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Speaker 2: Our one on this Wednesday, Dan and the Danet's Dan

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Speaker 2: Patrick Show wasn't a shock, but they're still an element

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Speaker 2: of surprise with what happened in Pittsburgh. So now we

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Speaker 2: have the Cardinals, Falcons, Ravens, Browns, Raiders, Dolphins, Giants, Titans,

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Speaker 2: Steelers all looking for head coaches.

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Speaker 2: The man who's been covering the Steelers for I think

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Speaker 2: three decades, Jerry Dulac from the Pittsburgh Post Gazette. He'll

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Speaker 2: join us coming up in about twenty minutes from now,

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Speaker 2: And what he reported on yesterday is Mike Tomlin made

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Speaker 2: the decision to step down with two years left on

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Speaker 2: his contract and a contract that was going to pay

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Speaker 2: him twenty five million dollars a year. I guess if

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Speaker 2: you're looking at next stop, as we've talked about speculated

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Speaker 2: the last two years, it was going to be TV

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Speaker 2: that forthcoming. We've also talked to Alex Smith, former NFL

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Speaker 2: quarterback now working for the Mothership on NFL Countdown. So

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Speaker 2: after nineteen years, Mike Tomlin steps down, and if you're

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Speaker 2: looking at a pattern here, Chuck Nole defensive minded, Bill

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Speaker 2: Coward defensive minded, Mike Tomlin defensive mind. And is that

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Speaker 2: next coach going to be defensive minded? Also probably going

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Speaker 2: to get somebody who is not established, Probably getting somebody

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Speaker 2: who will be in their mid thirties, maybe late thirties.

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Speaker 2: That's been the pattern for the Steelers over the last

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Speaker 2: sixty years.

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Speaker 3: All right, eight.

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Speaker 2: Seven seven three DP show operator Tyler sitting by, He'll

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Speaker 2: take your phone calls today. Seaton poll question for the

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Speaker 2: first hour is what.

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Speaker 4: Well do you want to start with Mike Tomlin or

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Speaker 4: with Mike Tomlin's replacements.

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Speaker 3: Let's do Mike Tomlin Mike Tomlin? Is it fair to say?

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Speaker 2: Uh?

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Speaker 4: Or how do I word this correctly? If Mike Tomlin

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Speaker 4: stepped down or was stepped down?

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Speaker 2: Well, Jerry Dulac, who's covering the team, said, according to

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Speaker 2: his sources, Mike Tomlin made the decision that he was

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Speaker 2: going to step down.

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Speaker 3: Yes, Paul was.

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Speaker 5: A Mike Tollin decision to step down completely voluntary would

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Speaker 5: be my question, completely voluntary?

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Speaker 3: Does it matter?

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Speaker 3: Well, I think it.

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Speaker 5: Does a little bit if you compare to what happened

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Speaker 5: to Harball.

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Speaker 3: We no, Harball got fired, right, but I was.

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Speaker 5: I'm curious that the Pittsburgh ownership suggested this course of action.

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Speaker 3: It's a fair question. Harball wanted to stay.

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Speaker 2: Tony Dungee told us that when he talked to the

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Speaker 2: front office ownership, it felt like if Mike wanted to

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Speaker 2: continue to coach, and he had two years left on

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Speaker 2: his contract, then he was going to be able to

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Speaker 2: coach but do I think it's a mutual I don't.

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Speaker 2: I never believe in a mutual parting where you walk

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Speaker 2: in and you both say at the same time, I

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Speaker 2: think that we should break up.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. What I kind of want to have happened.

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Speaker 4: If I had sort of like some type of magical

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Speaker 4: Riley leave USC and Mike Tomlin take the USC job,

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Speaker 4: just so five years later we could have that story

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Speaker 3: They'd be like, yeah, see, nobody believe me, but see

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Speaker 3: what happened.

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Speaker 4: I told you Mike Tomlins taking the USC job.

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Speaker 2: Okay, Yeah, and you wonder why Mike Tomlin has never

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: That was one of those where USC had a list

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Speaker 2: looked at the wish list of who we're going to hire.

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Speaker 3: Who would we be interested in. They want to hide. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: they like it's a wish list. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, And Mike Tomlin was on the wish list, that's all.

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Speaker 2: He wasn't interested, never heard anything. So when I said that, hey,

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Speaker 2: I have somebody who's seen this wish list and said,

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Speaker 3: Is this a joke?

