WEBVTT - Draft Season: How 76ers Scouts Prepare for Draft 0:00:00.200 --> 0:00:04.400 One season ends and another is immediately upon us, and 0:00:04.559 --> 0:00:07.840 that would be draft season. We're excited. That's twenty four. 0:00:07.880 --> 0:00:09.440 I think there's going to be a lot of players 0:00:09.520 --> 0:00:12.000 of interest and then having a lot of assets as 0:00:12.000 --> 0:00:14.120 good and kind of lets you control what you want 0:00:14.120 --> 0:00:16.120 to do when some some goals and have some means 0:00:16.120 --> 0:00:18.400 to go and go and achieve them. That's Vince Rosman, 0:00:18.440 --> 0:00:21.040 who heads up the seventy six or scouting department. We'll 0:00:21.079 --> 0:00:23.799 hear from him and Mariol Shaya prospect who was in 0:00:23.840 --> 0:00:26.760 town for pre draft workout earlier this week. Game very 0:00:26.800 --> 0:00:29.720 versus I think, I mean Tea needs shooting, an ability 0:00:29.960 --> 0:00:31.880 of the parents. I think I spring that time to 0:00:31.920 --> 0:00:35.720 start diving into our draft season series. On this episode 0:00:36.159 --> 0:00:43.960 of the broadcast, back we are on the podcast How 0:00:44.080 --> 0:00:47.320 You Doing. I'm Brian Seltzer. Thanks so much for checking 0:00:47.360 --> 0:00:50.280 out this edition of the pod. We've got our first 0:00:50.360 --> 0:00:54.200 draft season episode of the spring coming up. But first 0:00:54.320 --> 0:01:00.960 reminders to please do subscribe Apple podcasts, Google podcast, tune 0:01:01.000 --> 0:01:05.760 in SoundCloud four great places to get our podcast feeds. 0:01:06.400 --> 0:01:08.360 All you got to do is type in Sixers podcast 0:01:08.480 --> 0:01:10.080 Network that will take you to where you need to 0:01:10.120 --> 0:01:14.039 be so you can never miss an episode. We've also 0:01:14.040 --> 0:01:16.240 got plenty of draft coverage for you to check out 0:01:16.280 --> 0:01:18.640 on our website sixers dot com, also on all of 0:01:18.640 --> 0:01:23.360 our social channels, as well profiles of individual players and 0:01:23.480 --> 0:01:27.240 recaps the first two workouts of the spring. If I'm 0:01:27.280 --> 0:01:33.000 being totally honest and upfront, last Tuesday, about forty eight 0:01:33.000 --> 0:01:36.400 hours after a Game seven of the Eastern Conference Semifinals 0:01:36.480 --> 0:01:40.160 came to an end, I honestly would have much rather 0:01:40.240 --> 0:01:43.920 been getting ready for the opener of the Conference finals 0:01:44.000 --> 0:01:47.760 in Milwaukee. Who wouldn't. That's just the type of year 0:01:47.880 --> 0:01:49.880 that you live to be a part of, and as 0:01:49.920 --> 0:01:52.840 a team you play for it. Of course, was four 0:01:52.880 --> 0:01:56.760 bounces not to be. But instead, on the flip side, I, 0:01:56.880 --> 0:02:00.440 along with probably many of you, we're tuned into ESPN 0:02:00.480 --> 0:02:05.760 an annual right of Spring passage focusing on this pick 0:02:05.880 --> 0:02:10.080 number fourteen will be made by the Boston Celtics. All right, 0:02:10.240 --> 0:02:13.280 this was originally Sacramentos pick, but it goes to Boston. 0:02:13.360 --> 0:02:15.240 If the pick had been number one overall would have 0:02:15.240 --> 0:02:19.120 been in Philadelphia. But Celtics, you've got it. Ah. Yes, 0:02:19.560 --> 0:02:22.919 the NBA Draft lottery in Chicago, for better or worse, 0:02:23.800 --> 0:02:25.400 might be the last one for a while that we 0:02:25.680 --> 0:02:28.040 pay close attention to, at least as far as the 0:02:28.080 --> 0:02:31.680 lottery is concerned. Seventy Sixers had a shot, a one 0:02:31.760 --> 0:02:35.040 percent shot of getting the Sacramento King's pick that would 0:02:35.040 --> 0:02:38.600 have conveyed to number one, but that wasn't the case. 0:02:38.800 --> 0:02:41.880 So the Boston Celtics, as you heard Rachel Nichols say, 0:02:42.600 --> 0:02:45.720 assume the rights to that pick at number fourteen. But 0:02:45.800 --> 0:02:47.440 all at all, the Sixers they are in a I 0:02:47.480 --> 0:02:50.200 think a really great spot to influence this year's draft. 