WEBVTT - #120 - Nems

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<v Speaker 1>Yo, hey, welcome to the Bootleg CAV Podcast. I don't

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<v Speaker 1>know what episode this is. We're pretty deep so far, though.

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<v Speaker 1>Shout out to the homie Nams representing Coney Island. Nams

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<v Speaker 1>is on the podcast today. One of my favorite rappers.

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<v Speaker 1>When it comes to just the lines, he'd be saying,

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<v Speaker 1>this dude is fucking hilarious. Um. He's got a new

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<v Speaker 1>album out called Congo. His whole thing is fuck your life,

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<v Speaker 1>all right. You might have seen him on TikTok he

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<v Speaker 1>got crazy bars. Go watch the interview and the freestyle,

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<v Speaker 1>or I mean go watch the freestyle. Rather, you're about

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<v Speaker 1>to listen to the motherfucking interview, but go watch the

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<v Speaker 1>freestyle on my YouTube page. He catches a fucking body.

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<v Speaker 1>and let's get into this. NAMS Interview Bootlet Cab Podcast

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<v Speaker 1>special guest Coney Island's finest in here. Yo, Yo, y'all,

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<v Speaker 1>fuck your life, bing bong, fuck your life man. Shout

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<v Speaker 1>out to guys. It's good to see you man. Likewise

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<v Speaker 1>in a few years, I know you know, we got

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<v Speaker 1>through the pandemic. You've been super active likewise. Uh and

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<v Speaker 1>uh yeah, you had an interesting rap show last night

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<v Speaker 1>with it was Brother Ali, Immortal Technique yourself? Who am

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<v Speaker 1>I missing? Supernatural? Was there Supernat? When I was a kid?

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<v Speaker 1>The first time I saw Supernat, I freaked out. When

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<v Speaker 1>I was he was like grabbing people's IDs out of

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<v Speaker 1>the crowd and shit and like free selling their name

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<v Speaker 1>and then he would like twirl around and then come

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<v Speaker 1>back as like another rapper's voice. Yo. Did he do

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<v Speaker 1>that last night? No, not to my life, but Yo,

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<v Speaker 1>it's like when I first started battling, he was the

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<v Speaker 1>host of these things and he doesn't look any I'm

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<v Speaker 1>not a day older than back then. I grew older.

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<v Speaker 1>He didn't, Yeah, he used to. And then and then

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<v Speaker 1>I thought he was like, you know, Supernat was like

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<v Speaker 1>in the backpack circuit. He was like every tour, Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>But then they put him on a Lincoln Park Hybrid

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<v Speaker 1>Theory tour, did that and he hosted the Lincoln Park ship.

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<v Speaker 1>It might have been the reanimation. It was one of

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<v Speaker 1>those Lincoln Parks. Oh yeah, And I was like, super

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<v Speaker 1>about the crossover. That's crazy, shout out Supernat, Supernat the

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<v Speaker 1>legend man. So what's up man? What have you been

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<v Speaker 1>up to other than obviously putting out a ship ton

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<v Speaker 1>of music, selling a ship ton of merch? Uh, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>shipping on a ship ton of smokers in your neighborhood, right,

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<v Speaker 1>don't you ever disrespect? Yeah? We working on a comedy tour.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna I'm bringing Gorilla Weekend to every city. Yo.

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<v Speaker 1>Remember where you heard it first? Because I know well

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<v Speaker 1>rappers ain't doing comedy. I'm gonna make it. One night

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<v Speaker 1>I do a rap show, the next night, I do

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<v Speaker 1>a comedy show, the third night, I do a pop up.

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<v Speaker 1>Every city's gonna have a Gorilla weekend. Like when I

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<v Speaker 1>least Congo in August, I had this thing called Gorilla

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<v Speaker 1>Weekend because everything was shut down during the pandemic. So

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<v Speaker 1>I said, you know what, I'm gonna fucking shut down

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<v Speaker 1>my block and Coney Island put barricades up and I

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<v Speaker 1>didn't get no permits nothing. I'm gonna have a flatbed

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<v Speaker 1>trunk pull up. I'm gonna make that the stage and

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<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna fucking perform joints with the album since we

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<v Speaker 1>can't really get a venue right now. Wow. So I

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<v Speaker 1>did that, sold the merch and that was called Gorilla

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<v Speaker 1>Day and then uh, now we're gonna throw Gorilla Days

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<v Speaker 1>in every city any possible working on it right now,

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<v Speaker 1>you find or anything. Nope, I'm the mayor of Coney Island. Man.

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<v Speaker 1>Even the cops know the cops by merch from me.

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<v Speaker 1>People being yo. Man, I got arrested by this fucking

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<v Speaker 1>undercover war in your hat. I was like, town, fuck

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<v Speaker 1>your life. Wow, everybody everybody wears this ship. Man. Hey,

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<v Speaker 1>it's crazy like Coney Island outside of yourself, Like, I

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<v Speaker 1>really can't think of like an artist that you could

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<v Speaker 1>maybe educate me who was like another artist from Cony

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<v Speaker 1>Island to Ray Toray, who's now doing radio. Yes, he

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<v Speaker 1>was on a duckdown for a while. Up. Yeah, there's

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<v Speaker 1>not really that many. Because that's why I rep it

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<v Speaker 1>so hard man. And when I when I used to

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<v Speaker 1>deal with Riggs, Morales and Shady Records, I used to

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<v Speaker 1>run up over there. He was like, your name is

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<v Speaker 1>one of the best things you got going for you.

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<v Speaker 1>You're from You're from Brooklyn, but you're from a neighborhood

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<v Speaker 1>in Brooklyn that nobody ever blew up out of. Yet

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<v Speaker 1>you got And and even before that, I always everybody

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<v Speaker 1>knows of Coney Island. They think of the rides. I

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<v Speaker 1>just think of the Yeah, of course. But when there's

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<v Speaker 1>the rides, that's where Stephan Mulberry is from, right, step On.

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<v Speaker 1>I always think of When I think of Coney Island,

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<v Speaker 1>I think of Stephan Mulberry's tattoo. Yeah, yeah, there's Stephan Maulberry,

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<v Speaker 1>Sebastian Telfair and uh Lance Stevenson. Shout out to Lance Sebastian.

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<v Speaker 1>But he paid. He faced some fed chargers with him.

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<v Speaker 1>I was with him two nights ago. He's great, he's

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<v Speaker 1>doing great. I saw all those names. I was like, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I know y'all, Yo, I was like fucking shirts Friday.

