Speaker 1: One season ends and another is immediately upon us, and
Speaker 1: that would be draft season. We're excited. That's twenty four.
Speaker 1: I think there's going to be a lot of players
Speaker 1: of interest and then having a lot of assets as
Speaker 1: good and kind of lets you control what you want
Speaker 1: to do when some some goals and have some means
Speaker 1: to go and go and achieve them. That's Vince Rosman,
Speaker 1: who heads up the seventy six or scouting department. We'll
Speaker 1: hear from him and Mariol Shaya prospect who was in
Speaker 1: town for pre draft workout earlier this week. Game very
Speaker 1: versus I think, I mean Tea needs shooting, an ability
Speaker 1: of the parents. I think I spring that time to
Speaker 1: start diving into our draft season series. On this episode
Speaker 1: of the broadcast, back we are on the podcast How
Speaker 1: You Doing. I'm Brian Seltzer. Thanks so much for checking
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Speaker 1: our social channels, as well profiles of individual players and
Speaker 1: recaps the first two workouts of the spring. If I'm
Speaker 1: being totally honest and upfront, last Tuesday, about forty eight
Speaker 1: hours after a Game seven of the Eastern Conference Semifinals
Speaker 1: came to an end, I honestly would have much rather
Speaker 1: been getting ready for the opener of the Conference finals
Speaker 1: in Milwaukee. Who wouldn't. That's just the type of year
Speaker 1: that you live to be a part of, and as
Speaker 1: a team you play for it. Of course, was four
Speaker 1: bounces not to be. But instead, on the flip side, I,
Speaker 1: along with probably many of you, we're tuned into ESPN
Speaker 1: an annual right of Spring passage focusing on this pick
Speaker 1: number fourteen will be made by the Boston Celtics. All right,
Speaker 1: this was originally Sacramentos pick, but it goes to Boston.
Speaker 1: If the pick had been number one overall would have
Speaker 1: been in Philadelphia. But Celtics, you've got it. Ah. Yes,
Speaker 1: the NBA Draft lottery in Chicago, for better or worse,
Speaker 1: might be the last one for a while that we
Speaker 1: pay close attention to, at least as far as the
Speaker 1: lottery is concerned. Seventy Sixers had a shot, a one
Speaker 1: percent shot of getting the Sacramento King's pick that would
Speaker 1: have conveyed to number one, but that wasn't the case.
Speaker 1: So the Boston Celtics, as you heard Rachel Nichols say,
Speaker 1: assume the rights to that pick at number fourteen. But
Speaker 1: all at all, the Sixers they are in a I
Speaker 1: think a really great spot to influence this year's draft.
Speaker 1: We're going to talk about that with Vince Rosman in
Speaker 1: a bit. The Sixers tied for the most picks in
Speaker 1: the league with five at number twenty four, thirty three,
Speaker 1: thirty four, forty two, and fifty four. And with all
Speaker 1: those picks in hand, it's been an important few days recently,
Speaker 1: an important few weeks and last month or so for
Speaker 1: members of the seventy Sixers. They were at the Combine
Speaker 1: in Chicago last week, and that was followed by the
Speaker 1: team's second pre draft workout this spring on Monday at
Speaker 1: the training complex in Camden. One of the participants who
Speaker 1: interested me and who was also in Chicago for not
Speaker 1: just the Combine but the NBA G League Elite camp
Speaker 1: Iowa State product Mariol Shayok Mario was an All American
Speaker 1: Honorable mention last year. He started his career for three
Speaker 1: seasons at UVA, then he transferred to Ames in two
Speaker 1: thousand seventeen, had a breakout two eighteen nineteen campaign, and
Speaker 1: we caught up with Shayok and asked him not just
Speaker 1: about the state of his game, but his impressions of
Speaker 1: these seventy sixers. It's history and great players got that's
Speaker 1: come through here and then obviously the current players that's
Speaker 1: kind of brought the franchise back to where supposed to be.
