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Speaker 2: I've heard so many players say, well, I want to

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Speaker 1: You want to be happy for a day at a steak?

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Speaker 1: Woo woof? And them and tie Welcome back to the

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Speaker 1: solid rubber boys and girls. My name is Ty hilde Brand.

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Speaker 1: That fine gentleman over there, the one and only Dan

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Speaker 1: Rubinstein now back in Chicago, Land, Dan, how are you? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I'm good, I'm good.

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Speaker 3: I would recommend not flying with a three month old

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Speaker 1: You also, you also flew with like eight pounds of cheese.

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Speaker 1: What to explain? Yeah, it wasn't explain to me the

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Speaker 3: The supply store I go to here. So I knew

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Speaker 3: It didn't break the bank to buy this cheese. But

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Speaker 1: Have you used it yet in the pizza? No? Not yet.

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Speaker 3: I will this week. And this is a college football show.

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Speaker 3: Just always embrace who you are and what you do.

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Speaker 1: a good reason also is he nailed the basketball higher.

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Speaker 1: Juwan Howard right, as far as I can tell, has

433
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Speaker 1: been very well received and has had a lot of

434
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Speaker 1: early success as the Michigan basketball coach. So he nailed

435
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Speaker 1: the basketball hire.

436
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Speaker 3: So there's no reason to think that he is not

437
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Speaker 3: on top of things as it relates to the Football

438
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Speaker 3: of the Future program if and when Jim Harbaugh is

439
00:22:40,840 --> 00:22:43,879
Speaker 3: no longer the head coach there. So they do have

440
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Speaker 3: a backup plan. I think they have a plan ABCDEFG

441
00:22:47,640 --> 00:22:50,560
Speaker 3: and time will tell when that piece of paper will

442
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Speaker 3: be taken out of Ward Manual's desk, but they do absolutely.

443
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Speaker 1: Here's the thing, though here's the one caveat to that,

444
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Speaker 1: and I don't disagree. Of course, everybody, everybody at that

445
00:23:00,359 --> 00:23:03,040
Speaker 1: level has to have that piece of paper in the desk.

446
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Speaker 1: I am going to draw a very crude comparison here

447
00:23:07,320 --> 00:23:10,840
Speaker 1: to the time that Notre Dame hired Charlie Weiss. Okay,

448
00:23:11,359 --> 00:23:15,440
Speaker 1: if we could go back way yonder, thank you, Let's

449
00:23:15,480 --> 00:23:18,200
Speaker 1: hop in the time machine for a second. Notre Dame

450
00:23:18,359 --> 00:23:22,399
Speaker 1: brought Charlie Weiss on under the pretense that he was

451
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Speaker 1: going to be the savior of the program. Charlie Weiss

452
00:23:24,960 --> 00:23:29,399
Speaker 1: didn't like say anything to try and dispel that notion.

453
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Speaker 1: He kind of steered into it and delivered on it early,

454
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Speaker 1: delivered on it early, sort of led to his undoing

455
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Speaker 1: in the end. We won't go into that whole rigamarole,

456
00:23:39,160 --> 00:23:42,440
Speaker 1: but that was they brought him in under that pretense

457
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Speaker 1: that he was going to be the savior of the program,

458
00:23:45,000 --> 00:23:49,199
Speaker 1: as did Michigan with Jim Harbaugh. Jim Harbaugh has been

459
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Speaker 1: fine for the program. He's certainly been better for Michigan

460
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Speaker 1: football than Weiss was for Notre Dame.

461
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Speaker 2: M HM.

462
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Speaker 1: But there is no getting around the fact that if

463
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Speaker 1: they move on beyond Harbaugh, it will be a letdown

464
00:24:03,840 --> 00:24:07,760
Speaker 1: for Michigan fans, brass you name it, boosters will be

465
00:24:08,000 --> 00:24:11,160
Speaker 1: it will be felt as a letdown. Well, it'll be. Yeah,

466
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Speaker 1: it'll be disappointing that Harbad didn't. It will be very disappointing,

467
00:24:15,040 --> 00:24:19,479
Speaker 1: very disappointing. And I recall even when I knew that

468
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Speaker 1: things are going sideways for Weiss at Notre Dame, even

469
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Speaker 1: though I knew they had to move on, it still

470
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Speaker 1: felt disappointing and like a big old l when they

471
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Speaker 1: pulled the trigger and then they hired Brian Kelly, and

472
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Speaker 1: Brian Kelly at the time was not the sexy higher.

473
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Speaker 1: He had a bunch of great seasons with Cincinnati, he

474
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Speaker 1: had been with Grand Valley State. I think it was

475
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Speaker 1: widely assumed that he was just a guy who wanted

476
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Speaker 1: the job the most. He was in the running for

477
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Speaker 1: it the first time. They didn't go that directly. He

478
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Speaker 1: wasn't Harba, but he was, I mean, just led Cincinnati

479
00:24:50,359 --> 00:24:52,800
Speaker 1: to an undefeated season. He was a very good coach,

480
00:24:52,880 --> 00:24:56,160
Speaker 1: but he was certainly not the sexy Dare I say,

481
00:24:56,240 --> 00:24:59,439
Speaker 1: Charlie Weiss hire right right right, not connected to a

482
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Speaker 1: name as you just Tom Brady or something exactly. So

483
00:25:02,720 --> 00:25:05,000
Speaker 1: when they brought Brian Kelly in, I remember feeling a

484
00:25:05,000 --> 00:25:07,680
Speaker 1: bit let down, like hmm okay, like he wanted the

485
00:25:07,760 --> 00:25:10,520
Speaker 1: job the most and that was cool, but it's still

486
00:25:10,560 --> 00:25:13,600
Speaker 1: like Brian Kelly, Okay, how do I feel about that?

487
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Speaker 3: But that's sort of the antithesis, right, that's somebody with

488
00:25:16,840 --> 00:25:20,000
Speaker 3: college coaching experience, somebody who has like who has come

489
00:25:20,080 --> 00:25:22,680
Speaker 3: up through the ranks in a in a very collegey way,

490
00:25:22,880 --> 00:25:25,200
Speaker 3: unlike you know, Charlie Weis, you know, with his experience

491
00:25:25,200 --> 00:25:26,760
Speaker 3: in the pros for as long as it was there,

492
00:25:26,800 --> 00:25:29,040
Speaker 3: as long as he was there, and it was just like, Okay,

493
00:25:29,080 --> 00:25:31,440
Speaker 3: he wins everywhere he goes. He grows as a quarter,

494
00:25:31,520 --> 00:25:33,880
Speaker 3: as a as a play caller, and a head coach

495
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Speaker 3: and a recruiter, and he has ascended to because Cincinnati,

496
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Speaker 3: you know, we're talking about a team that won a

497
00:25:39,320 --> 00:25:41,800
Speaker 3: lot in the Big East around then he has ascended

498
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Speaker 3: to the Notre Dame level instead of Okay, here's an

499
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Speaker 3: experiment with somebody who was a big name and now

500
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Speaker 3: with Michigan.

501
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Speaker 1: Yeah, and you think, by the way, it's not it's

502
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Speaker 1: not a direct comparison between one. But like in Horrorball

503
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Speaker 1: and Brian Kelly and who might be next for Michigan.

504
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Speaker 1: But you know, I'm just thinking of it from a

505
00:25:57,760 --> 00:26:00,840
Speaker 1: fan's perspective. I was really disappointed when the Weisting blew up.

506
00:26:00,960 --> 00:26:03,040
Speaker 1: I didn't really like Charlie Weist that much as person

507
00:26:03,320 --> 00:26:05,800
Speaker 1: like he's kind of a jerk. He really was, But

508
00:26:05,880 --> 00:26:10,640
Speaker 1: ultimately I was hopeful that he could come in with

509
00:26:10,680 --> 00:26:13,000
Speaker 1: his expertise he had worked with Tom Brady. It's like,

510
00:26:13,000 --> 00:26:15,720
Speaker 1: oh my god, this is going to be such well recruited,

511
00:26:15,760 --> 00:26:19,120
Speaker 1: really well at the skill positions, recruited well, it's didn't

512
00:26:19,160 --> 00:26:22,359
Speaker 1: work out, did not work out. I feel for the

513
00:26:22,400 --> 00:26:26,800
Speaker 1: Michigan faithful out there, who, if and when the Wolverines

514
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Speaker 1: go in a different direction, feel disappointed by the fact that,

515
00:26:30,359 --> 00:26:32,600
Speaker 1: damn it didn't work out with our guy Harbaugh. My

516
00:26:32,680 --> 00:26:35,800
Speaker 1: only point in bringing all this up, this long winded diatribe,

517
00:26:36,080 --> 00:26:38,160
Speaker 1: is just that have faith in that piece of paper,

518
00:26:38,160 --> 00:26:41,920
Speaker 1: because you're right, they did get the Juwan Howard higher correct.

519
00:26:42,280 --> 00:26:43,760
Speaker 1: I'm sure there are a lot of coaches out there

520
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Speaker 1: who really want the Michigan job. And just because it's

521
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Speaker 1: not as big a name as a Jim Harbaugh, a

522
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Speaker 1: Michigan man, so to speak, it doesn't mean that the

523
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Speaker 1: next guy can't have success. I don't think there's a

524
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Speaker 1: very obvious plan be There are definitely good coaches, younger

525
00:26:56,480 --> 00:26:58,760
Speaker 1: coaches who might want to take a crack at this

526
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Speaker 1: and could do a great job at Michigan. It's just

527
00:27:01,720 --> 00:27:03,439
Speaker 1: none of them are going to come to sex appeal

528
00:27:03,480 --> 00:27:08,000
Speaker 1: as Jim Harbaugh. They're just not well so in the footprint.

529
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Speaker 3: Obviously, you have Luke Fickel, who turned down Michigan State,

530
00:27:10,680 --> 00:27:12,760
Speaker 3: who has his own Ohio State connections, but it doesn't

531
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Speaker 3: seem like Cincinnatio.

532
00:27:14,119 --> 00:27:14,800
Speaker 1: Cincinnati guy.

533
00:27:14,960 --> 00:27:18,639
Speaker 3: Another Cincinnati guy who's had tremendous success there. You know

534
00:27:18,760 --> 00:27:21,840
Speaker 3: Jeff Halfley at Boston College. You have Tom Allen at Indiana,

535
00:27:21,960 --> 00:27:24,879
Speaker 3: Mario Christaball at Oregon, all of you know, Michigan is

536
00:27:24,920 --> 00:27:28,119
Speaker 3: a bigger national program than all of these places. If

537
00:27:28,119 --> 00:27:30,000
Speaker 3: you want to look guys up and coming in the area,

538
00:27:30,040 --> 00:27:32,160
Speaker 3: they're younger guys. Matt Campbell of course at Iowa State.

539
00:27:32,200 --> 00:27:34,560
Speaker 3: We've already talked about clones. Even you know Sean Lewis

540
00:27:34,560 --> 00:27:37,000
Speaker 3: at Kent State. You know, it's it's going to be

541
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Speaker 3: about fit, it's going to be about the ability to

542
00:27:38,800 --> 00:27:44,440
Speaker 3: navigate the behind the scenes scene at Michigan, which rich

543
00:27:44,560 --> 00:27:48,400
Speaker 3: Rod I think early on was sort of undercut if

544
00:27:48,400 --> 00:27:50,119
Speaker 3: you read a lot about what was going on. He

545
00:27:50,200 --> 00:27:52,560
Speaker 3: lost a lot of players to transfer when when he

546
00:27:52,760 --> 00:27:56,560
Speaker 3: was brought in and Lloyd Carr retired. And so it's

547
00:27:56,640 --> 00:27:58,639
Speaker 3: going to be a fit thing more than anything. It's

548
00:27:58,680 --> 00:27:59,879
Speaker 3: going to be a vision thing, and it's going to

549
00:27:59,880 --> 00:28:03,479
Speaker 3: be who's empowered. And it's a problem that Texas has

550
00:28:03,520 --> 00:28:06,560
Speaker 3: had where like, Okay, this booster behind the scenes doesn't

551
00:28:06,640 --> 00:28:08,800
Speaker 3: like this coordinator hire this is who they're hiring at

552
00:28:08,800 --> 00:28:11,119
Speaker 3: this coordinator or this assistant coach, Like, who's going to

553
00:28:11,119 --> 00:28:13,480
Speaker 3: be empowered, who's going to be able to navigate all

554
00:28:13,480 --> 00:28:15,400
Speaker 3: of those things, who's being able to recruit, and who's

555
00:28:15,440 --> 00:28:18,200
Speaker 3: going to be able to say this is the job

556
00:28:18,280 --> 00:28:20,520
Speaker 3: that I have been working towards and that I want

557
00:28:20,640 --> 00:28:23,719
Speaker 3: specifically because it has opened up because it is one

558
00:28:23,760 --> 00:28:26,760
Speaker 3: of the world's major college football jobs. So you know,

559
00:28:26,800 --> 00:28:28,959
Speaker 3: there are all those names, and I don't you know,

560
00:28:29,160 --> 00:28:31,399
Speaker 3: Tom Allen would be amazing at Michigan. Is he going

561
00:28:31,480 --> 00:28:35,800
Speaker 3: to leave for a team in the conference? Hard to say.

