WEBVTT - Mega June Q&A: Cheese Smuggling & Conference Switcheroos

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome to the solid verbal hull. That for me, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>a man, I'm forty.

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<v Speaker 2>I've heard so many players say, well, I want to

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<v Speaker 2>be happy.

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<v Speaker 1>You want to be happy for a day at a steak?

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<v Speaker 3>Is that?

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<v Speaker 1>Woo woof? And them and tie Welcome back to the

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<v Speaker 1>solid rubber boys and girls. My name is Ty hilde Brand.

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<v Speaker 1>That fine gentleman over there, the one and only Dan

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<v Speaker 1>Rubinstein now back in Chicago, Land, Dan, how are you? Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm good, I'm good.

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<v Speaker 3>I would recommend not flying with a three month old

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<v Speaker 3>and a two and a half year old. I think

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<v Speaker 3>that's super not fun.

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<v Speaker 1>You also, you also flew with like eight pounds of cheese.

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<v Speaker 1>What to explain? Yeah, it wasn't explain to me the

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<v Speaker 1>cheese thing. And like, did you have trouble getting through

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<v Speaker 1>security with that? Like, what's it like trying to put

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<v Speaker 1>that through the the scanner? Twelve pounds of cheese? Twelve

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<v Speaker 1>pounds of cheese? Uh, there was a brand of cheese

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<v Speaker 1>I was looking for that they didn't have in the Midwest,

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<v Speaker 1>even though it's a brand that I think is made

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<v Speaker 1>in the Midwest. But they had it at a restaurant

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<v Speaker 1>supply supply store on the West Coast, but they didn't

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<v Speaker 1>have it in.

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<v Speaker 3>The supply store I go to here. So I knew

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<v Speaker 3>I had a really light suitcase because a bulk of

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<v Speaker 3>the clothes and stuff where in Jody with and I.

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<v Speaker 3>Her suitcase had also the kids stuff. So I just

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<v Speaker 3>had mine in a little suitcase. It was like a

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<v Speaker 3>twelve pound suitcase and it's not overweight until like fifty

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<v Speaker 3>and it was a checked bag. And so I said,

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<v Speaker 3>you know what, I could throw a couple of those

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<v Speaker 3>blue ice things in there with the two blocks of cheese,

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<v Speaker 3>the two six pound blocks of cheese, and it's cold

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<v Speaker 3>underneath the plane. And I just said, look, if I

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<v Speaker 3>open my suitcase after the fact and there it's warm

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<v Speaker 3>blocks of cheese, I'll toss it. It's not a big deal.

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<v Speaker 1>It was not.

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<v Speaker 3>It didn't break the bank to buy this cheese. But

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<v Speaker 3>if they're cold still, it seems like a wind for

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<v Speaker 3>me who goes through a lot of cheese making pizza

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<v Speaker 3>at home. You're now officially a cheese runner. Yeah, a

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<v Speaker 3>coyote of dairy. Yeah that's me.

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<v Speaker 1>Have you used it yet in the pizza? No? Not yet.

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<v Speaker 3>I will this week. And this is a college football show.

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<v Speaker 3>This is a Q and a college football show that

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<v Speaker 3>I promise we're going to get to momentarily. I do

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<v Speaker 3>do do promise, but no, I have not used it yet.

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<v Speaker 3>Later in the week I'm going to make a couple

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<v Speaker 3>pies and see how it works out. I have to

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<v Speaker 3>be pretty strategic with my pizza making right now, with

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<v Speaker 3>two little ones and this and the Soliverable Universe and

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<v Speaker 3>future solivable projects occupying my time. So I'm very excited

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<v Speaker 3>to use the Supputo. I like Grande brand a lot,

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<v Speaker 3>but that's harder to get Supputo Premium Gold label pizza cheese. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>it's a slower melt tie, so you get the cheese

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<v Speaker 3>bubbling and browning at the same rate as your dough

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<v Speaker 3>and crust. So you're one of the weirdest people I

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<v Speaker 3>know for admitting this one you and I love you

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<v Speaker 3>for it.

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<v Speaker 1>I love it.

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<v Speaker 3>Just always embrace who you are and what you do.

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<v Speaker 3>There's no reason to do otherwise. It's it's the healthiest

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<v Speaker 3>thing to me.

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<v Speaker 1>There it is. Well, welcome back, everybody, Thank you for listening.

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<v Speaker 1>Two hours. So now what miniseriies that we ran throughout

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<v Speaker 1>the month of May. Last week was the final week.

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<v Speaker 1>Got a lot of great feedback. Got some feedback from

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<v Speaker 1>some folks who were like, you know what, let's screw

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<v Speaker 1>twenty twenty. I want to talk about twenty twenty one.

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<v Speaker 1>So we're going to start doing that now as we

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<v Speaker 1>go through your questions. We had a bunch of questions,

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<v Speaker 1>forward looking questions about the twenty twenty one season. Excited

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<v Speaker 1>to go through those with you, Daniel. One other thing,

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<v Speaker 1>One other housekeeping note that I'm just going to mention

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<v Speaker 1>quickly before we play the sound and get the questions.

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<v Speaker 1>You may recall a few weeks ago we were taking

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<v Speaker 1>had incredible outpouring of response to that request. There is

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<v Speaker 1>now another slot that we are able to open, and

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<v Speaker 1>that is for a social media intern. Social media is

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<v Speaker 3>Would love that, would love to hear from people interested.

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<v Speaker 3>There's not much in the way of news before we

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<v Speaker 3>get into the questions. As is the case, there have

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<v Speaker 3>been some transfers. I saw Sam Noyer, the Colorado starting

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<v Speaker 3>quarterback from last season, who was himself a converted safety.

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<v Speaker 3>The quarterback room in Boulder is particularly thin, so it'll

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<v Speaker 3>be JT. Shroud or it looks like Brendan Lewis, who

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<v Speaker 3>was a red shirt freshman I believe. I saw Nick

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<v Speaker 3>Saban got an extension for years and years, which makes sense,

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<v Speaker 3>and we got kind of a.

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<v Speaker 1>Rollover question about that, which maybe we did start with.

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<v Speaker 3>Nick Saban got an extension, So you know, there's more

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<v Speaker 3>transfers trickling in. I saw Keelan Robinson, a former blue

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<v Speaker 3>chip running back who I had committed, who has been

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<v Speaker 3>in the Alabama program, transferred to Texas to rejoin a

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<v Speaker 3>number of the staff members who made that move, including

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<v Speaker 3>obviously Sark and Kyle Flood, who is the offensive coordinator

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<v Speaker 3>quote unquote, but it's Sark running the show and he

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<v Speaker 3>will be running the offensive line. Flood will be so

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<v Speaker 3>not a ton in the way of big news. I've

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<v Speaker 3>saw that there are some we mentioned this a little bit,

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<v Speaker 3>some kickoff issues that the PAC twelve coaches are Coach

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<v Speaker 3>David Shaw, the Kansas State thing, it'll be we mentioned

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<v Speaker 3>that on a previous show, or actually I think it

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<v Speaker 3>was probably on the Patreon only show we did that.

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<v Speaker 3>David Shaw none too pleased with the body clock game

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<v Speaker 3>that they have against what Kansas State and Arlington at

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<v Speaker 3>Jerry World. And I know I think the the Oregon

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<v Speaker 3>Ohio State game is an eleven am Central, nine am

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<v Speaker 3>Pacific kick in Columbus, So that's like the big noon

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<v Speaker 3>Saturday because it's new Eastern time, big noon Saturday kick,

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<v Speaker 3>so that'll be early for Oregon. I don't think I've

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<v Speaker 3>heard anything in the way of Oregon coaches talking about

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<v Speaker 3>that kick, but it is something that is not a

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<v Speaker 3>terrific thing for teams flying west to east.

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<v Speaker 1>So there's that.

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<v Speaker 3>The PAC twelve as a new commissioner, and we'll see

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<v Speaker 3>if kick times and TV deals and bowl deals and

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<v Speaker 3>all that stuff gets revised, updated, as you know, whenever

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<v Speaker 3>that TV deal comes up.

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<v Speaker 1>So that's that.

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<v Speaker 3>Otherwise, not too much else worth diving deep into. We

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<v Speaker 3>have a number of really strong questions, good, good, spears,

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<v Speaker 3>hood whatever. Yeah, And if you are a Patreon verballer,

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<v Speaker 3>and that means you have signed up at verballers dot com,

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<v Speaker 3>you can also choose to watch this. And Ty looks

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<v Speaker 3>particularly handsome, but I deemed a it looks like a

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<v Speaker 3>cotton linen baby blue blend. There's a collar, it's a

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<v Speaker 3>button down. He looks like he's about to go on

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<v Speaker 3>an above average date.

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<v Speaker 1>See, you're always giving me a hard time because all

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<v Speaker 1>I have are gray T shirts, right, and I'm wearing

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<v Speaker 1>a great T shirt and you're wearing a great T shirt,

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<v Speaker 1>which I didn't know before we connect it up here.

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<v Speaker 1>So when we decided, like, oh, we have to record this,

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<v Speaker 1>I ran into the room. I grabbed the first first

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<v Speaker 1>non gray shirt that I could find, and it was

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<v Speaker 1>this looks spok. You look great. You're back from your

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<v Speaker 1>trips out west. We are back collectively as a show

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<v Speaker 1>from our trip back into twenty twenty. I went to

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<v Speaker 1>a restaurant for the first time yesterday and like over

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<v Speaker 1>a year, I'm feeling good man, So why not dress up?

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<v Speaker 1>Why not dress up? Why not? Why not build the

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<v Speaker 1>excitement headed into this twenty twenty one season. I'm ready.

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<v Speaker 3>All right, Let's let's start at the only place that

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<v Speaker 3>we really should start, and that's in ames Iowa tie

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<v Speaker 3>Brice Hall Heisman. This comes to us from Bort for

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<v Speaker 3>baller bort or very active and fantastic. What would Bryce

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<v Speaker 3>Hall have to do to win the Heisman? Is this team,

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<v Speaker 3>the Clones, a realistic national championship contender? And just how

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<v Speaker 3>badly will they beat Iowa this year? Well, let's go

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<v Speaker 3>how badly will Iowa State beat Iowa. I'm going to

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<v Speaker 3>say not very because that doesn't seem to be never

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<v Speaker 3>happened the way that the world.

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<v Speaker 1>No, necessarily no, no.

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<v Speaker 3>They of course did not play the Syhawk game last

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<v Speaker 3>season because the Big Ten was conference only. But early

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<v Speaker 3>prediction on that game. I tend to like Iowa ugly

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<v Speaker 3>because that's just the way of the world. Early prediction

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<v Speaker 3>on that game, and how high are your expectations in

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<v Speaker 3>terms of national conversation, because this is an Iowa State

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<v Speaker 3>team who won a New Year's six Bowl game, last

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<v Speaker 3>year against a legitimately good team and Breise Hall and

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<v Speaker 3>in Nueva York.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, look, I like Iowa State as I have

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<v Speaker 1>every year for the last what feels like eternity. It's

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<v Speaker 1>a fun team to root for. You'll remember back in

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<v Speaker 1>the day way Paul Rhodes on the Show of course,

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<v Speaker 1>friend of the Show, Paul Rhades, so proud. We've always

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<v Speaker 1>stuck for Iowa State. I'm looking at Iowa State schedule

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<v Speaker 1>right now. Look, Iowa State is going to have to

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<v Speaker 1>deal with a backloaded schedule. Have to deal with the

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<v Speaker 1>backloaded schedule. There's a good chance that they run through

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<v Speaker 1>the first half eight games I don't know of this

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<v Speaker 1>schedule and they go undefeated. There's a good chance of that.

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<v Speaker 1>But what it comes down to for them is the

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<v Speaker 1>last couple weeks of the year in November, when they've

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<v Speaker 1>got Texts at home, they've got Oklahoma on the road,

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<v Speaker 1>and they've got TCU at home, and then have a

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<v Speaker 1>Big twelve championship game. If they can make it through

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<v Speaker 1>that stretch of November, they certainly got a shot at

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<v Speaker 1>the Big Twelve. I don't think that's too far beyond

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<v Speaker 1>reason in terms of a pure national contender, though I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know if I'm feeling that. Man, that's a little

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<v Speaker 1>bit of a bridge too far.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know how good of a chance they have

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<v Speaker 3>it eight No, I mean, aside from Iowa they also

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<v Speaker 3>have what Kansas State and Oklahoma State, and I know

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<v Speaker 3>that opening and Oklahoma State has been kind of a nightmare.

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<v Speaker 3>They have loans, I share. I just I feel like

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<v Speaker 3>the Big twelve should be the goal. And yeah, if

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<v Speaker 3>if you can get to eight to oho and give

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<v Speaker 3>yourself a shot going into November, that's kind of the goal,

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<v Speaker 3>as opposed to are we going to make the playoff?

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<v Speaker 1>Are we going to win the Big twelve? Or undefeated?

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<v Speaker 3>It's reasonably fair to say a year after winning the

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<v Speaker 3>Fiesta Bal a New Year six game over another conference champion,

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<v Speaker 3>not that Iowa State was, but by a conference champion,

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<v Speaker 3>a P five conference champion, say, okay, where do we

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<v Speaker 3>stand nationally now? I mean they were a balanced team

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<v Speaker 3>with a relatively strong offense, relatively strong defense. I think

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<v Speaker 3>they returned Greg Eysworth, he comes back, and Charlie Cohler

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<v Speaker 3>would start at tight end for chan or anybody. Chaz

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<v Speaker 3>excuse me, Chaz Cohler would start at tight end for

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<v Speaker 3>damn near anybody, and they return a good amount. So

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<v Speaker 3>I think it's a fair question to say not just

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<v Speaker 3>Big twelve because they beat the Big twelve champion last year.

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<v Speaker 3>They came back and beat Texas and they beat Oregon,

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<v Speaker 3>so they their stage has grown. They're the attention the

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<v Speaker 3>magnifying glasses grown in magnitude on the clones. The problem

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<v Speaker 3>with Iowa State right now is I don't see a

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<v Speaker 3>winter Wonder a killer at receiver. All due respect to

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<v Speaker 3>Xavier Hutchinson, who I believe is back, and Rock Purdy

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<v Speaker 3>has these disappearing acts in certain games. They had four

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<v Speaker 3>or five straight three and outs, I believe against Oklahoma State,

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<v Speaker 3>and I looked it up, seemed like a clear day,

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<v Speaker 3>wasn't especially windy, there was not a monsoon situation happening,

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<v Speaker 3>and I think they missed a semi guppy they doing

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<v Speaker 3>the field goal, lost by three and doing the field

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<v Speaker 3>goal late in the first half, and so there's that issue.