Speaker 1: And when you're on a court you see you know,
Speaker 1: Barkley Iverson, Irving Chamberlain, I mean, what is that like?
Speaker 1: Can you help you know, you mentioned the history, can
Speaker 1: you got to help it get caught up in that
Speaker 1: history thing? Yeah, it's crazy you've seeing that Iverson, Jerry
Speaker 1: Yess one of my favorite players growing up, um and
Speaker 1: obviously being from Canada, you remember Everyson killing us at
Speaker 1: OH one, Him and Vince Carter and obviously they had
Speaker 1: a good series uh this past playoff playoffs. So I mean,
Speaker 1: this history is just amazing to see as a young player,
Speaker 1: you know you're coming up. You mentioned the seventy six
Speaker 1: ers having a regeneration or regrowth. What stands out about
Speaker 1: the style of play the team has. I mean it's great.
Speaker 1: I mean the starting five obviously stands out the most
Speaker 1: just because the talent has an ability to play together.
Speaker 1: I think they really kind of faded out in the
Speaker 1: playoffs and Jimmy Butler and Joel and B lead in
Speaker 1: a way. You obviously got Reddick ability to space the floor,
Speaker 1: and then obviously Ben Simmons does a little bit of everything.
Speaker 1: So um, I mean the style of player. Then they
Speaker 1: they kind of just make it work within their their strength,
Speaker 1: so they could play fast, they could slow it out
Speaker 1: a game and having Joel and B post or space
Speaker 1: out of the floor. So it's just a very very
Speaker 1: style of play. So when you walk me through really
Speaker 1: from start to finish, and there's just your second workout,
Speaker 1: but from start to finish, like when you land here
Speaker 1: to when you get on the court to when you're
Speaker 1: wrapping up, what is this whole experience with the seventy
Speaker 1: six er has been like what if this has been
Speaker 1: some of the things that had you do It's been
Speaker 1: great I mean he came in kind of late from
Speaker 1: the common last night and it's got some food and
Speaker 1: went to sleep. And then this morning, I mean, they
Speaker 1: really took care of us. They got us some breakfast,
Speaker 1: the facility out there, which was crazy to see. So
Speaker 1: the whole facility here is amazing. And then it really
Speaker 1: took care of us. And then all all the coaches
Speaker 1: coaches here are really really helpful. They got us, they
Speaker 1: pushed us through and you got some good working. We'll
Speaker 1: talk about your career arc through college and that win.
Speaker 1: But just coming into this pre draft season Portsmouth Invitational,
Speaker 1: you shot the ball really well, did so the same
Speaker 1: at the combine. How are you feeling about the general
Speaker 1: state of your game right now? Feeling good. I'm still
Speaker 1: trying to get comfortable with these new settings and new
Speaker 1: players and playing against playing with and against new guys
Speaker 1: is it's definitely a challenge. It's especially coming from a
Speaker 1: college the college season where you're familiar with all the
Speaker 1: players you're playing with. Um, so it's new. But I
Speaker 1: think I'm doing well. I think I'm just trying to
Speaker 1: play to my strengths, stay confident and shoot the ball
Speaker 1: and do what I do in defense. I mean it's
Speaker 1: a common person, you know. I think from the outside, like,
Speaker 1: you've got all these executives watching you, coaches, general managers.
Speaker 1: How do you tune that out? Are you able to?
Speaker 1: Does it help you when you think of that sort
Speaker 1: of thing, How do you maintain focus? And it's a
Speaker 1: very important moment that you're working towards. That's the thing
Speaker 1: I just trying to not to think. I think I
Speaker 1: played better when I'm free and playing free. And I mean,
Speaker 1: obviously the executives and the coaches all can be intimidating
Speaker 1: if you let it, but honestly, it's what you want.
