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Speaker 1: three weeks in a day away from NFL Draft two
Speaker 1: twenty three, and Ron Wolfley just let the insanity wash
Speaker 1: over you. I mean, this week alone, we've already heard
Speaker 1: that Houston might take will Anderson number two. Overall. They
Speaker 1: might do it. They might. They're just crazy enough they
Speaker 1: might do it. An anonymous league personnel man tells Peter
Speaker 1: King the Titans are exploring the possibility of trading up
Speaker 1: to number three. Hello, Monty, the Raiders are taking Bryce
Speaker 1: Young to dinner this week. Why when they picked number seven?
Speaker 1: The Cardinals supposedly, reportedly allegedly might just release DeAndre Hopkins.
Speaker 1: Somebody sound the light detector on that one. And my favorite,
Speaker 1: Ron Wolflee, are the reports out there, the anecdotal evidence
Speaker 1: that Jets fans are already booking flights and hotels for
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Speaker 1: santan Ford and Gilbert We are santan Ford, Paul Calvc here,
Speaker 1: Ron Wolfley right there, Polly, I everything you just said
Speaker 1: right there, I thought of one thing, and that one
Speaker 1: thing is tis the season? Is it not? Yes? Draft
Speaker 1: supterfuge here it comes coming your way. Believe nobody, Polly,
Speaker 1: at this point in time, that is true. In fact,
Speaker 1: you know what, let's just get enrolled right now. We
Speaker 1: got Albert Brier, who, from some reason, I don't know
Speaker 1: if Albert Brier if he's on some sort of mission
Speaker 1: to drive down the value of DeAndre Hopkins. A week
Speaker 1: ago he came out and said, Oh, DeAndre Hopkins a
Speaker 1: league personnel. People are telling me that he might not
Speaker 1: command much more than Brandon Cook's a fifth rounder, a
Speaker 1: sixth rounder. Now this week, here's what Albert Brier says
Speaker 1: about de hops You're in the easy. Some teams they're
Speaker 1: gonna cut him. I think the Cardinals are gonna wind
Speaker 1: him cutting him. His market is not great right now.
Speaker 1: And even for teams like say like Kansas City, like
Speaker 1: Kansas City would need him to take a significant piggy.
Speaker 1: He'd have to be like take the Smith Schuster deal
Speaker 1: from U, right, right, right, So I clearly there's nobody
Speaker 1: that was willing to take on the contract and pay
Speaker 1: the Cardinals initial price. Your reaction to that, you know, Bully,
Speaker 1: the first thing I thought of is does he know
Speaker 1: Monnie Asenford? Does he know Monnie Assenford. And the reason
Speaker 1: why I say that, Paully, is because do you remember
Speaker 1: the Rodney Hudson situation. Do you remember what the Raiders did?
Speaker 1: Think of what the Raiders did? Remember that story came
Speaker 1: down that the Raiders were gonna cut Rodney Hudson. That's right,
Speaker 1: all we were all shocked. What are you talking about?
Speaker 1: They're gonna cut Rodney Hudson. I think they did this.
Speaker 1: This is what I believe. I think they let that
Speaker 1: story out. They leaked that story the Raiders themselves because
Speaker 1: they wanted every GM in the league. You go, WHOA,
Speaker 1: what do you mean you're gonna cut him? We don't
Speaker 1: need We don't want you to know, don't do that.
Speaker 1: What if I give you a fourth round pick for him?
Speaker 1: What if I give you a fit? What if I
Speaker 1: give you a third round pick for Rodney Hudson. We
Speaker 1: don't want you to cut him because he's gonna clear
Speaker 1: waivers with his contract and then he's going to become
Speaker 1: a free agent. And if that means we're gonna have
Speaker 1: to bid against other teams for that guy's services, Paulie,
Speaker 1: this makes me think maybe Monni Asinforten Arizona Cardinals is impossible.
Speaker 1: They're leaking this story out there to let it be known. Hey, listen,
Speaker 1: if you're thinking about DeAndre Hopkins at all, you know what,
Speaker 1: you might want to be able to negotiate with him
Speaker 1: on a one on one basis as opposed to a
Speaker 1: free agent. You know what makes sense, paul You know what,
Speaker 1: It's just as plausible as anything else that's being thrown
Speaker 1: out there. In fact, I think there's a lot more
Speaker 1: thought behind your rationale, in your theory than maybe some
Speaker 1: of the other stuff that is out there. Reports have
Speaker 1: said the Cardinals gave Team d hop DeAndre Hopkins and
Speaker 1: his new agent the ability to talk to other teams
Speaker 1: to explore Paul another contract. So they ask yourself, why
Speaker 1: would they do that. There's a willingness to try a
Speaker 1: team to see if, okay, maybe a deal could be
Speaker 1: had a contracting me. It's sort of like the Sean
Speaker 1: Payton reverse. You go out to negotiate the contract, then
Speaker 1: we'll figure out the value in exactly Paul. That's exactly it.
Speaker 1: And why would a team want to do that? Why? Well,
Speaker 1: because they have a one on one conversation going with
Speaker 1: DeAndre Hopkins as opposed to five other teams that might
Speaker 1: actually be interested in him and driving his price up.
Speaker 1: And when you say other teams, you say five teams,
Speaker 1: And you know what, I think it is five. I
Speaker 1: think it's Kansas City. I think it's New England. I
Speaker 1: think it's Tennessee. I think it's Baltimore, and I think
Speaker 1: it's the Giants. I think those are the five teams,
Speaker 1: And I would say to those five teams, and you
Speaker 1: know what, I'm going to tap the mic just to
Speaker 1: make sure I have their attention. Have you seen this
Speaker 1: year's draft class. It is very shallow draft pool when
Speaker 1: it comes to receiver. All the free agent wide receivers
Speaker 1: have been picked over. And guess what Denver and Sean
Speaker 1: Payton just said. Guess what, We're not trading Jerry Judy
Speaker 1: and Courtland Sutton. They're off the market. So good luck
Speaker 1: with a plug and play wide receiver in this draft.
Speaker 1: When a couple of years ago, remember our stat the
Speaker 1: worst hit rate for any rookie position group in recent
Speaker 1: history and memory in the draft is always wide receiver
Speaker 1: at less than twenty percent, even round one. Guys. There's
Speaker 1: always that learning curve a receiver. So I think the
Speaker 1: Cardinals do have that. That's why Ian Rappaport came out
Speaker 1: and said, quote, I would be surprised if DeAndre Hopkins
Speaker 1: was released. Now, if he's traded, guess what his salary
Speaker 1: will be adjusted? And report Ian Rappaport once again, bully,
Speaker 1: here's your assignment right here. Are you ready for your assignments?
