1 00:00:04,795 --> 00:00:22,235 Speaker 1: Countdown with Keith Olderman is a production of iHeartRadio. Violation 2 00:00:22,555 --> 00:00:27,155 Speaker 1: of the Georgia Rico Act, solicitation of violation of oath 3 00:00:27,235 --> 00:00:32,795 Speaker 1: by public officer, three counts, Conspiracy to commit impersonating a 4 00:00:32,835 --> 00:00:37,315 Speaker 1: public officer, Conspiracy to commit forgery in the first degree, 5 00:00:37,835 --> 00:00:42,875 Speaker 1: two counts, Conspiracy to commit false statements and writings, two counts, 6 00:00:43,355 --> 00:00:49,395 Speaker 1: conspiracy to commit filing false documents, filing false documents, false 7 00:00:49,555 --> 00:00:57,275 Speaker 1: statements and writings two counts. Thirteen counts in total. The 8 00:00:57,315 --> 00:01:00,995 Speaker 1: former President of the United States is indicted in Georgia 9 00:01:01,035 --> 00:01:05,835 Speaker 1: accused of, in essence, leading a criminal gang which committed 10 00:01:05,875 --> 00:01:09,955 Speaker 1: one one hundred and sixty one separate illegal acts or 11 00:01:09,995 --> 00:01:14,915 Speaker 1: components one hundred and sixty one from the fake elector's 12 00:01:14,955 --> 00:01:19,275 Speaker 1: scheme through the breaching of the voting machines of Coffee County, Georgia, 13 00:01:19,755 --> 00:01:23,075 Speaker 1: to the phone call to Brad Raffensberger to find the 14 00:01:23,155 --> 00:01:26,715 Speaker 1: eleven seven hundred and eighty votes, to the abuse of 15 00:01:26,755 --> 00:01:29,875 Speaker 1: the state poll workers in Georgia, to line to the 16 00:01:29,875 --> 00:01:32,955 Speaker 1: Georgia State Senate to try to bring the Vice president 17 00:01:33,035 --> 00:01:35,875 Speaker 1: in on the conspiracy, to try to bring the Department 18 00:01:35,915 --> 00:01:39,395 Speaker 1: of Justice in on the conspiracy to a specific charge 19 00:01:39,395 --> 00:01:42,955 Speaker 1: that Trump directed his aide Johnny mcintee, to develop a 20 00:01:43,035 --> 00:01:48,155 Speaker 1: specific plan to prevent the electoral vote count and the 21 00:01:48,195 --> 00:01:54,275 Speaker 1: certification from being completed on January sixth, under a state 22 00:01:54,395 --> 00:01:58,555 Speaker 1: racketeering act, the Rico Act, in which a guilty verdict 23 00:01:58,595 --> 00:02:02,835 Speaker 1: carries a mandatory minimum sentence of five years and a 24 00:02:02,875 --> 00:02:06,595 Speaker 1: maximum of twenty with many of the people who acted 25 00:02:06,635 --> 00:02:11,875 Speaker 1: corruptly with him acted corruptly at his insistence, indicted with him, 26 00:02:12,355 --> 00:02:19,235 Speaker 1: eighteen of them Trump and eighteen co defendants Rudy Giuliani, 27 00:02:19,875 --> 00:02:23,075 Speaker 1: the Trump attorney John Eastman, that would be Attorney General 28 00:02:23,155 --> 00:02:27,315 Speaker 1: Jeffrey Clark, the Trump attorney Kenneth cheesebro the Trump attorney 29 00:02:27,355 --> 00:02:31,555 Speaker 1: Sidney Powell, the Trump attorney Jenna Ellis, the former chair 30 00:02:31,635 --> 00:02:35,475 Speaker 1: of the Coffee County Republican Party, Kathy Latham, an operative 31 00:02:35,515 --> 00:02:38,755 Speaker 1: in the voting machine breach, There a fake elector herself, 32 00:02:38,875 --> 00:02:43,915 Speaker 1: the hat trick of crime, and surprisingly political operative Mike Roman, 33 00:02:44,195 --> 00:02:47,795 Speaker 1: and Trump's last chief of staff, Mark Meadows. Roman and 34 00:02:47,915 --> 00:02:51,155 Speaker 1: Meadows may have been cooperating in the Jack Smith federal 35 00:02:51,235 --> 00:02:53,515 Speaker 1: version of this case, or they may not have been, 36 00:02:54,155 --> 00:02:58,435 Speaker 1: but they clearly were not cooperating with Fannie Willis. Others 37 00:02:58,475 --> 00:03:03,835 Speaker 1: of those indicted included more of the fake electors, nineteen defendants, 38 00:03:04,835 --> 00:03:09,155 Speaker 1: nineteen defendants who have until a week from Friday to 39 00:03:09,355 --> 00:03:14,915 Speaker 1: turn themselves in in Georgia. There are arrest warrants ready 40 00:03:14,995 --> 00:03:18,715 Speaker 1: for each of them. There is an arrest warrant ready 41 00:03:18,875 --> 00:03:23,875 Speaker 1: for Donald Trump. There is a mugshot camera ready for 42 00:03:23,955 --> 00:03:30,675 Speaker 1: Donald Trump. Oh, and there are thirty unindicted co conspirators. 43 00:03:30,795 --> 00:03:37,115 Speaker 1: There is an unindicted co conspirator number thirty. It is breathtaking, 44 00:03:37,635 --> 00:03:43,355 Speaker 1: It is sprawling, It is ninety eight pages long. It 45 00:03:43,475 --> 00:03:48,835 Speaker 1: is national. Prosecutors say the criminal enterprise operated obviously in 46 00:03:48,875 --> 00:03:52,195 Speaker 1: the state of Georgia, but also in the District of Columbia, 47 00:03:52,315 --> 00:03:56,955 Speaker 1: in Arizona, in Michigan, in Nevada, New Mexico, Pennsylvania, Wisconsin. 48 00:03:58,835 --> 00:04:01,755 Speaker 1: It makes Jack Smith look like he's throwing six darts 49 00:04:02,195 --> 00:04:06,035 Speaker 1: while Fannie Willis has brought a six foot tall pile 50 00:04:06,075 --> 00:04:11,155 Speaker 1: of arrows with her. The trials could go on for years, 51 00:04:11,675 --> 00:04:14,835 Speaker 1: Like Wyatt earp chasing down the Clanton Gang went on 52 00:04:14,915 --> 00:04:19,035 Speaker 1: for years. Hell analyzing this indictment could go on for years, 53 00:04:19,275 --> 00:04:22,635 Speaker 1: no wonder. This became the first ever prime time edition 54 00:04:22,755 --> 00:04:27,395 Speaker 1: of the Donald Trump gets indicted again show this is 55 00:04:27,435 --> 00:04:33,115 Speaker 1: the war and peace of American political criminology, and that 56 00:04:33,275 --> 00:04:37,635 Speaker 1: may be the point ultimately in our worst nightmares. On 57 00:04:37,675 --> 00:04:41,635 Speaker 1: the morning of January twentieth, twenty twenty five, Trump, whether 58 00:04:41,715 --> 00:04:46,155 Speaker 1: indicted or convicted, or still on trial or still on 59 00:04:46,235 --> 00:04:51,595 Speaker 1: trial in multiple states or any other Republican, is sworn 60 00:04:51,635 --> 00:04:55,395 Speaker 1: in as president of the United States and tries to 61 00:04:55,475 --> 00:04:59,275 Speaker 1: pardon himself or can cause his new Attorney general to 62 00:04:59,435 --> 00:05:03,115 Speaker 1: drop every single charge already brought by Jack Smith, or 63 00:05:03,155 --> 00:05:08,835 Speaker 1: pardon every conviction ever achieved for a jury, and he 64 00:05:08,875 --> 00:05:13,595 Speaker 1: gets away with it. He does not get away with 65 00:05:13,635 --> 00:05:18,235 Speaker 1: it in Georgia. For once, the tyranny of time and 66 00:05:18,355 --> 00:05:24,435 Speaker 1: the law's delay is working on our side. There are 67 00:05:24,755 --> 00:05:27,755 Speaker 1: ways for Trump to wriggle out of this in Georgia, 68 00:05:27,835 --> 00:05:31,075 Speaker 1: as he has wriggled out of everything else so far. 69 00:05:32,035 --> 00:05:35,675 Speaker 1: But he has no magic wand in Georgia to make 70 00:05:35,715 --> 00:05:38,915 Speaker 1: this go away, and cannot achieve one simply by being 71 00:05:38,955 --> 00:05:45,675 Speaker 1: elected president. It would involve a convoluted fight against every 72 00:05:45,795 --> 00:05:49,115 Speaker 1: facet every one of these one hundred and sixty one 73 00:05:49,195 --> 00:05:53,875 Speaker 1: criminal acts, every one of these eighteen co defendants, every 74 00:05:53,915 --> 00:05:57,835 Speaker 1: one of these thirty unindicted co conspirators and every piece 75 00:05:57,875 --> 00:06:03,355 Speaker 1: of evidence they have, and one at a time. And 76 00:06:03,395 --> 00:06:06,315 Speaker 1: at her news conference just before midnight last night, Fani 77 00:06:06,395 --> 00:06:09,795 Speaker 1: Willis said she hopes to begin trial within six months, 78 00:06:10,115 --> 00:06:13,355 Speaker 1: and if she manages that, she gets an Olympic gold 79 00:06:13,395 --> 00:06:15,995 Speaker 1: medal and she breaks the world record for the mile 80 00:06:17,075 --> 00:06:24,435 Speaker 1: several times. This trial, these trials, this extraordinary event, will 81 00:06:24,475 --> 00:06:30,755 Speaker 1: not begin this year nor early next. And we only 82 00:06:30,795 --> 00:06:33,755 Speaker 1: have an infinite amount of time here on a podcast, 83 00:06:33,835 --> 00:06:35,795 Speaker 1: so I will not try to drill down on the 84 00:06:35,875 --> 00:06:40,235 Speaker 1: charges yet. With one exception from a cursory skim of 85 00:06:40,275 --> 00:06:43,875 Speaker 1: this book length indictment, I would direct you to page 86 00:06:43,955 --> 00:06:47,755 Speaker 1: twenty four and predicate Act number nineteen, which I think 87 00:06:47,835 --> 00:06:51,435 Speaker 1: distills in a way we have not seen before anywhere 88 00:06:51,755 --> 00:06:57,875 Speaker 1: the entirety of the Trump coup plot into one heinous thread. 