1 00:00:02,440 --> 00:00:05,520 Speaker 1: Hey, everybody, it's Bill Courtney and Sophia with an army 2 00:00:05,519 --> 00:00:07,800 Speaker 1: of normal folks, and we continue now a part two 3 00:00:07,840 --> 00:00:11,760 Speaker 1: of our conversations with Jamie Hurd. Sophia ring the bell? 4 00:00:12,680 --> 00:00:18,040 Speaker 1: Why are you guys so weak? Sophia? Do you want 5 00:00:18,040 --> 00:00:19,479 Speaker 1: to ring the bell again? Show you dad what you 6 00:00:19,480 --> 00:00:23,599 Speaker 1: can do all the way? Yeah, all right, now we'll 7 00:00:23,600 --> 00:00:25,800 Speaker 1: be right back with you. But Sophia is going to 8 00:00:25,840 --> 00:00:28,240 Speaker 1: tell you. 9 00:00:27,360 --> 00:00:30,520 Speaker 2: Right after these brief messages from our generous. 10 00:00:30,120 --> 00:00:43,919 Speaker 1: Sponsors, good job, Sophia. Well wow, I mean tell us 11 00:00:43,920 --> 00:00:46,080 Speaker 1: a lot. You're on the phone with your dad and 12 00:00:46,159 --> 00:00:50,960 Speaker 1: he goes and kills himself, and then you have this happy, 13 00:00:51,159 --> 00:00:56,160 Speaker 1: perfect life and your kid chokes on some noodles dies 14 00:00:57,440 --> 00:01:02,560 Speaker 1: And I've read I don't want to screw the words up, 15 00:01:02,600 --> 00:01:06,560 Speaker 1: but basically that's kind of You're in your thirties and 16 00:01:06,600 --> 00:01:09,160 Speaker 1: you have these people around you, and although you have 17 00:01:09,280 --> 00:01:13,080 Speaker 1: your faith and everything, you're still stinging and hurting, and 18 00:01:13,160 --> 00:01:15,759 Speaker 1: you feel so much love and support by your community 19 00:01:18,040 --> 00:01:26,880 Speaker 1: and your faith plus your husband's steadfastness in your marriage 20 00:01:27,080 --> 00:01:30,760 Speaker 1: and your community is really what helped you. I'm going 21 00:01:30,840 --> 00:01:33,880 Speaker 1: to my words. Cope's that right? 22 00:01:34,400 --> 00:01:35,440 Speaker 3: Yeah? Definitely? 23 00:01:37,319 --> 00:01:42,520 Speaker 1: And so life continues, what does life look like after. 24 00:01:43,240 --> 00:01:47,640 Speaker 3: We have a really close group of friends, and so 25 00:01:47,920 --> 00:01:51,600 Speaker 3: as we were all having kids. One of my best friends, 26 00:01:51,800 --> 00:01:54,720 Speaker 3: you know that the parents of Jack, they found out 27 00:01:54,760 --> 00:01:57,280 Speaker 3: they could not have biological children, and so they went 28 00:01:57,280 --> 00:01:59,680 Speaker 3: through the adoption process. So we walked through that with them. 29 00:02:00,080 --> 00:02:03,240 Speaker 3: They adopt Jack. We have some friends have late term 30 00:02:03,240 --> 00:02:07,760 Speaker 3: miscarriages that we walked through before the summer before William died, 31 00:02:08,160 --> 00:02:10,680 Speaker 3: one of our best friends had just turned thirty and 32 00:02:10,800 --> 00:02:13,520 Speaker 3: was diagnosed with breast cancer. Had two young kids, same age, 33 00:02:13,560 --> 00:02:17,920 Speaker 3: Madeline and William. You know, it's just tragic. And so 34 00:02:18,080 --> 00:02:21,080 Speaker 3: we had had these things going on, these these deep 35 00:02:21,160 --> 00:02:24,440 Speaker 3: valleys that we didn't know what to do, and so 36 00:02:24,480 --> 00:02:27,280 Speaker 3: we just kept showing up for each other. And so 37 00:02:27,360 --> 00:02:30,200 Speaker 3: when I got home from Vanderbilt that day, from the 38 00:02:30,240 --> 00:02:34,560 Speaker 3: hospital without William, I got to my back porch and 39 00:02:34,600 --> 00:02:36,840 Speaker 3: there was this basket, and that's what we had been 40 00:02:36,880 --> 00:02:39,200 Speaker 3: doing for our friends that were walking through different things. 41 00:02:39,600 --> 00:02:42,240 Speaker 3: There was a bunch of these notes and a bunch 42 00:02:42,280 --> 00:02:45,200 Speaker 3: of just comfort items and stuff. And I was like, Okay, 43 00:02:45,280 --> 00:02:49,920 Speaker 3: now it's my turn. And I had notes to read. Yes, yeah, 44 00:02:50,120 --> 00:02:53,400 Speaker 3: And it meant a lot. I had people around me, 45 00:02:53,520 --> 00:02:56,160 Speaker 3: not even just my close friends, but I had we 46 00:02:56,240 --> 00:02:59,560 Speaker 3: had community around us that still love on us. I mean, 47 00:02:59,560 --> 00:03:03,160 Speaker 3: it'll be years and I still get text about William. 48 00:03:03,200 --> 00:03:05,920 Speaker 3: I still get a card from a friend every year 49 00:03:06,080 --> 00:03:10,360 Speaker 3: for his birthday. And I know what is simple. I'm 50 00:03:10,400 --> 00:03:15,080 Speaker 3: thinking of you, I see you. I know what a 51 00:03:15,200 --> 00:03:19,160 Speaker 3: simple act of kindness, feeling seen can do for someone. 