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Speaker 1: Lots to Say with Bobby Bones and Matt Castle is

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Speaker 1: a production of the NFL and iHeart podcasts.

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Speaker 2: We got lots, Just say.

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Speaker 1: We got loss, just saved what the becker here?

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Speaker 3: And we hope you say because.

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Speaker 4: We got lost, just say, yeah, we got lots.

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Speaker 2: Just say here's.

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Speaker 4: Bobby That all right?

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Speaker 5: Welcome to another episode of Lots to Say.

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Speaker 6: We did two this week because we had pretty much

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Speaker 6: an hour here with Randall Cobb, who I think a

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Speaker 6: Randall Cobb is like playing that slot in Green Bay,

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Speaker 6: making all those catches across the middle, being quick.

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Speaker 5: When Rogers went to the Jets, he went with them.

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Speaker 6: So and also Randall Cobb was always big for fantasy,

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Speaker 6: like there'd be just random weeks we'd have like nineteen

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Speaker 6: twenty twenty one points. So super cool that Randall came over.

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Speaker 6: You can follow him on Twitter and Instagram Our Cob eighteen.

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Speaker 6: And we do talk about the Special Forces show on Fox,

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Speaker 6: and I'm glad Matt asked about that he's doing that,

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Speaker 6: and so for sure watch that show if it's something

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Speaker 6: that would interest you. But Randall Cobb got a whole

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Speaker 6: list here. Former NFL wide receiver Aaron Rodgers is the

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Speaker 6: godfather of one of his sons and was at his wedding.

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Speaker 6: So when we talk about Aaron Rodgers, know that there's

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Speaker 6: a relationship more than just quarterback wide receiver. He was

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Speaker 6: the sixty fourth overall pick in the twenty eleven NFL Draft,

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Speaker 6: which is the second round Pro Bowler All Rookie Team

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Speaker 6: of twenty eleven First team All American. Went in college,

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Speaker 6: two time first team All SEC, fifty seven career touchdowns

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Speaker 6: at the time. He set the record for the longest

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Speaker 6: kickoff return in the NFL with one hundred and eight

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Speaker 6: yard return, which we do talk about it. Scored five

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Speaker 6: game winning fourth quarter touchdowns, went back to Kentucky to

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Speaker 6: finish his degree in twenty sixteen while.

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Speaker 5: In the NFL. And I could keep going.

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Speaker 6: But Randall Cobb, super nice guy, who were so excited

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Speaker 6: to have him periods.

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Speaker 4: Yes, sir, the.

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Speaker 5: Simulator, he pointed it out as soon as he sat down.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, he said, I think we're sitting a golf simulator.

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Speaker 7: Before you see my game.

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Speaker 4: We've got some work today. We've got a little bit

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Speaker 4: of work today.

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Speaker 5: Swings after right in here, go to see you man,

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Speaker 5: ready to see you too.

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Speaker 6: Well, let's just start how much do you keep up

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Speaker 6: with the current landscape of football?

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Speaker 5: Uh?

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Speaker 7: I am teetering right now. My wife the other day

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Speaker 7: last Sunday, she was like, you haven't watched this much

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Speaker 7: football ever since I've known you, and Uh, I think

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Speaker 7: last year was a little bit of a transition, you know,

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Speaker 7: not playing. Uh, but this year I'm I'm back on

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Speaker 2: Let me ask you this, are you one of those

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Speaker 2: guys that will watch a particular game.

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Speaker 4: Are you a red zone guy? I've burned into a

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Speaker 7: So I have red zone on and then like, so

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Speaker 7: the way I got to set up, I got four

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Speaker 7: screens red zone on. I'll have two games going and

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Speaker 7: then maybe we'll see who the third game is down here.

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Speaker 4: Yeah. Yeah.

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Speaker 6: For the first time this past week, I had a

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Speaker 5: It was too much.

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Speaker 2: My wife looked at me and goes, I think this

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Speaker 6: D I think for the first time ever, because that's

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Speaker 6: And I thought to myself, I don't know, I can't.

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Speaker 6: And also, it's like I got fantasy, I got I'm gambling.

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Speaker 6: It's like I got eight things happening aside from the

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Speaker 5: Did a little bit. I had to take a breath,

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Speaker 6: I stepped away to the Cowboys game, which was then

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Speaker 6: like its own red zone channel, insane, that game bouncing

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Speaker 6: so much. We put the Cowboys homet up here because

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Speaker 6: you had a little stint with the Cowboys.

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Speaker 5: There we go, soda cast cast man.

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Speaker 4: Hell, a little stint one year stint?

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Speaker 5: How long did you play the Cowboys?

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Speaker 7: That was a year?

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Speaker 5: What was that experience like for you?

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Speaker 7: It was great. It was a lot of fun. You know,

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Speaker 7: we went eight and eight, which doesn't sound like that

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Speaker 4: Dak.

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Speaker 7: That was Zeke right after you signed hill big deal

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Speaker 7: to come back to the Cowboys. I was there that

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Speaker 7: whole year. That was Garrits last year. He ended up

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Speaker 7: me for not signing back with the Cowboys.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, that's crazy.

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Speaker 2: How was that transition though, because you're with Green Bay

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Speaker 4: Eight years, eight years, and then you go to the Cowboys.

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Speaker 2: What was it like just going into that new environment

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Speaker 2: culture wise, because you're used to one thing for so long, sure,

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Speaker 2: and then you make that transition go to new organization,

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Speaker 7: Yeah, I think that, you know, you have this perception

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Speaker 7: and it it really makes you feel like you're a

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Speaker 6: Did you feel like the Cowboys like that was a

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Speaker 7: Without a doubt. I mean, between Green Bay and then Dallas,

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Speaker 7: the difference is ownership obviously, right. Green Bay doesn't have

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Speaker 7: it's it's luxury, you know. We had They were doing

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Speaker 7: so we had like valet service, like when we're pulling.

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Speaker 4: Up for practice.

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Speaker 2: I was a year before that we were at the

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Speaker 7: Crazy.

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Speaker 4: Everybody's like, oh, it's like the taj mahal right.

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Speaker 7: And then they had like a member's only restaurant that

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Speaker 2: Now, you say you talked about Jerry, but did Jerry

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Speaker 2: Garrett would That was the thing that blew my mind, yes,

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Speaker 7: It did. And then he would have the media in there,

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Speaker 7: But it was cool. I I really, I really enjoyed that,

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Speaker 7: and I have a pretty cool story with Jerry. Just

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Speaker 7: So like in my mind, I'm like, oh, yeah, i'm't

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Speaker 6: So whenever your coach comes down to Dallas, because it

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Speaker 6: then he came out. Was he the reason that you

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Speaker 7: No, so I went to Dallas the year before. So

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Speaker 7: I was on three separate teams in three years in

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Speaker 7: think we have a comment nominators there. But twenty eighteen

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Speaker 5: So he didn't with him. You were there, he came in.

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Speaker 7: But it was crazy because after they hired him, I

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Speaker 2: So you grew up in East Tennessee. You were a

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Speaker 2: three three sport athlete growing up. When did you know

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Speaker 7: Probably it was probably I was La Bloomer. I'm young

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Speaker 7: So like I'm always like looking up to these guys.

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Speaker 7: I would go to camps. I remember going to Clemson

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Speaker 7: It never really was a full time thing for me

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Speaker 7: But yeah, he was he understood the offense when he

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Speaker 6: was trying to do and what he was doing.

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00:20:25,896 --> 00:20:29,656
Speaker 7: Yeah, I was planning on retiring. I was after going

441
00:20:29,816 --> 00:20:31,896
Speaker 7: to Green Bay, going back to Green Bay, I got

442
00:20:31,896 --> 00:20:34,455
Speaker 7: traded back from Houston. It was like, man, that's a

443
00:20:34,455 --> 00:20:36,776
Speaker 7: full circle. Moment I get to come back to where

444
00:20:36,816 --> 00:20:39,936
Speaker 7: it all started. For me, I was at peace, and

445
00:20:40,336 --> 00:20:45,576
Speaker 7: obviously the Jets made that move to get him. It's

446
00:20:45,616 --> 00:20:48,136
Speaker 7: crazy because we had conversations about playing in New York

447
00:20:48,176 --> 00:20:50,416
Speaker 7: a long time ago, and it was just like, Oh,

448
00:20:50,416 --> 00:20:53,975
Speaker 7: that's never going to happen, but it comes to be.

449
00:20:54,376 --> 00:20:58,136
Speaker 7: And we had that moment and that opportunity, and it

450
00:20:58,176 --> 00:21:01,576
Speaker 7: was a great situation. You had Robert Salad, who I

451
00:21:01,656 --> 00:21:06,215
Speaker 7: thought was a great coach defensive minded, Aaron was gonna

452
00:21:06,256 --> 00:21:09,815
Speaker 7: have a little bit of flexibility offensively to implement some

453
00:21:09,936 --> 00:21:13,936
Speaker 7: of what he does. They had a great running game

454
00:21:14,215 --> 00:21:19,696
Speaker 7: with Breis Hall. We felt like we had enough pieces there,

455
00:21:19,936 --> 00:21:23,576
Speaker 7: and then four plays into the season, the whole thing

456
00:21:23,616 --> 00:21:28,096
Speaker 7: blows up so long, without a doubt, without a doubt,

457
00:21:28,176 --> 00:21:29,975
Speaker 7: and I was actually surprised they kept me as long

458
00:21:30,016 --> 00:21:31,856
Speaker 7: as they did. I thought that like after that that

459
00:21:31,936 --> 00:21:33,856
Speaker 7: they would, you know, start making moves.