Speaker 1: It's when you're eventually gonna have to play in front
Speaker 1: of them, play a fund of many executives hopefully throughout
Speaker 1: my career, and I just got to stay confident no
Speaker 1: matter what, I just play my game and let the
Speaker 1: rest handle it. So, what were some of the things
Speaker 1: that they emphasized on the court during your drills and
Speaker 1: scrimmages and just go harden every rat the pace and
Speaker 1: it really just just really kept me moving. It was
Speaker 1: a really fast paced workout and so it really wasn't
Speaker 1: too time to dwell on misshots or anything, and to
Speaker 1: stay compent, spent the first three years of your college
Speaker 1: career at UVA, then you transferred to Iowa State. At
Speaker 1: UVA in those three years or were some of the
Speaker 1: biggest things you took away from your experience as far
Speaker 1: as your development as a player in a person. Oh Man,
Speaker 1: the UVA I mean, it was an amazing experience for me.
Speaker 1: Relationships I built there, but guys like Justin who was
Speaker 1: here last year, and Malcolm and all those guys helped
Speaker 1: me become the player I am today and a person today,
Speaker 1: just seeing how they worked and how they carry themselves.
Speaker 1: And then obviously with the coaching staff there, they're checking
Speaker 1: in on and really just they made me really a
Speaker 1: better person, and really I'll carry myself as a credit
Speaker 1: to them. I'd have to think defensively, that had to
Speaker 1: wise thy basketball wise. Obviously improved defensively, and then um,
Speaker 1: the ability to create with limited jibble to something I
Speaker 1: definitely got better at coming out of highchool and going
Speaker 1: to UVA. Just within their offense. You have the time
Speaker 1: at UVA and then people see breakout numbers. This past year.
Speaker 1: There was, of course the transfer season where you had
Speaker 1: to sit out, take me inside what was going on?
Speaker 1: Last year before this season, when you probably had time
Speaker 1: to work on your game developed, how did you prepare
Speaker 1: yourself to step up and step in the way you
Speaker 1: did this year? I mean I would say, I mean
Speaker 1: I had a year off I really to just take
Speaker 1: my time and really just dissect my game and get
Speaker 1: better in all aspects of my game. And then once
Speaker 1: this year came out, I was really wanted to trust
Speaker 1: my work and just play free. And Coach prom being
Speaker 1: an amazing coach he was, he put me in great
Speaker 1: spots to really excel. Where do you think your game
Speaker 1: is at right now as far as best fit for
Speaker 1: an NBA team? Um? I think on games very versatile.
Speaker 1: I think, I mean every NBA team needs shooting and
Speaker 1: an ability to defend. So I think I just bring that.
Speaker 1: I think it could score and really make shots, especially
Speaker 1: when open, and then my length of the defend on
Speaker 1: the one in three. So I think any NBA team
Speaker 1: could use that. What's the lasting impression that you want
Speaker 1: to leave an NBA organization with when you walk out
Speaker 1: the doors after they of a pre draft workout? Um,
Speaker 1: and that on bought in and to get in better
Speaker 1: and really improve my game. Um, than it's something I
Speaker 1: really take pride in, and then that I'm gonna do
Speaker 1: make winning plays on and off the court, and keeps
Speaker 1: giving all good stuff from Mariel Shayak, who also went
Speaker 1: to Blair Academy in New Jersey before the start of
Speaker 1: his collegiate career at Virginia. But this past season he
Speaker 1: was terrific, averaged over eighteen and a half points per game,
Speaker 1: just about five rebounds, two assists, shot really well from
Speaker 1: three at over thirty eight percent hits seventy one three pointers,
Speaker 1: and he's been shooting the ball really well in recent
Speaker 1: weeks at the Portsmouth Invitational at the three games there,
Speaker 1: and also in Chicago at the G League Elite Camp
Speaker 1: and during the combined scrimmages. So appreciate Mariel Shayak for
Speaker 1: taking a few minutes out of his visit with the
Speaker 1: seventy sixers to talk. We're gonna talk with Vince Rosman,
Speaker 1: Senior director of scouting for the seventy sixers, in just
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Speaker 1: it is an insanely intense time of year for personnel
Speaker 1: people throughout the NBA. It is no different for Vince Rosman.
