WEBVTT - Ep. 489: Struck by Lightning

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<v Speaker 1>There are three hundred billion strikes of lightning in the

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<v Speaker 1>atmosphere of planet Earth each year, equaling one hundred strikes

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<v Speaker 1>of lightning per second. And I've been long fascinated by

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<v Speaker 1>the display of power of natural systems, giant waves, raging rivers,

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<v Speaker 1>violent storms, but there is one that is the definition

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<v Speaker 1>of flashy. When it comes to natural stuff that happens,

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<v Speaker 1>the visual and auditory display of lightning's unhaltered power is unmatched.

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<v Speaker 1>It's mysterious, far beyond the control of man, yet almost

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<v Speaker 1>fully understood by science, predictable to a degree, inflicting instantaneous

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<v Speaker 1>and oddly specific justice on whatever it strikes. All the

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<v Speaker 1>while it's motivation, meaning why it strikes and where it does,

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<v Speaker 1>is completely untrackable. Therein lies man's timeless fascination and fear

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<v Speaker 1>of lightning. We're going to hear two stories of people

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<v Speaker 1>struck by lightning, a hunter and a farmer, and it

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<v Speaker 1>will literally put the fear of God in you did meet,

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<v Speaker 1>and we're going to have a true nerd out talk

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<v Speaker 1>about lightning with a true weather man. I really doubt

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<v Speaker 1>that you're going to want to miss this one. My

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<v Speaker 1>name is Klay Nukelem, and this is the Bear Grease podcast,

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<v Speaker 1>where we'll explore things forgotten but relevant, search for insight

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<v Speaker 1>and unlikely places, and where we'll tell the story of

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<v Speaker 1>Americans who live their lives close to the land, presented

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<v Speaker 1>by FHF gear, American made us built hunting and fishing

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<v Speaker 1>gear that's designed to be as rugged as the place.

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<v Speaker 1>As we explore. On the morning of the third day,

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<v Speaker 1>there was thunder and lightning. A cloud covered the mountain.

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<v Speaker 1>All the people among the tents shook with fear. Mount

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<v Speaker 1>Sinai was all in smoke because the Lord came down

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<v Speaker 1>upon it in fire. Its smoke went up like the

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<v Speaker 1>smoke of a stove, and the whole mountain shook. Moses spoke,

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<v Speaker 1>and God answered him with thunder. Then the Lord came down.

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<v Speaker 1>That was an excerpt from the Book of Exodus. Only

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<v Speaker 1>in modern times, say the last three hundred years, has

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<v Speaker 1>a crack of lightning been simply and wholly viewed as

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<v Speaker 1>a science equation, the sum of a predictable sequence of

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<v Speaker 1>positive and negative charges in the clouds arcing to the

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<v Speaker 1>ground in a crack of thunder and lightning, fueled by

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<v Speaker 1>a billion jewels of energy. But is it just that

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<v Speaker 1>because it actually is just that it's science. But is

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<v Speaker 1>it more? Was it more back when humans were primitive

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<v Speaker 1>thinkers and were led around the nose by some irrational tomfoolery,

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<v Speaker 1>or could still today? A flash of lightning be a

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<v Speaker 1>window to something deeper, like a pop up advertisement on

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<v Speaker 1>Facebook connecting the rational world to that sovereign, invisible, mysterious

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<v Speaker 1>power source whose life pulsates on planet Earth that no

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<v Speaker 1>equation can understand. I guess it matters how you choose

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<v Speaker 1>to look at this thing. But don't get me wrong,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm here for the science, but my experience on this

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<v Speaker 1>planet has told me there's more. Like To introduce you

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<v Speaker 1>to a bear hunter.

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<v Speaker 2>My name is John Donovan, and back in September I

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<v Speaker 2>was hit by lightning by wall bear hunting. Little backstory

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<v Speaker 2>about the piece of property. I've been hunting it for

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<v Speaker 2>about four years now and pretty much been after this

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<v Speaker 2>bear for the three straight seasons and all off season.

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<v Speaker 2>I was prepping the area, getting it ready, and then

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<v Speaker 2>come opening day, no luck getting the bear. And then

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<v Speaker 2>it was September eighteenth. I got out of work and

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<v Speaker 2>got into the stand. I was right around one point

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<v Speaker 2>thirty two o'clock in the afternoon and there was a

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<v Speaker 2>weather cell pretty much in South Fayetteville, right over Greenland,

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<v Speaker 2>and I was paying attention to it, and I kind

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<v Speaker 2>of just felt an eerie feeling and there was a

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<v Speaker 2>wind shift out of nowhere. And I was actually texting

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<v Speaker 2>a buddy at the time, thinking, hey, can you check

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<v Speaker 2>the way a little bit more for me? And you know,

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<v Speaker 2>maybe it was it felt like ten minutes, but it

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<v Speaker 2>was probably only two minutes. I feel the wind shift again,

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<v Speaker 2>and I just had this eerie feeling, and I said

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<v Speaker 2>to myself, like, I think I should get down stand,

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<v Speaker 2>and probably fifty sixty yards behind me is this bluff.

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<v Speaker 2>And I was thinking, let me just ride out the storm.

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<v Speaker 2>I could tell it was probably gonna be a twenty

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<v Speaker 2>to thirty minute storm.

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<v Speaker 3>I'll get back up the.

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<v Speaker 2>Stand and hopefully the bear comes in.

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<v Speaker 3>So I this one stand my whole life.

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<v Speaker 2>I always wear a safety harness because my dad actually

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<v Speaker 2>fell thirty one feet out of a tree when I

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<v Speaker 2>was a kid, and really, you know, it was a

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<v Speaker 2>very scary time. He survived, thankfully, and so he harped

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<v Speaker 2>all childhood that always have a safety harness, and we

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<v Speaker 2>usually use the lifeline I think they're called, but this

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<v Speaker 2>one stand. I didn't have it, and I have to

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<v Speaker 2>get about ten to twelve feet up and then clip in.

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<v Speaker 1>We all know that eerie feeling of an approaching storm,

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<v Speaker 1>like John felt. It's an ancient one that's helped our

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<v Speaker 1>species survive. We also know the feeling of being in

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<v Speaker 1>cell range able to text, but not having good enough

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<v Speaker 1>service to get the radar on your weather app to

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<v Speaker 1>pull up. I was sitting in a tree that same day,

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<v Speaker 1>September eighteenth, twenty twenty five, about forty miles away from

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<v Speaker 1>John in Arkansas. He and I both heard rolling thunder

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<v Speaker 1>in the distance. A slight wind began to blow, the

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<v Speaker 1>sky darkened, and it felt like the sun was gonna set,

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<v Speaker 1>even though it was only mid afternoon. And when those

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<v Speaker 1>first drops of rain start to hit you, you get

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<v Speaker 1>the sense I've got to get out of here. Because

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<v Speaker 1>there's no square inch of planet Earth that's exempt from

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<v Speaker 1>potentially being struck. And thirty seven million lightning bolts strike

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<v Speaker 1>the United States each year. Rain, wind, and hail all

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<v Speaker 1>cover these large areas. Think about this like macro picture

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<v Speaker 1>of the places they cover. But it's the specificity of

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<v Speaker 1>lightning that makes it so unnerving. We've all been in

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<v Speaker 1>a thunderstorm, But how it picks out what and when

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<v Speaker 1>to strike is what makes it so unnerving. Two people

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<v Speaker 1>could be in a field and one struck and the

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<v Speaker 1>other left completely fine. But as it turns out, one

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<v Speaker 1>in six hundred thousand Americans will be struck by lightning.

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<v Speaker 1>You heard me right, from the stats that I have

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<v Speaker 1>found one in six hundred thousand, and that really seems

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<v Speaker 1>high to me. But if you think about it, I

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<v Speaker 1>bet you know someone or at least know of someone

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<v Speaker 1>who's been struck. But that statistic doesn't necessarily mean that

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<v Speaker 1>you personally have a one in six hundred thousand chance

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<v Speaker 1>of being struck, because people who spend a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>time outside have vastly higher odds of being struck than

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<v Speaker 1>someone who rarely goes out, and other factors play in

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<v Speaker 1>as well. As a matter of fact, if you're a man,

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<v Speaker 1>you have a four times more likely chance than a

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<v Speaker 1>woman to be struck by lightning, So the actual odds

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<v Speaker 1>are closer to one in a million that you'll be struck,

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<v Speaker 1>So you can rest easy. But John Donovan was one

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<v Speaker 1>of them. This storm that came up on him was

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<v Speaker 1>an isolated pop up shower and he thought it might

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<v Speaker 1>miss him, so he hung out in the tree and

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<v Speaker 1>he was after this big bear. He didn't want to

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<v Speaker 1>get down. He's fourteen feet up this metal tree stand.

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<v Speaker 1>As the front edge of the storm reaches him and

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<v Speaker 1>it starts to rain. He hears a clap of thunder

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<v Speaker 1>close and he knows that it's time to go.

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<v Speaker 2>So I get situated. I get about one to two

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<v Speaker 2>steps down, and then that's when I take the clip off,

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<v Speaker 2>and then all of a sudden, one more step down

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<v Speaker 2>and that's pretty much the last thing I remember until

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<v Speaker 2>I woke up. Just heard a loud noise and I

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<v Speaker 2>was out, and then don't really know exactly how long

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<v Speaker 2>I was out or not out for, and then I

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<v Speaker 2>just remember kind of waking up. And the only way

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<v Speaker 2>I can describe it is if you've ever seen like

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<v Speaker 2>a war movie where someone gets hit by a frag.

