WEBVTT - QR Code - Shedeur Sanders Draft Pick / Shannon Sharp Sued (Part 1) 0:00:01.680 --> 0:00:05.120 Broadcasting from the Civic Cipher Studios. Welcome to the QR Code, 0:00:05.120 --> 0:00:08.480 where we share a perspective, seek understanding, and shape outcomes. 0:00:08.560 --> 0:00:11.480 I am Rams's job and I am q Ward, and 0:00:11.520 --> 0:00:13.399 we would like for you to stick around today because 0:00:13.440 --> 0:00:16.239 we have a lot to talk about. First up, we're 0:00:16.280 --> 0:00:19.120 gonna be talking about Shaudure Sanders. Is IM not saying 0:00:19.120 --> 0:00:22.320 that right? Yes? Should Sanders? Okay? You know, I famously 0:00:22.360 --> 0:00:25.599 am not the uh the sports guy, but Q is 0:00:25.680 --> 0:00:28.960 so he keeps me, he keeps me in line here. 0:00:28.960 --> 0:00:31.200 But we're going to talk about him and his uh, 0:00:32.600 --> 0:00:36.520 his getting drafted so late, the one hundred and forty 0:00:36.520 --> 0:00:39.599 fourth overall pick, and we're gonna, you know, kind of discuss, 0:00:40.240 --> 0:00:43.080 you know, some of the goings on and try to 0:00:43.159 --> 0:00:45.960 sort out why that happened. There's a lot of opinions 0:00:45.960 --> 0:00:48.600 online and I'm learning, so I know that Q is 0:00:48.640 --> 0:00:50.560 going to provide some insight there, but we're definitely gonna 0:00:50.560 --> 0:00:52.760 get into that. We're also gonna be talking about Shannon 0:00:52.920 --> 0:00:57.200 Sharp and uh, you know, his the lawsuit, the fifty 0:00:57.200 --> 0:01:00.520 million dollars lawsuit that's been filed against him. We're going 0:01:00.560 --> 0:01:05.120 to offer some maybe opinions on that. Story, So that's 0:01:05.440 --> 0:01:07.840 a troubling one, but obviously one we need to cover. 0:01:07.880 --> 0:01:10.399 We're also going to spend some time, if you're able 0:01:10.440 --> 0:01:13.440 to stick around for later in the show, discussing a 0:01:13.600 --> 0:01:20.319 judge that was arrested for trying to protect an immigrant, 0:01:20.600 --> 0:01:25.000 and we're kind of seeing the role of judges and 0:01:25.040 --> 0:01:29.119 the esteem that we typically assigned to judges. We're seeing 0:01:29.160 --> 0:01:31.480 that evolve in real time, and so we're going to 0:01:31.760 --> 0:01:34.479 spend some time discussing that story. And for our final 0:01:34.480 --> 0:01:36.520 story of the day, we're going to be discussing the 0:01:36.520 --> 0:01:39.000 movie Centers. So for those that are able to stick 0:01:39.000 --> 0:01:41.959 around for the entertainment section, we're going to hear from 0:01:42.080 --> 0:01:45.600 Ryan Coogler. There's a clip that I want to play 0:01:45.600 --> 0:01:49.880 for everyone. But also we're going to discuss the movie 0:01:50.080 --> 0:01:52.920 and kind of the cultural impact of the movie, because 0:01:52.920 --> 0:01:55.000 that's an exciting thing that a lot of folks are 0:01:55.040 --> 0:01:57.040 talking about as well. All that and so much more 0:01:57.080 --> 0:02:00.440 to stick around for. But around here, we'd like to 0:02:00.480 --> 0:02:03.120 start off feeling good. We hope you're feeling good too, 0:02:03.240 --> 0:02:06.760 So let's start off with our feel good feature. We're 0:02:06.760 --> 0:02:12.160 going to share a bit from MSN. This is the headline, 0:02:12.200 --> 0:02:17.520 rather is ACLU defeats Trump, signals Supreme Court shift. So 0:02:17.520 --> 0:02:20.240 I'll share a bit. The Supreme Court recently blocked the 0:02:20.280 --> 0:02:24.760 Trump administration from deporting Venezuelan's detained in Northern Texas under 0:02:24.800 --> 0:02:27.880 the Alien Enemies Act of seventeen to ninety eight. The 0:02:27.919 --> 0:02:32.080 Court's ruling overturned earlier guidance re requiring individuals to have 0:02:32.120 --> 0:02:35.400 a chance to present their cases before deportation. The American 0:02:35.440 --> 0:02:39.040 Civil Liberties Union or the ACLU, initiated the emergency appeal 0:02:39.160 --> 0:02:41.760 leading to this ruling, which may signal a shift in 0:02:41.800 --> 0:02:45.640 the conservative leading high court. So that's not nothing. 