WEBVTT - Big Red Rage - Depth Charge 0:00:02.320 --> 0:00:05.360 Strap on the boots and scrape up the knuckles. Oh 0:00:05.360 --> 0:00:09.240 and ahead, he got jacked. This is the Big Red Rain, 0:00:10.200 --> 0:00:14.400 presented by satan Ford in Gilbert. Mary's Gonna score touchdown 0:00:14.600 --> 0:00:17.480 Slam to the ground by Buddha Baker Like a torpedo. 0:00:17.600 --> 0:00:23.079 He came flying into the backfield. The rage is brought 0:00:23.120 --> 0:00:27.920 to you by satan Ford in Gilbert. Are you Santanford? 0:00:28.520 --> 0:00:31.680 State Farm? Talk to an agent today at eight hundred 0:00:31.760 --> 0:00:37.400 State Farm, And by Arizona Cardinals Podcasts visit acy Cardinals 0:00:37.440 --> 0:00:46.199 dot Com, Slash Podcasts, The Reds, Rising Guard, temperatureizing vision, flurring, 0:00:46.520 --> 0:00:50.640 rage taking over. Here's Paul Calveci. I'm ready. I'm one 0:00:50.680 --> 0:00:54.320 hundred percent ready. I'm telling you I'm ready. And Ron Wolflee, 0:00:54.480 --> 0:00:59.000 it doesn't get any better than that. Unleash the far 0:01:01.120 --> 0:01:05.600 three weeks in a day away from NFL Draft two 0:01:05.920 --> 0:01:10.480 twenty three, and Ron Wolfley just let the insanity wash 0:01:10.560 --> 0:01:14.360 over you. I mean, this week alone, we've already heard 0:01:14.400 --> 0:01:19.880 that Houston might take will Anderson number two. Overall. They 0:01:19.959 --> 0:01:23.200 might do it. They might. They're just crazy enough they 0:01:23.319 --> 0:01:26.240 might do it. An anonymous league personnel man tells Peter 0:01:26.319 --> 0:01:30.040 King the Titans are exploring the possibility of trading up 0:01:30.040 --> 0:01:35.600 to number three. Hello, Monty, the Raiders are taking Bryce 0:01:35.720 --> 0:01:39.800 Young to dinner this week. Why when they picked number seven? 0:01:40.760 --> 0:01:47.000 The Cardinals supposedly, reportedly allegedly might just release DeAndre Hopkins. 0:01:47.040 --> 0:01:50.320 Somebody sound the light detector on that one. And my favorite, 0:01:50.440 --> 0:01:54.080 Ron Wolflee, are the reports out there, the anecdotal evidence 0:01:54.120 --> 0:01:58.680 that Jets fans are already booking flights and hotels for 0:01:58.920 --> 0:02:05.559 Vegas for Super Bowl fifty eight, February twenty twenty four. 0:02:06.680 --> 0:02:10.360 And with that, welcome into the Big Red Rage present Avice, 0:02:10.440 --> 0:02:13.840 santan Ford and Gilbert We are santan Ford, Paul Calvc here, 0:02:14.080 --> 0:02:18.400 Ron Wolfley right there, Polly, I everything you just said 0:02:18.520 --> 0:02:20.720 right there, I thought of one thing, and that one 0:02:20.760 --> 0:02:25.240 thing is tis the season? Is it not? Yes? Draft 0:02:25.760 --> 0:02:31.480 supterfuge here it comes coming your way. Believe nobody, Polly, 0:02:31.520 --> 0:02:34.280 at this point in time, that is true. In fact, 0:02:34.280 --> 0:02:36.120 you know what, let's just get enrolled right now. We 0:02:36.240 --> 0:02:39.639 got Albert Brier, who, from some reason, I don't know 0:02:39.639 --> 0:02:43.600 if Albert Brier if he's on some sort of mission 0:02:43.800 --> 0:02:47.120 to drive down the value of DeAndre Hopkins. A week 0:02:47.160 --> 0:02:50.120 ago he came out and said, Oh, DeAndre Hopkins a 0:02:50.280 --> 0:02:52.520 league personnel. People are telling me that he might not 0:02:52.520 --> 0:02:55.000 command much more than Brandon Cook's a fifth rounder, a 0:02:55.040 --> 0:02:59.119 sixth rounder. Now this week, here's what Albert Brier says 0:02:59.160 --> 0:03:02.000 about de hops You're in the easy. Some teams they're 0:03:02.000 --> 0:03:03.680 gonna cut him. I think the Cardinals are gonna wind 0:03:03.760 --> 0:03:06.560 him cutting him. His market is not great right now. 0:03:06.960 --> 0:03:10.200 And even for teams like say like Kansas City, like 0:03:10.320 --> 0:03:13.040 Kansas City would need him to take a significant piggy. 