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Speaker 1: My father's lay wife left me an inheritance for me

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Speaker 1: in her will. I don't see the issue here. I

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Speaker 1: won't mince words. I'm twenty two female, the product of

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Speaker 1: an affair. Ah, I see the issue. Ye, there it is.

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Speaker 1: My father comes from a wealthy family and is a

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Speaker 1: businessman in Asia, and my mother used to be a

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Speaker 1: flight attendant in the nineties. My dad has always been

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Speaker 1: there when I was growing up, even if my mom

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Speaker 1: and I live in the US, and has provided for

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Speaker 1: us financially. All Right, his real family knows about me.

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Speaker 1: He and his wife, Sarah got married out of a

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Speaker 1: business convenience, and she's never resented me or made me

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Speaker 1: feel bad in any way.

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Speaker 2: Okay, cool, great, stepmom, love, that's great.

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Speaker 1: I've always respected her for letting me have a relationship

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Speaker 1: with my older brothers and letting me come with their

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Speaker 1: family on summer vacations.

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Speaker 2: Wow, even though you're the fair baby.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, but I guess a fair baby unquotes because it

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Speaker 1: seems like their relationship was purely you know, business business,

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Speaker 1: it all taxes. Yeah, she's a business baby. She's a

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Speaker 1: boss baby.

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Speaker 2: No, the older brother's a business babies. This is a

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Speaker 2: love baby, love baby.

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Speaker 1: Sadly, Sarah passed away a few months ago. It's been

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Speaker 1: rough on my dad and brothers. She was a wonderful

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Speaker 1: woman and I miss her a lot.

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Speaker 3: Ah.

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Speaker 1: By the way, this comes from sg throw And if

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Speaker 1: you want to smit your own stories, go to the

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Speaker 1: r slash Okay storytime severed it. I'm Sophia, I'm Savannah,

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Speaker 1: I'm Riley, and we're here to give good of ice Schoofley.

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Speaker 1: But we don't have all the answers. We only know

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Speaker 1: what we'd do, So let us know what you would

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Speaker 1: do in the comments and OOPI se Sarah was very,

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Speaker 1: very wealthy and left my brother's a significant inheritance. Apparently

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Speaker 1: she also left me something in her will a few

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Speaker 1: thousand dollars. Wow. I burst into tears when my brothers

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Speaker 1: called me with the news. I didn't expect her to

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Speaker 1: even acknowledge me in any way, as her husband's a

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Speaker 1: fair child. Even if we had a good relationship.

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Speaker 2: This is so unique. Yeah, this has never ever happened before.

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Speaker 1: Like stepmom, Well, I guess you know. Og wife is

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Speaker 1: okay with a fair child to the point where she

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Speaker 1: gives her inherentance money.

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Speaker 2: I call this a mom through marriage, mom through marriage.

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Speaker 1: I like that, and the brother's okay with it. They're like, hey,

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Speaker 1: good news.

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Speaker 3: I thought they would be like, I can't believe she.

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Speaker 2: Got money somebody she didn't mean to.

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Speaker 1: That's actually ours twice to ours.

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Speaker 2: One fact, if you have a will and you want

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Speaker 2: to spite someone, put down their name and give them

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Speaker 2: a dollar so they can't go to court and say, oh,

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Speaker 2: they forgot about me.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, there's like a certain limit. It depends on how

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Speaker 1: much money you have, but there's a certain limit that

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Speaker 1: you can give people so that they can't complain. I

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Speaker 1: didn't know that. The problem is my family, my uncles

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Speaker 1: and grandma think that I shouldn't accept the money because

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Speaker 1: I'm not family. I don't care what they say.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, if it's written in someone's will, yeah, no matter

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Speaker 2: if their family or not, that's in their will. For you.

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Speaker 1: You don't have to give your money to just people

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Speaker 1: who are related to you. You can give your money

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Speaker 1: to whoever you want. Some people give it to their dog.

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Speaker 1: It's true. We are just like in aristocats. That's the

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Speaker 1: whole plot of them.

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Speaker 2: In no freaking way.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, she gives all of her inheritance to her cats,

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Speaker 1: and that's why is it Edgar?

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Speaker 3: Everyone comes after Edgar's like, I'm gonna steal those cats,

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Speaker 3: wain and steal the money.

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Speaker 2: That makes sense, Holy count.

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Speaker 1: Even though he was also in the will, My brothers

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Speaker 1: have been saying that over in their country, Sarah's family

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Speaker 1: is also contesting the will to remove me because I'm

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Speaker 1: not her daughter or related to her in any way.

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Speaker 1: I've been feeling pressured to not accept the money, even

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Speaker 1: if my dad and brothers say I have every right

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Speaker 1: to accept it. Am I the ale for thinking about

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Speaker 2: Na?

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Speaker 1: Yeah?

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Speaker 3: What she literally specifically wrote you down. Yeah, I would

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Speaker 3: get this money.

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Speaker 2: So no, absolutely, type one. If she should take it,

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Speaker 2: and let me know what you would do.

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Speaker 1: I'm taking any money that anyone gives me. Yeah, Riley

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Speaker 1: gives me five dollars, and I'm saying, well, I'm not

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Speaker 1: related to Riley and can't take that my five dollars,

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Speaker 1: now give it me.

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Speaker 3: I might also take five dollars from Ridley.

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna take it right now. You know what, give

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Speaker 1: me five dollars.

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Speaker 2: I have given you guys five dollars through coffee.

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Speaker 1: That's true, and I like it every time. Common one

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Speaker 1: info you say she was very wealthy, and also that

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Speaker 1: you only received a few thousand dollars. If that's true,

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Speaker 1: why do her apparently wealthy family members even care about

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Speaker 1: this pittance? Pittance? Does that mean like just like a

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Speaker 1: little bit of money? Ohp says they live in a

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Speaker 1: pretty conservative Asian country and her family was never really

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Speaker 1: okay with them being accepting of me. They're like, you

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Speaker 1: shouldn't accept it. She's like, why you're not supposed to

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Speaker 1: do It's just not the thing we do.

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Speaker 2: That's not how things go around here.

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Speaker 1: I think they just don't want any part of her

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Speaker 1: associated with me. Comma two says, not the a hole.

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Speaker 1: But I also wanted to add if it all goes

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Speaker 1: bottoms up and they somehow don't let you have the money,

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Speaker 1: you can still hold on to the memory that Sarah

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Speaker 1: clearly cared for you and plan for your future after

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Speaker 1: her life was over. They can never take that from you.

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Speaker 1: I mean, they also can't take the money from you.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: They also are not legally allowed to just take that money.

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Speaker 2: True, true, Oh.

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Speaker 1: P he says, thank you so much for this comment.

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Speaker 1: My brother found this post, and after confirming that I

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Speaker 1: was the one who posted, wants to thank everyone for

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Speaker 1: the nice comments about his mother. She is as kind

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Speaker 1: as you all think she is.

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Speaker 2: Wow, And everyone in the comments right now was saying

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Speaker 2: one take the money.

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Speaker 1: Take the money. Common three says, guessing Singapore from the name.

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Speaker 1: Are you trying to maintain a relationship with that part

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Speaker 1: of the family after this? Have you considered cutting a

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Speaker 1: deal with your half siblings publicly give the money back,

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Speaker 1: have them pay you back in private, basically lie to

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Speaker 1: keep the peace. Oh p he says. Helloo, not from Singapore,

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Speaker 1: but Southeast Asia, so close enough. I don't know that

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Speaker 1: much about the laws of our home country, but my

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Speaker 1: brothers say legally it's binding, she has to take the money.

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Speaker 1: Dang it, you don't know. I'll take the few thousand.

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Speaker 3: Thanks.

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Speaker 1: I'm just waiting for the mods to approve an update post,

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Speaker 1: and we do have an update. I have no further thoughts.

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Speaker 1: Just take that money and who cares what anyone else thinks?

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Speaker 2: Yeah? You went it through an inheritance or a game show. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: it's harder to get on a game show.

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Speaker 1: Also, these people clearly don't like you and don't want

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Speaker 1: to have a relationship with you, so it's not like

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Speaker 1: you're trying to have maintain something with them anyway.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. I also don't think you live near them.

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Speaker 1: No, doesn't seem like it. So what do they get to?

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Speaker 3: It seems like they're like across the whole ocean or something.

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Speaker 1: Also, like a few thousand dollars, We're really gonna get

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Speaker 1: upset about a few thousand dollars when they probably got

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Speaker 1: like so much more.

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Speaker 3: They're probably just jealous that they didn't get written into it. Also,

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Speaker 3: arm pittance, arm pittance.

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Speaker 2: Wow, she really did that.

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Speaker 1: Guys, you should have put money in like of the

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Speaker 1: money symbol. Mm update, I'm honestly floored with this response.

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Speaker 1: I just posted on here to kind of vent about

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Speaker 1: my situation since a friend brought it up yesterday and

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Speaker 1: asked how I was doing. Thought I would post an

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Speaker 1: update to share context and say how things are going.

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Speaker 1: My mom, dad, and Sarah are all from the same

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Speaker 1: home country. When she got pregnant, my mom was already

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Speaker 1: in the process of moving to the US. That's the

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Speaker 1: only reason I grew up away from my dad. They're

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Speaker 1: from a country we're having a second family is pretty

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Speaker 1: common for men of a certain social class. What even

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Speaker 1: prominent politicians of several families on the side.

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Speaker 2: Oh, okay, I know exactly where this is where Japan. Okay,

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Speaker 2: why I was watching a video essay, so I'm an expert,

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Speaker 2: but it is there is like a common practice, not

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Speaker 2: a common practice, but it is a thing in certain

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Speaker 2: areas of Japan, certain circumstances where monogamy wasn't really practiced

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Speaker 2: there's older traditions where it's like, oh, you can have

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Speaker 1: Just throw a couple families in the mix. But our

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Speaker 1: situation was frowned upon because it's expected that you treat

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Speaker 1: open about it, which is practically unheard of and apparently

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Speaker 2: This has to be Japan. Again, this is a white

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Speaker 2: man who watched one at video essay, So please, you.

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Speaker 1: Only watched a YouTube video. He's not sure.

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Speaker 2: Let me know, I can link it. I can link

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Speaker 2: it if you want.

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Speaker 1: With regards to how things are going now, my oldest

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Speaker 1: brother is a lawyer and has assured me several times

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Speaker 1: over the past few months that the family doesn't really

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Speaker 1: have a legal claim with contesting the will and with

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Speaker 1: the courts closed because of redacted? Who's the vid? Who's redacted?

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Speaker 1: I'm assuming it's the vid.

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Speaker 3: Also, I made it into a dollar sign now.

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Speaker 1: Yes, he's confident that this will all blow over soon.

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Speaker 1: The entire situation really isn't about the money. A lot

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Speaker 1: of the comments were right in saying that it's mostly

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Speaker 1: about appearances and keeping money within the family. We've got

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Speaker 1: a little bit left to this story.

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Speaker 3: Any federal thoughts your money, your rules, Yeah, true, legally binding.

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Speaker 1: Also her money, her rules, and she wanted the money

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Speaker 1: to go to you.

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Speaker 2: I think the most shocking thing about this whole story

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Speaker 2: is how chill your mother through marriage is about this.

