WEBVTT - Mick Shots: Award Winning 0:00:03.920 --> 0:00:06.480 The following. He's a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com 0:00:06.519 --> 0:00:16.320 and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. This is Mick Shot 0:00:16.520 --> 0:00:20.520 screening live on Dallas Cowboys dot Com and the official 0:00:20.680 --> 0:00:25.200 Dallas Cowboys at now Here are Bill Jones, Everson Wolves, 0:00:25.520 --> 0:00:32.080 and Nicky Spagnola. And it is a Thursday edition of 0:00:32.200 --> 0:00:36.360 mix Shots. We have pulled Mickey Spagnola away from the 0:00:36.400 --> 0:00:39.480 practice field where he has been a hard at work 0:00:39.560 --> 0:00:43.560 and he's just getting a tan. All he's doing. He's 0:00:43.560 --> 0:00:46.559 getting darker, that is all he's getting. That comes with 0:00:46.680 --> 0:00:51.120 the territory spending the next forty five minutes. Vicky's got 0:00:51.600 --> 0:00:55.640 he's got a legal pad, he's got a notepad, he's 0:00:55.680 --> 0:00:59.920 got the press releases, game notes, stats, he's got every 0:01:00.000 --> 0:01:02.600 everything he's gonna fill us in. You guys might not 0:01:02.840 --> 0:01:09.679 talk today. Oh it's apisode. Here we go, yang, Yeah, 0:01:09.720 --> 0:01:14.160 there you go. Yeah, full of mix shots, right, this 0:01:14.480 --> 0:01:18.800 edition of mix Shots. And the Cowboys have just completed 0:01:18.880 --> 0:01:21.880 a practice out on the practice field on a beautiful 0:01:21.959 --> 0:01:25.399 day for practice here right, Yes, absolutely, and this will 0:01:25.480 --> 0:01:30.560 probably be their hardest practice for this week since it's 0:01:30.560 --> 0:01:33.840 a short week. Um, didn't look like they head their pad. 0:01:33.920 --> 0:01:37.920 Maybe they had shells on. They went easy yesterday kind 0:01:37.920 --> 0:01:40.319 of a walk through. It did look like everybody didn't 0:01:40.360 --> 0:01:44.600 have a helmet. Uh. And then they well, yesterday today 0:01:44.360 --> 0:01:47.160 they had their helmets on. Yeah. Today they okay, So yeah, 0:01:47.360 --> 0:01:50.040 so tomorrow will be kind of a rest day and 0:01:50.080 --> 0:01:54.120 then they'll go at it on Thursday. Two notes. Randy 0:01:54.160 --> 0:01:57.840 Gregory looked like he got somewhat of a veteran day, 0:01:58.080 --> 0:02:00.160 and I gave him grief for when I saw I'm 0:02:00.240 --> 0:02:03.360 walking off I said, where are you going? He goes, 0:02:03.480 --> 0:02:07.920 you know, I'm getting older. I said, oh, well, I said, 0:02:08.000 --> 0:02:11.560 you are not old enough to qualify for a veteran day. 0:02:11.560 --> 0:02:15.440 And he laughed and kept going right. Uh, Tony Pollard 0:02:15.440 --> 0:02:17.720 missed it. He had a personal issue to take care of. 0:02:17.840 --> 0:02:21.160 So I knew those two things from the practice. And 0:02:21.360 --> 0:02:25.720 this week when they were doing the individual drills that 0:02:25.760 --> 0:02:29.040 we get to see Michael Parsons was working with the 0:02:29.080 --> 0:02:33.160 linebackers again. So very interesting to see. I don't know 0:02:33.720 --> 0:02:37.760 what kind of offense, Uh Carolina runs. You know, do 0:02:37.880 --> 0:02:40.040 they do a lot of base, because if they're in base, 0:02:40.120 --> 0:02:42.720 they probably want them as they just traded away a 0:02:42.800 --> 0:02:47.440 tight end, Well, they got to have another tight end. No, 0:02:47.560 --> 0:02:52.200 we can't. They're gonna be like that story out of 0:02:52.240 --> 0:02:55.720 Detroit when they cut the kickers and oh, Matt campbelly, 0:02:55.960 --> 0:02:58.440 he's not gonna have kicked the ball. He's going for it. 0:02:58.520 --> 0:03:03.320 But actually they like the tight end that's replacing Dan Tremble. 