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<v Speaker 3>To me, if we're going to talk about a national

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<v Speaker 3>championship contender, I want explosive speed on offense, game breaking

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<v Speaker 3>speed that if they are in an ugly game, they

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<v Speaker 3>have somebody who can bust an eighty one yard run,

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<v Speaker 3>and I like bris Hall a good amount, but I

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<v Speaker 3>don't think that offense is necessarily inventive, creative and intended

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<v Speaker 3>to generate those plays. It's much more ball control at times.

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<v Speaker 3>I looked up his percentage of carries going for five

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<v Speaker 3>plus yards was pretty low compared to the best of

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<v Speaker 3>twenty twenty's best running backs. And I don't think it's

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<v Speaker 3>necessarily his fault, but I think the way that that

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<v Speaker 3>offense is designed, it's not especially built for consistent explosion

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<v Speaker 3>from running back. And I also don't think he is

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<v Speaker 3>not necessarily a Heisman contender both for that reason, and

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<v Speaker 3>I don't think he is the type of all purpose player.

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<v Speaker 3>Now if he puts up cartoonish numbers, you know, like

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<v Speaker 3>somebody like who was it Andre Williams at Boston College

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<v Speaker 3>who went for two k I went two thousand yards,

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<v Speaker 3>that's a conversation. I'd like to see him in a

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<v Speaker 3>more all purpose Naji Harry, Naji Harry, Naji Harris, Christian McCaffrey,

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<v Speaker 3>those are the guys that seem to get those invites.

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<v Speaker 3>Were like, Okay, this guy is a danger out of

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<v Speaker 3>the backfield in the passing game, or in the return game,

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<v Speaker 3>and so I think, well, and here's just he just

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<v Speaker 3>happens to be very, very good.

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<v Speaker 1>He's very good. He rushed for almost seven hundred more

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<v Speaker 1>yards in twenty twenty over the previous season. We all

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<v Speaker 1>know it was a goofy season in twenty twenty. We

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<v Speaker 1>talked about that for the last month. But like, the

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<v Speaker 1>other component of this is that Spencer Ratler is also

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<v Speaker 1>in the Big Twelve, and there's a good chance that

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<v Speaker 1>Spencer Ratler's team is going to beat Iowa State once,

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<v Speaker 1>maybe twice, depending on how things go. That offense is

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<v Speaker 1>set up for someone like Spencer Rattler. So you would

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<v Speaker 1>need your team, I think, to outperform Oklahoma once, if

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<v Speaker 1>not twice. And then also you'd need to do something

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<v Speaker 1>statistically that's sort of cartoonish to make up for the

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<v Speaker 1>fact that Spencer Ratler is going to put up crazy numbers. Right.

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<v Speaker 3>I'd also say, because we mentioned the Iowa game and Bort,

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<v Speaker 3>it's so funny it's saying that name is sport Bort.

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<v Speaker 3>My son is also named Bort. If Breis Hall goes

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<v Speaker 3>bonkers against Iowa in week I believe it's two, right,

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<v Speaker 3>they have one two If he goes bonkers in a

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<v Speaker 3>winning efforts. I think September statements are huge. Now it's

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<v Speaker 3>not everything, but from a place that isn't necessarily going

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<v Speaker 3>to get benefits of the doubt late in the year.

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<v Speaker 3>In terms of talent, I think bonkers against the Hawks.

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<v Speaker 3>I think it's a conversation we can have in earnest

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<v Speaker 3>at that point. I will then yeah, wait and see.

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<v Speaker 1>I will say this though, I do think he is

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<v Speaker 1>the top running back at this early juncture in the preseason.

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<v Speaker 1>He's a twelve or overall. Now he's the top running

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<v Speaker 1>back candidate for the Heisman. Interesting, so I think he's

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<v Speaker 1>I think he's definitely got a shot. I just think

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<v Speaker 1>his path is going to be blocked by the fact

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<v Speaker 1>that his team needs to beat Oklahoma again once, if

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<v Speaker 1>not twice. And secondly, I think the Heisman front runner

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<v Speaker 1>Spencer Rattler is also in the Big twelve.

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<v Speaker 3>So b Jean Robinson has I think better odds right

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<v Speaker 3>now at Texas at running back. Okay, that's what I'm

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<v Speaker 3>seeing right now, per Vegas Insider. Right, Bjeon Robinson will

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<v Speaker 3>be playing in that more inventive offense. We'll see who

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<v Speaker 3>ends up winning that quarterback job, but b Jeon Robinson

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<v Speaker 3>with the benefit of Sark, with the benefit of what

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<v Speaker 3>we've seen from him in terms of explosivity. Now I

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<v Speaker 3>think a lot that's Colorado and the Bowl game whatever.

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<v Speaker 3>But sorry, Colorado, I look I like, I think his

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<v Speaker 3>ceiling might be higher, but the proven guy is Breece Hall.

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<v Speaker 3>Though the guy you can set your watch to is

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<v Speaker 3>bris Hall.

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<v Speaker 1>But yeah, I think we've been we've been waiting for Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>we've been waiting for Texas to be back as long

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<v Speaker 1>as we've been waiting for Texas to find a running

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<v Speaker 1>back consistently. So now if you're asking me who am

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<v Speaker 1>I picking who am I betting on, I would definitely

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<v Speaker 1>pick Brice Hal over Bejon Robinson. Even if the ceiling

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<v Speaker 1>is higher, it's just more of a proven commodity at

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<v Speaker 1>this point. So anyway, let's move on. Let's go next question. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>you tell me where do you want to go. Let's

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<v Speaker 1>talk about the Sabin question. We got it from Justin

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<v Speaker 1>and he says, what is the ideal retirement scenario for Sabin?

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<v Speaker 1>Does he win one more, go off into the sunset,

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<v Speaker 1>get a cushy TV gig. He's pretty good on TV

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<v Speaker 1>by the way, just good throwing this out there, better

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<v Speaker 1>at coaching, better coaching? Or does he coach until he

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<v Speaker 1>can't anymore because he can't imagine doing anything else. So

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<v Speaker 1>a couple different ways that you can approach Justin's question.

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<v Speaker 1>He says, what is the ideal retirement for Saban? That

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<v Speaker 1>is a subjective question for Nick Saban, what is ideal

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<v Speaker 1>for him? I find it hard to believe that Nick

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<v Speaker 1>Saban's going to be satisfied doing anything other than coaching.

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<v Speaker 1>I agree, he seems like he would be miserable around

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<v Speaker 1>the house doing household chores, maybe just doing the TV

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<v Speaker 1>thing that urban's been doing the last couple of years

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<v Speaker 1>before he caught on with the Jags. So if from

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<v Speaker 1>my layman's perspective, I think the ideal for him as

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<v Speaker 1>a man would be to just coach until he can't anymore.

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<v Speaker 1>It seems like he's a dude. I don't think there's

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<v Speaker 1>any sort of elegant way to do things. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>we saw.

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<v Speaker 3>We've seen guys at major places, bigging on Power five

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<v Speaker 3>programs say okay, it's May, it's June. I think Bob

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<v Speaker 3>Stoops retired when I was on my honeymoon had to

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<v Speaker 3>be like TI get somebody. I don't think I have

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<v Speaker 3>an Internet connection in Santorini. Yeah, there's no right way,

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<v Speaker 3>there's no best way.

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<v Speaker 1>You know.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't see a Nick Saban situation because he's so

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<v Speaker 3>competitive that he is going to retire after winning a

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<v Speaker 3>national championship and put his successor, especially if it's somebody

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<v Speaker 3>internally in a really bad recruiting position where all of

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<v Speaker 3>a sudden, guys are asking out of their letters of

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<v Speaker 3>intent and it's not great for them the way Bob

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<v Speaker 3>Stoops did it, where he didn't do it until June,

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<v Speaker 3>and so guys were sort of locked in with Spring

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<v Speaker 3>practice and you know, much further along the road that

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<v Speaker 3>in that process. But I think that's what we'll probably.

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<v Speaker 1>End up seeing.

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<v Speaker 3>And maybe Nick Saban's going to stay on in an

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<v Speaker 3>advisory role, but no, I think Nick Saban will know

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<v Speaker 3>when whenever it is that he doesn't feel the juice

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<v Speaker 3>to recruits, to coach, to be at practice, to be

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<v Speaker 3>the person that pays that close attention to every single detail,

0:18:21.880 --> 0:18:24.520
<v Speaker 3>he just be like I'm out, or his health will

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<v Speaker 3>dictate it, something will dictate that. He is just like, nope,

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<v Speaker 3>I'm not giving everything I have, so it's not worth

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<v Speaker 3>it and he'll just leave. Now, will it be a

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<v Speaker 3>situation like Steve spurriy or middle of the season, I

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<v Speaker 3>say no. I think he will be able to muster.

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<v Speaker 3>If he's physically able to. He'll coach out whatever his

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<v Speaker 3>final year is, unless there is something, you know, physically

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<v Speaker 3>holding him back. But now I think it's going to

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<v Speaker 3>be much closer to Bob Stoops, where he is just

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<v Speaker 3>going to be in the doldrums of the offseason and

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<v Speaker 3>just realizes he doesn't have the capacity to dig as

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<v Speaker 3>deep as as he demands of himself and he'll be like, yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>that's that offensive coordinators taking over whatever?

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<v Speaker 1>Could Could it be an nil kind of thing? Because

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<v Speaker 1>we just saw coach k from Duke decide that he's

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<v Speaker 1>going to hang it up after this year. Reportedly, one

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<v Speaker 1>of the reasons, or one of the accelerants, let's say,

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<v Speaker 1>in that decision making was the NIL and the variables

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<v Speaker 1>inflicting reports on that that he had been boths he

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<v Speaker 1>had been supportive of publicly anyway supportive of the changes.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, obviously basketball is a lot trickier with fewer

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<v Speaker 1>roster spots and all the how transfers affect a basketball roster,

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<v Speaker 1>maybe more so than football, because there's only so many

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<v Speaker 1>guys you can lose before you really have to start panicking.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think it's it's a clear analog, but obviously

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<v Speaker 1>these are two all time great coaches in their sports.

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<v Speaker 1>But no, I just don't see Alabama being especially affected

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<v Speaker 1>by things like that. They've they've been able to you know,

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<v Speaker 1>they lose coaches every year and they restock no problem.

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<v Speaker 1>They release transfer his top level transfer, they restock like

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<v Speaker 1>Nick Saban just has been so ahead of the curb

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<v Speaker 1>and able to roll with a pretty extreme and drastic

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<v Speaker 1>changes throughout the year. So I don't think that's that

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<v Speaker 1>as being something that affects him. No, And that's the

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<v Speaker 1>thing I was thinking Joe paternal all right, Joe Paterno

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<v Speaker 1>should have retired long before he was eventually forced out.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not going into all that, but just a from

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<v Speaker 1>a football coaching standpoint, Joe Paterno got to a point

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<v Speaker 1>where everything he was doing was stagnant. There was no creativity.

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<v Speaker 1>You'd bring new guys in here and there, but it

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<v Speaker 1>was ultimately the same thing that he ran for fifty years.

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<v Speaker 1>Nick Saban doesn't do that, just disrespect to the spread.

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<v Speaker 1>HD just disrespect Nick Saban doesn't do that. Nick Saban

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<v Speaker 1>has turnover every year. He changed his entire system like

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<v Speaker 1>eight times. This is a guy who's very adaptable, and

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<v Speaker 1>so it will certainly not go that way for Saban.

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<v Speaker 1>It's it's ultimately gonna be when he decides that he

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<v Speaker 1>wants to hanging up. He will remain successful for as

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<v Speaker 1>long as he's there. Yeah, he just he will signed

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<v Speaker 1>the best recruiting class of all of all time. So

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<v Speaker 1>it's not like he is taking his foot off the gas.

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<v Speaker 1>There are no signs that he is at all slowing down,

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<v Speaker 1>that he enjoys it any less. If anything, I think

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<v Speaker 1>he would enjoy lifeless if he weren't, you know, doing

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<v Speaker 1>this so.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, most ruthlessly efficient scoring offense of all time. I

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<v Speaker 3>believe this past fall with Mac Jones a first year

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<v Speaker 3>full time starter. Yeah, okay, Hoover.

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<v Speaker 1>Street signs of wear and tear Hoover Street rides in.

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<v Speaker 1>He says, does Michigan have a reasonable head coaching plan B?

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<v Speaker 1>If things don't turn around for Harball? Do they have

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<v Speaker 1>a reasonable plan B? Right? This is the operative question

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<v Speaker 1>if you are a Michigan fan, If you're Michigan brass.

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<v Speaker 1>If not Harbaugh, then who Well. I was just going

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<v Speaker 1>to paraphrase Stephen Godfrey, longtime friend. Every ad has a

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<v Speaker 1>piece of paper in their desk of calls they will

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<v Speaker 1>make of guys they have begun to vet or even

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<v Speaker 1>think might be a good fit. Should a coach do

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<v Speaker 1>something to get fired, should a coach leave for another job,

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<v Speaker 1>should a coach just decide to retire for whatever reason

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<v Speaker 1>out of the blue. Every ad has that, and there's

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<v Speaker 1>no reason to think Ward Manual doesn't have that. And

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<v Speaker 1>a good reason also is he nailed the basketball higher.

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<v Speaker 1>Juwan Howard right, as far as I can tell, has

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<v Speaker 1>been very well received and has had a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>early success as the Michigan basketball coach. So he nailed

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<v Speaker 1>the basketball hire.

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<v Speaker 3>So there's no reason to think that he is not

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<v Speaker 3>on top of things as it relates to the Football

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<v Speaker 3>of the Future program if and when Jim Harbaugh is

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<v Speaker 3>no longer the head coach there. So they do have

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<v Speaker 3>a backup plan. I think they have a plan ABCDEFG

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<v Speaker 3>and time will tell when that piece of paper will

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<v Speaker 3>be taken out of Ward Manual's desk, but they do absolutely.

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<v Speaker 1>Here's the thing, though here's the one caveat to that,

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<v Speaker 1>and I don't disagree. Of course, everybody, everybody at that

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<v Speaker 1>level has to have that piece of paper in the desk.

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<v Speaker 1>I am going to draw a very crude comparison here

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<v Speaker 1>to the time that Notre Dame hired Charlie Weiss. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>if we could go back way yonder, thank you, Let's

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<v Speaker 1>hop in the time machine for a second. Notre Dame

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<v Speaker 1>brought Charlie Weiss on under the pretense that he was

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<v Speaker 1>going to be the savior of the program. Charlie Weiss

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<v Speaker 1>didn't like say anything to try and dispel that notion.