52 00:03:19,680 --> 00:03:22,520 Speaker 3: And so as we're walking through these deep valleys, then 53 00:03:22,520 --> 00:03:27,560 Speaker 3: we walk through child loss. Six months later, after William died, 54 00:03:28,080 --> 00:03:31,200 Speaker 3: another boy in our community, he was eight years old, Hayes. 55 00:03:31,919 --> 00:03:34,920 Speaker 3: He died in a car crash. I didn't know that family, 56 00:03:35,080 --> 00:03:38,760 Speaker 3: but someone, a mutual friend, connected me. And I had 57 00:03:38,800 --> 00:03:41,240 Speaker 3: read this book Through the Eyes of a Lion. Have 58 00:03:41,280 --> 00:03:43,920 Speaker 3: you ever heard of it? Lee by Lusco. I'll send 59 00:03:43,920 --> 00:03:44,240 Speaker 3: it to you. 60 00:03:45,000 --> 00:03:46,240 Speaker 1: I'll read it so good. 61 00:03:46,720 --> 00:03:50,560 Speaker 3: And so I had read this book and I was like, okay, 62 00:03:50,560 --> 00:03:53,440 Speaker 3: I send Jenny. Rebecca is the mom's name, and so 63 00:03:53,520 --> 00:03:54,800 Speaker 3: I just send her a note in the mail and 64 00:03:54,840 --> 00:03:57,080 Speaker 3: send her that book. And I said, I'm only six 65 00:03:57,160 --> 00:04:00,560 Speaker 3: months ahead of you. This is really hard, but you 66 00:04:00,640 --> 00:04:02,960 Speaker 3: are going to be okay. And I'm here if you 67 00:04:03,000 --> 00:04:07,000 Speaker 3: need anything, And so she gets I leave my phone 68 00:04:07,080 --> 00:04:10,080 Speaker 3: number she calls me just the way the Lord used. 69 00:04:10,680 --> 00:04:14,840 Speaker 3: Having someone that had experienced the loss of a child 70 00:04:15,280 --> 00:04:18,720 Speaker 3: as as much community as I had. There is something too, 71 00:04:19,040 --> 00:04:23,120 Speaker 3: in a in a weight, in someone's words that knows 72 00:04:23,240 --> 00:04:25,160 Speaker 3: exactly what you're going through. And I think the enemy 73 00:04:25,160 --> 00:04:27,680 Speaker 3: would love for you to feel alone and that no 74 00:04:27,680 --> 00:04:31,039 Speaker 3: one else gets it. And so that's also part of 75 00:04:31,360 --> 00:04:34,599 Speaker 3: what we're doing, is that's not true. I mean, people 76 00:04:34,600 --> 00:04:40,359 Speaker 3: out there have experienced similar things and you're not alone. Yes, 77 00:04:40,520 --> 00:04:44,440 Speaker 3: and survived, and so those next few years after that, 78 00:04:44,520 --> 00:04:47,080 Speaker 3: I'm still walking through grief. I mean, as much hope 79 00:04:47,120 --> 00:04:50,000 Speaker 3: and peace as I had. There's grief there. That's that 80 00:04:50,040 --> 00:04:52,760 Speaker 3: doesn't take away the deep valleys. 81 00:04:52,880 --> 00:04:55,039 Speaker 1: I wanted to ask you about that before we go. 82 00:04:56,560 --> 00:04:59,640 Speaker 1: We're about to we're about to leap into what the 83 00:04:59,720 --> 00:05:02,960 Speaker 1: game and what you are now, not what you are now, 84 00:05:03,000 --> 00:05:06,800 Speaker 1: what you do now. Really, poor George words, I apologize. 85 00:05:07,080 --> 00:05:07,919 Speaker 3: I knew what you meant. 86 00:05:08,240 --> 00:05:10,320 Speaker 1: Yeah, but the problem is Alex won't edit it out 87 00:05:10,320 --> 00:05:12,839 Speaker 1: because they said paint in my butt. But anyway, you 88 00:05:12,920 --> 00:05:26,000 Speaker 1: know it. So here's the deal. Emotions, grief, sadness, loss, fear. 89 00:05:30,120 --> 00:05:32,880 Speaker 1: I don't know if you know this, but when you 90 00:05:33,000 --> 00:05:38,760 Speaker 1: described what happened to William. You talked about your nanny 91 00:05:38,760 --> 00:05:42,039 Speaker 1: and the steps that she went through and oh my gosh, 92 00:05:42,120 --> 00:05:47,520 Speaker 1: bless her heart, the guilt she must bear. But you 93 00:05:47,680 --> 00:05:52,720 Speaker 1: said it was some chicken noddle soup that I bought 94 00:05:52,720 --> 00:05:57,359 Speaker 1: a Costco, and then you moved on. You feelt guilt 95 00:05:57,400 --> 00:05:59,279 Speaker 1: about buying that chicken little soup, didn't you. 96 00:06:00,120 --> 00:06:04,719 Speaker 3: I don't feel guilt, but I when I walk into Costco, 97 00:06:05,080 --> 00:06:10,520 Speaker 3: there's always a point where I hate my life and 98 00:06:10,560 --> 00:06:13,680 Speaker 3: I want to scream, and like there's there is an 99 00:06:13,680 --> 00:06:16,039 Speaker 3: association there with that Costco. 100 00:06:16,279 --> 00:06:16,880 Speaker 1: You said that. 101 00:06:17,520 --> 00:06:19,600 Speaker 3: I know I saw it. 102 00:06:19,960 --> 00:06:22,520 Speaker 1: You said it. It was not how you said it, 103 00:06:22,560 --> 00:06:25,560 Speaker 1: but your facial expressions, and it was when you crossed 104 00:06:25,560 --> 00:06:31,680 Speaker 1: your arms it was which meant you were you were defending. 