562
00:28:36,040 --> 00:28:38,680
Speaker 3: Generational wealth is a hell of a thing. Who knows,

563
00:28:38,680 --> 00:28:40,920
Speaker 3: But he's getting paid in Indiana. So I think there

564
00:28:40,920 --> 00:28:42,920
Speaker 3: are a number of names. Pat Fitzgerald another name that

565
00:28:42,960 --> 00:28:45,040
Speaker 3: constantly comes up with these kinds of jobs. He just

566
00:28:45,080 --> 00:28:48,480
Speaker 3: signed an extension. Hard to see him leaving Northwestern, a

567
00:28:48,480 --> 00:28:51,160
Speaker 3: place that he has built into what it is. But

568
00:28:51,640 --> 00:28:53,360
Speaker 3: you know, there are those names, are all those there

569
00:28:53,400 --> 00:28:57,040
Speaker 3: are those conversations. Michigan remains a big place, but it

570
00:28:57,080 --> 00:29:00,560
Speaker 3: has you know, the shadow has grown deeper and darker

571
00:29:00,600 --> 00:29:03,080
Speaker 3: in that conference because of Ohio State success. So it's

572
00:29:03,120 --> 00:29:05,680
Speaker 3: going to take a lot, but I don't think it's

573
00:29:05,680 --> 00:29:07,200
Speaker 3: going to be I don't think Michigan is going to

574
00:29:07,280 --> 00:29:09,880
Speaker 3: have to go to their fifth choice now at this job.

575
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Speaker 1: By the way, I like that you throw out Halfley's

576
00:29:12,720 --> 00:29:16,320
Speaker 1: name for every opening. Big the big Halfley guy. You're

577
00:29:16,320 --> 00:29:17,360
Speaker 1: a big Halfey guy.

578
00:29:17,640 --> 00:29:21,640
Speaker 3: He is well regarded. Boston College did pretty well this

579
00:29:21,680 --> 00:29:25,120
Speaker 3: past year, and he was I mean, is he one

580
00:29:25,160 --> 00:29:29,280
Speaker 3: of the better coordinated Big ten coordinators the past five years?

581
00:29:29,280 --> 00:29:32,480
Speaker 3: An enormous amount of talent, But yeah, absolutely, I like

582
00:29:32,560 --> 00:29:34,840
Speaker 3: I like that you're a fan. I'm telling you he's

583
00:29:34,840 --> 00:29:37,320
Speaker 3: well regarded in these circles. That's all I'm telling you.

584
00:29:37,400 --> 00:29:41,440
Speaker 1: And he was really good on the coach's film room.

585
00:29:41,560 --> 00:29:43,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, so the ultimate launchal experience.

586
00:29:44,120 --> 00:29:44,479
Speaker 1: Yeah.

587
00:29:44,600 --> 00:29:46,080
Speaker 3: I think he was with the forty nine ers. So

588
00:29:46,200 --> 00:29:48,600
Speaker 3: you have that crossover with Jim Harbough. That's important.

589
00:29:49,440 --> 00:29:51,320
Speaker 1: I like him too, just not not as much as you,

590
00:29:51,440 --> 00:29:53,320
Speaker 1: which is fine. It's okay. So you'll get there. You'll

591
00:29:53,320 --> 00:29:55,280
Speaker 1: get there. I will probably get a question you pick.

592
00:29:56,360 --> 00:29:58,960
Speaker 1: All right. This sort of goes hand in hand with

593
00:29:59,040 --> 00:30:02,280
Speaker 1: this U. This is from the real weave. Don't know

594
00:30:02,360 --> 00:30:02,880
Speaker 1: what that means.

595
00:30:02,880 --> 00:30:05,640
Speaker 3: Okay, what are the top five? College football is better

596
00:30:05,680 --> 00:30:09,040
Speaker 3: when team X is good? Conversely, which teams make college

597
00:30:09,040 --> 00:30:12,320
Speaker 3: football better when they stink? This is the ultimate fantasy thing.

598
00:30:13,320 --> 00:30:19,000
Speaker 3: It's a fantasy thing question, and it's completely subjective, and

599
00:30:19,040 --> 00:30:21,120
Speaker 3: it is a thing that people will try it out

600
00:30:21,160 --> 00:30:23,320
Speaker 3: in the off Seaton koshur Watch is better when Texas

601
00:30:23,360 --> 00:30:25,680
Speaker 3: is good. Klchhaw is better when Alabama's College is better

602
00:30:25,720 --> 00:30:29,920
Speaker 3: when Miami's good. The one that jumps out to me

603
00:30:30,000 --> 00:30:35,200
Speaker 3: is USC. I just think for geographic balance. I like

604
00:30:35,880 --> 00:30:41,080
Speaker 3: a strong SC holding with Oregon and sometimes Washington and

605
00:30:41,120 --> 00:30:43,960
Speaker 3: Stanley Lake. But you have to have that USC base

606
00:30:44,000 --> 00:30:46,200
Speaker 3: to have college football be a thing in Los Angeles.

607
00:30:46,240 --> 00:30:48,760
Speaker 3: I think is a big deal for the sport and

608
00:30:49,200 --> 00:30:52,000
Speaker 3: we've seen that sort of vacuum, even with other schools

609
00:30:52,000 --> 00:30:55,080
Speaker 3: having success on the West Coast. It's really it's really

610
00:30:55,160 --> 00:30:59,400
Speaker 3: nice for the sport when USC, particularly with the charismatic coach.

611
00:31:00,000 --> 00:31:03,080
Speaker 3: I think it's only happened once recently, but I think

612
00:31:03,120 --> 00:31:05,960
Speaker 3: that's important, So that would be an answer.

613
00:31:06,240 --> 00:31:07,640
Speaker 1: A lot of people say Miami.

614
00:31:08,520 --> 00:31:10,480
Speaker 3: I think a lot of it is environments, Like it's

615
00:31:10,560 --> 00:31:13,040
Speaker 3: nice to have this environment rocking, It's nice to have

616
00:31:13,080 --> 00:31:15,240
Speaker 3: a huge game at this school. It's nice to have

617
00:31:15,280 --> 00:31:19,200
Speaker 3: a big game involving this school. Anytime, Miami is the

618
00:31:19,240 --> 00:31:22,000
Speaker 3: answer here. And we've heard people say this one before, right,

619
00:31:22,320 --> 00:31:26,080
Speaker 3: plenty of times. My football's better with Miami good. Again, Sure,

620
00:31:26,640 --> 00:31:31,040
Speaker 3: it's not like Michigan, it's not like Texas. Anytime somebody

621
00:31:31,080 --> 00:31:33,920
Speaker 3: answers Miami, they're talking about some of those legendary Miami

622
00:31:33,960 --> 00:31:35,920
Speaker 3: teams that we saw, Sure at the turn of the

623
00:31:35,960 --> 00:31:42,040
Speaker 3: century in the early aughts. I don't really care if

624
00:31:42,040 --> 00:31:44,880
Speaker 3: Miami's good. See I do, and I'll tell you why.

625
00:31:45,480 --> 00:31:48,640
Speaker 3: And it's a very similar reason to USC. It's geographic balance,

626
00:31:48,680 --> 00:31:52,440
Speaker 3: but it's also because there's so much talent in South Florida.

627
00:31:52,840 --> 00:31:57,320
Speaker 3: If Miami is really, really good, and really really good consistently.

628
00:31:57,960 --> 00:32:02,200
Speaker 3: The assumption is is that they're recruiting and developing and

629
00:32:02,720 --> 00:32:06,719
Speaker 3: evaluating the best of the best in their backyard and

630
00:32:06,840 --> 00:32:09,560
Speaker 3: keeping them home. We've seen all of the players leave

631
00:32:09,600 --> 00:32:12,400
Speaker 3: that area and have so much success elsewhere. So if

632
00:32:12,440 --> 00:32:15,320
Speaker 3: you're talking about a Miami team that is keeping talent home,

633
00:32:15,360 --> 00:32:19,240
Speaker 3: you're talking about a stacked college football experience, right, You're

634
00:32:19,240 --> 00:32:23,680
Speaker 3: talking about a team that is laughably deep, especially at

635
00:32:23,760 --> 00:32:27,080
Speaker 3: speedier positions. And so that to me is a big deal.

636
00:32:27,640 --> 00:32:30,200
Speaker 3: And even though they play in an NFL stadium and

637
00:32:30,240 --> 00:32:32,040
Speaker 3: it's a smaller private school and it doesn't have the

638
00:32:32,080 --> 00:32:36,240
Speaker 3: fan base size, that sort of archetype of a really

639
00:32:36,280 --> 00:32:40,080
Speaker 3: good Miami program is I mean, is there another program

640
00:32:40,120 --> 00:32:45,520
Speaker 3: in the country that when they're good, you understand how

641
00:32:45,560 --> 00:32:48,280
Speaker 3: they play and what their game is like. And you know,

642
00:32:48,360 --> 00:32:51,360
Speaker 3: they even the one year recently where they had a

643
00:32:51,520 --> 00:32:55,280
Speaker 3: spurt a streak of really good football games, they were

644
00:32:55,280 --> 00:32:58,280
Speaker 3: really fun ty the turnover chain, turnover chain, right, you know,

645
00:32:59,120 --> 00:33:02,840
Speaker 3: fun and cool and unique in that moment it was.

646
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Speaker 3: And so that to me can't be replicated when another

647
00:33:06,400 --> 00:33:09,200
Speaker 3: school is good. There is a certain and they've all

648
00:33:09,240 --> 00:33:12,320
Speaker 3: tried to replicate the turnover chain. No, I know I'm saying,

649
00:33:12,320 --> 00:33:14,360
Speaker 3: but they're influential in that way. Who cares.

650
00:33:14,560 --> 00:33:17,120
Speaker 1: I I feel like every time I hear this answer,

651
00:33:17,720 --> 00:33:20,840
Speaker 1: Miami football is better. It's just better when Miami is well,

652
00:33:20,840 --> 00:33:21,280
Speaker 1: holl good.

653
00:33:21,680 --> 00:33:25,400
Speaker 3: What do we have hypothetically, if Miami is an a

654
00:33:25,400 --> 00:33:28,040
Speaker 3: A program, whatever, what do we have? Well, we have

655
00:33:28,080 --> 00:33:28,960
Speaker 3: a second.

656
00:33:28,600 --> 00:33:31,840
Speaker 1: Team in the ACC that it can be excellent. I guess,

657
00:33:31,960 --> 00:33:35,320
Speaker 1: I guess I think I miss I miss it does,

658
00:33:35,440 --> 00:33:39,880
Speaker 1: Sure it does. It absolutely makes college football better insofar

659
00:33:39,960 --> 00:33:43,560
Speaker 1: as there's a counterbalance, perhaps too Clemson. Yeah, I miss

660
00:33:43,560 --> 00:33:45,840
Speaker 1: Florida State a lot more than I missed Miami. Okay,

661
00:33:46,400 --> 00:33:48,280
Speaker 1: I mean they can both be the answer. They both

662
00:33:48,320 --> 00:33:50,360
Speaker 1: be the answer. This isn't to say, by the way

663
00:33:50,360 --> 00:33:52,320
Speaker 1: that I'm rooting against Miami, that I have any kind

664
00:33:52,320 --> 00:33:54,840
Speaker 1: of issue with Miami. But I just I think it's

665
00:33:54,880 --> 00:33:57,080
Speaker 1: a bad answer because I feel like, more often than not,

666
00:33:57,160 --> 00:33:59,920
Speaker 1: when people say it, they miss Miami when they were

667
00:34:00,080 --> 00:34:02,760
Speaker 1: awesome back in the day. Sure we all do, they

668
00:34:02,800 --> 00:34:05,120
Speaker 1: were they were awesome back in the day. I just

669
00:34:05,160 --> 00:34:06,720
Speaker 1: don't think that's the best answer here. I don't know

670
00:34:06,800 --> 00:34:07,880
Speaker 1: if I could tell you year.

