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Speaker 1: You're listening to Fox Sports Radio Radio. Oh, let's go

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Speaker 1: stick it, genius, go big boy, let's go the let's go.

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Speaker 2: AFC and NFC championship games are set and we're here

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Speaker 2: to talk about it over the next three hours Sports Radio.

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Speaker 1: What's that You nailed it? Of course you had this

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Speaker 1: well I had.

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Speaker 3: I had Miami Kansas City, but no doubt Miami would

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Speaker 3: have gotten that far ahead.

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Speaker 1: Right right right.

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Speaker 2: And I think you had the Cowboys in the NFC

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Speaker 2: Championship game.

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Speaker 3: I don't remember that part.

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Speaker 2: I just when you say you nailed it, I thought

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Speaker 2: I was gonna take you at your words seeing this

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Speaker 2: report coming out of Vermont this week. But maybe I should, uh,

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Speaker 2: maybe I should learn my lesson. As we come to

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Speaker 2: should be. What a day for aesthetic football fans. Right,

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Speaker 2: if you like snow football, we got you and Arnie.

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Speaker 2: To be honest, I thought we got four really good games. Now, granted,

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Speaker 2: the one bad game was one of the bigger favorites

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Speaker 2: going down, the one seed going down with the Lions.

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Speaker 2: But I thought what made that so entertaining was just

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Speaker 2: I mean, the one seed went down and.

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Speaker 1: It happened on their home field.

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Speaker 2: So I thought, for a playoffs that people and when

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Speaker 2: I say, like you, Arnie, it's the game you like

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Speaker 2: buzzer beaters. Oh yeah, those types, And there's a massive

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Speaker 2: part of the fan base of every sport that feels

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Speaker 2: that way. But I don't know if you could have

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Speaker 2: asked for a better round of divisional playoff games unless

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Speaker 2: all of them ended on some walk off field goal

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Speaker 2: or something.

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Speaker 1: I thought it was great though it was.

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Speaker 3: It was a good for It made up for a

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Speaker 3: lot of other games. I gotta tell you, it was

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Speaker 3: really hoping the Rams were gonna punch it in there.

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Speaker 3: I didn't feel that game sake Bark celebrating like he

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Speaker 3: had won a Super Bowl and the Eagle fans going crazy,

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Speaker 3: and all of a sudden the Rams come back there

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Speaker 3: were down by thirteen. I knew, I knew they left

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Speaker 3: the door open for that. I really thought the Rams

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Speaker 3: had a chance to punching that thing in.

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Speaker 2: I'm not gonna lie to you I feel like honesty

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Speaker 2: is the best key. When Saquon hit that run, I

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Speaker 2: had to run an air so because what that made

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Speaker 2: it a two score game? Yeah, and I thought it's

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Speaker 2: over and so I just like, hey, I'll run the

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Speaker 2: er in now, guys, I'll be right back. So I

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Speaker 2: just listened to it. I listened to it on the radio,

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Speaker 2: and it was it was one of those where.

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Speaker 1: I found myself speeding home or and he's like, oh,

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Speaker 1: I gotta get home now, gotta get home now.

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Speaker 2: And then I'm stopping on the side of the road

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Speaker 2: but on my exit to watch the final drive because

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Speaker 2: you want to watch it, right, so you pull it

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Speaker 2: up on your phone.

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Speaker 1: It was just it was.

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Speaker 2: A game that at that point, when Saquon hit that run,

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Speaker 2: it was you could have tapped out if you wanted to.

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Speaker 1: But give credit to this Rams team. They started the

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Speaker 2: They never tapped out, not only this season, but in

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Speaker 2: that game today and without If it wasn't for that sack,

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Speaker 2: I mean, damn, there might have pulled that thing off.

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Speaker 3: I thought they were. I really thought they were gonna

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Speaker 3: the first and goal, they were right out the twenty.

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Speaker 3: I'm like, they get it the first to goal, They're

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Speaker 3: more first down. They're just shy. It was tough to ask.

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Speaker 3: a great effort. Now you gotta think what's gonna happen

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Speaker 3: next year? Is Stafford gonna be back? And what's gonna

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Speaker 2: Could you imagine, just just real quick for a moment,

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Speaker 2: congratulations to Philly. Don't get mad tonight, Philly, Fandre're gonna

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Speaker 2: get your flowers. This is another team that battle adversity

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Speaker 2: this year and here they are. But we're sitting here

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Speaker 2: tonight lamenting a lost opportunity for the Ravens because of

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Speaker 2: Mark Andrews drop. But Arnie, could you imagine if the

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Speaker 3: Oh for missing two extra.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, if if they do, like you and I both thought,

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Speaker 2: and win that football game. Oh my goodness, man, that

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Speaker 2: a rough night for my guy, Mark Andrews. Could you

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Speaker 2: imagine what life would have been like for Jake Elliott

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Speaker 3: I think they said he was playing a good game too, No,

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Speaker 3: I'm serious, straight for.

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Speaker 2: Three on the field goals. He just couldn't make an

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Speaker 2: extra point to recap in case you missed it. With

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Speaker 2: after an incredible punt to the Eagle thirteen yard line,

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Speaker 2: Naku and have missed the game. But yeah, the only reason, yeah,

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Speaker 2: But I thought it was a fun game, Arnie. I

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Speaker 1: And it ended up. I just thought both games were

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Speaker 3: No, it was. It was a good day for football.

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Speaker 3: It was a good day for the NFL. I'm sure

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Speaker 3: ratings were high. The are the viewers probably had a

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Speaker 2: Did let's focus on the Bills Ravens game for just

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Speaker 1: No?

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Speaker 3: But then again, I'm not all that confident that Kansas City,

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Speaker 3: If he's able to go ahead and pull it off

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Speaker 2: The numbers and I feel like we are a big

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Speaker 2: he only threw for one hundred and twenty seven yards.

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Speaker 2: He was sacked ones didn't really run the ball a

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Speaker 2: it ten times for just twenty yards. I'm still I

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Speaker 2: know the turnovers or the story, but Arnie, the Ravens

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Speaker 2: had more first downs, they were better on third down.

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Speaker 2: They ran two fewer total plays, but had like one

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Speaker 2: man to zero you can't have. I know, Lamar lost

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Speaker 3: To the Ravens. You mentioned it, the turnovers and the mistakes.

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Speaker 3: Lamar Jackson fumble led to seven points. That was a scoop.

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Speaker 3: I thought they were going to score on that. Von

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Speaker 3: pretty good job. I'm Derrick Henry. Even though he had

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Speaker 3: And that's exactly what they did.

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Speaker 2: break TV ratings records for an NFLAFC champions You'll.

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Speaker 3: Either're gonna be there next week, like minus eighty degrees

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Speaker 2: Did you see where the snow's actually hitting and where

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Speaker 1: No hat shouts out, Houston? What's going on? Houston?

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Speaker 2: Where are my friends now of the Houston are h

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Speaker 2: But hey, it doesn't matter, right, it doesn't matter how

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Speaker 2: both Kansas City and Buffalo really didn't wow I think

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Speaker 2: any of us. Now, Mahomes had to throw right, Mahomes

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Speaker 2: anything else.

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Speaker 1: Is he got a few calls too that shape that game, and.

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Speaker 3: Then oh Diddy, I didn't I've never noticed, but no,

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Speaker 3: I didn't know. I did say on Twitter that's something

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Speaker 3: you don't see every day. Kansas City, Yeah, call in

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Speaker 2: And then Buffalo kind of took advantage of the mistakes.

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Speaker 2: So to me, more than anything else, I'm real fascinating

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Speaker 2: to see if we finally get the best of both

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Speaker 3: Isn't it interesting? The two star quarterbacks in the NFL,

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Speaker 2: And are we sure that Matt Stafford's coming back next

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Speaker 3: No, I'm absolutely shocked about that. I didn't know his

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Speaker 3: Detroit White could always retire.

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Speaker 2: Right He don't think that's more they's thought about his

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Speaker 1: But I don't know, Arnie.

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Speaker 1: I mean, how much of a high roller are you

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Speaker 2: I don't know that's enough for me to stick around,

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Speaker 1: But we followed the Ben Mallard credo.

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Speaker 2: We went with the story as always in the losing

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Speaker 1: So when we come back, we'll go through each game

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Speaker 2: Arnie is a stinking genius one. I'm at Plank Show.

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Speaker 2: Round nine as we get set for Championship Sunday with

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Speaker 2: All right, It'sarni and Plank on a Fox Sports Sunday.

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Speaker 2: The championship games are set. It'll be Washington and Philadelphia.

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Speaker 2: The Bills at Kansas City currently the Eagles are set

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Speaker 2: is a five and a half point favorite, Chiefs at

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Speaker 1: And a half.

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Speaker 2: Anything about them surprise you.

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Speaker 3: No, But there was a little controversy on the over

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Speaker 3: If you want to right in the middle about that.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so you pick. But you mentioned the weather too

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Speaker 2: Philly was pretty nasty today too.

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Speaker 3: In it did. I didn't think the weather was going

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Speaker 3: Even though the game went over. All the games are

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Speaker 2: Oh, I didn't even realize that. So three of the

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Chiefs worth thirty seven. I believe that was the

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Speaker 2: I know, a ten day forecast isn't the most incredible

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Speaker 1: High of fifty four, not bad, not bad.

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Speaker 2: This is where Arnie tells you that last year, if

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Speaker 3: Right, Well, we had to play in weather like minus

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Speaker 2: Andrews fumble, that was just a good football play. That

442
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Speaker 2: was an amazing football play. Dude just basically punched it out.

443
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Speaker 2: And you know, Mark Andrew's got to be better ball security.

444
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Speaker 2: But you see, do you see what our buddy mustang

445
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Speaker 2: mania centis and this is making the round Mark Andrews

446
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Speaker 2: drop looked just like the Jackie Smith touchdown drop and

447
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Speaker 2: the Cowboys Steelers Super Bowl. Surprisely, no one on the

448
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Speaker 2: four letter made that comparison. Now, again, that was a

449
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Speaker 2: touchdown pass in the back of the end zone. This

450
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Speaker 2: was a two point conversion pass that was right on

451
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Speaker 2: the goal line. But the implications, you know, seem kind

452
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Speaker 2: of fitting right there. You felt like, if the Ravens

453
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Speaker 2: would have won that game, I'm sorry, if the Ravens

454
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Speaker 2: would have got that two point conversion, that had a

455
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Speaker 2: really good chance of going into overtime and winning that game.

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Speaker 1: You go back to what year was that, like seventy

457
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Speaker 1: seventy eight in the Super Bowl. He probably felt like

458
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Speaker 1: the Cowboys were going to win that Super Bowl. So

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Speaker 1: I just got wrenching. Man.

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Speaker 3: You see that there was still plenty of time for Buffalo,

461
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Speaker 3: what was like one forty or one and a half,

462
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Speaker 3: so they sure still they could have still come not

463
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Speaker 3: easily and got a field goal out of this.

464
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Speaker 1: I don't know if anything field goal wise was easy

465
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Speaker 1: in that weather.

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Speaker 3: Been. Oh gosh, that's good.

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Speaker 1: You know what I mean, Griz, I have no idea

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Speaker 1: what you just said. You can't twelve.

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Speaker 3: When I saw andrews open, I'm like, oh, that's that's good.

470
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Speaker 3: I just assumed it was a tie game. And then

471
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Speaker 3: because I didn't see it clearly, and then when they

472
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Speaker 3: showed it, I go, did he step out of bounds?

473
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Speaker 3: Did he screw up? I didn't see him drop the

474
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Speaker 3: ball initially when they were saying it was no good,

475
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Speaker 3: so I couldn't believe that he dropped it when he

476
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Speaker 3: when I saw him so wide open, I thought for

477
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Speaker 3: sure he was gonna catch him.

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Speaker 2: How did how did your wife handle things? Her team

479
00:21:26,840 --> 00:21:28,480
Speaker 2: again is on the cusp of a trip to the

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Speaker 2: Super Bowl, right right.

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Speaker 3: Now, she's you know, pretty much even keeled because she

482
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Speaker 3: knows what's in store for her next weekend. Take it on,

483
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Speaker 3: kansasse how are we going to be? Kansas City? We

484
00:21:40,480 --> 00:21:44,080
Speaker 3: had no defense, We had no defense, and you know,

485
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Speaker 3: and during the playoffs, what is Kansas City three and

486
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Speaker 3: zero against Buffalo? It's going it's going to be tough.

487
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Speaker 3: It's it's a tough go around here.

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Speaker 1: You know, do you is there? Here's what I'm trying

489
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Speaker 1: to find.

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Speaker 3: Let's just say Buffalo is a better team because Kansas

491
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Speaker 3: City only a point and have favored in that game.

492
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Speaker 2: So in your mind, you would say, here on see,

493
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Speaker 2: what is today's date? Before we hit midnight on January?

494
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Speaker 1: What day nineteen? It's only the nineteenth? Oh my, yeah, gosh,

495
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Speaker 1: this month is never ending.

496
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Speaker 2: On January nineteenth, twenty twenty five, hour and a half before,

497
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Speaker 2: or at least for me in the Central time zone,

498
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Speaker 2: before we flip to Monday, you're saying you think you

499
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Speaker 2: think Buffalo is a better team than Kansas City.

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Speaker 3: Well that's what the numbers are telling.

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Speaker 1: Now I'm asking I don't care what the numbers, So

502
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Speaker 1: I'm asking Arnie Spaniard, I.

503
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Speaker 3: Do think Buffalo is a better team. Yeah, it might

504
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Speaker 3: not have shown today on the football field, but it's

505
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Speaker 3: not like Kansas City's wowed us anyway. We brought that up.

506
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Speaker 3: I do think that Buffalo is the better team. The

507
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Speaker 3: number is telling you that Buffalo is a better team

508
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Speaker 3: because Kansas City easily is a four point home court

509
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Speaker 3: home field advantage, right, maybe even more than that. So

510
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Speaker 3: the fact that they're only a point and to have

511
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Speaker 3: favorite shows you that if this was on the neutral site,

512
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Speaker 3: Buffal would probably be a three point favorite.

513
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Speaker 1: In that game.

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Speaker 2: I also think that there is a chance, as this

515
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Speaker 2: week goes on, I think that number will trend towards

516
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Speaker 2: Kansas City. I think people are gonna see a point.

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Speaker 2: I get a point in a half, all right, I'm sorry,

518
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Speaker 2: I'm only having to kill a point in a half

519
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Speaker 2: at home and for Kansas City.

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Speaker 1: I think that number is gonna grow a little bit.

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Speaker 1: Could be wrong, but I don't.

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Speaker 2: Think, and I'm not trying to take anything away from you,

523
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Speaker 2: Paul or Bills fans.

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Speaker 1: I think you know it.

525
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Speaker 2: You won the game. No one can take that from you.

526
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Speaker 2: It wasn't the most outstanding performance, but I think people

527
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Speaker 2: are gonna see value in the Chiefs. Next week we'll

528
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Speaker 2: talk to Todd Furman coming up, and obviously Arnie's has

529
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Speaker 2: his picks as then I progresses. But listen, we're all

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Speaker 2: about details, facts and entertainment here on this program. And

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Speaker 2: no one is better at all three than Steve the Saker,

532
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Speaker 2: who comes rolling in. He gets caught up on the

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Speaker 2: day in sports. What's going on?

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Speaker 1: Steve? Hello again, gentlemen.

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Speaker 5: We had playoff divisional playoff wins for Buffalo and Philadelphia,

536
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Speaker 5: so apparently now as we get ready for the conference

537
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Speaker 5: title games next weekend, the Chiefs franchise has been to

538
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Speaker 5: six Super Bowls. Washington has been to five. Wow, Philadelphia

539
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Speaker 5: has been to four so far, and Buffalo four, losing

540
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Speaker 5: four straight in the early nineties. We updated the well,

541
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Speaker 5: actually there was no update needed last night the trivia

542
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Speaker 5: question what four current NFL teams have never even appeared

543
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Speaker 5: in a Super Bowl? There's two old franchises and two

544
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Speaker 5: new ones. Jaguars haven't been, Texans haven't been. Texans haven't

545
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Speaker 5: even been to a conference title game. But the Cleveland

546
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Speaker 5: Browns and Detroit Lions still have never been to a

547
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Speaker 5: Super Bowl. There's a handful of teams that have been

548
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Speaker 5: and lost like Arizona Chargers Tennessee their one appearance there.

549
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Speaker 5: The Baltimore Ravens missed two two point passes in the

550
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Speaker 5: second half and lost by two points season over Buffalo

551
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Speaker 5: twenty seven, twenty five. So the Ravens finish at thirteen

552
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Speaker 5: and six, six and four on the road. There was

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Speaker 5: the late drop, as you mentioned by Mark Andrew. Mark

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Speaker 5: Andrews also had that fumble. We can't forget that, man.

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Speaker 5: And as we talk, and you know this is going

556
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Speaker 5: to happen tomorrow, so let's just get it in advance.

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Speaker 5: As people talk about the late drop, you actually have

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Speaker 5: to talk about Lamar Jackson's day as well. These are

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Speaker 5: two sides of the exact same coin. Yes, he wound

560
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Speaker 5: up with two touchdown passes, but two turnovers as well.

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Speaker 5: His fumble led to a touchdown in the first half

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Speaker 5: in what turned out to be a very close game.

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Speaker 5: Derrick Henry in the lost sixteen carries eighty four yards

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Speaker 5: and a touchdown. So how have the Ravens done on

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Speaker 5: two point attempts? Associated Press says since twenty eighteen twelve

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Speaker 5: for twenty nine only about forty percent success on two

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Speaker 5: point tries for the Baltimore Ribbons.

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Speaker 1: That would be bad.

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Speaker 5: In fact, how about while you're trailing in the fourth quarter,

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Speaker 5: Lamar Jackson in his career going for two, two for nine,

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Speaker 5: Oh my god, I'm trailing in the fourth quarter. That's

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Speaker 5: terrible and needless to say, that includes don't you think

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Speaker 5: those got today?

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Speaker 1: That includes tonight these.

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Speaker 2: Two with is as much of a threat as he

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Speaker 2: is when he gets out sidel like running it that

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Speaker 2: that would be almost eight of nine or almost nine

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Speaker 2: of nine.

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Speaker 5: And of course he rolled out and was clear as

580
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Speaker 5: the tight end was clear on that late pass about

581
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Speaker 5: a minute and a half to go. Another thing we

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Speaker 5: should say in advance, people are saying cost him the game.

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Speaker 3: No, not nearly.

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Speaker 5: The two point conversion would have tied the game, and

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Speaker 5: then Josh Allen would have had a minute and a

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Speaker 5: half left and Tyler Bass had just kicked a fifty

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Speaker 5: one yard field early in the fourth. So once again,

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Speaker 5: please let facts get in the way if I can

589
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Speaker 5: put it that way, and start discussing this game in

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Speaker 5: the next twenty four hours. The amazing stat of course,

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Speaker 5: from the folks at Stead see the Baltimore Ravens did

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Speaker 5: all of this in the same game as a team

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Speaker 5: rushed for at least one hundred and seventy five yards,

594
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Speaker 5: completed seventy percent of their passes, averaged at least ten

595
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Speaker 5: yards per pass tonight, converted seventy percent of their third downs,

596
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Speaker 5: didn't have a single punt, didn't miss a single field goal.

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Speaker 5: No team in NFL well history, had done all those

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Speaker 5: things in one game, playoffs or otherwise, and they still

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Speaker 5: end up losing the game. Each team scored three touchdowns tonight,

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Speaker 5: each team was two for two on field goals, but

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Speaker 5: the Ravens couldn't make a two point pass and they

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Speaker 5: lose by two. So we've got the AFC Championship Game

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Speaker 5: as the second contest next Sunday, Buffalo at Kansas City.

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Speaker 5: The Bills beat them in Buffalo in November. The NFC

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Speaker 5: Championship is on Fox TV next Sunday, three pm Eastern Time,

606
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Speaker 5: Washington at Philadelphia, same division. They split their two regular

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Speaker 5: season meetings, and correct no snow in the forecast.

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Speaker 1: For that one Monday night.

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Speaker 5: College Football's national title game in Atlanta, eight seed Ohio

610
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Speaker 5: State against seven seed Notre Dame. Everything's final in the NBA.

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Speaker 5: Once we wrap up this, oh And it has just

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Speaker 5: gone final, this game where Portland actually wins one thirteen,

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Speaker 5: one oh two over the Bulls. Clippers in their home

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Speaker 5: arena which just opened this season, beat the Lakers pretty

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Speaker 5: easily one sixteen, one oh two. Other win for Oklahoma City, Milwaukee,

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Speaker 5: and Sacramento with home victories, And in college Hoops Top

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Speaker 5: twenty matchup at Michigan State went to the Spartans over

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Speaker 5: Illinois eighty two seventy eight.

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Speaker 1: Back to you, all right, thanks Steve.

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Speaker 2: We're coming to you live from the tire rack dot

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Speaker 2: Com studios tyre rack dot Com. The way tire buying

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Speaker 2: should be. Yeah, and Mark Andrew's gonna take heat, you know.

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Speaker 2: I mean, he's an Oklahoma guy, so I'm gonna support him,

624
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Speaker 2: and I got stories I'll share throughout the night about him.

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Speaker 2: But Arnie, you got to keep it in mind. You

626
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Speaker 2: said it. The Sagre just brought it up. The Bills

627
00:28:31,119 --> 00:28:33,600
Speaker 2: are gonna get the football back even if he makes

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Speaker 2: that play.

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Speaker 3: So and a minute and a half left to go

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Speaker 3: ahead and win the game. Anyway, nybe, I heard Willard

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Speaker 3: bring this up. Does this make a difference in anything

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Speaker 3: that I guess Before the game, there's video of Andrews out.

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Speaker 1: There, well, but everyone does that.

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Speaker 2: Every single Twitter feed on the planet does that with

635
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Speaker 2: a from the Ravens to the commanders to the chiefs.

636
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Speaker 2: Everyone always has someone warming up and take a videos

637
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Speaker 2: like Shaw walked in ready to go, not afraid of

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Speaker 2: the cold.

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Speaker 1: Right, that's what you're talking about.

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Speaker 3: Right that he was wearing shorts and a tank top.

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Speaker 3: I never understood one thing. If it's gonna be real cold,

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Speaker 3: why don't you just put on the long sleeves shirts.

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Speaker 3: And I'm talking about all the players especially, you get

644
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Speaker 3: kind of like a better grip, Your hands don't get cold,

645
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Speaker 3: your arms don't get as cold, and maybe you hold

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Speaker 3: onto the ball better. I just understand why every rea's

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Speaker 3: not putting on long sleeves, to be honest.

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Speaker 2: Well, some say the long sleeves, uh take away? It

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Speaker 2: doesn't right right right from talking to the foot I

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Speaker 2: don't know. I just know I've never really understood that

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Speaker 2: when I'm cold, I want to be bundled up.

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Speaker 3: I don't.

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Speaker 2: I mean, did you see the defensive tackle for the Bills.

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Speaker 2: I think it was Jordan Phillips had like a winter

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Speaker 2: jacket on underneath his uniform.

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Speaker 1: That's what I would be doing. I would probably wear

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Speaker 1: a scarf too, is what I would be doing. It's

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Speaker 1: even if you live in the cold weather, aren't it sucks?

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Speaker 1: It does.

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Speaker 3: That's why I have in my car. I have the

661
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Speaker 3: cold weather package so I can start my car up.

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Speaker 3: I started like twenty minutes early before I go out.

663
00:30:02,520 --> 00:30:04,680
Speaker 3: It's nice and toasty by the time I get to

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Speaker 3: the car.

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Speaker 2: Can I We've talked a lot about the frustration for

666
00:30:08,480 --> 00:30:11,000
Speaker 2: the Ravens. Maybe we haven't spent enough time tipping our

667
00:30:11,080 --> 00:30:13,360
Speaker 2: cap to the Bills and the Eagles for advancing today.

668
00:30:13,600 --> 00:30:15,160
Speaker 2: But can I had one more thing that blew my

669
00:30:15,200 --> 00:30:17,840
Speaker 2: mind when I saw it about the about the Rams,

670
00:30:17,880 --> 00:30:19,520
Speaker 2: just as a tip of the cap to them.

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Speaker 1: This year. They only have two first round picks on

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Speaker 1: their roster since twenty sixteen.

673
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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, they do a trading of those two.

674
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Speaker 2: Well, let me rephrase that two players they picked in

675
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Speaker 2: the first round since twenty sixteen, and one of them

676
00:30:32,720 --> 00:30:34,400
Speaker 2: was Jared Urts, who ended up being great out of

677
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Speaker 2: Florida State this year.

678
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Speaker 1: The first round pick.

679
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Speaker 2: Do you know the other one is since twenty sixteen,

680
00:30:38,600 --> 00:30:41,320
Speaker 2: that was the first round pick by the Rams.

681
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Speaker 3: No, who is that?

682
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Speaker 1: Jared Golf?

683
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Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, right, So, I mean, they don't even

684
00:30:46,080 --> 00:30:48,360
Speaker 2: have one of their first round picks on their roster

685
00:30:48,760 --> 00:30:50,560
Speaker 2: over the last eight years, and they have just done

686
00:30:50,720 --> 00:30:55,120
Speaker 2: such an incredible job of finding value in the third, fourth, fifth, sixth,

687
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Speaker 2: and seventh rounds.

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Speaker 1: It's incredible, especially wide receiver right with Cooper. My god,

689
00:31:00,520 --> 00:31:02,040
Speaker 1: it's incredible what they've done.

690
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Speaker 2: So I think in a lot of ways how Detroit

691
00:31:05,480 --> 00:31:09,480
Speaker 2: is put together their roster, they're the envy of the

692
00:31:09,600 --> 00:31:12,720
Speaker 2: NFL right now. Man, I still I just can't get

693
00:31:12,760 --> 00:31:14,440
Speaker 2: over how the Rams do it year in and year out,

694
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Speaker 2: and even you know, even in their down year whenever

695
00:31:17,240 --> 00:31:19,160
Speaker 2: Stafford got hurt a couple of years ago, remember they

696
00:31:19,200 --> 00:31:22,040
Speaker 2: brought in Baker Mayfield beat the Raiders on a Thursday

697
00:31:22,080 --> 00:31:23,440
Speaker 2: night when he'd been there for two days.

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Speaker 1: They're just they find a way.

699
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Speaker 2: And I know that it's frustrating whenever you won a

700
00:31:28,760 --> 00:31:30,800
Speaker 2: Super Bowl and you haven't quite got back to that

701
00:31:30,960 --> 00:31:33,960
Speaker 2: level over the last three years yet. But man, if

702
00:31:34,000 --> 00:31:37,400
Speaker 2: they just start a little bit better, look out. I mean,

703
00:31:37,480 --> 00:31:40,360
Speaker 2: I just mcveigh's a witch man less Snead has done

704
00:31:40,400 --> 00:31:41,280
Speaker 2: an incredible job.

705
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Speaker 1: I know.

706
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Speaker 2: We close the door on twenty twenty four and into

707
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Speaker 2: twenty five, we start preparing. But I mean, even if

708
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Speaker 2: Matt Stafford decides to retire and not come back, are

709
00:31:50,720 --> 00:31:52,280
Speaker 2: you doubting at all? If the Rams are going to

710
00:31:52,320 --> 00:31:54,960
Speaker 2: find someone that Sean McVay can make mark in that offense.

711
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Speaker 3: They'll get a quarterback. But I don't think he's going

712
00:31:56,440 --> 00:31:58,640
Speaker 3: to retire. I think I don't even I think he'll

713
00:31:58,680 --> 00:32:00,960
Speaker 3: come back. You know, he'll give a little bit of thought,

714
00:32:01,040 --> 00:32:03,120
Speaker 3: but I think he'll come back when when it's a

715
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Speaker 3: And by the way, so you were mentioning the Lions. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: I was kind of thrown back. Campbell very emotional he

717
00:32:10,400 --> 00:32:14,440
Speaker 3: was after the game. Did you expect that or what?

718
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Speaker 1: I feel like that's kind of become his momo.

719
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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: I think he's just wearing it. And I think they

721
00:32:19,520 --> 00:32:22,600
Speaker 1: feel like they missed a golden opportunity this year. How

722
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Speaker 1: can you not?

723
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Speaker 3: I know it was like it was a close game,

724
00:32:26,760 --> 00:32:27,200
Speaker 3: that's no.

725
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Speaker 2: Yeah, no, they got smoked, right, And I think Dan

726
00:32:31,560 --> 00:32:34,560
Speaker 2: Campbell gets it, and I think a majority of fans

727
00:32:35,480 --> 00:32:37,680
Speaker 2: of a team that struggled for a really long time

728
00:32:37,720 --> 00:32:41,400
Speaker 2: get it. These opportunities just don't come every single year, right,

729
00:32:41,640 --> 00:32:44,360
Speaker 2: you know, you know that you're in good shape, but

730
00:32:44,440 --> 00:32:47,840
Speaker 2: you also know you're an injury away from things going

731
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Speaker 2: south or just like it did.

732
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Speaker 1: This year for him. So I think it's emotional because they.

733
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Speaker 2: Dude, I felt like if you went back to the

734
00:32:54,880 --> 00:32:57,640
Speaker 2: middle of it, before the Aide Hutchinson injury and maybe

735
00:32:57,640 --> 00:32:59,880
Speaker 2: even a little bit after it, I still felt like

736
00:33:00,040 --> 00:33:01,200
Speaker 2: they were a team that was going to end up

737
00:33:01,200 --> 00:33:03,280
Speaker 2: playing in the Super Bowl, right, So it really did.

