WEBVTT - Old vs. New 0:00:00.800 --> 0:00:05.760 When I right, y'all, I'm across the USC Compton Motts 0:00:06.360 --> 0:00:10.720 Bank to l A from on the California the Valley. 0:00:11.280 --> 0:00:14.320 We represent that Kelly County. So if you're keeping it 0:00:14.400 --> 0:00:17.119 reil on your side of your town, you tune into 0:00:17.200 --> 0:00:22.880 Gangster Chronicles. Chronic Goals are gonna tell you how we go. 0:00:24.040 --> 0:00:26.440 If I line my nose will girl like Pinocchio. We're 0:00:26.440 --> 0:00:28.360 gonna tell you the truth and nothing but the truth 0:00:29.120 --> 0:00:33.760 the Chronicals. This is not your average show. You're now 0:00:33.880 --> 0:00:37.199 tuned into the Rail m c A, Big James and 0:00:37.280 --> 0:00:47.360 Big Spills from the Streets. Hello, Welcome to the Gangster 0:00:47.440 --> 0:00:50.240 Chronicles podcast, the production of My Heart Radio and Black 0:00:50.280 --> 0:00:53.760 Effect Podcast Network. 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We above 0:01:22.040 --> 0:01:27.520 the surface man, and we have a lot of conversations offline, 0:01:27.840 --> 0:01:30.280 and one of the things we've been talking about lately 0:01:30.360 --> 0:01:33.480 is this generational divide and much you know, it's like 0:01:33.520 --> 0:01:36.360 the young against the old. You know, not just in 0:01:36.440 --> 0:01:38.560 hip hop music either, but you would see a resonate 0:01:38.600 --> 0:01:40.360 a little bit more in hip hop where you would 0:01:40.360 --> 0:01:43.920 get somebody like a twenty one Savage come out and say, well, Na, 0:01:44.040 --> 0:01:46.200 it's not really relevant. Like that. You have a couple 0:01:46.240 --> 0:01:49.120 other dudes and maybe in their mind, maybe to him, 0:01:49.200 --> 0:01:53.160 NAS is not relevant. M I think sometimes we're a 0:01:53.200 --> 0:01:55.600 little bit too hard on our youth and don't really 0:01:55.600 --> 0:01:59.720 listen to what they're saying. Sometimes everybody needs to stop 0:01:59.800 --> 0:02:03.120 check in everybody's pocket. That's our problem. We were involved 0:02:03.120 --> 0:02:06.280 with the next Man guy, you feel me, so yeah, 0:02:06.880 --> 0:02:09.600 you know, whether he's relevant or not, whether he's bigger 0:02:09.639 --> 0:02:13.480 than him or not, if you're doing good, congratulating Patty 0:02:13.560 --> 0:02:15.919 on the back. We don't do that, man. We don't 0:02:15.960 --> 0:02:19.680 congratulate each other. You know. Everybody want to be on 0:02:19.760 --> 0:02:24.880 the tip. They don't want nobody about them. That's us. Yeah, 0:02:25.200 --> 0:02:27.639 that's real. I guess it's always been like that. It's 0:02:27.680 --> 0:02:29.680 the old Willie Land syndrome. You know what I'm saying, 0:02:29.720 --> 0:02:32.960 young against old, you know, dark skinned against light skinned. 0:02:33.240 --> 0:02:36.200 You know what I'm saying, educated against uneducated. You know 0:02:36.320 --> 0:02:39.400 that's the that's the age old. Uh divide amongst us 0:02:39.440 --> 0:02:42.560 as a culture, as a race. Yeah, I believe it. 0:02:42.560 --> 0:02:46.280 He is not. Think it's almost inevitably whenever you have 0:02:46.760 --> 0:02:49.880 older people or younger people, this can always be a 0:02:49.880 --> 0:02:52.560 little decide for division. Because this is something that just 0:02:52.639 --> 0:02:55.360 didn't start. You know. I remember at one time the 0:02:55.440 --> 0:02:58.800 hammer Pians was in style, and my mom just couldn't 0:02:58.880 --> 0:03:01.639 understand why I had to have period of motherfucker's you 0:03:01.840 --> 0:03:03.760 know what I'm saying. She just didn't get it. But 0:03:03.800 --> 0:03:07.440 I had to have those. I had that, yeah, on 0:03:07.639 --> 0:03:12.040 multiple per and used to go to get I was 0:03:12.240 --> 0:03:14.760 fucking with. I was wearing dickies and ship back then. 0:03:15.360 --> 0:03:18.080 But you know what, But but I will say this, 0:03:18.200 --> 0:03:21.200 though there is a difference at least I'm gonna say 0:03:21.200 --> 0:03:25.359 to my generation, I'm generation x UM. I believe James 0:03:25.919 --> 0:03:29.960 and you y'all might be baby boomers, like almost to 0:03:30.040 --> 0:03:34.720 my generation, I'm not a baby bro don't put that down. 0:03:35.480 --> 0:03:37.880 I don't know. I'm not no baby boomer. Let me see, 0:03:37.920 --> 0:03:40.720 I'll tell you what I am. But because jen jen 0:03:41.000 --> 0:03:45.520 X starts at what let me see I think right now, 0:03:46.120 --> 0:03:48.160 you know what I might be thinking? Malent? Yeah, because 0:03:48.200 --> 0:03:50.440 gen X is up to nineteen eighties, so it might 0:03:50.480 --> 0:03:54.440 be sixty five to eighty or something like that. Right, 0:03:57.480 --> 0:04:01.760 probably we us this crap Americas between born betwe when 0:04:02.120 --> 0:04:05.800 next to bro? Okay? All right, so yeah, so y'all 0:04:05.800 --> 0:04:09.640 both generation next I think James might be. But regardless, 0:04:09.800 --> 0:04:13.920 our generation, we um man we we man. We we 0:04:14.000 --> 0:04:17.240 worshiped our O G s. And especially with music, think 0:04:17.240 --> 0:04:19.560 about us doing music in the eighties and the nineties. 0:04:19.560 --> 0:04:22.960 We sampled all their records. We we name dropped them, 0:04:23.279 --> 0:04:24.960 you know what I'm saying. If we met him, we 0:04:25.000 --> 0:04:27.839 was fans, you know what I mean, Like we really 0:04:27.920 --> 0:04:30.200 we really respected the ones that came before us. But 0:04:30.279 --> 0:04:33.640 now it's a different culture. These young niggas they think 0:04:33.680 --> 0:04:37.440 that everything started with them. They think that everything before 0:04:37.520 --> 0:04:40.760 them is obsolete. It's old. It don't means ship, it 0:04:40.760 --> 0:04:43.480 ain't ship. And I don't know where that came from, 0:04:43.520 --> 0:04:46.880 because my generation wasn't like that. Like we love George 0:04:46.920 --> 0:04:50.000 Clinton and Funkadelic and you know, even me growing up 0:04:50.040 --> 0:04:54.000 on Ghetto Boys and and in the West Coast Cuban 0:04:54.160 --> 0:04:56.440 w even the East Coast Cats, you know what I mean, 0:04:56.560 --> 0:04:58.599 Big Daddy Kane and all them them niggas was like 0:04:58.680 --> 0:05:01.440 gods to us. We read did their songs and everything. 0:05:01.839 --> 0:05:06.960 So certainly revered, yeah, revered absolutely, But now it's like, 0:05:07.240 --> 0:05:10.440 you know, when when the conversation has had, you know, 0:05:10.600 --> 0:05:14.280 it's in a more of a a pejorative, you know 0:05:14.360 --> 0:05:17.320 type fashion where it's always negative. All them niggas ain't 0:05:17.320 --> 0:05:19.479 eating them niggas ain't gotten nothing. Them niggas is old, 0:05:19.600 --> 0:05:23.200 but they don't realize that one day ship especially in 0:05:23.320 --> 0:05:26.120 rap years. You oh, by the time you're thirty, you 0:05:26.160 --> 0:05:29.160 know what I'm saying. So you niggas do know that 0:05:29.240 --> 0:05:31.359 you're going to get older one day and you're gonna 0:05:31.400 --> 0:05:34.000 want people to respect what you accomplishing, what you brought 0:05:34.000 --> 0:05:36.840 to the table. So I don't know, bro, You know, 0:05:36.920 --> 0:05:39.200 they used to bother me at one time, court, but 0:05:39.320 --> 0:05:42.400 I think as you get older, you get more mature. Yeah, 0:05:42.400 --> 0:05:44.120 And I kind of just let up in these junctures 0:05:44.120 --> 0:05:47.320 and I just tell them keep on living, absolutely, keep 0:05:47.320 --> 0:05:50.400 on living, you know, unless and then that's the thing too. Man. 0:05:50.480 --> 0:05:53.039 I just think that it's almost sad when you look 0:05:53.080 --> 0:05:57.040 at It's almost like we are preconfisient to believe that 0:05:57.080 --> 0:05:59.040 once you hit the age of thirty is a black 0:05:59.080 --> 0:06:01.840 man you old C've been called me what's up? Oc? 0:06:02.000 --> 0:06:04.800 Since I was thirty years old? Bro, that's crazy. And 0:06:04.920 --> 0:06:11.039 thirty is young. Thirty young, so super young, you know, thirty, Yeah, 0:06:11.120 --> 0:06:14.440 for sure. And I believe that these kids, James, they're 0:06:14.480 --> 0:06:17.560 just automatically embedded to where they're gonna die by a 0:06:17.560 --> 0:06:20.520 certain age. I think they are. I think they're just 0:06:20.640 --> 0:06:25.080 going to be just anticipated deaf. I mean, what do 0:06:25.080 --> 0:06:27.760 you think? What what you go ahead? Jack? I think 0:06:27.880 --> 0:06:31.000 I think were down at the early age when I 0:06:31.040 --> 0:06:34.839 was coming up because I've lost a lot of a 0:06:34.880 --> 0:06:40.919 lot of friends. Uh and the early part of eighties, 0:06:40.960 --> 0:06:43.640 mid eighties, a lot of people was getting killed. We 0:06:43.720 --> 0:06:47.359 lost a lot of people all over. So, you know, 0:06:48.600 --> 0:06:52.200 I said it once before, history just repeats itself with 0:06:52.400 --> 0:06:57.240 us looking at our big homies, then our little homies 0:06:57.360 --> 0:07:02.160 looking at us, and now the respect level is just 0:07:02.800 --> 0:07:06.520 played out, you know what I'm saying, And every every 0:07:06.560 --> 0:07:11.080 generation gets worse and worser because look at look at 0:07:11.080 --> 0:07:16.120 my generation, I'm older, not around, and look at the 0:07:16.160 --> 0:07:21.120 cats that's there now, they bear now because the US 0:07:21.240 --> 0:07:27.480 is gone and the younger cats are not respecting those guys. 0:07:27.520 --> 0:07:31.840 So with them saying that their generation, the next generation 0:07:31.920 --> 0:07:34.560 under there is coming, is growing up and they're not 0:07:34.640 --> 0:07:39.800 respecting them. So every year, every generation that changed, and 0:07:39.840 --> 0:07:42.400 it's getting worse and worser, and it's going to be 0:07:42.440 --> 0:07:46.239 a point where just all watered down to a point 0:07:46.240 --> 0:07:50.160 where there's I mean, we just don't care no more, 0:07:50.880 --> 0:07:54.160 you know what I'm saying. And and we gotta stop 0:07:54.200 --> 0:07:58.840 blaming everybody else and start blaming ourselves to a certain extent, 0:07:59.240 --> 0:08:04.960 because if if if somebody, if if us, look at 0:08:05.000 --> 0:08:11.280 look how they speak on um, the Muslims, how they 0:08:11.280 --> 0:08:15.200 are with each other, that's how we should be in 0:08:15.320 --> 0:08:18.600 general period. We should need that way. But we're not, 0:08:19.560 --> 0:08:22.360 you know what I'm saying, because we got we got 0:08:23.040 --> 0:08:28.200 older cats such as my age still participating and feeding 0:08:28.840 --> 0:08:32.760 the bs. We we got the rap music is when 0:08:33.320 --> 0:08:38.240 way off the off the charts with the disrespect, you 0:08:38.280 --> 0:08:43.200 know what I'm saying. So you see social media, how 0:08:43.360 --> 0:08:46.120 everybody is going at each other. You see grown men 0:08:47.000 --> 0:08:52.840 sitting here arguing, talking like women like like, going back 0:08:52.880 --> 0:08:57.439 and forth. So we're not we're not teaching our our 0:08:57.559 --> 0:09:00.760 kids kids to what they should see. You know what 0:09:00.840 --> 0:09:04.560 I'm saying. Our young women is watching loving hip hop 0:09:04.679 --> 0:09:07.280 and that's all you see is black strong women fighting. 