0:03:04.040 --> 0:03:07.800 But more more likely the reason that Parsons might be 0:03:07.919 --> 0:03:10.799 used at linebacker, they use they use a fullback quite 0:03:10.840 --> 0:03:15.240 a bit. Ah, Giovanni Rizzy really is his name from 0:03:15.240 --> 0:03:21.840 the Old Country. Yeah, and in fact from the Old Country. 0:03:22.160 --> 0:03:24.840 As you talk, I will look up how many snaps 0:03:24.840 --> 0:03:28.000 they're fullback back last week, and so that's a significant 0:03:28.080 --> 0:03:31.320 difference from what we normally see week to week in 0:03:31.400 --> 0:03:34.760 the National Football League. And that would be and the 0:03:34.840 --> 0:03:38.240 fact that the Cowboys get Bradley and I back, right, 0:03:39.560 --> 0:03:43.760 Mike didn't say that this morning. Might No, might they 0:03:43.800 --> 0:03:46.360 get brat? You said, might they get back? He said, 0:03:46.360 --> 0:03:50.280 there was nothing different on the COVID front. Yeah, So 0:03:50.800 --> 0:03:55.920 the fact they've had a practice their main practice today, right, Okay, 0:03:56.040 --> 0:03:59.800 now we're moving into Friday, and so so who's playing 0:03:59.840 --> 0:04:02.800 d pensive end? I would maybe they liked what they 0:04:02.840 --> 0:04:08.000 saw from Chauncy Gholston Basham, Yeah, I was gonna say 0:04:08.000 --> 0:04:13.320 Basham and then Gregory and it's hard not to like anyone. 0:04:13.400 --> 0:04:16.120 They got into the game against the Eagles because the 0:04:16.320 --> 0:04:21.000 entire front line was getting decimated. So yeah, but it 0:04:21.080 --> 0:04:23.720 looked like, I mean, just now they can change. But 0:04:24.000 --> 0:04:26.960 I don't think they would practice just to fake us out. 0:04:27.040 --> 0:04:29.000 Oh they're going to report he's at linebacker if I 0:04:29.080 --> 0:04:33.200 were really at defensive end. Right. Um, So there must 0:04:33.240 --> 0:04:36.000 be something that they saw in the Carolina offense that 0:04:36.320 --> 0:04:40.880 the fullback Giovanni ritchie r c c I there you go. 0:04:42.120 --> 0:04:47.440 Ricci Okay had eighteen snaps on offense at Houston, fifteen 0:04:47.480 --> 0:04:50.320 against New Orleans and twelve against the Job Okay, Well, 0:04:50.400 --> 0:04:54.000 there you go. Every week he's getting fifteen to eighteen 0:04:54.279 --> 0:04:57.440 staff and they're probably thinking, if you know, to give 0:04:58.279 --> 0:05:01.520 Hubbard some help, maybe he needs a fullback out there 0:05:01.600 --> 0:05:07.560 to without McCaffrey. It's just part of their base. That 0:05:08.040 --> 0:05:10.080 might be their base offense because they were doing it 0:05:10.200 --> 0:05:12.760 with McCaffrey in there, and and you know what, you know, 0:05:12.880 --> 0:05:15.320 as much as McCaffrey goes out, maybe they felt like 0:05:15.440 --> 0:05:19.680 a fullback in the middle there helps out with pass protection. Well, 0:05:19.720 --> 0:05:21.800 it's always good to have a fullback. You've got somebody 0:05:21.880 --> 0:05:24.960 small as McCaffrey back there. Just opened up that whole, 0:05:25.240 --> 0:05:29.719 dicing up the middle. So once again Everson Wall's name 0:05:29.920 --> 0:05:34.880 comes up again. Oh yeah, the discussion. So you usual good. 0:05:35.080 --> 0:05:41.599 You saw trey Vin Diggs was named the Defensive Player 0:05:41.640 --> 0:05:50.400 of the Month in the NFCUM I hadn't started that. Yeah, 0:05:50.480 --> 0:05:53.160 when did? When did they start the award? Because this 0:05:53.480 --> 0:05:57.760 note says he's the first Defensive Player of the Month 0:05:57.839 --> 0:06:03.679 for the Cowboys, and he joins defensive end DeMarcus Lawrence 0:06:04.000 --> 0:06:09.040 twenty seventeen and linebacker Sean Lee twenty thirteen in twenty 0:06:09.080 --> 0:06:12.160 eleven as the only Cowboys to earn the honor. I'm 0:06:12.200 --> 0:06:16.080 thinking they started it in twenty eleven. I mean DeMarcus Lawrence, 0:06:16.200 --> 0:06:21.120 never DeMarcus Ware. DeMarcus Ware never won that. Come on, 0:06:21.240 --> 0:06:24.160 I'm thinking they started it. Yeah, that must fairly recently, 0:06:24.160 --> 0:06:26.880 the one when they used to do of the week. 0:06:27.000 --> 0:06:32.040 Okay time, when when did Twitter start? That's about it. 0:06:32.240 --> 0:06:34.560 You're looking for things to fill up. Don't ask me. 0:06:34.880 --> 0:06:39.320 Ask me when I started Twitter. You know, Twitter started 0:06:39.320 --> 0:06:42.360 about ten years ago, so that's probably when they started 0:06:42.400 --> 0:06:47.240 that award. So they asked they asked McCarthy if he 0:06:47.320 --> 0:06:49.640 had announced that to the team at the team meeting 0:06:49.720 --> 0:06:52.840 today in the press conference, and he said, no, Rich 0:06:53.000 --> 0:06:55.760 didn't tell me in time meeting. Del Ruth eat it. No, 0:06:55.960 --> 0:06:58.520 they actually don't announce it until about mid warning that 0:06:58.680 --> 0:07:02.960 finally let it go. So when we were out there, Uh, 0:07:03.480 --> 0:07:06.160 someone asked him about, well, how did you find out 0:07:06.320 --> 0:07:10.160 and he said, uh, Mica told me, And they said Mica. 0:07:10.280 --> 0:07:12.960 He goes, yeah, you know, Mica, he's on social media, right, 0:07:13.320 --> 0:07:15.480 he goes, He goes, I'm not on it. He goes, 0:07:15.520 --> 0:07:18.800 I stay off the internet. So he was the one 0:07:18.840 --> 0:07:21.000 that told him. I rest my case. The reason that 0:07:21.120 --> 0:07:23.200 they do the Player of the Month is to fill 0:07:23.320 --> 0:07:26.680 up a Twitter feed. And by the way, guys, nineteen 0:07:26.880 --> 0:07:30.600 eighty six was the first time of the month. Yes, 0:07:30.920 --> 0:07:36.440 nineteen eighty six, so there was no Cowboy player Charles Haley. 0:07:36.560 --> 0:07:40.000 Cowboys had the number one ranked defense in the league. 0:07:41.800 --> 0:07:44.760 They won the Super Bowl. I went back and looked 0:07:44.960 --> 0:07:50.000 Bill and no that had won it. But with San Sanrasis. 0:07:50.080 --> 0:07:52.880 And we've spent all this time complaining about no Cowboys 0:07:52.920 --> 0:07:56.400 in the Hall of Fame. What about no Cowboy defensive players? 0:07:56.520 --> 0:07:58.960 I think that's the pre requisite right there, he starts 0:07:59.000 --> 0:08:01.280 from the player of the month, player of the week first, 0:08:01.280 --> 0:08:03.040 didn't player of the month? You don't get that. If 0:08:03.080 --> 0:08:05.080 you shout out of that, you're not going to be 0:08:05.200 --> 0:08:08.600 part of the legacy of the NFL has actually won 0:08:08.680 --> 0:08:12.320 it twice. By the way, San Francisco, Well, you know 0:08:12.440 --> 0:08:15.360 what that ninety two season, and I don't know if 0:08:15.840 --> 0:08:18.880 anybody has a media guide, but I want to say 0:08:18.920 --> 0:08:22.400 they ended up with the number one defense and I 0:08:22.520 --> 0:08:25.440 don't know if they had even a player named to 0:08:25.520 --> 0:08:28.680 the Pro Bowl that year, but you shouldn't be able 0:08:28.720 --> 0:08:32.319 to find that out real quick. Interesting, which is I 0:08:32.520 --> 0:08:35.319 think that's what I remember seeing. Uh And if it 0:08:35.520 --> 0:08:39.839 was two, is one or two maybe at the at 0:08:39.880 --> 0:08:47.840 the most because um Darren Woodson wasn't starting at that point. Well, 0:08:47.880 --> 0:08:52.160 it wasn't until the playoff run in ninety two before 0:08:52.200 --> 0:08:56.760 everyone realized that Cowboys had a Super Bowl team. Knew 