738
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Speaker 3: So he's emotional because he knows it doesn't come around

739
00:33:06,400 --> 00:33:07,240
Speaker 3: all the time.

740
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Speaker 1: And he's coordinators probably right there.

741
00:33:09,800 --> 00:33:12,680
Speaker 3: They are number one seed, they lose, So is the

742
00:33:12,720 --> 00:33:14,800
Speaker 3: whole season a complete waste of time? Then it's a

743
00:33:14,840 --> 00:33:15,640
Speaker 3: complete failure.

744
00:33:15,800 --> 00:33:18,160
Speaker 2: Well let's talk about that next. It's Arnie in Plank

745
00:33:18,240 --> 00:33:19,680
Speaker 2: right here on Fox Sports Radio.

746
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Speaker 4: Fox Sports Radio has the best sports talk lineup in

747
00:33:22,960 --> 00:33:26,320
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748
00:33:26,480 --> 00:33:30,560
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749
00:33:30,680 --> 00:33:31,360
Speaker 4: listen live.

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Speaker 1: So you asked the question, Arnie, and I think it's

751
00:33:33,920 --> 00:33:34,480
Speaker 1: a fair one.

752
00:33:36,280 --> 00:33:43,000
Speaker 2: As a Lions fan or just someone that is an

753
00:33:43,120 --> 00:33:46,760
Speaker 2: NFL fan boy that's hopefully one hundred percent of our audience.

754
00:33:46,760 --> 00:33:48,560
Speaker 2: And I based on where this show is going, ye

755
00:33:48,680 --> 00:33:51,040
Speaker 2: would you look at this season for the Lions as

756
00:33:51,080 --> 00:33:53,880
Speaker 2: a disappointment because it came up short of its goal.

757
00:33:54,120 --> 00:33:57,160
Speaker 3: Well, you changed the word disappointment a little.

758
00:33:57,160 --> 00:33:59,720
Speaker 1: Of course, it's not a disappointment overall.

759
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Speaker 2: But with all the Cats, they talked, oh my gosh,

760
00:34:02,800 --> 00:34:05,800
Speaker 2: line fans. You went from being oh, look, how good

761
00:34:05,840 --> 00:34:08,799
Speaker 2: for them to be insufferable in the span of like

762
00:34:08,920 --> 00:34:09,799
Speaker 2: six months.

763
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Speaker 3: I'm gonna say it's not a failure. They won the division,

764
00:34:14,040 --> 00:34:17,520
Speaker 3: they were the number one seed. They're still taking baby steps,

765
00:34:17,560 --> 00:34:21,080
Speaker 3: they're still digging their way out of a bad what

766
00:34:21,280 --> 00:34:25,319
Speaker 3: fifty years or so, sure of being the Detroit Lions. Now,

767
00:34:25,560 --> 00:34:28,040
Speaker 3: if this happened to the Kansas City Chiefs, whether the

768
00:34:28,160 --> 00:34:31,720
Speaker 3: number one seed and they lost, absolutely the seasons of failure.

769
00:34:32,080 --> 00:34:36,040
Speaker 3: If it happened in Philadelphia, seasons of failure, Baltimore seasons

770
00:34:36,080 --> 00:34:39,720
Speaker 3: of failure, Buffalo seasons of failure. But for some reason,

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00:34:39,760 --> 00:34:43,920
Speaker 3: I'm not willing to put that label on Detroit because

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00:34:43,960 --> 00:34:47,400
Speaker 3: it's still somewhat new to them to win a division,

773
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Speaker 3: to be a number one seed. And they did play

774
00:34:50,120 --> 00:34:53,520
Speaker 3: a hot team in the Commanders, though still should have

775
00:34:53,520 --> 00:34:55,759
Speaker 3: won that game. And then there was the injuries, so

776
00:34:55,960 --> 00:34:58,240
Speaker 3: all of that I'm gonna say, no, it wasn't a failure,

777
00:34:58,280 --> 00:34:59,640
Speaker 3: but for a lot of other teams.

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Speaker 1: It would have been. Okay, Well, you are really given

779
00:35:02,760 --> 00:35:05,040
Speaker 1: the Lions a pass tonight. I don't give it too

780
00:35:05,120 --> 00:35:06,879
Speaker 1: much of a pass to them. I don't know, it's

781
00:35:06,920 --> 00:35:11,120
Speaker 1: just it seems like you are. And I'm not denying

782
00:35:11,160 --> 00:35:15,000
Speaker 1: it or arguing with you. But you mentioned the history.

783
00:35:15,120 --> 00:35:19,680
Speaker 2: Two things happened in back to back seasons that haven't

784
00:35:19,719 --> 00:35:23,919
Speaker 2: happened in the history of the Detroit Lions. They won

785
00:35:23,960 --> 00:35:26,640
Speaker 2: ten or more games that have never happened in their

786
00:35:28,000 --> 00:35:28,719
Speaker 2: team's history.

787
00:35:28,719 --> 00:35:30,319
Speaker 1: I say school's history.

788
00:35:30,360 --> 00:35:32,960
Speaker 2: Never that twelve and five last year are two years

789
00:35:32,960 --> 00:35:35,640
Speaker 2: agoing out fifteen and two last year, and they had

790
00:35:35,680 --> 00:35:38,920
Speaker 2: never won their division in back to back seasons ever,

791
00:35:39,360 --> 00:35:42,040
Speaker 2: and they did that this year. So you know, they

792
00:35:42,080 --> 00:35:46,359
Speaker 2: maybe if there's anyone in their fan base that's that's

793
00:35:46,400 --> 00:35:48,799
Speaker 2: crying about that or they all tear it down.

794
00:35:49,080 --> 00:35:52,120
Speaker 3: No stop, No, they're not doing that. Nobody's saying that.

795
00:35:52,200 --> 00:35:54,719
Speaker 2: It's a really well I don't going that for it's

796
00:35:54,760 --> 00:35:57,359
Speaker 2: a really solid roster and I don't think they're going

797
00:35:57,360 --> 00:35:58,000
Speaker 2: anywhere now.

798
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Speaker 3: By the way, Campbell should have a job as long

799
00:36:01,120 --> 00:36:04,520
Speaker 3: as Tomlin's at a job in Pittsburgh's. That's how much

800
00:36:04,520 --> 00:36:06,880
Speaker 3: he's turned around of culture. Well, there should never be

801
00:36:07,719 --> 00:36:09,680
Speaker 3: a question whether if he should be that coach.

802
00:36:09,920 --> 00:36:12,560
Speaker 2: Well, hold on, I think you misconstrued when I said

803
00:36:12,600 --> 00:36:15,200
Speaker 2: tear it down. I think a lot of times people

804
00:36:15,480 --> 00:36:19,320
Speaker 2: view that as firing a coach. There is a faction

805
00:36:19,440 --> 00:36:21,279
Speaker 2: of that fan base that I think says, we've got

806
00:36:21,280 --> 00:36:23,839
Speaker 2: to do some things different roster wise, like, hey, what's

807
00:36:23,920 --> 00:36:25,680
Speaker 2: Hinton Hooker doing there? Is he going to be a

808
00:36:25,719 --> 00:36:27,640
Speaker 2: starting quarterback ever in this league or not? Why are

809
00:36:27,680 --> 00:36:30,240
Speaker 2: we paying Jared Goff to turn it over four times?

810
00:36:30,280 --> 00:36:30,759
Speaker 1: Things like that.

811
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Speaker 2: I don't think Dan Campbell is ever going to go

812
00:36:33,080 --> 00:36:36,360
Speaker 2: anywhere unless the bottom early falls out the next two years.

813
00:36:36,960 --> 00:36:38,680
Speaker 1: And it wasn't even a game yesterday where you could

814
00:36:38,680 --> 00:36:41,400
Speaker 1: get mad at him for their overly aggressive approach, but

815
00:36:41,640 --> 00:36:47,120
Speaker 1: disappointed absolutely failure. No, not at all.

816
00:36:47,320 --> 00:36:50,680
Speaker 2: I think that that is that is really a tough

817
00:36:50,800 --> 00:36:53,319
Speaker 2: label to put on a team that did what they

818
00:36:53,360 --> 00:36:56,560
Speaker 2: did overcame as you brought up Arnie, all those defensive injuries,

819
00:36:57,160 --> 00:37:01,600
Speaker 2: named one guy and everything that. I mean, Listen, a

820
00:37:01,600 --> 00:37:04,440
Speaker 2: lot of time they were their own worst enemy, and

821
00:37:04,440 --> 00:37:06,080
Speaker 2: their losses man their turnover socked.

822
00:37:06,160 --> 00:37:10,040
Speaker 3: I forgot which announcers said that. Don't be surprised if

823
00:37:10,080 --> 00:37:14,400
Speaker 3: Gibbs becomes the number one starter for Detroit, Montgomery goes

824
00:37:14,440 --> 00:37:17,440
Speaker 3: to probably a backup role or who knows? I said,

825
00:37:17,800 --> 00:37:20,320
Speaker 3: you know, do you have that luxury of keeping both

826
00:37:20,360 --> 00:37:23,440
Speaker 3: guys or do you trade one and try to go ahead?

827
00:37:23,440 --> 00:37:25,480
Speaker 3: And because you can get a nice little return for

828
00:37:25,560 --> 00:37:26,719
Speaker 3: one of those guys.

829
00:37:26,440 --> 00:37:27,040
Speaker 1: You would think.

830
00:37:27,680 --> 00:37:32,279
Speaker 2: But oh, I mean, Arnie, you're you're losing your mind

831
00:37:32,280 --> 00:37:35,840
Speaker 2: about David Montgomery? Who I mean you've got under contract

832
00:37:35,960 --> 00:37:37,160
Speaker 2: until twenty twenty seven.

833
00:37:37,280 --> 00:37:40,399
Speaker 3: Oh, he would bring a nice little handsome reward there.

834
00:37:40,520 --> 00:37:42,560
Speaker 1: What do you think you could get for David Montgomery

835
00:37:42,560 --> 00:37:43,160
Speaker 1: into trade?

836
00:37:45,320 --> 00:37:46,759
Speaker 3: Would I get a first round?

837
00:37:46,880 --> 00:37:47,760
Speaker 1: No?

838
00:37:47,760 --> 00:37:51,320
Speaker 3: No, get he's available for a first Roundrob all ears

839
00:37:51,320 --> 00:37:51,520
Speaker 3: for that.

840
00:37:52,200 --> 00:37:52,840
Speaker 1: Would you would?

841
00:37:52,960 --> 00:37:55,239
Speaker 2: If you're the Dolphins, you would trade your first round

842
00:37:55,280 --> 00:37:56,480
Speaker 2: pick for David Montgomery?

843
00:37:56,760 --> 00:38:00,120
Speaker 3: No, I'm saying if if I'm Detroit, I'm listening to dolphers.

844
00:37:59,800 --> 00:38:02,040
Speaker 1: That okay, Well, you're not getting a first round pick

845
00:38:02,040 --> 00:38:03,600
Speaker 1: for him. Don't think you're getting a second round pick

846
00:38:03,640 --> 00:38:04,080
Speaker 1: for me either.

847
00:38:04,080 --> 00:38:05,640
Speaker 3: Oh wow, then forget about it.

848
00:38:06,800 --> 00:38:08,440
Speaker 1: That's me. That's my opinion.

849
00:38:08,520 --> 00:38:11,799
Speaker 2: I don't then I don't think there's any running back

850
00:38:11,840 --> 00:38:13,400
Speaker 2: in the league right now that you're gonna get a

851
00:38:13,400 --> 00:38:16,880
Speaker 2: first round pick for I'll tell you what. I know

852
00:38:16,960 --> 00:38:21,240
Speaker 2: that you're a little bit I would say jaded because

853
00:38:21,239 --> 00:38:24,359
Speaker 2: every so often your Giant fandom comes out. But if

854
00:38:24,360 --> 00:38:26,080
Speaker 2: you want to talk about a fan base that should

855
00:38:26,160 --> 00:38:29,960
Speaker 2: be jilted and bittered and frustrated about things, watching Saquon

856
00:38:30,080 --> 00:38:33,759
Speaker 2: do this in Philadelphia, Oh my gosh, Arnie, Giants fans

857
00:38:33,800 --> 00:38:35,520
Speaker 2: have got to be losing their minds, right.

858
00:38:35,440 --> 00:38:37,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, but he's had so many years in New York.

859
00:38:37,200 --> 00:38:38,960
Speaker 3: He was never gonna go ahead. And really, I mean

860
00:38:39,160 --> 00:38:41,080
Speaker 3: not that he wasn't a great player for New York,

861
00:38:41,080 --> 00:38:42,520
Speaker 3: but he was never gonna put up that type of

862
00:38:42,560 --> 00:38:45,840
Speaker 3: year with the Giants like you did with Philadelphia. Two different,

863
00:38:46,440 --> 00:38:50,480
Speaker 3: you know, two different type of organizations, and Philadelphia is

864
00:38:50,520 --> 00:38:52,440
Speaker 3: just so much better from top to bottom.

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Speaker 2: I feel like I feel like you're having this moment

866
00:38:54,840 --> 00:38:56,640
Speaker 2: where I need to be like, hey, it's not your fault.

867
00:38:56,760 --> 00:38:59,160
Speaker 2: It's not your fault, all right, just just you're trying

868
00:38:59,200 --> 00:38:59,640
Speaker 2: to deny it.

869
00:38:59,640 --> 00:39:00,160
Speaker 1: It's so ok.

870
00:39:00,760 --> 00:39:03,560
Speaker 2: It sucks. You can excuse it away all you want.

871
00:39:03,600 --> 00:39:06,239
Speaker 2: Giants fans, but it sucks. I mean, that's your.

872
00:39:06,239 --> 00:39:09,600
Speaker 1: Rival, right, are the little shocked at the Giants rival.

873
00:39:09,800 --> 00:39:11,640
Speaker 3: I was a little shocked that he gave Daniel Jones

874
00:39:11,640 --> 00:39:13,400
Speaker 3: a ticket to the suite. I thought they were like

875
00:39:13,560 --> 00:39:15,840
Speaker 3: I wanted them to be like bitter enemies or something.

876
00:39:16,600 --> 00:39:19,920
Speaker 1: You wanted Saquon and Daniel Jones to be hated enemy exactly.

877
00:39:20,040 --> 00:39:22,640
Speaker 3: Yeah, we hate each other.

878
00:39:23,560 --> 00:39:24,600
Speaker 1: Eagles advance.

879
00:39:24,719 --> 00:39:28,760
Speaker 2: They'll host the NFC Championship game next week against Philadelphia.

880
00:39:29,120 --> 00:39:31,480
Speaker 2: Twenty eight to twenty two was the final score over

881
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Speaker 2: the Rams. Bill survive against the Ravens twenty seven to

882
00:39:35,239 --> 00:39:38,239
Speaker 2: twenty five. They'll take on the Chiefs next Sunday. Those

883
00:39:38,280 --> 00:39:41,960
Speaker 2: start times three o'clock eastern for the Commander's Eagles game.

884
00:39:41,960 --> 00:39:45,960
Speaker 2: That's gonna be on Fox Bill's Chiefs six thirty eastern

885
00:39:46,560 --> 00:39:47,120
Speaker 2: on the CBS.

886
00:39:47,239 --> 00:39:49,360
Speaker 3: Took a nap, didn't have to get them so early,

887
00:39:50,120 --> 00:39:52,359
Speaker 3: kind of like those Star times. Chris, not too bad.

888
00:39:52,560 --> 00:39:55,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, and uh, it just it seemed like it flowed.

889
00:39:55,239 --> 00:39:57,880
Speaker 2: I don't like when it takes too long between games.

890
00:39:58,200 --> 00:40:00,440
Speaker 1: I don't like that. I don't like that. I like

891
00:40:00,520 --> 00:40:02,960
Speaker 1: that it seemed to flow rather quickly. Okay, we're just

892
00:40:03,040 --> 00:40:03,800
Speaker 1: getting started.

893
00:40:03,840 --> 00:40:06,080
Speaker 2: One hour down, two to go your text to kickoff

894
00:40:06,200 --> 00:40:10,400
Speaker 2: next hour tweets exs and Todd Furman right around the

895
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Speaker 2: corner with Arnie and Plank on Fox Sports Radio. We

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Speaker 2: were all in Arnie at hour number two. It's Arnian

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Speaker 3: You're right the way seven to one on my picks,

903
00:40:35,320 --> 00:40:38,319
Speaker 3: fourteen to two over the last couple wek not too

904
00:40:38,400 --> 00:40:39,880
Speaker 3: shabby on not too bad.

905
00:40:41,280 --> 00:40:43,640
Speaker 1: You have proof of this. I haven't seen your picks

906
00:40:43,680 --> 00:40:44,480
Speaker 1: posted anywhere.

907
00:40:44,560 --> 00:40:46,879
Speaker 3: I put it on Twitter. Well, what do you mean,

908
00:40:46,960 --> 00:40:49,040
Speaker 3: it's like I sent you that. I think it's one

909
00:40:49,080 --> 00:40:52,960
Speaker 3: of the biggest sports stories of the year, only put

910
00:40:53,000 --> 00:40:54,160
Speaker 3: on Twitter. What about that?

911
00:40:54,840 --> 00:40:57,560
Speaker 2: Well, what's one of the biggest sports story of the

912
00:40:57,600 --> 00:41:01,040
Speaker 2: year is the AFC Championship In NFC Championship Games being said.

913
00:41:01,200 --> 00:41:03,439
Speaker 3: How great I picked this year?

914
00:41:04,480 --> 00:41:06,480
Speaker 1: This year? Yeah, the whole season.

915
00:41:06,760 --> 00:41:08,799
Speaker 3: Well, I started off solaw, but I picked it up

916
00:41:08,840 --> 00:41:09,160
Speaker 3: after that.

917
00:41:09,239 --> 00:41:11,920
Speaker 1: He started slow. Listen, quit lying to the people. Okay,

918
00:41:12,360 --> 00:41:12,839
Speaker 1: put I.

919
00:41:12,880 --> 00:41:14,279
Speaker 3: Sent you the article, did I not?

920
00:41:15,239 --> 00:41:15,319
Speaker 1: No?

921
00:41:16,160 --> 00:41:17,600
Speaker 3: I have it right here. You want me to read

922
00:41:17,640 --> 00:41:18,160
Speaker 3: it to you?

923
00:41:18,440 --> 00:41:18,680
Speaker 1: Sure.

924
00:41:19,360 --> 00:41:21,919
Speaker 3: One of the biggest gambling stories of twenty twenty four

925
00:41:22,800 --> 00:41:26,719
Speaker 3: was the success of sports betters in Vermont. Betters did

926
00:41:26,800 --> 00:41:29,880
Speaker 3: so well that the state didn't make enough tax revenue

927
00:41:29,880 --> 00:41:33,640
Speaker 3: from sports books to meet its physical year budget projections.

928
00:41:33,840 --> 00:41:35,840
Speaker 1: Well you don't bet, though, you just talk about who do.

929
00:41:35,880 --> 00:41:38,440
Speaker 3: You think gave the winners to the people of Vermont?

930
00:41:38,800 --> 00:41:41,040
Speaker 3: It was me, Well, what do you think they're getting

931
00:41:41,080 --> 00:41:41,799
Speaker 3: their winners from?

932
00:41:41,840 --> 00:41:49,279
Speaker 1: I mean the opposite, the opposite. Shut that's he even

933
00:41:49,320 --> 00:41:51,759
Speaker 1: cuts them off too. It's like, right on, cue shut up.

934
00:41:52,000 --> 00:41:54,560
Speaker 3: That was perfect to cut him out, right, I said,

935
00:41:54,600 --> 00:41:55,160
Speaker 3: shut up?

936
00:41:55,800 --> 00:41:59,000
Speaker 1: Uh? Well, I mean even you have to admit I'm

937
00:41:59,040 --> 00:42:02,360
Speaker 1: affecting the econ to me here, if you bet on

938
00:42:02,640 --> 00:42:05,120
Speaker 1: every single one of your picks this year, would you

939
00:42:05,160 --> 00:42:05,920
Speaker 1: have made money?

940
00:42:06,120 --> 00:42:06,319
Speaker 4: Oh?

941
00:42:06,400 --> 00:42:08,040
Speaker 3: I'm sure it made millions.

942
00:42:09,440 --> 00:42:12,920
Speaker 2: I'm seeing an NFC Championship games showing.

943
00:42:13,200 --> 00:42:16,000
Speaker 3: The people in Vermont are taking my picks, and they

944
00:42:16,040 --> 00:42:20,040
Speaker 3: did so well that we can't even make money off them.

945
00:42:20,080 --> 00:42:20,960
Speaker 1: Now, it's wild.

946
00:42:21,160 --> 00:42:24,040
Speaker 2: I mean for someone who has one official betting slip

947
00:42:24,080 --> 00:42:24,719
Speaker 2: that we've seen.

948
00:42:25,080 --> 00:42:27,200
Speaker 3: Who who do you think they're taking their picks from

949
00:42:27,280 --> 00:42:29,680
Speaker 3: right here in Vermont. I'm the only person who does

950
00:42:29,680 --> 00:42:31,240
Speaker 3: a national show here in Vermont.

951
00:42:31,640 --> 00:42:35,319
Speaker 1: Have you what is like the population of Vermont? Like

952
00:42:35,400 --> 00:42:40,200
Speaker 1: ten people? I know, right, fifteen something like that? Well, congratulations?

953
00:42:40,239 --> 00:42:41,080
Speaker 1: Is that what you need here?

954
00:42:41,640 --> 00:42:44,400
Speaker 3: Well, I mean it would be nice to let people

955
00:42:44,440 --> 00:42:47,239
Speaker 3: know when when I was doing bad, it was due

956
00:42:47,239 --> 00:42:48,280
Speaker 3: Blank's pigs.

957
00:42:50,160 --> 00:42:52,160
Speaker 1: I'm still waiting for walking playing me too.

958
00:42:52,520 --> 00:42:54,960
Speaker 2: And the second thing is you change. You'll do picks

959
00:42:54,960 --> 00:42:56,839
Speaker 2: on the air, and then you'll do something completely. It's

960
00:42:56,880 --> 00:42:58,759
Speaker 2: like you you give bets on the You're like the

961
00:42:58,800 --> 00:43:02,319
Speaker 2: old nine hundred numbers. You'll give them here and then

962
00:43:02,320 --> 00:43:05,000
Speaker 2: you'll give another pick that you write down on your pad.

963
00:43:05,320 --> 00:43:06,840
Speaker 1: So you're like hedging your bets.

964
00:43:06,960 --> 00:43:09,080
Speaker 3: That's I just I don't give both sides.

965
00:43:09,120 --> 00:43:09,360
Speaker 1: I'm not.

966
00:43:09,440 --> 00:43:12,680
Speaker 3: I'm not like a town service or something. But Arnie's answers,

967
00:43:12,719 --> 00:43:13,560
Speaker 3: I think is a good one.

968
00:43:13,560 --> 00:43:18,279
Speaker 2: Now, there you got Arnie's answers now apparently affecting the

969
00:43:18,320 --> 00:43:19,400
Speaker 2: economy of Delaware.

970
00:43:19,440 --> 00:43:22,120
Speaker 1: Congratulations Vermont, Vermont, Yes.

971
00:43:23,520 --> 00:43:26,400
Speaker 2: One, whatever it takes, all right, to the tweets of

972
00:43:26,440 --> 00:43:28,279
Speaker 2: the show tonight and then Todd Berman's coming up here

973
00:43:28,280 --> 00:43:28,600
Speaker 2: in a bit.

974
00:43:29,000 --> 00:43:32,000
Speaker 1: I'm curious to get your your take on Keith's tweet

975
00:43:32,040 --> 00:43:34,399
Speaker 1: to the program. I keep saying, text, tweets, exes, whatever

976
00:43:34,440 --> 00:43:36,239
Speaker 1: you want to call him. He hits us up with this.

977
00:43:36,440 --> 00:43:40,600
Speaker 1: I'm over bad weather games. Man mandate domes for every

978
00:43:40,640 --> 00:43:45,440
Speaker 1: team for maximum entertainment. I know, esthetically, the slow the

979
00:43:45,480 --> 00:43:48,399
Speaker 1: snow games are pretty freaking awesome, that's for sure. As

980
00:43:48,400 --> 00:43:51,320
Speaker 1: far as execution and fundamentals, it's not fun.

981
00:43:51,520 --> 00:43:54,479
Speaker 3: What about for Super Bowls? Are you for both dome

982
00:43:54,520 --> 00:43:55,600
Speaker 3: games for Super Bowls?

983
00:43:57,760 --> 00:44:01,000
Speaker 2: Gosh, we had them. We have the rain super Bowl

984
00:44:01,120 --> 00:44:03,160
Speaker 2: for the Colts. I feel like the weather games are

985
00:44:03,200 --> 00:44:05,239
Speaker 2: few and far between the Super Bowls.

986
00:44:05,000 --> 00:44:06,920
Speaker 3: In we had New York one year. I forget, but

987
00:44:07,000 --> 00:44:07,720
Speaker 3: it was nice.

988
00:44:08,080 --> 00:44:11,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, I like the elements being a part of it.

989
00:44:11,680 --> 00:44:14,960
Speaker 2: I do keep, but I completely understand where you're coming from.

990
00:44:15,000 --> 00:44:17,000
Speaker 3: I don't like the elements to be a part of

991
00:44:17,000 --> 00:44:19,680
Speaker 3: it if it's not really it's somebody's home field, is

992
00:44:19,719 --> 00:44:22,160
Speaker 3: my point, Even if it's a neutral site that I'd

993
00:44:22,280 --> 00:44:25,040
Speaker 3: rather have it just be good weather and let's play

994
00:44:25,080 --> 00:44:25,439
Speaker 3: the game.

995
00:44:26,000 --> 00:44:28,960
Speaker 2: How many super Bowls are actually not in domes over

996
00:44:29,000 --> 00:44:30,480
Speaker 2: the next few seasons.

997
00:44:30,520 --> 00:44:31,480
Speaker 3: Oh, I have no idea.

998
00:44:31,960 --> 00:44:35,120
Speaker 2: Look the future sites for Super Bowls because this year

999
00:44:35,840 --> 00:44:39,880
Speaker 2: is in New Orleans, Non Leans. Next year is a

1000
00:44:40,000 --> 00:44:43,239
Speaker 2: Levi Stadium that's outdoors, but that's Santa Clara, right. Then

1001
00:44:43,239 --> 00:44:47,080
Speaker 2: you have Sofi Stadium. Then you're in Mercedes Benz Stadium

1002
00:44:47,080 --> 00:44:50,280
Speaker 2: in Atlanta. So three of the next four are indoors anyway,

1003
00:44:51,000 --> 00:44:52,600
Speaker 2: So I don't I mean, and I don't know if

1004
00:44:52,600 --> 00:44:55,560
Speaker 2: they're set beyond twenty twenty eight, more often than not

1005
00:44:55,719 --> 00:44:57,760
Speaker 2: they're indoors anyway, Are you are you moving?

1006
00:44:57,960 --> 00:44:58,200
Speaker 1: Is this?

1007
00:44:58,280 --> 00:45:01,880
Speaker 2: Aren't officially throwing it out that you're okay with weather

1008
00:45:01,960 --> 00:45:05,640
Speaker 2: games in divisional and conference championship games, but you want

1009
00:45:05,719 --> 00:45:06,839
Speaker 2: domes for the Super Bowl.

1010
00:45:06,960 --> 00:45:09,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, if it's going to be a home field, then

1011
00:45:09,200 --> 00:45:12,680
Speaker 3: let's go whatever the home team has weatherwise installed. But

1012
00:45:12,680 --> 00:45:14,239
Speaker 3: if it's not home field, forget about it.

1013
00:45:14,239 --> 00:45:14,439
Speaker 1: Though.

1014
00:45:14,760 --> 00:45:17,840
Speaker 2: Bake right, Buffalo is six points better than Kansas City

1015
00:45:18,239 --> 00:45:20,600
Speaker 2: take away three for Arrowhead and a point and a

1016
00:45:20,680 --> 00:45:25,560
Speaker 2: half for the refs. Really really rough weekend for the Chiefs.

1017
00:45:25,640 --> 00:45:27,520
Speaker 2: Don't get the calls crowd.

1018
00:45:27,719 --> 00:45:31,000
Speaker 3: Right, Look, that didn't affect the game. But I will

1019
00:45:31,080 --> 00:45:37,320
Speaker 3: say this, I am so tired of the Mahomes. What

1020
00:45:37,680 --> 00:45:39,680
Speaker 3: do you want to call it? The Vladi devots flop

1021
00:45:39,760 --> 00:45:40,719
Speaker 3: or whatever you want to do.

1022
00:45:40,960 --> 00:45:43,600
Speaker 2: That's never really old school. People usually go with James

1023
00:45:43,600 --> 00:45:45,360
Speaker 2: Harden now, but you want to go back to Vlade.

1024
00:45:45,400 --> 00:45:47,759
Speaker 3: I'm here for he's the one that Isn't he the

1025
00:45:47,800 --> 00:45:49,640
Speaker 3: reason why we had to have a rule about it?

1026
00:45:49,680 --> 00:45:52,160
Speaker 1: I believe, Well, let's find out. Let's see what Google

1027
00:45:52,200 --> 00:45:53,200
Speaker 1: Ai tells you.

1028
00:45:53,000 --> 00:45:55,839
Speaker 3: But the push on the sideline in the back where

1029
00:45:56,200 --> 00:45:59,279
Speaker 3: he went flying, Chris, I'll stop it. And you know what,

1030
00:45:59,360 --> 00:46:03,840
Speaker 3: the way he purposely slows down on the sideline hoping

1031
00:46:03,920 --> 00:46:06,120
Speaker 3: to get hit because he knows it's like third and

1032
00:46:06,239 --> 00:46:08,800
Speaker 3: seventeen and he's not going to pick up the first down.