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<v Speaker 2>I was everything was a slow motion. I'm looking all

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<v Speaker 2>around and I just couldn't breathe couldn't, like, got the

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<v Speaker 2>wind knocked out of me. And then I'm just looking

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<v Speaker 2>all around and I just see stars and I just

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<v Speaker 2>had no idea what happened. And smelt like a weird smell,

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<v Speaker 2>but still didn't hit me on what actually happened. I

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<v Speaker 2>thought I slipped, and I've long hair, of course, so

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<v Speaker 2>my hat was all messed up and my hair was

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<v Speaker 2>all on my face and I lift my hand up

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<v Speaker 2>and something felt like it stabbed me in the forehead.

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<v Speaker 2>And that's when I was reaching for my phone, and

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<v Speaker 2>my phone was fried, but I was able to use

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<v Speaker 2>like the glare of the black screen, and I just

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<v Speaker 2>saw a welt, probably the size of a baseball. And

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<v Speaker 2>that's when I just started panicking because I knew something

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<v Speaker 2>bad happened. And again, still didn't even realize if I slipped,

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<v Speaker 2>if it was lightning, or what it was really, but

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<v Speaker 2>I just knew I had to get out of the woods.

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<v Speaker 2>Something was telling me, you have to get out now.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know what was gonna happen, to be honest,

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<v Speaker 2>So I start gathering, you know, my stuff, and my

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<v Speaker 2>bow was probably ten or so feet away from me.

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<v Speaker 2>So then I'm starting putting the clues together. I'm like,

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<v Speaker 2>I don't think I fell, because if I fell, how

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<v Speaker 2>did I get four feet away from the tree? How

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<v Speaker 2>did my bow get there? And that's when I started

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<v Speaker 2>realizing I'm pretty sure I just got hit by lightning,

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<v Speaker 2>or the tree I was in got hit by lightning.

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<v Speaker 1>It's odd to think that you'd be struck by lightning

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<v Speaker 1>and not know it, but it actually makes perfect sense,

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<v Speaker 1>as the electrical charge of lightning moves at two hundred

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<v Speaker 1>and twenty million miles per hour. That's two thirds the

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<v Speaker 1>speed of light, so it hits you before the sound

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<v Speaker 1>of thunder because it's traveling faster than the speed of sound.

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<v Speaker 1>So John is now laying bewildered on the ground a

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<v Speaker 1>wound on his head from smashing against the ground, presumably,

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<v Speaker 1>and his bow is lying several feet away. But we're

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<v Speaker 1>gonna leave him right there for now. And I'd like

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<v Speaker 1>to introduce you to another one in a million statistic.

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<v Speaker 1>He's also my neighbor and friend.

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<v Speaker 4>My name is Terrell Spencer, go by Spence. I own

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<v Speaker 4>across the Creek Farm pastored poultry farm in West Fork, Arkansas.

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<v Speaker 4>And I'm gonna talk about getting popped by lightning. So

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<v Speaker 4>I was moving birds. A guy called me to talk

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<v Speaker 4>about this decision I had, you know, and so we

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<v Speaker 4>we talked a little bit, and I got off my

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<v Speaker 4>tractor after talking to him and was hooking up chains

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<v Speaker 4>and I was just like, you know what, maybe everyone

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<v Speaker 4>else knows better than me. And I felt like like

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<v Speaker 4>I was really supposed to do something, and I'm just like,

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<v Speaker 4>I'm just gonna listen to everyone else are smarter than me.

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<v Speaker 4>And I was really frustrated. And so we have these

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<v Speaker 4>big structures are like twenty by forty. They're big, kind

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<v Speaker 4>of imagine a greenhouse on skids, and that's what our

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<v Speaker 4>hens are in. And I've got these two twenty foot

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<v Speaker 4>logging chains. I hook up onto that structure, one on

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<v Speaker 4>each side, and then I hook it up to my

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<v Speaker 4>tractor and I pull it. So we got a routine.

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<v Speaker 4>So I'm just kind of going through the motions. I

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<v Speaker 4>hook those logging chains up, you know, and I've got

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<v Speaker 4>like this rain slicker on, and I've got just this

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<v Speaker 4>it might be the same pantomwhare Now they're just absolutely soaked,

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<v Speaker 4>you know, my muck boots on, and uh, I'm feeding

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<v Speaker 4>the birds. So on the front of the tractor. After

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<v Speaker 4>I unhook the chains, there's buckets of feed. So I

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<v Speaker 4>get the buckets of feed. I'm gonna put you know,

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<v Speaker 4>three or four buckets feed in there, and I finish,

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<v Speaker 4>and I'm carrying the buckets out. I open up the door,

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<v Speaker 4>step out, shut the door, and I take a few steps,

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<v Speaker 4>and I'm still kind of grumbling about this thing that

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<v Speaker 4>I'm thinking on. I'm not even really paying attention to

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<v Speaker 4>what I'm doing. And then all of a sudden, like

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<v Speaker 4>out of the corner of my eye, like this pink

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<v Speaker 4>purple color happens, and everything just kind of like when

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<v Speaker 4>a movie fades, like you know, like in the end,

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<v Speaker 4>like everything kind of turns a color. It was like

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<v Speaker 4>everything started to turn that pink and and what is

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<v Speaker 4>It was probably a split second, but it felt like

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<v Speaker 4>a couple seconds, like I was like, wait, what's going on?

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<v Speaker 4>And then there was an explosion and yeah, and like

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<v Speaker 4>I'd been really close to explosions in the war, like

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<v Speaker 4>i'd been, you know, I'd been tossing around by some

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<v Speaker 4>rockets and that kind of stuff, and it was it

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<v Speaker 4>was just like that, you know, like when you get

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<v Speaker 4>hit so hard it feels like it knocks you out

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<v Speaker 4>of yourself.

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<v Speaker 1>Spence was in the United States Army and served in

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<v Speaker 1>the Iraq War in the early two thousands. He saw

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<v Speaker 1>some serious act of combat and know, not all of

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<v Speaker 1>us know what it feels like to get knocked out

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<v Speaker 1>of yourself. But whatever just happened to him, it was

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<v Speaker 1>kind of like what happened in the war. It doesn't

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<v Speaker 1>sound good, and you might ask how many people are

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<v Speaker 1>actually getting struck by lightning. According to the CDC, from

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<v Speaker 1>two thousand and six to twenty twenty five, there were

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<v Speaker 1>five hundred and seventeen lightning deaths in the United States,

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<v Speaker 1>adding up to twenty five deaths per year. In a

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<v Speaker 1>wider look at history, lightning deaths peaked in the nineteen forties,

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<v Speaker 1>when over four hundred Americans were killed in a single

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<v Speaker 1>year nineteen forty three. During that time, the government started

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<v Speaker 1>national marketing campaigns educating people about the danger of lightning.

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<v Speaker 1>This helped, and lightning deaths have decreased in the last

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<v Speaker 1>several decades since then, but clearly they aren't absent. As

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<v Speaker 1>a matter of fact, as I'm writing this podcast, a

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<v Speaker 1>fifteen year old boy was killed by lightning as he

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<v Speaker 1>sheltered his thirteen year old younger brother for lightning on

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<v Speaker 1>top of a Colorado mountain in late July. That's really

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<v Speaker 1>hard to understand, and our condolences go out to that family.

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<v Speaker 1>But the people who die are actually quite rare, because

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<v Speaker 1>ninety percent of people that are struck by lightning live.

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<v Speaker 1>On average, two hundred and seventy to three hundred people

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<v Speaker 1>are struck each year, and John and Spence clearly survived.

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<v Speaker 1>But what is lightning? I know? Just the guy to tell.

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<v Speaker 5>Us hello, This is Joshua Weisel with Weather T two

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<v Speaker 5>five tests us one two test us.

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<v Speaker 3>All right, we are rolling awesome. So introduction for who

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<v Speaker 3>I am.

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<v Speaker 5>My name is Joshua Weisel and this is my company

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<v Speaker 5>behind me.

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<v Speaker 3>Weather T two five.

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<v Speaker 5>I've been doing weather broadcasting since twenty fifteen and excited

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<v Speaker 5>to be here and talk about some lightning.

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<v Speaker 1>Josh is in his mid twenties and he's functionally a meteorologist.

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<v Speaker 1>He doesn't work for a TV station, nor has he

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<v Speaker 1>taken an established career route. I kind of view him

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<v Speaker 1>like a weather outlaw, operating outside the mainstream system and

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<v Speaker 1>absolutely obsessed with weather. He has his own streaming weather

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<v Speaker 1>service called Weather two two five, where he is the

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<v Speaker 1>chief weather analysis serving the four Corners area of Oklahoma, Missouri, Kansas,

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<v Speaker 1>and Arkansas. I think it's better than the Weather Channel,

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<v Speaker 1>and I like the passion of it.

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<v Speaker 5>So lightning is a phenomenon that obviously we have all encountered,

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<v Speaker 5>you know, for whatever reason in this part of the country.

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<v Speaker 5>I always laugh and tell people it's not that peaceful

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<v Speaker 5>you know overnight thunderstorm that you can sleep to, and

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<v Speaker 5>it's that peaceful rumble of thunder off in the distance.

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<v Speaker 5>It always sounds like a bomb goes off. And so

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<v Speaker 5>lightning is one of the more dangerous phenomenon with weather

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<v Speaker 5>because it doesn't just have to be severe weather to occur.

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<v Speaker 3>In order for lightning to occur, you.

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<v Speaker 5>Typically need the warm and humid, unstable environment that we

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<v Speaker 5>get here in the South, and that leads to taller storms.

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<v Speaker 5>And it may sound weird, but you need taller storms

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<v Speaker 5>in order for lightning to develop because aloft you get

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<v Speaker 5>frozen iceed particles and you get water particles and they

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<v Speaker 5>bounce around up in the updraft, and as they bounce around,

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<v Speaker 5>they're kind of exchanging the charges and they start to conflict.

