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Speaker 1: Welcome to Huddle Up, brought you by the Fields Total

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Speaker 1: Group Jackuar. Senior writer John Osher, NFL Network analyst and

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Speaker 1: former Jaguar Bucky Brooks and Senior reporter JP Shatterick bring

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Speaker 1: you the latest go on your Jacksonville Jackuars.

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Speaker 2: Huddle Up starts.

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Speaker 3: Right now and welcome in Huddle Up with Bucky Brooks,

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Speaker 3: Studios inside the Busy Miller Electric Center.

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Speaker 2: Bucky Brooks normally in Los Angeles.

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Speaker 3: He is on location today in New Orleans, Louisiana, ahead

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Speaker 3: of the HBCU Legacy Bowl coming up this Saturday.

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Speaker 2: Bucky House, New Orleans.

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Speaker 4: Uh NOLA is great the game band Mardi Gras while

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Speaker 4: also hosting the HBCU Legacy Bowl. So it's a lot

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Speaker 4: of fun, a lot of festive people running around, a

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Speaker 4: lot of festevings about to take.

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Speaker 2: Plus, are you like going to parades and stuff at night?

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Speaker 3: What do you?

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Speaker 2: What's the deal?

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Speaker 5: Not yet, but I'm getting ready for it.

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Speaker 6: I want to make sure that I have enough energy

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Speaker 6: left to sample some king Cake and maybe take in

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Speaker 6: some of the activities a little later.

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Speaker 5: You know what I mean.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I know what you mean.

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Speaker 7: Bucky's big Bourbon Street. Yeah yeah, probably late nights, all right.

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Speaker 5: I mean.

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Speaker 3: In Rome, the Romans, there's a thin line between Saturday

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Speaker 3: night and Sunday morning.

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Speaker 2: Okay, get ready.

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Speaker 7: I mean you've got some bourbon streets.

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Speaker 2: I might have one or two. You sold one the

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Speaker 2: other day of the ozone. You said you woke up

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Speaker 2: under a buick.

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Speaker 8: And I said, if you're not careful, you you potentially

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Speaker 8: can wake up.

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Speaker 2: It sounds like there's a story.

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Speaker 7: Thereat that you mentioned.

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Speaker 6: Means that you absolutely have had a story. I don't

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Speaker 6: even know if they make city.

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Speaker 7: I've had some. I've had some New Orleans moments that

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Speaker 7: I'm not proud of.

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Speaker 2: I think we all have when in Rome. Like you said, Bucky,

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Speaker 2: I'm plenty to get to you today.

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Speaker 3: Of course, GM interviews, the final interviews in person are

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Speaker 3: underway as we speak. Two on Wednesday on the schedule,

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Speaker 3: two on Thursday on the schedule, one on Friday, four

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Speaker 3: hour windows for each of the interviews, and hopefully decision

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Speaker 3: by Friday.

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Speaker 2: Have an offer and maybe a GM in place by

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Speaker 2: the weekend. That's the feel here.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, I would expect, you know, the process to go

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Speaker 8: smoothly this week and then quickly as the weekends. I'm

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Speaker 8: sure they have in mind. I would guess by Thursday night,

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Speaker 8: you know, I would guess they have in mind who

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Speaker 8: they like out of those four candidates, and they have

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Speaker 8: one more to do on that Friday. And I don't

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Speaker 8: think the process will take very long quick I mean,

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Speaker 8: but this from your experience in sort of being.

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Speaker 7: Around these.

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Speaker 8: How long does it take in this process? Okay, you're

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Speaker 8: putting your heads together, and then is it realistic to

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Speaker 8: have an interview Friday morning and then sort of nailing

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Speaker 8: this thing by Friday afternoon? Can it get done that fast?

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Speaker 6: I think you can, because I think you've already had

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Speaker 6: a preliminary So when you go in, you're asking very

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Speaker 6: specific questions to the candidates, and you're trying to see

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Speaker 6: if their vision for building a team matches the vision

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Speaker 6: of the head coach and even Tony.

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Speaker 5: Bacelli's vision as the executive vice president.

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Speaker 6: You want to make sure that everyone is in lockstep

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Speaker 6: and the team building process, they're in lockstep when it

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Speaker 6: comes to the type of players that you want on

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Speaker 6: them to explain their procedures in terms of how do

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Speaker 5: How do you put it all together?

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Speaker 6: What do we do if we have disagreements in terms

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Speaker 6: the guy that you're bringing in, if they can play

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Speaker 6: nice in the sandbox when we have these dec agreements

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Speaker 6: that eventually happened.

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Speaker 3: All right, guys, let's go through the five finalists for

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Speaker 3: the Jaguars GM job, and let's start.

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Speaker 2: In alphabetical order. That seems like a fair way to

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Speaker 3: Ian Cunningham Bear's assistant general managers with the Ravens from

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Speaker 3: eight to sixteen, Eagles seventeen to twenty one.