Speaker 1: He's been with the seventy six Ers for the better
Speaker 1: part of a decade and a half. He is currently
Speaker 1: the club's senior director of Scouting and it is great
Speaker 1: to have him back on the podcast at this all
Speaker 1: important time of year. Vince, I'm not going to divulge
Speaker 1: any details or secrets about your recent itinerary. All I
Speaker 1: will say is that as of the morning of recording
Speaker 1: this podcast, you are just a few hours and removed
Speaker 1: being back in the Delaware Valley from being a few
Speaker 1: time zones away, and within a few more hours you'll
Speaker 1: be off to another time zone. So why don't we
Speaker 1: start with that? Just how NonStop is the pace this
Speaker 1: time here? I gotta imagine it's pretty crazy. Yeah, Actually,
Speaker 1: since the start or the end of the college season,
Speaker 1: it gets pretty nuts. So you go into multiple different
Speaker 1: like all star ish type events, whether it be from
Speaker 1: high school kids or college seniors. That's pretty much April.
Speaker 1: And then from April you go into the combine, and
Speaker 1: combine goes into both the in market workouts and the
Speaker 1: agent workouts, which are all over the place. So we're
Speaker 1: in that. We're in that mix right now, and it's
Speaker 1: it's a lot of travel. It's not my wist favorite
Speaker 1: time of year, but there are there has to be
Speaker 1: perks for her at the end of the day, right,
Speaker 1: some frequent flyer miles that sort of thing. Yeah, she
Speaker 1: takes advantage a new meaning to double a advantage. So
Speaker 1: how much new things are uncovered this time of year,
Speaker 1: about four weeks away from the draft itself. I gotta
Speaker 1: imagine there's certain guys who at the beginning of college
Speaker 1: season are on the radar of every team, and then
Speaker 1: as the season unfolds, there are more prospects that come along.
Speaker 1: But is it the case where some prospects pop at
Speaker 1: these showcases or group workouts or whether you bring in
Speaker 1: guys to the training complex here. I think the biggest
Speaker 1: thing is people don't necessarily understand how limited our access
Speaker 1: is to the players. So a lot of times this
Speaker 1: is our first chance to sit across the table and
Speaker 1: actually talk to them. Or similarly, it's our time to
Speaker 1: go to campus and really talk to coaches and get
Speaker 1: their feedback. Otherwise you're you're just kind of watching, and
Speaker 1: this level of detail you don't really get to until
Speaker 1: till this time of year, which is valuable. Like you,
Speaker 1: you want to know who they are as people and
Speaker 1: what their interactions have been like with you know, coaches
Speaker 1: and support staff and all that throughout their career. I'm
Speaker 1: not sure if it's fair to describe the interview process
Speaker 1: at the combine similar to something like speed dating, but
Speaker 1: it is very rapid. A lot of guys come in.
Speaker 1: But still I do have to think that there's even
Speaker 1: something that might emerge in those interactions, because if you think,
Speaker 1: even in any context or any walk of life, like
Speaker 1: I'm just thinking when you apply to college, you're thinking, Wow,
Speaker 1: I really hope I get an interview with my application
Speaker 1: rather than just someone reading my application, because there's just
Speaker 1: something that you hope you can either convey or someone
Speaker 1: else finds out about you through interpersonal dynamics. Right, that
Speaker 1: has to be similar to this. Yeah, it actually is
Speaker 1: very very speed dating like. But but that said, um,
Speaker 1: if you're interviewing somebody for any job, you want to
Speaker 1: be able to actually sit in front of them and
Speaker 1: talk to them and get a feel for who they
Speaker 1: are as people, and you know what their experiences have
Speaker 1: been like and what led them to this point. It. Yeah,
Speaker 1: like you just would want to know them as much
Speaker 1: as possible. With you, guys, getting into the thick of
Speaker 1: it right now, why don't you give us a timeline
Speaker 1: for the average person out there who might be listening.
