blah,

1152
00:50:43,640 --> 00:50:47,120
Speaker 1: like you know, and Rory knows me very well because

1153
00:50:47,120 --> 00:50:49,480
Speaker 1: he's listened, he listens to my ship. He's heard my

1154
00:50:49,520 --> 00:50:51,640
Speaker 1: complaints over all my years. Like I am a I

1155
00:50:51,719 --> 00:50:56,160
Speaker 1: am beyond a sensitive type, and so that it goes

1156
00:50:56,200 --> 00:50:59,880
Speaker 1: a long way for me that like they remember, you know.

1157
00:51:00,200 --> 00:51:01,759
Speaker 1: And I asked Tyler in the interview, do you remember

1158
00:51:01,800 --> 00:51:03,759
Speaker 1: our first interview. All he remembered was that it wasn't

1159
00:51:03,800 --> 00:51:05,479
Speaker 1: in the radio station. It was in a hotel lobby,

1160
00:51:05,560 --> 00:51:10,520
Speaker 1: which is crazy. But like I saw them, you know,

1161
00:51:10,640 --> 00:51:13,000
Speaker 1: on the internet when people started seeing it. But I

1162
00:51:13,080 --> 00:51:15,720
Speaker 1: remember the first time I saw the first Odd Future

1163
00:51:15,800 --> 00:51:20,120
Speaker 1: video I saw. I remember it having under fifty thousand views,

1164
00:51:20,960 --> 00:51:23,640
Speaker 1: and then I remember like it very quickly, having like

1165
00:51:23,719 --> 00:51:26,960
Speaker 1: five hundred thousand million, and I hit it very very quick.

1166
00:51:28,760 --> 00:51:31,920
Speaker 1: And then six months later or whatever it was, they

1167
00:51:32,000 --> 00:51:33,520
Speaker 1: had that show in the city.

1168
00:51:33,640 --> 00:51:35,120
Speaker 3: It was that Highliner Santos.

1169
00:51:35,200 --> 00:51:36,800
Speaker 1: I think it was at high Line high Line and

1170
00:51:36,840 --> 00:51:39,520
Speaker 1: when I I went with Benner and I WoT money

1171
00:51:39,560 --> 00:51:41,400
Speaker 1: and that was the one. We were terrified and everybody

1172
00:51:41,480 --> 00:51:45,560
Speaker 1: was there, Like they went from like nothing to like

1173
00:51:45,680 --> 00:51:49,160
Speaker 1: Paul Rosenberg was there, Yeah, every somewhere, from bad Boys,

1174
00:51:49,239 --> 00:51:50,840
Speaker 1: everyone from every This is the time when that was

1175
00:51:50,880 --> 00:51:55,239
Speaker 1: still happening, and they were all petrified. Yeah, everyone was

1176
00:51:55,239 --> 00:51:57,920
Speaker 1: like because because everyone kind of bought the Odd Future gimmick,

1177
00:51:58,360 --> 00:51:59,880
Speaker 1: like it felt like, oh my god, these guys are

1178
00:51:59,920 --> 00:52:02,200
Speaker 1: like dangerous and that's what made it so fucking cool

1179
00:52:02,640 --> 00:52:06,440
Speaker 1: is that, like these dorky kids, sort of suburbanit La kids,

1180
00:52:07,000 --> 00:52:10,680
Speaker 1: like really created something that hit so solidly.

1181
00:52:11,120 --> 00:52:12,719
Speaker 4: But yeah, I was into it from day one.

1182
00:52:12,760 --> 00:52:16,520
Speaker 1: They did my birthday mad times, Like, imagine what I

1183
00:52:16,640 --> 00:52:20,440
Speaker 1: paid Tyler versus what he's getting for a show today.

1184
00:52:21,320 --> 00:52:21,600
Speaker 3: Bruh.

1185
00:52:21,920 --> 00:52:25,080
Speaker 1: Yeah. One of my birthday I was looking at a

1186
00:52:25,120 --> 00:52:28,080
Speaker 1: picture for my birthday party, Tyler performed.

1187
00:52:28,280 --> 00:52:30,000
Speaker 3: That was the one that we shot right at a

1188
00:52:30,200 --> 00:52:32,799
Speaker 3: best Buy Sony what a PlayStation whether shit is called now?

1189
00:52:33,120 --> 00:52:33,319
Speaker 1: Yeah?

1190
00:52:33,440 --> 00:52:36,239
Speaker 4: Well I had two with them at PlayStation yeah or so,

1191
00:52:36,440 --> 00:52:38,800
Speaker 4: but then it was Best Buy you.

1192
00:52:39,560 --> 00:52:43,400
Speaker 1: Tyler was on the bill, Sizza was there, Frank Ocean

1193
00:52:43,600 --> 00:52:47,040
Speaker 1: was there, like it was literally the Who's who was

1194
00:52:47,120 --> 00:52:50,880
Speaker 1: about to become like it in music and it's crazy.

1195
00:52:50,920 --> 00:52:52,520
Speaker 1: I was watching the video and I saw the age

1196
00:52:52,560 --> 00:52:54,600
Speaker 1: of the kids in the crowd. Who don't get me wrong,

1197
00:52:54,680 --> 00:52:57,040
Speaker 1: I was already much older than then. Yeah, Like I'm

1198
00:52:57,200 --> 00:52:59,239
Speaker 1: I was in my early thirties then, and it all

1199
00:52:59,280 --> 00:53:02,239
Speaker 1: felt like kids m hm. And it's just funny now

1200
00:53:02,760 --> 00:53:06,560
Speaker 1: to be thirteen years older. Yeah, and so the distance

1201
00:53:06,640 --> 00:53:10,600
Speaker 1: feels that much bigger between me and kids today. Although

1202
00:53:10,640 --> 00:53:14,600
Speaker 1: the weird thing about Tyler is he still continues to

1203
00:53:14,600 --> 00:53:17,240
Speaker 1: get these high school kids. Yeah, like he gets older,

1204
00:53:17,680 --> 00:53:21,359
Speaker 1: like Tyler. I think mac Miller is similar. Yeah, time

1205
00:53:21,480 --> 00:53:24,640
Speaker 1: goes on. Teenagers still right there. Yeah, it's like they

1206
00:53:24,719 --> 00:53:27,200
Speaker 1: become coming of age music where now like once you

1207
00:53:27,320 --> 00:53:30,719
Speaker 1: discover you love music, Yeah, you're gonna find mac Miller,

1208
00:53:30,719 --> 00:53:32,319
Speaker 1: You're gonna find Swimming Hole is great at that.

1209
00:53:32,360 --> 00:53:33,279
Speaker 3: Soon j Cole too.

1210
00:53:33,640 --> 00:53:35,719
Speaker 1: They keep continuing to get and it's like and I

1211
00:53:35,800 --> 00:53:37,440
Speaker 1: think you know, now Kendrick seems to be in a

1212
00:53:37,520 --> 00:53:40,160
Speaker 1: younger space than ever too, because he's now done this

1213
00:53:40,200 --> 00:53:41,560
Speaker 1: popular the popular thing as well.

1214
00:53:41,680 --> 00:53:42,040
Speaker 3: Mm hmm.

1215
00:53:42,320 --> 00:53:45,239
Speaker 4: But yeah, but Tyler in particular, like in terms of popular.

1216
00:53:44,960 --> 00:53:45,399
Speaker 3: With the kids.

1217
00:53:45,520 --> 00:53:49,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, it's it's very cool now, it's I'm grateful

1218
00:53:49,120 --> 00:53:50,279
Speaker 1: that they still want to talk.

1219
00:53:50,440 --> 00:53:52,320
Speaker 3: No, I mean here's the dig portion of it. Of

1220
00:53:52,400 --> 00:53:55,080
Speaker 3: the flowers. Tyler's usually so innovative. It's crazy that he

1221
00:53:55,160 --> 00:53:59,640
Speaker 3: keeps coming to you, which a human being you are,

1222
00:54:00,520 --> 00:54:02,759
Speaker 3: you know, I'm serious. You know, Tyler would want to

1223
00:54:02,760 --> 00:54:05,040
Speaker 3: find some new way to do interviews or whatever, but

1224
00:54:05,160 --> 00:54:06,799
Speaker 3: still comes to radio and to you.

1225
00:54:07,239 --> 00:54:10,160
Speaker 1: Have innovative though, Yeah, Like isn't that innovative? I mean

1226
00:54:10,320 --> 00:54:14,839
Speaker 1: everything comes back everything, Yeah, to radio ship clips, did

1227
00:54:14,920 --> 00:54:16,720
Speaker 1: I they call an old school rollout?

1228
00:54:16,760 --> 00:54:17,399
Speaker 3: I guess yeah.

1229
00:54:17,520 --> 00:54:19,360
Speaker 1: And by the way everything comes back, we missed the clips,

1230
00:54:19,440 --> 00:54:20,719
Speaker 1: like so we were all off when the clips we

1231
00:54:20,800 --> 00:54:22,600
Speaker 1: were we were we were part of that as well,

1232
00:54:22,680 --> 00:54:23,160
Speaker 1: but missed it.

1233
00:54:23,520 --> 00:54:25,120
Speaker 3: But likely yeah.

1234
00:54:25,840 --> 00:54:25,920
Speaker 1: But.

1235
00:54:27,800 --> 00:54:30,160
Speaker 3: I'm trying to we had a scheduling conflict.

1236
00:54:31,160 --> 00:54:32,600
Speaker 4: I don't know what the inside joke is here.

1237
00:54:32,719 --> 00:54:34,560
Speaker 1: Was it that they didn't call or all of our

1238
00:54:34,640 --> 00:54:36,360
Speaker 1: fans have been considering this is the first time we

1239
00:54:36,360 --> 00:54:37,040
Speaker 1: even acknowledge it.

1240
00:54:37,040 --> 00:54:38,840
Speaker 3: All our fans keep asking why the clips didn't come here,

1241
00:54:39,200 --> 00:54:41,120
Speaker 3: And I don't know. We didn't. It just didn't happen. Yeah,

1242
00:54:41,160 --> 00:54:43,640
Speaker 3: that's we pushed on. Just didn't happen.

1243
00:54:43,960 --> 00:54:46,880
Speaker 1: By the way, I it's it's I got to tell you,

1244
00:54:47,000 --> 00:54:51,000
Speaker 1: I'm really happy they didn't do your show. Also, it's

1245
00:54:51,080 --> 00:54:53,160
Speaker 1: nice to meet one other person in media who they

1246
00:54:53,200 --> 00:54:55,160
Speaker 1: didn't do. They didn't do. This is like the.

1247
00:54:55,200 --> 00:54:58,040
Speaker 4: Collective of the people who didn't talk to clips.

1248
00:54:58,200 --> 00:55:00,880
Speaker 3: But like they talked to everybody though on a rollout

1249
00:55:00,920 --> 00:55:01,239
Speaker 3: for real.

1250
00:55:01,360 --> 00:55:01,560
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1251
00:55:01,840 --> 00:55:04,360
Speaker 1: And I wasn't offended by though, no, no, no, no,

1252
00:55:04,680 --> 00:55:06,640
Speaker 1: I never offended when people I wasn't offended at all,

1253
00:55:06,640 --> 00:55:08,719
Speaker 1: because I love them and I've been in contact with them.

1254
00:55:08,920 --> 00:55:11,239
Speaker 4: I wasn't offended. I did all left touch beforehand. Yah,

1255
00:55:11,239 --> 00:55:13,040
Speaker 4: I felt left out. There's a difference between feeling left

1256
00:55:13,040 --> 00:55:13,840
Speaker 4: out and being offended.

1257
00:55:13,880 --> 00:55:16,480
Speaker 1: Well, I've been both that absolutely, I have too.

1258
00:55:16,560 --> 00:55:18,640
Speaker 2: But there's also the thing because you know, and watching

1259
00:55:18,640 --> 00:55:21,919
Speaker 2: a lot of their interviews on their rollout, I'm like, damn,

1260
00:55:21,960 --> 00:55:23,759
Speaker 2: but this hit that I would have asked. I know

1261
00:55:24,000 --> 00:55:26,400
Speaker 2: that some people didn't ask, or maybe they told that

1262
00:55:26,400 --> 00:55:28,759
Speaker 2: they shouldn't ask, But you just always feel like there's

1263
00:55:28,800 --> 00:55:31,880
Speaker 2: a conversation that you could have specific within artists like

1264
00:55:31,920 --> 00:55:34,040
Speaker 2: the Tyler that if you see talent so weel you're like,

1265
00:55:34,440 --> 00:55:36,399
Speaker 2: he's not going to have the conversation that he would

1266
00:55:36,400 --> 00:55:37,200
Speaker 2: have with Rosenberg.

1267
00:55:37,239 --> 00:55:37,920
Speaker 3: He's not going to do that.

1268
00:55:38,280 --> 00:55:39,600
Speaker 1: So it's the same with me sometimes.

1269
00:55:39,520 --> 00:55:40,040
Speaker 3: Year of course.

1270
00:55:40,239 --> 00:55:42,880
Speaker 1: And by the way, there also aren't that many people

1271
00:55:43,080 --> 00:55:45,480
Speaker 1: left then, like, and I think you guys and I

1272
00:55:45,640 --> 00:55:47,160
Speaker 1: probably aren't that far off in this way.

1273
00:55:47,400 --> 00:55:49,160
Speaker 3: We're like, we really would want to talk to them

1274
00:55:49,200 --> 00:55:51,360
Speaker 3: and have a lot to talk about them. Yeah, absolutely,

1275
00:55:51,400 --> 00:55:52,000
Speaker 3: there aren't that.

1276
00:55:52,320 --> 00:55:56,160
Speaker 1: Like the clips are probably as popular and hit all

1277
00:55:56,719 --> 00:55:58,320
Speaker 1: the touch points that we'd be interested in.

1278
00:55:58,560 --> 00:56:00,920
Speaker 4: There aren't that many of them that are gonna go

1279
00:56:01,040 --> 00:56:02,759
Speaker 4: do it too, you know what I mean. But like

1280
00:56:03,040 --> 00:56:03,879
Speaker 4: I really do think it's.

1281
00:56:03,800 --> 00:56:06,880
Speaker 1: Innovative that Tyler does our show as media and like

1282
00:56:07,120 --> 00:56:09,440
Speaker 1: I see that point. I like it is, you know,

1283
00:56:11,200 --> 00:56:14,640
Speaker 1: like Drake's thing has always been embraced. Who the next

1284
00:56:14,840 --> 00:56:19,320
Speaker 1: media person's gonna be and go be there? Yeah, Tyler

1285
00:56:19,400 --> 00:56:22,160
Speaker 1: has gone complete opposite of like I don't do it often,

1286
00:56:22,600 --> 00:56:24,160
Speaker 1: and when I do it, I do it with people

1287
00:56:24,200 --> 00:56:26,960
Speaker 1: that I trust, yea. And by the way, it doesn't

1288
00:56:27,080 --> 00:56:30,000
Speaker 1: matter because they're gonna your fans are coming to find

1289
00:56:30,040 --> 00:56:33,120
Speaker 1: it either way, Like the Breakfast Club has a as

1290
00:56:33,160 --> 00:56:36,600
Speaker 1: a bigger clearly a bigger YouTube presence than we do now.

1291
00:56:37,120 --> 00:56:40,480
Speaker 1: Whoever gets Tyler doesn't matter which platform his people are

1292
00:56:40,520 --> 00:56:42,360
Speaker 1: going to find for So you might as well go

1293
00:56:42,440 --> 00:56:44,320
Speaker 1: a place where like you're gonna feel comfortable, have a

1294
00:56:44,400 --> 00:56:44,680
Speaker 1: good time.

1295
00:56:44,840 --> 00:56:47,520
Speaker 3: I've done three or four hard wars, like his fans

1296
00:56:47,560 --> 00:56:49,279
Speaker 3: are going to learn more about him in a hard

1297
00:56:49,320 --> 00:56:52,400
Speaker 3: ward interview than they would at if he sat with

1298
00:56:52,840 --> 00:56:55,839
Speaker 3: Kai right more or less and not a slight skuy

1299
00:56:55,960 --> 00:56:57,719
Speaker 3: but no, no, but of course like that it makes

1300
00:56:57,760 --> 00:56:59,839
Speaker 3: pre sense and like he's he feels at home there,

1301
00:56:59,880 --> 00:57:03,400
Speaker 3: like Tyler showed up dumb early, got there before me

1302
00:57:04,360 --> 00:57:08,800
Speaker 3: was there dumb early, and stayed dumbly, like he feels.

