WEBVTT - S12, Ep4: Back to the Water

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<v Speaker 1>It's an unseasonably warm day in October twenty twenty four.

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<v Speaker 1>Rolling hills covered in golden grasses stretch on either side

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<v Speaker 1>of Highway eighteen oh six on the Standing Rock Sioux Reservation,

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<v Speaker 1>and I'm riding in a truck with Doug crow Ghost.

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<v Speaker 1>He leads the Standing Rocks Sioo Tribes's Department of Water Resources.

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<v Speaker 1>Behind us is a truck pulling upontoon boat. We're with

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<v Speaker 1>a crew of people heading to the Missouri River about

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<v Speaker 1>ten miles downstream from the Dakota Access Pipeline, which Doug

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<v Speaker 1>calls Dapple.

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<v Speaker 2>We're documenting that if there's a pipeline break. Dapple's saying

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<v Speaker 2>that they can get these big skimmer boats on the

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<v Speaker 2>water to go up there to start getting rid of

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<v Speaker 2>the oil, and we've been saying, hell no, there's no way,

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<v Speaker 2>but we're.

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<v Speaker 3>Gonna document in any way, and we're gonna drive along

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<v Speaker 3>take pictures of there's some certain.

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<v Speaker 1>They're trying to find out if the Missouri River is

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<v Speaker 1>high enough so that emerging seaboats could clean up an

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<v Speaker 1>oil spill.

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<v Speaker 4>But the catches.

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<v Speaker 1>For our plan today to work, we have to be

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<v Speaker 1>able to get our boat on the river, and as

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<v Speaker 1>we arrive at the marina, it becomes clear that a

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<v Speaker 1>pontoon ride might not be happening today. Doug starts chatting

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<v Speaker 1>through the window with the local guy.

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<v Speaker 3>Are you freaking kidding me? It's he can't it's unusable.

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<v Speaker 4>The water level is too low.

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<v Speaker 3>You think you can get that pontoon in there? No

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<v Speaker 3>way gets stuck. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>To some degree, this proves Doug's point. He figures out,

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<v Speaker 1>if we can't even get the pontoon on the water,

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<v Speaker 1>then Energy Transfer isn't going to be able to launch big,

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<v Speaker 1>heavy emergency boats to skim away oil.

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<v Speaker 3>I drove out here last week to check it out,

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<v Speaker 3>and it was good. I'm about to all right, then,

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<v Speaker 3>little shit.

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<v Speaker 1>Doug's a big talker, and he's got his hands in

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of things. As the Standing Rock Tribe's water guy,

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<v Speaker 1>the Dakota Access Pipeline has been a big part of

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<v Speaker 1>his job. To the Standing Rock Nation, the pipeline is

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<v Speaker 1>among the biggest threats to its primary drinking water source,

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<v Speaker 1>the Missouri River, so Doug spent countless hours trying to

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<v Speaker 1>make sense of Energy Transfer's emergency plans what they intend

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<v Speaker 1>to do if the oil leaks out. He's also helped

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<v Speaker 1>with the tribe's ongoing legal fight against the pipeline. In

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<v Speaker 1>late twenty twenty four, Standing Rock is getting ready to

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<v Speaker 1>file a new lawsuit to stop the flow of oil,

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<v Speaker 1>and the water level measurements they take today are mental

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<v Speaker 1>help prove that the pipeline is unsafe. We get out

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<v Speaker 1>of the truck and inspect the water line.

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<v Speaker 3>Look look at how far it went down just for

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<v Speaker 3>this not even to be dried yet, how would that happen?

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<v Speaker 3>The Army Corps of Engineers, the mismanagement of the river.

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<v Speaker 1>The Standing Rock Sioux Tribe's legal fight against the pipeline

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<v Speaker 1>isn't against energy transfer, it's against the US Army Corps

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<v Speaker 1>of Engineers. That's the federal agency that in charge of

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<v Speaker 1>granting permission for the pipeline to pass through federal land,

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<v Speaker 1>including under the Missouri River. It was the Army Corps

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<v Speaker 1>that the tribe furssued back in July twenty sixteen, right

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<v Speaker 1>before the Standing Rock protests really kicked off. Back then,

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<v Speaker 1>they were trying to get the federal government to require

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<v Speaker 1>a deeper review of the pipeline route. Fast forward to today,

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<v Speaker 1>the tribe's legal fight to stop the pipeline still going on.

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<v Speaker 1>It wasn't until Trump came into office in twenty seventeen,

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<v Speaker 1>as the Standing Rock protests were already winding down, that

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<v Speaker 1>the Army Corps did grant permission to drill under the river.