89 00:06:58,955 --> 00:07:02,275 Speaker 1: I quote from the indictment. On or between the first 90 00:07:02,355 --> 00:07:05,355 Speaker 1: day of December twenty twenty and the first day of 91 00:07:05,355 --> 00:07:09,075 Speaker 1: December twenty twenty, Donald John Trump and Mark Randall Meadows 92 00:07:09,515 --> 00:07:13,835 Speaker 1: met with John mcintee and requested that mcintee prepared a 93 00:07:13,915 --> 00:07:18,515 Speaker 1: memorandum outlining a strategy for disrupting and delaying the Joint 94 00:07:18,555 --> 00:07:22,435 Speaker 1: Session of Congress on January sixth, twenty twenty one. The 95 00:07:22,475 --> 00:07:26,555 Speaker 1: strategy included having Vice President Pence count only half of 96 00:07:26,595 --> 00:07:30,035 Speaker 1: the electoral votes from certain states and return the remaining 97 00:07:30,075 --> 00:07:35,195 Speaker 1: electoral votes to state legislatures. The request was an overt 98 00:07:35,315 --> 00:07:43,355 Speaker 1: act in furtherance of the conspiracy unquote. That is, in effect, 99 00:07:43,715 --> 00:07:48,315 Speaker 1: the origin point, the center spot in this web, the 100 00:07:48,395 --> 00:07:51,915 Speaker 1: moment at which, in the timeline of this infamy, that 101 00:07:52,075 --> 00:07:55,235 Speaker 1: any doubt was erased, that any thought that this attempt 102 00:07:55,315 --> 00:07:58,635 Speaker 1: to scal the election was somehow ad hoc or somehow 103 00:07:58,675 --> 00:08:02,235 Speaker 1: an accidental outgrowth from a sincere belief that there had 104 00:08:02,235 --> 00:08:06,075 Speaker 1: been fraud or deceit. That is the moment page twenty 105 00:08:06,115 --> 00:08:11,755 Speaker 1: four predicate, Act number nineteen where such an assumption vanishes. 106 00:08:12,355 --> 00:08:16,875 Speaker 1: That is the point at which this becomes the Donald 107 00:08:17,075 --> 00:08:24,115 Speaker 1: Trump plot to overturn the election. Fannie Willis is charging 108 00:08:24,195 --> 00:08:28,395 Speaker 1: Trump and Meadows not just with firing the smoking gun, 109 00:08:29,155 --> 00:08:36,675 Speaker 1: but withholding the meeting at which the smoking gun was loaded. Incredibly, 110 00:08:37,155 --> 00:08:42,155 Speaker 1: it is still very possible that ultimately the Atlanta indictments 111 00:08:42,395 --> 00:08:46,315 Speaker 1: on charges pertaining to the attempt to steal a presidential 112 00:08:46,395 --> 00:08:52,675 Speaker 1: election and end American democracy, they might not actually be 113 00:08:52,835 --> 00:08:56,075 Speaker 1: the real lead story anyway, because there is the rather 114 00:08:56,195 --> 00:09:00,475 Speaker 1: startling prospect on the side but glowing in the dark, 115 00:09:00,875 --> 00:09:06,755 Speaker 1: that Donald Trump in Georgia it might not be granted bail. 116 00:09:08,315 --> 00:09:12,275 Speaker 1: The Georgia statutes are pretty cut and dried here. Quote. 117 00:09:12,315 --> 00:09:14,955 Speaker 1: A court shall be authorized to release a person on 118 00:09:14,995 --> 00:09:18,115 Speaker 1: bail if the court finds that the person A poses 119 00:09:18,155 --> 00:09:20,795 Speaker 1: no significant risk of fleeing from the jurisdiction of the 120 00:09:20,835 --> 00:09:24,435 Speaker 1: court or failing to appear in court when required. B 121 00:09:25,115 --> 00:09:28,115 Speaker 1: poses no significant threat or danger to any person to 122 00:09:28,155 --> 00:09:31,115 Speaker 1: the community or to any property in the community. C 123 00:09:31,675 --> 00:09:35,755 Speaker 1: poses no significant risk of committing any felony pending trial. 124 00:09:35,955 --> 00:09:40,275 Speaker 1: And and this is the big one. D poses no 125 00:09:40,475 --> 00:09:45,475 Speaker 1: significant risk of intimidating witnesses or otherwise obstructing the administration 126 00:09:45,595 --> 00:09:52,915 Speaker 1: of justice. Un quote all right, uh define significant. At 127 00:09:52,915 --> 00:09:56,315 Speaker 1: eight fifty eight Eastern Monday morning, Trump posted quote, I 128 00:09:56,355 --> 00:09:59,835 Speaker 1: am reading reports that failed Lieutenant governor of Georgia, Jeff Duncan, 129 00:09:59,875 --> 00:10:03,275 Speaker 1: will be testifying before the Fulton County grand Jury. He 130 00:10:03,475 --> 00:10:09,515 Speaker 1: shouldn't does publicly telling a former lieutenant governor that he 131 00:10:09,675 --> 00:10:14,555 Speaker 1: shouldn't testify without a reason, without an adjective, without an 132 00:10:14,595 --> 00:10:19,195 Speaker 1: explicit threat, Does that indicate that Trump poses no significant 133 00:10:19,275 --> 00:10:23,675 Speaker 1: risk of intimidating witnesses or that he poses some significant 134 00:10:23,755 --> 00:10:27,275 Speaker 1: risk of intimidating witnesses. How about assessing that in the 135 00:10:27,315 --> 00:10:29,675 Speaker 1: context of the fact that, in the preceding eight and 136 00:10:29,675 --> 00:10:32,635 Speaker 1: a half hours Trump had used that same platform to 137 00:10:32,755 --> 00:10:36,675 Speaker 1: attack and threaten the prosecutor in the three federal cases 138 00:10:36,715 --> 00:10:39,355 Speaker 1: pending against him, and then to attack and threaten the 139 00:10:39,515 --> 00:10:42,275 Speaker 1: judge in one of the federal cases pending against him, 140 00:10:42,355 --> 00:10:45,115 Speaker 1: and then attack and threaten the Department of Justice, which 141 00:10:45,155 --> 00:10:48,235 Speaker 1: is prosecuting him in all of the federal cases pending 142 00:10:48,275 --> 00:10:53,715 Speaker 1: against him. If anybody anywhere who is not unconscious is 143 00:10:53,755 --> 00:10:58,235 Speaker 1: not already seeing a pattern here, Trump took the interval 144 00:10:58,275 --> 00:11:00,995 Speaker 1: between the handing up of the Atlanta indictments and their 145 00:11:00,995 --> 00:11:04,475 Speaker 1: public release last night to symbolically stand up on a 146 00:11:04,795 --> 00:11:08,995 Speaker 1: chair and scream I'm still here and I'm still intimidating 147 00:11:09,035 --> 00:11:15,795 Speaker 1: witnesses or otherwise obstructing the administration of justice his campaign. 148 00:11:16,595 --> 00:11:20,875 Speaker 1: His cult released at ten oh four Eastern a seven 149 00:11:21,035 --> 00:11:24,875 Speaker 1: paragraph statement in which he smears da Fani Willis as 150 00:11:24,955 --> 00:11:28,955 Speaker 1: quote corrupt and quote biased, and insists the grand jury 151 00:11:28,995 --> 00:11:33,955 Speaker 1: produced quote fabricated accusations and reminded the Georgia penal system 152 00:11:33,955 --> 00:11:36,715 Speaker 1: that Trump quote will never give up and will never 153 00:11:36,795 --> 00:11:43,355 Speaker 1: stop fighting, A won't flee or fail to appear in court. Well, 154 00:11:43,395 --> 00:11:45,435 Speaker 1: I could see him refuse to show up, especially if 155 00:11:45,475 --> 00:11:48,155 Speaker 1: the trial is going badly where the verdict is due 156 00:11:48,275 --> 00:11:51,275 Speaker 1: or worse yet, the sentencing. But he has not missed 157 00:11:51,275 --> 00:11:53,595 Speaker 1: a court date yet anywhere else, and God knows there 158 00:11:53,595 --> 00:11:56,035 Speaker 1: have been enough of them already. He's already had as 159 00:11:56,035 --> 00:12:00,875 Speaker 1: many in person court appearances this year as wives. So 160 00:12:00,955 --> 00:12:04,635 Speaker 1: he's probably clear on a b no threat or day 161 00:12:04,955 --> 00:12:08,635 Speaker 1: in the community. Probably not not in Atlanta anyway, see 162 00:12:08,835 --> 00:12:13,715 Speaker 1: committing any felony pending trial while are we counting intimidating 163 00:12:13,715 --> 00:12:17,275 Speaker 1: witnesses or the prosecutors or the judges in other cases 164 00:12:17,475 --> 00:12:21,915 Speaker 1: or is that just d It would take the guts 165 00:12:21,915 --> 00:12:24,635 Speaker 1: of a cat burglar for a county superior judge anywhere 166 00:12:24,675 --> 00:12:26,915 Speaker 1: in this country to rule that a former president of 167 00:12:26,955 --> 00:12:31,195 Speaker 1: the United States, even this amoral schmuck, is not eligible 168 00:12:31,235 --> 00:12:34,235 Speaker 1: for bail because of his repeated threats towards figures in 169 00:12:34,235 --> 00:12:37,395 Speaker 1: this case and others. But that supposedly is why some 170 00:12:37,475 --> 00:12:40,835 Speaker 1: people are judges. I mean, they can't all be members 171 00:12:40,835 --> 00:12:44,955 Speaker 1: of the Federalist Society, and so far in his months 172 00:12:44,955 --> 00:12:48,155 Speaker 1: on the periphery of this case, Judge Robert McBurney of 173 00:12:48,195 --> 00:12:50,835 Speaker 1: Georgia has shown the guts of a cat burglar. Indeed, 174 00:12:51,595 --> 00:12:54,075 Speaker 1: but we don't even know that McBurnie will get this case. 175 00:12:55,235 --> 00:12:58,955 Speaker 1: The simplest measure of what McBurnie, or whichever judge does 176 00:12:59,075 --> 00:13:03,075 Speaker 1: draw the assignment, should do is the swapout rule. It's 177 00:13:03,075 --> 00:13:05,355 Speaker 1: not the state of Georgia versus Donald Trump. It's the 178 00:13:05,355 --> 00:13:09,195 Speaker 1: state of Georgia versus you or me or any of 179 00:13:09,235 --> 00:13:14,035 Speaker 1: Trump's co defendants listed alphabetically or by age or height. 