1303
00:57:09,040 --> 00:57:11,040
Speaker 2: It seems like that type of person though, like he

1304
00:57:11,120 --> 00:57:12,800
Speaker 2: still has that in them where you'll see him in

1305
00:57:12,880 --> 00:57:14,920
Speaker 2: the most randomal places and he'll just be chilling for

1306
00:57:15,239 --> 00:57:18,200
Speaker 2: a few hours and you, like Tyler, you have nothing

1307
00:57:18,240 --> 00:57:19,880
Speaker 2: to do, like you just hear just kicking it with us,

1308
00:57:19,960 --> 00:57:20,680
Speaker 2: like okay, bet.

1309
00:57:20,720 --> 00:57:22,800
Speaker 3: Yeah, I can't you know, it's so it's so funny.

1310
00:57:22,800 --> 00:57:26,400
Speaker 1: I can't even e gauge like how Tyler's perceived because

1311
00:57:26,440 --> 00:57:28,800
Speaker 1: I've like watched it so closely from the beginning.

1312
00:57:28,840 --> 00:57:30,760
Speaker 2: It's like hard for me to even fully see me

1313
00:57:31,240 --> 00:57:33,840
Speaker 2: Yeah like that, I know he's like he's a superstar.

1314
00:57:33,920 --> 00:57:36,120
Speaker 2: He'll go outside and cause pandemonium for sure.

1315
00:57:36,360 --> 00:57:38,080
Speaker 1: Yeah. I was outside with him for a minute the

1316
00:57:38,080 --> 00:57:39,960
Speaker 1: other day and saw quickly. I'm like, oh, and he

1317
00:57:40,040 --> 00:57:42,560
Speaker 1: doesn't even look like himself. Honestly, his look right now

1318
00:57:42,600 --> 00:57:45,880
Speaker 1: with the fucking mustache truck around, he doesn't even look

1319
00:57:45,920 --> 00:57:48,040
Speaker 1: like Toyner the creative. I drove by him at first,

1320
00:57:48,080 --> 00:57:50,080
Speaker 1: I was like, and yet you know he gets stopped

1321
00:57:50,080 --> 00:57:52,440
Speaker 1: by everybody. He really is, like that, what did you

1322
00:57:52,480 --> 00:57:53,120
Speaker 1: think about.

1323
00:57:52,880 --> 00:57:56,200
Speaker 3: The album though, because we spoke about it, I didn't

1324
00:57:56,400 --> 00:57:57,240
Speaker 3: heard not like.

1325
00:57:57,400 --> 00:57:59,200
Speaker 4: That was the first thing I heard about the album

1326
00:57:59,800 --> 00:58:00,840
Speaker 4: was mall didn't like it.

1327
00:58:01,120 --> 00:58:02,880
Speaker 1: Really, that was the first thing I saw from the

1328
00:58:02,920 --> 00:58:04,920
Speaker 1: West Coast, which was a good setup for me actually,

1329
00:58:05,000 --> 00:58:07,560
Speaker 1: because I did like it. I need to spend more

1330
00:58:07,600 --> 00:58:09,200
Speaker 1: time with it. It doesn't feel like it's going to

1331
00:58:09,240 --> 00:58:11,680
Speaker 1: be chromocopia to me or something I'm gonna sit around

1332
00:58:11,680 --> 00:58:14,480
Speaker 1: with all the time. It feels like a moment in time,

1333
00:58:15,120 --> 00:58:18,520
Speaker 1: a vibe of feeling, and like it's going to have

1334
00:58:18,600 --> 00:58:21,480
Speaker 1: like a few hammers that last. Yeah, I think Ring

1335
00:58:21,600 --> 00:58:23,600
Speaker 1: Ring Ring is awesome, Like it's gonna have a couple

1336
00:58:23,600 --> 00:58:24,320
Speaker 1: of records.

1337
00:58:24,000 --> 00:58:24,640
Speaker 3: That really play.

1338
00:58:25,120 --> 00:58:26,680
Speaker 1: I would like Ring Ring Ring if we didn't have.

1339
00:58:26,760 --> 00:58:30,240
Speaker 3: No Kid, Like, why can't they both occupy it? I

1340
00:58:30,320 --> 00:58:32,920
Speaker 3: just feel like I feel people don't think? Are they

1341
00:58:33,160 --> 00:58:36,280
Speaker 3: people think that that I only like really caught was

1342
00:58:36,480 --> 00:58:38,760
Speaker 3: when I saw Twitter comparing them so much. I was like,

1343
00:58:38,800 --> 00:58:40,840
Speaker 3: I didn't because I like it, But I like it.

1344
00:58:41,040 --> 00:58:43,160
Speaker 3: I feel like I would like it more if I

1345
00:58:43,200 --> 00:58:46,760
Speaker 3: didn't hear No Kid this year a couple of months ago.

1346
00:58:47,280 --> 00:58:49,000
Speaker 4: I'm saying, what is that people think it's so similar?

1347
00:58:49,040 --> 00:58:51,040
Speaker 3: About it. I couldn't figure it out. I just saw

1348
00:58:51,120 --> 00:58:55,760
Speaker 3: the whole energy is is kind of similar. No, I know,

1349
00:58:55,840 --> 00:58:56,520
Speaker 3: I understand that.

1350
00:58:59,000 --> 00:59:00,120
Speaker 4: The only boost.

1351
00:59:02,520 --> 00:59:02,800
Speaker 1: I like.

1352
00:59:02,920 --> 00:59:05,640
Speaker 3: I don't really see the comparison between them at all,

1353
00:59:06,120 --> 00:59:06,640
Speaker 3: not compare.

1354
00:59:06,800 --> 00:59:08,760
Speaker 2: I'm not comparing them, but I'm just saying I just

1355
00:59:08,840 --> 00:59:12,000
Speaker 2: feel like, because I've heard Nokia, we've got that vibe.

1356
00:59:12,840 --> 00:59:14,800
Speaker 1: I feel like if we didn't have that and I heard.

1357
00:59:14,680 --> 00:59:16,560
Speaker 3: Ring Ring Ring, I would like ring Ring Ring Wait,

1358
00:59:16,600 --> 00:59:18,720
Speaker 3: but as opposed to like songs that have even though

1359
00:59:18,760 --> 00:59:21,360
Speaker 3: it's not sampled, Like I've had the original record and

1360
00:59:21,400 --> 00:59:22,840
Speaker 3: the sampled record, and I like both of them.

1361
00:59:23,040 --> 00:59:24,520
Speaker 1: Not only that, if you really think about it, for

1362
00:59:24,600 --> 00:59:26,840
Speaker 1: like a DJ standpoint, like back in the day, it's

1363
00:59:26,920 --> 00:59:29,480
Speaker 1: cool when you have records that now they play them

1364
00:59:29,480 --> 00:59:30,680
Speaker 1: together like you can play them.

1365
00:59:30,560 --> 00:59:30,919
Speaker 3: In a set.

1366
00:59:31,160 --> 00:59:34,880
Speaker 1: You know, every Neptune's record for two years straight. Yeah right,

1367
00:59:35,000 --> 00:59:36,480
Speaker 1: that were basically felt like they could have been the

1368
00:59:36,520 --> 00:59:36,880
Speaker 1: same beat.

1369
00:59:37,120 --> 00:59:37,480
Speaker 3: Yeah right.

1370
00:59:37,560 --> 00:59:39,520
Speaker 1: But other than that, I just didn't it just that

1371
00:59:39,640 --> 00:59:41,880
Speaker 1: I didn't. It didn't connect it. No, Listen, it's I

1372
00:59:42,040 --> 00:59:43,919
Speaker 1: understood what you were saying, Like even though I didn't

1373
00:59:43,960 --> 00:59:45,840
Speaker 1: feel the same way, I got it. Like it's a

1374
00:59:45,880 --> 00:59:48,760
Speaker 1: specific thing. He said, his sweet spot's like one hundred

1375
00:59:48,760 --> 00:59:50,800
Speaker 1: and twenty three bpm. I don't listen to a lot

1376
00:59:50,840 --> 00:59:52,400
Speaker 1: of stuff at one hundred and twenty three bpm.

1377
00:59:52,480 --> 00:59:53,040
Speaker 3: Tho often my.

1378
00:59:53,080 --> 00:59:54,280
Speaker 1: Life is way much lower than then.

1379
00:59:54,440 --> 00:59:56,080
Speaker 3: Yeah exactly, But like I.

1380
00:59:56,240 --> 00:59:58,120
Speaker 1: Just I just love to me when you start getting

1381
00:59:58,160 --> 01:00:00,560
Speaker 1: into that status of like you have seven eight albums,

1382
01:00:00,600 --> 01:00:03,440
Speaker 1: whatever it is, at a certain point it's about did

1383
01:00:03,480 --> 01:00:06,600
Speaker 1: you add a couple of songs to your concert list? Oh?

1384
01:00:06,680 --> 01:00:09,720
Speaker 3: Yeah, you're just creating a live so you added a

1385
01:00:09,760 --> 01:00:11,640
Speaker 3: couple more Yeah, yeah, yeah, I get that, And I

1386
01:00:11,720 --> 01:00:14,400
Speaker 3: mean I've lived with it. It's still probably at the

1387
01:00:14,480 --> 01:00:18,160
Speaker 3: bottom of his descography in my opinion, but I like

1388
01:00:18,240 --> 01:00:21,480
Speaker 3: it when I'm not in traffic. That was the I

1389
01:00:21,640 --> 01:00:23,480
Speaker 3: was going down the West Side Highway and I was like,

1390
01:00:23,520 --> 01:00:24,800
Speaker 3: all right, you know what, I really do like this

1391
01:00:24,840 --> 01:00:27,400
Speaker 3: ship and trying to talk me out of it. And

1392
01:00:27,520 --> 01:00:29,480
Speaker 3: then I got to you know that like right by

1393
01:00:30,160 --> 01:00:33,439
Speaker 3: Chelsea Peter, we're usually a traffic start. Once I said,

1394
01:00:33,440 --> 01:00:38,000
Speaker 3: I was like, turn the off. Yeah, yeah, like when

1395
01:00:38,040 --> 01:00:40,280
Speaker 3: I'm even cleaning the crib. I liked it. I have

1396
01:00:40,440 --> 01:00:42,360
Speaker 3: to be in the right setting for it, which is

1397
01:00:42,520 --> 01:00:46,600
Speaker 3: not a copying of Flea on the album See and

1398
01:00:46,640 --> 01:00:49,520
Speaker 3: I don't like. I don't like when people say excuses.

1399
01:00:49,560 --> 01:00:51,800
Speaker 3: I'm not finding an excuse. I like this album in

1400
01:00:51,880 --> 01:00:53,160
Speaker 3: an environment that is moving.

1401
01:00:54,080 --> 01:00:55,640
Speaker 4: So this is what you guys do.

1402
01:00:55,760 --> 01:00:57,120
Speaker 1: See, this is the problem. This is the thing about

1403
01:00:57,120 --> 01:01:00,960
Speaker 1: you guys being actually popular. Okay, everything you say is

1404
01:01:01,080 --> 01:01:03,080
Speaker 1: analyzed to the point that when you give a critique

1405
01:01:03,120 --> 01:01:06,080
Speaker 1: on an album, if it's kind of like mushy Middle,

1406
01:01:06,560 --> 01:01:07,680
Speaker 1: you're getting called out for it.

1407
01:01:07,760 --> 01:01:12,120
Speaker 2: Yes, think they think I hate Tyler like they think

1408
01:01:12,160 --> 01:01:13,880
Speaker 2: I hate him because you were just like, it's not

1409
01:01:14,000 --> 01:01:17,440
Speaker 2: one like this last album, Like it's the craziest idea

1410
01:01:17,600 --> 01:01:19,800
Speaker 2: that somebody can't like a Jordan's.

1411
01:01:19,880 --> 01:01:21,840
Speaker 1: I have plenty of Jordan's. It's something that I would

1412
01:01:21,880 --> 01:01:22,640
Speaker 1: never even look at.

1413
01:01:22,880 --> 01:01:25,480
Speaker 2: Right, I hate them doesn't mean it's not probably the

1414
01:01:25,560 --> 01:01:27,960
Speaker 2: most greatest, most iconic sneak of all times, and that.

1415
01:01:27,960 --> 01:01:30,280
Speaker 3: You don't have tons of them. This is this is

1416
01:01:30,360 --> 01:01:31,440
Speaker 3: the this is the problem.

1417
01:01:31,880 --> 01:01:33,360
Speaker 1: This is this is this is what makes it what

1418
01:01:33,440 --> 01:01:37,480
Speaker 1: you guys do challenging, where like people really are weighing

1419
01:01:37,760 --> 01:01:40,280
Speaker 1: like because it because that's not what music is.

1420
01:01:40,520 --> 01:01:41,480
Speaker 4: A Thursday to Friday.

1421
01:01:41,480 --> 01:01:43,640
Speaker 1: I don't even come on, bro, like, I need more

1422
01:01:43,680 --> 01:01:46,320
Speaker 1: time with that to even possible if it is so

1423
01:01:46,560 --> 01:01:49,520
Speaker 1: rare that I truly know after a day where I

1424
01:01:49,640 --> 01:01:52,400
Speaker 1: sit on an album I've changed on. I don't know

1425
01:01:52,400 --> 01:01:53,880
Speaker 1: if you've heard on the podcast when I did my

1426
01:01:54,240 --> 01:01:56,840
Speaker 1: breakdown of the of the clips at the listening, but

1427
01:01:56,920 --> 01:01:58,600
Speaker 1: I'm like, I can't give you a full review at

1428
01:01:58,600 --> 01:02:00,800
Speaker 1: a listening. What do you think about it? Now?

1429
01:02:00,880 --> 01:02:02,840
Speaker 4: They were four feet in front of me, wrapping along

1430
01:02:02,920 --> 01:02:03,600
Speaker 4: to every word.

1431
01:02:03,840 --> 01:02:07,640
Speaker 1: Oh like that, Yeah, yeah, you can't, you can't. That's

1432
01:02:08,160 --> 01:02:12,480
Speaker 1: literally the artists are looking at you, lipsying your face

1433
01:02:12,800 --> 01:02:14,600
Speaker 1: performing two of the.

1434
01:02:14,600 --> 01:02:16,520
Speaker 4: Greatest of all time, and I'm like, I'm not affected

1435
01:02:16,560 --> 01:02:16,720
Speaker 4: by that.

1436
01:02:16,800 --> 01:02:18,200
Speaker 1: Of course I don't know the song.

1437
01:02:18,320 --> 01:02:20,880
Speaker 3: There's only been one time I was correct leaving an

1438
01:02:20,920 --> 01:02:24,040
Speaker 3: album listening was Good Kid, Mad City, and we were

1439
01:02:24,080 --> 01:02:26,840
Speaker 3: in chunking studios in the engineers, That's how intimate it was,

1440
01:02:27,120 --> 01:02:29,400
Speaker 3: and it was Kendrick wrapping the album to push your tea.

1441
01:02:29,720 --> 01:02:31,120
Speaker 3: I left and said, this is the greatest album I've

1442
01:02:31,120 --> 01:02:33,560
Speaker 3: ever heard my fucking life, and the only time I've

1443
01:02:33,560 --> 01:02:35,480
Speaker 3: been and you were like, this is actually pretty I

1444
01:02:35,520 --> 01:02:37,760
Speaker 3: ended up being that there's been so many listening sessions

1445
01:02:37,800 --> 01:02:39,919
Speaker 3: I've walked out of like nah he got he got one,

1446
01:02:40,640 --> 01:02:43,600
Speaker 3: and then it come out, you know, like dud was listening,

1447
01:02:43,760 --> 01:02:45,360
Speaker 3: it was like, oh he was wrapping it to my face,

1448
01:02:45,480 --> 01:02:45,680
Speaker 3: that's what.

1449
01:02:46,080 --> 01:02:49,760
Speaker 4: And some of the songs, some of the production, they play.

1450
01:02:49,680 --> 01:02:52,960
Speaker 1: So loud and you're not You're like, okay, but then

1451
01:02:52,960 --> 01:02:54,400
Speaker 1: when you just hear it in regular life, you're like,

1452
01:02:54,520 --> 01:02:55,520
Speaker 1: this is beat as a dud.

1453
01:02:55,920 --> 01:02:56,880
Speaker 3: It's not hating the same.

1454
01:02:57,040 --> 01:03:00,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think the album is great. I think the

1455
01:03:00,880 --> 01:03:06,320
Speaker 1: Clips album is best album this year, the best out.