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<v Speaker 1>I was like, yo, back. He was like yo. He's

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<v Speaker 1>like yo minus set back for a major comeback. And

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<v Speaker 1>my whole life I known him. He's done nothing. But

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<v Speaker 1>he played for my sons for like a one season. Yeah, yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>he played for probably every team in the NBA. But

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<v Speaker 1>you know he's, uh, he's one of my my closest friends.

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<v Speaker 1>He's he's he's one of my good friends. And uh,

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<v Speaker 1>he's gonna get through it. Man. Just you know we're talking.

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<v Speaker 1>You were saying, how you know, previously in your music

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<v Speaker 1>used to say the N word. Yeah, for people who

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<v Speaker 1>don't know what is your racial makeup. I'm Puerto Rican

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<v Speaker 1>and I'm Irish. My father who was Irish, passed away

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<v Speaker 1>when I was full. You know what I'm saying. I've

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<v Speaker 1>been around, but I'm I'm in New York. That's that's

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<v Speaker 1>how just people talk in general. Like even the white

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<v Speaker 1>guy said, the Asian people. You know, when you grow

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<v Speaker 1>up around in New York, there's no neighborhoods. That's just

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<v Speaker 1>one race. You live next door to, live next door

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<v Speaker 1>to to somebody from Pakistan, and your next neighbors from

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<v Speaker 1>from the a from from from China, your next door

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<v Speaker 1>other neighbor might be Dominican, but al it's like a

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<v Speaker 1>melting pot, you know what I'm saying, and and and

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<v Speaker 1>and Growing up, it was never even known that it

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<v Speaker 1>was a racial thing. That just became part of our vernacular,

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<v Speaker 1>how we speak to each other, and just growing up

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<v Speaker 1>it was never a problem. So I started doing tours

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<v Speaker 1>and going to other cities besides New York, and then

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<v Speaker 1>I would see people how they would react to me

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<v Speaker 1>saying it, because when you look at me, you might

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<v Speaker 1>see different people see different things. People see me staying

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<v Speaker 1>Puerto Rican. Some people see me some people think I'm Russian.

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<v Speaker 1>Some people think yeah, some people think I'm I'm Arab.

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<v Speaker 1>If you told me you were, like, you know, if

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<v Speaker 1>I came absolutely so it depends on what you see.

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<v Speaker 1>But if you look at me and see I'm white,

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<v Speaker 1>then you would have a problem saying it. And and

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<v Speaker 1>you know, I'm not gonna go in and tell everybody,

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<v Speaker 1>y know, I'm from the hard Nah, it's just if

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<v Speaker 1>you don't like it, say son. Nobody never said nothing

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<v Speaker 1>to me a person, but as a man, and just

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<v Speaker 1>what I don't want to give people a shot of

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<v Speaker 1>not liking me before they even hear me. And more

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<v Speaker 1>importantly than that, I don't want to make anybody. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>at an agent and I'm growing up and being become

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<v Speaker 1>more mature with myself that I don't want to say

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<v Speaker 1>anything to somebody that's gonna offend them, you know, when

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<v Speaker 1>I don't have to like while I start off like

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<v Speaker 1>how when I grew up, I was had to be

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<v Speaker 1>tough and all that, But as I grow up, man,

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<v Speaker 1>I'd rather laugh at you than joke with you. I'd

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<v Speaker 1>rather talk about our similarities than our differences. And and

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<v Speaker 1>just the climate that the world is at right now.

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<v Speaker 1>I just was like, I'm cutting this off out of

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<v Speaker 1>my music and my last album, Congo is your first album.

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<v Speaker 1>That's my first album where I didn't use the word

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<v Speaker 1>because I'm maturing as a man but also as an artist,

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<v Speaker 1>and that just is there's no for me personally. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't have to say it, I'm I'm. I have a

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<v Speaker 1>vocabulary where I don't have to say it. You know

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<v Speaker 1>what I'm saying. I could I could kill verses and

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<v Speaker 1>kill balls without having that in my music, and like boom,

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<v Speaker 1>it's done. Talk to me about bing Bong and like

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<v Speaker 1>how the Knicks remix came to be and the bing

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<v Speaker 1>Bong stuff is, you're a Knicks fan obviously despite being

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<v Speaker 1>from Brooklyn. You you weren't one of these people who

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<v Speaker 1>jumped ship to the net of those Now I'm a

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<v Speaker 1>lifelonge Knicks fan. But I'm also if if the Nets

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<v Speaker 1>go to the playoffs, I'm rooting for them because I'm

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<v Speaker 1>Brooklyn all the way, even though they're really the Jersey

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<v Speaker 1>next listen to Brooklyn. Now they got Brooklyn in their name.

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<v Speaker 1>If they win, I'm in the roof for them, of course.

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<v Speaker 1>But I'm a Knicks fan and uh the Knicks being

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<v Speaker 1>ship forever for the longest. Yeah, So if I could,

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<v Speaker 1>if I created something that's making them get hype and

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<v Speaker 1>maybe possibly put the battery in their back to win

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<v Speaker 1>some games, I love it. But I just started off

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<v Speaker 1>saying it like messing around bing bong, you know, like

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<v Speaker 1>you know, you say, you know, I just bodied this

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<v Speaker 1>verse bong, you know, And then I just bing bong,

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<v Speaker 1>just playing around. I would throw it on my stories

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<v Speaker 1>on Instagram bing bong, showing my merch and then it

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<v Speaker 1>just took off. I started putting it on te's and

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<v Speaker 1>hats and started selling and and then I started the

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<v Speaker 1>side talk people, the side Talk kids, that's the popular

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<v Speaker 1>Instagram page pop and they would have me in their

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<v Speaker 1>video they come to Coney Island. I'm saying that bing bong,

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<v Speaker 1>bing bong. And then it just took off from there,

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<v Speaker 1>and then the Knicks just took off with it. And

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<v Speaker 1>it just was was certain player that like, now, what

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<v Speaker 1>happened is that they was in front of the Knicks

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<v Speaker 1>opening night and the Knicks had won. Everybody in there

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<v Speaker 1>somebody said bing bang from seeing me saying it all

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<v Speaker 1>the time, and uh, and the Knicks just ran with it.

