1 00:00:05,559 --> 00:00:08,440 Speaker 1: Hi am Kate Hudson, and my name is Oliver Hudson. 2 00:00:08,600 --> 00:00:11,920 Speaker 1: We wanted to do something that highlighted our relationship and 3 00:00:11,960 --> 00:00:23,400 Speaker 1: what it's like to be siblings. We are a sibling, railvalry. No, no, sibling. 4 00:00:25,079 --> 00:00:34,240 Speaker 1: You don't do that with your mouth, si Vely. That's good. 5 00:00:39,200 --> 00:00:43,199 Speaker 1: It was very interesting to have this next family that 6 00:00:43,240 --> 00:00:45,800 Speaker 1: we spoke to on the phone because they are on 7 00:00:45,880 --> 00:00:49,600 Speaker 1: the other end of the horrors of which this virus 8 00:00:49,640 --> 00:00:54,760 Speaker 1: and at the very beginning, as many people know, Nick 9 00:00:55,080 --> 00:01:01,120 Speaker 1: Cordero passed away from complications of Corona virus of COVID 10 00:01:01,200 --> 00:01:05,280 Speaker 1: nineteen and we got to speak with Amanda Clutes and 11 00:01:05,400 --> 00:01:09,919 Speaker 1: her sister and brother about not only that time and 12 00:01:10,040 --> 00:01:13,240 Speaker 1: how devastating it all was, but the importance of the 13 00:01:13,280 --> 00:01:16,920 Speaker 1: family and the family coming together and the silver linings 14 00:01:16,920 --> 00:01:18,920 Speaker 1: of it too. I mean, Amanda seemed to be a 15 00:01:18,920 --> 00:01:22,800 Speaker 1: big silver lining girl, which was interesting. You know, all 16 00:01:22,840 --> 00:01:26,919 Speaker 1: of the things, all of the positives. Yeah, she really 17 00:01:27,200 --> 00:01:30,919 Speaker 1: she was. It's sort of that's where she puts her 18 00:01:31,360 --> 00:01:36,680 Speaker 1: faith into knowing that it feels like that moving forward. 19 00:01:37,280 --> 00:01:40,560 Speaker 1: How she deals with the grief is to try to 20 00:01:41,080 --> 00:01:45,960 Speaker 1: really find the silver lining. Yeah, and you know, connecting 21 00:01:46,000 --> 00:01:50,200 Speaker 1: it to siblings. Her greatest silver lining was that she 22 00:01:50,320 --> 00:01:54,840 Speaker 1: got to reconnect be with her siblings, live under the 23 00:01:54,880 --> 00:01:59,880 Speaker 1: same roof, and her family the closeness that they always had. 24 00:02:00,080 --> 00:02:02,880 Speaker 1: Really even though they were all you know, they get 25 00:02:02,920 --> 00:02:05,000 Speaker 1: into all this, but they've always had they were always 26 00:02:05,080 --> 00:02:08,160 Speaker 1: super solid and had each other's back forever. You know, 27 00:02:08,480 --> 00:02:14,240 Speaker 1: this is a healthy, happy sibling relationships. There's five of 28 00:02:14,280 --> 00:02:19,680 Speaker 1: them altogether. And then it really did highlight the importance 29 00:02:19,919 --> 00:02:25,440 Speaker 1: of siblings when one person is suffering a tragedy like 30 00:02:25,480 --> 00:02:29,160 Speaker 1: a loss of a partner, husband, the father of her child, 31 00:02:29,200 --> 00:02:33,519 Speaker 1: and how they pick up, you know, and her brother 32 00:02:33,680 --> 00:02:38,440 Speaker 1: especially sort of coming in and being a dad himself, 33 00:02:39,160 --> 00:02:44,600 Speaker 1: really taking on that sort of really supportive role, male 34 00:02:44,760 --> 00:02:48,320 Speaker 1: role and wanting to be there for his sister. I 35 00:02:48,680 --> 00:02:53,280 Speaker 1: got off of the episode and I just cried because 36 00:02:54,320 --> 00:02:58,320 Speaker 1: I think that the human spirit is so it's so strong, 37 00:02:58,400 --> 00:03:02,000 Speaker 1: it's so resilient, and there's this family is such a 38 00:03:02,000 --> 00:03:06,000 Speaker 1: wonderful symbol of that that we can we can have 39 00:03:06,080 --> 00:03:11,400 Speaker 1: the most devastating tragic things happen and then we can heal, 40 00:03:11,639 --> 00:03:15,240 Speaker 1: or we can at least attempt to look at something 41 00:03:15,360 --> 00:03:18,760 Speaker 1: positive moving forward and move forward with love. And grace, 42 00:03:18,960 --> 00:03:20,760 Speaker 1: And I just feel like that's what she and her 43 00:03:20,800 --> 00:03:23,720 Speaker 1: faith played a big part in that, you know. I 44 00:03:23,760 --> 00:03:27,200 Speaker 1: mean she's a she has a lot of faith. She's 45 00:03:27,919 --> 00:03:31,639 Speaker 1: and that's a powerful, powerful thing. Whatever you're believing in 46 00:03:31,880 --> 00:03:36,840 Speaker 1: doesn't matter, just the faith, faith that there is something bigger. 47 00:03:37,080 --> 00:03:40,360 Speaker 1: You know, that there is something out there, something that 48 00:03:40,640 --> 00:03:45,240 Speaker 1: you can connect to that's going to bring you peace. Yeah, 49 00:03:45,400 --> 00:03:50,520 Speaker 1: just give me something to believe in? Wow, what what 50 00:03:50,680 --> 00:03:56,880 Speaker 1: a call in? Nollie? What are you? What is that? Game? 51 00:03:56,920 --> 00:04:01,760 Speaker 1: Is something to believe in? Yeah? Warrant is it? No, 52 00:04:01,840 --> 00:04:06,040 Speaker 1: it's not warrant, It's it's up on Jovi. It is 53 00:04:06,760 --> 00:04:10,200 Speaker 1: again missing to believe in? Is the White Sneak or 54 00:04:10,400 --> 00:04:13,440 Speaker 1: or Motley? I mean one of one of them will 55 00:04:13,480 --> 00:04:31,960 Speaker 1: work for me, you know, mm hmm. We need to 56 00:04:31,960 --> 00:04:33,719 Speaker 1: just get to the course. I know we will still 57 00:04:33,880 --> 00:04:35,920 Speaker 1: too long. People are loving this right now, I guarantee 58 00:04:35,960 --> 00:04:40,120 Speaker 1: they're like they're they just want us to get to 59 00:04:40,160 --> 00:04:44,920 Speaker 1: the chorus. Ali, the people just want to hear go 60 00:04:46,800 --> 00:04:51,080 Speaker 1: what I don't see, I forgot. I only know the chorus. 61 00:04:51,640 --> 00:05:08,560 Speaker 1: D give something to believe in. No, it's great, let's go. Okay. 62 00:05:08,640 --> 00:05:12,040 Speaker 1: So yeah, so this this episode was absolutely beautiful. I 63 00:05:12,080 --> 00:05:14,360 Speaker 1: loved it. I'm so grateful for them coming on and 64 00:05:14,400 --> 00:05:19,440 Speaker 1: sharing their story with us, their family, and and also 65 00:05:19,720 --> 00:05:23,360 Speaker 1: opening up about her loss and and Elvis's loss, and 66 00:05:23,839 --> 00:05:29,280 Speaker 1: also getting a perspective from a the only boy you 67 00:05:29,320 --> 00:05:34,040 Speaker 1: know with four four sisters I know. I said to them, 68 00:05:34,080 --> 00:05:36,880 Speaker 1: I'm like, you're like Derek Huff. It's like the Huts, 69 00:05:37,000 --> 00:05:41,320 Speaker 1: right they they're totally mirrored, you know. Anyway, please everybody 70 00:05:41,800 --> 00:05:51,960 Speaker 1: enjoy This is Anna Todd and Amanda Cleats. Hi, Hi God, 71 00:05:53,160 --> 00:05:56,480 Speaker 1: it's nice to see you again. Nice to see you too. 72 00:05:57,160 --> 00:05:59,360 Speaker 1: I think I just want to by saying I'm sorry 73 00:05:59,400 --> 00:06:02,640 Speaker 1: about your I mean, it's just this has been, you know, 74 00:06:02,920 --> 00:06:06,440 Speaker 1: devastating for so many people, and you're like, You've given 75 00:06:06,520 --> 00:06:09,160 Speaker 1: so much to so many, but I'm just so sorry, 76 00:06:10,480 --> 00:06:13,400 Speaker 1: thank you, thank you. We usually started like, okay, well 77 00:06:13,440 --> 00:06:15,960 Speaker 1: let's start from the beginning, but I think I think 78 00:06:16,320 --> 00:06:18,440 Speaker 1: maybe it would be nice to kind of start from 79 00:06:18,520 --> 00:06:23,880 Speaker 1: where we are now and sort of move backwards. Where 80 00:06:23,920 --> 00:06:27,200 Speaker 1: is everybody now? And I know that you you two, 81 00:06:27,360 --> 00:06:30,440 Speaker 1: you're are you living with your sister? I came home 82 00:06:30,480 --> 00:06:32,600 Speaker 1: for Thanksgiving and to stay and be with her through 83 00:06:32,600 --> 00:06:35,839 Speaker 1: the holidays, but I live in Paris, but I left 84 00:06:36,080 --> 00:06:39,800 Speaker 1: Paris the day before Thanksgiving. I didn't tell Amanda when 85 00:06:39,839 --> 00:06:42,120 Speaker 1: I was coming, and then got here the day before 86 00:06:42,400 --> 00:06:45,240 Speaker 1: and snuck into the house getting a Mannie petty. So 87 00:06:45,640 --> 00:06:47,839 Speaker 1: I stuck in with the help of her neighbors and 88 00:06:47,960 --> 00:06:51,359 Speaker 1: like answered the door holding Elvis, like wearing her clothes 89 00:06:51,400 --> 00:06:53,839 Speaker 1: because now we're just really put on her clothes and 90 00:06:55,640 --> 00:06:57,800 Speaker 1: wait what Like I'm looking at me, what's happening? Who 91 00:06:57,839 --> 00:07:02,200 Speaker 1: are you here? It's amazing. I'm going to go back 92 00:07:02,240 --> 00:07:05,039 Speaker 1: to Paris in the middle of January. I have to 93 00:07:05,040 --> 00:07:07,359 Speaker 1: renew my visa, so I have to leave. But I 94 00:07:07,400 --> 00:07:09,520 Speaker 1: told Mandy, I'm going to just like come for months 95 00:07:09,520 --> 00:07:12,800 Speaker 1: at a time throughout the year, especially once you know 96 00:07:13,280 --> 00:07:21,320 Speaker 1: it's possible, just come and go as I please. I know, 97 00:07:21,480 --> 00:07:23,520 Speaker 1: but your life in Paris. You're not going to come 98 00:07:23,560 --> 00:07:26,920 Speaker 1: to Laurel Canyon. I am. It's my other home where 99 00:07:26,960 --> 00:07:30,880 Speaker 1: I you know, Yes, we'll see how Yeah, I'm very 100 00:07:30,880 --> 00:07:34,840 Speaker 1: suspicious considering all the hating on l A you do 101 00:07:38,960 --> 00:07:41,880 Speaker 1: for six weeks. You guys. The other day I was 102 00:07:41,920 --> 00:07:45,760 Speaker 1: talking to Anna and she was like, oh my gosh, 103 00:07:45,800 --> 00:07:47,760 Speaker 1: Like I just don't think I can go back to La. 104 00:07:47,920 --> 00:07:53,600 Speaker 1: I mean all the tye Die, I'm like, what the 105 00:07:53,720 --> 00:07:57,520 Speaker 1: summer in ty Die? What are you talking about? That's 106 00:07:57,560 --> 00:07:59,800 Speaker 1: what happens to me when I'm there. I just like 107 00:08:00,040 --> 00:08:06,280 Speaker 1: I did Creature. You're going back to Paris. You're in 108 00:08:06,320 --> 00:08:10,520 Speaker 1: San Francisco, and Amanda, you're in La. I'm in La. 109 00:08:10,560 --> 00:08:13,080 Speaker 1: You just got a great job. I got a great job. 110 00:08:13,120 --> 00:08:16,120 Speaker 1: Are you excited? I'm so excited. I got to believe that. 111 00:08:16,840 --> 00:08:20,360 Speaker 1: Congratulations on that. That'll be so awesome and it'll be 112 00:08:20,480 --> 00:08:22,680 Speaker 1: very fun. I've never had a nine to I mean, 113 00:08:22,680 --> 00:08:24,560 Speaker 1: it's not nine to five, but every day I have 114 00:08:24,560 --> 00:08:26,440 Speaker 1: to go to work in the morning. I've never had that, 115 00:08:26,560 --> 00:08:29,360 Speaker 1: So it'll be very strange, but great for anyone who 116 00:08:29,360 --> 00:08:32,840 Speaker 1: doesn't know she's Amanda's going to be doing the talk. 117 00:08:33,400 --> 00:08:35,240 Speaker 1: When do you wait? When do you start the talk? 118 00:08:36,040 --> 00:08:39,480 Speaker 1: January fourth? So these are my last couple of weeks 119 00:08:39,520 --> 00:08:46,680 Speaker 1: of uh, freedom of not freedom to expect. I think 120 00:08:46,800 --> 00:08:49,240 Speaker 1: you know that in the times I've co hosted, you know, 121 00:08:49,280 --> 00:08:52,320 Speaker 1: it's it's an early morning hair and makeup, and then 122 00:08:52,400 --> 00:08:53,960 Speaker 1: you know dressing, and then you have to learn all 123 00:08:54,000 --> 00:08:56,680 Speaker 1: the information and I mean it's such a blast. And 124 00:08:56,720 --> 00:08:59,640 Speaker 1: then you drive I'm so close to BS Bradford lot, 125 00:08:59,679 --> 00:09:02,880 Speaker 1: so i just drive right over there and it'll be 126 00:09:02,920 --> 00:09:05,280 Speaker 1: really fun. I'm done by like one o'clock in the afternoon, 127 00:09:05,320 --> 00:09:08,280 Speaker 1: so it honestly is. It's such a blessing for to 128 00:09:08,360 --> 00:09:10,440 Speaker 1: be a mom and to have this job because I 129 00:09:10,480 --> 00:09:12,240 Speaker 1: get to spend the rest of the day with Elvis, 130 00:09:12,320 --> 00:09:14,400 Speaker 1: and by the time I get back, he'll be waking 131 00:09:14,480 --> 00:09:15,960 Speaker 1: up from his nap and then we'll have the rest 132 00:09:15,960 --> 00:09:18,160 Speaker 1: of the day together. I feel so lucky. Guys like 133 00:09:18,200 --> 00:09:21,600 Speaker 1: I really do well. We can become best friends because 134 00:09:21,720 --> 00:09:25,760 Speaker 1: I'm working on the Radford a lot as well. Amanda 135 00:09:25,800 --> 00:09:28,960 Speaker 1: and I Oliver. She sent over a picture of me 136 00:09:29,200 --> 00:09:32,560 Speaker 1: and Zach and her and we were on Watch What 137 00:09:32,640 --> 00:09:36,560 Speaker 1: Happens Live with Andy and Amanda is her you know 138 00:09:37,040 --> 00:09:42,600 Speaker 1: showgirl outfit by while we were doing press. I think 139 00:09:42,640 --> 00:09:45,240 Speaker 1: you're doing press for Wish. I was here, yes, and 140 00:09:45,280 --> 00:09:50,480 Speaker 1: you and Nick and Zach were all doing bullets over Broadway. 