WEBVTT - The Uprising Returns to China

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<v Speaker 1>We live in an age of uprising. From Haiti to

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<v Speaker 1>Hong Kong, from Ecuador de Sudan, from Chile to Myanmar,

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<v Speaker 1>from the US to Iran, an entire generation has been

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<v Speaker 1>confronted with the horror of our world and took the

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<v Speaker 1>simple expedient of picking up a brick and throwing it

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<v Speaker 1>at a cop. Yet as the uprising swept the globe,

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<v Speaker 1>there was one country where it was considered impossible. Every expert,

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<v Speaker 1>every policymaker, every kid on a street corner new there

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<v Speaker 1>was simply no chance of a mass treet movement in China.

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<v Speaker 1>On Monday, it was unimaginable. On Friday, it was everywhere

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<v Speaker 1>welcome to it could happen here. What we've been watching

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<v Speaker 1>for the past three weeks now is the failure of

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<v Speaker 1>one of the most sophisticated political regimes in human history,

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<v Speaker 1>a political, social, and economic regime designed specifically to stop

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<v Speaker 1>this one moment. After thirty years of repression, the national

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<v Speaker 1>mass street movement has returned to China. This is what

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<v Speaker 1>it was all about. Everything from the censorship policies to

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<v Speaker 1>union busting to subsidize mortgages from a rising Chinese middle class.

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<v Speaker 1>It was about keeping people from going back to the

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<v Speaker 1>streets to make even the idea of it impossible. And

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<v Speaker 1>yet here we are. In one sense, the party is

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<v Speaker 1>little to fear from the round of protests, barring an

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<v Speaker 1>immense intensification of violence, which at the moment seems extremely unlikely.

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<v Speaker 1>But in another sense, the CCP is perhaps the last

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<v Speaker 1>regime on earth that truly remembers the previous age of revolution,

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<v Speaker 1>that remembers when the workers took Shanghai in sixty seven,

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<v Speaker 1>very nearly took Beijing and eighty nine. These are people

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<v Speaker 1>who understand that China's political system is built on shaving

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<v Speaker 1>a sleeping bear, and no matter how profitable that system is,

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<v Speaker 1>there's always a chance that one day that bear is

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<v Speaker 1>going to wake up. Now the bear isn't fully awake yet.

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<v Speaker 1>We are not shing in China full scale uprising a

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<v Speaker 1>la Sudan or Myanmar, But that bear, the air to

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<v Speaker 1>maybe the most militant working class and modern world has

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<v Speaker 1>ever seen, is starting to open its eyes. So what

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<v Speaker 1>is the CCP currently facing. Since about November, there have

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<v Speaker 1>been widespread anti government protests in China, Unlike anything we've

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<v Speaker 1>seen in the last thirty years. These protests are everywhere.

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<v Speaker 1>They're in Beijing, They're in Nanjing, They're in Shanghai. There

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<v Speaker 1>in guang Show, there in shing John, We'll get back

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<v Speaker 1>to that one in a second. There in Wuhan, reports

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<v Speaker 1>I saw said that there were protests at seventy seven universities.

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<v Speaker 1>That number is almost certainly an under account now, and

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<v Speaker 1>these student protests are not just taking place at small

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<v Speaker 1>colleges in the middle of nowhere. There were protests at

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<v Speaker 1>singh Qua University, which for an American audience, I would

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<v Speaker 1>compare to China's version of Harvard. It's the college that

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<v Speaker 1>produces the upper echelon. If the Chinese ruling class, Hi

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<v Speaker 1>Jimping graduated from there, so did his predecessor, Hu Jintao.

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<v Speaker 1>And the only reason that jujuin how his predecessor did

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<v Speaker 1>not graduate from there, is that that guy was so

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<v Speaker 1>old that he went to college under the Japanese occupation.

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<v Speaker 1>When I was originally writing this, I had a joke

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<v Speaker 1>here about how the only city where there haven't been

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<v Speaker 1>protest is Harbin, which is the city in the absolute

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<v Speaker 1>middle of nowhere in northn China. But no, I googled it,

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<v Speaker 1>and it turns out there have been protests in bloody Harbon.