0:03:13.160 --> 0:03:15.440 He'd have to be like take the Smith Schuster deal 0:03:15.480 --> 0:03:19.240 from U, right, right, right, So I clearly there's nobody 0:03:19.280 --> 0:03:21.919 that was willing to take on the contract and pay 0:03:21.960 --> 0:03:25.840 the Cardinals initial price. Your reaction to that, you know, Bully, 0:03:25.919 --> 0:03:27.760 the first thing I thought of is does he know 0:03:28.000 --> 0:03:32.240 Monnie Asenford? Does he know Monnie Assenford. And the reason 0:03:32.280 --> 0:03:34.520 why I say that, Paully, is because do you remember 0:03:34.600 --> 0:03:38.640 the Rodney Hudson situation. Do you remember what the Raiders did? 0:03:39.120 --> 0:03:42.480 Think of what the Raiders did? Remember that story came 0:03:42.520 --> 0:03:46.600 down that the Raiders were gonna cut Rodney Hudson. That's right, 0:03:47.040 --> 0:03:49.800 all we were all shocked. What are you talking about? 0:03:49.840 --> 0:03:53.320 They're gonna cut Rodney Hudson. I think they did this. 0:03:53.320 --> 0:03:55.640 This is what I believe. I think they let that 0:03:55.800 --> 0:03:59.360 story out. They leaked that story the Raiders themselves because 0:03:59.400 --> 0:04:02.640 they wanted every GM in the league. You go, WHOA, 0:04:02.680 --> 0:04:05.120 what do you mean you're gonna cut him? We don't 0:04:05.160 --> 0:04:07.440 need We don't want you to know, don't do that. 0:04:07.640 --> 0:04:09.800 What if I give you a fourth round pick for him? 0:04:09.840 --> 0:04:11.440 What if I give you a fit? What if I 0:04:11.480 --> 0:04:14.840 give you a third round pick for Rodney Hudson. We 0:04:14.920 --> 0:04:18.080 don't want you to cut him because he's gonna clear 0:04:18.080 --> 0:04:20.960 waivers with his contract and then he's going to become 0:04:21.000 --> 0:04:24.159 a free agent. And if that means we're gonna have 0:04:24.240 --> 0:04:28.080 to bid against other teams for that guy's services, Paulie, 0:04:28.960 --> 0:04:34.040 this makes me think maybe Monni Asinforten Arizona Cardinals is impossible. 0:04:34.160 --> 0:04:37.039 They're leaking this story out there to let it be known. Hey, listen, 0:04:37.080 --> 0:04:40.680 if you're thinking about DeAndre Hopkins at all, you know what, 0:04:41.600 --> 0:04:44.640 you might want to be able to negotiate with him 0:04:44.640 --> 0:04:48.040 on a one on one basis as opposed to a 0:04:48.120 --> 0:04:50.920 free agent. You know what makes sense, paul You know what, 0:04:51.200 --> 0:04:54.039 It's just as plausible as anything else that's being thrown 0:04:54.080 --> 0:04:55.880 out there. In fact, I think there's a lot more 0:04:55.920 --> 0:04:58.880 thought behind your rationale, in your theory than maybe some 0:04:58.920 --> 0:05:01.520 of the other stuff that is out there. Reports have 0:05:01.640 --> 0:05:04.960 said the Cardinals gave Team d hop DeAndre Hopkins and 0:05:05.000 --> 0:05:08.000 his new agent the ability to talk to other teams 0:05:08.040 --> 0:05:12.960 to explore Paul another contract. So they ask yourself, why 0:05:12.960 --> 0:05:15.800 would they do that. There's a willingness to try a 0:05:16.200 --> 0:05:17.960 team to see if, okay, maybe a deal could be 0:05:17.960 --> 0:05:19.880 had a contracting me. It's sort of like the Sean 0:05:19.920 --> 0:05:22.320 Payton reverse. You go out to negotiate the contract, then 0:05:22.320 --> 0:05:26.240 we'll figure out the value in exactly Paul. That's exactly it. 0:05:26.360 --> 0:05:28.760 And why would a team want to do that? Why? Well, 0:05:28.800 --> 0:05:31.880 because they have a one on one conversation going with 0:05:31.960 --> 0:05:36.640 DeAndre Hopkins as opposed to five other teams that might 0:05:36.680 --> 0:05:40.039 actually be interested in him and driving his price up. 0:05:40.920 --> 0:05:43.239 And when you say other teams, you say five teams, 0:05:43.240 --> 0:05:44.600 And you know what, I think it is five. I 0:05:44.640 --> 0:05:47.359 think it's Kansas City. I think it's New England. I 0:05:47.360 --> 0:05:50.360 think it's Tennessee. I think it's Baltimore, and I think 0:05:50.360 --> 0:05:52.800 it's the Giants. I think those are the five teams, 0:05:52.800 --> 0:05:54.640 And I would say to those five teams, and you 0:05:54.680 --> 0:05:56.479 know what, I'm going to tap the mic just to 0:05:56.520 --> 0:05:58.880 make sure I have their attention. Have you seen this 0:05:58.960 --> 0:06:02.520 year's draft class. It is very shallow draft pool when 0:06:02.560 --> 0:06:05.880 it comes to receiver. All the free agent wide receivers 0:06:05.880 --> 0:06:08.159 have been picked over. And guess what Denver and Sean 0:06:08.240 --> 0:06:10.640 Payton just said. Guess what, We're not trading Jerry Judy 0:06:10.640 --> 0:06:13.960 and Courtland Sutton. They're off the market. So good luck 0:06:13.960 --> 0:06:16.640 with a plug and play wide receiver in this draft. 