0:02:46.600 --> 0:02:49.040 I guess we can hold out hope. I tend not 0:02:49.200 --> 0:02:52.399 to and in instances like this because I don't look 0:02:52.440 --> 0:02:54.480 forward to being let down in that way. But you 0:02:54.480 --> 0:02:57.920 know it, someone standing up to Donald Trump and the 0:02:58.000 --> 0:03:01.520 idea that or getting back to the idea that everyone 0:03:01.600 --> 0:03:05.960 deserves due process, not just those who the other side 0:03:06.000 --> 0:03:10.800 deems worthy, was even themselves without due process, could be 0:03:10.840 --> 0:03:13.200 held in these same circumstances and could do nothing to 0:03:13.280 --> 0:03:16.320 prove that they don't deserve the same bad treatment that 0:03:16.320 --> 0:03:17.480 they're wishing on other people. 0:03:17.560 --> 0:03:20.680 Absolutely, you know, one of the things that you know, 0:03:20.680 --> 0:03:23.480 for people that aren't able to imagine or put themselves 0:03:23.520 --> 0:03:28.520 in the shoes of an illegal quote unquote person. Just 0:03:28.600 --> 0:03:31.960 imagine if you were taking a vacation and you were 0:03:32.000 --> 0:03:36.240 in England or you know, some country in the Middle 0:03:36.240 --> 0:03:40.360 East or Africa, and you were accused of stealing a 0:03:40.480 --> 0:03:42.920 candy bar from the store, and then they just took 0:03:42.960 --> 0:03:45.080 you and threw you to jail or sent you to 0:03:45.120 --> 0:03:47.360 some country where you don't know anyone, and you never 0:03:47.400 --> 0:03:49.120 had a chance to say, wait a minute, I didn't 0:03:49.160 --> 0:03:51.880 accuse that. That's what it must feel like to be 0:03:52.160 --> 0:03:54.040 You know a lot of people in this country right now, 0:03:54.040 --> 0:03:57.480 and so the acl you fighting for a due process 0:03:57.480 --> 0:03:59.280 in the Supreme Court, falling on the right side of 0:03:59.320 --> 0:04:03.200 history is not nothing. So we'll take it. Moving on 0:04:04.040 --> 0:04:06.880 for our first topic, we want to discuss today a 0:04:06.920 --> 0:04:10.360 little bit about culture. Shadure Sanders. I'm going to share 0:04:10.360 --> 0:04:15.160 a bit from PBS. It's not often that the one 0:04:15.200 --> 0:04:18.120 hundred and forty fourth pick is the biggest story of 0:04:18.160 --> 0:04:21.520 the NFL draft, but Shadur Sanders was not the usual 0:04:21.520 --> 0:04:24.960 one hundred and forty fourth pick, and a situation transcended football. 0:04:25.000 --> 0:04:28.440 The narrative around Sanders blurred lines between sports, race, and culture. 0:04:28.960 --> 0:04:32.279 The former University of Colorado quarterback was the center of 0:04:32.320 --> 0:04:34.880 a three day spectacle of cringe that will live in 0:04:34.880 --> 0:04:37.919 football lore for a long time. Sanders fell from a 0:04:37.960 --> 0:04:41.520 potential top five overall selection on Thursday to the fifth 0:04:41.600 --> 0:04:44.919 round on Saturday in an excruciating slide that had his 0:04:45.000 --> 0:04:49.640 supporters fuming and detractors laughing. The Cleveland Browns finally ended 0:04:49.680 --> 0:04:52.760 sanders As misery with the number one hundred and forty 0:04:52.760 --> 0:04:55.080 fourth selection, adding the twenty three year old to a 0:04:55.120 --> 0:04:59.880 crowded quarterback room that includes Joe Flacco, Kenny Pickett, Fell, 0:05:00.200 --> 0:05:07.560 rookie Dylan Gabriel, and the injured Deshaun Watson. So yeah, 0:05:08.080 --> 0:05:11.239 you know, I I'm really excited to hear your thoughts 0:05:11.279 --> 0:05:13.599 on the story because you know, famously, you know, of 0:05:13.600 --> 0:05:16.839 all the programs that we that we do together. You 0:05:17.120 --> 0:05:20.360 are and you're an athlete yourself. You come from that stock, 0:05:20.600 --> 0:05:23.680 you know for former athlete. I saw your face today. 