Speaker 1: Is you need to find out if Monti Astenford has
Speaker 1: any type of relationship with Albert Preyer. Okay, you need
Speaker 1: to figure that out, right, there is Astenford kind of
Speaker 1: leaking this stuff to Albert Brier. Bully, that's what you
Speaker 1: got to get to that. Get to the bottom of
Speaker 1: that story and then you'll know what's going on. Because
Speaker 1: with Rodney Hudson, all of a sudden, the Raiders came
Speaker 1: out and let it be known. And it wasn't right
Speaker 1: away they let it be known. No, no, no, we're
Speaker 1: not We're not going to cut Rodney Hudson. And sure enough,
Speaker 1: there it was. The Arizona Cardinals made a deal. I
Speaker 1: think this is a way to get teams lining up
Speaker 1: at the door just to make a phone call, teams
Speaker 1: that may not have actually called the Cardinals yet, just
Speaker 1: saying whoa, well, hey, what will it take for us
Speaker 1: to get them at one on one? What will it take?
Speaker 1: You know? I think this is a way to drum
Speaker 1: up interest and Albert Brier, whether he knows Monty Asenford
Speaker 1: or not, this is actually helping the Arizona Cardinals because
Speaker 1: I think there are teams that would call and say, well,
Speaker 1: before you do that, what would it take? All right,
Speaker 1: So if they're not lining up or DeAndre Hopkins. Are
Speaker 1: they going to be lining Maybe they're already for number
Speaker 1: three overall, and you know our model around here, Azy
Speaker 1: needs three, meaning three quarterbacks. And then guess what the
Speaker 1: sweepstakes are on. Is that third quarterback to go a CJ.
Speaker 1: Stroud and Bryce Young? Could it be Anthony Richardson? Well,
Speaker 1: we asked Drew stant about that this week on the
Speaker 1: Red Sea Report. No, he's not a franchise quarterback for
Speaker 1: multiple reasons. The completion percentage is extremely alarming. That's the
Speaker 1: starting point. The other point that you get to is
Speaker 1: the question marks are too large from the standpoint of
Speaker 1: he's at Florida. You look at his college record of
Speaker 1: what he was able to accomplish, and you couple that
Speaker 1: with the subpar completion percentage. What makes you think that
Speaker 1: when he gets to an NFL team that he's going
Speaker 1: to be able to flip the script and do that.
Speaker 1: It's Trey Lance all over again. Thirteen career college starts,
Speaker 1: Trey Lance, Anthony Richardson, and all the measurables are there,
Speaker 1: all the upside is there. You don't have the production
Speaker 1: or the college film they want to see at the
Speaker 1: NFL level. But Will somebody take a chance, Will somebody
Speaker 1: make the Cardinals an offer they can't refuse? In number
Speaker 1: three for Anthony Richardson, Yes, you think so, Spaly, Oh,
Speaker 1: I don't think there's any doubt about it. I think
Speaker 1: Drew is right. And I said this about Anthony Richardson
Speaker 1: myself that I don't think Anthony Richardson is a first
Speaker 1: round pick. I don't believe that now is his stats,
Speaker 1: there's no doubt about it. In terms of his traits
Speaker 1: and his physical size and athleticism, of course he is.
Speaker 1: He's a first round pick. But if you're talking about quarterback,
Speaker 1: I don't think he's a first round pick. I think
Speaker 1: he's probably a second or a third round pick. But PAULI,
Speaker 1: that's not the way it works in the National Football League.
Speaker 1: History will tell you right now that there are people
Speaker 1: that will come up and believe that Anthony Richardson is
Speaker 1: a franchise quarterback, especially when you talk about today's new
Speaker 1: offense and the new wage offense that is permeated in
Speaker 1: the fact that Jalen Hurts. Of course, just how much
Speaker 1: Jalen Hurts has influenced the rest of the league offensively,
Speaker 1: I think there are a lot of people that believe
Speaker 1: Anthony Richardson is Cam Newton all over again, except a
Speaker 1: better deep ball thrower than Cam Newton. So he's going
Speaker 1: to get a shot. I think there is going to
Speaker 1: be somebody that is going to fall in love with
Speaker 1: Anthony Richardson and they're gonna want to move up to
Speaker 1: number three. And I think that somebody could be the Colts.
Speaker 1: There are reports out there speaking of Jalen Hurts, that
Speaker 1: Shane Steichen, the Colts new head coach, sees Anthony Richardson
Speaker 1: potentially as quote a super charged version of Jalen Hurts, right,
Speaker 1: And the guy who developed Jalen Hurts from the second round,
Speaker 1: pick two, second team All Pro behind Patrick Mahomes could
Speaker 1: be the coach in waiting for an Anthony Richardson. And
Speaker 1: we know Jim Mercy, the owner, has already been on
Speaker 1: record several times. There are three or four quarterbacks in
Speaker 1: this draft. So just maybe, just maybe, the plan we've
Speaker 1: all thought about all along is that Indy comes up
Speaker 1: one to get their guy, in this case Anthony and Richardson,
Speaker 1: and the Cardinals get their guy, Will Anderson and some
Speaker 1: extra picks. We'll see. That's still very, very viable I
Speaker 1: would say, yeah, Paul, have we seen NFL teams reach
Speaker 1: for quarterbacks in the first round before every year? Here? Yes,
Speaker 1: we have seen that. Right there. There are some people
Speaker 1: out there, PAULI that will tell you right now, there
Speaker 1: are some scouts that say, hey, you know what, c J.
Speaker 1: Stroud is no slam dunk. They'll even say that about Bryce.
Speaker 1: They'll say Bryce Young is no slam dunk either, you know.
Speaker 1: I mean, look, there are a lot of teams in
Speaker 1: the NFL that are desperate for a franchise quarterback, and
Speaker 1: unfortunately for them, that desperation makes them take chances. Think
Speaker 1: about it wasn't that long ago twenty seventeen. What are
Speaker 1: the Bears? They moved up from three to two? Yeah,
Speaker 1: why to take Mitchell Trubisky. Yes, and they gave up
Speaker 1: to move up one spot. They gave up number three overall,
Speaker 1: as the Niners only had to move down one. They
Speaker 1: gave up an extra third round pick, an extra fourth
Speaker 1: round pick, and then a third round pick. Then next season,
Speaker 1: how about two years ago twenty twenty one, Trevor Lawrence
Speaker 1: went one, Zach Wilson number two. And then what did
Speaker 1: the Niners do? They traded three first round picks to
Speaker 1: move up to number three for trade lance. Yes, so, look,
Speaker 1: you're absolutely right. History says there's a real good chance
Speaker 1: better than not of it happening and the Cardinals moving
Speaker 1: down to a least number four and cashing in the
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Speaker 1: we roll on every day, I ask Money, I'm like, Money,
Speaker 1: what you doing with that pick? What you're doing with
Speaker 1: that pick? He's like, you know what I'm doing with
Speaker 1: that pick. I don't know what you're doing with that pick.