460
00:21:34,016 --> 00:21:36,416
Speaker 6: What do you remember endgame about that? And what and

461
00:21:36,455 --> 00:21:38,736
Speaker 6: how how fast did you know what had happened with him?

462
00:21:39,176 --> 00:21:42,896
Speaker 7: Uh? Nobody was talking about it. On the sideline. We

463
00:21:42,896 --> 00:21:45,616
Speaker 7: were trying to figure out, like what happened? I think

464
00:21:45,616 --> 00:21:47,656
Speaker 7: they were trying to keep our mind in the game

465
00:21:48,416 --> 00:21:50,295
Speaker 7: and not tell us exactly what it was. So it

466
00:21:50,376 --> 00:21:55,136
Speaker 7: wasn't until halftime for me. I walked into halftime, immediately

467
00:21:55,215 --> 00:21:57,735
Speaker 7: ran back to the to the training room, and I

468
00:21:57,856 --> 00:21:59,536
Speaker 7: just seen him laying on the bench, and as soon

469
00:21:59,536 --> 00:22:01,856
Speaker 7: as he sees me, it's just like he started crying,

470
00:22:01,856 --> 00:22:05,336
Speaker 7: and I was like, dang man, stuff. So I knew,

471
00:22:05,576 --> 00:22:08,136
Speaker 7: I knew what it was at that point. But yeah,

472
00:22:08,176 --> 00:22:10,295
Speaker 7: and then we went out and finished that game and

473
00:22:10,376 --> 00:22:11,056
Speaker 7: somehow we.

474
00:22:11,056 --> 00:22:11,536
Speaker 5: Won that game.

475
00:22:11,776 --> 00:22:12,136
Speaker 3: We won it.

476
00:22:12,215 --> 00:22:16,055
Speaker 7: Yeah, it was like a crazy punt return to end it.

477
00:22:16,495 --> 00:22:18,535
Speaker 2: Did you know, knowing him, did you think that he

478
00:22:18,656 --> 00:22:20,256
Speaker 2: was going to come back and play the following year.

479
00:22:22,215 --> 00:22:25,055
Speaker 7: I I thought for sure that he wouldn't want to

480
00:22:25,056 --> 00:22:27,775
Speaker 7: go out that way. Like I thought for sure like

481
00:22:27,816 --> 00:22:30,536
Speaker 7: that would be the case. And there were a lot

482
00:22:30,536 --> 00:22:32,856
Speaker 7: of things that I saw during that season. You talk

483
00:22:32,896 --> 00:22:35,416
Speaker 7: about organizations, like after being in Dallas and being in

484
00:22:35,455 --> 00:22:38,696
Speaker 7: Green Bay and seeing how certain things have run, you

485
00:22:39,136 --> 00:22:43,495
Speaker 7: realize some of what's happening that's more than football, and

486
00:22:43,536 --> 00:22:48,416
Speaker 7: it's like I'm sorry, I'm good, I'm good. Yeah, yeah, yeah,

487
00:22:48,416 --> 00:22:52,255
Speaker 7: I'm good. So you know, it was unfortunate, but you know,

488
00:22:52,336 --> 00:22:55,696
Speaker 7: he obviously played that second year in New York. And

489
00:22:56,056 --> 00:22:58,736
Speaker 7: you know, I think anyone that's came off of injury

490
00:22:59,215 --> 00:23:01,736
Speaker 7: knows that that first season back you're not quite up

491
00:23:01,735 --> 00:23:05,376
Speaker 7: to your standard because you've been rehabbing the entire time.

492
00:23:05,416 --> 00:23:08,495
Speaker 7: I'm rather than focusing on your training.

493
00:23:08,816 --> 00:23:11,376
Speaker 6: We saught with him saw with Kirk Cousins, right, you

494
00:23:11,416 --> 00:23:13,856
Speaker 6: know that Achilles. Usually they say he can come back,

495
00:23:13,975 --> 00:23:17,416
Speaker 6: but you're not fully back until a year and four or.

496
00:23:17,416 --> 00:23:18,416
Speaker 7: Five months easily.

497
00:23:18,856 --> 00:23:21,176
Speaker 5: Did you think about maybe moving to Pittsburgh.

498
00:23:20,735 --> 00:23:21,256
Speaker 4: For a little bit?

499
00:23:21,896 --> 00:23:24,816
Speaker 7: What's crazy is my my favorite childhood team growing up

500
00:23:24,896 --> 00:23:27,896
Speaker 7: was the Stillers. I grew up behind his Ward fan

501
00:23:28,056 --> 00:23:32,736
Speaker 7: like that was my guy, like Randall L. Cordell Stewart.

502
00:23:32,816 --> 00:23:36,536
Speaker 7: My dad was a huge Pittsburgh fan because lyn Swan's

503
00:23:36,576 --> 00:23:39,176
Speaker 7: grandmother lived across the street from him when he was

504
00:23:39,215 --> 00:23:41,215
Speaker 7: growing up, so Lynce Wan would come back to town

505
00:23:41,656 --> 00:23:44,256
Speaker 7: and play pass with my dad growing up as a kid.

506
00:23:44,336 --> 00:23:49,656
Speaker 7: So I grew up like with fat heads of Jerome

507
00:23:49,816 --> 00:23:53,376
Speaker 7: Bettis and you know some of those legendary still in

508
00:23:53,416 --> 00:23:55,295
Speaker 7: his moments that I remember watching with my dad on

509
00:23:55,336 --> 00:23:57,456
Speaker 7: the couch. Like I was a huge Stealers fan growing up,

510
00:23:58,056 --> 00:24:00,416
Speaker 7: but no, I was at that point I was, I

511
00:24:00,536 --> 00:24:01,015
Speaker 7: was ready.

512
00:24:01,336 --> 00:24:04,455
Speaker 2: He made some what five game winning catches in your career?

513
00:24:04,495 --> 00:24:07,015
Speaker 2: Does one standout you in your mind because in the

514
00:24:07,016 --> 00:24:10,016
Speaker 2: most pivotal moments you stepped up in these these games.

515
00:24:10,256 --> 00:24:12,455
Speaker 7: Yeah, I would say probably. It would probably be the

516
00:24:12,455 --> 00:24:15,856
Speaker 7: Bears game twenty thirteen to get us into the playoffs.

517
00:24:17,856 --> 00:24:21,936
Speaker 7: To special moment here, special moment. So twenty thirteen, I

518
00:24:21,975 --> 00:24:27,295
Speaker 7: broke my leg midseason, like low hit. I thought I

519
00:24:27,336 --> 00:24:31,136
Speaker 7: blew everything out, just had a plateau fracture, missed ten weeks.

520
00:24:31,455 --> 00:24:34,216
Speaker 7: Aaron broke his collar bone same season. He was out

521
00:24:34,256 --> 00:24:37,376
Speaker 7: like eight weeks. We both come back for that Bears

522
00:24:37,455 --> 00:24:41,136
Speaker 7: game and we had to win to get into the playoffs.

523
00:24:42,016 --> 00:24:44,295
Speaker 7: I think I played like twenty snaps that game, just

524
00:24:44,376 --> 00:24:48,015
Speaker 7: on a very limited basis. I think we had like

525
00:24:48,975 --> 00:24:53,216
Speaker 7: three fourth down conversions on that final drive. And then

526
00:24:53,215 --> 00:24:55,455
Speaker 7: it was fourth and eight from the forty eight and

527
00:24:55,816 --> 00:24:59,735
Speaker 7: we're in a huddle during a time out and Aaron

528
00:24:59,816 --> 00:25:03,055
Speaker 7: basically is like, Hey, okay, this this is what I'm thinking.

529
00:25:04,536 --> 00:25:06,656
Speaker 7: Jordi was at the Hey, I want you to run

530
00:25:07,376 --> 00:25:11,816
Speaker 7: like a deep cross Randall, get past the sticks, run

531
00:25:11,856 --> 00:25:15,176
Speaker 7: a pivot right there past the sticks. JJ, who was

532
00:25:15,215 --> 00:25:17,376
Speaker 7: playing outside I want you to run a Puma comeback

533
00:25:17,455 --> 00:25:21,015
Speaker 7: route fifteen yards outside of number one. We get up

534
00:25:21,056 --> 00:25:24,936
Speaker 7: to the line and we realize they're in zero, so

535
00:25:25,136 --> 00:25:28,855
Speaker 7: zero blitzing everyone playing man across the board and I

536
00:25:28,896 --> 00:25:33,576
Speaker 7: see Chris Kanti, who's at safety, who's covering me. He's

537
00:25:33,656 --> 00:25:36,856
Speaker 7: like standing right where I have to stop, so the

538
00:25:36,936 --> 00:25:39,975
Speaker 7: ball snapping. I come off the ball and I just

539
00:25:40,016 --> 00:25:42,255
Speaker 7: remember looking and seeing his eyes in the backfield, and

540
00:25:42,256 --> 00:25:44,455
Speaker 7: I'm like, I can take it right here, and i

541
00:25:44,576 --> 00:25:48,775
Speaker 7: just throw my hand up and like hoping that he

542
00:25:48,856 --> 00:25:51,496
Speaker 7: sees me throw my hand up. And the next thing

543
00:25:51,536 --> 00:25:53,055
Speaker 7: I know is I look up and the balls in

544
00:25:53,096 --> 00:26:00,016
Speaker 7: the air, and it felt like the little giants. It's

545
00:26:00,096 --> 00:26:03,016
Speaker 7: like that those are always the hardest one because it's

546
00:26:03,336 --> 00:26:06,255
Speaker 7: like it's so easiest right there, just make the play.