671
00:34:07,760 --> 00:34:10,960
Speaker 3: In and year out, I'm not talking about national championship contender Miami.

672
00:34:10,960 --> 00:34:12,759
Speaker 3: I'm talking about year in and year out, ten and

673
00:34:12,800 --> 00:34:17,400
Speaker 3: two Miami with killer receivers and running backs and safeties

674
00:34:17,440 --> 00:34:20,160
Speaker 3: and corners and an edge rusher that just year in

675
00:34:20,160 --> 00:34:23,000
Speaker 3: and year out. Though these are like first second round talents,

676
00:34:23,440 --> 00:34:26,879
Speaker 3: and year in, year out, they scare the bejesus out

677
00:34:26,880 --> 00:34:29,839
Speaker 3: of Dabo Sweeney. Year in ch I'm okay, we get

678
00:34:29,880 --> 00:34:34,239
Speaker 3: shots of Dabbo on the sideline looking frustrated, angry, and

679
00:34:34,360 --> 00:34:37,680
Speaker 3: overwhelmed by a loud Miami crowd with players on the

680
00:34:37,760 --> 00:34:42,239
Speaker 3: other sidelines howling with laughter overbeating Clemson. You're telling me

681
00:34:42,280 --> 00:34:45,160
Speaker 3: college football is not obviously more fun in that situation.

682
00:34:44,880 --> 00:34:47,799
Speaker 1: We could It's a counterpoint, counterpoint to Mount Point. If

683
00:34:47,800 --> 00:34:50,880
Speaker 1: we could get that version of Miami, just that super

684
00:34:51,040 --> 00:34:55,239
Speaker 1: chippy yeah version of Miami that we saw back in

685
00:34:55,280 --> 00:34:59,520
Speaker 1: the day, that would serve as the counterbalance to Clemson,

686
00:34:59,600 --> 00:35:02,759
Speaker 1: that would really get in Dabo's kraw. You have really

687
00:35:02,880 --> 00:35:07,319
Speaker 1: in Dallas craw Dobo. Yeah, Dabbo would hate it. I

688
00:35:07,360 --> 00:35:09,440
Speaker 1: just don't absolutely hate it. I just don't think we're there. No,

689
00:35:09,520 --> 00:35:10,040
Speaker 1: we're not there.

690
00:35:10,040 --> 00:35:12,280
Speaker 3: But I'm just telling you, if this is a hypothetical

691
00:35:12,360 --> 00:35:14,279
Speaker 3: question about the teams that would make college football more fun.

692
00:35:14,320 --> 00:35:18,120
Speaker 1: It would be more fun with that version. Yeah, the

693
00:35:18,160 --> 00:35:23,359
Speaker 1: weirdest answer I've ever heard this question is Michigan State. Yeah.

694
00:35:23,400 --> 00:35:26,080
Speaker 1: I didn't think about Michigan State when thinking about this answer.

695
00:35:26,920 --> 00:35:29,480
Speaker 1: That's the weirdest one that I've heard. But otherwise, you

696
00:35:29,520 --> 00:35:32,640
Speaker 1: could you could play anybody. Well, it's totally subjective, right,

697
00:35:32,680 --> 00:35:35,520
Speaker 1: It's it's who makes who did you grow up with

698
00:35:35,560 --> 00:35:37,839
Speaker 1: as good teams, And if you're fifty six, it might

699
00:35:37,840 --> 00:35:39,959
Speaker 1: not necessarily be the same answers if you're thirty six.

700
00:35:40,360 --> 00:35:43,319
Speaker 1: But to me, I want geographic balance. I want the

701
00:35:43,360 --> 00:35:45,960
Speaker 1: bigger rivalries of the sport to mean something. So I'd

702
00:35:45,960 --> 00:35:47,440
Speaker 1: love to look forward.

703
00:35:47,160 --> 00:35:49,000
Speaker 3: To and legitimately not know who's going to win the

704
00:35:49,040 --> 00:35:51,640
Speaker 3: Michigan Ohio State game or the Texas Oklahoma game, which

705
00:35:51,640 --> 00:35:53,400
Speaker 3: I guess it's been the case that's gone back and

706
00:35:53,400 --> 00:35:56,520
Speaker 3: forth some but the bigger rivalries in the sport, I want,

707
00:35:56,600 --> 00:35:59,160
Speaker 3: you know, Florida Miami, Florida State, Miami Florida, Florida State.

708
00:35:59,200 --> 00:36:02,759
Speaker 3: I want those matches up to be toss ups. Other

709
00:36:02,840 --> 00:36:06,760
Speaker 3: than that, you know, I just like good fun football

710
00:36:06,840 --> 00:36:10,479
Speaker 3: and we can watch every game. So a season isn't

711
00:36:10,520 --> 00:36:13,920
Speaker 3: necessarily more fun because this one school is good. But

712
00:36:14,440 --> 00:36:16,480
Speaker 3: if we have a bunch of interesting rivalries and we

713
00:36:16,520 --> 00:36:18,759
Speaker 3: know about the storylines and narratives and players coming up

714
00:36:18,760 --> 00:36:20,759
Speaker 3: at random places, that's good bye me too.

715
00:36:20,880 --> 00:36:22,680
Speaker 1: The interesting thing and that we're going to move on

716
00:36:23,360 --> 00:36:26,200
Speaker 1: is that when you ask people this question, if you

717
00:36:26,239 --> 00:36:28,359
Speaker 1: ask an Ohio State fan this question, if you ask

718
00:36:28,400 --> 00:36:32,240
Speaker 1: a Michigan fan this question, inevitably they will always say

719
00:36:32,960 --> 00:36:38,560
Speaker 1: their biggest rival. Sure, even despite the fact they hate them.

720
00:36:39,160 --> 00:36:41,279
Speaker 1: They will always say it's better when it's no fun.

721
00:36:41,480 --> 00:36:42,880
Speaker 1: I mean, it is fun, but I was gonna say

722
00:36:42,880 --> 00:36:44,600
Speaker 1: it's no fun to stomp a team year and year

723
00:36:44,640 --> 00:36:46,879
Speaker 1: out for me. Look on the outside, it is fun

724
00:36:46,920 --> 00:36:52,919
Speaker 1: for a while. It is fun as a novelty, right, undeniably,

725
00:36:53,360 --> 00:36:55,080
Speaker 1: and we've done it. You get the answer all the time.

726
00:36:55,160 --> 00:36:57,960
Speaker 1: I'll just speak as an Oregon fan. Oregon has rivals

727
00:36:58,000 --> 00:37:00,760
Speaker 1: with you know, rivalries of Oregon State with what with USC.

728
00:37:00,920 --> 00:37:06,440
Speaker 1: There is something nice about butterflies before kickoff, Like it's weird.

729
00:37:06,480 --> 00:37:08,520
Speaker 1: If you get to a place where you're an Ohio

730
00:37:08,520 --> 00:37:11,160
Speaker 1: State fan, you's like, well, there's gonna blow out Michigan like,

731
00:37:11,840 --> 00:37:14,359
Speaker 1: it's more fun when there is that energy in your

732
00:37:14,400 --> 00:37:19,080
Speaker 1: living room, in the stadium, whatever. And I think USC

733
00:37:19,239 --> 00:37:21,120
Speaker 1: Miami or my answers with that, I just I don't

734
00:37:21,160 --> 00:37:24,719
Speaker 1: care if Miami is good. Jr. Seven oh seven one

735
00:37:24,760 --> 00:37:27,879
Speaker 1: of our verballers. Yeah, this is a dang question here.

736
00:37:28,040 --> 00:37:30,839
Speaker 1: I don't really have any thoughts on this. The new

737
00:37:31,000 --> 00:37:33,160
Speaker 1: PAC twelve guy, George what's his name.

738
00:37:34,719 --> 00:37:36,680
Speaker 3: I'm gonna look it up right now, is like Clavi

739
00:37:36,760 --> 00:37:42,080
Speaker 3: cough or something, Clavigal, George clavi twelve. Yeah, George Clavical, Uh,

740
00:37:42,800 --> 00:37:45,520
Speaker 3: Clai of Cli of cough Cloud. Let's go Claviical, we

741
00:37:45,520 --> 00:37:46,360
Speaker 3: can go Claviical.

742
00:37:46,719 --> 00:37:49,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, what are your thoughts on George Clavial, new PAC

743
00:37:49,520 --> 00:37:51,359
Speaker 1: twelve commissioner for those playing along at home.

744
00:37:52,280 --> 00:37:55,560
Speaker 3: Yeah, has has a background in I mean it was MGM,

745
00:37:55,640 --> 00:37:57,920
Speaker 3: it was Hulu all sorts of streaming and you know,

746
00:37:58,440 --> 00:38:02,479
Speaker 3: involved with sports rights and commonversations and contracts and from

747
00:38:02,560 --> 00:38:06,359
Speaker 3: more of the broadcast angle. I think he was in

748
00:38:06,520 --> 00:38:10,120
Speaker 3: Las Vegas with all of this stuff with MGM Entertainment,

749
00:38:10,600 --> 00:38:12,839
Speaker 3: so you know, boxing and stadiums and all that kind

750
00:38:12,840 --> 00:38:15,680
Speaker 3: of stuff. So there is that tangential connection to sports.

751
00:38:15,960 --> 00:38:18,680
Speaker 3: I mean the priorities are clear. The priorities are clear

752
00:38:18,840 --> 00:38:21,839
Speaker 3: in that it's get everybody on the same page, get

753
00:38:21,880 --> 00:38:25,520
Speaker 3: everybody aligned. In terms of vision for the conference. Competitively,

754
00:38:25,640 --> 00:38:29,560
Speaker 3: he talked about, you know, succeeding with football and men's basketball,

755
00:38:29,880 --> 00:38:32,960
Speaker 3: just because it's obvious that those two sports drive the

756
00:38:33,000 --> 00:38:36,560
Speaker 3: conference's bottom line is incredibly important. There's only so much

757
00:38:36,920 --> 00:38:39,440
Speaker 3: that a commissioner of the Pac twelve can do in

758
00:38:39,520 --> 00:38:43,440
Speaker 3: terms of making good hires at important schools for basketball

759
00:38:43,480 --> 00:38:47,759
Speaker 3: and football. But I think his background with streaming and

760
00:38:47,800 --> 00:38:50,920
Speaker 3: broadcast stuff and stadiums and helping to get the Pac

761
00:38:51,000 --> 00:38:52,720
Speaker 3: twelve on the biggest possible stages.

762
00:38:52,760 --> 00:38:54,239
Speaker 1: I mean, the.

763
00:38:54,200 --> 00:38:57,439
Speaker 3: Conference needs to win huge September games. There's nothing much

764
00:38:57,480 --> 00:38:59,680
Speaker 3: he can do to do that. You know, Oregon needs

765
00:38:59,719 --> 00:39:03,359
Speaker 3: to beat and Washington, I think is playing Michigan this year.