0:05:23.720 --> 0:05:27.080 I'm definitely not saw your face, but you know kind 0:05:27.080 --> 0:05:29.000 of kind of uh, you know, help me and our 0:05:29.040 --> 0:05:31.640 listeners that may not be as familiar with the story 0:05:31.760 --> 0:05:34.040 understand kind of what's going on here, why this took place, 0:05:34.040 --> 0:05:35.000 and so. 0:05:35.440 --> 0:05:37.960 For those who are not you know, sports fans like 0:05:38.080 --> 0:05:42.680 my brother here, Shador Sanders, the son of Hall of Famer, 0:05:43.120 --> 0:05:47.800 you know, all time all pro Dion Sanders Uh as 0:05:47.800 --> 0:05:51.200 a quarterback at the University of Colorado, which I was 0:05:51.279 --> 0:05:53.159 lucky enough to be able to go on cover for 0:05:53.240 --> 0:05:58.479 iHeart he had. He had a pretty incredible college career. 0:05:58.600 --> 0:06:02.520 Started off at an HBC. You transferred to a Division 0:06:02.560 --> 0:06:08.440 I program where expectations were both very high and some 0:06:08.560 --> 0:06:11.360 expected him to fall in his face, you know, HBCUs 0:06:11.400 --> 0:06:14.400 they considered not high enough level of competition that he 0:06:14.440 --> 0:06:17.160 wouldn't be able to thrive or succeed with the big boys, 0:06:17.200 --> 0:06:20.760 and he proved a lot of people very wrong. The 0:06:20.800 --> 0:06:24.880 interesting thing about his career was that once he got 0:06:24.880 --> 0:06:27.240 to Colorado and they started seeing a little bit of success, 0:06:28.200 --> 0:06:31.200 people lined up to see them fail, and when they 0:06:31.200 --> 0:06:37.760 fell short, people standing ovation celebrated their losses. Part of 0:06:37.800 --> 0:06:42.039 that was resentment for his very very confident father, his 0:06:42.200 --> 0:06:46.599 very successful father, his very flamboyant father of must be 0:06:46.680 --> 0:06:49.160 the money fame, and of telling teams when he was 0:06:49.200 --> 0:06:51.200 about to get drafted they wouldn't be able to afford him. 0:06:51.200 --> 0:06:52.279 They have to put him on layaway. 0:06:53.440 --> 0:06:53.640 You know. 0:06:53.760 --> 0:06:56.720 So when that's your dad, there are people, and we 0:06:57.000 --> 0:06:59.000 can kind of all imagine in our head the type 0:06:59.040 --> 0:07:02.239 of people that want that type of black man to fail. 0:07:03.360 --> 0:07:04.600 There were others who. 0:07:07.480 --> 0:07:11.360 Their negative emotions and their kind of hater qualities had 0:07:11.400 --> 0:07:12.320 nothing to do with his dad. 0:07:12.320 --> 0:07:13.800 They had everything to do with him. You know. 0:07:13.840 --> 0:07:18.040 Shadur very famously scores touchdowns and then shows off. What 0:07:18.120 --> 0:07:20.600 I've been told is I think a quarter million dollar 0:07:20.680 --> 0:07:24.840 watch to the fans and attendance, which rubbed some people 0:07:24.840 --> 0:07:29.080 the wrong way as well. But what we saw with 0:07:29.160 --> 0:07:34.960 him is unprecedented because he was, by some measures, is 0:07:35.000 --> 0:07:38.000 by some awards, the top quarterback in college football last year. 0:07:38.720 --> 0:07:40.760 There weren't very many people that had him rate it 0:07:41.200 --> 0:07:44.200 lower than the second best quarterback in college football last year. 0:07:44.640 --> 0:07:47.760 And if you follow the draft at all, a quarterback 0:07:47.840 --> 0:07:51.120 is the most valuable position in football, and if you 0:07:51.160 --> 0:07:53.600 can get a good quarterback on a rookie deal, that 0:07:53.800 --> 0:07:57.320 kind of is the pathway toward monumental success for your team. 0:07:58.320 --> 0:08:02.280 Quarterback is over value you against other positions. I say 0:08:02.280 --> 0:08:05.200 that as to say, the number one defensive player, the 0:08:05.280 --> 0:08:07.680 number one running back, the number one wide receiver might 0:08:07.720 --> 0:08:10.800 be better players overall at their position and on the 0:08:10.880 --> 0:08:14.960 rankings of players overall, but because the quarterback position is 0:08:14.960 --> 0:08:17.840 so much more important and so much more valuable, typically 0:08:17.960 --> 0:08:22.320 a lower ranked quarterback will get selected before at higher 0:08:22.400 --> 0:08:26.200 ranked running back. So you know, one of the reasons 0:08:26.240 --> 0:08:28.400 why it was so strange that he went so long 0:08:28.440 --> 0:08:30.680 without being drafted is not only because he was ranked 0:08:30.720 --> 0:08:35.600 so high, but because other quarterbacks who were not as 0:08:35.600 --> 0:08:39.360 good as him were drafted before him. In a lot 0:08:39.400 --> 0:08:44.440 of cases, we don't like to call racism. We get 0:08:44.440 --> 0:08:48.160 tired of hearing ourselves say it. So there's cases where 0:08:48.200 --> 0:08:51.920 we make the devil's advocate argument just to not say 0:08:51.960 --> 0:08:56.160 it again. But there's really not very many other ways 0:08:56.200 --> 0:08:57.160 to justify that. 0:08:57.600 --> 0:09:00.679 Can I ask you this, whether other quarters that were 0:09:00.720 --> 0:09:01.920 drafted that were also black. 0:09:02.120 --> 0:09:05.560 Yes, the number one overall pick was black. But I 0:09:05.559 --> 0:09:07.319 wish I had the headline in front of me. There's 0:09:07.360 --> 0:09:11.080 a headline that reads this black quarterback doesn't have on 0:09:11.240 --> 0:09:18.199 flashy gold chains, you understand, So that that's underpinning of racism, right, 0:09:18.320 --> 0:09:19.880 be the be the do good or black guy. 0:09:19.920 --> 0:09:21.680 That's what I was going. Okay, so that's what don't be. 0:09:21.720 --> 0:09:26.360 The hippity hop, poppity hip, diamond chain, diamond watch, black guy, 0:09:26.440 --> 0:09:28.440 don't be like his dad, don't be like your dad, 0:09:28.480 --> 0:09:32.679 don't be like confident, don't be so confident, don't be 0:09:32.800 --> 0:09:37.439 so loud, don't be so ghetto. Right, all these things 0:09:37.440 --> 0:09:41.839 that they'll go without saying. And yes, there were other quarterbacks, 0:09:41.960 --> 0:09:45.120 actually two quarterbacks drafted before him that were black, But 0:09:45.200 --> 0:09:46.880 that's just like saying, what do you mean I'm racist? 0:09:46.920 --> 0:09:50.360 I have a black friend. So what the lesson that 0:09:50.400 --> 0:09:54.360 they were trying to teach here was be humble, Sit down, 0:09:55.679 --> 0:10:00.520 be humble. To quote the great uh doctor, the great philosopher, 0:10:00.559 --> 0:10:07.240 philosopher for Counton, California, mister Kendrick Lamar Duckworth. So yeah, 0:10:07.240 --> 0:10:09.840 and I've seen some of our colleagues argue that, you know, 0:10:09.960 --> 0:10:12.160 he didn't get drafted high because he wasn't that good, 0:10:12.760 --> 0:10:15.719 And I'm asking what did you base that on? Right, 0:10:15.800 --> 0:10:18.400 there's a reason why people thought he would be drafted higher. 0:10:18.440 --> 0:10:21.400 It wasn't just because he was famous. He won the 0:10:21.440 --> 0:10:23.959 award that college football gives to the best quarterback in 0:10:24.000 --> 0:10:24.440 the country. 0:10:24.559 --> 0:10:26.400 Oh you told me about this, right, So. 0:10:26.400 --> 0:10:29.360 It wasn't just our imagination that we thought he would 0:10:29.400 --> 0:10:33.800 go higher. And again, if you thought he wasn't that good, 0:10:36.240 --> 0:10:39.760 then the guys that were drafted before him, who didn't 0:10:39.760 --> 0:10:43.800 have as impressive numbers, who didn't have as much success, 0:10:44.160 --> 0:10:45.840 who were not ranked as high than how do you 0:10:46.000 --> 0:10:48.160 justify it selecting them before him? 0:10:48.440 --> 0:10:50.720 Okay, so how about this, real quick? Is this the 0:10:50.800 --> 0:10:52.400 guy that had the girlfriend? 