0:08:57.000 --> 0:08:59.439 early early that season. You remember the Monday Night game, 0:08:59.480 --> 0:09:03.599 which is, well, we're probably looking at pretty close to 0:09:03.800 --> 0:09:07.040 thirty years ago right now. First, it was the first 0:09:07.080 --> 0:09:10.200 week of October ninety two, be twenty nine years ago. 0:09:10.360 --> 0:09:12.439 There was the Monday Night game at Philadelphia where the 0:09:12.480 --> 0:09:15.720 Eagles just killed them. Yeah, thirty one to seven. There 0:09:15.800 --> 0:09:18.480 was a big celebration before the game out there. Yea. 0:09:19.040 --> 0:09:23.280 And in fact, this is how TV has changed and 0:09:23.600 --> 0:09:26.120 just the way the media covers the NFL. I spent 0:09:26.400 --> 0:09:32.080 the entire week out in Philadelphia, uh, covering that leading 0:09:32.200 --> 0:09:34.640 up to the game. Ye for a regular season game, 0:09:34.679 --> 0:09:36.880 a Monday night game, and we spent four or five days. 0:09:37.160 --> 0:09:40.839 This was in Philly, and uh and beat writers from 0:09:41.000 --> 0:09:43.880 here would go and cover the opposing team. I mean 0:09:43.920 --> 0:09:46.360 I spent the whole week going into the Eagles locker 0:09:46.440 --> 0:09:50.559 room that week. Whatever. That's how we two. Okay, So 0:09:50.679 --> 0:09:58.319 when was King Wat's uh the division? Yeah, December ninety one, No, 0:09:58.440 --> 0:10:00.960 they qualified as well, that was very cool. That's when 0:10:01.000 --> 0:10:04.680 they lost to Detroit kat the Bears and then lost 0:10:04.760 --> 0:10:08.960 in Detroit. So ninety two Pro Bowl, Okay, ninety two 0:10:09.240 --> 0:10:11.439 Pro Bowl. I was looking at eighty two. That was 0:10:11.520 --> 0:10:18.520 Onnyway when all right, ninety two Pro Bowl. You had 0:10:18.720 --> 0:10:23.640 these fine defensive players for the Cowboys, Troy Eateman, Michael Irvin, 0:10:23.720 --> 0:10:27.760 Nate Newton, Jane Novacheck, Immtt Smith, and Mark Stepnosky. You 0:10:27.840 --> 0:10:32.000 are there were no defensive players, not one yeah, and 0:10:32.160 --> 0:10:35.400 they were the number one defense. Okay, love about ninety three, 0:10:35.440 --> 0:10:37.480 I bet there was a breakthrough. Well that's when you 0:10:37.559 --> 0:10:45.760 had Thomas Everett and Russell Maryland. Yeah, Ken Norton, that's it. 0:10:46.040 --> 0:10:53.280 And that's it. There were three that Charles Hayley, this 0:10:53.400 --> 0:11:01.000 is when they started coming, Leon Letton, Darren Woodson. That's 0:11:01.120 --> 0:11:08.680 ninety four. There's three, okay, five Charles Haley, Darren Woodson too. 0:11:09.760 --> 0:11:14.680 So when did I make it? Five? Was his first year? Yeah? Okay, 0:11:14.760 --> 0:11:17.360 so then and uh and then things started for half 0:11:17.400 --> 0:11:25.199 of all right, and so yeah, like eighty five. My 0:11:25.360 --> 0:11:30.600 other good, my other good, uh, Mick shot on Trey 0:11:30.679 --> 0:11:35.120 Von Diggs was they asked him he if he was 0:11:35.280 --> 0:11:40.640 aware that or what if he knew? Uh that he 0:11:40.840 --> 0:11:44.920 was the first player since eighty five when uh, Everson 0:11:45.000 --> 0:11:47.960 Walls had three interceptions, one in each of the first 0:11:48.000 --> 0:11:50.319 three games, and you were the next player to do that? 0:11:51.040 --> 0:11:56.240 Did you even know who Everson Walls was? And he 0:11:56.400 --> 0:12:02.719 goes U, I googled him. Wow, you got Google. I 0:12:02.840 --> 0:12:06.160 got googled. It is with burning yesterday. I was wondering 0:12:06.240 --> 0:12:08.400 what the heck was so he googled him. Here in 0:12:08.400 --> 0:12:10.360 the last couple of days or when he found out 0:12:10.440 --> 0:12:14.440 today about when he found out about it, and they 