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Speaker 1: Welcome every one to another episode or that cames the
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Speaker 1: for the last few few episodes. Big Core from the
Speaker 1: Holding Core podcast. What's up, brother, what's going on with you, bro.
Speaker 1: Oh man, you know what, man, dutiful man. We above
Speaker 1: the surface man, and we have a lot of conversations offline,
Speaker 1: and one of the things we've been talking about lately
Speaker 1: is this generational divide and much you know, it's like
Speaker 1: the young against the old. You know, not just in
Speaker 1: hip hop music either, but you would see a resonate
Speaker 1: a little bit more in hip hop where you would
Speaker 1: get somebody like a twenty one Savage come out and say, well, Na,
Speaker 1: it's not really relevant. Like that. You have a couple
Speaker 1: other dudes and maybe in their mind, maybe to him,
Speaker 1: NAS is not relevant. M I think sometimes we're a
Speaker 1: little bit too hard on our youth and don't really
Speaker 1: listen to what they're saying. Sometimes everybody needs to stop
Speaker 1: check in everybody's pocket. That's our problem. We were involved
Speaker 1: with the next Man guy, you feel me, so yeah,
Speaker 1: you know, whether he's relevant or not, whether he's bigger
Speaker 1: than him or not, if you're doing good, congratulating Patty
Speaker 1: on the back. We don't do that, man. We don't
Speaker 1: congratulate each other. You know. Everybody want to be on
Speaker 1: the tip. They don't want nobody about them. That's us. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's real. I guess it's always been like that. It's
Speaker 1: the old Willie Land syndrome. You know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: young against old, you know, dark skinned against light skinned.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, educated against uneducated. You know
Speaker 1: that's the that's the age old. Uh divide amongst us
Speaker 1: as a culture, as a race. Yeah, I believe it.
Speaker 1: He is not. Think it's almost inevitably whenever you have
Speaker 1: older people or younger people, this can always be a
Speaker 1: little decide for division. Because this is something that just
Speaker 1: didn't start. You know. I remember at one time the
Speaker 1: hammer Pians was in style, and my mom just couldn't
Speaker 1: understand why I had to have period of motherfucker's you
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. She just didn't get it. But
Speaker 1: I had to have those. I had that, yeah, on
Speaker 1: multiple per and used to go to get I was
Speaker 1: fucking with. I was wearing dickies and ship back then.
Speaker 1: But you know what, But but I will say this,
Speaker 1: though there is a difference at least I'm gonna say
Speaker 1: to my generation, I'm generation x UM. I believe James
Speaker 1: and you y'all might be baby boomers, like almost to
Speaker 1: my generation, I'm not a baby bro don't put that down.
Speaker 1: I don't know. I'm not no baby boomer. Let me see,
Speaker 1: I'll tell you what I am. But because jen jen
Speaker 1: X starts at what let me see I think right now,
Speaker 1: you know what I might be thinking? Malent? Yeah, because
Speaker 1: gen X is up to nineteen eighties, so it might
Speaker 1: be sixty five to eighty or something like that. Right,
Speaker 1: probably we us this crap Americas between born betwe when
Speaker 1: next to bro? Okay? All right, so yeah, so y'all
Speaker 1: both generation next I think James might be. But regardless,
Speaker 1: our generation, we um man we we man. We we
Speaker 1: worshiped our O G s. And especially with music, think
Speaker 1: about us doing music in the eighties and the nineties.
Speaker 1: We sampled all their records. We we name dropped them,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. If we met him, we
Speaker 1: was fans, you know what I mean, Like we really
Speaker 1: we really respected the ones that came before us. But
Speaker 1: now it's a different culture. These young niggas they think
Speaker 1: that everything started with them. They think that everything before
Speaker 1: them is obsolete. It's old. It don't means ship, it
Speaker 1: ain't ship. And I don't know where that came from,
Speaker 1: because my generation wasn't like that. Like we love George
Speaker 1: Clinton and Funkadelic and you know, even me growing up
Speaker 1: on Ghetto Boys and and in the West Coast Cuban
Speaker 1: w even the East Coast Cats, you know what I mean,
Speaker 1: Big Daddy Kane and all them them niggas was like
Speaker 1: gods to us. We read did their songs and everything.
Speaker 1: So certainly revered, yeah, revered absolutely, But now it's like,
Speaker 1: you know, when when the conversation has had, you know,
Speaker 1: it's in a more of a a pejorative, you know
Speaker 1: type fashion where it's always negative. All them niggas ain't
Speaker 1: eating them niggas ain't gotten nothing. Them niggas is old,
Speaker 1: but they don't realize that one day ship especially in
Speaker 1: rap years. You oh, by the time you're thirty, you
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. So you niggas do know that
Speaker 1: you're going to get older one day and you're gonna
Speaker 1: want people to respect what you accomplishing, what you brought
Speaker 1: to the table. So I don't know, bro, You know,
Speaker 1: they used to bother me at one time, court, but
Speaker 1: I think as you get older, you get more mature. Yeah,
Speaker 1: And I kind of just let up in these junctures
Speaker 1: and I just tell them keep on living, absolutely, keep
Speaker 1: on living, you know, unless and then that's the thing too. Man.
Speaker 1: I just think that it's almost sad when you look
Speaker 1: at It's almost like we are preconfisient to believe that
Speaker 1: once you hit the age of thirty is a black
Speaker 1: man you old C've been called me what's up? Oc?
Speaker 1: Since I was thirty years old? Bro, that's crazy. And
Speaker 1: thirty is young. Thirty young, so super young, you know, thirty, Yeah,
Speaker 1: for sure. And I believe that these kids, James, they're
Speaker 1: just automatically embedded to where they're gonna die by a
Speaker 1: certain age. I think they are. I think they're just
Speaker 1: going to be just anticipated deaf. I mean, what do
Speaker 1: you think? What what you go ahead? Jack? I think
Speaker 1: I think were down at the early age when I
Speaker 1: was coming up because I've lost a lot of a
Speaker 1: lot of friends. Uh and the early part of eighties,
Speaker 1: mid eighties, a lot of people was getting killed. We
Speaker 1: lost a lot of people all over. So, you know,
Speaker 1: I said it once before, history just repeats itself with
Speaker 1: us looking at our big homies, then our little homies
Speaker 1: looking at us, and now the respect level is just
Speaker 1: played out, you know what I'm saying, And every every
Speaker 1: generation gets worse and worser because look at look at
Speaker 1: my generation, I'm older, not around, and look at the
Speaker 1: cats that's there now, they bear now because the US
Speaker 1: is gone and the younger cats are not respecting those guys.
Speaker 1: So with them saying that their generation, the next generation
Speaker 1: under there is coming, is growing up and they're not
Speaker 1: respecting them. So every year, every generation that changed, and
Speaker 1: it's getting worse and worser, and it's going to be
Speaker 1: a point where just all watered down to a point
Speaker 1: where there's I mean, we just don't care no more,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. And and we gotta stop
Speaker 1: blaming everybody else and start blaming ourselves to a certain extent,
Speaker 1: because if if if somebody, if if us, look at
Speaker 1: look how they speak on um, the Muslims, how they
Speaker 1: are with each other, that's how we should be in
Speaker 1: general period. We should need that way. But we're not,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, because we got we got
Speaker 1: older cats such as my age still participating and feeding
Speaker 1: the bs. We we got the rap music is when
Speaker 1: way off the off the charts with the disrespect, you
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. So you see social media, how
Speaker 1: everybody is going at each other. You see grown men
Speaker 1: sitting here arguing, talking like women like like, going back
Speaker 1: and forth. So we're not we're not teaching our our
Speaker 1: kids kids to what they should see. You know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. Our young women is watching loving hip hop
Speaker 1: and that's all you see is black strong women fighting.
Speaker 1: So it don't matter if you're rich or not. This
Speaker 1: is what it's about or if you make it. How
Speaker 1: can I be a millionaire and hating them? The next
Speaker 1: cat coming up, the next brother, you know, climbing the ladder,
Speaker 1: And that's what we see today are the people that
Speaker 1: should be in position to change and doing it. They're
Speaker 1: promoting well, right, James, And that's what I was going
Speaker 1: to say. You know, I listened to these young kids, right,
Speaker 1: and I really pay attention to them. I'm making my
Speaker 1: business to know what they got on their mind, right,
Speaker 1: So I don't think we're really giving them a lot
Speaker 1: of I don't think we're given them monks to really
Speaker 1: look up to, because, like James said, the biggest clowns
Speaker 1: online are guys that are over the age of forty five.