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<v Speaker 1>Took all the Knicks fans just ran with it. And

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<v Speaker 1>then now I'm starting I'm doing all types of sports

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<v Speaker 1>talk radio, little type of Carton and Robbers. They're showing

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<v Speaker 1>me love, They're bringing me up there, and I'm like, Yo,

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<v Speaker 1>there's a whole new fan base and genre just right

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<v Speaker 1>now in the airport. Come here. At least three to

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<v Speaker 1>four guys that I know don't even listen to rap

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<v Speaker 1>came up to me and Yo, you had a bing

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<v Speaker 1>bong guy. And last night at the show, somebody's kids

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<v Speaker 1>was he was like, Yo, my son their basketball team

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<v Speaker 1>is loves the Big Book cause you send me a

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<v Speaker 1>video my my, Yeah, no problem. You know I spent

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<v Speaker 1>years doing all I'm bringing negativity into the world, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>doing the wrong thing. Growing up at the jail time,

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<v Speaker 1>was doing robberies, do all types of stuff. So it's

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<v Speaker 1>a good chance to switch it up, man, and bring

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<v Speaker 1>some positive stuff into the into the atmosphere. Now, do

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<v Speaker 1>you feel like Nott the Cama? I was gonna say,

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<v Speaker 1>do you feel like, uh, just because you've always been

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<v Speaker 1>so nice man? But I always feel like, I don't know,

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<v Speaker 1>maybe it was the end word thing. I always just

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<v Speaker 1>felt like, what is the thing that's not like holding

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<v Speaker 1>me back? Yeah? Like do you feel like you're like

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<v Speaker 1>things are finally lining up for you? Absolutely? Because also

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<v Speaker 1>growing up as an artist, like I really lived this

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<v Speaker 1>fuck your life shit Like yo, I don't I don't

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<v Speaker 1>want to. I'm not a small talk I'm not a

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<v Speaker 1>good network. I'm not gonna approach you and tell you

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<v Speaker 1>y'all you know how you're doing now. If I don't

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<v Speaker 1>know you, I don't want to talk to you. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>a I'm a clothes I'm a loaner. I like to

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<v Speaker 1>you know, with my squad here, but I'm a loaner.

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<v Speaker 1>At the end of the day, I don't mind being alone.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't I don't like talking a lot, so I'm

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<v Speaker 1>six for four, three hundred pounds. People sometimes get intimidated

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<v Speaker 1>by that. They don't want to say nothing. And I

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<v Speaker 1>also move everything that I've gained done with the merger,

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<v Speaker 1>with the music I did on my own. There's no team,

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<v Speaker 1>there's no management, there's no label. I was doing that

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<v Speaker 1>all on my own. And you get a perception if

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<v Speaker 1>you just listen to my music, you think I'm an ignorant,

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<v Speaker 1>dick headish god type of guy. But now when I

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<v Speaker 1>do so I hate knowing podcast, but I do like

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<v Speaker 1>people I fuck with, I fucking show. I do certain

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<v Speaker 1>ones like Premium Pede my man, what I'm saying, And

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<v Speaker 1>once people the story of me, like I tell my

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<v Speaker 1>story because I've been at the bottom for a long time,

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<v Speaker 1>Like even before like I was doing robbery. I didn't

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<v Speaker 1>want to do robberies. It's just how I was fucked up. Man,

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<v Speaker 1>I was sleeping the staircases. I was at the bottom

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<v Speaker 1>of life. And once I told my story, like if

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<v Speaker 1>you really knew what I went through, people would have

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<v Speaker 1>no problem with me winning because I was at the

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<v Speaker 1>bottom bottom and I think as my people see me

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<v Speaker 1>as a person more, they relate to it, you know

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<v Speaker 1>what I'm saying. And that's the same thing DMX. Why

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<v Speaker 1>did we loved him because DMX didn't hold no punches.

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<v Speaker 1>He kept it real with who he was. And when

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<v Speaker 1>you do that, when you're humble, and the humble will

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<v Speaker 1>never be humiliated, you know what I'm saying. When you

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<v Speaker 1>just put all your shit out on front street, this

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<v Speaker 1>is me taking a love it the lead. People respect that,

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<v Speaker 1>but even if they don't like it, they respect it.

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<v Speaker 1>And that's what I throw into my music. And that's

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<v Speaker 1>why people my music is getting better and better because people,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, I throw songs on that emotion. I tell

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<v Speaker 1>my story like and and people fuck with it. I

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<v Speaker 1>mean the ship that's always tell people you could be

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<v Speaker 1>relatable and the music being relatable to people. And if

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<v Speaker 1>the music and the talent you put those two things together. Absolutely,

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<v Speaker 1>if you're broke, rapper about being broke, man struggling, if

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<v Speaker 1>you live with your mom's yo, I live with my

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<v Speaker 1>mom trying to get the fuck out of here. If

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<v Speaker 1>you keep it really like I got a little cousin

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<v Speaker 1>that raps and I tell him, like he always talking

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<v Speaker 1>about shooting that you grew up with both parents in

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<v Speaker 1>a nice house. Like you know what I'm saying. What's

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<v Speaker 1>your thing? You like smoking weed and hanging out with girls?

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<v Speaker 1>About that? Just be yourself? We had this luckily. See

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<v Speaker 1>in the nineties and the earths, you at the front.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm the hardest rapper. It's hard to front now because

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<v Speaker 1>of social media. Exactly everybody, the whole world is transparent. Everybody, Yo,

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<v Speaker 1>Just be yourself. Don't take yourself too seriously. Nobody else does. Yo.

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<v Speaker 1>I feel like if you were in the nineties year,

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<v Speaker 1>it would have been over for you would have been

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<v Speaker 1>out of here. Oh what forget about it? What I

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<v Speaker 1>so you talk about doing like like sometime? What? What?

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<v Speaker 1>What was the reasons why you? Like? First of all,

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<v Speaker 1>what was the longest bis you did? I did a

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<v Speaker 1>one and a half to four and a half year

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<v Speaker 1>bid for robbery in the third degree. Was that this

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<v Speaker 1>was in six And what did you end up? I

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<v Speaker 1>wounded up only doing like thirteen months because I did

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<v Speaker 1>the first first first tund felling program, the shock program

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<v Speaker 1>right where it's like a boot camp type of thing

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<v Speaker 1>because when I was doing the whole fight club ship battling,

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<v Speaker 1>I was on the run. I caught the case that

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<v Speaker 1>I got locked up for. Eventually I caught. I was

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<v Speaker 1>I did it three wow. I did a robbery. I

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<v Speaker 1>got caught and I got bailed out and just was like, well,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not turning myself back and fuck that. And I

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<v Speaker 1>started doing the fight club. I kept winning. I'm all

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<v Speaker 1>over MTV. Shit's popping, and then I get caught. The

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<v Speaker 1>judge was like, yo, boom morning and alfter fall it.