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Speaker 3: She's so chill, true, she's so chill, so chill that

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Speaker 3: she put you right in that will and said, you

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Speaker 3: know what, here's something to do.

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Speaker 2: You deserve it.

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Speaker 1: That cut of your jib take a couple of thousand.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, And that she let you into the family vacations.

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Speaker 2: That's super sweet of her. Oh my gosh, that happens

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Speaker 2: nowhere else.

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Speaker 1: I've never heard of this ever, No, I have not,

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Speaker 1: but we got a little bit left. He actually saw

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Speaker 1: this post and called me, and he agrees that I

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Speaker 1: should honor his mom's wishes in keeping the money, and

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Speaker 1: that if I feel a bit uncomfortable taking it, to

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Speaker 1: think about it as a last gift from his mom

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Speaker 1: to show that she thinks of me as family too.

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Speaker 2: You have an aunt name Tammy. You talked, I have.

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Speaker 1: And then you call her a Karen. Oh, so you're

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Speaker 3: Thanks everyone, I've been properly schooled and accept my judgment

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Speaker 1: It feels like she said, Hey, you know, I just

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Speaker 2: All right, all right, those are good, those are good.

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Speaker 2: I'm against I like Diddy or the middle name.

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Speaker 1: All of a sudden, who would name there? But the

443
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Speaker 1: middle name, it's a common Epstein is a common last name.

444
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Speaker 1: I mean, that's a super common last name, which is

445
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Speaker 1: unfortunate for those people those It's just a meme.

446
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Speaker 3: Comments from seven years ago did not age well.

447
00:20:29,040 --> 00:20:30,200
Speaker 1: Update one year later.

448
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Speaker 3: Baby Karen was born, healthy and happy, back in October.

449
00:20:34,760 --> 00:20:38,240
Speaker 3: She's an absolute sweetheart and I'm totally in love with her.

450
00:20:38,720 --> 00:20:40,760
Speaker 3: Between March and May, I didn't get to see her

451
00:20:40,800 --> 00:20:43,639
Speaker 3: in person, but I did regular FaceTime and house party

452
00:20:43,680 --> 00:20:47,520
Speaker 3: calls with Stephanie and Karen, And over the last few weeks,

453
00:20:47,560 --> 00:20:50,520
Speaker 3: I've been going over to sit in Stephanie's backyard and

454
00:20:50,600 --> 00:20:52,680
Speaker 3: who at Karen from a lengthy distance.

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Speaker 1: This must be during the VID. Yeah, that's yeah.

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Speaker 3: I have two reasons for Updane. First, since Karen's birth,

457
00:20:58,600 --> 00:21:01,680
Speaker 3: her name has taken on new meeting. To me, when

458
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Speaker 3: I'm with her, Karen just means her and I don't

459
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Speaker 3: think about the other connotations.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, you really don't. When you're with the person,

461
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Speaker 1: or like when you're with that child, you don't really

462
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Speaker 1: think about You only think about it in preparation. I feel, yeah,

463
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Speaker 1: because I don't associate like, you know, yeah, I don't

464
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Speaker 1: associate the people like I said Alexa. I don't associate

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Speaker 1: the Alexas that I know with I know other Alexas.

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Speaker 1: But I also associate that name with, you know, the

467
00:21:29,520 --> 00:21:32,359
Speaker 1: actual like technology. There's a lot of different stuff like

468
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Speaker 1: that where you you don't really think about it, but

469
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Speaker 1: you think about it when people are naming their kids.

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Speaker 3: I really really liked the name Carmen for like so long, Carmen.

471
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Speaker 3: I knew my friend's aunt. She has two boys and

472
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Speaker 3: it's Carmen and Roman, and I'm obsessed. And they're also

473
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Speaker 3: the cutest things in the world. The reason I'm saying

474
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Speaker 3: this is because I loved the name Carmen, and then

475
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Speaker 3: I met at Carmen and I was like, you know,

476
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Speaker 3: he's gross, and I was.

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Speaker 1: Like, no, ruined it. And now I can't name mysel

478
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Speaker 1: on that. Yeah that's oh a male Carmen. Yeah a

479
00:22:04,160 --> 00:22:06,199
Speaker 1: male yeah, Oh, male Carmen.

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Speaker 3: A male Carmen, male Carmen mail room like in the

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Speaker 3: bear Sure, I've never seen it, Okay, I don't think

482
00:22:13,960 --> 00:22:17,679
Speaker 3: about the other connotations. In other words, you guys are right. Second,

483
00:22:18,000 --> 00:22:22,080
Speaker 3: Stephanie got back into her year's unused Facebook at the

484
00:22:22,119 --> 00:22:24,959
Speaker 3: beginning of the pandemic to keep in touch with people.

485
00:22:25,320 --> 00:22:28,200
Speaker 3: Most people in our social circle have been posting heavily

486
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Speaker 3: about Black Lives Matter and the protests happening right now.

487
00:22:32,520 --> 00:22:35,440
Speaker 3: So Stephanie has come into contact with a huge wave

488
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Speaker 3: of Karen memes for the first time. She's like, oh no,

489
00:22:38,520 --> 00:22:41,719
Speaker 3: and found them confusing and horrifying, especially the use of

490
00:22:41,840 --> 00:22:45,920
Speaker 3: Karen as shorthand for a discriminator room. I've basically declined

491
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Speaker 3: to talk about it with her because it went so

492
00:22:47,960 --> 00:22:50,760
Speaker 3: poorly last time, But both my mother and her mother

493
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Speaker 3: have been on my case because it's upsetting to Stephanie.

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Speaker 1: Why are they new? Yeah, like, I just wonder about it.

495
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Speaker 1: I didn't come up with it. Yeah, I didn't post

496
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Speaker 1: them on. I'm not the Karen who would do that. Yeah,

497
00:23:02,720 --> 00:23:04,960
Speaker 1: come on, she would have found it out.

498
00:23:05,200 --> 00:23:08,080
Speaker 3: They keep saying things like, is this what you were

499
00:23:08,119 --> 00:23:09,080
Speaker 3: talking about before?

500
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Speaker 2: Why didn't you say so?

501
00:23:10,640 --> 00:23:13,560
Speaker 1: I would be so pissed. I would be so pissed

502
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Speaker 1: if they said.

503
00:23:14,000 --> 00:23:16,800
Speaker 3: Why didn't exercise I'd be like, excuse me, why didn't

504
00:23:16,840 --> 00:23:19,960
Speaker 3: you explain it better? You should have told Stephanie and

505
00:23:20,160 --> 00:23:23,119
Speaker 3: Jesus swept you really can't win comments.

506
00:23:23,359 --> 00:23:26,080
Speaker 1: I would be so pissed. I'd be so I would

507
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Speaker 1: be I'd be like, don't ever talk to me again. No,

508
00:23:28,600 --> 00:23:29,240
Speaker 1: I wouldn't do that.

509
00:23:29,320 --> 00:23:34,600
Speaker 3: But better Hooks says, Oh my gosh, are they serious.

510
00:23:34,800 --> 00:23:37,119
Speaker 3: It's not my fault. You guys didn't believe me, and

511
00:23:37,160 --> 00:23:40,040
Speaker 3: you are a saint for not saying I told you so,

512
00:23:40,560 --> 00:23:43,359
Speaker 3: OPI responds, to be fair, Stephanie has been cool about it.

513
00:23:43,480 --> 00:23:44,760
Speaker 1: She hopes she apologized to you.

514
00:23:45,280 --> 00:23:48,280
Speaker 3: Yeah, she saw a bunch of posts about the Central

515
00:23:48,320 --> 00:23:52,200
Speaker 3: Park Karen when white Lady was pestering the black bird

516
00:23:52,240 --> 00:23:54,320
Speaker 3: watcher in the park and came to me asking why

517
00:23:54,359 --> 00:23:57,600
Speaker 3: everyone was calling the woman Karen when her name was Amy.

518
00:23:58,200 --> 00:24:00,680
Speaker 3: How do you know her name's getting back?

519
00:24:00,720 --> 00:24:01,280
Speaker 1: On Facebook?

520
00:24:01,359 --> 00:24:04,640
Speaker 3: She often asked me to be her Internet culture interpreter.

521
00:24:05,359 --> 00:24:07,840
Speaker 3: I told her, sorry, I'm not having this conversation because

522
00:24:07,880 --> 00:24:09,960
Speaker 3: we had a major conflict over it last year and

523
00:24:10,040 --> 00:24:12,080
Speaker 3: I'm not getting into it. I think that was the

524
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Speaker 3: first time she started to understand what I'd been telling her,

525
00:24:14,640 --> 00:24:17,040
Speaker 3: and in fairness, she didn't bring it up again after that.

526
00:24:17,359 --> 00:24:20,199
Speaker 3: CNH twenty five says, Oh wow, I didn't even know

527
00:24:20,280 --> 00:24:22,879
Speaker 3: a Karen was a thing. Until over a year ago.

528
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Speaker 1: Hopefully, by the time Karen is.

529
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Speaker 3: Old enough to go to school, no one will remember

530
00:24:26,640 --> 00:24:29,679
Speaker 3: what a Karen is. Maybe no, we still remember.

531
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Speaker 1: Yeah, she's probably in preschool now.

532
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Speaker 3: Ope, he responds weirdly. I've been hearing the term for years.

533
00:24:35,200 --> 00:24:37,960
Speaker 3: I used to work retail and heard it thrown around

534
00:24:38,000 --> 00:24:41,240
Speaker 3: a lot for entitled customers. I think it originally came

535
00:24:41,280 --> 00:24:43,879
Speaker 3: from a Dane Cook routine. I started seeing the memes

536
00:24:43,880 --> 00:24:48,240
Speaker 3: and Reddit post maybe twenty seventeen ish, and by late

537
00:24:48,280 --> 00:24:50,879
Speaker 3: twenty eighteen or early in twenty nineteen, it felt like

538
00:24:50,960 --> 00:24:54,679
Speaker 3: it was everywhere. Oh and there's another update for some reason.

539
00:24:54,880 --> 00:24:59,000
Speaker 3: Oh boy, they just keep coming, uh Teoko Genevieve. I

540
00:24:59,119 --> 00:25:03,960
Speaker 3: also loved Jennif And it's from this story that it's

541
00:25:04,000 --> 00:25:07,160
Speaker 3: a you know episode, the little like the app episode

542
00:25:07,200 --> 00:25:10,680
Speaker 3: where you read the stories. It's from that this one girl,

543
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Speaker 3: her name was Jenevieven and she was my favorite character,

544
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Speaker 3: the one where you like play as characters. Her name

545
00:25:15,920 --> 00:25:17,800
Speaker 3: was Jenevieve and I had never heard that, and they

546
00:25:18,160 --> 00:25:18,960
Speaker 3: thought her like jen.

547
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Speaker 1: I was like, that's super funny.

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Speaker 2: There is a song where Genevieve isn't it And it's

549
00:25:23,080 --> 00:25:25,440
Speaker 2: called a boy named Pluto, and he goes Genevieve.

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00:25:27,359 --> 00:25:27,439
Speaker 3: Oh.

551
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Speaker 1: I also like the name Gwenevere. Gwenevere. It's from like

552
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Speaker 1: the Arthur. I knew a Gwen. Yeah, like, yeah, Gwen

553
00:25:34,560 --> 00:25:36,720
Speaker 1: for sure, but it comes from like Camelon Arthur King.