Speaker 1: Let let that just process a little bit. And there's
Speaker 1: people you don't see no Mexicans on there like that.
Speaker 1: You don't see people on there like that. You don't
Speaker 1: see no white folks on there like that. It's always us.
Speaker 1: You see a bunch of dudes that look like there's
Speaker 1: somebody's grandfather, and these cats all older than me, and
Speaker 1: I'm looking at them like, Wow, you're all really up
Speaker 1: there playing your stuff like that right now? Yeah, it's
Speaker 1: like for them, CPM has got some of these dudes
Speaker 1: are here really just and you can it about it still.
Speaker 1: You know, like, I know a lot of these niggas
Speaker 1: ain't eating like that because the content it's so vitriolic,
Speaker 1: it's so you know what I'm saying, acrimonious. You know,
Speaker 1: they're not getting ads like that. You know, they ship
Speaker 1: getting nan and everything, so they're not even really eating
Speaker 1: like that. But you know, I really don't know what
Speaker 1: that's related to, Bro, because you're right, I don't even
Speaker 1: see the younger generation in terms of using social media
Speaker 1: to down each other and clown each other and try
Speaker 1: to find dirt. That's some old beauty shop ship. Like
Speaker 1: I can't participate in that. That's ship. Sound like that's
Speaker 1: why me personally, Bro, I've never watched reality shows. You know,
Speaker 1: I don't look at gossip sites because to me, that
Speaker 1: ship feels feminine. It feels feminine to be talking about
Speaker 1: what Nigga is sleeping with who and how much money
Speaker 1: and Nigga got, you know, and looking at my mind
Speaker 1: don't work like that. But it's almost like social media.
Speaker 1: It's a gift and a curse, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: It's a gift and a curse. Like social media is
Speaker 1: creating some monsters, you know what I mean, And it's
Speaker 1: giving motherfucker's egos that they don't have in real life,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. Motherfucker get online and just
Speaker 1: turn into anybody they want to be. Nigga could be
Speaker 1: a stepper. Nigga's trying to recreate history on social media
Speaker 1: because you're lying to a bunch of people that know
Speaker 1: don't know you. You know. It's supposed to be entertainment,
Speaker 1: but that's but that's us though. I mean, let's call
Speaker 1: it what it is. Man As Niggas being niggas. Niggas
Speaker 1: will funk up anything and misuse anything. You know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. Um, manniggas will do niggas ship niggas and
Speaker 1: flies bro niggas can't stay out of ship for ship.
Speaker 1: So at some point accountability, man, just with how we
Speaker 1: do each other, you know what I mean? Like all
Speaker 1: this ship is crazy. Still I think about it often,
Speaker 1: and I always think about solutions. I don't want to
Speaker 1: be a person that's always so hypercritical but but can't
Speaker 1: offer a solution, you know what I mean exactly, you know,
Speaker 1: And that's why I didn't want to. Just my intent
Speaker 1: is never to come in and go off on the youngsters.
Speaker 1: How about that type, because like from the music they make,
Speaker 1: they're making stuff for them. I shouldn't like they music
Speaker 1: with I mess with what they're doing. And I'm like, man,
Speaker 1: you know, because I'm like listening, what's new, what's coming
Speaker 1: up next? Especially when you're a person that's so called
Speaker 1: love hip hop? You know, I don't have my legs
Speaker 1: in my hip hop. I like, you know, I'm here
Speaker 1: to the Playboy CARDI Kat. I like him. I like
Speaker 1: it's some NBA young boy stuff. I'm hip top Kevin Love,
Speaker 1: Kevin Gates. I'm a big Kevin Days fans. It was well, Um,
Speaker 1: I just think, man, we're not giving these guys much
Speaker 1: to go off. But then I'm gonna go back to
Speaker 1: something right, mm hmm. You know one thing I do
Speaker 1: respect about the New York Cats. You would never hear
Speaker 1: nothing the come up their mom to talk bad about
Speaker 1: Big Daddy, came to talk bad about cool she wrapped.
Speaker 1: They just won't do it. They revered their people. Roll
Speaker 1: me land on something real quick, especially with rock and roll, right, yes,
Speaker 1: especially with rock and roll. Mick Jagger and the Rolling Stones.
Speaker 1: They and they setings out there still getting it. And
Speaker 1: guess what, you can hear every young rock and roll
Speaker 1: person give it up to them. They're gonna say, I
Speaker 1: look up to them, my love him, And when you
Speaker 1: go to their conscience, you will see young people there too.
Speaker 1: Now go ahead say you say, like, my apologies, I
Speaker 1: didn't mean to interrupt you, But what I was gonna
Speaker 1: say is I agree with that to an extent, because
Speaker 1: from what I can see from my vantage point that
Speaker 1: the thing bro, these young niggas don't want to know
Speaker 1: their history. They don't say nothing about them because they
Speaker 1: don't know about it. They don't know who they are.
Speaker 1: Because because you gotta think about it, it's some of
Speaker 1: some of our my generation get mad at at young
Speaker 1: niggas because they don't know Tupac. They don't know Biggie.
Speaker 1: But respectfully, you have to understand a lot of these
Speaker 1: niggas was born after Tupac was dead and Biggie was dead,
Speaker 1: you know, So to them, young thug is they o
Speaker 1: g you know what I mean, Like niggas like that,
Speaker 1: So they're not like how we were, you know, like me,
Speaker 1: I listened to VARs and confunction. I like the old
Speaker 1: ship that was before me, you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: Like I was interested in that. But now with technology,
Speaker 1: you know, they just feel like everything is now, it's
Speaker 1: so instant, so there's really no appreciation for history. So
Speaker 1: some of why you don't hear them niggas talking about
Speaker 1: them because they just don't know who they are. Ask
Speaker 1: a young nigga from New York, Kudi Rabbit. You know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, a lot of them, A lot of
Speaker 1: them don't know, Bro, They really don't know. And and
Speaker 1: so I can't get mad at them necessarily, right, I
Speaker 1: can't get mad. But me to me, if you're an artist, right,
Speaker 1: you're gonna go back and study Van Going all those people, right,
Speaker 1: you would think you would think you would go back
Speaker 1: and study Van Go. I knew, I would. I knew,
Speaker 1: I would you feel what I'm saying, I knew, I knew. Like, man,
Speaker 1: it ain't nothing about hip hop that you can't ask
Speaker 1: me that I don't know. And see, this ain't so
Speaker 1: much about hip hop right now, man, this is just
Speaker 1: about just life in general. If you asked you, if
Speaker 1: you ask a younger cat today, who um Jesse Jackson Neils,
Speaker 1: who Jesse Jackson was, who Martin Luther King was? Outside
Speaker 1: of them too, they probably can't tell you nothing about
Speaker 1: no shape but very or nothing like somebody because they
Speaker 1: don't know, don't They barely knew about them too, and
Speaker 1: them they don't really give a funk. You know, I'm
Speaker 1: gonna tell you something that really triped me out. I
Speaker 1: was talking to my daughter one day. You know, we
Speaker 1: just right and he now we with our kids, we
Speaker 1: always trying to make small talk, right. I was telling her, like, hey,
Speaker 1: you know, just the soldiers and what comes are really
Speaker 1: based on a really a female army that was really
Speaker 1: strong in Africa and they fall off the French for
Speaker 1: like four the years. She said, Dad, I don't really
Speaker 1: care all that. Why just like that, like I don't
Speaker 1: like why like why do I care, like I don't care,
Speaker 1: and I thought that would be interesting. Yeah, but yeah,
Speaker 1: she said, Man, I ain't dripping off of that stuff.