0:09:08.080 --> 0:09:10.319 So it don't matter if you're rich or not. This 0:09:10.400 --> 0:09:15.079 is what it's about or if you make it. How 0:09:15.120 --> 0:09:18.240 can I be a millionaire and hating them? The next 0:09:18.280 --> 0:09:21.920 cat coming up, the next brother, you know, climbing the ladder, 0:09:22.720 --> 0:09:26.959 And that's what we see today are the people that 0:09:27.080 --> 0:09:31.120 should be in position to change and doing it. They're 0:09:31.160 --> 0:09:35.480 promoting well, right, James, And that's what I was going 0:09:35.520 --> 0:09:39.000 to say. You know, I listened to these young kids, right, 0:09:39.280 --> 0:09:41.160 and I really pay attention to them. I'm making my 0:09:41.200 --> 0:09:44.080 business to know what they got on their mind, right, 0:09:44.800 --> 0:09:48.560 So I don't think we're really giving them a lot 0:09:48.600 --> 0:09:51.199 of I don't think we're given them monks to really 0:09:51.600 --> 0:09:56.080 look up to, because, like James said, the biggest clowns 0:09:56.120 --> 0:09:59.240 online are guys that are over the age of forty five. 0:09:59.600 --> 0:10:02.040 Let let that just process a little bit. And there's 0:10:02.360 --> 0:10:04.960 people you don't see no Mexicans on there like that. 0:10:05.040 --> 0:10:07.319 You don't see people on there like that. You don't 0:10:07.360 --> 0:10:10.480 see no white folks on there like that. It's always us. 0:10:10.760 --> 0:10:12.560 You see a bunch of dudes that look like there's 0:10:12.600 --> 0:10:16.000 somebody's grandfather, and these cats all older than me, and 0:10:16.040 --> 0:10:18.280 I'm looking at them like, Wow, you're all really up 0:10:18.320 --> 0:10:22.200 there playing your stuff like that right now? Yeah, it's 0:10:22.200 --> 0:10:24.240 like for them, CPM has got some of these dudes 0:10:24.280 --> 0:10:29.360 are here really just and you can it about it still. 0:10:29.480 --> 0:10:31.400 You know, like, I know a lot of these niggas 0:10:31.400 --> 0:10:35.200 ain't eating like that because the content it's so vitriolic, 0:10:35.320 --> 0:10:37.520 it's so you know what I'm saying, acrimonious. You know, 0:10:37.960 --> 0:10:40.320 they're not getting ads like that. You know, they ship 0:10:40.440 --> 0:10:43.079 getting nan and everything, so they're not even really eating 0:10:43.120 --> 0:10:45.960 like that. But you know, I really don't know what 0:10:46.040 --> 0:10:49.000 that's related to, Bro, because you're right, I don't even 0:10:49.000 --> 0:10:52.480 see the younger generation in terms of using social media 0:10:52.559 --> 0:10:55.120 to down each other and clown each other and try 0:10:55.160 --> 0:10:58.200 to find dirt. That's some old beauty shop ship. Like 0:10:58.400 --> 0:11:01.800 I can't participate in that. That's ship. Sound like that's 0:11:01.800 --> 0:11:06.160 why me personally, Bro, I've never watched reality shows. You know, 0:11:06.320 --> 0:11:09.120 I don't look at gossip sites because to me, that 0:11:09.240 --> 0:11:13.280 ship feels feminine. It feels feminine to be talking about 0:11:13.480 --> 0:11:16.200 what Nigga is sleeping with who and how much money 0:11:16.200 --> 0:11:19.480 and Nigga got, you know, and looking at my mind 0:11:19.520 --> 0:11:22.520 don't work like that. But it's almost like social media. 0:11:23.200 --> 0:11:25.600 It's a gift and a curse, you know what I'm saying. 0:11:25.600 --> 0:11:27.840 It's a gift and a curse. Like social media is 0:11:27.880 --> 0:11:31.160 creating some monsters, you know what I mean, And it's 0:11:31.200 --> 0:11:34.319 giving motherfucker's egos that they don't have in real life, 0:11:34.600 --> 0:11:37.319 you know what I mean. Motherfucker get online and just 0:11:37.400 --> 0:11:40.040 turn into anybody they want to be. Nigga could be 0:11:40.080 --> 0:11:43.559 a stepper. Nigga's trying to recreate history on social media 0:11:43.600 --> 0:11:45.360 because you're lying to a bunch of people that know 0:11:45.520 --> 0:11:48.800 don't know you. You know. It's supposed to be entertainment, 0:11:48.840 --> 0:11:50.800 but that's but that's us though. I mean, let's call 0:11:50.840 --> 0:11:53.040 it what it is. Man As Niggas being niggas. Niggas 0:11:53.040 --> 0:11:56.040 will funk up anything and misuse anything. You know what 0:11:56.080 --> 0:12:01.840 I'm saying. Um, manniggas will do niggas ship niggas and 0:12:01.840 --> 0:12:04.280 flies bro niggas can't stay out of ship for ship. 0:12:04.360 --> 0:12:08.640 So at some point accountability, man, just with how we 0:12:08.720 --> 0:12:11.200 do each other, you know what I mean? Like all 0:12:11.240 --> 0:12:13.800 this ship is crazy. Still I think about it often, 0:12:13.840 --> 0:12:16.000 and I always think about solutions. I don't want to 0:12:16.000 --> 0:12:19.800 be a person that's always so hypercritical but but can't 0:12:19.840 --> 0:12:23.200 offer a solution, you know what I mean exactly, you know, 0:12:23.320 --> 0:12:26.720 And that's why I didn't want to. Just my intent 0:12:26.920 --> 0:12:29.040 is never to come in and go off on the youngsters. 0:12:29.400 --> 0:12:32.800 How about that type, because like from the music they make, 0:12:32.800 --> 0:12:35.160 they're making stuff for them. I shouldn't like they music 0:12:35.360 --> 0:12:39.880 with I mess with what they're doing. And I'm like, man, 0:12:39.920 --> 0:12:42.160 you know, because I'm like listening, what's new, what's coming 0:12:42.200 --> 0:12:45.280 up next? Especially when you're a person that's so called 0:12:45.320 --> 0:12:47.440 love hip hop? You know, I don't have my legs 0:12:47.440 --> 0:12:50.280 in my hip hop. I like, you know, I'm here 0:12:50.320 --> 0:12:53.040 to the Playboy CARDI Kat. I like him. I like 0:12:53.120 --> 0:12:58.040 it's some NBA young boy stuff. I'm hip top Kevin Love, 0:12:58.160 --> 0:13:01.640 Kevin Gates. I'm a big Kevin Days fans. It was well, Um, 0:13:01.880 --> 0:13:04.360 I just think, man, we're not giving these guys much 0:13:04.440 --> 0:13:06.120 to go off. But then I'm gonna go back to 0:13:06.200 --> 0:13:09.960 something right, mm hmm. You know one thing I do 0:13:10.120 --> 0:13:13.960 respect about the New York Cats. You would never hear 0:13:14.040 --> 0:13:16.320 nothing the come up their mom to talk bad about 0:13:16.400 --> 0:13:19.920 Big Daddy, came to talk bad about cool she wrapped. 0:13:19.960 --> 0:13:23.960 They just won't do it. They revered their people. Roll 0:13:26.160 --> 0:13:31.480 me land on something real quick, especially with rock and roll, right, yes, 0:13:32.440 --> 0:13:35.080 especially with rock and roll. Mick Jagger and the Rolling Stones. 0:13:35.240 --> 0:13:37.360 They and they setings out there still getting it. And 0:13:37.440 --> 0:13:39.920 guess what, you can hear every young rock and roll 0:13:40.000 --> 0:13:41.880 person give it up to them. They're gonna say, I 0:13:41.960 --> 0:13:44.000 look up to them, my love him, And when you 0:13:44.000 --> 0:13:46.120 go to their conscience, you will see young people there too. 0:13:46.280 --> 0:13:50.640 Now go ahead say you say, like, my apologies, I 0:13:50.640 --> 0:13:52.800 didn't mean to interrupt you, But what I was gonna 0:13:52.840 --> 0:13:56.800 say is I agree with that to an extent, because 0:13:56.880 --> 0:13:59.800 from what I can see from my vantage point that 0:14:00.120 --> 0:14:02.160 the thing bro, these young niggas don't want to know 0:14:02.200 --> 0:14:04.600 their history. They don't say nothing about them because they 0:14:04.640 --> 0:14:06.640 don't know about it. They don't know who they are. 0:14:06.920 --> 0:14:09.160 Because because you gotta think about it, it's some of 0:14:09.360 --> 0:14:11.679 some of our my generation get mad at at young 0:14:11.760 --> 0:14:14.240 niggas because they don't know Tupac. They don't know Biggie. 0:14:14.559 --> 0:14:16.760 But respectfully, you have to understand a lot of these 0:14:16.840 --> 0:14:19.880 niggas was born after Tupac was dead and Biggie was dead, 0:14:20.280 --> 0:14:23.360 you know, So to them, young thug is they o 0:14:23.560 --> 0:14:25.640 g you know what I mean, Like niggas like that, 0:14:25.760 --> 0:14:29.080 So they're not like how we were, you know, like me, 0:14:29.640 --> 0:14:33.800 I listened to VARs and confunction. I like the old 0:14:33.840 --> 0:14:35.800 ship that was before me, you know what I'm saying, 0:14:35.880 --> 0:14:39.520 Like I was interested in that. But now with technology, 0:14:39.880 --> 0:14:42.440 you know, they just feel like everything is now, it's 0:14:42.440 --> 0:14:45.640 so instant, so there's really no appreciation for history. So 0:14:46.240 --> 0:14:48.640 some of why you don't hear them niggas talking about 0:14:48.680 --> 0:14:50.520 them because they just don't know who they are. Ask 0:14:50.600 --> 0:14:53.720 a young nigga from New York, Kudi Rabbit. You know 0:14:53.720 --> 0:14:55.560 what I'm saying, a lot of them, A lot of 0:14:55.560 --> 0:14:58.760 them don't know, Bro, They really don't know. And and 0:15:00.000 --> 0:15:03.680 so I can't get mad at them necessarily, right, I 0:15:03.720 --> 0:15:08.800 can't get mad. But me to me, if you're an artist, right, 0:15:09.280 --> 0:15:12.000 you're gonna go back and study Van Going all those people, right, 0:15:12.640 --> 0:15:15.240 you would think you would think you would go back 0:15:15.240 --> 0:15:18.760 and study Van Go. I knew, I would. I knew, 0:15:18.840 --> 0:15:21.480 I would you feel what I'm saying, I knew, I knew. Like, man, 0:15:21.560 --> 0:15:23.880 it ain't nothing about hip hop that you can't ask 0:15:23.960 --> 0:15:26.120 me that I don't know. And see, this ain't so 0:15:26.200 --> 0:15:28.760 much about hip hop right now, man, this is just 0:15:28.880 --> 0:15:31.840 about just life in general. If you asked you, if 0:15:31.840 --> 0:15:35.640 you ask a younger cat today, who um Jesse Jackson Neils, 0:15:36.440 --> 0:15:39.760 who Jesse Jackson was, who Martin Luther King was? Outside 0:15:39.800 --> 0:15:42.160 of them too, they probably can't tell you nothing about 0:15:42.200 --> 0:15:46.280 no shape but very or nothing like somebody because they 0:15:46.280 --> 0:15:49.000 don't know, don't They barely knew about them too, and 0:15:49.280 --> 0:15:51.280 them they don't really give a funk. You know, I'm 0:15:51.280 --> 0:15:54.120 gonna tell you something that really triped me out. I 0:15:54.160 --> 0:15:55.880 was talking to my daughter one day. You know, we 0:15:56.000 --> 0:15:57.600 just right and he now we with our kids, we 0:15:57.640 --> 0:16:01.600 always trying to make small talk, right. I was telling her, like, hey, 0:16:01.720 --> 0:16:04.640 you know, just the soldiers and what comes are really 0:16:04.640 --> 0:16:07.280 based on a really a female army that was really 0:16:07.320 --> 0:16:09.560 strong in Africa and they fall off the French for 0:16:09.680 --> 0:16:12.560 like four the years. She said, Dad, I don't really 0:16:12.560 --> 0:16:17.040 care all that. Why just like that, like I don't 0:16:17.120 --> 0:16:19.360 like why like why do I care, like I don't care, 0:16:19.680 --> 0:16:23.000 and I thought that would be interesting. Yeah, but yeah, 0:16:23.320 --> 0:16:25.280 she said, Man, I ain't dripping off of that stuff. 