766
00:39:03,400 --> 00:39:05,880
Speaker 3: Oregon's playing Ohio State. And I don't think USC has

767
00:39:05,920 --> 00:39:08,560
Speaker 3: any sort of big marquee September matchups coming up. They

768
00:39:08,600 --> 00:39:11,359
Speaker 3: have Notre Dame every year, UCLA has LSU. So there's

769
00:39:11,400 --> 00:39:15,440
Speaker 3: nothing that George Clavicle can do at the moment to

770
00:39:15,600 --> 00:39:19,439
Speaker 3: drive wins and thus attention for the conference heading into

771
00:39:19,440 --> 00:39:22,600
Speaker 3: the rest of the year. But broadcast rights, getting the

772
00:39:22,960 --> 00:39:28,840
Speaker 3: conference on the biggest possible TV stages. So that's ESPN, Fox, CBS, NBC,

773
00:39:28,960 --> 00:39:32,960
Speaker 3: whoever has these rights, and you know, getting the conference

774
00:39:33,239 --> 00:39:35,759
Speaker 3: if it's a streaming package or a part streaming package. Right,

775
00:39:35,800 --> 00:39:38,120
Speaker 3: the NFL is going Thursday night Amazon full time in

776
00:39:38,160 --> 00:39:41,120
Speaker 3: a couple of years, I believe. So it's getting the

777
00:39:41,120 --> 00:39:44,120
Speaker 3: conference to a point where anybody who wants to see

778
00:39:44,120 --> 00:39:47,120
Speaker 3: a PAC twelve game doesn't just happen to have the

779
00:39:47,200 --> 00:39:50,880
Speaker 3: right cable package. That is that is going to be huge,

780
00:39:51,200 --> 00:39:56,000
Speaker 3: and the biggest games need to be played at times

781
00:39:56,080 --> 00:39:58,359
Speaker 3: where you know, I know people will watch those late

782
00:39:58,400 --> 00:40:00,960
Speaker 3: games because sometimes they're the only show on you know,

783
00:40:01,000 --> 00:40:04,000
Speaker 3: those ten o'clock eastern kicks. But if you have a

784
00:40:04,120 --> 00:40:08,480
Speaker 3: number eleven ranked UCLA playing a number nine ranked USC

785
00:40:08,640 --> 00:40:11,080
Speaker 3: at the end of the year, probably shouldn't kick off

786
00:40:11,080 --> 00:40:13,759
Speaker 3: at ten eastern, right, Like, there should be some I

787
00:40:13,800 --> 00:40:18,480
Speaker 3: think advanced strategy conversations about how to get the most

788
00:40:18,520 --> 00:40:23,040
Speaker 3: eyeballs at the best times on these teams, because it's

789
00:40:23,080 --> 00:40:26,160
Speaker 3: a you know, college football is a complete attention economy

790
00:40:26,360 --> 00:40:28,640
Speaker 3: and whatever your perception of a team is, what the

791
00:40:28,640 --> 00:40:30,800
Speaker 3: team is. If you're not watching, you don't have a perception.

792
00:40:30,960 --> 00:40:32,920
Speaker 3: So the perception right now with the PAC twelve is

793
00:40:32,920 --> 00:40:36,879
Speaker 3: that they are behind and within his powers and within

794
00:40:36,920 --> 00:40:40,279
Speaker 3: the Office's powers, they need to financially get to a

795
00:40:40,360 --> 00:40:42,960
Speaker 3: nice place, because the better the conference does financially, it's

796
00:40:43,120 --> 00:40:45,520
Speaker 3: you know, it's tied to how well the teams do financially,

797
00:40:45,560 --> 00:40:47,799
Speaker 3: and the better the teams do financially, the more money

798
00:40:47,840 --> 00:40:51,920
Speaker 3: they have to pay head coaches, upgrade facilities, pay assistant coaches,

799
00:40:51,960 --> 00:40:55,200
Speaker 3: and compete on some level with the SEC and the

800
00:40:55,200 --> 00:40:57,680
Speaker 3: Big Ten, the two conferences that are far and above

801
00:40:57,880 --> 00:40:58,600
Speaker 3: everybody else.

802
00:40:58,960 --> 00:41:02,280
Speaker 1: The example that I use a lot is when Carson

803
00:41:02,400 --> 00:41:06,160
Speaker 1: Palmer won the Heisman Trophy and Carson Palmer had a

804
00:41:06,160 --> 00:41:09,719
Speaker 1: great year. Mm hmm. Clearly he was Heisman worthy. Was

805
00:41:09,719 --> 00:41:13,400
Speaker 1: that three o two somewhere in there. Yeah, he didn't

806
00:41:13,880 --> 00:41:17,879
Speaker 1: really win the Heisman until he dismantled Notre Dame right

807
00:41:17,960 --> 00:41:21,640
Speaker 1: on national television at night. Everybody saw it. After that,

808
00:41:21,680 --> 00:41:23,120
Speaker 1: there was no question who was going to win the

809
00:41:23,160 --> 00:41:26,960
Speaker 1: Heisman Trophy. That that attention, as you said, the attention

810
00:41:27,080 --> 00:41:30,000
Speaker 1: economy of college football is big deal, and it's easy

811
00:41:30,040 --> 00:41:33,239
Speaker 1: for us on the East Coast to overlook that. And

812
00:41:33,320 --> 00:41:35,600
Speaker 1: I think for yourself. I'm on the third coast here,

813
00:41:35,640 --> 00:41:38,000
Speaker 1: you're on the third coast again. Yeah, I also think

814
00:41:38,080 --> 00:41:40,640
Speaker 1: it's it's easy for folks on the West coast to

815
00:41:41,120 --> 00:41:43,480
Speaker 1: you know, maybe not have that perspective, feel a bit

816
00:41:43,520 --> 00:41:47,160
Speaker 1: slighted by it. But the Eastern time zone drives a lot,

817
00:41:47,880 --> 00:41:51,400
Speaker 1: especially in terms of you know, perception. So yeah, I

818
00:41:51,440 --> 00:41:52,960
Speaker 1: hope he's able to turn it around. I don't know

819
00:41:53,040 --> 00:41:57,080
Speaker 1: much about George Clavicle, but seems.

820
00:41:56,760 --> 00:42:00,160
Speaker 3: Like a good guy. I thought his press conference, which

821
00:42:00,239 --> 00:42:02,319
Speaker 3: ultimately means nothing, was pretty good. I thought he did

822
00:42:02,320 --> 00:42:04,400
Speaker 3: a pretty good job. It was pretty direct and transparent.

823
00:42:04,440 --> 00:42:08,080
Speaker 3: I mean, here's the other thing. Who has opinions about

824
00:42:08,080 --> 00:42:11,920
Speaker 3: the following coaches west or east of Salt Lake City

825
00:42:12,480 --> 00:42:21,279
Speaker 3: Clay Helton, Jonathan Smith, Nick Rolovich, Justin Wilcox, David Shaw, Jedfish,

826
00:42:21,600 --> 00:42:26,799
Speaker 3: like Carl Durrell, like a lot of I mean, the

827
00:42:26,840 --> 00:42:30,160
Speaker 3: consistent part of the sport is the profile of your

828
00:42:30,200 --> 00:42:35,520
Speaker 3: conference's coaches, and right now, there's not a lot moving

829
00:42:35,560 --> 00:42:37,200
Speaker 3: the needle on the West Coast in terms of coaches.

830
00:42:37,200 --> 00:42:39,520
Speaker 3: And that can change with consistent winning, and that can

831
00:42:39,600 --> 00:42:42,799
Speaker 3: change with creative marketing or whatever it takes. But this

832
00:42:42,840 --> 00:42:44,920
Speaker 3: is where the conference is right now in terms of

833
00:42:45,440 --> 00:42:50,560
Speaker 3: name recognition, face recognition, personality recognition. There's not a ton

834
00:42:51,320 --> 00:42:55,239
Speaker 3: for the PAC twelve to hang its hat on right now.

835
00:42:55,480 --> 00:42:57,760
Speaker 3: How much two people in Nashville or Miami or Columbus

836
00:42:57,760 --> 00:42:59,240
Speaker 3: know about Jimmy Lake nothing.

837
00:42:59,320 --> 00:43:02,000
Speaker 1: I don't know. It doesn't seem like a lot. This

838
00:43:02,040 --> 00:43:04,839
Speaker 1: is a fun question that we got from John, which

839
00:43:04,920 --> 00:43:08,440
Speaker 1: two teams could swap conferences and completely fit in with

840
00:43:08,480 --> 00:43:12,359
Speaker 1: their new conference. I have answers for this. Do you

841
00:43:12,400 --> 00:43:14,040
Speaker 1: have answers for this? I do have answers for this.

842
00:43:14,280 --> 00:43:16,359
Speaker 1: We I think we need to set some ground rules here.

843
00:43:16,480 --> 00:43:19,120
Speaker 1: It can't be like a Florida Florida State situation.

844
00:43:20,160 --> 00:43:24,000
Speaker 3: Meaning meaning if you to geographically close and similar in

845
00:43:24,040 --> 00:43:26,040
Speaker 3: some ways that it makes sense if you.

846
00:43:26,000 --> 00:43:29,840
Speaker 1: Put Florida in the SE or ASA excuse me, in

847
00:43:29,840 --> 00:43:33,360
Speaker 1: Florida State and the SEC is basically the same team.

848
00:43:33,800 --> 00:43:37,319
Speaker 1: So you can't exactly the same thing. You can't do that.

849
00:43:37,440 --> 00:43:39,840
Speaker 1: You can't consulting to both programs. I don't care. Okay,

850
00:43:40,200 --> 00:43:42,520
Speaker 1: you can't. You can't pick one that that that's that I.

851
00:43:42,520 --> 00:43:45,160
Speaker 3: Was I was going to say Clemson, South Carolina because

852
00:43:45,280 --> 00:43:47,799
Speaker 3: South Carolina will be perfect. It needs the competition South

853
00:43:47,840 --> 00:43:50,480
Speaker 3: Carolina could use. You know, you already have Carolina teams

854
00:43:50,480 --> 00:43:52,920
Speaker 3: in the ACC North Carolina, South Carolina.

855
00:43:53,040 --> 00:43:55,200
Speaker 1: So I feel like those are way too obvious. So

856
00:43:55,320 --> 00:43:57,480
Speaker 1: I started thinking about this a little bit more broadly,

857
00:43:58,200 --> 00:44:01,040
Speaker 1: and I'm looking for teams that kind of fit into

858
00:44:01,120 --> 00:44:05,520
Speaker 1: that hybrid role where school in one conference but definitely

859
00:44:05,920 --> 00:44:09,279
Speaker 1: culturally speaking, could fit into another. And it landed on

860
00:44:09,320 --> 00:44:13,680
Speaker 1: West Virginia. Ooh interesting, Yeah, on an island in the

861
00:44:13,680 --> 00:44:18,600
Speaker 1: Big Twelve, on an island in the Big Twelve. Was

862
00:44:18,840 --> 00:44:22,200
Speaker 1: in the Old School Big East, right, So there's a

863
00:44:22,320 --> 00:44:25,399
Speaker 1: bit of a cultural fit there, certainly more geographically fit

864
00:44:25,520 --> 00:44:30,200
Speaker 1: for like the ACC, let's say, culturally could fit in

865
00:44:30,239 --> 00:44:33,640
Speaker 1: with the SEC pretty well too. Sure. So West Virginia

866
00:44:33,680 --> 00:44:35,719
Speaker 1: to me feels like the ultimate wild card that we

867
00:44:35,800 --> 00:44:40,040
Speaker 1: could swap with somebody else. And you're talking about an

868
00:44:40,040 --> 00:44:45,400
Speaker 1: ACC school then geographically SEC school geographically, I think I

869
00:44:45,480 --> 00:44:49,920
Speaker 1: think you could swap West Virginia with a Clemson. Okay,

870
00:44:50,280 --> 00:44:53,840
Speaker 1: I think you could swap West Virginia with uh, what

871
00:44:53,880 --> 00:44:57,800
Speaker 1: about West Virginia and Louisville a school like a Louisville Yeah,

872
00:44:58,120 --> 00:45:01,319
Speaker 1: I think the Big Twelve. Yeah, I think you could

873
00:45:01,360 --> 00:45:07,400
Speaker 1: swap West Virginia with a school like Zuri obviously, so MISSOO.

874
00:45:07,600 --> 00:45:11,040
Speaker 3: Now, I think we can't do return two conferences if

875
00:45:11,080 --> 00:45:12,440
Speaker 3: I were to do that, if I were to do

876
00:45:12,480 --> 00:45:14,719
Speaker 3: a return to a conference that we already know that

877
00:45:14,760 --> 00:45:20,200
Speaker 3: there's some level of fit. I think Nebraska, Iowa State, Okay,

878
00:45:20,320 --> 00:45:24,760
Speaker 3: I already has the Big ten footprint, right, Nebraska returns

879
00:45:24,760 --> 00:45:28,560
Speaker 3: to the Big twelve, and I think one of the

880
00:45:28,560 --> 00:45:31,120
Speaker 3: final times those two teams played is two Big twelve teams.

881
00:45:31,120 --> 00:45:33,880
Speaker 3: It was a nine to seven game two thousand and

882
00:45:33,880 --> 00:45:35,759
Speaker 3: eight or two thousand and nine actually brought it up, Ty,

883
00:45:36,280 --> 00:45:39,239
Speaker 3: can we do an off season Divorceak? We could that

884
00:45:39,320 --> 00:45:40,279
Speaker 3: you have a seven game?