547
00:26:07,096 --> 00:26:08,896
Speaker 7: But luckily I was able to make the catch, dive

548
00:26:08,896 --> 00:26:11,296
Speaker 7: into the end zone. Actually just had that jersey, that

549
00:26:11,376 --> 00:26:14,776
Speaker 7: jersey's been in storage forever. Just had that jersey framed.

550
00:26:14,776 --> 00:26:18,616
Speaker 7: I still have the orange stain on it from from

551
00:26:18,656 --> 00:26:21,096
Speaker 7: the Bears logo. I still have the helmet with the

552
00:26:21,215 --> 00:26:23,536
Speaker 7: grass that was stuck in my helmet that I got

553
00:26:23,536 --> 00:26:27,176
Speaker 7: put in a shadow box. But yeah, those. That was

554
00:26:27,215 --> 00:26:29,735
Speaker 7: probably one of those moments that I look back like, Wow,

555
00:26:29,816 --> 00:26:31,176
Speaker 7: that was that was special.

556
00:26:46,696 --> 00:26:47,856
Speaker 5: You guys owned the Bears.

557
00:26:48,176 --> 00:26:49,696
Speaker 7: Who did you? Yeah?

558
00:26:49,776 --> 00:26:52,535
Speaker 5: It was like it didn't matter what year it was,

559
00:26:52,656 --> 00:26:55,735
Speaker 5: what the records were. You guys owned the Bears. Why

560
00:26:55,936 --> 00:26:56,336
Speaker 5: was that?

561
00:26:58,856 --> 00:27:01,696
Speaker 7: I wish I could tell you that I knew exactly why.

562
00:27:02,176 --> 00:27:06,616
Speaker 7: I think for a long time we just kind of

563
00:27:06,656 --> 00:27:10,016
Speaker 7: had their number because we we knew what they were

564
00:27:10,016 --> 00:27:12,015
Speaker 7: going to do, and we just knew that they couldn't

565
00:27:12,056 --> 00:27:14,975
Speaker 7: stop us. And it was just I think that confidence

566
00:27:14,975 --> 00:27:17,616
Speaker 7: that you play with where it's like we've been here,

567
00:27:17,656 --> 00:27:20,136
Speaker 7: we've done that, we know what this this field is

568
00:27:20,176 --> 00:27:22,255
Speaker 7: going to do. Like you go down to Chicago and

569
00:27:22,296 --> 00:27:24,656
Speaker 7: the field is beat up. You got to put in

570
00:27:24,656 --> 00:27:28,015
Speaker 7: those you got to put in those long studs. Yeah,

571
00:27:28,176 --> 00:27:30,136
Speaker 7: you know what it is like, you know what kind

572
00:27:30,136 --> 00:27:33,416
Speaker 7: of game is going to be like, and you just

573
00:27:33,656 --> 00:27:35,215
Speaker 7: you go out there and you just play with a

574
00:27:35,256 --> 00:27:36,816
Speaker 7: confidence that's that's unmatched.

575
00:27:37,056 --> 00:27:39,136
Speaker 4: You were talking about you have the jersey, the helmet.

576
00:27:39,176 --> 00:27:40,856
Speaker 2: I remember one day we were at school and you

577
00:27:40,896 --> 00:27:42,856
Speaker 2: pulled up and you were I think you're moving houses

578
00:27:43,256 --> 00:27:45,455
Speaker 2: And he opens up the trunk to put his kids

579
00:27:45,495 --> 00:27:48,656
Speaker 2: backpack in there and he's got all these different jerseys.

580
00:27:48,696 --> 00:27:50,535
Speaker 2: So you know you used to trade jerseys and we

581
00:27:50,576 --> 00:27:52,136
Speaker 2: talked about the cast. Did you ever do that? I

582
00:27:52,176 --> 00:27:55,216
Speaker 2: was like, man, it was my era was before that.

583
00:27:55,376 --> 00:27:58,975
Speaker 2: But what's your collection like? Because you have an incredible collection.

584
00:27:59,056 --> 00:28:00,736
Speaker 2: I saw those jersey I was like, Oh.

585
00:28:00,735 --> 00:28:01,696
Speaker 5: They weren't all just yours?

586
00:28:01,856 --> 00:28:03,256
Speaker 4: No, no, no.

587
00:28:02,215 --> 00:28:06,256
Speaker 7: No, it was all it was all jersey swaps. Some

588
00:28:06,296 --> 00:28:11,015
Speaker 7: of my favorite ones are mostly my teammates that I

589
00:28:11,016 --> 00:28:13,335
Speaker 7: played against that went on to move to different teams.

590
00:28:13,376 --> 00:28:18,576
Speaker 7: Michaeh Micah Hyde in Buffalo, I got a chance to

591
00:28:18,616 --> 00:28:22,936
Speaker 7: play against him. I got Aaron's jersey from when I

592
00:28:22,975 --> 00:28:26,376
Speaker 7: went to Dallas and we played Green Bay in Dallas.

593
00:28:26,816 --> 00:28:30,056
Speaker 7: I got his jersey from that. I got Tay's jersey

594
00:28:30,056 --> 00:28:32,215
Speaker 7: when I was in Houston and he was in Green Bay.

595
00:28:33,495 --> 00:28:36,416
Speaker 7: Those are probably some of my favorite ones. Dante high Tower,

596
00:28:36,936 --> 00:28:39,056
Speaker 7: who is a guy that you know, grew up here

597
00:28:39,096 --> 00:28:41,335
Speaker 7: in Tennessee. We played on an All Star team together

598
00:28:41,576 --> 00:28:48,536
Speaker 7: East versus West game back when they used to do that. Yes, yes,

599
00:28:49,496 --> 00:28:51,896
Speaker 7: oh yeah, oh yeah, but that was that was That's

600
00:28:51,936 --> 00:28:52,976
Speaker 7: probably some of my favorites.

601
00:28:53,096 --> 00:28:54,016
Speaker 5: How's your body now?

602
00:28:54,776 --> 00:28:55,216
Speaker 3: It's good?

603
00:28:55,296 --> 00:28:57,656
Speaker 7: Actually, I played tennis this morning, and I'm like, man,

604
00:28:57,656 --> 00:28:59,776
Speaker 7: this is this is nice to be able to move

605
00:28:59,816 --> 00:29:03,576
Speaker 7: around have some aches. You know, gotta gotta roll out

606
00:29:03,616 --> 00:29:06,976
Speaker 7: some mornings, uh, to get going. I still feel a

607
00:29:06,976 --> 00:29:09,296
Speaker 7: few of those hits, got to pop my neck every

608
00:29:09,336 --> 00:29:12,456
Speaker 7: now and then, but overall feel pretty good.

609
00:29:12,896 --> 00:29:15,696
Speaker 2: So Green Bay this year, obviously they're off to a

610
00:29:15,736 --> 00:29:17,776
Speaker 2: good start. They made a little bit of a splash

611
00:29:17,816 --> 00:29:20,536
Speaker 2: with that trade early on in the season. What do

612
00:29:20,576 --> 00:29:24,256
Speaker 2: you think that just the outlook of their season looks like,

613
00:29:24,296 --> 00:29:26,616
Speaker 2: because I think that they're a Super Bowl contender without

614
00:29:26,616 --> 00:29:27,096
Speaker 2: a doubt in mind.

615
00:29:27,176 --> 00:29:29,696
Speaker 7: Definitely, definitely. I think I think they're definitely a contender.

616
00:29:31,416 --> 00:29:35,256
Speaker 7: Bringing Micah in, Just the excitement that's around that alone,

617
00:29:35,736 --> 00:29:39,016
Speaker 7: the momentum that's built off of that him warring number

618
00:29:39,056 --> 00:29:42,856
Speaker 7: one who no one's wore number one since Curly Lambo,

619
00:29:43,536 --> 00:29:48,216
Speaker 7: which is mind blowing. That alone, I think elevates them

620
00:29:48,816 --> 00:29:52,256
Speaker 7: to another place that allows that defense to play a

621
00:29:52,296 --> 00:29:55,056
Speaker 7: little bit more free. They're able to rush for and

622
00:29:55,576 --> 00:29:58,776
Speaker 7: keep their eyes on the quarterback, play a different style

623
00:29:58,816 --> 00:30:03,216
Speaker 7: of the game. Rashan Gary, who I think is a

624
00:30:03,216 --> 00:30:05,856
Speaker 7: great player, is now going to have more op ttunities

625
00:30:05,896 --> 00:30:09,016
Speaker 7: with one on ones with all the attention that Parsons

626
00:30:09,056 --> 00:30:13,136
Speaker 7: is going to get. One of the linebackers is playing

627
00:30:13,296 --> 00:30:16,256
Speaker 7: lights out right now. I'm blanking on his name. My

628
00:30:16,256 --> 00:30:18,976
Speaker 7: wife would hate me if I said this, but you know,

629
00:30:19,056 --> 00:30:22,736
Speaker 7: CT is a real thing and gets mad at.

630
00:30:25,296 --> 00:30:25,736
Speaker 4: Doesn't say.

631
00:30:25,936 --> 00:30:30,336
Speaker 7: She's like, stop doing that, that's not What do you

632
00:30:30,376 --> 00:30:32,656
Speaker 7: think of Jordan Love? I'm a big fan. I'm a

633
00:30:32,696 --> 00:30:35,896
Speaker 7: big fan of Jordan. Just to see how much he's progressed.

634
00:30:36,696 --> 00:30:39,575
Speaker 7: I don't know if anyone could have saw that a

635
00:30:39,616 --> 00:30:44,496
Speaker 7: few years ago. Just to see his ability now and

636
00:30:44,576 --> 00:30:47,575
Speaker 7: his confidence that he plays with. Uh, some of the

637
00:30:47,616 --> 00:30:49,416
Speaker 7: things that he was able to add to his game.