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<v Speaker 1>For people who aren't very good at Chinese geography, which

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<v Speaker 1>is probably most people, this means these protests are everywhere.

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<v Speaker 1>There in the north, there in the south, there in

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<v Speaker 1>the east, there in the west, there in the far West.

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<v Speaker 1>And it's true that a lot of these protests are

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<v Speaker 1>not that big, although some of them are absolutely massive.

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<v Speaker 1>But the importance here is that this is the first

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<v Speaker 1>time in thirty years that we've seen widespread national protests

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<v Speaker 1>over a single issue in China, the anormity of which

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<v Speaker 1>is compounded by the fact that people in the streets

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<v Speaker 1>of cities like Shanghai are openly calling for the fall

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<v Speaker 1>of the CCP and si Jianping, something that by itself

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<v Speaker 1>can get you a decade in prison just for saying.

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<v Speaker 1>We can ask what these protests are acts Lee about.

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<v Speaker 1>The version you see in the American press is that

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<v Speaker 1>these are anti lockdown protests, are protests against China's COVID

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<v Speaker 1>zero policy, or that there's also pro democracy protests against

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<v Speaker 1>the entire regime. And this is sort of true as

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<v Speaker 1>far as it goes, but it doesn't capture the core

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<v Speaker 1>of what's going on, which is that what we're seeing

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<v Speaker 1>is a widespread fusion of labor rebellion, anti police brutality, protests,

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<v Speaker 1>and a revolt against the authoritarian state. The thing that's

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<v Speaker 1>brought all of this together is the CCPs COVID policy.

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<v Speaker 1>But that's because that policy is the most visible and

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<v Speaker 1>most concentrated expression of the state's general authoritarian is a

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<v Speaker 1>bit brutal war against the working class. We can learn

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<v Speaker 1>a lot about what's actually been happening by going back

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<v Speaker 1>a little bit to the very start of the protests.

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<v Speaker 1>There are three specific events that sparked the protests, two

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<v Speaker 1>of which are pretty well covered, and one of which

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<v Speaker 1>has been basically ignored because of how long ago it happened.

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<v Speaker 1>The first arc is essentially an event in its own right.

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<v Speaker 1>This is what I would call the fox Con revolts,

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<v Speaker 1>a series of worker uprisings against the manufacturer of the iPhone,

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<v Speaker 1>which with a single factory, controls vast portions of the

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<v Speaker 1>regional economy of Hainan Province. Whereas large as factory is based.

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<v Speaker 1>The fox Con revolt is I'm brewing for a long time.

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<v Speaker 1>It begun essentially when fox Con began to impose what's

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<v Speaker 1>called the closed loop system. The closed loop system was

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<v Speaker 1>originally developed by the NBA to run an NBA season

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<v Speaker 1>during the beginning of the pandemic. The idea is that

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<v Speaker 1>you keep everyone inside a closed loop. This means that

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<v Speaker 1>everyone in the production process has no contact with the

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<v Speaker 1>outside world at all for as long as the manufacturing

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<v Speaker 1>cycle goes. The CCP started adopting the closed loop as

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<v Speaker 1>they hit problems with their twin imperatives to both stop

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<v Speaker 1>COVID and also to make sure that fox Con hit

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<v Speaker 1>its production targets so Apple could have enough iPhones for

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<v Speaker 1>the Christmas rush. The result was that as an October

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<v Speaker 1>wave of infections hit Hangan province, where fox CON's largest

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<v Speaker 1>factory was located, two hundred thousand workers were put into

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<v Speaker 1>a closed loop system, which meant they were trapped in

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<v Speaker 1>the factory in their dormitories. In order to keep this

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<v Speaker 1>factory running, fox Con needs about a hundred thousand migrant workers.

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<v Speaker 1>The problem, from Capital's perspective with microt workers is that

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<v Speaker 1>they can, if things get bad enough, just go home,

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<v Speaker 1>and that's exactly what happens. Workers inside the fox Con

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<v Speaker 1>plants started to be quarantined with people who were sick

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<v Speaker 1>in the same dormitory and It's worth noting here that

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<v Speaker 1>these dormitories are tiny. The conditions even outside of lockdown

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<v Speaker 1>are atrocious, and when people were suddenly getting quarantined with

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<v Speaker 1>people who were sick, workers essentially just said no and

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<v Speaker 1>started to stage massive breakouts. There are incredible videos of

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<v Speaker 1>these trains of people like along the road walking home

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<v Speaker 1>as sort of hitching rides on people's trucks fleeing if factory.