885
00:45:40,480 --> 00:45:41,000
Speaker 1: Do you have it.

886
00:45:42,600 --> 00:45:49,360
Speaker 2: Fumble, field goal, punt, punt, touchdown, punt interception, passing, touchdown, punt, punt, fumble, punt, punt, punt, fumble, fumble,

887
00:45:49,520 --> 00:45:54,600
Speaker 2: misfield goal, punt, punt, interception, punt interception, and mercifully end

888
00:45:54,760 --> 00:45:56,799
Speaker 2: of the nine seven years.

889
00:45:57,480 --> 00:45:59,600
Speaker 1: How did you pull up divorceak that quickly?

890
00:46:00,680 --> 00:46:05,279
Speaker 3: I have two hands, tie, oh, two hands, So that

891
00:46:05,320 --> 00:46:07,799
Speaker 3: would be my answer. Nebraska, I will state there. What

892
00:46:07,800 --> 00:46:14,120
Speaker 3: about Cincinnati, Syracuse? I mean sure, so Syracuse to the

893
00:46:14,160 --> 00:46:19,080
Speaker 3: American sure, it's definitely easier if you start doing this

894
00:46:19,239 --> 00:46:22,319
Speaker 3: on the group of five level. Well, yes and no,

895
00:46:23,520 --> 00:46:26,879
Speaker 3: because you still need to find a Power five team

896
00:46:26,880 --> 00:46:28,760
Speaker 3: who would fit in with a group of five conference,

897
00:46:28,760 --> 00:46:33,040
Speaker 3: which is not always the easiest and nicest thing to do.

898
00:46:33,800 --> 00:46:36,560
Speaker 3: But Syracuse is God. I look this up and I'm

899
00:46:36,560 --> 00:46:39,880
Speaker 3: trying to remember. I think they have not had two

900
00:46:40,040 --> 00:46:44,520
Speaker 3: winning seasons in a row in twenty years, So that's

901
00:46:44,560 --> 00:46:48,560
Speaker 3: where're like, Okay, maybe they're not a Power five ish program.

902
00:46:48,920 --> 00:46:51,640
Speaker 3: They didn't have last time they won three had three

903
00:46:51,680 --> 00:46:53,799
Speaker 3: winning seasons in a row was with Donovan McNabb in

904
00:46:53,840 --> 00:46:57,760
Speaker 3: the mid to late nineties. So it's not a program

905
00:46:57,760 --> 00:46:59,640
Speaker 3: that has always come through in terms of investing in

906
00:46:59,760 --> 00:47:01,960
Speaker 3: high and developing and recruiting.

907
00:47:01,480 --> 00:47:02,400
Speaker 1: And winning on the field.

908
00:47:02,800 --> 00:47:06,959
Speaker 3: So maybe they're not a perennial fit with a Power

909
00:47:07,000 --> 00:47:09,399
Speaker 3: five conference. Whereas Cincinnati has done it as a Big

910
00:47:09,440 --> 00:47:11,759
Speaker 3: East team, they're doing it as a group of five team.

911
00:47:12,200 --> 00:47:17,719
Speaker 3: And I mean, I think Cincinnati would be a divisional

912
00:47:17,760 --> 00:47:20,719
Speaker 3: favorite in the current ACC if they're not in the Atlantic,

913
00:47:20,800 --> 00:47:21,920
Speaker 3: right probably.

914
00:47:21,920 --> 00:47:24,000
Speaker 1: I just think West Virginia is the key. I think

915
00:47:24,080 --> 00:47:26,200
Speaker 1: you could you go a bunch of different ways on

916
00:47:26,239 --> 00:47:27,160
Speaker 1: a West Virginia.

917
00:47:27,800 --> 00:47:33,440
Speaker 3: What about Notre Dame Maryland? Yeah, Notre Dame in the

918
00:47:33,480 --> 00:47:36,520
Speaker 3: Big ten, Maryland back in the acc' if that's a

919
00:47:36,560 --> 00:47:40,800
Speaker 3: return exercise. Yeah, No, I don't like Maryland in the

920
00:47:40,800 --> 00:47:44,279
Speaker 3: Big ten. No, it feels weird still. I Maryland has

921
00:47:44,280 --> 00:47:46,280
Speaker 3: been in the Big ten for years upon years.

922
00:47:46,400 --> 00:47:49,120
Speaker 1: It feels weird. And I still think to myself, when's

923
00:47:49,160 --> 00:47:51,400
Speaker 1: Maryland playing Virginia.

924
00:47:51,360 --> 00:47:54,800
Speaker 3: When's Maryland playing NC State? Like it just it doesn't

925
00:47:55,200 --> 00:47:57,640
Speaker 3: fit for me, tie, No, it just doesn't.

926
00:47:57,920 --> 00:47:58,040
Speaker 1: No.

927
00:47:58,280 --> 00:48:00,640
Speaker 3: So, if we're counting Notre Dame as an CC school,

928
00:48:00,760 --> 00:48:01,840
Speaker 3: which we kind of can.

929
00:48:02,600 --> 00:48:07,200
Speaker 1: All right, let's go to let's go to here you go.

930
00:48:07,880 --> 00:48:12,200
Speaker 1: Speaking of specific teams, can Arizona State realistically win the

931
00:48:12,200 --> 00:48:16,319
Speaker 1: PAC twelve this year? Yes? From Devin so, a lot

932
00:48:16,360 --> 00:48:19,919
Speaker 1: of experience coming back. They've got a good defense. Eight

933
00:48:19,960 --> 00:48:21,160
Speaker 1: starters are returning.

934
00:48:21,360 --> 00:48:23,880
Speaker 3: Both of their corners are legit. I mean they're probably

935
00:48:23,920 --> 00:48:25,919
Speaker 3: like fourth or fifth round guys, but their NFL types

936
00:48:25,960 --> 00:48:26,279
Speaker 3: they're good.

937
00:48:26,320 --> 00:48:28,960
Speaker 1: I like Chase Lucas. Yeah, that's good. They do not

938
00:48:29,040 --> 00:48:33,080
Speaker 1: play Oregon in conference play, which is a bonus. So

939
00:48:33,200 --> 00:48:35,600
Speaker 1: I think there is plenty of reason to be excited

940
00:48:35,600 --> 00:48:38,880
Speaker 1: about ASU. I happen to see that the over under

941
00:48:38,920 --> 00:48:43,880
Speaker 1: four win total is nine, which is a okay sizable number.

942
00:48:44,360 --> 00:48:47,840
Speaker 1: I think nine would imply that, yeah, they're a contender

943
00:48:47,920 --> 00:48:50,399
Speaker 1: of some sort. Nine wins is a good season. YEP.

944
00:48:50,560 --> 00:48:58,040
Speaker 1: So at least from that standpoint, Vegas would sort of agree. Realistically,

945
00:48:58,239 --> 00:49:00,160
Speaker 1: could they Yeah, realistically sure.

946
00:49:01,440 --> 00:49:05,839
Speaker 3: They are a sort of little thing program where some

947
00:49:05,880 --> 00:49:09,080
Speaker 3: of the games that they've lost under Herm Edwards is like, man,

948
00:49:09,640 --> 00:49:12,640
Speaker 3: they're just not doing the little things to win winnable games.

949
00:49:12,680 --> 00:49:15,520
Speaker 3: Like last year against UCLA, I think they fumbled twice

950
00:49:15,560 --> 00:49:17,000
Speaker 3: in the red zone and they had two red zone

951
00:49:17,000 --> 00:49:20,479
Speaker 3: turnovers and lost that game. Like fumbled snaps, like very

952
00:49:20,520 --> 00:49:22,920
Speaker 3: fixable things. And I know last year was very strange.

953
00:49:23,280 --> 00:49:25,799
Speaker 3: But that's the issue to me because I like Jayden

954
00:49:25,800 --> 00:49:27,880
Speaker 3: and Daniels. I don't know if I love but I

955
00:49:27,920 --> 00:49:30,759
Speaker 3: really like Jayden Daniels. I like the running backs. They've

956
00:49:30,760 --> 00:49:34,000
Speaker 3: recruited at receiver pretty well. They've got some big bodies there.

957
00:49:35,440 --> 00:49:38,080
Speaker 3: They're in a really nice spot because there's no obvious

958
00:49:38,560 --> 00:49:42,760
Speaker 3: between who is it Chaz Brewer starting for Utah quarterback

959
00:49:42,800 --> 00:49:46,200
Speaker 3: this year? I think that's who starting a quarterback for Utah,

960
00:49:46,440 --> 00:49:50,719
Speaker 3: So that worries me the inconsistencies of USC looking as

961
00:49:50,760 --> 00:49:52,520
Speaker 3: bad as they looked early on last year against the

962
00:49:52,560 --> 00:49:56,040
Speaker 3: Arizona schools. I think UCLA, and we have another question

963
00:49:56,080 --> 00:49:58,440
Speaker 3: here about Chip Kelly in a hot seat, but I

964
00:49:58,440 --> 00:50:02,360
Speaker 3: think UCLA is quietly pretty scary in the South. I

965
00:50:02,480 --> 00:50:05,400
Speaker 3: am high on Newcla right now. I don't know how high,

966
00:50:05,680 --> 00:50:07,280
Speaker 3: but I am high on them. But that is to say,

967
00:50:07,560 --> 00:50:11,279
Speaker 3: everybody kind of seems like at their best outside of

968
00:50:11,600 --> 00:50:14,080
Speaker 3: right now Colorado and Arizona, but the other four schools

969
00:50:14,400 --> 00:50:17,360
Speaker 3: in the division, ASU and the LA schools and Utah

970
00:50:17,600 --> 00:50:20,040
Speaker 3: there b plus a minus at their best. There's nobody

971
00:50:20,040 --> 00:50:23,279
Speaker 3: who's obviously head and shoulders above, even though USC has

972
00:50:23,320 --> 00:50:25,480
Speaker 3: received the lion's share of the hype right now in

973
00:50:25,520 --> 00:50:29,480
Speaker 3: the South. So yeah, absolutely they could win the conference

974
00:50:29,520 --> 00:50:31,560
Speaker 3: because I don't think there's anybody in the North right now.

975
00:50:31,640 --> 00:50:33,320
Speaker 3: Oregon is in a really good place, but they don't

976
00:50:33,360 --> 00:50:37,400
Speaker 3: necessarily have the obvious answer at quarterback, So it seems

977
00:50:37,440 --> 00:50:41,799
Speaker 3: to a really nice place. If they start checking the

978
00:50:41,880 --> 00:50:44,799
Speaker 3: little thing boxes throughout the season.

979
00:50:44,560 --> 00:50:48,440
Speaker 1: It seems totally feasible to me. Yeah, certainly in the South.

980
00:50:49,280 --> 00:50:53,439
Speaker 1: Certainly in the South. It helps everybody has that achilles heel.

981
00:50:53,680 --> 00:50:56,520
Speaker 1: Everybody's got that Achilles heel. And it does help that

982
00:50:56,560 --> 00:51:00,239
Speaker 1: they do not play Oregon in conference play, that they

983
00:51:00,239 --> 00:51:02,160
Speaker 1: got a bunch of guys back on defense. It's always

984
00:51:02,239 --> 00:51:05,640
Speaker 1: a great building block. Got a good quarterback. So I

985
00:51:05,640 --> 00:51:08,239
Speaker 1: don't know, and I think it Limb from lim Win.

986
00:51:08,360 --> 00:51:11,280
Speaker 1: You always like that Arizona last year against the rival

987
00:51:11,320 --> 00:51:14,760
Speaker 1: Limb from lim seventy to seven or whatever it happened

988
00:51:14,800 --> 00:51:17,839
Speaker 1: to be. It was somewhere in there, staying out west frotastic.