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<v Speaker 1>But she said, since you stayed out of trouble for

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<v Speaker 1>four years, I'm gonna drop this to non violent. Wow.

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<v Speaker 1>So if it was a violent rewarded, if it would

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<v Speaker 1>have stayed a violent felony, then I wouldn't have been

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<v Speaker 1>able to get that first time felling program. But because

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<v Speaker 1>she dropped it to non violent, the one and that

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<v Speaker 1>if you have nine years under, they give you the chance. Yo,

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<v Speaker 1>you're first time feling, you do this this shock boot

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<v Speaker 1>camp type shit. It's still jailed, but it's like a

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<v Speaker 1>boot camp. You make up five am, you gotta run workout,

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<v Speaker 1>da da da. And I was like I didn't want

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<v Speaker 1>to do it, but I was like, yo, my career

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<v Speaker 1>has just started to take over now with the balance

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<v Speaker 1>all over MTV every single night. I was like, let

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<v Speaker 1>me give it a chance. If it works out, it

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<v Speaker 1>works out. If not, so I wounded up doing altogether

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<v Speaker 1>fourteen months. Came home on parole, stayed you know, grab

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<v Speaker 1>the Wizard Nada. I had the Wizardenator at the time

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<v Speaker 1>with the fake piss and uh it works, Huh absolutely

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<v Speaker 1>it was. It was fake pissed or like a fake

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<v Speaker 1>dick that it's a fake dick. See when I came home,

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<v Speaker 1>my guy just had got off a fed parole and

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<v Speaker 1>he was like, yo, hen I don't need this no more.

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<v Speaker 1>Take gave me the fake wid it. But the thing

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<v Speaker 1>was he was a couple of shades darkening me. Oh,

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<v Speaker 1>so you gotta you you you get the dick, you

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<v Speaker 1>buy the one that Yes, if the Wizardnata is a

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<v Speaker 1>is a plastic it's like a dildo, but it comes

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<v Speaker 1>with the power. You gotta strap it around you and

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<v Speaker 1>on the pouch like that goes along your waist is

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<v Speaker 1>you put clean urine into it. And when you go

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<v Speaker 1>to parole, it's like you're pulling out your dick because

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<v Speaker 1>they look at you. They stand behind you, and the

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<v Speaker 1>mirrors on the opposite side, so they look it into

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<v Speaker 1>the mirror. But on the bottom of the fake dick

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<v Speaker 1>is a button and the clean piss comes out of

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<v Speaker 1>it and it stays against your body so it keeps

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<v Speaker 1>the same body temperature warm. So my man, they gave

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<v Speaker 1>it to me like a little bit darker than me.

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<v Speaker 1>So the ship was a little bit darker. I don't

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know how I got away with it. But

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<v Speaker 1>one time they didn't take my piss for like three months.

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<v Speaker 1>Me stupid. I kept the same pissing there. I didn't

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<v Speaker 1>change it, and like whatever. So I went to parole.

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<v Speaker 1>He asked for the urine. I pressed the button. Sh

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<v Speaker 1>came out like apple sauce. I was like, oh, ship,

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<v Speaker 1>he said, yo. He tested it, put a little strip

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<v Speaker 1>in it. He said, yo, it's clean. But I need

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<v Speaker 1>you to go straight to the hospital when you get

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<v Speaker 1>the fuck out of there, because something's not right. I

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<v Speaker 1>was like, sorry, sir, I just don't drink a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of water. I'm going straight to the hospital whatever the case.

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<v Speaker 1>You know what I'm saying. And he let me go,

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<v Speaker 1>and I was like, thank God, empty that ship out.

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<v Speaker 1>Put some guy some clean pits put it in there.

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<v Speaker 1>But yo, that she was crazy. Even me, I was like,

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<v Speaker 1>what the fuck is it? Yeah? So you you came

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<v Speaker 1>out lumpiest thing. It was hard like you like, sir,

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<v Speaker 1>yeah you got cancer, you got something going on with

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<v Speaker 1>your yo to the hospital. You're clean, but this guy

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<v Speaker 1>had frozen. It came out lumpy. Yeah, that was horrible.

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<v Speaker 1>It's funny you look back on times like that. It

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<v Speaker 1>was funny. It wasn't it was, but I don't even remember.

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<v Speaker 1>I was taking pics from anybody. Would you pay people

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<v Speaker 1>for their pistiness? Yeah? Hell yeah, hell y'all, I got

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<v Speaker 1>y'all take a piss in this fucking bottle for me.

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<v Speaker 1>That's crazy. And it comes with like a syringer to

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<v Speaker 1>take it out the fucking cup or whatever, and then

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<v Speaker 1>you put it into the fucking wizard there. That ship

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<v Speaker 1>was a fucking hassle. You know, it would be easy

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<v Speaker 1>if I just didn't do anything. Well, now you're not.

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<v Speaker 1>You don't do anything, So now you're telling me with

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<v Speaker 1>this fucking ape ship man, that's tobacco. Now that tobacco.

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<v Speaker 1>at everything I did man, Like cigarettes have been the

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<v Speaker 1>fucking hortest. But this vape shit you are smoking on

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<v Speaker 1>the plane, you know, chill out smoking on the fucking

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<v Speaker 1>put in my hoodie, yo, like a real fuck? What

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<v Speaker 1>was like? Was we something that you we? Was just

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<v Speaker 1>like everything I was doing. I didn't smoke crack and

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't shoot needles. Everything well, and meth is not

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<v Speaker 1>really on the East Coast, but everything else you were participating. Yeah, yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I was sniffing dope like like like sniffing coke, taking

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<v Speaker 1>Xanax before it was poppedd you sniff Heroin? Yeah, ye yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>oh shout for for a while. Yeah, that's that brought

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<v Speaker 1>me to the bottle man. I was like, I never

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<v Speaker 1>shot no needles though, like and I never so that

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<v Speaker 1>was my thing in my head, like I'm not shooting needles.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm good, you know what I'm saying. Oh, Heroin's like this,

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<v Speaker 1>that's some serious shit to get off those crazy bro.