Speaker 1: That episode wasn't wn't running around e jungle fighting, and
Speaker 1: I was like, damn, you don't care. So so dig
Speaker 1: is still so even with that statement though, that's the
Speaker 1: difference in generation. We couldn't even fix our mouth to
Speaker 1: say that ship. Back then, we just acted like we
Speaker 1: gave a funk, you know, even though we like, I
Speaker 1: don't care about this ship. It was oh yes, ma'am,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. Oh for real, you know
Speaker 1: you you couldn't even fix your mouth to even act
Speaker 1: like you didn't care, you know. So that just that's
Speaker 1: the you know the difference with this generation, bro, you
Speaker 1: know what I mean, Like they don't really uh, you know,
Speaker 1: respect a whole lot or or or I don't know.
Speaker 1: I think it's technology, bro, I think technology is really
Speaker 1: what funk this ship up, to be honest with you,
Speaker 1: because I've even talked to youngsters and my kids, and
Speaker 1: they do they think because they have access to YouTube
Speaker 1: and Google, they feel like, oh, the information is right there,
Speaker 1: not understanding that some of the ship you land on
Speaker 1: was written by motherfucker's. That hell, they don't know what
Speaker 1: the hell they talk about. It's just they you know,
Speaker 1: it's just their opinion. So you know, you could be
Speaker 1: subscribing and taking on some ship by motherfucker. This as
Speaker 1: dumb as you, but because you looked it up and
Speaker 1: they got a website, you take it as law. But
Speaker 1: you know, but you know how they say, man, the
Speaker 1: Bible say it, bro profit is not respected in his home?
Speaker 1: You know, he ever noticed how we can say some
Speaker 1: ship to our kids and the going one year after
Speaker 1: other niga say something to him. It's like it became
Speaker 1: all the time. It's like and I'm telling them, like,
Speaker 1: there's no money in this world. Is going to give
Speaker 1: a funk about you? Like I give a funk about you? Right,
Speaker 1: But you would rather going to listen to these other
Speaker 1: motherfucker's than me telling you something. And it's like it's long.
Speaker 1: Somebody tell she was right, and they treat me all
Speaker 1: you for real, boy, what a revelation. I was actually right.
Speaker 1: I actually know what the funk I'm talking about them. Hey,
Speaker 1: sometimes you know you gotta let life kick these these
Speaker 1: youngsters in the ash. You know what I'm saying, because
Speaker 1: nothing gonna hit harder than life, nothing's gonna talk louder
Speaker 1: than experience, you know what I'm saying. But like back
Speaker 1: to the generational divide though, um, you know, I don't know.
Speaker 1: I mean, let me ask you, big Jake, do you
Speaker 1: think that we Do you think we failed? Do you
Speaker 1: think we failed them? Do you think your generation failed us?
Speaker 1: My generation and in essence ship we felt the youngsters. Now.
Speaker 1: I to be honest, I think every generation failed each
Speaker 1: other because the generation before me, that's say they failed me.
Speaker 1: I had the homies, I had people that rooted me
Speaker 1: on with I get down, and a lot of people
Speaker 1: praising to get down, opposed to man, cut this ship out.
Speaker 1: Go to school, man, what you're doing hanging out in
Speaker 1: the hallway, Go get in class. So I think we
Speaker 1: we all let each other down because we'll be we'll
Speaker 1: be HYPOCRISTI I we sit up here and say, it's
Speaker 1: this generation, PAULM. We as black man, has been sucking
Speaker 1: up from the beginning, you know what I'm saying, And
Speaker 1: we still haven't caught on to where we're supposed to
Speaker 1: go and where we should be. So we all we
Speaker 1: we all dropped the ball and and the cold part
Speaker 1: about it is is you only have a handful of
Speaker 1: black men, strong black men trying to uplift these young cats,
Speaker 1: trying to teach them and show them. You got a
Speaker 1: lot of guys on some of their platforms teaching kids.
Speaker 1: I believe we we we can be a double as sword.
Speaker 1: We can't say I'm praising the kids, I'm helping the kids.
Speaker 1: I'm an activist. But you out here on some other
Speaker 1: whole different ship, disrespecting black women and the whole line. So, yeah, bro,
Speaker 1: we we have leedy. We have let ourselves down for
Speaker 1: a long time. Nobody really came with a solution to
Speaker 1: say how we can fix us. And if we don't
Speaker 1: do that, I guarantee you two thousand and we're gonna
Speaker 1: be lost. It ain't gonna matter if a black man
Speaker 1: got money, it ain't gonna matter because we're gonna try
Speaker 1: to get what that black man got. We ain't gonna
Speaker 1: try to go rib the white man. We're gonna rob
Speaker 1: each other because we think that's the safe place to
Speaker 1: do it. We were better off doing our doing ourselves,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. So if we don't kill
Speaker 1: each other off by it's over. Bro. If if these
Speaker 1: guys that got these platforms, these men that that's around
Speaker 1: a lot of kids, these coaches and everybody else don't
Speaker 1: step their game up us if we don't step our
Speaker 1: game up and and really for mode saving kids we
Speaker 1: asked out and that's playing an uncut Yeah. So yeah,
Speaker 1: we gotta step letting each other down, brother, you know.
Speaker 1: And a big part of that too is, um, we
Speaker 1: don't do things to be genuine no more. Everybody always
Speaker 1: has an ankle. Nobody just goes out their way to
Speaker 1: do stuff for the community. Because I remember when I
Speaker 1: ran my youth football program. I actually spent a lot
Speaker 1: of my own money. I had a bunch of kids
Speaker 1: playing in the program that was there for free. But
Speaker 1: I knew I couldn't just kick them dudes in the street.
Speaker 1: They come up, they want to play football. There was
Speaker 1: always like, okay, let me try to figure out a
Speaker 1: way that these dudes can play. You know, one year,
Speaker 1: my man top Dog, you know, shout out to my
Speaker 1: boy top with t V. He gave some money towards
Speaker 1: you know, the look he is playing one year, which
Speaker 1: was real cool. You know what I'm saying. What's real cool?
Speaker 1: When I reached out to him for that he made happen.
Speaker 1: But we don't have people out there. The guys that
Speaker 1: are really out there man, trying to actually be something
Speaker 1: to the youth are few and far between. That would
Speaker 1: always have to be some form for a lot of
Speaker 1: cats out there. Them getting the trophy. I'll tell him,
Speaker 1: I saying, man, y'all here every year, go through all
Speaker 1: this stuff just to get this little fifty dollar trophy
Speaker 1: at the MT year to say, y'all want the super Bowl,
Speaker 1: like y'all the ability check or something. They want to
Speaker 1: be competitive, They want to be they want to be
Speaker 1: relevant themselves, and not thinking that it's for the kids.
Speaker 1: You know, when you see these kids playing football at school,
Speaker 1: the parents is in the beach. You're fighting. Come on,
Speaker 1: what are we what are we teaching them? We're showing
Speaker 1: them something totally different. And and I can honestly say this,
Speaker 1: I lived that ship. I know what what different is
Speaker 1: opposed to living? Right, you know what I'm saying or
Speaker 1: from what I've seen it, don't intention to buy my situation.
Speaker 1: This is what I want to be. We gotta take
Speaker 1: that mind frame from our kids. You don't want to
Speaker 1: be like that, right, I tell everybody you don't want
Speaker 1: to be like a mob James. You don't want to
Speaker 1: be like, uh, a twokey. You don't want to be
Speaker 1: like those those guys, you know what I'm saying. You know,
Speaker 1: they did something for the for our game culture. Those
Speaker 1: guys were somebody in our gang culture. But let's teach
Speaker 1: our kids how to live, you know what I'm saying
Speaker 1: in a real kind of way. So we know that
Speaker 1: us as as black people, we're not a monolist and
Speaker 1: I think that, you know, just like the music, I
Speaker 1: think it lacks balance, you know what I'm saying. Um,
Speaker 1: But as it comes to like what what what Jay
Speaker 1: is saying, there are people out there that are doing
Speaker 1: great things and positive things, you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: But for whatever reason, the media that's not appealing to
Speaker 1: the masses. They don't want to see that. You know,
Speaker 1: the media don't push that because I think that people
Speaker 1: are followers by nature, people as sheep right. So imagine
Speaker 1: if the young rappers and the people that that had influence.
Speaker 1: Imagine if they were talking positive. Imagine if the rappers
Speaker 1: started rapping about ship that they wanted to see. We
Speaker 1: all know how it is in the hood. We know
Speaker 1: it's fucked up. We know what that life is like.