989
00:51:17,920 --> 00:51:21,040
Speaker 1: You mentioned the Chip Kelly question. How hot is Chip

990
00:51:21,120 --> 00:51:25,120
Speaker 1: Kelly's seat at UCLA? So you noted here thank you

991
00:51:25,160 --> 00:51:29,880
Speaker 1: for doing this brutal back half of the schedule at Washington, Oregon,

992
00:51:30,000 --> 00:51:33,399
Speaker 1: at Utah, They've got Colorado, closed out the year at

993
00:51:33,480 --> 00:51:35,600
Speaker 1: USC and then home against cow So it's not an

994
00:51:35,640 --> 00:51:38,719
Speaker 1: easy stretch. Was it two years ago you thought Chip

995
00:51:38,800 --> 00:51:40,640
Speaker 1: Kelly was done? You thought he was going to be

996
00:51:40,680 --> 00:51:44,959
Speaker 1: like one year and done, you thought, and his heart

997
00:51:45,000 --> 00:51:48,960
Speaker 1: was not that. It feels like despite the fact that

998
00:51:51,239 --> 00:51:53,880
Speaker 1: you know schedules have been tough, it feels like they've

999
00:51:54,320 --> 00:51:56,640
Speaker 1: gotten better or there have been more reasons to be

1000
00:51:56,760 --> 00:52:01,279
Speaker 1: optimistic about UCLA football. Sure, Yeah, they nearly beat They

1001
00:52:01,280 --> 00:52:03,360
Speaker 1: gave away the SC game. They nearly beat Oregon with

1002
00:52:03,400 --> 00:52:07,120
Speaker 1: their backup quarterback. They beat ASU. There are pieces absolutely

1003
00:52:07,160 --> 00:52:11,040
Speaker 1: there for UCLA. I'm dtr has been there forever at quarterback.

1004
00:52:11,520 --> 00:52:13,600
Speaker 1: Their line has gotten better. They have a couple of

1005
00:52:13,680 --> 00:52:17,640
Speaker 1: legit dudes up front. On defense, their secondary has come along.

1006
00:52:18,560 --> 00:52:20,680
Speaker 1: To me, the big weakness with UCLA is sort of

1007
00:52:20,680 --> 00:52:22,239
Speaker 1: the same thing that we've talked about with a couple

1008
00:52:22,239 --> 00:52:24,600
Speaker 1: of other schools, like, for example, Iowa State. Who's in

1009
00:52:24,600 --> 00:52:28,759
Speaker 1: a much better position than UCLA. But who is pushing you?

1010
00:52:29,040 --> 00:52:31,840
Speaker 1: Who is pushing on the UCLA roster? Defense? Is in

1011
00:52:31,920 --> 00:52:34,480
Speaker 1: the PAC twelve down the field? Who is that gravitational

1012
00:52:34,600 --> 00:52:38,360
Speaker 1: guy for UCLA? On offense, they have decent players. They

1013
00:52:38,400 --> 00:52:40,200
Speaker 1: have good players. I like their their tight end. I

1014
00:52:40,200 --> 00:52:43,920
Speaker 1: think it's Greg Dulcech something like that. I always trust

1015
00:52:43,920 --> 00:52:48,360
Speaker 1: a good Greg. But who is who is that lethal weapon?

1016
00:52:49,640 --> 00:52:51,759
Speaker 1: I don't see that with UCLA, And that's that's the

1017
00:52:51,800 --> 00:52:54,360
Speaker 1: concern for me. If we're talking about, Okay, has UCLA

1018
00:52:54,440 --> 00:52:56,760
Speaker 1: arrived as UCLA that team ready to win the South?

1019
00:52:57,120 --> 00:53:01,799
Speaker 3: The answer is maybe, But USC has better receivers. Yeah,

1020
00:53:02,400 --> 00:53:04,560
Speaker 3: Utah had the better defense, and his better depth and

1021
00:53:04,719 --> 00:53:07,719
Speaker 3: is recruited to a system for far longer. USC is

1022
00:53:07,760 --> 00:53:10,759
Speaker 3: a higher level talent. ASU is higher level talent probably,

1023
00:53:11,080 --> 00:53:14,840
Speaker 3: but UCLA has the most proven high level coach.

1024
00:53:14,719 --> 00:53:17,479
Speaker 1: Of all of those places. And it's really interesting too

1025
00:53:17,960 --> 00:53:21,759
Speaker 1: that that would be the problem for Chip Kelly, right

1026
00:53:22,320 --> 00:53:25,400
Speaker 1: if you love Zach Sharboney, Yeah, but not not having

1027
00:53:25,400 --> 00:53:28,680
Speaker 1: the gravitational player, not having that downfield, not having just

1028
00:53:28,760 --> 00:53:33,680
Speaker 1: that guy. Now, he made those guys at Oregon. M hm,

1029
00:53:33,800 --> 00:53:36,160
Speaker 1: that was why we liked NFL types. Now they weren't

1030
00:53:36,239 --> 00:53:37,279
Speaker 1: NFL types, But it.

1031
00:53:37,239 --> 00:53:39,359
Speaker 3: Was Brailan Addison, it was Josh Hoff, it was Jeff Mail,

1032
00:53:39,360 --> 00:53:41,680
Speaker 3: these guys like who were just awesome in college and

1033
00:53:42,760 --> 00:53:45,719
Speaker 3: it doesn't seem like UCLA has even those level guys.

1034
00:53:45,480 --> 00:53:47,200
Speaker 1: But figured out a way to put those guys in

1035
00:53:47,280 --> 00:53:50,839
Speaker 1: space and make exciting plays. Yeah, I mean they had

1036
00:53:50,880 --> 00:53:55,280
Speaker 1: d Anthony Thomas and Michael James. Those were Heisman caliber

1037
00:53:55,320 --> 00:53:59,040
Speaker 1: all purpose and running back weapons that look, it's very

1038
00:53:59,040 --> 00:54:01,319
Speaker 1: tough because it was a very specific program he ran

1039
00:54:01,320 --> 00:54:02,920
Speaker 1: at Oregon and he was sort of ahead of the

1040
00:54:02,920 --> 00:54:05,160
Speaker 1: curve offensively, and now a lot of places have caught up,

1041
00:54:05,520 --> 00:54:08,879
Speaker 1: but those players are available at UCLA. It's a matter

1042
00:54:08,960 --> 00:54:13,040
Speaker 1: of Chip Kelly finding convincing developing, crafting a system around them.

1043
00:54:13,080 --> 00:54:14,560
Speaker 1: I think they're gonna be in a good place this year.

1044
00:54:14,600 --> 00:54:17,279
Speaker 1: I think they're going to be a B plus team. Yeah,

1045
00:54:17,280 --> 00:54:19,200
Speaker 1: but I don't think his seat is all that hot,

1046
00:54:19,360 --> 00:54:20,920
Speaker 1: nor do I think I don't think so either. To

1047
00:54:20,960 --> 00:54:23,399
Speaker 1: the point of the question, I think it's I think

1048
00:54:23,400 --> 00:54:25,520
Speaker 1: it's neuche ti. I don't think it's a cold seat.

1049
00:54:26,000 --> 00:54:29,080
Speaker 3: I think UCLA fans and administrators want to be and

1050
00:54:29,239 --> 00:54:32,360
Speaker 3: I don't believe this was the ad Martin Jarmond was

1051
00:54:32,360 --> 00:54:36,040
Speaker 3: not the guy who hired chip Kelly. But if they

1052
00:54:36,040 --> 00:54:40,360
Speaker 3: want UCLA to be nine in three ish pretty often,

1053
00:54:40,880 --> 00:54:43,520
Speaker 3: but nothing wild, but they want him to be good.

1054
00:54:43,520 --> 00:54:45,840
Speaker 3: They want him to beat USC every so often. I

1055
00:54:45,840 --> 00:54:48,960
Speaker 3: don't think there are crazy expectations right now. But when

1056
00:54:48,960 --> 00:54:50,839
Speaker 3: you pay chip Kelly what they're paying him, and when

1057
00:54:50,840 --> 00:54:52,520
Speaker 3: he brings the profile that he brings, there is that

1058
00:54:52,600 --> 00:54:56,520
Speaker 3: expectation that they're not, you know, embarrassing themselves. And it's

1059
00:54:56,560 --> 00:54:59,479
Speaker 3: clear that they've improved over the course of his time there,

1060
00:54:59,640 --> 00:55:03,319
Speaker 3: just in a probably frustrating way. There've been you know,

1061
00:55:03,480 --> 00:55:05,800
Speaker 3: game they've been the COVID stuff, there's been the games

1062
00:55:06,040 --> 00:55:07,600
Speaker 3: where they you know, I think they started the season

1063
00:55:07,600 --> 00:55:09,680
Speaker 3: out a couple of years ago and Cincinnati down like

1064
00:55:09,719 --> 00:55:13,280
Speaker 3: twenty five players, like they just they need to build

1065
00:55:13,400 --> 00:55:18,280
Speaker 3: that roster of eighty five capable, pretty good college football players.

1066
00:55:18,280 --> 00:55:21,239
Speaker 3: And hopefully it's now there, but it certainly wasn't those

1067
00:55:21,239 --> 00:55:22,040
Speaker 3: first couple of years.

1068
00:55:23,160 --> 00:55:26,520
Speaker 1: Let's go one more football and then two off topic

1069
00:55:26,880 --> 00:55:29,120
Speaker 1: to close, So sure, where are we going? You get

1070
00:55:29,120 --> 00:55:29,479
Speaker 1: to pick?

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00:55:30,560 --> 00:55:36,439
Speaker 3: Okay, if if Clem's in Ohio State were to lose

1072
00:55:36,480 --> 00:55:40,400
Speaker 3: any game in conference play, who would it be against?

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00:55:40,680 --> 00:55:43,640
Speaker 1: Just live happy? Wants to know, Just live happy, Just

1074
00:55:43,719 --> 00:55:48,200
Speaker 1: live happy. It it's a far easier question on the

1075
00:55:48,200 --> 00:55:50,759
Speaker 1: Ohio State side than it is on the times In side,

1076
00:55:50,800 --> 00:55:54,520
Speaker 1: just because the Big Ten has more killers. The Big

1077
00:55:54,560 --> 00:55:56,360
Speaker 1: Ten East is tough.

1078
00:55:56,840 --> 00:56:01,239
Speaker 3: Are there any sandwich situations for Ohio State or I

1079
00:56:01,320 --> 00:56:04,000
Speaker 3: mean getting a bye before playing Ohio State at home?

1080
00:56:05,920 --> 00:56:08,040
Speaker 1: I'm looking at Ohio State schedule, so I don't know

1081
00:56:08,040 --> 00:56:12,040
Speaker 1: about the others, but from their standpoint, I see no

1082
00:56:12,160 --> 00:56:15,760
Speaker 1: sandwiches here. From their standpoint, at least on the conference side,

1083
00:56:16,080 --> 00:56:19,719
Speaker 1: it's smooth sailing unless you're counting the Minnesota game in

1084
00:56:19,760 --> 00:56:24,000
Speaker 1: Week one, which we could have a conversation. Minnesota's got

1085
00:56:24,080 --> 00:56:27,560
Speaker 1: a season. Quarterback defense is probably gonna be an issue

1086
00:56:27,640 --> 00:56:32,000
Speaker 1: this year to Minneapolis, but there's enough talent there. It's

1087
00:56:32,080 --> 00:56:36,719
Speaker 1: opening week, it's a night game on Fox. Maybe you

1088
00:56:36,840 --> 00:56:40,759
Speaker 1: catch maybe you catch him. It's either at Minnesota week one.

1089
00:56:41,120 --> 00:56:44,000
Speaker 1: It's certainly not anybody else until you get to like

1090
00:56:44,960 --> 00:56:47,080
Speaker 1: late October. Yeah, early to.

1091
00:56:47,040 --> 00:56:50,759
Speaker 3: Late after Minnesota has developed some nice receivers lightly now,

1092
00:56:50,960 --> 00:56:55,600
Speaker 3: So Minnesota is a conversation at Indiana and it's a

1093
00:56:55,600 --> 00:56:59,440
Speaker 3: look ahead spot. Okay, head spot at Indiana could have

1094
00:56:59,520 --> 00:57:01,520
Speaker 3: that conference station. Also look at a head spot with

1095
00:57:01,520 --> 00:57:04,920
Speaker 3: Penn State on deck. Yeah, but Indiana scared them enough

1096
00:57:05,000 --> 00:57:07,319
Speaker 3: last year. And Ohio State has a buye before the

1097
00:57:07,360 --> 00:57:09,560
Speaker 3: Hoo Hoo Hoosiers. So that doesn't really move me.