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Speaker 2: And then all of a sudden somebody says, yeah, Dan

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Speaker 2: Patrick said that you know you're interested in the USC job,

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Speaker 2: which is not how I phrased it. I said they

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Speaker 2: are interested in Mike.

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Speaker 4: Wait, you mean a reporter framed a question to a

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Speaker 3: Get at. I know they're supposed to be journalists in there.

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Speaker 3: They're professional.

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Speaker 7: They don't do that.

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Speaker 3: No, they don't.

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Speaker 2: Uh So, Mike tom Lincoln Riley to the Steelers, But

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Speaker 4: I just want Mike Tomlin to take the USC job

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Speaker 4: just so we can have some fun with you.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm taking receipt Are you taking receipts or dropping receipt?

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Speaker 3: Receipt keeping receipt? You keep them keeping receipt? Yes?

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Speaker 8: To you think Tomlin possibly had a mindset when I'm

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Speaker 8: about to meet the front office and the owners. If

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Speaker 8: I don't immediately feel the love and the confidence and

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Speaker 8: the encouragement that they want me back, anything less than that,

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Speaker 8: I'm just going to step down.

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Speaker 3: I need to hear that right away.

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Speaker 8: And maybe he was thinking about going.

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Speaker 2: I don't know how they phrased it. I don't know

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Speaker 2: how you know they did. They pose a question, Mike,

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Speaker 2: what do you want to do? Or do you say, Mike,

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Speaker 2: we want you back. What do you want to do?

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Speaker 2: We talked about this yesterday, but I think Mike Tomlin

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Speaker 2: probably felt after nineteen years, I need to take a

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Speaker 2: big deep breath here. I need's fifty three. And I'm

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Speaker 2: not saying that this is one of those midlife crisis

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Speaker 2: as much as it is. Okay, I've accomplished this. I've

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Speaker 2: accomplished a lot. I have total respect around the league.

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Speaker 2: Networks are going to want to hire me. You get

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Speaker 2: want to do? And maybe you want to take that

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Speaker 2: and it can be fun in press conferences a little prickly,

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Speaker 2: but I don't know. You put him in studio, you

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Speaker 2: would hire Mike Tomlin. I would want him in studio.

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Speaker 2: I would want to see him and you could control

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Speaker 2: in a game. You know, just because you know the game,

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Speaker 2: you coach the game, you've won a super Bowl, you've

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Speaker 2: been in the playoffs. That doesn't mean you can do

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Speaker 2: I would say to Mike Tomlin, we want to hire

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Speaker 2: So now I get kind of a head start. Now

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Speaker 2: Matt Ryan is now working with the Falcons, And I

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Speaker 2: brought that up to Bill Cower yesterday. Hey, I'd bring

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Speaker 2: in Mike Tomlin this weekend. If I'm CBS, put him

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Speaker 2: in there with Cower. You know, then you get to

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Speaker 2: talk to him about you know, the game's coming up,

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Speaker 2: so you have him do his first interview with you.

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Speaker 2: Jay Glazer is a great relationship with Mike. I could

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Speaker 2: see that they haven't replaced Jimmy Johnson. I could see

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Speaker 2: where you bring in Mike Tomlin, but I don't know

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Speaker 2: if he's part of the hijinks that you have at

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Speaker 2: the Fox pregame show, like wacky you know, goofy stuff,

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Speaker 2: Where's CBS you know a little bit more, you know,

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Speaker 2: uniformity with that, and you're there with Bill Kauer. That

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Speaker 2: could be fun as well. But he'll have options. But

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Speaker 2: if I'm NBC, I bring him in and I say

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Speaker 2: we would like to have you through the super Bowl.

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Speaker 3: See what he says? All right? So the yes, Ton?

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Speaker 3: Is there a standard of coach owners meeting?

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Speaker 8: I know, like the players, you know they pack up

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Speaker 8: their stuff and you meet with the press and all that.

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Speaker 8: I was just wondering who initiated the conversation, how much

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Speaker 8: that matter? Did Mike Tomlin say, hey, do you got

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Speaker 2: Well, you always have an exit interview every team, every

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Speaker 8: I'm just I'd be fascinated to know just how that started.

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Speaker 8: And you know, not that it'll be aggressive, but who

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Speaker 4: Are we here?

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Speaker 8: We're not here together.