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Speaker 2: Now with Chicago. We've seen his name over the last

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Speaker 2: few weeks. Bucky, what stands out? What do you know

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Speaker 5: Well, he does come.

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Speaker 6: Where regarded does a lot of people that have been

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Speaker 5: I would say he's out. Look, all these guys gonna

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Speaker 6: But I would say that his communications, his pedigree, all

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Speaker 6: those things stand out. He's been up for such a

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Speaker 6: popular candidate, despite being in a couple of days Testy

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Speaker 6: in Chicago, respectively.

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Speaker 5: I think up from him he is.

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Speaker 6: How different are his team building news from Ryan Poles?

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Speaker 6: What would he look at when it comes to this

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Speaker 6: to get this team up and going. I think you're

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Speaker 6: looking at that will also making sure that his personality

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Speaker 8: All Right, I have a question for Bucky the analyst here,

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Speaker 8: and look, I'm gonna be honest with you. Any of

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Speaker 8: the five I don't I don't know enough about the

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Speaker 8: five two sit here and say which one I like better?

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Speaker 8: And you know, I guess I would lean towards the

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Speaker 8: question I get from fans.

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Speaker 7: How do they know? Bucky?

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Speaker 8: I mean, you the in Cunningham the Bears haven't been great.

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Speaker 8: I always believe that owners usually spend way too much

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Speaker 8: high success organizations, because that doesn't always translate. But you

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Speaker 8: got to find something right, So how are fans supposed

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Speaker 8: to know if these guys are the right guys? Do

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Speaker 8: you follow what I'm getting at? Because it's so hard

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Speaker 6: That understand what you're getting at, And some of the

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Speaker 6: same questions that I always have. When you look at

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Speaker 6: Ian Cunningham's resume and the teams that he's been affiliated with,

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Speaker 6: there hasn't been a lot of sustained success when it

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Speaker 5: So what is it about him that makes him pop?

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Speaker 6: And he'll have to dazzle in interviews in my estimation,

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Speaker 6: because it's one thing to deal and there is another

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Speaker 6: the roster. Right now, he would have to be more

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Speaker 6: because the resume.

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Speaker 5: Doesn't suggest that he's going to say with a lot.

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Speaker 6: Of winning when it comes to his road in building

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Speaker 6: a team continue with the Chicago Bears.

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Speaker 8: Now, I will say this, JP, I'm not when I

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Speaker 8: asked that question. I'm not saying that makes Ian kind

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Speaker 8: of am a bad candidate at all. I mean, because

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Speaker 8: everything I've heard is the same as bucket. This guy

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Speaker 8: is sharp and knows what he's doing.

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Speaker 2: I didn't.

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Speaker 7: I guess is the part of it Johnt.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, it's a part of it. Like it has to

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Speaker 5: be a part of the thing, because.

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Speaker 6: Like ultimately, like when we talked about hiring people for roles,

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Speaker 6: you're trying to look for things that qualify them for

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Speaker 6: the next step up right, And it's easy to look

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Speaker 6: at someone that comes from a winning organization and be like, Okay,

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Speaker 6: he's ready because he's.

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Speaker 5: Been a part of helping.

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Speaker 6: A team have a love of success. But when they

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Speaker 6: haven't had success. Now you're trying to figure out what's

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Speaker 6: the magic bullet that separates him from the other guys.

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Speaker 5: It's hard.

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Speaker 6: And so that's one where if he is the choice,

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Speaker 6: you have to trust ownership and the people that interviewed

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Speaker 6: him that he was able to convey something that is

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Speaker 6: going to translate and sex that we just haven't seen teams.

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Speaker 8: That guy who's been around that success. Maybe he was

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Speaker 7: Maybe this guy just came out.

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Speaker 8: So that's the challenge I mean, and that's why so

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Speaker 8: many of these hires over time, you just don't know it's.

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Speaker 5: It's a crap shoot.

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Speaker 6: It's the same thing like when we talked about the unknowns,

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Speaker 6: Like no one knew that Brad Holmes and the Dan

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Speaker 5: But what you could point to with Brad Holmes, he

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Speaker 6: The Rams are gone to a super Bowl, maybe they're

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Speaker 6: and they were able to win, So now you're like, Okay, well,

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Speaker 6: at least he's seen what it looks like when is successful.

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Speaker 6: You would like to have a blueprint or a model

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Speaker 6: replicate it exactly, but certainly I understand what it.

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Speaker 5: Looks like, what it feels like to be a part

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Speaker 5: of a championship. Pedicant Championship.