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<v Speaker 1>But after the pipeline was already installed, a judge took

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<v Speaker 1>back that permission and said that the project does require

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<v Speaker 1>a deeper environmental review. Eight years after the oil started flowing,

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<v Speaker 1>that review and environmental impact statement still isn't finished. The

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<v Speaker 1>pipeline operates with no official permission from the Army Corps,

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<v Speaker 1>and the Standing Rock Sioux tribe is sick of it.

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<v Speaker 1>The Army Corps of Engineers also runs a series of

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<v Speaker 1>dams along the river. Dam's Standing Rock and other Indigenous

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<v Speaker 1>nations never wanted.

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<v Speaker 4>So this new.

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<v Speaker 1>Lawsuit DOUG is helping prepare. It's not just going to

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<v Speaker 1>focus on the pipeline, but rather on multiple environmental justice

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<v Speaker 1>issues that this nation has been putting up with for decades.

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<v Speaker 1>Pulling up behind us is a whole team of emergency

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<v Speaker 1>managers from the tribal government, as well as an elected

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<v Speaker 1>member of the tribal council and a reporter from a

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<v Speaker 1>local newspaper.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, yeah, We're bade everybody.

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<v Speaker 1>Doug briefs us on the plan. Since it's too shallow

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<v Speaker 1>for the pontoon here, we're going to head to the

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<v Speaker 1>next closest option for launching a boat, which is twenty

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<v Speaker 1>minutes away at Fort Rice.

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<v Speaker 3>Two things are going to happen there. One, it's gonna

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<v Speaker 3>be up, the water is going to be good. We're

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<v Speaker 3>going to get in the boat and we're going to

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<v Speaker 3>go to Dapple's site. Or we get down there and

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<v Speaker 3>it's just like this, it's unusable and we docu that

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<v Speaker 3>as well. All right, load up.

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<v Speaker 5>Then, you.

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<v Speaker 1>Know, in all these years covering the Standing Rock movement,

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<v Speaker 1>I've never actually gotten out on the water. But I

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<v Speaker 1>have no idea as we turn onto the highway that

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<v Speaker 1>I'm about to get even more intimate with the Big

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<v Speaker 1>Buddy than I'd bargained for.

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<v Speaker 4>This season of.

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<v Speaker 1>Drilled, we bring you Slapped the story of an indigenous

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<v Speaker 1>nation fighting for its water, an environmental nonprofit facing extinction,

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<v Speaker 1>and an energy giant using the courts to punish protesters.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm Alan Brown. The draft of Energy Transfers Environmental Impact

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<v Speaker 1>Statement for the Dakota Access Pipeline was released about a

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<v Speaker 1>year and a half ago. And it describes the company's

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<v Speaker 1>version of what would happen if the pipeline. It says

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<v Speaker 1>that within thirteen minutes of a leak, energy Transfer would

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<v Speaker 1>shut down the pipeline. They'd launch their boats into the

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<v Speaker 1>river from a dock like we just visited, and they'd

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<v Speaker 1>isolate the spill with containment booms, skimmers, absorbent material, and

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<v Speaker 1>vacuum suction would collect the oil. If the water was

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<v Speaker 1>too low to launch a boat, energy Transfer would use

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<v Speaker 1>cranes to lower watercraft into the Missouri. And they say

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<v Speaker 1>they have airboats on hand. But Doug and other Standing

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<v Speaker 1>Rock leaders.

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<v Speaker 4>Don't buy it.

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<v Speaker 1>For one, the report was written by a company with

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<v Speaker 1>ties to the oil and gas industry. He tells me

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<v Speaker 1>about it as we drive to the next closest boat dock.

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<v Speaker 3>We told him that's a conflict of.

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<v Speaker 1>Interest making matters worse. Large sections of the emergency plans

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<v Speaker 1>and the spill response report are blacked out, redacted. Standing

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<v Speaker 1>Rock leaders say they have no ability to check the

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<v Speaker 1>work of Energy Transfer in the Army Corps.

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<v Speaker 3>How can you really comment on something you can't see?

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<v Speaker 3>And this is what we always said, where's the transparency?

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<v Speaker 1>A final decision on the Eastman. The permission to drill

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<v Speaker 1>under the river is expected in the next year, but

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<v Speaker 1>the writing is on the wall. With Donald Trump about

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<v Speaker 1>to become president, the Army Corps will likely grant it.

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<v Speaker 1>The Standing Rock Sioux tribe decided they weren't going to

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<v Speaker 1>sit around and wait before filing a new lawsuit.