0:12:14.520 --> 0:12:17.439 said that was since eighty five. And they said, so 0:12:17.559 --> 0:12:19.400 you never met at me goes now, never met him, 0:12:19.480 --> 0:12:21.559 never heard of me? You never heard of me? I 0:12:21.640 --> 0:12:24.120 mean with all my pictures around here, got they should 0:12:24.760 --> 0:12:27.240 you should know. I mean I've got so many. I 0:12:27.320 --> 0:12:30.360 mean I'm you know, in the locker room and all 0:12:30.400 --> 0:12:32.040 of that, I mean all up and down the wall, 0:12:32.520 --> 0:12:34.600 you know, three or four, five times in the stadium. 0:12:34.679 --> 0:12:36.800 I mean you can you can find my picture on 0:12:37.400 --> 0:12:41.680 one level. Try every everybody. Everybody's heard of Emerson Walls. 0:12:44.520 --> 0:12:47.440 He called me Emerson less. That's a good thing. Did 0:12:47.520 --> 0:12:50.760 he call me Emerson when I googled him? They don't. 0:12:51.000 --> 0:12:53.319 They all did wrong. They were the names. Your name 0:12:53.440 --> 0:12:56.520 is not with the picture, probably probably not, like okay, 0:12:56.800 --> 0:12:59.840 you know who you are. These young guys. Plus, they're 0:13:00.080 --> 0:13:03.400 not walking around this side. I have walked through that 0:13:03.520 --> 0:13:09.280 locker room and didn't draw not one look several times. 0:13:09.800 --> 0:13:13.320 So now these young kids are into social media because, 0:13:13.400 --> 0:13:16.240 like you said, into Twitter, you should have had Player 0:13:16.280 --> 0:13:20.200 of the Year for eighty one. Yeah. Now they were 0:13:20.240 --> 0:13:23.320 two busy telling me what I didn't do. That's the way. 0:13:23.520 --> 0:13:25.480 See that's the way it was in the eighties. But 0:13:25.640 --> 0:13:28.520 pro about what you didn't do? Yeah, of course Pro 0:13:28.640 --> 0:13:32.120 Bowl your names on the wall there by the locker room. 0:13:32.600 --> 0:13:34.760 Uh yeah, I would imagine I don't know where the 0:13:34.800 --> 0:13:37.360 cornerbacks are, and they list all the guys that were 0:13:37.520 --> 0:13:40.079 Pro Bowlers at those positions. I have not said you 0:13:40.160 --> 0:13:43.880 didn't walk that far yet. I have not. Well you 0:13:43.960 --> 0:13:48.200 can't get there now, Hey, I couldn't get back there then, okay, 0:13:48.360 --> 0:13:51.480 so let's just be real. So that was Yeah, it 0:13:51.559 --> 0:13:55.160 was very cool though, very cool. Look, I'm looking at 0:13:55.240 --> 0:13:57.760 David More just sent me a tech said, Dig said, 0:13:57.800 --> 0:14:06.520 he googled you. He's late on the further. That's good. Damn, 0:14:06.600 --> 0:14:10.559 I'm a relic getting so And you know what I 0:14:10.679 --> 0:14:14.800 thought when it's weird thought, but when when he had 0:14:14.840 --> 0:14:17.560 to pick six the other day, and especially Monday night football, 0:14:17.720 --> 0:14:20.480 I said, well, he just he's just running himself right 0:14:20.520 --> 0:14:23.360 into the Pro Bowls, right, you know, third game of 0:14:23.440 --> 0:14:27.000 the season and Trayvon Diggs just won't him was spotting 0:14:27.000 --> 0:14:28.560 the Pro Bowl and they were trying to bring up 0:14:28.600 --> 0:14:30.640 so Tan. I think he ended up getting an interception 0:14:30.800 --> 0:14:33.480 or two this year, and they they've been trying to 0:14:33.560 --> 0:14:36.760 pump him up. But when Diggs did that on Monday night, Yeah, 0:14:36.880 --> 0:14:40.000 we've just be doing in a time. And yeah, and 0:14:40.200 --> 0:14:42.360 especially the fact that he's got one and every game 0:14:42.440 --> 0:14:45.320 so far, you know, and the other I mean, that 0:14:45.440 --> 0:14:48.120 wasn't the only played that game. I mean, I thought 0:14:48.160 --> 0:14:51.320 he had more