0:06:17.040 --> 0:06:19.440 When a couple of years ago, remember our stat the 0:06:19.440 --> 0:06:22.960 worst hit rate for any rookie position group in recent 0:06:23.040 --> 0:06:25.760 history and memory in the draft is always wide receiver 0:06:26.200 --> 0:06:30.960 at less than twenty percent, even round one. Guys. There's 0:06:31.000 --> 0:06:33.719 always that learning curve a receiver. So I think the 0:06:33.760 --> 0:06:36.000 Cardinals do have that. That's why Ian Rappaport came out 0:06:36.040 --> 0:06:38.480 and said, quote, I would be surprised if DeAndre Hopkins 0:06:38.600 --> 0:06:41.800 was released. Now, if he's traded, guess what his salary 0:06:41.880 --> 0:06:45.400 will be adjusted? And report Ian Rappaport once again, bully, 0:06:45.520 --> 0:06:48.800 here's your assignment right here. Are you ready for your assignments? 0:06:49.440 --> 0:06:52.800 Is you need to find out if Monti Astenford has 0:06:52.839 --> 0:06:56.880 any type of relationship with Albert Preyer. Okay, you need 0:06:56.920 --> 0:06:59.840 to figure that out, right, there is Astenford kind of 0:07:00.040 --> 0:07:03.080 leaking this stuff to Albert Brier. Bully, that's what you 0:07:03.120 --> 0:07:05.200 got to get to that. Get to the bottom of 0:07:05.200 --> 0:07:08.279 that story and then you'll know what's going on. Because 0:07:08.320 --> 0:07:11.600 with Rodney Hudson, all of a sudden, the Raiders came 0:07:11.600 --> 0:07:13.640 out and let it be known. And it wasn't right 0:07:13.640 --> 0:07:17.000 away they let it be known. No, no, no, we're 0:07:17.040 --> 0:07:19.920 not We're not going to cut Rodney Hudson. And sure enough, 0:07:20.520 --> 0:07:24.120 there it was. The Arizona Cardinals made a deal. I 0:07:24.160 --> 0:07:26.960 think this is a way to get teams lining up 0:07:27.000 --> 0:07:30.160 at the door just to make a phone call, teams 0:07:30.160 --> 0:07:33.480 that may not have actually called the Cardinals yet, just 0:07:33.560 --> 0:07:36.880 saying whoa, well, hey, what will it take for us 0:07:36.920 --> 0:07:39.480 to get them at one on one? What will it take? 0:07:40.040 --> 0:07:42.640 You know? I think this is a way to drum 0:07:42.760 --> 0:07:47.560 up interest and Albert Brier, whether he knows Monty Asenford 0:07:47.640 --> 0:07:50.920 or not, this is actually helping the Arizona Cardinals because 0:07:50.960 --> 0:07:53.880 I think there are teams that would call and say, well, 0:07:54.000 --> 0:07:56.400 before you do that, what would it take? All right, 0:07:56.440 --> 0:07:59.040 So if they're not lining up or DeAndre Hopkins. Are 0:07:59.040 --> 0:08:02.120 they going to be lining Maybe they're already for number 0:08:02.320 --> 0:08:06.640 three overall, and you know our model around here, Azy 0:08:06.920 --> 0:08:09.880 needs three, meaning three quarterbacks. And then guess what the 0:08:09.960 --> 0:08:13.240 sweepstakes are on. Is that third quarterback to go a CJ. 0:08:13.400 --> 0:08:18.040 Stroud and Bryce Young? Could it be Anthony Richardson? Well, 0:08:18.080 --> 0:08:20.400 we asked Drew stant about that this week on the 0:08:20.400 --> 0:08:24.560 Red Sea Report. No, he's not a franchise quarterback for 0:08:24.760 --> 0:08:27.920 multiple reasons. The completion percentage is extremely alarming. That's the 0:08:27.920 --> 0:08:30.240 starting point. The other point that you get to is 0:08:30.440 --> 0:08:33.720 the question marks are too large from the standpoint of 0:08:34.040 --> 0:08:36.880 he's at Florida. You look at his college record of 0:08:36.960 --> 0:08:39.160 what he