0:10:53.559 --> 0:10:55.720 No, so that was Travis Hunter, his teammate, who was 0:10:55.720 --> 0:10:58.960 the number two overall pick in the draft. The Travis Hunter, 0:10:59.240 --> 0:11:01.559 just like you know, the quarterback got selected that got 0:11:01.559 --> 0:11:04.360 selected before him, cam Ward would be subscribed, would be 0:11:04.440 --> 0:11:05.840 described I'm sorry, the same way. 0:11:06.320 --> 0:11:10.120 So real quick, our is the guy Travis Hunter and 0:11:10.840 --> 0:11:13.120 Should Sanders. They're from the same team. 0:11:13.240 --> 0:11:17.120 Same team from HBCU to Colorado. 0:11:17.120 --> 0:11:20.840 They went together. So that's that's something that says something 0:11:20.880 --> 0:11:24.040 about Dion Sanders' coaching abilities, right, Okay, all right, So 0:11:24.040 --> 0:11:32.480 that's first. The second thing is for should Sanders, because 0:11:32.520 --> 0:11:34.680 I don't know how drafts work. When we say one 0:11:34.760 --> 0:11:38.080 hundred and forty fourth overall pick, does that mean that 0:11:38.160 --> 0:11:42.480 the team that picked him, which is the Cleveland Browns, 0:11:42.920 --> 0:11:45.640 they picked other people before they got to him. Yes, 0:11:45.840 --> 0:11:47.640 so they ended did they end up stuck with him 0:11:47.720 --> 0:11:49.840 or did they really want him? 0:11:50.160 --> 0:11:52.960 So that's the that's the trick, right. They're thirty two 0:11:52.960 --> 0:11:55.920 teams in the NFL. Every team picks in every in 0:11:56.000 --> 0:11:58.360 every round of the drafts. So the one hundred and forty 0:11:58.360 --> 0:12:01.400 fourth pick would have been thirty two, thirty two, thirty two, 0:12:01.520 --> 0:12:04.719 thirty two, fourth or fifth round. Okay, and we can 0:12:04.760 --> 0:12:08.439 we can verify that later. But yes, the Browns selected 0:12:09.280 --> 0:12:11.880 multiple players before they selected him. 0:12:12.200 --> 0:12:14.440 Does that mean that he gets less money? Yes? 0:12:15.040 --> 0:12:18.120 Where you're drafted as a rookie determines how much money 0:12:18.160 --> 0:12:18.720 you get paid. 0:12:19.040 --> 0:12:20.400 And does that mean he's not going to be able 0:12:20.440 --> 0:12:22.240 to play as often as as some of the other people? 0:12:22.400 --> 0:12:24.400 So what it what typically mean is you won't have 0:12:24.480 --> 0:12:27.840 as many opportunities as someone drafted higher. But he except 0:12:27.960 --> 0:12:30.880 he's Shador Sanders. So all it means is we can 0:12:30.920 --> 0:12:34.520 pay you less and we may have taught you a lesson. 0:12:34.559 --> 0:12:36.360 All right, let me ask you this. Do you think 0:12:36.400 --> 0:12:39.240 that this was a concerted effort by the NFL or 0:12:39.280 --> 0:12:40.719 the NFL teams. 0:12:40.400 --> 0:12:44.120 To do I think they colluded to do this absolutely. 0:12:44.960 --> 0:12:47.840 I don't think it's by chance that every team passed 0:12:47.880 --> 0:12:51.080 over the number two quarterback in the draft three or 0:12:51.120 --> 0:12:52.640 four times by chance. 0:12:53.480 --> 0:12:56.000 And you said he's number two only on some list. 0:12:56.040 --> 0:12:58.000 On the other lists, he's probably number one. Yeah. 0:12:58.080 --> 0:13:00.120 I mean he won the O'Brien Awards, given to the 0:13:00.200 --> 0:13:02.439 number one quarterback in college. But even if you think 0:13:02.480 --> 0:13:05.000 that's subjective, people voted on that and he won it. 0:13:05.760 --> 0:13:09.120 And there's a reason why him slipping was a story. 0:13:09.240 --> 0:13:11.400 If he wasn't that good, it would have made sense 0:13:11.400 --> 0:13:13.960 that he wasn't drafted high. He was very good, so 0:13:13.960 --> 0:13:16.600 people were very confused as to why teams kept passing 0:13:16.640 --> 0:13:18.160 on him. 0:13:18.320 --> 0:13:21.840 And last question, please, do you think because you know 0:13:21.880 --> 0:13:23.600 a lot of people will see two black men talking 0:13:23.640 --> 0:13:25.320 about this and we were going to say, well, there's 0:13:25.400 --> 0:13:27.880 race played a factor, do you think that there's anything 0:13:28.000 --> 0:13:30.720 besides race or culture? Will say because you said chains 0:13:30.720 --> 0:13:33.800 and things like that might have