1033
00:46:09,239 --> 00:46:11,200
Speaker 3: And I'm just sick and tired of it. I can't

1034
00:46:11,200 --> 00:46:13,279
Speaker 3: wait till somebody knocks him on his back.

1035
00:46:13,320 --> 00:46:16,680
Speaker 2: So I thought it was an I've said this a

1036
00:46:16,719 --> 00:46:20,840
Speaker 2: lot on this show. I've brought it up many times.

1037
00:46:22,239 --> 00:46:26,359
Speaker 2: To me, Mahomes is inevitable. The chiefs are inevitable. They're

1038
00:46:26,440 --> 00:46:30,680
Speaker 2: just that good you got accepted. But when he does

1039
00:46:30,760 --> 00:46:33,160
Speaker 2: things like that, I think that's one of the more

1040
00:46:33,239 --> 00:46:36,759
Speaker 2: unbecoming things that he does to the game because that's

1041
00:46:36,800 --> 00:46:40,719
Speaker 2: taking advantage of a role that's protecting him. Remember let's

1042
00:46:40,719 --> 00:46:43,799
Speaker 2: go back to the Kiney Pickett in it was the

1043
00:46:43,840 --> 00:46:47,200
Speaker 2: a SEC championship game and the fake slide, remember that

1044
00:46:47,320 --> 00:46:50,239
Speaker 2: in college football, the fake slide and everyone let up

1045
00:46:50,280 --> 00:46:51,320
Speaker 2: and he just kept running.

1046
00:46:51,440 --> 00:46:52,800
Speaker 1: Mahomes does that constant?

1047
00:46:52,960 --> 00:46:54,399
Speaker 3: Who did they can play it about? Is that who

1048
00:46:54,400 --> 00:46:56,440
Speaker 3: they can played about when he came into the other fel.

1049
00:46:57,000 --> 00:46:58,879
Speaker 1: Maybe not so. I think he did it one time

1050
00:46:58,920 --> 00:46:59,680
Speaker 1: and they changed the rule.

1051
00:47:00,480 --> 00:47:02,360
Speaker 3: There was somebody they were complaining about, but go ahead.

1052
00:47:02,600 --> 00:47:05,560
Speaker 2: But the bottom line here to me is that's the

1053
00:47:05,600 --> 00:47:10,640
Speaker 2: next step in this protection of quarterbacks is now guys

1054
00:47:10,719 --> 00:47:13,720
Speaker 2: like Mahomes and I'm sure others it's just Patrick plays

1055
00:47:13,760 --> 00:47:16,799
Speaker 2: on TV more than anyone. They're taking advantage of it

1056
00:47:16,840 --> 00:47:18,920
Speaker 2: and if a defense breathes on them, they get a foul.

1057
00:47:18,960 --> 00:47:22,279
Speaker 2: I mean that the personal foul on will Anderson was

1058
00:47:23,040 --> 00:47:25,840
Speaker 2: atrocious and you might say it didn't factor into the game.

1059
00:47:26,280 --> 00:47:28,279
Speaker 2: That gave the Chiefs a first down when they were

1060
00:47:28,280 --> 00:47:30,120
Speaker 2: gonna have to punt, and it led to their first score,

1061
00:47:30,560 --> 00:47:32,640
Speaker 2: which they weren't moving the ball all that well against

1062
00:47:32,680 --> 00:47:35,359
Speaker 2: Houston at all. Now I'm not saying calls won them

1063
00:47:35,360 --> 00:47:38,080
Speaker 2: the football game. But the bottom line, more than anything

1064
00:47:38,120 --> 00:47:40,799
Speaker 2: else is they take advantage of it. So that's what

1065
00:47:40,960 --> 00:47:44,920
Speaker 2: sucks even more, and they're getting them. Patrick Mahomes knows

1066
00:47:44,920 --> 00:47:47,000
Speaker 2: how to play the game, and he's doing it well.

1067
00:47:47,360 --> 00:47:50,279
Speaker 1: I think that moment on Saturday was the first time

1068
00:47:50,360 --> 00:47:54,239
Speaker 1: we're like, look at this. What kind of nbabs is this?

1069
00:47:54,360 --> 00:47:57,000
Speaker 1: That he's rolling over there with a flop on the side.

1070
00:47:57,080 --> 00:47:59,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's the one you're talking about, right.

1071
00:47:59,520 --> 00:48:01,120
Speaker 1: Well, yeah, wasn't that what you were talking about?

1072
00:48:01,160 --> 00:48:04,520
Speaker 3: I have got me. That got my blood boiled. I'm like,

1073
00:48:04,760 --> 00:48:07,520
Speaker 3: and he was still inbound too, Griz, So it shouldn't

1074
00:48:07,560 --> 00:48:11,200
Speaker 3: have been a penalty even at all because he when

1075
00:48:11,200 --> 00:48:13,080
Speaker 3: he put his hands on me, he was still inbound.

1076
00:48:13,760 --> 00:48:16,640
Speaker 2: Roger the Engineer, my arch nemesis, has still found a

1077
00:48:16,680 --> 00:48:19,160
Speaker 2: way to get into the program, he says. The Chiefs

1078
00:48:19,200 --> 00:48:21,960
Speaker 2: defense doesn't give the respect datasert how about the eight

1079
00:48:22,080 --> 00:48:25,080
Speaker 2: sacks against Houston. Mahomes of the offense will work the

1080
00:48:25,120 --> 00:48:28,520
Speaker 2: bugs out after the long layoff and be ready whether

1081
00:48:28,520 --> 00:48:30,680
Speaker 2: they get an extra day to get ready.

1082
00:48:30,400 --> 00:48:32,440
Speaker 3: For some long wayoff. Exactly.

1083
00:48:33,160 --> 00:48:35,920
Speaker 2: John Wrights Arnie when his plank going to recognize that

1084
00:48:36,480 --> 00:48:38,120
Speaker 2: what a legend you are in the industry.

1085
00:48:38,480 --> 00:48:40,640
Speaker 3: That's true. When are you going to recognize that?

1086
00:48:40,880 --> 00:48:44,399
Speaker 2: I I when your picks are batter I mean, you're

1087
00:48:44,400 --> 00:48:46,960
Speaker 2: getting hot here late. But this is like a three

1088
00:48:47,000 --> 00:48:48,759
Speaker 2: game losing streak at the end of the year for

1089
00:48:48,840 --> 00:48:51,280
Speaker 2: a team that's like twenty games under five hundred in baseball?

1090
00:48:51,280 --> 00:48:52,160
Speaker 1: Like, what do I do? Am? I?

1091
00:48:52,280 --> 00:48:55,440
Speaker 2: Hey, congratulations on winning a few games. The people of

1092
00:48:55,520 --> 00:48:57,920
Speaker 2: Vermont loved me, I mean do they?

1093
00:48:58,640 --> 00:49:00,319
Speaker 3: I don't know. I don't usually leave my house.

1094
00:49:00,920 --> 00:49:02,440
Speaker 1: He's gonna do to even know you.

1095
00:49:03,840 --> 00:49:07,640
Speaker 2: Josh Wright's not saying Mahomes is the goat yet, but

1096
00:49:07,719 --> 00:49:10,839
Speaker 2: he's got to have the greatest start to a career now, right,

1097
00:49:11,280 --> 00:49:14,800
Speaker 2: even without winning next week? Seven straight AFC title games,

1098
00:49:15,040 --> 00:49:18,440
Speaker 2: four super Bowls, three Super Bowl wins, three Super Bowl MVPs,

1099
00:49:18,719 --> 00:49:22,840
Speaker 2: a regular season MVP. I mean, come on, yeah, it's

1100
00:49:23,120 --> 00:49:25,120
Speaker 2: I think you might be giving him one more MVP

1101
00:49:25,280 --> 00:49:28,600
Speaker 2: than he's received in the Super Bowl. But Aarnie, my gosh, man,

1102
00:49:28,800 --> 00:49:32,799
Speaker 2: it's it's hands down from day one when he took

1103
00:49:32,840 --> 00:49:34,439
Speaker 2: go over his the start, because remember he didn't start

1104
00:49:34,440 --> 00:49:37,040
Speaker 2: his rookie year, right, one of the greatest, if not

1105
00:49:37,120 --> 00:49:40,560
Speaker 2: the greatest start to an NFL player's career. And maybe

1106
00:49:41,040 --> 00:49:42,560
Speaker 2: I don't want to get too carried away here, but

1107
00:49:42,640 --> 00:49:45,360
Speaker 2: maybe any athlete in sports history. Dude, he's gone to

1108
00:49:45,400 --> 00:49:49,279
Speaker 2: the championship game seven straight years, and they're probably gonna

1109
00:49:49,280 --> 00:49:52,799
Speaker 2: go to the Super Bowl again next week. If the

1110
00:49:52,840 --> 00:49:54,120
Speaker 2: odds played out right, they're.

1111
00:49:54,000 --> 00:49:55,920
Speaker 1: Point half favored right now. It's amazing.

1112
00:49:56,160 --> 00:49:59,160
Speaker 3: There's only one other person I can think of. I

1113
00:49:59,160 --> 00:50:03,319
Speaker 3: can't think of his name, of course, great, but he

1114
00:50:03,400 --> 00:50:06,240
Speaker 3: won an Olympic gold medal in hockey with the USA,

1115
00:50:07,440 --> 00:50:10,239
Speaker 3: and then and then went to the Islanders, and I

1116
00:50:10,280 --> 00:50:14,000
Speaker 3: believe won four straight Stanley Cups. The four next year's.

1117
00:50:15,040 --> 00:50:16,440
Speaker 1: Four straight Stanley Cuffs.

1118
00:50:16,480 --> 00:50:18,360
Speaker 3: I believe the Islanders had four in row? Did they not?

1119
00:50:18,840 --> 00:50:21,200
Speaker 1: I don't know. You're asking me a hockey question. Oh,

1120
00:50:21,320 --> 00:50:25,480
Speaker 1: can't forget about Ken Morrow? My Kinmorrow? Yeah, Ken Morrow,

1121
00:50:25,560 --> 00:50:28,480
Speaker 1: That's who it was. Ken Morrow won an Olympic gold

1122
00:50:28,560 --> 00:50:32,359
Speaker 1: medal and four consecutive Stanley cuft I think, so, I mean,

1123
00:50:32,400 --> 00:50:33,799
Speaker 1: this is what Google is telling me.

1124
00:50:34,160 --> 00:50:36,080
Speaker 3: So there you gotta look at me pulling that out

1125
00:50:36,120 --> 00:50:38,239
Speaker 3: of my head. How about that, big boy?

1126
00:50:38,560 --> 00:50:41,080
Speaker 2: Well, I mean, is that still more impressive than seven

1127
00:50:41,160 --> 00:50:44,680
Speaker 2: straight trips to an AFC Championship game and three Super

1128
00:50:44,680 --> 00:50:46,640
Speaker 2: Bowl wins and trying to become the first team ever

1129
00:50:46,760 --> 00:50:48,400
Speaker 2: went back to back to back club.

1130
00:50:48,719 --> 00:50:51,240
Speaker 3: But it's a close second there with the Morrow.

1131
00:50:51,320 --> 00:50:54,799
Speaker 2: I just and I appreciate you not knowing the name either,

1132
00:50:54,920 --> 00:50:57,279
Speaker 2: which literally you could have googled the same thing.

1133
00:50:57,280 --> 00:51:00,279
Speaker 3: I go with it, but I you know, that's a

1134
00:51:00,280 --> 00:51:02,360
Speaker 3: pretty good pull out of your backside, there, is it not?

1135
00:51:02,600 --> 00:51:04,560
Speaker 2: It would have been even more impressive if you would

1136
00:51:04,600 --> 00:51:07,200
Speaker 2: have gone just this is my idea here thought you're

1137
00:51:07,200 --> 00:51:07,720
Speaker 2: the legend.

1138
00:51:07,719 --> 00:51:09,319
Speaker 1: I mean, dare I give it there?

1139
00:51:09,360 --> 00:51:14,400
Speaker 2: You maybe you google Olympic gold medal winner, two Islanders,

1140
00:51:14,440 --> 00:51:16,600
Speaker 2: four straight Stanley Cups, and then you could say you

1141
00:51:16,640 --> 00:51:19,799
Speaker 2: ever heard of Ken Morrow instead of this guy? This

1142
00:51:19,880 --> 00:51:20,960
Speaker 2: guy somewhere did this.

1143
00:51:20,960 --> 00:51:23,120
Speaker 3: Still, you didn't give me enough time to do that.

1144
00:51:23,160 --> 00:51:24,959
Speaker 3: You just kind of threw it out there. I only

1145
00:51:25,000 --> 00:51:26,799
Speaker 3: had like three I alway could do it off the

1146
00:51:26,800 --> 00:51:27,720
Speaker 3: top of my head.

1147
00:51:28,480 --> 00:51:29,920
Speaker 1: Jason Bean Diamond Rights.

1148
00:51:30,200 --> 00:51:33,440
Speaker 2: The Chiefs went sixteen to one counting games in the

1149
00:51:33,480 --> 00:51:36,759
Speaker 2: playoffs they cared about. I don't have the script, but

1150
00:51:36,840 --> 00:51:39,480
Speaker 2: I would never bet against Mahomes.

1151
00:51:40,680 --> 00:51:42,200
Speaker 3: If that's so true, then why are they just a

1152
00:51:42,280 --> 00:51:43,359
Speaker 3: poorting that favorite next week?

1153
00:51:43,400 --> 00:51:45,200
Speaker 1: Who cares about? Why does that matter?

1154
00:51:45,560 --> 00:51:45,920
Speaker 3: It does?

1155
00:51:46,120 --> 00:51:46,279
Speaker 1: Well?

1156
00:51:46,360 --> 00:51:48,759
Speaker 3: That's that's the big indicator, is it?

1157
00:51:49,520 --> 00:51:49,640
Speaker 1: What?

1158
00:51:50,000 --> 00:51:52,520
Speaker 2: How is that an indicator for the Lions and the

1159
00:51:52,600 --> 00:51:53,439
Speaker 2: Commander's game?

1160
00:51:53,440 --> 00:51:54,480
Speaker 1: How that play out.

1161
00:51:55,200 --> 00:51:57,480
Speaker 3: Well for them? That's uh, mister nobody.

1162
00:51:57,880 --> 00:52:01,400
Speaker 2: The Steelers have been my favorite team since nineteen ninety seven.

1163
00:52:02,120 --> 00:52:03,000
Speaker 1: I became a.

1164
00:52:02,880 --> 00:52:06,560
Speaker 2: Fan when my dad and I flew to Pittsburgh suburb

1165
00:52:06,800 --> 00:52:09,120
Speaker 2: for an ECW Wrestling pay per view?

1166
00:52:09,200 --> 00:52:10,960
Speaker 1: Do you do you even know what ECW is?

1167
00:52:10,960 --> 00:52:12,760
Speaker 3: Aren't I have no idea what you're talking about.

1168
00:52:12,800 --> 00:52:16,040
Speaker 1: Tommy Dreamer, mister nobody. He right about sliding Jim.

1169
00:52:16,520 --> 00:52:21,759
Speaker 2: But after eight straight playoff losses, enough is enough. I'm

1170
00:52:21,800 --> 00:52:25,640
Speaker 2: rejoining my other faith from college, the Buffalo Bills.

1171
00:52:25,719 --> 00:52:26,720
Speaker 1: No Arnie effect.

1172
00:52:26,880 --> 00:52:29,560
Speaker 3: I hope that's my Bills. I was rooting for them

1173
00:52:29,600 --> 00:52:30,279
Speaker 3: all hard this.

1174
00:52:30,440 --> 00:52:33,520
Speaker 2: Oh no, mister Nobody, you get on the right bandwagon,

1175
00:52:33,600 --> 00:52:34,880
Speaker 2: and now Arnie just curses you.

1176
00:52:35,040 --> 00:52:36,760
Speaker 3: I thought he was gonna tell you wanted to trade

1177
00:52:36,760 --> 00:52:39,640
Speaker 3: Tomlin when all those rumors came out, and I was

1178
00:52:39,719 --> 00:52:43,080
Speaker 3: laughing about all those rumors trading coaches until Bernie Fradle

1179
00:52:43,239 --> 00:52:45,759
Speaker 3: told me it's happened. Like eight times where coaches have

1180
00:52:45,800 --> 00:52:46,360
Speaker 3: been traded.

1181
00:52:48,760 --> 00:52:50,600
Speaker 1: Bernie Frattle had to tell you we talked about it

1182
00:52:50,640 --> 00:52:51,800
Speaker 1: like two weeks ago on the show.

1183
00:52:52,000 --> 00:52:54,840
Speaker 3: What. No, we didn't say it happened like eight times, though.

1184
00:52:55,200 --> 00:53:00,880
Speaker 1: We absolutely did. Did it got traded? Belichick? Part Sales

1185
00:53:00,920 --> 00:53:03,640
Speaker 1: has been traded. I think part Sales has been traded twice.

1186
00:53:04,719 --> 00:53:06,960
Speaker 1: He never listens to the show, never listens to me.

1187
00:53:07,040 --> 00:53:09,080
Speaker 3: I gotta start listening.

1188
00:53:09,120 --> 00:53:12,319
Speaker 2: Paul Wrights Plank, You're not gonna ruin tonight for me.

1189
00:53:12,719 --> 00:53:15,760
Speaker 2: The Bills put up twenty seven points in awful weather.

1190
00:53:16,160 --> 00:53:20,080
Speaker 2: They scored forty eight against the Lions and thirty against

1191
00:53:20,160 --> 00:53:24,440
Speaker 2: the Chiefs. They have been dominant all year. Have they

1192
00:53:24,480 --> 00:53:27,360
Speaker 2: been the most consistent of the four teams that are left?

1193
00:53:27,680 --> 00:53:29,839
Speaker 3: Yes, I would say yes.

1194
00:53:30,600 --> 00:53:30,960
Speaker 1: You know that.

1195
00:53:31,280 --> 00:53:33,960
Speaker 3: Yes, I mean Kansas City really just lost one game

1196
00:53:33,960 --> 00:53:35,640
Speaker 3: forget about the last game of the year. That doesn't

1197
00:53:35,680 --> 00:53:36,280
Speaker 3: count as.

1198
00:53:36,160 --> 00:53:38,680
Speaker 1: It no, because they played Carson Wentz.

1199
00:53:38,520 --> 00:53:42,400
Speaker 3: Right, So Kansas City has been very consistent. I shouldn't

1200
00:53:42,440 --> 00:53:44,879
Speaker 3: say Buffalo has been the most consistent. I should take

1201
00:53:44,880 --> 00:53:45,319
Speaker 3: that back.

1202
00:53:45,520 --> 00:53:48,120
Speaker 2: You think so you would take Casey over Buffalo, Yeah,

1203
00:53:48,160 --> 00:53:52,280
Speaker 2: I would. But even with the record, you could argue

1204
00:53:52,719 --> 00:53:56,279
Speaker 2: Casey being in some of those one score games has

1205
00:53:56,320 --> 00:53:59,759
Speaker 2: shown an incredible amount of consistency and finding ways to win,

1206
00:54:00,480 --> 00:54:03,879
Speaker 2: but inconsistency in being entire games than they should be.

1207
00:54:04,680 --> 00:54:05,920
Speaker 2: That makes sense, No.

1208
00:54:06,360 --> 00:54:08,600
Speaker 3: You completely lost me. I'm like, what the hell was

1209
00:54:08,719 --> 00:54:09,200
Speaker 3: he saying?

1210
00:54:09,360 --> 00:54:12,040
Speaker 1: Consistency and finding ways to win it? Right?

1211
00:54:12,080 --> 00:54:15,600
Speaker 2: But they've been incredibly inconsistent because they're in games they

1212
00:54:16,040 --> 00:54:18,200
Speaker 2: with teams that shouldn't be in games with true.

1213
00:54:18,320 --> 00:54:20,160
Speaker 3: You mean, like played until the level of your competition.

1214
00:54:21,280 --> 00:54:23,840
Speaker 3: By the way, had they not lost to the Bills,

1215
00:54:24,520 --> 00:54:26,560
Speaker 3: they would have had to play their starters the last weekend.

1216
00:54:26,600 --> 00:54:27,279
Speaker 3: Would they not have.

1217
00:54:31,160 --> 00:54:33,320
Speaker 1: Had they not lost to the Bills, yep.

1218
00:54:33,160 --> 00:54:35,480
Speaker 3: But then they would have had a perfect record, And

1219
00:54:35,560 --> 00:54:37,880
Speaker 3: no way they give the perfect record up, would they?

1220
00:54:38,040 --> 00:54:41,080
Speaker 1: I don't know, there are no way, zero way.

1221
00:54:41,360 --> 00:54:45,919
Speaker 3: I don't get id bbs going yeah, that doesn't mean

1222
00:54:45,960 --> 00:54:48,040
Speaker 3: anything to me. We'll just go ahead and sit this

1223
00:54:48,120 --> 00:54:48,440
Speaker 3: game out.

1224
00:54:48,480 --> 00:54:51,040
Speaker 1: Absolutely never in the middle.

1225
00:54:51,040 --> 00:54:54,760
Speaker 3: I would lose all respect for it. Did something if.

1226
00:54:54,600 --> 00:54:56,560
Speaker 2: They did that and then he got hurt or if

1227
00:54:56,680 --> 00:54:58,960
Speaker 2: Kelsey got hurt. Ye in the first round of the.

1228
00:54:58,920 --> 00:55:02,440
Speaker 3: Play like a month off, my good please? If I

1229
00:55:02,480 --> 00:55:04,040
Speaker 3: had a chance to.

1230
00:55:03,560 --> 00:55:06,400
Speaker 2: Say Barkley had a chance to set the single season

1231
00:55:06,480 --> 00:55:09,279
Speaker 2: rushing record in the regular season, he sat a game out.

1232
00:55:09,360 --> 00:55:13,040
Speaker 3: Big difference between that at a team record like going undefeated.

1233
00:55:13,160 --> 00:55:15,000
Speaker 1: I'm not disagreeing with you.

1234
00:55:15,040 --> 00:55:16,360
Speaker 2: I just I don't think I can sit here and

1235
00:55:16,360 --> 00:55:21,839
Speaker 2: be like, oh, yeah, they all would have played, They're.

1236
00:55:20,200 --> 00:55:22,120
Speaker 1: All would have a different bird man. Uh.

1237
00:55:22,160 --> 00:55:26,320
Speaker 2: And then finally, LJ. Last year, Zay Flowers this year,

1238
00:55:26,640 --> 00:55:30,160
Speaker 2: Mark Andrews. Let's face reality, guys, the Ravens are not

1239
00:55:30,360 --> 00:55:34,560
Speaker 2: mentally tough. And that starts from the top with cry

1240
00:55:34,640 --> 00:55:37,399
Speaker 2: baby Harball and resonates throughout the team.

1241
00:55:39,000 --> 00:55:41,359
Speaker 1: Is that I think that's a little unfair LJ.

1242
00:55:42,200 --> 00:55:44,760
Speaker 3: But the blame though, who takes the blame?

1243
00:55:44,840 --> 00:55:47,120
Speaker 1: I mean, Zay Flowers is going into the end zone

1244
00:55:47,360 --> 00:55:49,120
Speaker 1: and that ball pops out. I mean we had to

1245
00:55:49,120 --> 00:55:52,000
Speaker 1: watch eighty six replays on the goal line to see

1246
00:55:52,239 --> 00:55:54,239
Speaker 1: whether or not the ball came out before he went

1247
00:55:54,239 --> 00:55:54,759
Speaker 1: in on that.

1248
00:55:55,000 --> 00:55:58,040
Speaker 3: By the way, did today's game and I know it's

1249
00:55:58,080 --> 00:56:02,320
Speaker 3: a regular season a war, but today's game decide really

1250
00:56:02,320 --> 00:56:04,680
Speaker 3: who the MVP is? Or omitted harder?

1251
00:56:06,200 --> 00:56:07,200
Speaker 1: Have they already voted?

1252
00:56:07,440 --> 00:56:08,839
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's a regular season thing?

1253
00:56:09,239 --> 00:56:09,799
Speaker 1: Oh is it?

1254
00:56:10,080 --> 00:56:10,640
Speaker 3: Yeah?

1255
00:56:10,760 --> 00:56:12,880
Speaker 1: But then it shouldn't matter, right, Well, I'm.

1256
00:56:12,719 --> 00:56:14,160
Speaker 3: Just wondering too.

1257
00:56:14,600 --> 00:56:16,680
Speaker 1: After today, I would have given to take one Barkley

1258
00:56:16,719 --> 00:56:20,480
Speaker 1: the MVP. After today Barkley got my vote.

1259
00:56:20,560 --> 00:56:22,680
Speaker 3: Maybe yeah, right, Well, I.

1260
00:56:22,640 --> 00:56:25,120
Speaker 1: Think it's gonna be Allen though, don't you? I do.

1261
00:56:25,320 --> 00:56:27,720
Speaker 3: I do think it's gonna be Alan though. I believe

1262
00:56:28,000 --> 00:56:34,200
Speaker 3: that Lamar had played out and and that's at least

1263
00:56:34,239 --> 00:56:35,239
Speaker 3: a least I think so.

1264
00:56:35,280 --> 00:56:36,439
Speaker 1: Well he did he did today?

1265
00:56:36,600 --> 00:56:39,120
Speaker 2: Just turn the ball that Baltimore turned the ball over

1266
00:56:39,160 --> 00:56:41,200
Speaker 2: too much and then Bills took advantage of it. All Right,

1267
00:56:41,200 --> 00:56:44,160
Speaker 2: We'll talk with Todd Furman next and see about college

1268
00:56:44,200 --> 00:56:47,319
Speaker 2: football's big game coming up on Monday night.

1269
00:56:47,400 --> 00:56:49,439
Speaker 1: Plus he's surprised by.

1270
00:56:49,360 --> 00:56:51,720
Speaker 2: The numbers that came out for the AFC and NFC

1271
00:56:51,800 --> 00:56:54,279
Speaker 2: championship games. A Tarni and plank on a Sunday into

1272
00:56:54,280 --> 00:56:56,400
Speaker 2: a Monday night here on Fox Sports Radio. I had

1273
00:56:56,400 --> 00:57:00,480
Speaker 2: a Tarnian plank on a Fox Sports Sunday the champampionship

1274
00:57:00,520 --> 00:57:03,239
Speaker 2: games in the AFC and NFC, or set here to

1275
00:57:03,280 --> 00:57:06,000
Speaker 2: talk about our buddy, Todd Furman Bet the Board podcast

1276
00:57:06,040 --> 00:57:09,640
Speaker 2: at Todd Furman on X Good Day, Bad Day, Todd,

1277
00:57:09,640 --> 00:57:11,799
Speaker 2: how did things play out in the divisional rounds over

1278
00:57:11,800 --> 00:57:13,880
Speaker 2: the weekend for the books, books that.

1279
00:57:13,920 --> 00:57:16,200
Speaker 6: Were able to eliminate a lot of the Future's liability

1280
00:57:16,240 --> 00:57:18,320
Speaker 6: they had going to the Detroit Lions, so that was

1281
00:57:18,360 --> 00:57:21,080
Speaker 6: a win for them. Getting the Commanders to not only

1282
00:57:21,120 --> 00:57:23,840
Speaker 6: cover as a seven and a half eight point underdog,

1283
00:57:23,880 --> 00:57:26,200
Speaker 6: but to win that game out right helped immenseally. The

1284
00:57:26,280 --> 00:57:28,320
Speaker 6: two results today a little bit of a mixed bag.

1285
00:57:28,360 --> 00:57:30,600
Speaker 6: You did see some professional money coming on Baltimore that

1286
00:57:30,640 --> 00:57:32,960
Speaker 6: took them from a slight underdog on the open to

1287
00:57:33,040 --> 00:57:35,320
Speaker 6: a slight favorite to close, but both games going over

1288
00:57:35,360 --> 00:57:37,760
Speaker 6: the total not good for the house, and depending on

1289
00:57:37,800 --> 00:57:40,760
Speaker 6: where they fell with the Rams Philadelphia six could have

1290
00:57:40,800 --> 00:57:43,160
Speaker 6: been a bad result for some books and a very

1291
00:57:43,200 --> 00:57:44,280
Speaker 6: good one for others.

1292
00:57:44,520 --> 00:57:46,920
Speaker 3: I would have paid to see what people were yelling

1293
00:57:46,960 --> 00:57:49,880
Speaker 3: about for the people that the Chiefs minus nine and

1294
00:57:49,960 --> 00:57:52,360
Speaker 3: a half before the safety on Saturday.

1295
00:57:53,120 --> 00:57:55,280
Speaker 6: Yeah, it definitely changes the dynamic, and it's why you

1296
00:57:55,320 --> 00:57:57,200
Speaker 6: always have to be price sensitive when you're looking to

1297
00:57:57,200 --> 00:57:59,760
Speaker 6: try and bet these games. You had opportunities to lay

1298
00:57:59,760 --> 00:58:01,760
Speaker 6: better nine and a half throughout the course of the week.

1299
00:58:02,440 --> 00:58:05,040
Speaker 6: Even earlier in the day there was still an opportunity

1300
00:58:05,040 --> 00:58:07,480
Speaker 6: to lay him eight, but There's no doubt that safety

1301
00:58:07,760 --> 00:58:10,960
Speaker 6: definitely changed some wins to losses and vice versa. There

1302
00:58:11,480 --> 00:58:13,640
Speaker 6: to get things kicked off for the divisional weekend in

1303
00:58:13,680 --> 00:58:15,800
Speaker 6: a surprising style, will put it that way.

