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Speaker 1: Sure, it's time hell love Love, love a love a

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Speaker 1: loud Welcome to the naughty but Nicias Shooter and it's Thursday,

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Speaker 1: which means our dear friend Mark Lupa joins us, Hey, Loopy.

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Speaker 2: Are you there?

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Speaker 3: Boopy? Lewis here? He Rah?

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Speaker 2: Welcome back, darling. How is your vacation? We missed you.

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Speaker 3: It was fantastic. I missed you guys too, but it

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Speaker 3: was nice to take a break and relax.

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Speaker 4: Lovely, where in the world were you? I sometimes lose,

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Speaker 4: lose where you're going, where you've been?

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Speaker 3: I was in the very hot, humid Naples, Florida for

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Speaker 2: Love love lady, you have an all over tan I do?

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Speaker 4: I do? You might as well say it you well.

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Speaker 4: Welcome back, darlings. We've got a ton of gossip to

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Speaker 4: get to you. Let's jump in.

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Speaker 2: What time is it, my friends? It is tea time.

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Speaker 4: This story is getting so messy. So Kelly clarkson smeltdown

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Speaker 4: was triggered by her exist romance with her former assistant.

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Speaker 4: So Kelly's heartbreak wasn't just about her divorce, wasn't about

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Speaker 4: her failed marriage inside as a saying, it was fueled

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Speaker 4: by a betrayal Mark that really cut her to the core.

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Speaker 4: The late Brandon Blackstock, who died August seventh, tragically, he

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Speaker 4: was just forty eight years old. He died after a

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Speaker 4: three year battle with cancer. We now found out that

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Speaker 4: he was in a relationship with Kelly Clarkson's former production assistant,

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Speaker 4: Brittany Marie Jones. This was a detail that was confirmed

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Speaker 4: in his newly released obituary. Now the timeline here is

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Speaker 4: a little bit fuzzy, Mark, We know that in twenty

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Speaker 4: sixteen twenty seventeen, Jones worked as Kelly Clarkson's production assistant

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Speaker 4: in Nashville, traveling with her managing her personal and professional needs.

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Speaker 4: She also helped some with the press that Kelly was

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Speaker 4: lot of people in the business remember her because she

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Speaker 4: would set up the phone interviews or whatever Kelly was doing.

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Speaker 4: A personal assistant spends a lot of time with the

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Speaker 4: celebrity they are with. Then, in about twenty eighteen, a

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Speaker 4: few years later, she transitioned. Jones transitioned into the role

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Speaker 4: of executive management assistant for Brandon for his Talent company.

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Speaker 4: So she was no longer a personal assistant. Now she

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Speaker 4: was an assistant for the management company that Kelly's husband,

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Speaker 4: Brandon ran. Then in about twenty twenty, the same month

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Speaker 4: that Kelly and Brandon got divorced, she took on another

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Speaker 4: role working for him in his Montana.

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Speaker 2: This is fuzzy.

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Speaker 4: This is a very messy situation. We had heard rumors

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Speaker 4: confirmed by that obituary. Just to add salt to the

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Speaker 2: Kelly Clarkson.

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Speaker 4: And so this is a messy, messy situation, But we

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Speaker 4: have to handle it quite carefully, Mark, because somebody has

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Speaker 4: died here. If Kelly Clarkson's husband was having an affair

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Speaker 4: with her assistant, this would be massive, massive news. It's

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Speaker 4: still very big news. But the fact that he's passed

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Speaker 4: away here, I think rightfully so has meant everybody is

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Speaker 4: And so it's still a big story, Mark, And that

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Speaker 4: there's more to this story to come out, isn't there.

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Speaker 4: We know that Kelly has been upset, has had a

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Speaker 4: bit of a meltdown for a while after her ex

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Speaker 2: But that's not the whole story. There's more now to

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Speaker 3: This is really messy. And you know, I have to

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Speaker 3: point out the real losers here are their kids. They

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Speaker 3: very sad. But beyond that, well, I think it's so

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Speaker 3: surprising as this story didn't break years ago, Like Kelly

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Speaker 3: it's pretty It's the lowest of the lower What a

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Speaker 2: Gross. It's gross.