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<v Speaker 1>He kind of steered into it and delivered on it early,

0:23:33.640 --> 0:23:36.320
<v Speaker 1>delivered on it early, sort of led to his undoing

0:23:36.359 --> 0:23:39.080
<v Speaker 1>in the end. We won't go into that whole rigamarole,

0:23:39.160 --> 0:23:42.440
<v Speaker 1>but that was they brought him in under that pretense

0:23:42.440 --> 0:23:44.200
<v Speaker 1>that he was going to be the savior of the program,

0:23:45.000 --> 0:23:49.199
<v Speaker 1>as did Michigan with Jim Harbaugh. Jim Harbaugh has been

0:23:49.240 --> 0:23:52.560
<v Speaker 1>fine for the program. He's certainly been better for Michigan

0:23:52.560 --> 0:23:54.480
<v Speaker 1>football than Weiss was for Notre Dame.

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<v Speaker 2>M HM.

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<v Speaker 1>But there is no getting around the fact that if

0:23:59.640 --> 0:24:02.920
<v Speaker 1>they move on beyond Harbaugh, it will be a letdown

0:24:03.840 --> 0:24:07.760
<v Speaker 1>for Michigan fans, brass you name it, boosters will be

0:24:08.000 --> 0:24:11.160
<v Speaker 1>it will be felt as a letdown. Well, it'll be. Yeah,

0:24:11.160 --> 0:24:14.560
<v Speaker 1>it'll be disappointing that Harbad didn't. It will be very disappointing,

0:24:15.040 --> 0:24:19.479
<v Speaker 1>very disappointing. And I recall even when I knew that

0:24:19.520 --> 0:24:23.120
<v Speaker 1>things are going sideways for Weiss at Notre Dame, even

0:24:23.160 --> 0:24:25.040
<v Speaker 1>though I knew they had to move on, it still

0:24:25.040 --> 0:24:28.840
<v Speaker 1>felt disappointing and like a big old l when they

0:24:29.440 --> 0:24:33.399
<v Speaker 1>pulled the trigger and then they hired Brian Kelly, and

0:24:33.440 --> 0:24:35.760
<v Speaker 1>Brian Kelly at the time was not the sexy higher.

0:24:36.240 --> 0:24:39.520
<v Speaker 1>He had a bunch of great seasons with Cincinnati, he

0:24:39.520 --> 0:24:41.679
<v Speaker 1>had been with Grand Valley State. I think it was

0:24:41.760 --> 0:24:43.840
<v Speaker 1>widely assumed that he was just a guy who wanted

0:24:43.840 --> 0:24:45.359
<v Speaker 1>the job the most. He was in the running for

0:24:45.440 --> 0:24:47.800
<v Speaker 1>it the first time. They didn't go that directly. He

0:24:47.880 --> 0:24:50.320
<v Speaker 1>wasn't Harba, but he was, I mean, just led Cincinnati

0:24:50.359 --> 0:24:52.800
<v Speaker 1>to an undefeated season. He was a very good coach,

0:24:52.880 --> 0:24:56.160
<v Speaker 1>but he was certainly not the sexy Dare I say,

0:24:56.240 --> 0:24:59.439
<v Speaker 1>Charlie Weiss hire right right right, not connected to a

0:24:59.520 --> 0:25:02.600
<v Speaker 1>name as you just Tom Brady or something exactly. So

0:25:02.720 --> 0:25:05.000
<v Speaker 1>when they brought Brian Kelly in, I remember feeling a

0:25:05.000 --> 0:25:07.680
<v Speaker 1>bit let down, like hmm okay, like he wanted the

0:25:07.760 --> 0:25:10.520
<v Speaker 1>job the most and that was cool, but it's still

0:25:10.560 --> 0:25:13.600
<v Speaker 1>like Brian Kelly, Okay, how do I feel about that?

0:25:13.840 --> 0:25:16.159
<v Speaker 3>But that's sort of the antithesis, right, that's somebody with

0:25:16.840 --> 0:25:20.000
<v Speaker 3>college coaching experience, somebody who has like who has come

0:25:20.080 --> 0:25:22.680
<v Speaker 3>up through the ranks in a in a very collegey way,

0:25:22.880 --> 0:25:25.200
<v Speaker 3>unlike you know, Charlie Weis, you know, with his experience

0:25:25.200 --> 0:25:26.760
<v Speaker 3>in the pros for as long as it was there,

0:25:26.800 --> 0:25:29.040
<v Speaker 3>as long as he was there, and it was just like, Okay,

0:25:29.080 --> 0:25:31.440
<v Speaker 3>he wins everywhere he goes. He grows as a quarter,

0:25:31.520 --> 0:25:33.880
<v Speaker 3>as a as a play caller, and a head coach

0:25:33.920 --> 0:25:37.760
<v Speaker 3>and a recruiter, and he has ascended to because Cincinnati,

0:25:37.760 --> 0:25:39.320
<v Speaker 3>you know, we're talking about a team that won a

0:25:39.320 --> 0:25:41.800
<v Speaker 3>lot in the Big East around then he has ascended

0:25:41.800 --> 0:25:44.560
<v Speaker 3>to the Notre Dame level instead of Okay, here's an

0:25:44.600 --> 0:25:46.840
<v Speaker 3>experiment with somebody who was a big name and now

0:25:47.200 --> 0:25:47.960
<v Speaker 3>with Michigan.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and you think, by the way, it's not it's

0:25:50.240 --> 0:25:53.280
<v Speaker 1>not a direct comparison between one. But like in Horrorball

0:25:53.400 --> 0:25:55.480
<v Speaker 1>and Brian Kelly and who might be next for Michigan.

0:25:55.520 --> 0:25:57.720
<v Speaker 1>But you know, I'm just thinking of it from a

0:25:57.760 --> 0:26:00.840
<v Speaker 1>fan's perspective. I was really disappointed when the Weisting blew up.

0:26:00.960 --> 0:26:03.040
<v Speaker 1>I didn't really like Charlie Weist that much as person

0:26:03.320 --> 0:26:05.800
<v Speaker 1>like he's kind of a jerk. He really was, But

0:26:05.880 --> 0:26:10.640
<v Speaker 1>ultimately I was hopeful that he could come in with

0:26:10.680 --> 0:26:13.000
<v Speaker 1>his expertise he had worked with Tom Brady. It's like,

0:26:13.000 --> 0:26:15.720
<v Speaker 1>oh my god, this is going to be such well recruited,

0:26:15.760 --> 0:26:19.120
<v Speaker 1>really well at the skill positions, recruited well, it's didn't

0:26:19.160 --> 0:26:22.359
<v Speaker 1>work out, did not work out. I feel for the

0:26:22.400 --> 0:26:26.800
<v Speaker 1>Michigan faithful out there, who, if and when the Wolverines

0:26:26.800 --> 0:26:29.960
<v Speaker 1>go in a different direction, feel disappointed by the fact that,

0:26:30.359 --> 0:26:32.600
<v Speaker 1>damn it didn't work out with our guy Harbaugh. My

0:26:32.680 --> 0:26:35.800
<v Speaker 1>only point in bringing all this up, this long winded diatribe,

0:26:36.080 --> 0:26:38.160
<v Speaker 1>is just that have faith in that piece of paper,

0:26:38.160 --> 0:26:41.920
<v Speaker 1>because you're right, they did get the Juwan Howard higher correct.

0:26:42.280 --> 0:26:43.760
<v Speaker 1>I'm sure there are a lot of coaches out there

0:26:43.760 --> 0:26:46.400
<v Speaker 1>who really want the Michigan job. And just because it's

0:26:46.440 --> 0:26:48.560
<v Speaker 1>not as big a name as a Jim Harbaugh, a

0:26:48.600 --> 0:26:50.960
<v Speaker 1>Michigan man, so to speak, it doesn't mean that the

0:26:51.000 --> 0:26:53.159
<v Speaker 1>next guy can't have success. I don't think there's a

0:26:53.280 --> 0:26:56.440
<v Speaker 1>very obvious plan be There are definitely good coaches, younger

0:26:56.480 --> 0:26:58.760
<v Speaker 1>coaches who might want to take a crack at this

0:26:58.840 --> 0:27:01.639
<v Speaker 1>and could do a great job at Michigan. It's just

0:27:01.720 --> 0:27:03.439
<v Speaker 1>none of them are going to come to sex appeal

0:27:03.480 --> 0:27:08.000
<v Speaker 1>as Jim Harbaugh. They're just not well so in the footprint.

0:27:08.160 --> 0:27:10.640
<v Speaker 3>Obviously, you have Luke Fickel, who turned down Michigan State,

0:27:10.680 --> 0:27:12.760
<v Speaker 3>who has his own Ohio State connections, but it doesn't

0:27:12.760 --> 0:27:14.000
<v Speaker 3>seem like Cincinnatio.

0:27:14.119 --> 0:27:14.800
<v Speaker 1>Cincinnati guy.

0:27:14.960 --> 0:27:18.639
<v Speaker 3>Another Cincinnati guy who's had tremendous success there. You know

0:27:18.760 --> 0:27:21.840
<v Speaker 3>Jeff Halfley at Boston College. You have Tom Allen at Indiana,

0:27:21.960 --> 0:27:24.879
<v Speaker 3>Mario Christaball at Oregon, all of you know, Michigan is

0:27:24.920 --> 0:27:28.119
<v Speaker 3>a bigger national program than all of these places. If

0:27:28.119 --> 0:27:30.000
<v Speaker 3>you want to look guys up and coming in the area,

0:27:30.040 --> 0:27:32.160
<v Speaker 3>they're younger guys. Matt Campbell of course at Iowa State.

0:27:32.200 --> 0:27:34.560
<v Speaker 3>We've already talked about clones. Even you know Sean Lewis

0:27:34.560 --> 0:27:37.000
<v Speaker 3>at Kent State. You know, it's it's going to be

0:27:37.000 --> 0:27:38.679
<v Speaker 3>about fit, it's going to be about the ability to

0:27:38.800 --> 0:27:44.440
<v Speaker 3>navigate the behind the scenes scene at Michigan, which rich

0:27:44.560 --> 0:27:48.400
<v Speaker 3>Rod I think early on was sort of undercut if

0:27:48.400 --> 0:27:50.119
<v Speaker 3>you read a lot about what was going on. He

0:27:50.200 --> 0:27:52.560
<v Speaker 3>lost a lot of players to transfer when when he

0:27:52.760 --> 0:27:56.560
<v Speaker 3>was brought in and Lloyd Carr retired. And so it's

0:27:56.640 --> 0:27:58.639
<v Speaker 3>going to be a fit thing more than anything. It's

0:27:58.680 --> 0:27:59.879
<v Speaker 3>going to be a vision thing, and it's going to

0:27:59.880 --> 0:28:03.479
<v Speaker 3>be who's empowered. And it's a problem that Texas has

0:28:03.520 --> 0:28:06.560
<v Speaker 3>had where like, Okay, this booster behind the scenes doesn't

0:28:06.640 --> 0:28:08.800
<v Speaker 3>like this coordinator hire this is who they're hiring at

0:28:08.800 --> 0:28:11.119
<v Speaker 3>this coordinator or this assistant coach, Like, who's going to

0:28:11.119 --> 0:28:13.480
<v Speaker 3>be empowered, who's going to be able to navigate all

0:28:13.480 --> 0:28:15.400
<v Speaker 3>of those things, who's being able to recruit, and who's

0:28:15.440 --> 0:28:18.200
<v Speaker 3>going to be able to say this is the job

0:28:18.280 --> 0:28:20.520
<v Speaker 3>that I have been working towards and that I want

0:28:20.640 --> 0:28:23.719
<v Speaker 3>specifically because it has opened up because it is one

0:28:23.760 --> 0:28:26.760
<v Speaker 3>of the world's major college football jobs. So you know,

0:28:26.800 --> 0:28:28.959
<v Speaker 3>there are all those names, and I don't you know,

0:28:29.160 --> 0:28:31.399
<v Speaker 3>Tom Allen would be amazing at Michigan. Is he going

0:28:31.480 --> 0:28:35.800
<v Speaker 3>to leave for a team in the conference? Hard to say.

0:28:36.040 --> 0:28:38.680
<v Speaker 3>Generational wealth is a hell of a thing. Who knows,

0:28:38.680 --> 0:28:40.920
<v Speaker 3>But he's getting paid in Indiana. So I think there

0:28:40.920 --> 0:28:42.920
<v Speaker 3>are a number of names. Pat Fitzgerald another name that

0:28:42.960 --> 0:28:45.040
<v Speaker 3>constantly comes up with these kinds of jobs. He just

0:28:45.080 --> 0:28:48.480
<v Speaker 3>signed an extension. Hard to see him leaving Northwestern, a

0:28:48.480 --> 0:28:51.160
<v Speaker 3>place that he has built into what it is. But

0:28:51.640 --> 0:28:53.360
<v Speaker 3>you know, there are those names, are all those there

0:28:53.400 --> 0:28:57.040
<v Speaker 3>are those conversations. Michigan remains a big place, but it

0:28:57.080 --> 0:29:00.560
<v Speaker 3>has you know, the shadow has grown deeper and darker

0:29:00.600 --> 0:29:03.080
<v Speaker 3>in that conference because of Ohio State success. So it's

0:29:03.120 --> 0:29:05.680
<v Speaker 3>going to take a lot, but I don't think it's

0:29:05.680 --> 0:29:07.200
<v Speaker 3>going to be I don't think Michigan is going to

0:29:07.280 --> 0:29:09.880
<v Speaker 3>have to go to their fifth choice now at this job.

0:29:10.080 --> 0:29:12.680
<v Speaker 1>By the way, I like that you throw out Halfley's

0:29:12.720 --> 0:29:16.320
<v Speaker 1>name for every opening. Big the big Halfley guy. You're

0:29:16.320 --> 0:29:17.360
<v Speaker 1>a big Halfey guy.

0:29:17.640 --> 0:29:21.640
<v Speaker 3>He is well regarded. Boston College did pretty well this

0:29:21.680 --> 0:29:25.120
<v Speaker 3>past year, and he was I mean, is he one

0:29:25.160 --> 0:29:29.280
<v Speaker 3>of the better coordinated Big ten coordinators the past five years?

0:29:29.280 --> 0:29:32.480
<v Speaker 3>An enormous amount of talent, But yeah, absolutely, I like

0:29:32.560 --> 0:29:34.840
<v Speaker 3>I like that you're a fan. I'm telling you he's

0:29:34.840 --> 0:29:37.320
<v Speaker 3>well regarded in these circles. That's all I'm telling you.

0:29:37.400 --> 0:29:41.440
<v Speaker 1>And he was really good on the coach's film room.

0:29:41.560 --> 0:29:43.960
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, so the ultimate launchal experience.

0:29:44.120 --> 0:29:44.479
<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

0:29:44.600 --> 0:29:46.080
<v Speaker 3>I think he was with the forty nine ers. So

0:29:46.200 --> 0:29:48.600
<v Speaker 3>you have that crossover with Jim Harbough. That's important.