Speaker 1: But now let's talk about if you change that narrative
Speaker 1: talking about you want to see niggas win, you want
Speaker 1: to live, you know, instead of that's drill and let's
Speaker 1: let's kill. Let's step man, let's live, let's get to
Speaker 1: some money, let's raise our kids. That ship could still
Speaker 1: sound dope, right, So niggas gotta make the positive ship.
Speaker 1: I mean, it's it's that easy, the same way we
Speaker 1: came up with the negative ship. Think about it. It
Speaker 1: went from the sixties seventies disco. Remember, everything was about love.
Speaker 1: Everything was about court and abroad and getting some you
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, getting some love and some masks
Speaker 1: and you know, hey, sexy, I don't want to take
Speaker 1: you out and all of that. Then it just went
Speaker 1: to funk a bit, don't with my niggas all day. Well,
Speaker 1: you know, one thing I remember, man, that my of
Speaker 1: me coming up is that the men I did have
Speaker 1: in my life were always men like. And I thought
Speaker 1: about that one day. I said, well, maybe we didn't
Speaker 1: have social media. Fact, then maybe it was it's always
Speaker 1: been a bunch of dumb ass old niggas. But then
Speaker 1: I thought about it, but then I thought about it.
Speaker 1: I have never meant nobody to act like these dudes.
Speaker 1: Have you, James, think about think about think I think
Speaker 1: about it. Have you ever been a foolish as old man? Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: I have to. I have to. But the difference was
Speaker 1: is it's almost like the junkie ship we was talking
Speaker 1: about right back in the day, if a nigga played
Speaker 1: with his nose and did some ship, he knew uncool.
Speaker 1: He kept it a secret, he didn't broadcast it. Right.
Speaker 1: So even back in the day, you had niggas in
Speaker 1: the church, you had you know, niggas with whole families
Speaker 1: that had other families across town. But they carried themselves
Speaker 1: with a certain coup, you know what I'm saying. That's
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. So I'm not saying that they are
Speaker 1: you know, above, you know, are infallible. They you know,
Speaker 1: they was bullshit. Had been around since since the beginning
Speaker 1: of the time. You know, motherfucker's has always been on bullshit.
Speaker 1: But it's like back in the day, like even when
Speaker 1: the nigger went to the pin. When I was growing up,
Speaker 1: if an uncle went to the pin, they just said
Speaker 1: he went down south with other family. You know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. It wasn't a thing like oh yeah ship
Speaker 1: you know hor me sitting down, whoo whoo whoa Because
Speaker 1: think about it, we celebrate when the nigga come home
Speaker 1: after doing ten more than we do when a person
Speaker 1: graduated college college, that's what I chelled. My grandson where
Speaker 1: his you know his problems? Yeah, how to stay working?
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. And I don't see his
Speaker 1: mind with Oh my dad and Jim, You're not gonna
Speaker 1: go to school to ever make that statement. You know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. If the kids say where your father? No,
Speaker 1: you never so you know they was out. They was
Speaker 1: out to stay working. But when like what you were
Speaker 1: saying earlier, if if, if reppers changed their message and
Speaker 1: their music, kids won't have a choice because they're flowing
Speaker 1: off the beat already and if they're listening to it,
Speaker 1: you're recondition in their minds to say, Okay, I can
Speaker 1: do this now. If you see young black men dressed
Speaker 1: up sharp with a tie on, the next one gonna
Speaker 1: want to be like that too. That's flying. Yeah. You
Speaker 1: know we don't see that. We don't see our our
Speaker 1: young today in the suit. They think it's hey, they
Speaker 1: think it's bullshit, right right, even if even if you
Speaker 1: think about balance, bro, like you know, I listen, I'm
Speaker 1: not gonna be a hypocrite. I like some gangster ship.
Speaker 1: I like some ship with the edge. But even back
Speaker 1: in the day, think about it, bro, One of the
Speaker 1: most memorable songs was what will Smith Fresh print Summertime.
Speaker 1: I'm still my favorite. You know what I'm saying. And
Speaker 1: back then, you have balance, You had kids and play,
Speaker 1: you had uh you know, young MC, you have balance.
Speaker 1: You still had the gangster ship, but you have balance
Speaker 1: now everybody, I mean, with exception to Kendrick J. Cole,
Speaker 1: I mean you can count on one hand. You know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. Everybody a stepper. Everybody life fucked up,
Speaker 1: everybody got it out the mud, everybody got bodies, everybody selling,
Speaker 1: everybody Pablo Escobar, you know what I'm saying. So you know,
Speaker 1: and the youngsters are impressionable. And I used to defend
Speaker 1: this is the thing I could be. I'm gonna be transparent,
Speaker 1: right because I was a rapper. I signed with No
Speaker 1: Limit Records in I was a gangster rapper and I
Speaker 1: was living that ship too. I made excuses I did.
Speaker 1: I made it. I didn't get it. I had to
Speaker 1: grow a little bit, but I made excuses for the
Speaker 1: music being as influential as it was, Like I would
Speaker 1: just be like his music. Bro, this is just mute,
Speaker 1: you know, I said to all the rapper ship. But
Speaker 1: once I got older, I looked back on some of
Speaker 1: my own experiences and I had Cebow on my show recently.
Speaker 1: I even told C Bow. I said, C Bow, I said, Man,
Speaker 1: I gotta tell you, Bro, your your music got me
Speaker 1: and some ship. I said, I was listening to one
Speaker 1: of your songs. I turned my gangster up. You know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. When the song came up, I end
Speaker 1: up getting into a shootout. You know. But I wonder
Speaker 1: if if I wasn't playing that song, I probably would
Speaker 1: have got my ass on, you know what I'm saying
Speaker 1: and just went about my business. So I had to
Speaker 1: be honest with myself to say, even me as a
Speaker 1: strong wheel mature, you know, young adult. I was always
Speaker 1: mature beyond my years and I knew better, but even
Speaker 1: still it influenced my mood, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: Just like something when I can listen to summertime, when
Speaker 1: I listened to Summertime. I feel good. You know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. I feel like ship. You know, like man,
Speaker 1: life is good, you know what I mean. But ship
Speaker 1: I put on I put on some gangster ship. You know.
Speaker 1: I even shout out to m c A. You know
Speaker 1: what I mean. I put on some old school eight
Speaker 1: music to drive by. I'm on some bullshit, you know
Speaker 1: my attitude Ship. But all that stuff. I want to
Speaker 1: read this letter, man, Man, it has never been debunked
Speaker 1: as being a false letter. I really believe this is real, man,
Speaker 1: because you've gotta understand this hip hop is a big
Speaker 1: gangster rap music turned to a multi billion dollar industry broke.
Speaker 1: Some of that is systemic because look at the people
Speaker 1: that still I'm gonna read. I'm I'm gonna read something
Speaker 1: to y'all real quick. After more than twenty years, I
Speaker 1: finally decided to tell the world what I witnessed, the
Speaker 1: which I believe was one of the biggest turning points
Speaker 1: in popular music and ultimately American society. I struggled for
Speaker 1: a long time winning the pros and kinds of making
Speaker 1: the story of public as I was reluctant to implicate
Speaker 1: the individuals who were present that day, So I simply
Speaker 1: decided to leave our names and all the details that
Speaker 1: may risk my personal well being and that of those
Speaker 1: who were like me dragging something they weren't ready for.
Speaker 1: Between the late eighties and early nineties, I was what
Speaker 1: you may call a decision maker, was one of the
Speaker 1: more established companies in the music industry. I came from
Speaker 1: Europe in the early eighties and quickly established myself in
Speaker 1: the business. The industry was different back then, since technology
Speaker 1: and media weren't accessible to people like they are to day.
Speaker 1: The industry had more control over the public and had
Speaker 1: the means to influence them anyway it wanted. This may
Speaker 1: explain why in early I was invited to attend a
Speaker 1: closed door meeting with a small group of music business
Speaker 1: insiders to discuss rap music's new direction. Little did I
Speaker 1: know we would be asked to participate in one of
Speaker 1: the most unethical and destructive business practices I've ever seen.