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<v Speaker 1>We don't actually know how many workers escaped, but it

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<v Speaker 1>was enough to be a massive problem for Capital. Again,

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<v Speaker 1>they need these workers in order to make enough iPhones

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<v Speaker 1>to sell for Christmas. Current estimates suggest that Apple is

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<v Speaker 1>somewhere between eleven and fifteen million units behind what it

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<v Speaker 1>needs to make the Christmas rush. So Fox Con had

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<v Speaker 1>the local government recruiting people to go work in the factory.

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<v Speaker 1>What they told these workers was that if they entered

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<v Speaker 1>the closed loop for thirty days, they'd be given three

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<v Speaker 1>thousand yawn, which is about four hundred and fifteen dollars

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<v Speaker 1>to live on for the next month, and then get

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<v Speaker 1>paid thirty on or about four dollars an hour, and

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<v Speaker 1>then after the end of the next dirty days they'd

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<v Speaker 1>get another three thousand john in the US, this would

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<v Speaker 1>be a subminimum wage poverty job for a Chinese worker.

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<v Speaker 1>This is a lot of money, or it would have

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<v Speaker 1>been had it not been for one minor problem. All

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<v Speaker 1>of it was bullshit. Fox Con and the CCP were

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<v Speaker 1>lying out of their asses after workers who are already

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<v Speaker 1>in the closed loop. They learned that the two three

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<v Speaker 1>thousand yuan bonuses weren't going to be paid until March

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<v Speaker 1>and May of next year, meaning that in order to

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<v Speaker 1>get what they were promised for two months of work,

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<v Speaker 1>they were going to have to work for seven months. Also,

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<v Speaker 1>the thirty you on an hour wage that they were

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<v Speaker 1>promised was a lie. They were getting paid substantially less

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<v Speaker 1>than that. So on Tuesday the November, workers who had

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<v Speaker 1>emerged from quarantine to start work only to learn that

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<v Speaker 1>they had been systematically lied to by both the governments

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<v Speaker 1>and Chinese and Taiwanese capitalists, came out of their dormitories

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<v Speaker 1>and demanded that they either get their money or be

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<v Speaker 1>allowed to leave. There's another part of this account that

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<v Speaker 1>I think complicates a lot of the sort of narratives

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<v Speaker 1>that we've heard about what the Chinese prostor about that

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<v Speaker 1>did not make the Western press at all, which is

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<v Speaker 1>that these workers were also demanding that their bosses, quote,

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<v Speaker 1>implement pandemic prevention and control measures. Um, it's not entirely

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<v Speaker 1>clue what the specific demands refers to. It seems to

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<v Speaker 1>be about not quarantining sick people in the same dorms

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<v Speaker 1>as healthy people, a thing that seems relatively obvious, but

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<v Speaker 1>capitalism regardless. The product of bosses ignoring these demands was

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<v Speaker 1>several days of full scale fighting with the police. On

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<v Speaker 1>November twenty three, a bunch of videos began to spread

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<v Speaker 1>of workers taking those metal police barricades that you see

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<v Speaker 1>all the time in the US that are essentially an

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<v Speaker 1>arch with a bunch of bars and not get into

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<v Speaker 1>a flat base. You've you've probably seen these picking them

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<v Speaker 1>up and straight up throwing them at cops or grabbing

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<v Speaker 1>them and beating police riot shields with them. I have

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<v Speaker 1>I have never seen anything like it. It was absolutely wild.

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<v Speaker 1>At this point, after several days of fighting, after their

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<v Speaker 1>own regular security people literally refused to show up to

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<v Speaker 1>go fight these workers, and police from outside had to

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<v Speaker 1>be called in. Fox Con gave up said okay, we

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<v Speaker 1>will give you ten thousand yond to literally leave right now.