141 00:09:50,679 --> 00:09:54,680 Speaker 1: And then here's another weird six degree of separation. Nick 142 00:09:54,720 --> 00:09:57,880 Speaker 1: and I were neighbors with your uncle Mark in New York. 143 00:09:58,640 --> 00:10:02,840 Speaker 1: My God and Mark and Nick played music together a 144 00:10:02,880 --> 00:10:06,319 Speaker 1: couple of times at the Triad on seventy second and 145 00:10:06,880 --> 00:10:09,640 Speaker 1: Nick and Mark would talk a lot about music. I 146 00:10:09,720 --> 00:10:12,120 Speaker 1: was always trying to like get him to like I mean, 147 00:10:12,160 --> 00:10:13,920 Speaker 1: it was like his goal in life to sit down 148 00:10:13,960 --> 00:10:16,240 Speaker 1: with Mark and like talk music, and you know, it's 149 00:10:16,280 --> 00:10:18,520 Speaker 1: just like busy life and everything. And then we got 150 00:10:18,520 --> 00:10:21,240 Speaker 1: I got pregnant, and then we moved a couple of 151 00:10:21,280 --> 00:10:24,439 Speaker 1: blocks over. But yeah, we saw Mark all the time 152 00:10:24,480 --> 00:10:28,600 Speaker 1: in the Naby that's so crazy. Well, the the theme 153 00:10:28,720 --> 00:10:32,200 Speaker 1: music for this show that is Alma Mark. Who did 154 00:10:32,880 --> 00:10:35,480 Speaker 1: I know? I heard that when I was in the podcast, 155 00:10:35,800 --> 00:10:38,320 Speaker 1: So I know that. Like you've talked a lot about 156 00:10:38,600 --> 00:10:40,840 Speaker 1: Nick's passing, but I do want to know kind of 157 00:10:40,920 --> 00:10:44,360 Speaker 1: during that time, you were talking so openly about everything 158 00:10:44,840 --> 00:10:48,200 Speaker 1: and was reaching out and talking about it through social 159 00:10:48,240 --> 00:10:51,680 Speaker 1: media something that was comforting to you. Was it something 160 00:10:51,720 --> 00:10:56,040 Speaker 1: you felt like you had a responsibility to. Well, in 161 00:10:56,120 --> 00:10:59,840 Speaker 1: the beginning, I opened up about it because you know, 162 00:10:59,880 --> 00:11:04,280 Speaker 1: I have this fitness business and I'm very present every 163 00:11:04,320 --> 00:11:07,440 Speaker 1: day on social media, and my husband had been like 164 00:11:07,679 --> 00:11:09,640 Speaker 1: on the couch for a week and then now was 165 00:11:09,679 --> 00:11:12,280 Speaker 1: in the ICU, and I thought to myself, like, I 166 00:11:12,320 --> 00:11:16,480 Speaker 1: can't live a double life and lie and like be 167 00:11:16,559 --> 00:11:18,520 Speaker 1: on social media. Every day, they like, Okay, let's do 168 00:11:18,600 --> 00:11:21,800 Speaker 1: our twenty minute workout, knowing that my husband's in the ICU. 169 00:11:22,320 --> 00:11:24,560 Speaker 1: So I felt like I can't lie about what's happening 170 00:11:24,559 --> 00:11:26,839 Speaker 1: in my life right now. But then I also, more importantly, 171 00:11:26,920 --> 00:11:30,320 Speaker 1: just thought, if there's anyone else in the world that 172 00:11:30,520 --> 00:11:34,199 Speaker 1: is just tired and laying on the couch, they might 173 00:11:34,240 --> 00:11:37,040 Speaker 1: not know that they have COVID because at the time, 174 00:11:37,120 --> 00:11:41,640 Speaker 1: the symptoms on the news were cough, fever, you know, 175 00:11:41,760 --> 00:11:45,120 Speaker 1: loss of taste, loss of smell. Nothing was about being tired, 176 00:11:45,160 --> 00:11:49,280 Speaker 1: and Nick that was his only symptom. I was tired, exhausted, 177 00:11:50,400 --> 00:11:53,080 Speaker 1: And so I just thought, like people have to know 178 00:11:53,520 --> 00:11:56,160 Speaker 1: that this is a symptom, and like that now he's 179 00:11:56,160 --> 00:12:01,439 Speaker 1: in the ICU because he was tired. And then it 180 00:12:01,559 --> 00:12:06,040 Speaker 1: kept just spiraling. It just kept getting worse and worse, 181 00:12:06,679 --> 00:12:08,640 Speaker 1: and I just kind of felt like I have to 182 00:12:08,720 --> 00:12:11,400 Speaker 1: keep being honest about what's going on because the world 183 00:12:11,559 --> 00:12:13,880 Speaker 1: is being affected by this pandemic right now, and it 184 00:12:13,920 --> 00:12:17,720 Speaker 1: would not be okay to just stop this story now 185 00:12:17,760 --> 00:12:22,560 Speaker 1: and not not keep people aware of He's forty one 186 00:12:22,640 --> 00:12:24,840 Speaker 1: years old, he has no pre existing health conditions, and 187 00:12:24,880 --> 00:12:27,400 Speaker 1: this is happening to him. This is not just something 188 00:12:27,440 --> 00:12:30,960 Speaker 1: that affects old people. Like, this is happening and people 189 00:12:31,080 --> 00:12:34,000 Speaker 1: need to be aware of it. And so it just 190 00:12:34,080 --> 00:12:36,880 Speaker 1: kept going, you know, just kept what was the progression 191 00:12:37,080 --> 00:12:40,000 Speaker 1: like he was exhausted and tired and then all of 192 00:12:40,040 --> 00:12:43,959 Speaker 1: a sudden boom or was there a slower progression. No, 193 00:12:44,080 --> 00:12:48,319 Speaker 1: he was exhausted and tired for a week and then 194 00:12:49,280 --> 00:12:52,719 Speaker 1: and then he started having some breathing issues. And then 195 00:12:53,800 --> 00:12:57,000 Speaker 1: when he was he was so lethargic that it took 196 00:12:57,080 --> 00:13:00,440 Speaker 1: him a half hour to get from a bed drummed 197 00:13:00,440 --> 00:13:03,560 Speaker 1: to a kitchen. That is a small cabin, you know, 198 00:13:03,679 --> 00:13:05,560 Speaker 1: not in a huge home. This was like a small 199 00:13:05,600 --> 00:13:07,880 Speaker 1: cabin we were living in at the time, and it 200 00:13:07,920 --> 00:13:10,080 Speaker 1: took him a half hour to get there, and he 201 00:13:10,120 --> 00:13:12,320 Speaker 1: could barely breathe when he got there, and I was like, 202 00:13:12,360 --> 00:13:15,520 Speaker 1: this is We're going to the emergency room. And still 203 00:13:15,520 --> 00:13:17,560 Speaker 1: at that time, he could smell, he could taste, he 204 00:13:17,559 --> 00:13:20,840 Speaker 1: didn't really even have a cough. And when he got 205 00:13:20,840 --> 00:13:24,199 Speaker 1: there they he had double pneumonia and two negative COVID 206 00:13:24,240 --> 00:13:30,920 Speaker 1: tests until the third positive test. See yeah, wow, wow. 207 00:13:31,840 --> 00:13:36,400 Speaker 1: You know, so many people, especially young people our age, 208 00:13:37,080 --> 00:13:39,800 Speaker 1: when this was happening, It was sort of like, you know, 209 00:13:39,880 --> 00:13:44,480 Speaker 1: following Nick and you, it was really you know, sort 210 00:13:44,480 --> 00:13:47,400 Speaker 1: of really brought it, I think, to the forefront that 211 00:13:47,600 --> 00:13:50,840 Speaker 1: how deadly and scary this is. And I know you 212 00:13:50,880 --> 00:13:53,720 Speaker 1: had your family and then you had kind of everyone 213 00:13:54,080 --> 00:13:56,920 Speaker 1: was really you know, rooting for you, guys, and for 214 00:13:57,040 --> 00:14:01,720 Speaker 1: everything and praying for you, and and did you find 215 00:14:01,840 --> 00:14:07,000 Speaker 1: comfort in that? Oh? Yeah, absolutely, I'm you know, I 216 00:14:07,040 --> 00:14:10,440 Speaker 1: couldn't have gotten through everything. Well. First of all, you know, 217 00:14:10,520 --> 00:14:13,840 Speaker 1: like Todd and Anna became like surrogate parents to Elvis, 218 00:14:13,880 --> 00:14:17,000 Speaker 1: so that I had the ability to do everything that 219 00:14:17,080 --> 00:14:20,600 Speaker 1: I had to do during that time. But the social 220 00:14:20,640 --> 00:14:23,920 Speaker 1: media comfort was it was insane, guys. I mean like 221 00:14:24,720 --> 00:14:27,120 Speaker 1: from I would just you know, i'd hear from the 222 00:14:27,200 --> 00:14:29,480 Speaker 1: nurses of the doctors what Nick needed, and I would 223 00:14:29,480 --> 00:14:32,440 Speaker 1: get on social media and say, guys, you know they 224 00:14:32,520 --> 00:14:34,440 Speaker 1: can't get the carbon diaxet out of as lung as. 225 00:14:34,480 --> 00:14:36,960 Speaker 1: What do we do? And I mean I'm not kidding, inten. 226 00:14:37,600 --> 00:14:43,640 Speaker 1: I had like papers of names doctors all over the country, treatments, machines, 227 00:14:43,960 --> 00:14:47,240 Speaker 1: and I just would like call checklists, scratch off, all checklists, 228 00:14:47,240 --> 00:14:49,360 Speaker 1: sketch off, and then I presented to the doctors and 229 00:14:49,440 --> 00:14:52,240 Speaker 1: like the doctor be like where are you getting this information? 230 00:14:52,360 --> 00:14:57,200 Speaker 1: I'd be like Instagram like yeah. It was like this 231 00:14:57,280 --> 00:15:03,400 Speaker 1: community of people that that could just couldn't wait to help. 232 00:15:03,600 --> 00:15:07,800 Speaker 1: I mean, it was insane and started like meal trains started, 233 00:15:07,880 --> 00:15:11,280 Speaker 1: like we were fed like every day for like a month, 234 00:15:11,400 --> 00:15:13,840 Speaker 1: and like something. You think like I don't need dinner, 235 00:15:13,920 --> 00:15:16,160 Speaker 1: It's okay, but then dinner arrives and you're like, oh 236 00:15:16,240 --> 00:15:18,000 Speaker 1: my god, thank god I don't have to cook something 237 00:15:18,040 --> 00:15:20,440 Speaker 1: and destroy the kitchen that is now finally clean, and 238 00:15:20,480 --> 00:15:22,960 Speaker 1: like I don't have to worry about getting groceries. Like 239 00:15:23,040 --> 00:15:28,160 Speaker 1: the way that the Internet, that Instagram and that community 240 00:15:28,280 --> 00:15:30,360 Speaker 1: like you know, started to take care of our entire 241 00:15:30,440 --> 00:15:35,360 Speaker 1: family was absolutely crazy. Yeah, how old? How old is Elvis? 242 00:15:35,920 --> 00:15:40,720 Speaker 1: He's eighteen months, but he was when Nick got sick, 243 00:15:40,760 --> 00:15:42,680 Speaker 1: he was it was March, so I think it was 244 00:15:42,720 --> 00:15:47,920 Speaker 1: only eight months, right, ten months? Ten months? Yeah? Man. 245 00:15:48,720 --> 00:15:53,480 Speaker 1: On top of that, that's I think this is unimaginable 246 00:15:53,560 --> 00:15:56,760 Speaker 1: to a lot of people, you know. And there was 247 00:15:56,800 --> 00:16:00,840 Speaker 1: so much positivity coming out of your feed, and I 248 00:16:01,000 --> 00:16:06,040 Speaker 1: followed you guys, religiously followed you, religiously followed the progress, 249 00:16:06,600 --> 00:16:13,040 Speaker 1: and I just were there the positivity was there, but 250 00:16:13,080 --> 00:16:15,960 Speaker 1: where there are just moments of I just can't do 251 00:16:16,080 --> 00:16:18,160 Speaker 1: this anymore. You know, I have to put on a 252 00:16:18,160 --> 00:16:20,560 Speaker 1: brave face. I have to do this, I have to 253 00:16:20,600 --> 00:16:22,960 Speaker 1: do that. Did you ever feel like you ever got 254 00:16:23,000 --> 00:16:26,120 Speaker 1: yourself into deep with social media, meaning like, shit, I 255 00:16:26,200 --> 00:16:29,000 Speaker 1: don't want to post anymore. I don't want to do 256 00:16:29,040 --> 00:16:33,920 Speaker 1: this anymore. I see what you mean, Oliver. But to 257 00:16:33,960 --> 00:16:36,360 Speaker 1: be honest, I mean, yes, there were definitely days where 258 00:16:36,360 --> 00:16:40,320 Speaker 1: I was, like, you know, in bed, in tears, and 259 00:16:40,480 --> 00:16:43,320 Speaker 1: Todd had taken Elvis for me so that I could 260 00:16:43,360 --> 00:16:46,200 Speaker 1: like get a three hour nap, and it would be 261 00:16:46,240 --> 00:16:48,840 Speaker 1: almost three o'clock and I would be like, oh my gosh, 262 00:16:48,880 --> 00:16:51,160 Speaker 1: I have to go on Live right now and sing, 263 00:16:52,120 --> 00:16:56,640 Speaker 1: and I like, I've done this to myself, and then 264 00:16:57,120 --> 00:16:59,560 Speaker 1: I would just do it, and if you know, sometimes 265 00:16:59,600 --> 00:17:02,080 Speaker 1: I'd put unglasses on and a hat and just like 266 00:17:02,200 --> 00:17:05,439 Speaker 1: not even sing, just be like, you know, doing whatever 267 00:17:05,520 --> 00:17:08,159 Speaker 1: I could do. But innately, every time I did that, 268 00:17:08,400 --> 00:17:12,400 Speaker 1: three minutes and twenty two seconds that that song was over, 269 00:17:12,480 --> 00:17:14,720 Speaker 1: and even if I got off right there, I was 270 00:17:14,800 --> 00:17:18,200 Speaker 1: instantly in a better mood. I instantly had more energy. 271 00:17:18,560 --> 00:17:21,879 Speaker 1: I felt like I had twenty thousand people now behind me, 272 00:17:22,000 --> 00:17:23,600 Speaker 1: being like you can do this, you can do this, 273 00:17:23,680 --> 00:17:26,000 Speaker 1: come on, we're praying for you. We got you. And 274 00:17:26,080 --> 00:17:28,920 Speaker 1: instead of laying in bed and crying more, I then 275 00:17:29,200 --> 00:17:33,679 Speaker 1: three minutes later had energy, had like positivity behind me, 276 00:17:33,720 --> 00:17:35,800 Speaker 1: and I was like, that's right, I can fucking do this, 277 00:17:36,000 --> 00:17:40,320 Speaker 1: like get up, like come on, and I was like singing, 278 00:17:40,400 --> 00:17:43,600 Speaker 1: live your life like so a lot of times it 279 00:17:43,640 --> 00:17:48,440 Speaker 1: was I didn't go back into bed and cry. Everybody 280 00:17:48,600 --> 00:17:54,240 Speaker 1: you know handles grief differently, But how much has religion 281 00:17:54,320 --> 00:17:59,240 Speaker 1: played a part and faith played a part in this experience, 282 00:17:59,280 --> 00:18:02,720 Speaker 1: in this moment moment in your life. Yeah, for me, huge, 283 00:18:02,880 --> 00:18:07,760 Speaker 1: I mean I've I in times of trouble for me, 284 00:18:07,920 --> 00:18:11,000 Speaker 1: I mean I I I pray every day and I 285 00:18:11,520 --> 00:18:16,360 Speaker 1: am a very faith based person. But when things get 286 00:18:16,400 --> 00:18:18,280 Speaker 1: really bad for me and for my life, I'm just 287 00:18:18,320 --> 00:18:22,359 Speaker 1: talking for myself, not for you guys especially. But I 288 00:18:23,040 --> 00:18:26,359 Speaker 1: dive deep down. I really like dive deep down, and 289 00:18:26,440 --> 00:18:30,200 Speaker 1: I really put like every part of me into believing 290 00:18:30,280 --> 00:18:35,439 Speaker 1: that you know and praying and and you know his 291 00:18:35,560 --> 00:18:38,400 Speaker 1: will is done and all of all of the things 292 00:18:38,400 --> 00:18:40,960 Speaker 1: that I really truly do believe. It gives me great 293 00:18:41,000 --> 00:18:46,160 Speaker 1: comfort and I find a lot of peace from it, 294 00:18:46,280 --> 00:18:50,440 Speaker 1: and and it just it helps me so much, so 295 00:18:50,440 --> 00:18:52,760 Speaker 1: so much. And you grew it? Did you guys all 296 00:18:52,840 --> 00:18:55,960 Speaker 1: grow up religious? Oh? Yeah? Church was like you weren't 297 00:18:55,960 --> 00:18:59,840 Speaker 1: missing church for any excuse or reason ever, all the 298 00:19:00,080 --> 00:19:03,359 Speaker 1: it says we're in a row hair. Sunday morning was 299 00:19:03,400 --> 00:19:07,240 Speaker 1: like get up, you got to get your hair. And 300 00:19:07,359 --> 00:19:10,400 Speaker 1: it was chaos. Get your you got to get your 301 00:19:10,440 --> 00:19:13,000 Speaker 1: off and on. And we went to church and outfits 302 00:19:13,880 --> 00:19:22,520 Speaker 1: French break close and there's school teacher. Oh wow, five 303 00:19:22,600 --> 00:19:28,399 Speaker 1: siblings and what is the order? Ta's the oldest sister 304 00:19:28,520 --> 00:19:31,040 Speaker 1: in Texas? Who's the next oldest? And we have a 305 00:19:31,080 --> 00:19:34,240 Speaker 1: sister who's was living in New York but now lives 306 00:19:34,280 --> 00:19:36,960 Speaker 1: in Ohio with our parents. And then Amanda and then me, 307 00:19:37,800 --> 00:19:41,080 Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, Todd, you're the only boy. Yeah, you're 308 00:19:41,080 --> 00:19:46,840 Speaker 1: like Derek Huff. I would be a boy, but I 309 00:19:47,119 --> 00:19:49,640 Speaker 1: was not. I turned out to be a girl. Yeah. 310 00:19:49,720 --> 00:19:52,800 Speaker 1: When when when we found out that my mom was 311 00:19:52,800 --> 00:19:54,879 Speaker 1: pregnant with Anna, I was like, maybe it's the brother 312 00:19:54,960 --> 00:20:01,919 Speaker 1: that I'm always I've always wanted. S Where did you 313 00:20:02,000 --> 00:20:06,439 Speaker 1: grow up? Grew up in Ohio, Canton, Ohio, Ohio. I 314 00:20:06,480 --> 00:20:11,159 Speaker 1: went down to Ohio the Football Hall of Fame. If 315 00:20:11,160 --> 00:20:15,800 Speaker 1: you've got oh yeah, big time, yeah football fans. Yeah, 316 00:20:15,880 --> 00:20:18,760 Speaker 1: they're like five minutes from the Football Hall of Fame. Todd, 317 00:20:18,760 --> 00:20:25,480 Speaker 1: you're number one. What's the age difference from you to Anna? Thirteen? Yeah, 318 00:20:25,520 --> 00:20:28,440 Speaker 1: between me and Anna, it's fourteen years. Okay, so you're 319 00:20:28,560 --> 00:20:33,200 Speaker 1: closest to Tracy, my oldest sister. Tracy and I think 320 00:20:33,240 --> 00:20:37,520 Speaker 1: are eighteen months apart. I was definitely the accidental last child. 