638
00:30:50,856 --> 00:30:52,896
Speaker 7: You know, when I was watching the other day seeing

639
00:30:52,936 --> 00:30:57,176
Speaker 7: them make the alpha call and and try to catch

640
00:30:58,256 --> 00:31:01,736
Speaker 7: Washington with too many people on the field, like that

641
00:31:01,856 --> 00:31:03,376
Speaker 7: was a huge thing that we used to do, and

642
00:31:03,456 --> 00:31:05,576
Speaker 7: you know people would call it stealing, but it's part

643
00:31:05,576 --> 00:31:09,016
Speaker 7: of the rules, so we He's been able to add

644
00:31:09,056 --> 00:31:12,416
Speaker 7: that to his arsenal and understand when and how to

645
00:31:12,496 --> 00:31:16,336
Speaker 7: get that done. Those little those little things make a

646
00:31:16,376 --> 00:31:19,496
Speaker 7: huge difference as a quarterback. And Matt Laflour, I think

647
00:31:19,576 --> 00:31:22,816
Speaker 7: is an excellent play caller. He puts him in opportunities

648
00:31:22,816 --> 00:31:27,335
Speaker 7: to win. He makes the game easy and fun. He

649
00:31:27,416 --> 00:31:32,416
Speaker 7: creates matchups. I love his ability to take something that

650
00:31:32,456 --> 00:31:35,815
Speaker 7: he saw from the week before and added to to

651
00:31:36,136 --> 00:31:38,416
Speaker 7: the game plan, and George's been executing it.

652
00:31:39,136 --> 00:31:41,176
Speaker 2: Were you shocked that they finally took a receiver in

653
00:31:41,176 --> 00:31:42,376
Speaker 2: the first round of Matthew.

654
00:31:42,456 --> 00:31:43,936
Speaker 4: Yes, you're like saying there going.

655
00:31:44,056 --> 00:31:46,816
Speaker 2: I mean, the laundry list of high second round draft picks,

656
00:31:46,816 --> 00:31:49,056
Speaker 2: including yourself, was wild. But did you think that they

657
00:31:49,056 --> 00:31:50,256
Speaker 2: were finally gonna pull the trigger?

658
00:31:50,616 --> 00:31:53,696
Speaker 7: I didn't think that they would, but I remember seeing

659
00:31:53,776 --> 00:31:56,936
Speaker 7: him on the board like and it was getting close

660
00:31:56,976 --> 00:31:58,736
Speaker 7: to Green Bay pick, and I was like, take him,

661
00:31:58,736 --> 00:32:01,496
Speaker 7: please take him. I got a chance to work with

662
00:32:01,496 --> 00:32:05,296
Speaker 7: with Golden for the draft or for the combine, so

663
00:32:05,616 --> 00:32:09,416
Speaker 7: like his agent and me, best friends, best friend, best

664
00:32:09,416 --> 00:32:13,016
Speaker 7: man in my wedding, I'm best legitimate legit. Yeah yeah,

665
00:32:13,136 --> 00:32:16,016
Speaker 7: Ed Barry incredible story. We can get to that too.

666
00:32:16,816 --> 00:32:19,136
Speaker 7: But uh, he asked me if I could work with

667
00:32:19,256 --> 00:32:21,776
Speaker 7: him like excellent x's and o's like leading up to

668
00:32:21,856 --> 00:32:24,496
Speaker 7: the to the combine, because that's a huge part of

669
00:32:24,536 --> 00:32:27,216
Speaker 7: the combine, being able to talk about ball, being able

670
00:32:27,256 --> 00:32:29,456
Speaker 7: to talk to x's and o's, so I got to

671
00:32:29,576 --> 00:32:31,776
Speaker 7: work with him a little bit and see his passion

672
00:32:31,896 --> 00:32:35,096
Speaker 7: and desire for the game and his thirst for knowledge

673
00:32:35,256 --> 00:32:38,736
Speaker 7: and wanting to grow, and like that is the perfect

674
00:32:38,816 --> 00:32:41,576
Speaker 7: fit in Green Bay. And one of the things that

675
00:32:41,696 --> 00:32:44,096
Speaker 7: I continue to try to reach out to him and

676
00:32:44,376 --> 00:32:47,456
Speaker 7: mentor him as as much as I can with is

677
00:32:48,256 --> 00:32:50,936
Speaker 7: like not pressing because I feel like when I watch

678
00:32:51,056 --> 00:32:53,536
Speaker 7: him right now, it's like he wants to make a

679
00:32:53,576 --> 00:32:57,176
Speaker 7: play so bad. And you know, I think that there

680
00:32:57,296 --> 00:32:59,736
Speaker 7: is an expectation with him being the first round or

681
00:32:59,856 --> 00:33:02,336
Speaker 7: the first round pick that the Packers made that receiver

682
00:33:02,456 --> 00:33:04,696
Speaker 7: in a long time that he feels like he has

683
00:33:04,736 --> 00:33:07,816
Speaker 7: to live up to. But the special thing about Green

684
00:33:07,896 --> 00:33:10,736
Speaker 7: Bay is like that receiver room, there's always been so

685
00:33:10,856 --> 00:33:13,216
Speaker 7: many guys. They've done a great job. Duda's doting a

686
00:33:13,256 --> 00:33:15,456
Speaker 7: great job in the draft of bringing in guys and

687
00:33:15,576 --> 00:33:18,736
Speaker 7: it not being one person that has to do majority

688
00:33:18,776 --> 00:33:21,776
Speaker 7: of the work. Like Romeo Dobbs is a guy, okay,

689
00:33:21,976 --> 00:33:24,696
Speaker 7: like he he deserves a big bag and I'm sure

690
00:33:24,736 --> 00:33:26,936
Speaker 7: he's gonna get it at some point. Christian Watson, when

691
00:33:26,976 --> 00:33:28,616
Speaker 7: he gets healthy, is going to be a huge part.

692
00:33:30,336 --> 00:33:32,576
Speaker 7: Jayden Reid, I mean now that he's out you know,

693
00:33:32,776 --> 00:33:34,416
Speaker 7: he's it looks like he's going to be out for

694
00:33:34,896 --> 00:33:37,176
Speaker 7: a while. There's a collar bone. I would imagine that

695
00:33:37,296 --> 00:33:39,016
Speaker 7: this is going to be Golden's time to get a

696
00:33:39,056 --> 00:33:41,296
Speaker 7: few more targets and be able to showcase what he

697
00:33:41,376 --> 00:33:41,576
Speaker 7: can do.

698
00:33:42,016 --> 00:33:48,416
Speaker 6: Did you ever jump with Rogers Cadence, Yes, yes, for sure,

699
00:33:48,456 --> 00:33:53,856
Speaker 6: because you're definitely farther than alignment, and I mean just physics,

700
00:33:54,176 --> 00:33:55,976
Speaker 6: you're not gonna get it as loud. But god, dang,

701
00:33:56,056 --> 00:33:57,856
Speaker 6: that is a tough even watching him now, he's still

702
00:33:57,896 --> 00:33:59,736
Speaker 6: got it. I was still pulling people off. Did you

703
00:33:59,816 --> 00:34:01,176
Speaker 6: have to go and be like, don't jump, don't jump,

704
00:34:01,176 --> 00:34:03,336
Speaker 6: don't jump and still with flinch.

705
00:34:03,616 --> 00:34:03,816
Speaker 3: Yeah.

706
00:34:03,936 --> 00:34:07,496
Speaker 7: So it's a funny play. And I actually saw one

707
00:34:07,536 --> 00:34:09,056
Speaker 7: of the tight end I think it was Tucker Kraft.

708
00:34:09,136 --> 00:34:13,856
Speaker 7: He did it the other day against Washington. I did

709
00:34:13,936 --> 00:34:17,376
Speaker 7: that once against Washington in like twenty one. He did

710
00:34:17,456 --> 00:34:24,456
Speaker 7: his kidence. I tried to fake like they got before it.

711
00:34:24,816 --> 00:34:28,056
Speaker 4: Yeah, emotionally, we used to act like we used.

712
00:34:27,976 --> 00:34:29,736
Speaker 7: To act like we you know, if we would jump,

713
00:34:29,776 --> 00:34:31,816
Speaker 7: we like we were, you know, fixing our knee pads

714
00:34:31,896 --> 00:34:32,816
Speaker 7: or something like that.

715
00:34:32,936 --> 00:34:33,456
Speaker 5: Never worked.

716
00:34:33,856 --> 00:34:36,496
Speaker 7: It did sometimes you could get away with it as

717
00:34:36,576 --> 00:34:39,296
Speaker 7: long as you don't like over the top, and then

718
00:34:39,376 --> 00:34:41,536
Speaker 7: like start looking around like you might be able to

719
00:34:41,576 --> 00:34:43,056
Speaker 7: pull it off and get away with it.

720
00:34:43,136 --> 00:34:43,656
Speaker 4: That's funny.

721
00:34:43,696 --> 00:34:46,216
Speaker 2: I've messed myself up before where I'm going double kittings

722
00:34:46,456 --> 00:34:48,776
Speaker 2: and I go really hard and I forgot that, hey,

723
00:34:48,856 --> 00:34:51,296
Speaker 2: we're doing double kates. I'll step back. They called me

724
00:34:51,536 --> 00:34:53,896
Speaker 2: for a false start because I stepped and moved. Yeah,

725
00:34:53,896 --> 00:34:57,776
Speaker 2: because I moved, I can't motion or if you're to yeah,

726
00:34:57,816 --> 00:35:00,136
Speaker 2: your hands and do that. But I also remember when

727
00:35:00,136 --> 00:35:02,216
Speaker 2: you guys would go like the silent countsl I mean

728
00:35:02,296 --> 00:35:04,656
Speaker 2: he lift his foot up fifteen times to try to

729
00:35:04,656 --> 00:35:05,216
Speaker 2: get defensive.