105 00:06:32,839 --> 00:06:33,039 Speaker 3: You know. 106 00:06:34,120 --> 00:06:37,160 Speaker 1: The reason I'm bringing all of this up is there 107 00:06:37,160 --> 00:06:41,840 Speaker 1: are people that listen to this show that maybe aren't Christians, 108 00:06:42,680 --> 00:06:47,960 Speaker 1: maybe are on the fence, maybe have spirituality. There's so 109 00:06:48,120 --> 00:06:53,159 Speaker 1: many levels of faith and not faith. And you know, 110 00:06:53,640 --> 00:06:56,760 Speaker 1: as it pertains to an army normal folks and people 111 00:06:56,800 --> 00:07:00,240 Speaker 1: employing their discipline and passion and air needs in the world, 112 00:07:00,880 --> 00:07:03,760 Speaker 1: you know, as it pertains to that I don't care 113 00:07:03,800 --> 00:07:05,760 Speaker 1: if you have faith or not. I can celebrate your 114 00:07:05,800 --> 00:07:09,240 Speaker 1: good work right absolutely, so, there are people listen to 115 00:07:09,279 --> 00:07:14,080 Speaker 1: us that are Jewish and agnostic and everything else. As 116 00:07:14,160 --> 00:07:20,239 Speaker 1: deep as you are in your faith, and as profoundly 117 00:07:20,360 --> 00:07:27,440 Speaker 1: as you have demonstrated our prayer surrender and that that 118 00:07:27,680 --> 00:07:33,640 Speaker 1: faith in God's will has meant to you, it's really 119 00:07:33,680 --> 00:07:36,239 Speaker 1: important to me that people listen to us that don't 120 00:07:36,280 --> 00:07:40,040 Speaker 1: really understand or subscribe, or haven't reached that place in 121 00:07:40,080 --> 00:07:46,760 Speaker 1: their life. Understand. None of that replaces grief and sadness 122 00:07:46,800 --> 00:07:53,080 Speaker 1: and hurt and guilt and defensiveness and trauma and all 123 00:07:53,120 --> 00:07:57,840 Speaker 1: of it. That don't think that as a Christian you're 124 00:07:57,920 --> 00:08:01,440 Speaker 1: saying all of this faith and and grace and belief 125 00:08:01,480 --> 00:08:04,000 Speaker 1: and free will just makes everything perfect. It does not. 126 00:08:05,480 --> 00:08:10,920 Speaker 1: It does not. We are still human and it is 127 00:08:10,960 --> 00:08:14,600 Speaker 1: not a magic pill. Not just because it's I don't 128 00:08:14,600 --> 00:08:16,440 Speaker 1: want to put words in your mouth, but I think 129 00:08:16,520 --> 00:08:21,360 Speaker 1: it's important before we go forward, because of what you're 130 00:08:21,360 --> 00:08:24,800 Speaker 1: about to say gives you a deep understanding that people 131 00:08:24,840 --> 00:08:29,800 Speaker 1: you now serve but speak to that that that please. 132 00:08:30,080 --> 00:08:34,440 Speaker 1: If you're if you're not where, if you're not where 133 00:08:34,559 --> 00:08:39,400 Speaker 1: Jamie and Daniel are in their faith. Don't think, oh well, 134 00:08:40,240 --> 00:08:43,520 Speaker 1: they're brainwashing and thinking there's no problems because of their 135 00:08:43,640 --> 00:08:47,000 Speaker 1: no no, no, no no. You're missing the human side 136 00:08:47,040 --> 00:08:47,520 Speaker 1: of this thing. 137 00:08:47,800 --> 00:08:50,840 Speaker 3: And I think the enemy would love for that to 138 00:08:50,960 --> 00:08:55,240 Speaker 3: be truth for something. Just kind of people think that, 139 00:08:56,240 --> 00:08:58,439 Speaker 3: And I want to want to just speak. 140 00:08:58,160 --> 00:09:02,000 Speaker 1: To it a little for folks who don't share your 141 00:09:02,040 --> 00:09:02,800 Speaker 1: depth of faith. 142 00:09:02,960 --> 00:09:04,920 Speaker 3: And a lot of people say to me, like, man, 143 00:09:05,000 --> 00:09:07,120 Speaker 3: I could never have that faith or I would could 144 00:09:07,120 --> 00:09:11,439 Speaker 3: never be that strong. And like we said before, it 145 00:09:11,480 --> 00:09:15,640 Speaker 3: is a true surrender. It's a choice I'm making to surrender. 146 00:09:16,160 --> 00:09:19,480 Speaker 3: But it's no strength of mine. It is it is 147 00:09:19,520 --> 00:09:24,440 Speaker 3: literally me acknowledging my weakness in I can't get through 148 00:09:24,480 --> 00:09:30,720 Speaker 3: this day holding this level of grief. It is terrible. 149 00:09:31,160 --> 00:09:32,600 Speaker 1: It is is a terrible to day. 150 00:09:33,840 --> 00:09:38,559 Speaker 3: No, not every day. There are times still in December, 151 00:09:39,520 --> 00:09:43,360 Speaker 3: I have a hard time over the anniversary. And but 152 00:09:43,880 --> 00:09:45,840 Speaker 3: in Costco, in Costco, I mean. 153 00:09:46,360 --> 00:09:49,040 Speaker 1: Go to Sam's going to Costo, Swear to goodness, I'd 154 00:09:49,080 --> 00:09:50,160 Speaker 1: never go in another Costco. 155 00:09:50,800 --> 00:09:54,440 Speaker 3: It's a growing experience. I just you know, but I 156 00:09:54,480 --> 00:09:57,280 Speaker 3: mean when that happened, you know, I think it's a 157 00:09:57,280 --> 00:10:00,240 Speaker 3: good I agree, it's a great point to stop up 158 00:10:00,280 --> 00:10:03,280 Speaker 3: and make sure that people are aware that your faith 159 00:10:03,400 --> 00:10:07,599 Speaker 3: is not take away that sadness, that grief. 