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Speaker 3: Well, no, you have an exit interview. Season's over.

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Speaker 2: You get together, you talk about what short term, long

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Speaker 2: term plans are. This took on probably a different tone

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Speaker 2: where you're walking in and you're saying, all right, what

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Speaker 2: are we doing? We want you back? What are you thinking?

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Speaker 2: Two years left on your contract? What are you thinking?

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Speaker 2: That's probably you know how this was sort of the

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Speaker 2: table was set for this meeting. I can't imagine they'll go, hey, Mike,

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Speaker 2: come on in, let's talk man. So what do you

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Speaker 3: Now? What do you think? You know?

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Speaker 2: I think this was let's start big picture, keep a

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Speaker 2: big picture. If he decides he's going to stay, well

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Speaker 2: now we can have some questions about the roster. And

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Speaker 2: I didn't think I thought at the beginning of the year,

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Speaker 2: I thought that this would be the last year for Tomlin,

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Speaker 2: the last year for Aaron Rodgers. And it looks like

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Speaker 2: Aaron Rodgers will be done in Pittsburgh as well. I

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Speaker 2: don't know if there's any other opportunity for him. Somebody

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Speaker 2: suggested to me yesterday, well what if Minnesota brought him in?

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Speaker 2: And I thought, okay, maybe this past year. But now

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Speaker 2: all of a sudden, he's forty three, and he's looking

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Speaker 2: every bit forty three. You still have a couple of

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Speaker 2: good receivers on that team. But and I think they

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Speaker 2: want to open up the competition with AJ McCarthy. But

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Speaker 2: I don't want to one and done, or you know,

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Speaker 2: like Pittsburgh, all right, it was one year, you rolled

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Speaker 2: the dice, you got to the playoffs, and that's it.

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Speaker 3: It didn't work out. But I don't know if I see.

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Speaker 2: A team like you can't have a team go hey,

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Speaker 2: let's bring him in and maybe people like the Cleveland Browns. Hey,

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Speaker 2: maybe somebody will show up to watch Aaron Rodgers play quarterback.

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Speaker 2: I don't see that. I don't think that there's this

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Speaker 2: the Steelers posted this thirty five minutes ago. Steelers President

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Speaker 3: Him doing TV boy, he'd be good at TV.

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Speaker 2: You're fifty three, You're in the middle of a playoff chase,

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Speaker 2: But if you win that game, does he still eventually

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Speaker 2: Pittsburgh Post Gazette and he joins us, Now, how did

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Speaker 3: Jerry?

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Speaker 10: You know, Dan, it's it's been evolving, of course, and

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Speaker 10: I think the final straw was just another one and

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Speaker 10: done in the postseason. That's nine times in Mike Thomlins career.

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Speaker 10: I mean, obviously, you know, people he around here think

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Speaker 10: and to them, I understand why, but it's just it's

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Speaker 10: kind of the same, the same scene every year, get

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Speaker 10: into postseason and then not only get eliminated, but you know,

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Speaker 10: And you know, I know, you know, Dan, people always

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Speaker 10: and the Steelers didn't make this change. Mike Tomlin decided

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Speaker 10: change just for the sake of change. You couldn't continue

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Speaker 10: And you know, Mike Tomlin made the decision for them.

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Speaker 3: Do you think it was completely his decision? Here?

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Speaker 10: I'm still trying to get to the bottom of that, Dan,

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Speaker 10: that he stepped down, that they didn't fire him, you know,

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Speaker 10: that would be a different, different scenario. So I'm going

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Speaker 10: I don't think they told him, look, we'll let you

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Speaker 10: I'm still still open to the buzz of Delly.

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Speaker 3: So what's next for Tomin? I don't know.

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Speaker 10: You know, Dan, everybody wants to think that, you know,

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Speaker 10: I've never gotten the indication that that's something on his radar,

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Speaker 10: That's what I'm gonna, you know, obviously find out here

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Speaker 10: I guess we're going to find out. Nineteen years in

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Speaker 3: What's next for the Steelers.

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Speaker 10: Well, you know, obviously their history of hiring head coaches

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Speaker 10: That's going to be the case, but it's one the

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Speaker 10: I think if Mike Tomlin stayed, I think they would

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Speaker 3: I know that it falls on Mike Tomlin.

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Speaker 3: I don't think there's any question that.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, because they're not bad enough to get better by

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Speaker 10: Yeah, when you think of where they've had to draft. Now,

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Speaker 10: And you know you have to go back to TJ.