0:02:50.240 --> 0:02:52.240 We're going to talk about that with Vince Rosman in 0:02:52.240 --> 0:02:54.679 a bit. The Sixers tied for the most picks in 0:02:54.720 --> 0:02:56.960 the league with five at number twenty four, thirty three, 0:02:57.080 --> 0:03:01.679 thirty four, forty two, and fifty four. And with all 0:03:01.720 --> 0:03:05.560 those picks in hand, it's been an important few days recently, 0:03:05.639 --> 0:03:08.600 an important few weeks and last month or so for 0:03:08.720 --> 0:03:11.280 members of the seventy Sixers. They were at the Combine 0:03:11.320 --> 0:03:14.000 in Chicago last week, and that was followed by the 0:03:14.000 --> 0:03:17.160 team's second pre draft workout this spring on Monday at 0:03:17.160 --> 0:03:20.680 the training complex in Camden. One of the participants who 0:03:20.760 --> 0:03:23.680 interested me and who was also in Chicago for not 0:03:23.800 --> 0:03:27.120 just the Combine but the NBA G League Elite camp 0:03:27.560 --> 0:03:32.440 Iowa State product Mariol Shayok Mario was an All American 0:03:32.440 --> 0:03:35.440 Honorable mention last year. He started his career for three 0:03:35.480 --> 0:03:39.000 seasons at UVA, then he transferred to Ames in two 0:03:38.880 --> 0:03:43.840 thousand seventeen, had a breakout two eighteen nineteen campaign, and 0:03:44.000 --> 0:03:46.480 we caught up with Shayok and asked him not just 0:03:46.520 --> 0:03:48.600 about the state of his game, but his impressions of 0:03:48.680 --> 0:03:51.920 these seventy sixers. It's history and great players got that's 0:03:51.920 --> 0:03:54.520 come through here and then obviously the current players that's 0:03:54.600 --> 0:03:58.280 kind of brought the franchise back to where supposed to be. 0:03:58.720 --> 0:04:00.600 And when you're on a court you see you know, 0:04:00.880 --> 0:04:04.680 Barkley Iverson, Irving Chamberlain, I mean, what is that like? 0:04:04.760 --> 0:04:06.400 Can you help you know, you mentioned the history, can 0:04:06.400 --> 0:04:07.480 you got to help it get caught up in that 0:04:07.520 --> 0:04:09.720 history thing? Yeah, it's crazy you've seeing that Iverson, Jerry 0:04:09.760 --> 0:04:12.480 Yess one of my favorite players growing up, um and 0:04:12.560 --> 0:04:15.560 obviously being from Canada, you remember Everyson killing us at 0:04:15.560 --> 0:04:18.680 OH one, Him and Vince Carter and obviously they had 0:04:18.680 --> 0:04:22.320 a good series uh this past playoff playoffs. So I mean, 0:04:22.360 --> 0:04:25.159 this history is just amazing to see as a young player, 0:04:25.240 --> 0:04:27.000 you know you're coming up. You mentioned the seventy six 0:04:27.120 --> 0:04:30.680 ers having a regeneration or regrowth. What stands out about 0:04:30.720 --> 0:04:33.520 the style of play the team has. I mean it's great. 0:04:33.520 --> 0:04:36.479 I mean the starting five obviously stands out the most 0:04:36.520 --> 0:04:38.920 just because the talent has an ability to play together. 0:04:38.920 --> 0:04:40.840 I think they really kind of faded out in the 0:04:40.839 --> 0:04:43.640 playoffs and Jimmy Butler and Joel and B lead in 0:04:43.680 --> 0:04:46.359 a way. You obviously got Reddick ability to space the floor, 0:04:46.400 --> 0:04:48.480 and then obviously Ben Simmons does a little bit of everything. 