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Speaker 1: Welcome to a Good Game with Sarah Spain, where we're

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Speaker 1: hoping that Trinity Rodman's Call her Daddy interview goes mainstream

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Speaker 1: It's Friday, December twentieth, and on today's show, we'll give

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Speaker 1: fact you about UNC women's soccer success, and what the

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Speaker 1: fact that puts their dominance in even more context. Plus

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Speaker 1: our little trio finally decides on a name. It's all

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Speaker 1: coming up right after this Welcome back slices, Happy Friday.

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Speaker 1: Here's what you need to know today in NWSL news,

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Speaker 1: per Sports Illustrated, forward Lynn Williams and goalkeeper Cassie Miller

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Speaker 1: join Gotham back in twenty twenty three and has been

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Speaker 1: including helping them to their NWSL championship win in twenty

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Speaker 1: five matches. In lacrosse News, Athletes Unlimited has decided to

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Speaker 1: suspend its Pro Lacrosse League indefinitely, effective immediately. AU released

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Speaker 1: next few years were cited as obstacles which make it

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Speaker 1: impossible to project the league's growth over that period. AU

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Speaker 1: in their final season and the nineteen years that follow.

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Speaker 1: In Pro Hoops, it feels like Asia Wilson racks up

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Speaker 1: Slice says, it's time for the triumphant return of one

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Speaker 1: of our favorite segments. Yes, and now, if you've been

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Speaker 1: our conversation with sophomore sensation Juju Watkins. Last season, in

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Speaker 1: When we come back, We're actually gonna pick a trio

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Speaker 1: Welcome back to Slices. We're bringing in producers Mish and

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Speaker 2: I think I was the one that originally pitched the grove,

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Speaker 2: I just I agree, Mesh, conspiratorial sounds like we got

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Speaker 1: We stuff going on you know, I love drama. I

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Speaker 1: You know what, You've opened up a door for potential

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Speaker 3: That's not from high school musical excuse me me, Oh,

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Speaker 1: Big Citrus. Time for a little good game. Good game

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Speaker 1: fact you with the UNC women's soccer team winning the

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Speaker 1: twenty twenty four NCAA title. An impressive street continues. So

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