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<v Speaker 5>So then you see the charges that they separate to

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<v Speaker 5>the top and the bottom of the storm. And so

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<v Speaker 5>you know, looking at how that works, negative charges go up,

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<v Speaker 5>positive charges go down, and that's how you get lightning

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<v Speaker 5>to start forming, is the charges. And again you need

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<v Speaker 5>more of an unstable and humid environment, So that's why

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<v Speaker 5>the South gets most of the lightning in terms of

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<v Speaker 5>statistical deaths and occurrences.

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<v Speaker 1>Lightning is the result of ice and water particles slashing

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<v Speaker 1>around in a cloud, creating an electrical charge, kind of

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<v Speaker 1>like a load of towels being tossed around in your

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<v Speaker 1>dryer creating static electricity that zaps you when you touch it.

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<v Speaker 1>The clouds are the towels, and your hand is the earth.

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<v Speaker 1>The positive charges go up and the negative charges go

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<v Speaker 1>down in the cloud, and then the positive charges on

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<v Speaker 1>the Earth's surface attract those low hanging negative charges, and

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<v Speaker 1>a bolt of lightning is born, kind of like an

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<v Speaker 1>unheard of before anecdote being birthed and born right out

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<v Speaker 1>of Brent Reeves's lips. And similar to his hot air,

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<v Speaker 1>lightning heats up the air to fifty four thousand degrees fahrenheit,

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<v Speaker 1>making it expand so quickly it creates a shockwave, a boot,

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<v Speaker 1>a flash of electromagnetic radiation. And as John said, the

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<v Speaker 1>South is the lightning capital of America. But Florida is

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<v Speaker 1>the lightning capital of all the states, with more deaths

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<v Speaker 1>than any other place, averaging between seven and ten per year.

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<v Speaker 1>But Texas has the most lightning strikes, with around thirteen

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<v Speaker 1>million striking annually, But Oklahoma, Oklahoma has the highest concentration

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<v Speaker 1>of lightning, with seventy three flashes per square mile annually.

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<v Speaker 1>To break that down the way it makes sense to me,

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<v Speaker 1>Florida has more people, so more people get killed. They've

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<v Speaker 1>also got a lot of ag in flat country. Texas

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<v Speaker 1>has the bigger geographic area, so it gets the most lightning.

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<v Speaker 1>But it sounds to me like Oklahoma actually has the

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<v Speaker 1>most lightning. And that's probably the reason that this song

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<v Speaker 1>was written in Oklahoma.

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<v Speaker 5>When we were sitting on the front porch where the

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<v Speaker 5>weather rolling.

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<v Speaker 3>In, laughing louder than the big South end.

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<v Speaker 5>He ran out to rule you, and the bladder ain't

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<v Speaker 5>falling in your hair. He's hand leg checkers from a

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<v Speaker 5>fool in chair country music in the kitchen, and hear

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<v Speaker 5>it singing through the screen.

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<v Speaker 3>Withather warns in.

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<v Speaker 1>Twin that's the Turnpike Troubadour's song a tornado warning. There's

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<v Speaker 1>no doubt the storm they wrote about had lightning in it.

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<v Speaker 1>But let's get back to John Donovan who wished he'd

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<v Speaker 1>had a weather warning. But remember he doesn't know what's

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<v Speaker 1>happened he's woken up on the ground after blacking out.

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<v Speaker 1>He's clearly falling out of his tree stand, and his

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<v Speaker 1>phone is fried and doesn't work.

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<v Speaker 2>So again these are all like I'm kind of falling

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<v Speaker 2>in and out of understanding where I was. But I

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<v Speaker 2>knew I had to get out because no one was

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<v Speaker 2>really going to be looking for me for probably, like

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<v Speaker 2>I said, I think it was three or three thirty

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<v Speaker 2>people had my location. But so I start gathering my

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<v Speaker 2>belongings and I'm roughly I call about three quarters of

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<v Speaker 2>a mile down this bluff, and my truck's parked up,

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<v Speaker 2>and I just start going up this hill and every

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<v Speaker 2>ten to twenty feet I'm falling down and I'm just

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<v Speaker 2>taking everything out of me to even walk. And I

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<v Speaker 2>got to the point where i would pick like a

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<v Speaker 2>rock or a tree, and I'm like, okay, I'm gonna

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<v Speaker 2>make it there, and I would get up and then

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<v Speaker 2>I'd start passing out. And then about halfway up is

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<v Speaker 2>when my whole left side started to not work. I

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<v Speaker 2>felt my arm going limp, I was holding my bag,

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<v Speaker 2>let go my bag, and my vision in my left

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<v Speaker 2>side just started getting all blurry. And it was the

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<v Speaker 2>same side where I hit my head, so that was

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<v Speaker 2>really really scaring me. And then again the timeframe, like

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<v Speaker 2>the minutes, the hours are still kind of fuzzy. I

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<v Speaker 2>know it happened roughly around three I got to my truck,

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<v Speaker 2>I want to say, around three fifty, right before four o'clock,

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<v Speaker 2>and couldn't connect my phone. My phone still wasn't working,

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<v Speaker 2>so I couldn't dial out or anything. So in my

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<v Speaker 2>mind my plan was, I need to get somewhere where

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<v Speaker 2>someone can find me. So my plan was to try

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<v Speaker 2>to safely crash or pull off into a ditch. By

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<v Speaker 2>seventy one and another like ten or so minutes that

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<v Speaker 2>I don't really remember. I must have taken my boots

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<v Speaker 2>off and my pants off, because when I ended up

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<v Speaker 2>getting to the hospital later, I was in my gym

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<v Speaker 2>shorts and a pair of like slides or something like

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<v Speaker 2>cheap sneakers or something I had, and I think subconsciously

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<v Speaker 2>I was making sure my feet were working because I

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<v Speaker 2>knew I had to use the the gas and breaks

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<v Speaker 2>in my truck.

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<v Speaker 3>So I still.

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<v Speaker 2>Don't really remember why I did that or what the

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<v Speaker 2>reason was. But and then so I finally get in

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<v Speaker 2>my truck, my phone's still not working, and it's trenchill

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<v Speaker 2>downpour now, and I keep just getting like these adrenaline

0:23:20.040 --> 0:23:22.840
<v Speaker 2>rushes of Okay, keep going, you can make it to

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<v Speaker 2>the next road. You can make it to the next road.

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<v Speaker 2>And then finally my phone connected to my truck, and

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<v Speaker 2>I see my little wife's face out of my right

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<v Speaker 2>eye on my recent call, so I just click it.

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<v Speaker 1>John barely remembers this stuff, and much of it came

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<v Speaker 1>to him days or even weeks later. It was like

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<v Speaker 1>the lightning took his consciousness and he was fading in

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<v Speaker 1>and out of it, trying to get back. Oddly. Terrell

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<v Speaker 1>Spencer had a similar experience back in the chicken pasture.

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<v Speaker 4>A lot of stuff happened, I think pretty fast. I

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<v Speaker 4>knew I'd been hit by light and everything was white

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<v Speaker 4>and I couldn't hear any like it was just like

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<v Speaker 4>a reset. And when I came to, I was kind

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<v Speaker 4>of looking over my body, and then there was like

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<v Speaker 4>all the stuff that I believe about, like faith and

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<v Speaker 4>meeting God and being judged. Like I can tell you

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<v Speaker 4>I believe that more now, like cause I feel like

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<v Speaker 4>I went through all that. You know, there's that whole

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<v Speaker 4>side of it. But I'm looking down at my body

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<v Speaker 4>in the rain, and there's smoke coming off of me.

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<v Speaker 4>There's like this blue haze. I don't know if you

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<v Speaker 4>ever like took like alcohol and put in your hand

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<v Speaker 4>lit it, and it had that kind of like haze

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<v Speaker 4>or hair spray, you know, when you're being just a

0:24:40.080 --> 0:24:43.480
<v Speaker 4>knuckleheaded teenager or whatever. And there's just like that flame

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<v Speaker 4>going over and it's like weird, like that was going up.

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<v Speaker 4>It was like this blue kind of haze that with

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<v Speaker 4>fire thing that was going up and down my body,

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<v Speaker 4>and then there was smoke coming up, which I think

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<v Speaker 4>it was probably just the water evaporating, and then it's

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<v Speaker 4>kind kind of like I went back into my body

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<v Speaker 4>and I don't know if I made that up that's

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<v Speaker 4>what really happened, but that's that's what I experienced. And

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<v Speaker 4>it was kind of the same like there's a couple

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<v Speaker 4>of times in the war where stuff like that would

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<v Speaker 4>happen and everything would slow down and you became hyper aware.

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<v Speaker 4>I knew i'd been hit by lightning, Like I didn't

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<v Speaker 4>see a lightning bolt or anything. I just it just

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<v Speaker 4>kind of like went pink the explosion, and then I

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<v Speaker 4>kind of came to and I heard, you know, hens

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<v Speaker 4>make all kinds of your chickens make all kinds of sounds,

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<v Speaker 4>you know, just like any farmer would know, like if

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<v Speaker 4>you farm cattle or hogs or whatever. Like they talked

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<v Speaker 4>to you and you can pick up on stuff. After

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<v Speaker 4>twenty years, I've never heard chickens make the sound that

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<v Speaker 4>they made then. It was the only way I can describe.

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<v Speaker 4>It was like pure terror.

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<v Speaker 1>Only a chicken farmer would get struck by lightning and

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<v Speaker 1>described with such passion always as he heard his hen

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<v Speaker 1>makes afterwards. But maybe that's why across the Creek Farms

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<v Speaker 1>chicken is so good, and you too could partake in

0:26:09.400 --> 0:26:12.919
<v Speaker 1>that chicken if you live in northwest Arkansas by ordering

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<v Speaker 1>at www dot acrossthecreekfarm dot com. For real, you could

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<v Speaker 1>order it from there. But chicken marketing is beside the

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<v Speaker 1>point here. It's about to get real serious, like real

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<v Speaker 1>serious back with Spence.