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<v Speaker 3>Anyway, ask me more questions.

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<v Speaker 1>As we drive, I'm noticing the way the sun is

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<v Speaker 1>struggling to pierce through a kind of fog.

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<v Speaker 6>Do you think this hayes is from the wildfires? Seriously,

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<v Speaker 6>that's a serious question.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh, oh, yeah it is.

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<v Speaker 1>North Dakota Governor Doug Bergham declared a state of emergency

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<v Speaker 1>a week ago. High temperatures, dry conditions, and wind are

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<v Speaker 1>creating the perfect conditions for wildfires. Earlier in the week,

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<v Speaker 1>when I was visiting here, I driven by fields scorched

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<v Speaker 1>by wildfire. The fire had meandered through agricultural land and

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<v Speaker 1>jumped the road. The blackened areas had the settling appearance

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<v Speaker 1>of an oil spill. The climate impacts of burning oil

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<v Speaker 1>were a key issue in the fight against the Dakota

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<v Speaker 1>Access Pipeline, and here in North Dakota it isn't hard

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<v Speaker 1>to see how the climate crisis is impacting everyday life.

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<v Speaker 1>Doug takes a turn on boat dock road. His team

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<v Speaker 1>didn't used to use this dock too often, but with

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<v Speaker 1>the water levels being so low, that's changed.

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<v Speaker 4>When did it start becoming an issue?

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<v Speaker 7>Oh, it's ten years, at least ten years every year

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<v Speaker 7>usually around this time, and then springtime it'll flood, and

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<v Speaker 7>in wintertime it'll go low.

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<v Speaker 3>And it just depends on the runoff a lot of

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<v Speaker 3>times too. Of Montana's headwaters if they had a good

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<v Speaker 3>winter and a nice runoff. Oh my god, Yes.

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<v Speaker 1>The headwaters of the Missouri River are in Montana. In

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<v Speaker 1>twenty seventeen, universities in the state did a study on

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<v Speaker 1>how climate change is impacting the river. The researchers found

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<v Speaker 1>that not only has Montana's snowpack in the mountains declined,

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<v Speaker 1>the snow that does accumulate is melting earlier in the year.

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<v Speaker 1>By late summer, there's less water than there used to be.

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<v Speaker 1>That means more drought. Over the next century, what we're

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<v Speaker 1>seeing today is expected to get worse. A deciding factor

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<v Speaker 1>for how bad the droughts and fires will get is

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<v Speaker 1>how many fossil fuels continue to be extracted, transported and

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<v Speaker 1>burned its products, like the oil carried by the Dakota

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<v Speaker 1>Access pipeline, that are making the climate crisis worse.

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<v Speaker 3>So check it out.

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<v Speaker 5>Kids.

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<v Speaker 3>If I'm going to go big one under day.

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<v Speaker 4>Now, if I need this jack attack.

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<v Speaker 1>Debate leaving my coat in the car. It's October in

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<v Speaker 1>North Dakota, but the temper sure is climbing above eighty degrees.

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<v Speaker 1>Don Holmstrom climbs out of the backseat and heads down

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<v Speaker 1>the ramp toward the dock. Don is the former director

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<v Speaker 1>of the US Chemical Safety and Hazard Board's Western Regional Office.

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<v Speaker 1>Now he works as a safety consultant for Standing Rock.

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<v Speaker 1>He pulls out a sonar depth finder device and it

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<v Speaker 1>says it's deep enough for us to launch will Some

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<v Speaker 1>of the crew sets up the pontoon. I chat with

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<v Speaker 1>Harold Tiger and Erica Porter, who are emergency managers.

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<v Speaker 8>I'm curious to.

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<v Speaker 1>Hear more about the wildfire.

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<v Speaker 5>From the reports I received, it was caused by a

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<v Speaker 5>combiner that was combining in the field a caught fire.

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<v Speaker 1>It turns out they responded to that fire I saw.

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<v Speaker 1>They tell me this is the time of the year

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<v Speaker 1>when farmers harvest. Hay All it took to spark. The

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<v Speaker 1>fire was a combiner hitting a rock.

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<v Speaker 9>And we closed down the road while that fire skipped

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<v Speaker 9>over Highway sixty three.

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<v Speaker 5>Was so bad that it's hard to see through the

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<v Speaker 5>smoke plne across that highway.

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<v Speaker 4>I guess how unusual is this?

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<v Speaker 6>How unusual is a wildfire like what we call it

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<v Speaker 6>curveball climate?

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<v Speaker 5>Well, and it has the drastic effect on our people.