Speaker 1: But a lot of flexibility I think that we have
Speaker 1: with that because of where we're at, and I know
Speaker 1: he's got all the different options, how he wants to
Speaker 1: do things and what we're looking to get out of
Speaker 1: the certain options. If he chooses to move out of it,
Speaker 1: What does he mean by that exactly? Mannie austin Ford
Speaker 1: when he answers Jonathan Gannon with you know what I'm
Speaker 1: gonna do with that pick. Well, we're here to fill
Speaker 1: in the blanks. This edition of the Big Red Rage
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Speaker 1: Paul kelvc Ron Wolfley, and now joined by Cardinals insider
Speaker 1: and attendee at the NFL Owners Meetings Darren urban Is
Speaker 1: on board. And Darren, that was a comment made to
Speaker 1: NFL Network at the Owner's meetings. So, gentlemen, when Jonathan
Speaker 1: Gannon poses that question of Monnie Austin, Ford says, you
Speaker 1: know what I'm doing with that pick? Multiple choice here,
Speaker 1: Either A you're taking Willison. B you're trading in a
Speaker 1: way because somebody wants a quarterback? Is there a ci? Yes?
Speaker 1: What would c be a trade down with the coltson
Speaker 1: still draft will Anderson? Okay, Paul, that that is the
Speaker 1: best way to go. You and I both know it. Okay.
Speaker 1: So Darren, what do you think can we read anything
Speaker 1: into that SoundBite? Have the Cardinals already decided, for example,
Speaker 1: what they're doing with number three overall based on that response? Well,
Speaker 1: I mean to be honest, Paul, based on that response,
Speaker 1: the answer could be exactly what you just said. If
Speaker 1: Monty's telling them, you know what I'm gonna do with
Speaker 1: that pick. It could be we're either trading down or
Speaker 1: taking will Anderson. And again, we don't know for sure
Speaker 1: if it's gonna be will Anderson. Everybody's making that guestimate,
Speaker 1: but I don't think they know for sure what's going
Speaker 1: to happen. There's a possibility, yes, that Monte Assenford has
Speaker 1: been has talked to teams already and has an idea
Speaker 1: of a potential trade on the clock that somebody said,
Speaker 1: we will do this if this is the scenario. So
Speaker 1: maybe he does have an idea that a trade could happen.
Speaker 1: But my guess is ultimately this is gonna be about
Speaker 1: what is happening in those ten minutes that the Cardinals
Speaker 1: are on the clock after Houston makes their pick, and
Speaker 1: the Cardinals are on their clock, and they're gonna know,
Speaker 1: you know, hey, do we want to take will Anderson
Speaker 1: for example, or is somebody going on a trade up
Speaker 1: for whoever might be there, whatever quarterback that might be.
Speaker 1: And by the way, you know, if those rumors and
Speaker 1: reports are true that the Texans are truly taking crazy
Speaker 1: pills and they might take will Anderson number two overall
Speaker 1: instead of a franchise quarterback. That's not a bad thing
Speaker 1: for the Arizona Cardinals in my estimation, because wolf that
Speaker 1: means Bryce Young or c J. Strout is on the board,
Speaker 1: And that's why the Cardinals hang on to number three
Speaker 1: until draft night, just in case, and then because what
Speaker 1: happens and what are teams willing to trade? You? Oh,
Speaker 1: if one of those two marquis elite quarterbacks is still
Speaker 1: on the board at three, that's where you really might
Speaker 1: cash it in. Yeah, you know, Polly, there's a rumor
Speaker 1: that is out there right now that I tend to
Speaker 1: believe the Tennessee Titans and the fact that Tennessee Titans
Speaker 1: are sitting there and they're looking at Anthony Richardson at
Speaker 1: number three and thinking to themselves, Man, can you imagine
Speaker 1: how beautiful that would be for Anthony Richardson to be
Speaker 1: handing the ball off to Derek Henry right behind that
Speaker 1: offensive line in this offense where we use an awful
Speaker 1: lot of twelve personnel, two tight ends, we're gonna hammer
Speaker 1: the ball. Anthony Richardson is so alluring to a Tennessee
Speaker 1: Titans team. I think that I am more convinced than ever,
Speaker 1: the Arizona Cardinals are going to have a decision to make.
Speaker 1: Are you going to draft Will Anderson at number three
Speaker 1: or are you gonna move down? And I still believe
Speaker 1: the Indianapolis Colts are big players in this too. It's
Speaker 1: funny you bring up the Titans because the reality is
Speaker 1: given where Derrick Henry is in his career and where
Speaker 1: Anthony Richardson's going to be in his career, the chances
Speaker 1: of them playing together significant amounts of years is probably
Speaker 1: very limited. But I understand what you're saying. If you're
Speaker 1: the Titans and you're eventually going to want to run
Speaker 1: the ball with somebody beyond Derrick Henry, you know, maybe
Speaker 1: that's a possibility. I think I think it would benefit
Speaker 1: the Cardinals greatly if that Titans rumor continues to gain steam,
Speaker 1: because then you do potentially ramp up the pressure on
Speaker 1: the Colts to make some kind of deal. But I
Speaker 1: don't know, I don't think anything's been decided. You know what,
Speaker 1: the Titans need almost as much as a future franchise
Speaker 1: quarterback wide receiver one. So throw DeAndre Hopkins into it
Speaker 1: and make it a massive trade package and figure it
Speaker 1: all out. Monty and his former team that might come
Speaker 1: to fruition. Maybe just maybe we do know Jonathan in
Speaker 1: it has other things to worry about, like, oh, as
Speaker 1: a first time head coach, getting the off season program rolling,
Speaker 1: getting the voluntary veteran mini camp going as well. Here's
Speaker 1: Drew stan former Cardinals quarterback, on the Red Sea Report.