0:04:48.520 --> 0:04:50.800 So um, I mean the style of player. Then they 0:04:50.920 --> 0:04:53.440 they kind of just make it work within their their strength, 0:04:53.480 --> 0:04:55.320 so they could play fast, they could slow it out 0:04:55.360 --> 0:04:57.920 a game and having Joel and B post or space 0:04:57.960 --> 0:05:01.240 out of the floor. So it's just a very very 0:05:01.680 --> 0:05:04.120 style of play. So when you walk me through really 0:05:04.200 --> 0:05:06.479 from start to finish, and there's just your second workout, 0:05:06.520 --> 0:05:09.040 but from start to finish, like when you land here 0:05:09.120 --> 0:05:10.600 to when you get on the court to when you're 0:05:10.600 --> 0:05:13.120 wrapping up, what is this whole experience with the seventy 0:05:13.120 --> 0:05:14.440 six er has been like what if this has been 0:05:14.480 --> 0:05:16.240 some of the things that had you do It's been 0:05:16.240 --> 0:05:17.680 great I mean he came in kind of late from 0:05:17.680 --> 0:05:19.760 the common last night and it's got some food and 0:05:19.760 --> 0:05:22.680 went to sleep. And then this morning, I mean, they 0:05:22.680 --> 0:05:24.760 really took care of us. They got us some breakfast, 0:05:25.320 --> 0:05:28.880 the facility out there, which was crazy to see. So 0:05:29.040 --> 0:05:31.400 the whole facility here is amazing. And then it really 0:05:31.400 --> 0:05:33.040 took care of us. And then all all the coaches 0:05:33.200 --> 0:05:36.040 coaches here are really really helpful. They got us, they 0:05:36.040 --> 0:05:38.440 pushed us through and you got some good working. We'll 0:05:38.480 --> 0:05:40.960 talk about your career arc through college and that win. 0:05:41.080 --> 0:05:44.760 But just coming into this pre draft season Portsmouth Invitational, 0:05:44.839 --> 0:05:46.840 you shot the ball really well, did so the same 0:05:47.000 --> 0:05:49.240 at the combine. How are you feeling about the general 0:05:49.279 --> 0:05:51.440 state of your game right now? Feeling good. I'm still 0:05:51.480 --> 0:05:53.520 trying to get comfortable with these new settings and new 0:05:53.560 --> 0:05:56.839 players and playing against playing with and against new guys 0:05:57.000 --> 0:05:59.880 is it's definitely a challenge. It's especially coming from a 0:06:00.040 --> 0:06:02.840 college the college season where you're familiar with all the 0:06:02.880 --> 0:06:05.000 players you're playing with. Um, so it's new. But I 0:06:05.000 --> 0:06:06.320 think I'm doing well. I think I'm just trying to 0:06:06.320 --> 0:06:08.720 play to my strengths, stay confident and shoot the ball 0:06:08.760 --> 0:06:10.520 and do what I do in defense. I mean it's 0:06:10.520 --> 0:06:12.720 a common person, you know. I think from the outside, like, 0:06:12.920 --> 0:06:16.320 you've got all these executives watching you, coaches, general managers. 0:06:16.960 --> 0:06:18.640 How do you tune that out? Are you able to? 0:06:19.120 --> 0:06:20.719 Does it help you when you think of that sort 0:06:20.760 --> 0:06:22.800 of thing, How do you maintain focus? And it's a 0:06:22.960 --> 0:06:25.560 very important moment that you're working towards. That's the thing 0:06:25.560 --> 0:06:26.800 I just trying to not to think. I think I 0:06:26.800 --> 0:06:29.800 played better when I'm free and playing free. And I mean, 0:06:29.880 --> 0:06:32.840 obviously the executives and the coaches all can be intimidating 0:06:32.880 --> 0:06:34.360 if you let it, but honestly, it's what you want. 0:06:34.360 --> 0:06:36.360 It's when you're eventually gonna have to play in front 0:06:36.360 --> 0:06:39.279 of them, play a fund of many executives hopefully throughout 0:06:39.279 --> 0:06:41.200 my career, and I just got to stay confident no 0:06:41.240 --> 0:06:42.960 matter what, I just play my game and let the 0:06:42.960 --> 0:06:44.800 rest handle it. So, what were some of the things 0:06:44.800 --> 0:06:46.800 that they emphasized on the court during your drills and 0:06:46.839 --> 0:06:52.240 scrimmages and just go harden every rat the pace and 0:06:52.240 --> 0:06:53.880 it really just just really kept me moving. It was 0:06:53.920 --> 0:06:56.839 a