0:16:25.320 --> 0:16:27.960 That episode wasn't wn't running around e jungle fighting, and 0:16:28.000 --> 0:16:31.040 I was like, damn, you don't care. So so dig 0:16:31.080 --> 0:16:34.160 is still so even with that statement though, that's the 0:16:34.200 --> 0:16:37.320 difference in generation. We couldn't even fix our mouth to 0:16:37.360 --> 0:16:40.440 say that ship. Back then, we just acted like we 0:16:40.480 --> 0:16:42.640 gave a funk, you know, even though we like, I 0:16:42.680 --> 0:16:45.040 don't care about this ship. It was oh yes, ma'am, 0:16:45.280 --> 0:16:47.600 you know what I'm saying. Oh for real, you know 0:16:47.760 --> 0:16:50.040 you you couldn't even fix your mouth to even act 0:16:50.080 --> 0:16:52.600 like you didn't care, you know. So that just that's 0:16:52.680 --> 0:16:55.440 the you know the difference with this generation, bro, you 0:16:55.480 --> 0:16:58.520 know what I mean, Like they don't really uh, you know, 0:16:58.640 --> 0:17:01.640 respect a whole lot or or or I don't know. 0:17:01.800 --> 0:17:04.879 I think it's technology, bro, I think technology is really 0:17:04.880 --> 0:17:07.040 what funk this ship up, to be honest with you, 0:17:07.160 --> 0:17:10.119 because I've even talked to youngsters and my kids, and 0:17:10.160 --> 0:17:13.080 they do they think because they have access to YouTube 0:17:13.080 --> 0:17:16.360 and Google, they feel like, oh, the information is right there, 0:17:16.359 --> 0:17:18.879 not understanding that some of the ship you land on 0:17:19.560 --> 0:17:22.320 was written by motherfucker's. That hell, they don't know what 0:17:22.359 --> 0:17:24.840 the hell they talk about. It's just they you know, 0:17:24.880 --> 0:17:27.159 it's just their opinion. So you know, you could be 0:17:27.200 --> 0:17:30.359 subscribing and taking on some ship by motherfucker. This as 0:17:30.400 --> 0:17:32.359 dumb as you, but because you looked it up and 0:17:32.400 --> 0:17:34.560 they got a website, you take it as law. But 0:17:34.680 --> 0:17:37.439 you know, but you know how they say, man, the 0:17:37.480 --> 0:17:40.160 Bible say it, bro profit is not respected in his home? 0:17:40.240 --> 0:17:42.159 You know, he ever noticed how we can say some 0:17:42.200 --> 0:17:44.800 ship to our kids and the going one year after 0:17:44.880 --> 0:17:49.479 other niga say something to him. It's like it became 0:17:50.359 --> 0:17:54.280 all the time. It's like and I'm telling them, like, 0:17:55.200 --> 0:17:57.120 there's no money in this world. Is going to give 0:17:57.119 --> 0:17:59.640 a funk about you? Like I give a funk about you? Right, 0:18:00.000 --> 0:18:01.880 But you would rather going to listen to these other 0:18:01.920 --> 0:18:04.400 motherfucker's than me telling you something. And it's like it's long. 0:18:04.520 --> 0:18:07.280 Somebody tell she was right, and they treat me all 0:18:07.400 --> 0:18:11.560 you for real, boy, what a revelation. I was actually right. 0:18:11.600 --> 0:18:14.400 I actually know what the funk I'm talking about them. Hey, 0:18:14.480 --> 0:18:17.440 sometimes you know you gotta let life kick these these 0:18:17.480 --> 0:18:19.240 youngsters in the ash. You know what I'm saying, because 0:18:19.240 --> 0:18:22.200 nothing gonna hit harder than life, nothing's gonna talk louder 0:18:22.200 --> 0:18:25.160 than experience, you know what I'm saying. But like back 0:18:25.200 --> 0:18:30.119 to the generational divide though, um, you know, I don't know. 0:18:30.200 --> 0:18:32.479 I mean, let me ask you, big Jake, do you 0:18:32.520 --> 0:18:35.760 think that we Do you think we failed? Do you 0:18:35.800 --> 0:18:39.720 think we failed them? Do you think your generation failed us? 0:18:39.800 --> 0:18:43.600 My generation and in essence ship we felt the youngsters. Now. 0:18:44.680 --> 0:18:48.720 I to be honest, I think every generation failed each 0:18:48.720 --> 0:18:54.040 other because the generation before me, that's say they failed me. 0:18:55.040 --> 0:18:58.639 I had the homies, I had people that rooted me 0:18:58.720 --> 0:19:02.920 on with I get down, and a lot of people 0:19:03.000 --> 0:19:06.400 praising to get down, opposed to man, cut this ship out. 0:19:06.480 --> 0:19:08.359 Go to school, man, what you're doing hanging out in 0:19:08.400 --> 0:19:11.639 the hallway, Go get in class. So I think we 0:19:11.640 --> 0:19:16.720 we all let each other down because we'll be we'll 0:19:16.760 --> 0:19:19.840 be HYPOCRISTI I we sit up here and say, it's 0:19:20.080 --> 0:19:24.080 this generation, PAULM. We as black man, has been sucking 0:19:24.160 --> 0:19:26.760 up from the beginning, you know what I'm saying, And 0:19:26.840 --> 0:19:30.119 we still haven't caught on to where we're supposed to 0:19:30.160 --> 0:19:33.960 go and where we should be. So we all we 0:19:33.960 --> 0:19:37.640 we all dropped the ball and and the cold part 0:19:37.680 --> 0:19:40.680 about it is is you only have a handful of 0:19:41.240 --> 0:19:46.119 black men, strong black men trying to uplift these young cats, 0:19:46.480 --> 0:19:48.359 trying to teach them and show them. You got a 0:19:48.400 --> 0:19:52.560 lot of guys on some of their platforms teaching kids. 0:19:53.640 --> 0:19:57.840 I believe we we we can be a double as sword. 0:19:58.080 --> 0:20:01.119 We can't say I'm praising the kids, I'm helping the kids. 0:20:01.119 --> 0:20:04.480 I'm an activist. But you out here on some other 0:20:05.240 --> 0:20:10.240 whole different ship, disrespecting black women and the whole line. So, yeah, bro, 0:20:10.840 --> 0:20:14.399 we we have leedy. We have let ourselves down for 0:20:14.440 --> 0:20:18.199 a long time. Nobody really came with a solution to 0:20:18.240 --> 0:20:21.520 say how we can fix us. And if we don't 0:20:21.520 --> 0:20:29.200 do that, I guarantee you two thousand and we're gonna 0:20:29.200 --> 0:20:32.120 be lost. It ain't gonna matter if a black man 0:20:32.200 --> 0:20:36.880 got money, it ain't gonna matter because we're gonna try 0:20:36.880 --> 0:20:39.080 to get what that black man got. We ain't gonna 0:20:39.080 --> 0:20:41.520 try to go rib the white man. We're gonna rob 0:20:41.600 --> 0:20:44.679 each other because we think that's the safe place to 0:20:44.800 --> 0:20:48.440 do it. We were better off doing our doing ourselves, 0:20:49.400 --> 0:20:52.080 you know what I'm saying. So if we don't kill 0:20:52.119 --> 0:20:57.600 each other off by it's over. Bro. If if these 0:20:57.640 --> 0:21:03.040 guys that got these platforms, these men that that's around 0:21:03.040 --> 0:21:06.840 a lot of kids, these coaches and everybody else don't 0:21:06.880 --> 0:21:09.800 step their game up us if we don't step our 0:21:09.880 --> 0:21:14.920 game up and and really for mode saving kids we 0:21:15.080 --> 0:21:19.480 asked out and that's playing an uncut Yeah. So yeah, 0:21:19.920 --> 0:21:22.960 we gotta step letting each other down, brother, you know. 0:21:23.800 --> 0:21:27.240 And a big part of that too is, um, we 0:21:27.359 --> 0:21:31.160 don't do things to be genuine no more. Everybody always 0:21:31.160 --> 0:21:33.639 has an ankle. Nobody just goes out their way to 0:21:33.680 --> 0:21:35.399 do stuff for the community. Because I remember when I 0:21:35.480 --> 0:21:39.080 ran my youth football program. I actually spent a lot 0:21:39.080 --> 0:21:40.840 of my own money. I had a bunch of kids 0:21:40.880 --> 0:21:43.080 playing in the program that was there for free. But 0:21:43.119 --> 0:21:45.240 I knew I couldn't just kick them dudes in the street. 0:21:45.280 --> 0:21:47.679 They come up, they want to play football. There was 0:21:47.760 --> 0:21:49.600 always like, okay, let me try to figure out a 0:21:49.640 --> 0:21:53.160 way that these dudes can play. You know, one year, 0:21:53.280 --> 0:21:55.080 my man top Dog, you know, shout out to my 0:21:55.119 --> 0:21:58.159 boy top with t V. He gave some money towards 0:21:58.160 --> 0:21:59.840 you know, the look he is playing one year, which 0:21:59.880 --> 0:22:02.600 was real cool. You know what I'm saying. What's real cool? 0:22:02.600 --> 0:22:04.560 When I reached out to him for that he made happen. 0:22:04.640 --> 0:22:08.520 But we don't have people out there. The guys that 0:22:08.520 --> 0:22:11.159 are really out there man, trying to actually be something 0:22:11.200 --> 0:22:13.360 to the youth are few and far between. That would 0:22:13.400 --> 0:22:15.679 always have to be some form for a lot of 0:22:15.720 --> 0:22:18.399 cats out there. Them getting the trophy. I'll tell him, 0:22:18.440 --> 0:22:20.800 I saying, man, y'all here every year, go through all 0:22:20.800 --> 0:22:23.520 this stuff just to get this little fifty dollar trophy 0:22:23.520 --> 0:22:25.560 at the MT year to say, y'all want the super Bowl, 0:22:25.600 --> 0:22:27.679 like y'all the ability check or something. They want to 0:22:27.720 --> 0:22:30.760 be competitive, They want to be they want to be 0:22:30.800 --> 0:22:35.560 relevant themselves, and not thinking that it's for the kids. 0:22:36.160 --> 0:22:39.720 You know, when you see these kids playing football at school, 0:22:40.440 --> 0:22:43.560 the parents is in the beach. You're fighting. Come on, 0:22:44.240 --> 0:22:47.520 what are we what are we teaching them? We're showing 0:22:47.600 --> 0:22:51.439 them something totally different. And and I can honestly say this, 0:22:52.040 --> 0:22:55.400 I lived that ship. I know what what different is 0:22:55.480 --> 0:22:59.240 opposed to living? Right, you know what I'm saying or 0:23:00.440 --> 0:23:04.080 from what I've seen it, don't intention to buy my situation. 0:23:04.359 --> 0:23:06.760 This is what I want to be. We gotta take 0:23:06.840 --> 0:23:10.280 that mind frame from our kids. You don't want to 0:23:10.320 --> 0:23:13.800 be like that, right, I tell everybody you don't want 0:23:13.840 --> 0:23:16.520 to be like a mob James. You don't want to 0:23:16.560 --> 0:23:20.199 be like, uh, a twokey. You don't want to be 0:23:20.280 --> 0:23:24.239 like those those guys, you know what I'm saying. You know, 0:23:24.320 --> 0:23:28.120 they did something for the for our game culture. Those 0:23:28.119 --> 0:23:31.920 guys were somebody in our gang culture. But let's teach 0:23:31.960 --> 0:23:34.600 our kids how to live, you know what I'm saying 0:23:35.240 --> 0:23:37.760 in a real kind of way. So we know that 0:23:37.960 --> 0:23:40.359 us as as black people, we're not a monolist and 0:23:40.400 --> 0:23:42.800 I think that, you know, just like the music, I 0:23:42.840 --> 0:23:45.919 think it lacks balance, you know what I'm saying. Um, 0:23:45.960 --> 0:23:48.400 But as it comes to like what what what Jay 0:23:48.440 --> 0:23:51.000 is saying, there are people out there that are doing 0:23:51.160 --> 0:23:53.520 great things and positive things, you know what I'm saying, 0:23:53.560 --> 0:23:56.639 But for whatever reason, the media that's not appealing to 0:23:56.720 --> 0:23:58.840 the masses. They don't want to see that. You know, 0:23:58.880 --> 0:24:01.639 the media don't push that because I think that people 0:24:01.680 --> 0:24:05.480 are followers by nature, people as sheep right. So imagine 0:24:05.600 --> 0:24:09.440 if the young rappers and the people that that had influence. 