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<v Speaker 5>I mean, things are not happening normally at certain times

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<v Speaker 5>of the year. So we need to start looking at

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<v Speaker 5>that and looking outside of the box to get better

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<v Speaker 5>prepared for those things.

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<v Speaker 1>The climate crisis is often called a threat multiplier. The

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<v Speaker 1>oil in the pipeline stands to make the climate crisis worse,

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<v Speaker 1>and also the climate crisis stands to make the impact

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<v Speaker 1>of any oil spill worse. And there's one more piece

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<v Speaker 1>to this puzzle that will get to in a second.

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<v Speaker 1>The Missouri River dams. We climb onto the pontoon. Ready,

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<v Speaker 1>we putter into the little bay that leads to the river.

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<v Speaker 1>For a second, it seems like our ning might end

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<v Speaker 1>before it's begun.

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<v Speaker 2>Are we getting stuck?

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<v Speaker 1>We aren't yet. Erica cranks up the pontoon.

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<v Speaker 4>Jams there that pontube fun.

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<v Speaker 1>Dawn drops the depth finder into the glassy water. As

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<v Speaker 1>we troll south through a basin that's wider than a

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<v Speaker 1>football field. Doug drives carefully navigating the braided channels that

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<v Speaker 1>cut pathways through muddy sandbars. The constant fluctuations of the

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<v Speaker 1>river mean the curves of the channels are unpredictable.

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<v Speaker 4>The stretch of the river that borders.

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<v Speaker 1>Standing Rock is called Lake Owahe. It's a reservoir that

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<v Speaker 1>was created in the early nineteen sixties. The Upper Missouri

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<v Speaker 1>River today is actually divided up by a series of dams.

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<v Speaker 1>That's because in the nineteen forties, the US created a

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<v Speaker 1>program called the pics Loane Plan. That plan is the

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<v Speaker 1>origin story of the Standing Rock nations poisoned relationship with

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<v Speaker 1>the Army Corps of Engineers. The Corps wanted to build

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<v Speaker 1>a series of dams to control the Missouri River. The

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<v Speaker 1>dams were meant to ease flooding, provide power and irrigation,

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<v Speaker 1>and also make it easier for boats to transport people

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<v Speaker 1>and products. The thing is, the indigenous nations along the

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<v Speaker 1>river didn't want the dams. The US government built them anyway.

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<v Speaker 1>They flooded and destroyed entire communities, drowning grave sites, as

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<v Speaker 1>well as sources of food and income. People from standing

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<v Speaker 1>rocks say they were never adequately compensated, though it's not

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<v Speaker 1>clear that any price could have made the dams worth.

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<v Speaker 4>What was lost wiped all that up and wiped out

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<v Speaker 4>our cherry trees or plum trees are you know?

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<v Speaker 3>It was hunting grounds. And so they this army corps

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<v Speaker 3>of engineers when they flooded our lands, they wiped out

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<v Speaker 3>a way of life.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, Davis Redbear was born just after the dam

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<v Speaker 1>flood at the land, but she grew up hearing about

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<v Speaker 1>what happened. And as far as Doug is concerned, the

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<v Speaker 1>injustice of the dams is ongoing. The climate crisis may

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<v Speaker 1>be helping create drought conditions, but it doesn't explain how

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<v Speaker 1>quickly the water level is going up and down.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, so what's the deal. So the obviously the dam

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<v Speaker 6>the water is low. Why would they why would it

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<v Speaker 6>be low right now?

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<v Speaker 4>Why is it low right now?

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<v Speaker 10>Because they're trying to keep the level of the of

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<v Speaker 10>the Brassouri River at average, at an average level down

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<v Speaker 10>in Kansas and Missouri for navigations for barges.

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<v Speaker 1>So Yeah, the Army Corps controls the release of water

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<v Speaker 1>from reservoir to reservoir. They're attempting to balance a tangle

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<v Speaker 1>of different needs as they do this, from preventing flooding

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<v Speaker 1>to protecting endangered species, to letting people fish to making

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<v Speaker 1>sure companies can transport products. In Doug's view, the Army

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<v Speaker 1>Corps prioritizes the commercial needs of people outside the bounds

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<v Speaker 1>of the reservation Lake owahe ends up stuck in a

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<v Speaker 1>constant state of flux.

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<v Speaker 3>So I call our Lake Hawaihi the bastard reservoir of

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<v Speaker 3>the Pixloan Act. And it is, and you've seen it

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<v Speaker 3>today today is you know what you guys. I am

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<v Speaker 3>so glad you guys came to Davis Don because you

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<v Speaker 3>guys are seeing firsthand what I have to go through

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<v Speaker 3>almost on a weekly basis. When we go out to

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<v Speaker 3>do sampling on the river, you can't get out there.