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<v Speaker 4>So I came to and I like knew that I

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<v Speaker 4>was dead and the war guys would get hit and

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<v Speaker 4>like you have a certain amount of adrenaline something like

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<v Speaker 4>all your insides will be messed up, but you can

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<v Speaker 4>go for you know, five twenty thirty seconds. You like

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<v Speaker 4>you got some time before you go. And so I was.

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<v Speaker 4>I was in that timeframe, like I knew I was

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<v Speaker 4>dead and I and the only thought I had was

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<v Speaker 4>and I can hear these hens screaming and everything kind

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<v Speaker 4>of like my senses came back. I couldn't move the

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<v Speaker 4>right side of my body because that's where the lightning

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<v Speaker 4>didn't hit me. Later on, like that, what we figured

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<v Speaker 4>out is it it probably hit like six inches away

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<v Speaker 4>or a foot away, but it hit in and it

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<v Speaker 4>came in my right side and my muck boot it

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<v Speaker 4>burned a hole through and then it went out my

0:27:22.720 --> 0:27:25.639
<v Speaker 4>left side, and so there was a hole in my

0:27:25.800 --> 0:27:29.000
<v Speaker 4>muck boot, you know, at the right below my toes

0:27:29.440 --> 0:27:33.639
<v Speaker 4>where it came in, and then there was like on

0:27:33.720 --> 0:27:36.480
<v Speaker 4>my left side it blew out skin and so there

0:27:36.520 --> 0:27:38.400
<v Speaker 4>was like grass in my boot where it came in,

0:27:38.720 --> 0:27:41.080
<v Speaker 4>and there was like a skin plug in a hole

0:27:41.119 --> 0:27:44.240
<v Speaker 4>where it went out. Yeah, and I guess it missed

0:27:44.240 --> 0:27:47.639
<v Speaker 4>my heart. Long story short, I lived. I don't and

0:27:47.680 --> 0:27:51.240
<v Speaker 4>I'm not trying to spoiler alert, but and the only

0:27:51.280 --> 0:27:53.239
<v Speaker 4>thing I could think of was, I don't know if

0:27:53.280 --> 0:27:56.160
<v Speaker 4>you've ever seen like a dead animal out in the rain,

0:27:56.440 --> 0:27:57.960
<v Speaker 4>Like I don't know if you kill a deer like

0:27:58.000 --> 0:28:00.159
<v Speaker 4>we see, you know, if chicken gets out, something kills it,

0:28:00.520 --> 0:28:04.399
<v Speaker 4>rains on just looks terrible. And for some reason, like

0:28:04.480 --> 0:28:09.000
<v Speaker 4>my whole focus was I didn't want my wife or

0:28:09.119 --> 0:28:13.679
<v Speaker 4>kids for that to be like how they found me,

0:28:13.920 --> 0:28:24.480
<v Speaker 4>just wet and dead. So I got up and I

0:28:24.520 --> 0:28:28.400
<v Speaker 4>stumbled over to the pen, and the hens are still screaming.

0:28:28.840 --> 0:28:33.159
<v Speaker 4>My hearing's coming back, my vision's back. Like when I

0:28:33.160 --> 0:28:36.200
<v Speaker 4>stood up, one side of my body kind of worked

0:28:36.240 --> 0:28:39.080
<v Speaker 4>like it felt like when your feet go numb. The

0:28:39.200 --> 0:28:42.520
<v Speaker 4>other side was just dead. And so like I kind

0:28:42.520 --> 0:28:44.640
<v Speaker 4>of stumbled back into the pen. I opened up the

0:28:44.640 --> 0:28:48.600
<v Speaker 4>door just because probably out of instinct, and around that door,

0:28:48.640 --> 0:28:51.520
<v Speaker 4>you know, it's a twenty by forty structure, and around

0:28:51.520 --> 0:28:53.960
<v Speaker 4>that door there was like an art a perfect circle

0:28:54.120 --> 0:28:57.000
<v Speaker 4>of dead hens like going like ten foot back or

0:28:57.000 --> 0:28:59.640
<v Speaker 4>whatever under the roosts. It's like any hen that had

0:28:59.680 --> 0:29:03.000
<v Speaker 4>been in that kill zone was just dead. And then

0:29:03.040 --> 0:29:05.360
<v Speaker 4>there were some like right outside of it that were

0:29:05.400 --> 0:29:08.680
<v Speaker 4>like kind of like flopping around like kind of bobbing

0:29:08.720 --> 0:29:11.239
<v Speaker 4>their head like they were stunned. And then they were

0:29:11.240 --> 0:29:13.080
<v Speaker 4>all the ones on the roosts and on the back

0:29:13.120 --> 0:29:14.720
<v Speaker 4>of the pen. They were all pile up there, just

0:29:14.760 --> 0:29:19.360
<v Speaker 4>screaming their heads off. So I fell back down and

0:29:19.400 --> 0:29:23.240
<v Speaker 4>I pulled out my phone, and my hands weren't my

0:29:23.280 --> 0:29:25.320
<v Speaker 4>fingers weren't working, so it kind of felt like I

0:29:25.360 --> 0:29:28.040
<v Speaker 4>was just clubbing my phone. It wanted to do that

0:29:28.080 --> 0:29:30.840
<v Speaker 4>face id thing, you know, like and I don't know

0:29:30.840 --> 0:29:33.280
<v Speaker 4>if it was like the smoke or what, but like

0:29:33.520 --> 0:29:35.959
<v Speaker 4>I couldn't get it to go, So I'm like pawing

0:29:35.960 --> 0:29:38.040
<v Speaker 4>out the pass code and I'm like, man, I'm on

0:29:38.080 --> 0:29:41.440
<v Speaker 4>a clock here, so I'm trying, try and trying, and

0:29:41.480 --> 0:29:43.480
<v Speaker 4>I finally get it to go through and it's one

0:29:43.640 --> 0:29:45.880
<v Speaker 4>and it goes through to one of those dang telemarketers

0:29:45.960 --> 0:29:51.200
<v Speaker 4>that's trying to sell you insurance and so like, and

0:29:51.360 --> 0:29:53.520
<v Speaker 4>I can't remember if he answered or not, but I like,

0:29:54.120 --> 0:29:55.760
<v Speaker 4>so I hung out and I'm like, you gotta be

0:29:55.800 --> 0:29:59.560
<v Speaker 4>freaking kidding me. And so then I I'm able to

0:29:59.640 --> 0:30:02.760
<v Speaker 4>hit you know, like call back Carla, my wife, and

0:30:02.800 --> 0:30:04.760
<v Speaker 4>she's in a meeting, and she hits me with one

0:30:04.760 --> 0:30:08.000
<v Speaker 4>of those like in a meeting, call or can't talk

0:30:08.080 --> 0:30:12.120
<v Speaker 4>right now, call you back later. So then our church,

0:30:12.320 --> 0:30:15.760
<v Speaker 4>the men in our church have like this group like

0:30:15.800 --> 0:30:19.040
<v Speaker 4>a WhatsApp group, and I go to that one and

0:30:19.120 --> 0:30:22.360
<v Speaker 4>I start doing all this text like trying to text it,

0:30:23.240 --> 0:30:26.840
<v Speaker 4>and it's just absolute gibberish because my fingers don't work.

0:30:28.240 --> 0:30:31.880
<v Speaker 1>From John and Spence's story, it's clear that if the

0:30:32.000 --> 0:30:35.200
<v Speaker 1>lightning doesn't kill you, which in ninety percent of cases

0:30:35.200 --> 0:30:39.880
<v Speaker 1>it doesn't, getting struck dysfunctionalizes you for a period of time.

0:30:40.560 --> 0:30:43.480
<v Speaker 1>But now is a good time to try to understand

0:30:43.680 --> 0:30:47.920
<v Speaker 1>why these guys got struck by lightning. Here's Josh from

0:30:47.960 --> 0:30:49.040
<v Speaker 1>whether two two five.

0:30:50.440 --> 0:30:55.280
<v Speaker 5>Now, the reason it strikes is it's looking for those charges,

0:30:55.320 --> 0:30:58.440
<v Speaker 5>but it's looking for the shortest distance between the cloud

0:30:58.440 --> 0:31:01.480
<v Speaker 5>base and where the item is on the surface. So

0:31:02.080 --> 0:31:05.920
<v Speaker 5>that also kind of leads into, you know, the thought

0:31:05.960 --> 0:31:09.120
<v Speaker 5>of tallest objects and stuff like that. Air is not

0:31:09.160 --> 0:31:11.560
<v Speaker 5>a good conductor for electricity, so it looks for that

0:31:11.600 --> 0:31:15.160
<v Speaker 5>shortest distance. And so when it's looking for that shortest distance,

0:31:15.240 --> 0:31:17.800
<v Speaker 5>it's looking for the tallest object to strike to get

0:31:17.840 --> 0:31:21.239
<v Speaker 5>to those particles on the surface that are charged. And

0:31:21.280 --> 0:31:24.040
<v Speaker 5>when it does so, it typically hits the tallest things.

0:31:24.080 --> 0:31:26.640
<v Speaker 5>In some cases, unfortunately for farmers in this part of

0:31:26.640 --> 0:31:30.360
<v Speaker 5>the country, that may be a cow in you know,

0:31:30.520 --> 0:31:32.880
<v Speaker 5>other parts of the world, that may be the tallest

0:31:32.880 --> 0:31:36.720
<v Speaker 5>building or a light post or something that's just allowing

0:31:37.000 --> 0:31:40.479
<v Speaker 5>for that shortest distance to make a connection. So the

0:31:40.520 --> 0:31:42.640
<v Speaker 5>myth that I hear a lot too is you know,

0:31:42.680 --> 0:31:44.719
<v Speaker 5>if you're wearing like a watch, or if you have

0:31:44.760 --> 0:31:48.240
<v Speaker 5>a necklace, or if you're you know, carrying something metal

0:31:48.280 --> 0:31:50.280
<v Speaker 5>with you, that you're automatically going to be the attraction

0:31:50.400 --> 0:31:50.960
<v Speaker 5>to lightning.