0:24:09.520 --> 0:24:12.479 Imagine if they were talking positive. Imagine if the rappers 0:24:12.440 --> 0:24:15.159 started rapping about ship that they wanted to see. We 0:24:15.240 --> 0:24:16.879 all know how it is in the hood. We know 0:24:16.920 --> 0:24:18.719 it's fucked up. We know what that life is like. 0:24:18.840 --> 0:24:21.520 But now let's talk about if you change that narrative 0:24:21.520 --> 0:24:23.480 talking about you want to see niggas win, you want 0:24:23.520 --> 0:24:27.040 to live, you know, instead of that's drill and let's 0:24:27.160 --> 0:24:30.119 let's kill. Let's step man, let's live, let's get to 0:24:30.200 --> 0:24:32.240 some money, let's raise our kids. That ship could still 0:24:32.240 --> 0:24:35.680 sound dope, right, So niggas gotta make the positive ship. 0:24:36.240 --> 0:24:38.600 I mean, it's it's that easy, the same way we 0:24:38.640 --> 0:24:40.639 came up with the negative ship. Think about it. It 0:24:40.960 --> 0:24:44.800 went from the sixties seventies disco. Remember, everything was about love. 0:24:44.880 --> 0:24:47.639 Everything was about court and abroad and getting some you 0:24:47.680 --> 0:24:49.679 know what I'm saying, getting some love and some masks 0:24:49.720 --> 0:24:51.440 and you know, hey, sexy, I don't want to take 0:24:51.440 --> 0:24:52.920 you out and all of that. Then it just went 0:24:52.960 --> 0:24:55.879 to funk a bit, don't with my niggas all day. Well, 0:24:55.920 --> 0:24:58.960 you know, one thing I remember, man, that my of 0:24:59.000 --> 0:25:01.800 me coming up is that the men I did have 0:25:01.880 --> 0:25:05.520 in my life were always men like. And I thought 0:25:05.560 --> 0:25:07.359 about that one day. I said, well, maybe we didn't 0:25:07.400 --> 0:25:09.960 have social media. Fact, then maybe it was it's always 0:25:10.000 --> 0:25:12.360 been a bunch of dumb ass old niggas. But then 0:25:12.400 --> 0:25:14.840 I thought about it, but then I thought about it. 0:25:14.960 --> 0:25:17.359 I have never meant nobody to act like these dudes. 0:25:17.720 --> 0:25:20.200 Have you, James, think about think about think I think 0:25:20.240 --> 0:25:25.399 about it. Have you ever been a foolish as old man? Yeah, yeah, 0:25:25.440 --> 0:25:28.320 I have to. I have to. But the difference was 0:25:28.880 --> 0:25:31.680 is it's almost like the junkie ship we was talking 0:25:31.720 --> 0:25:34.119 about right back in the day, if a nigga played 0:25:34.119 --> 0:25:36.119 with his nose and did some ship, he knew uncool. 0:25:36.160 --> 0:25:38.480 He kept it a secret, he didn't broadcast it. Right. 0:25:38.760 --> 0:25:41.280 So even back in the day, you had niggas in 0:25:41.359 --> 0:25:44.359 the church, you had you know, niggas with whole families 0:25:44.560 --> 0:25:49.280 that had other families across town. But they carried themselves 0:25:49.359 --> 0:25:55.640 with a certain coup, you know what I'm saying. That's 0:25:55.640 --> 0:25:58.280 what I'm saying. So I'm not saying that they are 0:25:58.440 --> 0:26:01.439 you know, above, you know, are infallible. They you know, 0:26:01.480 --> 0:26:03.840 they was bullshit. Had been around since since the beginning 0:26:03.880 --> 0:26:06.600 of the time. You know, motherfucker's has always been on bullshit. 0:26:06.840 --> 0:26:08.760 But it's like back in the day, like even when 0:26:08.800 --> 0:26:11.120 the nigger went to the pin. When I was growing up, 0:26:11.359 --> 0:26:13.440 if an uncle went to the pin, they just said 0:26:13.440 --> 0:26:15.840 he went down south with other family. You know what 0:26:15.880 --> 0:26:18.800 I'm saying. It wasn't a thing like oh yeah ship 0:26:18.840 --> 0:26:20.960 you know hor me sitting down, whoo whoo whoa Because 0:26:20.960 --> 0:26:23.120 think about it, we celebrate when the nigga come home 0:26:23.160 --> 0:26:26.359 after doing ten more than we do when a person 0:26:26.400 --> 0:26:33.560 graduated college college, that's what I chelled. My grandson where 0:26:33.640 --> 0:26:36.760 his you know his problems? Yeah, how to stay working? 0:26:37.359 --> 0:26:39.440 You know what I'm saying. And I don't see his 0:26:39.640 --> 0:26:43.400 mind with Oh my dad and Jim, You're not gonna 0:26:43.400 --> 0:26:45.960 go to school to ever make that statement. You know 0:26:46.000 --> 0:26:49.120 what I'm saying. If the kids say where your father? No, 0:26:49.320 --> 0:26:52.119 you never so you know they was out. They was 0:26:52.160 --> 0:26:55.080 out to stay working. But when like what you were 0:26:55.080 --> 0:27:00.320 saying earlier, if if, if reppers changed their message and 0:27:00.359 --> 0:27:04.960 their music, kids won't have a choice because they're flowing 0:27:05.000 --> 0:27:07.840 off the beat already and if they're listening to it, 0:27:08.200 --> 0:27:11.280 you're recondition in their minds to say, Okay, I can 0:27:11.359 --> 0:27:14.439 do this now. If you see young black men dressed 0:27:14.520 --> 0:27:17.960 up sharp with a tie on, the next one gonna 0:27:17.960 --> 0:27:21.960 want to be like that too. That's flying. Yeah. You 0:27:21.960 --> 0:27:24.359 know we don't see that. We don't see our our 0:27:24.480 --> 0:27:27.600 young today in the suit. They think it's hey, they 0:27:27.640 --> 0:27:31.359 think it's bullshit, right right, even if even if you 0:27:31.400 --> 0:27:34.360 think about balance, bro, like you know, I listen, I'm 0:27:34.359 --> 0:27:36.720 not gonna be a hypocrite. I like some gangster ship. 0:27:36.800 --> 0:27:38.640 I like some ship with the edge. But even back 0:27:38.640 --> 0:27:40.359 in the day, think about it, bro, One of the 0:27:40.359 --> 0:27:45.760 most memorable songs was what will Smith Fresh print Summertime. 0:27:46.480 --> 0:27:51.600 I'm still my favorite. You know what I'm saying. And 0:27:52.080 --> 0:27:54.359 back then, you have balance, You had kids and play, 0:27:54.480 --> 0:27:57.800 you had uh you know, young MC, you have balance. 0:27:57.840 --> 0:27:59.719 You still had the gangster ship, but you have balance 0:28:00.080 --> 0:28:04.280 now everybody, I mean, with exception to Kendrick J. Cole, 0:28:04.640 --> 0:28:06.280 I mean you can count on one hand. You know 0:28:06.280 --> 0:28:09.280 what I'm saying. Everybody a stepper. Everybody life fucked up, 0:28:09.320 --> 0:28:13.040 everybody got it out the mud, everybody got bodies, everybody selling, 0:28:13.040 --> 0:28:16.600 everybody Pablo Escobar, you know what I'm saying. So you know, 0:28:16.720 --> 0:28:19.640 and the youngsters are impressionable. And I used to defend 0:28:19.640 --> 0:28:21.679 this is the thing I could be. I'm gonna be transparent, 0:28:21.840 --> 0:28:24.320 right because I was a rapper. I signed with No 0:28:24.400 --> 0:28:27.479 Limit Records in I was a gangster rapper and I 0:28:27.560 --> 0:28:30.680 was living that ship too. I made excuses I did. 0:28:31.000 --> 0:28:32.960 I made it. I didn't get it. I had to 0:28:33.040 --> 0:28:36.040 grow a little bit, but I made excuses for the 0:28:36.160 --> 0:28:39.360 music being as influential as it was, Like I would 0:28:39.400 --> 0:28:41.720 just be like his music. Bro, this is just mute, 0:28:41.760 --> 0:28:43.920 you know, I said to all the rapper ship. But 0:28:44.600 --> 0:28:47.640 once I got older, I looked back on some of 0:28:47.680 --> 0:28:51.640 my own experiences and I had Cebow on my show recently. 0:28:52.480 --> 0:28:55.320 I even told C Bow. I said, C Bow, I said, Man, 0:28:55.520 --> 0:28:57.760 I gotta tell you, Bro, your your music got me 0:28:57.800 --> 0:28:59.959 and some ship. I said, I was listening to one 0:29:00.000 --> 0:29:02.480 of your songs. I turned my gangster up. You know 0:29:02.480 --> 0:29:04.600 what I'm saying. When the song came up, I end 0:29:04.680 --> 0:29:07.920 up getting into a shootout. You know. But I wonder 0:29:08.000 --> 0:29:11.080 if if I wasn't playing that song, I probably would 0:29:11.080 --> 0:29:12.840 have got my ass on, you know what I'm saying 0:29:12.880 --> 0:29:14.840 and just went about my business. So I had to 0:29:14.880 --> 0:29:17.480 be honest with myself to say, even me as a 0:29:17.600 --> 0:29:21.040 strong wheel mature, you know, young adult. I was always 0:29:21.080 --> 0:29:23.640 mature beyond my years and I knew better, but even 0:29:23.680 --> 0:29:26.240 still it influenced my mood, you know what I mean. 0:29:26.560 --> 0:29:28.760 Just like something when I can listen to summertime, when 0:29:28.800 --> 0:29:31.440 I listened to Summertime. I feel good. You know what 0:29:31.480 --> 0:29:34.240 I'm saying. I feel like ship. You know, like man, 0:29:34.360 --> 0:29:36.600 life is good, you know what I mean. But ship 0:29:36.760 --> 0:29:39.400 I put on I put on some gangster ship. You know. 0:29:39.480 --> 0:29:41.240 I even shout out to m c A. You know 0:29:41.240 --> 0:29:43.280 what I mean. I put on some old school eight 0:29:43.360 --> 0:29:45.840 music to drive by. I'm on some bullshit, you know 0:29:46.040 --> 0:29:53.400 my attitude Ship. But all that stuff. I want to 0:29:53.400 --> 0:29:58.000 read this letter, man, Man, it has never been debunked 0:29:58.040 --> 0:30:01.920 as being a false letter. I really believe this is real, man, 0:30:01.960 --> 0:30:04.800 because you've gotta understand this hip hop is a big 0:30:04.920 --> 0:30:08.040 gangster rap music turned to a multi billion dollar industry broke. 0:30:08.440 --> 0:30:10.240 Some of that is systemic because look at the people 0:30:10.240 --> 0:30:12.680 that still I'm gonna read. I'm I'm gonna read something 0:30:12.680 --> 0:30:15.000 to y'all real quick. After more than twenty years, I 0:30:15.080 --> 0:30:17.520 finally decided to tell the world what I witnessed, the 0:30:18.920 --> 0:30:21.320 which I believe was one of the biggest turning points 0:30:21.360 --> 0:30:25.240 in popular music and ultimately American society. I struggled for 0:30:25.280 --> 0:30:27.760 a long time winning the pros and kinds of making 0:30:27.800 --> 0:30:30.720 the story of public as I was reluctant to implicate 0:30:30.760 --> 0:30:33.720 the individuals who were present that day, So I simply 0:30:33.760 --> 0:30:36.160 decided to leave our names and all the details that 0:30:36.240 --> 0:30:39.000 may risk my personal well being and that of those 0:30:39.040 --> 0:30:41.640 who were like me dragging something they weren't ready for. 0:30:42.760 --> 0:30:45.280 Between the late eighties and early nineties, I was what 0:30:45.320 --> 0:30:47.600 you may call a decision maker, was one of the 0:30:47.640 --> 0:30:50.800 more established companies in the music industry. I came from 0:30:50.800 --> 0:30:53.280 Europe in the early eighties and quickly established myself in 0:30:53.320 --> 0:30:57.000 the business. The industry was different back then, since technology 0:30:57.000 --> 0:30:59.600 and media weren't accessible to people like they are to day. 0:31:00.120 --> 0:31:02.560 The industry had more control over the public and had 0:31:02.600 --> 0:31:05.520 the means to influence them anyway it wanted. This may 0:31:05.560 --> 0:31:09.280 explain why in early I was invited to attend a 0:31:09.360 --> 0:31:11.880 closed door meeting with a small group of music business 0:31:11.920 --> 0:31:15.400 insiders to discuss rap music's new direction. Little did I 0:31:15.480 --> 0:31:17.400 know we would be asked to participate in one of 0:31:17.440 --> 0:31:20.880 the most unethical and destructive business practices I've ever seen. 0:31:22.640 --> 0:31:24.880 The meeting was held at a private residence on our 0:31:24.920 --> 0:31:28.200 skirts of Los Angeles. I