1304
00:58:15,960 --> 00:58:18,560
Speaker 2: So anything really catch your eye in some of the

1305
00:58:18,600 --> 00:58:21,120
Speaker 2: early lines I've seen. The over under was a little

1306
00:58:21,120 --> 00:58:22,800
Speaker 2: bit of a question in the Bills Chiefs game. But

1307
00:58:23,120 --> 00:58:26,440
Speaker 2: what pretty universally Philly minus five and a half in

1308
00:58:26,520 --> 00:58:27,920
Speaker 2: case minus a point and a half.

1309
00:58:28,280 --> 00:58:30,520
Speaker 6: Yeah, no man's land for the Eagles and Commanders four

1310
00:58:30,560 --> 00:58:32,160
Speaker 6: and a half on the low end upwards of five

1311
00:58:32,200 --> 00:58:33,840
Speaker 6: and a half. And I think the storyline we're going

1312
00:58:33,880 --> 00:58:35,760
Speaker 6: to want to follow up until kickoff next week is

1313
00:58:35,760 --> 00:58:38,160
Speaker 6: the health of Jalen Hurts. I don't expect him to

1314
00:58:38,160 --> 00:58:40,000
Speaker 6: miss the game, but if he looks like the quarterback

1315
00:58:40,040 --> 00:58:43,080
Speaker 6: he was in those final few drives, clearly mobility was compromised,

1316
00:58:43,400 --> 00:58:45,560
Speaker 6: and I'm not sure if he doesn't have his legs

1317
00:58:45,560 --> 00:58:47,360
Speaker 6: as a way to be able to extend plays and

1318
00:58:47,400 --> 00:58:50,000
Speaker 6: force defenses to play them honestly, that it puts them

1319
00:58:50,040 --> 00:58:52,200
Speaker 6: in a tough spot. Although if the Eagles has said

1320
00:58:52,200 --> 00:58:54,600
Speaker 6: the right things Quinnion Mitchell did after but it's a

1321
00:58:54,600 --> 00:58:56,960
Speaker 6: little bit funky for me, when you rule a player

1322
00:58:56,960 --> 00:58:58,760
Speaker 6: out pretty early in the game of the shoulder injury

1323
00:58:58,800 --> 00:59:01,000
Speaker 6: and he knows right away after the game is over

1324
00:59:01,200 --> 00:59:03,240
Speaker 6: that he's going to be available for next week. And

1325
00:59:03,280 --> 00:59:05,640
Speaker 6: as far as Buffalo Kansas City, looking at one one

1326
00:59:05,680 --> 00:59:08,000
Speaker 6: and a half for Kansas City total in the game

1327
00:59:08,040 --> 00:59:10,600
Speaker 6: of forty eight and a half interesting wrinkle of course,

1328
00:59:10,760 --> 00:59:13,040
Speaker 6: in those games, you know, Buffalo gets the win against

1329
00:59:13,080 --> 00:59:15,919
Speaker 6: the Ravens despite the Ravens not punting a single time

1330
00:59:15,920 --> 00:59:16,320
Speaker 6: in the game.

1331
00:59:16,480 --> 00:59:19,200
Speaker 3: Wow, amazing, Which way is that? Why you going to move?

1332
00:59:19,200 --> 00:59:21,680
Speaker 3: I'm assuming people gonna be jumping on Kansas City and

1333
00:59:21,760 --> 00:59:23,360
Speaker 3: he'll be going to two two and a half, but

1334
00:59:23,520 --> 00:59:24,560
Speaker 3: just short of three.

1335
00:59:24,840 --> 00:59:26,760
Speaker 6: Yeah, I don't think we're gonna get to three. I

1336
00:59:26,800 --> 00:59:29,080
Speaker 6: think you'll have an appetite from betters looking to try

1337
00:59:29,120 --> 00:59:31,000
Speaker 6: and bet Buffalo if it did get to three. I

1338
00:59:31,040 --> 00:59:32,600
Speaker 6: think it's the perfect number in that one one and

1339
00:59:32,600 --> 00:59:34,360
Speaker 6: a half range. You're gonna have a lot of folks saying,

1340
00:59:34,360 --> 00:59:36,480
Speaker 6: if I can get the Chiefs at this shorter price

1341
00:59:36,720 --> 00:59:38,640
Speaker 6: in a game of this magnitude, it's hard to argue

1342
00:59:38,640 --> 00:59:40,760
Speaker 6: with pedigree and the level of success they've had in

1343
00:59:40,800 --> 00:59:43,160
Speaker 6: the past, and some folks may want to clamor for

1344
00:59:43,160 --> 00:59:45,720
Speaker 6: the Buffalo Bills finally being able to get over the

1345
00:59:45,800 --> 00:59:49,000
Speaker 6: hump and exercise the demons and the arch nemesis of

1346
00:59:49,040 --> 00:59:52,000
Speaker 6: Josh Allens that has been Patrick Mahomes on the other sideline.

1347
00:59:52,040 --> 00:59:55,040
Speaker 6: But these games, you know, familiar matchups. We typically see

1348
00:59:55,080 --> 00:59:58,240
Speaker 6: Washington Philadelphia play twice a year as Division fos and

1349
00:59:58,320 --> 01:00:01,080
Speaker 6: Buffalo Kansas City. Feels like every single season over the

1350
01:00:01,160 --> 01:00:03,920
Speaker 6: last five years, we've got a yearly installation and this

1351
01:00:03,960 --> 01:00:07,120
Speaker 6: becomes a second meeting as Kansas City tries to exact

1352
01:00:07,160 --> 01:00:08,640
Speaker 6: a measure of revenge in a game that means a

1353
01:00:08,680 --> 01:00:11,120
Speaker 6: little bit more than what we saw up in Western

1354
01:00:11,120 --> 01:00:12,360
Speaker 6: New York during the regular season.

1355
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Speaker 2: All Right, Tod, let's talk about Detroit here real quick,

1356
01:00:15,600 --> 01:00:20,040
Speaker 2: because a team with so much promise, so many injuries,

1357
01:00:20,080 --> 01:00:22,240
Speaker 2: how do you kind of view where they are now?

1358
01:00:22,360 --> 01:00:25,720
Speaker 2: You get upset, You're out Washington as a load to momentum.

1359
01:00:25,760 --> 01:00:28,040
Speaker 2: That division is going to get tough for probably going

1360
01:00:28,080 --> 01:00:30,200
Speaker 2: to lose both of their coordinators. It's going to be

1361
01:00:30,240 --> 01:00:32,080
Speaker 2: an interesting offseason in Detroit, isn't it.

1362
01:00:32,600 --> 01:00:32,800
Speaker 1: Yeah?

1363
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Speaker 6: I think, Look, it's a team. We talk about windows

1364
01:00:35,000 --> 01:00:37,160
Speaker 6: all the time in professional sports, and some close a

1365
01:00:37,200 --> 01:00:39,440
Speaker 6: lot faster than others. But for the Lions, you know,

1366
01:00:39,560 --> 01:00:41,960
Speaker 6: this was a glorious opportunity. They had to go out

1367
01:00:41,960 --> 01:00:45,400
Speaker 6: there and win that elusive Lombardi Trophy. Unfortunately for them,

1368
01:00:45,640 --> 01:00:48,560
Speaker 6: it's extremely difficult when basically half of your too deep

1369
01:00:48,560 --> 01:00:50,840
Speaker 6: on the defensive side of the ball can't be out

1370
01:00:50,880 --> 01:00:53,240
Speaker 6: there contribute to key junctures of when you need them

1371
01:00:53,240 --> 01:00:56,000
Speaker 6: for the most high leverage situations that are there. The

1372
01:00:56,080 --> 01:00:58,200
Speaker 6: offense turned the ball over more than they could afford.

1373
01:00:58,240 --> 01:01:00,000
Speaker 6: But it's rare in the NFL that you scored three

1374
01:01:00,000 --> 01:01:02,120
Speaker 6: thirty one points in a playoff game and you still

1375
01:01:02,160 --> 01:01:04,360
Speaker 6: find a way to lose by two touchdowns. But that

1376
01:01:04,480 --> 01:01:07,680
Speaker 6: seemed to be the common storyline and that you had

1377
01:01:07,720 --> 01:01:10,200
Speaker 6: to follow in all of these divisional round games that

1378
01:01:10,240 --> 01:01:12,400
Speaker 6: if you shot yourself in the foot turn the ball over,

1379
01:01:12,800 --> 01:01:16,080
Speaker 6: it was impossible to kind of overcome those elements, whereas

1380
01:01:16,080 --> 01:01:18,400
Speaker 6: the teams that went on to win just avoided those

1381
01:01:18,440 --> 01:01:21,240
Speaker 6: costing mistakes. Because I don't think anybody thought Kansas City

1382
01:01:21,840 --> 01:01:25,000
Speaker 6: was extremely good in their victory against the Houston Texans,

1383
01:01:25,200 --> 01:01:27,640
Speaker 6: or that the Bills were overly sharp in their performance

1384
01:01:27,640 --> 01:01:30,480
Speaker 6: against Baltimore, or even Philadelphia, who had to try and

1385
01:01:30,600 --> 01:01:33,720
Speaker 6: limp to the finish, both figuratively and literally, after they

1386
01:01:33,760 --> 01:01:36,000
Speaker 6: allowed the Rams to sneak back in the game after

1387
01:01:36,040 --> 01:01:37,720
Speaker 6: Saquon Barkley put them up two scores.

1388
01:01:38,040 --> 01:01:42,040
Speaker 3: Dodd some great odds, I think, some great value in

1389
01:01:42,160 --> 01:01:45,560
Speaker 3: the Super Bowl odds. Philadelphia the favorite under two to one,

1390
01:01:45,600 --> 01:01:47,600
Speaker 3: but you can get the Chiefs almost a two and

1391
01:01:47,640 --> 01:01:49,880
Speaker 3: a half to one, same thing with the Bills maybe

1392
01:01:50,040 --> 01:01:52,320
Speaker 3: over two and a half to one, and the Commanders

1393
01:01:52,320 --> 01:01:53,720
Speaker 3: are like seven to one.

1394
01:01:53,960 --> 01:01:56,400
Speaker 6: Yeah, all money line rollovers at this point. So if

1395
01:01:56,400 --> 01:01:58,280
Speaker 6: you believe that the Commanders do have more than a

1396
01:01:58,280 --> 01:02:00,960
Speaker 6: punch or shot to upset the then both of those

1397
01:02:01,000 --> 01:02:03,840
Speaker 6: AFC teams are going to offer tremendous amounts of upside

1398
01:02:03,880 --> 01:02:06,640
Speaker 6: because you'll be able to get them as substantial favorites

1399
01:02:06,920 --> 01:02:10,320
Speaker 6: in a standalone championship game. But if Philadelphia gets through,

1400
01:02:10,360 --> 01:02:12,000
Speaker 6: you'd be looking at a number real close to pick

1401
01:02:12,040 --> 01:02:15,200
Speaker 6: him against both Buffalo and Kansas City. So not exactly

1402
01:02:15,280 --> 01:02:18,360
Speaker 6: stealing this time of year, unless you feel that Washington

1403
01:02:18,440 --> 01:02:21,320
Speaker 6: pull off an upset and then maybe you're able to

1404
01:02:21,360 --> 01:02:23,920
Speaker 6: exact a level of value from a Buffalo or Kansas

1405
01:02:23,920 --> 01:02:26,000
Speaker 6: City at that price tag. In North twod to one

1406
01:02:26,000 --> 01:02:26,800
Speaker 6: that you alluded.

1407
01:02:26,520 --> 01:02:28,320
Speaker 1: To nis Addle's talk about tonight.

1408
01:02:29,000 --> 01:02:31,320
Speaker 2: What's the gut telling you, I say tonight on the

1409
01:02:31,360 --> 01:02:33,600
Speaker 2: East coast, not quite there in the Central and Pacific

1410
01:02:33,600 --> 01:02:34,640
Speaker 2: time zone yet.

1411
01:02:34,720 --> 01:02:38,520
Speaker 1: But I may be surprised to line it move more

1412
01:02:38,520 --> 01:02:39,000
Speaker 1: than it did.

1413
01:02:39,040 --> 01:02:41,480
Speaker 2: Only a point this week, still pretty big when we

1414
01:02:41,520 --> 01:02:43,720
Speaker 2: went eight, eight and a half right now for Ohio State,

1415
01:02:43,800 --> 01:02:45,600
Speaker 2: what's kind of your feel and how this has gone

1416
01:02:45,600 --> 01:02:46,240
Speaker 2: throughout the week?

1417
01:02:46,640 --> 01:02:49,800
Speaker 6: You know, these championship games haven't been competitive. They're going

1418
01:02:49,840 --> 01:02:51,840
Speaker 6: all the way back to when we expanded the footprint

1419
01:02:51,880 --> 01:02:54,200
Speaker 6: a little bit. You've seen an average margin of victory

1420
01:02:54,240 --> 01:02:56,600
Speaker 6: north of two touchdowns, but that doesn't say that the

1421
01:02:56,640 --> 01:02:59,040
Speaker 6: favorite wins the game by two touchdowns or the underdog.

1422
01:02:59,120 --> 01:03:01,040
Speaker 6: I do think this game will be a little bit closer,

1423
01:03:01,560 --> 01:03:03,680
Speaker 6: especially when you consider that the total of one of

1424
01:03:03,680 --> 01:03:06,440
Speaker 6: the lower numbers that we've seen, especially in modern college football.

1425
01:03:06,560 --> 01:03:08,240
Speaker 6: But you can understand why when you have two of

1426
01:03:08,280 --> 01:03:11,000
Speaker 6: the best defenses from a points per game allowed standpoint.

1427
01:03:11,040 --> 01:03:13,760
Speaker 6: But for me, Notre Dame, in my opinion, gets the

1428
01:03:13,800 --> 01:03:15,919
Speaker 6: slight edge at the coordinator spot. I think that's hard

1429
01:03:15,960 --> 01:03:17,680
Speaker 6: to ignore this time of year for a group that

1430
01:03:17,840 --> 01:03:20,360
Speaker 6: just hasn't beaten themselves. I mean, Notre Dame has done

1431
01:03:20,400 --> 01:03:22,640
Speaker 6: the little things. They've shown a ton of grit and tenacity,

1432
01:03:22,680 --> 01:03:24,480
Speaker 6: and while they don't match up player for player with

1433
01:03:24,520 --> 01:03:27,560
Speaker 6: the Buckeyes in terms of overall skill, they've done the

1434
01:03:27,600 --> 01:03:30,400
Speaker 6: little things asked of them and then some. Plus we

1435
01:03:30,440 --> 01:03:32,200
Speaker 6: do have a level of familiarity. I mean, this will

1436
01:03:32,240 --> 01:03:34,040
Speaker 6: be the third time in as many years since Marcus

1437
01:03:34,080 --> 01:03:36,400
Speaker 6: Freeman took over in South Bend that these teams have

1438
01:03:36,440 --> 01:03:38,560
Speaker 6: played one another. And while the rosters are a little

1439
01:03:38,560 --> 01:03:41,640
Speaker 6: bit different, Notre Dame has done a tremendous job. Being

1440
01:03:41,680 --> 01:03:44,320
Speaker 6: able to hang around early and force Ohio States creates

1441
01:03:44,320 --> 01:03:48,080
Speaker 6: some separations. So even in Marcus Freeman's first game at

1442
01:03:48,080 --> 01:03:50,720
Speaker 6: Notre Dame, we saw them take a lead into the

1443
01:03:50,760 --> 01:03:53,480
Speaker 6: half against Ohio State last year and the Buckeyes were

1444
01:03:53,480 --> 01:03:55,640
Speaker 6: a little bit banged up with Kyle mccorda quarterback. It

1445
01:03:55,640 --> 01:03:57,880
Speaker 6: was a three to nothing game. So I wouldn't see

1446
01:03:57,920 --> 01:04:00,520
Speaker 6: any scenario other than, you know, Notre Dame doing everything

1447
01:04:00,520 --> 01:04:02,680
Speaker 6: they could to throw a wrench into the best laid

1448
01:04:02,680 --> 01:04:04,760
Speaker 6: plans for the Scarlett and Gray, and I leaned so

1449
01:04:04,840 --> 01:04:07,720
Speaker 6: slightly towards Notre Dame haven't bet the game sider total though,

1450
01:04:07,720 --> 01:04:09,240
Speaker 6: but should be a fun one to watch, no doubt

1451
01:04:09,240 --> 01:04:09,560
Speaker 6: about it.

1452
01:04:09,680 --> 01:04:11,520
Speaker 3: I'll think I'm leading towards the over. I don't want

1453
01:04:11,520 --> 01:04:13,680
Speaker 3: to officially give up by picks because a lot of

1454
01:04:13,720 --> 01:04:16,640
Speaker 3: pressure on me. I'm keeping the economy alive here in Vermont.

1455
01:04:16,880 --> 01:04:19,120
Speaker 3: So many people are making money off my picks right now.

1456
01:04:19,160 --> 01:04:21,400
Speaker 6: Todd, Well, yeah, I think people are making money fading

1457
01:04:21,440 --> 01:04:23,919
Speaker 6: your picks, but a further proof that they are only

1458
01:04:23,920 --> 01:04:26,200
Speaker 6: a handful of things in Vermont that can be trusted

1459
01:04:26,200 --> 01:04:29,200
Speaker 6: from an economic stimulus standpoint. The revenue that Ben and

1460
01:04:29,240 --> 01:04:32,280
Speaker 6: Jerry's generates, what we see from Vermont Teddy Bear, and

1461
01:04:32,320 --> 01:04:34,120
Speaker 6: the amount of pints to get polished off at one

1462
01:04:34,160 --> 01:04:35,880
Speaker 6: of my favorite restaurants when I live there, the wind

1463
01:04:35,960 --> 01:04:37,640
Speaker 6: Jammer right there in Wilson.

1464
01:04:37,680 --> 01:04:40,680
Speaker 2: Artie's probably never been all right, Todd, enjoyed the Enjoy

1465
01:04:40,760 --> 01:04:42,640
Speaker 2: the game tonight, buddy, and thanks for all your time.

1466
01:04:42,960 --> 01:04:45,520
Speaker 1: It should be a fun countdown of the championship games.

1467
01:04:45,640 --> 01:04:47,840
Speaker 6: Always a pleasure, guys. Enjoy the game tomorrow night, and

1468
01:04:47,880 --> 01:04:49,160
Speaker 6: now this time next week we'll have a lot of

1469
01:04:49,200 --> 01:04:51,720
Speaker 6: fun talking about the Super Bowl matchup and all the

1470
01:04:51,880 --> 01:04:53,800
Speaker 6: x's and notes that can be exploited down in New Orleans.

1471
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Speaker 1: Are two weeks to prep, can't any buddy? That's Todd Firman.

1472
01:04:56,120 --> 01:04:58,120
Speaker 2: Go follow him on Twitter at Todd Furman and check

1473
01:04:58,200 --> 01:05:01,680
Speaker 2: him out on the bet to board podcast available however

1474
01:05:01,720 --> 01:05:04,840
Speaker 2: you consume podcasts. All right here you Steve Seger comes

1475
01:05:04,880 --> 01:05:06,840
Speaker 2: rolling into the Tirack dot com studios.

1476
01:05:06,880 --> 01:05:07,760
Speaker 1: What's going on, Steve?

1477
01:05:07,880 --> 01:05:11,680
Speaker 5: Divisional playoff round over? Our four winners have set the

1478
01:05:12,120 --> 01:05:16,400
Speaker 5: AFC NFC Championship game matchups for next weekend. Amazingly, it

1479
01:05:16,440 --> 01:05:18,680
Speaker 5: turns out that all four teams that won this weekend

1480
01:05:19,360 --> 01:05:20,280
Speaker 5: were out gained.

1481
01:05:20,360 --> 01:05:23,480
Speaker 3: Yes, I just set that the plague? How about that?

1482
01:05:23,600 --> 01:05:23,920
Speaker 1: Huh?

1483
01:05:23,960 --> 01:05:26,600
Speaker 5: And Ap says that it only happened once before, that

1484
01:05:26,720 --> 01:05:29,360
Speaker 5: was twenty fifteen season, and he mentioned that it's a

1485
01:05:29,520 --> 01:05:32,760
Speaker 5: Division Foes matchup for the NFC title on Fox TV

1486
01:05:32,920 --> 01:05:36,360
Speaker 5: next Sunday, three pm Eastern Washington at Philadelphia. They split

1487
01:05:36,400 --> 01:05:39,320
Speaker 5: their two regular season meetings and no, no snow in

1488
01:05:39,360 --> 01:05:42,600
Speaker 5: the forecast for Philly next weekend. But here, the NFC

1489
01:05:42,640 --> 01:05:45,560
Speaker 5: North had been the division and it's the NFC East

1490
01:05:45,560 --> 01:05:48,800
Speaker 5: that's standing at the end in that conference. The NFC

1491
01:05:48,840 --> 01:05:51,800
Speaker 5: North had those three elite teams this year Lions and

1492
01:05:51,920 --> 01:05:55,439
Speaker 5: Vikings and Packers. Oh my Pro Football Talk tonight put

1493
01:05:55,440 --> 01:05:57,560
Speaker 5: it this way that in the regular season those Big

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01:05:57,600 --> 01:06:00,479
Speaker 5: Three when they played outside the division, had a record

1495
01:06:00,520 --> 01:06:03,240
Speaker 5: of twenty nine and four, and yet get to the

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01:06:03,280 --> 01:06:07,040
Speaker 5: postseason this month they were all out immediately zho to

1497
01:06:07,040 --> 01:06:11,760
Speaker 5: three against non NFC North teams. Well, you also mentioned

1498
01:06:11,800 --> 01:06:13,960
Speaker 5: earlier in the show here as the Rams lost in

1499
01:06:14,000 --> 01:06:16,560
Speaker 5: the snow at Philadelphia twenty eight, twenty two. That kind

1500
01:06:16,600 --> 01:06:18,480
Speaker 5: of came close to pulling it out at the end

1501
01:06:19,080 --> 01:06:21,800
Speaker 5: because to remember, one of the long TD runs came

1502
01:06:21,800 --> 01:06:25,960
Speaker 5: from Saquon Barkley, a one play scoring drive with under

1503
01:06:26,000 --> 01:06:28,840
Speaker 5: five minutes to go, seventy eight yards and he's gone,

1504
01:06:28,880 --> 01:06:31,360
Speaker 5: and that put the Eagles up twenty eight to fifteen.

1505
01:06:31,520 --> 01:06:35,040
Speaker 5: So Associated Press did some research. What's the win loss

1506
01:06:35,080 --> 01:06:37,959
Speaker 5: record of a team since two thousand when you start

1507
01:06:38,000 --> 01:06:40,600
Speaker 5: a drive in the last fifteen minute, last five minutes

1508
01:06:40,640 --> 01:06:43,640
Speaker 5: a year down thirteen points or more, as the Rams were.

1509
01:06:44,560 --> 01:06:47,920
Speaker 5: The answer is nine wins and about twenty seven hundred losses.

1510
01:06:48,160 --> 01:06:49,800
Speaker 1: Wow, I did season in pow.

1511
01:06:50,040 --> 01:06:52,440
Speaker 3: I think Miami lost to Tennessee a couple of years ago.

1512
01:06:52,480 --> 01:06:55,200
Speaker 5: On that way, almost never gets pulled off, and yet

1513
01:06:55,240 --> 01:06:58,520
Speaker 5: the Rams down twenty eight to fifteen, had a ten

1514
01:06:58,600 --> 01:07:01,680
Speaker 5: play touchdown drive, got a three and out on defense,

1515
01:07:01,800 --> 01:07:04,920
Speaker 5: took over, had another ten play drive under two minutes,

1516
01:07:04,960 --> 01:07:07,560
Speaker 5: got into the red zone of Philadelphia, was still over

1517
01:07:07,600 --> 01:07:10,400
Speaker 5: a minute left, and then that sack up the middle

1518
01:07:10,400 --> 01:07:13,360
Speaker 5: by Jalen Carter, who had a great game. Stafford had

1519
01:07:13,400 --> 01:07:15,720
Speaker 5: no chance on that. Here was a third and two,

1520
01:07:15,760 --> 01:07:19,200
Speaker 5: then became fourth and eleven and he threw incomplete and

1521
01:07:19,240 --> 01:07:22,280
Speaker 5: that's it for the Rams season. They ended eleven and eight,

1522
01:07:22,720 --> 01:07:25,120
Speaker 5: five and four in the road games, Rams defense had

1523
01:07:25,160 --> 01:07:29,320
Speaker 5: seven secs, Eagles had five. Matthew Stafford two touchdown passes,

1524
01:07:29,520 --> 01:07:33,240
Speaker 5: three hundred twenty four yards passing and one fumble. Saquon

1525
01:07:33,320 --> 01:07:37,200
Speaker 5: Barkley did it to the Rams again, twenty six carries,

1526
01:07:37,760 --> 01:07:41,280
Speaker 5: two hundred five yards, two touchdowns, not only the seventy

1527
01:07:41,320 --> 01:07:44,840
Speaker 5: eight yard TD but an earlier sixty two yarder, and

1528
01:07:44,960 --> 01:07:47,720
Speaker 5: he blasted the Rams in LA in the last couple

1529
01:07:47,720 --> 01:07:51,040
Speaker 5: of months, including a couple of long TV runs. So

1530
01:07:51,320 --> 01:07:54,560
Speaker 5: Saquon Barkley becomes the first player in NFL history to

1531
01:07:54,880 --> 01:07:58,680
Speaker 5: against a single opponent, have four different rushing touchdowns that

1532
01:07:58,760 --> 01:08:02,600
Speaker 5: are at least from sixty yard yards out in his career.

1533
01:08:03,560 --> 01:08:05,840
Speaker 5: No one else had done that for a career. He

1534
01:08:05,960 --> 01:08:09,800
Speaker 5: did that in two games this season against the same opponent,

1535
01:08:10,440 --> 01:08:12,560
Speaker 5: thank you very much. And then tonight in the cold

1536
01:08:12,600 --> 01:08:15,919
Speaker 5: at Buffalo, the Bills eliminated Baltimore twenty seven to twenty five.

1537
01:08:16,040 --> 01:08:18,679
Speaker 5: Josh Allen two short touchdown runs in the second quarter.

1538
01:08:19,000 --> 01:08:22,400
Speaker 5: The Ravens missed two two point passes in the second half.

1539
01:08:22,720 --> 01:08:26,280
Speaker 5: Among the seven NBA games, Miami beat San Antonio easily.

1540
01:08:26,360 --> 01:08:28,880
Speaker 5: Today Heat outscored him by nineteen in the third quarter.

1541
01:08:29,000 --> 01:08:32,320
Speaker 5: Denver won at Orlando. Another triple double from Nikola Jokic

1542
01:08:32,560 --> 01:08:35,519
Speaker 5: for the Magic, Paulo Bank Carol four of seventeen, shooting

1543
01:08:35,600 --> 01:08:39,400
Speaker 5: ten points. Oklahoma City is thirty five and seven after

1544
01:08:39,479 --> 01:08:43,719
Speaker 5: ripping Brooklyn. Shake Iljess Alexander was questionable with a sprained wrist.

1545
01:08:43,760 --> 01:08:46,479
Speaker 5: He'd missed the Friday game. He played today had twenty

1546
01:08:46,520 --> 01:08:50,400
Speaker 5: seven points and ten assists. Milwaukee sent Philadelphia to a

1547
01:08:50,479 --> 01:08:54,639
Speaker 5: sixth straight loss. Sacramento sent Washington to a tenth straight loss.

1548
01:08:55,000 --> 01:08:57,639
Speaker 5: Victories for Portland and the Clippers, who beat the Lakers

1549
01:08:57,640 --> 01:09:00,320
Speaker 5: one sixteen, one oh two, And guys, the Commissioner the

1550
01:09:00,360 --> 01:09:04,080
Speaker 5: ACC has spoken today saying his league will have some

1551
01:09:04,160 --> 01:09:07,839
Speaker 5: conversations about whether they should make changes to their conference

1552
01:09:07,920 --> 01:09:12,719
Speaker 5: championship game format, because remember SMU was their regular season

1553
01:09:12,840 --> 01:09:15,360
Speaker 5: champ but then lost the ACC title game and had

1554
01:09:15,400 --> 01:09:17,000
Speaker 5: to sweat it out to see if they were even

1555
01:09:17,040 --> 01:09:19,799
Speaker 5: gonna get a spot in the twelve team playoff field.

1556
01:09:20,520 --> 01:09:23,519
Speaker 5: One of the considerations that they'll talk about with ACC

1557
01:09:23,720 --> 01:09:27,600
Speaker 5: coaches and athletic directors will two. Actually, one is what

1558
01:09:27,840 --> 01:09:31,080
Speaker 5: if we just give our regular season champ a buy

1559
01:09:31,840 --> 01:09:34,519
Speaker 5: and we have second place play third place in our

1560
01:09:34,560 --> 01:09:37,920
Speaker 5: so called championship game nine interesting. The other is what

1561
01:09:38,000 --> 01:09:40,120
Speaker 5: if we just leave an opening at the end of

1562
01:09:40,160 --> 01:09:43,960
Speaker 5: our regular season schedule and then automatically have one play

1563
01:09:44,000 --> 01:09:47,000
Speaker 5: four two against three, and then those two winners go

1564
01:09:47,080 --> 01:09:50,720
Speaker 5: to the ACC championship game. So things to discuss in

1565
01:09:50,760 --> 01:09:51,400
Speaker 5: that conference.