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<v Speaker 1>Please just stop, and a lot of people took the

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<v Speaker 1>money and left, And in any other year, in any

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<v Speaker 1>other moment, that would have been the end of it.

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<v Speaker 1>The Fox Con riots would be another episode in the

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<v Speaker 1>never ending series of they tried not to pay us

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<v Speaker 1>riots that are the most common one of the most

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<v Speaker 1>common forms of workers protests in China. Instead, on Thanksgiving

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<v Speaker 1>Day in the United States, videos started to circulate of

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<v Speaker 1>a fire in a residential block in a room Cheet,

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<v Speaker 1>the capital of shing Jong. There are several videos of

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<v Speaker 1>the fire. In one that journalists were able to verify,

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<v Speaker 1>you can hear people screaming from inside the building as

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<v Speaker 1>they tried and failed to escape the flames. Further videos

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<v Speaker 1>showed that cops had barricaded off the streets with metal

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<v Speaker 1>wires as a way to enforcing John's one hundred day

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<v Speaker 1>long lockdown, which prevented firefighters from getting to the scene.

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<v Speaker 1>Firefighters can be seen firing water hoses at the building,

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<v Speaker 1>only for the hoses arc to fall shorts trapped behind

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<v Speaker 1>barricades that prevented them from any closer. Speculation about whether

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<v Speaker 1>the doors of the apartment building themselves have been sealed

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<v Speaker 1>shut with locks or barricaded from the outside, as had

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<v Speaker 1>happened to so many other people's homes during the lockdown

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<v Speaker 1>ran rampant. One video I saw from another city appeared

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<v Speaker 1>to show workers and has met suits who become known

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<v Speaker 1>as the Big Whites, literally welding someone's door shut to

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<v Speaker 1>keep them in. To make matters worse, the head of

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<v Speaker 1>the rooms she city Fire rescue department blamed the families

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<v Speaker 1>for their own deaths, saying quote some residents abilities to

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<v Speaker 1>rescue themselves were too weak. These are the videos the

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<v Speaker 1>fragments of nightmares brought to life that started the mass protests.

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<v Speaker 1>This is a revolution scene. At thirty second intervals, everyone

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<v Speaker 1>is trying to beat the sensors. Clips float back and

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<v Speaker 1>forth between weach at, Twitter, Telegram back to Weachat again. Ironically,

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<v Speaker 1>many sensors were already home for the weekend, allowing clips

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<v Speaker 1>and posts that otherwise would have been removed immediately to

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<v Speaker 1>circulate for hours, sometimes even days. These brought back the

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<v Speaker 1>memory of the Third Spark, the one that's basically been

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<v Speaker 1>forgotten about in the West, if anyone even cared to

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<v Speaker 1>know about it in the first place. In September, a

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<v Speaker 1>bus full of people with COVID and Guangzho that the

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<v Speaker 1>government was shipping to a quarantine center, crashed and killed

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<v Speaker 1>twenty seven people, wounding twenty others. Conditions in these centers,

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<v Speaker 1>which COVID patients are often forced to go to rather

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<v Speaker 1>than quarantining in their homes, are atrocious. Pictures and videos

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<v Speaker 1>circulate constantly of bathrooms covered in human ship from failing

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<v Speaker 1>drainage systems. As China has already over tax medical systems

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<v Speaker 1>simply failed to keep up with the demands on a

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<v Speaker 1>place by the government, which, like the American government has

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<v Speaker 1>and continues to systematically refuse to invest in medical infrastructure.

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<v Speaker 1>Intimate familiarity with these wretched conditions and the raw horror

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<v Speaker 1>at the s and Xing John and Guangzho sparked protests

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<v Speaker 1>across the country. In a room sheet and now seventy

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<v Speaker 1>Han City under constant police occupation, Han protesters appeared to

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<v Speaker 1>be moved in solidarity with the weaker families killed in

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<v Speaker 1>the fire and fought the police with a ferocity unmatched

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<v Speaker 1>anywhere but the migrant worker villages of Guangzho along the

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<v Speaker 1>Parer River Delta, one of China's great manufacturing hubs. These

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<v Speaker 1>desperate struggles were given relatively little attention by a Western