than three pass fake ups. But that's 0:14:51.320 --> 0:14:53.360 what's back said. They gave him credit for. He was 0:14:53.480 --> 0:14:56.160 all over the field at first. It started off kind 0:14:56.160 --> 0:14:57.960 of weird. He's letting a tight end kind of shake 0:14:58.040 --> 0:15:00.880 him down in the beginning of the first drive, and 0:15:01.240 --> 0:15:02.880 what the heck that was? He let the tight end 0:15:02.880 --> 0:15:05.760 beat him across the middle, he slips and I think 0:15:05.760 --> 0:15:08.080 it was God that he goes another twenty yards after that, 0:15:08.520 --> 0:15:11.360 but no more problems after that, Okay. Ed asked him 0:15:11.360 --> 0:15:13.000 what he thought about it. He said, it's an honor. 0:15:13.080 --> 0:15:15.920 I really appreciated it. He goes, but I got to focus. 0:15:16.160 --> 0:15:18.840 I want to win it again, right about that, Okay, 0:15:18.960 --> 0:15:21.080 he wants to win it again. Okay, and he does 0:15:21.160 --> 0:15:23.400 have that, I guess on ever since since the award 0:15:23.440 --> 0:15:26.760 didn't get started in nineteen eighty six. Now, if the 0:15:26.880 --> 0:15:30.200 award had started in nineteen eighty one. Oh no telling 0:15:30.280 --> 0:15:33.080 how many Everson would have won. All right, so here's 0:15:33.080 --> 0:15:36.720 another goal for Trayvon Diggs. How about you'll make the 0:15:36.800 --> 0:15:40.160 Pro Bowling eight in your first year or your second 0:15:40.240 --> 0:15:43.480 year than his games. Okay, he's already behind Everson there, Yeah, 0:15:43.680 --> 0:15:47.040 because ever Everson made the Pro Bowl High Bill, he 0:15:48.200 --> 0:15:50.440 made the Pro Bowling eighty two. He made the Pro 0:15:50.560 --> 0:15:53.080 Bowling eighty three. I don't know what happened in nineteen 0:15:53.160 --> 0:15:56.760 eighty four, but Everson also made the Pro Bowl in 0:15:57.000 --> 0:15:59.440 nineteen eighty five. So there you go. Four out of 0:15:59.440 --> 0:16:01.960 the first five five years in the league. And then 0:16:02.000 --> 0:16:06.080 they started the de so that was for nineteen eighty five, 0:16:06.080 --> 0:16:07.800 and then they started the defensive player in the month 0:16:07.800 --> 0:16:11.280 of Ward and eighty five. I did not know, uh 0:16:11.480 --> 0:16:15.360 that I didn't have three in the first three games 0:16:15.400 --> 0:16:20.840 in eighty one. I never tracked it, but Redskins was first. 0:16:20.880 --> 0:16:24.200 I think my next big game was the Colt outside 0:16:24.200 --> 0:16:28.240 of the Patriots Monday Night. Just like Digs, we we 0:16:28.360 --> 0:16:30.880 blew them out. I had two picks that that game. 0:16:31.280 --> 0:16:33.400 You're a rookie year. Oh yeah, I wasn't even starting then. 0:16:33.440 --> 0:16:36.040 I was I wasn't even playing. Well, you get on field. 0:16:36.360 --> 0:16:38.920 I mean I wasn't starting third downs. I was okay, 0:16:38.960 --> 0:16:42.560 I got my they were playing it was it was trad. Yeah, 0:16:42.600 --> 0:16:47.800 oh come on, well we played dime. We played dime. 0:16:48.080 --> 0:16:52.800 It started off yeah, everybody. Then that's when the quarterback 0:16:53.200 --> 0:16:55.760 everybody shot gunning. Yeah. So then they ended up going 0:16:55.800 --> 0:16:58.200 to nickel even on first down, but started off on 0:16:58.320 --> 0:17:01.000 Doc got some garbage time. I'm doing the wet scans 0:17:01.160 --> 0:17:03.880 and got in tiesment threw some crap up. I caught that. 0:17:03.960 --> 0:17:07.000 I was scared as hell, and uh, I can't remember 0:17:07.040 --> 0:17:09.480 what happened the next couple of games, but will on Monday. Okay. 0:17:09.520 --> 0:17:13.760 Your first game at Washington interception. Next game was Saint 0:17:13.840 --> 0:17:17.280 Louis and there was no pick, No Cowboys one. You 0:17:17.359 --> 0:17:20.000 had two picks against New England. The next third game, 0:17:20.160 --> 0:17:22.320 yeah okay, and then the fourth game you had a 0:17:22.359 --> 0:17:24.840 pick against the Giants. So four picks in the first 0:17:24.880 --> 0:17:27.240 three games of your career. And then you had another 0:17:27.359 --> 0:17:32.720 stretch in October, October eighteenth, twenty fifth and November ninth, 0:17:32.840 --> 0:17:35.440 the span of four weeks where you had six interceptions. 