1566
01:09:51,439 --> 01:09:53,559
Speaker 1: Back to you. Yeah, they're trying to see if they

1567
01:09:53,640 --> 01:09:56,920
Speaker 1: get that second bid. Yeah, well out here to sweat it.

1568
01:09:57,000 --> 01:09:57,160
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1569
01:09:57,320 --> 01:09:59,240
Speaker 1: Here's the thing though, Steve, and I think this is

1570
01:09:59,280 --> 01:10:02,200
Speaker 1: fascinating Arnie. Sorry Arnie two.

1571
01:10:02,439 --> 01:10:05,920
Speaker 2: But if we do end up expanding this to sixteen,

1572
01:10:05,960 --> 01:10:08,439
Speaker 2: which I think is inevitable, and we get rid of

1573
01:10:08,479 --> 01:10:09,160
Speaker 2: first round.

1574
01:10:09,000 --> 01:10:11,439
Speaker 5: By not necessarily soon though right right.

1575
01:10:11,400 --> 01:10:14,160
Speaker 2: Right, over the next few years, you're probably gonna get

1576
01:10:14,200 --> 01:10:16,679
Speaker 2: two automatic bids in from the ACC and the Big twelve.

1577
01:10:16,680 --> 01:10:18,960
Speaker 1: Anyway, I think it's gonna end up being.

1578
01:10:18,920 --> 01:10:21,920
Speaker 3: Four four for wouldn't be automatic, they would just get

1579
01:10:21,960 --> 01:10:23,000
Speaker 3: two bids though.

1580
01:10:22,800 --> 01:10:25,479
Speaker 2: It'd be automatic. You get four from the A, four

1581
01:10:25,520 --> 01:10:28,439
Speaker 2: from the Big Big ten, four from the SEC, then

1582
01:10:28,479 --> 01:10:30,759
Speaker 2: two from the Big twelve, and two from the ACC.

1583
01:10:30,920 --> 01:10:33,120
Speaker 2: I think that those would be set bids that they

1584
01:10:33,160 --> 01:10:36,400
Speaker 2: would get. And then you wonder, Okay, at that point,

1585
01:10:36,479 --> 01:10:40,400
Speaker 2: do you just scratch your conference championship game altogether or

1586
01:10:41,200 --> 01:10:43,479
Speaker 2: do you maybe have two buys one head two don't

1587
01:10:43,520 --> 01:10:45,559
Speaker 2: have to worry about playing in the championship game, So

1588
01:10:45,600 --> 01:10:47,960
Speaker 2: maybe you could get a third team in with what

1589
01:10:48,080 --> 01:10:50,800
Speaker 2: might be a couple of at large and then what

1590
01:10:51,400 --> 01:10:52,840
Speaker 2: a group of five champion two.

1591
01:10:53,000 --> 01:10:56,280
Speaker 5: I would remember when the PAC twelve, PAC ten and

1592
01:10:56,320 --> 01:10:59,360
Speaker 5: people were starting to begin with these championship games and

1593
01:10:59,360 --> 01:11:02,280
Speaker 5: create them. The PAC twelve, remember, didn't have one for

1594
01:11:02,320 --> 01:11:04,640
Speaker 5: the longest time, and the reason was the commission at

1595
01:11:04,680 --> 01:11:07,240
Speaker 5: the time said, we don't want to expose our great

1596
01:11:07,280 --> 01:11:09,640
Speaker 5: team to a loss at the end and then and

1597
01:11:09,680 --> 01:11:12,960
Speaker 5: then have them out, so you know, smu is saying,

1598
01:11:13,400 --> 01:11:16,760
Speaker 5: should we really be least championship game and play at foot?

1599
01:11:16,800 --> 01:11:18,720
Speaker 1: What if we lose and then we're not in the

1600
01:11:18,720 --> 01:11:21,519
Speaker 1: top twelve. Yeah, and it's gonna be a fascinating time.

1601
01:11:21,560 --> 01:11:24,080
Speaker 1: All right? Who you got tonight, Arnie? Which I know

1602
01:11:24,120 --> 01:11:26,240
Speaker 1: you got your picks coming up later in the program,

1603
01:11:26,280 --> 01:11:29,120
Speaker 1: but have you wavered it all in your belief about

1604
01:11:29,120 --> 01:11:31,519
Speaker 1: what could happen tonight in the championship game?

1605
01:11:31,760 --> 01:11:32,679
Speaker 3: No, I'm pretty sad.

1606
01:11:34,320 --> 01:11:34,519
Speaker 1: You know.

1607
01:11:34,560 --> 01:11:36,800
Speaker 3: I'm gonna pick a blow out by Ohio State. I

1608
01:11:37,240 --> 01:11:39,960
Speaker 3: think it's gonna be like a seventeen point victory or

1609
01:11:40,200 --> 01:11:42,559
Speaker 3: maybe three touchdown victory. I don't think Notre Dame's gonna

1610
01:11:42,560 --> 01:11:44,320
Speaker 3: be able to keep up with him, and especially if

1611
01:11:44,360 --> 01:11:47,640
Speaker 3: ohiose thee gets out early and Notre Dame has to

1612
01:11:47,640 --> 01:11:50,639
Speaker 3: play ketchup. I kind of like the overallso I think

1613
01:11:50,680 --> 01:11:52,680
Speaker 3: forty five and a half is generous. So I think

1614
01:11:52,720 --> 01:11:54,000
Speaker 3: that that's gonna look good too.

1615
01:11:54,400 --> 01:11:57,599
Speaker 2: I think it's wild that Notre Dame won a game

1616
01:11:57,880 --> 01:12:01,760
Speaker 2: where everything went against them Penn State game they got

1617
01:12:01,800 --> 01:12:06,439
Speaker 2: beating the rushing totals and total yardage and just Riley

1618
01:12:06,520 --> 01:12:09,400
Speaker 2: Leonard and Notre Dame couldn't run the football, and they

1619
01:12:09,439 --> 01:12:12,240
Speaker 2: still beat Penn State. And then they probably played one

1620
01:12:12,280 --> 01:12:14,120
Speaker 2: of their best games of the year and beating Georgia.

1621
01:12:14,560 --> 01:12:16,879
Speaker 1: Yep, and the quarterback didn't even throw for one hundred yards.

1622
01:12:17,160 --> 01:12:20,160
Speaker 1: And now you're starting to get this little team of

1623
01:12:20,240 --> 01:12:23,000
Speaker 1: destiny buzz that's building around Notre Dame. Are you buying

1624
01:12:23,000 --> 01:12:24,560
Speaker 1: any of that? No?

1625
01:12:24,560 --> 01:12:25,320
Speaker 3: No, it's not.

1626
01:12:26,160 --> 01:12:26,559
Speaker 1: Why not?

1627
01:12:26,720 --> 01:12:27,080
Speaker 3: Please?

1628
01:12:27,479 --> 01:12:27,840
Speaker 1: Why not?

1629
01:12:28,320 --> 01:12:30,880
Speaker 3: It's not even gonna win tomorrow the Notre Dame. That's

1630
01:12:30,880 --> 01:12:35,840
Speaker 3: one thing too. You know, it's amazing tonight by the way,

1631
01:12:35,960 --> 01:12:38,519
Speaker 3: tonight whatever. Yeah, you know you always like cutting it

1632
01:12:38,520 --> 01:12:39,880
Speaker 3: close on the time thing out.

1633
01:12:39,960 --> 01:12:42,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's midnight, it's twelve forty, it's Monday on the

1634
01:12:42,280 --> 01:12:43,200
Speaker 1: Eastern time zone.

1635
01:12:43,439 --> 01:12:45,840
Speaker 3: Is there coach gonna be around? How much longer? That's

1636
01:12:45,880 --> 01:12:47,360
Speaker 3: what I want to know. Is he gonna end up

1637
01:12:47,479 --> 01:12:49,559
Speaker 3: taking another job before it's all said and done?

1638
01:12:49,800 --> 01:12:51,920
Speaker 1: What would you do if you're a Marcus Freeman, I'm.

1639
01:12:51,800 --> 01:12:52,719
Speaker 3: Gone, I'm done.

1640
01:12:52,960 --> 01:12:53,960
Speaker 1: You'd leave Notre Dame.

1641
01:12:54,200 --> 01:12:56,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, I would leave Notre Dame. I would go ahead

1642
01:12:56,000 --> 01:12:58,639
Speaker 3: and take the if I can get what the bear's

1643
01:12:58,760 --> 01:13:01,040
Speaker 3: job or something like that, would take it.

1644
01:13:01,040 --> 01:13:03,760
Speaker 2: It's Notre Dame man and you just led them in

1645
01:13:03,800 --> 01:13:06,519
Speaker 2: your third Sea fourth season to a national third season

1646
01:13:06,560 --> 01:13:09,280
Speaker 2: excuse me, to the National Championship game, and you're in

1647
01:13:09,320 --> 01:13:11,479
Speaker 2: a great spot to make the playoffs every single year

1648
01:13:11,520 --> 01:13:13,040
Speaker 2: even if it does Expand.

1649
01:13:13,040 --> 01:13:14,560
Speaker 3: You don't think the NFL is gonna pay him a

1650
01:13:14,600 --> 01:13:15,360
Speaker 3: lot of money? Is that good?

1651
01:13:15,560 --> 01:13:19,639
Speaker 2: I think Notre Dame's gonna pay him a lot of money.

1652
01:13:19,680 --> 01:13:22,000
Speaker 2: But you're telling me you would take the Bears over

1653
01:13:22,080 --> 01:13:22,599
Speaker 2: Notre Dame.

1654
01:13:22,840 --> 01:13:25,120
Speaker 3: I yeah, I would take the Bear situation. I don't

1655
01:13:25,120 --> 01:13:27,639
Speaker 3: think I would want to go be long term at

1656
01:13:27,640 --> 01:13:29,479
Speaker 3: Notre Dame. But you could ask coach Kelly if he

1657
01:13:29,520 --> 01:13:31,080
Speaker 3: wants to be long term in Notre Dame.

1658
01:13:31,120 --> 01:13:33,320
Speaker 1: Well, Coach Kelly has taking a lot of l's.

1659
01:13:33,400 --> 01:13:36,320
Speaker 2: He was the same guy that couldn't win a championship

1660
01:13:36,360 --> 01:13:38,840
Speaker 2: with Jane Daniels and then leaves Notre Dame while they're

1661
01:13:38,840 --> 01:13:40,240
Speaker 2: in the title game right now. So I don't know

1662
01:13:40,240 --> 01:13:42,760
Speaker 2: if that's an opinion maker who I want to hang

1663
01:13:42,800 --> 01:13:43,479
Speaker 2: my hat on, Arni.

1664
01:13:43,520 --> 01:13:44,760
Speaker 1: But that's just me. What do I know?

1665
01:13:45,000 --> 01:13:47,200
Speaker 2: All Right to Seger's coming up next with all the news,

1666
01:13:47,240 --> 01:13:49,360
Speaker 2: notes and stats we missed from the day right here

1667
01:13:49,479 --> 01:13:50,519
Speaker 2: on Fox Sports Radio.

1668
01:13:51,080 --> 01:13:53,240
Speaker 1: All right, there, we go, Steve de Sager.

1669
01:13:52,960 --> 01:13:57,120
Speaker 2: Comes rolling into the track dot Com studios because we've

1670
01:13:57,120 --> 01:13:59,120
Speaker 2: got to get caught up on all the tidbitch notes,

1671
01:13:59,200 --> 01:14:00,639
Speaker 2: news and nugget it's from today.

1672
01:14:00,640 --> 01:14:01,559
Speaker 1: What's going on, Steve?

1673
01:14:01,720 --> 01:14:04,400
Speaker 5: One thing I noticed with the NFC Championship game in

1674
01:14:04,479 --> 01:14:09,040
Speaker 5: Philly next Sunday, this will be five straight Sundays with

1675
01:14:09,120 --> 01:14:13,360
Speaker 5: a home game for the Philadelphia Eagles. Geezow Sundays in

1676
01:14:13,400 --> 01:14:16,400
Speaker 5: a row. They finished the regular season hosting and beating

1677
01:14:16,520 --> 01:14:19,120
Speaker 5: Dallas and the Giants. Then last Sunday was home beating

1678
01:14:19,160 --> 01:14:22,160
Speaker 5: Green Bay. Today a Sunday home beating the Rams. Next

1679
01:14:22,200 --> 01:14:25,840
Speaker 5: Sunday home to Washington in the NFC title game on

1680
01:14:25,920 --> 01:14:28,840
Speaker 5: Fox TV next Sunday, three pm Eastern times.

1681
01:14:28,880 --> 01:14:31,040
Speaker 3: You're more hateable than Kansas City, I believe.

1682
01:14:32,479 --> 01:14:36,360
Speaker 5: Yeah, it depends because some people just hate Philly because

1683
01:14:36,439 --> 01:14:40,320
Speaker 5: the fans, which goes to any sport. Yes, people tend

1684
01:14:40,320 --> 01:14:42,639
Speaker 5: to hate teams that they always see in the finals.

1685
01:14:42,720 --> 01:14:45,000
Speaker 5: Or you know, people not liking Lebron because he was

1686
01:14:45,040 --> 01:14:47,679
Speaker 5: always in the you know that kind of thing gets Brady.

1687
01:14:47,840 --> 01:14:48,280
Speaker 1: Certainly.

1688
01:14:48,560 --> 01:14:50,919
Speaker 5: We'll get to that in a moment you mentioned earlier

1689
01:14:50,960 --> 01:14:54,280
Speaker 5: in the show about the Chiefs tend to play close games,

1690
01:14:54,280 --> 01:14:56,360
Speaker 5: whether they should be close or not, but they tend

1691
01:14:56,439 --> 01:14:59,519
Speaker 5: to win all of them. In fact, yesterday's victory this

1692
01:14:59,600 --> 01:15:03,360
Speaker 5: season meant win number twelve by single digits. That's an

1693
01:15:03,479 --> 01:15:06,799
Speaker 5: NFL record most such close wins in a single season

1694
01:15:06,840 --> 01:15:10,240
Speaker 5: by any team, regular season plus playoffs. So here last

1695
01:15:10,320 --> 01:15:13,320
Speaker 5: night you had the one seed in the NFC, Detroit

1696
01:15:13,360 --> 01:15:16,479
Speaker 5: which had had a dominant offense over thirty points a game,

1697
01:15:16,840 --> 01:15:19,160
Speaker 5: and they're out, But the one seed in the AFC,

1698
01:15:19,360 --> 01:15:22,880
Speaker 5: the Chiefs are still in, going to another conference championship.

1699
01:15:23,520 --> 01:15:26,360
Speaker 5: And did the Chiefs average over thirty points a game? No,

1700
01:15:26,600 --> 01:15:29,880
Speaker 5: In fact, they did not score over thirty points in

1701
01:15:30,040 --> 01:15:33,080
Speaker 5: any single game this season, and yet they had the

1702
01:15:33,120 --> 01:15:36,439
Speaker 5: best record at sixteen and two. Lebron James, by the way,

1703
01:15:36,560 --> 01:15:40,200
Speaker 5: was in a conference final eight straight years, four with

1704
01:15:40,320 --> 01:15:44,040
Speaker 5: Miami and then four with Cleveland. Tom Brady eight straight

1705
01:15:44,120 --> 01:15:47,479
Speaker 5: years in the AFC championship. This will be seven straight

1706
01:15:47,560 --> 01:15:51,000
Speaker 5: years for Patrick Macomes in the AFC title game. Ken

1707
01:15:51,040 --> 01:15:54,120
Speaker 5: Stabler on John Madden's Raiders in the mid seventies went

1708
01:15:54,200 --> 01:15:57,240
Speaker 5: five straight years to the AFC Championship. The Raiders were

1709
01:15:57,240 --> 01:16:00,559
Speaker 5: one and four in those games, and Andy Reid's Eagles

1710
01:16:00,600 --> 01:16:03,120
Speaker 5: four straight years in the NFC title game, and he

1711
01:16:03,200 --> 01:16:06,320
Speaker 5: went one and three in those about twenty years ago.

1712
01:16:06,840 --> 01:16:09,920
Speaker 5: By the way, if Mahomes wins next Sunday, his record

1713
01:16:09,960 --> 01:16:12,759
Speaker 5: will be five and two. In the AFC title game,

1714
01:16:13,200 --> 01:16:15,719
Speaker 5: Tom Brady was five and three in his.

1715
01:16:15,640 --> 01:16:18,760
Speaker 1: Eighth straight game. Passed him. It's over.

1716
01:16:19,760 --> 01:16:24,599
Speaker 5: Lamar Jackson though, is out. My goodness, he did have

1717
01:16:24,680 --> 01:16:29,160
Speaker 5: that fumble touchdown. Baltimore was two and five in the

1718
01:16:29,160 --> 01:16:33,720
Speaker 5: playoffs during his years going into this year, and in

1719
01:16:33,760 --> 01:16:36,559
Speaker 5: the five losses they always scored seventeen points or less.

1720
01:16:36,600 --> 01:16:38,720
Speaker 5: Granted one of those he wasn't available, so it was

1721
01:16:38,760 --> 01:16:41,920
Speaker 5: a Tyler Huntley game. But it's a losing record. And

1722
01:16:41,960 --> 01:16:44,840
Speaker 5: this is now eight starts in the playoffs. In four

1723
01:16:44,880 --> 01:16:48,240
Speaker 5: of the eight he's had at least two turnovers each time.

1724
01:16:48,360 --> 01:16:49,160
Speaker 1: Inclind he was.

1725
01:16:49,080 --> 01:16:51,439
Speaker 3: Complaining about that, just hold on to the damn ball.

1726
01:16:51,520 --> 01:16:53,960
Speaker 3: But exactly what was he talking about Andrews or he

1727
01:16:54,040 --> 01:16:54,920
Speaker 3: talking about himself.

1728
01:16:54,960 --> 01:16:58,000
Speaker 5: He's talking about himself. Complete frustrating. This is not the

1729
01:16:58,000 --> 01:17:02,439
Speaker 5: first time, so two touchdown pass but two turnovers as well.

1730
01:17:02,880 --> 01:17:06,880
Speaker 5: He was blitzed by Buffalo in this game. In fact,

1731
01:17:06,960 --> 01:17:11,080
Speaker 5: the Bills defense Blitz Lamar Jackson on almost fifty percent

1732
01:17:11,120 --> 01:17:13,040
Speaker 5: of the times he dropped back to pass, which is

1733
01:17:13,080 --> 01:17:16,919
Speaker 5: their highest rates of the last few years his numbers.

1734
01:17:16,960 --> 01:17:19,960
Speaker 5: He threw his interception against the Blitz when he had

1735
01:17:20,000 --> 01:17:22,679
Speaker 5: no Blitz against him. Lamar Jackson was ten of eleven

1736
01:17:22,760 --> 01:17:25,519
Speaker 5: passing and a couple of touchdowns for the other quarterback

1737
01:17:25,640 --> 01:17:28,320
Speaker 5: Josh Allen advances because he was getting the ball out

1738
01:17:28,400 --> 01:17:31,960
Speaker 5: quickly in this game tonight, he averaged his quickest time

1739
01:17:32,000 --> 01:17:34,519
Speaker 5: to throw of this whole season. It was under two

1740
01:17:34,520 --> 01:17:36,880
Speaker 5: and a half seconds on average, getting the ball out,

1741
01:17:36,920 --> 01:17:40,040
Speaker 5: one of the quickest times of his career. So Buffalo

1742
01:17:40,120 --> 01:17:44,120
Speaker 5: eliminates Baltimore. Wide receiver Zay Flowers was out again for

1743
01:17:44,200 --> 01:17:47,919
Speaker 5: the Ravens with his knee injury mispracticed all week. Quarterback

1744
01:17:48,000 --> 01:17:51,679
Speaker 5: Lamar Jackson, remember, was voted All Pro ahead of Josh Allen.

1745
01:17:51,720 --> 01:17:55,360
Speaker 5: As you mentioned, it was thirty votes to eighteen. Here

1746
01:17:55,360 --> 01:17:57,960
Speaker 5: in late September, Baltimore had beaten up the Bills thirty

1747
01:17:58,000 --> 01:18:00,559
Speaker 5: five to ten, but the Bills had him at home

1748
01:18:00,640 --> 01:18:03,559
Speaker 5: and won again, and the Bills finished ten and zher

1749
01:18:03,880 --> 01:18:07,680
Speaker 5: at home and go to Kansas City for the AFC Championship.

1750
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Speaker 5: Next Sunday. Lamar Jackson had another phenomenal regular season, In fact,

1751
01:18:12,160 --> 01:18:14,559
Speaker 5: he was the first guy with at least forty TD

1752
01:18:14,640 --> 01:18:17,759
Speaker 5: passes but fewer than five interceptions in the same season

1753
01:18:18,280 --> 01:18:21,880
Speaker 5: in league history. But two turnovers in this playoff game

1754
01:18:21,920 --> 01:18:24,920
Speaker 5: and they are out. The Eagles eliminated the Rams twenty

1755
01:18:24,960 --> 01:18:27,720
Speaker 5: eight to twenty two. The Rams fumbled on back to

1756
01:18:27,840 --> 01:18:31,799
Speaker 5: back possessions in the fourth quarter. Philadelphia turned them both

1757
01:18:31,880 --> 01:18:36,040
Speaker 5: into field goals and won by six. We mentioned the Ravens,

1758
01:18:36,040 --> 01:18:38,639
Speaker 5: and it should be mentioned missed two two point tries

1759
01:18:38,680 --> 01:18:41,920
Speaker 5: in the second half and lost by two. There was

1760
01:18:41,960 --> 01:18:45,439
Speaker 5: that key Buffalo field goal early fourth quarter. Tyler Bass

1761
01:18:45,479 --> 01:18:48,280
Speaker 5: in a cold game under twenty degrees there tonight kicked

1762
01:18:48,320 --> 01:18:51,200
Speaker 5: a fifty one yard field goal and they won by two.

1763
01:18:51,320 --> 01:18:55,480
Speaker 5: So that's notable to bring up. As for Kansas City, yesterday,

1764
01:18:55,880 --> 01:18:59,000
Speaker 5: weather was a problem. Remember the Texans trying to kick

1765
01:18:59,040 --> 01:19:01,280
Speaker 5: into the win, that missed field goal attempt, the missed

1766
01:19:01,280 --> 01:19:04,360
Speaker 5: extra point try, then another field goal attempt block. But

1767
01:19:04,439 --> 01:19:07,080
Speaker 5: apparently it's not going to be that windy in cac

1768
01:19:07,280 --> 01:19:10,040
Speaker 5: next weekend, same as after the snow in Philly today,

1769
01:19:10,080 --> 01:19:13,040
Speaker 5: It's not due to snow in Philly. Next weekend. We

1770
01:19:13,080 --> 01:19:16,799
Speaker 5: do have Monday nights college football National Championship game in Atlanta,

1771
01:19:17,240 --> 01:19:20,439
Speaker 5: Ohio States and Notre Dame. Ohio State was ten and

1772
01:19:20,520 --> 01:19:23,439
Speaker 5: one this season until the home loss to Michigan. Since

1773
01:19:23,479 --> 01:19:26,360
Speaker 5: then they beat up Tennessee and number one Oregon easily

1774
01:19:26,439 --> 01:19:29,040
Speaker 5: and then eliminated Texas. By the way, the buck Guys

1775
01:19:29,040 --> 01:19:32,839
Speaker 5: will open next season hosting Texas and then today at Texas.

1776
01:19:32,920 --> 01:19:33,519
Speaker 1: The next year.

1777
01:19:33,640 --> 01:19:36,960
Speaker 5: The Irish due to open next season at Miami. Notre

1778
01:19:37,040 --> 01:19:39,800
Speaker 5: Dame's home schedule next season will include Texas A and

1779
01:19:39,920 --> 01:19:41,880
Speaker 5: m Boise State, USC.

1780
01:19:41,760 --> 01:19:45,040
Speaker 1: And Navy Carson Beck versus Notre Dame. How about that

1781
01:19:45,160 --> 01:19:46,800
Speaker 1: hat and think about that? Yeah, don't forget.

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Speaker 2: When we're done our podcast, we'll be going up. Have

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Speaker 2: Power Hour Stinking Genius. Are you're ready?

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Speaker 3: Let's go?

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01:20:14,200 --> 01:20:16,479
Speaker 1: You're well rested, by the way, do you feel little

1793
01:20:17,880 --> 01:20:18,800
Speaker 1: what's the word I'm looking for.

1794
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Speaker 3: I don't want to say misplaced? But college football on

1795
01:20:22,200 --> 01:20:25,760
Speaker 3: January twentieth. Don't you feel a little lost there? That

1796
01:20:25,880 --> 01:20:29,360
Speaker 3: that's really dragging it out in the month of January?

1797
01:20:29,479 --> 01:20:33,240
Speaker 1: You bet? Yeah. I think it's also I don't know

1798
01:20:33,240 --> 01:20:35,479
Speaker 1: what to make of why the TV ratings haven't been better.

1799
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Speaker 3: I was gonna say, I don't think it's going to

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Speaker 3: be good ratings for the finals because people are.

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Speaker 1: More I think it will be, don't you.

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01:20:43,120 --> 01:20:44,800
Speaker 3: No, I don't. I think it was pitched.

1803
01:20:44,560 --> 01:20:46,920
Speaker 1: At too most iconic brands you could think.

1804
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Speaker 3: Of, right, It has nothing to do with that. I'm

1805
01:20:48,960 --> 01:20:50,880
Speaker 3: just thinking more of because of the date and we're

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01:20:50,920 --> 01:20:54,800
Speaker 3: way past you know, we're deep in the January.

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01:20:54,840 --> 01:20:57,160
Speaker 1: People don't Okay, can you explain that to me?

1808
01:20:57,360 --> 01:21:00,719
Speaker 2: So, because you're not used to seeing a college football

1809
01:21:00,760 --> 01:21:02,760
Speaker 2: game this late, you're not going to watch it?

1810
01:21:02,800 --> 01:21:04,360
Speaker 3: Well, why do you think the other ones have been

1811
01:21:04,600 --> 01:21:05,559
Speaker 3: pretty down?

1812
01:21:06,080 --> 01:21:06,519
Speaker 1: I don't know.

1813
01:21:07,080 --> 01:21:09,439
Speaker 2: It makes no sense to me at all, especially whenever

1814
01:21:09,439 --> 01:21:12,880
Speaker 2: you had two good games in the semi finals. I

1815
01:21:12,920 --> 01:21:15,599
Speaker 2: think part of it is here, here's one thing that's

1816
01:21:15,680 --> 01:21:18,400
Speaker 2: going to be a forever complaint on my end, and

1817
01:21:18,439 --> 01:21:22,040
Speaker 2: this goes the same for college basketball. Why, Arnie, do

1818
01:21:22,120 --> 01:21:26,360
Speaker 2: we condition ourselves to always have the biggest games on Saturday,

1819
01:21:26,439 --> 01:21:27,719
Speaker 2: even for college basketball?

1820
01:21:27,760 --> 01:21:28,000
Speaker 1: Right?

1821
01:21:28,080 --> 01:21:30,839
Speaker 2: College basketball will have fun midweek games or out a Wednesday,

1822
01:21:30,960 --> 01:21:33,439
Speaker 2: Thursday and every now elevent But where are your most

1823
01:21:33,479 --> 01:21:35,040
Speaker 2: important games in college football?

1824
01:21:35,040 --> 01:21:37,240
Speaker 1: College basketball Saturday?

1825
01:21:37,280 --> 01:21:39,960
Speaker 2: Why do we not play our semi finals and national

1826
01:21:40,040 --> 01:21:41,200
Speaker 2: championships on a Saturday?

1827
01:21:41,439 --> 01:21:43,760
Speaker 3: Because when CFL had it all cares.

1828
01:21:43,560 --> 01:21:45,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean I feel like you've got it, You've

1829
01:21:45,840 --> 01:21:48,280
Speaker 2: conditioned it, and you got to do it.

1830
01:21:48,320 --> 01:21:49,160
Speaker 1: Well you need to do it.

1831
01:21:49,080 --> 01:21:51,920
Speaker 3: At New Well noon Eastern, which is three and a

1832
01:21:51,960 --> 01:21:54,280
Speaker 3: half or three hours before the NFL does theirs.

1833
01:21:54,400 --> 01:21:57,439
Speaker 2: I mean, that's that's always been my big complaint, especially

1834
01:21:57,479 --> 01:22:01,040
Speaker 2: with college football. There is not a single college football

1835
01:22:01,080 --> 01:22:05,559
Speaker 2: game throughout the year outside of the opening weekend in

1836
01:22:05,640 --> 01:22:07,519
Speaker 2: one game on a Monday night, that's it.

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01:22:07,880 --> 01:22:09,719
Speaker 3: But you have the whole audience on Monday.

1838
01:22:10,280 --> 01:22:11,760
Speaker 1: Well, you just told me you think the ratings are

1839
01:22:11,760 --> 01:22:12,240
Speaker 1: gonna suck.

1840
01:22:12,439 --> 01:22:14,639
Speaker 3: I have only because I don't think people are used

1841
01:22:14,680 --> 01:22:19,000
Speaker 3: to having college football go on this long. Has nothing

1842
01:22:19,040 --> 01:22:21,760
Speaker 3: to do with the you know so much about the

1843
01:22:21,840 --> 01:22:24,240
Speaker 3: day of the week. It's just out as January twentieth.

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Speaker 1: But I gotta tell you, man, I don't who are

1845
01:22:27,040 --> 01:22:30,080
Speaker 1: those people like that where you're like, whoa, look at

1846
01:22:30,080 --> 01:22:32,960
Speaker 1: that college football was still long. I'm not even kidding.