1456
01:03:06,360 --> 01:03:08,360
Speaker 1: I'd have to go back and decide how far back

1457
01:03:08,440 --> 01:03:11,360
Speaker 1: we want to go. But I've been seeing that some

1458
01:03:11,480 --> 01:03:13,440
Speaker 1: people have cooled on it a bit, like ah, we

1459
01:03:13,560 --> 01:03:16,400
Speaker 1: got so hyped, or I saw someone say say the

1460
01:03:16,480 --> 01:03:18,960
Speaker 1: other day, oh this Freddie gives alchemist. This is what

1461
01:03:19,080 --> 01:03:22,520
Speaker 1: people thought the Clips album was. People just got gassed

1462
01:03:22,560 --> 01:03:26,120
Speaker 1: on it because the rollout was so big. The album's fantastic,

1463
01:03:26,760 --> 01:03:31,080
Speaker 1: it's it's among their best words. They've come they've clearly developed.

1464
01:03:31,240 --> 01:03:32,280
Speaker 3: Yeah, absolutely, you know what I mean.

1465
01:03:32,320 --> 01:03:34,080
Speaker 1: Like, as much as we like to joke about the

1466
01:03:34,200 --> 01:03:37,080
Speaker 1: coke bars, it is true that at a certain point

1467
01:03:37,120 --> 01:03:38,160
Speaker 1: that can't be all like you do.

1468
01:03:38,360 --> 01:03:39,520
Speaker 3: You do have to truly evolve it.

1469
01:03:39,600 --> 01:03:41,560
Speaker 1: Not that they didn't always have other stuff in there,

1470
01:03:41,880 --> 01:03:44,800
Speaker 1: but they've now they've mastered the other stuff. Yeah, Like,

1471
01:03:45,000 --> 01:03:46,920
Speaker 1: the first record on the album is one of the

1472
01:03:47,000 --> 01:03:49,600
Speaker 1: most touching songs I've ever heard anyone.

1473
01:03:49,640 --> 01:03:51,320
Speaker 3: I just hate that they started that. I love that

1474
01:03:51,360 --> 01:03:52,000
Speaker 3: they started with that.

1475
01:03:52,120 --> 01:03:54,800
Speaker 2: That emotion is so heavy. It didn't take me into

1476
01:03:54,880 --> 01:03:58,080
Speaker 2: chains and whips. I'm still crying. I'm still wiping my face.

1477
01:04:00,080 --> 01:04:03,320
Speaker 2: I just can't that that emotion switch to me is

1478
01:04:03,400 --> 01:04:04,480
Speaker 2: just too drastic as well.

1479
01:04:04,520 --> 01:04:07,840
Speaker 3: But I love the record though that's supposed You're supposed

1480
01:04:07,840 --> 01:04:09,680
Speaker 3: to feel that way after a repass. All right, man,

1481
01:04:09,680 --> 01:04:11,280
Speaker 3: we grieve this time to move the fuck on in life,

1482
01:04:11,880 --> 01:04:12,160
Speaker 3: Come on.

1483
01:04:13,520 --> 01:04:15,880
Speaker 1: I guess. But that's just a weird way to start

1484
01:04:15,920 --> 01:04:18,240
Speaker 1: an out, you see, you see it being like a

1485
01:04:18,600 --> 01:04:21,680
Speaker 1: seven eight nine. If it's fourteen tracks, give me that

1486
01:04:21,760 --> 01:04:23,400
Speaker 1: at number twelve, I feel you.

1487
01:04:23,600 --> 01:04:24,000
Speaker 3: I feel you.

1488
01:04:24,240 --> 01:04:24,600
Speaker 4: By the way.

1489
01:04:24,640 --> 01:04:26,520
Speaker 1: See, this is the point we were just talking about,

1490
01:04:26,560 --> 01:04:31,360
Speaker 1: like who does hip hop podcast? We're talking about track listing. Yeah,

1491
01:04:31,520 --> 01:04:34,040
Speaker 1: I mean we do this every episode saying if you're

1492
01:04:34,080 --> 01:04:36,480
Speaker 1: not talking about track listing, yeah, are you talking on

1493
01:04:37,080 --> 01:04:39,960
Speaker 1: what you're hip hop? You? Ever, you don't know the

1494
01:04:40,040 --> 01:04:41,680
Speaker 1: track sequence.

1495
01:04:41,840 --> 01:04:45,400
Speaker 3: I don't sequence in conversation. What are you talking about?

1496
01:04:45,440 --> 01:04:46,400
Speaker 3: What are you even talking If we.

1497
01:04:46,400 --> 01:04:48,360
Speaker 1: Could really get into a conversation about how many people

1498
01:04:48,360 --> 01:04:50,800
Speaker 1: are actually doing the true music conversation and you guys

1499
01:04:50,880 --> 01:04:55,280
Speaker 1: have real music conversation, I respect the hell out of it.

1500
01:04:55,360 --> 01:04:56,880
Speaker 3: I just feel like if you put that at the outro,

1501
01:04:57,320 --> 01:05:00,880
Speaker 3: like you just leave the album, not Troe, not outro

1502
01:05:01,320 --> 01:05:04,040
Speaker 3: in the middle though you would put it twelve eleven

1503
01:05:04,120 --> 01:05:04,959
Speaker 3: twelve right there.

1504
01:05:04,880 --> 01:05:06,800
Speaker 1: Don't make me sad in the middle of it. Let's

1505
01:05:06,880 --> 01:05:08,640
Speaker 1: let's and when I say get this out the way,

1506
01:05:08,640 --> 01:05:09,200
Speaker 1: I don't mean it in.

1507
01:05:09,200 --> 01:05:11,080
Speaker 3: A bad way. I think that song should win a Grammy.

1508
01:05:11,480 --> 01:05:13,320
Speaker 3: But yeah, let's start this way. And I hate my

1509
01:05:13,400 --> 01:05:15,320
Speaker 3: brother talking about their parents passing. And then let's get

1510
01:05:15,320 --> 01:05:15,640
Speaker 3: to the ship.

1511
01:05:15,680 --> 01:05:17,800
Speaker 2: I hated that Stove God didn't have a verse on

1512
01:05:17,920 --> 01:05:20,600
Speaker 2: that record, but the hook is amazing.

1513
01:05:20,760 --> 01:05:23,520
Speaker 3: But the hook is basically a verse. It's so close

1514
01:05:23,560 --> 01:05:25,720
Speaker 3: to him because I know what he can do with

1515
01:05:25,840 --> 01:05:29,880
Speaker 3: that much space. The truth so so and we are you.

1516
01:05:29,920 --> 01:05:34,680
Speaker 1: And I are clearly part of the Stove God contingency. Absolutely,

1517
01:05:34,840 --> 01:05:38,120
Speaker 1: I'm a huge fan as well. The verse would have

1518
01:05:38,160 --> 01:05:40,600
Speaker 1: been amazing and I had the same thought. But for

1519
01:05:41,040 --> 01:05:42,840
Speaker 1: a lot of people, and let's be honest, most people

1520
01:05:42,920 --> 01:05:45,160
Speaker 1: came to that. I don't know who stove God is, right,

1521
01:05:45,920 --> 01:05:49,800
Speaker 1: I think they came away more familiar with him because

1522
01:05:49,800 --> 01:05:52,640
Speaker 1: he's the hook one verse. It's cool because he can

1523
01:05:52,720 --> 01:05:55,840
Speaker 1: stunt on you. Yeah, but the hook is what you're saying,

1524
01:05:56,240 --> 01:05:58,800
Speaker 1: like they got. They probably come away feeling more connected

1525
01:05:58,840 --> 01:05:59,439
Speaker 1: to stove God.

1526
01:06:00,240 --> 01:06:02,720
Speaker 3: He did the when we were talking, when I said that,

1527
01:06:02,800 --> 01:06:04,840
Speaker 3: I felt like Stove Off the last three West Side

1528
01:06:04,880 --> 01:06:07,720
Speaker 3: projects has turned into like the Griselda and Nate Dog,

1529
01:06:08,440 --> 01:06:11,200
Speaker 3: Like his hooks on all of West projects, like those

1530
01:06:11,240 --> 01:06:14,040
Speaker 3: are the standouts. Like his melodic ship is crazy. But

1531
01:06:14,120 --> 01:06:17,360
Speaker 3: I'm still with you. He need he's the one guy politics. Also,

1532
01:06:17,440 --> 01:06:20,640
Speaker 3: you don't know his situation. I get it, but he's here.

1533
01:06:20,760 --> 01:06:23,440
Speaker 2: He's one of the guys that I'm waiting to sit

1534
01:06:23,480 --> 01:06:25,920
Speaker 2: and talk to. He's I got a lot of questions.

1535
01:06:26,160 --> 01:06:27,880
Speaker 4: Why were you just fascinated with him as a as

1536
01:06:27,880 --> 01:06:28,760
Speaker 4: an MC oh No, I.

1537
01:06:28,760 --> 01:06:30,040
Speaker 1: Mean that's the easy part.

1538
01:06:30,120 --> 01:06:32,400
Speaker 2: But there's a lot of things around him as an

1539
01:06:32,520 --> 01:06:34,920
Speaker 2: artist that I that I know and that I look

1540
01:06:34,960 --> 01:06:37,440
Speaker 2: at and I'm just like, yo, what's going on?

1541
01:06:37,680 --> 01:06:37,800
Speaker 1: Man?

1542
01:06:38,240 --> 01:06:39,960
Speaker 4: He's had an interesting journey to getting here too.

1543
01:06:40,960 --> 01:06:43,560
Speaker 3: That the journey is like, fam, what is going, what's

1544
01:06:43,600 --> 01:06:44,160
Speaker 3: what's what's up?

1545
01:06:44,280 --> 01:06:46,439
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think I was first. I think the first

1546
01:06:46,480 --> 01:06:51,160
Speaker 1: time I ever heard stove God Buster sent me the

1547
01:06:51,280 --> 01:06:54,600
Speaker 1: link to stove God makes he was with rocking Everybody.

1548
01:06:54,760 --> 01:06:57,920
Speaker 1: That was the first time that I heard him. He

1549
01:06:58,080 --> 01:07:01,000
Speaker 1: sent me like stove god and pray at the same time.

1550
01:07:01,120 --> 01:07:03,560
Speaker 3: Okay, that's sound right, Yeah, that's what I Because the

1551
01:07:03,640 --> 01:07:07,520
Speaker 3: reasonable Drought was it was twenty twenty. Yeah, it came out.

1552
01:07:07,600 --> 01:07:10,120
Speaker 2: That came out I think a week after we went

1553
01:07:10,160 --> 01:07:13,320
Speaker 2: on Lockdown twenty six or twenty seven. Yeah, and we

1554
01:07:13,400 --> 01:07:16,560
Speaker 2: went on Lockdown to fifteenth markteen something like that. No,

1555
01:07:16,680 --> 01:07:18,439
Speaker 2: he's he's he's fascinating, He's dope.

1556
01:07:18,560 --> 01:07:19,320
Speaker 3: No, I love him.

1557
01:07:19,320 --> 01:07:22,040
Speaker 2: I just I just his journey has been incredible. But

1558
01:07:22,200 --> 01:07:25,760
Speaker 2: there's a lot of things, and you know, I want

1559
01:07:25,800 --> 01:07:28,000
Speaker 2: to know about the dynamic between everybody.

1560
01:07:28,040 --> 01:07:30,920
Speaker 3: By the way, so to me, is the one out

1561
01:07:30,960 --> 01:07:33,200
Speaker 3: of that that entire I don't want to call it

1562
01:07:33,200 --> 01:07:35,160
Speaker 3: the Gridzelda scene because it's more than just that. He's

1563
01:07:35,200 --> 01:07:36,840
Speaker 3: the one that I think can actually break out and

1564
01:07:36,920 --> 01:07:39,880
Speaker 3: be a superstar. I know that sounds insane for sty

1565
01:07:39,920 --> 01:07:42,919
Speaker 3: Basically that makes sense, Like I really think he would

1566
01:07:42,960 --> 01:07:46,520
Speaker 3: push the boundaries of that genre and be the first superstar.

1567
01:07:46,960 --> 01:07:47,520
Speaker 3: I think.

1568
01:07:49,400 --> 01:07:51,880
Speaker 1: Superstar. That's a tough word. Superstar is a lot, that's

1569
01:07:51,920 --> 01:07:54,040
Speaker 1: a lofty Where do we start the line at superstar?

1570
01:07:54,240 --> 01:07:56,560
Speaker 3: Well, don't get me started, because I actually contradicted myself

1571
01:07:57,200 --> 01:07:59,600
Speaker 3: because I don't think Chris Rock is a superstar. But yeah,

1572
01:08:00,000 --> 01:08:01,880
Speaker 3: and I remember that is that.

1573
01:08:06,120 --> 01:08:08,120
Speaker 4: It was a tough moment, but and he was like

1574
01:08:08,240 --> 01:08:10,360
Speaker 4: standing on it, hold on, there was part of it

1575
01:08:10,440 --> 01:08:11,080
Speaker 4: I understood.

1576
01:08:11,600 --> 01:08:12,680
Speaker 3: What did you understand?

1577
01:08:12,720 --> 01:08:14,760
Speaker 4: Didn't he say something like if you saw him, you

1578
01:08:14,800 --> 01:08:16,960
Speaker 4: wouldn't be like, oh my god, what.

1579
01:08:17,040 --> 01:08:19,120
Speaker 3: Was the what was the CROs There was a couple

1580
01:08:19,120 --> 01:08:21,120
Speaker 3: of different points, but one of them being that like

1581
01:08:21,760 --> 01:08:24,680
Speaker 3: the pandemonium And we saw him and added him to

1582
01:08:24,760 --> 01:08:27,800
Speaker 3: one of our tour uh videos because he just happened

1583
01:08:27,800 --> 01:08:28,840
Speaker 3: to be standing right outside there.

1584
01:08:29,720 --> 01:08:34,040
Speaker 1: He carries himself in an unsuperstar like way. I will

1585
01:08:34,080 --> 01:08:39,280
Speaker 1: say that like Chappelle, Superstar gives when he shows up.

1586
01:08:39,360 --> 01:08:39,720
Speaker 3: It's like.

1587
01:08:41,320 --> 01:08:44,240
Speaker 1: Like you can see the hubbub around when Chappelle walks

1588
01:08:44,280 --> 01:08:47,519
Speaker 1: into a place. I don't think Chris does that. But

1589
01:08:48,520 --> 01:08:50,400
Speaker 1: he's still a super like. I still think Chris Rocks

1590
01:08:50,479 --> 01:08:53,559
Speaker 1: the comedy. Yes, he is in comedy. I don't think

1591
01:08:53,640 --> 01:08:56,800
Speaker 1: Chris he was a K lister in.

1592
01:08:56,880 --> 01:08:58,920
Speaker 3: The world comedy. Are you about to tell me? No,

1593
01:08:59,240 --> 01:09:03,000
Speaker 3: Chris Rock is a superstarring comedy. Okay, he's the status

1594
01:09:03,120 --> 01:09:06,160
Speaker 3: quote like he's he's he's a list for sure. I'm saying,

1595
01:09:07,320 --> 01:09:09,960
Speaker 3: put Tom Cruise and Chris Rock they're in the same sentence. No,

1596
01:09:10,120 --> 01:09:11,519
Speaker 3: what's wrong with being a B lister? Okay?

1597
01:09:11,560 --> 01:09:13,320
Speaker 1: But here's Oh, that was what it came down to.

1598
01:09:13,560 --> 01:09:15,839
Speaker 1: Usually the word be but B list has a feeling

1599
01:09:15,920 --> 01:09:20,759
Speaker 1: connoted B list, B list. He's never you can't host

1600
01:09:21,160 --> 01:09:23,280
Speaker 1: the fucking Oscars in B B list?

1601
01:09:23,360 --> 01:09:26,559
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think B list is tough. Okay, So that's

1602
01:09:26,640 --> 01:09:29,240
Speaker 3: that's okay. So because Shane Gillis hosted the s p's,

1603
01:09:29,280 --> 01:09:30,280
Speaker 3: he's in Assassin.

1604
01:09:31,520 --> 01:09:32,480
Speaker 1: Is not the Oscars.

1605
01:09:34,000 --> 01:09:35,840
Speaker 4: I love esp if I told you guys, I love ESPN,

1606
01:09:36,120 --> 01:09:37,799
Speaker 4: absolutely love your company.

1607
01:09:39,000 --> 01:09:39,519
Speaker 3: The Oscars.