321 00:20:37,600 --> 00:20:40,760 Speaker 1: I was not for sure. In fact, we were at 322 00:20:40,800 --> 00:20:44,320 Speaker 1: a wedding in Texas and I was in my parents 323 00:20:44,480 --> 00:20:48,120 Speaker 1: room and the other sisters were in the adjacent hotel room, 324 00:20:48,400 --> 00:20:52,160 Speaker 1: and I woke up to my parents arguing over whether 325 00:20:52,200 --> 00:20:54,959 Speaker 1: or not my mom was actually pregnant with Anna, and 326 00:20:54,960 --> 00:20:57,720 Speaker 1: my mom's like, fred, I've been I know that I'm 327 00:20:57,720 --> 00:20:59,920 Speaker 1: pregnant again, and my dad's like, you're not pregnant, don't 328 00:21:00,000 --> 00:21:07,840 Speaker 1: worry about it's suck. And then sure enough, then when 329 00:21:07,920 --> 00:21:10,640 Speaker 1: we found out, like I remember, the four of us 330 00:21:10,680 --> 00:21:13,359 Speaker 1: were so excited that we're going to have a little sister, 331 00:21:13,920 --> 00:21:17,320 Speaker 1: and especially when Anna was born, she was like the 332 00:21:17,359 --> 00:21:20,320 Speaker 1: star of the show. We were all old enough that 333 00:21:20,400 --> 00:21:23,520 Speaker 1: we were all so excited to like take care of Anna, 334 00:21:23,920 --> 00:21:29,120 Speaker 1: and uh, like yeah, all all focus was on, well 335 00:21:29,160 --> 00:21:31,399 Speaker 1: this is is this why she lives in Paris. I 336 00:21:31,400 --> 00:21:36,159 Speaker 1: mean it's like she's like, oh, oh, I'm gonna go 337 00:21:36,200 --> 00:21:42,239 Speaker 1: to Paris. You guys like this last night. I have 338 00:21:43,000 --> 00:21:47,640 Speaker 1: a different We're all so similar, but then there is 339 00:21:47,680 --> 00:21:50,920 Speaker 1: definitely something that makes you a bit different. I think 340 00:21:50,960 --> 00:21:53,600 Speaker 1: when you grow up. I grew up a little bit 341 00:21:53,600 --> 00:21:56,359 Speaker 1: differently than everybody because there was this huge gap. Then 342 00:21:56,359 --> 00:21:58,119 Speaker 1: there was a huge gap, but I was essentially an 343 00:21:58,119 --> 00:22:00,440 Speaker 1: only child with my mom and dad because everybody else 344 00:22:00,520 --> 00:22:03,080 Speaker 1: was not at college or like living a full adult life, 345 00:22:03,080 --> 00:22:04,600 Speaker 1: and I grew up as an only child with my 346 00:22:04,600 --> 00:22:08,480 Speaker 1: parents for seven months so years years. So I'm I'm 347 00:22:08,680 --> 00:22:11,200 Speaker 1: closer to my mom and dad in a way because 348 00:22:11,960 --> 00:22:15,560 Speaker 1: I had this like alone time with them, and for 349 00:22:15,600 --> 00:22:18,159 Speaker 1: so long, like everyone went from like loving me. I 350 00:22:18,280 --> 00:22:20,119 Speaker 1: was like their live baby dolls, and then like not 351 00:22:20,200 --> 00:22:22,159 Speaker 1: liking me at all because I was there annoying like 352 00:22:22,320 --> 00:22:25,159 Speaker 1: nine year old sister and no one made talk to 353 00:22:25,200 --> 00:22:27,760 Speaker 1: me at all between the ages of like nine until 354 00:22:27,800 --> 00:22:30,879 Speaker 1: I was like eighteen, and then they were like you're cool, Okay, 355 00:22:30,920 --> 00:22:33,439 Speaker 1: you can be one of us now. So it was 356 00:22:33,480 --> 00:22:37,160 Speaker 1: it different growing up. Isn't it so funny how that happens? 357 00:22:37,280 --> 00:22:41,360 Speaker 1: How you know, It's just it goes from one thing 358 00:22:41,400 --> 00:22:44,760 Speaker 1: to the next, especially with five kids, being the youngest, 359 00:22:45,280 --> 00:22:47,600 Speaker 1: having your family all around you, and then one minute 360 00:22:47,640 --> 00:22:51,560 Speaker 1: everyone fucking gone and you're like, oh shit, oh okay. 361 00:22:51,880 --> 00:22:54,119 Speaker 1: What was the household? Like, what was it like growing 362 00:22:54,200 --> 00:22:57,040 Speaker 1: up in the family? Was it was there a lot 363 00:22:57,080 --> 00:22:59,480 Speaker 1: of music around? Was it fun? Was it strict? I mean, 364 00:22:59,520 --> 00:23:05,040 Speaker 1: just what's the overall feel? I would say probably chaos, right, 365 00:23:05,119 --> 00:23:12,680 Speaker 1: because like I especially God, it was like five kids 366 00:23:12,800 --> 00:23:14,439 Speaker 1: at the at the like the high point when I 367 00:23:14,480 --> 00:23:18,080 Speaker 1: was in high school, and I remember like the days 368 00:23:18,119 --> 00:23:20,439 Speaker 1: where like one or all of us were fighting with 369 00:23:20,480 --> 00:23:22,840 Speaker 1: each other. My mom would call my dad at work 370 00:23:23,600 --> 00:23:26,280 Speaker 1: and we were all of them like fearing my dad 371 00:23:26,320 --> 00:23:29,600 Speaker 1: to come home to be given this bad report on 372 00:23:29,680 --> 00:23:34,280 Speaker 1: our behavior. Who had been fighting with who? But yeah, 373 00:23:34,320 --> 00:23:37,639 Speaker 1: we were Yeah, we were definitely music oriented, Like we 374 00:23:37,640 --> 00:23:40,040 Speaker 1: were all in either band or choir or both. And 375 00:23:40,080 --> 00:23:45,399 Speaker 1: then we all went to this creative arts middle school. Yeah, 376 00:23:45,440 --> 00:23:50,600 Speaker 1: so definitely like arts focused household for sure. If you 377 00:23:50,680 --> 00:23:53,360 Speaker 1: weren't religious, meaning if you were like, okay, I'm going 378 00:23:53,359 --> 00:23:56,280 Speaker 1: to I'm going to Sunday School. I'm following you know 379 00:23:56,320 --> 00:23:58,520 Speaker 1: what parents want me to do. Right as you get 380 00:23:58,560 --> 00:24:02,119 Speaker 1: older and time to make your own choices, was that 381 00:24:02,160 --> 00:24:06,000 Speaker 1: an acceptable thing for your parents if you said I don't, 382 00:24:06,160 --> 00:24:09,639 Speaker 1: I don't want to follow that path. They they never 383 00:24:10,160 --> 00:24:12,320 Speaker 1: we were talking about this last night too. They never 384 00:24:12,560 --> 00:24:16,959 Speaker 1: pushed us in any direction. They never even were like, 385 00:24:17,119 --> 00:24:20,040 Speaker 1: you better get good grades. Like they didn't you know 386 00:24:20,080 --> 00:24:23,000 Speaker 1: what I mean, Like they didn't ever, they'd let us 387 00:24:23,040 --> 00:24:25,560 Speaker 1: do our own thing. But then also like if Todd 388 00:24:25,600 --> 00:24:27,639 Speaker 1: was in band, Tracy was in band, and then Ali 389 00:24:27,760 --> 00:24:29,840 Speaker 1: was in then and then I was in band, and 390 00:24:29,840 --> 00:24:32,040 Speaker 1: then Anna got away with not being in band because 391 00:24:32,119 --> 00:24:34,560 Speaker 1: seven years later, but like it more it was like 392 00:24:35,480 --> 00:24:37,200 Speaker 1: your brother did it, so then Tracy and then you 393 00:24:37,320 --> 00:24:38,679 Speaker 1: do it, and then you do it. But it was 394 00:24:38,800 --> 00:24:43,000 Speaker 1: never like a you have to do this or feeling 395 00:24:43,240 --> 00:24:46,840 Speaker 1: this is the things we do. Yeah, and like but 396 00:24:46,880 --> 00:24:50,240 Speaker 1: then also because Todd like was in band, we would 397 00:24:50,280 --> 00:24:52,480 Speaker 1: all on Fridays go to the football game and cheer 398 00:24:52,560 --> 00:24:54,639 Speaker 1: Todd on, and so then you wanted to be in 399 00:24:54,720 --> 00:24:56,440 Speaker 1: band and you're like, well, I can't wait on I'm 400 00:24:56,440 --> 00:25:01,320 Speaker 1: in band, and then we all go to band and 401 00:25:02,040 --> 00:25:04,560 Speaker 1: then Anna is like you go to band and I'm 402 00:25:04,600 --> 00:25:15,280 Speaker 1: going to pull wow wow wow me by the way, 403 00:25:15,400 --> 00:25:21,600 Speaker 1: starting the nerdiest trend for us to following. 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You're very 472 00:30:10,040 --> 00:30:13,640 Speaker 1: typical baby, like I'm gonna go. I'm gonna travel the world. 473 00:30:13,680 --> 00:30:15,040 Speaker 1: I'm gonna do whatever I want. I don't care what 474 00:30:15,120 --> 00:30:19,240 Speaker 1: I says. You're like, oh my god, it's the fun. 475 00:30:19,960 --> 00:30:23,960 Speaker 1: Where's everyone else had like the focus on like making 476 00:30:23,960 --> 00:30:25,280 Speaker 1: sure what they're going to do with their life and 477 00:30:25,280 --> 00:30:28,560 Speaker 1: their job and their thing in the It's like so typical. 478 00:30:29,960 --> 00:30:32,840 Speaker 1: Here's a good story. It would be like the dead 479 00:30:32,960 --> 00:30:35,760 Speaker 1: of winter and it was like I was going through 480 00:30:35,800 --> 00:30:38,840 Speaker 1: my divorce and I was in my studio apartment and 481 00:30:38,920 --> 00:30:42,560 Speaker 1: like blizzards and my sister Alison, who lived like a 482 00:30:42,600 --> 00:30:44,800 Speaker 1: couple of blocks from me, would send me a picture 483 00:30:44,880 --> 00:30:48,200 Speaker 1: of Anna in the Maldives and a hammock, being like 484 00:30:48,920 --> 00:30:52,560 Speaker 1: life is so wonderful, And she texted me. She'd be like, 485 00:30:52,600 --> 00:31:01,719 Speaker 1: good morning, and I'd be like, and you know what 486 00:31:01,760 --> 00:31:05,320 Speaker 1: I love, Todd is that you're the older brother. What 487 00:31:05,360 --> 00:31:07,840 Speaker 1: does that feel like for you? Do you feel a 488 00:31:08,000 --> 00:31:14,560 Speaker 1: paternal kind of feeling more towards your sisters than sibling? Yes, 489 00:31:15,040 --> 00:31:19,200 Speaker 1: I do. It's definitely something has obviously evolved as we've 490 00:31:19,200 --> 00:31:24,320 Speaker 1: all gotten older, Like I feel like we're obviously siblings. 491 00:31:24,680 --> 00:31:28,560 Speaker 1: As we've gotten older, we've become like of it, like 492 00:31:28,640 --> 00:31:33,640 Speaker 1: the best of friends. But then especially like recently, yeah, 493 00:31:33,720 --> 00:31:37,200 Speaker 1: like even more of like paternal kind of like instincts 494 00:31:37,320 --> 00:31:42,320 Speaker 1: kick in for sure. Well, Todd the all dad too. 495 00:31:42,520 --> 00:31:44,840 Speaker 1: He's like the best dad in the entire world to 496 00:31:44,920 --> 00:31:48,400 Speaker 1: his two boys. Oh thanks, and he's like the most 497 00:31:48,520 --> 00:31:52,240 Speaker 1: caring Like Todd took care of the two of us 498 00:31:52,680 --> 00:31:55,400 Speaker 1: all summer, Like would wake up and bring us coffees 499 00:31:55,440 --> 00:31:58,000 Speaker 1: and they'd be like lattes, like warm lattes waiting when 500 00:31:58,000 --> 00:32:00,160 Speaker 1: Amanda and I got up, because he got up for 501 00:32:00,400 --> 00:32:04,760 Speaker 1: us like anything. It wasn't all like please help, like 502 00:32:04,840 --> 00:32:07,440 Speaker 1: we don't know. Yesterday our tire pressure was well, we 503 00:32:07,480 --> 00:32:16,160 Speaker 1: were like, call Tod, what does this mean? To do 504 00:32:18,000 --> 00:32:20,720 Speaker 1: funny too, because like during quarantine, I felt like a 505 00:32:20,760 --> 00:32:25,440 Speaker 1: lot of the paternal stuff was also like definitely me 506 00:32:26,040 --> 00:32:29,000 Speaker 1: taking things that my were things that when we were 507 00:32:29,000 --> 00:32:30,959 Speaker 1: growing up that my dad did, and they were they 508 00:32:30,960 --> 00:32:33,840 Speaker 1: were like directly translating into our life when we were 509 00:32:33,920 --> 00:32:37,120 Speaker 1: living together this summer because it was like these two 510 00:32:37,200 --> 00:32:41,680 Speaker 1: girls packages were constantly arriving at the house like it 511 00:32:41,840 --> 00:32:46,440 Speaker 1: was insane, and there was only so many like boxes 512 00:32:46,480 --> 00:32:48,000 Speaker 1: that we could fit in the recycle bent into like 513 00:32:48,080 --> 00:32:51,040 Speaker 1: every day like had this ritual of like chopping up 514 00:32:51,160 --> 00:32:53,440 Speaker 1: cardboard boxes and it just like harken back to when 515 00:32:53,480 --> 00:32:55,800 Speaker 1: we were little and my dad was like he had 516 00:32:55,800 --> 00:32:58,560 Speaker 1: this like weekly ritual of like the trash compaction that 517 00:32:58,640 --> 00:33:01,200 Speaker 1: he would do and he would always come back and 518 00:33:01,320 --> 00:33:03,120 Speaker 1: be like, oh man, I just wish that people would 519 00:33:03,320 --> 00:33:05,560 Speaker 1: do a better job of putting stuff in the trash. Right, 520 00:33:05,600 --> 00:33:11,080 Speaker 1: So I didn't do this job every week. So Todd, 521 00:33:11,200 --> 00:33:13,760 Speaker 1: you went you left first, So where did you go 522 00:33:13,840 --> 00:33:18,440 Speaker 1: to college? I went to college in Miami, Miami University 523 00:33:18,480 --> 00:33:23,080 Speaker 1: of Ohio, so southern Ohio, just north of Cincinnati And 524 00:33:23,360 --> 00:33:26,440 Speaker 1: when you left, what was that like for all the girls? 525 00:33:26,880 --> 00:33:31,640 Speaker 1: We all sobbed. We drove home our giant family conversion van. 526 00:33:32,240 --> 00:33:37,120 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, it was a bus to fit all of us. Gladiator. 527 00:33:37,160 --> 00:33:42,160 Speaker 1: It's a gladiator across the town. We used to fight 528 00:33:42,200 --> 00:33:46,520 Speaker 1: over who in the captain's chairs, the two in the back. 529 00:33:46,600 --> 00:33:51,160 Speaker 1: There was a TV in it. We would go from that. 530 00:33:51,560 --> 00:33:55,880 Speaker 1: In that van, we would drive two days from Ohio 531 00:33:55,920 --> 00:33:59,560 Speaker 1: to Florida or Ohio to North Carolina for summer vacation 532 00:33:59,680 --> 00:34:03,200 Speaker 1: every year, and like that was one of the most 533 00:34:03,640 --> 00:34:05,640 Speaker 1: like the biggest things to fight over was who got 534 00:34:05,640 --> 00:34:09,560 Speaker 1: the captain's chair for sure? Wow, I'm dealing with that 535 00:34:09,800 --> 00:34:13,640 Speaker 1: right now, like shotgun and oh yeah, I mean the 536 00:34:13,680 --> 00:34:17,960 Speaker 1: ship captain's chair. By the way, it was, I was 537 00:34:18,080 --> 00:34:20,279 Speaker 1: never I could call it. It didn't matter you were 538 00:34:21,600 --> 00:34:25,840 Speaker 1: the captain's chair, exactly. I don't deserve a captain's chair. 