160 00:10:07,760 --> 00:10:10,200 Speaker 1: An anecdote for any of those human emotions. 161 00:10:10,559 --> 00:10:14,080 Speaker 3: I was really struggling. I mean, I you know, I 162 00:10:14,120 --> 00:10:16,600 Speaker 3: was a teacher. So this was December. So I took 163 00:10:16,640 --> 00:10:19,120 Speaker 3: that whole next semester off and didn't go back to 164 00:10:19,160 --> 00:10:22,120 Speaker 3: work till August, which was good because I don't think 165 00:10:22,160 --> 00:10:25,320 Speaker 3: I could have. But also it was terrible that I 166 00:10:25,360 --> 00:10:29,240 Speaker 3: was at home. And so it gets middle of January 167 00:10:29,840 --> 00:10:33,400 Speaker 3: and I go to Daniel and I remember Maddelin. I 168 00:10:33,440 --> 00:10:35,960 Speaker 3: was laying in bed and Madeline came up to my bedside. 169 00:10:36,000 --> 00:10:40,120 Speaker 3: She's four, and she said, Mom, She said, at least 170 00:10:40,160 --> 00:10:42,920 Speaker 3: I didn't die. I'm still here. And I was like, 171 00:10:44,280 --> 00:10:48,760 Speaker 3: I need to get my stuff to get yeah, And 172 00:10:48,800 --> 00:10:51,480 Speaker 3: I went to Daniel and I said, I need to 173 00:10:51,480 --> 00:10:54,240 Speaker 3: get out of here, like I'm really struggling. I can't 174 00:10:54,600 --> 00:10:59,200 Speaker 3: parent in this grief. I need I need to remove 175 00:10:59,280 --> 00:11:05,000 Speaker 3: myself from situation. And so I ask a friend and 176 00:11:05,080 --> 00:11:07,520 Speaker 3: I said, I need some place to go that I 177 00:11:07,559 --> 00:11:10,520 Speaker 3: can kind of get away. And so luckily she remember, 178 00:11:10,640 --> 00:11:16,040 Speaker 3: she recommended a fabulous resort in Arizona that is amazing. 179 00:11:16,120 --> 00:11:19,040 Speaker 3: I think I want to go back for it's so expensive, 180 00:11:19,720 --> 00:11:21,600 Speaker 3: but I want to go back for the ten year 181 00:11:21,760 --> 00:11:23,520 Speaker 3: I just I feel like I actually think I might 182 00:11:23,559 --> 00:11:26,079 Speaker 3: write them and be like, hey, this was my experience 183 00:11:26,120 --> 00:11:28,480 Speaker 3: ten years ago, and I need to go back. But 184 00:11:28,960 --> 00:11:33,960 Speaker 3: in all seriousness, I flew out to Arizona and I 185 00:11:34,040 --> 00:11:37,080 Speaker 3: go to this resort and it was the first time 186 00:11:38,000 --> 00:11:39,959 Speaker 3: that I feel like I could take a deep breath. 187 00:11:40,720 --> 00:11:44,920 Speaker 3: No one around me knew me, and I could just 188 00:11:46,480 --> 00:11:52,280 Speaker 3: sit in that grief and just be and it was 189 00:11:52,679 --> 00:11:56,520 Speaker 3: very healing for me. I cried on the plane coming home, 190 00:11:56,559 --> 00:11:59,520 Speaker 3: like I didn't want to come home to the reality 191 00:11:59,720 --> 00:12:05,160 Speaker 3: of what was my life. It was really hard to 192 00:12:05,320 --> 00:12:08,680 Speaker 3: manage my grief, to be there for my four year old, 193 00:12:09,400 --> 00:12:12,800 Speaker 3: to be a wife, to do to cook dinner luckily 194 00:12:12,840 --> 00:12:16,160 Speaker 3: with meals coming for several months, but to do all 195 00:12:16,200 --> 00:12:19,320 Speaker 3: the stuff that you had. I mean, when you experience 196 00:12:19,400 --> 00:12:22,400 Speaker 3: grief like that, your world doesn't stop. You want it to, 197 00:12:23,160 --> 00:12:25,360 Speaker 3: but it goes on and you have all of those 198 00:12:25,400 --> 00:12:28,640 Speaker 3: especially with young kids. But I also was thankful for 199 00:12:28,720 --> 00:12:32,400 Speaker 3: Madeline because I knew our house could be completely empty 200 00:12:32,440 --> 00:12:35,840 Speaker 3: without her, so I was grateful that she was there. 201 00:12:35,920 --> 00:12:42,560 Speaker 3: It just it. Parenting those that next year was really hard, which. 202 00:12:42,360 --> 00:12:46,160 Speaker 1: Is why I think eighty percent of marriages that suffer 203 00:12:46,200 --> 00:12:48,720 Speaker 1: the loss of a child under the age of ten 204 00:12:49,080 --> 00:12:51,000 Speaker 1: and a divorce because. 205 00:12:52,160 --> 00:12:56,440 Speaker 3: Back and women grieve so differently. That's just a fact. 206 00:12:56,520 --> 00:12:58,600 Speaker 1: But the point is just because you have faith doesn't 207 00:12:58,640 --> 00:13:00,000 Speaker 1: mean all. 208 00:13:00,920 --> 00:13:06,240 Speaker 3: Right, no, we still I immediately I wouldn't say drug 209 00:13:06,400 --> 00:13:09,000 Speaker 3: Daniel into counseling. He went willingly. But the second that 210 00:13:09,080 --> 00:13:10,680 Speaker 3: I was like, you don't have to come, He's like, okay, 211 00:13:10,720 --> 00:13:15,760 Speaker 3: I'm out. But we went to counseling and that was 212 00:13:16,280 --> 00:13:20,079 Speaker 3: really good and something that I, you know, would always recommend. 