554
00:25:36,800 --> 00:25:39,080
Speaker 2: Arthur names names names. By the way, I was gonna

555
00:25:39,080 --> 00:25:40,520
Speaker 2: be named Cameron or Logan.

556
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Speaker 3: By the way, Cameron and Logan, then Riley.

557
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Speaker 2: But I went with Riley because there was this lady

558
00:25:45,440 --> 00:25:48,359
Speaker 2: at my mom's church that all, like anytime my mom

559
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Speaker 2: was like, oh, I'm gonna name my kid this, that

560
00:25:50,080 --> 00:25:52,919
Speaker 2: lady would be like, I'm actually gonna yeah, and it

561
00:25:52,960 --> 00:25:55,480
Speaker 2: went to Cameron, Logan, another name, and then my mom

562
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Speaker 2: just finally told her my name of my kid, Casper.

563
00:25:58,720 --> 00:26:00,320
Speaker 2: Did you really liked Riley?

564
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Speaker 3: I think probably's a good name.

565
00:26:01,640 --> 00:26:04,200
Speaker 2: I could see myself as a Logan or honestly, Cameron too.

566
00:26:04,280 --> 00:26:06,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, I can see you as a Logan. I like

567
00:26:07,000 --> 00:26:07,679
Speaker 3: the name Logan.

568
00:26:08,200 --> 00:26:11,600
Speaker 2: A cousin, nephew named cousin named Logan, cousin nephew.

569
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Speaker 1: Cousin nephew nephew more so than a cousin honestly.

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Speaker 3: Update two two years later, Oh wow, hi all, I've

571
00:26:19,760 --> 00:26:22,400
Speaker 3: gotten a few messages over the years asking for updates,

572
00:26:22,400 --> 00:26:25,520
Speaker 3: and since we just celebrated Karen's third birthday, I wanted

573
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Speaker 3: to circle back to anyone following this story. First, Baby

574
00:26:28,720 --> 00:26:31,320
Speaker 3: Karen not so much a baby anymore. She's a toddler

575
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Speaker 3: now is doing amazingly on her developmental milestones. She's a

576
00:26:37,520 --> 00:26:40,919
Speaker 3: very bright child, sharp as the sharpest tack, and extremely

577
00:26:40,960 --> 00:26:44,040
Speaker 3: tuned into her environment. She loves books already and will

578
00:26:44,080 --> 00:26:47,160
Speaker 3: study the pictures for huge stretches of time and claim

579
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Speaker 3: to be reading. I'm fully convinced this child was going

580
00:26:50,359 --> 00:26:53,960
Speaker 3: to grow up to be an actual genius. My nephew

581
00:26:54,960 --> 00:26:57,760
Speaker 3: reads the books and after three times he memorizes them,

582
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Speaker 3: and then he reads them and then he if I

583
00:27:00,119 --> 00:27:03,040
Speaker 3: say one thing from the book, he'll do the entire thing.

584
00:27:06,160 --> 00:27:10,400
Speaker 3: You off tues Niece or nephew is better regarding the name. Unfortunately,

585
00:27:10,480 --> 00:27:13,240
Speaker 3: when Karen started daycare earlier this year, she got grief

586
00:27:13,280 --> 00:27:15,960
Speaker 3: for it pretty quickly from the older kids the Daycaren

587
00:27:16,000 --> 00:27:18,439
Speaker 3: mixes the ages together at a couple of points throughout

588
00:27:18,440 --> 00:27:22,240
Speaker 3: the day, and while there fortunately wasn't much direct bullying,

589
00:27:22,320 --> 00:27:25,000
Speaker 3: two of the five year olds must have heard and

590
00:27:25,119 --> 00:27:27,520
Speaker 3: internalized the connotations of the name at home.

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00:27:29,080 --> 00:27:30,840
Speaker 1: Oh no, oh no.

592
00:27:31,240 --> 00:27:34,959
Speaker 3: They found her name absolutely hysterical and spread the idea

593
00:27:35,080 --> 00:27:38,040
Speaker 3: that there was something funny or wrong about it. The

594
00:27:38,119 --> 00:27:40,679
Speaker 3: daycare staff made every effort to shut it down and

595
00:27:40,760 --> 00:27:43,880
Speaker 3: let Stephanie and her husband know right away. After about

596
00:27:43,920 --> 00:27:46,760
Speaker 3: a month, with little success, Stephanie and her husband decided

597
00:27:46,840 --> 00:27:49,560
Speaker 3: Karen would go by Carrie from now on.

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00:27:49,880 --> 00:27:52,720
Speaker 1: Wow. I actually thought about that two seconds ago. I

599
00:27:52,760 --> 00:27:54,600
Speaker 1: was like, maybe what if they just changed their name

600
00:27:54,640 --> 00:27:57,480
Speaker 1: to Gary? But then way, but then they have the

601
00:27:57,520 --> 00:28:00,639
Speaker 1: new problem because now they're gonna think of the book Carrie.

602
00:28:00,880 --> 00:28:01,600
Speaker 2: I don't know that, but.

603
00:28:01,600 --> 00:28:06,920
Speaker 1: Like the movie where she prom Stephen King what these

604
00:28:06,920 --> 00:28:07,760
Speaker 1: are famous things?

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00:28:07,920 --> 00:28:08,639
Speaker 2: I don't remember that.

606
00:28:08,680 --> 00:28:08,840
Speaker 3: One.

607
00:28:08,920 --> 00:28:11,240
Speaker 2: I did know a girl named Carrie, and she reminded

608
00:28:11,240 --> 00:28:13,040
Speaker 2: me of Along came Polly.

609
00:28:13,359 --> 00:28:16,359
Speaker 3: My one like first friend in gymnastics. Her name was Carrie.

610
00:28:16,440 --> 00:28:18,600
Speaker 3: And then she moved and she was so said she

611
00:28:18,760 --> 00:28:21,439
Speaker 3: like called her mom, called my mom and was like,

612
00:28:21,480 --> 00:28:23,800
Speaker 3: Carrie was up all night crying because she said that

613
00:28:23,840 --> 00:28:25,560
Speaker 3: she was going to miss your daughter. And I was like,

614
00:28:26,520 --> 00:28:29,360
Speaker 3: stop And I don't think she really even knows who

615
00:28:29,359 --> 00:28:30,280
Speaker 3: I am, because I follow her on.

616
00:28:30,720 --> 00:28:32,119
Speaker 2: You should hit her up, and I remember that one

617
00:28:32,160 --> 00:28:33,080
Speaker 2: time you actually liked me.

618
00:28:33,800 --> 00:28:35,679
Speaker 1: We were like six seven.

619
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Speaker 3: Maybe I don't. It was already an established nickname a

620
00:28:39,560 --> 00:28:43,000
Speaker 3: lot of family and friends used, and that Karen recognized

621
00:28:43,080 --> 00:28:47,000
Speaker 3: as referring to herself. Stephanie and I never fully revisited

622
00:28:47,040 --> 00:28:49,720
Speaker 3: what happened during her pregnancy, but when she told me

623
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Speaker 3: what was going on at the daycare, she apologized to me.

624
00:28:52,880 --> 00:28:56,040
Speaker 1: Finally, it only took two years for her to realize

625
00:28:56,080 --> 00:28:56,560
Speaker 1: you were right.

626
00:28:57,080 --> 00:29:00,200
Speaker 2: Also, I'm sorry you held onto this for two years.

627
00:29:00,280 --> 00:29:04,040
Speaker 2: This is great. Yeah, she is wild, she's three.

628
00:29:04,320 --> 00:29:04,760
Speaker 1: Yeah.

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00:29:05,200 --> 00:29:08,200
Speaker 3: I immediately felt terrible and reassured her there was no

630
00:29:08,360 --> 00:29:11,880
Speaker 3: reason to that emotions are complicated when you're pregnant, and

631
00:29:11,920 --> 00:29:15,800
Speaker 3: that I thought Carrie was a great solution. Though, changing

632
00:29:15,800 --> 00:29:18,840
Speaker 3: what you're used to calling someone is genuinely hard, and

633
00:29:19,080 --> 00:29:22,520
Speaker 3: I'm still catching myself every time. I also think my

634
00:29:22,560 --> 00:29:25,240
Speaker 3: approach back then was very clumsy and I could have

635
00:29:25,280 --> 00:29:27,760
Speaker 3: done a better job bringing it up. That said, with

636
00:29:27,880 --> 00:29:30,240
Speaker 3: the distance of time, I'm really glad I did. I

637
00:29:30,280 --> 00:29:32,680
Speaker 3: feel like I owed Stephanie that information and I can

638
00:29:32,680 --> 00:29:35,520
Speaker 3: feel good about giving it to her. In summary, all

639
00:29:35,600 --> 00:29:38,840
Speaker 3: as well, we've hit a little bump with other kids' reactions.

640
00:29:39,200 --> 00:29:41,240
Speaker 3: But in some ways it's better to get this out

641
00:29:41,240 --> 00:29:43,800
Speaker 3: of the way now when Carrie doesn't really understand what's

642
00:29:43,800 --> 00:29:47,680
Speaker 3: happening than in kindergarten or elementary school, when full on

643
00:29:47,840 --> 00:29:50,960
Speaker 3: bullying could be a risk. She's adjusting really well to

644
00:29:51,040 --> 00:29:54,560
Speaker 3: going by her nickname full time, and Stephanie and her

645
00:29:54,640 --> 00:29:58,960
Speaker 3: husband plan to enroll her as Carrie in all future schooling.

646
00:29:59,360 --> 00:30:01,480
Speaker 3: So what was the point of naming her Karen then?

647
00:30:01,520 --> 00:30:04,440
Speaker 1: And you're just gonna calling Well, they they didn't realize

648
00:30:04,640 --> 00:30:07,479
Speaker 1: they well they didn't. They were told, and they ignored it,

649
00:30:07,560 --> 00:30:10,000
Speaker 1: and then three years later they were like, ooh, shoot,

650
00:30:10,280 --> 00:30:13,440
Speaker 1: we've made an error and now she must go by Kerry.

651
00:30:13,800 --> 00:30:13,960
Speaker 3: Edit.

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Speaker 2: Hey, it's Dakota, your favorite goofball host here, and we're

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Speaker 2: gonna get back to the stories. But here's three minutes

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655
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Speaker 3: Really disappointed to be getting hate messages directed at Carrie,

656
00:30:25,920 --> 00:30:28,840
Speaker 3: wishing terrible things on her and calling her the sea word.

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00:30:29,080 --> 00:30:30,960
Speaker 1: She's three, What does she doing?

658
00:30:32,960 --> 00:30:34,480
Speaker 3: I don't know who's coming after the three year old

659
00:30:34,480 --> 00:30:36,800
Speaker 3: in the chat, but where reading after a three year old?

660
00:30:36,960 --> 00:30:40,800
Speaker 2: It's probably because she has a sleigh c un t Bob.

661
00:30:41,720 --> 00:30:43,000
Speaker 1: She's got a little baby, Bob.

662
00:30:43,440 --> 00:30:45,720
Speaker 2: Dude. Remember the movie The Prince of Egypt.

663
00:30:46,000 --> 00:30:46,400
Speaker 1: Yeah.