180 00:13:15,275 --> 00:13:18,595 Speaker 1: You know, the eighteen people. It takes five minutes to 181 00:13:18,755 --> 00:13:23,275 Speaker 1: just read the list aloud. Of any of us, we 182 00:13:23,315 --> 00:13:27,195 Speaker 1: would not be granted bail, or we might be granted 183 00:13:27,195 --> 00:13:30,635 Speaker 1: it under only the most stringent of conditions, probably confined 184 00:13:30,675 --> 00:13:32,955 Speaker 1: to the state of Georgia in the interim, or maybe 185 00:13:32,995 --> 00:13:36,195 Speaker 1: to house arrest wearing an ankle monitor. And you and 186 00:13:36,355 --> 00:13:40,475 Speaker 1: I do not own our own social media websites, nor 187 00:13:40,555 --> 00:13:43,475 Speaker 1: lead our own cults, nor talk to their members in 188 00:13:43,515 --> 00:13:46,435 Speaker 1: the language of terrorism by remote control, nor do it 189 00:13:46,475 --> 00:13:49,155 Speaker 1: so efficiently that just last week one of the cultists 190 00:13:49,595 --> 00:13:52,755 Speaker 1: openly threatened to assassinate the president of the United States 191 00:13:53,035 --> 00:13:56,155 Speaker 1: and dared the FBI to do anything about it, and 192 00:13:56,275 --> 00:13:59,275 Speaker 1: when they did, he actually thought he could shoot it 193 00:13:59,355 --> 00:14:05,435 Speaker 1: out with the FBI. And now he's dead. I am 194 00:14:05,435 --> 00:14:09,155 Speaker 1: not expecting them to refuse Trump bail because, frankly, the 195 00:14:09,155 --> 00:14:11,515 Speaker 1: prosecutor and the judge who do that would be well 196 00:14:11,555 --> 00:14:15,435 Speaker 1: aware that the threat of political violence works, and they 197 00:14:15,475 --> 00:14:18,035 Speaker 1: would have something on their hands the likes of which 198 00:14:18,075 --> 00:14:20,755 Speaker 1: we have not seen before in this country, something that 199 00:14:20,795 --> 00:14:24,675 Speaker 1: the world would compare to Lula in Brazil, or maybe 200 00:14:24,715 --> 00:14:28,475 Speaker 1: what's happening in Niger or Myanmar, or hell, maybe the 201 00:14:28,515 --> 00:14:33,075 Speaker 1: world would compare it to Napoleon. But the judge could 202 00:14:33,115 --> 00:14:37,915 Speaker 1: easily begin with sterner restrictions on what Trump can say 203 00:14:37,995 --> 00:14:40,835 Speaker 1: and cannot say at what happens to him if he 204 00:14:40,915 --> 00:14:44,995 Speaker 1: says it, then did Judge Chutkin in Washington, And they 205 00:14:45,035 --> 00:14:49,995 Speaker 1: should because sooner rather than later, the American justice system is, 206 00:14:50,075 --> 00:14:53,675 Speaker 1: as I said yesterday, going to have to break Donald Trump, 207 00:14:53,915 --> 00:14:57,155 Speaker 1: or Donald Trump will break the justice system. And so 208 00:14:57,355 --> 00:15:01,035 Speaker 1: far there is no indication that Judge Chuckkin or Jack 209 00:15:01,075 --> 00:15:04,555 Speaker 1: Smith has even begun the process of caging Trump's will 210 00:15:04,675 --> 00:15:07,475 Speaker 1: winginess to ignore the laws of this nation and spit 211 00:15:07,635 --> 00:15:12,075 Speaker 1: at those who defend those laws. Smith pushed back yesterday 212 00:15:12,115 --> 00:15:15,155 Speaker 1: against Trump, but against his demand for a special skiff, 213 00:15:15,595 --> 00:15:19,035 Speaker 1: a secure facility for reading the classified documents in the 214 00:15:19,075 --> 00:15:22,355 Speaker 1: Florida case, the one he wants at his home. Jack 215 00:15:22,395 --> 00:15:26,035 Speaker 1: Smith was quiet about the Washington indictments and the Trump 216 00:15:26,235 --> 00:15:32,955 Speaker 1: threats on Sunday night and Monday morning. However, quote while 217 00:15:33,075 --> 00:15:36,515 Speaker 1: on release, if you commit a federal felony offense, the 218 00:15:36,555 --> 00:15:39,595 Speaker 1: punishment is an additional prison term of not more than 219 00:15:39,675 --> 00:15:43,315 Speaker 1: ten years. It is a crime punishable by up to 220 00:15:43,395 --> 00:15:45,475 Speaker 1: ten years in prison and a two hundred and fifty 221 00:15:45,515 --> 00:15:50,315 Speaker 1: thousand dollars fine, or both. To obstruct a criminal investigation, 222 00:15:51,155 --> 00:15:56,715 Speaker 1: tamper with a witness, victim or informant, retaliate or attempt 223 00:15:56,755 --> 00:16:02,435 Speaker 1: to retaliate against a witness, victim or informant, or intimidate 224 00:16:03,075 --> 00:16:07,235 Speaker 1: or attempt to intimidate a witness, victim, juror informant, or 225 00:16:07,795 --> 00:16:13,355 Speaker 1: officer of the court. I have quoted there from the 226 00:16:13,395 --> 00:16:17,235 Speaker 1: instructions that Judge Truckton gave Trump and his attorneys last week. 227 00:16:19,755 --> 00:16:26,875 Speaker 1: Last week, Trump attempted to intimidate two officers of the 228 00:16:26,875 --> 00:16:30,155 Speaker 1: court hearing this case and a witness in another case 229 00:16:30,355 --> 00:16:32,515 Speaker 1: in a span of eight and a half hours on 230 00:16:32,635 --> 00:16:36,515 Speaker 1: Sunday night and Monday morning. A judge in Fulton County, 231 00:16:36,555 --> 00:16:39,595 Speaker 1: Georgia may not have the heft to decide to take 232 00:16:39,635 --> 00:16:42,875 Speaker 1: what remains of our supposedly peaceful political system, the part 233 00:16:42,915 --> 00:16:45,875 Speaker 1: Trump has not yet destroyed, and balance it atop the 234 00:16:45,995 --> 00:16:49,835 Speaker 1: Washington Monument and hope it does not fall off. The 235 00:16:50,035 --> 00:16:53,795 Speaker 1: idea that the judge will preside over a trial that 236 00:16:53,835 --> 00:16:56,955 Speaker 1: could convict Donald Trump of something he could not pardon 237 00:16:57,315 --> 00:17:01,075 Speaker 1: or overturn or have overturned on his behalf may be 238 00:17:01,315 --> 00:17:04,715 Speaker 1: burden enough for the judge in Fulton County, whoever he 239 00:17:04,875 --> 00:17:08,595 Speaker 1: or she turns out to be. But a federal judge 240 00:17:09,035 --> 00:17:12,715 Speaker 1: hearing a case in which the defendant attempted to overthrow democracy, 241 00:17:12,995 --> 00:17:17,075 Speaker 1: steal an election, cause harm or death to congressman, senators, 242 00:17:17,155 --> 00:17:20,115 Speaker 1: the Vice president, and peace officers, and, according to the 243 00:17:20,155 --> 00:17:23,675 Speaker 1: Atlanta indictment, planned it out at a meeting with Mark 244 00:17:23,755 --> 00:17:29,715 Speaker 1: Meadows and Johnny mcintee. A federal judge has that heft, 245 00:17:30,755 --> 00:17:34,555 Speaker 1: and she damn well better use it, because the forces 246 00:17:34,715 --> 00:17:38,555 Speaker 1: arrayed against democracy now against the future of representative government 247 00:17:38,595 --> 00:17:41,555 Speaker 1: of any kind in this country. Against violence is our 248 00:17:41,635 --> 00:17:46,235 Speaker 1: primary means of political communication. They are not backing down. 249 00:17:47,115 --> 00:17:56,915 Speaker 1: Lindsey Graham desperate, skulking, venomous, treasonous, despicable, decayed, putrid. Lindsey 250 00:17:57,035 --> 00:18:02,235 Speaker 1: Graham spoke for all of the fiends last night. This 251 00:18:02,275 --> 00:18:06,235 Speaker 1: should be decided at the ballot box. He had the 252 00:18:06,275 --> 00:18:09,875 Speaker 1: nerve to say on Fox and not in a bunch 253 00:18:09,915 --> 00:18:13,515 Speaker 1: of liberal jurisdictions trying to put the man in jail. 254 00:18:15,875 --> 00:18:20,315 Speaker 1: We did decide it at the ballot box. And then 255 00:18:20,915 --> 00:18:25,915 Speaker 1: Trump decided to betray this nation and try to overturn 256 00:18:26,075 --> 00:18:31,475 Speaker 1: that election. And you, Lindsey Graham, you helped him, you 257 00:18:31,675 --> 00:18:38,275 Speaker 1: little shit. Two other notes. You may have heard this 258 00:18:38,395 --> 00:18:42,115 Speaker 1: story Joe Biden on vacation on a beach in Delaware 259 00:18:42,275 --> 00:18:45,075 Speaker 1: and a question shouted at him asking if he had 260 00:18:45,195 --> 00:18:48,435 Speaker 1: any comment on the rising death toll in Maui, and 261 00:18:48,555 --> 00:18:55,035 Speaker 1: he answered no comment. Completely fabricated, completely, This was the 262 00:18:55,035 --> 00:18:59,395 Speaker 1: work of the White House press pool reporter. They're chosen randomly. 