1608
01:09:41,080 --> 01:09:43,760
Speaker 1: Shane though, that was fucking hilarious. Why I have I've

1609
01:09:43,760 --> 01:09:46,720
Speaker 1: had just a lot of mixed feelings about Shane about

1610
01:09:47,080 --> 01:09:47,320
Speaker 1: he was.

1611
01:09:47,400 --> 01:09:48,200
Speaker 3: It wasn't hilarious.

1612
01:09:48,360 --> 01:09:50,599
Speaker 4: It had it had good moments, good moment.

1613
01:09:50,640 --> 01:09:54,160
Speaker 3: I thought the awkwardness and the bombs made it even funnier.

1614
01:09:54,520 --> 01:09:58,240
Speaker 1: So some sometimes I agree. What annoyed me was people,

1615
01:09:58,280 --> 01:10:03,559
Speaker 1: you can't tell me someone killed. Don't say they killed.

1616
01:10:04,479 --> 01:10:07,000
Speaker 1: If there's not great laughter in the room, that's not killing.

1617
01:10:07,560 --> 01:10:10,360
Speaker 1: It might be innovative and interesting and brilliant. And it

1618
01:10:10,439 --> 01:10:14,800
Speaker 1: went over their heads. You can't say they killed a

1619
01:10:15,360 --> 01:10:17,320
Speaker 1: drop in the back, even if it's awkward. It's like,

1620
01:10:17,479 --> 01:10:19,799
Speaker 1: even if it was intentionally awkward, he was paying homage

1621
01:10:19,840 --> 01:10:23,240
Speaker 1: to Norm MacDonald. That's great, But like at the time,

1622
01:10:23,720 --> 01:10:26,559
Speaker 1: just because other comedians all like love what Norm did,

1623
01:10:26,880 --> 01:10:29,559
Speaker 1: that doesn't mean he killed at the time. God the dead, right,

1624
01:10:30,120 --> 01:10:33,640
Speaker 1: it's interesting, but it's not killing. Superstar A List killed. Yes,

1625
01:10:33,680 --> 01:10:36,960
Speaker 1: I would not say Shangelis killed. Definitely, it was very funny. Oh,

1626
01:10:36,960 --> 01:10:39,000
Speaker 1: I thought it was hilarious, but no, he did not kill.

1627
01:10:39,520 --> 01:10:43,160
Speaker 3: My pro kill is everything he did, plus everyone falling

1628
01:10:43,160 --> 01:10:45,080
Speaker 3: out of their seats laughing, so exactly. So.

1629
01:10:45,320 --> 01:10:50,280
Speaker 1: So shange Gellis to me is super talented and I

1630
01:10:50,479 --> 01:10:53,760
Speaker 1: see why people really like him. Okay, like I do

1631
01:10:53,960 --> 01:10:56,599
Speaker 1: like he He has moments and I think are really funny.

1632
01:10:56,680 --> 01:11:01,560
Speaker 1: His SNL hosting the sketches he's in like shangelist is furthermore,

1633
01:11:03,080 --> 01:11:05,240
Speaker 1: because what this is gonna be relevant with what I

1634
01:11:05,280 --> 01:11:07,720
Speaker 1: say afterwards. I think he seems like a good dude, right,

1635
01:11:07,800 --> 01:11:08,040
Speaker 1: I'm not.

1636
01:11:08,160 --> 01:11:08,400
Speaker 3: I'm not.

1637
01:11:08,479 --> 01:11:10,720
Speaker 4: I don't think there's some air that I don't like

1638
01:11:10,800 --> 01:11:11,280
Speaker 4: about him.

1639
01:11:12,080 --> 01:11:14,280
Speaker 3: However, I do.

1640
01:11:14,479 --> 01:11:18,439
Speaker 1: Think he is among the comedians who a lot of

1641
01:11:18,520 --> 01:11:22,040
Speaker 1: their ship that they're doing right now is the funny

1642
01:11:22,120 --> 01:11:24,679
Speaker 1: comes second after watch me push this boundary.

1643
01:11:25,880 --> 01:11:27,439
Speaker 3: And I don't think that at all of it. And

1644
01:11:27,640 --> 01:11:29,600
Speaker 3: I think the comedians he hangs out with, Yes, but

1645
01:11:29,640 --> 01:11:30,960
Speaker 3: I don't think that's shaying it at all. But that

1646
01:11:31,160 --> 01:11:32,000
Speaker 3: was that night, bro.

1647
01:11:32,600 --> 01:11:35,920
Speaker 1: That was especially in the boundaries, Oh my, there was

1648
01:11:36,080 --> 01:11:39,280
Speaker 1: there was a bunch the are you gonna tell me that?

1649
01:11:39,360 --> 01:11:42,960
Speaker 1: Saying that Karl Anthony Towns is here, Hey girl is

1650
01:11:43,040 --> 01:11:45,559
Speaker 1: like a great joke, like I left, well you did,

1651
01:11:45,760 --> 01:11:46,519
Speaker 1: you're a ship talker.

1652
01:11:46,640 --> 01:11:48,559
Speaker 4: I'm not saying like there's someone said on the corner

1653
01:11:48,640 --> 01:11:49,280
Speaker 4: we laugh at it.

1654
01:11:51,520 --> 01:11:52,840
Speaker 1: No, No, it's not prior. I'll get that.

1655
01:11:53,160 --> 01:11:55,840
Speaker 3: But also it's the spis where No, I didn't want

1656
01:11:55,920 --> 01:12:01,120
Speaker 3: him to give me a full fucking one hour special

1657
01:12:01,200 --> 01:12:03,880
Speaker 3: type of bit, like the point of hosting a show

1658
01:12:03,960 --> 01:12:06,320
Speaker 3: is quick quick hits, quick punch lines of who's in

1659
01:12:06,479 --> 01:12:09,479
Speaker 3: the crowd. I didn't need him to give me a

1660
01:12:09,600 --> 01:12:13,160
Speaker 3: Richard pryor fucking cooking free based cocaine.

1661
01:12:13,360 --> 01:12:15,080
Speaker 4: No, no, no, no, and for fair enough, fair enough.

1662
01:12:15,160 --> 01:12:19,120
Speaker 1: Right. This is I want everyone to bear in mind.

1663
01:12:19,560 --> 01:12:22,240
Speaker 1: This involves complex thought and nuanced so this is a

1664
01:12:22,400 --> 01:12:23,360
Speaker 1: very internet.

1665
01:12:24,800 --> 01:12:25,080
Speaker 3: Again.

1666
01:12:25,200 --> 01:12:26,920
Speaker 1: I think he's a good dude. I don't think his

1667
01:12:27,080 --> 01:12:31,320
Speaker 1: intention is bad, but I think a lot of the like,

1668
01:12:31,520 --> 01:12:33,760
Speaker 1: oh my god, I'm a white guy and I'm going

1669
01:12:33,840 --> 01:12:37,120
Speaker 1: to say this joke about black people. While we might

1670
01:12:37,280 --> 01:12:40,639
Speaker 1: think it's funny and laugh because it's a good joke

1671
01:12:40,680 --> 01:12:41,439
Speaker 1: and we appreciate it.

1672
01:12:41,960 --> 01:12:44,680
Speaker 4: That you cannot deny a certain part of it.

1673
01:12:44,800 --> 01:12:48,280
Speaker 1: He knows its appealing to a certain crowd that is

1674
01:12:48,520 --> 01:12:51,080
Speaker 1: giddy to see a white man make jokes about black

1675
01:12:51,080 --> 01:12:54,680
Speaker 1: people in twenty twenty five. That edge we're fighting back

1676
01:12:54,720 --> 01:12:58,360
Speaker 1: against the wokeness. It's baked in there, and he knows

1677
01:12:58,439 --> 01:13:01,479
Speaker 1: it's working. I'm saying it makes it all not funny.

1678
01:13:01,600 --> 01:13:04,760
Speaker 1: I'm not saying I'm offended by it. I'm just saying

1679
01:13:05,200 --> 01:13:07,759
Speaker 1: I'm just saying I see it, and I see everyone

1680
01:13:07,880 --> 01:13:10,439
Speaker 1: doing it, like, oh my god, look, can you believe

1681
01:13:10,479 --> 01:13:12,800
Speaker 1: I'm willing to say now, listen, Compared to the other

1682
01:13:12,880 --> 01:13:15,280
Speaker 1: ones out there, the hinge lifts, the Schultz is the bluff.

1683
01:13:15,640 --> 01:13:18,679
Speaker 1: He's way more talented, way funnier, and I think could

1684
01:13:18,680 --> 01:13:19,639
Speaker 1: probably have an entire career.

1685
01:13:19,680 --> 01:13:21,679
Speaker 4: He doesn't do it at all, but he is doing

1686
01:13:21,760 --> 01:13:22,920
Speaker 4: it and it's winning for that.

1687
01:13:23,080 --> 01:13:25,679
Speaker 3: So I think that's authentic to Shane, whereas like maybe

1688
01:13:25,720 --> 01:13:29,439
Speaker 3: a Ari Shaffir will sit and think, like, what can

1689
01:13:29,520 --> 01:13:31,639
Speaker 3: I do that would offend a person at this exact

1690
01:13:31,720 --> 01:13:34,639
Speaker 3: time of who should be attacked? That is being protected?

1691
01:13:34,680 --> 01:13:35,479
Speaker 4: Great, It is more.

1692
01:13:35,920 --> 01:13:36,040
Speaker 1: I know.

1693
01:13:36,120 --> 01:13:39,519
Speaker 3: I really think Shane is just just a big white

1694
01:13:39,560 --> 01:13:41,960
Speaker 3: guy from Pennsylvania and this is exactly how he thinks,

1695
01:13:41,960 --> 01:13:44,400
Speaker 3: and I think he balances it perfectly. I don't think

1696
01:13:44,479 --> 01:13:47,080
Speaker 3: he he picks a specific group. I think he no,

1697
01:13:47,240 --> 01:13:49,160
Speaker 3: I goes that everybody and does it in a pretty

1698
01:13:49,240 --> 01:13:53,920
Speaker 3: tasteful ways, even when he calls somebody gay like it's funny,

1699
01:13:54,960 --> 01:13:58,240
Speaker 3: but it has some tasteful and there's a background behind it.

1700
01:13:58,360 --> 01:13:59,639
Speaker 3: More or less. I just I guess.

1701
01:13:59,680 --> 01:14:01,880
Speaker 1: I guess my feeling isn't Again, I know when people

1702
01:14:01,920 --> 01:14:03,960
Speaker 1: hear this, they're just gonna call me a fucking snowflake

1703
01:14:04,080 --> 01:14:05,320
Speaker 1: and I can't take a joke.

1704
01:14:05,360 --> 01:14:07,719
Speaker 3: I don't think anything's funny. All bullshit.

1705
01:14:08,560 --> 01:14:12,080
Speaker 1: It's it's a it's a it's a false narrative that

1706
01:14:12,200 --> 01:14:14,760
Speaker 1: the only way to be edgy is to be white

1707
01:14:14,880 --> 01:14:16,679
Speaker 1: and make jokes about minority groups.

1708
01:14:16,720 --> 01:14:18,360
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying, Like, I agree with that.

1709
01:14:18,520 --> 01:14:20,639
Speaker 1: You would say, Shane, is that Go watch Ricky Gervasa

1710
01:14:20,680 --> 01:14:23,960
Speaker 1: the Golden Globes five years ago. We can talk about. Yeah,

1711
01:14:24,280 --> 01:14:25,600
Speaker 1: but no one, but no one gets fans out of

1712
01:14:25,640 --> 01:14:27,680
Speaker 1: shape about that because he wasn't a white guy with

1713
01:14:27,800 --> 01:14:30,240
Speaker 1: the audacity to make jokes about black people or gay people.

1714
01:14:30,640 --> 01:14:32,479
Speaker 1: They might be in there, but that wasn't what it

1715
01:14:32,560 --> 01:14:35,439
Speaker 1: was aimed at. His real aim was knocking people in

1716
01:14:35,520 --> 01:14:38,040
Speaker 1: Hollywood peg and talking about the fucking.

1717
01:14:37,800 --> 01:14:39,240
Speaker 4: Epstein and Weinstein ship.

1718
01:14:39,520 --> 01:14:42,120
Speaker 1: So like, no one talks about that because that doesn't

1719
01:14:42,200 --> 01:14:44,240
Speaker 1: get white Middle America going.

1720
01:14:45,280 --> 01:14:47,240
Speaker 3: Shane made a Epstein joke.

1721
01:14:47,880 --> 01:14:49,080
Speaker 1: He did, it was fair and that that was a

1722
01:14:49,120 --> 01:14:51,120
Speaker 1: funny one that got crickets. And now listen, part of

1723
01:14:51,160 --> 01:14:53,120
Speaker 1: that is, let's be honest, guys. Athletes don't all have

1724
01:14:53,240 --> 01:14:56,280
Speaker 1: the best sense of humor. They don't. I'm sorry. It's

1725
01:14:56,280 --> 01:14:59,360
Speaker 1: a tough athletes. Athletes is very rarely no more than

1726
01:14:59,439 --> 01:15:00,639
Speaker 1: anything else their sports.

1727
01:15:00,720 --> 01:15:02,719
Speaker 4: So like when it kid starts to get kookie, they don't.

1728
01:15:02,520 --> 01:15:03,200
Speaker 1: Even know where to go.

1729
01:15:03,960 --> 01:15:05,480
Speaker 3: Not until they start to retire.

1730
01:15:05,200 --> 01:15:07,080
Speaker 2: Do they get into other things, other areas. But when

1731
01:15:07,240 --> 01:15:10,040
Speaker 2: when they're young and entrenched in their sport, they don't.

1732
01:15:10,160 --> 01:15:11,400
Speaker 3: Everybody as shieldburg arenas.

1733
01:15:11,560 --> 01:15:13,799
Speaker 1: No, that's why I love That's why I got into wrestling,

1734
01:15:13,840 --> 01:15:15,599
Speaker 1: frankly because athletes.

1735
01:15:15,680 --> 01:15:18,799
Speaker 4: I found athletes to be often boring to interview.

1736
01:15:19,479 --> 01:15:23,280
Speaker 1: And then wrestlers are amazing because they're athletic, but they're

1737
01:15:23,280 --> 01:15:26,080
Speaker 1: also actors and they're also amazing, so they're crazy. They

1738
01:15:26,600 --> 01:15:29,320
Speaker 1: they want to perform. They they have a lot more

1739
01:15:29,360 --> 01:15:31,320
Speaker 1: to give you than just like I'm really good at ball.

1740
01:15:32,080 --> 01:15:35,959
Speaker 3: Wrestlers have to be athletic and and entertaining and entertaining athletes.

1741
01:15:36,439 --> 01:15:36,880
Speaker 3: You could be the.

1742
01:15:38,640 --> 01:15:40,639
Speaker 1: Like Kawhi Leonard comes to sit right here for two

1743
01:15:40,720 --> 01:15:44,160
Speaker 1: hours and not say anything and he still can go

1744
01:15:44,200 --> 01:15:45,240
Speaker 1: out and be the best in the world.

1745
01:15:45,320 --> 01:15:48,400
Speaker 3: Absolutely, you can't do that if you're a wrestler. No discussion.

1746
01:15:48,479 --> 01:15:51,680
Speaker 3: How do wrestling scripts like come about? How do they

1747
01:15:51,800 --> 01:15:53,920
Speaker 3: decide like who is going to be the champ?

1748
01:15:54,600 --> 01:15:56,280
Speaker 1: Well, It's funny you asked that because they literally just

1749
01:15:56,360 --> 01:15:59,400
Speaker 1: dropped the show two days ago called Unreal, where they're

1750
01:16:00,200 --> 01:16:02,280
Speaker 1: peeling back the curtain for the first like truly peeling

1751
01:16:02,360 --> 01:16:06,639
Speaker 1: back for the first time. I mean, it's it's it's

1752
01:16:06,680 --> 01:16:09,719
Speaker 1: a process. It's a writing team. I mean it starts

1753
01:16:09,760 --> 01:16:14,439
Speaker 1: with Triple H essentially as the as the chief of content,

1754
01:16:14,479 --> 01:16:16,479
Speaker 1: the chief content officer. But then after that it's a

1755
01:16:16,520 --> 01:16:20,559
Speaker 1: writing team and then producers and the wrestlers, and it's

1756
01:16:20,640 --> 01:16:21,879
Speaker 1: a long process.