664
00:30:46,440 --> 00:30:49,200
Speaker 2: The only thing Angie would commentate about is is Bob's

665
00:30:49,320 --> 00:30:52,480
Speaker 2: always got a little This is Untie Sleigh Bob going

666
00:30:52,560 --> 00:30:55,400
Speaker 2: and I'm like, dude, what you learn nothing in this movie?

667
00:30:56,120 --> 00:30:57,200
Speaker 1: They're wearing wigs.

668
00:30:57,360 --> 00:31:01,440
Speaker 3: Please remember she's an innocent child. Two point of clarification.

669
00:31:01,920 --> 00:31:05,280
Speaker 3: The boys at daycare apparently didn't know Karen was a name.

670
00:31:05,800 --> 00:31:08,160
Speaker 3: The way they'd heard it used at home made them

671
00:31:08,200 --> 00:31:10,440
Speaker 3: think it was just a term to insult people, maybe

672
00:31:10,480 --> 00:31:13,280
Speaker 3: a bad word. That's why they found it so funny,

673
00:31:13,320 --> 00:31:16,440
Speaker 3: because in their worldview, it was like meeting someone named

674
00:31:16,520 --> 00:31:20,320
Speaker 3: fartface or a hole. Things at daycare are now back

675
00:31:20,320 --> 00:31:23,760
Speaker 3: to normal. The other kids call her Carrie, and everyone

676
00:31:23,880 --> 00:31:27,440
Speaker 3: has fortunately moved on. There are some comments deleted, says

677
00:31:27,480 --> 00:31:29,520
Speaker 3: so Stephanie can only dish it out. What a great

678
00:31:29,560 --> 00:31:30,280
Speaker 3: friendship you have.

679
00:31:31,800 --> 00:31:34,719
Speaker 1: I feel like we're past this, LMAO.

680
00:31:35,000 --> 00:31:38,200
Speaker 3: I'm sorry, but your friends suck your mom and Anne

681
00:31:38,200 --> 00:31:40,440
Speaker 3: who blamed you as well. Gosh, I'm glad I have

682
00:31:40,480 --> 00:31:42,720
Speaker 3: two friends in low contact with crazy people.

683
00:31:43,360 --> 00:31:44,320
Speaker 1: A pe response.

684
00:31:44,560 --> 00:31:47,320
Speaker 3: Stephanie is genuinely a great friend. And a good person,

685
00:31:47,640 --> 00:31:51,120
Speaker 3: and also a cousin. And also she once dropped everything

686
00:31:51,120 --> 00:31:53,640
Speaker 3: and drove three hundred miles after I'd been in a

687
00:31:53,680 --> 00:31:56,520
Speaker 3: relatively minor car accident in a city I lived in

688
00:31:56,640 --> 00:31:57,240
Speaker 3: all alone.

689
00:31:57,240 --> 00:31:58,080
Speaker 1: As a young adult.

690
00:31:58,320 --> 00:32:01,280
Speaker 3: She once gifted me fifteen hundred dollar there's no questions, asked,

691
00:32:01,600 --> 00:32:03,720
Speaker 3: insisting nine never pay it back. When I needed to

692
00:32:03,720 --> 00:32:06,040
Speaker 3: get out of a really bad laving situation well broke.

693
00:32:06,800 --> 00:32:10,320
Speaker 3: She's loyal, kind, and has incredible character. This post is

694
00:32:10,360 --> 00:32:13,840
Speaker 3: a tiny, tiny snapshot of who she is. When I

695
00:32:13,920 --> 00:32:17,560
Speaker 3: raised my concerns, Stephanie was emotional, very pregnant, and somewhat

696
00:32:17,560 --> 00:32:20,520
Speaker 3: sleep deprived. Her pregnancy was rough on her body, and

697
00:32:20,560 --> 00:32:22,440
Speaker 3: on top of the hormones, I think she was just

698
00:32:22,520 --> 00:32:24,920
Speaker 3: genuinely confused by what I was trying to tell her.

699
00:32:25,280 --> 00:32:27,920
Speaker 1: I think it's kind of ridiculous that all the comments,

700
00:32:28,360 --> 00:32:32,400
Speaker 1: even though you've released a three year update, are still

701
00:32:32,720 --> 00:32:34,120
Speaker 1: attacking you. Guys.

702
00:32:34,240 --> 00:32:35,720
Speaker 2: We have another update a year later.

703
00:32:35,920 --> 00:32:39,800
Speaker 3: What child?

704
00:32:40,000 --> 00:32:42,800
Speaker 2: How did they call this kid that? At a young age?

705
00:32:43,000 --> 00:32:44,880
Speaker 2: Do you think this kid turned into one?

706
00:32:45,040 --> 00:32:46,960
Speaker 1: I don't think that a child can be a Karen.

707
00:32:47,160 --> 00:32:50,120
Speaker 2: Oh, honey, no, I have seen a four year old

708
00:32:50,200 --> 00:32:53,760
Speaker 2: asked for the manager. It has happened. My milk sounds wrong.

709
00:32:54,400 --> 00:32:56,240
Speaker 1: Your milk sounds wrong.

710
00:32:56,040 --> 00:32:59,880
Speaker 2: Because they don't know the differences between milk tastes sounds. Listen,

711
00:33:00,280 --> 00:33:01,080
Speaker 2: learn see.

712
00:33:01,360 --> 00:33:04,840
Speaker 1: I don't even think they're drinking milk at four what

713
00:33:05,480 --> 00:33:08,600
Speaker 1: cow milk, almond milk, oat milk.

714
00:33:08,880 --> 00:33:10,160
Speaker 2: They're drinking milk.

715
00:33:10,240 --> 00:33:12,800
Speaker 1: Drinking all the milk, and they're calling the manager about it.

716
00:33:13,600 --> 00:33:14,440
Speaker 2: I've seen it happen.

717
00:33:14,960 --> 00:33:16,280
Speaker 3: I'm in dinner Fighting.

718
00:33:18,000 --> 00:33:20,160
Speaker 1: Update three one year later.

719
00:33:23,680 --> 00:33:26,760
Speaker 3: For those of you who've contacted me asking for an update,

720
00:33:26,840 --> 00:33:28,840
Speaker 3: I wanted to circle back and close the book on

721
00:33:28,880 --> 00:33:30,360
Speaker 3: the baby Karen and Carry chapter.

722
00:33:30,560 --> 00:33:33,760
Speaker 2: Thank god. Stop asking about what.

723
00:33:33,640 --> 00:33:36,400
Speaker 1: Other update do you need? How long can this go on?

724
00:33:36,640 --> 00:33:37,760
Speaker 2: She's in pre school now.

725
00:33:38,160 --> 00:33:38,800
Speaker 1: Oh no way.

726
00:33:39,320 --> 00:33:43,200
Speaker 3: As of last month, Carrie is now legally Caroline, and

727
00:33:43,240 --> 00:33:45,640
Speaker 3: she's even been issued a new birth certificate.

728
00:33:46,040 --> 00:33:49,200
Speaker 1: Stop wow, change their name.

729
00:33:49,480 --> 00:33:52,920
Speaker 2: Holy cow, you should get a double apology at this point.

730
00:33:53,120 --> 00:33:57,280
Speaker 1: That's correct, Warner. They should have done Caroline with a k.

731
00:33:57,880 --> 00:33:59,800
Speaker 1: They should have Well, you can be carried.

732
00:33:59,520 --> 00:34:02,680
Speaker 3: With Karen line, but then you're closer to carry book carry.

733
00:34:05,000 --> 00:34:05,920
Speaker 1: Yeah. I like karenline.

734
00:34:05,960 --> 00:34:08,719
Speaker 3: The day carry shoes had already gone away since the

735
00:34:08,760 --> 00:34:11,400
Speaker 3: switch to Carrie, but the legal change means the Karen

736
00:34:11,440 --> 00:34:14,560
Speaker 3: issue won't crop up when she starts school. There were

737
00:34:14,600 --> 00:34:17,440
Speaker 3: also some other minor incidents that push Stephanie and her

738
00:34:17,520 --> 00:34:18,319
Speaker 3: husband towards it.

739
00:34:18,800 --> 00:34:20,400
Speaker 2: What other issues.

740
00:34:20,560 --> 00:34:23,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, Almost anytime they had to provide Karen's legal name

741
00:34:23,960 --> 00:34:27,200
Speaker 3: for a service, they'd get an immediate reaction, even from adults.

742
00:34:27,200 --> 00:34:30,520
Speaker 1: This is so weird. This is actually really weird. If I,

743
00:34:31,040 --> 00:34:33,200
Speaker 1: you know, if someone said, oh, this is my daughter Karen,

744
00:34:33,200 --> 00:34:36,680
Speaker 1: I wouldn't be like, yeah, Karen. Why are they all

745
00:34:36,760 --> 00:34:40,560
Speaker 1: having freaking like hernias every time they hear this name?

746
00:34:40,640 --> 00:34:41,920
Speaker 1: Who are these adults?

747
00:34:42,040 --> 00:34:44,320
Speaker 2: Should we add this to the band names in US?

748
00:34:44,760 --> 00:34:47,400
Speaker 1: I guess if this is people's reactions.

749
00:34:48,800 --> 00:34:50,840
Speaker 2: She's got gonna have to die with it, but no

750
00:34:50,960 --> 00:34:52,360
Speaker 2: other new kids should be born with it.

751
00:34:53,239 --> 00:34:55,440
Speaker 3: That's how I say it. And she's the only I

752
00:34:55,840 --> 00:34:58,600
Speaker 3: say aunt lahlah blah like to everyone else, I'm like, oh,

753
00:34:58,640 --> 00:35:02,840
Speaker 3: aunt Diana whatever. But for Karen, I just say Karen.

754
00:35:02,920 --> 00:35:05,759
Speaker 2: I have Aunt Diana too, not Diana, just Diane. I

755
00:35:05,800 --> 00:35:07,760
Speaker 2: have Aunt Diane. She lives in Tennessee.

756
00:35:07,880 --> 00:35:10,400
Speaker 1: You have an aunt aunt Diane Anne and aunt Diana

757
00:35:10,719 --> 00:35:11,440
Speaker 1: Aunt Diana.

758
00:35:11,920 --> 00:35:14,120
Speaker 2: No Aunt Dana what what.

759
00:35:14,280 --> 00:35:15,959
Speaker 1: You're saying too many things over there?

760
00:35:16,520 --> 00:35:18,879
Speaker 2: Yeah, you said different names, saying so many names.

761
00:35:19,080 --> 00:35:21,000
Speaker 1: Aunt Diana, Aunt Diana.

762
00:35:21,239 --> 00:35:24,240
Speaker 2: Yep, she's married to yeah uncle Alan.

763
00:35:24,800 --> 00:35:27,880
Speaker 3: Oh, mind's my aunt Diane.

764
00:35:27,920 --> 00:35:28,759
Speaker 1: She's married to my uncle.

765
00:35:28,800 --> 00:35:31,320
Speaker 2: J Aunt Diana, not Diana.

766
00:35:31,800 --> 00:35:32,840
Speaker 3: There's an e not an a.

767
00:35:33,800 --> 00:35:36,560
Speaker 1: We're saying the same thing you're saying, Diana.

768
00:35:37,560 --> 00:35:38,479
Speaker 2: We're gonna keep dying.

769
00:35:40,239 --> 00:35:44,200
Speaker 3: Usually just a meaningful look, but barbed comments were unusual.