539 00:34:28,360 --> 00:34:30,800 Speaker 1: When we pulled away and left pod at college, it 540 00:34:30,880 --> 00:34:33,160 Speaker 1: was so sad. I will never forget this. We all 541 00:34:33,239 --> 00:34:36,680 Speaker 1: have like faces planted to the back window. And Todd 542 00:34:36,760 --> 00:34:40,080 Speaker 1: was standing on the steps of Dennison what was it 543 00:34:40,120 --> 00:34:44,759 Speaker 1: called Dennison And he's like weaving to us in his 544 00:34:44,880 --> 00:34:50,840 Speaker 1: oversized khakis and we're like hearing at him sobbing sobbings 545 00:34:51,000 --> 00:34:54,839 Speaker 1: as we drove away my mom and dad, who never cries. Yeah, 546 00:34:54,840 --> 00:34:56,560 Speaker 1: I was gonna say, that's one of the first times 547 00:34:56,600 --> 00:34:59,440 Speaker 1: I remember seeing dad cry. Was that day that like 548 00:34:59,520 --> 00:35:04,839 Speaker 1: really got to me. Oh members one by one. This 549 00:35:05,000 --> 00:35:07,839 Speaker 1: happened when Amanda left and we took a man out 550 00:35:07,840 --> 00:35:10,680 Speaker 1: of college. It was just me. I cried the whole 551 00:35:11,400 --> 00:35:13,520 Speaker 1: next week. And then I got a puppy out of it. 552 00:35:23,120 --> 00:35:26,560 Speaker 1: Oh gosh, because then four, I mean, I have to say, 553 00:35:26,719 --> 00:35:28,800 Speaker 1: you know, Anna it is. And then all of a sudden, 554 00:35:28,800 --> 00:35:30,520 Speaker 1: Ia goes to colleges and then it's all like they're 555 00:35:30,520 --> 00:35:33,279 Speaker 1: just dropping like flies, like everyone's going to college like 556 00:35:33,320 --> 00:35:35,120 Speaker 1: one year or the next year. And then it's like, 557 00:35:35,160 --> 00:35:38,520 Speaker 1: oh no. And then one by one my mom started 558 00:35:38,560 --> 00:35:43,719 Speaker 1: replacing us with dogs. By the time we were all gone, 559 00:35:43,800 --> 00:35:46,399 Speaker 1: my mom had three dogs and no children at home. 560 00:35:48,840 --> 00:35:52,200 Speaker 1: So growing growing up where they're because there were five 561 00:35:52,239 --> 00:35:55,080 Speaker 1: of you were there clicks, you know, it was like, oh, 562 00:35:55,280 --> 00:36:00,000 Speaker 1: we're a little crew, were hanging out together. There's exclusion 563 00:36:00,120 --> 00:36:03,800 Speaker 1: in an inclusion. Maybe that changed, you know, throughout the years, 564 00:36:03,880 --> 00:36:06,759 Speaker 1: or God would have a sign on his door, do 565 00:36:06,920 --> 00:36:10,240 Speaker 1: not enter. We couldn't. Todd did not want us around 566 00:36:10,800 --> 00:36:14,759 Speaker 1: at all. Ali and Tracy my two older sisters. They 567 00:36:14,760 --> 00:36:17,120 Speaker 1: were a clique for a while and they would sometimes 568 00:36:17,200 --> 00:36:20,000 Speaker 1: let me in. But I was three years younger than Ali, 569 00:36:20,440 --> 00:36:22,680 Speaker 1: so Allie is always trying to be cool for Tracy. 570 00:36:23,280 --> 00:36:26,240 Speaker 1: So they only really let me in when they needed 571 00:36:26,239 --> 00:36:28,880 Speaker 1: like a minion, and so then I would be allowed in, 572 00:36:29,320 --> 00:36:31,479 Speaker 1: But then they would then if they were in a fight, 573 00:36:31,520 --> 00:36:33,959 Speaker 1: then they would one of them would take me as 574 00:36:33,960 --> 00:36:38,040 Speaker 1: like their buddy. One would be alone. I was never 575 00:36:38,320 --> 00:36:43,319 Speaker 1: anyone's click except Tracy. Sometimes would take me on what 576 00:36:43,480 --> 00:36:47,000 Speaker 1: she called best friend days, because Tracy was always very 577 00:36:47,040 --> 00:36:50,360 Speaker 1: maternal towards me. She me and Tracy are ten years 578 00:36:50,920 --> 00:36:53,880 Speaker 1: so Tracy would take me on, like let's go on 579 00:36:54,000 --> 00:36:55,960 Speaker 1: best friend days, and me and Tracy had our own 580 00:36:56,000 --> 00:37:00,319 Speaker 1: little handshake and we would like do little days. How 581 00:37:00,360 --> 00:37:05,960 Speaker 1: secret isn't that how secret breakfast got invented? Secret breakfast? Yeah, 582 00:37:06,000 --> 00:37:09,160 Speaker 1: Tracy took you on a best friend morning and it 583 00:37:09,239 --> 00:37:12,960 Speaker 1: was a secret breakfast morning. You took photos of it, remember, 584 00:37:14,160 --> 00:37:17,080 Speaker 1: because I still carried that pressure on with my kids. 585 00:37:17,520 --> 00:37:21,239 Speaker 1: Oh what is it? I want to know you? You 586 00:37:21,320 --> 00:37:24,680 Speaker 1: before you go to bed, like I'll one of my boys. 587 00:37:24,680 --> 00:37:27,800 Speaker 1: I'll be like, dude, secret breakfast tomorrow, just you and me, 588 00:37:27,920 --> 00:37:29,880 Speaker 1: and then they wake up early, they wake me up, 589 00:37:29,880 --> 00:37:32,640 Speaker 1: and then we go and have secret breakfast alone. And 590 00:37:32,680 --> 00:37:36,040 Speaker 1: the legend that I've told them is that Anna and 591 00:37:36,080 --> 00:37:38,799 Speaker 1: Tracy invented this. When Tracy was in college. She would 592 00:37:38,800 --> 00:37:41,960 Speaker 1: come home and she had missed Anna, and so she's like, 593 00:37:42,120 --> 00:37:44,360 Speaker 1: you and you and me will go to secret breakfast together. 594 00:37:45,120 --> 00:37:47,520 Speaker 1: That's a good that's a great idea, you know. I 595 00:37:47,560 --> 00:37:50,760 Speaker 1: mean I do dates. I'll take my daughter on dates, 596 00:37:50,960 --> 00:37:55,200 Speaker 1: going to dates, of course, because I started with that's right, 597 00:37:55,320 --> 00:37:57,879 Speaker 1: So you can't take that for Oliver. That was that's 598 00:37:57,880 --> 00:38:01,839 Speaker 1: a family ession, as like Paul used to take me 599 00:38:01,920 --> 00:38:04,080 Speaker 1: on dates and I'd get to pick where I wanted 600 00:38:04,080 --> 00:38:06,759 Speaker 1: to go, and then Mom would take ol of her. No, no, no, 601 00:38:06,800 --> 00:38:10,480 Speaker 1: I would take mom. Oh right right, right right? Yeah. 602 00:38:10,480 --> 00:38:12,880 Speaker 1: I mean not that I would pay or drive because 603 00:38:12,880 --> 00:38:17,839 Speaker 1: I was like five years old. But you know, wait, 604 00:38:18,080 --> 00:38:21,080 Speaker 1: so now, Amanda, you wait, so you would all guys 605 00:38:21,120 --> 00:38:24,400 Speaker 1: did bad, But when did you start dancing? I started 606 00:38:24,480 --> 00:38:26,719 Speaker 1: dancing at the middle school that we all went to 607 00:38:26,880 --> 00:38:30,400 Speaker 1: that had arts. So that was in sixth grade. No, 608 00:38:30,520 --> 00:38:33,600 Speaker 1: fourth grade, I started dancing, so like ten or eleven 609 00:38:33,680 --> 00:38:37,000 Speaker 1: years old, and then was the dedication to dance for 610 00:38:37,040 --> 00:38:41,040 Speaker 1: you your own or was it also kind of you know, 611 00:38:41,080 --> 00:38:43,960 Speaker 1: because I know for me it was like once I 612 00:38:44,000 --> 00:38:46,880 Speaker 1: got to like thirteen fourteen, I was like, I'm not 613 00:38:46,920 --> 00:38:49,480 Speaker 1: going to dance class. My Mom's like like, hell, you're 614 00:38:49,520 --> 00:38:51,560 Speaker 1: not going to dance class. You're going to dance class, 615 00:38:52,440 --> 00:38:55,359 Speaker 1: you know. No, I fell in love with it. So 616 00:38:55,920 --> 00:38:59,160 Speaker 1: I started in fourth grade. And then around sixth grade, 617 00:39:01,040 --> 00:39:04,200 Speaker 1: my dance teacher was like, you know, you might you 618 00:39:04,280 --> 00:39:07,479 Speaker 1: might be able to do something with this, and I did, 619 00:39:07,520 --> 00:39:11,040 Speaker 1: like my first performance, and I remember doing my first performance, 620 00:39:11,040 --> 00:39:15,959 Speaker 1: which ironically was to Elvis Presley's Jail House Rock and 621 00:39:16,400 --> 00:39:19,160 Speaker 1: it was a tap dance, and I remember being on 622 00:39:19,239 --> 00:39:20,560 Speaker 1: stage being like, I want to do this for the 623 00:39:20,600 --> 00:39:23,080 Speaker 1: rest of my life. And then I wrote an essay 624 00:39:23,560 --> 00:39:25,719 Speaker 1: like in sixth grade about how I'm I'm going to 625 00:39:25,760 --> 00:39:29,759 Speaker 1: be on Broadway and be a radio city rocket. You 626 00:39:30,040 --> 00:39:33,440 Speaker 1: love the manifestation of like how you because I mean, 627 00:39:33,520 --> 00:39:35,200 Speaker 1: I feel like I had the same thing as like 628 00:39:35,280 --> 00:39:36,880 Speaker 1: I just knew. I was just like this is what 629 00:39:36,960 --> 00:39:41,040 Speaker 1: I'm gonna do. But how fun. Oh my god, that's 630 00:39:41,080 --> 00:39:47,280 Speaker 1: so awesome. We see audition process for that. Yeah, audition 631 00:39:47,400 --> 00:39:51,960 Speaker 1: process is great. It's brutal. The so I auditioned a 632 00:39:51,960 --> 00:39:54,120 Speaker 1: couple of times, didn't get it. The third time I 633 00:39:54,200 --> 00:39:57,600 Speaker 1: went in. You know, they have these like tours, So 634 00:39:57,640 --> 00:39:59,799 Speaker 1: I auditioned for the tours first, and then the third 635 00:39:59,800 --> 00:40:02,520 Speaker 1: time my audition was for the actual radio city, like 636 00:40:02,920 --> 00:40:04,959 Speaker 1: the Truth, the you know the girls that are there. 637 00:40:06,080 --> 00:40:07,759 Speaker 1: And I went to an open call. There were a 638 00:40:07,800 --> 00:40:11,600 Speaker 1: thousand girls, they had twelve. It was over two days, 639 00:40:11,880 --> 00:40:17,040 Speaker 1: from ten to six pm. And this would never happen today. 640 00:40:17,160 --> 00:40:20,040 Speaker 1: But when I auditioned, the last like half hour of 641 00:40:20,040 --> 00:40:22,440 Speaker 1: the audition, we stood in a line and you had 642 00:40:22,440 --> 00:40:26,719 Speaker 1: to step forward in your perfect level and you had 643 00:40:26,760 --> 00:40:29,880 Speaker 1: to just stand there and they like just walked around you, 644 00:40:30,080 --> 00:40:34,040 Speaker 1: just like looking you up and down and you had 645 00:40:34,040 --> 00:40:37,440 Speaker 1: to stand there like just perfectly. I mean that never 646 00:40:37,680 --> 00:40:40,920 Speaker 1: that would never happen now. But but yeah, that was 647 00:40:41,400 --> 00:40:43,680 Speaker 1: a two day process. Like I said, a thousand girls 648 00:40:43,680 --> 00:40:46,719 Speaker 1: they needed twelve. It's very it was it's a lot, 649 00:40:46,760 --> 00:40:49,440 Speaker 1: and it's you know, you have you can't make a mistake. 650 00:40:49,520 --> 00:40:53,359 Speaker 1: You have to be perfect and sharp, and uh, it's 651 00:40:53,480 --> 00:40:55,880 Speaker 1: and show that you can dance with other people and 652 00:40:55,880 --> 00:40:58,760 Speaker 1: blend in because it's not about being you know, broadways 653 00:40:58,800 --> 00:41:01,400 Speaker 1: about like having your own personality and your own flair. 654 00:41:01,480 --> 00:41:03,520 Speaker 1: And they hire Anna because of she's Anna, and they 655 00:41:03,600 --> 00:41:06,399 Speaker 1: hire me because I'm me. Rockets. You're hired because you 656 00:41:06,440 --> 00:41:10,320 Speaker 1: can fit into a line. So it's a little bit different. 657 00:41:12,040 --> 00:41:15,359 Speaker 1: Leg right where it's supposed to be. If it's not, 658 00:41:15,600 --> 00:41:17,880 Speaker 1: you're out. So let me answer a question though, do 659 00:41:17,920 --> 00:41:21,040 Speaker 1: you have to measure your leg? Like do you have 660 00:41:21,080 --> 00:41:24,319 Speaker 1: to know exactly where to kick? Like how do you know? 661 00:41:24,560 --> 00:41:26,239 Speaker 1: I mean, is it like right to your shoulder and 662 00:41:26,280 --> 00:41:29,319 Speaker 1: then stop? Or you know the eye high? So like 663 00:41:29,400 --> 00:41:33,000 Speaker 1: where your toe has to go to your eye, so 664 00:41:33,040 --> 00:41:35,560 Speaker 1: it can't go above and it can't go below. It 665 00:41:35,560 --> 00:41:38,000 Speaker 1: has to go right to your eye. And the tallest 666 00:41:38,040 --> 00:41:39,600 Speaker 1: girls are in the center of the line, so I 667 00:41:39,680 --> 00:41:42,120 Speaker 1: was the tallest, and then the shorter girls are on 668 00:41:42,160 --> 00:41:44,360 Speaker 1: the end. It gives the illusion that the line's the same, 669 00:41:44,640 --> 00:41:47,480 Speaker 1: that everyone's the same height. But as long as everyone 670 00:41:47,560 --> 00:41:50,440 Speaker 1: kicks to their eye, it also gives the illusion that 671 00:41:50,480 --> 00:41:54,200 Speaker 1: we're all kicking at the same height. So fun, you 672 00:41:54,239 --> 00:41:58,160 Speaker 1: know what the rocket thing? If you're if you love dance. 673 00:41:58,239 --> 00:42:01,120 Speaker 1: It's it's just it's sort of just like a you know, 674 00:42:01,360 --> 00:42:03,960 Speaker 1: it's like if you could be a roquette, like even 675 00:42:04,080 --> 00:42:06,279 Speaker 1: for a minute. It's sort of like one of those 676 00:42:06,440 --> 00:42:08,600 Speaker 1: accomplishments that you're like, oh my god, I can't believe 677 00:42:08,640 --> 00:42:11,640 Speaker 1: I did it well. And our dad, our dad took 678 00:42:11,719 --> 00:42:14,640 Speaker 1: us to New York, the whole family to New York 679 00:42:14,840 --> 00:42:18,279 Speaker 1: and saw the christ Show and the Easter Show. And 680 00:42:18,320 --> 00:42:19,719 Speaker 1: then that's when I was like, I want to be 681 00:42:19,760 --> 00:42:23,680 Speaker 1: a rocket. And then my opening night, the opening number 682 00:42:23,800 --> 00:42:26,600 Speaker 1: was the girls Flapped out of the Christmas Tree and 683 00:42:26,640 --> 00:42:30,719 Speaker 1: it was to Happy Holidays, and my mom and dad 684 00:42:30,719 --> 00:42:34,719 Speaker 1: and my whole family were like right there and wow, 685 00:42:35,160 --> 00:42:38,880 Speaker 1: out of the tree and like, my opening does it pay? It? 686 00:42:38,920 --> 00:42:42,839 Speaker 1: Does it pay anything? He does know, it's play really well. 687 00:42:42,920 --> 00:42:47,759 Speaker 1: They give you scholarship money, they give you an really insurance. 688 00:42:47,800 --> 00:42:50,080 Speaker 1: They have pt on the top floor. You can get 689 00:42:50,120 --> 00:42:53,200 Speaker 1: physical therapy every single day, which you do you sit 690 00:42:53,239 --> 00:42:55,160 Speaker 1: in ice tubs, like I mean, they take really good 691 00:42:55,160 --> 00:43:00,680 Speaker 1: care of you. Yeah, awesome. Well, I know going after 692 00:43:00,760 --> 00:43:08,840 Speaker 1: this year. Our parents, especially Dad, like Dad, anytime he 693 00:43:08,880 --> 00:43:12,480 Speaker 1: introduces Amanda to anyone ever, he's like, you know, Amanda, 694 00:43:12,920 --> 00:43:16,600 Speaker 1: was a radio City rocket. It was like the thing 695 00:43:16,840 --> 00:43:22,680 Speaker 1: the problem, like, it's such a rocket Ford Todd. How 696 00:43:22,719 --> 00:43:26,440 Speaker 1: did you deal with all this, especially with sisters and 697 00:43:26,600 --> 00:43:30,880 Speaker 1: boys and your sister's a roquette and your friends? I mean, 698 00:43:31,040 --> 00:43:33,200 Speaker 1: was ever like hey dude, your sister is a roquette, 699 00:43:33,239 --> 00:43:34,919 Speaker 1: Like she's hot. I mean, did you have to deal 700 00:43:34,960 --> 00:43:37,719 Speaker 1: with that guy stuff that I had to deal with 701 00:43:37,920 --> 00:43:40,759 Speaker 1: my sister being like hey man, like Kate, I'm like, 702 00:43:40,840 --> 00:43:45,759 Speaker 1: ah no, let's not go there. Yeah. In high school, definitely, 703 00:43:46,239 --> 00:43:49,759 Speaker 1: there were some of my best guy friends who were 704 00:43:49,840 --> 00:43:54,200 Speaker 1: after my oldest sister, Tracy, and they would be like, 705 00:43:54,520 --> 00:43:57,040 Speaker 1: you know, I'd always knew it was coming because there 706 00:43:57,080 --> 00:43:59,239 Speaker 1: was like some sort of like awkward sort of like 707 00:43:59,800 --> 00:44:04,000 Speaker 1: he so, you know, is it cool if I asked 708 00:44:04,040 --> 00:44:07,000 Speaker 1: your sister to homecoming or asked your sister out on 709 00:44:07,080 --> 00:44:12,240 Speaker 1: a day, so like yeah, that that happened several times. 