Speaker 1: When this really starts for you guys, when you start
Speaker 1: digging into preparing for the next year's draft. It kind
Speaker 1: of never stops, honestly. So from from this draft, well
Speaker 1: we'll stop start scouting you know, international events of under
Speaker 1: eighteen and under nineteen and under twenty year old kids
Speaker 1: across the world. So that's July and August, and in
Speaker 1: August there's Nike camps and other you know, shoe company
Speaker 1: events that has high school and college kids for the
Speaker 1: next year. So so you you dive right back in,
Speaker 1: and you know that helps prepare you for the next
Speaker 1: college year, and from college you get right back to
Speaker 1: this point in the year. It's it's it's kind of
Speaker 1: a NonStop process. Literally, it is a planet full of
Speaker 1: prospects that you guys have to scour to try and
Speaker 1: find talent. How do you funnel it down? How does
Speaker 1: it go from the inverted pyramid type of look, I
Speaker 1: guess where it must be so broad to begin with,
Speaker 1: and then you try to narrow and whittle things down
Speaker 1: to zero and on potential targets. It's actually, I mean,
Speaker 1: thank goodness, it's probably a lot easier now than it
Speaker 1: was in the past. Now we have access to more data,
Speaker 1: way more video, so we're not so reliant on the
Speaker 1: happenstance of seeing a guy. There's a bunch of things
Speaker 1: and indicators that point us in the right direction before
Speaker 1: we get to that point. But yeah, it's it's it's
Speaker 1: not easy. Seventy six ers have five picks in the
Speaker 1: draft as we speak at this point in time. That's
Speaker 1: tied for the most in the league. Number twenty four,
Speaker 1: then thirty three, thirty forty two, fifty four. How do
Speaker 1: you guys feel about that stash of picks? We're excited,
Speaker 1: um at twenty four, I think there's gonna be a
Speaker 1: lot of players of interest. UM. And then ideally, you know,
Speaker 1: somewhere in the thirties are kind of looking at the
Speaker 1: same pool of player and then when you when you
Speaker 1: look further down the draft, hopefully you know there are
Speaker 1: some options whether we roster them or not, or stash
Speaker 1: them or get the trade out for future picks. UM.
Speaker 1: Having having a lot of assets as good. It gives
Speaker 1: you a lot of optionality and kind of lets you control, um,
Speaker 1: what you want to do when sent some goals and
Speaker 1: have some means to go and go and achieve them.
Speaker 1: I got to ask you about the King's pick because
Speaker 1: there was a chance not a great chance, but there
Speaker 1: was a chance, a one percent chance that you guys
Speaker 1: could have ended up with the number one overall pick
Speaker 1: in the draft. How did you guys view that internally?
Speaker 1: How was that possibility as remote as it might have
Speaker 1: been reconciled as you guys were watching the lottery unfold,
Speaker 1: I didn't actually think about it too much. I think
Speaker 1: were we fortunate enough to win it, I would have
Speaker 1: taken care of itself. Clearly, there was nothing we could
Speaker 1: have done to help help those odds at this point
Speaker 1: would have been a good day. With your tenure here
Speaker 1: with the team, you've been here for about a decade
Speaker 1: and a half, how would you describe the organizations in
Speaker 1: the front office's philosophy when it comes to the draft,
Speaker 1: things you look for, type of guys you may try
Speaker 1: to identify. Um. I think at this point it's a
Speaker 1: lot of the same stuff Brett consistently talks about in
Speaker 1: you know, postgame and post practice interviews, which is we're
Speaker 1: focused on guys especially you know now that we have
Speaker 1: been and Joe well and hopefully Jimmy and Tobias are back,
Speaker 1: that that can play off of those guys. And what
Speaker 1: that is is guys that can defend, Guys that can
Speaker 1: make open shots, Guys that know who they are and
Speaker 1: know what role they fill and and can excel in
Speaker 1: that role. And quite frankly, those are the types of
Speaker 1: guys you hope they get later in the draft. Anyway,
Speaker 1: the stars kind of washed themselves out a little bit earlier.