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<v Speaker 1>How long were you doing Heroin? Probably like eight years?

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<v Speaker 1>And I did the whole of the fight club shit.

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<v Speaker 1>All of that shit was was fucked up. I would go, yo, listen,

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<v Speaker 1>I would go. I remember I went on a specific

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<v Speaker 1>trip to Detroit to battle with Proof and all of that.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't remember anything that happened on the trip. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't If it wasn't recorded, I wouldn't even know I

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<v Speaker 1>went there. Wow. When I first met Alchemist, I was like, yo, aw,

0:19:46.240 --> 0:19:48.879
<v Speaker 1>nice to meet you. He was like, I've been fucking

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<v Speaker 1>with you since we met in Detroit. I was like, damn,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't remember that. Wow, I don't remember meeting one

0:19:53.960 --> 0:19:57.399
<v Speaker 1>of my favorite producers, rass Cast, same thing. He was

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<v Speaker 1>out there Detroit judging the battle and he was like,

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<v Speaker 1>yo oh I mentioned in Deru. I was like, I

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<v Speaker 1>don't even remember. I wasn't even known I was out there.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, eight years is a long time. Yeah, Because

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<v Speaker 1>it wasn't just that, It was that coke and the

0:20:09.119 --> 0:20:11.440
<v Speaker 1>xanax just make you forget everything. Like so, by the

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<v Speaker 1>end of the run, I was on everything. I was

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<v Speaker 1>on probably about two bundles of dopeer day, five twenties

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<v Speaker 1>of coke, and about five xanax every single day. It

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<v Speaker 1>wasn't like I was working, you know what I'm saying.

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<v Speaker 1>I would wake up every day like, y'all, I gotta

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<v Speaker 1>go out and get this money, however it means necessary robbing,

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<v Speaker 1>you know what I'm saying, you feel like you were

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<v Speaker 1>working to keep your drug drug. Absolutely, I had a

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<v Speaker 1>fucking three four hundred dollars a day habit with no job,

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<v Speaker 1>nothing that. So people always say, if you have an addiction,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm sure like you probably apply to a sex addiction too. Like,

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<v Speaker 1>if you have any sort of addiction, right, you got

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<v Speaker 1>to work on yourself constantly, work ethic to get high

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<v Speaker 1>every day. It's exasing, right, It's like yeah, like imagine

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<v Speaker 1>if like most people who had that work ethic to

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<v Speaker 1>get high every day and still be semi like exactly,

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<v Speaker 1>they applied it to literally anything else. That's what I'm

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<v Speaker 1>doing now. You never did you ever smoke crack? No? Never, no, never.

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<v Speaker 1>I just I've always I want to know what crack

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<v Speaker 1>feels like. Nah, watched I watched, I watched it. I

0:21:08.359 --> 0:21:11.360
<v Speaker 1>watched that ship Franklin Safe when girl yeah yeah, yeah,

0:21:11.480 --> 0:21:15.040
<v Speaker 1>she was hitting the crack pipe in the show, I said, shit,

0:21:15.160 --> 0:21:17.600
<v Speaker 1>look like it's fire. But yeah. Now I'm at the

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<v Speaker 1>point where I've been clean over twelve years. It's longer

0:21:21.359 --> 0:21:22.800
<v Speaker 1>than when I was fucked up with you know what

0:21:22.800 --> 0:21:24.960
<v Speaker 1>I'm saying, What was like for you? The breaking point

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<v Speaker 1>where you were like I gotta get the ship, take

0:21:27.600 --> 0:21:30.040
<v Speaker 1>care of the ship. Man. I had, like the fight

0:21:30.040 --> 0:21:32.360
<v Speaker 1>club stuff was going on. I had a development deal

0:21:32.400 --> 0:21:34.920
<v Speaker 1>with Shady Records. There was like your names, you love

0:21:34.920 --> 0:21:38.280
<v Speaker 1>your music, like, but you're going in and out of

0:21:38.359 --> 0:21:41.119
<v Speaker 1>jail because I would do besides the main ship. I

0:21:41.160 --> 0:21:43.480
<v Speaker 1>would do like little skid bids, like I would go

0:21:43.560 --> 0:21:46.680
<v Speaker 1>to Rikers for two weeks, Rikers for a month. Come out.

0:21:46.800 --> 0:21:48.159
<v Speaker 1>You know you're going in and out of jail. We

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<v Speaker 1>take you to places. Sometimes you don't show up. When

0:21:50.119 --> 0:21:52.200
<v Speaker 1>you do show up, you fucking you run outside, you

0:21:52.280 --> 0:21:54.760
<v Speaker 1>rob people outside the studio. You're doing like I was

0:21:54.880 --> 0:21:58.080
<v Speaker 1>just like living crazy. Yeah, yeah, this is you never

0:21:58.119 --> 0:22:01.440
<v Speaker 1>had any instance we thought you overdosed or gotten close

0:22:01.480 --> 0:22:05.199
<v Speaker 1>to like this is back then. It wasn't like the

0:22:05.240 --> 0:22:07.320
<v Speaker 1>fetanyel shit now, like you know what I'm saying it was.

0:22:07.520 --> 0:22:10.119
<v Speaker 1>It was different and I never when I dealt with people,

0:22:10.119 --> 0:22:12.199
<v Speaker 1>I dealt with people I knew that I grew up

0:22:12.200 --> 0:22:13.679
<v Speaker 1>with from Coney Island, you know what I'm saying. Like,

0:22:13.720 --> 0:22:16.240
<v Speaker 1>And it wasn't like luckily I didn't have to go

0:22:16.240 --> 0:22:18.320
<v Speaker 1>through none of that. Was that getting off of the

0:22:18.320 --> 0:22:20.920
<v Speaker 1>shit hard, going through with draws and it was but

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<v Speaker 1>the last year or two of my of my my addiction,

0:22:24.119 --> 0:22:25.919
<v Speaker 1>I was like, yo, I didn't want to do it. It

0:22:25.840 --> 0:22:28.360
<v Speaker 1>It was just more like a job. It was like, yo,

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<v Speaker 1>if I'm ever able to stop doing this for a

0:22:30.240 --> 0:22:32.360
<v Speaker 1>couple of days when I'm not sick anymore, like I'm

0:22:32.359 --> 0:22:34.399
<v Speaker 1>never gonna do this again. I'm so tired of living

0:22:34.400 --> 0:22:36.879
<v Speaker 1>this lifestyle. But I also had given up on my