1847
01:22:33,439 --> 01:22:35,000
Speaker 1: Do you know people like that?

1848
01:22:35,880 --> 01:22:36,120
Speaker 6: Sure?

1849
01:22:36,160 --> 01:22:37,439
Speaker 3: I too, I don't.

1850
01:22:38,520 --> 01:22:41,040
Speaker 2: I mean, anyone's like, oh, my god's still going on. No,

1851
01:22:41,280 --> 01:22:44,240
Speaker 2: Everyone's like, oh, the championship game is tonight. So that's

1852
01:22:44,240 --> 01:22:46,799
Speaker 2: a world that I guess I need to familiarize myself

1853
01:22:46,840 --> 01:22:50,639
Speaker 2: with because I am not familiar with their game, arenie.

1854
01:22:50,960 --> 01:22:54,000
Speaker 2: And it is frustrating because Ohio State and Texas was

1855
01:22:54,040 --> 01:22:56,800
Speaker 2: a great football game. Penn State Notre Dame was a

1856
01:22:56,800 --> 01:22:59,439
Speaker 2: great football game to see that neither had what neither

1857
01:22:59,479 --> 01:23:01,760
Speaker 2: had twenty minus billion. Don't get me wrong, they were

1858
01:23:01,800 --> 01:23:04,040
Speaker 2: still the most watched things on TV that night, and

1859
01:23:04,080 --> 01:23:07,120
Speaker 2: I think some of the highest rated football college football

1860
01:23:07,160 --> 01:23:09,880
Speaker 2: games of the season. And they're not sniffing NFL numbers.

1861
01:23:09,880 --> 01:23:12,600
Speaker 2: But that's fine, this idea that, oh, well, it's a

1862
01:23:12,600 --> 01:23:15,639
Speaker 2: time of the year where people don't traditionally watch football. Okay,

1863
01:23:15,680 --> 01:23:18,360
Speaker 2: by three weeks, you know, it's not like we're playing

1864
01:23:18,439 --> 01:23:19,280
Speaker 2: in March and.

1865
01:23:19,200 --> 01:23:22,560
Speaker 3: The Sega's usually the numbers, guy, But is this championship

1866
01:23:22,560 --> 01:23:25,360
Speaker 3: game we gonna get higher numbers than a regular NFL

1867
01:23:25,439 --> 01:23:26,439
Speaker 3: Monday night game. I don't.

1868
01:23:26,479 --> 01:23:29,120
Speaker 1: I don't think I would hope so when you hope so,

1869
01:23:29,240 --> 01:23:31,120
Speaker 1: at least I the game.

1870
01:23:30,960 --> 01:23:33,240
Speaker 3: I would hope it does. But I don't think it's

1871
01:23:33,280 --> 01:23:34,880
Speaker 3: going to Chris. I don't think.

1872
01:23:36,280 --> 01:23:38,280
Speaker 1: I think it's going to blow Monday night football games

1873
01:23:38,280 --> 01:23:39,080
Speaker 1: out of the water.

1874
01:23:41,200 --> 01:23:44,240
Speaker 3: The regular season one, jee, I don't think so, though.

1875
01:23:44,360 --> 01:23:46,920
Speaker 1: You don't think so. What's a normal Monday night football

1876
01:23:47,000 --> 01:23:47,719
Speaker 1: rating than Arnie?

1877
01:23:48,280 --> 01:23:50,800
Speaker 3: What is it like in the tens? Is that what

1878
01:23:50,840 --> 01:23:51,799
Speaker 3: it is? Ten something?

1879
01:23:51,960 --> 01:23:54,759
Speaker 1: Well? I mean as far as viewers.

1880
01:23:54,479 --> 01:23:58,400
Speaker 3: Oh, I don't know. The overall viewers. I don't know.

1881
01:23:58,960 --> 01:24:02,479
Speaker 2: Normal Monday night foot ball ratings are fifteen million viewers a.

1882
01:24:02,439 --> 01:24:05,800
Speaker 3: Game fifteen million viewers, so it should do more than that.

1883
01:24:07,200 --> 01:24:10,479
Speaker 2: Yes, I mean this is This is according to Sports

1884
01:24:10,560 --> 01:24:15,640
Speaker 2: Video Group. The numbers up from twenty twenty two and

1885
01:24:15,720 --> 01:24:18,720
Speaker 2: twenty twenty three. But I just I would think that

1886
01:24:19,680 --> 01:24:22,920
Speaker 2: I would think that the NFL, or excuse me, the

1887
01:24:22,920 --> 01:24:26,040
Speaker 2: college football Championship game should beat it.

1888
01:24:26,439 --> 01:24:29,840
Speaker 1: And I guess the numbers if you took the average.

1889
01:24:29,400 --> 01:24:32,320
Speaker 2: From fifteen to twenty three, twenty fifteen to twenty twenty three,

1890
01:24:33,200 --> 01:24:36,200
Speaker 2: you're averaging seventeen point four million on Monday night football,

1891
01:24:36,200 --> 01:24:38,760
Speaker 2: which is mass. We're not sitting here trying to debate that.

1892
01:24:39,160 --> 01:24:42,360
Speaker 2: I'm just saying I hope the College Football National Championship

1893
01:24:42,400 --> 01:24:47,000
Speaker 2: game between two iconic brands. I mean outside of Ohio Satan,

1894
01:24:47,040 --> 01:24:48,599
Speaker 2: Notre Dame, who else would you want in there?

1895
01:24:49,120 --> 01:24:49,799
Speaker 1: TV ratings?

1896
01:24:49,800 --> 01:24:53,200
Speaker 3: And also the optimal kickoff time? What is it? It's

1897
01:24:53,200 --> 01:24:56,640
Speaker 3: seven thirty, which means more like seven forty five or

1898
01:24:57,080 --> 01:24:57,559
Speaker 3: like that too.

1899
01:24:57,840 --> 01:25:00,519
Speaker 2: Hey, were we ever going to kick off that game

1900
01:25:00,560 --> 01:25:03,160
Speaker 2: today between the Bills and the Bravens.

1901
01:25:03,720 --> 01:25:05,680
Speaker 1: Dude, what was going on with the pregame of that?

1902
01:25:06,680 --> 01:25:08,240
Speaker 1: Did you notice that? No?

1903
01:25:08,320 --> 01:25:09,760
Speaker 3: I didn't know. I didn't notice that.

1904
01:25:10,000 --> 01:25:13,599
Speaker 2: I don't think I've ever seen anything like what either

1905
01:25:13,720 --> 01:25:17,040
Speaker 2: CBS or the NFL decided to do there. I felt

1906
01:25:17,080 --> 01:25:19,840
Speaker 2: like it was at least a thirty minute delay from

1907
01:25:19,840 --> 01:25:20,400
Speaker 2: when they were going to.

1908
01:25:20,479 --> 01:25:20,880
Speaker 1: Kick it off.

1909
01:25:20,880 --> 01:25:22,960
Speaker 2: Oh jeez, we now have we got to go to

1910
01:25:22,960 --> 01:25:27,759
Speaker 2: eight different desks to get eight different predictions. And I mean, anyway,

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Speaker 2: want to say after the divisional series and championships, excuse me,

1917
01:25:48,280 --> 01:25:50,479
Speaker 2: the divisional round this is what we know?

1918
01:25:50,640 --> 01:25:52,360
Speaker 1: Or do you just want to go straight to the tweets?

1919
01:25:52,560 --> 01:25:54,760
Speaker 3: No, well, just a couple of them, because I'm right

1920
01:25:54,800 --> 01:25:56,960
Speaker 3: off the bat and the Saeger stole my thunder. But

1921
01:25:57,040 --> 01:25:59,720
Speaker 3: what I know is you could have the more You

1922
01:25:59,760 --> 01:26:02,920
Speaker 3: can have more yardage than your opponent and still not

1923
01:26:03,000 --> 01:26:06,160
Speaker 3: win the game. It happened four times this weekend, and

1924
01:26:06,240 --> 01:26:09,120
Speaker 3: I am shocked that something like that can go on.

1925
01:26:09,240 --> 01:26:11,280
Speaker 3: I never would have thought that you would out of

1926
01:26:11,360 --> 01:26:14,439
Speaker 3: gaining an opponent in four games and all four teams

1927
01:26:14,479 --> 01:26:16,240
Speaker 3: would lose. But that's exactly what happened.

1928
01:26:16,280 --> 01:26:20,439
Speaker 2: Turnovers, baby, yeah, turnovers the killer and the officials, right,

1929
01:26:20,520 --> 01:26:22,000
Speaker 2: they helped the Chiefs out quite a bit.

1930
01:26:22,120 --> 01:26:23,639
Speaker 1: So you got those two things.

1931
01:26:24,280 --> 01:26:27,479
Speaker 2: I know this that no one wants to talk about them,

1932
01:26:27,640 --> 01:26:30,000
Speaker 2: and everyone wants to act like they're easy to overcome.

1933
01:26:30,520 --> 01:26:33,559
Speaker 2: But there does reach a point where injuries are going

1934
01:26:33,640 --> 01:26:37,320
Speaker 2: to absolutely destroy you, and that's what happened to the Lions.

1935
01:26:37,720 --> 01:26:39,600
Speaker 2: I am not coming to you, Artie. I do not

1936
01:26:39,680 --> 01:26:41,519
Speaker 2: come to you today. Is anyone hating on the Lions.

1937
01:26:41,840 --> 01:26:42,040
Speaker 1: Never.

1938
01:26:42,280 --> 01:26:44,400
Speaker 2: I give them all the credit in the world, the

1939
01:26:44,479 --> 01:26:47,880
Speaker 2: fact that they lost that much on defense and we're

1940
01:26:47,920 --> 01:26:50,479
Speaker 2: in the position that they were in. And then even

1941
01:26:50,479 --> 01:26:54,120
Speaker 2: in the game against Washington, you know me Robertson meh

1942
01:26:54,160 --> 01:26:55,880
Speaker 2: whenever he was with the Raiders, but has had an

1943
01:26:55,880 --> 01:26:59,640
Speaker 2: incredible breakout with the Lions. He gets hurt on what

1944
01:27:00,200 --> 01:27:03,599
Speaker 2: like early in the game, so they kept losing.

1945
01:27:03,640 --> 01:27:03,960
Speaker 1: Guys.

1946
01:27:04,080 --> 01:27:07,479
Speaker 2: I'm bullish on the future of the Lions, but I

1947
01:27:07,520 --> 01:27:09,599
Speaker 2: am very curious to see what they do with Jared Goff.

1948
01:27:09,600 --> 01:27:11,520
Speaker 2: They're committed to him. He's going to be their quarterback.

1949
01:27:11,960 --> 01:27:15,839
Speaker 2: It's clear that his mistakes cost him that game against Washington.

1950
01:27:18,120 --> 01:27:21,720
Speaker 2: If Ben Johnson moves on, could Ben Johnson try to

1951
01:27:21,720 --> 01:27:24,080
Speaker 2: take Kendon Hooker they're back up with him. I don't know,

1952
01:27:24,600 --> 01:27:28,160
Speaker 2: but I just I'm intrigued by the future of Jared

1953
01:27:28,200 --> 01:27:30,360
Speaker 2: Goff because it appears like it's going to be in

1954
01:27:30,400 --> 01:27:31,599
Speaker 2: Detroit for a long time.

1955
01:27:32,000 --> 01:27:34,280
Speaker 1: But I don't know if that's necessarily the best thing,

1956
01:27:34,400 --> 01:27:36,000
Speaker 1: especially if Ben Johnson isn't there.

1957
01:27:36,200 --> 01:27:40,639
Speaker 3: My prediction is the Washington will get the most bets

1958
01:27:40,720 --> 01:27:43,680
Speaker 3: placed on the win the Super Bowl next year, so

1959
01:27:43,720 --> 01:27:45,240
Speaker 3: you could go ahead and take that to the bank,

1960
01:27:45,479 --> 01:27:47,840
Speaker 3: and Daniels will get the most votes or the most

1961
01:27:47,880 --> 01:27:50,800
Speaker 3: money put on him to win the MVP, So that

1962
01:27:51,000 --> 01:27:52,479
Speaker 3: will be where all the money will be going on

1963
01:27:52,560 --> 01:27:53,000
Speaker 3: next year.

1964
01:27:53,320 --> 01:27:57,280
Speaker 2: So you're already making Jane Daniels the MVP favorite next year.

1965
01:27:57,400 --> 01:27:59,160
Speaker 3: I didn't say the favorite. I just say that people

1966
01:27:59,240 --> 01:28:01,000
Speaker 3: are gonna go the that's where all the money will

1967
01:28:01,040 --> 01:28:03,479
Speaker 3: go to, especially if you're gonna get any decent odds

1968
01:28:03,520 --> 01:28:04,960
Speaker 3: with somebody like Jayden Daniels.

1969
01:28:05,080 --> 01:28:07,040
Speaker 2: I know you can play this down all you want,

1970
01:28:07,400 --> 01:28:09,680
Speaker 2: and I understand why you would because you're kind of

1971
01:28:09,720 --> 01:28:13,120
Speaker 2: a fake Giants fan. But after the divisional round of

1972
01:28:13,160 --> 01:28:16,120
Speaker 2: the playoffs, I know this, I'm seething. If I'm a

1973
01:28:16,120 --> 01:28:19,799
Speaker 2: Giants fan, seathing. I know it was probably the smart

1974
01:28:19,800 --> 01:28:22,760
Speaker 2: move to move on from Saquon. I can't argue it right,

1975
01:28:23,600 --> 01:28:26,760
Speaker 2: but to see what he's doing with one of your

1976
01:28:26,880 --> 01:28:32,599
Speaker 2: rivals in your own division, I mean, come on, psych

1977
01:28:32,640 --> 01:28:34,439
Speaker 2: watching your ex y or your ex girl.

1978
01:28:34,560 --> 01:28:38,120
Speaker 1: N You like the relationship compared Yes, yes, your ax

1979
01:28:38,320 --> 01:28:42,360
Speaker 1: just upgraded. She's moved on, and she is thriving. And

1980
01:28:42,400 --> 01:28:46,759
Speaker 1: that dude that she's with is rich and he's he's.

1981
01:28:46,560 --> 01:28:49,320
Speaker 2: Loaded and he's hot, and there's nothing you can do

1982
01:28:49,360 --> 01:28:52,519
Speaker 2: about it because you're sitting around eating your bond bonds

1983
01:28:52,720 --> 01:28:56,439
Speaker 2: watching this team just thrive right now. And I'm telling you,

1984
01:28:56,479 --> 01:28:58,599
Speaker 2: I think Philly's gonna win next weekend. You're gonna watch

1985
01:28:58,640 --> 01:29:03,000
Speaker 2: Saquon play in a super Bowl. So I understand that

1986
01:29:03,000 --> 01:29:04,760
Speaker 2: there is still all he would never have done that for.

1987
01:29:04,920 --> 01:29:06,280
Speaker 2: You know, he had all those opera what was your

1988
01:29:06,280 --> 01:29:07,839
Speaker 2: excuse your gun up with earlier?

1989
01:29:07,920 --> 01:29:09,080
Speaker 1: He's had those chances.

1990
01:29:09,479 --> 01:29:11,680
Speaker 2: You're telling me that every Giants fan is, oh, yeah,

1991
01:29:11,720 --> 01:29:14,479
Speaker 2: that's fine, good, good for him. Hell no, man, come on,

1992
01:29:14,720 --> 01:29:17,320
Speaker 2: I would be irate and you should be too. I

1993
01:29:17,439 --> 01:29:21,080
Speaker 2: was irate with Josh Jacobs just making the playoffs and

1994
01:29:21,080 --> 01:29:23,240
Speaker 2: putting himself in a position to win a game when

1995
01:29:23,240 --> 01:29:25,800
Speaker 2: he was in a Packers uniform. So I can't even

1996
01:29:25,840 --> 01:29:27,800
Speaker 2: fathom what would have been like if he was doing

1997
01:29:27,840 --> 01:29:30,960
Speaker 2: it for a team in my division in the AFC West,

1998
01:29:30,960 --> 01:29:32,160
Speaker 2: but not a Giants fan.

1999
01:29:32,240 --> 01:29:34,080
Speaker 1: I guess it's all okay, and you're cool with it.

2000
01:29:34,080 --> 01:29:36,800
Speaker 3: All right? When I ordered out to the divisional games,

2001
01:29:36,840 --> 01:29:39,760
Speaker 3: and I knew this even before these games went off

2002
01:29:39,760 --> 01:29:43,160
Speaker 3: this weekend, but now it's pretty much confirmed. I want

2003
01:29:43,200 --> 01:29:45,960
Speaker 3: to say this as nicely as I can, Chris, but

2004
01:29:46,160 --> 01:29:48,800
Speaker 3: go ahead. I'll just say it that in my arny way,

2005
01:29:49,280 --> 01:29:52,679
Speaker 3: you Raven fans, you're rooting for a loser. Your team

2006
01:29:52,760 --> 01:29:55,720
Speaker 3: is a loser. Okay, you can't win in the playoffs.

2007
01:29:56,040 --> 01:29:59,040
Speaker 3: How did you have to be the most disappointing fan

2008
01:29:59,120 --> 01:30:02,040
Speaker 3: base of all the fans right now, even more of

2009
01:30:02,080 --> 01:30:05,519
Speaker 3: the Detroit Lions. You every year think that it's going

2010
01:30:05,600 --> 01:30:08,400
Speaker 3: to be your year. You talk about how Lamar Jackson

2011
01:30:08,439 --> 01:30:11,479
Speaker 3: should win the MVP every year, and then this is

2012
01:30:11,520 --> 01:30:13,600
Speaker 3: gonna be your year to win the super Bowl, and

2013
01:30:13,640 --> 01:30:16,439
Speaker 3: then you just fall like that in the playoffs. You

2014
01:30:16,680 --> 01:30:18,439
Speaker 3: just root for a bunch of losers.

2015
01:30:18,439 --> 01:30:18,639
Speaker 1: Man.

2016
01:30:19,280 --> 01:30:23,360
Speaker 3: I can't put it any you know, any softer than that, Chris.

2017
01:30:25,600 --> 01:30:28,240
Speaker 1: They made the playoffs six in the last seven years.

2018
01:30:28,880 --> 01:30:30,559
Speaker 3: How many super Bowls that turned into?

2019
01:30:30,840 --> 01:30:34,280
Speaker 1: Well, they won the Super Bowl in twenty twelve, So

2020
01:30:34,560 --> 01:30:35,800
Speaker 1: I mean, you're.

2021
01:30:35,479 --> 01:30:39,120
Speaker 3: Not talking ten years old. I think then, No, that was.

2022
01:30:39,200 --> 01:30:40,000
Speaker 1: Twelve years ago.

2023
01:30:41,600 --> 01:30:44,600
Speaker 2: So the Ravens, who under John Harbaugh have won a

2024
01:30:44,680 --> 01:30:48,760
Speaker 2: super Bowl. Consistent playoff contenders are losers.

2025
01:30:49,960 --> 01:30:52,479
Speaker 3: You see what Jackson's doing in the playoffs, don't you?

2026
01:30:54,280 --> 01:30:57,800
Speaker 1: Again, you're gonna label them losers?

2027
01:30:58,080 --> 01:31:03,559
Speaker 3: Yes, that's quite a stretch, Arnie.

2028
01:31:03,680 --> 01:31:04,000
Speaker 1: I think.

2029
01:31:04,080 --> 01:31:05,960
Speaker 2: I mean, if you want to label the Raiders losers,

2030
01:31:06,080 --> 01:31:09,080
Speaker 2: I gotta wear it. You want to label the Browns losers,

2031
01:31:09,840 --> 01:31:14,000
Speaker 2: I think Browns fans have to wear it. Dolphins, the Dolphins,

2032
01:31:14,000 --> 01:31:18,439
Speaker 2: you gotta wear it. The Ravens.

2033
01:31:18,439 --> 01:31:21,479
Speaker 3: Maybe I should have said Lamar Jackson in the playoffs.

2034
01:31:21,520 --> 01:31:24,360
Speaker 1: Well maybe, but even in that instance, he's there.

2035
01:31:24,400 --> 01:31:28,880
Speaker 2: They lost in the EFC Championship game, which wasn't his fault, Flowers.

2036
01:31:28,439 --> 01:31:31,400
Speaker 3: Somebody, it wasn't his fault. That we're gonna say that after?

2037
01:31:31,720 --> 01:31:36,040
Speaker 3: Is that like the you know, the disclaimer, but it

2038
01:31:36,080 --> 01:31:37,320
Speaker 3: wasn't his fault, don't.

2039
01:31:39,080 --> 01:31:41,519
Speaker 1: I'm not saying that's not the case this year. I'm

2040
01:31:41,560 --> 01:31:44,800
Speaker 1: just saying it was last year. You you just called

2041
01:31:44,840 --> 01:31:47,920
Speaker 1: an entire franchise. It's done nothing but win a bunch

2042
01:31:47,960 --> 01:31:48,559
Speaker 1: of losers.

2043
01:31:49,439 --> 01:31:51,479
Speaker 3: I don't know how much winning they're doing lately.

2044
01:31:52,400 --> 01:31:54,240
Speaker 2: They went twelve and five this year. They want a

2045
01:31:54,240 --> 01:31:57,360
Speaker 2: playoff game, then lost on the road whenever they.

2046
01:31:57,479 --> 01:31:59,960
Speaker 3: Would have seen that coming losing a playoff game.

2047
01:32:00,439 --> 01:32:04,120
Speaker 2: I'm just saying you're coming at it from a position

2048
01:32:04,240 --> 01:32:07,200
Speaker 2: that's just I don't know you need.

2049
01:32:07,280 --> 01:32:08,880
Speaker 3: Oh, I bet you the listeners agree with me.

2050
01:32:09,800 --> 01:32:12,360
Speaker 1: I bet they don't lost in the playoffs. I don't

2051
01:32:12,360 --> 01:32:16,479
Speaker 1: think you. I don't think why you wouldn't trade places

2052
01:32:16,520 --> 01:32:18,760
Speaker 1: with the Ravens right now and their fan base, with

2053
01:32:18,800 --> 01:32:20,240
Speaker 1: where they've been under John.

2054
01:32:20,000 --> 01:32:22,479
Speaker 3: Harmy, Dolphin Finn, I'd trade places with a lot.

2055
01:32:22,320 --> 01:32:24,160
Speaker 2: Of teams right now, right so, and then you would

2056
01:32:24,160 --> 01:32:25,880
Speaker 2: sit there and you wouldn't have any kind of feeling

2057
01:32:25,920 --> 01:32:27,679
Speaker 2: if someone said, yeah, you're a bunch of losers.

2058
01:32:28,920 --> 01:32:30,960
Speaker 1: I mean, dude, you're making a stand up to the

2059
01:32:31,040 --> 01:32:31,720
Speaker 1: Ravens here.

2060
01:32:31,880 --> 01:32:38,040
Speaker 2: You literally know you sad your fan. So Lamar Jackson

2061
01:32:38,080 --> 01:32:39,679
Speaker 2: is a loser, the two time league MVP.

2062
01:32:39,920 --> 01:32:41,720
Speaker 3: Well, he's been a loser in the playoffs.

2063
01:32:43,240 --> 01:32:44,920
Speaker 1: That's something that's something you know.

2064
01:32:44,960 --> 01:32:51,000
Speaker 2: Peyton Manning hadn't won a championship yet either, Yeah, and

2065
01:32:51,040 --> 01:32:53,080
Speaker 2: you were calling him a loser. Was he a loser

2066
01:32:53,160 --> 01:32:55,840
Speaker 2: before he won a title? Is Charles Barkley a loser

2067
01:32:55,880 --> 01:32:57,040
Speaker 2: because he never wanted to.

2068
01:32:57,120 --> 01:32:59,040
Speaker 3: A loser before he won his championship?

2069
01:32:59,160 --> 01:32:59,840
Speaker 1: I don't think so.

2070
01:33:00,439 --> 01:33:01,639
Speaker 3: They do think so.

2071
01:33:01,640 --> 01:33:04,120
Speaker 1: So the only way that you're a winter Dan Marino

2072
01:33:04,200 --> 01:33:07,920
Speaker 1: a loser, I don't think so. He's had an incredible career.

2073
01:33:08,200 --> 01:33:10,160
Speaker 3: The answer is yes, So you're.

2074
01:33:10,040 --> 01:33:11,759
Speaker 1: A loser if you don't win a title.

2075
01:33:13,000 --> 01:33:16,040
Speaker 3: Is Charles Barkley considered a loser in my mind?

2076
01:33:16,640 --> 01:33:17,519
Speaker 1: Not in my mind?

2077
01:33:17,680 --> 01:33:21,360
Speaker 2: Okay, so if you don't win, so Duran and all

2078
01:33:21,400 --> 01:33:24,439
Speaker 2: those guys are winners, Robert or he is a winner.

2079
01:33:25,760 --> 01:33:27,759
Speaker 1: Are you gonna start making this about every other sport?

2080
01:33:28,400 --> 01:33:29,680
Speaker 1: I mean, dude, what are you even doing right now?

2081
01:33:29,800 --> 01:33:31,960
Speaker 1: I know what you're trying to troll the Ravens right now,

2082
01:33:32,280 --> 01:33:33,760
Speaker 1: but I think you need to step back a little

2083
01:33:33,800 --> 01:33:36,599
Speaker 1: bit and realize, Yeah, they haven't gotten done in the playoffs,

2084
01:33:36,600 --> 01:33:38,519
Speaker 1: but under Harball, they won a championship, you got the

2085
01:33:38,520 --> 01:33:41,559
Speaker 1: two time league MVP twe You're constantly here. You're good

2086
01:33:41,560 --> 01:33:43,240
Speaker 1: to go. You're rolling, man.

2087
01:33:43,280 --> 01:33:45,880
Speaker 3: I think I think they're the most frustrated fan base

2088
01:33:46,640 --> 01:33:48,519
Speaker 3: after all of the fan bases this weekend.

2089
01:33:49,960 --> 01:33:53,800
Speaker 1: I don't care they lost in the divisional round. They

2090
01:33:53,840 --> 01:33:56,800
Speaker 1: got no leg to stand on to talk about being frustrated.

2091
01:33:57,040 --> 01:34:00,439
Speaker 1: Do not make the playoffs for about a decade. Go

2092
01:34:00,520 --> 01:34:02,880
Speaker 1: watch your arch rivals when you're to get the f

2093
01:34:02,960 --> 01:34:05,760
Speaker 1: out of here with Oh, they're so frustrated. No, they're

2094
01:34:05,800 --> 01:34:08,680
Speaker 1: living a charmed life. They're constantly going to the playoffs.

2095
01:34:08,760 --> 01:34:11,559
Speaker 2: Your quarterback is set for a long time and you're

2096
01:34:11,640 --> 01:34:14,720
Speaker 2: good there. You're tight end who was a Pro Bowl

2097
01:34:14,760 --> 01:34:17,400
Speaker 2: and you're all time leading receiver. Had a bad game,

2098
01:34:17,479 --> 01:34:20,120
Speaker 2: picked the wrong time, had a bad game. It happens

2099
01:34:20,160 --> 01:34:22,880
Speaker 2: to everyone. Save Flowers fumbles going into the end zone

2100
01:34:22,920 --> 01:34:25,160
Speaker 2: last year. I mean, I think it's just a matter

2101
01:34:25,200 --> 01:34:27,240
Speaker 2: of time before they run it through. Now can you

2102
01:34:27,280 --> 01:34:28,479
Speaker 2: say that about the Dolphins?

2103
01:34:28,520 --> 01:34:29,719
Speaker 3: Well, what about Henry? Also?

2104
01:34:29,760 --> 01:34:30,120
Speaker 1: What is he?

2105
01:34:30,240 --> 01:34:32,240
Speaker 3: Thirty two years old? Is at home?

2106
01:34:32,320 --> 01:34:34,439
Speaker 1: It's his first year with him, Maybe he break he

2107
01:34:34,479 --> 01:34:35,920
Speaker 1: had a breakthrough season.

2108
01:34:35,560 --> 01:34:37,160
Speaker 3: With you know what they say about running backs at

2109
01:34:37,240 --> 01:34:37,759
Speaker 3: hit thirty.

2110
01:34:38,080 --> 01:34:40,000
Speaker 1: Well he's thirty two now, so he's gonna know that.

2111
01:34:40,280 --> 01:34:42,519
Speaker 1: Don't make me stand up for the freaking Ravens, of

2112
01:34:42,600 --> 01:34:43,040
Speaker 1: all things.

2113
01:34:43,640 --> 01:34:45,439
Speaker 2: But I don't think the Ravens should be the most

2114
01:34:45,439 --> 01:34:48,080
Speaker 2: frustrated fan base after this weekends.

2115
01:34:48,160 --> 01:34:51,360
Speaker 1: I think it should be the Lions. Don't you You

2116
01:34:51,439 --> 01:34:55,080
Speaker 1: were at least at home, and yeah, all I heard

2117
01:34:55,080 --> 01:34:57,720
Speaker 1: about is how crazy that environment was going in there?

2118
01:34:57,760 --> 01:35:00,639
Speaker 2: I mean, Jane Daniels shut you up pretty quick. I mean,

2119
01:35:00,640 --> 01:35:02,800
Speaker 2: that's kind of what I took away from this weekend. Yeah,

2120
01:35:03,040 --> 01:35:05,160
Speaker 2: I'll tip my cap, I'll give you all your flowers

2121
01:35:05,160 --> 01:35:07,679
Speaker 2: for fighting through, but you still lost as a one

2122
01:35:07,720 --> 01:35:11,679
Speaker 2: seat at home against a team that was but close

2123
01:35:11,720 --> 01:35:13,040
Speaker 2: to a ten point underdog.