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<v Speaker 1>media class enamored with the image of students carrying blank,

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<v Speaker 1>white pieces of paper to protest the censorship, a common

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<v Speaker 1>form of protests in places like Hong Kong. This time,

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<v Speaker 1>at least, they were tied to a particularly funny piece

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<v Speaker 1>of media censorship. As protests mounted, people started posting an

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<v Speaker 1>article version of a speech by Mao called let the

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<v Speaker 1>People Speak, The Sky will Not Fall. Chinese censors quickly

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<v Speaker 1>ran into a classic CCP problem, which is that in

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<v Speaker 1>a state whose heroes are communist revolutionaries, celebrated historical figures

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<v Speaker 1>produce an immense repertoire of slogans and quotes for subsequent

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<v Speaker 1>generations and revolutionaries to draw from, which has caused the CCP,

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<v Speaker 1>at various points in time to ban the opening of

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<v Speaker 1>its own national anthem arise Ye who refused to be slaves.

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<v Speaker 1>As sensors banned Let the People speak, the Guy will

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<v Speaker 1>not Fall. People began posting the article, but with the

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<v Speaker 1>words replaced by squares. This too was also deleted, and

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<v Speaker 1>then posting simply blanks white squares themselves, which saw their

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<v Speaker 1>reflection in the students in the streets. The CCP, in

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<v Speaker 1>turn retreated to its traditional tactic of blaming the protests

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<v Speaker 1>on foreign forces interfering in China, a claim which is

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<v Speaker 1>less than credible on a country that has rolled up

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<v Speaker 1>the CIA's entire in country intelligence network at least once

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<v Speaker 1>in the last decade. There's an incredible exchange that has

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<v Speaker 1>made the rounds between a cop who is telling a

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<v Speaker 1>group of protesters that there are quote foreign forces around

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<v Speaker 1>manipulating the protests, who is immediately yelled at by a

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<v Speaker 1>guy screaming, who are the born forces? Marks and angles

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<v Speaker 1>Stalin and Lenin. Another man appears and asks, Hi, can

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<v Speaker 1>I ask if it was foreign forces who started the

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<v Speaker 1>fire in Shing John? Was the guigo bus overturned by

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<v Speaker 1>foreign forces? Another man grabs the mic and says, was

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<v Speaker 1>everyone told to come here by foreign forces? The crowd

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<v Speaker 1>shouts no. He then makes an incredibly obvious point, we

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<v Speaker 1>can't even access to foreign internet. How are foreign forces

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<v Speaker 1>meant to be communicating with us? Another man says, we

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<v Speaker 1>only have domestic forces, not allowing us to govern themselves.

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<v Speaker 1>Where are these foreign forces from the moon? Still managing

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<v Speaker 1>these accusations to become a constant part of the protests,

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<v Speaker 1>with calls from protesters to stop chanting things like down

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<v Speaker 1>with the CCP, and attempts to keep the demands focused

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<v Speaker 1>on COVID policy like ending COVID zero. And this is

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<v Speaker 1>where things get incredibly muddled by a Western press that

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<v Speaker 1>decided to stop giving a shit about COVID deaths a

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<v Speaker 1>year ago, and a set of contrarians are ring that no, actually,

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<v Speaker 1>China's COVID policy is actually good. This entire debate hinges

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<v Speaker 1>on the conflation of the state of government policy of

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<v Speaker 1>zero COVID, which is an attempt to stop all cases

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<v Speaker 1>of COVID, and the actual execution of the policy, which

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<v Speaker 1>has taken the form of a war against China's working

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<v Speaker 1>class and a set of draconian police state abuses. One

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<v Speaker 1>thing that Western quote unquote experts have been quick to

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<v Speaker 1>point out is that will the CCP has to keep

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<v Speaker 1>doing COVID zero or one point five million people will die.