710 00:44:12,480 --> 00:44:15,400 Speaker 1: It was weird. It was even weirder when my sisters 711 00:44:15,400 --> 00:44:17,920 Speaker 1: weren't into the student and I'd have to be like 712 00:44:18,080 --> 00:44:24,200 Speaker 1: the giver the news. Oh you were that brother. My 713 00:44:24,239 --> 00:44:27,879 Speaker 1: brother would never do that. What you like, let down 714 00:44:27,880 --> 00:44:33,800 Speaker 1: the guy easy, No, he's yeah, yeah, Oliver. You felt 715 00:44:33,960 --> 00:44:37,799 Speaker 1: you didn't know, you didn't need it. You just tell 716 00:44:37,920 --> 00:44:43,640 Speaker 1: me Anna, you went to college and you went to 717 00:44:43,719 --> 00:44:47,160 Speaker 1: New York. Amanda's there, but you're seven and a half 718 00:44:47,200 --> 00:44:50,120 Speaker 1: year years difference was it? Like? First of all, where 719 00:44:50,160 --> 00:44:52,279 Speaker 1: did you go to college? I went to f I 720 00:44:52,360 --> 00:44:55,200 Speaker 1: T I went to the fashions your technology. So I 721 00:44:55,239 --> 00:44:57,680 Speaker 1: had decided that I wanted to go to New York 722 00:44:57,680 --> 00:44:59,680 Speaker 1: because we started going to New York as kids and 723 00:44:59,719 --> 00:45:02,960 Speaker 1: then kept going. And then once Amanda was there for college, 724 00:45:02,960 --> 00:45:04,520 Speaker 1: we were going up all the time to see her, 725 00:45:04,640 --> 00:45:07,319 Speaker 1: like reviews and things she was doing. So New York 726 00:45:07,400 --> 00:45:08,960 Speaker 1: just started to feel like home, and I was like, 727 00:45:09,000 --> 00:45:11,719 Speaker 1: I want to go to school here too. And then 728 00:45:11,719 --> 00:45:14,360 Speaker 1: it basically as soon as I got there, we just 729 00:45:14,400 --> 00:45:16,600 Speaker 1: started hanging out all the time. I basically I have 730 00:45:17,120 --> 00:45:20,480 Speaker 1: two friends from all of college because I just didn't 731 00:45:20,480 --> 00:45:22,799 Speaker 1: even try to make friends on campus. I was like, 732 00:45:22,840 --> 00:45:25,400 Speaker 1: I have a sister who lives uptown. Why would I 733 00:45:25,480 --> 00:45:30,279 Speaker 1: need new people? So, and then you are aware at 734 00:45:30,280 --> 00:45:33,319 Speaker 1: this point there were just the two of us were 735 00:45:33,320 --> 00:45:35,960 Speaker 1: there at that point, right, Ali was in DC still, 736 00:45:36,800 --> 00:45:39,080 Speaker 1: was she? Yeah? Those early years, I don't think Ali, 737 00:45:39,239 --> 00:45:42,520 Speaker 1: that's right. Yeah. Allie came later Yeah, we were there 738 00:45:42,560 --> 00:45:46,040 Speaker 1: together alone for a couple of years all the time, 739 00:45:46,080 --> 00:45:48,560 Speaker 1: would like go up to Amanda's house and sleep there 740 00:45:49,239 --> 00:45:52,120 Speaker 1: and hung out all the time. And it was nice 741 00:45:52,120 --> 00:45:54,200 Speaker 1: because she also was on this weird, you know, not 742 00:45:54,360 --> 00:45:57,360 Speaker 1: normal nine to five schedule and that never ended. Like 743 00:45:57,400 --> 00:45:59,680 Speaker 1: the whole time we were new together, we would always 744 00:45:59,719 --> 00:46:02,520 Speaker 1: be both on this like unconventional work schedule and would 745 00:46:02,600 --> 00:46:05,839 Speaker 1: just we would always call each other and go, what doing, 746 00:46:06,040 --> 00:46:11,160 Speaker 1: what are you doing? Anything? Want to hang out these 747 00:46:11,239 --> 00:46:15,080 Speaker 1: weird fun days of fun. Was everyone super supportive of 748 00:46:15,120 --> 00:46:17,439 Speaker 1: each other, you know, or was there ever any sort 749 00:46:17,480 --> 00:46:20,120 Speaker 1: of jealousies or you need to be doing this or 750 00:46:20,160 --> 00:46:23,879 Speaker 1: I wish you were doing that? Now? Everyone was really supportive. Yeah, 751 00:46:24,000 --> 00:46:27,280 Speaker 1: really supportive. And we've all like lived together, like Todd 752 00:46:27,320 --> 00:46:30,960 Speaker 1: and Tracy live together. Ali and Tracy live together. I 753 00:46:31,080 --> 00:46:35,040 Speaker 1: lived with Ali for a long time. I've also kind 754 00:46:35,040 --> 00:46:37,480 Speaker 1: of lived with Biggie, I mean me, Biggie and Amanda 755 00:46:37,520 --> 00:46:40,160 Speaker 1: have now lived together. We've lived together now. Yeah, we 756 00:46:40,280 --> 00:46:43,440 Speaker 1: and we all really it's very odd. We all really 757 00:46:43,440 --> 00:46:47,239 Speaker 1: get along and love each other a lot. Yeah, that's awesome, Kate. 758 00:46:47,320 --> 00:46:50,160 Speaker 1: We got to figure this out because we never did it. 759 00:46:51,320 --> 00:46:53,279 Speaker 1: We never did any of this stuff. You know, I 760 00:46:53,320 --> 00:46:56,360 Speaker 1: feel like we're close, but a lot of people are closer, 761 00:46:56,560 --> 00:46:59,000 Speaker 1: you know what I mean. I feel like we're doing 762 00:46:59,200 --> 00:47:02,560 Speaker 1: just fine. I have plenty of you and I don't 763 00:47:02,560 --> 00:47:09,319 Speaker 1: need more, exactly, that's exactly. But we're totally fine. Like 764 00:47:09,440 --> 00:47:16,760 Speaker 1: it's all good and all right. But if you need more, Oliver, 765 00:47:17,000 --> 00:47:19,080 Speaker 1: I want you to be happy. I'm here for you. 766 00:47:20,600 --> 00:47:41,400 Speaker 1: I will I'm moving in. Ollipop olipp How's how's bingie Bongie? 767 00:47:41,400 --> 00:47:44,280 Speaker 1: Liking the ollipops last time? Remember you try to sneak 768 00:47:44,280 --> 00:47:46,760 Speaker 1: one in on him. They love them. They their favorite. 769 00:47:46,760 --> 00:47:49,520 Speaker 1: They love the vintage cola. Oh yes, I'm a root 770 00:47:49,560 --> 00:47:51,480 Speaker 1: beer guy all the way. And by the way, I 771 00:47:51,520 --> 00:47:53,359 Speaker 1: will say this, I can I can get. I can 772 00:47:53,440 --> 00:47:56,000 Speaker 1: drink my root beer. And not only does it have 773 00:47:56,480 --> 00:47:59,839 Speaker 1: almost no sugar, the ingredients give me my pre by. 774 00:48:01,040 --> 00:48:03,640 Speaker 1: There's plant fiber. They call this. There's a name for this, 775 00:48:03,840 --> 00:48:07,799 Speaker 1: Oliver Hadson, It's called functional ingredients. Oh okay, I don't 776 00:48:07,840 --> 00:48:09,919 Speaker 1: know that. I'm just going off of what's in my brain, 777 00:48:09,960 --> 00:48:12,760 Speaker 1: you know what I mean. Yeah, it's got the prebiotics, 778 00:48:12,760 --> 00:48:15,080 Speaker 1: so you get the benefit of a prebiotic. Then they've 779 00:48:15,080 --> 00:48:18,799 Speaker 1: got the fiber, plant fiber, and botanical, so it's all 780 00:48:18,800 --> 00:48:22,719 Speaker 1: about your microbiome. You know, microbiome the buzzword of the 781 00:48:22,800 --> 00:48:25,680 Speaker 1: year anyway. It does have much lower sugar than any 782 00:48:25,719 --> 00:48:27,799 Speaker 1: conventional soda, so it's only two to five grams of 783 00:48:27,840 --> 00:48:31,000 Speaker 1: sugar versus like a thirty nine grams without a coke 784 00:48:31,160 --> 00:48:34,000 Speaker 1: is or a forty four grams of orange fanta. And 785 00:48:34,080 --> 00:48:35,880 Speaker 1: I don't think people really understand. 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Anna, are 846 00:52:24,080 --> 00:52:28,040 Speaker 1: you married or I just went through a divorce as well. 847 00:52:28,200 --> 00:52:32,480 Speaker 1: I got married pretty young and went through a divorce, 848 00:52:32,560 --> 00:52:34,720 Speaker 1: And that's kind of what sparked me moving to Paris 849 00:52:34,719 --> 00:52:37,200 Speaker 1: in January. I kind of had to figure out my 850 00:52:37,239 --> 00:52:40,759 Speaker 1: whole life again, because it was I was living in 851 00:52:40,800 --> 00:52:42,760 Speaker 1: New York with my ex husband and I was working 852 00:52:42,760 --> 00:52:45,520 Speaker 1: for him, and so I suddenly kind of was like, 853 00:52:45,560 --> 00:52:47,239 Speaker 1: I have nowhere to live in no job, and so 854 00:52:47,360 --> 00:52:49,560 Speaker 1: I was like, I'm going to moved to Paris, Like 855 00:52:49,600 --> 00:52:51,760 Speaker 1: that was always my dream, and like if I wouldn't 856 00:52:51,800 --> 00:52:54,400 Speaker 1: have led this life that's now over, what will my 857 00:52:54,440 --> 00:52:56,360 Speaker 1: life have looked like if I just went for my 858 00:52:56,400 --> 00:52:59,480 Speaker 1: own dad. So that's why I moved to France. Anna 859 00:52:59,600 --> 00:53:02,960 Speaker 1: tell this story of your final zoom call under the 860 00:53:03,040 --> 00:53:12,520 Speaker 1: sparkling pink Eiffel Tower because of because of obviously COVID 861 00:53:12,680 --> 00:53:16,120 Speaker 1: courts aren't open, so I would have had to go 862 00:53:16,320 --> 00:53:19,840 Speaker 1: to Ohio to finalize this divorce and like in court 863 00:53:19,920 --> 00:53:22,120 Speaker 1: and like sit there as the judge like with her gavel. 864 00:53:22,760 --> 00:53:25,239 Speaker 1: But it happened on zoom and it was scheduled for 865 00:53:25,320 --> 00:53:29,200 Speaker 1: October first. But I already had plans on October first 866 00:53:29,239 --> 00:53:31,520 Speaker 1: to go watch the Eifel Tower because it was pink 867 00:53:31,560 --> 00:53:33,919 Speaker 1: for one night only for breast cancer awareness, and pink 868 00:53:34,040 --> 00:53:36,600 Speaker 1: is like my favorite color and it's like me and 869 00:53:36,640 --> 00:53:39,319 Speaker 1: I love Eiffle Tower, and so I was like, I'm 870 00:53:39,360 --> 00:53:41,800 Speaker 1: just going to do my zoom at the Eiffel Tower. 871 00:53:41,920 --> 00:53:44,080 Speaker 1: I'm not going to miss the pink Eiffel Tower. So 872 00:53:44,120 --> 00:53:46,959 Speaker 1: I was on zoom like getting divorced with the pink 873 00:53:47,000 --> 00:53:51,160 Speaker 1: Eiffel Tower sparkling at my background. Wow, and the judge 874 00:53:51,440 --> 00:53:56,560 Speaker 1: was loving it. The judge was like, no Canoe from 875 00:53:56,600 --> 00:54:03,040 Speaker 1: Paris And I was like, hi, your honor in the 876 00:54:03,120 --> 00:54:06,880 Speaker 1: store last night, like so she was like okay, like 877 00:54:07,080 --> 00:54:08,480 Speaker 1: you have to stay your name and where you live. 878 00:54:08,560 --> 00:54:11,400 Speaker 1: And I was like, I'm Anacoutes. I live in Paris, France. 879 00:54:11,400 --> 00:54:13,919 Speaker 1: And I was like and then we would just say 880 00:54:14,040 --> 00:54:16,080 Speaker 1: like you know all the things and raise our hands 881 00:54:16,080 --> 00:54:18,680 Speaker 1: and like the Eiffel Tower sparkling me. And she's like okay, 882 00:54:18,760 --> 00:54:21,360 Speaker 1: like it's final, like we'll get the paperwork in thirty days, 883 00:54:21,400 --> 00:54:25,160 Speaker 1: and she goes go enjoy Paris, Anna, and I was like, 884 00:54:25,480 --> 00:54:31,920 Speaker 1: thank you, you're honor. I was like, I love that. 885 00:54:32,000 --> 00:54:35,399 Speaker 1: The judge was like living vicariously through you, like there 886 00:54:35,440 --> 00:54:39,160 Speaker 1: was a part was a female judge of course. Yeah. 887 00:54:39,320 --> 00:54:42,000 Speaker 1: She was like I love this. She's like, I'm a 888 00:54:42,200 --> 00:54:46,360 Speaker 1: divorce I'm in Paris. Yeah, oh yeah, oh god, oh 889 00:54:46,400 --> 00:54:47,840 Speaker 1: I feel like I want to be Anna when I 890 00:54:47,880 --> 00:54:57,759 Speaker 1: grow up. Y'all, Oliver, we all do you guys have 891 00:54:57,880 --> 00:55:00,799 Speaker 1: been through everything. It sounds like Todd, you are with 892 00:55:00,880 --> 00:55:06,000 Speaker 1: two children. I'm assuming and my sons are named Oliver 893 00:55:06,040 --> 00:55:14,400 Speaker 1: and Hudson. What Oliver, let it get to your head. Wow, 894 00:55:15,120 --> 00:55:17,840 Speaker 1: take it in and let it amazing, Take it in 895 00:55:17,920 --> 00:55:24,800 Speaker 1: and let it go. That's half hour on this. This 896 00:55:24,880 --> 00:55:28,800 Speaker 1: is amazing. This is a beautiful day for me. Hey, Todd, 897 00:55:28,880 --> 00:55:34,840 Speaker 1: thank you. He was a huge fan of rules of 898 00:55:34,880 --> 00:55:44,160 Speaker 1: engagement and you know that's right. How old are the boys? 899 00:55:44,719 --> 00:55:48,520 Speaker 1: The boys are eleven and nine. But honestly, you know, 900 00:55:48,600 --> 00:55:50,799 Speaker 1: you guys, it's funny like we talk about this and 901 00:55:51,640 --> 00:55:58,040 Speaker 1: you've been through everything, I mean, religious weddings, divorces, the 902 00:55:58,480 --> 00:56:02,520 Speaker 1: terrible tragedy, and I wonder have you seen your sibling 903 00:56:02,600 --> 00:56:06,160 Speaker 1: bonds change through these years or do you feel that 904 00:56:06,239 --> 00:56:08,920 Speaker 1: you've always had that are now more than ever that 905 00:56:09,000 --> 00:56:13,319 Speaker 1: the bond is as tight. No, o, Kate, I think 906 00:56:13,360 --> 00:56:15,600 Speaker 1: you're so right. Like, I mean, this goes back to 907 00:56:15,719 --> 00:56:18,279 Speaker 1: when we were kids and it was like, you know, 908 00:56:18,280 --> 00:56:21,360 Speaker 1: if Tracy had a choir concert, we all went to 909 00:56:21,440 --> 00:56:25,040 Speaker 1: support Tracy. If you know, Todd had a piano recital, 910 00:56:25,120 --> 00:56:27,839 Speaker 1: we were all there to support. If I had if 911 00:56:27,880 --> 00:56:31,400 Speaker 1: I had a show, everybody came. It was like and 912 00:56:31,440 --> 00:56:33,640 Speaker 1: there was no like, well, but my best friend asked 913 00:56:33,640 --> 00:56:35,200 Speaker 1: me to go to a movie. It was like no, 914 00:56:35,360 --> 00:56:37,080 Speaker 1: and you didn't even want to go with your best 915 00:56:37,080 --> 00:56:38,520 Speaker 1: friend of the movie because you were like, no, Todd 916 00:56:38,520 --> 00:56:40,960 Speaker 1: has a piano recidle, like we're all gone. And I 917 00:56:41,000 --> 00:56:43,480 Speaker 1: think like that was just instilled in us in like 918 00:56:43,560 --> 00:56:46,719 Speaker 1: that young age. It was like this family unit and 919 00:56:46,800 --> 00:56:50,080 Speaker 1: I think it and you know, even like what what what? 920 00:56:50,400 --> 00:56:52,480 Speaker 1: What just happened? It was like as soon as Nick 921 00:56:52,520 --> 00:56:55,719 Speaker 1: got sick, Anna was in Ohio, Tom was in San Francisco. 