was able to accomplish, and you couple that 0:08:39.200 --> 0:08:43.080 with the subpar completion percentage. What makes you think that 0:08:43.080 --> 0:08:45.200 when he gets to an NFL team that he's going 0:08:45.240 --> 0:08:46.640 to be able to flip the script and do that. 0:08:46.880 --> 0:08:50.920 It's Trey Lance all over again. Thirteen career college starts, 0:08:51.000 --> 0:08:55.160 Trey Lance, Anthony Richardson, and all the measurables are there, 0:08:55.440 --> 0:08:58.640 all the upside is there. You don't have the production 0:08:59.040 --> 0:09:01.200 or the college film they want to see at the 0:09:01.280 --> 0:09:05.480 NFL level. But Will somebody take a chance, Will somebody 0:09:05.559 --> 0:09:07.880 make the Cardinals an offer they can't refuse? In number 0:09:07.920 --> 0:09:13.840 three for Anthony Richardson, Yes, you think so, Spaly, Oh, 0:09:13.880 --> 0:09:16.280 I don't think there's any doubt about it. I think 0:09:16.360 --> 0:09:19.600 Drew is right. And I said this about Anthony Richardson 0:09:19.720 --> 0:09:23.839 myself that I don't think Anthony Richardson is a first 0:09:23.920 --> 0:09:27.319 round pick. I don't believe that now is his stats, 0:09:27.679 --> 0:09:30.040 there's no doubt about it. In terms of his traits 0:09:30.280 --> 0:09:35.200 and his physical size and athleticism, of course he is. 0:09:35.240 --> 0:09:38.760 He's a first round pick. But if you're talking about quarterback, 0:09:38.840 --> 0:09:40.679 I don't think he's a first round pick. I think 0:09:40.760 --> 0:09:43.880 he's probably a second or a third round pick. But PAULI, 0:09:44.280 --> 0:09:47.280 that's not the way it works in the National Football League. 0:09:47.400 --> 0:09:50.760 History will tell you right now that there are people 0:09:50.920 --> 0:09:55.200 that will come up and believe that Anthony Richardson is 0:09:55.240 --> 0:10:00.120 a franchise quarterback, especially when you talk about today's new 0:10:00.360 --> 0:10:04.360 offense and the new wage offense that is permeated in 0:10:04.400 --> 0:10:07.640 the fact that Jalen Hurts. Of course, just how much 0:10:07.760 --> 0:10:11.800 Jalen Hurts has influenced the rest of the league offensively, 0:10:12.280 --> 0:10:14.200 I think there are a lot of people that believe 0:10:14.280 --> 0:10:19.640 Anthony Richardson is Cam Newton all over again, except a 0:10:19.679 --> 0:10:23.560 better deep ball thrower than Cam Newton. So he's going 0:10:23.600 --> 0:10:25.280 to get a shot. I think there is going to 0:10:25.360 --> 0:10:27.160 be somebody that is going to fall in love with 0:10:27.240 --> 0:10:29.840 Anthony Richardson and they're gonna want to move up to 0:10:29.920 --> 0:10:32.559 number three. And I think that somebody could be the Colts. 0:10:32.720 --> 0:10:35.280 There are reports out there speaking of Jalen Hurts, that 0:10:35.400 --> 0:10:39.600 Shane Steichen, the Colts new head coach, sees Anthony Richardson 0:10:39.679 --> 0:10:45.120 potentially as quote a super charged version of Jalen Hurts, right, 0:10:45.400 --> 0:10:48.000 And the guy who developed Jalen Hurts from the second round, 0:10:48.000 --> 0:10:52.240 pick two, second team All Pro behind Patrick Mahomes could 0:10:52.280 --> 0:10:55.360 be the coach in waiting for an Anthony Richardson. And 0:10:55.440 --> 0:10:57.600 we know Jim Mercy, the owner, has already been on 0:10:57.679 --> 0:11:00.960 record several times. There are three or four quarterbacks in 0:11:01.000 --> 0:11:04.600 this draft. So just maybe, just maybe, the plan we've 0:11:04.600 --> 0:11:06.920 all thought about all along is that Indy comes up 0:11:06.920 --> 0:11:09.080 one to get their guy, in this case Anthony and Richardson, 0:11:09.080 --> 0:11:11.080 and the Cardinals get their guy, Will Anderson and some 0:11:11.160 --> 0:11:15.120 extra picks. We'll see. That's still very, very viable I 0:11:15.120 --> 0:11:19.480 would say, yeah, Paul, have we seen NFL teams reach 0:11:19.640 --> 0:11:25.040 for quarterbacks in the first round before every year? Here? Yes, 0:11:25.720 --> 0:11:28.199 we have seen that. Right there. There are some people 0:11:28.200 --> 0:11:30.120 out there, PAULI that will tell you right now, there 0:11:30.120 --> 0:11:33.120 are some scouts that say, hey, you know what, c J. 0:11:33.440 --> 0:11:39.079 Stroud is no slam dunk. They'll even say that about Bryce. 