0:31:52.040 --> 0:31:54.160
<v Speaker 3>So it's actually kind of a wives tale.

0:31:54.240 --> 0:31:57.440
<v Speaker 5>It really doesn't matter if it's more conductive or not.

0:31:58.200 --> 0:32:01.160
<v Speaker 5>It really matters if you're the tallest thing out there.

0:32:01.200 --> 0:32:02.680
<v Speaker 5>So if I were to go out in the parking

0:32:02.680 --> 0:32:05.760
<v Speaker 5>lot and hold like a lead pipe above my head

0:32:05.760 --> 0:32:08.440
<v Speaker 5>and a thunderstorm, I'm probably gonna get struck, not because

0:32:08.480 --> 0:32:11.280
<v Speaker 5>of that pipe, but because I'm the tallest thing and

0:32:11.280 --> 0:32:14.520
<v Speaker 5>that's the shortest distance, so it's going to hit that object.

0:32:14.680 --> 0:32:16.360
<v Speaker 5>And the reason that there's a lot of people that

0:32:16.400 --> 0:32:20.280
<v Speaker 5>they believe that metal is the attraction to lightning, it's

0:32:20.360 --> 0:32:23.480
<v Speaker 5>because obviously we know that they hit metal structures the most.

0:32:23.640 --> 0:32:26.840
<v Speaker 5>I've been text to a light pole that exploded from

0:32:27.560 --> 0:32:30.880
<v Speaker 5>a lightning strike in my car, and you know that

0:32:30.960 --> 0:32:34.360
<v Speaker 5>was the tallest thing out there, So it's really not

0:32:34.760 --> 0:32:37.320
<v Speaker 5>you know one item. So if you have like a

0:32:37.440 --> 0:32:39.640
<v Speaker 5>light pole, that's not going to be attracting the lightning

0:32:39.680 --> 0:32:42.920
<v Speaker 5>more than let's say, if I were to put a

0:32:42.960 --> 0:32:46.280
<v Speaker 5>wooden two by four out in the yard. So it's

0:32:46.320 --> 0:32:51.000
<v Speaker 5>just it's mostly the height, and it's the connector between

0:32:51.120 --> 0:32:53.400
<v Speaker 5>the shortest distance of the cloud based to the surface.

0:32:59.680 --> 0:33:04.680
<v Speaker 1>Light strikes the highest thing around, not necessarily metal stuff.

0:33:05.160 --> 0:33:08.000
<v Speaker 1>I would have got that wrong. On a test. Spence

0:33:08.120 --> 0:33:12.000
<v Speaker 1>was in an open pasture standing beside that portable chicken

0:33:12.080 --> 0:33:15.560
<v Speaker 1>hoop house which is probably seven eight ten feet tall.

0:33:15.960 --> 0:33:18.760
<v Speaker 1>He didn't get a direct hit, but it probably struck

0:33:18.800 --> 0:33:21.800
<v Speaker 1>the house. John was sitting in a white oak on

0:33:21.880 --> 0:33:25.080
<v Speaker 1>the edge of a field opening, and that white oak

0:33:25.200 --> 0:33:28.080
<v Speaker 1>was the biggest tree, he said, within about fifty yards.

0:33:28.680 --> 0:33:31.320
<v Speaker 1>All that being said, I still wouldn't be holding something

0:33:31.360 --> 0:33:34.520
<v Speaker 1>metal in a thunderstorm for crying out loud. Juju told

0:33:34.600 --> 0:33:37.720
<v Speaker 1>us all not to do that. But maybe the science

0:33:37.760 --> 0:33:40.640
<v Speaker 1>doesn't really back it up. But here is John and

0:33:40.800 --> 0:33:44.480
<v Speaker 1>he's driving down the road, barely hanging on to consciousness,

0:33:44.840 --> 0:33:48.400
<v Speaker 1>but he's managed to contact his wife and he hears

0:33:48.400 --> 0:33:51.640
<v Speaker 1>her voice.

0:33:50.600 --> 0:33:53.440
<v Speaker 2>And then hearing her voice really really helped, and then

0:33:54.120 --> 0:33:56.480
<v Speaker 2>I I knew. I just had this like rush of

0:33:56.600 --> 0:33:58.160
<v Speaker 2>energy where I knew I could make it to the

0:33:58.200 --> 0:34:00.680
<v Speaker 2>hospital because if I pulled over and called an ambulance

0:34:00.760 --> 0:34:02.760
<v Speaker 2>or she tried to get me, I felt like it

0:34:02.800 --> 0:34:05.800
<v Speaker 2>was gonna be roughly around the same time as if

0:34:05.840 --> 0:34:08.839
<v Speaker 2>I just pulled over and wait. Looking back, maybe it

0:34:09.000 --> 0:34:12.440
<v Speaker 2>wasn't the smartest thing to do, but she's talking to me,

0:34:13.120 --> 0:34:16.000
<v Speaker 2>and then her perspective of the story, she said, I

0:34:16.080 --> 0:34:17.280
<v Speaker 2>wasn't making any sense.

0:34:17.880 --> 0:34:18.560
<v Speaker 4>She said I was.

0:34:18.719 --> 0:34:21.319
<v Speaker 2>She didn't know what happened. She just knew something was

0:34:21.320 --> 0:34:26.080
<v Speaker 2>wrong from like the sound of my voice. And I get,

0:34:26.239 --> 0:34:29.839
<v Speaker 2>you know, I get towards Greenland area, and that's when

0:34:29.880 --> 0:34:31.520
<v Speaker 2>I felt like, Okay, I think I can make it,

0:34:31.960 --> 0:34:34.080
<v Speaker 2>And she said I was making a little bit more sense.

0:34:34.120 --> 0:34:37.000
<v Speaker 2>I could start, you know, piecing little pieces together. She

0:34:37.120 --> 0:34:40.280
<v Speaker 2>was just she just kept repeating, keep talking, keep talking,

0:34:40.360 --> 0:34:44.640
<v Speaker 2>keep talking. So at that point she was able to realize, okay,

0:34:44.680 --> 0:34:47.640
<v Speaker 2>he's if something, if he stops talking, we can go

0:34:47.680 --> 0:34:52.960
<v Speaker 2>get him help. So finally I get to the hospital

0:34:53.680 --> 0:34:58.359
<v Speaker 2>and I remember her face when she saw my head,

0:34:58.840 --> 0:35:00.919
<v Speaker 2>and she tried to like pose herself because she didn't

0:35:00.920 --> 0:35:02.160
<v Speaker 2>want to freak me out more but then she knew

0:35:02.200 --> 0:35:04.719
<v Speaker 2>it was really serious, and she gets me out of

0:35:04.719 --> 0:35:09.560
<v Speaker 2>the truck getting to the hospital, and it was just

0:35:10.239 --> 0:35:12.640
<v Speaker 2>I was just like a zombie, basically had no idea.

0:35:12.880 --> 0:35:16.560
<v Speaker 2>I wasn't making sense. She was doing mostly talking for me,

0:35:17.520 --> 0:35:20.360
<v Speaker 2>and then the people are just looking at me, like

0:35:20.360 --> 0:35:22.479
<v Speaker 2>what happened? And then she said lightning. And that's when

0:35:22.560 --> 0:35:25.920
<v Speaker 2>everybody just you know, you know, with trauma whatever. And

0:35:25.960 --> 0:35:28.480
<v Speaker 2>they just brought me into a on a bed and

0:35:28.600 --> 0:35:30.640
<v Speaker 2>hooked up so many machines. Again, I'm kind of fuzzy.

0:35:30.640 --> 0:35:32.040
<v Speaker 2>I don't remember a lot of it. She know, she

0:35:32.120 --> 0:35:34.920
<v Speaker 2>remembers more of that. And then I mean, I was

0:35:34.960 --> 0:35:38.280
<v Speaker 2>I think my blood pressure was in the one nineties.

0:35:38.520 --> 0:35:41.799
<v Speaker 2>I mean it was bad. I had no fluids in me.

0:35:42.239 --> 0:35:44.440
<v Speaker 2>They had to hook me up to I sweated everything

0:35:44.480 --> 0:35:46.120
<v Speaker 2>out of my system just trying to get off that

0:35:46.160 --> 0:35:48.480
<v Speaker 2>mountain and then just all the energy it took to

0:35:48.520 --> 0:35:49.359
<v Speaker 2>be able to get out.

0:35:52.000 --> 0:35:55.439
<v Speaker 1>Let's see what happened to Spence. He's managed to get

0:35:55.480 --> 0:35:59.600
<v Speaker 1>a garbled text message out to our men's church group thread.

0:36:00.080 --> 0:36:04.360
<v Speaker 1>It's incoherent, but it mentions something about lightning.

0:36:05.160 --> 0:36:08.160
<v Speaker 4>And this one guy named Dalton, he's like an aircraft

0:36:08.200 --> 0:36:11.719
<v Speaker 4>guy somehow Dalton. He's like the Spence Whisper because he

0:36:11.800 --> 0:36:15.600
<v Speaker 4>figures it out. He's like, guys, I think Spence needs help.

0:36:15.640 --> 0:36:19.799
<v Speaker 4>He's hit by lightning instantly, they like mobilized. And I

0:36:19.840 --> 0:36:22.440
<v Speaker 4>have a friend Zach Newcomb. He's like one of my

0:36:22.520 --> 0:36:23.600
<v Speaker 4>oldest best friends.

0:36:24.440 --> 0:36:26.439
<v Speaker 1>That Zach is my older brother Zach.