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Speaker 3: Next on our list, speaking of the Rams, James Gladstone,

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Speaker 3: Director scouting in LA. Eight seasons of the Rams. You've

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Speaker 3: just mentioned the success they've had in LA. Anything stand

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Speaker 6: Well, the thing that would naturally stand out is that

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Speaker 6: there would be a relationship and in terms of Liam

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Speaker 6: when you talk about replicating the system, if Liam co

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Speaker 6: gone through their process in terms of how the GM

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Speaker 6: Sometimes it's easy to bring someone from an environment that's

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Speaker 6: and how things should look because you've you've seen it

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Speaker 6: and you want to replicate it at a different environment.

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Speaker 6: I would say this though, that you know, let's need

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Speaker 6: and Sean McVay and even Ray Farmer to a less degree,

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Speaker 6: they they've run the like that's how they've done it.

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Speaker 6: Sean McVay such a wonder boy when it comes to

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Speaker 6: not only his coaching, but it's scouting ecumen, his culture

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Speaker 6: building ability that it made the job really easy for

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Speaker 6: less Sneed. What was Gladstone's rolling at how any contribute?

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Speaker 6: Is he ready for that promotion from director of Scouting

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Speaker 6: to now being the GM. All of that has to

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Speaker 6: be talked about when it comes to the interview. How

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Speaker 6: are you going to handle this? What are the scenarios

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Speaker 6: and situations that you're prepared for. What do those answers

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Speaker 6: sound like, and how do they resonate with Tony and

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Speaker 6: Riem and everyone else.

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Speaker 5: Who's in the room.

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Speaker 6: That's what it comes down to, because he has to

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Speaker 8: Yeah, Liam clearly likes the Rams culture. That doesn't mean

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Speaker 8: you have to have James Gladstone to recreate that, but

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Speaker 8: it certainly means that Gladstone has seen that, and when

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Speaker 6: Absolutely can do it successfully in a small market like Jacksonville.

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Speaker 7: I know these guys are all football guys.

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Speaker 8: JP it wouldn't be here, But if you're Jerry Sullivan's son,

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Speaker 7: Thank you, good guy.

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Speaker 3: Absolutely, the Jags have heard a new head coach, the

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Speaker 3: up with Bucky Brooks, JP, Shadwick, John Osier, and yes,

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Speaker 5: And I think it's a legitimate chance to get the job.

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Speaker 6: I would say when you make a decision on Ethan,

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Speaker 5: But I think you have to.

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Speaker 8: You know, he's Balky's guy, et cetera, et cetera. You've

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Speaker 5: Changes do you make below the general manager?

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Speaker 5: All of those things have to be discussed when you're trying.

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Speaker 3: Josh Williams, speaking of forty nine Ers connections, been there

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Speaker 6: Look man, it's been a winning product, right, It's been

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Speaker 5: That's it. How big of a part has he been

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Speaker 8: And at some point, Bucky, you know, if you were

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Speaker 6: I really think it depends on how the role is

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Speaker 6: Hey man, you're just a top scout, meaning you're in

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Speaker 5: But that's just your role.

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Speaker 5: scary part.

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Speaker 6: Of like if you go all newness right where you

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Speaker 6: have first year head coach, first time general manager, first

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Speaker 6: time EVP, and Tony like everyone is kind of learning

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Speaker 6: on the fly. I would say Ethan's experience is just

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Speaker 6: kind of be an assistant GM for a while. He's

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Speaker 6: the one that is closest to being maybe ready to

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Speaker 6: naturally take that next step.

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Speaker 5: John Eric would be with a VP. He and he

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Speaker 5: and they have kind of been close to the thing.

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Speaker 6: Ultimately, man, it's how Shot Khan defines the role on

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Speaker 6: how they want to position that trio at the top

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Speaker 6: that ultimately determined which one is the best candidate for

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Speaker 6: the job. Because if it's a football scout as opposed

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Speaker 6: to running the entire thing, it's a different different sea. Yeah,

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Speaker 6: it's a different set of roles and responsibilities because he's

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Speaker 6: not the face of the franchise. He's a guy that

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Speaker 6: is kind of languishing in the shadows doing this thing,

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Speaker 6: but it's not his team per se. He's part of

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Speaker 6: a collaborative effort between head coach general manager EVP.

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Speaker 5: And the way that it was described when they hired Tony.

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Speaker 6: That's kind of how they want it, like three branches

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Speaker 6: of government making sure that there's a sufficient checks and

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Speaker 6: balances to make sure that they get it right in

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Speaker 6: the end.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, if it's coach centric JP, which has been the

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Speaker 8: buzzword that I shouldn't say buzzword, that's been how Shod

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Speaker 8: Cohn has described this really since Urban Meyer. I mean,

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Speaker 8: that's what he visions for the franchise is a coach

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Speaker 8: centric organization. It's what Tony talked about, supporting Liam Cohnes's vision,

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Speaker 8: William Cones's vision for this franchise. So I think that,

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Speaker 8: you know, I think Bucky hit on something. That's that's

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Speaker 8: the spirit of this thing from by the way I understand.