0:22:36.960 --> 0:22:39.360
<v Speaker 1>dreams with the rap shit like I I didn't want

0:22:39.560 --> 0:22:41.679
<v Speaker 1>I didn't care about nothing but getting high, like and

0:22:41.720 --> 0:22:43.679
<v Speaker 1>then it just had like a moment of clarity. One

0:22:43.760 --> 0:22:47.199
<v Speaker 1>day I was on like a three week run, like

0:22:47.240 --> 0:22:50.080
<v Speaker 1>I hadn't slept, I hadn't shower, with none of that,

0:22:50.280 --> 0:22:52.320
<v Speaker 1>and I was like I had like a I don't

0:22:52.320 --> 0:22:54.439
<v Speaker 1>know if it was like coasist or like out of

0:22:54.440 --> 0:22:56.440
<v Speaker 1>body experience where I was like I could keep going

0:22:56.440 --> 0:22:58.960
<v Speaker 1>how I'm going right now, and I'm gonna be dead

0:22:59.560 --> 0:23:01.199
<v Speaker 1>or going to be in jail the rest of my

0:23:01.280 --> 0:23:04.960
<v Speaker 1>life from doing something stupid. I could just stop right

0:23:05.000 --> 0:23:08.280
<v Speaker 1>now and live my dreams like like I had ready

0:23:08.320 --> 0:23:11.239
<v Speaker 1>giving up on my dreams. And that night I went

0:23:11.280 --> 0:23:13.320
<v Speaker 1>to my mother's house. She was living in Staten Island.

0:23:13.480 --> 0:23:15.840
<v Speaker 1>I was in Coney Island. At the time, I was like, yo, Ma,

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<v Speaker 1>please let me just stay at your house. She was like, nah,

0:23:18.440 --> 0:23:22.920
<v Speaker 1>you can't. She been not letting me. She was, but something.

0:23:23.000 --> 0:23:26.639
<v Speaker 1>She let me stay, and uh, I just kept the

0:23:26.640 --> 0:23:29.520
<v Speaker 1>wheels going. I stopped one day too. I had to

0:23:29.560 --> 0:23:31.520
<v Speaker 1>go through it. And when I got through it, though,

0:23:32.320 --> 0:23:35.240
<v Speaker 1>I never touched nothing again nothing now, not a drink,

0:23:35.320 --> 0:23:38.480
<v Speaker 1>not we eat, nothing. So you've been totally sober. Ye

0:23:39.080 --> 0:23:42.920
<v Speaker 1>nothing nothing. Wow, that's that's real, big man. Yeah, yeah, yeah,

0:23:43.000 --> 0:23:45.200
<v Speaker 1>And and the evidence is there since I stopped that.

0:23:45.359 --> 0:23:48.080
<v Speaker 1>My whole fucking life is you know, like I bought

0:23:48.080 --> 0:23:51.040
<v Speaker 1>my mom's a house, got me a house. God fucking

0:23:51.280 --> 0:23:53.520
<v Speaker 1>right now they're putting us in ground saltwater pool in

0:23:53.520 --> 0:23:56.119
<v Speaker 1>my backyards right now. They're doing it as we speak.

0:23:56.119 --> 0:23:59.359
<v Speaker 1>And and you're still no, no, no. I bought a

0:23:59.440 --> 0:24:03.600
<v Speaker 1>house in stat which is like twenty minutes. It's close

0:24:03.680 --> 0:24:06.720
<v Speaker 1>enough that when I want to hang out and be be,

0:24:06.880 --> 0:24:08.760
<v Speaker 1>you know, be a hood bugger, do hood stuff with

0:24:08.760 --> 0:24:10.560
<v Speaker 1>my hood friends. You know what I'm saying, like, yeah,

0:24:10.640 --> 0:24:13.239
<v Speaker 1>we we we cauld move over there. And and when

0:24:13.280 --> 0:24:15.680
<v Speaker 1>I want to be left alone, go to the crib,

0:24:15.800 --> 0:24:19.199
<v Speaker 1>go to the crib. That's it. I didn't know you

0:24:19.240 --> 0:24:22.119
<v Speaker 1>had a developmental deal with Shady. Yeah. Yeah, I was

0:24:22.119 --> 0:24:24.480
<v Speaker 1>dealing with Riggs, Riggs and morales Man. So that my

0:24:24.480 --> 0:24:26.560
<v Speaker 1>guy was that who kind of found you. Yeah, he

0:24:26.720 --> 0:24:29.520
<v Speaker 1>because he was he was he started the fight club.

0:24:29.600 --> 0:24:32.640
<v Speaker 1>Nobody really knows that he started the fight club, and

0:24:32.680 --> 0:24:34.640
<v Speaker 1>so he was heavily involved with it, so he would

0:24:34.640 --> 0:24:36.840
<v Speaker 1>see he had like a front row seat too. Yeah, yeah, yeah,

0:24:36.880 --> 0:24:40.160
<v Speaker 1>how you got down. Absolutely. I still talk with Riggs

0:24:40.160 --> 0:24:42.960
<v Speaker 1>to this day. Man, he's always He's always shown love

0:24:42.960 --> 0:24:45.479
<v Speaker 1>and been in my corner even like you know, without

0:24:45.920 --> 0:24:49.719
<v Speaker 1>did you ever have any any any experience like meet

0:24:49.720 --> 0:24:52.840
<v Speaker 1>and him or am I didn't meet the rest of

0:24:52.920 --> 0:24:55.439
<v Speaker 1>D twelve, fucked with Heavy, go to Detroit and the

0:24:55.440 --> 0:24:58.880
<v Speaker 1>regular Bazaar would take fly me out, Fucking Proof would

0:24:58.880 --> 0:25:02.960
<v Speaker 1>fly me out. Rest in peace. He's all of them, McVeigh, Swifty,

0:25:02.680 --> 0:25:07.880
<v Speaker 1>they all I still talk with Swifty, uh and Canive.

0:25:08.440 --> 0:25:10.439
<v Speaker 1>You know what I'm saying, Like I fuck with them Heavy, like,

0:25:12.080 --> 0:25:14.560
<v Speaker 1>but I never met him. They always like em like

0:25:15.240 --> 0:25:18.720
<v Speaker 1>he's secluded, you know what I'm saying. Yeah, it's crazy.