1098
00:57:10,520 --> 00:57:14,200
Speaker 1: At Michigan to close out the year, I No, I

1099
00:57:14,200 --> 00:57:16,280
Speaker 1: don't think Michigan State's a bodyblow team right now. The

1100
00:57:16,280 --> 00:57:20,680
Speaker 1: week before now, I'd say in order, it's at Minnesota

1101
00:57:20,680 --> 00:57:24,360
Speaker 1: to open the air, and then at Indiana Penn State

1102
00:57:24,680 --> 00:57:27,720
Speaker 1: i'llween weekend. No, Penn State doesn't do them for me.

1103
00:57:27,840 --> 00:57:31,560
Speaker 3: In Columbus, either Sean Clifford or a new quarterback not

1104
00:57:31,640 --> 00:57:32,280
Speaker 3: as much.

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00:57:32,320 --> 00:57:34,680
Speaker 1: You could squint though, and you could make a case

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00:57:34,720 --> 00:57:36,880
Speaker 1: for Penn State. Yeah, I mean you could ugg lead

1107
00:57:36,920 --> 00:57:39,760
Speaker 1: up games with Ohio State, but not this version of one.

1108
00:57:39,800 --> 00:57:43,360
Speaker 1: You could. You could squint and come up with Michigan.

1109
00:57:44,440 --> 00:57:47,720
Speaker 1: I don't know who you're gonna squint and find. On

1110
00:57:47,760 --> 00:57:50,760
Speaker 1: the Clemson side, what's there?

1111
00:57:50,800 --> 00:57:52,520
Speaker 3: Do they have sandwiches? Do you have their schedule in

1112
00:57:52,520 --> 00:57:53,960
Speaker 3: front of you? I'm pulling there them up right now.

1113
00:57:55,000 --> 00:58:01,200
Speaker 3: Not really, so we're coming up with squint teams. Not

1114
00:58:01,360 --> 00:58:06,800
Speaker 3: really at pit the week before Florida State, but otherwise

1115
00:58:06,800 --> 00:58:07,880
Speaker 3: there's no sandwich there.

1116
00:58:07,960 --> 00:58:12,400
Speaker 1: Look at the schedule. No, the toughest game on this

1117
00:58:12,440 --> 00:58:14,200
Speaker 1: schedule is Week one.

1118
00:58:14,200 --> 00:58:16,680
Speaker 3: I mean NC State took a week a step forward

1119
00:58:17,000 --> 00:58:21,000
Speaker 3: last year from a crazy down twenty nineteen, and it's

1120
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Speaker 3: on the road. It's not really let down look ahead,

1121
00:58:23,160 --> 00:58:24,160
Speaker 3: but it is on the road.

1122
00:58:24,640 --> 00:58:27,080
Speaker 1: I don't know, I'm just the toughest game on this

1123
00:58:27,120 --> 00:58:30,720
Speaker 1: schedule is Week one against Georgia. That is not an

1124
00:58:30,720 --> 00:58:33,920
Speaker 1: answer to who in conference could be Clemson.

1125
00:58:36,160 --> 00:58:39,439
Speaker 3: The best quarterbacks on Clemson schedule, I mean the best

1126
00:58:39,440 --> 00:58:40,040
Speaker 3: one is JD.

1127
00:58:40,160 --> 00:58:43,360
Speaker 1: Daniels. But on the on the acc side of things,

1128
00:58:43,920 --> 00:58:50,120
Speaker 1: it's what Mackenzie Milton, it's Michale Cunningham, It's Yeh Malak.

1129
00:58:50,640 --> 00:58:52,160
Speaker 1: That's it. That's it. Those are the two guys.

1130
00:58:52,200 --> 00:58:55,240
Speaker 3: That's unless you're like a Kenny pick a guy. No

1131
00:58:56,480 --> 00:58:57,880
Speaker 3: South Carolina starting a new guy.

1132
00:58:58,120 --> 00:59:01,240
Speaker 1: My answer is pit My answer is pit God and

1133
00:59:01,320 --> 00:59:05,120
Speaker 1: they just slaughtered pit early killed him. My answer, I

1134
00:59:05,120 --> 00:59:06,200
Speaker 1: don't know who else to answer with.

1135
00:59:06,720 --> 00:59:09,440
Speaker 3: Well, somebody asked a question about what Florida State's ceiling is.

1136
00:59:09,600 --> 00:59:14,720
Speaker 3: If Mackenzie Milton is the absolute like explosion that he

1137
00:59:14,760 --> 00:59:17,480
Speaker 3: could could have been at UCF that he has been

1138
00:59:17,480 --> 00:59:21,000
Speaker 3: at UCF, what Florida State's ceiling is? But man, Florida

1139
00:59:21,000 --> 00:59:23,600
Speaker 3: Stake got pushed around way too much. On defense, they did.

1140
00:59:24,240 --> 00:59:27,080
Speaker 3: They hit the portal hard. There are pieces on offense.

1141
00:59:27,480 --> 00:59:31,240
Speaker 3: Mackenzie Milton is an upgrade over any quarterback they've played recently.

1142
00:59:31,560 --> 00:59:35,240
Speaker 3: When he is McKenzie Milton, he is McKenzie Milton physically.

1143
00:59:37,040 --> 00:59:39,840
Speaker 3: They lost key pieces on that defense last year that

1144
00:59:39,880 --> 00:59:41,840
Speaker 3: wasn't even that good. But no, they're another team that

1145
00:59:41,880 --> 00:59:45,880
Speaker 3: doesn't have the are No, they're no scaries on the

1146
00:59:45,920 --> 00:59:48,040
Speaker 3: outside for Florida State right now. They ran the ball

1147
00:59:48,080 --> 00:59:50,960
Speaker 3: pretty well, but you need you need to push Clemson

1148
00:59:51,240 --> 00:59:54,840
Speaker 3: around in the passing game to really really stand a chance.

1149
00:59:54,920 --> 00:59:57,560
Speaker 3: That's when Clemson is lost, when when somebody's able to

1150
00:59:57,600 --> 01:00:00,840
Speaker 3: match or exceed their speed and it just doesn't seem

1151
01:00:00,840 --> 01:00:03,760
Speaker 3: like that's Florida State. So I'm removing them from the

1152
01:00:03,760 --> 01:00:07,760
Speaker 3: conversation right now. But yeah, it's yeah, it has to

1153
01:00:07,760 --> 01:00:11,280
Speaker 3: be situational. It has to be you know, DJU is

1154
01:00:11,400 --> 01:00:16,320
Speaker 3: so down after getting confused and drilled by Georgia early

1155
01:00:16,400 --> 01:00:18,840
Speaker 3: and maybe NC State later in the month. Is you

1156
01:00:18,880 --> 01:00:21,720
Speaker 3: know able to be that team to finally take them

1157
01:00:21,720 --> 01:00:23,480
Speaker 3: down in the ACC But otherwise I don't know.

1158
01:00:23,600 --> 01:00:26,520
Speaker 1: We have four off topic questions here that we can

1159
01:00:26,800 --> 01:00:29,840
Speaker 1: rifle through very quickly. Are you're getting Let's get through

1160
01:00:29,840 --> 01:00:35,200
Speaker 1: all of them. Okay, these the first two are for you. Okay,

1161
01:00:35,440 --> 01:00:37,560
Speaker 1: what kind of pans of stones are you using for

1162
01:00:37,760 --> 01:00:39,720
Speaker 1: the conventional pizza oven?

1163
01:00:40,920 --> 01:00:45,880
Speaker 3: Go from my conventional kitchen oven. I use a baking steal.

1164
01:00:46,760 --> 01:00:49,080
Speaker 3: I think it's nerd Chef is the brand, But any

1165
01:00:49,080 --> 01:00:52,640
Speaker 3: of the steels will do because they retain I mean

1166
01:00:52,640 --> 01:00:54,360
Speaker 3: it's thermal mass tie. You can go on and on

1167
01:00:54,400 --> 01:00:57,680
Speaker 3: about this, but they retain and conduct heat better than

1168
01:00:57,720 --> 01:01:01,800
Speaker 3: the ceramic stones. What do you want to know? He said,

1169
01:01:01,840 --> 01:01:03,480
Speaker 3: steeler stone? Is that what he asked?

1170
01:01:03,720 --> 01:01:05,880
Speaker 1: He said, what kind of pans or stone? Oh in

1171
01:01:05,880 --> 01:01:06,240
Speaker 1: the pants?

1172
01:01:06,280 --> 01:01:10,280
Speaker 3: I use a Lloyd pan for the Detroit style pan pies.

1173
01:01:10,440 --> 01:01:14,840
Speaker 3: Lloyd Llow or excuse me, yd available on the should

1174
01:01:14,840 --> 01:01:15,440
Speaker 3: be on Amazon.

1175
01:01:15,480 --> 01:01:19,160
Speaker 1: They're really good. They're anandized aluminum. Rank your top five

1176
01:01:19,200 --> 01:01:22,760
Speaker 1: pizzas to make in which college football team is most

1177
01:01:22,960 --> 01:01:23,800
Speaker 1: like said pizza.

1178
01:01:25,320 --> 01:01:28,120
Speaker 3: I don't have a comparison. Just give me clacific teams.

1179
01:01:28,160 --> 01:01:30,000
Speaker 3: But I can tell you that if you want me

1180
01:01:30,040 --> 01:01:33,360
Speaker 3: to make analogs and analogies between the pizza making process and

1181
01:01:33,360 --> 01:01:37,760
Speaker 3: building a program, I most certainly can tie sourcing ingredients,

1182
01:01:37,840 --> 01:01:41,080
Speaker 3: paying attention to the process, not getting down on yourself early.

1183
01:01:41,480 --> 01:01:44,520
Speaker 3: A lot of comparisons there. I really I don't go

1184
01:01:44,960 --> 01:01:48,439
Speaker 3: too complicated with my pizzas and pizza toppings. I'm very

1185
01:01:48,480 --> 01:01:52,560
Speaker 3: focused on getting my dough right in terms of how

1186
01:01:52,560 --> 01:01:54,960
Speaker 3: wet the dough is, in terms of how how long

1187
01:01:55,000 --> 01:01:57,280
Speaker 3: I let it sit in the fridge. That's where my

1188
01:01:57,320 --> 01:02:01,240
Speaker 3: obsession lies. So my favorite pizza is probably I make

1189
01:02:01,280 --> 01:02:05,920
Speaker 3: one with pepperoni shaved garlic. I have a garlic mandolin

1190
01:02:06,040 --> 01:02:10,360
Speaker 3: tie and a spicy honey drizzle. That to me is

1191
01:02:10,400 --> 01:02:14,040
Speaker 3: a really nice combination of salty and spicy and sweetness

1192
01:02:14,080 --> 01:02:17,320
Speaker 3: from the garlic and the honey. That works really well

1193
01:02:17,320 --> 01:02:22,360
Speaker 3: with pizza. So yeah, pepperoni, garlic, hot honey, sassy molassie

1194
01:02:22,480 --> 01:02:26,360
Speaker 3: sweet sassy molasses, spicy sweet salty works really well. You know,

1195
01:02:26,400 --> 01:02:28,360
Speaker 3: get the fat from the cheese and the acid from

1196
01:02:28,360 --> 01:02:29,800
Speaker 3: the tomato sauce.

1197
01:02:29,840 --> 01:02:34,840
Speaker 1: It's wonderful. Bort. If you have bed sheets made out

1198
01:02:34,880 --> 01:02:37,120
Speaker 1: of cold cuts, what will the cold cuts be? I

1199
01:02:37,160 --> 01:02:38,520
Speaker 1: go turkey. I always go turkey.

1200
01:02:39,280 --> 01:02:43,160
Speaker 3: I think it's a terrible answer. Tie, of course, what

1201
01:02:43,240 --> 01:02:48,240
Speaker 3: do you want out of your bed sheet? Ultimately I

1202
01:02:48,280 --> 01:02:50,640
Speaker 3: want to say you can only select one cold cut.

1203
01:02:51,080 --> 01:02:52,280
Speaker 1: I want to stay warm.

1204
01:02:53,080 --> 01:02:54,800
Speaker 3: You want to stay warm, you want to be comfortable,

1205
01:02:54,960 --> 01:02:57,080
Speaker 3: but you also maybe want a little bit of breathe ability,

1206
01:02:57,920 --> 01:02:58,720
Speaker 3: seasonal comfort.

1207
01:02:59,800 --> 01:03:02,480
Speaker 1: Right, So, and you're talking just sheet.