factored into his making 0:13:33.840 --> 0:13:35.680 it to one hundred and forty four? Is there anything 0:13:35.679 --> 0:13:36.640 else that we might be. 0:13:36.640 --> 0:13:39.120 Hard to argue anything else, right, because all the other 0:13:39.120 --> 0:13:42.040 things would be true for every other player every year. Right, 0:13:42.080 --> 0:13:44.920 It's not. It's the draft is a crapshoot. You don't 0:13:44.960 --> 0:13:46.360 know that the player that you pick is going to 0:13:46.400 --> 0:13:49.880 be good. We've seen number one overall picks bust. Right, 0:13:49.920 --> 0:13:52.440 But why the guy who was ranked so high went 0:13:52.520 --> 0:13:54.680 so low. It's hard to point to anything else and 0:13:54.720 --> 0:13:55.440 make it make sense. 0:13:55.920 --> 0:14:00.600 Okay, well, we'll keep watching for now to move on 0:14:00.760 --> 0:14:06.960 to our segment two opinions Shannon Sharp. So he's an 0:14:06.960 --> 0:14:09.200 athlete to a football player too. Indeed, I know this, 0:14:10.360 --> 0:14:12.360 and I'm gonna be fair. I'm going to let everyone know. 0:14:12.480 --> 0:14:17.080 I got on Shannon Sharp, like I was not like 0:14:17.200 --> 0:14:20.760 on him, Q put me on him, and I like 0:14:20.800 --> 0:14:23.040 fell in love with this guy. I thought he was 0:14:23.080 --> 0:14:26.800 like he's so southern all right, in South Georgia. Yeah, 0:14:27.240 --> 0:14:28.600 he sounds like it. And I think this guy is 0:14:28.640 --> 0:14:31.920 the greatest. And so I'm kind of coming to the 0:14:31.960 --> 0:14:34.480 Shannon Sharp table. Like in the past couple of years, right, 0:14:34.520 --> 0:14:37.080 I didn't watch him play football or anything like that. 0:14:38.320 --> 0:14:40.160 And obviously he's in some trouble, you know for those 0:14:40.200 --> 0:14:41.760 who follow the headline. So I'll share a bit bring 0:14:41.760 --> 0:14:44.400 everyone up to speed, all right, This is from CNN. 0:14:44.720 --> 0:14:48.080 Shannon Sharp has said he will temporarily take time away 0:14:48.080 --> 0:14:51.200 from his role on ESPN after being sued for assault, 0:14:51.800 --> 0:14:55.880 sexual assault, battery, and sexual battery. He denies the allegations 0:14:55.880 --> 0:14:58.960 in the lawsuit filed Sunday by an anonymous woman and 0:14:59.000 --> 0:15:02.960 her attorneys. Sharp plays a prominent part on ESPN's morning 0:15:03.120 --> 0:15:06.720 sports debate show First Take. Quote. I will be devoting 0:15:06.720 --> 0:15:09.520 this time to my family and responding and dealing with 0:15:09.560 --> 0:15:12.280 these false and disruptive allegations set against me. I planned 0:15:12.320 --> 0:15:14.240 to return to ESPN at the start of the NFL 0:15:14.280 --> 0:15:17.920 preseason unquote, Sharp said in a statement issued on Thursday. 0:15:18.480 --> 0:15:23.280 The Pro Football Hall of Famer concluded by thanking his family, fans, friends, 0:15:23.280 --> 0:15:26.440 and colleagues for their support. Following Sharp's announcement, ESPN said 0:15:26.520 --> 0:15:29.320 in a statement, quote, this is a serious situation, and 0:15:29.360 --> 0:15:34.800 we agree with Shannon's decision to step away. Quote. Sharp's 0:15:34.840 --> 0:15:39.080 legal representatives previously told CNN the lawsuit was an attempt 0:15:39.120 --> 0:15:41.880 to shake down the popular podcaster for millions of dollars, 0:15:42.200 --> 0:15:46.920 and said he categorically denies all allegations of coercion and misconduct. 0:15:47.880 --> 0:15:52.880 So here's you know, what else I know about this. 0:15:54.160 --> 0:15:56.720 I know he released some text messages. I saw the 0:15:56.800 --> 0:15:59.040 video where he says, you know, he made a statement, 0:15:59.120 --> 0:16:01.280 you know, like kind of a piece to camera statement, 0:16:02.200 --> 0:16:04.560 you know, basically saying I'm innocent of these charges. The 0:16:04.640 --> 0:16:08.280 lawyer is an ambulance chaser type of lawyer, and he 0:16:08.680 --> 0:16:11.360 tries to shake down, you know, black men for money. 