0:25:19.040 --> 0:25:21.240
<v Speaker 1>He's like one of the only rappers that like made

0:25:21.280 --> 0:25:23.800
<v Speaker 1>it and just didn't leave. Yeah, yeah, yeah, but like

0:25:23.920 --> 0:25:26.720
<v Speaker 1>also feels like untouchable in the sense because you would think,

0:25:26.760 --> 0:25:28.439
<v Speaker 1>like if you're that big out of Detroit, you wouldn't

0:25:28.440 --> 0:25:30.360
<v Speaker 1>get the fuck out of the true fact he's staying

0:25:30.400 --> 0:25:33.080
<v Speaker 1>in fact, and like, no, I do know in Detroit

0:25:33.160 --> 0:25:35.320
<v Speaker 1>for me the limited times I'm out there, I don't

0:25:35.359 --> 0:25:37.600
<v Speaker 1>know the politics or street probably, but I do know

0:25:37.720 --> 0:25:41.040
<v Speaker 1>like a lot of people know each other. Mostly people

0:25:41.080 --> 0:25:43.560
<v Speaker 1>know each other. And Trick, Trick is really that guy

0:25:43.640 --> 0:25:48.479
<v Speaker 1>out there. Sure, I'm saying crazy scene and Trick is close,

0:25:48.680 --> 0:25:51.360
<v Speaker 1>you know what I'm saying. So he's like something good

0:25:51.359 --> 0:25:55.040
<v Speaker 1>money you Fat Joe just showed you some love. They

0:25:55.080 --> 0:25:57.800
<v Speaker 1>asked him. We cracked. Who are what they asking? That's

0:25:57.880 --> 0:26:00.159
<v Speaker 1>pretty much who was like today's fat Joe. But they

0:26:00.160 --> 0:26:05.520
<v Speaker 1>asked him a whole array of who's the new whow this? That? That? That?

0:26:05.680 --> 0:26:09.119
<v Speaker 1>And they asked me, is there new? Yeah, there's a

0:26:09.160 --> 0:26:11.160
<v Speaker 1>new faedual. His name is names out of Corney Allen

0:26:11.200 --> 0:26:13.560
<v Speaker 1>And I was like, yeah, that's crazy. So you you

0:26:13.600 --> 0:26:16.760
<v Speaker 1>and Joe got a relationship, Yeah, Joe, Uh, I mean

0:26:16.840 --> 0:26:18.880
<v Speaker 1>we're not super close. I've I've hung out with him

0:26:18.920 --> 0:26:21.480
<v Speaker 1>on different occasions, like we've gone to shows and through

0:26:21.560 --> 0:26:24.320
<v Speaker 1>my man Ufo feed. My man Ufo feed really made

0:26:24.400 --> 0:26:29.320
<v Speaker 1>the introduction and and me and Fever was doing a

0:26:29.320 --> 0:26:31.320
<v Speaker 1>lot do a lot of music. And when he made

0:26:31.320 --> 0:26:34.440
<v Speaker 1>the introduction with with with Joe Crack, I called him

0:26:34.440 --> 0:26:37.040
<v Speaker 1>crack you know what I'm saying. But when he made

0:26:37.040 --> 0:26:39.440
<v Speaker 1>the introduction with crack cracks and showed me love automatically,

0:26:39.480 --> 0:26:41.560
<v Speaker 1>and then from me being around him more and you

0:26:41.640 --> 0:26:44.080
<v Speaker 1>see how movie follows me, you know, and he's we

0:26:44.280 --> 0:26:46.399
<v Speaker 1>speak through the d m s and and even his

0:26:46.520 --> 0:26:48.960
<v Speaker 1>team like Uncle Dan and a couple of days they

0:26:49.280 --> 0:26:50.879
<v Speaker 1>fuck with me. They showed me mad love. So I

0:26:50.880 --> 0:26:53.520
<v Speaker 1>guess from just from him observing and watching and he

0:26:53.640 --> 0:26:55.639
<v Speaker 1>you know, he's he's. He had told me that before

0:26:55.680 --> 0:26:56.960
<v Speaker 1>he said it on the TV, like you'd be like

0:26:57.040 --> 0:26:59.080
<v Speaker 1>your names you Mimy and me when I was younger man,

0:26:59.400 --> 0:27:00.920
<v Speaker 1>a couple of times he told me that. But for

0:27:01.000 --> 0:27:03.760
<v Speaker 1>him to say it on Rap City's first episode, yeah,

0:27:04.400 --> 0:27:05.959
<v Speaker 1>I didn't even know he was doing that, and my

0:27:05.960 --> 0:27:09.440
<v Speaker 1>phone just started blowing up, like y'all fat Joe just

0:27:09.480 --> 0:27:12.560
<v Speaker 1>said that. Look, I said, Yo, that's I think one

0:27:12.600 --> 0:27:15.480
<v Speaker 1>of the only times in my throughout this Rap shit

0:27:15.520 --> 0:27:18.639
<v Speaker 1>that I actually like almost I didn't cry, but I

0:27:18.640 --> 0:27:22.840
<v Speaker 1>almost shed a tear out of just pure I grew

0:27:22.920 --> 0:27:25.000
<v Speaker 1>up listening to Fat Joe Big Pun is my favorite art,

0:27:25.040 --> 0:27:27.400
<v Speaker 1>especially being a Puerto Rican from New York. Like they

0:27:27.440 --> 0:27:30.119
<v Speaker 1>held it down, like especially in my era when I

0:27:30.160 --> 0:27:33.679
<v Speaker 1>was they was them guys. So when he said that,

0:27:33.720 --> 0:27:36.320
<v Speaker 1>it was more like validation, like from all this hard

0:27:36.320 --> 0:27:39.920
<v Speaker 1>work because me, I'm my own worst critic, I still

0:27:39.960 --> 0:27:43.800
<v Speaker 1>grind every day like I'm like nothing, Like I'm still

0:27:43.840 --> 0:27:46.280
<v Speaker 1>like nobody knows me, you know what I'm saying. I

0:27:46.320 --> 0:27:49.640
<v Speaker 1>look at it like, bro, I have not reached where

0:27:49.640 --> 0:27:52.520
<v Speaker 1>I want to be in this music stuff, so I

0:27:52.600 --> 0:27:54.919
<v Speaker 1>still act like nobody knows me. And I got to

0:27:54.920 --> 0:27:56.840
<v Speaker 1>make an impression every single time, and I got to

0:27:56.880 --> 0:28:00.440
<v Speaker 1>put into work every single day to live my dreams

0:28:00.640 --> 0:28:02.480
<v Speaker 1>to the extent that I want to live it. So

0:28:02.480 --> 0:28:06.760
<v Speaker 1>when he said that, it was like validation, Like, Yo,

0:28:06.840 --> 0:28:10.679
<v Speaker 1>somebody's out there watching, especially somebody who especially one hundred

0:28:10.680 --> 0:28:13.720
<v Speaker 1>percent like and you know, I got a little watery ey.