1208
01:03:02,480 --> 01:03:05,800
Speaker 3: He didn't mention comforter Now bit a sheet get in

1209
01:03:05,920 --> 01:03:09,360
Speaker 3: because that's the similar texture. Lady Gaga wore like a

1210
01:03:09,440 --> 01:03:11,720
Speaker 3: roast beef thing once, didn't she?

1211
01:03:11,720 --> 01:03:14,600
Speaker 1: She did, so roast beef is not a bad answer.

1212
01:03:14,640 --> 01:03:17,640
Speaker 1: Roast beef is pretty smooth. You've seen that used in

1213
01:03:17,680 --> 01:03:20,560
Speaker 1: a practical application. That's the only reason I bring it up.

1214
01:03:20,720 --> 01:03:24,160
Speaker 3: I don't feel like roast beef breathes no. Well, no,

1215
01:03:24,880 --> 01:03:28,960
Speaker 3: because it is a fattier cold cut turkey is not

1216
01:03:29,000 --> 01:03:32,240
Speaker 3: a bad answer. I just if we're talking cold cuts,

1217
01:03:32,800 --> 01:03:35,360
Speaker 3: you're either there's a there's a grittiness to turkey, to

1218
01:03:35,480 --> 01:03:38,040
Speaker 3: roast turkey, which I love on a sandwich, and then

1219
01:03:38,160 --> 01:03:40,480
Speaker 3: smoke turkey's smoother, but it also strikes me as a

1220
01:03:40,520 --> 01:03:42,880
Speaker 3: little bit more oily.

1221
01:03:43,120 --> 01:03:45,280
Speaker 1: It's but it's not that oily. If you get like

1222
01:03:45,600 --> 01:03:51,080
Speaker 1: just regular sliced turkey, it's not that oily, okay, as

1223
01:03:51,120 --> 01:03:56,360
Speaker 1: compared to something like a salami sama, and there's a

1224
01:03:56,360 --> 01:03:58,000
Speaker 1: lot of fat, you're gonna get greasier, you know what

1225
01:03:58,040 --> 01:03:58,320
Speaker 1: I mean?

1226
01:03:58,360 --> 01:04:01,640
Speaker 3: Sheets, Yeah, for sure. No, that's a much higher fact content.

1227
01:04:02,160 --> 01:04:06,480
Speaker 3: My answer is probably pershudo. I think there is a

1228
01:04:06,600 --> 01:04:11,240
Speaker 3: delicate softness to pershudo. I think it would breathe well

1229
01:04:11,240 --> 01:04:13,600
Speaker 3: because it's cut pretty thick. There's a lot of salt

1230
01:04:13,640 --> 01:04:17,640
Speaker 3: in preshudo. There's a lot of salty texture. Though with this,

1231
01:04:18,200 --> 01:04:21,080
Speaker 3: Oh so you're saying it's pulling pulling liquid out of

1232
01:04:21,080 --> 01:04:24,440
Speaker 3: your skin, Yeah, I think I'm still gonna stick with

1233
01:04:24,440 --> 01:04:28,080
Speaker 3: pershudo because some of your your other porks are thicker cut,

1234
01:04:28,080 --> 01:04:30,800
Speaker 3: your SOAPROSDA, your ca I mean, Capacla wouldn't be bad either.

1235
01:04:31,640 --> 01:04:34,680
Speaker 1: If you're in a humid climate, maybe you go pershudo.

1236
01:04:35,600 --> 01:04:38,280
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think protrudo is my answer that that strikes

1237
01:04:38,280 --> 01:04:41,160
Speaker 3: me as the silkiest of the cold cut options.

1238
01:04:41,480 --> 01:04:43,200
Speaker 1: I think I go Turkey. I think I go I

1239
01:04:43,200 --> 01:04:44,240
Speaker 1: think I keep it simple, I.

1240
01:04:44,200 --> 01:04:47,200
Speaker 3: Go Turkey when I talked into a thinly shaved ham

1241
01:04:47,240 --> 01:04:50,360
Speaker 3: as well. Okay, final one here from Dan, one of

1242
01:04:50,400 --> 01:04:54,560
Speaker 3: our trust for ballers. What's your favorite streaming service? He says,

1243
01:04:54,560 --> 01:04:58,280
Speaker 3: I consider HBO in necessity, but Netflix probably has the

1244
01:04:58,280 --> 01:05:02,680
Speaker 3: most new content, Disney Plus has the most relevant catalog culturally,

1245
01:05:03,120 --> 01:05:05,480
Speaker 3: and Amazon Prime has some real bangers.

1246
01:05:06,680 --> 01:05:07,360
Speaker 1: I argue a.

1247
01:05:07,360 --> 01:05:09,800
Speaker 3: Very easy answer with this. So we're saying if the

1248
01:05:10,200 --> 01:05:12,640
Speaker 3: examples that Dan used good friend of the show, Dan

1249
01:05:12,720 --> 01:05:18,280
Speaker 3: Klobacar with a dicey mustache, I would say, if he

1250
01:05:18,360 --> 01:05:23,840
Speaker 3: still has it. Yeah, that's true if we are eliminating

1251
01:05:23,960 --> 01:05:29,160
Speaker 3: live sports, because some of these, like what does Hulu,

1252
01:05:29,760 --> 01:05:31,680
Speaker 3: They're a streaming service and I believe they have live

1253
01:05:31,720 --> 01:05:33,640
Speaker 3: TV and live sports. So if we're just talking about

1254
01:05:33,640 --> 01:05:38,120
Speaker 3: a streaming service with non live programming. I think the

1255
01:05:38,200 --> 01:05:40,800
Speaker 3: easy answer if we're looking at it in terms of

1256
01:05:41,520 --> 01:05:43,240
Speaker 3: if you are to be locked in a room for

1257
01:05:43,320 --> 01:05:46,280
Speaker 3: a year, which would leave you the most satisfied in

1258
01:05:46,360 --> 01:05:50,960
Speaker 3: terms of variety and depth of catalog, does that make

1259
01:05:51,040 --> 01:05:54,960
Speaker 3: sense it would be Netflix. I think it's HBO Max

1260
01:05:56,800 --> 01:06:00,680
Speaker 3: because there are so you have endless high quality series.

1261
01:06:00,800 --> 01:06:03,479
Speaker 3: Right if you haven't seen True Detective, if you haven't

1262
01:06:03,520 --> 01:06:05,440
Speaker 3: seen The Wire, if you haven't seen Oz, if you

1263
01:06:05,480 --> 01:06:08,960
Speaker 3: haven't seen the Sopranos, Like you have the Prestige television,

1264
01:06:09,800 --> 01:06:12,880
Speaker 3: you have the movies. Not a sponsor, HBO Max could

1265
01:06:12,920 --> 01:06:13,480
Speaker 3: be a sponsor.

1266
01:06:14,040 --> 01:06:15,440
Speaker 1: I wanted to because.

1267
01:06:15,200 --> 01:06:18,560
Speaker 3: I'm selling that out of them advertising at solidverble dot com.

1268
01:06:18,960 --> 01:06:22,360
Speaker 3: They also have the They have some of like random

1269
01:06:22,440 --> 01:06:25,240
Speaker 3: series is that are on other networks because they have

1270
01:06:25,280 --> 01:06:27,800
Speaker 3: the same parent companies, so like Rick and Morty. I

1271
01:06:27,800 --> 01:06:32,400
Speaker 3: think Friends is on HBO Max now so in terms

1272
01:06:32,400 --> 01:06:34,960
Speaker 3: of series, and they have movies. So I have been

1273
01:06:35,520 --> 01:06:38,920
Speaker 3: pretty thrilled with my HBO Max streaming experience and variety.

1274
01:06:40,200 --> 01:06:44,080
Speaker 1: I just feel like you get more from Netflix. There's more.

1275
01:06:44,120 --> 01:06:47,840
Speaker 1: This is great, more variety, and I agree that the

1276
01:06:47,960 --> 01:06:52,400
Speaker 1: highs are definitely higher with HBO, But lately I've been

1277
01:06:52,440 --> 01:06:56,000
Speaker 1: getting into those like B minus movies that are Netflix

1278
01:06:56,040 --> 01:06:59,520
Speaker 1: only that are just good enough, Like there's a Louilewis

1279
01:06:59,560 --> 01:07:01,520
Speaker 1: in all of them. There's a little bit of Hallmark

1280
01:07:01,600 --> 01:07:03,919
Speaker 1: Channel there where there's a formula and they don't veer

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Speaker 1: from it, and the movies are only going to be

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Speaker 1: so good, but they're good enough to keep you entertained.

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Speaker 1: So for my money, Netflix, Netflix has anything you're into

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Speaker 1: more often than that doesn't have.

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Speaker 3: They don't have the well, I guess it depends on

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Speaker 3: what you're into, but I don't think they have necessarily.

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Speaker 3: The depth of the prestige series is maybe a lot

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Speaker 3: of like very like into it for thirty six hours

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Speaker 3: reality shows. They have those, right, and they have like

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Speaker 3: hey here are like this is hot lake House, you like,

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Speaker 3: watch it for seven minutes You're like, Okay, I get it.

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Speaker 1: They have a lot of those. They do, but I

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Speaker 1: don't know they do no. I think for me it's

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Speaker 1: it's Netflix. I think for me it's Netflix because there's

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Speaker 1: a lot of again I hear what you're saying on

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Speaker 1: the big budget, top shelf premium series. Netflix has a

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Speaker 1: lot of TV stuff that could hold you over for

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Speaker 1: a while.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, no, yeah, I mean it just depends on your

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Speaker 3: taste obviously, and Disney Plus everybody says is great. I

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Speaker 3: just I have found in looking through that that there

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Speaker 3: are some things I want to watch, but by and large,

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Speaker 3: I don't know. I don't need to go back and

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Speaker 3: rewatch the Marvel movies I've seen.

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Speaker 1: I don't.

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Speaker 3: I found myself not really wanting to go rewatch Star

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Speaker 3: Wars movies, even if I've liked the specific one whatever.

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Speaker 3: So there's a lot there, and I think it's better

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Speaker 3: if you're also including like children with Disney Plus, but

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Speaker 3: that doesn't.

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Speaker 1: Move me as much.

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Speaker 3: I just yeah, I think HBO has more of those

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Speaker 3: for me been meaning to watches, and so that would

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Speaker 3: be nice if I were locked in a room for

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Speaker 3: a year.

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Speaker 1: Mayor v'stown. Very good, by the way, good sense, per you,

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Speaker 1: very good accents. They did a good job. Okay, thank

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Speaker 1: you one, thank you all for writing in. They made it.

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Speaker 1: We are back. We are building towards the twenty twenty

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Speaker 1: one college football season. Yes, don't forget to follow along

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Speaker 1: on all the social media channels. Don't forget to go

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Speaker 1: out to Verballers Dot com, where you can find all

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Speaker 1: of our Patreon content, including the video for this very episode.

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Speaker 1: You'll catch some of the goofs that I edit out

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Speaker 1: of the audio feed. Not too many of them today,

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Speaker 1: that's true. A couple of little Easter eggs for all y'all,

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Speaker 1: and don't forget. If you are interested in helping out

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Speaker 1: as a social media intern, it is submissions at soliverble

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Speaker 1: dot com. Let us know what you've done, let us

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Speaker 1: know what you could bring to the Table're interested first,

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Speaker 1: definitely in hearing from the verballerhood once more so fun show, Dan.

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Speaker 1: I appreciate your cheese run from the West Coast, twelve

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Speaker 1: pounds of cheese.

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Speaker 3: I'll let you know how it goes. I did also

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Speaker 3: bring to the West Coast and back from the West

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Speaker 3: Coast both my baking scale and a bench scraper for

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Speaker 3: making No, okay, that's very light and small.

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Speaker 1: You need that. You need to have that with you.

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Speaker 3: I did bring a pan back as well from the coast.

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Speaker 3: I ordered a pan to make my pan pies to

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Speaker 3: to the West Coast, and I decided to bring it

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Speaker 3: back because it'd be nice to have another one.

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Speaker 1: I had the room. What do you want me to

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Speaker 1: tell you, for that guy over there, my good friend

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Speaker 1: Dan Rubinstein, for myself, Tie Hilt and Brand. Thank you

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Speaker 1: so much for coming on back, asking your questions, and

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Speaker 1: for bearing with us here through our silliness. Daniel, stay solid, hey,

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Speaker 1: please