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<v Speaker 1>When Doug and the other Standing Rock members on the

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<v Speaker 1>boat today think about the threats to the water, it's

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<v Speaker 1>about not just the pipeline but also the dam.

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<v Speaker 11>I mean, it's just it's so unjuff.

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<v Speaker 3>But I just love this. It's so beautiful.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm so glad we came on. I know me too,

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<v Speaker 4>It's so beautiful.

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<v Speaker 1>The Army Corps denied my request for an interview. A

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<v Speaker 1>spokesperson told me that the Army Corps operates the reservoirs

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<v Speaker 1>according to the law, with guidance from a master water

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<v Speaker 1>control manual. The spokesperson said water levels fluctuate seasonally based

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<v Speaker 1>on precipitation, runoff, and multiple congressionally authorized purposes, including flood control, navigation,

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<v Speaker 1>water supply, recreation, and fish and wildlife. These operations are

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<v Speaker 1>system wide and are not managed for any single user

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<v Speaker 1>or economic interest. There's another thing influencing Standing Rocks lawsuit strategy,

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<v Speaker 1>the Green Peace case. In its original conspiracy lawsuit, Energy

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<v Speaker 1>Transfer claimed that green Peace committed defamation by saying that

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<v Speaker 1>the pipeline would poison the Standing Rocks Shoo Tribe's water.

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<v Speaker 1>They also said it's defamation to say the pipeline would

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<v Speaker 1>catastrophically alter the climate. The threats to their water and

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<v Speaker 1>to the climate are two of the Standing Rocks Szo

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<v Speaker 1>tribe's key arguments against the pipeline. Energy Transfer suit was

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<v Speaker 1>suggesting these threats don't exist, and if you're going to

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<v Speaker 1>make claims like that in a lawsuit, then you have

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<v Speaker 1>to prove it. Energy Transfer would have to hand over

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<v Speaker 1>internal documents proving how safe the pipeline really was, but

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<v Speaker 1>they argued that sharing so many documents was too much

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<v Speaker 1>of a hassle. To avoid having to turn them over,

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<v Speaker 1>they dropped the claims about water and climate safety, but

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<v Speaker 1>Greenpeace did not drop their request for documents, and as

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<v Speaker 1>they continued to fight about it, some documents ended up

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<v Speaker 1>bubbling to the surface that weren't supposed to. A report

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<v Speaker 1>that was supposed to remain confidential appeared on a court

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<v Speaker 1>website for anyone to download. An engineering firm called Exponent

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<v Speaker 1>had prepared this report. It was co written by a

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<v Speaker 1>former Exxon engineer. Greenpeace had commissioned it as part of

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<v Speaker 1>its legal defense, and it described something the Standing Rocks

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<v Speaker 1>Too tribe had never heard about before. It said that

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<v Speaker 1>there had been problems when Energy Transfer's drilling contractor, Michaels,

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<v Speaker 1>was drilling under Lake Owahe Doug brings the pontoon to a.

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<v Speaker 3>Stop, so basically we're at ground zero and where there

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<v Speaker 3>would be a pipeline break.

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<v Speaker 1>That means we're floating above the Dakota Access pipeline. It's

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<v Speaker 1>buried ninety five feet below the lake bed. Doug explains

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<v Speaker 1>what the exponent report revealed. He takes us back to

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<v Speaker 1>January twenty seventeen, when energy transfers set up two huge

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<v Speaker 1>drills on either side of the river.

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<v Speaker 3>At the same time, we had a camp on the

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<v Speaker 3>other side of that cliff over there where people from

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<v Speaker 3>around the world were protesting to stop it, and these

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<v Speaker 3>guys over here were saying, gear it up, let's get

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<v Speaker 3>it done.

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<v Speaker 1>The two drills, tungsten carbi teeth, cut and ground the

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<v Speaker 1>rock and soil under the river into fragments, each guiding

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<v Speaker 1>a drill pipe behind it. The drill pad had been

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<v Speaker 1>transformed to resemble a military base.

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<v Speaker 3>If you guys remember seeing pictures, they had a berm

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<v Speaker 3>around the drill pad. They had these huge it looked

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<v Speaker 3>like Kuwait. They had armed twenty four to seven guards.

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<v Speaker 3>They had these big flood lights.

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<v Speaker 1>Over the course of a week, the two drills chewed

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<v Speaker 1>away pilot holes underneath either side of the river until

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<v Speaker 1>they met in the middle the day after Valentine's Day.