really fast paced workout and so it really wasn't 0:06:56.880 --> 0:07:00.200 too time to dwell on misshots or anything, and to 0:07:00.200 --> 0:07:02.800 stay compent, spent the first three years of your college 0:07:02.800 --> 0:07:05.920 career at UVA, then you transferred to Iowa State. At 0:07:06.000 --> 0:07:07.480 UVA in those three years or were some of the 0:07:07.520 --> 0:07:09.880 biggest things you took away from your experience as far 0:07:09.880 --> 0:07:12.280 as your development as a player in a person. Oh Man, 0:07:12.440 --> 0:07:14.760 the UVA I mean, it was an amazing experience for me. 0:07:15.120 --> 0:07:18.400 Relationships I built there, but guys like Justin who was 0:07:18.440 --> 0:07:21.840 here last year, and Malcolm and all those guys helped 0:07:21.880 --> 0:07:24.840 me become the player I am today and a person today, 0:07:24.920 --> 0:07:26.960 just seeing how they worked and how they carry themselves. 0:07:27.280 --> 0:07:30.000 And then obviously with the coaching staff there, they're checking 0:07:30.040 --> 0:07:33.360 in on and really just they made me really a 0:07:33.400 --> 0:07:36.240 better person, and really I'll carry myself as a credit 0:07:36.240 --> 0:07:38.560 to them. I'd have to think defensively, that had to 0:07:40.240 --> 0:07:43.560 wise thy basketball wise. Obviously improved defensively, and then um, 0:07:43.560 --> 0:07:47.240 the ability to create with limited jibble to something I 0:07:47.280 --> 0:07:49.360 definitely got better at coming out of highchool and going 0:07:49.360 --> 0:07:52.120 to UVA. Just within their offense. You have the time 0:07:52.160 --> 0:07:55.320 at UVA and then people see breakout numbers. This past year. 0:07:55.320 --> 0:07:57.360 There was, of course the transfer season where you had 0:07:57.400 --> 0:07:59.280 to sit out, take me inside what was going on? 0:08:00.040 --> 0:08:02.360 Last year before this season, when you probably had time 0:08:02.360 --> 0:08:04.400 to work on your game developed, how did you prepare 0:08:04.440 --> 0:08:06.680 yourself to step up and step in the way you 0:08:06.680 --> 0:08:08.600 did this year? I mean I would say, I mean 0:08:09.640 --> 0:08:11.840 I had a year off I really to just take 0:08:11.920 --> 0:08:13.800 my time and really just dissect my game and get 0:08:13.800 --> 0:08:16.000 better in all aspects of my game. And then once 0:08:16.040 --> 0:08:17.559 this year came out, I was really wanted to trust 0:08:17.600 --> 0:08:19.840 my work and just play free. And Coach prom being 0:08:19.880 --> 0:08:21.680 an amazing coach he was, he put me in great 0:08:21.720 --> 0:08:24.240 spots to really excel. Where do you think your game 0:08:24.320 --> 0:08:25.840 is at right now as far as best fit for 0:08:25.880 --> 0:08:28.679 an NBA team? Um? I think on games very versatile. 0:08:28.720 --> 0:08:31.040 I think, I mean every NBA team needs shooting and 0:08:31.440 --> 0:08:33.760 an ability to defend. So I think I just bring that. 0:08:33.800 --> 0:08:36.640 I think it could score and really make shots, especially 0:08:36.679 --> 0:08:39.120 when open, and then my length of the defend on 0:08:39.160 --> 0:08:40.920 the one in three. So I think any NBA team 0:08:40.960 --> 0:08:43.600 could use that. What's the lasting impression that you want 0:08:43.600 --> 0:08:46.280 to leave an NBA organization with when you walk out 0:08:46.320 --> 0:08:49.559 the doors after they of a pre draft workout? Um, 0:08:49.640 --> 0:08:52.480 and that on bought in and to get in better 0:08:52.520 --> 0:08:55.200 and really improve my game. Um, than it's something I 0:08:55.240 --> 0:08:57.560 really take pride in, and then that I'm gonna do 0:08:57.880 --> 0:09:00.640 make winning plays on and off the court, and keeps 0:09:00.760 --> 0:09:05.120 giving all good stuff from Mariel Shayak, who also went 0:09:05.160 --> 