1757
01:16:22,040 --> 01:16:24,519
Speaker 3: Is it like Hollywood where like, all right, somebody may

1758
01:16:24,560 --> 01:16:26,960
Speaker 3: be talented, they get one shot, and if they do

1759
01:16:27,120 --> 01:16:29,040
Speaker 3: really well at that, all right, let's put them in

1760
01:16:29,120 --> 01:16:31,920
Speaker 3: more movies for sure? Like that, Okay, yes, it's I'm

1761
01:16:31,920 --> 01:16:33,800
Speaker 3: really sure if they just pick somebody like all right,

1762
01:16:33,880 --> 01:16:35,799
Speaker 3: this is gonna be our guy.

1763
01:16:36,200 --> 01:16:39,799
Speaker 4: More often than not, something organically happens.

1764
01:16:39,840 --> 01:16:42,160
Speaker 3: First. They have a moment like that in the show

1765
01:16:42,320 --> 01:16:44,160
Speaker 3: that just aired where they go up to ja Uso.

1766
01:16:44,240 --> 01:16:46,479
Speaker 1: Triple H goes to jay us and is like, hey,

1767
01:16:47,240 --> 01:16:50,040
Speaker 1: you're catching fire right now, and Taosa is like uh,

1768
01:16:50,520 --> 01:16:53,400
Speaker 1: and he's like, this is right before the Royal Rumble, which,

1769
01:16:53,720 --> 01:16:55,759
Speaker 1: for people who don't know the Royal Rumbles Big Battle

1770
01:16:55,800 --> 01:16:58,000
Speaker 1: roy with everybody in it. Whoever wins gets a match

1771
01:16:58,040 --> 01:17:01,280
Speaker 1: of WrestleMania for the title. MM the Week of Wrestling

1772
01:17:01,320 --> 01:17:03,600
Speaker 1: the Week the Week of the Royal Rumble, Triple H

1773
01:17:03,720 --> 01:17:06,360
Speaker 1: goes to jay Uso and is like, we're about to

1774
01:17:06,360 --> 01:17:08,880
Speaker 1: put the rocket on your back, and James was like,

1775
01:17:08,920 --> 01:17:10,200
Speaker 1: all right, and he's.

1776
01:17:10,120 --> 01:17:13,560
Speaker 3: Like everything you've ever wanted. He doesn't say what it is,

1777
01:17:13,800 --> 01:17:16,280
Speaker 3: he just says everything you ever wanted? Are you ready?

1778
01:17:17,080 --> 01:17:18,599
Speaker 4: You can't if I put the rocket on your back,

1779
01:17:18,640 --> 01:17:19,720
Speaker 4: you cannot fumble the ball.

1780
01:17:19,800 --> 01:17:22,080
Speaker 3: It's it's time. And James was just like, I got you,

1781
01:17:22,240 --> 01:17:23,880
Speaker 3: I got you. They dap and walk away.

1782
01:17:24,000 --> 01:17:26,000
Speaker 1: He never says you're winning the Royal Rumble. He never

1783
01:17:26,040 --> 01:17:27,920
Speaker 1: says you're going on to win the title, but it's

1784
01:17:28,000 --> 01:17:30,000
Speaker 1: clear that moment, it's like, are you ready for it?

1785
01:17:30,120 --> 01:17:34,360
Speaker 3: That's how YouTube conspiracy theorists think, the Illuminati conversation, are

1786
01:17:34,400 --> 01:17:51,759
Speaker 3: you back? What happens in the music industry so into wrestling.

1787
01:17:51,800 --> 01:17:54,880
Speaker 2: We lost the iconic Whole Colgan this this past week,

1788
01:17:56,479 --> 01:17:58,479
Speaker 2: and you know, naturally people went online and brought up

1789
01:17:58,520 --> 01:18:00,800
Speaker 2: the whole whole Colgan is a racist and the things

1790
01:18:00,840 --> 01:18:03,320
Speaker 2: he said in regards to who he would want his

1791
01:18:03,439 --> 01:18:07,639
Speaker 2: daughter to date. What is your position on that thought

1792
01:18:07,680 --> 01:18:10,880
Speaker 2: that Hugan should white women date black men? No?

1793
01:18:10,920 --> 01:18:11,960
Speaker 1: No, no, But here's why.

1794
01:18:12,040 --> 01:18:13,840
Speaker 2: Here's why I ask you because I saw I saw

1795
01:18:13,840 --> 01:18:17,439
Speaker 2: an interesting I saw an interesting clip of Booker T. Yeah,

1796
01:18:18,200 --> 01:18:21,439
Speaker 2: and somebody asked him if they felt if he felt

1797
01:18:21,479 --> 01:18:25,360
Speaker 2: like Booker T the wrestler, and if somebody asked him

1798
01:18:25,479 --> 01:18:29,200
Speaker 2: if he felt like Hul Colgan was a racist. And

1799
01:18:30,400 --> 01:18:32,400
Speaker 2: if people don't know Booker t all of he's probably

1800
01:18:32,640 --> 01:18:36,920
Speaker 2: Wrestling Hall of Fame, legendary wrestler, sixty year old black

1801
01:18:37,000 --> 01:18:37,799
Speaker 2: man from Louisiana.

1802
01:18:37,960 --> 01:18:38,920
Speaker 3: Bout my dude.

1803
01:18:39,600 --> 01:18:41,479
Speaker 1: Let's just it's just fair to say he may.

1804
01:18:41,439 --> 01:18:45,040
Speaker 3: Have experienced racism at some point in his life. I guess.

1805
01:18:45,120 --> 01:18:47,400
Speaker 2: So, if somebody's talking to Booker Ter about hul Cogan

1806
01:18:47,439 --> 01:18:49,200
Speaker 2: and do they think he's a racist, I'm gonna listen

1807
01:18:49,280 --> 01:18:51,960
Speaker 2: because this is Booker T who spent who worked with him,

1808
01:18:52,880 --> 01:18:57,720
Speaker 2: personal time around him for years, and the story that

1809
01:18:57,800 --> 01:19:00,200
Speaker 2: he gave about Hulk Hogan and he was like, you know,

1810
01:19:00,880 --> 01:19:02,800
Speaker 2: he may have used the word around me one time,

1811
01:19:02,840 --> 01:19:05,160
Speaker 2: but he said, but he said Hogan used it because

1812
01:19:05,680 --> 01:19:08,360
Speaker 2: they were using it with each other and he looked

1813
01:19:08,400 --> 01:19:10,479
Speaker 2: at each other like it wasn't a color thing.

1814
01:19:10,560 --> 01:19:11,400
Speaker 1: They were all brothers.

1815
01:19:11,880 --> 01:19:15,840
Speaker 2: And he said, Holgan, somebody I think macho man asked him, Hogan,

1816
01:19:15,880 --> 01:19:18,960
Speaker 2: do you do you think do you think you're or

1817
01:19:19,000 --> 01:19:20,479
Speaker 2: do you think something like that? They were at the

1818
01:19:20,520 --> 01:19:23,680
Speaker 2: cafeteria of eating and he was like, well, if I am,

1819
01:19:23,720 --> 01:19:26,559
Speaker 2: I'm a cool like that. Like it was like they

1820
01:19:26,600 --> 01:19:29,760
Speaker 2: didn't the word didn't even mean anything because he knows

1821
01:19:29,800 --> 01:19:31,640
Speaker 2: the man. The priest has said things that Hogan did

1822
01:19:31,680 --> 01:19:34,080
Speaker 2: for him on a personal level, how he was with

1823
01:19:34,160 --> 01:19:36,400
Speaker 2: his family and things like the man at Hulk Hogan

1824
01:19:36,560 --> 01:19:39,320
Speaker 2: was He said, absolutely, I don't think Hulk Hogan was

1825
01:19:39,320 --> 01:19:39,759
Speaker 2: a racist.

1826
01:19:40,280 --> 01:19:42,360
Speaker 3: Was that that was this week after he passed.

1827
01:19:42,560 --> 01:19:44,760
Speaker 2: This was after I heard it after he passed off,

1828
01:19:44,840 --> 01:19:46,320
Speaker 2: and he was kind of I think he was speaking

1829
01:19:46,360 --> 01:19:47,320
Speaker 2: as if Holgan had passed.

1830
01:19:47,520 --> 01:19:49,519
Speaker 1: So this was a recent interview.

1831
01:19:49,600 --> 01:19:52,640
Speaker 2: So I just thought that that was an interesting perspective

1832
01:19:52,680 --> 01:19:56,960
Speaker 2: because again, here's somebody who knows this man, who knew

1833
01:19:57,120 --> 01:19:59,560
Speaker 2: the Hulk Hogan, the man, not the icon in the

1834
01:19:59,600 --> 01:20:02,679
Speaker 2: wrestler knew and behind the scenes away from the cameras.

1835
01:20:03,320 --> 01:20:06,839
Speaker 2: To me, that's what really speaks to a person's class

1836
01:20:06,960 --> 01:20:09,240
Speaker 2: personality and things like that, like, Okay, if I hear

1837
01:20:09,280 --> 01:20:11,280
Speaker 2: a clip of you saying I don't want my daughter

1838
01:20:11,439 --> 01:20:13,479
Speaker 2: day to know, No, if she does, you got to

1839
01:20:13,479 --> 01:20:16,360
Speaker 2: be eight foot tall, one hundred million dollars whatever, whatever.

1840
01:20:15,920 --> 01:20:18,160
Speaker 3: The fuck he's like when he wasn't in the cafeteria

1841
01:20:18,240 --> 01:20:19,560
Speaker 3: with the fellas, No he was not.

1842
01:20:19,760 --> 01:20:22,200
Speaker 1: But what I'm saying is away from away from that.

1843
01:20:22,360 --> 01:20:26,599
Speaker 2: Again, his book of t Black Man from Louisiana spend

1844
01:20:26,680 --> 01:20:29,519
Speaker 2: way more personal time around Hogan, who has his perspective like, no,

1845
01:20:29,680 --> 01:20:30,240
Speaker 2: I don't think.

1846
01:20:30,120 --> 01:20:33,240
Speaker 1: Ho Cogan was a racist, So so it's it's it's

1847
01:20:33,320 --> 01:20:37,120
Speaker 1: a very it's a super interesting subject. Again, not one

1848
01:20:37,200 --> 01:20:40,240
Speaker 1: that lends itself to you know, short clips on the internet.

1849
01:20:42,200 --> 01:20:48,200
Speaker 1: I I think that the Hogan tape was about as

1850
01:20:48,280 --> 01:20:51,120
Speaker 1: bad a tape as I've ever heard released of anyone.

1851
01:20:54,400 --> 01:20:56,439
Speaker 1: Not the not the the not the sex DA say

1852
01:20:56,439 --> 01:20:59,559
Speaker 1: it was worse. That was the really offensive party. My man,

1853
01:20:59,600 --> 01:21:02,200
Speaker 1: you're gonna anyways, I mean, I got in trouble.

1854
01:21:02,200 --> 01:21:03,160
Speaker 3: Everyone's going through a tough time.

1855
01:21:03,280 --> 01:21:10,799
Speaker 4: Yeah, but the things that are said on it certainly

1856
01:21:11,479 --> 01:21:11,840
Speaker 4: hurt me.

1857
01:21:12,520 --> 01:21:16,400
Speaker 1: And I'm just a white guy who is offended by racism, right,

1858
01:21:16,479 --> 01:21:18,760
Speaker 1: I'm obviously not a black person. I have a lot

1859
01:21:18,840 --> 01:21:21,400
Speaker 1: of black friends who love wrestling who, like I can

1860
01:21:21,479 --> 01:21:25,800
Speaker 1: tell you right now, it really hurt them, like in

1861
01:21:25,880 --> 01:21:30,439
Speaker 1: a long term, fucked up their childhood. I have so

1862
01:21:30,560 --> 01:21:34,240
Speaker 1: many positive thoughts about this person. The words were so

1863
01:21:34,520 --> 01:21:39,080
Speaker 1: hurtful and they and I think all of us who

1864
01:21:39,200 --> 01:21:43,080
Speaker 1: were hurt by it collectively wanted that moment when he

1865
01:21:43,479 --> 01:21:47,000
Speaker 1: really took like this clean ownership of it, because he

1866
01:21:47,040 --> 01:21:49,200
Speaker 1: had moments where apologize. Is to be clear, he did,

1867
01:21:49,800 --> 01:21:52,280
Speaker 1: he did, but it always was kind of this air

1868
01:21:52,400 --> 01:21:55,439
Speaker 1: of like I messed up. That's not me, brother, I

1869
01:21:55,560 --> 01:21:57,400
Speaker 1: swear it wasn't.

1870
01:21:57,520 --> 01:22:00,719
Speaker 3: The clear hurt people.

1871
01:22:02,520 --> 01:22:05,600
Speaker 1: What I said was unacceptable, And I'm gonna put my

1872
01:22:05,800 --> 01:22:08,680
Speaker 1: money where my mouth is and show how much I

1873
01:22:08,800 --> 01:22:15,080
Speaker 1: feel bad by x amount of work in the community. Literally,

1874
01:22:15,360 --> 01:22:19,600
Speaker 1: I'm gonna give literal money time. I'm gonna go with

1875
01:22:19,720 --> 01:22:24,280
Speaker 1: Young Jeezy and give out turkeys in Atlanta. Whatever the

1876
01:22:24,400 --> 01:22:26,840
Speaker 1: thing is. Though we could laugh about it, but like,

1877
01:22:26,960 --> 01:22:30,840
Speaker 1: you gotta do the things, whatever it is. And by

1878
01:22:30,880 --> 01:22:32,960
Speaker 1: the way, to me, the main thing was and I

1879
01:22:34,320 --> 01:22:36,240
Speaker 1: I used the word on my show last week, eat shit.

1880
01:22:36,840 --> 01:22:38,560
Speaker 1: But when I say each shit, what I mean is

1881
01:22:39,000 --> 01:22:41,640
Speaker 1: that interview couldn't come looking at a white woman on

1882
01:22:41,920 --> 01:22:43,800
Speaker 1: Good Morning America like he did it. He had to

1883
01:22:43,840 --> 01:22:47,400
Speaker 1: go on a black platform and look a black person

1884
01:22:47,560 --> 01:22:50,400
Speaker 1: in the eyes and have that conversation. In my opinion,

1885
01:22:50,720 --> 01:22:52,760
Speaker 1: that to me would have really went a long way

1886
01:22:53,000 --> 01:22:56,720
Speaker 1: of having that tough conversation with a person who was

1887
01:22:56,800 --> 01:22:58,880
Speaker 1: hurt by it, and.

1888
01:22:59,479 --> 01:23:04,640
Speaker 3: That never a way Furman and Oprah did exactly exactly.

1889
01:23:04,880 --> 01:23:05,639
Speaker 1: Go to exact way.

1890
01:23:05,680 --> 01:23:06,800
Speaker 3: That's what I was thinking.

1891
01:23:08,080 --> 01:23:12,519
Speaker 4: I was thinking about Mark Furrman and Oprah because that's.

1892
01:23:12,400 --> 01:23:14,439
Speaker 1: The craziest interview I've ever seen in my fucking life.

1893
01:23:14,720 --> 01:23:17,559
Speaker 1: I don't I don't remember that YouTube that tonight. That's

1894
01:23:17,600 --> 01:23:21,040
Speaker 1: the craziest interview of both really. Yes, Oprah's like I

1895
01:23:21,120 --> 01:23:24,000
Speaker 1: was really offended, and He's like, why would anyone think

1896
01:23:24,000 --> 01:23:31,080
Speaker 1: I'm racist? Yo? So so so precisely, I think, I

1897
01:23:31,200 --> 01:23:34,040
Speaker 1: think because those things didn't happen, a lot of people

1898
01:23:34,080 --> 01:23:36,479
Speaker 1: are still very hurt by that, and I really think

1899
01:23:36,600 --> 01:23:39,679
Speaker 1: everyone has the right to be as hurt by something.

1900
01:23:39,800 --> 01:23:40,080
Speaker 3: Is there.

1901
01:23:40,200 --> 01:23:42,120
Speaker 1: I just thought that book of Team Perspective was But

1902
01:23:42,320 --> 01:23:42,439
Speaker 1: is it?

1903
01:23:42,560 --> 01:23:45,080
Speaker 4: Here's my question, is it is it consequential?