Speaker 1: And when we were talking about the importance of the
Speaker 1: off season work, there's a lot to be said for
Speaker 1: the continuity that's built when you can just kind of
Speaker 1: come together and you start building what this roster is
Speaker 1: going to look like and guys just interacting and playing golf,
Speaker 1: and those are the things that you look for that
Speaker 1: you are excited about of being back around your guys,
Speaker 1: because again, when the season starts, you have to rely
Speaker 1: on everybody in that locker room, and there's a constant
Speaker 1: evaluation process that will begin as soon as you step
Speaker 1: foot in this building. And for the vast majority of us,
Speaker 1: you are surviving each and every year to keep your job.
Speaker 1: And don't think for a second that the new coaches,
Speaker 1: the new decision makers aren't looking at those players on
Speaker 1: the field and trying to make an assessment. It's the
Speaker 1: first time they're seeing them in person out on that
Speaker 1: practice field. Drew told a story when he was first
Speaker 1: into the league, and Wolf, you remember, if you had
Speaker 1: a new coach and you had one of these off
Speaker 1: season in mini camps, it might as well be training
Speaker 1: camp because everybody on that field's trying to show the
Speaker 1: new coach I'm worthy is sticking and staying on this team.
Speaker 1: And I think first and foremost guys would be Isaiah Simmons.
Speaker 1: What exactly is his future? Does he have something to show?
Speaker 1: Wolf in your estimation? Can he show anything in the
Speaker 1: month of April. Have they already looked at the film
Speaker 1: and made their decision on his future because the decision
Speaker 1: is due by May second? Yeah, I know that is
Speaker 1: That is great? Kay, It's a great question right there, POULI.
Speaker 1: I don't know how to answer that. I do know
Speaker 1: this right now. It depends what their culture is. I
Speaker 1: know that Jonathan Gannon has got a belief as to
Speaker 1: what kind of team he wants to have and what
Speaker 1: kind of player he wants walking around that locker room,
Speaker 1: walking around the facility, building the weight room, modeling that
Speaker 1: kind of culture. I know he's got that in his mind.
Speaker 1: I would boy, I would want to talk to Isaiah Simmons.
Speaker 1: I would want to sit down with Isaiah Simmons. I
Speaker 1: would want to watch him work. I would want him.
Speaker 1: I would want to see him in the strength and
Speaker 1: conditioning programs and maybe in a meeting room, and how
Speaker 1: he goes about his business and whether or not he's
Speaker 1: actually watching the tape and understanding our offense and our terminology.
Speaker 1: I would want all of that exposure to him before
Speaker 1: you made your mind up as to what you were
Speaker 1: going to do. On that May second date, you can
Speaker 1: get a conversation and potentially, although for me, there was
Speaker 1: two things here. First of all, at the owner's meeting,
Speaker 1: Jonathan Gannon didn't get specific, but when he did talk
Speaker 1: about Isaiah Simmons getting good news on his health, he
Speaker 1: tapped his shoulder. Isaiah Simmons did seem to hurt his
Speaker 1: shoulder in the season finale last year. So my question
Speaker 1: is maybe good good news is good news, but we
Speaker 1: don't even know if he's gonna be able to do
Speaker 1: anything on the field at the end of April, and
Speaker 1: even if he is, I'm not one hundred percent sold
Speaker 1: that you're going to be able to see anything in
Speaker 1: that short amount of time to let you make a
Speaker 1: decision on that. I mean, I think you're gonna have
Speaker 1: to make this decision on the option or the fifth
Speaker 1: year option completely based on tape, That's my guess, and
Speaker 1: a conversation or two. Yes, true. But but in terms
Speaker 1: of the football part of it, I don't I don't
Speaker 1: think you're going to get anything worth making a complete
Speaker 1: choice on the option. You know what, though, do I
Speaker 1: think honestly, you're going to give him the ability to
Speaker 1: actually show you he understands the game of football as well? Right,
Speaker 1: You're you're going to be I mean, if you talk
Speaker 1: to him, yeah, yeah, oh no, I I again, you
Speaker 1: can have a conversation, but yeah, that's an eleven million
Speaker 1: dollar conversation. I know. Well, how long are you're going
Speaker 1: to talk to him to decide that you want to
Speaker 1: give him eleven or twelve million dollars? Yeah? No, that
Speaker 1: would be a pretty intense conversation. Role. Yeah, but I
Speaker 1: think you also have to understand just what kind of
Speaker 1: football player, what kind of mentality is sitting in front
Speaker 1: of you right now? Do you think he could actually
Speaker 1: play at the edge? Do you think where where do
Speaker 1: you where? Do you project him playing in your defense?
Speaker 1: What is his comprehension level of your defense and whether
Speaker 1: or not I think they're gonna want to talk to him.
Speaker 1: Your point is well taken, there's no doubt about that.
Speaker 1: I could see them passing on the May second and
Speaker 1: just saying prove it, and guys, can I just tell
Speaker 1: you this right now? There's a little piece of me
Speaker 1: that wants to see how Isaiah Simmons would respond to
Speaker 1: that happening to where they don't pick up his fifth
Speaker 1: year option and they say, you know what, this is
Speaker 1: why we're not Isaiah, prove us wrong. I would love
Speaker 1: to see it, you know, Darren, You've asked several questions
Speaker 1: about Isaiah Simmons, not a lot answers. Last month, they
Speaker 1: asked Jonathan Ain and have you decided which position group
Speaker 1: he's going to be with because he spent all of
Speaker 1: last season starting January of twenty two in the safety's room,
Speaker 1: right They said, No, that yet to be determined or
Speaker 1: at least announced. Do you think there'll be enough going
Speaker 1: on in the field to find enough for us to
Speaker 1: tell and discern what they think of Isaiah Simmons? Is
Speaker 1: he a defensive back? Is he a linebacker? Is he
Speaker 1: and edge player? Are we going to get an answer
Speaker 1: to that just visually out at some of these because
Speaker 1: it's amazing. Kyle Bannabosh I asked him in a recent
Speaker 1: edition of The Red Sea Report, a guy who played
Speaker 1: the edge position at a very eye level, do you
Speaker 1: think that Isaiah Simmons has it in him? And he
Speaker 1: said absolutely as the ability to play the edge. But Wolf,
Speaker 1: we've asked other guys who played the position and they're
Speaker 1: dubious that he can make that conversion to an edge guy.
Speaker 1: So I don't know if we're going to own anything
Speaker 1: more in the month April. I guess it's my question.
Speaker 1: That's why I want to talk to him and see
Speaker 1: what kind of mentality. He has. By the way, did
Speaker 1: you see that Sean Payton and what he said about
Speaker 1: Denver and what they're gonna do starting effective immediately. The
Speaker 1: last year the Broncos didn't run a very competitive training camp.