remember about twenty five or 0:31:28.200 --> 0:31:31.400 thirty people being there, most of them familiar faces. Speaking 0:31:31.400 --> 0:31:33.800 to those I knew. We joked about the theme with 0:31:33.880 --> 0:31:35.880 a meeting as many of us did not care for 0:31:36.000 --> 0:31:38.520 rap music and failed to see the purpose of being 0:31:38.560 --> 0:31:42.240 invited to a party gathering to discuss this future. Among 0:31:42.280 --> 0:31:45.160 the attendees was a small group of unfamiliar faces who 0:31:45.200 --> 0:31:48.280 stayed to themselves and made a new attempt to socialize 0:31:48.320 --> 0:31:51.720 beyond the circle. Based on their behavior and formal appearances, 0:31:52.080 --> 0:31:54.920 they didn't seem to be in our industry. Our casual 0:31:55.000 --> 0:31:57.240 chatter was interrupted when we were asked to sign the 0:31:57.320 --> 0:32:01.120 confidentiality agreement, preventing us from discuss us and publicly The 0:32:01.200 --> 0:32:05.600 information presented during the meeting. Needless to say, disintrigued and 0:32:05.640 --> 0:32:08.680 in some cases disturbed many of us. The agreement was 0:32:08.760 --> 0:32:11.000 only a page long, but very clear on the matter 0:32:11.080 --> 0:32:14.760 and consequences, which stated that violating the terms were resulting 0:32:14.880 --> 0:32:18.240 job termination. We asked several people what this meeting was 0:32:18.280 --> 0:32:21.320 about and the reason for such secrecy, but couldn't find 0:32:21.320 --> 0:32:24.240 anyone who had answers for us. A few people refused 0:32:24.280 --> 0:32:26.760 the sign and walked out. No one stopped them. I 0:32:26.840 --> 0:32:29.320 was tempted to follow up, a curiosity got the best 0:32:29.320 --> 0:32:31.720 of me. A man who was part of the unfamiliar 0:32:31.760 --> 0:32:35.400 group collected the agreements from us quickly, After the meeting began, 0:32:35.800 --> 0:32:38.680 one of my industry colleagues, who share remain nameless like 0:32:38.720 --> 0:32:41.600 everyone else, thanked us for attending. He then gave the 0:32:41.640 --> 0:32:44.560 floor to a man who only introduced himself by first 0:32:44.640 --> 0:32:47.680 name and gave no further details about his personal background. 0:32:48.200 --> 0:32:50.160 I think he was the owner of the residence, but 0:32:50.200 --> 0:32:53.400 it was never confirmed. He briefly praised all of us 0:32:53.440 --> 0:32:55.680 for the success we had achieved in our industry and 0:32:55.720 --> 0:32:58.880 congratulated us with being selected as part of this small 0:32:58.960 --> 0:33:01.760 group of decision may pers. At this point I began 0:33:01.800 --> 0:33:04.760 to feel slightly uncomfortable at the strangeness of this gathering. 0:33:05.200 --> 0:33:07.640 The subject was changed. The speaker went on to tell 0:33:07.760 --> 0:33:11.200 us that the respective companies we represented had invested in 0:33:11.240 --> 0:33:15.160 a very profitable industry which could become even more rewarding 0:33:15.400 --> 0:33:18.520 with our active involvement. He explained that the companies we 0:33:18.600 --> 0:33:21.520 worked for had vested medians into the building of privately 0:33:21.560 --> 0:33:24.400 owned prisons, and that our positions of influence in the 0:33:24.480 --> 0:33:28.920 music industry would actually impact the profitability of these investments. 0:33:29.360 --> 0:33:31.600 I remember many of us in the group immediately looking 0:33:31.640 --> 0:33:34.880 at each other in confusion. At the time, I didn't 0:33:34.920 --> 0:33:37.440 know what the private prison was but I wasn't the 0:33:37.480 --> 0:33:40.680 only one. Sure enough, someone asked what the prisons were 0:33:40.800 --> 0:33:42.520 and where any of this had to do with us. 0:33:42.800 --> 0:33:45.440 We were told that these prisons were built by privately 0:33:45.480 --> 0:33:48.600 owned companies who received funding from the government based on 0:33:48.680 --> 0:33:51.440 the number of indemates. The more inmates, the more money 0:33:51.440 --> 0:33:54.320 the government would pay these prisons. It was also made 0:33:54.360 --> 0:33:57.040 clear to us that since these prisons are privately owned, 0:33:57.320 --> 0:34:00.800 if they become publicly traded, we be able to buy shares. 0:34:01.120 --> 0:34:04.040 Most of us were taken back by this. Again, a 0:34:04.080 --> 0:34:06.200 couple of people asked what this had to do with us. 0:34:06.440 --> 0:34:09.480 At this point, my industry colleague, who had first opened 0:34:09.520 --> 0:34:12.360 the meeting, took the floor again and answered our questions. 0:34:13.719 --> 0:34:16.400 He told us that since our employers have become solid 0:34:16.480 --> 0:34:19.160 investors in this prison business, it was now in their 0:34:19.200 --> 0:34:21.640 inswest to make sure that these prisons for main field. 0:34:22.040 --> 0:34:24.200 Our job would be to help make this happen by 0:34:24.280 --> 0:34:28.319 marketing music which the most criminal behavior, rap being the 0:34:28.400 --> 0:34:30.799 music of choice. He assured us that this would be 0:34:30.800 --> 0:34:34.160 a great situation for us because rap music was becoming 0:34:34.200 --> 0:34:38.080 an increasingly profitable market for our companies, and as an employee, 0:34:38.480 --> 0:34:41.440 we'd also be able to buy personal stocks in these prisons. 0:34:41.640 --> 0:34:44.080 I'm not gonna go through this whole letter man, but 0:34:45.160 --> 0:34:47.480 based on the stuff that we've been seeing as a 0:34:47.640 --> 0:34:49.759 late man, based on some of the stuff we've been 0:34:50.239 --> 0:34:52.279 I think it's very plausible that that could have been 0:34:52.320 --> 0:34:57.160 a real meeting, Bro. I mean it sounds plausible. I 0:34:57.200 --> 0:35:00.560 mean because they didn't necessarily name names and get specific. 0:35:00.600 --> 0:35:03.160 I mean, that could have been written by anybody. But 0:35:03.760 --> 0:35:07.280 it is definitely plausible, Bro. And and it doesn't sound 0:35:07.360 --> 0:35:09.160 far from the truth. I mean, it seems like it 0:35:09.239 --> 0:35:12.040 happened just like that. Well, you know, if you think 0:35:12.080 --> 0:35:15.080 about it, think about think about crack for example, right, 0:35:16.000 --> 0:35:19.200 think about how in our community. Yeah, sure, why couldn't 0:35:19.239 --> 0:35:21.279 they do the same thing with the music, because like 0:35:21.440 --> 0:35:23.680 that's even been able to brow The tongue speaks life 0:35:23.680 --> 0:35:26.000 and death. You read with you, So if you talk 0:35:26.040 --> 0:35:28.640 about death in destruction, if you're constantly putting off this 0:35:28.880 --> 0:35:31.960 just a deafinite destruction, the chaos, I'm walking around with 0:35:32.000 --> 0:35:34.719 my stick, I'm walking around with my boat. You hear, 0:35:35.080 --> 0:35:37.000 that's the ship that's gonna go platinumf you make this, 0:35:37.120 --> 0:35:39.640 make the song that they're talking about. I Love my 0:35:39.680 --> 0:35:43.160 brothers and this man man, you didn't go to go Wood, right, 0:35:43.440 --> 0:35:46.440 and you can put it in the same cadence because 0:35:46.480 --> 0:35:49.480 I heard gospel music. It sounds like secular music, you 0:35:49.520 --> 0:35:51.960 know what I'm saying. And it was until I rode 0:35:52.000 --> 0:35:54.320 in on the lyrics like damn, you're talking about Jesus. 0:35:54.480 --> 0:35:56.320 I thought this was you know what I'm saying, Jody 0:35:56.400 --> 0:36:00.960 see you know so um I mean, but like you said, yeah, 0:36:01.400 --> 0:36:04.719 it all feels like a conspiracy. Bro. They give us 0:36:04.760 --> 0:36:06.759 the tools to destroy ourselves. You know what I'm saying. 0:36:06.800 --> 0:36:10.319 We got guns, we got you know, systemic issues, we 0:36:10.400 --> 0:36:13.600 got you know, I'm not gonna say necessarily lack of 0:36:14.040 --> 0:36:16.400 opportunity at this point, but we have to fight a 0:36:16.400 --> 0:36:19.120 little bit harder to get the information and to get 0:36:19.120 --> 0:36:22.560 in position. Um uh. You know, people got you know, 0:36:22.800 --> 0:36:25.480 people lose hope, you got drugs, you got guns. Then 0:36:25.560 --> 0:36:28.759 you have this this culture, this this you know, this 0:36:29.000 --> 0:36:32.640 very powerful influential culture that's that's telling you. You know, 0:36:32.800 --> 0:36:36.040 Fox school, you know what I mean, Like trap, go scam. 0:36:36.160 --> 0:36:37.719 You know what I'm saying, Go go break a bit, 0:36:38.200 --> 0:36:40.320 you know, go rob a nigga. You know what I'm saying. 0:36:40.840 --> 0:36:42.920 And you got in the same thing for the young ladies, 0:36:42.920 --> 0:36:45.840 you know, fuck getting the education, fun, getting married, you know, 0:36:45.960 --> 0:36:48.399 be fuck nigga, free fucking nigga. You know what I'm saying, 0:36:48.400 --> 0:36:50.640 Get you a get you a rich nigga and break him. 0:36:50.680 --> 0:36:52.839 You know, sell it, don't give it for free. So 0:36:52.920 --> 0:36:57.320 now you've got them raising prostitutes basically. So, um, it's crazy, 0:36:57.480 --> 0:36:59.560 just how we And again I don't want to sound 0:36:59.600 --> 0:37:04.200 hyper critical, but um, I think because I understand the 0:37:04.280 --> 0:37:07.719 context of entertainment, but the entertainment is killing us. You know, 0:37:07.800 --> 0:37:10.799 we are the entertainment. We are the entertainment you know 0:37:11.320 --> 0:37:14.640 to the overall majority, you know, and they're profited off 0:37:14.680 --> 0:37:17.080 of it more than we are. That's just and and 0:37:17.080 --> 0:37:18.600 and you know, again, I don't want to be a 0:37:18.680 --> 0:37:21.040 hypocrite because I enjoyed some of the ship, but I 0:37:21.120 --> 0:37:23.279 just think that when we start trying to live it out, 0:37:23.719 --> 0:37:26.360 that's the problem. It's one thing for it to be entertainment, 0:37:26.760 --> 0:37:28.480 but because you've got to think about it, rock and 0:37:28.600 --> 0:37:31.360 roll and acid wrapping all that stuff. You had hardcore, 0:37:31.520 --> 0:37:34.759 other genres that were hardcore, but their fan base wasn't 0:37:34.800 --> 0:37:37.840 living that out. You know, they wasn't going out flattering 0:37:38.239 --> 0:37:41.239 you know, sacrificing whatever the A. C. D. C's of 0:37:41.280 --> 0:37:44.279 the world was doing. But we're actually living this ship out, 0:37:44.400 --> 0:37:48.399 so you know, I don't know, Yeah, we're actually living 0:37:48.400 --> 0:37:52.080 this stuff out big time throw in when you think 0:37:52.120 --> 0:37:55.600 about it, like like like really just think about it, right, 0:37:56.280 --> 0:38:00.279 the influence that music has over just a side now 0:38:00.360 --> 0:38:03.759 and our children. Right, you had kids in the suburbs, 0:38:03.800 --> 0:38:06.200 man whose parents have worked hard to get him up 0:38:06.200 --> 0:38:07.759 out of there. The first thing they wanted to go 0:38:07.800 --> 0:38:09.839 do when he heard in the w A was, Man, 0:38:09.880 --> 0:38:12.640 I want to go to content. I want to go 0:38:12.680 --> 0:38:14.480 see what the hell is going on down there? You 0:38:14.520 --> 0:38:18.640 think what I'm saying. So it's it's very enticing, dog like, 0:38:18.640 --> 0:38:21.640 like the Games of Lifestyle is very enticeing and attracted 0:38:21.719 --> 0:38:23.960 to a person looking in on the outside of it, right, 0:38:25.120 --> 0:38:27.640 you know. But you you think about it, man, we're 0:38:27.640 --> 0:38:32.560 losing our young people at an alarming rate. It's very 0:38:32.680 --> 0:38:35.879 to me, it's a it's a very concentrated effort man, 0:38:36.640 --> 0:38:39.040 to just get rid of Black America at all costs, 0:38:39.040 --> 0:38:41.640 it seems like to me. And if people can't see that, 0:38:41.680 --> 0:38:43.560 they vision blurry, because I'm gonna tell you what they 0:38:43.600 --> 0:38:46.080 want to do. They want to keep us stuck with 0:38:46.160 --> 0:38:49.280 these just images on televion. You know, these just negative 0:38:49.320 --> 0:38:52.480 images were constantly being fed our own imagery back. So 0:38:52.520 --> 0:38:55.719 now you got grown as men online acting like buffoons 0:38:57.800 --> 0:39:00.560 because they don't have no other means, and they figure, well, 0:39:00.560 --> 0:39:02.360 that's the way I'm appau able to make a few dollars, 0:39:02.400 --> 0:39:04.520 you know what I mean. So now they just uppen 0:39:04.560 --> 0:39:06.759 it up. Man, You see this one, this this you know, 0:39:06.760 --> 0:39:08.400 I don't even want to say his name, just for 0:39:08.520 --> 0:39:11.000 fear that he's gonna start coming away with the bullship. 