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Speaker 3: Watt to find that guy.

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Speaker 10: And I think that's where they need and they know it.

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Speaker 10: They know those first five picks, first eight picks or

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Speaker 10: where you first five, especially where you find those elite players.

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Speaker 10: First eight to ten is where you find maybe the

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Speaker 10: Pro Bowl players and then you keep your fingers crossed

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Speaker 10: it maybe you land somebody. But they haven't had that

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Speaker 10: guy and that's what they need and they know it.

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Speaker 10: That's what they need to go and try and.

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Speaker 2: Do anybody untouchable on the roster in your opinion, No.

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Speaker 10: No, you know, I don't think I you know, DK

446
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Speaker 10: metcalf is, I don't think despite that suspension what some

447
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Speaker 10: people want to think, he's coming back. Cam Hayward's going

448
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Speaker 10: to be thirty seven. But you know, I will tell you, Dan,

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Speaker 10: I don't think anybody is untouchable. They're right tackle Troy Fontano,

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Speaker 10: maybe some of our offensive linemen, but otherwise any of

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Speaker 10: the other guys.

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Speaker 3: No, thanks again, I know you're busy. We appreciate it, Dan.

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Speaker 10: Well, always enjoy being with you.

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Speaker 2: Jerry Doolat covers the Steelers for the Pittsburgh Post Gazette,

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Speaker 2: also part of the Steelers Radio network. If Mike Tomlin

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Speaker 2: does not take a job in the next two years,

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Speaker 2: there's no compensation for the Steelers. He would be a

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Speaker 2: free agent. And you know, keep in mind the Sean

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Speaker 2: Payton situation when he left the Saints and he ended

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Speaker 2: up with the Broncos. The Broncos had to give up

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Speaker 2: two picks for Sean Payton. Bruce Arians, Herm Edwards, John Ruden,

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Speaker 2: Bill Belichick, Mike Holme, and Bill Parcells. Those are these

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Speaker 2: seven head coaches traded in NFL history.

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Speaker 3: David in Ohio, Hi, David.

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Speaker 11: Hey, David, Dan speaking, Hey, Hey, Dan speaking of Todd

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Speaker 11: might like this one.

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Speaker 3: Speaking of Steelers.

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Speaker 6: Head coaches, I guess you could say that the Steelers

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Speaker 6: chuck a knowle from Mike Tomlins.

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Speaker 12: Thank you.

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Speaker 3: You can't approve of that, Todd.

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Speaker 8: I can't. I want to because he gave me a

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Speaker 8: little shout and he was trying to do the headline thing.

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Speaker 3: But I think he can do better.

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Speaker 2: Where is Pittsburgh, Dave David Arkansas joints this.

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Speaker 11: I'm right here, Dan. I'm the newest member, I gotta

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Speaker 11: say for a newest member of.

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Speaker 12: The d DC.

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Speaker 11: Oh and almost the newest member of the one I see.

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Speaker 11: I got hit in the face of the golf ball

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Speaker 11: and nearly took out on a left eye.

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Speaker 2: So you were going to join PAULI on the one

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Speaker 2: good eye club.

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Speaker 11: Great to have you almost happened.

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Speaker 2: Uh but and condolences with the dead dad club there,

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Speaker 2: But you know, welcome to the club.

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Speaker 10: Yes.

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Speaker 11: Now, as for Tom and his concerned I just think

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Speaker 11: the time was right. I do believe this was totally

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Speaker 11: his decision. There was no forcing of anything from the

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Speaker 11: front office.

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Speaker 2: Uh.

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Speaker 11: So you know it's and I look at it as

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Speaker 11: the next coach might be the last coach. I watch

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Speaker 11: you know the way they go with coaches. My last

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Speaker 11: coach that I watch, I wouldn't mind. I mean a

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Speaker 11: lot of talk has been Brian Flores. You know, do

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Speaker 11: you make the call to Marcus Freeman? I could see that.

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Speaker 2: Oh I make the call. Absolutely. I make the call

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Speaker 2: with Marcus Freeman. I mean, you're the Steelers, you know,

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Speaker 2: you're one of the blue bloods there. But thank you, Dave,

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Speaker 2: and once again, welcome to the Dead Dad's Club. Curtis

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Speaker 2: in Illinois, Hi, Curtis, what's on your mind?