263 00:18:59,795 --> 00:19:02,595 Speaker 1: This one is as random as it gets. His name 264 00:19:02,675 --> 00:19:05,595 Speaker 1: is Rob Crilly. He is from the Britginish publication The 265 00:19:05,715 --> 00:19:09,235 Speaker 1: Daily Mail. It is not a newspaper per se, and 266 00:19:09,475 --> 00:19:12,675 Speaker 1: Krilly is nowhere close to being a journalist. His most 267 00:19:12,675 --> 00:19:16,195 Speaker 1: recent work has been stories quoting sources insisting America was 268 00:19:16,435 --> 00:19:20,635 Speaker 1: flooded with terrorists after the withdrawal from Afghanistan, and other 269 00:19:20,675 --> 00:19:24,355 Speaker 1: stories about how popular Robert F. Kennedy Junior is and 270 00:19:24,435 --> 00:19:29,075 Speaker 1: how the Trump indictments mean America is reminiscent of Nazi Germany. 271 00:19:29,435 --> 00:19:32,795 Speaker 1: What he's doing as the White House pool reporter is 272 00:19:32,835 --> 00:19:36,275 Speaker 1: anybody's guests. What he's doing, accredited by the White House 273 00:19:36,315 --> 00:19:40,475 Speaker 1: Correspondence Association, is just more evidence of that organization's long 274 00:19:40,755 --> 00:19:45,395 Speaker 1: time slovenliness. But here's the kicker. The truth could survive 275 00:19:45,635 --> 00:19:48,515 Speaker 1: all that Rob Crilly is and isn't, and all that 276 00:19:48,555 --> 00:19:51,715 Speaker 1: the Correspondence Association is and isn't. But what it can't 277 00:19:51,755 --> 00:19:56,035 Speaker 1: survive is Rob Crilly making up what he thinks. Joe 278 00:19:56,035 --> 00:19:59,155 Speaker 1: Biden said when he was asked for comment about Hawaii, 279 00:19:59,675 --> 00:20:03,715 Speaker 1: Crilly's official pool report from the Beach, I'm quoting it 280 00:20:03,835 --> 00:20:07,115 Speaker 1: in its entirety. Potus stopped when he heard a question 281 00:20:07,275 --> 00:20:10,555 Speaker 1: asking any comment on the rising death toll in Maui. 282 00:20:11,235 --> 00:20:17,555 Speaker 1: He appeared to say no, no comment, according to lip 283 00:20:17,715 --> 00:20:21,795 Speaker 1: readers in the pool, but could not be heard he 284 00:20:21,835 --> 00:20:24,515 Speaker 1: climbed into the suv, which then left in the motorcade 285 00:20:24,555 --> 00:20:27,315 Speaker 1: for the short journey up his street and lid at 286 00:20:27,395 --> 00:20:33,595 Speaker 1: nineteen oh five. Thanks to all copoolers for lip reading unquote. 287 00:20:34,835 --> 00:20:39,235 Speaker 1: So Biden's supposedly callous response to the worsening reality of 288 00:20:39,275 --> 00:20:44,635 Speaker 1: Hawaii was not heard by the pool reporter, by any reporter, 289 00:20:44,995 --> 00:20:49,035 Speaker 1: by anybody near the reporters, but lip readers think they 290 00:20:49,075 --> 00:20:51,915 Speaker 1: know what he said and were willing to put quotation 291 00:20:52,035 --> 00:20:56,155 Speaker 1: marks around it. I don't know how many White House 292 00:20:56,155 --> 00:20:58,475 Speaker 1: reporters I've met over the last quarter century, but a 293 00:20:58,475 --> 00:21:02,355 Speaker 1: clear majority of them cannot understand things that are clearly 294 00:21:02,475 --> 00:21:06,435 Speaker 1: explained to them aloud, and half of those who can 295 00:21:06,955 --> 00:21:09,995 Speaker 1: cannot understand the meaning of those things. But now we're 296 00:21:10,035 --> 00:21:12,155 Speaker 1: putting words in the mouth of the President of the 297 00:21:12,235 --> 00:21:15,755 Speaker 1: United States about a disaster with deaths in triple digits, 298 00:21:15,955 --> 00:21:20,035 Speaker 1: because all of a sudden they are all qualified lipreaders. 299 00:21:21,355 --> 00:21:23,395 Speaker 1: The White House should have come out punching the moment 300 00:21:23,435 --> 00:21:26,395 Speaker 1: the story broke yesterday afternoon. It should have gotten the 301 00:21:26,395 --> 00:21:30,035 Speaker 1: Correspondence Association to get Curly to retract, or at least 302 00:21:30,035 --> 00:21:33,275 Speaker 1: confirm he heard no such thing and is guessing or 303 00:21:33,315 --> 00:21:36,195 Speaker 1: it should have reclaimed its sole right to control who 304 00:21:36,235 --> 00:21:38,715 Speaker 1: does and does not get to cover the president and 305 00:21:38,795 --> 00:21:42,755 Speaker 1: get into the White House. Instead, it issued a statement 306 00:21:42,795 --> 00:21:45,435 Speaker 1: saying President Biden was praying for the people of Hawaii. 307 00:21:47,155 --> 00:21:48,515 Speaker 1: A lot of the people in the White House are 308 00:21:48,515 --> 00:21:53,035 Speaker 1: not qualified to play the game at this level. Amateur 309 00:21:53,115 --> 00:21:56,355 Speaker 1: lip readers operating from thirty or more feet away think 310 00:21:56,435 --> 00:22:01,475 Speaker 1: the President may have said no comment becomes simply an 311 00:22:01,595 --> 00:22:08,315 Speaker 1: unqualified quotation of Joe Biden for all time Rob Crilly, 312 00:22:09,915 --> 00:22:14,435 Speaker 1: which segues into today's comic relief talk about actually hearing 313 00:22:14,475 --> 00:22:17,915 Speaker 1: what somebody said, rather than just guesses about what they said. 314 00:22:18,155 --> 00:22:23,115 Speaker 1: The Ronnie Jackson body cam video is out. Well it's 315 00:22:23,155 --> 00:22:27,195 Speaker 1: the police bodycam video, and well it's only twenty nine 316 00:22:27,275 --> 00:22:30,435 Speaker 1: seconds of it, possibly because it was the cleanest twenty 317 00:22:30,515 --> 00:22:33,675 Speaker 1: nine seconds they had. In the twenty nine seconds, Jackson 318 00:22:33,755 --> 00:22:38,715 Speaker 1: emits only two F bombs. The congressman insisted immediately after 319 00:22:38,795 --> 00:22:41,115 Speaker 1: this happened he was not drunk and that he was 320 00:22:41,195 --> 00:22:43,795 Speaker 1: respectful as police told him to back away from a 321 00:22:43,835 --> 00:22:49,995 Speaker 1: girl who was having a seizure at the m RELLLL rodeo. Yeah, 322 00:22:50,155 --> 00:22:57,595 Speaker 1: not so much. You did not You were a fu 323 00:23:01,955 --> 00:23:10,395 Speaker 1: recaculating up. Nobody else is gonna get everybody here asking. 324 00:23:18,395 --> 00:23:21,995 Speaker 1: I can read his lips and he is not praying. 325 00:23:27,435 --> 00:23:31,315 Speaker 1: Also of interest, funniest dog gone thing. The political website 326 00:23:31,475 --> 00:23:35,115 Speaker 1: roll Call has gone through the list of Joe Mansion's 327 00:23:35,195 --> 00:23:39,275 Speaker 1: latest donors and like a dozen of them all work 328 00:23:40,355 --> 00:23:45,315 Speaker 1: for the same television network. You want to guess which 329 00:23:45,355 --> 00:23:53,675 Speaker 1: television network? No, not that one. Mmm, not that one either, Yeah, 330 00:23:53,755 --> 00:23:59,835 Speaker 1: that one. That's next. This is countdown. This is countdown 331 00:24:00,075 --> 00:24:10,835 Speaker 1: with Keith Olberman. Postscripts to the news, some headline, some updates, 332 00:24:10,835 --> 00:24:16,155 Speaker 1: some snark, some predictions, dateline, campaign finance, reform City Arizona, 333 00:24:16,795 --> 00:24:19,595 Speaker 1: which is a place that does not exist and never will. 334 00:24:20,195 --> 00:24:23,515 Speaker 1: The website roll Call reporting that just under two million, 335 00:24:23,555 --> 00:24:28,435 Speaker 1: three hundred thousand dollars in campaign contributions to sixteen House 336 00:24:28,515 --> 00:24:32,595 Speaker 1: and Senate members in this cycle alone has gone to 337 00:24:32,635 --> 00:24:38,835 Speaker 1: repaying loans to their campaigns made by themselves. Memet Oz 338 00:24:38,915 --> 00:24:42,515 Speaker 1: took back a million two from contributions. Ron Johnson four 339 00:24:42,595 --> 00:24:44,915 Speaker 1: hundred thousand, and some of his self loans were from 340 00:24:44,955 --> 00:24:49,035 Speaker 1: his campaign in twenty ten. Jd Vance four hundred and 341 00:24:49,075 --> 00:24:52,675 Speaker 1: eighty thousand. That's out of a million one raised. George 342 00:24:52,835 --> 00:24:57,075 Speaker 1: Santos has raised two hundred and nine grand since his election. 343 00:24:57,995 --> 00:25:00,075 Speaker 1: A lot of people want to underwrite a con man, 344 00:25:00,555 --> 00:25:03,675 Speaker 1: and he has given eighty five thousand of that to himself. 