Speaker 1: There does have to be a simplification process, I would
Speaker 1: think to a certain degree when at this stage, now,
Speaker 1: what do we say about three years into the team
Speaker 1: putting itself in position to contend where you have pieces there,
Speaker 1: and then I would think you can just zero in
Speaker 1: more on the type of needs that need to be filled.
Speaker 1: Is that not always the case a little bit. It's
Speaker 1: there's a balance. You also don't want to to pass up,
Speaker 1: you know, uber talents that just happen to fall. You
Speaker 1: want to keep your options open. But there's definitely, you know,
Speaker 1: I don't know if it's specific to us, but league wide,
Speaker 1: unique guys that can defend on the perimeter and switch
Speaker 1: and hold their own in space, and then everybody needs shooters.
Speaker 1: So it's it's not really a secret at this point.
Speaker 1: I know, you guys in the scouting department have a
Speaker 1: handful of people who are in here for their first
Speaker 1: or second seasons and other guys who have been here
Speaker 1: for generations from your experience for yourself, do you ever
Speaker 1: stop learning about what it takes to be a good
Speaker 1: talent evaluator? No, I mean, hopefully we are good talent
Speaker 1: talent evaluators. I think in the summer we do a
Speaker 1: good job of sitting down and kind of having postmortems
Speaker 1: over of the past year and what we could have
Speaker 1: done better and how you can you know, what are
Speaker 1: we missing, how are we thinking about players? And what
Speaker 1: can we do to better evaluate talent, better, collect intel,
Speaker 1: get more accurate intel, um better format processes, so we're
Speaker 1: ready earlier in the year. UM there. Yeah, there's there's
Speaker 1: always a learning process, and I think the different perspectives
Speaker 1: we have on staff is only helpful um to come
Speaker 1: up with better solutions to those questions. What makes for
Speaker 1: a good projection when it comes to prospects, How do
Speaker 1: you tell if a guy is NBA ready? I'm sure
Speaker 1: varies from player to player, but what are some of
Speaker 1: the things that that jump out and let you know
Speaker 1: whether a guy has a shot or he might be
Speaker 1: ready to make that leap to this level. I wish
Speaker 1: there was that UM, like one simple answer to that question. UM,
Speaker 1: oftentimes we don't. I mean, based on the amount of
Speaker 1: players that league as a whole gets wrong. I don't
Speaker 1: know that we can necessarily know. UM, but I think
Speaker 1: character drives a lot of that, and the guys will
Speaker 1: to win and will get will to get better and improve. UM.