0:09:09.000 to Blair Academy in New Jersey before the start of 0:09:09.000 --> 0:09:12.520 his collegiate career at Virginia. But this past season he 0:09:12.600 --> 0:09:16.280 was terrific, averaged over eighteen and a half points per game, 0:09:16.400 --> 0:09:19.680 just about five rebounds, two assists, shot really well from 0:09:19.760 --> 0:09:23.920 three at over thirty eight percent hits seventy one three pointers, 0:09:24.120 --> 0:09:27.600 and he's been shooting the ball really well in recent 0:09:27.640 --> 0:09:31.160 weeks at the Portsmouth Invitational at the three games there, 0:09:31.520 --> 0:09:34.319 and also in Chicago at the G League Elite Camp 0:09:34.400 --> 0:09:38.520 and during the combined scrimmages. So appreciate Mariel Shayak for 0:09:38.800 --> 0:09:40.560 taking a few minutes out of his visit with the 0:09:40.600 --> 0:09:45.600 seventy sixers to talk. We're gonna talk with Vince Rosman, 0:09:45.720 --> 0:09:48.439 Senior director of scouting for the seventy sixers, in just 0:09:48.480 --> 0:09:52.440 a few seconds. But it is almost upon us. 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It is no different for Vince Rosman. 0:11:04.120 --> 0:11:06.160 He's been with the seventy six Ers for the better 0:11:06.200 --> 0:11:08.080 part of a decade and a half. He is currently 0:11:08.120 --> 0:11:10.959 the club's senior director of Scouting and it is great 0:11:11.160 --> 0:11:13.719 to have him back on the podcast at this all 0:11:13.760 --> 0:11:16.559 important time of year. Vince, I'm not going to divulge 0:11:16.559 --> 0:11:20.400 any details or secrets about your recent itinerary. All I 0:11:20.480 --> 0:11:22.960 will say is that as of the morning of recording 0:11:22.960 --> 0:11:25.920 this podcast, you are just a few hours and removed 0:11:26.040 --> 0:11:28.400 being back in the Delaware Valley from being a few 0:11:28.480 --> 0:11:31.320 time zones away, and within a few more hours you'll 0:11:31.360 --> 0:11:33.719 be off to another time zone. So why don't we 0:11:33.760 --> 0:11:37.400 start with that? Just how NonStop is the pace this 0:11:37.400 --> 0:11:40.040 time here? I gotta imagine it's pretty crazy. Yeah, Actually, 0:11:40.120 --> 0:11:42.760 since the start or the end of the college season, 0:11:42.800 --> 0:11:46.240 it gets pretty nuts. So you go into multiple different 0:11:48.120 --> 0:11:51.360 like all star ish type events, whether it be from 0:11:51.400 --> 0:11:54.920 high school kids or college seniors. That's pretty much April. 0:11:54.960 --> 0:11:56.720 And then from April you go into the combine, and 0:11:56.760 --> 0:12:00.439 combine goes into both the in market workouts and the 0:12:00.440 --> 0:12:03.400 agent workouts, which are all over the place. So we're 0:12:03.400 --> 0:12:05.600 in that. We're in that mix right now, and it's 0:12:07.040 --> 0:12:08.640 it's a lot of travel. It's not my wist favorite 0:12:08.640 --> 0:12:11.440 time of year, but there are there has to be 0:12:11.480 --> 0:12:12.920 perks for her at the end of the day, right, 0:12:13.000 --> 0:12:15.800 some frequent flyer miles that sort of thing. Yeah, she 0:12:15.880 --> 0:12:21.600 takes advantage a new meaning to double a advantage. So 0:12:22.520 --> 0:12:26.800 how much new things are uncovered this time of year, 0:12:26.840 --> 0:12:29.200 about four weeks away from the draft itself. I gotta 0:12:29.280 --> 0:12:31.720 imagine there's certain guys who at the beginning of college 0:12:31.720 --> 0:12:34.600 season are on the radar of every team, and then 0:12:34.600 --> 0:12:38.040 as the season unfolds, there are more prospects that come along. 