0:29:49.440 --> 0:29:51.320
<v Speaker 1>I like him too, just not not as much as you,

0:29:51.440 --> 0:29:53.320
<v Speaker 1>which is fine. It's okay. So you'll get there. You'll

0:29:53.320 --> 0:29:55.280
<v Speaker 1>get there. I will probably get a question you pick.

0:29:56.360 --> 0:29:58.960
<v Speaker 1>All right. This sort of goes hand in hand with

0:29:59.040 --> 0:30:02.280
<v Speaker 1>this U. This is from the real weave. Don't know

0:30:02.360 --> 0:30:02.880
<v Speaker 1>what that means.

0:30:02.880 --> 0:30:05.640
<v Speaker 3>Okay, what are the top five? College football is better

0:30:05.680 --> 0:30:09.040
<v Speaker 3>when team X is good? Conversely, which teams make college

0:30:09.040 --> 0:30:12.320
<v Speaker 3>football better when they stink? This is the ultimate fantasy thing.

0:30:13.320 --> 0:30:19.000
<v Speaker 3>It's a fantasy thing question, and it's completely subjective, and

0:30:19.040 --> 0:30:21.120
<v Speaker 3>it is a thing that people will try it out

0:30:21.160 --> 0:30:23.320
<v Speaker 3>in the off Seaton koshur Watch is better when Texas

0:30:23.360 --> 0:30:25.680
<v Speaker 3>is good. Klchhaw is better when Alabama's College is better

0:30:25.720 --> 0:30:29.920
<v Speaker 3>when Miami's good. The one that jumps out to me

0:30:30.000 --> 0:30:35.200
<v Speaker 3>is USC. I just think for geographic balance. I like

0:30:35.880 --> 0:30:41.080
<v Speaker 3>a strong SC holding with Oregon and sometimes Washington and

0:30:41.120 --> 0:30:43.960
<v Speaker 3>Stanley Lake. But you have to have that USC base

0:30:44.000 --> 0:30:46.200
<v Speaker 3>to have college football be a thing in Los Angeles.

0:30:46.240 --> 0:30:48.760
<v Speaker 3>I think is a big deal for the sport and

0:30:49.200 --> 0:30:52.000
<v Speaker 3>we've seen that sort of vacuum, even with other schools

0:30:52.000 --> 0:30:55.080
<v Speaker 3>having success on the West Coast. It's really it's really

0:30:55.160 --> 0:30:59.400
<v Speaker 3>nice for the sport when USC, particularly with the charismatic coach.

0:31:00.000 --> 0:31:03.080
<v Speaker 3>I think it's only happened once recently, but I think

0:31:03.120 --> 0:31:05.960
<v Speaker 3>that's important, So that would be an answer.

0:31:06.240 --> 0:31:07.640
<v Speaker 1>A lot of people say Miami.

0:31:08.520 --> 0:31:10.480
<v Speaker 3>I think a lot of it is environments, Like it's

0:31:10.560 --> 0:31:13.040
<v Speaker 3>nice to have this environment rocking, It's nice to have

0:31:13.080 --> 0:31:15.240
<v Speaker 3>a huge game at this school. It's nice to have

0:31:15.280 --> 0:31:19.200
<v Speaker 3>a big game involving this school. Anytime, Miami is the

0:31:19.240 --> 0:31:22.000
<v Speaker 3>answer here. And we've heard people say this one before, right,

0:31:22.320 --> 0:31:26.080
<v Speaker 3>plenty of times. My football's better with Miami good. Again, Sure,

0:31:26.640 --> 0:31:31.040
<v Speaker 3>it's not like Michigan, it's not like Texas. Anytime somebody

0:31:31.080 --> 0:31:33.920
<v Speaker 3>answers Miami, they're talking about some of those legendary Miami

0:31:33.960 --> 0:31:35.920
<v Speaker 3>teams that we saw, Sure at the turn of the

0:31:35.960 --> 0:31:42.040
<v Speaker 3>century in the early aughts. I don't really care if

0:31:42.040 --> 0:31:44.880
<v Speaker 3>Miami's good. See I do, and I'll tell you why.

0:31:45.480 --> 0:31:48.640
<v Speaker 3>And it's a very similar reason to USC. It's geographic balance,

0:31:48.680 --> 0:31:52.440
<v Speaker 3>but it's also because there's so much talent in South Florida.

0:31:52.840 --> 0:31:57.320
<v Speaker 3>If Miami is really, really good, and really really good consistently.

0:31:57.960 --> 0:32:02.200
<v Speaker 3>The assumption is is that they're recruiting and developing and

0:32:02.720 --> 0:32:06.719
<v Speaker 3>evaluating the best of the best in their backyard and

0:32:06.840 --> 0:32:09.560
<v Speaker 3>keeping them home. We've seen all of the players leave

0:32:09.600 --> 0:32:12.400
<v Speaker 3>that area and have so much success elsewhere. So if

0:32:12.440 --> 0:32:15.320
<v Speaker 3>you're talking about a Miami team that is keeping talent home,

0:32:15.360 --> 0:32:19.240
<v Speaker 3>you're talking about a stacked college football experience, right, You're

0:32:19.240 --> 0:32:23.680
<v Speaker 3>talking about a team that is laughably deep, especially at

0:32:23.760 --> 0:32:27.080
<v Speaker 3>speedier positions. And so that to me is a big deal.

0:32:27.640 --> 0:32:30.200
<v Speaker 3>And even though they play in an NFL stadium and

0:32:30.240 --> 0:32:32.040
<v Speaker 3>it's a smaller private school and it doesn't have the

0:32:32.080 --> 0:32:36.240
<v Speaker 3>fan base size, that sort of archetype of a really

0:32:36.280 --> 0:32:40.080
<v Speaker 3>good Miami program is I mean, is there another program

0:32:40.120 --> 0:32:45.520
<v Speaker 3>in the country that when they're good, you understand how

0:32:45.560 --> 0:32:48.280
<v Speaker 3>they play and what their game is like. And you know,

0:32:48.360 --> 0:32:51.360
<v Speaker 3>they even the one year recently where they had a

0:32:51.520 --> 0:32:55.280
<v Speaker 3>spurt a streak of really good football games, they were

0:32:55.280 --> 0:32:58.280
<v Speaker 3>really fun ty the turnover chain, turnover chain, right, you know,

0:32:59.120 --> 0:33:02.840
<v Speaker 3>fun and cool and unique in that moment it was.

0:33:03.280 --> 0:33:06.320
<v Speaker 3>And so that to me can't be replicated when another

0:33:06.400 --> 0:33:09.200
<v Speaker 3>school is good. There is a certain and they've all

0:33:09.240 --> 0:33:12.320
<v Speaker 3>tried to replicate the turnover chain. No, I know I'm saying,

0:33:12.320 --> 0:33:14.360
<v Speaker 3>but they're influential in that way. Who cares.

0:33:14.560 --> 0:33:17.120
<v Speaker 1>I I feel like every time I hear this answer,

0:33:17.720 --> 0:33:20.840
<v Speaker 1>Miami football is better. It's just better when Miami is well,

0:33:20.840 --> 0:33:21.280
<v Speaker 1>holl good.

0:33:21.680 --> 0:33:25.400
<v Speaker 3>What do we have hypothetically, if Miami is an a

0:33:25.400 --> 0:33:28.040
<v Speaker 3>A program, whatever, what do we have? Well, we have

0:33:28.080 --> 0:33:28.960
<v Speaker 3>a second.

0:33:28.600 --> 0:33:31.840
<v Speaker 1>Team in the ACC that it can be excellent. I guess,

0:33:31.960 --> 0:33:35.320
<v Speaker 1>I guess I think I miss I miss it does,

0:33:35.440 --> 0:33:39.880
<v Speaker 1>Sure it does. It absolutely makes college football better insofar

0:33:39.960 --> 0:33:43.560
<v Speaker 1>as there's a counterbalance, perhaps too Clemson. Yeah, I miss

0:33:43.560 --> 0:33:45.840
<v Speaker 1>Florida State a lot more than I missed Miami. Okay,

0:33:46.400 --> 0:33:48.280
<v Speaker 1>I mean they can both be the answer. They both

0:33:48.320 --> 0:33:50.360
<v Speaker 1>be the answer. This isn't to say, by the way

0:33:50.360 --> 0:33:52.320
<v Speaker 1>that I'm rooting against Miami, that I have any kind

0:33:52.320 --> 0:33:54.840
<v Speaker 1>of issue with Miami. But I just I think it's

0:33:54.880 --> 0:33:57.080
<v Speaker 1>a bad answer because I feel like, more often than not,

0:33:57.160 --> 0:33:59.920
<v Speaker 1>when people say it, they miss Miami when they were

0:34:00.080 --> 0:34:02.760
<v Speaker 1>awesome back in the day. Sure we all do, they

0:34:02.800 --> 0:34:05.120
<v Speaker 1>were they were awesome back in the day. I just

0:34:05.160 --> 0:34:06.720
<v Speaker 1>don't think that's the best answer here. I don't know

0:34:06.800 --> 0:34:07.880
<v Speaker 1>if I could tell you year.

0:34:07.760 --> 0:34:10.960
<v Speaker 3>In and year out, I'm not talking about national championship contender Miami.

0:34:10.960 --> 0:34:12.759
<v Speaker 3>I'm talking about year in and year out, ten and

0:34:12.800 --> 0:34:17.400
<v Speaker 3>two Miami with killer receivers and running backs and safeties

0:34:17.440 --> 0:34:20.160
<v Speaker 3>and corners and an edge rusher that just year in

0:34:20.160 --> 0:34:23.000
<v Speaker 3>and year out. Though these are like first second round talents,

0:34:23.440 --> 0:34:26.879
<v Speaker 3>and year in, year out, they scare the bejesus out

0:34:26.880 --> 0:34:29.839
<v Speaker 3>of Dabo Sweeney. Year in ch I'm okay, we get

0:34:29.880 --> 0:34:34.239
<v Speaker 3>shots of Dabbo on the sideline looking frustrated, angry, and

0:34:34.360 --> 0:34:37.680
<v Speaker 3>overwhelmed by a loud Miami crowd with players on the

0:34:37.760 --> 0:34:42.239
<v Speaker 3>other sidelines howling with laughter overbeating Clemson. You're telling me

0:34:42.280 --> 0:34:45.160
<v Speaker 3>college football is not obviously more fun in that situation.

0:34:44.880 --> 0:34:47.799
<v Speaker 1>We could It's a counterpoint, counterpoint to Mount Point. If

0:34:47.800 --> 0:34:50.880
<v Speaker 1>we could get that version of Miami, just that super

0:34:51.040 --> 0:34:55.239
<v Speaker 1>chippy yeah version of Miami that we saw back in

0:34:55.280 --> 0:34:59.520
<v Speaker 1>the day, that would serve as the counterbalance to Clemson,

0:34:59.600 --> 0:35:02.759
<v Speaker 1>that would really get in Dabo's kraw. You have really

0:35:02.880 --> 0:35:07.319
<v Speaker 1>in Dallas craw Dobo. Yeah, Dabbo would hate it. I

0:35:07.360 --> 0:35:09.440
<v Speaker 1>just don't absolutely hate it. I just don't think we're there. No,

0:35:09.520 --> 0:35:10.040
<v Speaker 1>we're not there.

0:35:10.040 --> 0:35:12.280
<v Speaker 3>But I'm just telling you, if this is a hypothetical

0:35:12.360 --> 0:35:14.279
<v Speaker 3>question about the teams that would make college football more fun.

0:35:14.320 --> 0:35:18.120
<v Speaker 1>It would be more fun with that version. Yeah, the

0:35:18.160 --> 0:35:23.359
<v Speaker 1>weirdest answer I've ever heard this question is Michigan State. Yeah.

0:35:23.400 --> 0:35:26.080
<v Speaker 1>I didn't think about Michigan State when thinking about this answer.

0:35:26.920 --> 0:35:29.480
<v Speaker 1>That's the weirdest one that I've heard. But otherwise, you

0:35:29.520 --> 0:35:32.640
<v Speaker 1>could you could play anybody. Well, it's totally subjective, right,

0:35:32.680 --> 0:35:35.520
<v Speaker 1>It's it's who makes who did you grow up with

0:35:35.560 --> 0:35:37.839
<v Speaker 1>as good teams, And if you're fifty six, it might

0:35:37.840 --> 0:35:39.959
<v Speaker 1>not necessarily be the same answers if you're thirty six.

0:35:40.360 --> 0:35:43.319
<v Speaker 1>But to me, I want geographic balance. I want the

0:35:43.360 --> 0:35:45.960
<v Speaker 1>bigger rivalries of the sport to mean something. So I'd

0:35:45.960 --> 0:35:47.440
<v Speaker 1>love to look forward.

0:35:47.160 --> 0:35:49.000
<v Speaker 3>To and legitimately not know who's going to win the

0:35:49.040 --> 0:35:51.640
<v Speaker 3>Michigan Ohio State game or the Texas Oklahoma game, which

0:35:51.640 --> 0:35:53.400
<v Speaker 3>I guess it's been the case that's gone back and

0:35:53.400 --> 0:35:56.520
<v Speaker 3>forth some but the bigger rivalries in the sport, I want,

0:35:56.600 --> 0:35:59.160
<v Speaker 3>you know, Florida Miami, Florida State, Miami Florida, Florida State.

0:35:59.200 --> 0:36:02.759
<v Speaker 3>I want those matches up to be toss ups. Other

0:36:02.840 --> 0:36:06.760
<v Speaker 3>than that, you know, I just like good fun football

0:36:06.840 --> 0:36:10.479
<v Speaker 3>and we can watch every game. So a season isn't

0:36:10.520 --> 0:36:13.920
<v Speaker 3>necessarily more fun because this one school is good. But

0:36:14.440 --> 0:36:16.480
<v Speaker 3>if we have a bunch of interesting rivalries and we

0:36:16.520 --> 0:36:18.759
<v Speaker 3>know about the storylines and narratives and players coming up

0:36:18.760 --> 0:36:20.759
<v Speaker 3>at random places, that's good bye me too.

0:36:20.880 --> 0:36:22.680
<v Speaker 1>The interesting thing and that we're going to move on

0:36:23.360 --> 0:36:26.200
<v Speaker 1>is that when you ask people this question, if you

0:36:26.239 --> 0:36:28.359
<v Speaker 1>ask an Ohio State fan this question, if you ask

0:36:28.400 --> 0:36:32.240
<v Speaker 1>a Michigan fan this question, inevitably they will always say

0:36:32.960 --> 0:36:38.560
<v Speaker 1>their biggest rival. Sure, even despite the fact they hate them.

0:36:39.160 --> 0:36:41.279
<v Speaker 1>They will always say it's better when it's no fun.