1904
01:23:45,200 --> 01:23:47,280
Speaker 1: My dad used to always say to me, But I

1905
01:23:47,520 --> 01:23:53,240
Speaker 1: always admired Howard Stern's radio acumen. Obviously, like a lot

1906
01:23:53,320 --> 01:23:55,040
Speaker 1: of the bits that he did were offensive and not

1907
01:23:55,200 --> 01:23:57,920
Speaker 1: for me. But I learned a lot of what I

1908
01:23:58,040 --> 01:24:00,759
Speaker 1: do in terms of being transparent, all always being honest

1909
01:24:00,800 --> 01:24:03,080
Speaker 1: on the air. If it's funny, you say it, if

1910
01:24:03,120 --> 01:24:05,000
Speaker 1: it's good, I learned a lot from him. My dad

1911
01:24:05,120 --> 01:24:07,600
Speaker 1: never fucked with him for a variety of issues that

1912
01:24:07,680 --> 01:24:10,160
Speaker 1: he heard him talk about. My dad. My dad makes well,

1913
01:24:10,200 --> 01:24:13,040
Speaker 1: my dad decides, he decides didn't like him. And I

1914
01:24:13,080 --> 01:24:15,960
Speaker 1: remember being like, but Dad, I've heard that he's a

1915
01:24:16,040 --> 01:24:19,280
Speaker 1: really good guy. And my dad was like, it doesn't matter.

1916
01:24:20,320 --> 01:24:23,000
Speaker 1: It only matters what you put into the world him

1917
01:24:23,120 --> 01:24:26,200
Speaker 1: you being a good guy when you're private at home,

1918
01:24:26,600 --> 01:24:28,040
Speaker 1: it's kind of inconsequential.

1919
01:24:28,680 --> 01:24:30,519
Speaker 4: What are you putting out to the world.

1920
01:24:31,120 --> 01:24:34,760
Speaker 1: And so unfortunately, I think that what Hogan ended up

1921
01:24:34,760 --> 01:24:37,160
Speaker 1: putting out to the world was so bad in that

1922
01:24:37,320 --> 01:24:39,720
Speaker 1: moment and never quite atoned for in a way that

1923
01:24:39,800 --> 01:24:40,920
Speaker 1: satisfied people.

1924
01:24:41,280 --> 01:24:44,640
Speaker 3: That I mean, to be fair, he didn't put that out, no,

1925
01:24:44,800 --> 01:24:48,439
Speaker 3: but he he sued Gawker. It also wasn't being a

1926
01:24:48,479 --> 01:24:50,200
Speaker 3: good guy in his home at the time either.

1927
01:24:50,640 --> 01:24:52,320
Speaker 1: It didn't seem like, although I don't know what the

1928
01:24:52,320 --> 01:24:54,200
Speaker 1: hell the situation was, that feels like the whole thing

1929
01:24:54,280 --> 01:24:54,639
Speaker 1: was weird.

1930
01:24:55,200 --> 01:24:57,479
Speaker 4: I don't think that was as simple as it sounds.

1931
01:24:58,160 --> 01:25:00,519
Speaker 3: There was some I know something about there was some

1932
01:25:00,560 --> 01:25:02,280
Speaker 3: weird shit going on. Yeah, oh yeah, I mean either way,

1933
01:25:02,600 --> 01:25:04,559
Speaker 3: you know what I was said behind closed doors about

1934
01:25:05,360 --> 01:25:07,960
Speaker 3: somebody's daughter was trying to take Like, yeah, that says

1935
01:25:08,000 --> 01:25:08,840
Speaker 3: as home as it gets.

1936
01:25:09,040 --> 01:25:14,880
Speaker 1: Oh oh oh that part. Yeah, yeah, absolutely, listen. I'm sad.

1937
01:25:15,280 --> 01:25:17,320
Speaker 1: I don't I really don't like to define people by

1938
01:25:17,320 --> 01:25:20,760
Speaker 1: their worst moment or their best moment. Hogan is a

1939
01:25:20,840 --> 01:25:24,639
Speaker 1: super to me. It's a complicated He's a complicated figure.

1940
01:25:24,680 --> 01:25:27,880
Speaker 1: He's the reason. He's a major reason that it's such

1941
01:25:27,920 --> 01:25:28,439
Speaker 1: a big part.

1942
01:25:28,360 --> 01:25:31,519
Speaker 3: Of my life. I mean, it's if you grew up

1943
01:25:31,520 --> 01:25:33,799
Speaker 3: in the eighties, he is the reason you watched wrestling.

1944
01:25:34,200 --> 01:25:37,200
Speaker 4: There's like you were so as a kid. There was something.

1945
01:25:37,960 --> 01:25:40,080
Speaker 1: I saw some bad takes this week moving around, by

1946
01:25:40,080 --> 01:25:42,800
Speaker 1: the way, there were some I saw some people just

1947
01:25:43,000 --> 01:25:44,720
Speaker 1: like like, there are so many takes you can have

1948
01:25:44,720 --> 01:25:45,799
Speaker 1: about Hogan that are interesting.

1949
01:25:46,120 --> 01:25:47,080
Speaker 3: Talking about the race stuff.

1950
01:25:47,120 --> 01:25:49,639
Speaker 1: Yeah, even asking the question you asked, because like obviously

1951
01:25:49,680 --> 01:25:51,360
Speaker 1: Booker has a way to feel the way he feels.

1952
01:25:51,520 --> 01:25:53,680
Speaker 1: I know black wrestlers who certainly do not feel that way.

1953
01:25:54,000 --> 01:25:56,120
Speaker 1: So like it totally depends. Everyone has their own right

1954
01:25:56,160 --> 01:25:57,920
Speaker 1: in a moment like this, But some people just look

1955
01:25:58,000 --> 01:26:00,880
Speaker 1: the lazy takes about him. At the very least it's

1956
01:26:00,960 --> 01:26:03,920
Speaker 1: worth looking at. I heard some people say he's the

1957
01:26:04,120 --> 01:26:08,200
Speaker 1: most American thing, and I think that's a really interesting

1958
01:26:08,280 --> 01:26:10,560
Speaker 1: way to put it. He like he had all the

1959
01:26:10,640 --> 01:26:13,400
Speaker 1: potential in the world. He made a ton of money,

1960
01:26:14,040 --> 01:26:16,880
Speaker 1: He stepped on people on his way, he didn't take

1961
01:26:16,960 --> 01:26:20,439
Speaker 1: ownership of the ship that he did wrong. He then

1962
01:26:20,520 --> 01:26:23,120
Speaker 1: pretended like it was all good. Let me sell this beer.

1963
01:26:23,960 --> 01:26:30,040
Speaker 1: It's all super American. He's the Dallas Cowboys are.

1964
01:26:31,280 --> 01:26:34,520
Speaker 3: He does represent America and its false and it's positivity.

1965
01:26:34,960 --> 01:26:36,559
Speaker 1: It makes you feel good and at the same time

1966
01:26:36,640 --> 01:26:41,280
Speaker 1: cringe like it's all all there, but like but a legend. Nonetheless,

1967
01:26:42,040 --> 01:26:47,280
Speaker 1: I personally separate him a bit like guys. Listen, Kanye

1968
01:26:47,400 --> 01:26:50,559
Speaker 1: West is an avowed Nazi at this point.

1969
01:26:51,520 --> 01:26:54,840
Speaker 3: He didn't he take it out of his rhymes. Last week, Well,

1970
01:26:54,840 --> 01:26:56,519
Speaker 3: what about the Haml Hitler song? Is that still up?

1971
01:26:57,280 --> 01:27:00,439
Speaker 3: He talked about old ship come on again with the

1972
01:27:00,560 --> 01:27:03,320
Speaker 3: Times man like literally like two days ago, he wasn't

1973
01:27:03,320 --> 01:27:05,760
Speaker 3: even like North Korea or some shit, and he moved.

1974
01:27:05,760 --> 01:27:07,040
Speaker 1: He moved to Japan.

1975
01:27:07,320 --> 01:27:08,080
Speaker 3: I believe, right, is he?

1976
01:27:08,720 --> 01:27:08,840
Speaker 1: Oh?

1977
01:27:08,880 --> 01:27:11,599
Speaker 4: No, wonder I heard Japan's about to start restricting their visitors.

1978
01:27:12,960 --> 01:27:18,400
Speaker 3: Kanye on the Nazi line and uh flashing lights? What

1979
01:27:18,560 --> 01:27:21,200
Speaker 3: was the level? I'm not gonna say either of the

1980
01:27:21,240 --> 01:27:21,880
Speaker 3: words that are in that.

1981
01:27:22,200 --> 01:27:23,800
Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't. I don't remember either way.

1982
01:27:23,880 --> 01:27:27,160
Speaker 1: I was gonna say this though, Kanye West is basically

1983
01:27:27,320 --> 01:27:29,599
Speaker 1: a Nazi at this point. And if my man had

1984
01:27:29,600 --> 01:27:32,800
Speaker 1: a good apology tour and just didn't say shit bad

1985
01:27:32,880 --> 01:27:35,680
Speaker 1: for like six months, I would be playing the ship

1986
01:27:35,760 --> 01:27:38,680
Speaker 1: in the crib again. Like we want to forgive, we

1987
01:27:38,880 --> 01:27:42,000
Speaker 1: want to forgive the people whose stuff that we love.

1988
01:27:42,160 --> 01:27:44,200
Speaker 1: I don't want to. I don't want to hate Kanye

1989
01:27:44,880 --> 01:27:46,600
Speaker 1: like people think I get pleasure out of when I

1990
01:27:46,680 --> 01:27:49,000
Speaker 1: have to call his shit out and like you think

1991
01:27:49,040 --> 01:27:51,040
Speaker 1: I get you know, I bought tickets to his concert

1992
01:27:51,320 --> 01:27:54,920
Speaker 1: like I didn't just most everybody I've seen for fifteen years,

1993
01:27:54,960 --> 01:27:58,640
Speaker 1: I got comps for Kanye. I forked over money to

1994
01:27:58,800 --> 01:28:01,000
Speaker 1: go to concerts like I'm a I was saying, I

1995
01:28:01,080 --> 01:28:02,240
Speaker 1: be the sneakers.

1996
01:28:01,800 --> 01:28:04,720
Speaker 3: He's the biggest artist in my life period. I was

1997
01:28:05,000 --> 01:28:08,160
Speaker 3: from nineteen ninety. He is the biggest artist in my life.

1998
01:28:08,000 --> 01:28:10,360
Speaker 1: In your personal life, yep, yeah, none of us want

1999
01:28:10,400 --> 01:28:14,040
Speaker 1: to be mad at that person. Like when they asked

2000
01:28:14,080 --> 01:28:18,240
Speaker 1: me to go to fucking Wyoming, I wanted to go,

2001
01:28:19,120 --> 01:28:21,120
Speaker 1: and my brain, I'm like, oh man, this sounds fucking cool.

2002
01:28:21,160 --> 01:28:22,960
Speaker 1: People just hang out and listen to music into me

2003
01:28:23,080 --> 01:28:26,120
Speaker 1: fucking campfire, which hangout, hang out with Kanye and Dave Chappelle.

2004
01:28:26,479 --> 01:28:28,800
Speaker 1: But he would he'd already gotten on the weird shit,

2005
01:28:28,960 --> 01:28:30,960
Speaker 1: and I was like, I can't go. This guy just

2006
01:28:31,000 --> 01:28:34,160
Speaker 1: said the slavery was a choice bullshit, and this is

2007
01:28:34,240 --> 01:28:35,839
Speaker 1: before the jew shit even started.

2008
01:28:36,640 --> 01:28:38,640
Speaker 4: So like, I take no pleasure in that. And my

2009
01:28:38,720 --> 01:28:39,960
Speaker 4: point is this the same with Hogan.

2010
01:28:40,000 --> 01:28:44,040
Speaker 1: I just wished even though Hogan they're different, but I

2011
01:28:44,200 --> 01:28:46,200
Speaker 1: just wish it had been cleaned up. I wish when

2012
01:28:46,200 --> 01:28:49,160
Speaker 1: he passed, I didn't have like a feeling of mixed feelings.

2013
01:28:49,200 --> 01:28:50,200
Speaker 1: I wish I just felt sad.

2014
01:28:50,479 --> 01:28:52,960
Speaker 3: Are you asking if someone just goes on a press

2015
01:28:53,120 --> 01:28:58,240
Speaker 3: run after and apologizes like the way Kramer went on, Uh.

2016
01:28:58,560 --> 01:29:02,120
Speaker 4: I'll tell you what the hell of an apology. Recently, though, I'm.

2017
01:29:02,000 --> 01:29:04,439
Speaker 3: Saying his first one when Jerry sif who's the one

2018
01:29:04,439 --> 01:29:08,360
Speaker 3: with Letterman? Was that Letterman and Kramer zoomed in before

2019
01:29:08,439 --> 01:29:11,080
Speaker 3: zoom was a thing, and he said, I offended some

2020
01:29:11,200 --> 01:29:14,240
Speaker 3: Afro Americans and were like, Kramer, this is worse. Stop

2021
01:29:14,280 --> 01:29:17,519
Speaker 3: what you're doing over zoom A recent one. No, no, no.

2022
01:29:18,160 --> 01:29:20,519
Speaker 1: It was right after that that footage Leader and you

2023
01:29:20,560 --> 01:29:23,080
Speaker 1: know what he ended up doing though the Kramer literally

2024
01:29:23,400 --> 01:29:25,680
Speaker 1: disappeared for the better part of ten years and then

2025
01:29:25,720 --> 01:29:28,000
Speaker 1: did curb and then he's a herb and then when

2026
01:29:28,000 --> 01:29:29,479
Speaker 1: he came back. Now I saw an interview with him,

2027
01:29:29,479 --> 01:29:30,560
Speaker 1: like a year, let's put a book. He put a

2028
01:29:30,600 --> 01:29:33,080
Speaker 1: book out or something. He literally now talked to like

2029
01:29:33,160 --> 01:29:35,640
Speaker 1: a whole different tone and like everything he says, like

2030
01:29:35,800 --> 01:29:37,240
Speaker 1: did Ayahuasca? I think he did Iowa.

2031
01:29:38,280 --> 01:29:40,280
Speaker 3: So I'm saying he had a reset. Kramer was not

2032
01:29:40,360 --> 01:29:43,599
Speaker 3: my example. I'm saying, is he supposed to just Kanye

2033
01:29:44,680 --> 01:29:47,120
Speaker 3: Hulkogan if he was alive, just go on a press

2034
01:29:47,160 --> 01:29:49,280
Speaker 3: run and be like I didn't mean it, and then

2035
01:29:49,320 --> 01:29:51,360
Speaker 3: it's like, oh no, no, you good.

2036
01:29:52,000 --> 01:29:53,840
Speaker 1: No. I'm being a little tongue in cheek when I

2037
01:29:53,880 --> 01:29:55,600
Speaker 1: say that, I would want it to be Like my

2038
01:29:55,720 --> 01:29:58,160
Speaker 1: point is, though, even Kanye where it was about, because

2039
01:29:58,200 --> 01:29:59,680
Speaker 1: by the way, people are alway different about their own

2040
01:29:59,680 --> 01:30:01,760
Speaker 1: group as everyone else. I'm just trying to point out

2041
01:30:01,920 --> 01:30:04,559
Speaker 1: the Hogan shit hurt mea the Kanye shit hurts me. Yeah,

2042
01:30:05,280 --> 01:30:09,639
Speaker 1: I would have forgiven Hogan. I would still forgive Kanye.

2043
01:30:10,600 --> 01:30:13,280
Speaker 1: That being said, it doesn't look like there's any chance

2044
01:30:13,320 --> 01:30:15,600
Speaker 1: he's ever going to get healthy enough to do that,

2045
01:30:15,800 --> 01:30:17,560
Speaker 1: because to your point, no, it could not just be

2046
01:30:17,640 --> 01:30:18,160
Speaker 1: a rollout.

2047
01:30:18,360 --> 01:30:20,920
Speaker 4: He couldn't do a clips press run and in the.

2048
01:30:20,960 --> 01:30:24,040
Speaker 1: Interview with you know, Elliott and DJ Head he says

2049
01:30:24,080 --> 01:30:25,439
Speaker 1: he's good and then all of a sudden, we're good.

2050
01:30:26,520 --> 01:30:29,960
Speaker 1: But if it was a real like over time, putting

2051
01:30:30,040 --> 01:30:33,120
Speaker 1: your money where your mouth is really showing change and

2052
01:30:33,240 --> 01:30:36,439
Speaker 1: you see that he's gotten healthy, he's not well most

2053
01:30:36,439 --> 01:30:39,840
Speaker 1: of the Yeah, I'm just saying I would be willing to.

2054
01:30:40,040 --> 01:30:43,400
Speaker 1: And I think if you're a Jewish fan of hip

2055
01:30:43,400 --> 01:30:46,599
Speaker 1: hop and you loved Kanye, you're really hoping deep down

2056
01:30:46,640 --> 01:30:49,960
Speaker 1: one day he finds his fucking mind and you don't

2057
01:30:50,000 --> 01:30:51,040
Speaker 1: have these feelings anymore.