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Speaker 1: Morning?

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Speaker 12: DP?

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Speaker 3: Just calling it today.

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Speaker 13: Everybody's going nuts over who's going to hire John Harbaugh?

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Speaker 13: And then this if Tomlin decides he wants to coach again,

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Speaker 13: there'd be probably just as long as a list. But

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Speaker 13: if you look back at NFL history, there's never been

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Speaker 13: a coach that has won Super Bowls with multiple teams.

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Speaker 13: So if you're hiring for a new coach, don't you

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Speaker 13: just want that younger, hungry coach that has something to gain.

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Speaker 3: Out of it?

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Speaker 2: I would, because this is what everybody has been saying. Man,

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Speaker 2: you could bring in John Harbaugh, you could bring in

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Speaker 2: Mike Tomlin. Well, if they couldn't get their team over

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Speaker 2: the hump. What makes you think they can get your

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Speaker 2: team over the hump?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I think if you're following the Steelers' history and

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Speaker 4: track record, it's probably somebody more like Jesse Minter that

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Speaker 4: makes the most sense defensive coordination With the Chargers, he's

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Speaker 4: the defensive coordinator. They like to hire defensive minded head coaches.

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Speaker 4: And if right now the one thing you can build

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Speaker 4: around is TJ. Watt, bring in a guy who's in

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Speaker 4: his early forties that sort of follows a lot of

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Speaker 4: the same things that the Steelers as an organization really likes.

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Speaker 4: And Jerry Duleak was just saying, you don't come in

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Speaker 4: and bring in all of your people, you come in

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Speaker 4: and assimilate into what is already existing. I don't know,

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Speaker 4: I think that he probably makes a lot of sense. Yeah,

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Speaker 4: Jesse Mentor, I think is forty one. Brian Flores probably

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Speaker 4: is going to get a head coaching job, might be

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Speaker 4: with the Raiders, maybe it's Pittsburgh. But back to what

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Speaker 4: I was talking about, where you got John Harbaugh and

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Speaker 4: Kevin Stefanski and Mike Tomlin. Those are all marquee names,

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Speaker 4: proven coaches, but there's a reason why they're not coaching

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Speaker 4: their respective teams, they couldn't.

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Speaker 2: Get them over the hump. Now it's different for Kevin Stefanski.

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Speaker 2: He did not have the talent there that these other

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Speaker 2: two co John Harball had a future Hall of Fame quarterback.

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Speaker 2: Mike Tomlin didn't have that for the latter part of

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Speaker 2: his career. They were looking, they're still looking Lamar jack

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Speaker 2: The Ravens chose Lamar Jackson over John Harbaught feels like

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Speaker 2: like whoever's coaching is coming in and they're gonna have

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Speaker 2: to put Lamar Jackson in a better position to win.

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Speaker 2: But that doesn't mean if you're Atlanta or Arizona, the Giants,

548
00:28:30,640 --> 00:28:34,400
Speaker 2: all of these openings, you'd be going, hey, that's an upgrade.

549
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Speaker 2: That guy can help us be better. Because if I said, hey,

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Speaker 2: I'm going to have you hire a guy who's going

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Speaker 2: to have you in the playoffs for the next ten years,

552
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Speaker 2: you gotta have winning record the next ten years, but

553
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Speaker 2: you're going to roll the dice and chances are you

554
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Speaker 2: won't win a playoff game. If you're Atlanta, would you

555
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Speaker 2: sign up for that? If you're the Giants, would you

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Speaker 2: sign up for that? The Browns would you sign up

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Speaker 2: for that? Arizona would you Tennessee, Like, there's certain teams

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Speaker 2: that their expectator. You know, the Steelers, it's about winning championships.

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Speaker 2: The Patriots, you win championships. Even the Cowboys, who haven't

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Speaker 2: done anything in thirty years, it's still winning championships. Arizona,

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Speaker 2: it's just let's be relevant, let's be competitive. The Giants

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Speaker 2: one of the blue bloods. They have not been good,

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Speaker 2: not consistent. Atlanta, they've been a mess. So there's certain

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Speaker 2: teams Tennessee would take that. Hey, ten years winning record,

565
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Speaker 2: playoffs every single year, but you're not winning a playoff

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Speaker 2: game in Pittsburgh. That doesn't fly. In Baltimore, that doesn't fly. Yes, Marv.