0:36:26.880 --> 0:36:28.680
<v Speaker 4>And he was walking out the door on his way

0:36:28.719 --> 0:36:33.320
<v Speaker 4>to Low's. So he says, I'm coming, and so I

0:36:33.360 --> 0:36:37.600
<v Speaker 4>stand up and I start like quasi motoing it like crawling.

0:36:38.120 --> 0:36:40.399
<v Speaker 4>So I'm like, I'll go, I'll go get over there

0:36:41.040 --> 0:36:43.480
<v Speaker 4>to the gate. So I limp over the gate and

0:36:43.480 --> 0:36:46.560
<v Speaker 4>I get there and I collapse. And here in a

0:36:46.640 --> 0:36:49.640
<v Speaker 4>red Tacoma comes the hero of the hour, my friend

0:36:49.719 --> 0:36:53.600
<v Speaker 4>Zach nukelemb and he whips in and I'm there and

0:36:53.680 --> 0:36:56.359
<v Speaker 4>I'm so weak and nothing works and he pulls up.

0:36:56.719 --> 0:36:59.680
<v Speaker 4>He thought I was dead, I mean from what he said.

0:37:00.200 --> 0:37:03.520
<v Speaker 4>But he got there and he had to essentially pick

0:37:03.600 --> 0:37:07.560
<v Speaker 4>me up and put me in his truck and then ran.

0:37:07.920 --> 0:37:11.440
<v Speaker 4>And it was I've got a history with Zach. It

0:37:11.520 --> 0:37:14.960
<v Speaker 4>was kind of all funny because like Zach helped me.

0:37:15.000 --> 0:37:16.759
<v Speaker 4>He's a therapist too, and he helped me when I

0:37:16.760 --> 0:37:20.200
<v Speaker 4>got back from the war from like being blown up

0:37:20.640 --> 0:37:23.080
<v Speaker 4>a few times or being close to it, and so

0:37:23.320 --> 0:37:25.759
<v Speaker 4>like I look at him and I'm kind of like

0:37:25.800 --> 0:37:30.880
<v Speaker 4>bobbing around, and I'm like, Zach, I'm a tough sob

0:37:31.160 --> 0:37:35.040
<v Speaker 4>are not. And then I like start laughing, and then

0:37:35.080 --> 0:37:37.319
<v Speaker 4>I have like a flashback and I start crying, and

0:37:37.320 --> 0:37:39.879
<v Speaker 4>then I'm like laughing, and I'm like, I think it's

0:37:39.920 --> 0:37:43.200
<v Speaker 4>the war and it was like the perfect person, right,

0:37:43.239 --> 0:37:45.799
<v Speaker 4>And so I'm like going on this roller coaster. We

0:37:45.880 --> 0:37:48.120
<v Speaker 4>hit a traffic jam and I'm like, Zach, I think

0:37:48.160 --> 0:37:49.600
<v Speaker 4>you're gonna have to ride. I don't go around the

0:37:49.600 --> 0:37:55.040
<v Speaker 4>other side. They get me to the er and all that,

0:37:55.080 --> 0:37:57.160
<v Speaker 4>and so i know I'm gonna be okay, but I'm like,

0:37:57.320 --> 0:38:00.839
<v Speaker 4>my speeches were turning. I still can't very well on

0:38:00.880 --> 0:38:03.160
<v Speaker 4>my right side. I think where the lightning came in,

0:38:03.960 --> 0:38:04.920
<v Speaker 4>and we get to the er.

0:38:06.520 --> 0:38:10.280
<v Speaker 1>Spence slowly regains the function of his body and voice.

0:38:10.560 --> 0:38:13.359
<v Speaker 1>But what's interesting that I haven't told you is that

0:38:13.400 --> 0:38:17.040
<v Speaker 1>when he got struck, there was not even a storm

0:38:17.320 --> 0:38:22.000
<v Speaker 1>directly overhead. For real, there was not a lightning storm

0:38:22.120 --> 0:38:25.000
<v Speaker 1>going on around him. There were just storms in the

0:38:25.120 --> 0:38:28.880
<v Speaker 1>area and he still got struck, which is wild because

0:38:28.920 --> 0:38:34.120
<v Speaker 1>it came completely without warning, which begs the question, how

0:38:34.360 --> 0:38:39.719
<v Speaker 1>far away can lightning strike away from the storm. I know,

0:38:40.000 --> 0:38:43.000
<v Speaker 1>just the weather analyst. I'm told he's a chief.

0:38:45.280 --> 0:38:48.040
<v Speaker 5>I usually tell people be aware, even if you're up

0:38:48.080 --> 0:38:51.279
<v Speaker 5>to twenty five even close to thirty miles away. Now,

0:38:51.320 --> 0:38:53.759
<v Speaker 5>not every storm's going to do that. The tricky thing

0:38:53.760 --> 0:38:56.600
<v Speaker 5>with storms is, you know, like you mentioned the eye

0:38:56.680 --> 0:38:59.959
<v Speaker 5>of a storm, there's weird.

0:38:59.680 --> 0:39:01.200
<v Speaker 3>Differentferences with some storms.

0:39:01.200 --> 0:39:03.400
<v Speaker 5>In some cases, if you have an anvil cloud, you

0:39:03.440 --> 0:39:06.800
<v Speaker 5>can get what's called an anvil crawler, and the lightning

0:39:06.840 --> 0:39:09.960
<v Speaker 5>crawls up the anvil and then it shoots its way.

0:39:10.560 --> 0:39:11.440
<v Speaker 3>Miles and miles.

0:39:11.960 --> 0:39:15.560
<v Speaker 5>And typically some of the longer bolts that you get

0:39:15.760 --> 0:39:19.560
<v Speaker 5>far out ahead of a storm, those are typically positive bolts,

0:39:19.640 --> 0:39:22.400
<v Speaker 5>and they're typically on the edge of the thunderstorm.

0:39:22.719 --> 0:39:24.560
<v Speaker 3>In some cases, those can actually go out.

0:39:24.400 --> 0:39:27.280
<v Speaker 5>As far as twenty five plus miles from the actual

0:39:27.280 --> 0:39:31.000
<v Speaker 5>storm itself, on the leading edge. And so, you know,

0:39:31.120 --> 0:39:35.640
<v Speaker 5>typical thunderstorms they tell people around ten miles. But some

0:39:35.719 --> 0:39:38.880
<v Speaker 5>of the more unstable environments, when you get some of

0:39:38.880 --> 0:39:42.480
<v Speaker 5>that positive lightning as well, it can easily go fifteen

0:39:42.640 --> 0:39:46.560
<v Speaker 5>twenty even upwards of close to thirty miles ahead of

0:39:46.560 --> 0:39:48.759
<v Speaker 5>the storm.

0:39:49.200 --> 0:39:52.040
<v Speaker 1>So mister weather two two five is telling me that

0:39:52.120 --> 0:39:55.160
<v Speaker 1>you can be struck by lightning if you're within thirty

0:39:55.200 --> 0:39:59.560
<v Speaker 1>miles of the storm. That is ridiculous and not even fair.

0:40:00.440 --> 0:40:02.960
<v Speaker 1>But it even gets worse. As a matter of fact,

0:40:03.040 --> 0:40:08.640
<v Speaker 1>the National Weather Service reports lightning traveling almost ninety miles

0:40:08.760 --> 0:40:12.160
<v Speaker 1>ninety miles out of the anvil head of a thunderstorm

0:40:12.400 --> 0:40:17.000
<v Speaker 1>near the Kennedy Space Center. They documented this, and for

0:40:17.239 --> 0:40:22.120
<v Speaker 1>your notes, June, July, and August are the three highest

0:40:22.400 --> 0:40:27.240
<v Speaker 1>months for lightning strikes. They peak in July, but Spence

0:40:27.320 --> 0:40:32.040
<v Speaker 1>was hit in February and John was hitting September. I'd

0:40:32.080 --> 0:40:35.120
<v Speaker 1>like to see what other wild lightning stories Josh has

0:40:35.160 --> 0:40:35.560
<v Speaker 1>heard of.

0:40:37.080 --> 0:40:38.640
<v Speaker 3>So there's a couple.

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<v Speaker 5>One of the stats that I heard was in terms

0:40:41.840 --> 0:40:46.719
<v Speaker 5>of lightning strikes to a human being in a lifetime,

0:40:46.760 --> 0:40:49.719
<v Speaker 5>someone was struck seven times and that's the record to

0:40:49.800 --> 0:40:54.000
<v Speaker 5>this day. So that's one because I just can't imagine

0:40:54.000 --> 0:40:56.520
<v Speaker 5>going about life. And it sounded like, you know, the

0:40:56.960 --> 0:40:59.560
<v Speaker 5>stat didn't give all the information, but it sounded like

0:40:59.600 --> 0:41:02.799
<v Speaker 5>it was. At the same time, I don't know how

0:41:02.840 --> 0:41:05.759
<v Speaker 5>anyone could just go on getting struck by lightning seven

0:41:05.800 --> 0:41:08.080
<v Speaker 5>times that I would be terrified to go outside if

0:41:08.080 --> 0:41:10.719
<v Speaker 5>that were the case. So yeah, there's that, And then

0:41:10.880 --> 0:41:14.839
<v Speaker 5>there's always crazy stories too. Unfortunately, I hear this one

0:41:14.880 --> 0:41:19.719
<v Speaker 5>a lot, but lightning leading to house fires. Other ones

0:41:19.719 --> 0:41:22.600
<v Speaker 5>that I've seen too is it was, oh, it was

0:41:22.600 --> 0:41:25.120
<v Speaker 5>like twenty fourteen there was a lightning strike. It was

0:41:25.160 --> 0:41:28.400
<v Speaker 5>a very famous video a pickup truck that got struck

0:41:28.400 --> 0:41:32.120
<v Speaker 5>and it actually blew up the concrete and it damaged

0:41:32.239 --> 0:41:34.760
<v Speaker 5>the truck when it was driving through that lightning strike.