0:12:38.080 --> 0:12:41.440 But is it the case where some prospects pop at 0:12:41.480 --> 0:12:44.840 these showcases or group workouts or whether you bring in 0:12:44.920 --> 0:12:47.880 guys to the training complex here. I think the biggest 0:12:47.920 --> 0:12:52.400 thing is people don't necessarily understand how limited our access 0:12:52.520 --> 0:12:55.280 is to the players. So a lot of times this 0:12:55.400 --> 0:12:57.560 is our first chance to sit across the table and 0:12:57.600 --> 0:13:02.520 actually talk to them. Or similarly, it's our time to 0:13:02.640 --> 0:13:05.520 go to campus and really talk to coaches and get 0:13:05.520 --> 0:13:10.560 their feedback. Otherwise you're you're just kind of watching, and 0:13:10.679 --> 0:13:13.240 this level of detail you don't really get to until 0:13:13.440 --> 0:13:16.560 till this time of year, which is valuable. Like you, 0:13:16.559 --> 0:13:19.800 you want to know who they are as people and 0:13:20.200 --> 0:13:24.640 what their interactions have been like with you know, coaches 0:13:24.679 --> 0:13:29.839 and support staff and all that throughout their career. I'm 0:13:29.880 --> 0:13:32.640 not sure if it's fair to describe the interview process 0:13:32.679 --> 0:13:35.760 at the combine similar to something like speed dating, but 0:13:35.840 --> 0:13:38.520 it is very rapid. A lot of guys come in. 0:13:38.800 --> 0:13:40.560 But still I do have to think that there's even 0:13:40.640 --> 0:13:44.240 something that might emerge in those interactions, because if you think, 0:13:44.240 --> 0:13:46.400 even in any context or any walk of life, like 0:13:46.480 --> 0:13:49.880 I'm just thinking when you apply to college, you're thinking, Wow, 0:13:49.920 --> 0:13:53.079 I really hope I get an interview with my application 0:13:53.160 --> 0:13:55.160 rather than just someone reading my application, because there's just 0:13:55.200 --> 0:13:57.920 something that you hope you can either convey or someone 0:13:57.920 --> 0:14:00.960 else finds out about you through interpersonal dynamics. Right, that 0:14:01.000 --> 0:14:03.480 has to be similar to this. Yeah, it actually is 0:14:03.559 --> 0:14:06.880 very very speed dating like. But but that said, um, 0:14:07.080 --> 0:14:09.840 if you're interviewing somebody for any job, you want to 0:14:09.840 --> 0:14:11.360 be able to actually sit in front of them and 0:14:11.960 --> 0:14:13.720 talk to them and get a feel for who they 0:14:13.720 --> 0:14:16.120 are as people, and you know what their experiences have 0:14:16.240 --> 0:14:21.440 been like and what led them to this point. It. Yeah, 0:14:21.560 --> 0:14:23.640 like you just would want to know them as much 0:14:23.680 --> 0:14:26.080 as possible. With you, guys, getting into the thick of 0:14:26.080 --> 0:14:28.680 it right now, why don't you give us a timeline 0:14:28.720 --> 0:14:31.240 for the average person out there who might be listening. 0:14:31.680 --> 0:14:34.200 When this really starts for you guys, when you start 0:14:34.280 --> 0:14:41.480 digging into preparing for the next year's draft. It kind 0:14:41.480 --> 0:14:45.680 of never stops, honestly. So from from this draft, well 0:14:45.840 --> 0:14:51.800 we'll stop start scouting you know, international events of under 0:14:51.840 --> 0:14:55.560 eighteen and under nineteen and under twenty year old kids 0:14:55.600 --> 0:14:57.800 across the world. So that's July and August, and in 0:14:57.840 --> 0:15:02.680 August there's Nike camps and other you know, shoe company 0:15:02.720 --> 0:15:06.160 events that has high school and college kids for the 0:15:06.200 --> 0:15:08.920 next year. So so you you dive right back in, 0:15:10.600 --> 0:15:12.640 and you know that helps prepare you for the next 0:15:12.680 --> 0:15:16.720 college year, and from college you get right back to 0:15:16.760 --> 0:15:18.560 this point in the year. It's it's it's kind of 0:15:18.600 --> 0:15:22.720 a NonStop process. Literally, it is a planet full of 0:15:22.800 --> 0:15:25.360 prospects that you guys have to scour to try and 0:15:25.400 --> 0:15:28.200 