0:17:35.800 --> 0:17:38.800 You had had two against the Rams, two against the Dolphins, 0:17:38.840 --> 0:17:42.520 and two against the Bills. My lord eleven picks in 0:17:42.800 --> 0:17:47.320 sixteen games that year. Oh and by the way, two 0:17:47.359 --> 0:17:50.760 more picks in the playoffs. So thirteen interceptions in eighteen 0:17:50.840 --> 0:17:52.919 games and the Pro Bowl, don't forget. Oh and then 0:17:52.960 --> 0:17:56.280 the Pro Bows, did you get any respect? Like they 0:17:56.359 --> 0:17:58.920 quit throwing at you? Yeah, they finally did quit. I 0:17:59.119 --> 0:18:00.600 went out for a while. But you know, when you 0:18:00.680 --> 0:18:03.640 see somebody out there running the fourth seven, Yeah, I'm 0:18:03.640 --> 0:18:06.440 coming from a cool They couldn't even pronounce Grambling. It 0:18:06.520 --> 0:18:09.200 was still Grambling College to them, and so to the 0:18:09.800 --> 0:18:12.720 you know, co offensive Cordinets could give a damn about 0:18:12.720 --> 0:18:17.399 the HBCU. So they just felt like that guy. Okay, okay, 0:18:17.440 --> 0:18:21.560 so there you had seven. I mean you had thirteen. 0:18:21.920 --> 0:18:24.480 Let's list just do a regular season. Eleven picks in 0:18:24.600 --> 0:18:28.280 sixteen games. And then he had the strike shortened season 0:18:28.359 --> 0:18:31.720 in eighty two, okay, and the only played nine games. 0:18:32.200 --> 0:18:37.040 Seven picks in eighty two. I was I was going 0:18:37.119 --> 0:18:39.920 for night Train's number, but we had to strike. Yeah, 0:18:40.880 --> 0:18:45.280 night Train Lane. So that was eighteen picks in his 0:18:45.800 --> 0:18:48.879 first twenty five games in the in the league. Okay, 0:18:50.240 --> 0:18:52.560 Well that's got to be a record. Eighteen picks in 0:18:52.600 --> 0:18:56.120 twenty five games. I'm going fast four and eighty three 0:18:56.240 --> 0:18:59.159 here you would have to and the first oh you 0:18:59.280 --> 0:19:06.919 fell off, the were picks fell off? Yea, they finally 0:19:07.080 --> 0:19:11.040 recognized him. Four picks, four picks in the first seven games, 0:19:11.440 --> 0:19:15.480 and so that would put you at what we were 0:19:15.640 --> 0:19:19.919 at twenty eight. So that's twenty two out of thirty 0:19:20.000 --> 0:19:23.200 two games. So twenty two picks in your first thirty 0:19:23.240 --> 0:19:26.160 two games in the league. So that basically two years. Yeah, 0:19:26.240 --> 0:19:28.720 so twenty two picks. And by the way, when you 0:19:28.880 --> 0:19:33.000 mentioned Don Bishop, yeah, I looked it up and he 0:19:33.160 --> 0:19:35.720 had a pick in each of the first five games. 0:19:35.800 --> 0:19:38.680 Oh see, how about that? That's what I was wondering. 