213 00:13:20,559 --> 00:13:25,120 Speaker 3: But yeah, it it's still every December. I go away. 214 00:13:25,720 --> 00:13:28,280 Speaker 3: Sometimes I go by myself. If Daniel's super busy at work, 215 00:13:28,320 --> 00:13:30,439 Speaker 3: I go by myself. The past couple of years he's 216 00:13:30,480 --> 00:13:34,760 Speaker 3: gone with me, which has been really sweet. I need 217 00:13:34,880 --> 00:13:38,240 Speaker 3: a time where I'm not taking care of anyone else 218 00:13:38,440 --> 00:13:42,880 Speaker 3: and I can sit in that grief. I rewatch sometimes 219 00:13:42,960 --> 00:13:45,800 Speaker 3: like the memorial video, or sometimes I watch the actual 220 00:13:46,120 --> 00:13:50,080 Speaker 3: memorial service. I look at pictures, I look at video, 221 00:13:50,240 --> 00:13:53,839 Speaker 3: and I cry and I take myself back there and 222 00:13:54,000 --> 00:13:59,600 Speaker 3: I get back to a place of total dependence. Lord, 223 00:13:59,720 --> 00:14:03,360 Speaker 3: I could not go on about my life without my 224 00:14:03,520 --> 00:14:05,439 Speaker 3: child here if it were not for you. 225 00:14:07,320 --> 00:14:12,320 Speaker 1: That is what people need to understand, is that again 226 00:14:13,440 --> 00:14:16,560 Speaker 1: you discuss it, You've talked freely about it with me, 227 00:14:16,720 --> 00:14:20,920 Speaker 1: but it does not your faith, none of it, prayer, 228 00:14:21,120 --> 00:14:24,760 Speaker 1: none of it makes it any less human. 229 00:14:24,960 --> 00:14:26,920 Speaker 3: And this is ten years later. I mean I'm ten 230 00:14:26,960 --> 00:14:30,280 Speaker 3: years out now. I will say I have a lot 231 00:14:30,880 --> 00:14:34,960 Speaker 3: less days that I struggle Tom Hills all one, you know, 232 00:14:35,840 --> 00:14:40,080 Speaker 3: so slowly still, Yeah, but it's still there and I'm 233 00:14:40,120 --> 00:14:42,960 Speaker 3: thankful for that. Really it comes December. There's a part 234 00:14:42,960 --> 00:14:47,720 Speaker 3: of me that if I didn't miss him so much 235 00:14:47,800 --> 00:14:53,240 Speaker 3: and still struggle on that grief, his life wouldn't have 236 00:14:54,120 --> 00:14:57,440 Speaker 3: been that valuable to miss. You know. That was something 237 00:14:57,440 --> 00:15:00,360 Speaker 3: our counselor said early on, is like, this is so 238 00:15:00,560 --> 00:15:03,640 Speaker 3: hard because how much you loved him, and that will 239 00:15:03,680 --> 00:15:06,880 Speaker 3: always be the case. So I want I want that 240 00:15:06,920 --> 00:15:09,280 Speaker 3: to be hard. Sometimes I don't want it to ever 241 00:15:10,400 --> 00:15:14,120 Speaker 3: get where. The anniversary passing is like, I'm fine, I 242 00:15:14,160 --> 00:15:17,160 Speaker 3: don't remember that, you know, so I'm. 243 00:15:17,240 --> 00:15:38,480 Speaker 1: Right, We'll be right back. Okay, the table is now, 244 00:15:38,560 --> 00:15:44,720 Speaker 1: so everybody understands how you grew up. The dad William, 245 00:15:45,080 --> 00:15:53,520 Speaker 1: the organ donation, grief, the prayer, and your really astute 246 00:15:53,680 --> 00:15:57,520 Speaker 1: understanding of the importance of community around all of this. 247 00:15:58,600 --> 00:16:01,520 Speaker 1: And so one day you tell Daniel, I don't think 248 00:16:01,560 --> 00:16:05,000 Speaker 1: I want to teach anymore. Take us through that. Yeah. 249 00:16:05,080 --> 00:16:08,280 Speaker 3: We that kind of group of friends that Jamie that 250 00:16:08,320 --> 00:16:13,000 Speaker 3: struggled with infertility, Heather diagnosed with early breast cancer, Jenny, 251 00:16:13,000 --> 00:16:16,360 Speaker 3: Rebecca who also lost a child. Jamie, Heather and I 252 00:16:16,400 --> 00:16:18,920 Speaker 3: go to the same church, and so we're walking through 253 00:16:20,480 --> 00:16:20,920 Speaker 3: it was an. 254 00:16:21,120 --> 00:16:23,560 Speaker 1: Answer and two children lost. It's just a lot. 255 00:16:23,760 --> 00:16:25,520 Speaker 3: Oh, it's a lot. Oh it's yeah. 256 00:16:25,560 --> 00:16:27,640 Speaker 1: And a father commit suicide. I mean it really is. 257 00:16:27,640 --> 00:16:28,240 Speaker 1: It's just a lot. 258 00:16:28,400 --> 00:16:31,320 Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, And we're walking through James. 