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Speaker 1: And now Move the Sticks with Daniel, Jeremiah and Bucky Brooks.

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Speaker 2: What's up, everybody? Welcome to move the Sticks, DJ and

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Speaker 2: Rhett with you today. Bucky will be back tomorrow. Rhet

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Speaker 2: with your fancy microphone that looks like Rush Limbaugh gifted

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Speaker 2: it to you, and this will How are you doing, Bud.

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Speaker 1: I'm good man. I'm waiting on your arrival here. We've

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Speaker 1: got a Thursday night football together tonight.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's why we're gonna be in a little crunch

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Speaker 2: on this episode, because I gotta beat some traffic get

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Speaker 2: from San Diego to Los Angeles in time for tin.

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Speaker 2: Who's playing? By the way, who do we got?

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Speaker 1: Oh? Yeah, it's the Rams and Niners.

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Speaker 2: Yeah it's a pretty big one. Yeah, yep, that's a

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Speaker 2: big one. Looking forward to seeing you and and digging

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Speaker 2: into that ball game. A little two hour pregame, little

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Speaker 2: we have half a just posts.

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Speaker 1: We have pre and post no half Oh, all.

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Speaker 2: Right, dinner's up to you. I'm gonna leave that up

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Speaker 2: to you to figure out what we're getting. Do not

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Speaker 2: rely on the catered food. It is nobo, not great.

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Speaker 1: So what are we what are we doing here?

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Speaker 2: All right, here's what we're doing. Let me tell me

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Speaker 2: what we're gonna do, Belichick. I want to get your

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Speaker 2: thoughts on that. We haven't talked since this happened. I

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Speaker 2: haven't even talked to Bucky about this. I'm looking forward

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Speaker 2: to getting hit where. But so we've got the little

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Speaker 2: Belichick talk, We've got the Game of the week, and

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Speaker 2: then we're going to do our rookie draft and the

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Speaker 2: Bill's going to take over for Bucks if you can

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Speaker 2: help him out a little bit. Bucks, I'm closing the

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Speaker 2: Bucks still got some room to make up there, so

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Speaker 2: you'll see when you get to that point. I'm closing in.

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Speaker 2: But Belichick, just give me your first thought like this,

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Speaker 2: did you think? Like? Because my first thought was I

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean I think I think if you were

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Speaker 1: then this is it. Because this is ten years ago.

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Speaker 1: Bill Belichick never considers this but now, I mean like

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Speaker 1: he's basically just working with an NFL calendar and an

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Speaker 1: like this is it like he's got a he's got

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Speaker 1: He's been one of the best at finding ways to

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Speaker 1: Lobardi with him to be the GM Like it just

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Speaker 2: There's a lot of different layers to it. Number One,

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Speaker 2: The other thing was I was looking at it thinking,

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Speaker 1: I guess I could see that. I could certainly understand

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Speaker 2: Yeah. I also think in some ways you know the NFL,

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Speaker 1: Why do you think kurtz Signetti was so successful at

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Speaker 1: He and his evaluated talent better than anybody in the

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Speaker 2: No question, in a favorable schedule. But anyways, let's uh, oh,

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Speaker 2: All right, It's time for the game. Of League presented

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Speaker 2: by Draft Kings Sports Book. This week, it's a big

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Speaker 2: and we've got the Bills at the Lions that spread

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Speaker 2: his minus two and a half favorite the Lions over

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Speaker 2: under his fifty four and a half rhet You are

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Speaker 2: are resident Lions watcher of over the lean years, the

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Speaker 1: Look, I think if the Rams found a way to

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Speaker 1: Well, dang near did right, But I think I think

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Speaker 1: Yeah, hold them to thirty five.

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Speaker 2: And I'm like, I'm just going with like the luck

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Speaker 2: Of this game. Why not this game a little bit,

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Speaker 2: sure they can. They could win that ballgame. The Lions

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Speaker 1: Maybe it's different that.

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Speaker 2: Changes it a little bit. I might lean more towards

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Speaker 2: we'll see what happens. I you're gonna go with the Lions.

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Speaker 2: I'm gonna stick with the Bills pick. But I do

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Speaker 2: think it's I do think it's a very close ball.

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Speaker 2: we'll come back. We'll do the rookie draft right after this.

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Speaker 2: All right, the results from last week, as we look

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Speaker 2: Girndo Coe, your guy Garndo, he got you a boatload

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Speaker 2: of points there. But then a weird week for brock Bauer,

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Speaker 1: About that because, yeah, I told him to remember that.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it didn't work out.

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Speaker 2: He did get some points for neighbors. He did get

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Speaker 2: some points for BTJ. So today we're gonna have an

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Speaker 2: for Bucky. Bucky is picking third. Rhet you are up first,

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I am going to go quarterback here, and I'm

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Speaker 2: Who are you picking? He's gonna go Brock Bowers. So

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Speaker 2: Ring, tap in, tap in Neighbors. He's gonna go with

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Speaker 2: And again we're saying it doesn't have to be a

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and now we're gonna get the Now we're gonna

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Speaker 1: now everyone's gonna find out just what kind of until

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Speaker 2: the thing, it's not just Ladd McConkey. Like, as we're

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Speaker 1: Right?

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Speaker 2: That might be a bigger concern. Fair. Yeah, I'm I'm

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Speaker 1: All right, So I got back to backers here, right, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: what do we know about Irving, Like, are we uh,

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Speaker 2: I have the latest on their injury report here.

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Speaker 1: Uh gives concerning Bucky Irving. Okay, we're gonna leave Bucky

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Speaker 1: a headline. That's enough. That's enough for me on this one. Okay, man,

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Speaker 1: this is this is tough. You got you got a

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Speaker 1: So and right again with no Maconkey, I feel like

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Speaker 1: I mean, there's just nothing. I mean there's I just

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Speaker 1: We're going with Tommy DeVito this week against give me

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm gonna gomconkey. Okay, all right, you gotta roll

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Speaker 1: A little bit somewhere.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, all right, Nobile, who are you going with?

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Speaker 1: No?

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Speaker 2: Bill? Uh? You are going Drake May? Huh, there you go?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, makes it overcare By the way, I did see it.

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Speaker 1: Great Wait, how about Kingsbury? You see Kingsbury's quote today

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Speaker 2: do you even do that really much anymore? It's just

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Like does it matter that you go in and

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Speaker 2: It's any rate? I mean, I don't. I'll say this

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Speaker 2: Yeah, a fan, Well, do we have boss? Do they

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Speaker 1: Do we get the We don't get the Bill O'Brien, No,

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Speaker 2: Looking forward to that, all right, I have to scoot.

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Speaker 2: I gotta get in the car, get out here up

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Speaker 2: here and do a little TV with you. So we're

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Speaker 2: gonna roll, but be on the lookout. Tomorrow, Bucky will

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Speaker 2: be having a conversation with Adam. Feeling great to hear

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Speaker 2: Bryce Young and his growth and development, So be on

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Speaker 2: the lookout for that tomorrow. I we appreciate you. We'll

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