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Speaker 5: These and so and thinking about that, like like JP,

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Speaker 5: you mean you cuts through off. But in thinking about that, like.

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Speaker 6: If that role is that it also requires the right

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Speaker 6: personality type to be in that role. See because that

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Speaker 6: role is one where you're a little more deferential to

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Speaker 6: the head coach.

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Speaker 5: So that means low ego involved. It can't necessarily be

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Speaker 5: a me me me guy. It has to be a.

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Speaker 6: We we we person that is about the team getting

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Speaker 6: it right as opposed to look at what the job

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Speaker 6: that I've done and building the team. So personality traits,

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Speaker 6: all those things, cooperative traits, all of those things may

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Speaker 6: matter more than just a football pology equation.

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Speaker 3: You know, every time I turn on NFL Network, now

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Speaker 3: it's Bunny Brooks season. It's like the bottom scroll is

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Speaker 3: like top five prospects in every position. It's it's mock

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Speaker 3: draft season. This is like, this is Bucky Brook's season

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Speaker 3: each and every year.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, it's time.

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Speaker 6: It's time. I'm jp t go time, time to be

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Speaker 6: able to talk about prospects. It's time to get it

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Speaker 6: ready for the draft. And I'm really excited about it.

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Speaker 6: And I'm excited as really listen.

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Speaker 5: To the Jaguars.

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Speaker 6: You have a top five pick, you have an opportunity

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Speaker 6: to really get some difference makers at the top of

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Speaker 6: the boards. So as we're talking about G Kennedy, it

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Speaker 6: is the perfect time also trying and figure.

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Speaker 5: Out what we need to do to help this team

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Speaker 5: get back to the top.

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Speaker 8: Bucky, tell me about you know they're gonna hire a

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Speaker 8: gim I think probably Friday, Saturday, Sunday ish there. Right,

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Speaker 8: there's plenty of time. I've got a lot of questions

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Speaker 8: from fans. Oh they're waiting so long, this process has

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Speaker 8: taken too long, et cetera, et cetera. How much you

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Speaker 8: know behind the eight ball or whatever you call it

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Speaker 8: is the timing on it. What will be the first

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Speaker 8: step sort of take me through his months.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, you're behind the eight ball because, like you're talking

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Speaker 5: about hiring on.

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Speaker 6: The eve of the combine, and so some of the

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Speaker 6: things that you would like to have done by the

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Speaker 6: combine in terms of setting the draft board and preliminarily

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Speaker 6: getting all those things in order, you haven't done it.

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Speaker 5: And let's just say it's someone outside the building.

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Speaker 6: So let's just say if it doesn't get the job,

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Speaker 6: and it's one of the four candidates that are coming outside,

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Speaker 6: well now they have to come in and they have

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Speaker 6: to set the board in a different way because they

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Speaker 6: have used a different grading skill at their previous spot.

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Speaker 5: They may have a different set of rankings in terms

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Speaker 5: of the players that they saw. That changes everything.

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Speaker 6: And you're trying to get scouts who are used to

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Speaker 6: a different grading skill up to your skill so you

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Speaker 6: can talk the same language. So imagine going to Mexico

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Speaker 6: but not speaking Spanish, and now you're trying to get

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Speaker 6: everyone on the same page so we're bilingual.

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Speaker 5: Where you're doing that.

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Speaker 6: While also looking at players can currently and dealing with

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Speaker 6: free agency and all of that.

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Speaker 5: So it's a bit of a jumble.

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Speaker 6: But I will say this, regardless of the draft class

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Speaker 6: and free agent, it's more important to get the person

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Speaker 6: right and deal with it on the back end than

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Speaker 6: to just rush through the process and take someone that

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Speaker 6: is familiar that can help you maybe get through this

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Speaker 6: part with minimal damage.

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Speaker 2: Bucky, great stuff.

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Speaker 3: As always, enjoy New Orleans, and I'm sure you'll be

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Speaker 3: in bed at nine o'clock each and every night.

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Speaker 5: Well, my goal is to make sure that I stay

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Speaker 5: away from the buick. I'm trying.

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Speaker 6: I'm trying to make sure that I don't end up

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Speaker 6: inside of buick, under the buick, on top of a buick,

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Speaker 6: any of those things that John Osher may have experienced

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Speaker 6: when he had his new Woman's story.

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Speaker 7: Don't don't short change buicks.

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Speaker 2: Bucky will see you next week in Indy.

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Speaker 7: Appreciate it all right, better look forward to it all right,

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Speaker 7: man

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Speaker 3: Bucky Brooks, John Oser, I'm JP Shaddick or thanks to

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Speaker 3: Brent Reebert, Joe Fortunate Io, and thanks to you for

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Speaker 3: listening to huddle up with Bucky Brooks