0:11:39.280 --> 0:11:43.160 They'll say Bryce Young is no slam dunk either, you know. 0:11:43.240 --> 0:11:47.320 I mean, look, there are a lot of teams in 0:11:47.360 --> 0:11:51.840 the NFL that are desperate for a franchise quarterback, and 0:11:52.000 --> 0:11:56.439 unfortunately for them, that desperation makes them take chances. Think 0:11:56.480 --> 0:11:59.480 about it wasn't that long ago twenty seventeen. What are 0:11:59.520 --> 0:12:02.480 the Bears? They moved up from three to two? Yeah, 0:12:02.520 --> 0:12:06.160 why to take Mitchell Trubisky. Yes, and they gave up 0:12:06.200 --> 0:12:09.560 to move up one spot. They gave up number three overall, 0:12:09.600 --> 0:12:11.400 as the Niners only had to move down one. They 0:12:11.400 --> 0:12:13.680 gave up an extra third round pick, an extra fourth 0:12:13.800 --> 0:12:16.280 round pick, and then a third round pick. Then next season, 0:12:16.600 --> 0:12:19.920 how about two years ago twenty twenty one, Trevor Lawrence 0:12:19.920 --> 0:12:23.360 went one, Zach Wilson number two. And then what did 0:12:23.360 --> 0:12:26.000 the Niners do? They traded three first round picks to 0:12:26.040 --> 0:12:30.600 move up to number three for trade lance. Yes, so, look, 0:12:30.840 --> 0:12:34.840 you're absolutely right. History says there's a real good chance 0:12:34.960 --> 0:12:37.560 better than not of it happening and the Cardinals moving 0:12:37.600 --> 0:12:40.680 down to a least number four and cashing in the 0:12:40.760 --> 0:12:43.800 quarterback quotion we'll see. Check out the latest episodes of 0:12:43.840 --> 0:12:47.160 The Day Pash Podcast to be your preferred podcast provider. 0:12:47.320 --> 0:12:50.120 Get the latest updates via Twitter at pashpod. By the way, 0:12:50.160 --> 0:12:51.960 Darren Rby're gonna join us in this addition to the 0:12:51.960 --> 0:12:55.160 Big Red Rage presented by Santan Ford and Gilbert. As 0:12:55.160 --> 0:13:02.720 we roll on every day, I ask Money, I'm like, Money, 0:13:02.800 --> 0:13:04.280 what you doing with that pick? What you're doing with 0:13:04.400 --> 0:13:05.760 that pick? He's like, you know what I'm doing with 0:13:05.840 --> 0:13:07.800 that pick. I don't know what you're doing with that pick. 0:13:07.800 --> 0:13:09.760 But a lot of flexibility I think that we have 0:13:09.960 --> 0:13:12.760 with that because of where we're at, and I know 0:13:12.840 --> 0:13:16.160 he's got all the different options, how he wants to 0:13:16.200 --> 0:13:18.800 do things and what we're looking to get out of 0:13:18.840 --> 0:13:21.880 the certain options. If he chooses to move out of it, 0:13:22.800 --> 0:13:26.360 What does he mean by that exactly? Mannie austin Ford 0:13:26.559 --> 0:13:29.880 when he answers Jonathan Gannon with you know what I'm 0:13:29.880 --> 0:13:32.600 gonna do with that pick. Well, we're here to fill 0:13:32.600 --> 0:13:34.840 in the blanks. This edition of the Big Red Rage 0:13:34.880 --> 0:13:38.240 presented by santan Ford, I Gilbert. We are santan Ford, 0:13:38.240 --> 0:13:41.720 Paul kelvc Ron Wolfley, and now joined by Cardinals insider 0:13:41.760 --> 0:13:45.400 and attendee at the NFL Owners Meetings Darren urban Is 0:13:45.440 --> 0:13:47.680 on board. And Darren, that was a comment made to 0:13:47.840 --> 0:13:52.280 NFL Network at the Owner's meetings. So, gentlemen, when Jonathan 0:13:52.280 --> 0:13:55.160 Gannon poses that question of Monnie Austin, Ford says, you 0:13:55.200 --> 0:13:58.200 know what I'm doing with that pick? Multiple choice here, 0:13:58.240 --> 0:14:02.040 Either A you're taking Willison. B you're trading in a 0:14:02.040 --> 0:14:05.840 way because somebody wants a quarterback? Is there a ci? Yes? 0:14:06.440 --> 0:14:09.160 What would c be a trade down with the coltson 0:14:09.480 --> 0:14:12.800 still draft will Anderson? Okay, Paul, that that is the 0:14:12.840 --> 0:14:15.480 best way to go. You and I both know it. Okay. 0:14:15.679 --> 0:14:18.920 So Darren, what do you think can we read anything 0:14:18.960 --> 0:14:22.480 into that SoundBite? Have the Cardinals already decided, for example, 0:14:22.560 --> 0:14:26.320 what they're doing with number three overall based on that response? Well, 0:14:26.360 --> 0:14:29.720 I mean to be honest, Paul, based on that response, 0:14:31.040 --> 0:14:33.360 the answer could be exactly what you just said. If 0:14:33.400 --> 0:14:35.040 Monty's telling them, you know what I'm gonna do with 0:14:35.080 --> 0:14:38.600 that pick. It could be we're either trading down or 0:14:38.880 --> 0:14:41.880 taking will Anderson. And again, we don't know for sure 0:14:41.920 --> 0:14:44.560 if it's gonna be will Anderson. Everybody's making that guestimate, 0:14:46.040 --> 0:14:49.280 but I don't think they know for sure what's going 0:14:49.320 --> 0:14:55.320 to happen. There's a possibility, yes, that Monte Assenford has 0:14:55.360 --> 0:14:58.440 been has talked to teams already and has an idea 0:14:58.480 --> 0:15:03.000 of a potential trade on the clock that somebody said, 0:15:03.040 --> 0:15:05.680 we will do this if this is the scenario. So 0:15:05.720 --> 0:15:08.160 maybe he does have an idea that a trade could happen. 0:15:09.960 --> 0:15:14.800 But my guess is ultimately this is gonna be about 0:15:14.880 --> 0:15:17.360 what is happening in those ten minutes that the Cardinals 0:15:17.400 --> 0:15:20.000 are on the clock after Houston makes their pick, and 0:15:20.040 --> 0:15:22.920 the Cardinals are on their clock, and they're gonna know, 0:15:24.160 --> 0:15:27.120 you know, hey, do we want to take will Anderson 0:15:27.320 --> 0:15:30.520 for example, or is somebody going on a trade up 0:15:30.520 --> 0:15:33.960 for whoever might be there, whatever quarterback that might be. 0:15:34.560 --> 0:15:36.800 And by the way, you know, if those rumors and 0:15:36.880 --> 0:15:40.440 reports are true that the Texans are truly taking crazy 0:15:40.480 --> 0:15:42.920 pills and they might take will Anderson number two overall 0:15:42.920 --> 0:15:45.920 instead of a franchise quarterback. That's not a bad thing 0:15:45.960 --> 0:15:48.840 for the Arizona Cardinals in my estimation, because wolf that 0:15:48.880 --> 0:15:51.320 means Bryce Young or c J. Strout is on the board, 0:15:52.000 --> 0:15:54.240 And that's why the Cardinals hang on to number three 0:15:54.320 --> 0:15:57.640 until draft night, just in case, and then because what 0:15:57.760 --> 0:16:00.120 happens and what are teams willing to trade? You? Oh, 0:16:00.240 --> 0:16:02.680 if one of those two marquis elite quarterbacks is still 0:16:02.680 --> 0:16:05.160 on the board at three, that's where you really might 0:16:05.200 --> 0:16:08.480 cash it in. Yeah, you know, Polly, there's a rumor 0:16:08.520 --> 0:16:10.560 that is out there right now that I tend to 0:16:10.640 --> 0:16:15.520 believe the Tennessee Titans and the fact that Tennessee Titans 0:16:15.560 --> 0:16:19.320 are sitting there and they're looking at Anthony Richardson at 0:16:19.400 --> 0:16:23.080 number three and thinking to themselves, Man, can you imagine 0:16:23.080 --> 0:16:25.960 how beautiful that would be for Anthony Richardson to be 0:16:26.080 --> 0:16:30.400 handing the ball off to Derek Henry right behind that 0:16:30.520 --> 0:16:33.760 offensive line in this offense where we use an awful 0:16:33.800 --> 0:16:37.080 lot of twelve personnel, two tight ends, we're gonna hammer 0:16:37.120 --> 0:16:42.960 the ball. Anthony Richardson is so alluring to a Tennessee 0:16:43.000 --> 0:16:48.480 Titans team. I think that I am more convinced than ever, 0:16:48.600 --> 0:16:51.240 the Arizona Cardinals are going to have a decision to make. 0:16:51.680 --> 0:16:55.200 Are you going to draft Will Anderson at number three 0:16:55.400 --> 0:16:58.040 or are you gonna move down? And I still believe 0:16:58.120 --> 0:17:01.920 the Indianapolis Colts are big players in this too. It's 0:17:01.920 --> 0:17:05.199 funny you bring up the Titans because the reality is 