0:36:41.480 --> 0:36:42.880
<v Speaker 1>I mean, it is fun, but I was gonna say

0:36:42.880 --> 0:36:44.600
<v Speaker 1>it's no fun to stomp a team year and year

0:36:44.640 --> 0:36:46.879
<v Speaker 1>out for me. Look on the outside, it is fun

0:36:46.920 --> 0:36:52.919
<v Speaker 1>for a while. It is fun as a novelty, right, undeniably,

0:36:53.360 --> 0:36:55.080
<v Speaker 1>and we've done it. You get the answer all the time.

0:36:55.160 --> 0:36:57.960
<v Speaker 1>I'll just speak as an Oregon fan. Oregon has rivals

0:36:58.000 --> 0:37:00.760
<v Speaker 1>with you know, rivalries of Oregon State with what with USC.

0:37:00.920 --> 0:37:06.440
<v Speaker 1>There is something nice about butterflies before kickoff, Like it's weird.

0:37:06.480 --> 0:37:08.520
<v Speaker 1>If you get to a place where you're an Ohio

0:37:08.520 --> 0:37:11.160
<v Speaker 1>State fan, you's like, well, there's gonna blow out Michigan like,

0:37:11.840 --> 0:37:14.359
<v Speaker 1>it's more fun when there is that energy in your

0:37:14.400 --> 0:37:19.080
<v Speaker 1>living room, in the stadium, whatever. And I think USC

0:37:19.239 --> 0:37:21.120
<v Speaker 1>Miami or my answers with that, I just I don't

0:37:21.160 --> 0:37:24.719
<v Speaker 1>care if Miami is good. Jr. Seven oh seven one

0:37:24.760 --> 0:37:27.879
<v Speaker 1>of our verballers. Yeah, this is a dang question here.

0:37:28.040 --> 0:37:30.839
<v Speaker 1>I don't really have any thoughts on this. The new

0:37:31.000 --> 0:37:33.160
<v Speaker 1>PAC twelve guy, George what's his name.

0:37:34.719 --> 0:37:36.680
<v Speaker 3>I'm gonna look it up right now, is like Clavi

0:37:36.760 --> 0:37:42.080
<v Speaker 3>cough or something, Clavigal, George clavi twelve. Yeah, George Clavical, Uh,

0:37:42.800 --> 0:37:45.520
<v Speaker 3>Clai of Cli of cough Cloud. Let's go Claviical, we

0:37:45.520 --> 0:37:46.360
<v Speaker 3>can go Claviical.

0:37:46.719 --> 0:37:49.480
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, what are your thoughts on George Clavial, new PAC

0:37:49.520 --> 0:37:51.359
<v Speaker 1>twelve commissioner for those playing along at home.

0:37:52.280 --> 0:37:55.560
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, has has a background in I mean it was MGM,

0:37:55.640 --> 0:37:57.920
<v Speaker 3>it was Hulu all sorts of streaming and you know,

0:37:58.440 --> 0:38:02.479
<v Speaker 3>involved with sports rights and commonversations and contracts and from

0:38:02.560 --> 0:38:06.359
<v Speaker 3>more of the broadcast angle. I think he was in

0:38:06.520 --> 0:38:10.120
<v Speaker 3>Las Vegas with all of this stuff with MGM Entertainment,

0:38:10.600 --> 0:38:12.839
<v Speaker 3>so you know, boxing and stadiums and all that kind

0:38:12.840 --> 0:38:15.680
<v Speaker 3>of stuff. So there is that tangential connection to sports.

0:38:15.960 --> 0:38:18.680
<v Speaker 3>I mean the priorities are clear. The priorities are clear

0:38:18.840 --> 0:38:21.839
<v Speaker 3>in that it's get everybody on the same page, get

0:38:21.880 --> 0:38:25.520
<v Speaker 3>everybody aligned. In terms of vision for the conference. Competitively,

0:38:25.640 --> 0:38:29.560
<v Speaker 3>he talked about, you know, succeeding with football and men's basketball,

0:38:29.880 --> 0:38:32.960
<v Speaker 3>just because it's obvious that those two sports drive the

0:38:33.000 --> 0:38:36.560
<v Speaker 3>conference's bottom line is incredibly important. There's only so much

0:38:36.920 --> 0:38:39.440
<v Speaker 3>that a commissioner of the Pac twelve can do in

0:38:39.520 --> 0:38:43.440
<v Speaker 3>terms of making good hires at important schools for basketball

0:38:43.480 --> 0:38:47.759
<v Speaker 3>and football. But I think his background with streaming and

0:38:47.800 --> 0:38:50.920
<v Speaker 3>broadcast stuff and stadiums and helping to get the Pac

0:38:51.000 --> 0:38:52.720
<v Speaker 3>twelve on the biggest possible stages.

0:38:52.760 --> 0:38:54.239
<v Speaker 1>I mean, the.

0:38:54.200 --> 0:38:57.439
<v Speaker 3>Conference needs to win huge September games. There's nothing much

0:38:57.480 --> 0:38:59.680
<v Speaker 3>he can do to do that. You know, Oregon needs

0:38:59.719 --> 0:39:03.359
<v Speaker 3>to beat and Washington, I think is playing Michigan this year.

0:39:03.400 --> 0:39:05.880
<v Speaker 3>Oregon's playing Ohio State. And I don't think USC has

0:39:05.920 --> 0:39:08.560
<v Speaker 3>any sort of big marquee September matchups coming up. They

0:39:08.600 --> 0:39:11.359
<v Speaker 3>have Notre Dame every year, UCLA has LSU. So there's

0:39:11.400 --> 0:39:15.440
<v Speaker 3>nothing that George Clavicle can do at the moment to

0:39:15.600 --> 0:39:19.439
<v Speaker 3>drive wins and thus attention for the conference heading into

0:39:19.440 --> 0:39:22.600
<v Speaker 3>the rest of the year. But broadcast rights, getting the

0:39:22.960 --> 0:39:28.840
<v Speaker 3>conference on the biggest possible TV stages. So that's ESPN, Fox, CBS, NBC,

0:39:28.960 --> 0:39:32.960
<v Speaker 3>whoever has these rights, and you know, getting the conference

0:39:33.239 --> 0:39:35.759
<v Speaker 3>if it's a streaming package or a part streaming package. Right,

0:39:35.800 --> 0:39:38.120
<v Speaker 3>the NFL is going Thursday night Amazon full time in

0:39:38.160 --> 0:39:41.120
<v Speaker 3>a couple of years, I believe. So it's getting the

0:39:41.120 --> 0:39:44.120
<v Speaker 3>conference to a point where anybody who wants to see

0:39:44.120 --> 0:39:47.120
<v Speaker 3>a PAC twelve game doesn't just happen to have the

0:39:47.200 --> 0:39:50.880
<v Speaker 3>right cable package. That is that is going to be huge,

0:39:51.200 --> 0:39:56.000
<v Speaker 3>and the biggest games need to be played at times

0:39:56.080 --> 0:39:58.359
<v Speaker 3>where you know, I know people will watch those late

0:39:58.400 --> 0:40:00.960
<v Speaker 3>games because sometimes they're the only show on you know,

0:40:01.000 --> 0:40:04.000
<v Speaker 3>those ten o'clock eastern kicks. But if you have a

0:40:04.120 --> 0:40:08.480
<v Speaker 3>number eleven ranked UCLA playing a number nine ranked USC

0:40:08.640 --> 0:40:11.080
<v Speaker 3>at the end of the year, probably shouldn't kick off

0:40:11.080 --> 0:40:13.759
<v Speaker 3>at ten eastern, right, Like, there should be some I

0:40:13.800 --> 0:40:18.480
<v Speaker 3>think advanced strategy conversations about how to get the most

0:40:18.520 --> 0:40:23.040
<v Speaker 3>eyeballs at the best times on these teams, because it's

0:40:23.080 --> 0:40:26.160
<v Speaker 3>a you know, college football is a complete attention economy

0:40:26.360 --> 0:40:28.640
<v Speaker 3>and whatever your perception of a team is, what the

0:40:28.640 --> 0:40:30.800
<v Speaker 3>team is. If you're not watching, you don't have a perception.

0:40:30.960 --> 0:40:32.920
<v Speaker 3>So the perception right now with the PAC twelve is

0:40:32.920 --> 0:40:36.879
<v Speaker 3>that they are behind and within his powers and within

0:40:36.920 --> 0:40:40.279
<v Speaker 3>the Office's powers, they need to financially get to a

0:40:40.360 --> 0:40:42.960
<v Speaker 3>nice place, because the better the conference does financially, it's

0:40:43.120 --> 0:40:45.520
<v Speaker 3>you know, it's tied to how well the teams do financially,

0:40:45.560 --> 0:40:47.799
<v Speaker 3>and the better the teams do financially, the more money

0:40:47.840 --> 0:40:51.920
<v Speaker 3>they have to pay head coaches, upgrade facilities, pay assistant coaches,

0:40:51.960 --> 0:40:55.200
<v Speaker 3>and compete on some level with the SEC and the

0:40:55.200 --> 0:40:57.680
<v Speaker 3>Big Ten, the two conferences that are far and above

0:40:57.880 --> 0:40:58.600
<v Speaker 3>everybody else.

0:40:58.960 --> 0:41:02.280
<v Speaker 1>The example that I use a lot is when Carson

0:41:02.400 --> 0:41:06.160
<v Speaker 1>Palmer won the Heisman Trophy and Carson Palmer had a

0:41:06.160 --> 0:41:09.719
<v Speaker 1>great year. Mm hmm. Clearly he was Heisman worthy. Was

0:41:09.719 --> 0:41:13.400
<v Speaker 1>that three o two somewhere in there. Yeah, he didn't

0:41:13.880 --> 0:41:17.879
<v Speaker 1>really win the Heisman until he dismantled Notre Dame right

0:41:17.960 --> 0:41:21.640
<v Speaker 1>on national television at night. Everybody saw it. After that,

0:41:21.680 --> 0:41:23.120
<v Speaker 1>there was no question who was going to win the

0:41:23.160 --> 0:41:26.960
<v Speaker 1>Heisman Trophy. That that attention, as you said, the attention

0:41:27.080 --> 0:41:30.000
<v Speaker 1>economy of college football is big deal, and it's easy

0:41:30.040 --> 0:41:33.239
<v Speaker 1>for us on the East Coast to overlook that. And

0:41:33.320 --> 0:41:35.600
<v Speaker 1>I think for yourself. I'm on the third coast here,

0:41:35.640 --> 0:41:38.000
<v Speaker 1>you're on the third coast again. Yeah, I also think

0:41:38.080 --> 0:41:40.640
<v Speaker 1>it's it's easy for folks on the West coast to

0:41:41.120 --> 0:41:43.480
<v Speaker 1>you know, maybe not have that perspective, feel a bit

0:41:43.520 --> 0:41:47.160
<v Speaker 1>slighted by it. But the Eastern time zone drives a lot,

0:41:47.880 --> 0:41:51.400
<v Speaker 1>especially in terms of you know, perception. So yeah, I

0:41:51.440 --> 0:41:52.960
<v Speaker 1>hope he's able to turn it around. I don't know

0:41:53.040 --> 0:41:57.080
<v Speaker 1>much about George Clavicle, but seems.

0:41:56.760 --> 0:42:00.160
<v Speaker 3>Like a good guy. I thought his press conference, which

0:42:00.239 --> 0:42:02.319
<v Speaker 3>ultimately means nothing, was pretty good. I thought he did

0:42:02.320 --> 0:42:04.400
<v Speaker 3>a pretty good job. It was pretty direct and transparent.

0:42:04.440 --> 0:42:08.080
<v Speaker 3>I mean, here's the other thing. Who has opinions about

0:42:08.080 --> 0:42:11.920
<v Speaker 3>the following coaches west or east of Salt Lake City

0:42:12.480 --> 0:42:21.279
<v Speaker 3>Clay Helton, Jonathan Smith, Nick Rolovich, Justin Wilcox, David Shaw, Jedfish,

0:42:21.600 --> 0:42:26.799
<v Speaker 3>like Carl Durrell, like a lot of I mean, the

0:42:26.840 --> 0:42:30.160
<v Speaker 3>consistent part of the sport is the profile of your

0:42:30.200 --> 0:42:35.520
<v Speaker 3>conference's coaches, and right now, there's not a lot moving

0:42:35.560 --> 0:42:37.200
<v Speaker 3>the needle on the West Coast in terms of coaches.

0:42:37.200 --> 0:42:39.520
<v Speaker 3>And that can change with consistent winning, and that can

0:42:39.600 --> 0:42:42.799
<v Speaker 3>change with creative marketing or whatever it takes. But this

0:42:42.840 --> 0:42:44.920
<v Speaker 3>is where the conference is right now in terms of

0:42:45.440 --> 0:42:50.560
<v Speaker 3>name recognition, face recognition, personality recognition. There's not a ton

0:42:51.320 --> 0:42:55.239
<v Speaker 3>for the PAC twelve to hang its hat on right now.

0:42:55.480 --> 0:42:57.760
<v Speaker 3>How much two people in Nashville or Miami or Columbus

0:42:57.760 --> 0:42:59.240
<v Speaker 3>know about Jimmy Lake nothing.

0:42:59.320 --> 0:43:02.000
<v Speaker 1>I don't know. It doesn't seem like a lot. This

0:43:02.040 --> 0:43:04.839
<v Speaker 1>is a fun question that we got from John, which

0:43:04.920 --> 0:43:08.440
<v Speaker 1>two teams could swap conferences and completely fit in with

0:43:08.480 --> 0:43:12.359
<v Speaker 1>their new conference. I have answers for this. Do you

0:43:12.400 --> 0:43:14.040
<v Speaker 1>have answers for this? I do have answers for this.

0:43:14.280 --> 0:43:16.359
<v Speaker 1>We I think we need to set some ground rules here.

0:43:16.480 --> 0:43:19.120
<v Speaker 1>It can't be like a Florida Florida State situation.

0:43:20.160 --> 0:43:24.000
<v Speaker 3>Meaning meaning if you to geographically close and similar in

0:43:24.040 --> 0:43:26.040
<v Speaker 3>some ways that it makes sense if you.

0:43:26.000 --> 0:43:29.840
<v Speaker 1>Put Florida in the SE or ASA excuse me, in

0:43:29.840 --> 0:43:33.360
<v Speaker 1>Florida State and the SEC is basically the same team.

0:43:33.800 --> 0:43:37.319
<v Speaker 1>So you can't exactly the same thing. You can't do that.

0:43:37.440 --> 0:43:39.840
<v Speaker 1>You can't consulting to both programs. I don't care. Okay,

0:43:40.200 --> 0:43:42.520
<v Speaker 1>you can't. You can't pick one that that that's that I.