770
00:35:44,480 --> 00:35:46,920
Speaker 3: The final straw was at the airport getting ready to

771
00:35:46,960 --> 00:35:51,040
Speaker 3: fly to visit Stephanie's in laws. The TSA agent at

772
00:35:51,040 --> 00:35:53,919
Speaker 3: security made a snarky comment, and later when they asked

773
00:35:53,960 --> 00:35:56,560
Speaker 3: the gate agent about their seats, she rudely laughed at

774
00:35:56,560 --> 00:35:59,839
Speaker 3: seeing Carrie's ticket, then showed the agent next to her,

775
00:36:00,120 --> 00:36:02,440
Speaker 3: shook her head and said, poor kid.

776
00:36:02,280 --> 00:36:04,480
Speaker 1: Who are the literally who are these people?

777
00:36:05,400 --> 00:36:06,080
Speaker 2: People are like?

778
00:36:06,719 --> 00:36:09,759
Speaker 1: This is so confusing to me. What do you mean?

779
00:36:09,920 --> 00:36:13,800
Speaker 1: The worker, the person who works at the airport made

780
00:36:13,840 --> 00:36:14,399
Speaker 1: fun of a.

781
00:36:14,480 --> 00:36:17,719
Speaker 3: Baby's Yeah, I feel like that's on them what. Then

782
00:36:17,760 --> 00:36:19,919
Speaker 3: showed the agent next to her, who shook her head

783
00:36:19,960 --> 00:36:22,880
Speaker 3: and said poor kid to her co worker, while fully

784
00:36:22,880 --> 00:36:24,560
Speaker 3: ignoring Stephanie and her husband.

785
00:36:24,840 --> 00:36:27,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, I am glad that you changed your name, because

786
00:36:27,160 --> 00:36:30,200
Speaker 2: for the rest of your child's life. This is what's

787
00:36:30,200 --> 00:36:32,640
Speaker 2: gonna happen anytime her name's mentioned, and everyone's gonna be

788
00:36:32,719 --> 00:36:34,279
Speaker 2: very reluctant. It's gonna be bad.

789
00:36:34,600 --> 00:36:35,120
Speaker 1: If anything.

790
00:36:35,320 --> 00:36:37,960
Speaker 3: My mom is a Karen. She always asks for the manager.

791
00:36:38,520 --> 00:36:40,840
Speaker 2: See it's no longer a name, it's a label.

792
00:36:41,000 --> 00:36:45,040
Speaker 3: But her sister, her sister is Karen Kurrian.

793
00:36:45,640 --> 00:36:46,439
Speaker 1: I'm gonna call her.

794
00:36:46,520 --> 00:36:47,080
Speaker 2: What was that?

795
00:36:47,560 --> 00:36:49,520
Speaker 1: Sorry? Say her name? Urian?

796
00:36:50,160 --> 00:36:55,040
Speaker 3: Hi Kirie on d she calls me Veen. Only one

797
00:36:55,040 --> 00:36:57,960
Speaker 3: in my life whoever calls me Vien? And they had

798
00:36:57,960 --> 00:37:01,200
Speaker 3: this interaction in front of Carrie. Something about that day

799
00:37:01,440 --> 00:37:04,200
Speaker 3: was a turning point, and they started the name change

800
00:37:04,200 --> 00:37:06,680
Speaker 3: process as soon as they got home. It was much

801
00:37:06,680 --> 00:37:09,400
Speaker 3: easier than they expected and cost a grand total of

802
00:37:09,440 --> 00:37:10,200
Speaker 3: thirty dollars.

803
00:37:11,040 --> 00:37:12,319
Speaker 1: Thirty dollars to change my name.

804
00:37:12,440 --> 00:37:15,160
Speaker 3: Pretty I want to change it too. I would change

805
00:37:15,200 --> 00:37:17,680
Speaker 3: it to your majesty, but apparently that's illegal. And this

806
00:37:17,760 --> 00:37:18,719
Speaker 3: is your majesty.

807
00:37:19,040 --> 00:37:28,799
Speaker 1: Whenever what was the name? Were playing your name? Were

808
00:37:28,800 --> 00:37:29,759
Speaker 1: you just muted noise?

809
00:37:30,320 --> 00:37:34,640
Speaker 3: What is he doing? I'm going to finish the story.

810
00:37:34,760 --> 00:37:37,200
Speaker 3: Does my voice sound weird? Do you make my voice

811
00:37:37,239 --> 00:37:42,960
Speaker 3: sound weird. Carrie is a joyful, sociable little girl, and

812
00:37:43,120 --> 00:37:46,200
Speaker 3: while it's impossible to know right now if these experiences

813
00:37:46,239 --> 00:37:49,880
Speaker 3: caused any lasting damage, and I sincerely hope they didn't,

814
00:37:49,960 --> 00:37:52,760
Speaker 3: I'm happy to see she continues to be a very outgoing,

815
00:37:52,800 --> 00:37:56,040
Speaker 3: confident child. The conversation with Stephanie, I mentioned the last

816
00:37:56,160 --> 00:37:59,160
Speaker 3: update was awkward and brief, but we've gone back into

817
00:37:59,160 --> 00:38:03,440
Speaker 3: it a few times. She's apologized profusely for her initial reaction.

818
00:38:03,880 --> 00:38:06,880
Speaker 3: I've apologized for approaching things so poorly and not telling

819
00:38:06,920 --> 00:38:09,759
Speaker 3: her right away what our friends were saying behind her back,

820
00:38:10,080 --> 00:38:12,879
Speaker 3: and we mainly ended up focusing on the spiraling from

821
00:38:12,880 --> 00:38:16,480
Speaker 3: my mom and aunt and what a mess that turned into. Together,

822
00:38:16,560 --> 00:38:19,200
Speaker 3: we've started to unpack some of the family's stuff underneath

823
00:38:19,239 --> 00:38:22,520
Speaker 3: all of it. For context, Our maternal grandparents were a nightmare.

824
00:38:22,920 --> 00:38:26,440
Speaker 3: Our grandfather was an authoritarian who called himself the spiritual

825
00:38:26,520 --> 00:38:28,520
Speaker 3: leader and ultimate authority of the family.

826
00:38:28,920 --> 00:38:33,040
Speaker 1: Weird cool, your majesty, He's like, call me, your majesty,

827
00:38:33,080 --> 00:38:35,680
Speaker 1: that's my name. I am Jesus Christ.

828
00:38:36,760 --> 00:38:41,280
Speaker 3: Our grandmother was a manipulative, self absorbed person who tormented

829
00:38:41,280 --> 00:38:44,480
Speaker 3: my mom and aunt their entire childhoods. As a result,

830
00:38:44,560 --> 00:38:47,680
Speaker 3: the two of them trauma bonded and grew into extremely anxious,

831
00:38:47,800 --> 00:38:50,799
Speaker 3: reactive adults. Any whiff of conflict.

832
00:38:51,520 --> 00:38:54,120
Speaker 2: My little reaction. Why are we getting this over a

833
00:38:54,160 --> 00:38:56,520
Speaker 2: child's name? Why are we getting these trauma bonding stories.

834
00:38:56,560 --> 00:38:56,960
Speaker 1: I don't know.

835
00:38:57,360 --> 00:39:00,319
Speaker 2: We're focused on the wrong slice of the cake here, guys, Now,

836
00:39:00,320 --> 00:39:02,480
Speaker 2: we're just rambling. Now. We just want attention.

837
00:39:03,280 --> 00:39:06,359
Speaker 1: I don't carry, I don't care. Worry about your name.

838
00:39:08,920 --> 00:39:11,160
Speaker 1: He's crashing out. I'm scared.

839
00:39:12,160 --> 00:39:16,400
Speaker 2: Just finish this. Stop talking. Nah, not you, Savannah. You're

840
00:39:16,400 --> 00:39:20,640
Speaker 2: doing great, just the reader. Oh we get it. Oh oh, okay,

841
00:39:20,800 --> 00:39:22,719
Speaker 2: now you're doing You're doing a fantastic job, and we'm

842
00:39:22,760 --> 00:39:25,160
Speaker 2: soup proud of you. But no, Penie's shut that hell off.

843
00:39:26,600 --> 00:39:30,319
Speaker 3: Any whiff of conflict sends them into panic mode, scrambling

844
00:39:30,360 --> 00:39:34,080
Speaker 3: to clumsily smooth things over. Stephanie and I have both

845
00:39:34,120 --> 00:39:36,800
Speaker 3: been working hard to build better boundaries with our mom's

846
00:39:36,840 --> 00:39:39,839
Speaker 3: generation and have agreed to be cautious about what we

847
00:39:39,880 --> 00:39:43,719
Speaker 3: share with them, especially anything highly emotional. I've been in

848
00:39:43,760 --> 00:39:46,160
Speaker 3: therapy for a couple of years now, and Stephanie started

849
00:39:46,239 --> 00:39:46,959
Speaker 3: late last year.

850
00:39:47,440 --> 00:39:50,920
Speaker 2: Okay, great, good for you.

851
00:39:51,800 --> 00:39:55,440
Speaker 3: We've been talking about how our grandparents, behave you're rippled

852
00:39:55,440 --> 00:39:58,040
Speaker 3: down to us since Stephanie has determined the cycle ends

853
00:39:58,040 --> 00:40:00,319
Speaker 3: with her and won't touch carry got a.

854
00:40:00,360 --> 00:40:02,880
Speaker 2: Touch Gary, it already has. Her name is changed.

855
00:40:03,040 --> 00:40:04,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, you had to change your name.

856
00:40:04,560 --> 00:40:06,440
Speaker 3: There's a little bit left here, and I'm just gonna

857
00:40:06,440 --> 00:40:07,279
Speaker 3: go ahead and read it.

858
00:40:07,640 --> 00:40:09,520
Speaker 1: Read it, read it, re read it.

859
00:40:09,800 --> 00:40:12,359
Speaker 3: For anyone still inclined to be critical of Stephanie, I'll

860
00:40:12,400 --> 00:40:15,600
Speaker 3: emphasize again how out of character her initial reaction was

861
00:40:15,640 --> 00:40:18,960
Speaker 3: and how much physical, hormonal, and emotional upheaval she was

862
00:40:19,000 --> 00:40:22,560
Speaker 3: going through. She's been my most loyal, trusted friend for

863
00:40:22,680 --> 00:40:25,160
Speaker 3: pretty much my entire life and has fully earned some

864
00:40:25,239 --> 00:40:28,280
Speaker 3: grace for reacting less than perfectly when she was sleep deprived,

865
00:40:28,560 --> 00:40:31,879
Speaker 3: hormonally wrecked, and brain fogged. She's read these posts now,

866
00:40:31,960 --> 00:40:34,160
Speaker 3: along with most of your comments, and after I explain

867
00:40:34,239 --> 00:40:37,319
Speaker 3: what read it is, they were actually helpful and to

868
00:40:37,400 --> 00:40:39,680
Speaker 3: both of us in our talks about our family dynamic.

869
00:40:40,080 --> 00:40:42,799
Speaker 3: I can't imagine I'll have any more updates, but thanks

870
00:40:42,800 --> 00:40:44,440
Speaker 3: for foaming along the last few years.