922 00:56:55,800 --> 00:56:57,399 Speaker 1: Todd's like, I'm on my way, I'm in my car, 923 00:56:57,440 --> 00:56:59,120 Speaker 1: I'm driving, and Anna was like, Amanda, as soon as 924 00:56:59,120 --> 00:57:01,080 Speaker 1: I can get there, I'm there, and it was just 925 00:57:01,160 --> 00:57:04,239 Speaker 1: like it's bad. It's like, yeah, we have each other's backs. 926 00:57:04,440 --> 00:57:06,799 Speaker 1: Our parents taught us that though they were like, you 927 00:57:06,920 --> 00:57:11,040 Speaker 1: are family, We take care of each other. We prioritize 928 00:57:11,080 --> 00:57:13,839 Speaker 1: each other like your family are the only ones who 929 00:57:13,880 --> 00:57:17,400 Speaker 1: at the end of the day have to be your family, 930 00:57:17,600 --> 00:57:19,240 Speaker 1: Like you're never going to get rid of them, This 931 00:57:19,360 --> 00:57:21,960 Speaker 1: is always your sister. And when we would fight, we 932 00:57:22,040 --> 00:57:24,840 Speaker 1: had to read Versus from the Bible and apologize to 933 00:57:24,880 --> 00:57:28,600 Speaker 1: each other, like we weren't allowed to stay mad. We 934 00:57:28,680 --> 00:57:31,240 Speaker 1: all even like we never the concept of like going 935 00:57:31,280 --> 00:57:33,240 Speaker 1: on vacation with a friend or bringing a friend on 936 00:57:33,320 --> 00:57:35,560 Speaker 1: vacation did not exist in our family, like we were 937 00:57:35,600 --> 00:57:40,080 Speaker 1: each other's friends. And I experiencing going through all these 938 00:57:40,120 --> 00:57:42,640 Speaker 1: hard times together and going through all these hard things 939 00:57:42,680 --> 00:57:46,800 Speaker 1: only strengthen that bond and made us realize like all 940 00:57:46,840 --> 00:57:49,320 Speaker 1: the more like boy, or mom and dad right, Like, 941 00:57:49,480 --> 00:57:52,840 Speaker 1: at the end of the day, your siblings will show 942 00:57:52,960 --> 00:57:55,040 Speaker 1: up for you in a way that no one else will, 943 00:57:55,160 --> 00:57:57,880 Speaker 1: and they'll understand you in a way no one else will. 944 00:57:58,480 --> 00:58:01,360 Speaker 1: And the way we were able to just start naturally 945 00:58:01,600 --> 00:58:06,080 Speaker 1: taking care of each other and anticipating each other's needs, 946 00:58:06,120 --> 00:58:08,360 Speaker 1: Like Amanda would come out of the bedroom being like 947 00:58:08,440 --> 00:58:10,600 Speaker 1: I'm starving, and I would be like, I just whipped 948 00:58:10,640 --> 00:58:15,440 Speaker 1: up lunch, and like you can preemptively anticipate what your 949 00:58:15,480 --> 00:58:18,160 Speaker 1: sibling needs because you've lived with them your whole life 950 00:58:18,200 --> 00:58:22,640 Speaker 1: and you know them inside out, and that only exists 951 00:58:22,640 --> 00:58:26,520 Speaker 1: with siblings, and that bond only gets stronger as you 952 00:58:26,600 --> 00:58:29,520 Speaker 1: go through these hard times and you realize, like, boy, 953 00:58:29,840 --> 00:58:34,360 Speaker 1: no one is there for me, like my family love that. 954 00:58:35,240 --> 00:58:37,720 Speaker 1: Are you guys? Are you guys brutally honest with each other? 955 00:58:37,840 --> 00:58:41,240 Speaker 1: Can you express when you are not liking something? You know, 956 00:58:41,480 --> 00:58:45,240 Speaker 1: when when when you've been rubbed the wrong way? Is 957 00:58:45,280 --> 00:58:49,040 Speaker 1: the communication between everyone pretty open and the bad even 958 00:58:49,080 --> 00:58:52,680 Speaker 1: with the bad stuff? Yeah, I think yes, I think 959 00:58:52,720 --> 00:58:56,440 Speaker 1: it starts with another sibling though, like I'll call someone 960 00:58:56,440 --> 00:59:03,200 Speaker 1: else to like initially complain to someone else. I'll start 961 00:59:03,520 --> 00:59:06,440 Speaker 1: playing with Amanda with biggie, I'll be a biggie. I'll 962 00:59:06,480 --> 00:59:10,280 Speaker 1: be like, oh, I know, and then you can usually 963 00:59:10,320 --> 00:59:13,360 Speaker 1: address the person if you need to, but you bet first, 964 00:59:13,840 --> 00:59:17,040 Speaker 1: like check what you're gonna say with another or it'll 965 00:59:17,040 --> 00:59:19,240 Speaker 1: happen where then Todd will call me and be like, 966 00:59:19,360 --> 00:59:22,480 Speaker 1: just you know, Annie's mad at you because you did this, 967 00:59:22,640 --> 00:59:24,680 Speaker 1: and I'll be like, I didn't mean to do that, 968 00:59:25,400 --> 00:59:28,240 Speaker 1: and I'll be like, well, just so you know she's mad. 969 00:59:29,320 --> 00:59:32,440 Speaker 1: One other sibling will break the news to you a lot. 970 00:59:32,840 --> 00:59:38,040 Speaker 1: That's you have that thing where like people judge your choices, 971 00:59:38,920 --> 00:59:43,600 Speaker 1: where like one will be like, why is she doing that? 972 00:59:44,400 --> 00:59:49,880 Speaker 1: And I think that that she should. Yes, I don't know, no, 973 00:59:51,280 --> 00:59:56,240 Speaker 1: I think sometimes yeah sometimes actually yeah there's yeah, yeah, 974 00:59:56,520 --> 01:00:00,000 Speaker 1: like uh like Todd was just you know, texting me before. 975 01:00:00,080 --> 01:00:02,200 Speaker 1: Are we going on about how Anna's running away from 976 01:00:02,200 --> 01:00:06,560 Speaker 1: her problems by going to Paris? Like that You're the 977 01:00:06,600 --> 01:00:12,840 Speaker 1: only person I felt understand Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, 978 01:00:12,960 --> 01:00:16,680 Speaker 1: definitely I think to a certain extent. Yeah, even either 979 01:00:16,840 --> 01:00:19,840 Speaker 1: night you said, like me and Ali and Amanda used 980 01:00:19,840 --> 01:00:21,040 Speaker 1: to hang out a lot because we were all in 981 01:00:21,040 --> 01:00:22,920 Speaker 1: New York together, and Amanda the night was like yeah, 982 01:00:22,960 --> 01:00:24,520 Speaker 1: well sometimes we'd all hang out and then you'd leave 983 01:00:24,560 --> 01:00:26,400 Speaker 1: and me and Ali would be like, why did she 984 01:00:26,520 --> 01:00:28,560 Speaker 1: just say that? Like what was that about? Yeah, so 985 01:00:28,720 --> 01:00:34,760 Speaker 1: that happened, Anna and Amanda. You are writing a book. Yeah. 986 01:00:34,960 --> 01:00:39,200 Speaker 1: So it's a memoir of everything that happened this past 987 01:00:39,280 --> 01:00:43,200 Speaker 1: year with starting you know, in March with Nick, and 988 01:00:43,240 --> 01:00:46,960 Speaker 1: then you know, being rescued by Anna and Todd and 989 01:00:47,160 --> 01:00:51,360 Speaker 1: then my family, and and then just going through that 990 01:00:51,440 --> 01:00:55,920 Speaker 1: whole process and the highs and the lows, and there 991 01:00:56,000 --> 01:00:59,920 Speaker 1: was a lot I shared on Instagram. There's a mountain 992 01:01:00,160 --> 01:01:04,000 Speaker 1: underneath that no one knows. And so it's all of 993 01:01:04,040 --> 01:01:09,920 Speaker 1: that and beautiful, really funny, crazy stories that will make 994 01:01:09,960 --> 01:01:12,680 Speaker 1: you laugh. And then you know the next pager in tears, 995 01:01:12,840 --> 01:01:16,720 Speaker 1: and in writing it, we've you know, when Anna's in Paris. 996 01:01:16,800 --> 01:01:19,080 Speaker 1: I finished writing, I put Elvis down for bed, and 997 01:01:19,120 --> 01:01:21,880 Speaker 1: then I usually start writing and then I go to sleep, 998 01:01:21,920 --> 01:01:23,960 Speaker 1: and as I'm going to see she's waking up in Paris, 999 01:01:24,000 --> 01:01:26,840 Speaker 1: so I'll text her and be like, sister, I'm done. 1000 01:01:26,880 --> 01:01:29,280 Speaker 1: I just finish this chapter and I'm in tears and 1001 01:01:29,320 --> 01:01:31,400 Speaker 1: I can't believe this happened. And then she would wake 1002 01:01:31,480 --> 01:01:33,640 Speaker 1: up and she's like man's I know, you know, I 1003 01:01:34,680 --> 01:01:36,240 Speaker 1: was writing something the other day, but I was like 1004 01:01:36,320 --> 01:01:38,880 Speaker 1: laughing because I was remembering us, you know, wearing the 1005 01:01:39,080 --> 01:01:41,960 Speaker 1: like face masks and watching Gilmore Girls, and you're just like, 1006 01:01:42,560 --> 01:01:45,680 Speaker 1: you know, so it's just like a mix of everything 1007 01:01:45,800 --> 01:01:49,160 Speaker 1: that that time was. We sent Todd the other night. 1008 01:01:49,200 --> 01:01:51,200 Speaker 1: Now that we're together, we're reading through it all as 1009 01:01:51,240 --> 01:01:54,880 Speaker 1: like the final to our publisher in December, and we 1010 01:01:55,000 --> 01:01:58,120 Speaker 1: sent Todd chapter ten because we read through it and 1011 01:01:58,160 --> 01:02:00,800 Speaker 1: we were laughing because it's just a after about what 1012 01:02:00,840 --> 01:02:03,880 Speaker 1: it's like to live together as siblings for the first 1013 01:02:03,880 --> 01:02:08,800 Speaker 1: time in fifteen years. Other people like it was me 1014 01:02:08,920 --> 01:02:11,760 Speaker 1: Todd in a manner our spouses are not there and 1015 01:02:11,800 --> 01:02:15,000 Speaker 1: we're just siblings again with a baby. With the baby, 1016 01:02:15,400 --> 01:02:23,120 Speaker 1: so it was cated, yeah, cracking up, and it's it's 1017 01:02:23,520 --> 01:02:27,360 Speaker 1: we've noticed the book too is a beautiful tribute to 1018 01:02:27,360 --> 01:02:30,800 Speaker 1: to what it's you know, to family and siblings and 1019 01:02:30,800 --> 01:02:33,960 Speaker 1: and you know, Nick's family and Nick's mom, Like it's 1020 01:02:34,000 --> 01:02:38,640 Speaker 1: really just a beautiful tribute to relationships and family bond 1021 01:02:38,880 --> 01:02:41,480 Speaker 1: as as much as it is about the story, Like 1022 01:02:41,560 --> 01:02:46,320 Speaker 1: it's it's gonna be great. It's really a beautiful it's 1023 01:02:46,360 --> 01:02:49,520 Speaker 1: It's beautiful in so many ways. I look forward to 1024 01:02:49,600 --> 01:02:54,000 Speaker 1: reading it. And Elvis is a is a lucky boy 1025 01:02:54,120 --> 01:02:59,000 Speaker 1: to have such great aunties and uncles. Yeah, Elvis took 1026 01:02:59,600 --> 01:03:03,160 Speaker 1: a like to Todd very early on. Todd drove down 1027 01:03:03,200 --> 01:03:09,080 Speaker 1: when we first moved to la in September of gosh, 1028 01:03:09,120 --> 01:03:12,840 Speaker 1: what was that twenty nineteen, Nicks, Yeah, you drove down 1029 01:03:13,120 --> 01:03:15,600 Speaker 1: and met Elvis for the first time, and Elvis just 1030 01:03:15,960 --> 01:03:20,760 Speaker 1: like went right to Todd. And so then when Todd 1031 01:03:20,800 --> 01:03:24,120 Speaker 1: came down to live with me in April, it was 1032 01:03:24,280 --> 01:03:28,200 Speaker 1: very cute because Elvis, you know, really, you know, he 1033 01:03:28,280 --> 01:03:31,439 Speaker 1: needs he needs that male energy, you know. And so 1034 01:03:32,200 --> 01:03:36,400 Speaker 1: I'm so grateful that he has Todd just six hours north, 1035 01:03:36,400 --> 01:03:39,320 Speaker 1: because whenever Elvis sees Todd now it's the cutest thing, 1036 01:03:39,440 --> 01:03:45,560 Speaker 1: like run seas like it's so cute, and just goes 1037 01:03:45,680 --> 01:03:49,640 Speaker 1: right to Todd and Todd's boys, and it's really really sweet. 1038 01:03:49,680 --> 01:03:52,720 Speaker 1: I feel very lucky to have him there and have 1039 01:03:52,800 --> 01:03:55,880 Speaker 1: such a great uncle. And then Anna is like another 1040 01:03:55,960 --> 01:03:59,560 Speaker 1: mom to him. Man. I still remember that first time 1041 01:03:59,640 --> 01:04:02,840 Speaker 1: meeting Elvis because I got there like just before lunch, 1042 01:04:02,920 --> 01:04:05,840 Speaker 1: and I got to do the like byb naps on 1043 01:04:05,920 --> 01:04:09,120 Speaker 1: you thing which was the best, the best, because I 1044 01:04:09,240 --> 01:04:12,080 Speaker 1: just oh, it was just like get to beat the 1045 01:04:12,080 --> 01:04:14,040 Speaker 1: new nephew and like get to do the baby nap, 1046 01:04:14,120 --> 01:04:21,600 Speaker 1: which is uh you You're just like I feel so whole. God, 1047 01:04:21,760 --> 01:04:24,840 Speaker 1: Sunday football with my first kid, and and he would 1048 01:04:24,880 --> 01:04:27,480 Speaker 1: just fall asleep on me and I'm watching football. I'm like, 1049 01:04:28,320 --> 01:04:31,360 Speaker 1: it doesn't it doesn't get much better than that right now? 1050 01:04:31,600 --> 01:04:35,680 Speaker 1: Oh God, I just have a question. You know, when 1051 01:04:35,720 --> 01:04:40,840 Speaker 1: you were going through this this sort of oscillation between 1052 01:04:40,960 --> 01:04:44,680 Speaker 1: hope and despair, you know, it's like there's hope and 1053 01:04:44,720 --> 01:04:49,160 Speaker 1: then it gets stripped from you and then and then 1054 01:04:49,200 --> 01:04:52,280 Speaker 1: the hope comes back. I mean, how was that roller coaster? 