Speaker 1: They weren't a very good physical shape. He said, they
Speaker 1: didn't have much nine on seven or one on one drill.
Speaker 1: Sean Payton is going to institute all of the above.
Speaker 1: Why do I think Jonathan Gannon might do the same
Speaker 1: with the Arizona Cardinals. We continue with a big red
Speaker 1: Rage present him by Santan Ford in Gilbert back to
Speaker 1: Pasco's Dalton on first down fires over the middle, the
Speaker 1: ball is tipped into the air and picked off of
Speaker 1: the thirty yard line. Running left and the money Marco
Speaker 1: Wilson to the ten the high steps and that he
Speaker 1: does a flip into the ends ope of the tockdown.
Speaker 1: Marco Wilson with a pick sick and the Cardinals take
Speaker 1: the lane twenty to fourteen. Boy, did you see Marco
Speaker 1: Wilson elevate on that dude pad touchdown flip. What was
Speaker 1: kind of funny is they're showing the camera angle of
Speaker 1: Andy Dalton being upset and in the background you can
Speaker 1: see Wilson launching into the air like it's just part
Speaker 1: of the background. It looks quite humorous. Passion wolf on
Speaker 1: the Arizona Cardinals radio network, and it was instantaneous, just
Speaker 1: the meme, just the viral video of Andy Dalton the
Speaker 1: io and in the background there's an airborne Marco Wilson
Speaker 1: doing a full front flip. Just unbelievable. Athletics's him as
Speaker 1: he punctuated the pick six. Honestly, guys, Darren urban Ron Wolfley,
Speaker 1: yours truly Paul Kelveys here in the Big Red Rage
Speaker 1: presented by santan Ford and Gilbert. Probably the thing that instantaneously,
Speaker 1: if anything from last season brings a smile out of
Speaker 1: my face, it might be that moment right there, just
Speaker 1: Marco Wilson and the way he punctuated it, Yeah, Paul,
Speaker 1: especially the meme that came out right and how popular
Speaker 1: that meme wasn't How great that was, Like, that was incredible?
Speaker 1: All right. So Marco Wilson is among the cornerbacks still
Speaker 1: standing still on the roster. Antonio Hamilton is in that
Speaker 1: cornerback room as we speak, and one year deal. He
Speaker 1: just did. Christian Matthew, the seventh round rookie from last year,
Speaker 1: Nate Harrison, right, Rashad Fenton who was added from the
Speaker 1: Kansas City Chiefs most recently. He has a ring. But
Speaker 1: in terms of being a need, I mean, this isn't
Speaker 1: a want, Ron Wolfley, this is a need still in
Speaker 1: the offseason, is it? Not? Cornerback? Yeah, Polly, there's no
Speaker 1: doubt about a cornerback. And unfortunately in the National Football
Speaker 1: League it's a need to pick area. There are a
Speaker 1: lot of teams out there that are looking for corners.
Speaker 1: Of course, one good thing is Marco Wilson. I think
Speaker 1: Marco Wilson had an excellent season last year. I'm looking
Speaker 1: for Marco Wilson to take that next step forward here
Speaker 1: in his development as an NFL corner. Right now. I
Speaker 1: think there's no denying the fact that he's got all
Speaker 1: the talent you could possibly want. He's got the athleticism,
Speaker 1: he's got the skills. He's played very, very good. He
Speaker 1: just needs to be more consistent from game to game,
Speaker 1: and I would say month to month. You know, a
Speaker 1: lot of these players, rookies especially take that big jump
Speaker 1: from year one to year two. I wouldn't be shocked
Speaker 1: Aarren Urman if Marco Wilson took a big jump from
Speaker 1: year two to year three, because he started almost an
Speaker 1: entire rookie year, and he admittedly said that, you know what,
Speaker 1: he kind of thought he arrived, and he made that
Speaker 1: comment a couple of times in a couple of honest moments,
Speaker 1: and he had sort of a slow start to last season,
Speaker 1: came on in the second half. I think it continues
Speaker 1: in year three. I think that's the bet that the
Speaker 1: Cardinals are making in part um. I mean, they've always
Speaker 1: been high on what Marco Wilson could be. They felt
Speaker 1: like they got a steal in the fourth round when
Speaker 1: they got them. The measurables are elite, and I do
Speaker 1: think there was a little bit of growing up that
Speaker 1: had to do with that when Marco Wilson and that
Speaker 1: that happens. You know, it's funny when guys get on
Speaker 1: the field. And I'm sure Wolf knows all about this,
Speaker 1: um although I don't really remember what his rookie year
Speaker 1: was like, but I mean when you when when you
Speaker 1: put a guy out there, and everybody always gets upset
Speaker 1: when these draft picks come in and they don't start
Speaker 1: right away. And one of the things that coaches always says, well,
Speaker 1: they got to be able to earn it. And people
Speaker 1: get frustrated while you're picking this guy, why isn't he
Speaker 1: Why isn't he in the lineup? Well, this is why,
Speaker 1: because when for whatever reason, they do end up having
Speaker 1: to start, there's that chance that they didn't really have
Speaker 1: to earn it, and then they feel like they don't
Speaker 1: have to put in the work and they feel like
Speaker 1: they've arrived. And that's what coaches are trying to avoid.
Speaker 1: And I you know, there's a learning curve for everybody,
Speaker 1: and I think Marco Wilson has negotiated it pretty well
Speaker 1: these first two years. And I do think, I mean,
Speaker 1: it's crucial that he's well, I mean, he's gonna be
Speaker 1: a starter. I don't care if you end up picking
Speaker 1: a cornerback in the first round or you find a
Speaker 1: decent veteran. He's gonna be one of your starters. You
Speaker 1: need him to play well. Look, the ideal scenario was
Speaker 1: Antonio Hamilton is cornerback three or maybe even cornerback four.
Speaker 1: That that's how and especially in the absence of a
Speaker 1: Byron Murphy who didn't play a lot of last season,
Speaker 1: especially the second half of last season, you got to
Speaker 1: figure this out. So okay, Yeah, Marco Wilson, who was
Speaker 1: rookie year, beat out Malcolm Butler once again. He has
Speaker 1: all the talent in the world. The good news for
Speaker 1: the Cardinals is this is a very deep cornerback class historically.
Speaker 1: In fact, I read earlier today Wolf that they think
Speaker 1: that there are cornerbacks was starter traits going into Day
Speaker 1: three of this draft. Wow, that's how deep this is.