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Speaker 9: So if you're the Falcons of the Titans, would you say, hey,

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Speaker 9: let's have a Tom Coffin like career where you only

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Speaker 9: make the playoffs twice in ten.

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Speaker 3: Years, but you win Super Bowls? Would you sign up

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Speaker 3: for that? Yes, everybody would.

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Speaker 2: The Steelers would sign up for that, Baltimore would sign

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Speaker 2: up for that. It's sort of like the Florida Marlins,

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Speaker 2: you know, like every five to six years, it'd be like,

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Speaker 2: I'll be damn they won another World Series.

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Speaker 9: Yes, Mark, So the year before you win the Super Bowl,

577
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Speaker 9: you're on the hot seat. He might get fired, but

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Speaker 9: let's win a super Bowl instead.

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Speaker 2: Nick Siriani and they fire their offensive coordinator. I feel

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Speaker 2: bad for Jalen Hurts. He's had a new offensive coordinator

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Speaker 2: every single year, and he's going to have another one

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Speaker 2: next year. And I believe if you look at his

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Speaker 2: offensive coordinators at Alabama, he had a new one every

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Speaker 2: single year. Greatness starts with stability. Who is my coach?

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Speaker 2: Who is my offensive coordinator? Jalen Hurts has not had that.

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Speaker 2: And maybe we'll see that we haven't seen the best

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Speaker 2: of Jalen Hurts because maybe there will be consistency there.

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Speaker 2: But they offensive coordinators, it's it is difficult to play

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Speaker 2: the position to begin with. Then all of a sudden,

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Speaker 2: you got somebody else's coming in now, new terminology, maybe

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Speaker 2: a new mindset. Maybe AJ Brown's not there, Saquon Barkley

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Speaker 2: a year older. Like you know, you got to start

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Speaker 2: factoring these things in. And when we talk about the window,

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Speaker 2: didn't it feel like that Eagles window is wide open,

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Speaker 2: ready for a couple of Super Bowls, winning a couple

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Speaker 2: of Super Bowls.

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Speaker 3: They got to two with this group.

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Speaker 2: Now you wonder It's like the Lions because everybody you know,

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Speaker 2: we have that same approach. Eh, they'll be back. There's

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Speaker 2: no guarantees, no guarantees. Look at Kansas City, man, you

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Speaker 2: got Mahomes, you got Kelsey, Andy Reid, until you're not

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Speaker 2: going to have Mahomes for a little while and you

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Speaker 2: may not have Kelsey. Now, all of a sudden, Kansas

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Speaker 2: City third best team in their division.

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Speaker 3: That's how quickly it happens.

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Speaker 2: Baltimore's had a two time probably should have been a

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Speaker 2: three time MVP at quarterback and have nothing to show

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Speaker 2: for it.

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Speaker 10: Now.

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Speaker 2: I can put blame on him, but it just seems

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Speaker 2: like that game plan always changed when they got.

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Speaker 3: To the postseason.

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Speaker 2: So as much as we like to say, hey that

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Speaker 2: window is still open, it might be, but that's where

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Speaker 2: it's open. But you put your fingers there and that

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Speaker 2: window comes down on them.

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Speaker 3: Yes, Marv.

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Speaker 9: And the way the NFL is built, there's a new

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Speaker 9: team every single year that comes out of nowhere and

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Speaker 9: becomes a contender.

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Speaker 3: All out Houston Texans.

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Speaker 2: Well, there's usually three or four teams. I think we

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Speaker 2: had all the divisional winners, weren't they They've had a

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Speaker 2: new divisional winner and I think that's what you have

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Speaker 2: to factor in. There is hope for your team, but

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Speaker 2: also if you're a team that is already good, there's

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Speaker 2: no guarantee that you stay there.

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Speaker 3: We'll take a break.

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Speaker 2: More phone calls coming up eight seven to seven to

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Speaker 2: three DP show. We'll talk to the former quarterback Alex

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Speaker 2: Smith of the ESPN's NFL Countdown. He'll join us next hour.

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Speaker 2: Back after this with our Play of the Day. Thanks

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Speaker 2: for listening to The Dan Patrick Show podcast. Be sure

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Speaker 5: Oh my God, the play of the day.

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Speaker 2: This is the play of the day.

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Speaker 2: John Blackwell hits a buzzer beater Wisconsin. Uh, they defeat

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Speaker 2: One battle after another seat and is that the name

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Speaker 2: of it?