345 00:25:04,875 --> 00:25:20,995 Speaker 1: Perhaps Katara ravashe thank you, Nancy faus Sa and Tos 346 00:25:21,035 --> 00:25:27,395 Speaker 1: Santos makes the very best CA Dateline Charleston, West Virginia, OH. 347 00:25:28,155 --> 00:25:31,995 Speaker 1: Speaking of contributions, an interesting list of donors to Senator 348 00:25:32,075 --> 00:25:35,755 Speaker 1: Joe Manchin revealed by the website The Intercept thirty three 349 00:25:35,875 --> 00:25:40,195 Speaker 1: hundred dollars from Jack Abernethy, sixty six hundred from Adrian Farley, 350 00:25:40,235 --> 00:25:43,795 Speaker 1: another sixty six hundred from Jamie Gillespie, fifteen hundred from 351 00:25:43,795 --> 00:25:48,475 Speaker 1: Mike Mulbihill, a thousand from Fernando zoo viat Din and 352 00:25:48,555 --> 00:25:51,355 Speaker 1: four of his friends donated a total of eleven three 353 00:25:51,395 --> 00:25:55,435 Speaker 1: hundred and fifty. Who are these people? Why they are 354 00:25:55,515 --> 00:26:01,835 Speaker 1: all executives and lawyers for Fox. Jack Abernethy is CEO 355 00:26:01,915 --> 00:26:06,235 Speaker 1: of Fox TV Stations. Malbihill is the raiding expert in sports, 356 00:26:06,475 --> 00:26:08,795 Speaker 1: and Dinn was the lawyer who thought they could beat 357 00:26:08,875 --> 00:26:13,435 Speaker 1: dominion in court. And they all love Joe Mansion and 358 00:26:13,595 --> 00:26:18,555 Speaker 1: Dateline Hudson Yards, New York. CNN has retooled its entire 359 00:26:18,795 --> 00:26:22,955 Speaker 1: anchor lineup or has it a lot of stories about 360 00:26:22,995 --> 00:26:25,875 Speaker 1: this yesterday, I mean a lot. The most publicity CNN 361 00:26:25,915 --> 00:26:28,995 Speaker 1: has gotten since the last time Chris licked led himself 362 00:26:29,035 --> 00:26:32,035 Speaker 1: on fire. And I think every one of these stories 363 00:26:32,155 --> 00:26:36,715 Speaker 1: missed the point, and ultimately that is the point. Phil 364 00:26:36,755 --> 00:26:39,995 Speaker 1: Mattingley is the new morning co anchor, except he has 365 00:26:40,035 --> 00:26:44,395 Speaker 1: been filling in as morning co anchor since spring. Abby 366 00:26:44,435 --> 00:26:47,955 Speaker 1: Phillip will anchor at ten PM, Laura Coates at eleven, 367 00:26:48,715 --> 00:26:51,715 Speaker 1: but Abby Phillip and Laura Coates had been doing that 368 00:26:51,955 --> 00:26:56,395 Speaker 1: off and on for a year. In short, CNN just 369 00:26:56,435 --> 00:27:00,155 Speaker 1: announced a bunch of new anchors of key shows who 370 00:27:00,195 --> 00:27:04,275 Speaker 1: were already anchoring those shows, and nobody, not even the 371 00:27:04,275 --> 00:27:08,435 Speaker 1: few pe people who still have jobs covering television, noticed 372 00:27:09,035 --> 00:27:13,875 Speaker 1: that the new hires were already in the jobs. This 373 00:27:14,035 --> 00:27:19,515 Speaker 1: is ominous. It is one thing if the viewers aren't watching. 374 00:27:19,955 --> 00:27:24,035 Speaker 1: It's another if the TV critics and TV writers aren't 375 00:27:24,675 --> 00:27:27,915 Speaker 1: and they're not even bothering to Google. By the way, 376 00:27:27,955 --> 00:27:31,475 Speaker 1: no change at CNN at eight PM, where the Anderson 377 00:27:31,635 --> 00:27:38,555 Speaker 1: Cooper Career memorial Silo Hour will continue as originally scheduled. 378 00:27:51,195 --> 00:27:57,515 Speaker 1: This is Sports Center wait, check that not anymore. This 379 00:27:58,435 --> 00:28:03,835 Speaker 1: is Countdown with Keith Aulberman in sports. It was the 380 00:28:03,915 --> 00:28:07,155 Speaker 1: feel goods story of fifteen years ago. Adopted out of 381 00:28:07,235 --> 00:28:10,595 Speaker 1: terrible poverty by a rich white family, and his surrogate 382 00:28:10,635 --> 00:28:13,595 Speaker 1: mother fought to get him seen by college and pro scouts, 383 00:28:13,755 --> 00:28:16,635 Speaker 1: and he grew up to be Michael Or, star tackle 384 00:28:16,635 --> 00:28:20,435 Speaker 1: at Mississippi and for the Baltimore Ravens, and their story 385 00:28:20,475 --> 00:28:23,315 Speaker 1: was made into a box office smash film, and it 386 00:28:23,395 --> 00:28:26,835 Speaker 1: got Sondra Bullock an Academy Award, And yesterday Michael Orr 387 00:28:26,915 --> 00:28:30,675 Speaker 1: said it was all a fraud and he is suing 388 00:28:30,795 --> 00:28:35,075 Speaker 1: his adoptive family. In fact, he says Leeann and Sean 389 00:28:35,115 --> 00:28:37,875 Speaker 1: Toohey did not adopt him. They had him sign a 390 00:28:37,955 --> 00:28:41,915 Speaker 1: conservatorship agreement instead, which is still in effect even though 391 00:28:41,955 --> 00:28:45,235 Speaker 1: he's thirty seven years old now, and through which they 392 00:28:45,315 --> 00:28:48,275 Speaker 1: got to control all the money from the movie. And 393 00:28:48,355 --> 00:28:52,675 Speaker 1: he got bupkus And in the suit, Or says the 394 00:28:52,715 --> 00:28:55,235 Speaker 1: two he's got two and a half percent of the 395 00:28:55,275 --> 00:28:59,955 Speaker 1: film's defined net proceeds, and it grows three hundred million 396 00:28:59,955 --> 00:29:02,395 Speaker 1: dollars at the box office and tens of millions more 397 00:29:02,435 --> 00:29:06,075 Speaker 1: in home video sales, and he got nutting He says 398 00:29:06,075 --> 00:29:09,755 Speaker 1: he only found out about this this year. The two 399 00:29:09,795 --> 00:29:11,795 Speaker 1: we say none of this is true, and they are shocked. 400 00:29:11,835 --> 00:29:14,275 Speaker 1: The name of the movie was prophetically, as it turns out, 401 00:29:14,555 --> 00:29:17,915 Speaker 1: the blind Side. I used to take a lot of 402 00:29:17,955 --> 00:29:21,875 Speaker 1: heat inside ESPN and outside of ESPN for regularly asserting 403 00:29:21,875 --> 00:29:24,715 Speaker 1: that Derek Jeter was not one of the top one 404 00:29:24,755 --> 00:29:27,715 Speaker 1: hundred players in baseball history, and not one of the 405 00:29:27,755 --> 00:29:30,755 Speaker 1: top five players in New York Yankees history, and that 406 00:29:30,795 --> 00:29:32,875 Speaker 1: if you were going to call him a leader because 407 00:29:32,875 --> 00:29:35,395 Speaker 1: he was team captain, you were going to have to 408 00:29:35,475 --> 00:29:38,435 Speaker 1: note that the Yankees won four World Series with him 409 00:29:38,555 --> 00:29:41,915 Speaker 1: in the seven seasons he was not team captain, but 410 00:29:42,035 --> 00:29:44,995 Speaker 1: only won one World Series in the twelve seasons he 411 00:29:45,155 --> 00:29:47,995 Speaker 1: was team captain. I also pointed out that when he 412 00:29:48,075 --> 00:29:51,035 Speaker 1: was CEO and part owner of the Miami Marlins, he 413 00:29:51,115 --> 00:29:55,035 Speaker 1: didn't really seem to understand how the sports business worked. 414 00:29:55,275 --> 00:29:58,115 Speaker 1: One of his earliest observations was that while he would 415 00:29:58,155 --> 00:30:01,555 Speaker 1: be trading away his higher priced, better players to cut 416 00:30:01,595 --> 00:30:06,155 Speaker 1: salary and expenses, he expected more fans to spend more 417 00:30:06,235 --> 00:30:09,995 Speaker 1: money buying more Marlins tickets. He never explained how that 418 00:30:10,075 --> 00:30:13,035 Speaker 1: was supposed to happen. Derek Jeter was eased out of 419 00:30:13,075 --> 00:30:16,315 Speaker 1: the Miami Marlins operation more than a year ago. Now, 420 00:30:16,515 --> 00:30:18,995 Speaker 1: one of the people his group bought that team from 421 00:30:19,075 --> 00:30:23,475 Speaker 1: has attacked Jeter, Jeffrey Lauria, who had lots of flaws himself, 422 00:30:23,835 --> 00:30:26,795 Speaker 1: but did manage to con South Florida into giving him 423 00:30:26,795 --> 00:30:29,635 Speaker 1: a free ballpark for a city that has never and 424 00:30:29,755 --> 00:30:34,555 Speaker 1: will never actually support Major League baseball. Jeffrey Laurier, art dealer, 425 00:30:34,635 --> 00:30:38,555 Speaker 1: told The Miami Herald that Jeter quote destroyed the ballpark 426 00:30:38,995 --> 00:30:42,195 Speaker 1: by getting rid of all the colorful decor and the 427 00:30:42,235 --> 00:30:46,475 Speaker 1: on field aquariums, and especially the bizarre Some people loved 428 00:30:46,515 --> 00:30:50,235 Speaker 1: it seven story tall Marlin statue that looked like an 429 00:30:50,235 --> 00:30:54,035 Speaker 1: Erector set toy gone crazy and was painted every pastel 430 00:30:54,115 --> 00:30:58,075 Speaker 1: color known to man. Destroying public art was a horrible 431 00:30:58,115 --> 00:31:01,155 Speaker 1: thing to do, Lauria says, pointing at Jeter. To me, 432 00:31:01,435 --> 00:31:08,115 Speaker 1: it reflected the culture of Miami. Now, it's all it's ridiculous. Still, 433 00:31:08,195 --> 00:31:10,395 Speaker 1: things are better at the moment in Miami than with 434 00:31:10,515 --> 00:31:14,155 Speaker 1: Florida's other big league team, the Tampa Bay Rays, say 435 00:31:14,235 --> 00:31:17,675 Speaker 1: All star infielder Wander Franco has been placed on the 436 00:31:17,715 --> 00:31:20,955 Speaker 1: restricted list. He doesn't play, he doesn't have to get paid, 437 00:31:20,955 --> 00:31:23,955 Speaker 1: though the Rays say they are paying Franco salary. This 438 00:31:24,075 --> 00:31:27,435 Speaker 1: while the league investigates a series of social media posts 439 00:31:27,795 --> 00:31:32,195 Speaker 1: made during the Ray's game Sunday alleging a relationship between 440 00:31:32,195 --> 00:31:38,115 Speaker 1: Franco and an underage girl with photographs. Baseball and its 441 00:31:38,155 --> 00:31:41,195 Speaker 1: fans have a lot of problems, but the response to 442 00:31:41,275 --> 00:31:45,795 Speaker 1: such accusations has always been appropriately harsh. First, baseman Ed 443 00:31:45,835 --> 00:31:49,675 Speaker 1: Boushee of the Philadelphia Phillies arrested for exposing himself to 444 00:31:49,715 --> 00:31:54,355 Speaker 1: several young girls. Bouchet was suspended institutionalized for half a season. 