Speaker 1: The meeting was held at a private residence on our
Speaker 1: skirts of Los Angeles. I remember about twenty five or
Speaker 1: thirty people being there, most of them familiar faces. Speaking
Speaker 1: to those I knew. We joked about the theme with
Speaker 1: a meeting as many of us did not care for
Speaker 1: rap music and failed to see the purpose of being
Speaker 1: invited to a party gathering to discuss this future. Among
Speaker 1: the attendees was a small group of unfamiliar faces who
Speaker 1: stayed to themselves and made a new attempt to socialize
Speaker 1: beyond the circle. Based on their behavior and formal appearances,
Speaker 1: they didn't seem to be in our industry. Our casual
Speaker 1: chatter was interrupted when we were asked to sign the
Speaker 1: confidentiality agreement, preventing us from discuss us and publicly The
Speaker 1: information presented during the meeting. Needless to say, disintrigued and
Speaker 1: in some cases disturbed many of us. The agreement was
Speaker 1: only a page long, but very clear on the matter
Speaker 1: and consequences, which stated that violating the terms were resulting
Speaker 1: job termination. We asked several people what this meeting was
Speaker 1: about and the reason for such secrecy, but couldn't find
Speaker 1: anyone who had answers for us. A few people refused
Speaker 1: the sign and walked out. No one stopped them. I
Speaker 1: was tempted to follow up, a curiosity got the best
Speaker 1: of me. A man who was part of the unfamiliar
Speaker 1: group collected the agreements from us quickly, After the meeting began,
Speaker 1: one of my industry colleagues, who share remain nameless like
Speaker 1: everyone else, thanked us for attending. He then gave the
Speaker 1: floor to a man who only introduced himself by first
Speaker 1: name and gave no further details about his personal background.
Speaker 1: I think he was the owner of the residence, but
Speaker 1: it was never confirmed. He briefly praised all of us
Speaker 1: for the success we had achieved in our industry and
Speaker 1: congratulated us with being selected as part of this small
Speaker 1: group of decision may pers. At this point I began
Speaker 1: to feel slightly uncomfortable at the strangeness of this gathering.
Speaker 1: The subject was changed. The speaker went on to tell
Speaker 1: us that the respective companies we represented had invested in
Speaker 1: a very profitable industry which could become even more rewarding
Speaker 1: with our active involvement. He explained that the companies we
Speaker 1: worked for had vested medians into the building of privately
Speaker 1: owned prisons, and that our positions of influence in the
Speaker 1: music industry would actually impact the profitability of these investments.
Speaker 1: I remember many of us in the group immediately looking
Speaker 1: at each other in confusion. At the time, I didn't
Speaker 1: know what the private prison was but I wasn't the
Speaker 1: only one. Sure enough, someone asked what the prisons were
Speaker 1: and where any of this had to do with us.
Speaker 1: We were told that these prisons were built by privately
Speaker 1: owned companies who received funding from the government based on
Speaker 1: the number of indemates. The more inmates, the more money
Speaker 1: the government would pay these prisons. It was also made
Speaker 1: clear to us that since these prisons are privately owned,
Speaker 1: if they become publicly traded, we be able to buy shares.
Speaker 1: Most of us were taken back by this. Again, a
Speaker 1: couple of people asked what this had to do with us.
Speaker 1: At this point, my industry colleague, who had first opened
Speaker 1: the meeting, took the floor again and answered our questions.
Speaker 1: He told us that since our employers have become solid
Speaker 1: investors in this prison business, it was now in their
Speaker 1: inswest to make sure that these prisons for main field.
Speaker 1: Our job would be to help make this happen by
Speaker 1: marketing music which the most criminal behavior, rap being the
Speaker 1: music of choice. He assured us that this would be
Speaker 1: a great situation for us because rap music was becoming
Speaker 1: an increasingly profitable market for our companies, and as an employee,
Speaker 1: we'd also be able to buy personal stocks in these prisons.
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna go through this whole letter man, but
Speaker 1: based on the stuff that we've been seeing as a
Speaker 1: late man, based on some of the stuff we've been
Speaker 1: I think it's very plausible that that could have been
Speaker 1: a real meeting, Bro. I mean it sounds plausible. I
Speaker 1: mean because they didn't necessarily name names and get specific.
Speaker 1: I mean, that could have been written by anybody. But
Speaker 1: it is definitely plausible, Bro. And and it doesn't sound
Speaker 1: far from the truth. I mean, it seems like it
Speaker 1: happened just like that. Well, you know, if you think
Speaker 1: about it, think about think about crack for example, right,
Speaker 1: think about how in our community. Yeah, sure, why couldn't
Speaker 1: they do the same thing with the music, because like
Speaker 1: that's even been able to brow The tongue speaks life
Speaker 1: and death. You read with you, So if you talk
Speaker 1: about death in destruction, if you're constantly putting off this
Speaker 1: just a deafinite destruction, the chaos, I'm walking around with
Speaker 1: my stick, I'm walking around with my boat. You hear,
Speaker 1: that's the ship that's gonna go platinumf you make this,
Speaker 1: make the song that they're talking about. I Love my
Speaker 1: brothers and this man man, you didn't go to go Wood, right,
Speaker 1: and you can put it in the same cadence because
Speaker 1: I heard gospel music. It sounds like secular music, you
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. And it was until I rode
Speaker 1: in on the lyrics like damn, you're talking about Jesus.
Speaker 1: I thought this was you know what I'm saying, Jody
Speaker 1: see you know so um I mean, but like you said, yeah,
Speaker 1: it all feels like a conspiracy. Bro. They give us
Speaker 1: the tools to destroy ourselves. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: We got guns, we got you know, systemic issues, we
Speaker 1: got you know, I'm not gonna say necessarily lack of
Speaker 1: opportunity at this point, but we have to fight a
Speaker 1: little bit harder to get the information and to get
Speaker 1: in position. Um uh. You know, people got you know,
Speaker 1: people lose hope, you got drugs, you got guns. Then
Speaker 1: you have this this culture, this this you know, this
Speaker 1: very powerful influential culture that's that's telling you. You know,
Speaker 1: Fox school, you know what I mean, Like trap, go scam.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, Go go break a bit,
Speaker 1: you know, go rob a nigga. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: And you got in the same thing for the young ladies,
Speaker 1: you know, fuck getting the education, fun, getting married, you know,
Speaker 1: be fuck nigga, free fucking nigga. You know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: Get you a get you a rich nigga and break him.
Speaker 1: You know, sell it, don't give it for free. So
Speaker 1: now you've got them raising prostitutes basically. So, um, it's crazy,
Speaker 1: just how we And again I don't want to sound
Speaker 1: hyper critical, but um, I think because I understand the
Speaker 1: context of entertainment, but the entertainment is killing us. You know,
Speaker 1: we are the entertainment. We are the entertainment you know
Speaker 1: to the overall majority, you know, and they're profited off
Speaker 1: of it more than we are. That's just and and
Speaker 1: and you know, again, I don't want to be a
Speaker 1: hypocrite because I enjoyed some of the ship, but I
Speaker 1: just think that when we start trying to live it out,
Speaker 1: that's the problem. It's one thing for it to be entertainment,
Speaker 1: but because you've got to think about it, rock and
Speaker 1: roll and acid wrapping all that stuff. You had hardcore,
Speaker 1: other genres that were hardcore, but their fan base wasn't
Speaker 1: living that out. You know, they wasn't going out flattering
Speaker 1: you know, sacrificing whatever the A. C. D. C's of
Speaker 1: the world was doing. But we're actually living this ship out,
Speaker 1: so you know, I don't know, Yeah, we're actually living
Speaker 1: this stuff out big time throw in when you think
Speaker 1: about it, like like like really just think about it, right,
Speaker 1: the influence that music has over just a side now
Speaker 1: and our children. Right, you had kids in the suburbs,
Speaker 1: man whose parents have worked hard to get him up
Speaker 1: out of there. The first thing they wanted to go
Speaker 1: do when he heard in the w A was, Man,
Speaker 1: I want to go to content. I want to go
Speaker 1: see what the hell is going on down there? You
Speaker 1: think what I'm saying. So it's it's very enticing, dog like,
Speaker 1: like the Games of Lifestyle is very enticeing and attracted
Speaker 1: to a person looking in on the outside of it, right,
Speaker 1: you know. But you you think about it, man, we're
Speaker 1: losing our young people at an alarming rate. It's very
Speaker 1: to me, it's a it's a very concentrated effort man,
Speaker 1: to just get rid of Black America at all costs,
Speaker 1: it seems like to me. And if people can't see that,
Speaker 1: they vision blurry, because I'm gonna tell you what they
Speaker 1: want to do. They want to keep us stuck with
Speaker 1: these just images on televion. You know, these just negative
Speaker 1: images were constantly being fed our own imagery back. So
Speaker 1: now you got grown as men online acting like buffoons
Speaker 1: because they don't have no other means, and they figure, well,
Speaker 1: that's the way I'm appau able to make a few dollars,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. So now they just uppen
Speaker 1: it up. Man, You see this one, this this you know,
Speaker 1: I don't even want to say his name, just for
Speaker 1: fear that he's gonna start coming away with the bullship.