730
00:35:05,416 --> 00:35:07,216
Speaker 4: Oh, and I'm like, how the hell does anybody know

731
00:35:07,336 --> 00:35:08,616
Speaker 4: that you guys are live on cadence.

732
00:35:08,856 --> 00:35:11,776
Speaker 7: I don't understand how like teams could get a good

733
00:35:11,816 --> 00:35:13,816
Speaker 7: jump on it, because we would we would have so

734
00:35:13,936 --> 00:35:17,816
Speaker 7: many cadences. We would have so many silent cadences thirty

735
00:35:17,856 --> 00:35:20,776
Speaker 7: two twenty one, like two fake kicks coming on the

736
00:35:20,856 --> 00:35:23,256
Speaker 7: third one, Like there was so many of those. We

737
00:35:23,336 --> 00:35:26,056
Speaker 7: would go on different colors. It might be green, Blue

738
00:35:26,136 --> 00:35:28,016
Speaker 7: might be the live color. It might be purple, it

739
00:35:28,096 --> 00:35:30,536
Speaker 7: might be yellow. You just like I don't understand, like

740
00:35:30,776 --> 00:35:34,016
Speaker 7: how anyone. And I think that's one thing that is

741
00:35:34,136 --> 00:35:37,376
Speaker 7: really tough when you go to a new team that

742
00:35:37,496 --> 00:35:41,216
Speaker 7: you haven't had that consistency to play with, like for

743
00:35:41,416 --> 00:35:44,296
Speaker 7: offensive line to try because I mean, he's used that

744
00:35:44,416 --> 00:35:47,056
Speaker 7: as a as a benefit to him for so many

745
00:35:47,136 --> 00:35:50,416
Speaker 7: years because you know, obviously been in Green Bay so long,

746
00:35:50,536 --> 00:35:53,496
Speaker 7: most of his offensive line was always the same. So

747
00:35:53,776 --> 00:35:55,256
Speaker 7: that was that was one of the things with the

748
00:35:55,336 --> 00:35:57,496
Speaker 7: Jets that was a little more difficult, and I would

749
00:35:57,536 --> 00:35:59,736
Speaker 7: assume that it probably is in Pittsburgh as well.

750
00:35:59,976 --> 00:36:02,336
Speaker 6: Something you mentioned is the amount of time that you

751
00:36:02,416 --> 00:36:06,096
Speaker 6: and Rodgers played together after that many years, were there

752
00:36:06,176 --> 00:36:08,656
Speaker 6: times where you didn't even have to say anything.

753
00:36:08,736 --> 00:36:11,576
Speaker 5: You could just make the look or the gesture and

754
00:36:12,376 --> 00:36:13,576
Speaker 5: just know what each other meant.

755
00:36:14,856 --> 00:36:17,216
Speaker 7: Yeah, So there were a lot of cases of that,

756
00:36:17,576 --> 00:36:20,536
Speaker 7: Like when you know, if you're giving a signal to

757
00:36:20,616 --> 00:36:22,856
Speaker 7: someone like you might want to be over the top

758
00:36:22,976 --> 00:36:25,496
Speaker 7: with it right like to make sure they got it well.

759
00:36:25,656 --> 00:36:27,216
Speaker 7: It would come to the point to where like he

760
00:36:27,256 --> 00:36:29,256
Speaker 7: wouldn't have to look at me, he could just like

761
00:36:29,376 --> 00:36:32,176
Speaker 7: give the signal without looking, and I knew like what

762
00:36:32,336 --> 00:36:35,256
Speaker 7: the adjustment was, what the what the route he was

763
00:36:35,256 --> 00:36:35,776
Speaker 7: trying to get to.

764
00:36:35,976 --> 00:36:37,736
Speaker 2: Us, so you guys had to do some things off

765
00:36:37,776 --> 00:36:39,096
Speaker 2: the field. I know one of the things that you

766
00:36:39,136 --> 00:36:42,256
Speaker 2: guys did was go to Kentucky Derby because we would

767
00:36:42,296 --> 00:36:44,216
Speaker 2: go with our crew, right, yes, and we go the

768
00:36:44,296 --> 00:36:46,656
Speaker 2: same parties. We go to the Barnstable Brown parties. And

769
00:36:47,016 --> 00:36:48,856
Speaker 2: it always felt like we're kind of sizing each other

770
00:36:48,976 --> 00:36:50,976
Speaker 2: up because there's like the Green Bay Packers and we

771
00:36:51,096 --> 00:36:53,256
Speaker 2: had like all the Patriots guys, but we're.

772
00:36:53,056 --> 00:36:54,176
Speaker 4: Always on the same row.

773
00:36:54,536 --> 00:36:57,256
Speaker 2: What were those experiences like from like a team building

774
00:36:57,296 --> 00:36:58,896
Speaker 2: because you guys look like you're having fun, but that's

775
00:36:58,936 --> 00:37:00,056
Speaker 2: a great environment, it is.

776
00:37:00,216 --> 00:37:01,016
Speaker 7: It was a lot of fun.

777
00:37:01,096 --> 00:37:01,256
Speaker 2: You know.

778
00:37:01,336 --> 00:37:03,296
Speaker 7: We always looked at y'all with envy because you know,

779
00:37:03,416 --> 00:37:06,136
Speaker 7: y'all flashing your rings and doing the whole thing, and

780
00:37:06,256 --> 00:37:08,896
Speaker 7: we bring the boom box out, bring the boom box.

781
00:37:09,976 --> 00:37:12,056
Speaker 7: It was always a good time. We always had a group,

782
00:37:12,176 --> 00:37:15,616
Speaker 7: good group of guys. And uh, you know that we're

783
00:37:15,616 --> 00:37:18,016
Speaker 7: getting a little older. It's kind of turned into a

784
00:37:18,256 --> 00:37:21,856
Speaker 7: retirement get together. You know, it's a few guys are

785
00:37:21,856 --> 00:37:23,576
Speaker 7: still playing, but it's like, you know, we go back

786
00:37:23,576 --> 00:37:25,376
Speaker 7: into the old war stories and get to spend some

787
00:37:25,456 --> 00:37:26,816
Speaker 7: time together catch up.

788
00:37:27,296 --> 00:37:29,616
Speaker 6: Tell me about the one hundred and eight yard return.

789
00:37:29,656 --> 00:37:32,376
Speaker 6: I think it was your rookie year. It pops up

790
00:37:32,416 --> 00:37:34,896
Speaker 6: occasionally on my TikTok. I think it's still the record

791
00:37:35,016 --> 00:37:38,016
Speaker 6: or one of the longest returns ever. Do you remember

792
00:37:38,056 --> 00:37:39,416
Speaker 6: anything specifically about that play.

793
00:37:41,176 --> 00:37:43,176
Speaker 7: I don't remember being that deep.

794
00:37:43,776 --> 00:37:46,736
Speaker 2: I didn't know that I was that deep because your

795
00:37:46,776 --> 00:37:48,536
Speaker 2: coach was going, don't bring it out, don't bring it

796
00:37:48,576 --> 00:37:49,136
Speaker 2: out because.

797
00:37:48,936 --> 00:37:50,216
Speaker 5: You wouldn't have brought it out if you knew where

798
00:37:50,216 --> 00:37:50,376
Speaker 5: you were.

799
00:37:50,416 --> 00:37:51,776
Speaker 7: If I would, yeah, if I would have known where

800
00:37:51,776 --> 00:37:54,096
Speaker 7: I was, I wouldn't have brought it out. But I

801
00:37:54,136 --> 00:37:55,776
Speaker 7: wish they would have gave me the one o nine.

802
00:37:56,096 --> 00:37:57,656
Speaker 7: I mean, my they went off my front.

803
00:37:57,816 --> 00:37:58,896
Speaker 5: Do you feel like it's one on nine?

804
00:37:58,936 --> 00:38:00,336
Speaker 7: It should have been one o nine. I think my

805
00:38:00,416 --> 00:38:04,056
Speaker 7: back foot was like almost touching out of bounce, you know, so, uh,

806
00:38:04,176 --> 00:38:06,616
Speaker 7: but it was went O Waight tied the record at

807
00:38:06,656 --> 00:38:11,736
Speaker 7: the time. It's since been broken. But yeah, that play was.

808
00:38:12,336 --> 00:38:15,016
Speaker 7: It was crazy. I just saw a free runner coming

809
00:38:15,456 --> 00:38:18,176
Speaker 7: I was able to make him miss. I saw someone

810
00:38:18,216 --> 00:38:20,176
Speaker 7: getting ready to hit me, and I just like tensed up,

811
00:38:20,696 --> 00:38:23,296
Speaker 7: and luckily John Coon was there to like hold me

812
00:38:23,456 --> 00:38:26,216
Speaker 7: up and push me forward. And then I just saw

813
00:38:26,336 --> 00:38:28,496
Speaker 7: green grass and I was trying to get home.

814
00:38:28,696 --> 00:38:32,296
Speaker 4: Man, what's that feel like to run and just feel like, yeah,

815
00:38:32,456 --> 00:38:33,296
Speaker 4: what's it feel like? Run?

816
00:38:34,016 --> 00:38:34,056
Speaker 2: Like?

817
00:38:34,136 --> 00:38:35,936
Speaker 4: When do you look up at the scorebar?