0:17:05.600 --> 0:17:09.120 given where Derrick Henry is in his career and where 0:17:09.160 --> 0:17:11.840 Anthony Richardson's going to be in his career, the chances 0:17:11.880 --> 0:17:15.840 of them playing together significant amounts of years is probably 0:17:15.960 --> 0:17:18.640 very limited. But I understand what you're saying. If you're 0:17:18.640 --> 0:17:21.280 the Titans and you're eventually going to want to run 0:17:21.320 --> 0:17:26.080 the ball with somebody beyond Derrick Henry, you know, maybe 0:17:26.080 --> 0:17:29.720 that's a possibility. I think I think it would benefit 0:17:29.760 --> 0:17:34.880 the Cardinals greatly if that Titans rumor continues to gain steam, 0:17:34.920 --> 0:17:39.240 because then you do potentially ramp up the pressure on 0:17:39.280 --> 0:17:42.639 the Colts to make some kind of deal. But I 0:17:42.640 --> 0:17:45.639 don't know, I don't think anything's been decided. You know what, 0:17:45.680 --> 0:17:47.840 the Titans need almost as much as a future franchise 0:17:47.960 --> 0:17:51.760 quarterback wide receiver one. So throw DeAndre Hopkins into it 0:17:51.760 --> 0:17:53.800 and make it a massive trade package and figure it 0:17:53.840 --> 0:17:56.480 all out. Monty and his former team that might come 0:17:56.480 --> 0:17:59.840 to fruition. Maybe just maybe we do know Jonathan in 0:17:59.920 --> 0:18:01.879 it has other things to worry about, like, oh, as 0:18:01.920 --> 0:18:04.680 a first time head coach, getting the off season program rolling, 0:18:04.720 --> 0:18:08.040 getting the voluntary veteran mini camp going as well. Here's 0:18:08.080 --> 0:18:10.800 Drew stan former Cardinals quarterback, on the Red Sea Report. 0:18:10.840 --> 0:18:12.760 And when we were talking about the importance of the 0:18:12.800 --> 0:18:15.359 off season work, there's a lot to be said for 0:18:15.359 --> 0:18:17.679 the continuity that's built when you can just kind of 0:18:17.680 --> 0:18:20.399 come together and you start building what this roster is 0:18:20.440 --> 0:18:23.280 going to look like and guys just interacting and playing golf, 0:18:23.320 --> 0:18:26.040 and those are the things that you look for that 0:18:26.080 --> 0:18:28.680 you are excited about of being back around your guys, 0:18:28.720 --> 0:18:31.240 because again, when the season starts, you have to rely 0:18:31.400 --> 0:18:34.640 on everybody in that locker room, and there's a constant 0:18:34.680 --> 0:18:36.760 evaluation process that will begin as soon as you step 0:18:36.800 --> 0:18:38.840 foot in this building. And for the vast majority of us, 0:18:39.080 --> 0:18:42.000 you are surviving each and every year to keep your job. 0:18:42.600 --> 0:18:45.520 And don't think for a second that the new coaches, 0:18:45.880 --> 0:18:48.760 the new decision makers aren't looking at those players on 0:18:48.800 --> 0:18:51.439 the field and trying to make an assessment. It's the 0:18:51.480 --> 0:18:53.919 first time they're seeing them in person out on that 0:18:53.920 --> 0:18:55.920 practice field. Drew told a story when he was first 0:18:55.960 --> 0:18:57.959 into the league, and Wolf, you remember, if you had 0:18:58.000 --> 0:18:59.720 a new coach and you had one of these off 0:18:59.760 --> 0:19:02.200 season in mini camps, it might as well be training 0:19:02.240 --> 0:19:04.240 camp because everybody on that field's trying to show the 0:19:04.280 --> 0:19:07.359 new coach I'm worthy is sticking and staying on this team. 0:19:07.880 --> 0:19:11.119 And I think first and foremost guys would be Isaiah Simmons. 0:19:11.119 --> 0:19:14.320 What exactly is his future? Does he have something to show? 0:19:14.359 --> 0:19:16.919 Wolf in your estimation? Can he show anything in the 0:19:17.000 --> 0:19:19.240 month of April. Have they already looked at the film 0:19:19.240 --> 0:19:21.480 and made their decision on his future because the decision 0:19:21.600 --> 0:19:24.119 is due by May second? Yeah, I know that is 0:19:24.280 --> 0:19:27.040 That is great? Kay, It's a great question right there, POULI. 