871
00:40:44,520 --> 00:40:50,200
Speaker 1: You're welcome. That was a lot of updates for a name. Yes,

872
00:40:50,800 --> 00:40:55,600
Speaker 1: I agree, Hemmingwing says, Yes, Dale is a good name. Wait,

873
00:40:55,640 --> 00:40:59,719
Speaker 1: that's from yesterday. Dale surprises coworkers with the thoughtful seafood

874
00:40:59,760 --> 00:41:03,040
Speaker 1: hop lunch. I'm glad Carrie has a new name that

875
00:41:03,280 --> 00:41:05,239
Speaker 1: will not be made fun of.

876
00:41:05,760 --> 00:41:07,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, me too. Good job, Caroline.

877
00:41:07,680 --> 00:41:09,720
Speaker 3: What are your guys's names for your children?

878
00:41:09,880 --> 00:41:11,759
Speaker 1: That's what I was saying. I really don't have that

879
00:41:11,800 --> 00:41:13,960
Speaker 1: many have got one of you? Well, I guess I

880
00:41:13,960 --> 00:41:16,359
Speaker 1: could add Hazel to the list you want to hear mine,

881
00:41:16,360 --> 00:41:19,560
Speaker 1: I have a list. I've got Lucy. Lucy's cute. I

882
00:41:19,680 --> 00:41:22,759
Speaker 1: like the name Lucy. This makes me think of Narnia. Oh,

883
00:41:23,160 --> 00:41:25,640
Speaker 1: that makes me think of the Peanuts. Oh that's cute. Two.

884
00:41:26,000 --> 00:41:27,520
Speaker 1: All right, let's do it.

885
00:41:27,680 --> 00:41:30,560
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886
00:41:30,600 --> 00:41:32,560
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887
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888
00:41:34,280 --> 00:41:36,600
Speaker 1: My sister put me on a blind date and lie

889
00:41:36,640 --> 00:41:39,400
Speaker 1: to both of us about it. How'd she lie to herself?

890
00:41:39,600 --> 00:41:43,359
Speaker 1: To cut a very long story, shores, my sister put

891
00:41:43,360 --> 00:41:45,880
Speaker 1: me on a blind date with a wonderful woman. I

892
00:41:45,920 --> 00:41:49,520
Speaker 1: agreed to it reluctantly, but was pleasantly surprised on said date.

893
00:41:50,080 --> 00:41:52,200
Speaker 1: She was pretty much my type and it was the

894
00:41:52,200 --> 00:41:54,279
Speaker 1: best date I had been on in years. O.

895
00:41:54,320 --> 00:41:58,160
Speaker 2: Wow, dang, I've seen this go wrong with two women

896
00:41:58,320 --> 00:41:59,439
Speaker 2: and I'll show you the video later.

897
00:41:59,520 --> 00:42:00,560
Speaker 1: Wait it is two women.

898
00:42:00,760 --> 00:42:02,279
Speaker 2: It's two women, is it?

899
00:42:02,560 --> 00:42:04,120
Speaker 1: Yeah? It didn't didn't specify, it.

900
00:42:04,120 --> 00:42:05,880
Speaker 2: Didn't wait wait wait, let me get it in the title.

901
00:42:06,440 --> 00:42:08,000
Speaker 2: Oh did not specify.

902
00:42:08,280 --> 00:42:09,279
Speaker 1: Okay, we don't know.

903
00:42:09,640 --> 00:42:13,080
Speaker 2: Oh well, ohwi gets interesting. Oh my gosh, here's the issue.

904
00:42:13,719 --> 00:42:18,400
Speaker 1: The woman is twenty two. I'm forty three. Whoa why

905
00:42:18,440 --> 00:42:21,440
Speaker 1: would she do that? So are we wait? Wait, I'm sorry,

906
00:42:21,520 --> 00:42:25,000
Speaker 1: it's super mature for her age. What's that show where

907
00:42:25,040 --> 00:42:27,040
Speaker 1: they don't tell you the ages of the It's like

908
00:42:27,040 --> 00:42:30,640
Speaker 1: a reality show. Oh the number whatever?

909
00:42:30,760 --> 00:42:32,799
Speaker 2: I thought you're about to name an island for I.

910
00:42:32,719 --> 00:42:35,160
Speaker 1: Thought you were talking about island line, so I was.

911
00:42:35,719 --> 00:42:37,920
Speaker 2: I was thinking of what island.

912
00:42:39,440 --> 00:42:44,600
Speaker 1: No, there's like a newish reality TV show on Netflix

913
00:42:44,640 --> 00:42:48,040
Speaker 1: where age is just a yeah, it's like like ages.

914
00:42:48,640 --> 00:42:51,440
Speaker 1: I can't remember the name. Age means nothing, yeah, something

915
00:42:51,520 --> 00:42:56,040
Speaker 1: like that. And the whole show is just like people

916
00:42:56,080 --> 00:42:58,880
Speaker 1: of all different ages. It's kind of like love is Blind,

917
00:42:58,920 --> 00:43:01,759
Speaker 1: except you just don't know their ages. But it's such

918
00:43:01,760 --> 00:43:04,840
Speaker 1: a stupid idea because you can tell their ages.

919
00:43:05,520 --> 00:43:09,640
Speaker 2: I know the moms like the guys go after ilf's.

920
00:43:09,160 --> 00:43:11,799
Speaker 1: Oh yeah show. I love that show.

921
00:43:11,960 --> 00:43:13,880
Speaker 2: That's a play on with I love that.

922
00:43:14,040 --> 00:43:14,200
Speaker 3: You know.

923
00:43:14,200 --> 00:43:15,560
Speaker 2: Do you ever find yourself on that show?

924
00:43:15,719 --> 00:43:15,759
Speaker 1: What?

925
00:43:16,000 --> 00:43:17,040
Speaker 3: I find myself on that?

926
00:43:17,640 --> 00:43:20,200
Speaker 1: Not with my son? Yeah, that's so.

927
00:43:20,440 --> 00:43:23,520
Speaker 3: That's the kicker is you think you're going by yourself,

928
00:43:23,520 --> 00:43:26,479
Speaker 3: but then you're paired up with people your son's ats

929
00:43:26,480 --> 00:43:28,719
Speaker 3: and your son is there, Yeah, trying to get with

930
00:43:28,920 --> 00:43:30,280
Speaker 3: the girls your age anyway.

931
00:43:30,280 --> 00:43:33,200
Speaker 1: Heard, Now, this wouldn't have been an issue. It wouldn't

932
00:43:33,200 --> 00:43:35,440
Speaker 1: have been if we had just discussed this on the

933
00:43:35,440 --> 00:43:38,480
Speaker 1: first date, but foolishly we didn't. For some reason, this

934
00:43:38,560 --> 00:43:42,320
Speaker 1: conversation didn't come about for three months after the fact.

935
00:43:42,480 --> 00:43:45,160
Speaker 1: How do you not ask that, how do you not

936
00:43:45,320 --> 00:43:48,800
Speaker 1: see a twenty two year old and go don't eat them?

937
00:43:49,160 --> 00:43:50,680
Speaker 1: Or how do you see much of attraction? Thank you

938
00:43:50,719 --> 00:43:51,440
Speaker 1: Van Cabinet, Or.

939
00:43:51,719 --> 00:43:54,839
Speaker 2: I will say there is someone that I know and

940
00:43:55,480 --> 00:43:57,440
Speaker 2: I thought they were like one age, but they were

941
00:43:57,920 --> 00:44:01,200
Speaker 2: eight years off of that. They can't have refriends like that.

942
00:44:01,840 --> 00:44:04,280
Speaker 1: Just for some context, the blind date was on skype

943
00:44:04,719 --> 00:44:07,919
Speaker 1: okay because of the current pandemic, and we only got

944
00:44:07,920 --> 00:44:09,279
Speaker 1: to meet properly a few weeks ago.

945
00:44:09,320 --> 00:44:10,480
Speaker 2: You both probably had masks on.

946
00:44:10,719 --> 00:44:14,719
Speaker 1: That does over skypes people.

947
00:44:14,480 --> 00:44:15,680
Speaker 2: Wear masks in their car.

948
00:44:16,239 --> 00:44:20,280
Speaker 1: That makes more sense. I think due to being in lockdown,

949
00:44:20,360 --> 00:44:23,040
Speaker 1: we both enjoyed having someone to talk to. So where

950
00:44:23,080 --> 00:44:26,200
Speaker 1: does my sister come into it. At no point does

951
00:44:26,280 --> 00:44:29,600
Speaker 1: my sister ever mention the age gap was this big?

952
00:44:29,960 --> 00:44:32,200
Speaker 2: Okay? Yeah, yeah, By the.

953
00:44:32,200 --> 00:44:35,400
Speaker 1: Way, this comes from throwaway age gap relationship. And if

954
00:44:35,480 --> 00:44:36,920
Speaker 1: you want to spit your own stories, go to their

955
00:44:36,960 --> 00:44:40,040
Speaker 1: slash okay story. Tim subburd it. I'm Sophia, I'm Savannah,

956
00:44:40,080 --> 00:44:42,400
Speaker 1: I'm Riley, and we're here to give good of ice, scoofy.

957
00:44:42,400 --> 00:44:44,239
Speaker 1: But we don't have all the answers. We only know

958
00:44:44,280 --> 00:44:46,000
Speaker 1: what we'd do, so let us know what you would do.

959
00:44:46,000 --> 00:44:48,440
Speaker 1: In the comments, Obi says when she said younger, I

960
00:44:48,520 --> 00:44:51,600
Speaker 1: was presuming thirties, not barely out of high school. On

961
00:44:51,680 --> 00:44:53,640
Speaker 1: the other side, my sister had told the woman in

962
00:44:53,719 --> 00:44:56,279
Speaker 1: question that I was in my thirties, not forties.

963
00:44:56,640 --> 00:44:59,680
Speaker 2: Oh my god, why is she doing this?

964
00:45:00,120 --> 00:45:01,560
Speaker 1: If the sister was like, well, I don't want to

965
00:45:01,560 --> 00:45:02,879
Speaker 1: tell you guys the age I just want to see

966
00:45:02,920 --> 00:45:06,439
Speaker 1: if you get along maybe, but to actively this lead

967
00:45:06,640 --> 00:45:07,280
Speaker 1: is really weird.

968
00:45:07,400 --> 00:45:09,480
Speaker 3: I don't want to date anyone who's like close to

969
00:45:09,520 --> 00:45:10,600
Speaker 3: my parents' age.

970
00:45:10,760 --> 00:45:15,759
Speaker 1: No, my sister is thirty three, so I presume she

971
00:45:15,880 --> 00:45:18,359
Speaker 1: just thought we would be closer in age. Anyway, When

972
00:45:18,360 --> 00:45:22,040
Speaker 1: this revelation came about recently, I was seething an had

973
00:45:22,040 --> 00:45:24,200
Speaker 1: it out with my sister for matching me with someone

974
00:45:24,239 --> 00:45:27,719
Speaker 1: completely inappropriate, and for lying to both me and this

975
00:45:27,800 --> 00:45:30,919
Speaker 1: woman she claims to be a friend. She can't see

976
00:45:30,960 --> 00:45:33,360
Speaker 1: anything wrong with it because as far as she's concerned,

977
00:45:33,360 --> 00:45:36,000
Speaker 1: we're both adults and we've been going well for the

978
00:45:36,000 --> 00:45:36,840
Speaker 1: past few months.