259 00:16:32,400 --> 00:16:32,600 Speaker 2: Yeah. 260 00:16:32,760 --> 00:16:32,840 Speaker 1: Oh. 261 00:16:33,200 --> 00:16:36,000 Speaker 3: We need church, we need each other, we need lots. 262 00:16:36,600 --> 00:16:39,760 Speaker 3: And I remember sitting there week after week and it 263 00:16:39,840 --> 00:16:42,760 Speaker 3: was an active faith series and it was like, okay, 264 00:16:43,040 --> 00:16:45,600 Speaker 3: because we became magnets for child life. I mean, I 265 00:16:45,640 --> 00:16:48,360 Speaker 3: still you know, now it's not as surprising, but then, 266 00:16:48,440 --> 00:16:50,720 Speaker 3: I mean it was, you know, once every other week 267 00:16:50,880 --> 00:16:53,480 Speaker 3: someone's telling me about someone who lost a child, and 268 00:16:53,600 --> 00:16:56,520 Speaker 3: same with because yes, now on the one that's like 269 00:16:56,560 --> 00:16:58,320 Speaker 3: can I connect you with this or did you hear 270 00:16:58,360 --> 00:17:00,720 Speaker 3: about this? And I was like, yes, this is all depressing, 271 00:17:01,400 --> 00:17:06,800 Speaker 3: and it was a lot. It was you know you honestly, 272 00:17:06,880 --> 00:17:09,720 Speaker 3: like our friend group became like these people can have kids, 273 00:17:09,760 --> 00:17:12,280 Speaker 3: these people this person's really young and they have breast 274 00:17:12,320 --> 00:17:14,720 Speaker 3: cancer and it's like, gosh, the lost children. 275 00:17:14,880 --> 00:17:18,720 Speaker 1: Yeah, and so let's talk to the miserable people about 276 00:17:18,760 --> 00:17:19,240 Speaker 1: more misery. 277 00:17:19,400 --> 00:17:22,720 Speaker 3: It was just kind of a magnet of all of it, 278 00:17:23,000 --> 00:17:26,560 Speaker 3: and it felt weighty. It felt heavy to hear all 279 00:17:26,640 --> 00:17:30,880 Speaker 3: these stories. No, thank goodness, no, that would have also 280 00:17:30,960 --> 00:17:34,879 Speaker 3: been a disaster. Okay, so luckily, luckily that did not, 281 00:17:35,520 --> 00:17:40,200 Speaker 3: and so it was heavy and we're like, okay, we 282 00:17:40,280 --> 00:17:43,600 Speaker 3: in really this Active Face series propelled us to like 283 00:17:43,680 --> 00:17:46,920 Speaker 3: we can do something with this in the same way 284 00:17:47,080 --> 00:17:48,960 Speaker 3: that we were praying for people. But it was like 285 00:17:49,400 --> 00:17:50,919 Speaker 3: did you hear about this? Did you hear about this? 286 00:17:50,960 --> 00:17:54,800 Speaker 3: Pray for this person? And so we we were like, 287 00:17:54,880 --> 00:17:57,160 Speaker 3: we can do something. And so we're like, let's meet 288 00:17:57,160 --> 00:18:00,360 Speaker 3: once a month and do the same thing that our 289 00:18:00,400 --> 00:18:02,080 Speaker 3: friends did for us. So we're going to pray for 290 00:18:02,119 --> 00:18:03,840 Speaker 3: them by name, We're going to write them a note 291 00:18:03,920 --> 00:18:05,960 Speaker 3: of encouragement, and we're going to send them a little 292 00:18:05,960 --> 00:18:06,440 Speaker 3: self thing. 293 00:18:06,480 --> 00:18:09,280 Speaker 1: And the you don't know these are people we don't anonymous. 294 00:18:08,800 --> 00:18:13,240 Speaker 3: Yeah, yep. And so Jamie Heather and I invited Jenny 295 00:18:13,240 --> 00:18:14,679 Speaker 3: Rebecca and were like, hey, do you want to do 296 00:18:14,720 --> 00:18:16,879 Speaker 3: this and she's like absolutely. So I remember it was 297 00:18:16,880 --> 00:18:20,560 Speaker 3: pouring down rain. We met on my back porch and 298 00:18:20,760 --> 00:18:24,600 Speaker 3: we had no shortage of names because people just kept 299 00:18:24,600 --> 00:18:27,159 Speaker 3: telling us people. And so we did that for several 300 00:18:27,200 --> 00:18:29,840 Speaker 3: months and We're like, Okay, this could turn into something. 301 00:18:30,280 --> 00:18:34,080 Speaker 3: And I've heard you talk about it's that feeling of 302 00:18:34,359 --> 00:18:38,159 Speaker 3: when you serve someone else, just the different perspective, just 303 00:18:38,200 --> 00:18:42,399 Speaker 3: the healing that the Lord does, just what is done 304 00:18:43,080 --> 00:18:47,919 Speaker 3: in yourself, like selfishly, it was really healing serving other people. 305 00:18:47,960 --> 00:18:50,040 Speaker 3: When I'm writing a note to someone that's lost a child, 306 00:18:50,640 --> 00:18:53,199 Speaker 3: and I'm reminding myself of those same truths, like the 307 00:18:53,200 --> 00:18:55,480 Speaker 3: Lord will not leave you, you are going to get through this, 308 00:18:55,600 --> 00:18:59,200 Speaker 3: you are not alone. I see you. I'm reminding myself 309 00:18:59,320 --> 00:19:04,000 Speaker 3: of those truths. So we decided, you know, let's do 310 00:19:04,040 --> 00:19:06,120 Speaker 3: something with this. And I was finishing up ten years 311 00:19:06,119 --> 00:19:08,840 Speaker 3: at my job and I went to Daniel and I 312 00:19:08,920 --> 00:19:11,920 Speaker 3: was like, I remember sitting around with those four founders. 