1055 01:04:52,360 --> 01:04:54,880 Speaker 1: And how did you just even mentally, how did you 1056 01:04:54,920 --> 01:05:00,680 Speaker 1: mentally deal with that? Yes, and it was it was 1057 01:05:00,800 --> 01:05:05,520 Speaker 1: exactly that, like every two minutes it would change. The 1058 01:05:05,520 --> 01:05:07,320 Speaker 1: phone would ring in the house, and it was like 1059 01:05:07,680 --> 01:05:10,400 Speaker 1: it was it we were, we had we had a 1060 01:05:10,400 --> 01:05:13,200 Speaker 1: whole thing. Anna would take Elvis outside because Elvis would 1061 01:05:13,280 --> 01:05:14,840 Speaker 1: you know, once he was taken from me, he was 1062 01:05:14,880 --> 01:05:18,760 Speaker 1: stay screaming. So Elvis would go outside. Todd would set 1063 01:05:18,840 --> 01:05:20,760 Speaker 1: up the recorder like he would grab his phone, set 1064 01:05:20,800 --> 01:05:22,360 Speaker 1: up the recorder and then also they get a pen 1065 01:05:22,400 --> 01:05:24,360 Speaker 1: and paper like to take notes. I would put the 1066 01:05:24,400 --> 01:05:27,960 Speaker 1: doctor on speaker, and so we had this whole system 1067 01:05:28,680 --> 01:05:31,600 Speaker 1: and innately, you know, it was either good news or 1068 01:05:31,640 --> 01:05:34,360 Speaker 1: bad news, and then we would hang up the phone 1069 01:05:35,040 --> 01:05:38,600 Speaker 1: and then literally like a half hour later, the phone 1070 01:05:38,600 --> 01:05:41,000 Speaker 1: would ring and it would be the exact opposite news, 1071 01:05:41,320 --> 01:05:43,720 Speaker 1: and you would and so it was just literally like 1072 01:05:43,800 --> 01:05:47,440 Speaker 1: this constant daily like high and low. I remember Biggie 1073 01:05:47,520 --> 01:05:49,720 Speaker 1: you saying something to me one day you were like, gosh, 1074 01:05:49,760 --> 01:05:52,440 Speaker 1: the high and low. It's like one day you're high, 1075 01:05:52,520 --> 01:05:55,640 Speaker 1: the next day you're low. Because it's like literally you 1076 01:05:55,760 --> 01:06:00,720 Speaker 1: can't honestly, I don't know how. I don't know how. 1077 01:06:00,800 --> 01:06:02,520 Speaker 1: And we all did it, so I mean like they 1078 01:06:02,520 --> 01:06:05,520 Speaker 1: were all there. I mean I think I just foused 1079 01:06:05,560 --> 01:06:09,400 Speaker 1: on getting through and I truly did believe you guys 1080 01:06:09,440 --> 01:06:13,920 Speaker 1: that the end would be hope. So I think I 1081 01:06:13,960 --> 01:06:17,320 Speaker 1: think I just got there thinking this is this is 1082 01:06:17,320 --> 01:06:19,440 Speaker 1: a roller coaster of up and up and downs and 1083 01:06:19,440 --> 01:06:23,200 Speaker 1: circles and twists and loops, but I'm going to ride 1084 01:06:23,240 --> 01:06:26,560 Speaker 1: in at the end like mm hmm. You know, So 1085 01:06:26,640 --> 01:06:29,920 Speaker 1: I just focused on that. But were you able to 1086 01:06:29,920 --> 01:06:33,200 Speaker 1: be in the hospital, I don't I mean yeah, or 1087 01:06:33,360 --> 01:06:38,560 Speaker 1: you were yeah, finally yes, yeah, oh god. She was 1088 01:06:38,640 --> 01:06:40,800 Speaker 1: also another high and low because you'd be at the 1089 01:06:40,880 --> 01:06:44,320 Speaker 1: hospital and I'd leave drive and I'd have to like 1090 01:06:44,440 --> 01:06:47,560 Speaker 1: drive home, so I'm my way home from Cedars. I'd 1091 01:06:47,560 --> 01:06:50,080 Speaker 1: be like crying, but then I would have to walk 1092 01:06:50,080 --> 01:06:52,360 Speaker 1: in the door and Elvis would be walking towards me, 1093 01:06:52,480 --> 01:06:54,760 Speaker 1: like with the biggest smile on his face, and so 1094 01:06:55,000 --> 01:06:57,520 Speaker 1: I had just immediately switched into mom mode of like 1095 01:07:02,120 --> 01:07:04,720 Speaker 1: because he hadn't seen me in like four or six hours. 1096 01:07:04,760 --> 01:07:09,680 Speaker 1: And so, so what is this? What's the silver lining here? 1097 01:07:09,760 --> 01:07:11,680 Speaker 1: You know what I mean, like you did with this 1098 01:07:11,760 --> 01:07:15,959 Speaker 1: experience that has been so public and you know, it's 1099 01:07:16,040 --> 01:07:20,640 Speaker 1: just so intense. Really, there's so I believe in silver 1100 01:07:20,720 --> 01:07:22,480 Speaker 1: lining sort of for everything, and that's been sort of 1101 01:07:22,480 --> 01:07:26,000 Speaker 1: the buzzword with this whole COVID experience. Just in general, 1102 01:07:26,080 --> 01:07:28,680 Speaker 1: I think everyone is trying to find that silver lining. 1103 01:07:28,720 --> 01:07:32,600 Speaker 1: I think there are many of them, if any, what 1104 01:07:32,720 --> 01:07:35,840 Speaker 1: is what is the silver lining here for you at 1105 01:07:35,840 --> 01:07:39,600 Speaker 1: the end of the day. There I mean, honestly, there 1106 01:07:39,600 --> 01:07:43,959 Speaker 1: were so many and even in a horrible tragic thing 1107 01:07:44,040 --> 01:07:49,520 Speaker 1: that happened to me, to us, to next family, you know, 1108 01:07:49,560 --> 01:07:54,480 Speaker 1: the fact that we all got to live together and 1109 01:07:54,600 --> 01:07:56,919 Speaker 1: got to be so close. Anna, Todd and I now 1110 01:07:56,960 --> 01:07:59,280 Speaker 1: have a new bond we call a new circle in 1111 01:07:59,320 --> 01:08:02,760 Speaker 1: our have a new circle in our family, and it's 1112 01:08:02,760 --> 01:08:07,280 Speaker 1: the three of us, and we're very close. We're forever 1113 01:08:07,400 --> 01:08:13,200 Speaker 1: bonded now in a way that you know is undestructible. Elvis. 1114 01:08:13,240 --> 01:08:15,720 Speaker 1: The fact that Elvis got to know his auntie and 1115 01:08:15,880 --> 01:08:19,200 Speaker 1: uncle so well, to know my family, my grandma, his 1116 01:08:19,280 --> 01:08:23,000 Speaker 1: grandparents so well, hit Nick's mom so well, that time, 1117 01:08:23,160 --> 01:08:26,280 Speaker 1: I mean, that time together we would never have. I mean, 1118 01:08:26,320 --> 01:08:29,120 Speaker 1: you guys know, as a big family, you never are 1119 01:08:29,160 --> 01:08:34,839 Speaker 1: all together for ninety days, you know, with others as adults, 1120 01:08:34,880 --> 01:08:37,240 Speaker 1: are lives and jobs. Like the fact that we all 1121 01:08:37,280 --> 01:08:40,200 Speaker 1: got to be together, nixt mom from Canada got to 1122 01:08:40,280 --> 01:08:44,439 Speaker 1: come and be with us, like that will never happen again. 1123 01:08:44,600 --> 01:08:46,559 Speaker 1: And the fact that it did and we got to 1124 01:08:46,600 --> 01:08:50,280 Speaker 1: all be so close and be together huge silver ligning. 1125 01:08:52,280 --> 01:08:55,920 Speaker 1: I mean, my my faith it got stronger. I mean 1126 01:08:55,920 --> 01:08:59,479 Speaker 1: that's a huge silver lining me personally, just like you 1127 01:09:00,120 --> 01:09:03,679 Speaker 1: talked to him, Do I talk to Nick? Yeah? Yeah, 1128 01:09:03,720 --> 01:09:06,519 Speaker 1: I talked to Nick a lot. Yeah, yeah, I talked 1129 01:09:06,560 --> 01:09:09,479 Speaker 1: to him a lot. When I'm driving drivings. Drivings my 1130 01:09:09,600 --> 01:09:12,880 Speaker 1: hardest time driving and at night or when I like 1131 01:09:12,960 --> 01:09:16,320 Speaker 1: am most sad. So I talked to him at night 1132 01:09:16,479 --> 01:09:19,920 Speaker 1: a lot and driving around town in LA and you know, 1133 01:09:20,280 --> 01:09:22,040 Speaker 1: act like he's sitting in the car next to me. 1134 01:09:23,160 --> 01:09:27,280 Speaker 1: Have you had experiences, you know, I mean visitation experiences, dreams, 1135 01:09:27,520 --> 01:09:31,160 Speaker 1: feel like feelings. You know. I've had one, which I 1136 01:09:31,240 --> 01:09:33,160 Speaker 1: talk about in the book. So I can't share it. 1137 01:09:33,240 --> 01:09:38,040 Speaker 1: But that's it. And I am so mad that, you know, 1138 01:09:38,400 --> 01:09:40,479 Speaker 1: other people will text me and be like, I dreamt 1139 01:09:40,520 --> 01:09:46,519 Speaker 1: of Nick last night, and I'm like, great, I wish 1140 01:09:46,600 --> 01:09:52,559 Speaker 1: I did. So. Yeah, have you guys tat Have you 1141 01:09:52,600 --> 01:09:56,880 Speaker 1: dreamt him Nick? No? No, I haven't dreamt of it. 1142 01:09:56,920 --> 01:09:59,360 Speaker 1: But I like, I called the girls a while back 1143 01:09:59,360 --> 01:10:02,280 Speaker 1: because I I'm clearly still processing everything, and I remember 1144 01:10:02,439 --> 01:10:04,600 Speaker 1: this actually goes back to your question, Oliver about the 1145 01:10:04,600 --> 01:10:09,400 Speaker 1: silver linings, is that I felt like of all of 1146 01:10:09,439 --> 01:10:15,559 Speaker 1: the sisters, I actually unfortunately didn't know Nick as well 1147 01:10:15,680 --> 01:10:18,880 Speaker 1: because of you know, the majority of their time together, 1148 01:10:19,200 --> 01:10:24,320 Speaker 1: Amanda Nick were in New York and so by the 1149 01:10:24,360 --> 01:10:25,960 Speaker 1: time by the time I got to LA, he was 1150 01:10:25,960 --> 01:10:29,759 Speaker 1: in the hospital. But one of the biggest silver linings 1151 01:10:29,760 --> 01:10:35,519 Speaker 1: for me was that the I got to see like 1152 01:10:35,600 --> 01:10:39,080 Speaker 1: the best of humanity, like consistently showing itself to my 1153 01:10:39,200 --> 01:10:44,320 Speaker 1: sister to help. And I feel like that not only 1154 01:10:44,600 --> 01:10:52,439 Speaker 1: a like the result of how Amanda was processing it 1155 01:10:52,560 --> 01:10:56,320 Speaker 1: so publicly and remaining so positive, but also a reflection 1156 01:10:56,439 --> 01:11:02,160 Speaker 1: of like who my brother in law was as a person. Yeah. 1157 01:11:02,200 --> 01:11:05,280 Speaker 1: So for me, it's like, in a way, I feel 1158 01:11:05,320 --> 01:11:08,759 Speaker 1: like I've gotten to know him, like I've I've gotten 1159 01:11:08,800 --> 01:11:14,280 Speaker 1: to see aspects of his personality through the responses to 1160 01:11:14,600 --> 01:11:18,320 Speaker 1: him from other people, like just saying like how how 1161 01:11:18,360 --> 01:11:21,080 Speaker 1: much he meant to him. Even when I was just 1162 01:11:21,120 --> 01:11:26,240 Speaker 1: with Amanda, like for my birthday and she was We're 1163 01:11:26,240 --> 01:11:27,920 Speaker 1: sitting at dinner and she's like, I've got to show 1164 01:11:27,920 --> 01:11:32,960 Speaker 1: you this reel that Nick used to go on the auditions. 1165 01:11:33,600 --> 01:11:36,439 Speaker 1: In this the guy that would film the auditions put 1166 01:11:36,439 --> 01:11:39,960 Speaker 1: together this reel, and he he prefaced it with how 1167 01:11:40,000 --> 01:11:44,120 Speaker 1: he always enjoyed working with Nick, and like, no matter 1168 01:11:44,200 --> 01:11:48,040 Speaker 1: what the circumstances were when Nick was preparing for these roles, 1169 01:11:48,040 --> 01:11:51,120 Speaker 1: how it was always like an enjoyable experience despite whatever 1170 01:11:51,120 --> 01:11:53,439 Speaker 1: the stresses of me have been. And so Amanda and 1171 01:11:53,479 --> 01:11:55,760 Speaker 1: I were watching this reel and so It's just like 1172 01:11:55,800 --> 01:11:59,320 Speaker 1: another piece of that, like of his life that I've 1173 01:11:59,360 --> 01:12:06,120 Speaker 1: gotten to see through through the experience, and also like 1174 01:12:06,200 --> 01:12:09,960 Speaker 1: being able to know Nick's mom and Nick's siblings better 1175 01:12:10,000 --> 01:12:13,680 Speaker 1: through all this. So yeah, those are those are a 1176 01:12:13,680 --> 01:12:17,840 Speaker 1: lot of the silver linings for me. And did you 1177 01:12:18,400 --> 01:12:22,040 Speaker 1: this year good? This would have been the first year 1178 01:12:22,280 --> 01:12:26,519 Speaker 1: like in twenty nineteen when it started. In all of 1179 01:12:26,560 --> 01:12:30,280 Speaker 1: twenty eighteen, we've all there's always been at least two 1180 01:12:30,360 --> 01:12:32,200 Speaker 1: or three of us in the same place at once, 1181 01:12:32,640 --> 01:12:36,200 Speaker 1: like the siblings living in the same city. In twenty 1182 01:12:36,280 --> 01:12:39,600 Speaker 1: nineteen was going to be the first year ever that 1183 01:12:39,640 --> 01:12:42,439 Speaker 1: we were everyone was in a different city. I was 1184 01:12:42,479 --> 01:12:46,160 Speaker 1: in Paris, Thomas and San Francisco. Ali is now in Canton, 1185 01:12:46,400 --> 01:12:49,200 Speaker 1: Tracy's in Houston, and Amanda was in La It was 1186 01:12:49,280 --> 01:12:52,880 Speaker 1: like what, like no clueses are together, Like we were 1187 01:12:52,920 --> 01:12:56,280 Speaker 1: all like this has never happened, and instead it ended 1188 01:12:56,360 --> 01:12:58,960 Speaker 1: up being the year where we were all we were 1189 01:12:58,960 --> 01:13:03,200 Speaker 1: all together in the same house for ninety days, together 1190 01:13:03,840 --> 01:13:06,840 Speaker 1: like more together than ever. It was. It was a 1191 01:13:06,880 --> 01:13:09,439 Speaker 1: weird thing, like it was that we were supposed to 1192 01:13:09,439 --> 01:13:11,439 Speaker 1: be a part and instead the world was like, I 1193 01:13:11,479 --> 01:13:16,760 Speaker 1: don't think this is a good idea. I feel like 1194 01:13:16,800 --> 01:13:18,880 Speaker 1: there's going to be so many people who are going 1195 01:13:18,960 --> 01:13:22,479 Speaker 1: to feel just a lot of love from the story, 1196 01:13:24,200 --> 01:13:27,320 Speaker 1: a very intense reminder like it's just we need our 1197 01:13:27,400 --> 01:13:30,280 Speaker 1: family and the importance of family and also you know, 1198 01:13:30,400 --> 01:13:36,120 Speaker 1: like too, I think one thing another silver lining I'm 1199 01:13:36,120 --> 01:13:40,040 Speaker 1: big on silver linings too, Oliver, is that if you 1200 01:13:40,120 --> 01:13:43,400 Speaker 1: aren't close to your family, like try try to. Like 1201 01:13:43,479 --> 01:13:45,360 Speaker 1: this is when you need to like try to reach out, 1202 01:13:45,400 --> 01:13:48,040 Speaker 1: Like I think, you know, I think it's important to 1203 01:13:49,479 --> 01:13:52,360 Speaker 1: cross that barrier. And if you've had a fight with somebody, 1204 01:13:52,400 --> 01:13:54,280 Speaker 1: it's like pick up the phone and be like, you 1205 01:13:54,360 --> 01:13:57,000 Speaker 1: know what, Like life is short, Like what are we 1206 01:13:57,080 --> 01:14:00,720 Speaker 1: fighting about? Still? Is it still important? Can we work 1207 01:14:00,760 --> 01:14:02,880 Speaker 1: through this? Can we get past this? Can we like 1208 01:14:03,040 --> 01:14:06,200 Speaker 1: learn to love each other again? Is that possible? If 1209 01:14:06,200 --> 01:14:09,080 Speaker 1: it's if there's like an inch of possibility, like can 1210 01:14:09,120 --> 01:14:12,200 Speaker 1: we try to get there? I think that's like so 1211 01:14:12,400 --> 01:14:17,720 Speaker 1: important because it's just this pandemic. What I think hopefully 1212 01:14:17,720 --> 01:14:21,120 Speaker 1: it has taught us is that we have to, you know, 1213 01:14:21,680 --> 01:14:25,080 Speaker 1: remember how important life is and be grateful for the 1214 01:14:25,120 --> 01:14:27,960 Speaker 1: things that we have, and if we have them, don't 1215 01:14:27,960 --> 01:14:31,040 Speaker 1: push them away, bring them closer. Yeah, it's so it's 1216 01:14:31,080 --> 01:14:34,120 Speaker 1: so true. Yeah, all right, let's do the speed round. 1217 01:14:34,280 --> 01:14:37,720 Speaker 1: This has been so awesome. Yes, ok okay, one word 1218 01:14:37,760 --> 01:14:41,920 Speaker 1: to describe each sibling, Okay, oh my god, you go first. 1219 01:14:42,880 --> 01:14:50,680 Speaker 1: For Todd. For Amanda, I would say like like ambitious, 1220 01:14:50,840 --> 01:14:56,479 Speaker 1: Amanda's ambitious, go get her, Todd. I think OCD comes 1221 01:14:56,560 --> 01:15:09,040 Speaker 1: to find. I'm sorry, I'll say Todd helpful. Anna fund Yeah, 1222 01:15:09,080 --> 01:15:15,600 Speaker 1: I would say Anna, Anna hilarious, Amanda gregarious. Ooh, that 1223 01:15:15,760 --> 01:15:22,400 Speaker 1: was a lot of us music on repeat you listened 1224 01:15:22,439 --> 01:15:24,439 Speaker 1: to as a kid. This will actually probably be different 1225 01:15:24,479 --> 01:15:29,080 Speaker 1: because you guys are are different in ages. Yeah. What 1226 01:15:29,280 --> 01:15:35,120 Speaker 1: was that album that just stayed on? Yes? Yes, I 1227 01:15:35,200 --> 01:15:38,160 Speaker 1: still know all the lyrics to every song. I think 1228 01:15:38,640 --> 01:15:43,960 Speaker 1: New Kids on the Block. That's me and me and Amanda. Yeah, 1229 01:15:46,120 --> 01:15:50,000 Speaker 1: for me, it was probably like Huey Lewis the News 1230 01:15:50,120 --> 01:15:54,640 Speaker 1: Is album four. Wow, that very specific. That's not you 1231 01:15:54,720 --> 01:15:57,400 Speaker 1: can tell your question mark, but it was very I mean, 1232 01:16:00,040 --> 01:16:08,479 Speaker 1: what is you knew exactly what it was. Who's who's 1233 01:16:08,520 --> 01:16:13,719 Speaker 1: the most competitive? Most competitive? I'm going to say it's Amanda. 