818
00:38:35,976 --> 00:38:37,056
Speaker 2: Are you one of those guys that look up at

819
00:38:37,056 --> 00:38:39,056
Speaker 2: scorebhere like, oh my god, I'm out?

820
00:38:39,416 --> 00:38:43,216
Speaker 7: Like No, I've always I've always thought I was fast,

821
00:38:43,296 --> 00:38:45,016
Speaker 7: but I never thought I was like that fast. So

822
00:38:45,056 --> 00:38:48,136
Speaker 7: I'm always like looking back like there's somebody here, like

823
00:38:48,816 --> 00:38:51,056
Speaker 7: I'm getting ready to get caught. But that was a

824
00:38:51,096 --> 00:38:51,616
Speaker 7: special one.

825
00:38:51,816 --> 00:38:55,576
Speaker 4: Would you prefer kickoff or punt? I have my own

826
00:38:55,616 --> 00:38:57,376
Speaker 4: feeling on it, but I want to hear what you'd say.

827
00:38:57,536 --> 00:38:58,376
Speaker 7: I love punt more.

828
00:38:58,616 --> 00:39:01,416
Speaker 4: Do you really I would have done the complete opposite direction.

829
00:39:01,776 --> 00:39:03,256
Speaker 5: Feels vulnerable. Vulnerable?

830
00:39:03,496 --> 00:39:05,296
Speaker 7: No, I can if you look up, I can still

831
00:39:05,496 --> 00:39:08,176
Speaker 7: see you. I can still see you, know I can.

832
00:39:08,376 --> 00:39:11,856
Speaker 7: I can still see what's going on down there, and

833
00:39:11,976 --> 00:39:15,856
Speaker 7: I can control that. And I again, I'm I'm very

834
00:39:15,936 --> 00:39:18,815
Speaker 7: analytical when it came to the game. I would line

835
00:39:18,896 --> 00:39:22,296
Speaker 7: up at if the punter's average was forty five, I

836
00:39:22,336 --> 00:39:24,816
Speaker 7: would line up at forty six, and that would tell

837
00:39:24,936 --> 00:39:27,056
Speaker 7: me like, hey, if he kicks it over my head,

838
00:39:27,256 --> 00:39:29,856
Speaker 7: I should have space. If I have to run forward,

839
00:39:29,936 --> 00:39:32,136
Speaker 7: it's probably gonna be a fair catch. So that's how

840
00:39:32,216 --> 00:39:34,696
Speaker 7: I operated. So it was a lot easier to control

841
00:39:35,016 --> 00:39:38,336
Speaker 7: the environment as a punt returner, whereas a kickoff returner

842
00:39:38,896 --> 00:39:42,136
Speaker 7: you are running full speed through a little bitty gap

843
00:39:42,336 --> 00:39:44,856
Speaker 7: and hoping it doesn't close up. And I've taken some

844
00:39:45,216 --> 00:39:49,656
Speaker 7: shots on kickoff, so like I'm I'm a big component

845
00:39:49,736 --> 00:39:50,416
Speaker 7: for punting.

846
00:39:50,216 --> 00:39:52,616
Speaker 4: But catching a punt's got to be much more difficult

847
00:39:52,656 --> 00:39:53,296
Speaker 4: than the kickoff.

848
00:39:54,736 --> 00:39:58,496
Speaker 7: I would say, not because it's a spiral. Yeah, it's

849
00:39:58,496 --> 00:39:58,976
Speaker 7: a spiral.

850
00:39:59,016 --> 00:40:03,936
Speaker 5: It's just like it's just like you run fast. What

851
00:40:03,976 --> 00:40:05,096
Speaker 5: do you think? It's a new kickoff role.

852
00:40:05,616 --> 00:40:07,336
Speaker 7: I love it. I love the I love that it

853
00:40:07,376 --> 00:40:10,416
Speaker 7: brings to that part of the game back Like we've

854
00:40:10,536 --> 00:40:12,976
Speaker 7: how many kickoff or terms have we seen for touchdowns already?

855
00:40:12,976 --> 00:40:13,016
Speaker 3: This?

856
00:40:13,096 --> 00:40:14,816
Speaker 5: Yeah, it's not just to play this workless anymore.

857
00:40:14,936 --> 00:40:17,216
Speaker 6: Yes, Yeah, even if it's not a touchdown like you're saying,

858
00:40:17,216 --> 00:40:18,776
Speaker 6: I'm brought out to the forty two, the forty nine,

859
00:40:18,856 --> 00:40:21,576
Speaker 6: like it matters. And it used to just be okay,

860
00:40:21,696 --> 00:40:23,976
Speaker 6: we'll go for the kickoff, all right, another commercial break,

861
00:40:24,816 --> 00:40:27,816
Speaker 6: touch back, and now it does it actually factors into

862
00:40:27,856 --> 00:40:30,216
Speaker 6: the game, which it looks weird still, but I really

863
00:40:30,416 --> 00:40:31,176
Speaker 6: like the new kickoff.

864
00:40:31,296 --> 00:40:32,656
Speaker 7: Yeah, it does look really weird.

865
00:40:33,496 --> 00:40:33,616
Speaker 3: You know.

866
00:40:33,656 --> 00:40:36,456
Speaker 7: I think that's the NFL, you know, putting their band

867
00:40:36,456 --> 00:40:38,856
Speaker 7: aid on things of trying to make the game look safer.

868
00:40:39,096 --> 00:40:41,136
Speaker 7: Like I think, I feel like there's only so much

869
00:40:41,176 --> 00:40:42,816
Speaker 7: you can do to make that game safer. I mean,

870
00:40:44,016 --> 00:40:45,336
Speaker 7: it is what it is. When it comes to that,

871
00:40:45,376 --> 00:40:47,296
Speaker 7: they want to make the game safer, let's let's take

872
00:40:47,456 --> 00:40:47,936
Speaker 7: turf out.

873
00:40:48,056 --> 00:41:06,096
Speaker 3: But yeah, I mean we're going to do there. Now,

874
00:41:06,256 --> 00:41:07,576
Speaker 3: you were out in LA.

875
00:41:07,816 --> 00:41:09,896
Speaker 2: You said last week you were on Good Morning Football

876
00:41:09,896 --> 00:41:11,176
Speaker 2: and tell us to talk to us about what you

877
00:41:11,216 --> 00:41:11,736
Speaker 2: were promoting.

878
00:41:12,496 --> 00:41:15,616
Speaker 7: Yes, special Forces, I'm on the Fox show, on the show.

879
00:41:15,976 --> 00:41:16,616
Speaker 4: Did the show.

880
00:41:16,696 --> 00:41:19,336
Speaker 7: I did the show, so I got the show. You

881
00:41:19,376 --> 00:41:19,736
Speaker 7: should do it.

882
00:41:19,776 --> 00:41:20,456
Speaker 5: I'm not doing the show.

883
00:41:20,456 --> 00:41:20,856
Speaker 7: You should do it.

884
00:41:20,936 --> 00:41:21,656
Speaker 5: I'm not doing the show.

885
00:41:21,776 --> 00:41:22,856
Speaker 6: No, no, I'm not even saying that. But I have

886
00:41:22,896 --> 00:41:25,376
Speaker 6: friends that have done it and they're like, dude, it's hard, yes,

887
00:41:25,496 --> 00:41:29,256
Speaker 6: but you it was hard for you, Uh, the physical

888
00:41:29,376 --> 00:41:30,616
Speaker 6: part not as much.

889
00:41:31,416 --> 00:41:33,416
Speaker 7: It was it was demanding. It was a lot. But

890
00:41:33,816 --> 00:41:36,736
Speaker 7: at the same time, you have real housewives and you know,

891
00:41:36,896 --> 00:41:37,736
Speaker 7: influencers there.

892
00:41:38,616 --> 00:41:39,256
Speaker 4: Jesse did it.

893
00:41:39,536 --> 00:41:44,856
Speaker 7: Yes, Andrew, Yes, so we we It was seven of

894
00:41:44,976 --> 00:41:46,256
Speaker 7: us that live here in Nashville.

895
00:41:46,576 --> 00:41:48,016
Speaker 4: There's seven people, seven.

896
00:41:47,816 --> 00:41:50,976
Speaker 7: People from Nashville that were on the show Where'd You Go?

897
00:41:51,576 --> 00:41:56,336
Speaker 7: We were in Morocco. Beautiful, we were, I mean as

898
00:41:56,376 --> 00:41:59,296
Speaker 7: beautiful as it could be for for what we were doing.

899
00:42:00,656 --> 00:42:04,776
Speaker 7: But it was one of the most incredible experiences that

900
00:42:04,896 --> 00:42:05,656
Speaker 7: I've ever done.

901
00:42:06,256 --> 00:42:06,376
Speaker 4: Uh.

902
00:42:06,656 --> 00:42:10,216
Speaker 7: It gave me a greater appreciation for, uh, the military.

903
00:42:11,336 --> 00:42:14,296
Speaker 7: I've always had a tremendous amount of respect for the

904
00:42:14,416 --> 00:42:17,656
Speaker 7: sacrifices that they make. But to be able to live

905
00:42:17,736 --> 00:42:23,496
Speaker 7: it day after day after day, to be on edge,

906
00:42:23,896 --> 00:42:25,976
Speaker 7: and the feeling that you would have that you you

907
00:42:26,136 --> 00:42:29,376
Speaker 7: can't you can't relax at any moment because.

908
00:42:29,216 --> 00:42:31,176
Speaker 6: Would they got they call you any time, or they

909
00:42:31,216 --> 00:42:32,616
Speaker 6: could just make something happening they could make.