313 00:19:12,000 --> 00:19:14,439 Speaker 3: We decided to call ourselves Faith flour Restored. We almost 314 00:19:14,440 --> 00:19:18,280 Speaker 3: did Beautifully Broken, glad we did Faith Flour re stored, and. 315 00:19:18,320 --> 00:19:20,320 Speaker 1: I don't know, Beautifully Broken's kind of cool time. 316 00:19:20,520 --> 00:19:22,680 Speaker 3: I feel like Faith flo Restored takes a more positive 317 00:19:22,680 --> 00:19:23,520 Speaker 3: sweach it does. 318 00:19:23,680 --> 00:19:26,040 Speaker 1: Maybe Beautifully Broken could be a subtidal one back. 319 00:19:26,960 --> 00:19:30,840 Speaker 3: And so I remember going around and I was like, 320 00:19:30,880 --> 00:19:33,919 Speaker 3: does anyone else feel called to leave their jobs? And 321 00:19:33,960 --> 00:19:36,320 Speaker 3: a couple of them didn't even have jobs, but they're like, no, 322 00:19:36,440 --> 00:19:39,240 Speaker 3: I'm not doing this, and they're like nope, no, And 323 00:19:39,280 --> 00:19:42,159 Speaker 3: I was like, okay, because I could feel like I 324 00:19:42,200 --> 00:19:45,800 Speaker 3: think I'm meant to leave my job. And so anyway, 325 00:19:45,880 --> 00:19:46,720 Speaker 3: which is a big. 326 00:19:46,560 --> 00:19:49,720 Speaker 1: Deal given you always wanted to be a teacher, and 327 00:19:49,800 --> 00:19:50,320 Speaker 1: teaching was. 328 00:19:50,440 --> 00:19:52,439 Speaker 3: When I had my dream job. Like I worked at 329 00:19:52,480 --> 00:19:57,440 Speaker 3: a really great private schools amazing, Like I loved everything 330 00:19:57,480 --> 00:20:00,280 Speaker 3: about it until truly the Lord removed that desig hire 331 00:20:01,080 --> 00:20:03,720 Speaker 3: in my heart, and I just knew, I knew, I 332 00:20:03,800 --> 00:20:06,240 Speaker 3: knew I was supposed to leave and so and they 333 00:20:06,240 --> 00:20:07,959 Speaker 3: had been so good to me, you know, like I 334 00:20:08,000 --> 00:20:09,879 Speaker 3: took off six months when I had each child. I 335 00:20:09,920 --> 00:20:11,959 Speaker 3: took off six months when we lost a child, had 336 00:20:12,000 --> 00:20:14,120 Speaker 3: another child. So I basically worked like worked a year, 337 00:20:14,200 --> 00:20:15,080 Speaker 3: worked half a year, work. 338 00:20:15,160 --> 00:20:15,359 Speaker 1: You know. 339 00:20:15,680 --> 00:20:19,439 Speaker 3: They were so good to me. And so Daniel was like, 340 00:20:20,280 --> 00:20:21,439 Speaker 3: you know, what do you want to do? And I 341 00:20:21,480 --> 00:20:23,439 Speaker 3: was like, I want to promote organ donation and get 342 00:20:23,480 --> 00:20:25,840 Speaker 3: Faithful Restored off the ground. And he's like, that's not 343 00:20:25,960 --> 00:20:31,680 Speaker 3: a job. He's like, right, Okay, yes, I get that, Yes, 344 00:20:31,800 --> 00:20:35,400 Speaker 3: I would be losing money paying for child care for Annie. Well, 345 00:20:35,480 --> 00:20:39,320 Speaker 3: I did my job. Okay, yeah, you were right, You're right. 346 00:20:39,800 --> 00:20:43,320 Speaker 3: But then wrestled through that and ultimately I walked in. 347 00:20:43,840 --> 00:20:46,680 Speaker 3: It was actually a week before school started. I'd already 348 00:20:46,680 --> 00:20:49,720 Speaker 3: gotten my class list and I walked into my headmaster 349 00:20:49,760 --> 00:20:51,320 Speaker 3: and I was like, I just know I'm not meant 350 00:20:51,320 --> 00:20:54,400 Speaker 3: to come back. And what persuaded me? And I love 351 00:20:54,480 --> 00:20:57,320 Speaker 3: to share this because it ensworth orth. 352 00:20:57,359 --> 00:20:58,119 Speaker 1: What great school? 353 00:20:58,240 --> 00:21:01,840 Speaker 3: Ah, so good it was. It was really great. Still 354 00:21:02,240 --> 00:21:05,040 Speaker 3: keep up with parents and some teachers and stuff there. 355 00:21:05,480 --> 00:21:09,240 Speaker 3: But I would gone to gymnastics earlier in that week, 356 00:21:09,520 --> 00:21:11,840 Speaker 3: and this gymnastic teacher I was kind of tell her like, 357 00:21:11,840 --> 00:21:13,399 Speaker 3: I think I might leave my job this week, and 358 00:21:13,440 --> 00:21:16,280 Speaker 3: she said, Jamie, you never know who's praying for that job. 359 00:21:17,240 --> 00:21:19,080 Speaker 1: It's like, well, that's interesting. 360 00:21:19,640 --> 00:21:23,200 Speaker 3: And I did know because another team member had left 361 00:21:23,760 --> 00:21:28,400 Speaker 3: and we knew someone else had applied, and so they 362 00:21:28,400 --> 00:21:30,760 Speaker 3: didn't hire the one girl we knew, and so I 363 00:21:30,800 --> 00:21:33,560 Speaker 3: was like, I actually do know who is praying for 364 00:21:33,640 --> 00:21:37,159 Speaker 3: this job. And so that gave me the confidence. And 365 00:21:37,200 --> 00:21:39,760 Speaker 3: so I always tell people if you feel called, if 366 00:21:39,760 --> 00:21:42,199 Speaker 3: you truly feel like the Lord is calling you to 367 00:21:42,280 --> 00:21:46,159 Speaker 3: sell thing, just say yes. And so I left that 368 00:21:46,280 --> 00:21:49,560 Speaker 3: job and a couple of weeks later, we had a 369 00:21:49,680 --> 00:21:53,239 Speaker 3: launch event for Faithful Restored August of twenty nineteen, and 370 00:21:53,280 --> 00:21:56,320 Speaker 3: we just share there's probably like one hundred and fifty friends, family, 371 00:21:56,400 --> 00:21:58,480 Speaker 3: anyone we could get to, and we just stood on 372 00:21:58,520 --> 00:22:01,240 Speaker 3: the stage and just shared our our hopes and dreams 373 00:22:01,320 --> 00:22:02,280 Speaker 3: of Faithful Restored. 