0:41:35.280 --> 0:41:37.320
<v Speaker 5>I've seen some videos of lightning hitting cars and it

0:41:37.360 --> 0:41:41.040
<v Speaker 5>can melt the dashboard type thing. So it's really weird because,

0:41:41.239 --> 0:41:43.880
<v Speaker 5>you know, lightning, it's one of those phenomenons that we

0:41:43.920 --> 0:41:47.720
<v Speaker 5>can kind of tell you it's gonna happen, but every

0:41:47.760 --> 0:41:52.040
<v Speaker 5>experience is unique and weird. So you know, there's people

0:41:52.080 --> 0:41:54.200
<v Speaker 5>that have experienced lightning and cars all have a different

0:41:54.280 --> 0:41:56.920
<v Speaker 5>experience of you know, it struck the car and didn't

0:41:56.960 --> 0:42:00.600
<v Speaker 5>do anything to it fully melted the dashboard type thing.

0:42:01.560 --> 0:42:04.080
<v Speaker 1>There's the wives tell that if you get struck by lightning,

0:42:04.080 --> 0:42:08.080
<v Speaker 1>then once you're more likely to be hit again. Could

0:42:08.120 --> 0:42:12.400
<v Speaker 1>that be true? Roy Sullivan was a park ranger in

0:42:12.440 --> 0:42:16.399
<v Speaker 1>the Shenandoah National Park in Virginia, and he became known

0:42:16.520 --> 0:42:21.720
<v Speaker 1>as the human lightning Rod after being struck seven times. Yep,

0:42:22.080 --> 0:42:25.040
<v Speaker 1>he's the guy that Josh was talking about. There's a

0:42:25.040 --> 0:42:29.600
<v Speaker 1>webpage that cites all the specific circumstances of his strikes,

0:42:30.000 --> 0:42:32.760
<v Speaker 1>and they all seem like the outings of a normal

0:42:32.920 --> 0:42:36.719
<v Speaker 1>outdoorsy guy, you know, one that worked outside. Once he

0:42:36.840 --> 0:42:39.760
<v Speaker 1>was fishing, Once he was in a fire tower waiting

0:42:39.800 --> 0:42:42.680
<v Speaker 1>out of storm. Once he was out in the woods

0:42:42.960 --> 0:42:45.880
<v Speaker 1>and walking back to his truck while he was working,

0:42:46.000 --> 0:42:48.080
<v Speaker 1>and he claimed that it felt like the storm was

0:42:48.160 --> 0:42:51.120
<v Speaker 1>chasing him. Once his hair caught on fire after he

0:42:51.160 --> 0:42:55.720
<v Speaker 1>got struck. All the strikes were documented by the Park Service.

0:42:56.400 --> 0:42:59.080
<v Speaker 1>He died in nineteen eighty three at age seventy one,

0:42:59.760 --> 0:43:02.920
<v Speaker 1>being struck seven times. He didn't die because of a

0:43:03.040 --> 0:43:06.680
<v Speaker 1>lightning strike. But Spence has something to say about this

0:43:06.800 --> 0:43:11.680
<v Speaker 1>idea of getting hit twice. These stories happened after a strike.

0:43:13.480 --> 0:43:15.680
<v Speaker 4>It's interesting looking back, I had I was up in

0:43:15.680 --> 0:43:19.640
<v Speaker 4>our haller, but this lightning bolt started up in the

0:43:19.680 --> 0:43:22.040
<v Speaker 4>sky and in slow motion it was like coming for me,

0:43:22.200 --> 0:43:24.799
<v Speaker 4>and then it just like wamn, it hit this ash tree,

0:43:24.920 --> 0:43:27.960
<v Speaker 4>like a couple hundred yards away, and I remember like

0:43:28.040 --> 0:43:30.000
<v Speaker 4>feeling like a little kid, like I got like I

0:43:30.000 --> 0:43:32.680
<v Speaker 4>almost wept myself. But it's like I saw it coming

0:43:32.719 --> 0:43:36.560
<v Speaker 4>and it just like went down. And then later in

0:43:36.600 --> 0:43:39.399
<v Speaker 4>that summer, I had a storm. I'd finished up moving

0:43:39.440 --> 0:43:42.800
<v Speaker 4>birds and I had a storm pop up, and I

0:43:42.840 --> 0:43:45.440
<v Speaker 4>had lightning bolts hitting near and so they say like

0:43:45.520 --> 0:43:46.200
<v Speaker 4>once you get.

0:43:46.120 --> 0:43:48.640
<v Speaker 3>Hit after the fact, after the accidental.

0:43:48.760 --> 0:43:51.160
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I had two lightning strikes nearby, and I felt

0:43:51.200 --> 0:43:54.920
<v Speaker 4>like there's that part in the office where Dwight sets

0:43:54.920 --> 0:43:57.919
<v Speaker 4>it on fire and he throws fire crackers and they're

0:43:57.960 --> 0:44:00.880
<v Speaker 4>like the fire shooting at us, and I feel like

0:44:00.920 --> 0:44:03.440
<v Speaker 4>the lightning shooting at me, you know, like I just

0:44:03.480 --> 0:44:05.839
<v Speaker 4>feel like it ads it out for me. So when

0:44:05.840 --> 0:44:08.319
<v Speaker 4>I see a storm now, I'm just like nope, And

0:44:08.360 --> 0:44:13.000
<v Speaker 4>if you don't want me around you, like it's just so.

0:44:13.400 --> 0:44:14.879
<v Speaker 4>I don't know if there's truth to that, but they

0:44:14.880 --> 0:44:16.359
<v Speaker 4>say you're more likely to get caught.

0:44:19.960 --> 0:44:23.279
<v Speaker 1>Sounds to me like lightning is living rent free and

0:44:23.360 --> 0:44:27.400
<v Speaker 1>Spence's head and probably John's two, and it would in

0:44:27.480 --> 0:44:30.200
<v Speaker 1>mind if I got struck, But you just never know.

0:44:31.000 --> 0:44:34.359
<v Speaker 1>I've got a question for Josh, is it possible there's

0:44:34.480 --> 0:44:36.960
<v Speaker 1>more lightning today than ever before?

0:44:39.400 --> 0:44:41.600
<v Speaker 5>So most of the research I'm looking at, they're accounting

0:44:41.640 --> 0:44:46.360
<v Speaker 5>for you know, we've had lightning since the beginning of time,

0:44:46.440 --> 0:44:50.440
<v Speaker 5>but obviously with more talk of more storm activity and

0:44:50.520 --> 0:44:53.560
<v Speaker 5>hit everything along those lines. I mean, we've had several

0:44:53.640 --> 0:44:56.560
<v Speaker 5>hurricanes in recent years that had an uptick in lightning

0:44:56.600 --> 0:44:59.439
<v Speaker 5>and typically you didn't see that much lightning.

0:44:59.080 --> 0:44:59.880
<v Speaker 3>Near the eyewall.

0:45:00.560 --> 0:45:03.479
<v Speaker 5>Uh So there is a little a little talk going

0:45:03.760 --> 0:45:06.600
<v Speaker 5>around with research that I'm reading and everything that says

0:45:06.640 --> 0:45:08.880
<v Speaker 5>that there is a little bit of an increase in

0:45:08.960 --> 0:45:12.239
<v Speaker 5>lightning over the last decade as we're getting more storm activity.

0:45:12.800 --> 0:45:16.479
<v Speaker 5>And obviously for some of us here in the South,

0:45:16.520 --> 0:45:18.360
<v Speaker 5>it may not feel like it because we get storms

0:45:18.400 --> 0:45:22.240
<v Speaker 5>all the time, but you know, our atmosphere anywhere Gulf

0:45:22.280 --> 0:45:26.640
<v Speaker 5>Coast areas all the way up into central United States,

0:45:26.680 --> 0:45:28.319
<v Speaker 5>and we get more storms, we see more of it.

0:45:28.400 --> 0:45:31.359
<v Speaker 5>But there is some research to indicate that there is

0:45:31.560 --> 0:45:33.680
<v Speaker 5>an increase in lightning over the last decade or so.

0:45:35.480 --> 0:45:41.360
<v Speaker 5>You're staying with a grin, You do the sound of hailstone's.

0:45:40.480 --> 0:45:41.000
<v Speaker 4>Hit its in?

0:45:42.960 --> 0:45:44.200
<v Speaker 1>Is that not batty?

0:45:47.040 --> 0:45:48.799
<v Speaker 4>Hits me like an.

0:46:15.560 --> 0:46:18.280
<v Speaker 1>If you're waiting for the sky to fall. It sounds

0:46:18.320 --> 0:46:21.520
<v Speaker 1>like there's an uptick of lightning in the world, and

0:46:21.600 --> 0:46:24.759
<v Speaker 1>that's good to know. That dang Turnpike song is one

0:46:24.800 --> 0:46:28.560
<v Speaker 1>of my favorites. I'd now like to ask Josh if

0:46:28.600 --> 0:46:31.640
<v Speaker 1>there are any other wives tells about lightning that he'd

0:46:31.719 --> 0:46:32.440
<v Speaker 1>like to debunk.

0:46:34.200 --> 0:46:39.319
<v Speaker 5>So obviously the metal one, that one has, you know,

0:46:39.400 --> 0:46:42.200
<v Speaker 5>stuck with me just because obviously, I mean even today

0:46:42.239 --> 0:46:44.520
<v Speaker 5>people talk about, you know, metal is going to lead

0:46:44.560 --> 0:46:47.880
<v Speaker 5>to lightning, that type thing. You know, standing under a

0:46:47.920 --> 0:46:50.560
<v Speaker 5>tree means you're going to be safe. That's not the case.