0:19:38.920 --> 0:19:42.400 How far did Who's next? Yeah? Whose Diggs going? After 0:19:42.560 --> 0:19:45.200 nixt saying, and I think when they mentioned that, it 0:19:45.480 --> 0:19:49.040 was since the merger in nineteen seventy, so they didn't 0:19:49.080 --> 0:19:51.800 go back any further. But he had as a matter 0:19:51.800 --> 0:19:55.640 of fact, he led the Cowboys in interceptions. I think 0:19:55.880 --> 0:19:58.359 three of the four first four years or four of 0:19:58.400 --> 0:20:01.320 the first five. I wrote it down and said mix 0:20:01.400 --> 0:20:06.240 shots on Dallas Cowboys dot com. Um. But but and 0:20:06.600 --> 0:20:10.000 he led the team I think until until mel Renfro 0:20:10.560 --> 0:20:15.120 became mel Renfro, Right, Um, but yeah, I've never heard 0:20:15.160 --> 0:20:19.320 of again Renfro before Rent. Yeah, and that's crazy. And 0:20:19.440 --> 0:20:21.840 he had played in the league several years before with 0:20:22.440 --> 0:20:24.520 I think two other teams, so that's why he didn't 0:20:24.520 --> 0:20:27.600 play long with. He came with the Cowboys sixty to 0:20:27.840 --> 0:20:30.320 like sixty five. Man, dude, I'm glad we're bringing them 0:20:30.400 --> 0:20:34.320 up Pittsburg in Chicago before the Cowboys. And was he 0:20:34.400 --> 0:20:38.840 getting picks there too? Uh? No, he his his all 0:20:38.960 --> 0:20:42.320 twenty two picks in his career came with the Cowboys. Wow. 0:20:42.480 --> 0:20:46.600 Maybe they didn't keep the stat and that's very good. 0:20:47.280 --> 0:20:51.520 That is very good. Yeah. When did they start throwing 0:20:51.560 --> 0:20:56.719 the forward path? Yeah, right before Sammy Ball. No, they 0:20:56.840 --> 0:20:59.160 kept the stats because when I looked, I was looking, 0:20:59.720 --> 0:21:06.719 uh you know, putin since ever since eleven in eighty one, 0:21:06.880 --> 0:21:09.080 no one's had more than most they've had is ten. 0:21:09.480 --> 0:21:12.439 So I was looking going back, going back, and there 0:21:12.600 --> 0:21:15.960 was some in the teams back then. And once again 0:21:16.080 --> 0:21:18.520 I always say it, I don't care how many times 0:21:18.560 --> 0:21:21.400 they threw with me or whoever. You would just think 0:21:21.440 --> 0:21:23.640 with all these passes in the air that more people 0:21:23.680 --> 0:21:26.760 would be playing like Diggs is playing right now. You 0:21:26.840 --> 0:21:29.640 don't have to get two picks a game. But man, 0:21:29.640 --> 0:21:31.920 if you just get one and they're throwing at you 0:21:32.440 --> 0:21:37.840 seven eight times, just one, I always I said it yesterday. 0:21:37.920 --> 0:21:39.600 I still believe it. I say that the game. I 0:21:39.720 --> 0:21:42.919 was telling timmy Newsoon, if he goes for my record, 0:21:44.000 --> 0:21:47.280 regardless of you know, whether you're talking nine or eleven 0:21:47.400 --> 0:21:51.959 or whatever, we're going to the boat. If he if 0:21:52.040 --> 0:21:55.600 he continued, If just he continues on this this pace, 0:21:56.280 --> 0:21:58.479 I think that would be like a catalyst to us 0:21:59.560 --> 0:22:01.560 being a good team and being good enough to go 0:22:01.640 --> 0:22:03.399 to the super Ball, he said. Out there just a 0:22:03.440 --> 0:22:05.400 little while ago, They said, so, what did you work 0:22:05.480 --> 0:22:07.560 on in the off season, because he had mentioned I 0:22:07.680 --> 0:22:09.960 had my hands on a bunch of balls last year 0:22:10.000 --> 0:22:13.320 and didn't hold on. He said, I worked on my hands. 0:22:13.560 --> 0:22:17.119 I've worked on catching the football. So to get picks 0:22:17.200 --> 0:22:19.880 like that, you have to be a gambler. Yeah, there's 0:22:19.920 --> 0:22:22.280 no doubt. I got a nickname for the defense. What's 0:22:22.680 --> 0:22:27.200 what number? What number is digs number number seven? Yeah? 0:22:27.240 --> 0:22:34.920 What numbers? Parsons left? Seven come eleven? You like it? 0:22:35.480 --> 0:22:41.760 Seven eleven, seven come eleven. Yeah, we're shooting night. So 0:22:41.960 --> 0:22:47.760 you're saying you're seven gets eleven or I like if 0:22:47.800 --> 0:22:50.639 seven gets eleven. There you go, seven gets eleven. 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