979
00:45:37,160 --> 00:45:40,000
Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, wait for the past few months? Is

980
00:45:40,040 --> 00:45:40,920
Speaker 2: has it gone up?

981
00:45:41,080 --> 00:45:44,440
Speaker 1: Well? They only met each other in person, like I

982
00:45:44,480 --> 00:45:46,360
Speaker 1: think they said, like two weeks.

983
00:45:46,120 --> 00:45:48,840
Speaker 2: Ago, but a couple of months. You don't figure that

984
00:45:48,880 --> 00:45:50,399
Speaker 2: out though I know that's what I'm saying.

985
00:45:50,400 --> 00:45:52,480
Speaker 1: How like, how did you guys never talk about this?

986
00:45:52,960 --> 00:45:55,000
Speaker 1: Not to mention that I should have asked myself and

987
00:45:55,040 --> 00:45:58,080
Speaker 1: not presumed. My issue is the principal You can't lie

988
00:45:58,120 --> 00:46:01,160
Speaker 1: to people like that, especially as I don't very often anymore.

989
00:46:01,200 --> 00:46:03,680
Speaker 1: After my wife passed, she claimed she only did it

990
00:46:03,719 --> 00:46:05,960
Speaker 1: because she knew I would have said no otherwise.

991
00:46:06,160 --> 00:46:08,400
Speaker 2: Oh my gosh. Yes, there's a reason.

992
00:46:09,040 --> 00:46:10,960
Speaker 1: So am I the ale for having to go at her?

993
00:46:11,320 --> 00:46:14,239
Speaker 1: Or should I just be grateful for her kindness? You're

994
00:46:14,320 --> 00:46:18,400
Speaker 1: not the ale. It is weird to not tell someone

995
00:46:19,200 --> 00:46:22,080
Speaker 1: that pretty relevant information. So it's a little weird that

996
00:46:22,120 --> 00:46:23,640
Speaker 1: you guys never talked about it.

997
00:46:24,120 --> 00:46:26,680
Speaker 3: I feel like the sister kind of set you up

998
00:46:26,719 --> 00:46:30,960
Speaker 3: for failure. Yeah, and why, I have no idea, like,

999
00:46:31,360 --> 00:46:35,040
Speaker 3: couldn't she have just found someone maybe my age and

1000
00:46:35,239 --> 00:46:40,600
Speaker 3: maybe not like literally double my age, just out of

1001
00:46:40,680 --> 00:46:41,759
Speaker 3: college at it?

1002
00:46:41,920 --> 00:46:44,280
Speaker 1: Just to clarify, the woman I've been dating does pass

1003
00:46:44,360 --> 00:46:49,320
Speaker 1: for her late twenties. Ooh, don't tell her that. Ooh sorry,

1004
00:46:49,320 --> 00:46:51,600
Speaker 1: the twenty two year old I'm dating passes for her

1005
00:46:51,680 --> 00:46:52,440
Speaker 1: late twenties.

1006
00:46:52,640 --> 00:46:55,200
Speaker 2: She just looks mature something even.

1007
00:46:55,000 --> 00:46:56,840
Speaker 1: She herself confirms.

1008
00:46:56,600 --> 00:46:59,960
Speaker 2: Oh you're the ahle Now she confirms it.

1009
00:46:59,880 --> 00:47:01,960
Speaker 1: Like, yeah, I look old. I have only met her

1010
00:47:01,960 --> 00:47:04,319
Speaker 1: in person once, and the vast majority of the time

1011
00:47:04,360 --> 00:47:07,400
Speaker 1: we only call to the phone or texted due to

1012
00:47:07,600 --> 00:47:11,640
Speaker 1: our jobs having hectic schedules. There was no conversation about

1013
00:47:11,640 --> 00:47:14,719
Speaker 1: our childhood or anything which led us to believe the

1014
00:47:14,760 --> 00:47:17,440
Speaker 1: age gap was this large. And just to be clear,

1015
00:47:17,600 --> 00:47:20,600
Speaker 1: I'm not remotely comfortable with this gap, and my sister

1016
00:47:20,920 --> 00:47:24,960
Speaker 1: knew this, and there is an update. But yeah, I

1017
00:47:24,960 --> 00:47:27,200
Speaker 1: feel like it's super not cool of your sister to

1018
00:47:27,280 --> 00:47:29,839
Speaker 1: hide this, and I would be upset as well.

1019
00:47:30,000 --> 00:47:32,480
Speaker 2: I would too. Do you end the relationship though, I

1020
00:47:32,520 --> 00:47:32,880
Speaker 2: don't know.

1021
00:47:33,040 --> 00:47:35,680
Speaker 1: I don't know. The thing is that now you have

1022
00:47:35,800 --> 00:47:39,680
Speaker 1: the information and you can kind of go forward with

1023
00:47:40,120 --> 00:47:42,560
Speaker 1: all of the facts. It seems like it was going well.

1024
00:47:42,680 --> 00:47:44,839
Speaker 1: I mean, you guys have literally only been seeing each

1025
00:47:44,840 --> 00:47:47,520
Speaker 1: other in person for like two weeks, so it's really

1026
00:47:47,560 --> 00:47:50,680
Speaker 1: not I think, a total loss if the relationship ends here.

1027
00:47:51,239 --> 00:47:55,359
Speaker 1: But you can have that conversation with this girl and

1028
00:47:56,200 --> 00:47:57,440
Speaker 1: see what you both want to do.

1029
00:47:57,600 --> 00:47:59,880
Speaker 2: But then if you guys stick together. What your sister's

1030
00:48:00,040 --> 00:48:02,120
Speaker 2: said had a point. I didn't want this to get

1031
00:48:02,120 --> 00:48:03,960
Speaker 2: in the way your ages, and then they stay together.

1032
00:48:04,560 --> 00:48:04,719
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1033
00:48:04,800 --> 00:48:08,040
Speaker 2: Maybe maybe maybe she does a little bit of bad

1034
00:48:08,080 --> 00:48:08,839
Speaker 2: for the greater good.

1035
00:48:09,000 --> 00:48:11,279
Speaker 1: Yeah, maybe the sister thought that it would come up

1036
00:48:11,400 --> 00:48:14,000
Speaker 1: like a week, like a day after a day.

1037
00:48:14,280 --> 00:48:16,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, we can we talk to the sister about this.

1038
00:48:16,239 --> 00:48:17,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, She's like, I didn't realize you guys were gonna

1039
00:48:18,000 --> 00:48:20,839
Speaker 1: ask about each other's ages. I didn't realize you guys

1040
00:48:20,880 --> 00:48:23,160
Speaker 1: were dumb. That shouldn't have come up. That's on you, guys.

1041
00:48:23,560 --> 00:48:27,840
Speaker 1: Update a month later. Ultimately, I stuck to my resolve

1042
00:48:27,960 --> 00:48:30,799
Speaker 1: and broke things off. Many of you asked how on

1043
00:48:30,840 --> 00:48:32,680
Speaker 1: earth they could have gone all that time without knowing

1044
00:48:32,719 --> 00:48:35,759
Speaker 1: your age. Well, that's because she knew my age and

1045
00:48:35,920 --> 00:48:40,040
Speaker 1: initially lied to me. I would break it off because, Okay,

1046
00:48:40,040 --> 00:48:43,959
Speaker 1: so now two people lied, especially knowing that the girl

1047
00:48:44,000 --> 00:48:48,120
Speaker 1: that I was dating lied, that would definitely cause me

1048
00:48:48,160 --> 00:48:50,319
Speaker 1: to break it off. Oh for sure. No, And what

1049
00:48:50,360 --> 00:48:53,439
Speaker 1: does she say? She was thirty two? I think she said,

1050
00:48:53,520 --> 00:48:56,680
Speaker 1: yeah something. Yeah, she's like, he's.

1051
00:48:56,520 --> 00:48:58,560
Speaker 2: Like, what she graduated high school in twenty twenty?

1052
00:48:58,800 --> 00:49:01,480
Speaker 1: Wait, no, she's twenty two.

1053
00:49:02,480 --> 00:49:04,520
Speaker 2: Yeah all the way. Wait twenty time.

1054
00:49:04,520 --> 00:49:06,600
Speaker 1: I was twenty nineteen, so she probably would have been twenty.

1055
00:49:07,000 --> 00:49:09,360
Speaker 2: My gosh, okay too. What I'm trying to say is

1056
00:49:09,680 --> 00:49:13,080
Speaker 2: she was born in the early twenty twenties rather than

1057
00:49:13,080 --> 00:49:16,720
Speaker 2: the twenty tents. Very different times to be in high school.

1058
00:49:16,920 --> 00:49:17,400
Speaker 1: Did you see she?

1059
00:49:17,600 --> 00:49:21,480
Speaker 2: Oh my god, she said she was born she graduated

1060
00:49:21,560 --> 00:49:23,799
Speaker 2: a decade before. She is saying she did.

1061
00:49:23,880 --> 00:49:27,440
Speaker 1: Okay, yes, there you go, thank you. Anyway, apparently she

1062
00:49:27,480 --> 00:49:29,560
Speaker 1: and my sister had already had a conversation about my

1063
00:49:29,640 --> 00:49:32,759
Speaker 1: age and how it wouldn't be an issue for her. Oh,

1064
00:49:32,920 --> 00:49:35,640
Speaker 1: that's so much worse. It's so much worse that they

1065
00:49:35,680 --> 00:49:37,959
Speaker 1: all knew except for you, or they both knew except

1066
00:49:38,000 --> 00:49:38,239
Speaker 1: for you.

1067
00:49:38,560 --> 00:49:39,880
Speaker 3: My friend is kind of length.

1068
00:49:40,280 --> 00:49:41,880
Speaker 2: Really, and why are they your friends?

1069
00:49:41,920 --> 00:49:44,680
Speaker 3: She got well, she got married to like a fifty

1070
00:49:44,760 --> 00:49:48,080
Speaker 3: year old and she was twenty four. Yeah, they're divorced,

1071
00:49:48,080 --> 00:49:49,120
Speaker 3: now that makes sense.

1072
00:49:49,160 --> 00:49:50,760
Speaker 2: Really does she have half of his assets?

1073
00:49:51,080 --> 00:49:54,160
Speaker 1: I don't know. She don't ask my sister if I knew,

1074
00:49:54,280 --> 00:49:57,800
Speaker 1: And my sister said, and I quote, just play along, discusstang.

1075
00:49:58,120 --> 00:49:59,879
Speaker 1: When I found out about this, I just had enough

1076
00:49:59,880 --> 00:50:02,160
Speaker 1: for both of them and left them to their own devices.

1077
00:50:02,239 --> 00:50:02,799
Speaker 2: There you go.

1078
00:50:03,239 --> 00:50:04,880
Speaker 1: It's been about a month and my sister and I

1079
00:50:04,920 --> 00:50:07,360
Speaker 1: are simply not speaking. She tried to call me and

1080
00:50:07,400 --> 00:50:09,719
Speaker 1: tell me that this is for my own good, but

1081
00:50:09,760 --> 00:50:12,319
Speaker 1: I just let her get on with it. Not necessarily

1082
00:50:12,320 --> 00:50:14,479
Speaker 1: mad at either of them, but I'm just done with them.