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<v Speaker 1>As they traveled, thick mud was pumped at high pressure

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<v Speaker 1>from the shore through the drill pipes and out the nozzles.

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<v Speaker 1>At the drill bits at the end.

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<v Speaker 3>And they use fluid the loop up the sediment and

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<v Speaker 3>the rock and it's just going and going.

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<v Speaker 1>The drilling mud was made of betonit, clay, and water,

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<v Speaker 1>along with some unknown chemical additives. Oil companies usually describe

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<v Speaker 1>drilling mud as being non toxic, but at times it

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<v Speaker 1>has been found to include harmful pollutants and it can

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<v Speaker 1>hurt delicate ecosystems. Drilling mud carried away the fragmented earth.

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<v Speaker 1>That mud and earth was supposed to flow back to

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<v Speaker 1>the shore into an excavated pit, but some of it

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<v Speaker 1>never did. The amount of drilling mud that disappeared was

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<v Speaker 1>enough to fill two Olympic sized swimming pools one point

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<v Speaker 1>four million gallons. All that drilling mud had apparently oozed

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<v Speaker 1>into the surrounding environment.

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<v Speaker 4>What does it contaminate? What does that mean to our

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<v Speaker 4>water intake? I mean, I got those kind of questions.

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<v Speaker 3>And so they don't know if it's still in or

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<v Speaker 3>if it's underneath the water, or if it's or went

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<v Speaker 3>down river. They don't know nothing. That word didn't say,

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<v Speaker 3>the board didn't say, so it's.

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<v Speaker 1>Unclear what happened to all that mud. Exponent wrote that

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<v Speaker 1>there's no indication Energy Transfers contractors did any water testing

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<v Speaker 1>dug in the Tribeer concerned that there could have been

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<v Speaker 1>something poisonous mixed into the mud that disappeared under the river,

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<v Speaker 1>which is a big problem because again, this is the

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<v Speaker 1>standing Rock Zioo Tribe's drinking water source. An Energy Transfer

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<v Speaker 1>has had issues with drilling mud before. The company was

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<v Speaker 1>building pipelines in Pennsylvania and Ohio. Around the same time

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<v Speaker 1>it was building Dapple in North Dakota. In Pennsylvania, thousands

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<v Speaker 1>of gallons of drilling mud leaked into wetlands. The company

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<v Speaker 1>didn't report it to state regulators, who found out that

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<v Speaker 1>some of the mud contained unapproved additives. It even polluted

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<v Speaker 1>tap water and caused sinkholes. The company's subsidiary, Sunoco, pleaded

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<v Speaker 1>no contest to fourteen criminal counts related to those drilling

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<v Speaker 1>mud spills. In Ohio, two million gallons of drilling mud

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<v Speaker 1>leaked into a wetland, and state regulators discovered that some

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<v Speaker 1>of it was laced with diesel, and they weren't told

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<v Speaker 1>about that by Energy Transfer and their contractors, and so

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<v Speaker 1>obviously they were pretty mad about it. This is Don Holmstrom,

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<v Speaker 1>the consultant who used to work at the Chemical Safety Poort.

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<v Speaker 1>Energy Transfer got in pretty big trouble for its drilling

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<v Speaker 1>mud spills. The US Environmental Protection Agency proposed in twenty

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<v Speaker 1>twenty two that the company be banned from any contracts

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<v Speaker 1>with the federal government. The decision was never finalized, but

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<v Speaker 1>it meant that Energy Transfer was kept out of federal

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<v Speaker 1>contracts until earlier this year. Don has a plane to

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<v Speaker 1>catch and it's time to head back.

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<v Speaker 3>You guys got any other questions as we go? Just

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<v Speaker 3>asked Don. Let's let's maneuver back to the port. See

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<v Speaker 3>if we CANDOCT Titanic.

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<v Speaker 4>All right, let's go.

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<v Speaker 3>I need somebody to look out in the front for icebergs.

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<v Speaker 3>No kidding, right, pull it.

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<v Speaker 1>As we motor back the way we came, I think

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<v Speaker 1>about what I'd researched before this trip. The draft andvironmental

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<v Speaker 1>impact statement from the Army Corps says there's only about

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<v Speaker 1>a one in one thousand chance that the Dakota Access

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<v Speaker 1>Pipeline will spill under the Missouri River in a given year,

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<v Speaker 1>But as for the entire length of the pipeline, the

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<v Speaker 1>Dakota Access Pipeline has already leaked thirteen times since an

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<v Speaker 1>entered operation in twenty seventeen. The largest leak was nearly

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<v Speaker 1>two hundred gallons. The draft Environmental Impact Statement says that

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<v Speaker 1>spill risk is inherent to pipelines. You can mitigate it,

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<v Speaker 1>but you can't eliminate it. Then there's the climate crisis.