0:39:11.080 --> 0:39:12.680 But you see, buddy, don't pull the gun on the 0:39:12.760 --> 0:39:15.480 motherfucker through the interview and don't kind of other ship. 0:39:15.960 --> 0:39:18.640 And I can just see the time coming to where 0:39:18.640 --> 0:39:20.719 he meets since the mind's playing with the wrong one. 0:39:21.520 --> 0:39:23.279 Because I'm gonna tell you now, you come when are 0:39:23.320 --> 0:39:25.000 set trying to pull out a down you you you're 0:39:25.040 --> 0:39:27.719 not gonna make it out of there. Yeah, that's real. 0:39:27.840 --> 0:39:29.840 I wonder how much of that is cap though, you 0:39:29.880 --> 0:39:32.120 know what I'm saying. You know, I wonder, But even 0:39:32.120 --> 0:39:34.200 if it's not, you have a whole bunch of people 0:39:34.200 --> 0:39:36.640 that's looking at like this. It's only a matter of 0:39:36.719 --> 0:39:39.040 time before somebody really comes with a gun on the 0:39:39.080 --> 0:39:41.320 show and just blame my motherfucker right here on the 0:39:41.400 --> 0:39:43.000 thing on the live or some ship I'm telling you 0:39:43.120 --> 0:39:46.319 was coming. Well, hopefully it's not on our ship. Yeah, yeah, 0:39:46.760 --> 0:39:50.759 like that. Mhm. It seems like it's gonna happen with 0:39:50.920 --> 0:39:55.640 everything going on the way people are disrespecting grown men. 0:39:56.600 --> 0:40:02.160 Uh yeah, somebody's gonna run the wrong person, and you know, 0:40:02.520 --> 0:40:05.520 bad things happening. You know, I don't I'm not gonna 0:40:05.520 --> 0:40:08.120 try to promote it, but you know, you can see 0:40:08.120 --> 0:40:11.520 it coming with all the ship, you know, with all 0:40:11.560 --> 0:40:15.520 these guys being killed, that's real ship that they know 0:40:16.440 --> 0:40:21.960 makeup ship, that's real ship. So with that man violence, 0:40:22.920 --> 0:40:26.799 but you know, you know, knowing, we gotta look at 0:40:26.800 --> 0:40:29.080 it like this because when I was growing up, I've 0:40:29.120 --> 0:40:34.320 seen it all you've seen. You've seen the PCP prostitution 0:40:34.880 --> 0:40:39.560 for for young women today or runaway black female, it's 0:40:39.600 --> 0:40:43.799 the prostitute. She don't see no other means, no other way. 0:40:43.800 --> 0:40:47.760 We got young men running around here being pimps because 0:40:47.760 --> 0:40:51.520 they don't have no better way. So I think we 0:40:51.800 --> 0:40:55.359 we were quick to clean to what works for us 0:40:55.400 --> 0:40:58.239 at the time, how we can make money opposed to 0:40:58.320 --> 0:41:00.840 going out and doing the right thing. You see what 0:41:00.880 --> 0:41:05.240 I'm saying. So it's it's more than rapping music that's 0:41:05.280 --> 0:41:09.000 sucking us up. You know what I'm saying. We are 0:41:09.080 --> 0:41:13.760 so easy to be influenced by others, approached our own people. 0:41:14.360 --> 0:41:21.520 We are quick to do each other just because somebody 0:41:21.560 --> 0:41:25.080 else's personal game. Should I say? I hope you'll understand 0:41:25.120 --> 0:41:29.200 where I'm coming from. We lost a lot of leaders 0:41:30.120 --> 0:41:35.680 because there's that one we cat that you know, the 0:41:35.719 --> 0:41:40.000 police funk with that went baman, you know, funked up ship. 0:41:40.640 --> 0:41:42.600 You know when you're talking on this ship man, you 0:41:42.600 --> 0:41:46.520 you you, you tend to just go through all kinds 0:41:46.520 --> 0:41:50.840 of ships. So I'm trying to light fun sugarcoating. We 0:41:51.000 --> 0:41:53.880 have sold each other also, goddamn bad, We used to it, 0:41:54.440 --> 0:41:56.360 you know what I'm saying. When let's go all the 0:41:56.400 --> 0:41:58.359 way back to slavery, all the way up to now, 0:41:58.880 --> 0:42:03.120 we sell each other out by any means necessary. So 0:42:03.280 --> 0:42:07.040 it's more than just wrap that's sucking us up. Rap 0:42:07.160 --> 0:42:10.719 plays the biggest part of it, I say, because if 0:42:10.800 --> 0:42:13.279 you can get rid of every young black man and 0:42:13.480 --> 0:42:20.120 he can't be productive or produce family children, then yeah, 0:42:20.200 --> 0:42:23.839 we're killing ourselves slowly, but surely we're wiping ourselves out 0:42:23.880 --> 0:42:27.680 and don't even know. And and ship this is gonna coach. 0:42:28.000 --> 0:42:29.759 You kill a black man if you don't have to 0:42:29.800 --> 0:42:32.480 pay a fine, because we're gonna be extinct, like motherfucker. 0:42:33.200 --> 0:42:35.520 You can't kill us, you know what I'm saying. But 0:42:36.280 --> 0:42:41.000 I mean we we sucked up man. And just listening 0:42:41.040 --> 0:42:45.279 to that letter, that letter tells a lot. When you 0:42:45.400 --> 0:42:48.919 go to prison, brother, you're working for a twelveth cent. 0:42:50.200 --> 0:42:53.040 You're working for thirty four cent the top nights, dott 0:42:54.520 --> 0:42:57.080 and I'm talking about labor. You're working in the laundry, 0:42:57.200 --> 0:43:02.919 you cleaning, washing ship that don't consist of penitentiary ship. 0:43:03.680 --> 0:43:06.960 But you folded and you're doing you you making searchs, 0:43:07.040 --> 0:43:11.200 you're making license plates California people, you got all that 0:43:11.320 --> 0:43:14.640 ship is prison ship? And how much money do they 0:43:14.760 --> 0:43:18.319 make for making that ship? But you're only getting uh 0:43:19.760 --> 0:43:24.000 twenty pass in an hour to press a thousand plates today? 0:43:24.320 --> 0:43:27.759 You see what I'm saying. So it is slavery. You 0:43:27.840 --> 0:43:31.480 know what I'm saying. They're working your ass. Just think 0:43:31.880 --> 0:43:35.000 you got twenty five years and you mastered this ship. 0:43:36.320 --> 0:43:38.880 You can work the machines and every machine. They got 0:43:39.000 --> 0:43:42.200 a top notch sneaker working the machines, teaching every other 0:43:42.280 --> 0:43:44.760 motherfucker that come in there how to work their machines 0:43:44.840 --> 0:43:47.560 and make the Mason place how to work those lines 0:43:47.600 --> 0:43:51.080 of machines. Just think how much that you you will 0:43:51.160 --> 0:43:54.440 be paying to come on the prison yard and cook 0:43:56.040 --> 0:44:00.799 the it mayste it it makes in the cold part 0:44:00.800 --> 0:44:03.719 of Barty James. It's not like in the cold part 0:44:03.760 --> 0:44:06.000 of Bottle Bro's not like they can take them skills. 0:44:06.040 --> 0:44:08.640 They had them prisoner card and just get a job automatically. No, 0:44:08.800 --> 0:44:11.520 something home would be a little cooks or whatever. But 0:44:11.800 --> 0:44:15.120 what I'm saying to you is, as you was reading 0:44:15.160 --> 0:44:19.080 that letter, you can just hear just the like this 0:44:19.200 --> 0:44:21.919 ship is. That's for real. That letter is for real. Yeah, 0:44:23.400 --> 0:44:26.239 I believe it's authentic. I believe in that lets it 0:44:26.440 --> 0:44:29.600 is and it happens. So are they making more prisons 0:44:30.160 --> 0:44:33.960 to to make more money. They make money because they're 0:44:34.000 --> 0:44:36.680 getting in the cotton and all other kinds of ship. 0:44:37.200 --> 0:44:39.759 And you go out and work for it. You got 0:44:39.880 --> 0:44:44.719 inmates that go and fight fires. You know what I'm saying. 0:44:44.800 --> 0:44:47.759 That's the camp that's free. You putting your life on 0:44:47.840 --> 0:44:52.160 the line. Fighting fires. You got inmates that work the yard, 0:44:52.280 --> 0:44:56.799 and and like like SMC sending those abaseball you out 0:44:56.840 --> 0:45:02.399 there picking up garbage on the the beach. Mhm. See 0:45:02.440 --> 0:45:05.640 what I'm saying. You're used for a whole lot of 0:45:05.760 --> 0:45:08.520 things that they get a whole lot of money for doing, 0:45:08.880 --> 0:45:13.879 but you only get a cent, See what I'm saying. Yeah, 0:45:14.360 --> 0:45:16.520 So so let me ask let me ask you guys this. 0:45:17.520 --> 0:45:20.200 So I mean, with all of this being said, right, 0:45:20.680 --> 0:45:24.600 and and the information is out there right, So at 0:45:24.680 --> 0:45:27.279 this point, I think the culture, you know, at least 0:45:27.360 --> 0:45:30.400 for the most part or even of us, we know 0:45:30.560 --> 0:45:33.400 to play right because because because of the Internet, because 0:45:33.440 --> 0:45:36.359 we're all able to be connected, you know, unlike back 0:45:36.400 --> 0:45:39.680 in the day where you know, you had the newspaper magazines, 0:45:39.719 --> 0:45:41.960 if you didn't read or nothing like that, you wouldn't 0:45:42.000 --> 0:45:46.440 know the information, right, So why do we choose to steal, 0:45:47.520 --> 0:45:50.399 you know, play the destructive game? If we know the play? 0:45:50.719 --> 0:45:53.600 We literally know that Okay, they got these prisons built 0:45:53.680 --> 0:45:55.880 for us, they can't wait to put us in jail. 0:45:55.920 --> 0:45:58.000 We know the dope game fucked up. They can't then 0:45:58.160 --> 0:46:00.880 infiltrated that we can't get money like that. We know 0:46:01.239 --> 0:46:03.680 if we're a rapper. We know they're looking for the rico. 0:46:04.120 --> 0:46:05.759 We know you know what I'm saying, So we know 0:46:06.040 --> 0:46:08.440 all these plays are set in motion to funk us up. 0:46:08.880 --> 0:46:11.959 Why do we keep getting Why do we keep playing 0:46:12.000 --> 0:46:15.440 into it? What's this pollution? Why? Why? Why? Well? You 0:46:15.600 --> 0:46:18.399 keep playing into it because you don't You don't see 0:46:18.400 --> 0:46:21.399 another way out. You don't have an alternative. You don't 0:46:21.440 --> 0:46:25.280 have an option. If I had an option from okay, 0:46:25.280 --> 0:46:28.640 I can go to Texas and may thirty dollars in 0:46:28.680 --> 0:46:31.320 our were supposed to sitting in the hood doing nothing, 0:46:31.480 --> 0:46:33.920 I would have took that. But we don't have that. 0:46:34.080 --> 0:46:37.640 We can't tell them cats come do this, get out 0:46:37.680 --> 0:46:39.400 of the game bag and put the guns down there. 