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Speaker 4: You were invited into my home, into my family. There's

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Speaker 4: that isn't quite actually the timeline. There is a little

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Speaker 4: I called a couple of people that know Kelly very well,

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Speaker 4: Kelly knows that the divorce was ugly. It really was

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Speaker 4: an ugly divorce. She knows shortly after the divorce these.

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Speaker 2: Two started to live together.

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Speaker 4: However, she certainly has suspicions was this going on before

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Speaker 4: we actually signed those divorce papers. She's looking back really

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Speaker 4: really curious. It was enough to really upset her. The

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Speaker 4: hearing the rumors, this was kept such a secret, I

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Speaker 4: think partly because it happened in Montana, and a lot

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Speaker 4: of reporters aren't there. If this had happened in New York,

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Speaker 4: if Kelly was having an affair, we would have known

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Speaker 4: really taking keys picture. Although Kelly must have known something,

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Speaker 4: and I'm sure she told her girlfriends, and I love Kelly.

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Speaker 4: If you're listening, Galla Balla Belo, you can trust your girlfriends.

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Speaker 4: I've actually heard a little bit of this rumor, Mark

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Speaker 4: and so a few days before Brandon passed, I made

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Speaker 2: Really saying that Kelly has meltdown.

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Speaker 4: Kelly had so much more going on than just the

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Speaker 4: But it was her ex husband. They had had a

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Speaker 4: very ugly divorce. They didn't really stay in touch anymore.

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Speaker 4: It's very sad when somebody that you've once loved passes.

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Speaker 4: I don't doubt that for a minute, but there was

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Speaker 4: much bigger than just which is a big story, a

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Speaker 4: question of the day. Kelly Clarkson's meltdown was triggered by

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Speaker 4: that former assistant ex husband got together, That's what triggered

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Speaker 4: Kelly is beginning of her meltdown.

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Speaker 2: I'm sure it was pushed over the edge when he died.

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Speaker 4: But are you shocked by this latest twist?

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Speaker 2: Did you know? Did you suspect? I suspected?

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Speaker 4: I don't know if Mark did, But did you suspect

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Speaker 4: there was more to this story? Hey? Go vote on

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Speaker 4: our Twitter page. I had Norday nice rob our facebook pages,

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Speaker 4: to hear your results. I think we handled that in

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Speaker 4: a respectable way. Mark, We're treading carefully. We're trying to

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Speaker 2: What do you think?

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Speaker 3: I think so too, And I think we have to

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Speaker 4: Yes, yeah, there's more that's going to come out. What

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Speaker 3: Let's talk about Leonardo DiCaprio. So Leo was thrilled when

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Speaker 3: Spanish police felt to immediately recognize him while he willed

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Speaker 3: the fifty year old after was filmed outside a tequila

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Speaker 3: Spanish actor aarn Piper, And he was wearing all black

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Speaker 3: and Leo stood patiently as officers patted him down and

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Speaker 3: checked ideas. Now, according to a source, every single person

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Speaker 2: I totally believe this.

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Speaker 4: If you ever you've seen Leo out at a club,

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Speaker 4: we have Mark I'm seking at Marquee in Town, all

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Speaker 4: those hot places in New York count He always as

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Speaker 4: not a showpony. When Lindsay Lohan turns up, it's like

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Speaker 4: He wears that baseball cap. He keeps his head down

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Speaker 4: His ego was hurt. Anybody that's reporting that does not

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Speaker 4: So just the little insight here that you're probably not

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Speaker 4: Moving along, the Swifties looked like they drove up the

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Speaker 4: So the major concern in the memo. In the memo

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Speaker 4: It didn't quite work out the way Blake wanted. In fact,

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Speaker 4: Taylor Swift and Blake. I have now got a problem.

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Speaker 4: But it's just shocking to be the amount of money

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Speaker 4: PR celebrities. It's wild, Mark, It's wild.

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Speaker 2: It's time for the nicest of the day.

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Speaker 3: Oh a nice to the day. It's Taylor Swift and

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Speaker 4: Oh Ellen, be nice, be nice. You have no reason

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