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<v Speaker 1>Scientists say that if we have any hope of avoiding

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<v Speaker 1>catastrophic climate impacts, we cannot build new fossil fuel infrastructure.

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<v Speaker 1>According to climate scientists, math as long as the oil flows,

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<v Speaker 1>the water is not protected.

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<v Speaker 4>In the pontoon.

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<v Speaker 1>We're chatting idly about the upcoming election as we motor back.

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<v Speaker 11>I've developed a healthy skepticism about well, even people that

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<v Speaker 11>you had up voting for, because maybe they're the lesser

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<v Speaker 11>of the.

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<v Speaker 4>Of the problem.

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<v Speaker 1>The pontoon stalls were stuck.

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<v Speaker 3>I thought we were going to be able to right there.

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<v Speaker 4>It's the same on this side. Yeah up.

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<v Speaker 1>The deep channel has turned unexpectedly into a sandbar on

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<v Speaker 1>either side of us.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't think we can go forward.

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<v Speaker 1>The boat is lodged in the muck of the river.

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<v Speaker 1>Four of our crew jump into push.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, Okate, let me know when you got ready.

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<v Speaker 1>Doug gets ready to rev the motor.

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<v Speaker 6>Ye let me know when you.

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<v Speaker 4>Read they're pushing, But this.

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<v Speaker 1>Thing is not moving.

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<v Speaker 3>Is it even budget?

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<v Speaker 1>It's not looking good. And here, dear listener, the audio

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<v Speaker 1>cuts out because the time had come for your host

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<v Speaker 1>to get intimate with the Missouri River. I roll up

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<v Speaker 1>my pants to my knees and jump in. Now there

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<v Speaker 1>are six of us pushing, and with the mud of

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<v Speaker 1>the Missouri River oozing between my toes, I begin to

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<v Speaker 1>see the standing rock. Sioux Tribe's point. How quickly could

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<v Speaker 1>a crew really navigate these channels in an oil spill emergency?

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<v Speaker 1>And how much lower will this river drop as the

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<v Speaker 1>climate crisis deepens? We push again. The pontoon inches a

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<v Speaker 1>few feet forward, but it's still stuck. We keep pushing.

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<v Speaker 1>It springs forward.

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<v Speaker 3>Nothing happened. We're good to meet you. Yeah, great to

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<v Speaker 3>meet you. Travel.

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<v Speaker 1>Doug and Dawn consider the trip of success we'd unintentionally

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<v Speaker 1>illustrate at their point. Three days later, the tribe files

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<v Speaker 1>its lawsuit on Indigenous People's Day. Months later, in the

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<v Speaker 1>courtroom in the winter of twenty twenty five, the things

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<v Speaker 1>we grappled with on the water come up in court.

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<v Speaker 1>Energy Transfer wants Greenpeace to pay them back for delaying

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<v Speaker 1>the start of the pipeline's commercial operations. They say that

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<v Speaker 1>the pipeline was supposed to be pumping oil by January

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<v Speaker 1>twenty seventeen, but didn't start operating until June, and that

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<v Speaker 1>cost them eighty million dollars. But Greenpeace is arguing that

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<v Speaker 1>what actually prevented Energy Transfer from finishing the project is

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<v Speaker 1>that they didn't have the Army Corps permission to drill

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<v Speaker 1>under the Missouri River. They didn't have the easement. Green

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<v Speaker 1>Peace wasn't stopping the oil from pumping. A federal agency

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<v Speaker 1>was standing in the way. If green Peace was solely

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<v Speaker 1>responsible for the easement delay, then that means that the

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<v Speaker 1>Standing Rock Sioux Tribe and its lawsuit and its calls

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<v Speaker 1>to action the money it poured into the pipeline fight,

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<v Speaker 1>had no hand in the Army Corps decision. The theory

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<v Speaker 1>of the lawsuit doesn't match with what happened and removes

0:27:55.880 --> 0:28:01.600
<v Speaker 1>the indigenous nation from the story entirely. Energy Transfer is

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<v Speaker 1>also saying that it was Greenpeace's divestment campaign that forced

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<v Speaker 1>Energy Transfer to delay its loan refinancing by about two years.