1234 01:16:14,720 --> 01:16:17,479 Speaker 1: Oh it has to be here. In our siblings circle, 1235 01:16:17,520 --> 01:16:20,280 Speaker 1: I think Allie. Allie's like the if you're playing a game. 1236 01:16:20,479 --> 01:16:24,720 Speaker 1: Ali wants to win. Oh yeah, true, yeah, no, no, 1237 01:16:24,720 --> 01:16:27,479 Speaker 1: no, no no. Tracy is super competitive too. Think of all 1238 01:16:27,479 --> 01:16:30,680 Speaker 1: those contests Tracy won super Bowl contest, that contest at 1239 01:16:30,680 --> 01:16:35,560 Speaker 1: work where she uh yeah, Tracy is a good competitor. 1240 01:16:36,120 --> 01:16:47,000 Speaker 1: Maybe is the rule breaker? Anna, I think that we've 1241 01:16:48,680 --> 01:16:51,799 Speaker 1: number one quote is that's not real, that's not a rule. 1242 01:16:55,680 --> 01:16:58,960 Speaker 1: Like I'll be like, Anna, I pregnant. I can't you know, 1243 01:16:59,040 --> 01:17:02,519 Speaker 1: I don't associate. I'm like, that's not really you can 1244 01:17:02,640 --> 01:17:05,919 Speaker 1: have sushi And I'm like you don't you been pregnant? 1245 01:17:10,000 --> 01:17:15,720 Speaker 1: Who's the comedian in the house? Anna, Oh yeah? Or 1246 01:17:15,760 --> 01:17:21,679 Speaker 1: Allison Alison? Yeah. I would say Ali and Anna are 1247 01:17:22,000 --> 01:17:23,960 Speaker 1: a lot of the genesis. A lot of a lot 1248 01:17:23,960 --> 01:17:28,720 Speaker 1: of the comedy comes from those two. Like, yeah, I 1249 01:17:28,880 --> 01:17:31,120 Speaker 1: like create, I might start a lot of the comedy. 1250 01:17:31,280 --> 01:17:33,720 Speaker 1: If I need a comedy pickup, I'm calling Biggie. I'm 1251 01:17:33,760 --> 01:17:38,439 Speaker 1: calling Tot. Really, I feel like I'm I'm only funny 1252 01:17:38,479 --> 01:17:42,160 Speaker 1: if I'm really frustrated, or if I'm reacting to something 1253 01:17:42,800 --> 01:17:48,360 Speaker 1: that you guys are doing and you think my reactions, Biggie, 1254 01:17:48,360 --> 01:17:58,920 Speaker 1: you're always frustrated. That's how you're okay. The brain Amanda 1255 01:17:59,280 --> 01:18:01,639 Speaker 1: I think got the didn't you have the best GP 1256 01:18:01,800 --> 01:18:05,000 Speaker 1: A no, four point one two six. I was ten 1257 01:18:05,040 --> 01:18:08,200 Speaker 1: in the class. You had a four hundred. I had 1258 01:18:08,280 --> 01:18:13,720 Speaker 1: six hundred in my class one six. Yes, I I 1259 01:18:13,840 --> 01:18:15,639 Speaker 1: was also above a four point zh and I had 1260 01:18:15,680 --> 01:18:19,559 Speaker 1: higher a CT scores. I had the higher the family. 1261 01:18:19,680 --> 01:18:24,160 Speaker 1: I am. We should revisit. That was the most competitive question. 1262 01:18:29,520 --> 01:18:35,519 Speaker 1: Uh what about first celebrity crush? Oh the guy from 1263 01:18:36,160 --> 01:18:39,280 Speaker 1: Sugar Ray, he was on my planner. Oh, Mark McGraths, 1264 01:18:39,760 --> 01:18:50,320 Speaker 1: my marks, Aron High School, zach Efron, zach Efron High School, musical, 1265 01:18:50,479 --> 01:18:55,040 Speaker 1: zach Efron. Okay, what was yours? Bigs? Oh? For sure? 1266 01:18:55,120 --> 01:19:00,200 Speaker 1: Carrie Fisher, Oh from Starford from Star Wars, the old 1267 01:19:00,240 --> 01:19:03,400 Speaker 1: Bikini from Return of the Ji. Yeah of course, oh yeah, 1268 01:19:03,479 --> 01:19:13,360 Speaker 1: yeah yeah. Who's the most laid back? And uh yeah 1269 01:19:13,439 --> 01:19:21,000 Speaker 1: I agree? Yeah. Who do you go to for relationship advice? Oh? 1270 01:19:21,080 --> 01:19:25,720 Speaker 1: That is complicated. They all go to me once it's 1271 01:19:25,720 --> 01:19:33,080 Speaker 1: in a crisis mode. But the sisters, like my sense 1272 01:19:33,160 --> 01:19:37,600 Speaker 1: in anyway is that before it hits crisis, they'll be 1273 01:19:37,680 --> 01:19:41,439 Speaker 1: talking among themselves and then I get a call. I'm 1274 01:19:41,479 --> 01:19:43,920 Speaker 1: like the red phone, pick it up, and it's like 1275 01:19:44,400 --> 01:19:48,439 Speaker 1: people are in tears. I call someone different depending on 1276 01:19:48,520 --> 01:19:53,479 Speaker 1: what the relationship thing I'm seeking advice is on. Yeah, 1277 01:19:53,240 --> 01:19:59,479 Speaker 1: you're like, how scandalous it is? So you're so you've 1278 01:19:59,520 --> 01:20:02,479 Speaker 1: got a lot of would be Amanda, and it would 1279 01:20:02,520 --> 01:20:08,760 Speaker 1: go down from there to trade Tracy. You can't talk 1280 01:20:08,800 --> 01:20:12,320 Speaker 1: to trade if there's a scandal. You never called Tracy. 1281 01:20:17,720 --> 01:20:23,400 Speaker 1: First concert Spice Girls, Amy Grant, Amy Grant, Yeah, oh 1282 01:20:23,439 --> 01:20:26,240 Speaker 1: my god, like nineteen eighty five, Amy Grant. I think 1283 01:20:28,120 --> 01:20:38,960 Speaker 1: that's awesome, Amy Grant, that's amazing Cleveland Cland Yeah, are 1284 01:20:39,000 --> 01:20:41,960 Speaker 1: you guys drinkers? I mean or just you are? Okay? 1285 01:20:41,960 --> 01:20:45,840 Speaker 1: What are we drinking? What are we like? Oh? Negroni 1286 01:20:45,960 --> 01:20:50,000 Speaker 1: is my favorite with jin Or mescal I love. I 1287 01:20:50,040 --> 01:20:56,680 Speaker 1: live in France now I drink wine with lunch and 1288 01:20:57,640 --> 01:21:00,200 Speaker 1: I want to called what the you know, the want 1289 01:21:01,320 --> 01:21:06,800 Speaker 1: you know the pastie? Oh yeah, wait wait wait wait 1290 01:21:06,800 --> 01:21:11,000 Speaker 1: wait I ordered pastise. You guys. I thought that it 1291 01:21:11,080 --> 01:21:14,240 Speaker 1: was like a not very alcoholic option and then later 1292 01:21:14,360 --> 01:21:17,720 Speaker 1: learned it's like forty seven percent alcohol and I was like, yeah, 1293 01:21:18,160 --> 01:21:21,000 Speaker 1: it's like uzo. I want to wait wait, you guys 1294 01:21:21,240 --> 01:21:26,080 Speaker 1: know when I was twenty one and it was a 1295 01:21:26,200 --> 01:21:30,920 Speaker 1: piece is like a licorice, a liquorice based. Uh, it's 1296 01:21:31,280 --> 01:21:36,479 Speaker 1: it's supposed to be like an oh okay may uh 1297 01:21:38,520 --> 01:21:45,160 Speaker 1: may did bez you my pastie with a little bit 1298 01:21:45,160 --> 01:21:47,519 Speaker 1: of almonds, syrup and water and then it doesn't taste 1299 01:21:47,560 --> 01:21:49,880 Speaker 1: like liquorice anymore because I hate licorice. But I'm just 1300 01:21:49,920 --> 01:21:52,479 Speaker 1: like to do anything the French do, so I fit in. 1301 01:21:52,640 --> 01:21:55,920 Speaker 1: So I'm like, wait, bars a pant drink. It's like 1302 01:21:55,960 --> 01:22:01,200 Speaker 1: a bar of pan and fennel. Okay, guys. Last question 1303 01:22:01,280 --> 01:22:05,320 Speaker 1: we ask everybody is It's a two part question. The 1304 01:22:05,360 --> 01:22:12,640 Speaker 1: first part is if you could if you could emulate 1305 01:22:12,840 --> 01:22:17,280 Speaker 1: something of your sibling, a characteristic what would that be? 1306 01:22:17,720 --> 01:22:19,439 Speaker 1: And the other part of the question is if you 1307 01:22:19,640 --> 01:22:24,920 Speaker 1: could alleviate something from them that would actually you feel 1308 01:22:25,000 --> 01:22:30,240 Speaker 1: would make their life more fulfilling? What would that be? 1309 01:22:32,320 --> 01:22:36,519 Speaker 1: I know my alleviate for Todd stress stress, get rid 1310 01:22:36,560 --> 01:22:40,479 Speaker 1: of the I want all stress removed from big I 1311 01:22:40,560 --> 01:22:44,960 Speaker 1: want him to stress free and just fral it problic 1312 01:22:45,000 --> 01:22:49,080 Speaker 1: in the fields of San fran. I want to in 1313 01:22:49,120 --> 01:22:58,360 Speaker 1: the Maldives and have him enjoy it instead of Yes, 1314 01:22:58,760 --> 01:23:03,559 Speaker 1: I would love to emulate Biggie's level of thinking of 1315 01:23:03,680 --> 01:23:06,400 Speaker 1: other people and like just in a constant state of 1316 01:23:06,439 --> 01:23:09,799 Speaker 1: like what can I do to make this person's little 1317 01:23:10,000 --> 01:23:13,439 Speaker 1: day or moment more special and like better for them? 1318 01:23:14,120 --> 01:23:18,200 Speaker 1: That's very tough. I would like to take Todds. I 1319 01:23:18,240 --> 01:23:21,280 Speaker 1: hope to be a great I don't know if I'm 1320 01:23:21,360 --> 01:23:23,920 Speaker 1: using the right words. I want to be a great parent, 1321 01:23:24,000 --> 01:23:28,599 Speaker 1: Like my brother, you are a great parent, what do you? Well, 1322 01:23:28,680 --> 01:23:31,519 Speaker 1: I know, but my baby's only eighteen months and you 1323 01:23:31,560 --> 01:23:34,880 Speaker 1: know you're you've been a great parent for eleven years. 1324 01:23:34,960 --> 01:23:39,640 Speaker 1: So I want to be So I would want to 1325 01:23:39,680 --> 01:23:46,479 Speaker 1: take Amanda's positivity because I'm a super negative person. I 1326 01:23:46,520 --> 01:23:56,160 Speaker 1: would want to take Anna. I think like comedic like 1327 01:23:56,320 --> 01:23:59,439 Speaker 1: filter that she has like on her like worldly outlook, 1328 01:23:59,560 --> 01:24:03,280 Speaker 1: Like she's always telling me these hilarious stories of like 1329 01:24:03,360 --> 01:24:05,960 Speaker 1: she told me this one about how she was in 1330 01:24:05,960 --> 01:24:08,960 Speaker 1: this market in Paris and there was like this person 1331 01:24:09,400 --> 01:24:11,800 Speaker 1: walking away with this whole like basket of leaks, and 1332 01:24:11,840 --> 01:24:15,680 Speaker 1: she's like, my head immediately went to, like what is 1333 01:24:15,720 --> 01:24:17,880 Speaker 1: this man going to do with all those leaks? Follow 1334 01:24:17,920 --> 01:24:19,920 Speaker 1: the leaks? I was like, the fact that you have 1335 01:24:20,120 --> 01:24:26,559 Speaker 1: these thoughts that's just constantly well through a weird lens. 1336 01:24:27,520 --> 01:24:31,240 Speaker 1: Oh my gosh. Yeah, yeah, I agree. I'll take your 1337 01:24:31,280 --> 01:24:39,000 Speaker 1: weird lens and I will alleviate your adhd D the worst. Yeah, yeah, 1338 01:24:39,040 --> 01:24:41,320 Speaker 1: I would take you're ADHD away from you trying to 1339 01:24:41,360 --> 01:24:44,280 Speaker 1: get host. I would make you stay focused on an issue. 1340 01:24:44,439 --> 01:24:51,519 Speaker 1: I know things. I like that an now, Yeah, I 1341 01:24:51,560 --> 01:25:00,320 Speaker 1: would love to alleviate Amanda's destructive qualities of in the whole. Like, 1342 01:25:00,360 --> 01:25:03,559 Speaker 1: Amanda is the messiest person I've ever met. I wish 1343 01:25:03,600 --> 01:25:07,280 Speaker 1: I could just for some organization help that she could 1344 01:25:07,280 --> 01:25:12,240 Speaker 1: stick to. It's a disaster and when you're li like 1345 01:25:12,960 --> 01:25:17,960 Speaker 1: like the kitchen is like the kitchen crazing is a disaster. 1346 01:25:18,520 --> 01:25:21,400 Speaker 1: Tod and I send each other secret videos of destruction 1347 01:25:21,760 --> 01:25:24,320 Speaker 1: and exchange like look what I booked today. We were 1348 01:25:24,320 --> 01:25:26,479 Speaker 1: doing at throughout courting. The whole time, I was sending 1349 01:25:27,080 --> 01:25:31,160 Speaker 1: like four theme movies and sending them to Todd. I 1350 01:25:31,200 --> 01:25:35,880 Speaker 1: wish I could help you with that because and from 1351 01:25:35,880 --> 01:25:39,479 Speaker 1: your life big time. And I wish I if I 1352 01:25:39,520 --> 01:25:44,320 Speaker 1: could take something from Mandy your Amanda's work ethic is 1353 01:25:44,360 --> 01:25:47,840 Speaker 1: the most insane thing I've ever witnessed. She never stops, 1354 01:25:48,080 --> 01:25:51,439 Speaker 1: She goes, goes, goes all day long, no matter what 1355 01:25:51,760 --> 01:25:54,320 Speaker 1: job she has, no matter how many jobs she has, 1356 01:25:54,800 --> 01:25:58,840 Speaker 1: she just will continue to work for herself and now 1357 01:25:58,880 --> 01:26:02,559 Speaker 1: her son. I've never seen anyone do and that is 1358 01:26:02,600 --> 01:26:04,599 Speaker 1: not me at all. I'm like, let's take a three 1359 01:26:04,640 --> 01:26:07,360 Speaker 1: hour lunch with wine, So that would be a great 1360 01:26:07,400 --> 01:26:10,719 Speaker 1: thing to be able to steal because you work hard. 1361 01:26:12,160 --> 01:26:14,640 Speaker 1: I love it you guys. Thank you for doing this. 1362 01:26:14,640 --> 01:26:16,680 Speaker 1: But before we go, I do want to ask, are 1363 01:26:16,680 --> 01:26:20,759 Speaker 1: you still going to do workouts? Yes? Yeah, I'm still 1364 01:26:20,960 --> 01:26:24,720 Speaker 1: going to because right now. You know, luckily, with Quarantine, 1365 01:26:24,760 --> 01:26:27,680 Speaker 1: I just started off a subscription series. I'm turning that 1366 01:26:27,720 --> 01:26:30,799 Speaker 1: now into an app, so that will just be something 1367 01:26:30,840 --> 01:26:33,000 Speaker 1: I'll just spit into my schedule at some point and 1368 01:26:33,000 --> 01:26:36,400 Speaker 1: then I teach these live classes on Saturdays. So luckily 1369 01:26:36,439 --> 01:26:38,960 Speaker 1: I'm able to still keep it going. I mean, it's 1370 01:26:39,520 --> 01:26:41,400 Speaker 1: you know, I built that business from the ground up. 1371 01:26:41,439 --> 01:26:43,680 Speaker 1: It's like my baby, and it's what I started for 1372 01:26:43,760 --> 01:26:46,920 Speaker 1: myself after my divorce. It's such a part of me 1373 01:26:47,120 --> 01:26:50,160 Speaker 1: that I definitely and I love teaching, so I don't 1374 01:26:50,200 --> 01:26:52,080 Speaker 1: want to I don't want to stop that, you know. 1375 01:26:54,439 --> 01:26:59,360 Speaker 1: Good for you. Cool? All right, well you guys, I 1376 01:26:59,439 --> 01:27:04,680 Speaker 1: love you. Thank you guys. Thank you. Happy holiday. This 1377 01:27:04,880 --> 01:27:09,120 Speaker 1: was really fun. Happy holiday. Yeah, back at you you guys. 1378 01:27:09,640 --> 01:27:13,400 Speaker 1: Very You're inspiring. You know. I love your love. It's awesome. 1379 01:27:13,600 --> 01:27:16,479 Speaker 1: It's really really awesome. I wish Katie and I could 1380 01:27:16,479 --> 01:27:19,960 Speaker 1: have even half of what you guys have. Thank you. 1381 01:27:20,160 --> 01:27:27,400 Speaker 1: We're getting there, all right, guys. Happy Sibling Revelry is 1382 01:27:27,479 --> 01:27:30,960 Speaker 1: executive produced by Kate Hudson and Oliver Hudson. Producer is 1383 01:27:31,040 --> 01:27:35,479 Speaker 1: Alison Present Music by Mark Hudson a k A Uncle 1384 01:27:35,520 --> 01:27:35,760 Speaker 1: Mark