Speaker 1: And if, for example, the Cardinals do trade out at
Speaker 1: number three and they end up around seven. If they
Speaker 1: end up at a number eleven from Tennessee, I would
Speaker 1: not be shocked if they went cornerback with their first
Speaker 1: pick in this draft. That's how good some of these
Speaker 1: guys are. You know what's so cool about that, Polly too.
Speaker 1: If there's one position where a dude can come in
Speaker 1: and make an impact on the defensive side of the ball,
Speaker 1: it's at corner. It really is, especially if you're a
Speaker 1: big man team. And that's something we're gonna have to
Speaker 1: wait and see about Jag and what kind of defense
Speaker 1: he actually wants to put together here, right But you know,
Speaker 1: I mean, if you're a big man team, you can
Speaker 1: have a corner come in and say, Okay, I've got
Speaker 1: that guy, I'm gonna line up over this guy, and
Speaker 1: I've got man coverage, and that raw athleticism can really
Speaker 1: take over right there. If you're gonna play a ton
Speaker 1: of zone. It takes a little nuance to play in
Speaker 1: that zone room for a lot of these young guys
Speaker 1: coming in, especially in college, because they're playing so much
Speaker 1: man at the college level right there. But the good
Speaker 1: news is this that secondary over overall is really really
Speaker 1: strong because of the safeties you have back there. I'll
Speaker 1: be curious to know about the man versus his own
Speaker 1: thing because one of the things Jonathan Gannon talked about
Speaker 1: with his defense at the owner's meetings, and he's kind
Speaker 1: of intimated this before, but he's like, one of the
Speaker 1: things we want to do is we want to get turnovers. Okay,
Speaker 1: everybody says that, and we want to make sure they
Speaker 1: don't throw the ball over our head. And when I
Speaker 1: hear they don't they don't throw the ball over our head,
Speaker 1: that that tells me you're you're gonna lean more towards
Speaker 1: zone stuff than really manning up a lot shell cover
Speaker 1: two like so many teams like to play these days.
Speaker 1: We'll see it's it's hard to really get a good
Speaker 1: sense because when you do ask Jonathan Gannon what they're
Speaker 1: gonna do, it's it's pretty much vague, well in a
Speaker 1: lot of its space, and if it should be, I
Speaker 1: might add Derby and his default setting is always going
Speaker 1: to be we're gonna play what serves our roster best. Yes,
Speaker 1: but dude, the corner back equation, I think there's some
Speaker 1: sense to that in that advance. Joseph, for example, would
Speaker 1: have loved to have manned up his two corners on
Speaker 1: an island and dialed up the other nine. He just
Speaker 1: didn't necessarily have the personnel all the time, didn't have
Speaker 1: those elite cover corners all the time where he could
Speaker 1: execute that sort of game plan. But if you end
Speaker 1: up with Illinois, Devin Witherspooner ran a four four two
Speaker 1: today right in a private workout, who was a ridiculous
Speaker 1: shutdown corner. A year ago for the Elini he had
Speaker 1: an opponent passer rating of twenty nine point three, and
Speaker 1: that was the lowest in D one by a wide margin.
Speaker 1: You get Christian Gonzalez out of Oregon wolf six one
Speaker 1: and a half right, four three eight forty, Joey Porter Junior, yes,
Speaker 1: son of the former cardinal six two and a half
Speaker 1: one ninety three corner out a Penn State who runs
Speaker 1: a four four five. I mean there are guys, you know,
Speaker 1: even DJ Turner out of Michigan, who surprised everyone ran
Speaker 1: in the four two six. There are elite corners all
Speaker 1: the way. Look top around two for example, Cardinals top
Speaker 1: around two. If they go corner, absolutely that's a slam. Yeah, no, Polly,
Speaker 1: I think you're right about that. Also to you gotta
Speaker 1: remember Jonathan Gannon. There were a lot of Philadelphia Eagle
Speaker 1: fans that wanted him to bring more. People wanted him
Speaker 1: to bring five and six and go after a quarterback,
Speaker 1: and that was not what JG was doing in Philadelphia.
Speaker 1: And there's no doubt about it that secondary, especially your
Speaker 1: cornerback room, can get a whole lot better if you
Speaker 1: can actually get pressure on the quarterback, which once again
Speaker 1: brings us all the way back to our guy, Will Anderson.
Speaker 1: And if you'd like to take Will Anderson at number three,
Speaker 1: oh no, even better, moved back to number four. Let
Speaker 1: the Colts draft their quarterback. You moved back to number
Speaker 1: four and draft Will Anderson at number four. We've got
Speaker 1: a winner, ladies and gentlemen. Well, as Kyle Vanibosch told us,
Speaker 1: you can pick the best corners in the world, but
Speaker 1: if you don't have a pass rush, they can only
Speaker 1: cover for so long exactly, so it always starts with
Speaker 1: the pass rush. By the way, speaking of strong draft
Speaker 1: classes in twenty twenty three, and Jonathan Gannon wasn't a wolf.
Speaker 1: He answered you when you asked him about the fullback
Speaker 1: when he was first hired, right, And his answer was
Speaker 1: he laughed. He said, well, I'll say this, we want
Speaker 1: to live in eleven, twelve, and thirteen personnel. And remember
Speaker 1: he said that, yes, the Cardinals need tight ends. Hello,
Speaker 1: And this is a very strong draft for tight ends
Speaker 1: as well. Historically, over the first hundred picks, usually an
Speaker 1: average of four tight ends are taken. This year they
Speaker 1: said there could be as many as eight, two times
Speaker 1: the norm. That's how deep it is a tight end Arren.
Speaker 1: I mean, I think I think there's a chance that
Speaker 1: they could take a tight end late. If you're paying
Speaker 1: zach Ertz what you're paying them, and you just took
Speaker 1: Trade and Bride in the second round, I don't see
Speaker 1: how that's going to be a major priority at this point.
Speaker 1: That's how I see it. You need a number, But
Speaker 1: if zach Ertz is healthy, you've got your top two
Speaker 1: tight ends already. Here's the one thing about that, though, Guys, Honestly,
Speaker 1: if you're gonna go with a lot of eleven personnel,
Speaker 1: and by the way, that's what the Philadelphia Eagles did.
Speaker 1: They went with a lot of eleven personnel, one back,
Speaker 1: one tight end. Man, if you want to be as
Speaker 1: balanced as the Eagles were, you gotta be able to
Speaker 1: run the ball and if you're going to run the ball,
Speaker 1: that means that tight end in eleven personnel, you better
Speaker 1: be able to kick somebody's face at the point of attack.