0:46:50.640 --> 0:46:52.880
<v Speaker 5>If lightning strikes that tree, you're going to be you know,

0:46:52.920 --> 0:46:55.520
<v Speaker 5>awfully close to that. Actually, I think one of the

0:46:55.560 --> 0:46:58.839
<v Speaker 5>most one of the most interesting ones I hear is

0:46:59.120 --> 0:47:02.160
<v Speaker 5>if someone is str by lightning, you cannot touch them.

0:47:02.040 --> 0:47:05.040
<v Speaker 3>Because you're going to get electrocuted. That's a wives tale.

0:47:05.440 --> 0:47:08.960
<v Speaker 5>It's perfectly safe to you know, assist them with medical

0:47:09.000 --> 0:47:10.560
<v Speaker 5>treatment and stuff. It's not like you have to wait

0:47:10.560 --> 0:47:12.799
<v Speaker 5>thirty minutes and then the charge goes away type deal.

0:47:13.160 --> 0:47:17.040
<v Speaker 5>The other one too, once you stop hearing the thunder

0:47:17.480 --> 0:47:19.960
<v Speaker 5>in the middle of a thunderstorm, it's absolutely over. We

0:47:20.040 --> 0:47:22.759
<v Speaker 5>typically tell people to wait thirty minutes after you've heard

0:47:22.760 --> 0:47:24.239
<v Speaker 5>that last lightning strike to make sure that.

0:47:24.239 --> 0:47:26.520
<v Speaker 3>There's not going to be that one last bolt.

0:47:27.080 --> 0:47:27.480
<v Speaker 4>Oh yeah.

0:47:27.520 --> 0:47:31.000
<v Speaker 5>And then one of the ones that I hear is

0:47:31.320 --> 0:47:34.759
<v Speaker 5>the debate of does lightning strike the same area? You know,

0:47:34.800 --> 0:47:36.720
<v Speaker 5>there's a lot of people that they'll say it doesn't.

0:47:36.719 --> 0:47:39.480
<v Speaker 5>There's a lot of people that say it does. Hate

0:47:39.480 --> 0:47:41.680
<v Speaker 5>to break it to the people that say it doesn't

0:47:41.719 --> 0:47:44.160
<v Speaker 5>strike twice. There's actually instances where lightning can strike the

0:47:44.160 --> 0:47:47.080
<v Speaker 5>same area multiple times in a row. And I've actually

0:47:47.080 --> 0:47:49.879
<v Speaker 5>seen videos where it can strike the same thing six

0:47:49.920 --> 0:47:53.640
<v Speaker 5>times in a row. So lightning does strike twice, and

0:47:53.680 --> 0:47:57.279
<v Speaker 5>it can actually happen more than twice in some locations.

0:47:58.880 --> 0:48:01.400
<v Speaker 1>As it turns out, getting under a tree in a

0:48:01.440 --> 0:48:03.640
<v Speaker 1>storm can be the worst thing that you can do,

0:48:03.880 --> 0:48:06.560
<v Speaker 1>because that tree is gonna be the tallest thing around.

0:48:07.080 --> 0:48:10.359
<v Speaker 1>Being shorter out in the open is better, even though

0:48:10.440 --> 0:48:14.800
<v Speaker 1>that sounds completely ridiculous. And lying flat on the ground

0:48:14.920 --> 0:48:17.080
<v Speaker 1>is a bad idea too, they say, or at least

0:48:17.080 --> 0:48:19.880
<v Speaker 1>the Internet says, because it opens you up to a

0:48:19.920 --> 0:48:23.799
<v Speaker 1>stronger charge if lightning hits near you, like more your

0:48:23.880 --> 0:48:27.719
<v Speaker 1>body is touching the ground. But that's exactly what I

0:48:27.760 --> 0:48:30.239
<v Speaker 1>did when I got caught before daylight in a bad

0:48:30.320 --> 0:48:33.840
<v Speaker 1>thunderstorm while slipping up shoeless on a big old gobbler.

0:48:34.400 --> 0:48:37.640
<v Speaker 1>I threw my gun and laid flat on the ground

0:48:37.760 --> 0:48:41.800
<v Speaker 1>with lightning cracking all around me. I call that story

0:48:41.920 --> 0:48:45.400
<v Speaker 1>the Lightning Bird, and ended up killing him after daylight

0:48:45.520 --> 0:48:49.880
<v Speaker 1>after the storm passed. But basically, the best lightning advice

0:48:49.920 --> 0:48:52.200
<v Speaker 1>you can get is to get the heck out of

0:48:52.280 --> 0:48:55.840
<v Speaker 1>dodge and into a building or car as fast as possible,

0:48:56.320 --> 0:49:00.000
<v Speaker 1>no matter what you've got to do. Josh said something

0:49:00.160 --> 0:49:03.880
<v Speaker 1>earlier about the damage of all lightning strikes being unique,

0:49:04.280 --> 0:49:08.280
<v Speaker 1>But what's also unique is how people respond to getting

0:49:08.280 --> 0:49:11.840
<v Speaker 1>struck by lightning, which brings us back to where we started.

0:49:12.520 --> 0:49:16.840
<v Speaker 1>Could lightning be used as a connector point to something bigger?

0:49:17.480 --> 0:49:22.120
<v Speaker 1>Both Spence and John had unique things happened after the strikes.

0:49:22.520 --> 0:49:27.080
<v Speaker 1>If you remember, the explosion caused Spence to flash back

0:49:27.200 --> 0:49:32.000
<v Speaker 1>to war, but he actually thinks it might have helped him.

0:49:32.160 --> 0:49:34.120
<v Speaker 4>I'd actually done a good job. I thought I'd put

0:49:34.160 --> 0:49:36.640
<v Speaker 4>it all behind me, so it just kind of like

0:49:36.719 --> 0:49:40.920
<v Speaker 4>getting the last little bit out, you know. It didn't

0:49:40.960 --> 0:49:43.040
<v Speaker 4>like it didn't I didn't get hung up on it.

0:49:43.040 --> 0:49:44.000
<v Speaker 4>It was just kind of interesting.

0:49:44.080 --> 0:49:46.040
<v Speaker 2>It was still there, so you feel like it kind

0:49:46.080 --> 0:49:48.440
<v Speaker 2>of purged some of that out.

0:49:48.560 --> 0:49:50.480
<v Speaker 4>Stuff that I didn't know was in there, you know.

0:49:50.600 --> 0:49:52.239
<v Speaker 4>I mean, I'd done a good job of working on

0:49:52.280 --> 0:49:55.200
<v Speaker 4>it and putting it behind me, but yeah, I guess

0:49:55.239 --> 0:49:57.160
<v Speaker 4>there was still a little bit left to come out.

0:49:57.239 --> 0:50:01.879
<v Speaker 1>So here is an internet experienced that John had.

0:50:03.320 --> 0:50:07.680
<v Speaker 2>I remember, like four or five days later, when things

0:50:07.680 --> 0:50:12.120
<v Speaker 2>started to calm down, I was thinking, I'm like why

0:50:12.239 --> 0:50:14.279
<v Speaker 2>I was having this like almost like a vision of

0:50:14.360 --> 0:50:17.120
<v Speaker 2>a baby crying. And that's when I remembered when I

0:50:17.200 --> 0:50:20.120
<v Speaker 2>woke up the first time I woke up getting shot

0:50:20.120 --> 0:50:22.960
<v Speaker 2>out of stand I heard a baby crying, and that's

0:50:22.960 --> 0:50:25.520
<v Speaker 2>when I started like open my eyes and realizing like, okay,

0:50:25.520 --> 0:50:28.480
<v Speaker 2>what's going on? And I couldn't piece together why the

0:50:28.520 --> 0:50:32.480
<v Speaker 2>baby was crying. And backstory, me and my wife, we've

0:50:32.520 --> 0:50:34.440
<v Speaker 2>been trying to have a baby for the past you know,

0:50:34.560 --> 0:50:37.480
<v Speaker 2>nine months before then and with no luck. And then

0:50:37.920 --> 0:50:41.120
<v Speaker 2>two weeks after the accident, we found out we were pregnant.

0:50:41.120 --> 0:50:42.080
<v Speaker 3>So that I thought was a.

0:50:42.000 --> 0:50:44.960
<v Speaker 2>Really beautiful part of the whole story. How you know,

0:50:45.040 --> 0:50:48.319
<v Speaker 2>through something that was traumatic and horrible, something beautiful kind

0:50:48.320 --> 0:50:48.880
<v Speaker 2>of came out of it.

0:50:49.000 --> 0:50:54.719
<v Speaker 1>But often in traumatic events, people remember more and more

0:50:54.840 --> 0:50:59.359
<v Speaker 1>things about the second surrounding the event as time passes. Well,

0:50:59.440 --> 0:51:02.000
<v Speaker 1>John was on the ground out in the woods. He

0:51:02.080 --> 0:51:08.560
<v Speaker 1>remembers hearing a baby crying. It's pretty unique. But unfortunately

0:51:09.120 --> 0:51:12.120
<v Speaker 1>he never got his bear, or he has it yet. Anyway,

0:51:12.800 --> 0:51:18.840
<v Speaker 1>there's always next year. I can't thank you enough for

0:51:19.000 --> 0:51:23.440
<v Speaker 1>listening to Bear Grease, for listening to Brent's This Country Life,

0:51:23.600 --> 0:51:27.520
<v Speaker 1>and for listening to Lakes Backwoods University. Please share our

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0:51:29.920 --> 0:51:32.799
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<v Speaker 1>one to him. We really hope you enjoyed it, and

0:51:37.320 --> 0:51:40.640
<v Speaker 1>as always, keep the wild places as wild because that's

0:51:40.680 --> 0:51:41.440
<v Speaker 1>where the bears live.