Speaker 1: But you see, buddy, don't pull the gun on the
Speaker 1: motherfucker through the interview and don't kind of other ship.
Speaker 1: And I can just see the time coming to where
Speaker 1: he meets since the mind's playing with the wrong one.
Speaker 1: Because I'm gonna tell you now, you come when are
Speaker 1: set trying to pull out a down you you you're
Speaker 1: not gonna make it out of there. Yeah, that's real.
Speaker 1: I wonder how much of that is cap though, you
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. You know, I wonder, But even
Speaker 1: if it's not, you have a whole bunch of people
Speaker 1: that's looking at like this. It's only a matter of
Speaker 1: time before somebody really comes with a gun on the
Speaker 1: show and just blame my motherfucker right here on the
Speaker 1: thing on the live or some ship I'm telling you
Speaker 1: was coming. Well, hopefully it's not on our ship. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: like that. Mhm. It seems like it's gonna happen with
Speaker 1: everything going on the way people are disrespecting grown men.
Speaker 1: Uh yeah, somebody's gonna run the wrong person, and you know,
Speaker 1: bad things happening. You know, I don't I'm not gonna
Speaker 1: try to promote it, but you know, you can see
Speaker 1: it coming with all the ship, you know, with all
Speaker 1: these guys being killed, that's real ship that they know
Speaker 1: makeup ship, that's real ship. So with that man violence,
Speaker 1: but you know, you know, knowing, we gotta look at
Speaker 1: it like this because when I was growing up, I've
Speaker 1: seen it all you've seen. You've seen the PCP prostitution
Speaker 1: for for young women today or runaway black female, it's
Speaker 1: the prostitute. She don't see no other means, no other way.
Speaker 1: We got young men running around here being pimps because
Speaker 1: they don't have no better way. So I think we
Speaker 1: we were quick to clean to what works for us
Speaker 1: at the time, how we can make money opposed to
Speaker 1: going out and doing the right thing. You see what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. So it's it's more than rapping music that's
Speaker 1: sucking us up. You know what I'm saying. We are
Speaker 1: so easy to be influenced by others, approached our own people.
Speaker 1: We are quick to do each other just because somebody
Speaker 1: else's personal game. Should I say? I hope you'll understand
Speaker 1: where I'm coming from. We lost a lot of leaders
Speaker 1: because there's that one we cat that you know, the
Speaker 1: police funk with that went baman, you know, funked up ship.
Speaker 1: You know when you're talking on this ship man, you
Speaker 1: you you, you tend to just go through all kinds
Speaker 1: of ships. So I'm trying to light fun sugarcoating. We
Speaker 1: have sold each other also, goddamn bad, We used to it,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. When let's go all the
Speaker 1: way back to slavery, all the way up to now,
Speaker 1: we sell each other out by any means necessary. So
Speaker 1: it's more than just wrap that's sucking us up. Rap
Speaker 1: plays the biggest part of it, I say, because if
Speaker 1: you can get rid of every young black man and
Speaker 1: he can't be productive or produce family children, then yeah,
Speaker 1: we're killing ourselves slowly, but surely we're wiping ourselves out
Speaker 1: and don't even know. And and ship this is gonna coach.
Speaker 1: You kill a black man if you don't have to
Speaker 1: pay a fine, because we're gonna be extinct, like motherfucker.
Speaker 1: You can't kill us, you know what I'm saying. But
Speaker 1: I mean we we sucked up man. And just listening
Speaker 1: to that letter, that letter tells a lot. When you
Speaker 1: go to prison, brother, you're working for a twelveth cent.
Speaker 1: You're working for thirty four cent the top nights, dott
Speaker 1: and I'm talking about labor. You're working in the laundry,
Speaker 1: you cleaning, washing ship that don't consist of penitentiary ship.
Speaker 1: But you folded and you're doing you you making searchs,
Speaker 1: you're making license plates California people, you got all that
Speaker 1: ship is prison ship? And how much money do they
Speaker 1: make for making that ship? But you're only getting uh
Speaker 1: twenty pass in an hour to press a thousand plates today?
Speaker 1: You see what I'm saying. So it is slavery. You
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. They're working your ass. Just think
Speaker 1: you got twenty five years and you mastered this ship.
Speaker 1: You can work the machines and every machine. They got
Speaker 1: a top notch sneaker working the machines, teaching every other
Speaker 1: motherfucker that come in there how to work their machines
Speaker 1: and make the Mason place how to work those lines
Speaker 1: of machines. Just think how much that you you will
Speaker 1: be paying to come on the prison yard and cook
Speaker 1: the it mayste it it makes in the cold part
Speaker 1: of Barty James. It's not like in the cold part
Speaker 1: of Bottle Bro's not like they can take them skills.
Speaker 1: They had them prisoner card and just get a job automatically. No,
Speaker 1: something home would be a little cooks or whatever. But
Speaker 1: what I'm saying to you is, as you was reading
Speaker 1: that letter, you can just hear just the like this
Speaker 1: ship is. That's for real. That letter is for real. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I believe it's authentic. I believe in that lets it
Speaker 1: is and it happens. So are they making more prisons
Speaker 1: to to make more money. They make money because they're
Speaker 1: getting in the cotton and all other kinds of ship.
Speaker 1: And you go out and work for it. You got
Speaker 1: inmates that go and fight fires. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: That's the camp that's free. You putting your life on
Speaker 1: the line. Fighting fires. You got inmates that work the yard,
Speaker 1: and and like like SMC sending those abaseball you out
Speaker 1: there picking up garbage on the the beach. Mhm. See
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. You're used for a whole lot of
Speaker 1: things that they get a whole lot of money for doing,
Speaker 1: but you only get a cent, See what I'm saying. Yeah,
Speaker 1: So so let me ask let me ask you guys this.
Speaker 1: So I mean, with all of this being said, right,
Speaker 1: and and the information is out there right, So at
Speaker 1: this point, I think the culture, you know, at least
Speaker 1: for the most part or even of us, we know
Speaker 1: to play right because because because of the Internet, because
Speaker 1: we're all able to be connected, you know, unlike back
Speaker 1: in the day where you know, you had the newspaper magazines,
Speaker 1: if you didn't read or nothing like that, you wouldn't
Speaker 1: know the information, right, So why do we choose to steal,
Speaker 1: you know, play the destructive game? If we know the play?
Speaker 1: We literally know that Okay, they got these prisons built
Speaker 1: for us, they can't wait to put us in jail.
Speaker 1: We know the dope game fucked up. They can't then
Speaker 1: infiltrated that we can't get money like that. We know
Speaker 1: if we're a rapper. We know they're looking for the rico.
Speaker 1: We know you know what I'm saying, So we know
Speaker 1: all these plays are set in motion to funk us up.
Speaker 1: Why do we keep getting Why do we keep playing
Speaker 1: into it? What's this pollution? Why? Why? Why? Well? You
Speaker 1: keep playing into it because you don't You don't see
Speaker 1: another way out. You don't have an alternative. You don't
Speaker 1: have an option. If I had an option from okay,
Speaker 1: I can go to Texas and may thirty dollars in
Speaker 1: our were supposed to sitting in the hood doing nothing,
Speaker 1: I would have took that. But we don't have that.
Speaker 1: We can't tell them cats come do this, get out
Speaker 1: of the game bag and put the guns down there.