0:43:42.520 --> 0:43:45.160
<v Speaker 3>Was I was going to say Clemson, South Carolina because

0:43:45.280 --> 0:43:47.799
<v Speaker 3>South Carolina will be perfect. It needs the competition South

0:43:47.840 --> 0:43:50.480
<v Speaker 3>Carolina could use. You know, you already have Carolina teams

0:43:50.480 --> 0:43:52.920
<v Speaker 3>in the ACC North Carolina, South Carolina.

0:43:53.040 --> 0:43:55.200
<v Speaker 1>So I feel like those are way too obvious. So

0:43:55.320 --> 0:43:57.480
<v Speaker 1>I started thinking about this a little bit more broadly,

0:43:58.200 --> 0:44:01.040
<v Speaker 1>and I'm looking for teams that kind of fit into

0:44:01.120 --> 0:44:05.520
<v Speaker 1>that hybrid role where school in one conference but definitely

0:44:05.920 --> 0:44:09.279
<v Speaker 1>culturally speaking, could fit into another. And it landed on

0:44:09.320 --> 0:44:13.680
<v Speaker 1>West Virginia. Ooh interesting, Yeah, on an island in the

0:44:13.680 --> 0:44:18.600
<v Speaker 1>Big Twelve, on an island in the Big Twelve. Was

0:44:18.840 --> 0:44:22.200
<v Speaker 1>in the Old School Big East, right, So there's a

0:44:22.320 --> 0:44:25.399
<v Speaker 1>bit of a cultural fit there, certainly more geographically fit

0:44:25.520 --> 0:44:30.200
<v Speaker 1>for like the ACC, let's say, culturally could fit in

0:44:30.239 --> 0:44:33.640
<v Speaker 1>with the SEC pretty well too. Sure. So West Virginia

0:44:33.680 --> 0:44:35.719
<v Speaker 1>to me feels like the ultimate wild card that we

0:44:35.800 --> 0:44:40.040
<v Speaker 1>could swap with somebody else. And you're talking about an

0:44:40.040 --> 0:44:45.400
<v Speaker 1>ACC school then geographically SEC school geographically, I think I

0:44:45.480 --> 0:44:49.920
<v Speaker 1>think you could swap West Virginia with a Clemson. Okay,

0:44:50.280 --> 0:44:53.840
<v Speaker 1>I think you could swap West Virginia with uh, what

0:44:53.880 --> 0:44:57.800
<v Speaker 1>about West Virginia and Louisville a school like a Louisville Yeah,

0:44:58.120 --> 0:45:01.319
<v Speaker 1>I think the Big Twelve. Yeah, I think you could

0:45:01.360 --> 0:45:07.400
<v Speaker 1>swap West Virginia with a school like Zuri obviously, so MISSOO.

0:45:07.600 --> 0:45:11.040
<v Speaker 3>Now, I think we can't do return two conferences if

0:45:11.080 --> 0:45:12.440
<v Speaker 3>I were to do that, if I were to do

0:45:12.480 --> 0:45:14.719
<v Speaker 3>a return to a conference that we already know that

0:45:14.760 --> 0:45:20.200
<v Speaker 3>there's some level of fit. I think Nebraska, Iowa State, Okay,

0:45:20.320 --> 0:45:24.760
<v Speaker 3>I already has the Big ten footprint, right, Nebraska returns

0:45:24.760 --> 0:45:28.560
<v Speaker 3>to the Big twelve, and I think one of the

0:45:28.560 --> 0:45:31.120
<v Speaker 3>final times those two teams played is two Big twelve teams.

0:45:31.120 --> 0:45:33.880
<v Speaker 3>It was a nine to seven game two thousand and

0:45:33.880 --> 0:45:35.759
<v Speaker 3>eight or two thousand and nine actually brought it up, Ty,

0:45:36.280 --> 0:45:39.239
<v Speaker 3>can we do an off season Divorceak? We could that

0:45:39.320 --> 0:45:40.279
<v Speaker 3>you have a seven game?

0:45:40.480 --> 0:45:41.000
<v Speaker 1>Do you have it.

0:45:42.600 --> 0:45:49.360
<v Speaker 2>Fumble, field goal, punt, punt, touchdown, punt interception, passing, touchdown, punt, punt, fumble, punt, punt, punt, fumble, fumble,

0:45:49.520 --> 0:45:54.600
<v Speaker 2>misfield goal, punt, punt, interception, punt interception, and mercifully end

0:45:54.760 --> 0:45:56.799
<v Speaker 2>of the nine seven years.

0:45:57.480 --> 0:45:59.600
<v Speaker 1>How did you pull up divorceak that quickly?

0:46:00.680 --> 0:46:05.279
<v Speaker 3>I have two hands, tie, oh, two hands, So that

0:46:05.320 --> 0:46:07.799
<v Speaker 3>would be my answer. Nebraska, I will state there. What

0:46:07.800 --> 0:46:14.120
<v Speaker 3>about Cincinnati, Syracuse? I mean sure, so Syracuse to the

0:46:14.160 --> 0:46:19.080
<v Speaker 3>American sure, it's definitely easier if you start doing this

0:46:19.239 --> 0:46:22.319
<v Speaker 3>on the group of five level. Well, yes and no,

0:46:23.520 --> 0:46:26.879
<v Speaker 3>because you still need to find a Power five team

0:46:26.880 --> 0:46:28.760
<v Speaker 3>who would fit in with a group of five conference,

0:46:28.760 --> 0:46:33.040
<v Speaker 3>which is not always the easiest and nicest thing to do.

0:46:33.800 --> 0:46:36.560
<v Speaker 3>But Syracuse is God. I look this up and I'm

0:46:36.560 --> 0:46:39.880
<v Speaker 3>trying to remember. I think they have not had two

0:46:40.040 --> 0:46:44.520
<v Speaker 3>winning seasons in a row in twenty years, So that's

0:46:44.560 --> 0:46:48.560
<v Speaker 3>where're like, Okay, maybe they're not a Power five ish program.

0:46:48.920 --> 0:46:51.640
<v Speaker 3>They didn't have last time they won three had three

0:46:51.680 --> 0:46:53.799
<v Speaker 3>winning seasons in a row was with Donovan McNabb in

0:46:53.840 --> 0:46:57.760
<v Speaker 3>the mid to late nineties. So it's not a program

0:46:57.760 --> 0:46:59.640
<v Speaker 3>that has always come through in terms of investing in

0:46:59.760 --> 0:47:01.960
<v Speaker 3>high and developing and recruiting.

0:47:01.480 --> 0:47:02.400
<v Speaker 1>And winning on the field.

0:47:02.800 --> 0:47:06.959
<v Speaker 3>So maybe they're not a perennial fit with a Power

0:47:07.000 --> 0:47:09.399
<v Speaker 3>five conference. Whereas Cincinnati has done it as a Big

0:47:09.440 --> 0:47:11.759
<v Speaker 3>East team, they're doing it as a group of five team.

0:47:12.200 --> 0:47:17.719
<v Speaker 3>And I mean, I think Cincinnati would be a divisional

0:47:17.760 --> 0:47:20.719
<v Speaker 3>favorite in the current ACC if they're not in the Atlantic,

0:47:20.800 --> 0:47:21.920
<v Speaker 3>right probably.

0:47:21.920 --> 0:47:24.000
<v Speaker 1>I just think West Virginia is the key. I think

0:47:24.080 --> 0:47:26.200
<v Speaker 1>you could you go a bunch of different ways on

0:47:26.239 --> 0:47:27.160
<v Speaker 1>a West Virginia.

0:47:27.800 --> 0:47:33.440
<v Speaker 3>What about Notre Dame Maryland? Yeah, Notre Dame in the

0:47:33.480 --> 0:47:36.520
<v Speaker 3>Big ten, Maryland back in the acc' if that's a

0:47:36.560 --> 0:47:40.800
<v Speaker 3>return exercise. Yeah, No, I don't like Maryland in the

0:47:40.800 --> 0:47:44.279
<v Speaker 3>Big ten. No, it feels weird still. I Maryland has

0:47:44.280 --> 0:47:46.280
<v Speaker 3>been in the Big ten for years upon years.

0:47:46.400 --> 0:47:49.120
<v Speaker 1>It feels weird. And I still think to myself, when's

0:47:49.160 --> 0:47:51.400
<v Speaker 1>Maryland playing Virginia.

0:47:51.360 --> 0:47:54.800
<v Speaker 3>When's Maryland playing NC State? Like it just it doesn't

0:47:55.200 --> 0:47:57.640
<v Speaker 3>fit for me, tie, No, it just doesn't.

0:47:57.920 --> 0:47:58.040
<v Speaker 1>No.

0:47:58.280 --> 0:48:00.640
<v Speaker 3>So, if we're counting Notre Dame as an CC school,

0:48:00.760 --> 0:48:01.840
<v Speaker 3>which we kind of can.

0:48:02.600 --> 0:48:07.200
<v Speaker 1>All right, let's go to let's go to here you go.

0:48:07.880 --> 0:48:12.200
<v Speaker 1>Speaking of specific teams, can Arizona State realistically win the

0:48:12.200 --> 0:48:16.319
<v Speaker 1>PAC twelve this year? Yes? From Devin so, a lot

0:48:16.360 --> 0:48:19.919
<v Speaker 1>of experience coming back. They've got a good defense. Eight

0:48:19.960 --> 0:48:21.160
<v Speaker 1>starters are returning.

0:48:21.360 --> 0:48:23.880
<v Speaker 3>Both of their corners are legit. I mean they're probably

0:48:23.920 --> 0:48:25.919
<v Speaker 3>like fourth or fifth round guys, but their NFL types

0:48:25.960 --> 0:48:26.279
<v Speaker 3>they're good.

0:48:26.320 --> 0:48:28.960
<v Speaker 1>I like Chase Lucas. Yeah, that's good. They do not

0:48:29.040 --> 0:48:33.080
<v Speaker 1>play Oregon in conference play, which is a bonus. So

0:48:33.200 --> 0:48:35.600
<v Speaker 1>I think there is plenty of reason to be excited

0:48:35.600 --> 0:48:38.880
<v Speaker 1>about ASU. I happen to see that the over under

0:48:38.920 --> 0:48:43.880
<v Speaker 1>four win total is nine, which is a okay sizable number.

0:48:44.360 --> 0:48:47.840
<v Speaker 1>I think nine would imply that, yeah, they're a contender

0:48:47.920 --> 0:48:50.399
<v Speaker 1>of some sort. Nine wins is a good season. YEP.

0:48:50.560 --> 0:48:58.040
<v Speaker 1>So at least from that standpoint, Vegas would sort of agree. Realistically,

0:48:58.239 --> 0:49:00.160
<v Speaker 1>could they Yeah, realistically sure.

0:49:01.440 --> 0:49:05.839
<v Speaker 3>They are a sort of little thing program where some

0:49:05.880 --> 0:49:09.080
<v Speaker 3>of the games that they've lost under Herm Edwards is like, man,

0:49:09.640 --> 0:49:12.640
<v Speaker 3>they're just not doing the little things to win winnable games.

0:49:12.680 --> 0:49:15.520
<v Speaker 3>Like last year against UCLA, I think they fumbled twice

0:49:15.560 --> 0:49:17.000
<v Speaker 3>in the red zone and they had two red zone

0:49:17.000 --> 0:49:20.479
<v Speaker 3>turnovers and lost that game. Like fumbled snaps, like very

0:49:20.520 --> 0:49:22.920
<v Speaker 3>fixable things. And I know last year was very strange.

0:49:23.280 --> 0:49:25.799
<v Speaker 3>But that's the issue to me because I like Jayden

0:49:25.800 --> 0:49:27.880
<v Speaker 3>and Daniels. I don't know if I love but I

0:49:27.920 --> 0:49:30.759
<v Speaker 3>really like Jayden Daniels. I like the running backs. They've

0:49:30.760 --> 0:49:34.000
<v Speaker 3>recruited at receiver pretty well. They've got some big bodies there.

0:49:35.440 --> 0:49:38.080
<v Speaker 3>They're in a really nice spot because there's no obvious

0:49:38.560 --> 0:49:42.760
<v Speaker 3>between who is it Chaz Brewer starting for Utah quarterback

0:49:42.800 --> 0:49:46.200
<v Speaker 3>this year? I think that's who starting a quarterback for Utah,

0:49:46.440 --> 0:49:50.719
<v Speaker 3>So that worries me the inconsistencies of USC looking as

0:49:50.760 --> 0:49:52.520
<v Speaker 3>bad as they looked early on last year against the

0:49:52.560 --> 0:49:56.040
<v Speaker 3>Arizona schools. I think UCLA, and we have another question

0:49:56.080 --> 0:49:58.440
<v Speaker 3>here about Chip Kelly in a hot seat, but I

0:49:58.440 --> 0:50:02.360
<v Speaker 3>think UCLA is quietly pretty scary in the South. I

0:50:02.480 --> 0:50:05.400
<v Speaker 3>am high on Newcla right now. I don't know how high,

0:50:05.680 --> 0:50:07.280
<v Speaker 3>but I am high on them. But that is to say,

0:50:07.560 --> 0:50:11.279
<v Speaker 3>everybody kind of seems like at their best outside of

0:50:11.600 --> 0:50:14.080
<v Speaker 3>right now Colorado and Arizona, but the other four schools

0:50:14.400 --> 0:50:17.360
<v Speaker 3>in the division, ASU and the LA schools and Utah

0:50:17.600 --> 0:50:20.040
<v Speaker 3>there b plus a minus at their best. There's nobody

0:50:20.040 --> 0:50:23.279
<v Speaker 3>who's obviously head and shoulders above, even though USC has

0:50:23.320 --> 0:50:25.480
<v Speaker 3>received the lion's share of the hype right now in

0:50:25.520 --> 0:50:29.480
<v Speaker 3>the South. So yeah, absolutely they could win the conference

0:50:29.520 --> 0:50:31.560
<v Speaker 3>because I don't think there's anybody in the North right now.

0:50:31.640 --> 0:50:33.320
<v Speaker 3>Oregon is in a really good place, but they don't

0:50:33.360 --> 0:50:37.400
<v Speaker 3>necessarily have the obvious answer at quarterback, So it seems

0:50:37.440 --> 0:50:41.799
<v Speaker 3>to a really nice place. If they start checking the

0:50:41.880 --> 0:50:44.799
<v Speaker 3>little thing boxes throughout the season.

0:50:44.560 --> 0:50:48.440
<v Speaker 1>It seems totally feasible to me. Yeah, certainly in the South.

0:50:49.280 --> 0:50:53.439
<v Speaker 1>Certainly in the South. It helps everybody has that achilles heel.

0:50:53.680 --> 0:50:56.520
<v Speaker 1>Everybody's got that Achilles heel. And it does help that

0:50:56.560 --> 0:51:00.239
<v Speaker 1>they do not play Oregon in conference play, that they

0:51:00.239 --> 0:51:02.160
<v Speaker 1>got a bunch of guys back on defense. It's always

0:51:02.239 --> 0:51:05.640
<v Speaker 1>a great building block. Got a good quarterback. So I

0:51:05.640 --> 0:51:08.239
<v Speaker 1>don't know, and I think it Limb from lim Win.