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Speaker 9: Is that?

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Speaker 12: It?

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Speaker 9: Okay?

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Speaker 3: I finally got through it. It took me. Oh you finished three? Yeah?

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Speaker 2: So I watched fifteen minutes, then I think I watched

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Speaker 2: fifteen minutes, and then I finished it yesterday.

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Speaker 3: So a three three seater, Yes we'll call that, yes, okay, yes.

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Speaker 2: Seawan Penn won the Academy Award. If you watch that movie,

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Speaker 2: I don't know how you don't come away going that

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Speaker 2: is an incredible performance. And I know, I don't know

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Speaker 2: how many people who highlight Sean Penn's movie career. He

666
00:35:02,800 --> 00:35:07,600
Speaker 2: was great as Spacoli, but this movie he is great.

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Speaker 2: He's great, but so is beneath Theo del Toro and

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00:35:12,840 --> 00:35:16,040
Speaker 2: the cast is great. And then there is a younger

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Speaker 2: woman who plays Leonardo DiCaprio's daughter, and she has an

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Speaker 2: interesting name. Have you do you know what that is seeing?

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Speaker 3: I haven't. I haven't looked it up.

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Speaker 7: I will alanahim No, No, Chase Infinity, Chase Infinity, and uh,

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Speaker 7: she is spectacular, steals the movie at the end, steals it.

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Speaker 2: But it's an interesting movie. I didn't follow the storyline

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00:35:44,719 --> 00:35:48,319
Speaker 2: that well. I was trying to. But maybe when you

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00:35:48,360 --> 00:35:51,160
Speaker 2: watch it in three different increments that happens and we got.

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Speaker 4: To pick it up over and over again, it makes

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Speaker 4: a little trickier to get the movie.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I need a refresher there, you know, somebody to say, hey,

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Speaker 2: by the way, this is what's happening here.

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Speaker 4: Doesn't that really speak to the quality of Sean Penn's

682
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Speaker 4: performance though, that over three different sittings you still thought

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Speaker 4: he was great.

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Speaker 2: Sean Penn was great, Yeah he was, he was He's incredible. Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 2: so I would. I would recommend the movie, but it's

686
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Speaker 2: you gotta stay focused with it so good. I really

687
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Speaker 2: liked it, all right. Update the poll results if you

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00:36:20,480 --> 00:36:23,960
Speaker 2: can Seaton. By the way, the Steelers in their last

689
00:36:24,000 --> 00:36:29,200
Speaker 2: seven playoff losses, they the average score is thirty seven

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00:36:29,239 --> 00:36:33,160
Speaker 2: to twenty two. So then you have an average offense

691
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Speaker 2: and you have an overrated defense is what that tells me.

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Speaker 2: You're giving up an average of thirty seven and you're

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Speaker 2: scoring twenty two. You're not beating anybody. And I would

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00:36:43,520 --> 00:36:46,040
Speaker 2: have everybody up for grabs, including TJ.

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Speaker 3: Watt.

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Speaker 2: I would just say, I'm going to open up the pantry,

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Speaker 2: Come on in, what are you gonna give me? I

698
00:36:51,680 --> 00:36:54,600
Speaker 2: know they don't do rebuilds. Maybe you just call it

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Speaker 2: a reload, but it's a rebuild there because you got

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Speaker 2: to find your quarterback. You got to start the way,

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00:37:01,200 --> 00:37:02,719
Speaker 2: you got to find your coach, and then you got

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Speaker 2: to find your quarterback.

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Speaker 3: All right, Seaton, what do you have next year?

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Speaker 4: Mike Tomlin will be a head coach in the media

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Speaker 4: or on a beach playing sudoku right now. In the

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Speaker 4: media has about sixty five percent of that vote, followed

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Speaker 4: by on the beach.

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Speaker 3: Joe and Orlando. Hi, Joe, what's on your mind?

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Speaker 6: I'm going Dan, good morning, so quick question Daan. One

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Speaker 6: thing we can ascertain from these playoffs is that you've

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Speaker 6: got to have a good coach to be competitive. That

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Speaker 6: being said, it seems to me the Raiders have two

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00:37:35,640 --> 00:37:38,600
Speaker 6: pass They can get Mendoza and you can go try to

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Speaker 6: find your next McConnell, your next.