910
00:42:32,616 --> 00:42:34,256
Speaker 7: Yeah, they could, they could. They could call you at

911
00:42:34,256 --> 00:42:38,136
Speaker 7: any moment, and you would have to be on the

912
00:42:38,176 --> 00:42:41,296
Speaker 7: parade square, you know, sometimes within two or three minutes.

913
00:42:41,656 --> 00:42:43,936
Speaker 7: So if you got too comfortable and you kicked your

914
00:42:43,976 --> 00:42:48,216
Speaker 7: boots off and you didn't fill up your water bottle, uh,

915
00:42:48,416 --> 00:42:52,176
Speaker 7: you didn't have your backpack packed to a certain weight, like,

916
00:42:52,576 --> 00:42:55,896
Speaker 7: there would be consequences.

917
00:42:55,216 --> 00:42:56,656
Speaker 4: For that like I got.

918
00:42:57,496 --> 00:43:01,856
Speaker 7: I got my whole water bottle and I can't even

919
00:43:01,856 --> 00:43:03,576
Speaker 7: remember the name of it, but I'm not supposed to

920
00:43:03,616 --> 00:43:06,176
Speaker 7: call a water bottle. I get in trouble that. But

921
00:43:06,536 --> 00:43:08,296
Speaker 7: you had to keep that full to the brim. If

922
00:43:08,336 --> 00:43:10,336
Speaker 7: it wasn't full to the brim, they would take it

923
00:43:10,376 --> 00:43:13,176
Speaker 7: out and pull it over your head you and then

924
00:43:13,176 --> 00:43:15,536
Speaker 7: you wouldn't have water. So it was like you you

925
00:43:15,816 --> 00:43:18,696
Speaker 7: had to make sure that you kept all your things prepared,

926
00:43:18,816 --> 00:43:22,816
Speaker 7: because that's just if if you're called out for a mission,

927
00:43:24,096 --> 00:43:26,816
Speaker 7: then you want to have every sip of water that

928
00:43:26,896 --> 00:43:29,056
Speaker 7: you can have because you don't know how long until

929
00:43:29,456 --> 00:43:32,456
Speaker 7: you're going to be back in a safe place with

930
00:43:32,536 --> 00:43:35,296
Speaker 7: safe water. So that was kind of we would go

931
00:43:35,376 --> 00:43:38,616
Speaker 7: through all these courses, but at the same time, you're

932
00:43:38,696 --> 00:43:42,696
Speaker 7: living the psychological life of what someone in that position

933
00:43:42,776 --> 00:43:46,016
Speaker 7: would How long were you gone? I can't tell you

934
00:43:46,136 --> 00:43:50,696
Speaker 7: how long I was on the show, gone like I was.

935
00:43:50,896 --> 00:43:55,096
Speaker 7: I was gone for two weeks, no contact with family.

936
00:43:55,856 --> 00:43:59,216
Speaker 7: They took our phone the day before we started. I

937
00:43:59,256 --> 00:44:00,256
Speaker 7: couldn't talk to my kids.

938
00:44:00,336 --> 00:44:02,656
Speaker 4: That has to be a psychological grind too, Yeah.

939
00:44:02,616 --> 00:44:04,936
Speaker 7: Yeah, I mean, which was great because you're walking into

940
00:44:04,976 --> 00:44:07,896
Speaker 7: a new environment with a bunch of people. You know,

941
00:44:08,096 --> 00:44:09,696
Speaker 7: some of us knew each other, but a bunch of

942
00:44:09,736 --> 00:44:13,376
Speaker 7: people that you don't know, eighteen contestants and you're learning

943
00:44:13,456 --> 00:44:16,376
Speaker 7: about each other in the moment, And it really took

944
00:44:16,496 --> 00:44:19,856
Speaker 7: me back to being a kid and having those moments

945
00:44:19,896 --> 00:44:23,776
Speaker 7: because you know, like now it's just you can ask

946
00:44:23,856 --> 00:44:27,856
Speaker 7: chat ChiPT about anything, right, So it's just it's different

947
00:44:28,336 --> 00:44:30,696
Speaker 7: meeting someone and getting to know them on a genuine

948
00:44:30,816 --> 00:44:34,096
Speaker 7: level and then after the fact going and reading about,

949
00:44:34,256 --> 00:44:35,616
Speaker 7: you know, what happened in their life.

950
00:44:35,776 --> 00:44:38,976
Speaker 2: Well, it was harder psychologically doing a to today football

951
00:44:39,056 --> 00:44:40,976
Speaker 2: camp or actually being on the.

952
00:44:41,056 --> 00:44:43,576
Speaker 7: Show, actually been on the show, really yes, because I

953
00:44:43,616 --> 00:44:47,176
Speaker 7: mean football's football. You know the expectation, you know what's coming.

954
00:44:47,536 --> 00:44:49,696
Speaker 7: And a funny story from the show is, you know,

955
00:44:50,016 --> 00:44:52,776
Speaker 7: sometimes you might have those two days or you may

956
00:44:52,856 --> 00:44:56,936
Speaker 7: have like that long hard walk through that you're going

957
00:44:57,016 --> 00:44:58,896
Speaker 7: to do later in the day that coach like gives

958
00:44:58,896 --> 00:45:01,056
Speaker 7: your bone, throws your bone. Well, I thought like our

959
00:45:01,136 --> 00:45:02,976
Speaker 7: DS was throwing us a bone one day. Come to

960
00:45:03,016 --> 00:45:05,016
Speaker 7: find out that was not the case, and I took

961
00:45:05,056 --> 00:45:06,696
Speaker 7: the bait and we all had to pay a punishment

962
00:45:06,776 --> 00:45:06,976
Speaker 7: for it.

963
00:45:07,096 --> 00:45:09,976
Speaker 5: So yeah, yeah, dang, are you happy you did it.

964
00:45:10,456 --> 00:45:12,096
Speaker 7: I am. I am well, I do ever ever do

965
00:45:12,176 --> 00:45:15,216
Speaker 7: it again? No, but I am happy that I did

966
00:45:15,256 --> 00:45:18,736
Speaker 7: it again. I thought that I was going to learn

967
00:45:18,816 --> 00:45:22,976
Speaker 7: something about myself, and I just found out that I'm

968
00:45:23,016 --> 00:45:27,136
Speaker 7: selfish to think that because it was about me finding

969
00:45:27,176 --> 00:45:29,616
Speaker 7: out what the men and women that serve our country

970
00:45:29,856 --> 00:45:32,216
Speaker 7: do for us to have the freedom to have this

971
00:45:32,336 --> 00:45:33,216
Speaker 7: conversation right now.

972
00:45:33,696 --> 00:45:34,416
Speaker 5: That's super cool.

973
00:45:34,936 --> 00:45:35,896
Speaker 4: That's really cool. Yeah.

974
00:45:37,056 --> 00:45:40,696
Speaker 6: My friend Jamielyn Spiars did it the year before and

975
00:45:40,816 --> 00:45:43,256
Speaker 6: she was like, hey, pretty is gonna call you?

976
00:45:43,896 --> 00:45:45,056
Speaker 5: And I had done that show.

977
00:45:45,176 --> 00:45:45,696
Speaker 4: I got to do it.

978
00:45:45,776 --> 00:45:47,976
Speaker 5: I did Dance on the Stars. I know Greg Jennings

979
00:45:47,976 --> 00:45:48,416
Speaker 5: a little bit.

980
00:45:48,336 --> 00:45:48,776
Speaker 4: Because he won.

981
00:45:49,296 --> 00:45:50,016
Speaker 7: It was the same year.

982
00:45:50,176 --> 00:45:51,656
Speaker 5: No, I did it after you because I want to

983
00:45:51,976 --> 00:45:54,056
Speaker 5: oh yeah, yeah, one one.

984
00:45:55,976 --> 00:45:56,136
Speaker 3: Yeah.

985
00:45:56,816 --> 00:45:59,456
Speaker 6: But Greg won as well, and so there's like a bond,

986
00:45:59,776 --> 00:46:02,016
Speaker 6: it's like trauma bonding of all the winners of that show.

987
00:46:02,136 --> 00:46:03,896
Speaker 5: Yes, that don't come from any background to dance.

988
00:46:04,336 --> 00:46:06,216
Speaker 6: And so immediately when I got on the show and

989
00:46:06,296 --> 00:46:07,776
Speaker 6: then I started doing pretty well, Greg we hit me

990
00:46:07,856 --> 00:46:08,216
Speaker 6: up on DM.

991
00:46:08,296 --> 00:46:10,736
Speaker 5: He was like, yo, like I'm proud.

992
00:46:10,776 --> 00:46:12,336
Speaker 6: We didn't even know each other, but he's like, I

993
00:46:12,416 --> 00:46:15,656
Speaker 6: know exactly what you're going through, and yeah, it's like

994
00:46:16,456 --> 00:46:19,536
Speaker 6: it's really weird and you feel like you're isolated, but

995
00:46:19,616 --> 00:46:21,216
Speaker 6: you come out with the people that you did it

996
00:46:21,296 --> 00:46:23,256
Speaker 6: with and it's not the same, but you're like you.

997
00:46:23,376 --> 00:46:24,016
Speaker 5: Know them better.

998
00:46:24,576 --> 00:46:27,256
Speaker 6: You've been through some crap together. And that's what that

999
00:46:27,376 --> 00:46:28,976
Speaker 6: show felt like a little bit too. But we were

1000
00:46:29,016 --> 00:46:30,056
Speaker 6: gone for like four months.

1001
00:46:30,136 --> 00:46:31,816
Speaker 7: Did you get to stay in a luxury hotel when

1002
00:46:31,856 --> 00:46:32,256
Speaker 7: you were doing that?

1003
00:46:32,296 --> 00:46:33,016
Speaker 5: I had to work, so no.