Speaker 1: And I don't know if you look at zach Ertz
Speaker 1: at this point of his career, even Trade McBride, if
Speaker 1: they got that guy, Hey, maybe you're both right to
Speaker 1: Darren's point, they go day three for a tight end.
Speaker 1: But it's a blocking tight end, yes, which would still
Speaker 1: be on the board day three. So maybe that's the
Speaker 1: way it plays out. We'll see. Hey. Join the season
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Speaker 1: to Hill hands it off Ingram running right, get in
Speaker 1: the backfield and down he goes Roschard. Lawrence was in
Speaker 1: their first good job of the Cardinals at the point
Speaker 1: of attack, that is where Shard Lawrence right there. And
Speaker 1: what he does man third and two on the seven
Speaker 1: and they run Walker up the middle east hit and
Speaker 1: he's dropped back at the ten yard line where Shard Lawrence. Wow,
Speaker 1: he makes a difference, David, he does. He shows up
Speaker 1: with third rush defense on the inside. He settled in.
Speaker 1: Is an excellent nose tackle, no question about that. When
Speaker 1: he's on the field, he is a difference maker. You
Speaker 1: guys know when you stand on the Cardinals practice field
Speaker 1: during camp, Guys who played the defensive line position the
Speaker 1: immediately site is get off. Just is burst the way
Speaker 1: he's being able to penetrate and get up field instantly.
Speaker 1: Just Kenny, stay on the field. And if you're looking
Speaker 1: for maybe a precedent for Rochard Lawrence, how about, Oh,
Speaker 1: I don't know. Is Zach Allen who dealt with a
Speaker 1: lot of injuries his first few years in the league,
Speaker 1: then had a breakout season this past campaign. Maybe just
Speaker 1: maybe best case scenario, Chard Lawrence is that guy. Twenty
Speaker 1: twenty three. As we wrap up this addition to the
Speaker 1: Big Red Rage presented by santan Ford and Gilbert, we
Speaker 1: are santan Ford, Paul KELVC, Darren Urber, and Aron Wolfley
Speaker 1: and wolf in terms of importance. Right We've talked about
Speaker 1: the Cardinals and Will Anderson as a pass rusher, that
Speaker 1: edge guy. Well, what about the interior D line? It
Speaker 1: just defensive line depth in general. Where do you rate
Speaker 1: that as a priority for Manias and Ford? Yeah, play,
Speaker 1: I think it's huge, it really is. This is something
Speaker 1: we all were talking about in regard to rebuilding this
Speaker 1: roster and the fact that that rebuilding of the roster
Speaker 1: was going to start on the line of scrimmage, the
Speaker 1: offensive line, of course, and the defensive line. And we've
Speaker 1: seen the Arizona Cardinals go out in address those two
Speaker 1: areas right there. I think of Will Hernandez of course,
Speaker 1: and Calvin Beecham those signings right now. You know how
Speaker 1: much I love those two guys and love those signings
Speaker 1: right there from the Arizona Cardinals because it speaks to
Speaker 1: the physicality of the offense that I think they want
Speaker 1: to be able to run. Well, you got to carry
Speaker 1: that over to the defensive side of the ball as well.
Speaker 1: They got a bunch of guys right now that have
Speaker 1: played in the NFL, A bunch of guys that aren't
Speaker 1: going to the Pro Bowl, but a bunch of guys
Speaker 1: that could be glue guys. Hopefully they're going to continue
Speaker 1: to compete once they get that opportunity on the football field,
Speaker 1: and to me, I think they'd love to improve with
Speaker 1: a little Jalen Carter. Is that a possibility if they
Speaker 1: moved down, if they were to trade with the Tennessee
Speaker 1: Titans and move back, Maybe Jalen Carter falls that much,
Speaker 1: Maybe he doesn't. Maybe the Seahawks stakem at five. I
Speaker 1: don't know, but at some point in time, you need
Speaker 1: to address the defensive line, and I think they'd love
Speaker 1: to be able to do that if they could. You
Speaker 1: had an interview acy cardinals dot com Darren where you
Speaker 1: talk to a guy former first round pick of the Seahawks.
Speaker 1: Here was his quote after signing with the Cardinals. I
Speaker 1: get to see the Seahawks two times a year, and
Speaker 1: I'm excited about that. It's a fresh opportunity. I appreciate
Speaker 1: these guys taking the chance on me. They could have
Speaker 1: gotten anybody and they went with me. I'm going to
Speaker 1: make sure they don't regret that. Give mean what the
Speaker 1: sense was when LJ. Colliers said that to you? Oh,
Speaker 1: I you know, I think he's very I mean, here's
Speaker 1: a guy who, again a first round pick, didn't quite
Speaker 1: pan out in Seattle in his four years, missed a
Speaker 1: little time with injury, was inactive a few times, wasn't
Speaker 1: hugely productive. And I think he very well knows that
Speaker 1: he wasn't hugely productive. And I'm sure that came up
Speaker 1: when they didn't pick up his fifth round a fifth
Speaker 1: year option and let him walk after his fourth year.
Speaker 1: So I think he's again aware that he's got some
Speaker 1: things to prove, and he says he's going to do
Speaker 1: that now, saying it when you're signing and doing it
Speaker 1: on the field or two different things. But if you're
Speaker 1: talking about wanting somebody who's motivated, and in fact, one
Speaker 1: of the quotes he had in there, or one of
Speaker 1: the parts of the quote was one of the reasons
Speaker 1: he wants to do well is so he can make
Speaker 1: more money, which I don't have a problem with happening
Speaker 1: a motivational fact, and he's not. He didn't sign for
Speaker 1: a ton of money here, so if he has a
Speaker 1: big year, then he's gonna make money. And guess what
Speaker 1: a one year contract should be motivating? Yeah, because it's
Speaker 1: now or never. As far as that goes. How about
Speaker 1: a Carlos Watkins who just signed over from the Cowboys.
Speaker 1: I bring that up because we're talking sixty nine career games,
Speaker 1: thirty six starts, world five career sacks. But it's amazing
Speaker 1: the blowback from all of the Cowboys fans that they're
Speaker 1: really disappointed he moved on. And we know the Cowboys
Speaker 1: are loaded along that defensive line. So slowly but surely,
Speaker 1: Mania support has built some depth along this defensive line.
Speaker 1: They have about ten guys right now in that room.