0:28:13.800 --> 0:28:15.320
<v Speaker 1>I ain't shed a tear, you know what I'm saying

0:28:16.080 --> 0:28:18.520
<v Speaker 1>over here, But like it was it was like it

0:28:18.640 --> 0:28:21.120
<v Speaker 1>was one of the best moments of my career. Man,

0:28:21.240 --> 0:28:23.440
<v Speaker 1>what's next for you? Are you gonna keep just kind

0:28:23.440 --> 0:28:25.879
<v Speaker 1>of keep keep your foot on the gas with music. Well,

0:28:26.000 --> 0:28:28.680
<v Speaker 1>next is me and Scram Jones dropping the album. That

0:28:28.720 --> 0:28:33.280
<v Speaker 1>ship is ridiculous. It's just stupid, hard, just hard. I

0:28:33.280 --> 0:28:36.400
<v Speaker 1>think he's one of the slept on producers. Yeah, yeah,

0:28:36.920 --> 0:28:39.480
<v Speaker 1>I knew Scram since he was there from the beginning.

0:28:39.600 --> 0:28:41.680
<v Speaker 1>Like when I first started, I don't know, he was lapping.

0:28:42.480 --> 0:28:45.480
<v Speaker 1>Scram is nasty. A lot of people don't know. And

0:28:46.080 --> 0:28:47.920
<v Speaker 1>one of the things that's holding up the album is

0:28:48.000 --> 0:28:49.560
<v Speaker 1>like Scream, we gotta get a joint, me and you.

0:28:50.240 --> 0:28:53.280
<v Speaker 1>I'm not right and like Scam, let's go bro with

0:28:53.360 --> 0:28:56.880
<v Speaker 1>the verse on the ship. Let's go. But he's nice

0:28:56.920 --> 0:28:58.720
<v Speaker 1>and a lot of mcs that I know for sure,

0:28:59.240 --> 0:29:01.560
<v Speaker 1>but his beats and that's the next project after that,

0:29:01.600 --> 0:29:05.959
<v Speaker 1>probably me a static selected nice shot static, and then

0:29:05.960 --> 0:29:08.640
<v Speaker 1>we're just taking it from them. There it is, man, listen,

0:29:08.760 --> 0:29:12.040
<v Speaker 1>congoes out out right now. Fuck your life, Fuck your life?

0:29:13.120 --> 0:29:16.160
<v Speaker 1>Is there anybody any Let me ask you this because

0:29:16.360 --> 0:29:19.520
<v Speaker 1>since the pandemic started, I feel like I always say this,

0:29:19.680 --> 0:29:24.479
<v Speaker 1>like I feel like it helped with the bars in

0:29:24.600 --> 0:29:29.240
<v Speaker 1>terms of fans, wanting that or wanting more substance, or

0:29:29.280 --> 0:29:32.720
<v Speaker 1>wanting more from music, because motherfuckers weren't in the club

0:29:32.760 --> 0:29:36.840
<v Speaker 1>standing on couches popping bottles. So you saw Benny and

0:29:37.240 --> 0:29:39.720
<v Speaker 1>Westside Gunn and Freddie Gibbs, all these people have the

0:29:39.760 --> 0:29:42.520
<v Speaker 1>best years of their career. Royster five nine was nominated

0:29:42.520 --> 0:29:44.600
<v Speaker 1>for a Grammy. You know what I'm saying, Like, do

0:29:44.640 --> 0:29:47.400
<v Speaker 1>you feel like that the pandemic helped kind of like

0:29:47.680 --> 0:29:50.840
<v Speaker 1>correct the path that hip hop was on because it

0:29:50.840 --> 0:29:55.800
<v Speaker 1>feels like absolutely, man, absolutely, that's listen. Everything has its

0:29:55.800 --> 0:29:58.960
<v Speaker 1>cycle facts, you know. So it was already gearing back

0:29:59.000 --> 0:30:02.840
<v Speaker 1>towards the lyric in music and the stuff that I'm

0:30:02.840 --> 0:30:06.000
<v Speaker 1>show me and you grew up listening to. But the

0:30:06.040 --> 0:30:08.680
<v Speaker 1>pandemic pushed it forward like a little like made it

0:30:09.280 --> 0:30:13.520
<v Speaker 1>rapidly and speed up the process. Yeah, and it's great,

0:30:13.560 --> 0:30:16.600
<v Speaker 1>great time. I never stopped doing this, even when people

0:30:16.600 --> 0:30:19.280
<v Speaker 1>were snapping their fingers bouncing. I was always doing the

0:30:19.360 --> 0:30:21.880
<v Speaker 1>hype of music, man, And the people know that, and

0:30:21.880 --> 0:30:25.080
<v Speaker 1>and and and and they respect when the transparency and

0:30:25.080 --> 0:30:28.200
<v Speaker 1>when you fucking continuously do something no matter what, if

0:30:28.200 --> 0:30:31.400
<v Speaker 1>you show consistency and just keep at it, something's gonna

0:30:31.400 --> 0:30:34.040
<v Speaker 1>happen out of it in the positive manner. Where can

0:30:34.120 --> 0:30:36.280
<v Speaker 1>people buy merch? Find your ship? Because you got so

0:30:36.360 --> 0:30:42.720
<v Speaker 1>much every day anybody, I f y L dot n

0:30:42.880 --> 0:30:46.000
<v Speaker 1>y c. Because if you got a dot calm, you pussy.

0:30:46.120 --> 0:30:49.680
<v Speaker 1>You know what I'm saying, n y C. Yeah, go

0:30:49.680 --> 0:30:51.920
<v Speaker 1>buy a hat, Go buy a buy some merch. Stop

0:30:51.920 --> 0:30:54.040
<v Speaker 1>being a cheap fuck your whole life so your girl

0:30:54.080 --> 0:30:57.000
<v Speaker 1>hate you. Go buy a Godzilla his pussy shirt facts

0:30:58.040 --> 0:30:59.360
<v Speaker 1>relaship Boom Bom