0:46:39.680 --> 0:46:43.279 They didn't try they didn't try this. But it don't 0:46:43.320 --> 0:46:46.600 work because once you go home, man, you you you 0:46:46.920 --> 0:46:51.000 you in the hood, and when that happened, everything else 0:46:51.120 --> 0:46:54.759 is still moving in a circle around you and you're 0:46:54.840 --> 0:46:58.920 trying to be right. So you know, if if, if 0:46:59.120 --> 0:47:04.000 if we had something to get rid of something, and 0:47:04.120 --> 0:47:07.000 we had a choice to do this or that, I 0:47:07.120 --> 0:47:09.040 think a lot of a lot of these young cats 0:47:09.120 --> 0:47:11.640 that do it, you know what I'm saying. I think 0:47:11.680 --> 0:47:13.920 a lot of cats will make better choices than with 0:47:14.080 --> 0:47:18.719 it making a day, because I nine times nine times 0:47:18.760 --> 0:47:22.240 got a ten. If you got podcasts doing the smashing graph, 0:47:22.680 --> 0:47:25.840 three of them don't want to do it. Three of 0:47:25.920 --> 0:47:27.640 them don't want to do it, but they found on 0:47:27.760 --> 0:47:30.759 those two. But those two is the ones that's really 0:47:30.800 --> 0:47:34.759 out there, and that's that's promoting the situation. You can't 0:47:34.840 --> 0:47:39.080 save everybody. All of us ain't gonna be saved. You 0:47:39.160 --> 0:47:44.600 already know that. So you know, we get locked up, 0:47:45.040 --> 0:47:47.440 we get a trade, but it ain't gonna do no good. 0:47:47.520 --> 0:47:50.800 I got life in prison. I got all these certiicapates 0:47:51.920 --> 0:47:54.520 in myself, but I can't use them because I'm never 0:47:54.600 --> 0:47:57.959 getting out. What's the purpose. A lot of lifers don't 0:47:57.960 --> 0:48:01.680 want to work. So it's of choices and the things 0:48:01.760 --> 0:48:05.160 that we don't have, bro Dad, that keeps us stagnated. 0:48:05.360 --> 0:48:11.399 Where we're at, Yeah, go ahead. Still, I think it's 0:48:11.440 --> 0:48:13.719 a big par e. James knocked down the hold chunk 0:48:13.760 --> 0:48:15.120 of it because I was gonna say some of that, 0:48:15.840 --> 0:48:19.000 and I believe it's our hubrish too. Court. I think 0:48:19.080 --> 0:48:20.960 that we just seem to have this thing in our 0:48:21.040 --> 0:48:23.279 mind that we go go on this mission. And we 0:48:23.400 --> 0:48:26.720 go get away from it, and we've never pictured nothing 0:48:26.840 --> 0:48:30.880 happening to us. We don't have and anything else we 0:48:30.960 --> 0:48:33.200 see it happened a million times to everyone else. But 0:48:33.280 --> 0:48:35.000 we seem to think that we've got a different way 0:48:35.040 --> 0:48:37.920 to reinvent the wheel all the time, like like you know, 0:48:38.120 --> 0:48:41.040 we've seen We've seen the homie get busted up the 0:48:41.080 --> 0:48:43.959 block twenty times and get walked down the street button 0:48:44.000 --> 0:48:46.160 naked and embarrass you know, the niked is the biggest ball, 0:48:46.200 --> 0:48:48.120 and they make sure they embarrass him all the time 0:48:48.120 --> 0:48:51.120 when they take them down. I started his house, button naked, 0:48:51.440 --> 0:48:53.239 little thing, just blowing all all in the wind and 0:48:53.400 --> 0:48:55.439 just you know, getting smacked on the back of the head. 0:48:55.760 --> 0:48:57.640 But we think, oh yeah, now I'm about to come 0:48:57.719 --> 0:48:59.279 take that over, and I ain't gonna get crack because 0:48:59.280 --> 0:49:01.279 I'm gonna do something different. And then you see us 0:49:01.360 --> 0:49:03.520 as doing the same damn strow without the thing. So 0:49:03.640 --> 0:49:06.520 we keep seeing the same ship, but we keep thinking 0:49:06.560 --> 0:49:08.759 that we just go have different results all the time. 0:49:09.239 --> 0:49:11.520 And I think it's our own air against our own 0:49:11.640 --> 0:49:16.000 vanity and are and just being truly lazy because and 0:49:16.120 --> 0:49:20.000 everybody wants something for nothing, bro, don't nobody ever want 0:49:20.000 --> 0:49:22.239 to go work for it. We always think it's a lick. 0:49:22.360 --> 0:49:24.640 Everything in the damn lick. Though. Life ain't about a lick, 0:49:25.760 --> 0:49:28.520 you see what I'm saying. Life is about you working hard, 0:49:28.640 --> 0:49:30.440 dog and getting off your ass, and you want to 0:49:30.480 --> 0:49:34.440 go try to achieve something. But we want to easy. 0:49:34.560 --> 0:49:36.879 We think everything is easy. That's why when you talk 0:49:36.920 --> 0:49:40.680 to most kids, they want to be like, I remember, 0:49:40.760 --> 0:49:42.960 you used to want to be a professional athlete dog 0:49:43.120 --> 0:49:45.120 just for the three of the competing against the best 0:49:45.200 --> 0:49:49.080 of the best. Right now, it's like you get a 0:49:49.160 --> 0:49:50.640 lot of guys to come safe for the money, and 0:49:50.680 --> 0:49:53.440 ain't nothing wrong with that. Guys want to be rappers 0:49:53.560 --> 0:49:56.319 for the money because they want to change their people's life. 0:49:56.360 --> 0:49:58.040 It ain't for the love of the culture, for none 0:49:58.080 --> 0:50:02.759 of that. It's because they want to get well. That 0:50:02.960 --> 0:50:07.680 the average king excuse the average kid and nine years 0:50:07.760 --> 0:50:10.320 old saying I'm not doing nothing. I ain't got to 0:50:10.360 --> 0:50:12.719 go to school. I'm just gonna be a wrapper. I'm 0:50:12.760 --> 0:50:15.799 gonna make rap something, be rich. That ain't the way 0:50:15.880 --> 0:50:19.839 to think of nine years old. That's real. Come on, man, 0:50:19.920 --> 0:50:22.719 we just gotta change it and something. Just these cats 0:50:22.800 --> 0:50:26.000 with these these mentalities, man, it ain't good for us. 0:50:27.000 --> 0:50:31.480 We're backwards. We're going backwards. That's real, that's real. I 0:50:31.600 --> 0:50:33.840 think too. I think some of it, man, is just 0:50:33.920 --> 0:50:36.120 a lack of hope too. You know what I mean 0:50:37.000 --> 0:50:39.200 When I go back to my own experiences when I 0:50:39.360 --> 0:50:42.759 was young, and you know, I was raised on love, 0:50:42.920 --> 0:50:45.160 not survival, you know what I'm saying. So it's like, 0:50:45.400 --> 0:50:48.160 but even you know, you start smelling your piss around 0:50:48.239 --> 0:50:51.400 fourteen fifteen, you start doing ship and I can remember 0:50:51.560 --> 0:50:55.160 me doing crash out ship, and but I always still 0:50:55.239 --> 0:50:57.839 have hope, you know what I mean. Like like you said, 0:50:57.960 --> 0:51:00.480 like you just said, Jake, you said that if five 0:51:00.560 --> 0:51:02.719 niggas is doing a smash and grab, three of them 0:51:02.800 --> 0:51:05.359 don't really want to be doing it. Um. I can 0:51:05.440 --> 0:51:07.040 remember some of the ship we was doing when I 0:51:07.120 --> 0:51:09.440 was fourteen fifteen, Like we hit a gun store, different 0:51:09.480 --> 0:51:12.759 things like that. I was with it, but I wasn't 0:51:12.800 --> 0:51:15.640 with it to the extent that, Okay, this is all 0:51:15.719 --> 0:51:17.640 it is for me, you know what I'm saying. Like 0:51:18.360 --> 0:51:21.239 I'm just I'm gonna go to prison, I'm gonna running yard. 0:51:21.400 --> 0:51:24.359 Like you know, always still had hope. And I think 0:51:24.440 --> 0:51:27.799 that I think maybe helping some of these kids, uh 0:51:28.160 --> 0:51:30.680 find that hope and find a purpose, I think because 0:51:30.719 --> 0:51:33.360 once they established a purpose and a dream, like because 0:51:33.360 --> 0:51:35.800 I was always a dream. So I really believe that 0:51:36.320 --> 0:51:39.080 once you have a dream and you establish a purpose, 0:51:39.520 --> 0:51:42.160 you intend to make different decisions. And you gotta be 0:51:42.280 --> 0:51:44.880 able to see that ship even when your circumstances is 0:51:44.960 --> 0:51:47.120 fucked up. I know it's easier said than done. You 0:51:47.239 --> 0:51:50.080 might have a kid that got you know, vote a parent, 0:51:50.160 --> 0:51:52.560 locked up, parent on drugs, you know, and they just 0:51:52.600 --> 0:51:54.440 trying to fell for themselves and they just trying to 0:51:54.480 --> 0:51:57.360 survive from day to day, and all everybody around you 0:51:57.440 --> 0:52:00.719 is doing negative ship. Um, and I know what that's like. 0:52:00.960 --> 0:52:03.200 But you know, I think it's just being able to 0:52:03.320 --> 0:52:07.200 interject some hope into the community and in unity, you know, 0:52:07.400 --> 0:52:11.160 even amongst our culture. I really believe that. I don't 0:52:11.200 --> 0:52:14.120 think man can unify us. I think that's something above us. 0:52:14.160 --> 0:52:16.120 I think that's only God could do that. You know 0:52:16.160 --> 0:52:19.600 what I mean, because just by by nature, we are 0:52:20.000 --> 0:52:22.560 you know, we're we're we're we I mean, listen to 0:52:23.239 --> 0:52:26.239 I know the evil of men's hearts, because I know 0:52:26.400 --> 0:52:28.120 the evil in mind. You know what I'm saying. We 0:52:28.239 --> 0:52:30.960 all got it some of us just can control it 0:52:31.120 --> 0:52:34.440 and modulate it better. When you can be honest with yourself, 0:52:34.840 --> 0:52:37.080 no matter how uncomfortable that ship is, then you can 0:52:37.120 --> 0:52:38.799 address it and do the work, you know what I mean. 0:52:39.160 --> 0:52:43.160 So I think just hope, you know, any youngster listening, man, 0:52:43.280 --> 0:52:45.279 just just you gotta have hope, man, because when you 0:52:45.360 --> 0:52:47.800 lose that hope, you don't give a funk what happens 0:52:47.840 --> 0:52:49.279 to you. And when you don't give a funk what 0:52:49.360 --> 0:52:51.520 happens to you, then you ain't gonna give a funk 0:52:51.520 --> 0:52:54.279 about nobody else. If you don't care about dying, you 0:52:54.320 --> 0:52:57.319 don't care about going to jail, That's exactly what's gonna happen, 0:52:57.320 --> 0:52:58.839 you know what I mean, Because you can't care about 0:52:58.880 --> 0:53:00.960 the next nigga life. And I know how that is, 0:53:01.200 --> 0:53:04.200 you know from experience. J I'm sure you can. You 0:53:04.280 --> 0:53:06.240 can attest to that, you know what I mean, because 0:53:06.280 --> 0:53:08.880 when you don't care about you, you don't see humanity 0:53:09.040 --> 0:53:12.759 in the next nigger you like. You know, I could 0:53:12.800 --> 0:53:15.160 care less, you know what I mean. But I think 0:53:15.239 --> 0:53:18.680 when that's checked, you know, along with like I said, 0:53:18.719 --> 0:53:21.360 we got the information the same way that the youngsters 0:53:21.400 --> 0:53:24.200 can get the information, which makes them feel empowered that 0:53:24.320 --> 0:53:26.840 they know more than us and they know everything. You 0:53:26.920 --> 0:53:29.640 can get the same information to empower yourself and really 0:53:29.680 --> 0:53:35.239 apply because knowledge is power, but applied knowledge is you know, priceless. 