1083
00:50:14,920 --> 00:50:17,080
Speaker 1: The feelings I felt for the woman were more or

1084
00:50:17,120 --> 00:50:19,960
Speaker 1: less manufactured because she put on a persona which she

1085
00:50:20,040 --> 00:50:24,120
Speaker 1: knew I would be attracted to. Damn, this is really

1086
00:50:24,360 --> 00:50:27,680
Speaker 1: tough to find out. Ill. Although it had been sometime,

1087
00:50:27,800 --> 00:50:31,000
Speaker 1: I'm still exhausted by the whole situation, so I would

1088
00:50:31,080 --> 00:50:34,319
Speaker 1: prefer to keep my distance from the two of them. Nevertheless,

1089
00:50:34,520 --> 00:50:37,040
Speaker 1: thank you so much those who replied and checked up

1090
00:50:37,040 --> 00:50:38,920
Speaker 1: on me and meant a lot. For now, I'll just

1091
00:50:39,000 --> 00:50:41,040
Speaker 1: keep going on my own. But these things happen.

1092
00:50:41,640 --> 00:50:44,520
Speaker 2: Dude, that's such a red flash, I.

1093
00:50:44,520 --> 00:50:48,880
Speaker 1: Know on both of these people's parts, Like, really, ichy

1094
00:50:48,960 --> 00:50:49,560
Speaker 1: of your sister.

1095
00:50:50,120 --> 00:50:52,560
Speaker 2: Ope, he's gotta be hot though, or have some money.

1096
00:50:52,560 --> 00:50:54,840
Speaker 2: He's probably got it all. If someone was that old,

1097
00:50:55,360 --> 00:50:57,799
Speaker 2: hot and got it out together, on might do some lying.

1098
00:50:58,560 --> 00:51:00,279
Speaker 2: You know how many times I'll be whatever did you

1099
00:51:00,280 --> 00:51:02,200
Speaker 2: want me to be? Yeah? I have gone up to

1100
00:51:02,280 --> 00:51:05,440
Speaker 2: older women and been like I'm not twenty or like

1101
00:51:05,480 --> 00:51:09,759
Speaker 2: I'm not twenty three, I'm twenty seven. Why because I

1102
00:51:09,800 --> 00:51:11,239
Speaker 2: wanted to go on a date with them?

1103
00:51:11,719 --> 00:51:12,360
Speaker 1: Did it work?

1104
00:51:12,680 --> 00:51:15,279
Speaker 2: Almost once? I was this close to going on a

1105
00:51:15,320 --> 00:51:18,080
Speaker 2: date with someone that was like thirty three, this close?

1106
00:51:18,280 --> 00:51:21,320
Speaker 1: WHOA all right, but there's a little bit left. Reddit

1107
00:51:21,440 --> 00:51:25,080
Speaker 1: and Twitter did prove that there were some decent people

1108
00:51:25,120 --> 00:51:28,480
Speaker 1: out there, not necessarily saying the woman in question isn't decent.

1109
00:51:28,600 --> 00:51:32,239
Speaker 1: I just questioned her approach to this particular situation. Oh

1110
00:51:32,280 --> 00:51:34,680
Speaker 1: and to those saying a male widow is a widower.

1111
00:51:35,200 --> 00:51:38,040
Speaker 1: I'm very much aware of that, but after years of

1112
00:51:38,080 --> 00:51:41,240
Speaker 1: saying it and having foreign relatives not knowing the difference

1113
00:51:41,239 --> 00:51:44,279
Speaker 1: between the two, I stopped caring as they both meant

1114
00:51:44,280 --> 00:51:47,160
Speaker 1: the exact same thing, a person who has lost their

1115
00:51:47,200 --> 00:51:51,359
Speaker 1: spouse and edit. Oh my goodness, I'm completely overwhelmed by

1116
00:51:51,360 --> 00:51:57,160
Speaker 1: the responses. La la, la la. But anyway, that's the

1117
00:51:57,320 --> 00:52:04,359
Speaker 1: end of that story, not the Okay, Yeah, I think

1118
00:52:04,400 --> 00:52:05,880
Speaker 1: op you made the right decision.

1119
00:52:06,680 --> 00:52:09,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, that they were putting in a weird, sticky situation,

1120
00:52:10,440 --> 00:52:14,080
Speaker 3: and I'm glad you you had the maturity and the

1121
00:52:14,120 --> 00:52:16,520
Speaker 3: big brain energy to get out of it.

1122
00:52:16,719 --> 00:52:19,640
Speaker 2: Me too, as you should. Guys, we got some comments

1123
00:52:19,640 --> 00:52:22,360
Speaker 2: that was the wildest story I've read today, Holy count.

1124
00:52:22,880 --> 00:52:25,920
Speaker 1: But we got some comments from the video my patient

1125
00:52:26,120 --> 00:52:32,319
Speaker 1: confessed an affair with my mother. Ooh. This TLDR comes

1126
00:52:32,320 --> 00:52:35,360
Speaker 1: from story one. Opie works at a senior care facility

1127
00:52:35,400 --> 00:52:37,960
Speaker 1: and was recently moved to a new area where he

1128
00:52:38,040 --> 00:52:40,839
Speaker 1: met a sweet older man named John. While helping him

1129
00:52:40,840 --> 00:52:43,239
Speaker 1: get ready for bed one night, OPI noticed a pin

1130
00:52:43,320 --> 00:52:46,720
Speaker 1: board full of family photos. One picture made him stop

1131
00:52:46,760 --> 00:52:49,080
Speaker 1: in his tracks. It was a photo of his own

1132
00:52:49,160 --> 00:52:53,279
Speaker 1: mom looking happy and very close with John, taken back

1133
00:52:53,280 --> 00:52:56,279
Speaker 1: when Opi was just a little kid. The thing is,

1134
00:52:56,400 --> 00:52:59,040
Speaker 1: OPI just moved across the country months ago, and his

1135
00:52:59,120 --> 00:53:01,440
Speaker 1: mom has lived on the He's coased her whole life.

1136
00:53:01,680 --> 00:53:04,439
Speaker 1: John says, he's never even left the state. So how

1137
00:53:04,440 --> 00:53:07,960
Speaker 1: did these two end up in a photo together looking

1138
00:53:08,120 --> 00:53:11,600
Speaker 1: that cozy? Opie's parents are about to celebrate a huge

1139
00:53:11,600 --> 00:53:14,400
Speaker 1: marriage milestone and are known in the community for having

1140
00:53:14,600 --> 00:53:18,440
Speaker 1: the perfect relationship. And if you're curious to know the

1141
00:53:18,480 --> 00:53:20,960
Speaker 1: full story, you can go watch the full video. But

1142
00:53:21,040 --> 00:53:21,600
Speaker 1: we got some.

1143
00:53:21,520 --> 00:53:25,880
Speaker 2: Comments, all right, here we go. Flad and A says

1144
00:53:26,719 --> 00:53:30,600
Speaker 2: time to expose the mother and free the father of

1145
00:53:30,680 --> 00:53:34,080
Speaker 2: a life of lies. In fact, it would be selfish

1146
00:53:34,160 --> 00:53:36,839
Speaker 2: to hide this from him, and says agreed. They said

1147
00:53:36,880 --> 00:53:39,359
Speaker 2: it's selfish to tell, which it is in a way.

1148
00:53:39,640 --> 00:53:44,600
Speaker 2: Excuse me, Yeah, we're still reading when they're watching a

1149
00:53:44,719 --> 00:53:49,600
Speaker 2: video on your Phone's rude. Apologize to everyone in this room.

1150
00:53:50,080 --> 00:53:52,360
Speaker 1: I'm just so sorry.

1151
00:53:52,040 --> 00:53:57,200
Speaker 2: Mean it, say it with sincereness. Anyways, Ange was saying something, Yeah, Ange,

1152
00:53:57,719 --> 00:53:59,799
Speaker 2: they said it's selfish to tell, which in a way

1153
00:53:59,800 --> 00:54:03,080
Speaker 2: it is, because some would say she wants to just

1154
00:54:03,200 --> 00:54:06,000
Speaker 2: unburden herself with a secret. But it's more selfish not

1155
00:54:06,040 --> 00:54:08,719
Speaker 2: to tell because it isn't and never should have been

1156
00:54:08,920 --> 00:54:11,560
Speaker 2: her secret to keep. The dad needs to know so

1157
00:54:11,600 --> 00:54:13,520
Speaker 2: he can make his own decision with all the facts

1158
00:54:13,760 --> 00:54:14,799
Speaker 2: laid out.

1159
00:54:15,520 --> 00:54:16,200
Speaker 1: I agree.

1160
00:54:16,560 --> 00:54:20,120
Speaker 2: Garden of the Eden says, there wouldn't be another wedding

1161
00:54:20,120 --> 00:54:22,840
Speaker 2: anniversary with me. I'm telling daddy erthing.

1162
00:54:23,640 --> 00:54:24,440
Speaker 1: Dad's gotta know.

1163
00:54:25,320 --> 00:54:28,320
Speaker 2: Michelle says the man in retirement home story, you don't

1164
00:54:28,360 --> 00:54:31,000
Speaker 2: know the whole story. Maybe mom confessed through their fears

1165
00:54:31,080 --> 00:54:33,960
Speaker 2: years ago to her husband and they already worked through

1166
00:54:33,960 --> 00:54:36,240
Speaker 2: it and decided it was their business. You should still

1167
00:54:36,280 --> 00:54:40,440
Speaker 2: say something. Melina Orson says, illegally, Opie needs to be careful.

1168
00:54:40,520 --> 00:54:42,680
Speaker 2: It might be a hip of violation to talk to

1169
00:54:42,719 --> 00:54:44,320
Speaker 2: his mother about Indiana.

1170
00:54:44,360 --> 00:54:47,000
Speaker 1: Steve, how would that be a hip of violation? I

1171
00:54:47,080 --> 00:54:49,520
Speaker 1: knew a unicycle, Steve once. I don't think people know

1172
00:54:49,600 --> 00:54:52,160
Speaker 1: what hip of violations are, and maybe I'm gonna find

1173
00:54:52,200 --> 00:54:53,880
Speaker 1: out that I don't know what a hip of violations are.

1174
00:54:53,960 --> 00:54:56,480
Speaker 1: Sounds like you don't, but usually that has to do

1175
00:54:56,560 --> 00:55:00,080
Speaker 1: with medical information. Yeah, not you being in like the

1176
00:55:00,120 --> 00:55:02,640
Speaker 1: guy you take care of his room and seeing a

1177
00:55:02,680 --> 00:55:06,439
Speaker 1: picture that implicates your mom in a like affair. That's

1178
00:55:06,480 --> 00:55:07,040
Speaker 1: not hip.

1179
00:55:06,960 --> 00:55:11,480
Speaker 2: Facts, but everyone, that's the end of this freaking episode.

1180
00:55:11,520 --> 00:55:13,719
Speaker 2: I hope you guys had fun. I had fun. I

1181
00:55:13,800 --> 00:55:14,120
Speaker 2: love you.

1182
00:55:14,440 --> 00:55:19,680
Speaker 1: What just happened? See that's what he does. Confuse me. Appropriate,

1183
00:55:19,840 --> 00:55:22,120
Speaker 1: But if you love us, make sure to subscribe.

1184
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Speaker 3: We love you and see you tomorrow.