2124
01:35:13,520 --> 01:35:15,080
Speaker 3: But if we if we thought there was gonna be

2125
01:35:15,120 --> 01:35:17,200
Speaker 3: an upset from the weekend, that was a lot of

2126
01:35:17,240 --> 01:35:18,439
Speaker 3: what a lot of people were picking.

2127
01:35:18,560 --> 01:35:22,000
Speaker 2: I heard nobody picking the Commanders over the Lions. Who

2128
01:35:22,040 --> 01:35:23,200
Speaker 2: picked the Commanders over the line?

2129
01:35:23,200 --> 01:35:24,479
Speaker 3: I think a lot of people were jumping on that

2130
01:35:24,560 --> 01:35:26,080
Speaker 3: bandwagon as of lately.

2131
01:35:26,320 --> 01:35:29,840
Speaker 1: I who, well, I just just mean maybe to take

2132
01:35:29,880 --> 01:35:32,000
Speaker 1: him to cover the spread. I don't think anyone's like

2133
01:35:32,000 --> 01:35:34,080
Speaker 1: they're gonna go beat the Lions. I think it's easy

2134
01:35:34,080 --> 01:35:36,360
Speaker 1: to say that afterwards, but come on, man, were you

2135
01:35:36,439 --> 01:35:38,200
Speaker 1: picking the Commanders to go beat the Lions?

2136
01:35:38,280 --> 01:35:38,400
Speaker 4: No?

2137
01:35:38,439 --> 01:35:39,800
Speaker 3: I just took them with the spread though.

2138
01:35:39,800 --> 01:35:40,120
Speaker 1: I see.

2139
01:35:40,240 --> 01:35:41,519
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean if you want to say they were

2140
01:35:41,520 --> 01:35:43,920
Speaker 2: taking eight and a half, that's fine, But I mean

2141
01:35:44,320 --> 01:35:46,599
Speaker 2: suddenly when they win the game, I feel like it's

2142
01:35:46,640 --> 01:35:48,400
Speaker 2: it's very excusey when you're like, well, a lot of

2143
01:35:48,400 --> 01:35:51,799
Speaker 2: people thought they were gonna win. No, they didn't outside

2144
01:35:51,800 --> 01:35:53,680
Speaker 2: of a handful of Commander fans.

2145
01:35:53,680 --> 01:35:54,960
Speaker 1: The Commands and what.

2146
01:35:54,840 --> 01:35:55,840
Speaker 3: They thought about the game.

2147
01:35:55,920 --> 01:35:58,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, all right, So you hit us up on Twitter

2148
01:35:58,200 --> 01:36:00,040
Speaker 2: at Steaking Genius one. I'm at playing show. Maybe you

2149
01:36:00,080 --> 01:36:02,600
Speaker 2: agree with Arnie. Maybe the Ravens are a bunch of losers.

2150
01:36:02,800 --> 01:36:05,200
Speaker 2: I would trade places with you in a heartbeat. You

2151
01:36:05,520 --> 01:36:08,920
Speaker 2: heartbroken purple clad fans today who went on the road

2152
01:36:08,920 --> 01:36:12,040
Speaker 2: and lost in heartbreaking fashion because you can't hold onto

2153
01:36:12,040 --> 01:36:14,559
Speaker 2: the football. It happens. But you're gonna be back next year.

2154
01:36:14,600 --> 01:36:16,320
Speaker 2: Do you think the Ravens are suddenly gonna fall off

2155
01:36:16,320 --> 01:36:17,799
Speaker 2: the planet next year and be terrible?

2156
01:36:18,479 --> 01:36:20,719
Speaker 3: No, but the thirty two year old running back gonna

2157
01:36:20,720 --> 01:36:21,320
Speaker 3: be thirty three.

2158
01:36:21,520 --> 01:36:23,559
Speaker 1: This is only here that he's been with them.

2159
01:36:23,680 --> 01:36:26,960
Speaker 3: That is a warning flag, Chris, that's a warning flag.

2160
01:36:27,360 --> 01:36:30,120
Speaker 2: So before him, they were even better. They went to

2161
01:36:30,160 --> 01:36:32,360
Speaker 2: the championship game last year without him.

2162
01:36:32,800 --> 01:36:36,519
Speaker 3: And also you got to think that maybe Cincinnati will

2163
01:36:36,520 --> 01:36:37,920
Speaker 3: get off to a little bit of a better start.

2164
01:36:37,960 --> 01:36:40,720
Speaker 3: There'll be a team to worry about it. So it's

2165
01:36:40,760 --> 01:36:43,360
Speaker 3: a three team rays Cleveland, we'll always think, so we'll

2166
01:36:43,400 --> 01:36:44,000
Speaker 3: forget about that.

2167
01:36:44,200 --> 01:36:48,439
Speaker 2: Well maybe not. Maybe they get themselves a quarterback. All right,

2168
01:36:48,840 --> 01:36:51,680
Speaker 2: when we come back, we'll hit your your tweets. We'll

2169
01:36:51,720 --> 01:36:54,600
Speaker 2: hit some audio from the post game today, including a

2170
01:36:54,680 --> 01:36:58,559
Speaker 2: very frustrated Lamar Jackson, who apparently sucks. We'll talk about it,

2171
01:36:58,560 --> 01:37:01,680
Speaker 2: coming up with Arnie Plank on Fox Sports Radio. All right,

2172
01:37:01,680 --> 01:37:04,519
Speaker 2: it's Arny in Plank here on a Fox Sports Sunday

2173
01:37:04,520 --> 01:37:07,400
Speaker 2: into a Monday. Oh, we only got a couple of

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Speaker 2: segments left. Arnie's picks coming up in a bit.

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Speaker 3: You already late in the economy of of course.

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01:37:14,560 --> 01:37:19,320
Speaker 1: Well Vermont allegedly, do you really the fact?

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01:37:20,840 --> 01:37:25,160
Speaker 2: Okay, I hit the tweets excess to the show at

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Speaker 2: Steaking Genius. Want them at Plank show. Everybody go follow

2179
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Speaker 2: us at Fox Sports Radio. These were just two that

2180
01:37:30,720 --> 01:37:35,160
Speaker 2: came in during the last break that caught my eye

2181
01:37:35,920 --> 01:37:40,479
Speaker 2: at Stephan Rights Derrick Henry and all Stephan you got

2182
01:37:40,520 --> 01:37:41,400
Speaker 2: to up your game, buddy.

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01:37:41,400 --> 01:37:42,680
Speaker 1: Only two followers. Let's go.

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01:37:43,120 --> 01:37:45,439
Speaker 2: Dereck Henry and Lamar Jackson aren't going to play this

2185
01:37:45,560 --> 01:37:48,240
Speaker 2: well forever. With their running style, which I feel like

2186
01:37:48,280 --> 01:37:51,640
Speaker 2: we say every year with Lamar Jackson, running backs and

2187
01:37:51,680 --> 01:37:54,200
Speaker 2: running qbs have a short shelf life. This was supposed

2188
01:37:54,200 --> 01:37:56,040
Speaker 2: to be their year. Well, I mean it was supposed

2189
01:37:56,040 --> 01:37:58,000
Speaker 2: to be the forty nine ers year too. I mean,

2190
01:37:58,479 --> 01:38:00,360
Speaker 2: every year it's supposed to be someone here and it

2191
01:38:00,360 --> 01:38:02,559
Speaker 2: doesn't work out. But if you want to try to

2192
01:38:02,600 --> 01:38:05,280
Speaker 2: hang it on, they've got a window that's closing.

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01:38:05,320 --> 01:38:06,280
Speaker 1: I can't argue with that.

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01:38:06,560 --> 01:38:09,840
Speaker 3: No, I agree with that.

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01:38:09,000 --> 01:38:10,920
Speaker 1: But I'm also not going to sit here and call

2196
01:38:10,960 --> 01:38:12,880
Speaker 1: them a bunch of losers because they didn't make it

2197
01:38:12,920 --> 01:38:16,280
Speaker 1: to the championship game. Josh writes, I don't agree that

2198
01:38:16,320 --> 01:38:18,400
Speaker 1: they're losers, but I agree with the Already the fans

2199
01:38:18,400 --> 01:38:19,200
Speaker 1: can be frustrated.

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01:38:19,520 --> 01:38:22,240
Speaker 2: I lived with Manning and the Colts. Get your hopes up,

2201
01:38:22,240 --> 01:38:24,640
Speaker 2: to have them dashed. I would rather miss the playoffs

2202
01:38:24,640 --> 01:38:26,000
Speaker 2: and being let down every year.

2203
01:38:26,280 --> 01:38:29,760
Speaker 3: Oh, Josh, that's incorrect.

2204
01:38:30,000 --> 01:38:32,960
Speaker 2: I would much rather I when the Raiders made the

2205
01:38:33,000 --> 01:38:36,960
Speaker 2: playoffs in twenty twenty, just the feeling of leaning up

2206
01:38:37,000 --> 01:38:38,800
Speaker 2: to the game, in the excitement and the hype.

2207
01:38:38,840 --> 01:38:41,600
Speaker 1: It's the best feeling in the world. Get out of

2208
01:38:41,640 --> 01:38:42,080
Speaker 1: here with that.

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01:38:42,479 --> 01:38:45,320
Speaker 2: Nobody in the history of sports would rather have their

2210
01:38:45,360 --> 01:38:48,200
Speaker 2: team miss the playoffs than not have that excitement and

2211
01:38:48,240 --> 01:38:51,200
Speaker 2: that injury and even you know, having your hopes dashed

2212
01:38:51,320 --> 01:38:52,679
Speaker 2: or having them play out.

2213
01:38:52,760 --> 01:38:53,760
Speaker 1: You know that? What what?

2214
01:38:53,760 --> 01:38:57,040
Speaker 2: What's the old ABC thing? The thrill of victory, the

2215
01:38:57,080 --> 01:38:57,920
Speaker 2: agony of defeat?

2216
01:38:57,960 --> 01:38:59,160
Speaker 3: Come on, yep, yeah yeah.

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01:38:59,200 --> 01:39:02,280
Speaker 2: But though you have said many times before you would

2218
01:39:02,360 --> 01:39:04,880
Speaker 2: much rather have your team get blown out than lose

2219
01:39:04,880 --> 01:39:05,759
Speaker 2: a close game.

2220
01:39:05,600 --> 01:39:07,719
Speaker 3: Well, I've always said, is it better to have loved

2221
01:39:07,760 --> 01:39:10,560
Speaker 3: and lost than to never have loved at all? Oh?

2222
01:39:10,600 --> 01:39:14,360
Speaker 2: Profound you see, like Dodger, Frank writes, Bernie Sanders probably

2223
01:39:14,439 --> 01:39:17,439
Speaker 2: gives more winning wagers for the people of Vermont and Arnie.

2224
01:39:17,800 --> 01:39:20,519
Speaker 3: No, Bernie doesn't give more winning picks than I do.

2225
01:39:20,840 --> 01:39:22,160
Speaker 1: No, that's not sure about that.

2226
01:39:22,600 --> 01:39:24,280
Speaker 3: I'm closed as being sure.

2227
01:39:25,320 --> 01:39:28,840
Speaker 2: Josh Allen played like Patrick Mahomes today, a double shot

2228
01:39:28,840 --> 01:39:32,240
Speaker 2: from a Stefan, didn't turn the ball over, move the chains,

2229
01:39:32,360 --> 01:39:36,679
Speaker 2: and ran the ball. Lamar tries to be the superhero. Yeah,

2230
01:39:36,680 --> 01:39:38,560
Speaker 2: but it works out so well.

2231
01:39:38,200 --> 01:39:40,519
Speaker 3: It's all about It's all about the turnovers. See, Josh

2232
01:39:40,560 --> 01:39:43,400
Speaker 3: didn't have a great game, at least not statistically, but

2233
01:39:43,439 --> 01:39:46,080
Speaker 3: the zero turnovers is what wins the game for you

2234
01:39:46,160 --> 01:39:50,360
Speaker 3: in that situation. And by the way, the Jackson fumbball

2235
01:39:50,600 --> 01:39:53,559
Speaker 3: was scooped up and resulted in seven, So that was

2236
01:39:53,600 --> 01:39:55,919
Speaker 3: like a gift out there that that was a big time.

2237
01:39:55,920 --> 01:39:58,040
Speaker 2: Ball rights being a Bills fan for over thirty years,

2238
01:39:58,040 --> 01:40:00,200
Speaker 2: and the only thing that shocked me on the two

2239
01:40:00,240 --> 01:40:03,120
Speaker 2: point conversion was that the ball didn't stick in the

2240
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Speaker 2: face mask of Andrews after he dropped it. And before

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01:40:07,479 --> 01:40:09,800
Speaker 2: we get to Sega's final update of the night, here's one.

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01:40:09,920 --> 01:40:12,720
Speaker 2: We haven't talked about this too much tonight because I

2243
01:40:12,800 --> 01:40:15,520
Speaker 2: kind of feel like it was the conversation all Saturday

2244
01:40:15,560 --> 01:40:17,519
Speaker 2: and into Sunday, and in the end, the chief still

2245
01:40:17,520 --> 01:40:20,920
Speaker 2: won the game. But Brendan writes, I gotta know how

2246
01:40:21,000 --> 01:40:23,400
Speaker 2: much dirt did the Kansas City Chiefs have on the

2247
01:40:23,479 --> 01:40:25,799
Speaker 2: league for them to get the benefit of the doubt

2248
01:40:26,120 --> 01:40:28,760
Speaker 2: on roughing the passer and other calls. This has got

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01:40:28,920 --> 01:40:32,720
Speaker 2: to stop immediately. Well, the roughing the passer call on

2250
01:40:32,760 --> 01:40:34,360
Speaker 2: the Will Anderson hit in the.

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01:40:34,280 --> 01:40:38,719
Speaker 1: First that was bad. Ye, the two guys that collided.

2252
01:40:38,840 --> 01:40:41,280
Speaker 2: I can see where they might have called that, But

2253
01:40:41,479 --> 01:40:43,360
Speaker 2: this is where I wish they could look back at it.

2254
01:40:43,400 --> 01:40:46,080
Speaker 2: I mean, college you can go back and look at

2255
01:40:46,080 --> 01:40:48,879
Speaker 2: these targeting calls and they'll be like, oh, there's not targeting,

2256
01:40:48,920 --> 01:40:52,479
Speaker 2: there's no personal foul, So that'll play on I wish

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01:40:52,479 --> 01:40:55,640
Speaker 2: the league would look at that. The thing that frustrated

2258
01:40:55,680 --> 01:41:01,760
Speaker 2: me most about Mahomes yesterday was the the fake kind

2259
01:41:01,760 --> 01:41:03,920
Speaker 2: of slowly down to go out of bounding and flopping

2260
01:41:04,320 --> 01:41:06,320
Speaker 2: whenever he's on the sidelines. And you've seen him do

2261
01:41:06,320 --> 01:41:09,600
Speaker 2: it a couple of times, and I mean, he'll end

2262
01:41:09,640 --> 01:41:11,400
Speaker 2: up getting hurt because someone's gonna knock the you know

2263
01:41:11,439 --> 01:41:12,040
Speaker 2: what out.

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01:41:11,840 --> 01:41:13,439
Speaker 1: Of him and then he'll flag for it.

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01:41:13,560 --> 01:41:16,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, but I'm just telling you the league's got a

2266
01:41:16,080 --> 01:41:17,919
Speaker 2: step in on that because it's not just Mahomes.

2267
01:41:17,960 --> 01:41:19,400
Speaker 1: More quarterbacks are doing it. Arnie.

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01:41:19,600 --> 01:41:21,920
Speaker 2: You see kind of the fake slide. You see the

2269
01:41:21,960 --> 01:41:24,960
Speaker 2: get over the sideline and kind of wait until someone

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01:41:24,960 --> 01:41:25,519
Speaker 2: gets close.

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01:41:25,640 --> 01:41:28,360
Speaker 3: He's taking it to new levels though he really has.

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01:41:28,160 --> 01:41:30,639
Speaker 3: It's I mean, it's it's not even just a dancing

2273
01:41:30,680 --> 01:41:34,280
Speaker 3: along the sideline. He purposely slows up the stay in

2274
01:41:34,360 --> 01:41:36,000
Speaker 3: bounds hoping he gets it like that.

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01:41:36,400 --> 01:41:37,360
Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly.

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01:41:37,479 --> 01:41:39,680
Speaker 2: Oh, by the way, one more quick one here from

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01:41:39,720 --> 01:41:42,200
Speaker 2: Frank who writes Mark Andrews dropped that ball the way

2278
01:41:42,320 --> 01:41:44,800
Speaker 2: Arnie drops his sports teams after they disappoint him.

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01:41:45,120 --> 01:41:45,840
Speaker 1: That's pretty fair.

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01:41:45,920 --> 01:41:49,960
Speaker 3: I mean, Jill Dolphin fans still Arizona Wildcat fans still there, baby.

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01:41:49,800 --> 01:41:50,439
Speaker 1: Gat there.

2282
01:41:50,800 --> 01:41:53,840
Speaker 2: I mean you literally once your coach fired, and you've

2283
01:41:53,920 --> 01:41:56,240
Speaker 2: been better that you've been over the last few years

2284
01:41:56,280 --> 01:41:56,960
Speaker 2: in a decade.

2285
01:41:58,000 --> 01:42:00,519
Speaker 1: So get him out of here. Get that kids better

2286
01:42:00,600 --> 01:42:03,080
Speaker 1: off the sidelines, all right?

2287
01:42:03,120 --> 01:42:06,320
Speaker 2: One final time Tonight Steve de Sager comes rolling in it.

2288
01:42:06,360 --> 01:42:08,400
Speaker 1: Get has caught up on everything in the world of sports.

2289
01:42:08,400 --> 01:42:09,120
Speaker 1: What's up, Steve?

2290
01:42:09,240 --> 01:42:11,719
Speaker 5: Well, we know the NFC title game will be Washington

2291
01:42:11,760 --> 01:42:15,280
Speaker 5: at Philadelphia next weekend. There was a note last night

2292
01:42:15,320 --> 01:42:20,120
Speaker 5: after Washington advance. Ever since Troy Aikman's Cowboys kept making

2293
01:42:20,160 --> 01:42:24,240
Speaker 5: the conference final up through the mid nineties. Since the

2294
01:42:24,280 --> 01:42:27,880
Speaker 5: mid nineties, every other team in the NFC has now

2295
01:42:27,920 --> 01:42:30,040
Speaker 5: made a conference championship.

2296
01:42:29,360 --> 01:42:30,520
Speaker 1: But not the Cowboys.

2297
01:42:30,920 --> 01:42:31,880
Speaker 3: Oh geez.

2298
01:42:32,120 --> 01:42:38,080
Speaker 5: In fact, that's that's your NFC drought, it belongs to Dallas.

2299
01:42:38,240 --> 01:42:41,080
Speaker 5: In the AFC, the droughts belonged to the Dolphins not

2300
01:42:41,200 --> 01:42:45,720
Speaker 5: since ninety two, and Cleveland not since eighty nine. Philadelphia

2301
01:42:45,800 --> 01:42:48,640
Speaker 5: beat the Rams Buffalo over the Ravens to finish up

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01:42:48,680 --> 01:42:51,720
Speaker 5: the NFL's divisional playoffs, and yes, Fox TV will have

2303
01:42:51,760 --> 01:42:55,360
Speaker 5: next Sunday's NFC Championship three pm Eastern time, Washington at

2304
01:42:55,360 --> 01:42:58,439
Speaker 5: Philadelphia they split their two regular season meetings. No snow

2305
01:42:58,479 --> 01:43:01,679
Speaker 5: in the forecast for next weekend, Unlike today in Philly,

2306
01:43:02,000 --> 01:43:05,120
Speaker 5: Eagles rookie defensive back Quinyon Mitchell left against the Rams

2307
01:43:05,120 --> 01:43:08,519
Speaker 5: with a shoulder injury. Washington guard Sam Cosmi suffered a

2308
01:43:08,600 --> 01:43:12,240
Speaker 5: torn acl last night. Washington has won seven in a

2309
01:43:12,320 --> 01:43:15,520
Speaker 5: row after the upset of Detroit. You know, as of Thanksgiving,

2310
01:43:15,600 --> 01:43:19,919
Speaker 5: Washington's record was seven and five. They're undefeated since Eagles

2311
01:43:19,960 --> 01:43:22,920
Speaker 5: beat the Rams twenty eight to twenty two. Saquon Barkley

2312
01:43:22,920 --> 01:43:25,920
Speaker 5: on twenty six carries, had two hundred five yards rushing

2313
01:43:25,960 --> 01:43:27,280
Speaker 5: and two scores.

2314
01:43:26,840 --> 01:43:28,479
Speaker 1: Including a couple more long ones.

2315
01:43:28,520 --> 01:43:30,600
Speaker 5: The Rams are used to that Jalen Hurts with an

2316
01:43:30,600 --> 01:43:34,479
Speaker 5: early forty four yard TD run he despite the knee injury.

2317
01:43:34,560 --> 01:43:35,640
Speaker 1: For I don't know.

2318
01:43:35,720 --> 01:43:37,360
Speaker 5: I wouldn't say much of the game, but a fair

2319
01:43:37,400 --> 01:43:40,280
Speaker 5: amount of the game today seven carries seventy yards. The

2320
01:43:40,280 --> 01:43:43,080
Speaker 5: Eagles were up sixteen fifteen to start the fourth quarter.

2321
01:43:43,520 --> 01:43:45,880
Speaker 5: Jake Elliott three for three on field goals, but he

2322
01:43:45,960 --> 01:43:50,000
Speaker 5: missed two extra point attempts. But aj Brown had only

2323
01:43:50,000 --> 01:43:53,599
Speaker 5: two catches, and they advance. And I will say, yes,

2324
01:43:53,720 --> 01:43:56,240
Speaker 5: Barkley was the man. But the Eagles offense as a

2325
01:43:56,280 --> 01:44:00,640
Speaker 5: whole after that first drive touchdown, only thirteen downs on

2326
01:44:00,680 --> 01:44:02,440
Speaker 5: the other twelve drives.

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01:44:02,040 --> 01:44:03,080
Speaker 1: Today oh wow.

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01:44:03,200 --> 01:44:06,639
Speaker 5: In fact, including the sacks, Philadelphia had just sixty five

2329
01:44:06,760 --> 01:44:10,720
Speaker 5: yards net passing and still advance. The Rams defense had

2330
01:44:10,800 --> 01:44:13,960
Speaker 5: seven sacks, but the Eagles had five against Matthew Stafford,

2331
01:44:13,960 --> 01:44:16,559
Speaker 5: who had a fumble, and Rams running back Kyra and Williams,

2332
01:44:16,600 --> 01:44:18,880
Speaker 5: who had the fumble problem. In the regular season game

2333
01:44:18,880 --> 01:44:23,120
Speaker 5: against Philly nineteen carries one hundred and six yards, one fumble. Today,

2334
01:44:23,160 --> 01:44:28,120
Speaker 5: Puka Nicola was targeted fourteen times, six catches ninety seven yards.

2335
01:44:28,320 --> 01:44:30,240
Speaker 5: As we mentioned earlier in the show, the Rams on

2336
01:44:30,280 --> 01:44:33,320
Speaker 5: the final possession drove down inside Philly's twenty, but was

2337
01:44:33,360 --> 01:44:36,559
Speaker 5: sacked on third down and threw incomplete on fourth down.

2338
01:44:36,800 --> 01:44:41,080
Speaker 5: Seasonzhos over the Rams end at eleven and eight, Baltimore's

2339
01:44:41,120 --> 01:44:45,000
Speaker 5: out ending a season at thirteen and six. Buffalo undefeated

2340
01:44:45,000 --> 01:44:47,160
Speaker 5: at home. They went ten to zero home games this year,

2341
01:44:47,200 --> 01:44:50,599
Speaker 5: eliminated the Ravens twenty seven to twenty five. The Bills

2342
01:44:50,640 --> 01:44:55,480
Speaker 5: had only one penalty, no turnovers. Ravens with three turnovers.

2343
01:44:55,520 --> 01:44:59,160
Speaker 5: Had mentioned earlier, the Bills turnover margin was easily the

2344
01:44:59,200 --> 01:45:01,600
Speaker 5: best in the entire higher NFL this year. It was

2345
01:45:01,640 --> 01:45:05,400
Speaker 5: a plus twenty four and a plus three tonight. Lamar

2346
01:45:05,479 --> 01:45:09,519
Speaker 5: Jackson two touchdown passes but two turnovers, including that fumble

2347
01:45:09,560 --> 01:45:12,240
Speaker 5: you mentioned that led to a touchdown in the first half.

2348
01:45:12,439 --> 01:45:15,320
Speaker 5: Ravens missed two two point passes in the second half,

2349
01:45:15,320 --> 01:45:18,080
Speaker 5: and wide receiver Za Flowers was out again with his

2350
01:45:18,160 --> 01:45:21,280
Speaker 5: knee injury. So Buffalo, the two seed in the AFC,

2351
01:45:21,320 --> 01:45:23,639
Speaker 5: will be at one seed Kansas City for the AFC

2352
01:45:23,720 --> 01:45:28,920
Speaker 5: Championship next Sunday. By the way, Buffalo did win its

2353
01:45:28,960 --> 01:45:31,920
Speaker 5: AFC East for a fifth straight season, did make the

2354
01:45:31,960 --> 01:45:34,400
Speaker 5: divisional round for a fifth straight year. They had lost

2355
01:45:34,439 --> 01:45:37,000
Speaker 5: three of those divisional playoff games in a row. They're

2356
01:45:37,040 --> 01:45:40,640
Speaker 5: still alive, and the Bills did beat Kansas City in November.

2357
01:45:40,840 --> 01:45:43,080
Speaker 5: Granted the game was in Buffalo, but the Chiefs had

2358
01:45:43,080 --> 01:45:45,920
Speaker 5: been nine to zero up to that point to the NBA.

2359
01:45:46,080 --> 01:45:49,040
Speaker 5: Steph Curry of Golden State questionable for Monday's game with

2360
01:45:49,080 --> 01:45:51,800
Speaker 5: a sprained ankle. Evan Mobley of Cleveland expected to be

2361
01:45:51,840 --> 01:45:54,920
Speaker 5: out Monday with a calf injury. Anthony Davis did come

2362
01:45:54,960 --> 01:45:57,240
Speaker 5: back for the Lakers tonight after a foot injury. Had

2363
01:45:57,280 --> 01:46:00,160
Speaker 5: sixteen points in a loss at the Clippers Portland to

2364
01:46:00,200 --> 01:46:04,320
Speaker 5: the five game losing streak, beating Chicago, Sacramento over Washington.

2365
01:46:04,760 --> 01:46:07,519
Speaker 5: The Washington Wizards have not only lost ten in a row,

2366
01:46:07,560 --> 01:46:09,799
Speaker 5: they have a record of six and thirty five.

2367
01:46:10,040 --> 01:46:10,479
Speaker 3: Geez.

2368
01:46:10,600 --> 01:46:13,160
Speaker 5: So we're at the halfway point of the NBA season.

2369
01:46:13,240 --> 01:46:15,600
Speaker 5: We've been playing close to three months, right they have

2370
01:46:15,720 --> 01:46:19,920
Speaker 5: six wins. Kyle Kuzma three of fifteen shooting from the floor.

2371
01:46:20,320 --> 01:46:23,000
Speaker 5: Milwaukee sent Philadelphia to a six straight loss.

2372
01:46:23,040 --> 01:46:23,120
Speaker 3: No.

2373
01:46:23,240 --> 01:46:27,160
Speaker 5: Paul George does not play. No joelmb did not play.

2374
01:46:27,520 --> 01:46:31,240
Speaker 5: Oklahoma City won again victories for Miami and Denver College hoops.

2375
01:46:31,320 --> 01:46:34,439
Speaker 5: Top twenty Michigan State over Illinois eighty to seventy eight.

2376
01:46:34,760 --> 01:46:39,640
Speaker 5: Women's hoops. Number two South Carolina beat number thirteen Oklahoma

2377
01:46:40,439 --> 01:46:43,920
Speaker 5: one on one of them to sixty. South Carolina has

2378
01:46:43,960 --> 01:46:47,719
Speaker 5: won sixty eight straight at home and Number six Yukon

2379
01:46:47,800 --> 01:46:51,000
Speaker 5: has beaten Seaton Hall in women's hoops forty straight times.

2380
01:46:51,320 --> 01:46:55,080
Speaker 5: Today's final was ninety six thirty six and the final

2381
01:46:55,160 --> 01:46:58,160
Speaker 5: notes are from baseball. As the Dodger signed lefty reliever

2382
01:46:58,280 --> 01:47:01,759
Speaker 5: Tanner Scott reportedly for four years and including deferred money.

2383
01:47:01,840 --> 01:47:03,600
Speaker 5: This guy when he was in the playoffs with the

2384
01:47:03,640 --> 01:47:07,040
Speaker 5: Padres faced show. Heyo Tani four times, had struck about

2385
01:47:07,080 --> 01:47:09,040
Speaker 5: four times, was an All Star for the first time

2386
01:47:09,160 --> 01:47:12,160
Speaker 5: last summer with Miami and then traded. He's a Dodger

2387
01:47:12,200 --> 01:47:15,679
Speaker 5: now and former manager and catcher Jeff Torborg passed away.

2388
01:47:15,760 --> 01:47:16,599
Speaker 3: Yeah, I saw that.