2058
01:30:51,160 --> 01:30:51,760
Speaker 3: Yeah, it sucks.

2059
01:30:52,280 --> 01:30:55,519
Speaker 1: Yeah, how many yeezies have been wasted? Have visually the

2060
01:30:55,560 --> 01:30:58,720
Speaker 1: price even on Stocky's looked easies. Yeah, they're pretty cheap, right,

2061
01:30:58,920 --> 01:31:02,599
Speaker 1: Oh my god, they're all sitting. Just go to General

2062
01:31:02,640 --> 01:31:04,840
Speaker 1: Square in Jersey City. You could just walk into any

2063
01:31:04,880 --> 01:31:08,720
Speaker 1: of those are But I guess my question there more

2064
01:31:08,920 --> 01:31:12,240
Speaker 1: was to the public. How can someone really go on

2065
01:31:12,280 --> 01:31:15,320
Speaker 1: an apology press run at this point with how many

2066
01:31:15,360 --> 01:31:17,639
Speaker 1: people can talk on the internet? Because even if Kanye

2067
01:31:17,800 --> 01:31:20,160
Speaker 1: smoked that it was sincere, is it going to work

2068
01:31:20,200 --> 01:31:20,720
Speaker 1: for one half?

2069
01:31:21,600 --> 01:31:23,280
Speaker 4: I think so if it was a life change, it

2070
01:31:23,280 --> 01:31:24,880
Speaker 4: would eventually you.

2071
01:31:25,200 --> 01:31:25,600
Speaker 1: Have to see it.

2072
01:31:25,720 --> 01:31:27,320
Speaker 2: It can't just be It can't just be an interview.

2073
01:31:27,560 --> 01:31:29,120
Speaker 2: It has to be when you see him now away

2074
01:31:29,120 --> 01:31:31,240
Speaker 2: from the interview in life, how he's moving around, just

2075
01:31:31,320 --> 01:31:34,479
Speaker 2: moving different, Just tell he's healthier years years.

2076
01:31:34,720 --> 01:31:40,800
Speaker 3: Speaking from someone that watched Hunter Biden do it to

2077
01:31:41,080 --> 01:31:43,320
Speaker 3: our podcast, and I was sitting there like and now

2078
01:31:43,320 --> 01:31:46,000
Speaker 3: you want him to come Damn, I'm like cracking hose.

2079
01:31:46,000 --> 01:31:47,160
Speaker 3: Why was I even mad at this guy?

2080
01:31:48,080 --> 01:31:51,559
Speaker 1: Like he became he became human to like, damn, is.

2081
01:31:51,560 --> 01:31:52,200
Speaker 3: This working on me?

2082
01:31:52,920 --> 01:31:55,600
Speaker 1: By the way, I didn't even watch the thing, and

2083
01:31:55,640 --> 01:31:58,400
Speaker 1: I was never mad at Hunter, but I mean I

2084
01:31:58,479 --> 01:31:59,280
Speaker 1: was never mad at Hunter.

2085
01:31:59,360 --> 01:32:01,360
Speaker 4: But but you're like, why was this an issue.

2086
01:32:01,439 --> 01:32:03,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, I didn't even know gun it was a little

2087
01:32:03,000 --> 01:32:06,200
Speaker 3: weird listen man for the Second Amendment. Yeah, but I

2088
01:32:06,240 --> 01:32:07,839
Speaker 3: thought all the crack that he had was the weirdest

2089
01:32:07,840 --> 01:32:13,320
Speaker 3: part to me. Just a crack left. That's fine, that's fine.

2090
01:32:13,840 --> 01:32:15,960
Speaker 2: And then nobody act like nobody in the White House

2091
01:32:16,080 --> 01:32:18,840
Speaker 2: figure out where that that came from. That was the

2092
01:32:18,880 --> 01:32:20,479
Speaker 2: most amazing part of you. We we we looked at

2093
01:32:20,520 --> 01:32:24,040
Speaker 2: the cameras. We don't know how this coke got y'all

2094
01:32:24,160 --> 01:32:25,479
Speaker 2: know how that shit the president.

2095
01:32:27,040 --> 01:32:29,400
Speaker 3: This is where I can't agree with you. There the

2096
01:32:29,479 --> 01:32:31,559
Speaker 3: amount of people that do cocaine at the White House.

2097
01:32:32,400 --> 01:32:36,120
Speaker 3: To think it was Hunter Biden, that's a stretch. It

2098
01:32:36,479 --> 01:32:39,120
Speaker 3: could have been his dad to stick his ass back speech,

2099
01:32:39,720 --> 01:32:42,080
Speaker 3: it was one of the bidies and came in with

2100
01:32:42,920 --> 01:32:45,040
Speaker 3: you don't think every White House a no matter what party,

2101
01:32:45,120 --> 01:32:47,560
Speaker 3: no matter what year, there was somebody that does not

2102
01:32:47,680 --> 01:32:50,040
Speaker 3: do cocaine frequently during the day.

2103
01:32:50,120 --> 01:32:53,960
Speaker 1: Oh no, for sure, frequently always in every White House,

2104
01:32:54,080 --> 01:32:57,240
Speaker 1: is there someone doing cocaine? Yes, yes, somebody's microdoc and

2105
01:32:57,360 --> 01:33:00,519
Speaker 1: I guarantee at every hour of every day at the

2106
01:33:00,560 --> 01:33:03,360
Speaker 1: White House, since when did the shit open, somebody was

2107
01:33:03,439 --> 01:33:06,479
Speaker 1: doing cocaine every hour you're going with in the history

2108
01:33:06,520 --> 01:33:11,200
Speaker 1: of the White House. I I that's like one of

2109
01:33:11,240 --> 01:33:13,640
Speaker 1: the only things I'd stand on one percent, no matter what.

2110
01:33:13,960 --> 01:33:15,960
Speaker 1: You could literally kill me if this is false.

2111
01:33:16,720 --> 01:33:17,720
Speaker 3: I'm pushing back on this.

2112
01:33:18,160 --> 01:33:20,400
Speaker 2: I think for every time we hear a Kindrick record

2113
01:33:20,479 --> 01:33:23,960
Speaker 2: on power, somebody's doing a line in the White House.

2114
01:33:25,680 --> 01:33:30,240
Speaker 4: That's a that's a I really I I don't know, man.

2115
01:33:31,000 --> 01:33:32,840
Speaker 1: But the thing is, I haven't been around cocaine very much,

2116
01:33:32,880 --> 01:33:36,280
Speaker 1: so it's obviously more frequent than I'm aware of. I

2117
01:33:36,360 --> 01:33:37,720
Speaker 1: have not seen a lot of coke in my life,

2118
01:33:38,000 --> 01:33:40,639
Speaker 1: and I know it's getting done because cocaines are very sneaky.

2119
01:33:41,320 --> 01:33:41,519
Speaker 3: I know.

2120
01:33:42,040 --> 01:33:43,640
Speaker 1: But like getting into the White House is just like

2121
01:33:43,800 --> 01:33:45,439
Speaker 1: a certain level that you have to be at to

2122
01:33:45,520 --> 01:33:46,360
Speaker 1: even get your clearance.

2123
01:33:46,439 --> 01:33:48,599
Speaker 3: I'm not saying it doesn't happen, but it happens. I'm sure.

2124
01:33:48,720 --> 01:33:50,400
Speaker 4: I think every hour is wrong. I think you are

2125
01:33:50,439 --> 01:33:51,160
Speaker 4: patently wrong.

2126
01:33:51,520 --> 01:33:56,120
Speaker 3: Okay, crazy doing a line every hour in the somebody

2127
01:33:57,080 --> 01:33:59,000
Speaker 3: selling it. I was going to go every thirty minutes.

2128
01:34:00,000 --> 01:34:00,439
Speaker 1: People can.

2129
01:34:02,200 --> 01:34:02,519
Speaker 3: Working.

2130
01:34:02,520 --> 01:34:03,640
Speaker 1: I think there's a lot of people that work in

2131
01:34:03,720 --> 01:34:06,120
Speaker 1: Why Yeah, but how many are you thinking over a hundred?

2132
01:34:06,320 --> 01:34:09,320
Speaker 3: I mean, sure, including Secret Service. You can see your

2133
01:34:09,320 --> 01:34:11,600
Speaker 3: serves doing cocaine. Also, I think they need to do it.

2134
01:34:11,920 --> 01:34:13,760
Speaker 3: It opens it there. Whibley on the lesser side of it.

2135
01:34:13,840 --> 01:34:17,760
Speaker 3: But I think every person on the staff in there, Yeah,

2136
01:34:17,760 --> 01:34:20,599
Speaker 3: there's a high I'd say about one hundred and fifty

2137
01:34:20,840 --> 01:34:23,000
Speaker 3: to sixty people right up and wash so that I

2138
01:34:23,040 --> 01:34:25,240
Speaker 3: would say, I would say at least ten people out

2139
01:34:25,280 --> 01:34:28,360
Speaker 3: of that one hundred and sixty are doing cocaine frequently

2140
01:34:28,479 --> 01:34:29,200
Speaker 3: during the entire day.

2141
01:34:29,560 --> 01:34:33,240
Speaker 1: I think this is part of the disconnection that we

2142
01:34:33,360 --> 01:34:38,040
Speaker 1: have between how like people see Washington and how it

2143
01:34:38,240 --> 01:34:39,200
Speaker 1: actually is.

2144
01:34:40,280 --> 01:34:42,439
Speaker 3: Like I, me and Sife have had arguments about this.

2145
01:34:42,600 --> 01:34:45,639
Speaker 3: It is not as crazy now right.

2146
01:34:45,600 --> 01:34:49,439
Speaker 1: Now, different conversation because the White House currently is not

2147
01:34:49,680 --> 01:34:52,240
Speaker 1: filled with people who actually are of that world. It

2148
01:34:52,360 --> 01:34:54,960
Speaker 1: is filled with probably lunatic coke heads who were doing

2149
01:34:55,000 --> 01:34:56,000
Speaker 1: Fox News year ago.

2150
01:34:56,080 --> 01:34:57,519
Speaker 4: Doing coke and now they're in the White House.

2151
01:34:57,600 --> 01:35:02,680
Speaker 1: Oh see Previously these are generally lifetime Washington types. Like

2152
01:35:02,800 --> 01:35:04,720
Speaker 1: I know those types, and I don't mean to blow

2153
01:35:04,800 --> 01:35:08,360
Speaker 1: up everyone's stereotypes and fun conspiracy theories. Most of them

2154
01:35:08,479 --> 01:35:12,640
Speaker 1: are really nerdy and work really fucking hard, and that

2155
01:35:12,800 --> 01:35:14,760
Speaker 1: is how they get there. For the most part, even

2156
01:35:14,840 --> 01:35:17,439
Speaker 1: in previous Republican administrations, I would say that we are

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Speaker 1: currently in the waw waw West. I don't know what

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01:35:19,720 --> 01:35:24,360
Speaker 1: is going. But prior to that, I in my experience

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01:35:24,400 --> 01:35:26,880
Speaker 1: growing up in Washington, knowing mad people who worked in

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Speaker 1: the White House.

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01:35:27,439 --> 01:35:29,679
Speaker 4: On the Hill, it is more boring than you're giving

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01:35:29,720 --> 01:35:30,040
Speaker 4: a credit.

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01:35:30,120 --> 01:35:33,120
Speaker 3: Okay, you are all right. I'm not making an a

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01:35:33,240 --> 01:35:35,920
Speaker 3: Washington thing or a White House thing. The aids and

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Speaker 3: the people that work in that all. I'm not saying

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01:35:37,280 --> 01:35:39,720
Speaker 3: every senator is doing coke. I'm saying the people that

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01:35:39,880 --> 01:35:42,880
Speaker 3: work there. I worked in an advertising agency in Tribeca,

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01:35:43,200 --> 01:35:46,920
Speaker 3: way different. I was literally the only person I was.

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01:35:47,040 --> 01:35:48,720
Speaker 3: I was very vanilla and num to coke like I

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01:35:48,760 --> 01:35:50,960
Speaker 3: didn't I didn't even know. It was like, wait, why

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01:35:51,000 --> 01:35:53,120
Speaker 3: didn't I didn't know this? Many people did cocaine.

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01:35:53,240 --> 01:35:55,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, but you were an advertising That's literally like people

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01:35:55,920 --> 01:35:59,439
Speaker 1: are having drinks at eleven am too. It's a different suggestion.

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Speaker 3: And before that, I was at def JAM when I

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01:36:02,200 --> 01:36:05,599
Speaker 3: was at a lower level. Then after advertising hot took

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01:36:05,600 --> 01:36:08,040
Speaker 3: off a little bit, started getting into some mixes. I said,

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01:36:08,120 --> 01:36:10,240
Speaker 3: I didn't know everybody in the music business was doing

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01:36:10,280 --> 01:36:14,080
Speaker 3: coke too. I found all of this out as I

2179
01:36:14,240 --> 01:36:16,280
Speaker 3: was going so to say that people that have to

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01:36:16,320 --> 01:36:17,880
Speaker 3: work twenty four hours out the day with some of

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01:36:17,920 --> 01:36:20,759
Speaker 3: the craziest human beings are not on cocaine at all times.

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01:36:20,840 --> 01:36:21,920
Speaker 3: It's insane to say.

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Speaker 1: That'd be the place I would have the coke. I

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01:36:23,800 --> 01:36:27,600
Speaker 1: hear you. Our advertising company didn't need it, right. I

2185
01:36:27,760 --> 01:36:31,040
Speaker 1: just don't think that Washington is previously tilling.

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01:36:30,840 --> 01:36:34,200
Speaker 3: Me just having for sex in what was that ship

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01:36:34,920 --> 01:36:38,439
Speaker 3: that came out? What was at the floor was wherever

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01:36:38,520 --> 01:36:39,000
Speaker 3: the Senate was?

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01:36:39,080 --> 01:36:39,320
Speaker 1: Senate?

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01:36:39,439 --> 01:36:40,880
Speaker 3: Yeah, who was having sex?

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01:36:41,080 --> 01:36:42,519
Speaker 1: Remember you dont remember that video came out?

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01:36:43,040 --> 01:36:44,360
Speaker 3: Was that during found down some asshole.

2193
01:36:44,400 --> 01:36:45,360
Speaker 4: And by the way, you don't have to call it

2194
01:36:45,439 --> 01:36:45,880
Speaker 4: gay sex.

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01:36:45,960 --> 01:36:46,639
Speaker 3: It was just sex.

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01:36:47,560 --> 01:36:50,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, but gay people were having It's like if two

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01:36:50,960 --> 01:36:52,880
Speaker 2: if a gate has dinner, we're going to a gay denner.

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01:36:53,840 --> 01:36:55,840
Speaker 1: It just crossed my mind. I'm not trying to be

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01:36:55,920 --> 01:36:57,760
Speaker 1: that guy. It only crossed my mind right now when

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01:36:57,840 --> 01:36:59,040
Speaker 1: Rory said it like.

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Speaker 3: The Senate and then I stopped. Then my liberal mind

2202
01:37:03,479 --> 01:37:05,000
Speaker 3: kicked in and I actually stopped. I was like, he's

2203
01:37:05,040 --> 01:37:07,240
Speaker 3: fucking right up. If a man and woman was sucking

2204
01:37:07,280 --> 01:37:08,320
Speaker 3: in there, I would have said, you know, they was

2205
01:37:08,360 --> 01:37:10,240
Speaker 3: sucking in there people.

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01:37:12,600 --> 01:37:17,400
Speaker 4: Yeah, you know it's bad because gay sex is different different.

2207
01:37:19,040 --> 01:37:19,240
Speaker 3: Coke.

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01:37:20,080 --> 01:37:20,240
Speaker 1: Right.

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01:37:22,560 --> 01:37:25,200
Speaker 3: Oh man, yo, pete man, thank you for coming through.

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01:37:25,280 --> 01:37:30,840
Speaker 1: Man, this is like yeah, absolutely, father, absolutely, congrats.

2211
01:37:31,040 --> 01:37:33,280
Speaker 3: Yeah, we're supposed to have our whole wholesome fathersation.

2212
01:37:33,479 --> 01:37:34,080
Speaker 1: Two dads.

2213
01:37:34,640 --> 01:37:35,360
Speaker 4: He just did a trip.