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Speaker 12: McVeigh and that alleviates that revolving doors of ocs. Or

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Speaker 12: do you go get a legitimate qualified Tomlin or football?

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Speaker 12: Trade that first pick, Trade Rosby, Crosby, get.

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Speaker 6: As much as you can and try to rebuild the

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Speaker 6: entire organization.

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Speaker 2: I don't want to trade that pick if that's the quarterback,

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Speaker 2: and you do your due diligence, and that is your quarterback.

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Speaker 2: And granted he might be the next Kirk Cousins, but

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Speaker 2: if you're the Raiders, you'll take that. If I said

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Speaker 2: he's the next Joe Flacco, you take that. I think

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Speaker 2: we envision these quarterbacks and we go, Man, he can

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Speaker 2: be the next Mahomes, next Tom Brady. No, no, no,

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Speaker 2: But can he be somebody who gives you something that's

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Speaker 2: sustainable that when he goes to the line of scrimmage,

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Speaker 2: our game on the line, that you have confidence in him.

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Speaker 2: I mean, the Raiders have been a poorly run organization.

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Speaker 2: They're paying so many coaches. What are they paying three coaches?

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Speaker 2: Maybe four? Now who you're bringing in? Are you going

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Speaker 2: to go on the cheap? Are you going to try

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Speaker 2: to go for a big ticket. I can't imagine John

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Speaker 2: Harbaugh and Mike Tomlin being interested in that job. They're

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Speaker 2: about winning championships. The knock on them is they can't

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Speaker 2: win playoff games there. You're not even getting into the playoffs,

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Speaker 2: you know, Tennessee. I think is a great job for somebody,

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Speaker 2: but not for those guys. They're about when I got

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Speaker 2: to show that I can win another Super Bowl. Not Hey,

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Speaker 2: I'm going to have a winning record for the next

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Speaker 2: five to seven years. So I didn't do anything to

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Speaker 2: your legacy, if that's what you care about. But John Harbaugh,

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Speaker 2: who I worked with the Super Bowl in Minnesota. I

745
00:39:34,960 --> 00:39:38,080
Speaker 2: thought he was really good on TV, and nobody has

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00:39:38,080 --> 00:39:42,120
Speaker 2: brought up is John Harball interested in doing TV? It

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00:39:42,200 --> 00:39:46,640
Speaker 2: feels like all of the all indications aren't. He is

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Speaker 2: going to be a head coach again, and he has

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Speaker 2: his pick of all of these jobs. He did not

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Speaker 2: want to leave. The Ravens did him dirty by firing him,

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Speaker 2: saying they fired there was no mutual. Steelers might have

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00:40:02,760 --> 00:40:07,240
Speaker 2: fired Mike Tomlin right. They're going to keep it really,

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Speaker 2: really quiet because their owner, even though he has a

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Speaker 2: press conference today at noon, usual doesn't say too much.

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Speaker 2: The Raven's owner, Steve's not afraid to get out there

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Speaker 2: and say something, and he did. He said it was

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Speaker 2: time to move on from John Harbaugh.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, Paul, if you're the Steelers owner at noon today,

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Speaker 5: do you take questions?

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Speaker 3: Yeah? Yeah, yeah.

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Speaker 2: I mean if an owner lies to me at a

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Speaker 2: press conference, I'm not going to be shocked if she say, uh,

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Speaker 2: wasn't a mutual party? Did you fire Mike Tomlin. If

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Speaker 2: I'm ownership, I just say no, No. We have great

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Speaker 2: respect for him. You know, this is what he was,

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Speaker 2: this is what he asked for with two years left

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Speaker 2: on his contract. Sorry to see him go Hall of

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Speaker 2: Fame career, and we wish him the best. Yeah, but

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Speaker 2: then it's a mutual part.

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Speaker 9: And they just said Mike Tomas stepped down, correct.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, all right?

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Speaker 10: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: The Ravens didn't even give John Harball that that was dirty.

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Speaker 2: They're like, nah, we fired him, Nope, time to move on.

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Speaker 2: That's why they have security follow you around when you're

776
00:41:19,520 --> 00:41:21,840
Speaker 2: cleaning out your desk. That's what they did at the Mothership.

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Speaker 2: They have security like what are we stealing?

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Speaker 3: It's awkward.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, sorry, I'm gonna steal Danielle's sergeant hour two on

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Speaker 2: the way after this