0:16:13.600 --> 0:16:15.680 And so he made that statement, and he released some 0:16:15.720 --> 0:16:19.240 text messages that kind of gave you know, people some 0:16:19.400 --> 0:16:22.120 insight into the nature of his relationship with this this 0:16:22.160 --> 0:16:25.480 woman that's now accusing him of these things. I also 0:16:25.640 --> 0:16:28.640 know that there may and you can correct me if 0:16:28.640 --> 0:16:30.600 I'm wrong, if you know better, but maybe there was 0:16:30.640 --> 0:16:33.320 an attempt to settle or there was some talk or 0:16:33.360 --> 0:16:36.280 some conversation about settling with her for ten million dollars. 0:16:36.320 --> 0:16:39.920 Now it's a fifty million dollar lawsuit. So that kind 0:16:39.960 --> 0:16:46.000 of throws a wrench in how things look. And most recently, 0:16:46.200 --> 0:16:51.880 you know, there was a story about Shannon refusing to 0:16:52.560 --> 0:16:58.000 watch a video that has him in it as and 0:16:58.040 --> 0:17:01.000 it's being used as a piece of evidence from sort 0:17:01.000 --> 0:17:03.960 of the people that are suing Shannon. So Shannon was like, 0:17:04.119 --> 0:17:06.040 I'm not going to watch that video, right, I don't 0:17:06.080 --> 0:17:09.720 need to see that video. So this is about more 0:17:09.840 --> 0:17:12.240 or less what we know about the story. So I 0:17:12.240 --> 0:17:13.440 guess your thoughts, your first Q. 0:17:13.880 --> 0:17:19.639 This is a very interesting story because once accused of 0:17:19.680 --> 0:17:24.240 something like this, there is no actual right move. There's 0:17:24.240 --> 0:17:28.000 a bunch of wrong ones, but there's no actual right one. 0:17:28.240 --> 0:17:33.600 You are forever accused of rape or sexual assault. And 0:17:33.640 --> 0:17:36.480 you and I have noticed this pattern of very very 0:17:36.600 --> 0:17:39.960 very loud accusations, and then when there is an acquittal 0:17:40.640 --> 0:17:43.200 or an outright discovery that there was a lie from 0:17:43.200 --> 0:17:46.480 the beginning, a very very quiet acknowledgment of that lie, 0:17:46.880 --> 0:17:49.719 and the Jane Doe gets to slide back into anonymity, 0:17:50.200 --> 0:17:52.160 and the accused celebrity gets to be an. 0:17:52.080 --> 0:17:54.800 Accused whatever forever, forever. 0:17:55.200 --> 0:17:57.280 It is the most unfair thing ever, and it puts 0:17:57.320 --> 0:17:59.520 you in a position where, especially in cases like this 0:17:59.560 --> 0:18:03.400 where Tony Buzby is the attorney, to almost pause before 0:18:04.840 --> 0:18:08.960 believing an accuser, an accuser or a victim. Here, I 0:18:09.000 --> 0:18:11.800 feel bad for Shannon because I think the decisions that 0:18:11.880 --> 0:18:16.160 he's making help people frame him in a negative light, 0:18:17.080 --> 0:18:21.480 even if he's done nothing illegal. I intentionally didn't say 0:18:21.560 --> 0:18:26.360 done nothing wrong, because there's there's several missteps. Right, Stepping 0:18:26.400 --> 0:18:28.520 away from your job without being forced to as a 0:18:28.560 --> 0:18:32.840 mistake because you think you look bad. You look worse 0:18:32.960 --> 0:18:35.760 when you voluntarily quit your job because of the accusations 0:18:35.920 --> 0:18:38.760 right right, and now since you stepped away, we don't 0:18:38.800 --> 0:18:41.359 have to pay you, you know, make them people fire 0:18:41.400 --> 0:18:45.320 you and they owe you some money. Typically you step 0:18:45.320 --> 0:18:48.679 away and okay, good job, thank you. Yeah, we agree 0:18:48.720 --> 0:18:51.719 with Shannon that he should step away right because it 0:18:51.760 --> 0:18:56.800 is negative attention. Also, a nineteen year old OnlyFans model 0:18:56.960 --> 0:19:00.880 when you're pushing sixty is a bad idea, or even 0:19:00.920 --> 0:19:01.719 if you're just fifty. 0:19:02.000 --> 0:19:02.880 But it's illegal. 