0:53:35.680 --> 0:53:38.040 So I don't know. I think it's addressing that hope. Man. 0:53:38.280 --> 0:53:40.120 I think that's a big part of it, because they'll 0:53:40.160 --> 0:53:43.759 make different choices if they just exactly when you know 0:53:43.920 --> 0:53:45.840 what all of this flows into. And I know we 0:53:45.920 --> 0:53:47.919 don't have much time left, but I want to touch 0:53:48.040 --> 0:53:52.360 on this. All of this stuff is actually all this 0:53:52.480 --> 0:53:58.040 stuff actually like goes full circle because Blacks have really 0:53:59.080 --> 0:54:02.320 we don't trust on another, We don't respect one another, 0:54:02.440 --> 0:54:04.080 and we nor do we trust one of those I'm 0:54:04.120 --> 0:54:06.920 gonna tell you something I saw the other day. I 0:54:07.120 --> 0:54:08.960 was inside of one of my buddies. He got a 0:54:09.040 --> 0:54:12.719 T shirt shop right over in bail Flower. Man, you 0:54:12.760 --> 0:54:14.120 know I was up there. I was up there to 0:54:14.200 --> 0:54:15.759 buy a few T shirts. You know, if I'm gonna 0:54:15.760 --> 0:54:17.160 go buy a T shirt, I go to this shop 0:54:17.200 --> 0:54:20.040 and I'm support him. I saw his brother in there, 0:54:20.760 --> 0:54:26.120 Hey man, let me get a discount, and the girl 0:54:26.200 --> 0:54:28.840 behind the counters telling them like, hey, this is what 0:54:29.000 --> 0:54:31.719 it is. It's five nine. But man, you know, but 0:54:31.880 --> 0:54:34.080 I can't get a dollar off two man, I don't 0:54:34.120 --> 0:54:36.520 know what's wrong with y'all. Y'all can't give us a discount. 0:54:36.520 --> 0:54:38.799 And I asked myself, brod Checkers, would you walk up 0:54:38.800 --> 0:54:41.200 to Macy's and asked him for a discount. If we 0:54:41.280 --> 0:54:43.560 go up to Macy's, Man, if the price tag says 0:54:43.640 --> 0:54:46.960 n dollars on there, we gonna pay them mark day 0:54:47.040 --> 0:54:49.320 nine eighty and they taxes or whatever, and we go 0:54:49.440 --> 0:54:52.320 get the funk on. And a lot of times not 0:54:52.400 --> 0:54:54.319 even gonna ask for the receiver, go and keep the receipt. 0:54:54.360 --> 0:54:56.640 Ain't tripping. But if it's one of us, if we 0:54:56.760 --> 0:54:58.960 walk in we see somebody behind us look like us, 0:54:59.280 --> 0:55:01.759 we want to ask for discounts. We want to ask 0:55:01.840 --> 0:55:03.719 for this. We want to ask for that man just 0:55:03.880 --> 0:55:07.879 purchased the ship and respect They shot like you would 0:55:07.960 --> 0:55:10.680 the next man's. We can't get along with each other. 0:55:10.840 --> 0:55:13.719 I remember James said something before man a long time ago. 0:55:14.239 --> 0:55:17.000 We had to stick together. Let's not be like everybody else. 0:55:17.080 --> 0:55:19.880 Man shoot a ship, stand niggas wound up tearing up 0:55:19.920 --> 0:55:23.840 some ship. You know, we we we our own worst enemies, bro. 0:55:24.080 --> 0:55:26.399 And it's sad to me it's like it's really sad. 0:55:26.800 --> 0:55:28.400 And I'm hoping that one day I can see the 0:55:28.480 --> 0:55:30.880 day man that I could see brothers just working together, 0:55:31.200 --> 0:55:34.640 supporting one another and not and not tripping like porch. 0:55:34.719 --> 0:55:38.160 You gotta um, you gotta energy. What is it like? 0:55:38.360 --> 0:55:42.640 It's a health it's a fitness thing, right, say it again. 0:55:43.320 --> 0:55:46.399 I said you gotta fitness shape that you're doing right? Yeah, 0:55:46.520 --> 0:55:49.680 I got my own supplement up to muscle sports. Yeah, yeah, 0:55:49.719 --> 0:55:53.880 you got supplement. If you are out there selling that 0:55:53.960 --> 0:55:57.320 supplement out the trunk of your car, I guarantee you 0:55:58.040 --> 0:56:01.400 if a white person coming by the most people, but 0:56:01.520 --> 0:56:05.359 it's gonna be that nigger, right the black person if 0:56:05.400 --> 0:56:09.799 you say he's gonna give it to you, the white 0:56:09.840 --> 0:56:11.560 person go give it to you. The Mesican person can 0:56:11.680 --> 0:56:13.239 give it to you, But the one nigger don't come. 0:56:13.880 --> 0:56:15.879 He go in. You're twenty. It's where you can get 0:56:15.920 --> 0:56:19.759 two jars for twenty. Yeah. Now you just ain't making 0:56:19.920 --> 0:56:23.359 your price for no reason. Bro, You got everything putting there. Okay, 0:56:23.400 --> 0:56:25.920 it cost me this much to package this, It costs 0:56:25.960 --> 0:56:27.800 me this much to do this and the third, and 0:56:27.960 --> 0:56:29.759 you gotta pay yourself a little something. So you've got 0:56:29.880 --> 0:56:32.880 your thing figured out already. You can't afford to give 0:56:32.960 --> 0:56:34.920 somebody just too And Niggers just seem to think, is 0:56:34.960 --> 0:56:37.719 it's a black person selling it, then we're just making 0:56:37.760 --> 0:56:40.280 up our own prices. So USU us making the profit. 0:56:40.360 --> 0:56:42.320 Me go make sure you get extra one. We just 0:56:42.440 --> 0:56:44.600 out here to make sure you straight. It's like we 0:56:44.680 --> 0:56:50.960 need to knock that shi off bro right. And as 0:56:51.040 --> 0:56:54.080 we talk, guess we've been having this just just talking 0:56:55.120 --> 0:56:58.759 do it seems crazy how we how we have to uh, 0:56:59.239 --> 0:57:02.560 the way we talk about nigga or that that's the 0:57:02.640 --> 0:57:08.360 real nigga, that black motherfucker. How we how we identify 0:57:08.440 --> 0:57:11.920 ourselves with each other. I mean, we all black, but 0:57:12.080 --> 0:57:14.960 do a tribute all. Sometimes it do me, but I'm 0:57:15.080 --> 0:57:20.920 comfortable with saying that stupid mother, you know nigga. I 0:57:21.000 --> 0:57:23.160 don't think yet, I don't. I don't know how to 0:57:23.280 --> 0:57:26.880 put it. But the way we the way we introduce 0:57:26.960 --> 0:57:30.360 oselves to certain people, the way we talk are just 0:57:30.560 --> 0:57:35.640 general conversation with each other. You know, it'll make you 0:57:35.760 --> 0:57:40.520 feel like, you know, you're different. Well, I think, Sames, 0:57:40.600 --> 0:57:44.920 we've always had these colloquialisms and it's a little different, 0:57:45.000 --> 0:57:46.520 Like you know when you're the hood. What your friends 0:57:46.560 --> 0:57:48.680 you would say, that's stupid ass nigga, but you don't 0:57:48.680 --> 0:57:50.880 necessarily mean it that way. But I truly believe the 0:57:50.920 --> 0:57:54.360 older I get is I'm starting to really separate. I 0:57:54.680 --> 0:57:56.680 don't want to be called a nigga, first of all, 0:57:56.760 --> 0:58:00.520 because I'm a black man. I work for this ship 0:58:00.640 --> 0:58:02.640 I have. I'm not all trying to get over nobody 0:58:02.640 --> 0:58:05.720 and not respect everyone. Nigga don't respect no motherfucker, but 0:58:05.920 --> 0:58:09.640 they don't even respect itself, right, And I do think 0:58:09.720 --> 0:58:13.160 saying right, I do think we need to be more 0:58:13.360 --> 0:58:16.680 conscious of how we identify ourselves. Right, That's what I 0:58:16.800 --> 0:58:20.760 was trying to say. You know, we can get lost 0:58:21.120 --> 0:58:24.480 if we if if because it's disrespect to each other. 0:58:25.320 --> 0:58:27.640 You know what I'm saying. If I if I just 0:58:27.840 --> 0:58:30.439 met Court, what's up my nigga? You know what I'm saying, 0:58:30.520 --> 0:58:33.760 that's not you know, if we change the narrative on 0:58:33.920 --> 0:58:36.760 how we are with each other and people see that, 0:58:37.400 --> 0:58:40.400 people ain't gonna think like that, you know what I'm saying, 0:58:40.880 --> 0:58:43.480 And it just goes back to everything that we've been 0:58:43.560 --> 0:58:47.960 talking about. So just like with these young cats, they 0:58:48.040 --> 0:58:51.200 got to learn how to groom themselves. They sold their mind, 0:58:51.280 --> 0:58:54.200 their hearts, you know what I'm saying. And I can 0:58:54.240 --> 0:58:58.200 honestly say that if, if, if, you can take a 0:58:58.280 --> 0:59:01.480 bad situation and turn it into good. You know. But 0:59:02.200 --> 0:59:05.400 a lot of kids need to learn patients. You know, 0:59:05.720 --> 0:59:07.680 I didn't have patients when I was younger. I know, 0:59:07.840 --> 0:59:10.040 y'all didn't. You know what I'm saying. We need to 0:59:10.160 --> 0:59:14.160 learn patients. We need to learn day by day. Don't 0:59:14.160 --> 0:59:16.960 try to get everything in one day. You can't get 0:59:17.000 --> 0:59:20.840 it that way. And every day is not promised to us. 0:59:21.200 --> 0:59:23.240 So we gotta live a certain kind of weight every 0:59:23.320 --> 0:59:28.800 day because tomorrow ain't promise and that's a for sure man. 0:59:28.960 --> 0:59:32.560 So you know what, man, I think we all just 0:59:32.680 --> 0:59:34.920 need to just sit back and reflect a little bit, man, 0:59:35.000 --> 0:59:37.360 and just be more like even like James said, the 0:59:37.440 --> 0:59:40.760 way we address each other, because I'm really making it 0:59:40.800 --> 0:59:44.720 a really I'm really making a really consulted effort not 0:59:44.880 --> 0:59:48.280 to use that word right as much because I'm like 0:59:48.400 --> 0:59:50.760 everybody else. You know, you get comfortable with class man, 0:59:50.840 --> 0:59:54.200 it's dumb ass and thinking this and that. Let's start 0:59:54.240 --> 0:59:56.880 acting like black man. Let's start acting like black you know, 0:59:57.000 --> 1:00:00.240 because my thing is this when I'm modem public. I'm 1:00:00.280 --> 1:00:03.280 a representation for y'all too, just like y'all the representation 1:00:03.360 --> 1:00:05.800 for me too. Like folks se y'all acting a certain 1:00:05.880 --> 1:00:08.800 kind of way. Yeah, there's some of them. They already 1:00:08.800 --> 1:00:11.040 got their mind made because they've seen so many of 1:00:11.160 --> 1:00:15.360 us out there misrepresenting man that they think everybody is ignorant, right, 1:00:15.960 --> 1:00:18.560 And that's not the case, man. But I appreciate you 1:00:18.680 --> 1:00:21.040 coming to hold us and don't agree in court y'all. 1:00:21.120 --> 1:00:23.640 Make sure y'all go subscribe to my man show, the 1:00:23.720 --> 1:00:27.120 Holding Court podcast, one of the best podcasts online. You 1:00:27.200 --> 1:00:30.640 know what I'm saying. Appreciate that, ain't I got a 1:00:30.760 --> 1:00:34.440 quick question? Um, just on another note, so I just 1:00:34.560 --> 1:00:38.240 noticed on here we all big right, big still big 1:00:38.400 --> 1:00:41.400 j big court. But I want to tell y'all, man, listen, 1:00:41.440 --> 1:00:44.680 I appreciate y'all ingratiate me and you know, having me 1:00:44.720 --> 1:00:47.040 on the platform. Bro, I got a lot of respect 1:00:47.120 --> 1:00:49.080 for both of y'all. I love what y'all been doing. 1:00:49.960 --> 1:00:52.440 I was, uh and still am a big fan of 1:00:52.520 --> 1:00:54.520 the show, you know, and now to be you know, 1:00:54.680 --> 1:00:57.280 I'm really grateful and honored to be able to be, 1:00:57.720 --> 1:01:00.240 you know, amongst y'all doing this, So I appreciate y'all, 1:01:00.360 --> 1:01:02.000 you know, having me on the shout out to the O. G. 1:01:02.240 --> 1:01:03.960 M c A. You know what I'm saying. You know, 1:01:04.120 --> 1:01:06.320 he's getting his bag doing his thing right now. But 1:01:06.760 --> 1:01:09.400 you know, I appreciate you all, so salute to you. 1:01:09.920 --> 1:01:12.480 You know. Let me join y'all for sure, and we 1:01:12.600 --> 1:01:14.479 got and we gotta and we gotta link the chorus 1:01:14.520 --> 1:01:16.600 show in there, y'all. Make sure y'all subscribe to my 1:01:16.720 --> 1:01:19.120 man stuff. Tell them Big Steals thinks you all right, 1:01:19.840 --> 1:01:24.360 and we out of here. 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