445 00:31:54,835 --> 00:31:57,155 Speaker 1: Pete Rose, in the midst of the rehabilitation of his 446 00:31:57,235 --> 00:32:00,795 Speaker 1: post playing career, the star of Fox Baseball's pregame and 447 00:32:00,835 --> 00:32:05,635 Speaker 1: postgame show Fired, disappeared from the game when a relationship 448 00:32:05,635 --> 00:32:08,635 Speaker 1: with an underage girl was revealed forty years after it happened. 449 00:32:08,915 --> 00:32:13,595 Speaker 1: Now Franco on the restricted list and being savaged online 450 00:32:13,995 --> 00:32:17,315 Speaker 1: by baseball fans with such observations as a tweet by 451 00:32:17,355 --> 00:32:27,035 Speaker 1: an account called New York Chankys quote, sorry about this quote. Quote. 452 00:32:27,995 --> 00:32:31,835 Speaker 1: You can call Wander Franco up to the majors, but 453 00:32:31,915 --> 00:32:49,915 Speaker 1: he will always be in the minors. Hey, don't blame me, 454 00:32:50,035 --> 00:32:52,715 Speaker 1: I just read what the producer puts in front of me. 455 00:32:54,355 --> 00:32:57,475 Speaker 1: Of course I'm the producer, still ahead on countdown. If 456 00:32:57,475 --> 00:32:59,395 Speaker 1: you're going to sue NBC to get out of having 457 00:32:59,395 --> 00:33:02,635 Speaker 1: to cover the Monica Lewinsky story against your will, who 458 00:33:02,715 --> 00:33:07,235 Speaker 1: do you want as your attorney? Well, Monica Lewinski's attorney. 459 00:33:07,275 --> 00:33:10,475 Speaker 1: Am I right? The twenty fifth anniversary of that adventure 460 00:33:10,515 --> 00:33:13,115 Speaker 1: ahead in things I promised not to tell first time 461 00:33:13,115 --> 00:33:14,875 Speaker 1: for the Daily round up, the miss Grants, morons and 462 00:33:14,915 --> 00:33:19,715 Speaker 1: Dunning Kruger effects specimens who constitute today's worse persons in 463 00:33:19,795 --> 00:33:24,635 Speaker 1: the world Bronze. Kellen Browning, a New York Times reporter 464 00:33:24,675 --> 00:33:30,435 Speaker 1: who admits to covering the video game industry. I don't 465 00:33:30,475 --> 00:33:32,915 Speaker 1: know if this explains what he's done, but something has to. 466 00:33:33,355 --> 00:33:37,035 Speaker 1: On Friday, he tweeted from his coverage in Maui. Quote 467 00:33:37,795 --> 00:33:41,395 Speaker 1: Delicius Stratton searched desperately through the wreckage of her Lehina 468 00:33:41,515 --> 00:33:44,755 Speaker 1: home for the Rolex watch her parents gave her when 469 00:33:44,795 --> 00:33:48,555 Speaker 1: she graduated college. Suddenly, her fiance pulled it from the ashes. 470 00:33:48,955 --> 00:33:52,115 Speaker 1: You found it, she said, choking up. It was damaged, 471 00:33:52,395 --> 00:33:56,555 Speaker 1: but still legible. Companying this, we're two photos, one showing 472 00:33:56,555 --> 00:34:00,115 Speaker 1: Miss Stratton holding the charred watch, her hands and nails 473 00:34:00,475 --> 00:34:04,555 Speaker 1: in surprisingly perfect condition considering she'd just been doing this 474 00:34:04,755 --> 00:34:08,915 Speaker 1: desperate search. Okay, that's Friday, and the full extent of 475 00:34:08,955 --> 00:34:11,795 Speaker 1: the Hawaiian disaster might not yet have been fully clear 476 00:34:11,835 --> 00:34:15,315 Speaker 1: to mister Browning. Well maybe not. An hour later, Browning 477 00:34:15,355 --> 00:34:18,395 Speaker 1: reported on the Times Live blog about a woman named 478 00:34:18,435 --> 00:34:24,195 Speaker 1: Sarah Salmones and her quote unreal discovery of her diamond 479 00:34:24,235 --> 00:34:30,915 Speaker 1: earrings among the twisted wreck of her peloton bike. It's 480 00:34:30,915 --> 00:34:33,995 Speaker 1: a pulitzer, for sure. I guess we are fortunate. Browning 481 00:34:34,035 --> 00:34:37,755 Speaker 1: did not follow his updates on these miracles amid tragedy 482 00:34:37,795 --> 00:34:41,355 Speaker 1: by writing the rolex and diamond earrings strewn rubble of 483 00:34:41,395 --> 00:34:44,475 Speaker 1: Lahina might be an unusual place to find Trump supporters, 484 00:34:44,715 --> 00:34:50,315 Speaker 1: but in this Hawaiian diner, the runner at Vivek Ramaswami, 485 00:34:50,355 --> 00:34:53,555 Speaker 1: who is still running for the GOP presidential nomination. Though 486 00:34:53,555 --> 00:34:55,555 Speaker 1: I am beginning to think this may actually just be 487 00:34:55,915 --> 00:34:59,675 Speaker 1: a Fox reality TV show to be called Mine Not 488 00:34:59,795 --> 00:35:03,235 Speaker 1: So Big, Not So Fat, Stupid dark Horse presidential campaign. 489 00:35:03,875 --> 00:35:07,235 Speaker 1: Ramaswami was on with another deep thinker, Hugh Hewitt, when 490 00:35:07,315 --> 00:35:11,035 Speaker 1: Taiwan came up, and Ramaswami basically said, this country will 491 00:35:11,035 --> 00:35:15,115 Speaker 1: defend Taiwan to the death, not exactly the death, but 492 00:35:15,235 --> 00:35:17,475 Speaker 1: until we stop needing what they're making, and then the 493 00:35:17,515 --> 00:35:22,995 Speaker 1: Taiwanese can go f themselves. Quoting Ramaswami, I'm being very clear, 494 00:35:23,715 --> 00:35:28,035 Speaker 1: Shijinping should not mess with Taiwan until we have achieved 495 00:35:28,075 --> 00:35:31,675 Speaker 1: semiconductor independence, until the end of my first term, when 496 00:35:31,715 --> 00:35:34,715 Speaker 1: I will lead us there. And after that, our commitments 497 00:35:34,715 --> 00:35:37,315 Speaker 1: to Taiwan, our commitments to being willing to go to 498 00:35:37,355 --> 00:35:41,235 Speaker 1: military conflict, will change after that because that's rationally in 499 00:35:41,315 --> 00:35:48,275 Speaker 1: our self interest. So defend them until we finish bleeding 500 00:35:48,315 --> 00:35:53,595 Speaker 1: them of their semi conductors, and then by Felicia is 501 00:35:53,635 --> 00:35:57,315 Speaker 1: that the deal Vivek never occurred to mister Ramswami that 502 00:35:57,355 --> 00:36:01,795 Speaker 1: if we actually said that, like he actually just said that, that, 503 00:36:01,835 --> 00:36:05,995 Speaker 1: the Taiwanese could then slow walk semi conductor production, so 504 00:36:06,315 --> 00:36:13,195 Speaker 1: we don't ever achieve semiconductor independence, couldn't they. I might 505 00:36:13,275 --> 00:36:15,835 Speaker 1: mention this to my former Cornell classmate and now the 506 00:36:15,875 --> 00:36:19,315 Speaker 1: president of Taiwan. It seems like Ramaswami realized what he 507 00:36:19,395 --> 00:36:22,835 Speaker 1: had done because he ended the interview fifteen minutes before 508 00:36:22,875 --> 00:36:26,795 Speaker 1: the Hewitt people say they anticipated but our winner and 509 00:36:26,835 --> 00:36:31,555 Speaker 1: this pertains to that Ramaswami's communications director, Tricia McLaughlin doing 510 00:36:31,635 --> 00:36:36,595 Speaker 1: cleanup on his amazing faux pas not exactly her response 511 00:36:36,675 --> 00:36:39,395 Speaker 1: to this, She complained to a reporter who wrote up 512 00:36:39,395 --> 00:36:43,835 Speaker 1: the Taiwan disaster that quote, your story and headline are inaccurate. 