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Speaker 5: He was eighty three years old. Was Ale Manager of

2390
01:47:19,439 --> 01:47:22,360
Speaker 5: the Year with the White Sox nineteen ninety Met's one year.

2391
01:47:22,600 --> 01:47:26,080
Speaker 5: Caught Sandy Kofax's perfect game as a Dodger, caught a

2392
01:47:26,120 --> 01:47:29,439
Speaker 5: Bill Singer no hitter, then an Angels Nolan Ryan no hitter,

2393
01:47:29,560 --> 01:47:32,439
Speaker 5: his first. Jeff Torboard passing away back to you.

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01:47:32,760 --> 01:47:36,519
Speaker 2: Thanks Steve. Yeah, man, you sent that before the show started.

2395
01:47:36,560 --> 01:47:38,759
Speaker 2: I remember him. I think I had like eight thousand

2396
01:47:38,840 --> 01:47:40,639
Speaker 2: of his baseball cards. It was just one of those

2397
01:47:40,680 --> 01:47:43,680
Speaker 2: comments that I would always get. But yeah, r itp man,

2398
01:47:43,720 --> 01:47:46,040
Speaker 2: that's sad, all right. Hit a couple of tweets, then

2399
01:47:46,040 --> 01:47:47,920
Speaker 2: we'll get out of here with Arnie's picks and make

2400
01:47:47,960 --> 01:47:51,720
Speaker 2: way for Big Ben mallor two college football questions here

2401
01:47:52,720 --> 01:47:55,479
Speaker 2: Minnesota sooner asks, Ohio State or Notre Dame going to

2402
01:47:55,520 --> 01:47:58,720
Speaker 2: cover the ridiculous spread to which Toga wants to know

2403
01:47:58,800 --> 01:48:01,759
Speaker 2: is the point spread in the game too high. Already

2404
01:48:01,800 --> 01:48:04,840
Speaker 2: tends to think, no, it couldn't be high enough based

2405
01:48:04,880 --> 01:48:07,600
Speaker 2: on the vibes I'm getting from you, and you're disdained

2406
01:48:07,640 --> 01:48:09,360
Speaker 2: for Marcus Freeman's Notre Dame team.

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01:48:09,479 --> 01:48:12,640
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm laying the eight and a half. Actually, it

2408
01:48:12,680 --> 01:48:14,400
Speaker 3: opened up at nine and a half, got bet down

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01:48:14,439 --> 01:48:16,160
Speaker 3: to eight and a half. I think it's been down there,

2410
01:48:16,200 --> 01:48:19,559
Speaker 3: as you mentioned when you talk to Todd for most

2411
01:48:19,600 --> 01:48:23,280
Speaker 3: of the week. I'm gonna lay the points. I think

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01:48:23,320 --> 01:48:26,160
Speaker 3: Ohio State's offensively just going to be too much for

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01:48:26,600 --> 01:48:29,680
Speaker 3: Notre Dame to keep up with, even though I'm not

2414
01:48:29,720 --> 01:48:32,000
Speaker 3: even so much worried about a backdoor cover like what

2415
01:48:32,040 --> 01:48:35,439
Speaker 3: the Kansas City Chiefs did. But I think it's gonna

2416
01:48:35,479 --> 01:48:37,240
Speaker 3: be like a fourteen or seventeen point win.

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01:48:38,360 --> 01:48:40,840
Speaker 2: This was one of the first tweets that came in

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01:48:40,880 --> 01:48:42,320
Speaker 2: today and I'm meant to get to it in the

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01:48:42,360 --> 01:48:48,439
Speaker 2: first hour, But big tim Guru rites a Washington versus

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01:48:49,000 --> 01:48:53,519
Speaker 2: Buffalo Super Bowl rematch would be great for viewers. Now,

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01:48:53,560 --> 01:48:57,120
Speaker 2: I tend to think that the best rated games are

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01:48:57,120 --> 01:49:00,000
Speaker 2: going to involve the Chiefs. Obviously, you get the Taylor's

2423
01:49:00,040 --> 01:49:04,599
Speaker 2: with the fact Patrick Mahomes. But maybe getting Washington back

2424
01:49:04,760 --> 01:49:08,080
Speaker 2: in there first time since the days of the Redskins

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01:49:08,120 --> 01:49:10,800
Speaker 2: to play for a Super Bowl, maybe would that be

2426
01:49:10,840 --> 01:49:13,280
Speaker 2: a big draw in European I don't, he thinks so.

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01:49:13,439 --> 01:49:17,000
Speaker 3: I think Kansas City, Philadelphia, Buffalo, Philadelphia would be obviously

2428
01:49:17,080 --> 01:49:22,639
Speaker 3: the you know, two of the highest rated matchups. After that,

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01:49:22,760 --> 01:49:25,479
Speaker 3: I think Washington would probably be on the lower end

2430
01:49:25,479 --> 01:49:26,960
Speaker 3: of the spectrum there.

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01:49:27,160 --> 01:49:29,720
Speaker 2: My gosh, I didn't realize how long ago this was.

2432
01:49:29,760 --> 01:49:32,559
Speaker 2: Do you remember when the Bills and Redskins played each other?

2433
01:49:33,439 --> 01:49:34,479
Speaker 2: Do you know what year it was?

2434
01:49:34,640 --> 01:49:38,080
Speaker 1: It was the ninety one and the nineteen ninety two

2435
01:49:38,160 --> 01:49:38,759
Speaker 1: Super Bowl.

2436
01:49:39,120 --> 01:49:43,519
Speaker 3: My high school quarterback was the quarterback Trader Jay Trader

2437
01:49:43,560 --> 01:49:46,200
Speaker 3: for the Washington Redskins and the Oakland Raiders.

2438
01:49:47,160 --> 01:49:49,559
Speaker 1: But I think we were Los Angeles Raiders.

2439
01:49:49,600 --> 01:49:51,000
Speaker 3: Oh the LA Raiders. My bad.

2440
01:49:51,120 --> 01:49:54,479
Speaker 1: Yeah. But he wasn't a starting quarterback for Washington. I

2441
01:49:54,520 --> 01:49:55,599
Speaker 1: believe he was for the Raiders.

2442
01:49:55,600 --> 01:49:59,000
Speaker 2: He was, but he wasn't for our Excuse me, he

2443
01:49:59,040 --> 01:50:01,639
Speaker 2: wasn't the starting quarterback for the Washington Redskins that year.

2444
01:50:01,800 --> 01:50:02,439
Speaker 3: Oh he wasn't.

2445
01:50:02,640 --> 01:50:03,559
Speaker 1: No, Mark Rippon was.

2446
01:50:03,800 --> 01:50:06,479
Speaker 2: Oh that's right, that's yeah, Yeah, ripping was and He

2447
01:50:06,640 --> 01:50:08,760
Speaker 2: was eventually the starter for the Raiders when we got

2448
01:50:08,760 --> 01:50:11,439
Speaker 2: beat eight thousand to zero by the Bills in the

2449
01:50:11,479 --> 01:50:15,320
Speaker 2: AFC Championship game. How about Jim Kelly statline By the way,

2450
01:50:15,320 --> 01:50:17,719
Speaker 2: thanks Pac ten guru, you got me down a rabbit

2451
01:50:17,720 --> 01:50:21,920
Speaker 2: hole now in that game, Jim Kelly two hundred and

2452
01:50:21,920 --> 01:50:25,960
Speaker 2: seventy five yards passing four interceptions. Ooh, Thurman Thomas ten

2453
01:50:26,040 --> 01:50:27,439
Speaker 2: carries for thirteen yards.

2454
01:50:27,479 --> 01:50:29,240
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's not going to cut it. He should have

2455
01:50:29,840 --> 01:50:31,599
Speaker 3: kept his helmet lost then, I guess.

2456
01:50:32,880 --> 01:50:36,120
Speaker 1: Paul our resident Bills guru rights.

2457
01:50:36,479 --> 01:50:38,559
Speaker 2: I'm not sure how to handle this, but I'm feeling

2458
01:50:38,600 --> 01:50:41,960
Speaker 2: happiness after a Bill's playoff game, and I haven't felt

2459
01:50:41,960 --> 01:50:45,439
Speaker 2: this since nineteen ninety three. My takeaway, Lamar had a

2460
01:50:45,439 --> 01:50:48,799
Speaker 2: few turnovers, but he played very well. Anyone who blames

2461
01:50:48,840 --> 01:50:51,640
Speaker 2: in is just looking to continue a narrative. W's and

2462
01:50:51,880 --> 01:50:54,040
Speaker 2: l's is not a quarterback stat.

2463
01:50:55,360 --> 01:50:58,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, but we do put it on quarterbacks. There's no

2464
01:50:58,160 --> 01:51:00,479
Speaker 3: way fans and what's about that? It's not like making

2465
01:51:00,479 --> 01:51:02,639
Speaker 3: that up every You live and die by the quarterback.

2466
01:51:02,680 --> 01:51:04,160
Speaker 3: That's why they get all that type of money.

2467
01:51:04,600 --> 01:51:09,120
Speaker 2: M U see Le Dodger Frank Roman Numeral fourteen too much,

2468
01:51:10,040 --> 01:51:13,320
Speaker 2: the much too early. Which team next season has the

2469
01:51:13,360 --> 01:51:15,760
Speaker 2: best chance of being the next Washington Commanders?

2470
01:51:16,479 --> 01:51:17,240
Speaker 1: Oh? I like that.

2471
01:51:19,240 --> 01:51:22,759
Speaker 3: I was about to say the Chicago Bears.

2472
01:51:23,280 --> 01:51:25,639
Speaker 1: No, but I mean the Bears we.

2473
01:51:25,600 --> 01:51:28,200
Speaker 3: Said that this year. Yeah, Well, let's just go with

2474
01:51:28,240 --> 01:51:29,759
Speaker 3: the Dolphins. Then, how about that.

2475
01:51:30,040 --> 01:51:32,720
Speaker 2: Well, the Dolphins were in the playoff mix this year.

2476
01:51:32,760 --> 01:51:35,479
Speaker 2: I mean the Washington pick second in the draft last year.

2477
01:51:35,560 --> 01:51:38,879
Speaker 2: How about this one, New England. I think the Patriots

2478
01:51:38,920 --> 01:51:40,680
Speaker 2: are gonna be really good next year. Now Drake may

2479
01:51:40,800 --> 01:51:43,559
Speaker 2: is gonna be better. Uh, they got Vrabel in there.

2480
01:51:43,720 --> 01:51:46,000
Speaker 2: They got a chance to get a play maker at

2481
01:51:46,040 --> 01:51:49,160
Speaker 2: either edge rusher or maybe corner with Travis Hunter or

2482
01:51:49,160 --> 01:51:51,160
Speaker 2: Abdukrarner in the draft. I think they're gonna be pretty

2483
01:51:51,160 --> 01:51:53,160
Speaker 2: good next year. I think you're in trouble, Arnie. In

2484
01:51:53,240 --> 01:51:57,000
Speaker 2: the AFC East. Congratulations on getting like the playoffs and

2485
01:51:57,040 --> 01:51:59,880
Speaker 2: getting close to a win, But I think you're in

2486
01:51:59,880 --> 01:52:01,960
Speaker 2: an uphill climb. You might be the fourth best team

2487
01:52:02,040 --> 01:52:07,920
Speaker 2: roster wise going in the next year. I am a writer,

2488
01:52:08,320 --> 01:52:11,400
Speaker 2: Rob Jay Wrights. Aarnie, I'm gonna use a word with

2489
01:52:11,439 --> 01:52:15,120
Speaker 2: which you are familiar. How about this stinking officiating in

2490
01:52:15,160 --> 01:52:17,880
Speaker 2: the Texans Chiefs game. Now we have a variety of

2491
01:52:17,920 --> 01:52:22,240
Speaker 2: these in many different way, shape or form. Colin Wright's

2492
01:52:22,280 --> 01:52:24,320
Speaker 2: probably good to spend some time talking about the pro

2493
01:52:24,479 --> 01:52:27,280
Speaker 2: casey officiating so we can all get it out of

2494
01:52:27,320 --> 01:52:30,759
Speaker 2: our system. And then our buddy Tennis Data writes another

2495
01:52:30,880 --> 01:52:34,599
Speaker 2: vote for credibility issues with the officiating in the KC game.

2496
01:52:35,080 --> 01:52:37,720
Speaker 2: Although the NFL wants to get swifties to watch the

2497
01:52:37,760 --> 01:52:41,439
Speaker 2: boost ratings, but this is ridiculous. Mahomes should wear six

2498
01:52:41,520 --> 01:52:44,040
Speaker 2: in honor of his flopping idol Lebron.

2499
01:52:43,800 --> 01:52:47,840
Speaker 3: James the referee or though whoever.

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01:52:47,600 --> 01:52:49,479
Speaker 2: The head of the wind judge is Clay Martin, one

2501
01:52:49,479 --> 01:52:52,280
Speaker 2: of my buddies, by the way, true story was, what

2502
01:52:52,439 --> 01:52:54,920
Speaker 2: was the Chiefs have never lost the game? They're six

2503
01:52:55,000 --> 01:52:56,720
Speaker 2: and oh whenever he's a referee six and oh or

2504
01:52:56,800 --> 01:52:58,599
Speaker 2: seven and oh. He's an Oklahoma guy who we went

2505
01:52:58,600 --> 01:52:59,439
Speaker 2: to the same college.

2506
01:53:00,080 --> 01:53:01,720
Speaker 3: No, that's pretty damn good, isn't it.

2507
01:53:03,560 --> 01:53:05,360
Speaker 2: I can't confirm or deny whether or not he was

2508
01:53:05,400 --> 01:53:07,880
Speaker 2: a Chiefs fan, but Clay's a stand up guy.

2509
01:53:07,960 --> 01:53:12,880
Speaker 3: I mean, got a Chiefs tattoo on his butting every day.

2510
01:53:13,040 --> 01:53:15,639
Speaker 2: Dophins, Hey, by the way, shout out to our buddy

2511
01:53:15,680 --> 01:53:17,760
Speaker 2: Laura who is always checking it up in the up

2512
01:53:17,800 --> 01:53:20,000
Speaker 2: in the New England area. And then there's Joe Judges

2513
01:53:20,120 --> 01:53:25,480
Speaker 2: Burner who writes the NFL putting on ex ref shills

2514
01:53:26,000 --> 01:53:29,320
Speaker 2: to spew nonsense and tell us our eyes don't work

2515
01:53:29,840 --> 01:53:32,280
Speaker 2: what we saw yesterday, And the Chiefs fan, by those

2516
01:53:32,520 --> 01:53:35,720
Speaker 2: in the Chiefs game, by those officials, should be investigated

2517
01:53:35,760 --> 01:53:39,760
Speaker 2: at the highest quarter. Every family member, every friend of

2518
01:53:39,800 --> 01:53:43,720
Speaker 2: that Cruise fan duel draft Kings account needs to be investigating.

2519
01:53:43,760 --> 01:53:45,800
Speaker 3: But we see it in slow mo. You don't get

2520
01:53:45,840 --> 01:53:50,439
Speaker 3: to go ahead and review the hit on the quarterback

2521
01:53:50,479 --> 01:53:51,439
Speaker 3: to you, that's not a review.

2522
01:53:51,520 --> 01:53:53,800
Speaker 1: No, not not in the pros. Not right right?

2523
01:53:55,120 --> 01:53:57,439
Speaker 2: Oh, then one more here, one more here for mister nobody,

2524
01:53:57,880 --> 01:54:02,720
Speaker 2: because officiating is a key to If the officiating the

2525
01:54:02,720 --> 01:54:05,240
Speaker 2: Bills game had been the same in the Houston Kansas

2526
01:54:05,240 --> 01:54:09,080
Speaker 2: City game yesterday, the Bills would be facing Houston next week.

2527
01:54:09,760 --> 01:54:14,080
Speaker 2: Detroit's defense, injuries or note, was mediocre to bat all year,

2528
01:54:14,439 --> 01:54:17,320
Speaker 2: gave up thirty points to San fran forty five.

2529
01:54:17,400 --> 01:54:19,759
Speaker 1: The Buffalo I'm not really shocked day lost.

2530
01:54:19,880 --> 01:54:22,320
Speaker 3: So he thought that the Texans would have won that

2531
01:54:22,360 --> 01:54:25,200
Speaker 3: game against Kansas City if the officials didn't give the

2532
01:54:25,600 --> 01:54:26,439
Speaker 3: Chiefs the calls.

2533
01:54:26,600 --> 01:54:29,040
Speaker 1: That's that's what I took from that tweet. That's what

2534
01:54:29,080 --> 01:54:29,760
Speaker 1: I took from it.

2535
01:54:30,240 --> 01:54:33,800
Speaker 3: They did one of the calls did lead to was

2536
01:54:33,840 --> 01:54:35,840
Speaker 3: it seven or three they've got? I mean a couple

2537
01:54:35,840 --> 01:54:37,800
Speaker 3: of the calls led to six points? I believe six

2538
01:54:37,920 --> 01:54:39,200
Speaker 3: or ten? I'm not sure that.

2539
01:54:39,560 --> 01:54:42,839
Speaker 2: Well, the didn't the call and Anderson leading their first touchdown?

2540
01:54:44,200 --> 01:54:46,360
Speaker 2: The refing the passer called? Didn't that lead to their

2541
01:54:46,400 --> 01:54:47,120
Speaker 2: their touchdown?

2542
01:54:47,200 --> 01:54:47,440
Speaker 1: Drive?

2543
01:54:47,680 --> 01:54:48,960
Speaker 3: Thought led to a field goal? Oh?

2544
01:54:49,040 --> 01:54:51,040
Speaker 1: Was it just a field goal? Well, I mean it's points.

2545
01:54:51,240 --> 01:54:54,320
Speaker 3: You know, I'm not argue with you. Yeah, absolutely all right.

2546
01:54:54,400 --> 01:54:56,680
Speaker 2: When we come back, it's time for Arnie's Picks to

2547
01:54:56,680 --> 01:54:58,480
Speaker 2: put a rap on this edition of Arnie and Plank

2548
01:54:58,640 --> 01:55:02,760
Speaker 2: Fox Sports Radio. Barely talk to you tonight, Mary Mack.

2549
01:55:02,840 --> 01:55:05,520
Speaker 2: I'm sorry, I've been running around like crazy here, okay,

2550
01:55:05,800 --> 01:55:08,760
Speaker 2: but great job. Barely well, and then Patrick and I

2551
01:55:08,760 --> 01:55:11,600
Speaker 2: have been fixing all the haters in baseball with the

2552
01:55:11,600 --> 01:55:14,000
Speaker 2: Dodgers big signings. So great job by Mary Mick and

2553
01:55:14,040 --> 01:55:17,600
Speaker 2: our producer Patrick sweeka disager on updates and in fact,

2554
01:55:17,760 --> 01:55:20,800
Speaker 2: you know, we had so many tweets and I guess

2555
01:55:21,040 --> 01:55:24,200
Speaker 2: x submissions tonight. We hardly got to all of them.

2556
01:55:24,440 --> 01:55:26,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, we didn't get to nearly enough.

2557
01:55:26,160 --> 01:55:28,640
Speaker 2: But that also meant I didn't get to any of

2558
01:55:28,640 --> 01:55:31,760
Speaker 2: the audio. But great job by our crew behind the

2559
01:55:31,760 --> 01:55:34,240
Speaker 2: scenes mixing together the audio and all the post game

2560
01:55:34,320 --> 01:55:36,480
Speaker 2: sound leaving anyone out.

2561
01:55:37,600 --> 01:55:40,040
Speaker 3: We gotta think I didn't even know our we had

2562
01:55:40,040 --> 01:55:41,120
Speaker 3: a producer.

2563
01:55:41,240 --> 01:55:45,000
Speaker 2: Same bit, every single Sunday night, same bit. Really Yeah,

2564
01:55:45,120 --> 01:55:46,880
Speaker 2: great job by everyone involved.

2565
01:55:46,880 --> 01:55:47,280
Speaker 1: Don't forget.

2566
01:55:47,320 --> 01:55:49,200
Speaker 2: You can find the podcast as soon as we're done.

2567
01:55:49,280 --> 01:55:52,280
Speaker 2: Search Fox Sports Radio and you'll see it right there

2568
01:55:52,320 --> 01:55:55,360
Speaker 2: with the weekend. So what do you say. Apparently he's

2569
01:55:55,440 --> 01:55:58,400
Speaker 2: changed the economy in Vermont. You have a right, so

2570
01:55:58,480 --> 01:56:01,080
Speaker 2: take it away, stinking genius. What you got, let's do it.

2571
01:56:01,600 --> 01:56:04,160
Speaker 3: You know, I'm afraid they're gonna kick me out of

2572
01:56:04,240 --> 01:56:07,000
Speaker 3: Vermont if I still make everybody so much money, right,

2573
01:56:07,080 --> 01:56:08,600
Speaker 3: because say, get the heck out of here. But you

2574
01:56:08,640 --> 01:56:11,320
Speaker 3: know what, they can listen to me anywhere and take

2575
01:56:11,360 --> 01:56:14,480
Speaker 3: my picks. It's a short, short picks today. I only

2576
01:56:14,520 --> 01:56:19,080
Speaker 3: got three of them. Chris Championship Game today, tomorrow, whatever

2577
01:56:19,640 --> 01:56:23,200
Speaker 3: you live on that Monday night, I'm taking Ohio State.

2578
01:56:23,840 --> 01:56:25,960
Speaker 3: I'm gonna lay the eight and a half points. I

2579
01:56:26,000 --> 01:56:29,520
Speaker 3: think Ohio State is the class act here. No tre

2580
01:56:29,520 --> 01:56:31,920
Speaker 3: They will do it's best to keep it close, but

2581
01:56:31,960 --> 01:56:34,440
Speaker 3: by the end it'll be like a fourteen point victory.

2582
01:56:34,880 --> 01:56:39,600
Speaker 3: Ohio State wins it forty one twenty seven, So I

2583
01:56:39,640 --> 01:56:41,880
Speaker 3: mean to take the over forty five and a half

2584
01:56:41,920 --> 01:56:44,640
Speaker 3: in that game. Also, might as well jump on the

2585
01:56:44,680 --> 01:56:48,560
Speaker 3: AFC and NFC Championship games next week. I love me

2586
01:56:48,680 --> 01:56:54,840
Speaker 3: some Buffalo Bills, Chris My Bills, Baby. I think they're

2587
01:56:54,840 --> 01:56:56,280
Speaker 3: gonna win the Super Bowl this year. I think this

2588
01:56:56,320 --> 01:57:00,480
Speaker 3: is their year. Love them against the Kansas City Chiefs.

2589
01:57:01,000 --> 01:57:05,320
Speaker 3: Kansas City does not scare me at all. Buffalo played

2590
01:57:05,360 --> 01:57:09,520
Speaker 3: the better game today. They'd beat a good team. They

2591
01:57:09,560 --> 01:57:11,840
Speaker 3: play like that against Kansas City, they'll be able to

2592
01:57:11,840 --> 01:57:15,280
Speaker 3: beat them. I like the Bills twenty seven twenty four

2593
01:57:15,320 --> 01:57:18,840
Speaker 3: over Kansas City. And how about this, You said I

2594
01:57:18,880 --> 01:57:22,600
Speaker 3: didn't pick Washington against Detroit. Well you're not gonna say

2595
01:57:22,600 --> 01:57:28,480
Speaker 3: that again because I'm picking Washington against Philadelphia thirty seven

2596
01:57:29,440 --> 01:57:35,080
Speaker 3: thirty four. We're going to Washington to pull off the upset.

2597
01:57:35,320 --> 01:57:37,480
Speaker 3: Se means we're gonna have a Super Bowl of Buffalo

2598
01:57:38,320 --> 01:57:41,320
Speaker 3: and Washington. So there you have my picks. Do with

2599
01:57:41,320 --> 01:57:46,080
Speaker 3: the mission please no longer strictly fred entertainment purposes. Only

2600
01:57:46,120 --> 01:57:46,920
Speaker 3: my friend didn't.

2601
01:57:46,920 --> 01:57:49,160
Speaker 2: Didn't someone just bring that up last segment on the

2602
01:57:49,200 --> 01:57:51,400
Speaker 2: text and you're like, yes they did, and you said, yeah,

2603
01:57:51,440 --> 01:57:52,200
Speaker 2: that ain't happening.

2604
01:57:52,320 --> 01:57:53,360
Speaker 1: Did you change your mind?

2605
01:57:53,520 --> 01:57:55,640
Speaker 3: I kind of. I didn't say it wasn't gonna happen.

2606
01:57:55,760 --> 01:57:57,360
Speaker 3: I just didn't think it was gonna happen.

2607
01:57:57,400 --> 01:58:02,560
Speaker 2: But oh, how about this stat from Benjamin Slik at ESPN.

2608
01:58:03,200 --> 01:58:06,720
Speaker 2: He said, the Texans became the first team yesterday Saturday

2609
01:58:07,360 --> 01:58:10,839
Speaker 2: to outgain their opponent by one hundred or more yards,

2610
01:58:11,600 --> 01:58:15,560
Speaker 2: not turn the ball over, Arnie, and lose a postseason game.

2611
01:58:15,600 --> 01:58:18,760
Speaker 2: So get that's all the losing teams outgained the winning

2612
01:58:18,840 --> 01:58:22,440
Speaker 2: teams this weekend in total yardage. The Texans were the

2613
01:58:22,480 --> 01:58:25,000
Speaker 2: first team to not only outgain their opponents, but do

2614
01:58:25,080 --> 01:58:28,240
Speaker 2: it by one hundred or more yards and not turn

2615
01:58:28,280 --> 01:58:33,240
Speaker 2: the football over and lose a postseason game. Previous such

2616
01:58:33,480 --> 01:58:37,720
Speaker 2: teams were forty nine and oh in the playoffs.

2617
01:58:37,800 --> 01:58:40,880
Speaker 3: When you're fighting the referees and stuff to do, stuff

2618
01:58:40,880 --> 01:58:41,320
Speaker 3: to do there.

2619
01:58:41,440 --> 01:58:45,680
Speaker 2: Chris and the Chiefs were called for six penalties, six

2620
01:58:45,720 --> 01:58:47,720
Speaker 2: to seven penalties, and the Chiefs were only called for

2621
01:58:47,840 --> 01:58:48,800
Speaker 2: one at.

2622
01:58:48,720 --> 01:58:49,720
Speaker 1: One point in the game.

2623
01:58:50,160 --> 01:58:52,280
Speaker 2: I saw that, all right, couple of your thoughts before

2624
01:58:52,280 --> 01:58:54,640
Speaker 2: we get out.

2625
01:58:54,920 --> 01:58:57,080
Speaker 1: I'm a rotter, Rob, I'm a writer, Rob Jay.

2626
01:58:57,120 --> 01:58:59,800
Speaker 2: We're talking if hey, you think the Chiefs were unafeeded

2627
01:58:59,840 --> 01:59:02,760
Speaker 2: with the play their starters in the final week, He writes,

2628
01:59:02,800 --> 01:59:05,120
Speaker 2: the unfeetd pass play their starters every game, including their

2629
01:59:05,200 --> 01:59:08,640
Speaker 2: last regular season game against the Giants with they won,

2630
01:59:08,800 --> 01:59:11,440
Speaker 2: which they won and then thankfully turned around and lost

2631
01:59:11,480 --> 01:59:12,360
Speaker 2: to him in the Super Bowl.

2632
01:59:13,680 --> 01:59:14,080
Speaker 1: Jason B.

2633
01:59:14,200 --> 01:59:17,040
Speaker 2: Diamond Lamar Jackson, Lamar Jackson was good enough to win

2634
01:59:17,080 --> 01:59:19,560
Speaker 2: the game today. If Mark Andrews doesn't turn the ball

2635
01:59:19,600 --> 01:59:22,760
Speaker 2: over and drop a wide open pass our buddy.

2636
01:59:22,640 --> 01:59:25,640
Speaker 3: War fumball, and he doesn't throw an interception, they win

2637
01:59:25,720 --> 01:59:25,960
Speaker 3: the game.

2638
01:59:26,280 --> 01:59:29,800
Speaker 2: Warren Wrights, the two point conversion is this snake bite

2639
01:59:29,800 --> 01:59:34,240
Speaker 2: that poisons teams a game end at game's end, You're

2640
01:59:34,320 --> 01:59:36,360
Speaker 2: right every single time you're like, oh we need two

2641
01:59:36,360 --> 01:59:39,000
Speaker 2: point conversion, you can never have your best play. And

2642
01:59:39,040 --> 01:59:42,280
Speaker 2: then Colin writes, after the divisional round, I know this.

2643
01:59:42,800 --> 01:59:45,600
Speaker 2: Coaches need to stop trying for two points. Until the

2644
01:59:45,600 --> 01:59:48,880
Speaker 2: fourth quarter, the Ravens were zero and two. Had they

2645
01:59:49,000 --> 01:59:52,200
Speaker 2: gone for one they would have tied it. Yeah, they

2646
01:59:52,720 --> 01:59:55,200
Speaker 2: tried to do it twice, those analytics man. All right,

2647
01:59:55,280 --> 01:59:57,680
Speaker 2: enjoy the National Championship game tonight, Arenie, talk to the

2648
01:59:57,840 --> 01:59:58,440
Speaker 2: Monday Night Man.

2649
01:59:58,480 --> 02:00:01,880
Speaker 1: Have a great week. Big Ben Now is coming up next.

2650
02:00:01,880 --> 02:00:04,720
Speaker 2: Don't forget to check out the podcast or spots Sports Radio,

2651
02:00:04,920 --> 02:00:06,360
Speaker 2: however you consume podcasts.

2652
02:00:06,400 --> 02:00:07,280
Speaker 1: See you next Sunday,