Speaker 1: They didn't try they didn't try this. But it don't
Speaker 1: work because once you go home, man, you you you
Speaker 1: you in the hood, and when that happened, everything else
Speaker 1: is still moving in a circle around you and you're
Speaker 1: trying to be right. So you know, if if, if
Speaker 1: if we had something to get rid of something, and
Speaker 1: we had a choice to do this or that, I
Speaker 1: think a lot of a lot of these young cats
Speaker 1: that do it, you know what I'm saying. I think
Speaker 1: a lot of cats will make better choices than with
Speaker 1: it making a day, because I nine times nine times
Speaker 1: got a ten. If you got podcasts doing the smashing graph,
Speaker 1: three of them don't want to do it. Three of
Speaker 1: them don't want to do it, but they found on
Speaker 1: those two. But those two is the ones that's really
Speaker 1: out there, and that's that's promoting the situation. You can't
Speaker 1: save everybody. All of us ain't gonna be saved. You
Speaker 1: already know that. So you know, we get locked up,
Speaker 1: we get a trade, but it ain't gonna do no good.
Speaker 1: I got life in prison. I got all these certiicapates
Speaker 1: in myself, but I can't use them because I'm never
Speaker 1: getting out. What's the purpose. A lot of lifers don't
Speaker 1: want to work. So it's of choices and the things
Speaker 1: that we don't have, bro Dad, that keeps us stagnated.
Speaker 1: Where we're at, Yeah, go ahead. Still, I think it's
Speaker 1: a big par e. James knocked down the hold chunk
Speaker 1: of it because I was gonna say some of that,
Speaker 1: and I believe it's our hubrish too. Court. I think
Speaker 1: that we just seem to have this thing in our
Speaker 1: mind that we go go on this mission. And we
Speaker 1: go get away from it, and we've never pictured nothing
Speaker 1: happening to us. We don't have and anything else we
Speaker 1: see it happened a million times to everyone else. But
Speaker 1: we seem to think that we've got a different way
Speaker 1: to reinvent the wheel all the time, like like you know,
Speaker 1: we've seen We've seen the homie get busted up the
Speaker 1: block twenty times and get walked down the street button
Speaker 1: naked and embarrass you know, the niked is the biggest ball,
Speaker 1: and they make sure they embarrass him all the time
Speaker 1: when they take them down. I started his house, button naked,
Speaker 1: little thing, just blowing all all in the wind and
Speaker 1: just you know, getting smacked on the back of the head.
Speaker 1: But we think, oh yeah, now I'm about to come
Speaker 1: take that over, and I ain't gonna get crack because
Speaker 1: I'm gonna do something different. And then you see us
Speaker 1: as doing the same damn strow without the thing. So
Speaker 1: we keep seeing the same ship, but we keep thinking
Speaker 1: that we just go have different results all the time.
Speaker 1: And I think it's our own air against our own
Speaker 1: vanity and are and just being truly lazy because and
Speaker 1: everybody wants something for nothing, bro, don't nobody ever want
Speaker 1: to go work for it. We always think it's a lick.
Speaker 1: Everything in the damn lick. Though. Life ain't about a lick,
Speaker 1: you see what I'm saying. Life is about you working hard,
Speaker 1: dog and getting off your ass, and you want to
Speaker 1: go try to achieve something. But we want to easy.
Speaker 1: We think everything is easy. That's why when you talk
Speaker 1: to most kids, they want to be like, I remember,
Speaker 1: you used to want to be a professional athlete dog
Speaker 1: just for the three of the competing against the best
Speaker 1: of the best. Right now, it's like you get a
Speaker 1: lot of guys to come safe for the money, and
Speaker 1: ain't nothing wrong with that. Guys want to be rappers
Speaker 1: for the money because they want to change their people's life.
Speaker 1: It ain't for the love of the culture, for none
Speaker 1: of that. It's because they want to get well. That
Speaker 1: the average king excuse the average kid and nine years
Speaker 1: old saying I'm not doing nothing. I ain't got to
Speaker 1: go to school. I'm just gonna be a wrapper. I'm
Speaker 1: gonna make rap something, be rich. That ain't the way
Speaker 1: to think of nine years old. That's real. Come on, man,
Speaker 1: we just gotta change it and something. Just these cats
Speaker 1: with these these mentalities, man, it ain't good for us.
Speaker 1: We're backwards. We're going backwards. That's real, that's real. I
Speaker 1: think too. I think some of it, man, is just
Speaker 1: a lack of hope too. You know what I mean
Speaker 1: When I go back to my own experiences when I
Speaker 1: was young, and you know, I was raised on love,
Speaker 1: not survival, you know what I'm saying. So it's like,
Speaker 1: but even you know, you start smelling your piss around
Speaker 1: fourteen fifteen, you start doing ship and I can remember
Speaker 1: me doing crash out ship, and but I always still
Speaker 1: have hope, you know what I mean. Like like you said,
Speaker 1: like you just said, Jake, you said that if five
Speaker 1: niggas is doing a smash and grab, three of them
Speaker 1: don't really want to be doing it. Um. I can
Speaker 1: remember some of the ship we was doing when I
Speaker 1: was fourteen fifteen, Like we hit a gun store, different
Speaker 1: things like that. I was with it, but I wasn't
Speaker 1: with it to the extent that, Okay, this is all
Speaker 1: it is for me, you know what I'm saying. Like
Speaker 1: I'm just I'm gonna go to prison, I'm gonna running yard.
Speaker 1: Like you know, always still had hope. And I think
Speaker 1: that I think maybe helping some of these kids, uh
Speaker 1: find that hope and find a purpose, I think because
Speaker 1: once they established a purpose and a dream, like because
Speaker 1: I was always a dream. So I really believe that
Speaker 1: once you have a dream and you establish a purpose,
Speaker 1: you intend to make different decisions. And you gotta be
Speaker 1: able to see that ship even when your circumstances is
Speaker 1: fucked up. I know it's easier said than done. You
Speaker 1: might have a kid that got you know, vote a parent,
Speaker 1: locked up, parent on drugs, you know, and they just
Speaker 1: trying to fell for themselves and they just trying to
Speaker 1: survive from day to day, and all everybody around you
Speaker 1: is doing negative ship. Um, and I know what that's like.
Speaker 1: But you know, I think it's just being able to
Speaker 1: interject some hope into the community and in unity, you know,
Speaker 1: even amongst our culture. I really believe that. I don't
Speaker 1: think man can unify us. I think that's something above us.
Speaker 1: I think that's only God could do that. You know
Speaker 1: what I mean, because just by by nature, we are
Speaker 1: you know, we're we're we're we I mean, listen to
Speaker 1: I know the evil of men's hearts, because I know
Speaker 1: the evil in mind. You know what I'm saying. We
Speaker 1: all got it some of us just can control it
Speaker 1: and modulate it better. When you can be honest with yourself,
Speaker 1: no matter how uncomfortable that ship is, then you can
Speaker 1: address it and do the work, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: So I think just hope, you know, any youngster listening, man,
Speaker 1: just just you gotta have hope, man, because when you
Speaker 1: lose that hope, you don't give a funk what happens
Speaker 1: to you. And when you don't give a funk what
Speaker 1: happens to you, then you ain't gonna give a funk
Speaker 1: about nobody else. If you don't care about dying, you
Speaker 1: don't care about going to jail, That's exactly what's gonna happen,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, Because you can't care about
Speaker 1: the next nigga life. And I know how that is,
Speaker 1: you know from experience. J I'm sure you can. You
Speaker 1: can attest to that, you know what I mean, because
Speaker 1: when you don't care about you, you don't see humanity
Speaker 1: in the next nigger you like. You know, I could
Speaker 1: care less, you know what I mean. But I think
Speaker 1: when that's checked, you know, along with like I said,
Speaker 1: we got the information the same way that the youngsters
Speaker 1: can get the information, which makes them feel empowered that
Speaker 1: they know more than us and they know everything. You
Speaker 1: can get the same information to empower yourself and really
Speaker 1: apply because knowledge is power, but applied knowledge is you know, priceless.
Speaker 1: So I don't know. I think it's addressing that hope. Man.