Speaker 1: You know, their self awareness of where they are on
Speaker 1: their improvement scale is is very important so that they
Speaker 1: know where they have to go. UM. But yeah, I
Speaker 1: don't that's a really hard question to answer. I guess
Speaker 1: if people knew, then it would be a much more
Speaker 1: simple and direct task and challenge. You mentioned earlier about
Speaker 1: how the team literally has the globe covered to a
Speaker 1: certain degree when it comes to mining for talent. How
Speaker 1: do you guys divide up your resources between amateur scouting,
Speaker 1: pro scouting, UM, international scouting. UM. Yeah, we definitely have
Speaker 1: guys that are specialized in each of those roles UM,
Speaker 1: mostly dictated by their relationships and in each one each
Speaker 1: of those universes. UM. That way, you know, you want
Speaker 1: to get information before other teams. You want to get
Speaker 1: information more accurate than other teams. UM. So to do that,
Speaker 1: you need to to have people that have really, really,
Speaker 1: really deep relationships and with coaches and people just that
Speaker 1: that are around the players and in the know and
Speaker 1: can get information that other people can't. I'm sure even
Speaker 1: at the settings like the Portsmouth Invitational or the Combine,
Speaker 1: you also have personnel people and executives from teams interacting
Speaker 1: with one another and you build relationships over years. There's
Speaker 1: a lot of guys, I've got to think, travel familiar
Speaker 1: paths and similar circuits and see each other on a
Speaker 1: regular basis. How do you get to a point where
Speaker 1: you can tell whether you know some of the stuff
Speaker 1: that's been talked about, if it's sincere talking of shop
Speaker 1: or like, is there misdirection do you have to look
Speaker 1: out for that sort of thing, or how does that dynamic? Yeah,
Speaker 1: you tend not to believe anything at this point in
Speaker 1: the year. It's probably the best way to approach all
Speaker 1: of those conversations. Yeah, we definitely sit next to each
Speaker 1: other way too often, But at the end of the day,
Speaker 1: it also seems like everyone's at least on the surface
Speaker 1: friendly and gets along and there's this understanding of what
Speaker 1: you're all trying to do. Oh, yeah, no question. I mean,
Speaker 1: you know, that's a league full of good people and
Speaker 1: we enjoy each other's company, but we also are all
Speaker 1: playing the same game and want to win it. You know,
Speaker 1: I've really really good friends that I will lie to.
Speaker 1: I think they I think they know that. It is
Speaker 1: a delicate dance. So tell me a little bit about
Speaker 1: the Portsmouth Invitational. That's one of the first big showcase
Speaker 1: events um of the pre draft season once guys get
Speaker 1: out of school for seniors. How good of a gauge
Speaker 1: can that event be? What does that event tell you? Uh? Yeah,
Speaker 1: Portsmouth's great, It's been around forever. It's it's a showcase
Speaker 1: for seniors. So oftentimes, what why it's helpful is you
Speaker 1: get to see guys in a different contexts. Um, maybe
Speaker 1: they've been put in a box and whatever school they
Speaker 1: were at, and they can you know, show you that
Speaker 1: they've expanded their games over the years and have have
Speaker 1: more more to them than you have thought. It's also,
Speaker 1: like we said earlier, one of the first opportunities to
Speaker 1: grab a guy and have you know, launch or coffee
Speaker 1: with them and actually talk to them for for some
Speaker 1: good amount of time. But then it's just it's Portsmith.
Speaker 1: It's great, Like it's it's just a neat, neat setting.
Speaker 1: It seems more low key than the combine, Oh very much. Yeah,
Speaker 1: the combined. To me, and just as someone who's certainly
Speaker 1: outside the NBA personnel circle, I go there and I
Speaker 1: literally feel like I could just stand in a corner
Speaker 1: and people watch between college coaches who roll in for
Speaker 1: a quick appearance, to all the executives who are there.
Speaker 1: You know, this year I saw a picture of Elton
Speaker 1: speaking with Jerry West. It's like your head can almost
Speaker 1: be on a swivel, and for me at least, you're
Speaker 1: just amazed by some of the interactions between these power
Speaker 1: brokers that are taking place. It's crazy, it's humbling. It's
Speaker 1: it's humbling room to be in with with I don't know,
Speaker 1: people that have been in the league forever and have
Speaker 1: done like unbelievable things, either as players or as executives
Speaker 1: or coaches. Um, it's it's yeah, it's the who's who
Speaker 1: of the NBA at this point. Do the scrimmages inform
Speaker 1: your opinions or open your eyes to things to the
Speaker 1: extent you can actually watch them, right, I mean that's
Speaker 1: the other part of it. Yeah, Um, well, you could
Speaker 1: always go back on video too. Yeah, it's similar to Portsmouth.