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<v Speaker 1>They say that the delay was because Greenpeace spread lies

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<v Speaker 1>about Energy Transfer. The alleged lies were meant to convince

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<v Speaker 1>Banks to divest from the pipeline. An Energy Transfer wants

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<v Speaker 1>the environmental nonprofit to pay them nearly one hundred million

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<v Speaker 1>dollars for this, except that Energy Transfer's own records conflict

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<v Speaker 1>with this story. The pipeline company took careful notes when

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<v Speaker 1>they're board met and several sets of board meeting minutes

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<v Speaker 1>say that Energy Transfer decided to hold off on refinancing

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<v Speaker 1>not because of anything about Greenpeace, but because the Standing

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<v Speaker 1>Rock Sioux Tribe was in the middle of their legal

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<v Speaker 1>battle with the Army Corps, and the banks wanted to

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<v Speaker 1>wait and see what would happen. Once again, Energy Transfer's

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<v Speaker 1>story of Standing Rock erases the role of the Standing

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<v Speaker 1>Rock Sioux tribe. I call up Doug, the tribe's water guy,

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<v Speaker 1>about what's happening with the lawsuit. He wasn't too impressed

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<v Speaker 1>with the fifty five thousand dollars that Energy Transferred as

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<v Speaker 1>Greenpeace put into the movement, or the ninety thousand dollars

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<v Speaker 1>that they say Greenpeace's former executive director fundraised.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm like, what are they suiting up for day to

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<v Speaker 3>do any What did they do?

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<v Speaker 1>He tells me the tribe took in eleven point seven

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<v Speaker 1>million dollars in donations from people who wanted to support

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<v Speaker 1>the pipeline resistance camps and the legal fight. He knows

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<v Speaker 1>the number because he managed the budget.

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<v Speaker 12>We paid over sixty thousand dollars just for porta potties.

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<v Speaker 4>That's right.

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<v Speaker 1>The Standing Rock Sioux Tribe spent more on toilets for

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<v Speaker 1>a couple months than green Peace allegedly donated throughout the

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<v Speaker 1>entire movement. The money came via the Standing Rock Sioux

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<v Speaker 1>Tribe's crowdfunding pages, but also an envelope sent directly to

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<v Speaker 1>the tribal office.

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<v Speaker 12>Envelopes of you know, fifty dollars envelopes with cash or

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<v Speaker 12>checks in them for twenty five dollars. Whether they donated

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<v Speaker 12>five dollars or five hundred thousand dollars, they all got

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<v Speaker 12>a thank you letter from the chairman with our ie

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<v Speaker 12>number and their tax break number. So we did that.

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<v Speaker 12>I want to say twenty thousand people.

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<v Speaker 1>To Doug, the arguments in this lawsuit just don't make sense.

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<v Speaker 12>Well, I'd say this is all a bunch of bullshit,

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<v Speaker 12>and I could tell you that nothing ever happened with

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<v Speaker 12>Greenpeace they didn't do shit. They don't have the right

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<v Speaker 12>to sit here and even talk about Dapple and definitely

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<v Speaker 12>Energy Transfer, doesn't you guy? You know, and I would

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<v Speaker 12>say this is all just a ploy to try to

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<v Speaker 12>find a scapegoat.

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<v Speaker 1>Greenpeace wants to talk about that leak drilling mud in court,

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<v Speaker 1>but Judge Gehen says they're not allowed to. Energy Transfer

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<v Speaker 1>didn't answer my questions about the report. During his testimony,

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<v Speaker 1>the project manager, Mike Futch, said there were no problems

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<v Speaker 1>with the drilling, but a regulator at the North Dakota

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<v Speaker 1>Department of Environmental Quality told the North Dakota Monitor that

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<v Speaker 1>he was aware of some issues with drilling mud. The

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<v Speaker 1>regulator just didn't think it was a big deal. This

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<v Speaker 1>is something we see happening virtually on every horizontal boring

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<v Speaker 1>we see.

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<v Speaker 4>He said, there's.

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<v Speaker 1>A world where the Dakota Access pipelines, oil and drilling

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<v Speaker 1>mud spills are considered normal and acceptable. But decades of

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<v Speaker 1>experience have shown the Standing Rock Sioux Tribe that neither

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<v Speaker 1>the State of North Dakota, nor the US Army Corps

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<v Speaker 1>of Engineers, nor Energy Transfer are authorities they can trust.

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<v Speaker 1>And honestly, the tribe was not so sure they could

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<v Speaker 1>trust Greenpeace either, because there was a moment last year

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<v Speaker 1>when Greenpeace was offered an opportunity to avoid all of

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<v Speaker 1>this one that meant throwing the standing tribe under the bus.

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