0:19:27.160 --> 0:19:29.679 I don't know how to answer that. I do know 0:19:29.760 --> 0:19:33.040 this right now. It depends what their culture is. I 0:19:33.200 --> 0:19:36.280 know that Jonathan Gannon has got a belief as to 0:19:36.440 --> 0:19:38.760 what kind of team he wants to have and what 0:19:38.880 --> 0:19:42.360 kind of player he wants walking around that locker room, 0:19:42.440 --> 0:19:46.040 walking around the facility, building the weight room, modeling that 0:19:46.119 --> 0:19:49.480 kind of culture. I know he's got that in his mind. 0:19:49.800 --> 0:19:53.680 I would boy, I would want to talk to Isaiah Simmons. 0:19:53.720 --> 0:19:56.119 I would want to sit down with Isaiah Simmons. I 0:19:56.119 --> 0:19:58.879 would want to watch him work. I would want him. 0:19:59.440 --> 0:20:01.760 I would want to see him in the strength and 0:20:01.880 --> 0:20:04.880 conditioning programs and maybe in a meeting room, and how 0:20:04.920 --> 0:20:07.840 he goes about his business and whether or not he's 0:20:07.840 --> 0:20:12.960 actually watching the tape and understanding our offense and our terminology. 0:20:13.040 --> 0:20:16.600 I would want all of that exposure to him before 0:20:16.640 --> 0:20:18.960 you made your mind up as to what you were 0:20:18.960 --> 0:20:21.760 going to do. On that May second date, you can 0:20:22.000 --> 0:20:26.639 get a conversation and potentially, although for me, there was 0:20:26.680 --> 0:20:28.640 two things here. First of all, at the owner's meeting, 0:20:28.720 --> 0:20:31.520 Jonathan Gannon didn't get specific, but when he did talk 0:20:31.560 --> 0:20:33.920 about Isaiah Simmons getting good news on his health, he 0:20:34.040 --> 0:20:37.760 tapped his shoulder. Isaiah Simmons did seem to hurt his 0:20:37.800 --> 0:20:40.919 shoulder in the season finale last year. So my question 0:20:41.040 --> 0:20:44.679 is maybe good good news is good news, but we 0:20:44.720 --> 0:20:46.000 don't even know if he's gonna be able to do 0:20:46.040 --> 0:20:48.600 anything on the field at the end of April, and 0:20:48.760 --> 0:20:51.760 even if he is, I'm not one hundred percent sold 0:20:51.800 --> 0:20:53.280 that you're going to be able to see anything in 0:20:53.320 --> 0:20:56.199 that short amount of time to let you make a 0:20:56.240 --> 0:20:58.080 decision on that. I mean, I think you're gonna have 0:20:58.119 --> 0:21:02.200 to make this decision on the option or the fifth 0:21:02.280 --> 0:21:05.840 year option completely based on tape, That's my guess, and 0:21:06.000 --> 0:21:09.200 a conversation or two. Yes, true. But but in terms 0:21:09.240 --> 0:21:11.200 of the football part of it, I don't I don't 0:21:11.200 --> 0:21:14.840 think you're going to get anything worth making a complete 0:21:14.960 --> 0:21:18.040 choice on the option. You know what, though, do I 0:21:18.040 --> 0:21:20.600 think honestly, you're going to give him the ability to 0:21:20.600 --> 0:21:24.160 actually show you he understands the game of football as well? Right, 0:21:24.480 --> 0:21:26.200 You're you're going to be I mean, if you talk 0:21:26.240 --> 0:21:29.600 to him, yeah, yeah, oh no, I I again, you 0:21:29.600 --> 0:21:32.520 can have a conversation, but yeah, that's an eleven million 0:21:32.560 --> 0:21:34.919 dollar conversation. I know. Well, how long are you're going 0:21:35.000 --> 0:21:36.399 to talk to him to decide that you want to 0:21:36.400 --> 0:21:39.359 give him eleven or twelve million dollars? Yeah? No, that 0:21:39.800 --> 0:21:42.439 would be a pretty intense conversation. Role. Yeah, but I 0:21:42.480 --> 0:21:45.240 think you also have to understand just what kind of 0:21:45.240 --> 0:21:48.000 football player, what kind of mentality is sitting in front 0:21:48.040 --> 0:21:50.600 of you right now? Do you think he could actually 0:21:50.680 --> 0:21:53.000 play at the edge? Do you think where where do 0:21:53.040 --> 0:21:56.520 you where? Do you project him playing in your defense? 0:21:56.640 --> 0:22:01.040 What is his comprehension level of your defense and whether 0:22:01.160 --> 0:22:04.000 or not I think they're gonna want to talk to him. 0:22:04.400 --> 0:22:07.000