Speaker 1: I think that's a big part of it, because they'll
Speaker 1: make different choices if they just exactly when you know
Speaker 1: what all of this flows into. And I know we
Speaker 1: don't have much time left, but I want to touch
Speaker 1: on this. All of this stuff is actually all this
Speaker 1: stuff actually like goes full circle because Blacks have really
Speaker 1: we don't trust on another, We don't respect one another,
Speaker 1: and we nor do we trust one of those I'm
Speaker 1: gonna tell you something I saw the other day. I
Speaker 1: was inside of one of my buddies. He got a
Speaker 1: T shirt shop right over in bail Flower. Man, you
Speaker 1: know I was up there. I was up there to
Speaker 1: buy a few T shirts. You know, if I'm gonna
Speaker 1: go buy a T shirt, I go to this shop
Speaker 1: and I'm support him. I saw his brother in there,
Speaker 1: Hey man, let me get a discount, and the girl
Speaker 1: behind the counters telling them like, hey, this is what
Speaker 1: it is. It's five nine. But man, you know, but
Speaker 1: I can't get a dollar off two man, I don't
Speaker 1: know what's wrong with y'all. Y'all can't give us a discount.
Speaker 1: And I asked myself, brod Checkers, would you walk up
Speaker 1: to Macy's and asked him for a discount. If we
Speaker 1: go up to Macy's, Man, if the price tag says
Speaker 1: n dollars on there, we gonna pay them mark day
Speaker 1: nine eighty and they taxes or whatever, and we go
Speaker 1: get the funk on. And a lot of times not
Speaker 1: even gonna ask for the receiver, go and keep the receipt.
Speaker 1: Ain't tripping. But if it's one of us, if we
Speaker 1: walk in we see somebody behind us look like us,
Speaker 1: we want to ask for discounts. We want to ask
Speaker 1: for this. We want to ask for that man just
Speaker 1: purchased the ship and respect They shot like you would
Speaker 1: the next man's. We can't get along with each other.
Speaker 1: I remember James said something before man a long time ago.
Speaker 1: We had to stick together. Let's not be like everybody else.
Speaker 1: Man shoot a ship, stand niggas wound up tearing up
Speaker 1: some ship. You know, we we we our own worst enemies, bro.
Speaker 1: And it's sad to me it's like it's really sad.
Speaker 1: And I'm hoping that one day I can see the
Speaker 1: day man that I could see brothers just working together,
Speaker 1: supporting one another and not and not tripping like porch.
Speaker 1: You gotta um, you gotta energy. What is it like?
Speaker 1: It's a health it's a fitness thing, right, say it again.
Speaker 1: I said you gotta fitness shape that you're doing right? Yeah,
Speaker 1: I got my own supplement up to muscle sports. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: you got supplement. If you are out there selling that
Speaker 1: supplement out the trunk of your car, I guarantee you
Speaker 1: if a white person coming by the most people, but
Speaker 1: it's gonna be that nigger, right the black person if
Speaker 1: you say he's gonna give it to you, the white
Speaker 1: person go give it to you. The Mesican person can
Speaker 1: give it to you, But the one nigger don't come.
Speaker 1: He go in. You're twenty. It's where you can get
Speaker 1: two jars for twenty. Yeah. Now you just ain't making
Speaker 1: your price for no reason. Bro, You got everything putting there. Okay,
Speaker 1: it cost me this much to package this, It costs
Speaker 1: me this much to do this and the third, and
Speaker 1: you gotta pay yourself a little something. So you've got
Speaker 1: your thing figured out already. You can't afford to give
Speaker 1: somebody just too And Niggers just seem to think, is
Speaker 1: it's a black person selling it, then we're just making
Speaker 1: up our own prices. So USU us making the profit.
Speaker 1: Me go make sure you get extra one. We just
Speaker 1: out here to make sure you straight. It's like we
Speaker 1: need to knock that shi off bro right. And as
Speaker 1: we talk, guess we've been having this just just talking
Speaker 1: do it seems crazy how we how we have to uh,
Speaker 1: the way we talk about nigga or that that's the
Speaker 1: real nigga, that black motherfucker. How we how we identify
Speaker 1: ourselves with each other. I mean, we all black, but
Speaker 1: do a tribute all. Sometimes it do me, but I'm
Speaker 1: comfortable with saying that stupid mother, you know nigga. I
Speaker 1: don't think yet, I don't. I don't know how to
Speaker 1: put it. But the way we the way we introduce
Speaker 1: oselves to certain people, the way we talk are just
Speaker 1: general conversation with each other. You know, it'll make you
Speaker 1: feel like, you know, you're different. Well, I think, Sames,
Speaker 1: we've always had these colloquialisms and it's a little different,
Speaker 1: Like you know when you're the hood. What your friends
Speaker 1: you would say, that's stupid ass nigga, but you don't
Speaker 1: necessarily mean it that way. But I truly believe the
Speaker 1: older I get is I'm starting to really separate. I
Speaker 1: don't want to be called a nigga, first of all,
Speaker 1: because I'm a black man. I work for this ship
Speaker 1: I have. I'm not all trying to get over nobody
Speaker 1: and not respect everyone. Nigga don't respect no motherfucker, but
Speaker 1: they don't even respect itself, right, And I do think
Speaker 1: saying right, I do think we need to be more
Speaker 1: conscious of how we identify ourselves. Right, That's what I
Speaker 1: was trying to say. You know, we can get lost
Speaker 1: if we if if because it's disrespect to each other.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. If I if I just
Speaker 1: met Court, what's up my nigga? You know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: that's not you know, if we change the narrative on
Speaker 1: how we are with each other and people see that,
Speaker 1: people ain't gonna think like that, you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: And it just goes back to everything that we've been
Speaker 1: talking about. So just like with these young cats, they
Speaker 1: got to learn how to groom themselves. They sold their mind,
Speaker 1: their hearts, you know what I'm saying. And I can
Speaker 1: honestly say that if, if, if, you can take a
Speaker 1: bad situation and turn it into good. You know. But
Speaker 1: a lot of kids need to learn patients. You know,
Speaker 1: I didn't have patients when I was younger. I know,
Speaker 1: y'all didn't. You know what I'm saying. We need to
Speaker 1: learn patients. We need to learn day by day. Don't
Speaker 1: try to get everything in one day. You can't get
Speaker 1: it that way. And every day is not promised to us.
Speaker 1: So we gotta live a certain kind of weight every
Speaker 1: day because tomorrow ain't promise and that's a for sure man.
Speaker 1: So you know what, man, I think we all just
Speaker 1: need to just sit back and reflect a little bit, man,
Speaker 1: and just be more like even like James said, the
Speaker 1: way we address each other, because I'm really making it
Speaker 1: a really I'm really making a really consulted effort not
Speaker 1: to use that word right as much because I'm like
Speaker 1: everybody else. You know, you get comfortable with class man,
Speaker 1: it's dumb ass and thinking this and that. Let's start
Speaker 1: acting like black man. Let's start acting like black you know,
Speaker 1: because my thing is this when I'm modem public. I'm
Speaker 1: a representation for y'all too, just like y'all the representation
Speaker 1: for me too. Like folks se y'all acting a certain
Speaker 1: kind of way. Yeah, there's some of them. They already
Speaker 1: got their mind made because they've seen so many of
Speaker 1: us out there misrepresenting man that they think everybody is ignorant, right,
Speaker 1: And that's not the case, man. But I appreciate you
Speaker 1: coming to hold us and don't agree in court y'all.
Speaker 1: Make sure y'all go subscribe to my man show, the
Speaker 1: Holding Court podcast, one of the best podcasts online. You
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. Appreciate that, ain't I got a
Speaker 1: quick question? Um, just on another note, so I just
Speaker 1: noticed on here we all big right, big still big
Speaker 1: j big court. But I want to tell y'all, man, listen,
Speaker 1: I appreciate y'all ingratiate me and you know, having me
Speaker 1: on the platform. Bro, I got a lot of respect
Speaker 1: for both of y'all. I love what y'all been doing.
Speaker 1: I was, uh and still am a big fan of
Speaker 1: the show, you know, and now to be you know,
Speaker 1: I'm really grateful and honored to be able to be,
Speaker 1: you know, amongst y'all doing this, So I appreciate y'all,
Speaker 1: you know, having me on the shout out to the O. G.
Speaker 1: M c A. You know what I'm saying. You know,
Speaker 1: he's getting his bag doing his thing right now. But
Speaker 1: you know, I appreciate you all, so salute to you.
Speaker 1: You know. Let me join y'all for sure, and we
Speaker 1: got and we gotta and we gotta link the chorus
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