0:51:08.360 --> 0:51:11.280
<v Speaker 1>You always like that Arizona last year against the rival

0:51:11.320 --> 0:51:14.760
<v Speaker 1>Limb from lim seventy to seven or whatever it happened

0:51:14.800 --> 0:51:17.839
<v Speaker 1>to be. It was somewhere in there, staying out west frotastic.

0:51:17.920 --> 0:51:21.040
<v Speaker 1>You mentioned the Chip Kelly question. How hot is Chip

0:51:21.120 --> 0:51:25.120
<v Speaker 1>Kelly's seat at UCLA? So you noted here thank you

0:51:25.160 --> 0:51:29.880
<v Speaker 1>for doing this brutal back half of the schedule at Washington, Oregon,

0:51:30.000 --> 0:51:33.399
<v Speaker 1>at Utah, They've got Colorado, closed out the year at

0:51:33.480 --> 0:51:35.600
<v Speaker 1>USC and then home against cow So it's not an

0:51:35.640 --> 0:51:38.719
<v Speaker 1>easy stretch. Was it two years ago you thought Chip

0:51:38.800 --> 0:51:40.640
<v Speaker 1>Kelly was done? You thought he was going to be

0:51:40.680 --> 0:51:44.959
<v Speaker 1>like one year and done, you thought, and his heart

0:51:45.000 --> 0:51:48.960
<v Speaker 1>was not that. It feels like despite the fact that

0:51:51.239 --> 0:51:53.880
<v Speaker 1>you know schedules have been tough, it feels like they've

0:51:54.320 --> 0:51:56.640
<v Speaker 1>gotten better or there have been more reasons to be

0:51:56.760 --> 0:52:01.279
<v Speaker 1>optimistic about UCLA football. Sure, Yeah, they nearly beat They

0:52:01.280 --> 0:52:03.360
<v Speaker 1>gave away the SC game. They nearly beat Oregon with

0:52:03.400 --> 0:52:07.120
<v Speaker 1>their backup quarterback. They beat ASU. There are pieces absolutely

0:52:07.160 --> 0:52:11.040
<v Speaker 1>there for UCLA. I'm dtr has been there forever at quarterback.

0:52:11.520 --> 0:52:13.600
<v Speaker 1>Their line has gotten better. They have a couple of

0:52:13.680 --> 0:52:17.640
<v Speaker 1>legit dudes up front. On defense, their secondary has come along.

0:52:18.560 --> 0:52:20.680
<v Speaker 1>To me, the big weakness with UCLA is sort of

0:52:20.680 --> 0:52:22.239
<v Speaker 1>the same thing that we've talked about with a couple

0:52:22.239 --> 0:52:24.600
<v Speaker 1>of other schools, like, for example, Iowa State. Who's in

0:52:24.600 --> 0:52:28.759
<v Speaker 1>a much better position than UCLA. But who is pushing you?

0:52:29.040 --> 0:52:31.840
<v Speaker 1>Who is pushing on the UCLA roster? Defense? Is in

0:52:31.920 --> 0:52:34.480
<v Speaker 1>the PAC twelve down the field? Who is that gravitational

0:52:34.600 --> 0:52:38.360
<v Speaker 1>guy for UCLA? On offense, they have decent players. They

0:52:38.400 --> 0:52:40.200
<v Speaker 1>have good players. I like their their tight end. I

0:52:40.200 --> 0:52:43.920
<v Speaker 1>think it's Greg Dulcech something like that. I always trust

0:52:43.920 --> 0:52:48.360
<v Speaker 1>a good Greg. But who is who is that lethal weapon?

0:52:49.640 --> 0:52:51.759
<v Speaker 1>I don't see that with UCLA, And that's that's the

0:52:51.800 --> 0:52:54.360
<v Speaker 1>concern for me. If we're talking about, Okay, has UCLA

0:52:54.440 --> 0:52:56.760
<v Speaker 1>arrived as UCLA that team ready to win the South?

0:52:57.120 --> 0:53:01.799
<v Speaker 3>The answer is maybe, But USC has better receivers. Yeah,

0:53:02.400 --> 0:53:04.560
<v Speaker 3>Utah had the better defense, and his better depth and

0:53:04.719 --> 0:53:07.719
<v Speaker 3>is recruited to a system for far longer. USC is

0:53:07.760 --> 0:53:10.759
<v Speaker 3>a higher level talent. ASU is higher level talent probably,

0:53:11.080 --> 0:53:14.840
<v Speaker 3>but UCLA has the most proven high level coach.

0:53:14.719 --> 0:53:17.479
<v Speaker 1>Of all of those places. And it's really interesting too

0:53:17.960 --> 0:53:21.759
<v Speaker 1>that that would be the problem for Chip Kelly, right

0:53:22.320 --> 0:53:25.400
<v Speaker 1>if you love Zach Sharboney, Yeah, but not not having

0:53:25.400 --> 0:53:28.680
<v Speaker 1>the gravitational player, not having that downfield, not having just

0:53:28.760 --> 0:53:33.680
<v Speaker 1>that guy. Now, he made those guys at Oregon. M hm,

0:53:33.800 --> 0:53:36.160
<v Speaker 1>that was why we liked NFL types. Now they weren't

0:53:36.239 --> 0:53:37.279
<v Speaker 1>NFL types, But it.

0:53:37.239 --> 0:53:39.359
<v Speaker 3>Was Brailan Addison, it was Josh Hoff, it was Jeff Mail,

0:53:39.360 --> 0:53:41.680
<v Speaker 3>these guys like who were just awesome in college and

0:53:42.760 --> 0:53:45.719
<v Speaker 3>it doesn't seem like UCLA has even those level guys.

0:53:45.480 --> 0:53:47.200
<v Speaker 1>But figured out a way to put those guys in

0:53:47.280 --> 0:53:50.839
<v Speaker 1>space and make exciting plays. Yeah, I mean they had

0:53:50.880 --> 0:53:55.280
<v Speaker 1>d Anthony Thomas and Michael James. Those were Heisman caliber

0:53:55.320 --> 0:53:59.040
<v Speaker 1>all purpose and running back weapons that look, it's very

0:53:59.040 --> 0:54:01.319
<v Speaker 1>tough because it was a very specific program he ran

0:54:01.320 --> 0:54:02.920
<v Speaker 1>at Oregon and he was sort of ahead of the

0:54:02.920 --> 0:54:05.160
<v Speaker 1>curve offensively, and now a lot of places have caught up,

0:54:05.520 --> 0:54:08.879
<v Speaker 1>but those players are available at UCLA. It's a matter

0:54:08.960 --> 0:54:13.040
<v Speaker 1>of Chip Kelly finding convincing developing, crafting a system around them.

0:54:13.080 --> 0:54:14.560
<v Speaker 1>I think they're gonna be in a good place this year.

0:54:14.600 --> 0:54:17.279
<v Speaker 1>I think they're going to be a B plus team. Yeah,

0:54:17.280 --> 0:54:19.200
<v Speaker 1>but I don't think his seat is all that hot,

0:54:19.360 --> 0:54:20.920
<v Speaker 1>nor do I think I don't think so either. To

0:54:20.960 --> 0:54:23.399
<v Speaker 1>the point of the question, I think it's I think

0:54:23.400 --> 0:54:25.520
<v Speaker 1>it's neuche ti. I don't think it's a cold seat.

0:54:26.000 --> 0:54:29.080
<v Speaker 3>I think UCLA fans and administrators want to be and

0:54:29.239 --> 0:54:32.360
<v Speaker 3>I don't believe this was the ad Martin Jarmond was

0:54:32.360 --> 0:54:36.040
<v Speaker 3>not the guy who hired chip Kelly. But if they

0:54:36.040 --> 0:54:40.360
<v Speaker 3>want UCLA to be nine in three ish pretty often,

0:54:40.880 --> 0:54:43.520
<v Speaker 3>but nothing wild, but they want him to be good.

0:54:43.520 --> 0:54:45.840
<v Speaker 3>They want him to beat USC every so often. I

0:54:45.840 --> 0:54:48.960
<v Speaker 3>don't think there are crazy expectations right now. But when

0:54:48.960 --> 0:54:50.839
<v Speaker 3>you pay chip Kelly what they're paying him, and when

0:54:50.840 --> 0:54:52.520
<v Speaker 3>he brings the profile that he brings, there is that

0:54:52.600 --> 0:54:56.520
<v Speaker 3>expectation that they're not, you know, embarrassing themselves. And it's

0:54:56.560 --> 0:54:59.479
<v Speaker 3>clear that they've improved over the course of his time there,

0:54:59.640 --> 0:55:03.319
<v Speaker 3>just in a probably frustrating way. There've been you know,

0:55:03.480 --> 0:55:05.800
<v Speaker 3>game they've been the COVID stuff, there's been the games

0:55:06.040 --> 0:55:07.600
<v Speaker 3>where they you know, I think they started the season

0:55:07.600 --> 0:55:09.680
<v Speaker 3>out a couple of years ago and Cincinnati down like

0:55:09.719 --> 0:55:13.280
<v Speaker 3>twenty five players, like they just they need to build

0:55:13.400 --> 0:55:18.280
<v Speaker 3>that roster of eighty five capable, pretty good college football players.

0:55:18.280 --> 0:55:21.239
<v Speaker 3>And hopefully it's now there, but it certainly wasn't those

0:55:21.239 --> 0:55:22.040
<v Speaker 3>first couple of years.

0:55:23.160 --> 0:55:26.520
<v Speaker 1>Let's go one more football and then two off topic

0:55:26.880 --> 0:55:29.120
<v Speaker 1>to close, So sure, where are we going? You get

0:55:29.120 --> 0:55:29.479
<v Speaker 1>to pick?

0:55:30.560 --> 0:55:36.439
<v Speaker 3>Okay, if if Clem's in Ohio State were to lose

0:55:36.480 --> 0:55:40.400
<v Speaker 3>any game in conference play, who would it be against?

0:55:40.680 --> 0:55:43.640
<v Speaker 1>Just live happy? Wants to know, Just live happy, Just

0:55:43.719 --> 0:55:48.200
<v Speaker 1>live happy. It it's a far easier question on the

0:55:48.200 --> 0:55:50.759
<v Speaker 1>Ohio State side than it is on the times In side,

0:55:50.800 --> 0:55:54.520
<v Speaker 1>just because the Big Ten has more killers. The Big

0:55:54.560 --> 0:55:56.360
<v Speaker 1>Ten East is tough.

0:55:56.840 --> 0:56:01.239
<v Speaker 3>Are there any sandwich situations for Ohio State or I

0:56:01.320 --> 0:56:04.000
<v Speaker 3>mean getting a bye before playing Ohio State at home?

0:56:05.920 --> 0:56:08.040
<v Speaker 1>I'm looking at Ohio State schedule, so I don't know

0:56:08.040 --> 0:56:12.040
<v Speaker 1>about the others, but from their standpoint, I see no

0:56:12.160 --> 0:56:15.760
<v Speaker 1>sandwiches here. From their standpoint, at least on the conference side,

0:56:16.080 --> 0:56:19.719
<v Speaker 1>it's smooth sailing unless you're counting the Minnesota game in

0:56:19.760 --> 0:56:24.000
<v Speaker 1>Week one, which we could have a conversation. Minnesota's got

0:56:24.080 --> 0:56:27.560
<v Speaker 1>a season. Quarterback defense is probably gonna be an issue

0:56:27.640 --> 0:56:32.000
<v Speaker 1>this year to Minneapolis, but there's enough talent there. It's

0:56:32.080 --> 0:56:36.719
<v Speaker 1>opening week, it's a night game on Fox. Maybe you

0:56:36.840 --> 0:56:40.759
<v Speaker 1>catch maybe you catch him. It's either at Minnesota week one.

0:56:41.120 --> 0:56:44.000
<v Speaker 1>It's certainly not anybody else until you get to like

0:56:44.960 --> 0:56:47.080
<v Speaker 1>late October. Yeah, early to.

0:56:47.040 --> 0:56:50.759
<v Speaker 3>Late after Minnesota has developed some nice receivers lightly now,

0:56:50.960 --> 0:56:55.600
<v Speaker 3>So Minnesota is a conversation at Indiana and it's a

0:56:55.600 --> 0:56:59.440
<v Speaker 3>look ahead spot. Okay, head spot at Indiana could have

0:56:59.520 --> 0:57:01.520
<v Speaker 3>that conference station. Also look at a head spot with

0:57:01.520 --> 0:57:04.920
<v Speaker 3>Penn State on deck. Yeah, but Indiana scared them enough

0:57:05.000 --> 0:57:07.319
<v Speaker 3>last year. And Ohio State has a buye before the

0:57:07.360 --> 0:57:09.560
<v Speaker 3>Hoo Hoo Hoosiers. So that doesn't really move me.

0:57:10.520 --> 0:57:14.200
<v Speaker 1>At Michigan to close out the year, I No, I

0:57:14.200 --> 0:57:16.280
<v Speaker 1>don't think Michigan State's a bodyblow team right now. The

0:57:16.280 --> 0:57:20.680
<v Speaker 1>week before now, I'd say in order, it's at Minnesota

0:57:20.680 --> 0:57:24.360
<v Speaker 1>to open the air, and then at Indiana Penn State

0:57:24.680 --> 0:57:27.720
<v Speaker 1>i'llween weekend. No, Penn State doesn't do them for me.

0:57:27.840 --> 0:57:31.560
<v Speaker 3>In Columbus, either Sean Clifford or a new quarterback not

0:57:31.640 --> 0:57:32.280
<v Speaker 3>as much.

0:57:32.320 --> 0:57:34.680
<v Speaker 1>You could squint though, and you could make a case

0:57:34.720 --> 0:57:36.880
<v Speaker 1>for Penn State. Yeah, I mean you could ugg lead

0:57:36.920 --> 0:57:39.760
<v Speaker 1>up games with Ohio State, but not this version of one.

0:57:39.800 --> 0:57:43.360
<v Speaker 1>You could. You could squint and come up with Michigan.

0:57:44.440 --> 0:57:47.720
<v Speaker 1>I don't know who you're gonna squint and find. On

0:57:47.760 --> 0:57:50.760
<v Speaker 1>the Clemson side, what's there?

0:57:50.800 --> 0:57:52.520
<v Speaker 3>Do they have sandwiches? Do you have their schedule in

0:57:52.520 --> 0:57:53.960
<v Speaker 3>front of you? I'm pulling there them up right now.

0:57:55.000 --> 0:58:01.200
<v Speaker 3>Not really, so we're coming up with squint teams. Not

0:58:01.360 --> 0:58:06.800
<v Speaker 3>really at pit the week before Florida State, but otherwise

0:58:06.800 --> 0:58:07.880
<v Speaker 3>there's no sandwich there.