0:19:03.359 --> 0:19:06.200 Like I said, he didn't do anything illegal, but I 0:19:06.240 --> 0:19:09.000 didn't say he didn't do anything wrong. There's in the 0:19:09.080 --> 0:19:12.240 text that he shared. She's she's making it very clear 0:19:12.280 --> 0:19:14.800 this is a money thing for her, twenty five thousand 0:19:14.840 --> 0:19:20.879 dollars per such and such, and just their normal conversations 0:19:20.880 --> 0:19:25.560 and several several messages about him impregnating her. You know, 0:19:25.640 --> 0:19:28.399 the type of things that should give you some pause 0:19:29.000 --> 0:19:31.320 if you're this very famous, very wealthy man with this 0:19:31.480 --> 0:19:38.080 very young woman. So there's the level of careful that 0:19:38.160 --> 0:19:43.160 I've seen Shannon Sharp to be people know himself throughout 0:19:43.160 --> 0:19:45.640 his whole career. Like he very famously says he won't 0:19:45.640 --> 0:19:50.600 write on elevators alone with women, not because he has 0:19:50.640 --> 0:19:53.359 any desire to do anything wrong, but if someone says 0:19:53.359 --> 0:19:57.000 he did this very very large, big black man on 0:19:57.040 --> 0:19:59.119 an elevator with a woman who could feel threatened, or 0:19:59.119 --> 0:20:02.200 feel intimidated, or or just decide to shake him down. 0:20:02.800 --> 0:20:03.520 What can I do? 0:20:03.800 --> 0:20:06.240 So, I'd rather not put myself in that position. So 0:20:06.320 --> 0:20:08.880 to be a person who I heard famously say that 0:20:08.960 --> 0:20:13.880 on television multiple times, it's strange that he'd find himself 0:20:13.880 --> 0:20:16.760 in a situation like this. As far as him not 0:20:16.800 --> 0:20:19.080 wanting to watch the video, I'm guessing he was there 0:20:19.160 --> 0:20:21.399 when it was filmed and he might know how that 0:20:21.400 --> 0:20:22.120 story played out. 0:20:22.160 --> 0:20:22.320 Yeah. 0:20:22.320 --> 0:20:24.680 I didn't love that headline, but his lawyers watched it, 0:20:24.960 --> 0:20:27.119 and you don't get that from the headline. The headline 0:20:27.119 --> 0:20:28.800 makes it seem like him and his team are running 0:20:28.800 --> 0:20:32.320 away from this. No, the evidence was submitted through discovery. 0:20:32.400 --> 0:20:33.680 His legal team watched the video. 0:20:33.880 --> 0:20:34.440 He's in it. 0:20:34.760 --> 0:20:36.800 Yeah, I was in that movie. I don't need to 0:20:36.840 --> 0:20:40.200 see it, so I don't know. There's some presumed guilt 0:20:40.240 --> 0:20:43.720 in the words used in headlines, but that's intentional. I 0:20:43.760 --> 0:20:45.679 feel bad for him, though, because there's no way to 0:20:45.720 --> 0:20:50.120 prove a negative. You're saying I didn't do something. It's 0:20:50.160 --> 0:20:52.240 kind of hard to prove the thing that didn't happen. 0:20:52.800 --> 0:20:55.680 There's no evidence of the thing that didn't happen. All 0:20:55.720 --> 0:20:58.000 he has is what's being presented to things that did happen. 0:20:58.040 --> 0:20:59.600 And I think what he was doing and kind of 0:20:59.640 --> 0:21:03.760 clumbs by releasing those text messages was like, hey, everybody, look, 0:21:03.840 --> 0:21:08.520 this thing was consensual, not I didn't do it right, 0:21:08.640 --> 0:21:12.240 which again, he didn't do anything illegal. But this relationship 0:21:12.280 --> 0:21:15.720 that she's talking about in this tape, this video exists, 0:21:16.600 --> 0:21:19.000 whatever is on it. Even though you're saying there's thirty 0:21:19.040 --> 0:21:21.080 seconds edited to make him look bad, that means there's 0:21:21.119 --> 0:21:22.960 thirty seconds worth of footage that makes you look bad. 0:21:23.800 --> 0:21:26.680 So it's just all these things coming together, and it's tough, 0:21:26.920 --> 0:21:29.240 you know, and once you're under this spotlight and under 0:21:29.240 --> 0:21:32.320 this microscope, it's very, very hard to remove yourself from it. 0:21:32.960 --> 0:21:35.920 Well, So the thing about this is, and I know 0:21:35.960 --> 0:21:37.560 we're supposed to like have an opinion, but it's hard 0:21:37.560 --> 0:21:41.240