find talent. How do you funnel it down? How does 0:15:28.240 --> 0:15:32.040 it go from the inverted pyramid type of look, I 0:15:32.040 --> 0:15:34.360 guess where it must be so broad to begin with, 0:15:34.400 --> 0:15:36.520 and then you try to narrow and whittle things down 0:15:36.560 --> 0:15:42.240 to zero and on potential targets. It's actually, I mean, 0:15:43.280 --> 0:15:45.280 thank goodness, it's probably a lot easier now than it 0:15:45.320 --> 0:15:47.440 was in the past. Now we have access to more data, 0:15:47.520 --> 0:15:52.240 way more video, so we're not so reliant on the 0:15:52.240 --> 0:15:55.360 happenstance of seeing a guy. There's a bunch of things 0:15:55.360 --> 0:15:57.600 and indicators that point us in the right direction before 0:15:57.600 --> 0:16:00.760 we get to that point. But yeah, it's it's it's 0:16:00.800 --> 0:16:04.760 not easy. Seventy six ers have five picks in the 0:16:04.880 --> 0:16:07.240 draft as we speak at this point in time. That's 0:16:07.240 --> 0:16:09.160 tied for the most in the league. Number twenty four, 0:16:09.760 --> 0:16:12.440 then thirty three, thirty forty two, fifty four. How do 0:16:12.440 --> 0:16:18.160 you guys feel about that stash of picks? We're excited, 0:16:18.480 --> 0:16:20.560 um at twenty four, I think there's gonna be a 0:16:20.560 --> 0:16:24.600 lot of players of interest. UM. And then ideally, you know, 0:16:24.640 --> 0:16:26.200 somewhere in the thirties are kind of looking at the 0:16:26.240 --> 0:16:29.920 same pool of player and then when you when you 0:16:31.200 --> 0:16:34.040 look further down the draft, hopefully you know there are 0:16:34.080 --> 0:16:38.440 some options whether we roster them or not, or stash 0:16:38.520 --> 0:16:41.160 them or get the trade out for future picks. UM. 0:16:41.800 --> 0:16:44.680 Having having a lot of assets as good. It gives 0:16:44.720 --> 0:16:48.880 you a lot of optionality and kind of lets you control, um, 0:16:49.480 --> 0:16:51.160 what you want to do when sent some goals and 0:16:51.240 --> 0:16:54.040 have some means to go and go and achieve them. 0:16:54.160 --> 0:16:56.520 I got to ask you about the King's pick because 0:16:56.560 --> 0:16:58.080 there was a chance not a great chance, but there 0:16:58.160 --> 0:17:00.480 was a chance, a one percent chance that you guys 0:17:00.480 --> 0:17:02.720 could have ended up with the number one overall pick 0:17:03.400 --> 0:17:06.359 in the draft. How did you guys view that internally? 0:17:06.359 --> 0:17:09.560 How was that possibility as remote as it might have 0:17:09.640 --> 0:17:14.520 been reconciled as you guys were watching the lottery unfold, 0:17:15.200 --> 0:17:17.639 I didn't actually think about it too much. I think 0:17:18.800 --> 0:17:20.399 were we fortunate enough to win it, I would have 0:17:20.400 --> 0:17:23.640 taken care of itself. Clearly, there was nothing we could 0:17:23.640 --> 0:17:26.200 have done to help help those odds at this point 0:17:28.480 --> 0:17:33.880 would have been a good day. With your tenure here 0:17:33.880 --> 0:17:35.840 with the team, you've been here for about a decade 0:17:35.920 --> 0:17:39.399 and a half, how would you describe the organizations in 0:17:39.440 --> 0:17:41.919 the front office's philosophy when it comes to the draft, 0:17:42.400 --> 0:17:44.960 things you look for, type of guys you may try 0:17:44.960 --> 0:17:47.359 to identify. Um. I think at this point it's a 0:17:47.400 --> 0:17:50.480 lot of the same stuff Brett consistently talks about in 0:17:50.960 --> 0:17:54.640 you know, postgame and post practice interviews, which is we're 0:17:54.640 --> 0:17:57.520 focused on guys especially you know now that we have 0:17:58.680 --> 0:18:02.360 been and Joe well and hopefully Jimmy and Tobias are back, 0:18:02.520 --> 0:18:04.639 that that can play off of those guys. And what 0:18:04.760 --> 0:18:06.800 that is is guys that can defend, Guys that can 0:18:06.800 --> 0:18:09.480 make open shots, Guys that know who they are and 0:18:09.600 --> 0:18:12.280 know what role they fill and and can excel in 0:18:12.320 --> 0:18:16.600 that role. And quite frankly, those are the types of 0:18:16.640 --> 0:18:18.440 guys you hope they get later in the draft. Anyway, 0:18:19.520 --> 0:18:22.280 the stars kind of washed themselves out a little bit earlier. 