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<v Speaker 1>There was a tiny bit of truth to this in

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<v Speaker 1>that one reason Chinese COVID restriction so so harsh is

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<v Speaker 1>that if COVID was simply let rip like it has

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<v Speaker 1>been in the US, it would go through China's largely

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<v Speaker 1>unvaccinated rural elderly population like a chainsaw, and unlike in

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<v Speaker 1>the US, if a million people died in China because

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<v Speaker 1>the government fucked up a pandemic response, party officials will

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<v Speaker 1>be getting beaten to death in the streets. And part

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<v Speaker 1>of the reason for the crisis in China in the

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<v Speaker 1>first place is that the rest of the world a

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<v Speaker 1>up on trying to contain COVID entirely. If the rest

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<v Speaker 1>of the world had, you know, done their jobs and

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<v Speaker 1>stamped out the virus, none of us would be here

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<v Speaker 1>right now. On the other hand, no, absolutely not. You

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<v Speaker 1>do not actually need to wild people into their houses

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<v Speaker 1>or drag them by force out of their home so

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<v Speaker 1>they can die and bus crashes on their way to

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<v Speaker 1>unsafe and unsanitary pseudo hospitals with bathroom floors literally covered

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<v Speaker 1>ship in order to contain the pandemic. Lots of pandemics

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<v Speaker 1>across human history have been contained without doing this ship

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<v Speaker 1>just because the two great world powers have decided that

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<v Speaker 1>the COVID responses are kill a million people by forcing

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<v Speaker 1>everyone back to work so that no one has to

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<v Speaker 1>actually deal with the political consequences of telling a bunch

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<v Speaker 1>of unbelievably deranged and heavily armed fascist no and lock

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<v Speaker 1>two people in a factory and force them to make

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<v Speaker 1>iPhones and then beat the absolute shit out of them

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<v Speaker 1>when it turns out you lied to them about their pay.

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<v Speaker 1>Doesn't mean that there aren't other options that we could

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<v Speaker 1>take for pandemic responses if we decided to stop letting

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<v Speaker 1>a bunch of venal and corrupt assholes rule us all.

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<v Speaker 1>And this is something that people in China also understand.

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<v Speaker 1>Even if the Western press corps dead set on presenting

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<v Speaker 1>their demands as if they're American anti maskers, you can

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<v Speaker 1>tell obviously the Chinese protesters are not simply a copy

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<v Speaker 1>of right wing American fascists. By simply looking at a

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<v Speaker 1>picture of a protest and seeing how many people are

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<v Speaker 1>wearing masks. China is not the US. Regular people actually

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<v Speaker 1>do care about containing the pandemic. This is why there

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<v Speaker 1>is a real pandemic response in the first place, after

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<v Speaker 1>the government utterly boshed it. If you look at the

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<v Speaker 1>actual demands of the protesters, you will see things that

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<v Speaker 1>normally would seem more at home with liberal American protesters

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<v Speaker 1>attempting to see pandemic restrictions enforced properly, Things like our

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<v Speaker 1>pandemic response must be based on science. But people, even

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<v Speaker 1>people who don't want to die of a plague, do

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<v Speaker 1>not want to be horribly abused by cops or horrifically

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<v Speaker 1>exploited by the state and capitalists. And that, I think

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<v Speaker 1>is something we do all understand. Only time can tell

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<v Speaker 1>what will happen to these protests. The government is quietly

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<v Speaker 1>making concessions and not so quietly hunting down people who

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<v Speaker 1>took to the streets. It is entirely possible that the

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<v Speaker 1>protest will simply die, and that in two or three

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<v Speaker 1>years most people will have forgot they ever happened. From

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<v Speaker 1>a sort of brutal materialist perspective, however, it seems unlikely

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<v Speaker 1>China's social system could function fine as long as growth

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<v Speaker 1>was at fifteen percent or ten percent, or even eight percent.

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<v Speaker 1>But when growth inevitably comes down to two percent, but

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<v Speaker 1>the deal of keep your head down and everyone will

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<v Speaker 1>get rich starts to look a lot less attractive. COVID

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<v Speaker 1>is simply intensified all of the traditional contradictions inside Chinese

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<v Speaker 1>society and made visible the horrors that previously had been obscured,

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<v Speaker 1>and it seems unlikely that those contradictions will someday vanish.

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<v Speaker 1>But here in the presence, the impossible continues, and every

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<v Speaker 1>day it does is another day that the gates of

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<v Speaker 1>possibility and sh a bit further open. This espina could

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