Speaker 1: And seemingly at the start of the year, after Zach
Speaker 1: Allen took off and JJ Watton retired, you're like, man, okay,
Speaker 1: who's left? Yeah, No, you're right about that, Pauli once
Speaker 1: again too, And I see a lot of guys that
Speaker 1: are pros, you know. I see a lot of guys
Speaker 1: that are gonna compete on the line of image. We'll
Speaker 1: see how it goes. But I think one of the
Speaker 1: strategies here from Jonathan Gannon and the coaching staff is
Speaker 1: to raise the floor. But you've heard me talk about this, Paulie,
Speaker 1: raise the floor and the talent level of the floor
Speaker 1: on this roster, as opposed to raising the ceiling and
Speaker 1: not having a good base, a good foundation. That's what's
Speaker 1: going to be really interesting to me as well to
Speaker 1: watch to see if they can do that. And it
Speaker 1: looks like to me on the defensive line, that has
Speaker 1: been the strategy right now. Go out and get guys
Speaker 1: that have played games in the National Football League, Go
Speaker 1: out and get guys that have started games in the
Speaker 1: National Football League, and try to build that floor and
Speaker 1: raise that floor up on that talent level on the
Speaker 1: d line. And guess what if accountability was an issue
Speaker 1: last year and complacency went along with that, Almost every
Speaker 1: guy in that defensive line room is on a one
Speaker 1: year deal or in a proven year, every single guy.
Speaker 1: So you got to figure the hunger is going to
Speaker 1: be there, the competitive competitiveness is going to be there.
Speaker 1: And Darren, we've talked about this on Cardinals Underground the podcast.
Speaker 1: I think every bit of building this team and rebuilding
Speaker 1: this roster is instilling a mindset as much as it
Speaker 1: is a skill set. I would agree with that. And
Speaker 1: the thing is is when you have all these guys,
Speaker 1: I mean they've they've signed a bunch of free agents,
Speaker 1: a lot of names, just a bunch of names, not
Speaker 1: just on the defensive line, but always. But like, there's
Speaker 1: no guarantee that any of these guys make the final roster.
Speaker 1: Nobody's signing a contract in such a way that yeah,
Speaker 1: oh yeah, he's absolutely going to be here. Maybe maybe
Speaker 1: Kizer White and maybe Zach Pascal. But the rest of them,
Speaker 1: I'm not one hundred percent. Now they some of them
Speaker 1: are going to have better chances than others. But am
Speaker 1: I going to get shocked if any of these guys
Speaker 1: are on the cuts? And this year they're making it
Speaker 1: so it's there's only one cut down? So what what's
Speaker 1: your reaction, Darren? When I say the name Jalen Carter?
Speaker 1: Is it a possibility for a team that flamed out
Speaker 1: with Robert Kndici arguably the most talented player in that
Speaker 1: draft pound for pound, Albeity went at number twenty nine
Speaker 1: as opposed to a top ten pick. Do you think
Speaker 1: Jayalen Carter is a possibility? We know it's a need
Speaker 1: for the Cardinals of that physic or just period if
Speaker 1: they trade down, I would surmise I don't know. I'll
Speaker 1: be honest, I have not heard a whole lot of
Speaker 1: Jalen Carter around this team, and that doesn't mean anything necessarily,
Speaker 1: but sometimes that can be by design. The player they
Speaker 1: named belie. But but he is a guy who everybody
Speaker 1: keeps saying Will Anderson's motor is unbelievable. You don't hear
Speaker 1: that with Jalen Carter and after And what we've all
Speaker 1: found with defensive lineman is if you don't have somewhat
Speaker 1: of a mom it's very easy not to have a
Speaker 1: motor for a big defensive lineman. And that would that
Speaker 1: would just frighten me as a really high pick. Can
Speaker 1: I throw out Jordan Phillips a couple of years ago? Yeah?
Speaker 1: How frustrating is it to watch a massive defensive lineman
Speaker 1: with all that athleticism mailed in two out of every
Speaker 1: three snaps? Yeah? Yeah, boy, you really have to wonder too,
Speaker 1: Jayalen Carter and you know, okay, he was he was
Speaker 1: a guy that a lot of people were saying could
Speaker 1: be the first player taken in the draft. Um, that
Speaker 1: is not probably going to be the case, as we
Speaker 1: all know, it's going to be a quarterback. But can
Speaker 1: you imagine the Raiders sitting there at seven? Guys? Could
Speaker 1: Jail and Carter be there at seven? If the Cardinals
Speaker 1: were to trade to the Raiders and let the Raiders
Speaker 1: come up and get a little Anthony Richardson maybe at
Speaker 1: number three, and then all of a sudden you go
Speaker 1: back to number seven. Yeah, I could see that being impossibility.
Speaker 1: Maybe maybe depending on how far he falls, even with
Speaker 1: Tennessee at eleven. And look a lot of a lot
Speaker 1: of these mock drafts right now have the Bears in
Speaker 1: number nine taking a jail and carter. So we'll see,
Speaker 1: you know, you know he's not taking any visits with
Speaker 1: teams outside the top ten confident, Yeah, which rules out,
Speaker 1: which might rule out a lot of teams trading into
Speaker 1: the top ten to pick him. That's where the mistake
Speaker 1: might be by Drew Rosenhaus, his agent. All I know
Speaker 1: is when I watched that pro day and he's completely
Speaker 1: out of shape and not finishing drills, how can that
Speaker 1: not be a red flag? Ron Wolfley, how can that?
Speaker 1: It's got to be? It is. It is a red
Speaker 1: flag right now. You have to wonder was he thinking
Speaker 1: too much about his his incident, his accidents and what happened,
Speaker 1: And you know, I don't care at that point in time.
Speaker 1: That is a massive red flag, at least it is
Speaker 1: to me Hey. Season six, Episode two of Cardinals Flight
Speaker 1: Plans streaming right now via the Cardinals YouTube page at
Speaker 1: YouTube dot com. Slash Acy Cardinals. By the way, news today,
Speaker 1: we have another player who is going to wear number zero.
Speaker 1: It's Marvin Jones of Alliance. So that makes five. Oh
Speaker 1: I got one more? Oh you do? Yeah, breaking news,
Speaker 1: Zach Pascal. Oh oh, I did not know that. Wow,
Speaker 1: it was worth the weight here on the Big Red Ring.
Speaker 1: Here you go. Although that ruins my plan of giving
Speaker 1: Will Anderson zero, letting them wear number zero off the
Speaker 1: edge for the next decade. I don't know. We don't
Speaker 1: want to wear a zero ball? Why not? Cause Paul
Speaker 1: we have Bell talk double zero like Jim Otto. All Right,
Speaker 1: that'll do it, Darren Darman, Ron Wolfley, Jim I'm under
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