0:18:22.960 --> 0:18:25.320 There does have to be a simplification process, I would 0:18:25.320 --> 0:18:28.320 think to a certain degree when at this stage, now, 0:18:28.720 --> 0:18:31.359 what do we say about three years into the team 0:18:31.440 --> 0:18:35.520 putting itself in position to contend where you have pieces there, 0:18:35.720 --> 0:18:38.800 and then I would think you can just zero in 0:18:38.880 --> 0:18:41.359 more on the type of needs that need to be filled. 0:18:43.240 --> 0:18:44.720 Is that not always the case a little bit. It's 0:18:44.760 --> 0:18:47.359 there's a balance. You also don't want to to pass up, 0:18:48.640 --> 0:18:51.760 you know, uber talents that just happen to fall. You 0:18:51.800 --> 0:18:55.520 want to keep your options open. But there's definitely, you know, 0:18:57.040 --> 0:18:59.080 I don't know if it's specific to us, but league wide, 0:19:00.080 --> 0:19:03.040 unique guys that can defend on the perimeter and switch 0:19:03.080 --> 0:19:07.760 and hold their own in space, and then everybody needs shooters. 0:19:07.760 --> 0:19:10.359 So it's it's not really a secret at this point. 0:19:11.200 --> 0:19:13.240 I know, you guys in the scouting department have a 0:19:13.240 --> 0:19:16.320 handful of people who are in here for their first 0:19:16.400 --> 0:19:19.280 or second seasons and other guys who have been here 0:19:19.400 --> 0:19:24.200 for generations from your experience for yourself, do you ever 0:19:24.280 --> 0:19:27.240 stop learning about what it takes to be a good 0:19:27.240 --> 0:19:33.359 talent evaluator? No, I mean, hopefully we are good talent 0:19:34.080 --> 0:19:36.760 talent evaluators. I think in the summer we do a 0:19:36.760 --> 0:19:40.480 good job of sitting down and kind of having postmortems 0:19:40.480 --> 0:19:42.639 over of the past year and what we could have 0:19:42.680 --> 0:19:45.399 done better and how you can you know, what are 0:19:45.400 --> 0:19:47.520 we missing, how are we thinking about players? And what 0:19:47.880 --> 0:19:52.680 can we do to better evaluate talent, better, collect intel, 0:19:52.840 --> 0:19:58.800 get more accurate intel, um better format processes, so we're 0:19:58.800 --> 0:20:03.560 ready earlier in the year. UM there. Yeah, there's there's 0:20:03.560 --> 0:20:07.159 always a learning process, and I think the different perspectives 0:20:07.200 --> 0:20:09.920 we have on staff is only helpful um to come 0:20:10.000 --> 0:20:13.919 up with better solutions to those questions. What makes for 0:20:14.000 --> 0:20:17.439 a good projection when it comes to prospects, How do 0:20:17.480 --> 0:20:20.000 you tell if a guy is NBA ready? I'm sure 0:20:20.119 --> 0:20:22.280 varies from player to player, but what are some of 0:20:22.280 --> 0:20:24.439 the things that that jump out and let you know 0:20:24.520 --> 0:20:26.159 whether a guy has a shot or he might be 0:20:26.160 --> 0:20:30.560 ready to make that leap to this level. I wish 0:20:30.640 --> 0:20:36.840 there was that UM, like one simple answer to that question. UM, 0:20:37.000 --> 0:20:40.800 oftentimes we don't. I mean, based on the amount of 0:20:40.840 --> 0:20:42.520 players that league as a whole gets wrong. I don't 0:20:42.520 --> 0:20:45.600 know that we can necessarily know. UM, but I think 0:20:45.800 --> 0:20:48.200 character drives a lot of that, and the guys will 0:20:48.240 --> 0:20:51.400