513 00:36:44,435 --> 00:36:46,915 Speaker 1: It was a twenty minute schedule hit that went way 514 00:36:46,955 --> 00:36:49,475 Speaker 1: over to forty five minutes. If you plan to write 515 00:36:49,515 --> 00:36:53,115 Speaker 1: about Vivek or our interview schedule, flease reach out to 516 00:36:53,155 --> 00:36:57,755 Speaker 1: me to insure accuracy. The guy just did an RFK 517 00:36:58,035 --> 00:37:02,355 Speaker 1: junior to his own campaign, only it's about Taiwan and 518 00:37:02,475 --> 00:37:07,875 Speaker 1: she's focused on correcting how long the interview was scheduled for. 519 00:37:09,115 --> 00:37:17,795 Speaker 1: Tricia McLaughlin VVAK Gramaswami's communications director, Idiocy Game, Recognize, Idiocy Game, 520 00:37:18,195 --> 00:37:37,835 Speaker 1: Today's worst Parson and our number one story on the 521 00:37:37,875 --> 00:37:41,075 Speaker 1: countdown and back to my favorite topic, me and things 522 00:37:41,115 --> 00:37:44,475 Speaker 1: I promised not to tell. So twenty four years ago 523 00:37:44,555 --> 00:37:49,755 Speaker 1: this week, I nearly hired Monica Lewinsky's lawyer to sue 524 00:37:49,955 --> 00:37:53,435 Speaker 1: NBC so I didn't have to cover the Monica Lewinsky 525 00:37:53,515 --> 00:37:59,275 Speaker 1: story anymore for NBC. It started in like June of 526 00:37:59,315 --> 00:38:01,475 Speaker 1: nineteen ninety eight, and I was at the lowest point 527 00:38:01,475 --> 00:38:03,155 Speaker 1: of what would turn out to be a ten month 528 00:38:03,235 --> 00:38:06,235 Speaker 1: struggle to extricate my from having to host at least 529 00:38:06,315 --> 00:38:10,715 Speaker 1: one hour long show every night covering the news of 530 00:38:10,755 --> 00:38:14,595 Speaker 1: the Bill Clinton, Monica Lewinsky investigations, whether or not there 531 00:38:14,795 --> 00:38:19,235 Speaker 1: was any news, and whether or not there was any journalistic, ethical, 532 00:38:19,315 --> 00:38:22,075 Speaker 1: or legal justification for doing it, because guess what, my 533 00:38:22,115 --> 00:38:24,835 Speaker 1: employers had a hit on their hands and they weren't 534 00:38:24,835 --> 00:38:28,235 Speaker 1: going to let anything other than money factor into this equation. 535 00:38:29,755 --> 00:38:32,795 Speaker 1: I had tried everything I could think of. On the air, 536 00:38:32,955 --> 00:38:35,875 Speaker 1: I trashed how we covered it. The ratings went up. 537 00:38:36,795 --> 00:38:40,315 Speaker 1: I trashed how we covered it in newspaper interviews. The 538 00:38:40,395 --> 00:38:42,915 Speaker 1: ratings went up. I trashed how we covered it in 539 00:38:42,955 --> 00:38:46,515 Speaker 1: a commencement speech. I gave it Cornell University. The ratings 540 00:38:46,555 --> 00:38:49,915 Speaker 1: went up. I threatened to quit publicly. The ratings went up. 541 00:38:50,195 --> 00:38:52,875 Speaker 1: I trashed the prosecutor and said this was a political 542 00:38:52,875 --> 00:38:55,675 Speaker 1: distraction from the threat of terrorism. The ratings went up. 543 00:38:56,235 --> 00:38:59,555 Speaker 1: NBC tried to blackmail me into staying, and I hinted 544 00:38:59,595 --> 00:39:04,355 Speaker 1: at that on the air, and the ratings went up. Finally, 545 00:39:04,715 --> 00:39:08,835 Speaker 1: and inside the office of the head of NBC Sports Dick. 546 00:39:08,875 --> 00:39:14,075 Speaker 1: Eversoll revealed that Eversol and Company had been part of 547 00:39:14,115 --> 00:39:17,235 Speaker 1: what she had called a little white lie about the 548 00:39:17,275 --> 00:39:19,795 Speaker 1: contract I had signed a year earlier when I left 549 00:39:19,995 --> 00:39:23,955 Speaker 1: ESPN Sports Center to go do MSNBC News with a 550 00:39:24,035 --> 00:39:27,595 Speaker 1: little NBC Sports on the side. Turned out it wasn't 551 00:39:28,155 --> 00:39:33,235 Speaker 1: a little NBC Sports on the side. NBC Sports was 552 00:39:33,395 --> 00:39:36,795 Speaker 1: in fact paying the majority of my salary, even though 553 00:39:36,875 --> 00:39:40,275 Speaker 1: everybody at NBC News insisted to me during and after 554 00:39:40,315 --> 00:39:43,355 Speaker 1: in the negotiations that it was like ninety percent News 555 00:39:43,435 --> 00:39:48,835 Speaker 1: and only ten percent Sports. This detail was my first 556 00:39:48,915 --> 00:39:51,075 Speaker 1: ray of hope. It was not much, and it might 557 00:39:51,235 --> 00:39:54,435 Speaker 1: or might not mean the contract was invalid, but it 558 00:39:54,595 --> 00:39:57,435 Speaker 1: was technically illegal to do what they had done. If 559 00:39:57,475 --> 00:39:59,955 Speaker 1: you sign a contract with somebody who says he's paying 560 00:39:59,995 --> 00:40:02,675 Speaker 1: you and it turns out no, you're secretly being paid 561 00:40:02,715 --> 00:40:05,795 Speaker 1: by somebody else and that isn't in the contract, you 562 00:40:05,915 --> 00:40:09,275 Speaker 1: have been deceived into signing the contract. And if you 563 00:40:09,315 --> 00:40:11,755 Speaker 1: have been deceived into signing the contract, well that might 564 00:40:11,795 --> 00:40:15,555 Speaker 1: be enough of a can opener to get me out 565 00:40:15,595 --> 00:40:20,955 Speaker 1: of here. So I needed a lawyer. On June second, 566 00:40:21,075 --> 00:40:24,835 Speaker 1: nineteen ninety eight, William Ginsburg retired as Monica Lewinsky's lawyer 567 00:40:24,875 --> 00:40:27,075 Speaker 1: went back to Los Angeles. He was only there because 568 00:40:27,075 --> 00:40:29,155 Speaker 1: he was a friend of her father's. He was a 569 00:40:29,195 --> 00:40:32,555 Speaker 1: medical malpractice lawyer with a little experience in contract law. 570 00:40:32,955 --> 00:40:35,875 Speaker 1: He was also really good on TV, and to this day, 571 00:40:35,915 --> 00:40:38,555 Speaker 1: when the same person appears on all five of the 572 00:40:38,595 --> 00:40:42,955 Speaker 1: Sunday talk shows on ABC, CBSCNN, Fox, and NBC all 573 00:40:42,995 --> 00:40:45,835 Speaker 1: in one morning, especially if they do it live in 574 00:40:45,875 --> 00:40:49,675 Speaker 1: the studio, it's called the full Ginsburg because he did 575 00:40:49,715 --> 00:40:55,715 Speaker 1: it first. Bill Ginsburg hated the story understandably. I hated 576 00:40:55,755 --> 00:40:58,955 Speaker 1: the story. I heard through colleagues that he respected the 577 00:40:58,955 --> 00:41:00,715 Speaker 1: way I tried to cover it and not the way 578 00:41:00,755 --> 00:41:02,995 Speaker 1: anybody else did. So I wrote him a letter. I 579 00:41:03,075 --> 00:41:06,275 Speaker 1: suggested that while contract law might not be his specialty, 580 00:41:06,755 --> 00:41:10,155 Speaker 1: pushing back against the public humiliation of Monica s. Lewinsky 581 00:41:10,435 --> 00:41:12,915 Speaker 1: was his specialty, and he could help her and help 582 00:41:12,955 --> 00:41:15,915 Speaker 1: me at the same time. And he wrote back that 583 00:41:15,995 --> 00:41:18,075 Speaker 1: he liked the idea, he would research it, and we 584 00:41:18,115 --> 00:41:19,835 Speaker 1: should have dinner the next time he was in New 585 00:41:19,915 --> 00:41:22,875 Speaker 1: York or I was in LA. That time came on 586 00:41:22,995 --> 00:41:26,875 Speaker 1: August twentieth, nineteen ninety eight. I was in LA staying 587 00:41:26,955 --> 00:41:28,915 Speaker 1: in Santa Monica, and he said, perfect, let's go to 588 00:41:28,955 --> 00:41:32,475 Speaker 1: the Jonathan Club. And it really was a terrific meal 589 00:41:32,875 --> 00:41:36,195 Speaker 1: and conversation with one of his law colleagues joining us. 590 00:41:36,355 --> 00:41:39,235 Speaker 1: Bill Ginsburg was gruff and funny and a big sports fan, 591 00:41:39,275 --> 00:41:41,835 Speaker 1: and he had been involved in the legal action after 592 00:41:41,875 --> 00:41:45,515 Speaker 1: the death of the college basketball star Hank Gathers. I 593 00:41:45,675 --> 00:41:48,475 Speaker 1: was at Loyal and Marymount University the night Hank Gathers 594 00:41:48,515 --> 00:41:50,635 Speaker 1: died on the court. We had a lot to talk about. 595 00:41:51,035 --> 00:41:53,995 Speaker 1: Bill was also a Dodgers fan, furious at the trade 596 00:41:54,035 --> 00:41:58,195 Speaker 1: of Mike Piazza and wanted to know the inside story, etc. 597 00:41:59,275 --> 00:42:01,395 Speaker 1: And there were a few drinks we went fully off 598 00:42:01,395 --> 00:42:03,275 Speaker 1: the record, and after he said he would love to 599 00:42:03,315 --> 00:42:05,555 Speaker 1: represent me if I sued, and and thought I had 600 00:42:05,635 --> 00:42:07,955 Speaker 1: quite a case, and thought, if I just let it 601 00:42:08,075 --> 00:42:11,235 Speaker 1: leak inside thirty Rock, that I might hire a lawyer, 602 00:42:11,915 --> 00:42:15,155 Speaker 1: particularly if I leaked that I might hire him to 603 00:42:15,355 --> 00:42:19,955 Speaker 1: sue them over deceptive contract negotiations, NBC might give up quickly. 604 00:42:20,955 --> 00:42:24,075 Speaker 1: Having resolved our business before the second drink arrived, we 605 00:42:24,115 --> 00:42:26,355 Speaker 1: spent the next four hours telling each other all the 606 00:42:26,395 --> 00:42:30,035 Speaker 1: horror stories of our respective roles in this one of 607 00:42:30,035 --> 00:42:34,395 Speaker 1: the dumbest, most self debasing cluster frocks in the history 608 00:42:34,435 --> 00:42:37,835 Speaker 1: of American politics, and the history of American law, and 609 00:42:37,875 --> 00:42:41,995 Speaker 1: the history of American journalism. Obviously, Bill had a lot 610 00:42:42,075 --> 00:42:45,115 Speaker 1: more horror stories to tell than I did, and after 611 00:42:45,155 --> 00:42:48,475 Speaker 1: hearing dozens of them, I asked him to let me 612 00:42:48,555 --> 00:42:54,075 Speaker 1: tell three of the stories someday, on whatever terms he dictated. 