0:58:07.960 --> 0:58:12.400
<v Speaker 1>Look at the schedule. No, the toughest game on this

0:58:12.440 --> 0:58:14.200
<v Speaker 1>schedule is Week one.

0:58:14.200 --> 0:58:16.680
<v Speaker 3>I mean NC State took a week a step forward

0:58:17.000 --> 0:58:21.000
<v Speaker 3>last year from a crazy down twenty nineteen, and it's

0:58:21.040 --> 0:58:23.160
<v Speaker 3>on the road. It's not really let down look ahead,

0:58:23.160 --> 0:58:24.160
<v Speaker 3>but it is on the road.

0:58:24.640 --> 0:58:27.080
<v Speaker 1>I don't know, I'm just the toughest game on this

0:58:27.120 --> 0:58:30.720
<v Speaker 1>schedule is Week one against Georgia. That is not an

0:58:30.720 --> 0:58:33.920
<v Speaker 1>answer to who in conference could be Clemson.

0:58:36.160 --> 0:58:39.439
<v Speaker 3>The best quarterbacks on Clemson schedule, I mean the best

0:58:39.440 --> 0:58:40.040
<v Speaker 3>one is JD.

0:58:40.160 --> 0:58:43.360
<v Speaker 1>Daniels. But on the on the acc side of things,

0:58:43.920 --> 0:58:50.120
<v Speaker 1>it's what Mackenzie Milton, it's Michale Cunningham, It's Yeh Malak.

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<v Speaker 1>That's it. That's it. Those are the two guys.

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<v Speaker 3>That's unless you're like a Kenny pick a guy. No

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<v Speaker 3>South Carolina starting a new guy.

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<v Speaker 1>My answer is pit My answer is pit God and

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<v Speaker 1>they just slaughtered pit early killed him. My answer, I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know who else to answer with.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, somebody asked a question about what Florida State's ceiling is.

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<v Speaker 3>If Mackenzie Milton is the absolute like explosion that he

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<v Speaker 3>could could have been at UCF that he has been

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<v Speaker 3>at UCF, what Florida State's ceiling is? But man, Florida

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<v Speaker 3>Stake got pushed around way too much. On defense, they did.

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<v Speaker 3>They hit the portal hard. There are pieces on offense.

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<v Speaker 3>Mackenzie Milton is an upgrade over any quarterback they've played recently.

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<v Speaker 3>When he is McKenzie Milton, he is McKenzie Milton physically.

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<v Speaker 3>They lost key pieces on that defense last year that

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<v Speaker 3>wasn't even that good. But no, they're another team that

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<v Speaker 3>doesn't have the are No, they're no scaries on the

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<v Speaker 3>outside for Florida State right now. They ran the ball

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<v Speaker 3>pretty well, but you need you need to push Clemson

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<v Speaker 3>around in the passing game to really really stand a chance.

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<v Speaker 3>That's when Clemson is lost, when when somebody's able to

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<v Speaker 3>match or exceed their speed and it just doesn't seem

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<v Speaker 3>like that's Florida State. So I'm removing them from the

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<v Speaker 3>conversation right now. But yeah, it's yeah, it has to

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<v Speaker 3>be situational. It has to be you know, DJU is

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<v Speaker 3>so down after getting confused and drilled by Georgia early

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<v Speaker 3>and maybe NC State later in the month. Is you

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<v Speaker 3>know able to be that team to finally take them

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<v Speaker 3>down in the ACC But otherwise I don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>We have four off topic questions here that we can

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<v Speaker 1>rifle through very quickly. Are you're getting Let's get through

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<v Speaker 1>all of them. Okay, these the first two are for you. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>what kind of pans of stones are you using for

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<v Speaker 1>the conventional pizza oven?

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<v Speaker 3>Go from my conventional kitchen oven. I use a baking steal.

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<v Speaker 3>I think it's nerd Chef is the brand, But any

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<v Speaker 3>of the steels will do because they retain I mean

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<v Speaker 3>it's thermal mass tie. You can go on and on

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<v Speaker 3>about this, but they retain and conduct heat better than

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<v Speaker 3>the ceramic stones. What do you want to know? He said,

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<v Speaker 3>steeler stone? Is that what he asked?

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<v Speaker 1>He said, what kind of pans or stone? Oh in

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<v Speaker 1>the pants?

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<v Speaker 3>I use a Lloyd pan for the Detroit style pan pies.

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<v Speaker 3>Lloyd Llow or excuse me, yd available on the should

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<v Speaker 3>be on Amazon.

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<v Speaker 1>They're really good. They're anandized aluminum. Rank your top five

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<v Speaker 1>pizzas to make in which college football team is most

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<v Speaker 1>like said pizza.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't have a comparison. Just give me clacific teams.

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<v Speaker 3>But I can tell you that if you want me

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<v Speaker 3>to make analogs and analogies between the pizza making process and

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<v Speaker 3>building a program, I most certainly can tie sourcing ingredients,

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<v Speaker 3>paying attention to the process, not getting down on yourself early.

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<v Speaker 3>A lot of comparisons there. I really I don't go

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<v Speaker 3>too complicated with my pizzas and pizza toppings. I'm very

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<v Speaker 3>focused on getting my dough right in terms of how

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<v Speaker 3>wet the dough is, in terms of how how long

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<v Speaker 3>I let it sit in the fridge. That's where my

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<v Speaker 3>obsession lies. So my favorite pizza is probably I make

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<v Speaker 3>one with pepperoni shaved garlic. I have a garlic mandolin

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<v Speaker 3>tie and a spicy honey drizzle. That to me is

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<v Speaker 3>a really nice combination of salty and spicy and sweetness

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<v Speaker 3>from the garlic and the honey. That works really well

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<v Speaker 3>with pizza. So yeah, pepperoni, garlic, hot honey, sassy molassie

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<v Speaker 3>sweet sassy molasses, spicy sweet salty works really well. You know,

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<v Speaker 3>get the fat from the cheese and the acid from

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<v Speaker 3>the tomato sauce.

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<v Speaker 1>It's wonderful. Bort. If you have bed sheets made out

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<v Speaker 1>of cold cuts, what will the cold cuts be? I

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<v Speaker 1>go turkey. I always go turkey.

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<v Speaker 3>I think it's a terrible answer. Tie, of course, what

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<v Speaker 3>do you want out of your bed sheet? Ultimately I

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<v Speaker 3>want to say you can only select one cold cut.

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<v Speaker 1>I want to stay warm.

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<v Speaker 3>You want to stay warm, you want to be comfortable,

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<v Speaker 3>but you also maybe want a little bit of breathe ability,

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<v Speaker 3>seasonal comfort.

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<v Speaker 1>Right, So, and you're talking just sheet.

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<v Speaker 3>He didn't mention comforter Now bit a sheet get in

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<v Speaker 3>because that's the similar texture. Lady Gaga wore like a

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<v Speaker 3>roast beef thing once, didn't she?

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<v Speaker 1>She did, so roast beef is not a bad answer.

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<v Speaker 1>Roast beef is pretty smooth. You've seen that used in

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<v Speaker 1>a practical application. That's the only reason I bring it up.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't feel like roast beef breathes no. Well, no,

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<v Speaker 3>because it is a fattier cold cut turkey is not

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<v Speaker 3>a bad answer. I just if we're talking cold cuts,

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<v Speaker 3>you're either there's a there's a grittiness to turkey, to

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<v Speaker 3>roast turkey, which I love on a sandwich, and then

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<v Speaker 3>smoke turkey's smoother, but it also strikes me as a

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<v Speaker 3>little bit more oily.

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<v Speaker 1>It's but it's not that oily. If you get like

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<v Speaker 1>just regular sliced turkey, it's not that oily, okay, as

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<v Speaker 1>compared to something like a salami sama, and there's a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of fat, you're gonna get greasier, you know what

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<v Speaker 1>I mean?

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<v Speaker 3>Sheets, Yeah, for sure. No, that's a much higher fact content.

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<v Speaker 3>My answer is probably pershudo. I think there is a

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<v Speaker 3>delicate softness to pershudo. I think it would breathe well

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<v Speaker 3>because it's cut pretty thick. There's a lot of salt

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<v Speaker 3>in preshudo. There's a lot of salty texture. Though with this,

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<v Speaker 3>Oh so you're saying it's pulling pulling liquid out of

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<v Speaker 3>your skin, Yeah, I think I'm still gonna stick with

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<v Speaker 3>pershudo because some of your your other porks are thicker cut,

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<v Speaker 3>your SOAPROSDA, your ca I mean, Capacla wouldn't be bad either.

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<v Speaker 1>If you're in a humid climate, maybe you go pershudo.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I think protrudo is my answer that that strikes

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<v Speaker 3>me as the silkiest of the cold cut options.

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<v Speaker 1>I think I go Turkey. I think I go I

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<v Speaker 1>think I keep it simple, I.

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<v Speaker 3>Go Turkey when I talked into a thinly shaved ham

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<v Speaker 3>as well. Okay, final one here from Dan, one of

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<v Speaker 3>our trust for ballers. What's your favorite streaming service? He says,

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<v Speaker 3>I consider HBO in necessity, but Netflix probably has the

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<v Speaker 3>most new content, Disney Plus has the most relevant catalog culturally,

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<v Speaker 3>and Amazon Prime has some real bangers.

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<v Speaker 1>I argue a.

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<v Speaker 3>Very easy answer with this. So we're saying if the

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<v Speaker 3>examples that Dan used good friend of the show, Dan

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<v Speaker 3>Klobacar with a dicey mustache, I would say, if he

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<v Speaker 3>still has it. Yeah, that's true if we are eliminating

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<v Speaker 3>live sports, because some of these, like what does Hulu,

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<v Speaker 3>They're a streaming service and I believe they have live

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<v Speaker 3>TV and live sports. So if we're just talking about

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<v Speaker 3>a streaming service with non live programming. I think the

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<v Speaker 3>easy answer if we're looking at it in terms of

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<v Speaker 3>if you are to be locked in a room for

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<v Speaker 3>a year, which would leave you the most satisfied in

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<v Speaker 3>terms of variety and depth of catalog, does that make

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<v Speaker 3>sense it would be Netflix. I think it's HBO Max

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<v Speaker 3>because there are so you have endless high quality series.

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<v Speaker 3>Right if you haven't seen True Detective, if you haven't

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<v Speaker 3>seen The Wire, if you haven't seen Oz, if you

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<v Speaker 3>haven't seen the Sopranos, Like you have the Prestige television,

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<v Speaker 3>you have the movies. Not a sponsor, HBO Max could

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<v Speaker 3>be a sponsor.

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<v Speaker 1>I wanted to because.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm selling that out of them advertising at solidverble dot com.

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<v Speaker 3>They also have the They have some of like random

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<v Speaker 3>series is that are on other networks because they have

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<v Speaker 3>the same parent companies, so like Rick and Morty. I

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<v Speaker 3>think Friends is on HBO Max now so in terms

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<v Speaker 3>of series, and they have movies. So I have been

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<v Speaker 3>pretty thrilled with my HBO Max streaming experience and variety.

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<v Speaker 1>I just feel like you get more from Netflix. There's more.

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<v Speaker 1>This is great, more variety, and I agree that the

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<v Speaker 1>highs are definitely higher with HBO, But lately I've been

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<v Speaker 1>getting into those like B minus movies that are Netflix

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<v Speaker 1>only that are just good enough, Like there's a Louilewis

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<v Speaker 1>in all of them. There's a little bit of Hallmark

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<v Speaker 1>Channel there where there's a formula and they don't veer

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<v Speaker 1>from it, and the movies are only going to be

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<v Speaker 1>so good, but they're good enough to keep you entertained.

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<v Speaker 1>So for my money, Netflix, Netflix has anything you're into

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<v Speaker 1>more often than that doesn't have.

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<v Speaker 3>They don't have the well, I guess it depends on

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<v Speaker 3>what you're into, but I don't think they have necessarily.

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<v Speaker 3>The depth of the prestige series is maybe a lot

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<v Speaker 3>of like very like into it for thirty six hours

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<v Speaker 3>reality shows. They have those, right, and they have like

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<v Speaker 3>hey here are like this is hot lake House, you like,

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<v Speaker 3>watch it for seven minutes You're like, Okay, I get it.

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<v Speaker 1>They have a lot of those. They do, but I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know they do no. I think for me it's

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<v Speaker 1>it's Netflix. I think for me it's Netflix because there's

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of again I hear what you're saying on

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<v Speaker 1>the big budget, top shelf premium series. Netflix has a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of TV stuff that could hold you over for

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<v Speaker 1>a while.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, no, yeah, I mean it just depends on your

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<v Speaker 3>taste obviously, and Disney Plus everybody says is great. I

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<v Speaker 3>just I have found in looking through that that there

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<v Speaker 3>are some things I want to watch, but by and large,

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know. I don't need to go back and

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<v Speaker 3>rewatch the Marvel movies I've seen.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't.

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<v Speaker 3>I found myself not really wanting to go rewatch Star

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<v Speaker 3>Wars movies, even if I've liked the specific one whatever.

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<v Speaker 3>So there's a lot there, and I think it's better

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<v Speaker 3>if you're also including like children with Disney Plus, but

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<v Speaker 3>that doesn't.

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<v Speaker 1>Move me as much.

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<v Speaker 3>I just yeah, I think HBO has more of those

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<v Speaker 3>for me been meaning to watches, and so that would

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<v Speaker 3>be nice if I were locked in a room for

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<v Speaker 3>a year.

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<v Speaker 1>Mayor v'stown. Very good, by the way, good sense, per you,

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<v Speaker 1>very good accents. They did a good job. Okay, thank

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<v Speaker 1>I appreciate your cheese run from the West Coast, twelve

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<v Speaker 1>pounds of cheese.

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<v Speaker 3>I'll let you know how it goes. I did also

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<v Speaker 3>bring to the West Coast and back from the West

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<v Speaker 3>Coast both my baking scale and a bench scraper for

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<v Speaker 3>making No, okay, that's very light and small.

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<v Speaker 1>You need that. You need to have that with you.

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<v Speaker 3>I did bring a pan back as well from the coast.

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<v Speaker 3>I ordered a pan to make my pan pies to

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<v Speaker 3>to the West Coast, and I decided to bring it

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<v Speaker 3>back because it'd be nice to have another one.

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<v Speaker 1>I had the room. What do you want me to

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<v Speaker 1>tell you, for that guy over there, my good friend

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<v Speaker 1>Dan Rubinstein, for myself, Tie Hilt and Brand. Thank you

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<v Speaker 1>so much for coming on back, asking your questions, and

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<v Speaker 1>for bearing with us here through our silliness. Daniel, stay solid, hey,

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<v Speaker 1>please