Speaker 1: You know, you identify some guys that maybe played, um,
Speaker 1: you know, their career in a defensive zone, so you
Speaker 1: get to see how they move their feet latter really
Speaker 1: on the perimeter and and hold up one on one,
Speaker 1: or you see maybe a guy that's played off the
Speaker 1: ball get get more opportunities to make plays for teammates
Speaker 1: or himself. Um. So it's those like specific things you
Speaker 1: kind of look for more more than just kind of
Speaker 1: generically watching and taking notes like you would during the year.
Speaker 1: Has the incorporation of the GE League Elite showcases that
Speaker 1: affected the way you're able to leave Chicago as far
Speaker 1: as the information you gather, Um, yeah, it's it's a
Speaker 1: it was a positive. It's just more access, more more
Speaker 1: more games to watch, more people to meet, more conversations
Speaker 1: I have with players. Um, the more the better for us.
Speaker 1: So this time of year, we are zeroing in on
Speaker 1: June twentieth, How fluid are things as far as views
Speaker 1: on players, decisions that might be made, moves that I
Speaker 1: would think you might to a certain extent try to
Speaker 1: line up to have ready in the can once draft
Speaker 1: night rolls around. Yeah, that the latter part of that's
Speaker 1: definitely you know, more of a Elton's wheelhouse from a
Speaker 1: from a strictly scouting perspective, it's it's just tightening up
Speaker 1: loose loose bows, I guess, or whatever that's saying is
Speaker 1: at this point because we've had I don't know, endless
Speaker 1: conversations and full staff meetings again and again and again.
Speaker 1: Um So, I don't think there's you know, something new
Speaker 1: from a talent or skill evaluation standpoint that that will
Speaker 1: shock us. If if there is, we probably didn't do
Speaker 1: a good job throughout the year. Um So. Now it's
Speaker 1: just a matter of formulating all of that and coming
Speaker 1: to an understanding of the players and where everybody fits
Speaker 1: relative to everybody else, and be able to present that
Speaker 1: to you know, Ellen and Alex Rucker and those guys,
Speaker 1: and and then you know, have their opinions overlaid over
Speaker 1: over what the scouting group has come up with throughout
Speaker 1: the year. Now, you talked about this the other day
Speaker 1: at one of the pre draft workouts, and Elton Brand
Speaker 1: mentioned this in his end of season press conference too,
Speaker 1: that this is now looking back to this time last year,
Speaker 1: really about a full year that some of the members
Speaker 1: of the front office have had working together, and while
Speaker 1: it wasn't something where you guys weren't familiar with each
Speaker 1: other this time last year, it's just another year of
Speaker 1: working together, knowing each other, being familiar with that type
Speaker 1: of setting. How much of a difference have you found
Speaker 1: that to make? Yeah, I mean getting getting the cadence
Speaker 1: of the workflow and how I think the biggest thing
Speaker 1: is understanding how the people above me want to consume
Speaker 1: information and how they learn best, and being able to
Speaker 1: take what the scouts provide and you know, manipulate in
Speaker 1: a way that is helpful or most helpful for the
Speaker 1: management team. It's kind of I think that's the primary
Speaker 1: goal of my role, is to be able to present
Speaker 1: stuff to those guys in ways that they find most hopeful.
Speaker 1: All right, well, Vince, if you are able to catch
Speaker 1: a few cat naps and continue to rack up those
Speaker 1: points for missus, Senior director of Scouting for the Philadelphia
Speaker 1: seventy six, get to sleep wherever you can, no question.
Speaker 1: Thanks Mat Awesome, thanks by great to catch up with
Speaker 1: Vince Rosmin. Great to speak with Mariol Shayak as well.
Speaker 1: Thank you for listening. New draft season podcasts coming your
Speaker 1: way once a week from now until the draft itself
Speaker 1: on June twentieth, so be on the lookout and check
Speaker 1: those feats. Have a great holiday weekend, Talk to you
Speaker 1: next time. See it.