613 00:42:54,155 --> 00:42:57,275 Speaker 1: He laughed, and he said, Okay, twenty years for tonight 614 00:42:57,395 --> 00:43:01,155 Speaker 1: or after I'm dead, whichever comes first. Sadly, Bill passed 615 00:43:01,155 --> 00:43:05,195 Speaker 1: away in twenty thirteen. The first story he was just 616 00:43:05,275 --> 00:43:08,275 Speaker 1: TV gossip. Bill said that early on, right after the 617 00:43:08,315 --> 00:43:10,755 Speaker 1: story broke in January nineteen ninety eight, when he was 618 00:43:10,755 --> 00:43:13,075 Speaker 1: still living in a Washington hotel and trying to figure 619 00:43:13,075 --> 00:43:15,355 Speaker 1: out what was what and who was who, he had 620 00:43:15,395 --> 00:43:18,395 Speaker 1: been taken to dinner by Rita Cosby, a Fox News 621 00:43:19,915 --> 00:43:22,155 Speaker 1: she later worked with me for a time at MSNBC. 622 00:43:22,315 --> 00:43:25,595 Speaker 1: She had a voice like the Leo the Lion character 623 00:43:25,635 --> 00:43:30,675 Speaker 1: from Looney Tunes. Hey wait a minute, and she was 624 00:43:30,755 --> 00:43:35,755 Speaker 1: approximately exactly as fetching. Somehow, he found himself at her 625 00:43:35,755 --> 00:43:39,435 Speaker 1: apartment for a drink. She carried two whiskeys to the 626 00:43:39,475 --> 00:43:42,515 Speaker 1: couch on which he sat and curled up next to him, 627 00:43:43,715 --> 00:43:46,115 Speaker 1: just let me leave. Bill quoted himself as saying, and 628 00:43:46,155 --> 00:43:49,795 Speaker 1: I'll tell you anything you want to know. Before Bill 629 00:43:49,835 --> 00:43:52,195 Speaker 1: Ginsburg told me this other story, he said he thought 630 00:43:52,235 --> 00:43:55,955 Speaker 1: it explained the entire Clinton Lewinsky saga. The older I get, 631 00:43:56,195 --> 00:43:59,035 Speaker 1: the more inclined I am to agree with him. He 632 00:43:59,075 --> 00:44:01,795 Speaker 1: said that sometime in the late seventies, he was getting 633 00:44:01,795 --> 00:44:05,435 Speaker 1: groceries at a huge supermarket in Beverly Hills. Went to 634 00:44:05,515 --> 00:44:08,675 Speaker 1: his shock, he saw his college classmate from cal Berkeley, 635 00:44:08,995 --> 00:44:12,795 Speaker 1: Bernie Lewinsky, pushing a shopping cart toward him. The two 636 00:44:12,835 --> 00:44:15,155 Speaker 1: men had not seen each other since they graduated in 637 00:44:15,195 --> 00:44:19,475 Speaker 1: nineteen sixty four. They immediately swapped stories, they embraced, and 638 00:44:19,555 --> 00:44:23,955 Speaker 1: Lewinsky casually mentioned where he and his family lived. I 639 00:44:24,035 --> 00:44:26,475 Speaker 1: was doing pretty well in my practice, Bill told me. 640 00:44:26,835 --> 00:44:29,115 Speaker 1: And Bernie and I were the same age, thirty five 641 00:44:29,235 --> 00:44:31,555 Speaker 1: thirty six, and I had a house in Beverly Hills 642 00:44:31,555 --> 00:44:34,155 Speaker 1: that I paid fifty thousand dollars for and I thought 643 00:44:34,155 --> 00:44:37,155 Speaker 1: I was king of the world. And then Bernie told 644 00:44:37,155 --> 00:44:40,075 Speaker 1: me his address in Beverly Hills, and I realized he 645 00:44:40,155 --> 00:44:42,915 Speaker 1: must have paid five hundred thousand for his house. And 646 00:44:42,955 --> 00:44:45,395 Speaker 1: I said, Bernie, I know you're a genius, but how 647 00:44:45,435 --> 00:44:49,235 Speaker 1: could you possibly afford that place so soon? And he 648 00:44:49,275 --> 00:44:51,755 Speaker 1: said he had this oncology practice and they had just 649 00:44:51,835 --> 00:44:54,115 Speaker 1: opened another office and he was at one or the 650 00:44:54,155 --> 00:44:56,195 Speaker 1: other of those offices, like six days a week, and 651 00:44:56,235 --> 00:44:59,275 Speaker 1: I said great. And then he said, plus five nights 652 00:44:59,315 --> 00:45:03,795 Speaker 1: a week. I'm the overnight emergency oncology doctor at Cedar 653 00:45:03,835 --> 00:45:07,475 Speaker 1: Sinai Hospital. And I said great, And then I realized 654 00:45:07,515 --> 00:45:10,395 Speaker 1: what he had just told me. Bernie, I said, you 655 00:45:10,475 --> 00:45:14,715 Speaker 1: work six days a week and five overnights a week, 656 00:45:15,395 --> 00:45:19,395 Speaker 1: so you work eleven days a week. And he laughed, 657 00:45:19,435 --> 00:45:22,715 Speaker 1: and he said it's easier than saying no to my wife. 658 00:45:23,635 --> 00:45:27,115 Speaker 1: And that Alderman explains everything you need to know about 659 00:45:27,115 --> 00:45:34,115 Speaker 1: the Clinton Lewinsky story. Wow, As it turned out, on 660 00:45:34,195 --> 00:45:38,395 Speaker 1: the NBC contract stuff, Bill Kinsburg was prescient. I told 661 00:45:38,435 --> 00:45:40,875 Speaker 1: one of the top NBC office gossips that I'd had 662 00:45:40,915 --> 00:45:43,915 Speaker 1: dinner with Monica Lewinsky's former attorney and we had sketched 663 00:45:43,915 --> 00:45:46,875 Speaker 1: out plans to sue NBC because it had deliberately lied 664 00:45:46,915 --> 00:45:49,515 Speaker 1: to me about whether I was being paid by NBC 665 00:45:49,595 --> 00:45:53,675 Speaker 1: News or NBC Sports. And like four weeks later, out 666 00:45:53,715 --> 00:45:56,635 Speaker 1: of the blue, NBC suddenly advised my agent that it 667 00:45:56,715 --> 00:45:59,675 Speaker 1: was giving us ten days to negotiate a deal to 668 00:45:59,755 --> 00:46:02,355 Speaker 1: sell my contract to Fox Sports for a million dollars, 669 00:46:02,915 --> 00:46:04,515 Speaker 1: and the promise that I would not go back at 670 00:46:04,515 --> 00:46:09,515 Speaker 1: a time News for two years. Coincidence, I think not. 671 00:46:11,515 --> 00:46:14,435 Speaker 1: Mike Bill Ginsburg's Oh wait, I didn't tell you the 672 00:46:14,475 --> 00:46:17,195 Speaker 1: third story, he said, I could tell twenty years later. 673 00:46:19,195 --> 00:46:22,475 Speaker 1: If you know anything about the Clinton Lewinsky saga. You 674 00:46:22,515 --> 00:46:29,755 Speaker 1: know about the dress, the stained blue dress. If you 675 00:46:29,835 --> 00:46:36,235 Speaker 1: don't know, eh, look it up somewhere. I don't have 676 00:46:36,275 --> 00:46:39,755 Speaker 1: the time or the patience to tell you here. But 677 00:46:39,875 --> 00:46:42,755 Speaker 1: what Bill Ginsburg said that night twenty four years ago 678 00:46:43,555 --> 00:46:47,355 Speaker 1: cracks me up to this day. You know, he said, 679 00:46:48,675 --> 00:46:51,155 Speaker 1: when Monica took that dress out of her closet to 680 00:46:51,195 --> 00:46:54,915 Speaker 1: wear it at Thanksgiving and she realized it was stained, 681 00:46:56,035 --> 00:47:04,235 Speaker 1: she wasn't certain. She thought the stain might be potato salad. 682 00:47:18,035 --> 00:47:20,555 Speaker 1: Such a pain in the ass, he is. I've done 683 00:47:20,555 --> 00:47:22,715 Speaker 1: all the damage I can do here. Thank you for listening. 684 00:47:23,075 --> 00:47:25,115 Speaker 1: Countdown has come to you from our studios high on 685 00:47:25,155 --> 00:47:28,235 Speaker 1: top the Sports Capsule Building in New York. Here are 686 00:47:28,235 --> 00:47:31,155 Speaker 1: the credits host of the music arrange, produced and performed 687 00:47:31,435 --> 00:47:33,715 Speaker 1: by Brian Ray and John Phillip Shanelle, who are the 688 00:47:33,715 --> 00:47:38,915 Speaker 1: countdown musical directors. 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Our announcer today was 695 00:47:59,715 --> 00:48:03,195 Speaker 1: my friend Kenny Maine, and everything else was bety much 696 00:48:03,275 --> 00:48:06,395 Speaker 1: my fault Downtown for this the nine hundred and fifty 697 00:48:06,435 --> 00:48:09,515 Speaker 1: first day since Donald Trump's first attempted coup against the 698 00:48:09,555 --> 00:48:13,355 Speaker 1: democratically elected government of the United States. Arrest him again 699 00:48:13,475 --> 00:48:17,355 Speaker 1: while we still can. Let's go on an odd even system. 700 00:48:17,715 --> 00:48:20,635 Speaker 1: Arrest him on odd numbered days. Don't arrest him on 701 00:48:20,675 --> 00:48:24,955 Speaker 1: even numbered days. The next scheduled countdown is tomorrow. Bulletins, 702 00:48:24,995 --> 00:48:28,155 Speaker 1: as the news warrants till then, I'm Keith Olderman, good morning, 703 00:48:28,195 --> 00:48:40,355 Speaker 1: good afternoon, good night, and good luck. 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