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01:37:36,560 --> 01:37:38,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, no, listen, we should we used to wrap it

2215
01:37:38,160 --> 01:37:41,040
Speaker 3: up on the gay sex, straight sex. No, I am

2216
01:37:41,080 --> 01:37:41,439
Speaker 3: a dad.

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01:37:41,560 --> 01:37:43,960
Speaker 1: It's very it's a lot of fun. I fucking love it. Yeah,

2218
01:37:44,080 --> 01:37:46,080
Speaker 1: it's everything. Everybody said more you have kids.

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01:37:46,160 --> 01:37:48,560
Speaker 3: No, no, yeah, I thought you have enough nieces and

2220
01:37:48,600 --> 01:37:50,720
Speaker 3: nephews though, Yeah to know the whole game. Have you

2221
01:37:50,800 --> 01:37:51,559
Speaker 3: traveled with them before?

2222
01:37:52,200 --> 01:37:53,920
Speaker 1: Uh? Not all at one time? No?

2223
01:37:54,280 --> 01:37:57,040
Speaker 3: That would be very expensive and a big headaches.

2224
01:37:57,040 --> 01:37:59,720
Speaker 1: So literally the worst thing I will just I just

2225
01:38:00,080 --> 01:38:02,840
Speaker 1: realize that, Like when I was carrying around this amount

2226
01:38:02,840 --> 01:38:05,839
Speaker 1: of stuff, I'm just like I realized that the difference

2227
01:38:05,880 --> 01:38:08,320
Speaker 1: between me and the successful and very rich people that

2228
01:38:08,360 --> 01:38:10,680
Speaker 1: I know is if you don't know the life of

2229
01:38:10,840 --> 01:38:13,720
Speaker 1: trying to maneuver your kids stuff onto the plane, like

2230
01:38:13,800 --> 01:38:16,120
Speaker 1: if you do some shit with private jets, yeah, yeah,

2231
01:38:16,160 --> 01:38:18,400
Speaker 1: you don't know, yeah, or like or you go to

2232
01:38:18,479 --> 01:38:20,800
Speaker 1: that clearance part of the airport where they like take

2233
01:38:20,840 --> 01:38:21,480
Speaker 1: your stuff.

2234
01:38:21,320 --> 01:38:22,400
Speaker 3: Yeah on the plane.

2235
01:38:22,720 --> 01:38:26,840
Speaker 1: Yeah no, if you don't know that regular regular, you're

2236
01:38:26,880 --> 01:38:28,439
Speaker 1: just hoping your baby stops making.

2237
01:38:28,280 --> 01:38:30,160
Speaker 3: Noise on the plane. You don't want to interrupt anybody,

2238
01:38:30,240 --> 01:38:32,280
Speaker 3: Oh my god. Like and then and then, by the way,

2239
01:38:33,160 --> 01:38:34,920
Speaker 3: so like we're flying again in a few weeks.

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Speaker 1: The amount of work that I'm doing to transfer points

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01:38:38,800 --> 01:38:41,160
Speaker 1: so I can upgrade us to business class because that

2242
01:38:41,280 --> 01:38:43,080
Speaker 1: business class international.

2243
01:38:43,400 --> 01:38:45,160
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, I listen. I don't know about you, guys.

2244
01:38:45,520 --> 01:38:47,920
Speaker 1: I personally, I don't make twenty million dollars a month

2245
01:38:47,960 --> 01:38:48,800
Speaker 1: on Patreon, you know what I mean.

2246
01:38:48,840 --> 01:38:51,160
Speaker 3: I'm out here living a regular life. Neither does other people.

2247
01:38:51,160 --> 01:38:56,679
Speaker 3: But someone say neither does anybody.

2248
01:38:57,760 --> 01:39:01,360
Speaker 1: But but if you're a regular person, even if you're

2249
01:39:01,400 --> 01:39:03,679
Speaker 1: doing well, Actually, here's the point where I don't relate

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01:39:03,720 --> 01:39:07,840
Speaker 1: to you anymore. If you see that the upgrade to

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01:39:08,000 --> 01:39:13,080
Speaker 1: business says your ticket went from twelve hundred to six thousand,

2252
01:39:13,640 --> 01:39:16,880
Speaker 1: and that doesn't make you go well, business class was

2253
01:39:16,920 --> 01:39:17,840
Speaker 1: an interesting idea.

2254
01:39:18,320 --> 01:39:20,200
Speaker 4: I don't relate to you anymore because the idea that

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01:39:20,200 --> 01:39:20,400
Speaker 4: all of.

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01:39:20,360 --> 01:39:21,960
Speaker 1: A sudden, my trip's going to go from being I

2257
01:39:22,080 --> 01:39:24,960
Speaker 1: spent three grand for us to fly to fifteen grand

2258
01:39:25,000 --> 01:39:28,240
Speaker 1: for us to fly that's not I don't know how

2259
01:39:28,360 --> 01:39:30,240
Speaker 1: rich i'd have to get where. I wouldn't care. I

2260
01:39:30,360 --> 01:39:33,000
Speaker 1: really don't know. I hope I find out. But yeah,

2261
01:39:33,040 --> 01:39:35,000
Speaker 1: the amount of finagali I'm doing on my next trip

2262
01:39:35,120 --> 01:39:36,320
Speaker 1: transferring points.

2263
01:39:36,080 --> 01:39:36,599
Speaker 3: Over a year.

2264
01:39:36,920 --> 01:39:40,040
Speaker 4: Let me get these amps. Because bro, the lap infant

2265
01:39:40,080 --> 01:39:40,559
Speaker 4: thing is great.

2266
01:39:40,600 --> 01:39:42,040
Speaker 1: You can bring your baby on the plane with you,

2267
01:39:43,520 --> 01:39:45,840
Speaker 1: but then you're stuck sitting next to two people.

2268
01:39:46,680 --> 01:39:49,280
Speaker 3: It is rory. Yeah, no, I've been wait till you

2269
01:39:49,360 --> 01:39:53,040
Speaker 3: try to finesse that your daughter's passport is wrong and

2270
01:39:53,200 --> 01:39:55,880
Speaker 3: she's actually younger. I did that to Florida. I no,

2271
01:39:55,920 --> 01:39:58,519
Speaker 3: you didn't. Now that's how How do you try to

2272
01:39:58,560 --> 01:40:00,240
Speaker 3: finesse that? Though? Don't they look at it? Or hope?

2273
01:40:00,240 --> 01:40:01,200
Speaker 3: I don't know. No, No, I tried.

2274
01:40:01,520 --> 01:40:03,720
Speaker 1: It didn't work, they saw it. I'm my father's son.

2275
01:40:03,720 --> 01:40:06,679
Speaker 1: I try to find any scam in anything. It looked

2276
01:40:06,760 --> 01:40:08,479
Speaker 1: like she's too old for this, because I did. I

2277
01:40:08,600 --> 01:40:10,400
Speaker 1: was the first lamar head just because its lap is

2278
01:40:10,800 --> 01:40:13,120
Speaker 1: up till two. So she just turned too. We went

2279
01:40:13,160 --> 01:40:15,880
Speaker 1: down to Florida and I was like, I can get

2280
01:40:15,880 --> 01:40:19,840
Speaker 1: away with this. Brought her passport because we have clear

2281
01:40:20,240 --> 01:40:24,000
Speaker 1: and before clear. Before they never asked for a Mars passport. No, no,

2282
01:40:24,080 --> 01:40:26,040
Speaker 1: that you just walked through. You just walked through. So

2283
01:40:26,200 --> 01:40:28,280
Speaker 1: they stopped us and did a Mars thing.

2284
01:40:28,680 --> 01:40:30,400
Speaker 3: They're like, does she needs to have clear? She doesn't

2285
01:40:30,400 --> 01:40:33,760
Speaker 3: need clear? Does no? But they asked for all they

2286
01:40:33,800 --> 01:40:36,880
Speaker 3: asked for my dkey is ID? Everyone's ID and they

2287
01:40:36,920 --> 01:40:38,800
Speaker 3: were like, she doesn't have a ticket, she's two years old.

2288
01:40:38,920 --> 01:40:40,760
Speaker 3: I was like, and you have to go buy one

2289
01:40:40,840 --> 01:40:41,080
Speaker 3: right then?

2290
01:40:41,800 --> 01:40:41,920
Speaker 1: Oh?

2291
01:40:42,000 --> 01:40:44,960
Speaker 3: Wow, that hurts you. Yeah, that's that's that's what I

2292
01:40:45,120 --> 01:40:48,439
Speaker 3: wasn't mad. The chances of Clear doing that are so

2293
01:40:48,720 --> 01:40:50,280
Speaker 3: low that I really thought I could get away with this.

2294
01:40:50,439 --> 01:40:52,439
Speaker 3: The scam was kind of worth me to because it

2295
01:40:52,520 --> 01:40:55,880
Speaker 3: wasn't that crazy. It wasn't that crazy.

2296
01:40:56,920 --> 01:40:58,800
Speaker 1: But now I'd say that the baby thing has been

2297
01:41:00,000 --> 01:41:02,040
Speaker 1: Wait till you're in a Mexico city therefore for eleven

2298
01:41:02,080 --> 01:41:05,320
Speaker 1: hours with a hangover after your birthday, and then sit

2299
01:41:05,439 --> 01:41:08,439
Speaker 1: middle seat economy with your one year old daughter.

2300
01:41:09,120 --> 01:41:10,360
Speaker 3: Then talk to me, what do you do?

2301
01:41:10,439 --> 01:41:12,000
Speaker 1: What did the people do? By the way, once the kid?

2302
01:41:12,200 --> 01:41:14,200
Speaker 1: So let's say let's say you do well in life

2303
01:41:14,600 --> 01:41:17,960
Speaker 1: and you do pay for business class. Cool, you finally

2304
01:41:18,040 --> 01:41:20,160
Speaker 1: dealt with it. You look around, You're like, I paid

2305
01:41:20,200 --> 01:41:22,080
Speaker 1: I paid, yeah, damn three grand for me and my

2306
01:41:22,120 --> 01:41:24,320
Speaker 1: wife to five first class, but now you got to

2307
01:41:24,360 --> 01:41:26,479
Speaker 1: buy another one wants the babies two years and two days,

2308
01:41:26,920 --> 01:41:28,639
Speaker 1: and you know, nothing gets me matter in the world.

2309
01:41:29,000 --> 01:41:31,240
Speaker 1: The one like if I'm stuck in coach and I

2310
01:41:31,360 --> 01:41:33,519
Speaker 1: walked past, like I went for an upgrade, they didn't

2311
01:41:33,520 --> 01:41:35,200
Speaker 1: have it. It's too expensive, Like I said, you have

2312
01:41:35,240 --> 01:41:36,680
Speaker 1: that flight where it's like five thousand, I'm like, I

2313
01:41:36,720 --> 01:41:37,040
Speaker 1: can't do it.

2314
01:41:37,080 --> 01:41:37,760
Speaker 3: I'm gonna have to do.

2315
01:41:37,920 --> 01:41:39,639
Speaker 4: I'll get the best coach seat I can get.

2316
01:41:39,680 --> 01:41:42,519
Speaker 1: It's all I can do. And you're walking through first

2317
01:41:42,600 --> 01:41:44,840
Speaker 1: class and there's like a six year old and their

2318
01:41:44,840 --> 01:41:47,439
Speaker 1: own first class seat. Oh yeah, And I'm like, I

2319
01:41:47,520 --> 01:41:48,280
Speaker 1: didn't you know, guys have.

2320
01:41:48,320 --> 01:41:50,600
Speaker 3: Swere to god I was first class. I swear to

2321
01:41:50,640 --> 01:41:51,960
Speaker 3: god I was. I might have been.

2322
01:41:52,000 --> 01:41:54,000
Speaker 4: I might have already touched forty before I gotten a

2323
01:41:54,000 --> 01:41:54,439
Speaker 4: first class.

2324
01:41:54,520 --> 01:41:54,760
Speaker 1: Yeah.

2325
01:41:54,880 --> 01:41:58,160
Speaker 3: Never until this podcast, I never touched first class.

2326
01:41:58,320 --> 01:42:00,439
Speaker 1: Never. And if part of your life like my parents

2327
01:42:00,479 --> 01:42:05,759
Speaker 1: would first class, my parents don't do Southwest Flora, Okay

2328
01:42:07,080 --> 01:42:10,760
Speaker 1: to Florida, that whole. And then when you see a

2329
01:42:10,800 --> 01:42:13,880
Speaker 1: little kid who's flopping around in the seat looking like

2330
01:42:14,120 --> 01:42:18,519
Speaker 1: a baby Chris. This kid he doesn't know, he doesn't

2331
01:42:18,560 --> 01:42:18,840
Speaker 1: even know.

2332
01:42:19,320 --> 01:42:21,559
Speaker 3: But so I used to think that all the time too.

2333
01:42:21,680 --> 01:42:23,400
Speaker 3: And then in the beginning, when I didn't have to

2334
01:42:23,479 --> 01:42:26,360
Speaker 3: have Amara as a second seat, I was like, I'm

2335
01:42:26,400 --> 01:42:29,040
Speaker 3: doing the same thing, though, why is my toddler in

2336
01:42:29,160 --> 01:42:31,280
Speaker 3: first class? Now she's too She's never getting a fucking

2337
01:42:31,280 --> 01:42:33,880
Speaker 3: first class. That's it, that's it. That's why to Florida

2338
01:42:33,920 --> 01:42:36,160
Speaker 3: we were flying economy. That's you have to know, or

2339
01:42:36,360 --> 01:42:37,120
Speaker 3: or here's what you have to do.

2340
01:42:37,439 --> 01:42:39,479
Speaker 1: Isn't there a situation What you could do is you

2341
01:42:39,600 --> 01:42:42,360
Speaker 1: get two first class seats one coach seat.

2342
01:42:42,680 --> 01:42:43,799
Speaker 3: Ah. I like that strategy.

2343
01:42:44,400 --> 01:42:48,400
Speaker 1: You and you and your daughter sit in first class

2344
01:42:48,439 --> 01:42:51,960
Speaker 1: when the flight takes off because I'm the man and yeah,

2345
01:42:52,000 --> 01:42:55,920
Speaker 1: way more important. You did everything, and then once you're

2346
01:42:56,080 --> 01:43:00,360
Speaker 1: up in the air, I feel like you're white can

2347
01:43:00,520 --> 01:43:03,040
Speaker 1: just come and sit with you and put your daughter

2348
01:43:03,160 --> 01:43:04,720
Speaker 1: on her lap unless it's a.

2349
01:43:04,720 --> 01:43:06,000
Speaker 3: Moment where they say to buckle up.

2350
01:43:06,160 --> 01:43:08,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, and then you can basically all hang out in

2351
01:43:08,680 --> 01:43:11,120
Speaker 1: first class and then when it's time to land, yeah.

2352
01:43:10,960 --> 01:43:13,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, we'll go back to our peop Yeah yeah.

2353
01:43:13,080 --> 01:43:17,840
Speaker 1: Anyways, you can hear musings like this what Happens Life

2354
01:43:17,880 --> 01:43:19,280
Speaker 1: wherever you find podcasts.

2355
01:43:19,320 --> 01:43:22,439
Speaker 2: Shouts out to one app a cipher sounds Pete, thank

2356
01:43:22,479 --> 01:43:24,719
Speaker 2: you for coming through matth like this conversation was long overdue.

2357
01:43:24,720 --> 01:43:25,840
Speaker 1: I'm glad we got to finally have it.

2358
01:43:25,920 --> 01:43:26,599
Speaker 3: It was long.

2359
01:43:26,800 --> 01:43:29,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, definitely long and overdue.

2360
01:43:29,760 --> 01:43:31,880
Speaker 3: I really appreciate it. Proud of you guys, y'all are

2361
01:43:31,920 --> 01:43:32,320
Speaker 3: doing your.

2362
01:43:32,200 --> 01:43:32,559
Speaker 1: Thank you man.

2363
01:43:32,560 --> 01:43:34,880
Speaker 3: Appreciate going to shame you into coming this Little Brother show.

2364
01:43:35,240 --> 01:43:37,799
Speaker 1: Yeah, I really I really should go. That's gonna be amazing.

2365
01:43:38,080 --> 01:43:40,680
Speaker 1: And I thank you guys for being some of the

2366
01:43:40,840 --> 01:43:42,240
Speaker 1: very few people who I don't hate on. When I

2367
01:43:42,280 --> 01:43:44,360
Speaker 1: see you on the internet, I just enjoy yourself. It's

2368
01:43:44,400 --> 01:43:48,520
Speaker 1: all love. I'm not nigga, he's just Jeju. That's Peter Rosenberg.