1004
00:46:33,096 --> 00:46:34,656
Speaker 6: I had to stay in a tiny apartment away from

1005
00:46:34,696 --> 00:46:36,936
Speaker 6: everybody else, next to a studio because I had to.

1006
00:46:36,936 --> 00:46:37,536
Speaker 5: Work every morning.

1007
00:46:37,736 --> 00:46:39,056
Speaker 4: You stayed in a tiny apartment?

1008
00:46:39,256 --> 00:46:42,416
Speaker 5: Yeah, no, tiny because I had to go live in

1009
00:46:42,416 --> 00:46:43,296
Speaker 5: a different part of the city.

1010
00:46:43,656 --> 00:46:45,736
Speaker 6: Nobody else on that show had to work while they

1011
00:46:45,776 --> 00:46:49,016
Speaker 6: were doing it, but me have limited I can't run fast,

1012
00:46:49,576 --> 00:46:50,496
Speaker 6: so I had to work.

1013
00:46:51,096 --> 00:46:52,536
Speaker 5: So I worked and I toured on the weekend.

1014
00:46:52,616 --> 00:46:53,816
Speaker 4: It was a lot.

1015
00:46:54,016 --> 00:46:55,816
Speaker 5: It was a lot. But what's Greg like as a dude?

1016
00:46:56,176 --> 00:46:56,896
Speaker 7: Greg was great?

1017
00:46:57,896 --> 00:46:58,216
Speaker 5: Older?

1018
00:46:59,176 --> 00:47:03,656
Speaker 7: He was so Greg was seven years older than me.

1019
00:47:05,856 --> 00:47:06,096
Speaker 5: Great.

1020
00:47:06,136 --> 00:47:08,536
Speaker 7: I learned so much from him. I learned so much

1021
00:47:08,576 --> 00:47:11,376
Speaker 7: watching him play, watching the way that he moved he

1022
00:47:11,496 --> 00:47:14,096
Speaker 7: ran routes, watching him as.

1023
00:47:14,016 --> 00:47:17,096
Speaker 4: A dad, like great dad great Minnesota.

1024
00:47:17,216 --> 00:47:22,616
Speaker 7: Yeah, great dad, Like he was. He was a role

1025
00:47:22,696 --> 00:47:25,096
Speaker 7: model for me. I don't know if he knows that

1026
00:47:25,256 --> 00:47:27,736
Speaker 7: or not, but I watched every movie he made, he

1027
00:47:27,856 --> 00:47:31,736
Speaker 7: walked into anywhere. I'm watching the way that he talks

1028
00:47:31,776 --> 00:47:35,976
Speaker 7: to people. I'm talking and watching the way that he operated.

1029
00:47:36,176 --> 00:47:40,616
Speaker 7: His football knowledge was through the roof. He he was great.

1030
00:47:41,056 --> 00:47:43,416
Speaker 5: That's that's cool. He's always been super cool to me. Yeah,

1031
00:47:43,696 --> 00:47:45,536
Speaker 5: well thanks for coming over, man, This has been awesome.

1032
00:47:46,336 --> 00:47:47,376
Speaker 5: Did you two never play together?

1033
00:47:47,696 --> 00:47:48,496
Speaker 4: We never played together.

1034
00:47:48,576 --> 00:47:52,136
Speaker 7: No, no cross across the theficial path.

1035
00:47:52,576 --> 00:47:54,616
Speaker 6: I saw you in a picture of his I don't know,

1036
00:47:54,816 --> 00:47:56,816
Speaker 6: is it a school thing? And you were like, I

1037
00:47:56,936 --> 00:47:58,896
Speaker 6: mean here, you guys are both at the same school

1038
00:47:58,896 --> 00:47:59,416
Speaker 6: event or something.

1039
00:47:59,696 --> 00:48:00,416
Speaker 7: Throwing water.

1040
00:48:04,736 --> 00:48:08,056
Speaker 2: Got him good, so he was trying to scheme it

1041
00:48:08,176 --> 00:48:10,416
Speaker 2: up to get me back. So mad he had Decker

1042
00:48:10,496 --> 00:48:13,256
Speaker 2: try to come tackle me. I mean, I hate Clay

1043
00:48:13,336 --> 00:48:15,056
Speaker 2: Matthews in the chest and I thought he was going

1044
00:48:15,096 --> 00:48:15,856
Speaker 2: to straight kill me.

1045
00:48:15,976 --> 00:48:18,296
Speaker 4: He was so mad at me. Did you see what?

1046
00:48:18,616 --> 00:48:19,696
Speaker 7: Yeah, you were right there.

1047
00:48:19,776 --> 00:48:23,456
Speaker 4: Yeah he was so mad, But I just that was That's.

1048
00:48:23,376 --> 00:48:25,296
Speaker 2: One of my joys is to go to that outdoor

1049
00:48:25,416 --> 00:48:27,736
Speaker 2: field day and I get these water balloons and anybody

1050
00:48:27,776 --> 00:48:30,296
Speaker 2: that doesn't expect it to come.

1051
00:48:30,496 --> 00:48:33,536
Speaker 4: I mean I crushed newcomers too, so Cob came out there.

1052
00:48:36,496 --> 00:48:39,776
Speaker 7: It's been great. Yeah, it's been great. I love you know,

1053
00:48:39,936 --> 00:48:42,536
Speaker 7: just the community. Uh, just like you said, just the

1054
00:48:42,816 --> 00:48:44,736
Speaker 7: school that we at. We have a lot of families

1055
00:48:45,296 --> 00:48:50,456
Speaker 7: with similar backgrounds and understanding of life. And it's been fun.

1056
00:48:50,576 --> 00:48:53,096
Speaker 7: I've enjoyed and my kids are thriving here.

1057
00:48:53,256 --> 00:48:53,696
Speaker 4: They love it.

1058
00:48:53,776 --> 00:48:56,136
Speaker 7: They this is the first place that they've been for

1059
00:48:56,456 --> 00:48:58,816
Speaker 7: a calendar year in school, so they've enjoyed.

1060
00:48:58,856 --> 00:49:01,376
Speaker 4: That. Isn't that wild? Yes, Like when they finally get

1061
00:49:01,416 --> 00:49:03,296
Speaker 4: somewhere and you're like, when do we meet it? Moving?

1062
00:49:03,456 --> 00:49:05,736
Speaker 4: Where are we going next? You're like, no, there's is home.

1063
00:49:05,856 --> 00:49:06,216
Speaker 4: This is it.

1064
00:49:06,376 --> 00:49:07,056
Speaker 7: This is where we are.

1065
00:49:07,696 --> 00:49:09,616
Speaker 5: You said you played tennis, not pick a ball. You're

1066
00:49:09,616 --> 00:49:10,256
Speaker 5: a tennis player.

1067
00:49:10,936 --> 00:49:13,176
Speaker 7: I just got in. My wife got into it and

1068
00:49:14,536 --> 00:49:17,056
Speaker 7: I like got into it with her, and I was like, oh,

1069
00:49:17,096 --> 00:49:21,536
Speaker 7: that's kind of fun. We actually played in a mixed

1070
00:49:21,576 --> 00:49:25,256
Speaker 7: doubles match and like, you know me, I'm thinking rolled

1071
00:49:25,256 --> 00:49:27,496
Speaker 7: the ball out there. It doesn't matter what the sport is. Like,

1072
00:49:27,576 --> 00:49:30,016
Speaker 7: we're getting ready to go, you know. No, we got

1073
00:49:30,256 --> 00:49:34,296
Speaker 7: drilled we got drilled. I was like, okay, give me

1074
00:49:34,336 --> 00:49:34,855
Speaker 7: five years.

1075
00:49:34,976 --> 00:49:37,736
Speaker 6: Okay, yeah, Randall, good to see you man, Thank you

1076
00:49:37,816 --> 00:49:41,296
Speaker 6: so much. All right, thanks to Randall Copp for coming in.

1077
00:49:41,896 --> 00:49:45,216
Speaker 6: That's Matt Castle, that's kick Off Kevin, that's Brandon Ray.

1078
00:49:45,616 --> 00:49:47,976
Speaker 6: I'm Bobby Bones. Thank you so much for watching it.

1079
00:49:48,016 --> 00:49:50,336
Speaker 6: If you don't mind, I guess the one asked. I

1080
00:49:50,376 --> 00:49:52,016
Speaker 6: don't ask for much, but I'll make this one ask

1081
00:49:52,696 --> 00:49:55,616
Speaker 6: if you enjoyed this episode. Maybe you're a Packer fan,

1082
00:49:56,416 --> 00:49:58,136
Speaker 6: maybe you're a Randall Copp fan, maybe you're just an

1083
00:49:58,216 --> 00:50:00,416
Speaker 6: NFL fan. You don't mind sharing this episode of your

1084
00:50:00,456 --> 00:50:02,496
Speaker 6: story being like, hey, here's a podcast you guys should

1085
00:50:02,536 --> 00:50:04,576
Speaker 6: check it out. NFL podcast That would help us a

1086
00:50:04,696 --> 00:50:07,096
Speaker 6: time because we depend on you guys and we'd like

1087
00:50:07,096 --> 00:50:07,656
Speaker 6: to keep doing it.

1088
00:50:07,776 --> 00:50:09,936
Speaker 5: So thank you. We will see you next week. We've

1089
00:50:10,016 --> 00:50:11,656
Speaker 5: had lots to say. Goodbye, everybody.

1090
00:50:16,976 --> 00:50:19,176
Speaker 1: Lots to say with Bobby Bones and Matt Castle. Is

1091
00:50:19,216 --> 00:50:22,776
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1092
00:50:22,816 --> 00:50:26,816
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