374 00:22:02,560 --> 00:22:05,200 Speaker 1: Tell me what they are the hopes, and James, what 375 00:22:06,240 --> 00:22:09,600 Speaker 1: now's the time to tell me what that is? I mean, 376 00:22:09,680 --> 00:22:13,840 Speaker 1: I hear I guess adolescent organ donation. 377 00:22:13,840 --> 00:22:16,040 Speaker 3: And there's a lot going on there. 378 00:22:16,200 --> 00:22:17,720 Speaker 1: Yeah, there's a lot going on there. 379 00:22:17,760 --> 00:22:20,520 Speaker 3: So our early board said the same thing, like this 380 00:22:20,640 --> 00:22:21,720 Speaker 3: is really broad. 381 00:22:21,680 --> 00:22:25,480 Speaker 1: This is a shotgun like big one. Yes, it's really widespread. 382 00:22:25,800 --> 00:22:30,280 Speaker 3: But our whole thing is whatever a woman is walking through, 383 00:22:30,520 --> 00:22:32,719 Speaker 3: we want them to know that they are loved, they 384 00:22:32,720 --> 00:22:37,000 Speaker 3: are not alone, and there's hope in Jesus, and until 385 00:22:37,160 --> 00:22:42,800 Speaker 3: we have to narrow that down, we truly take in 386 00:22:42,840 --> 00:22:46,040 Speaker 3: prayer request from across the country. In whatever it is 387 00:22:46,200 --> 00:22:50,760 Speaker 3: a woman's walking through, we serve anxiety, depression, divorce, a 388 00:22:50,800 --> 00:22:53,639 Speaker 3: lot of illness, a lot of child loss, because to me, 389 00:22:54,960 --> 00:22:58,160 Speaker 3: in the same way, child loss can lead to divorce, 390 00:22:58,280 --> 00:23:02,639 Speaker 3: lead to suicide, so can depression, so can anxiety. It 391 00:23:02,680 --> 00:23:06,560 Speaker 3: really does not. It doesn't matter how much money you have, 392 00:23:06,640 --> 00:23:08,840 Speaker 3: it doesn't matter where you come from, it doesn't matter 393 00:23:08,840 --> 00:23:11,959 Speaker 3: what you look like. All of those barriers are broken 394 00:23:12,040 --> 00:23:15,800 Speaker 3: down when you're struggling and when you're like, your valley 395 00:23:15,880 --> 00:23:18,800 Speaker 3: is your valley. I hope people don't lose a child. 396 00:23:18,840 --> 00:23:20,800 Speaker 3: I hope their valley is not the same as mine, 397 00:23:21,400 --> 00:23:23,520 Speaker 3: but it can lead to that same level of grief, 398 00:23:23,640 --> 00:23:26,840 Speaker 3: and for them, their value is their valley, and it's 399 00:23:28,200 --> 00:23:30,680 Speaker 3: it's not me to tell them, you know, I think 400 00:23:31,200 --> 00:23:34,440 Speaker 3: I think the enemy would love. When we speak as founders, 401 00:23:34,440 --> 00:23:37,639 Speaker 3: we always say like, your valley is your valley, because 402 00:23:37,680 --> 00:23:40,600 Speaker 3: I think the enemy would love for like people listening 403 00:23:40,640 --> 00:23:42,320 Speaker 3: even to say like, man, well at least I didn't 404 00:23:42,359 --> 00:23:44,280 Speaker 3: lose a child, or at least I don't have cancer, 405 00:23:45,160 --> 00:23:49,200 Speaker 3: and you need community, and you may need to feel 406 00:23:49,240 --> 00:23:53,359 Speaker 3: seen and know you're loved and not feel worthy the 407 00:23:53,440 --> 00:23:56,320 Speaker 3: same way that someone might feel walking through those struggles. 408 00:23:59,560 --> 00:24:02,280 Speaker 1: I pust my next comment with I believe in the 409 00:24:02,320 --> 00:24:12,520 Speaker 1: power prayer, but in my belief set is that prayer 410 00:24:14,720 --> 00:24:18,639 Speaker 1: allows God to put action items on your brain and 411 00:24:18,680 --> 00:24:25,320 Speaker 1: then says, go do it because prayer alone, I mean, 412 00:24:25,320 --> 00:24:27,400 Speaker 1: God could do what he wants to. But my experience 413 00:24:27,520 --> 00:24:34,399 Speaker 1: is prayer just prayer without action is they make you 414 00:24:34,440 --> 00:24:37,640 Speaker 1: feel better, but it doesn't often lead to a lot 415 00:24:37,720 --> 00:24:45,280 Speaker 1: of actionable change. So this can't be an organization. All 416 00:24:45,320 --> 00:24:47,080 Speaker 1: you do is sit around and hear people's. 417 00:24:46,840 --> 00:24:49,840 Speaker 3: Problems and pray for them, right right, And so that 418 00:24:49,920 --> 00:24:54,280 Speaker 3: action piece was what we wanted when we were hearing 419 00:24:54,320 --> 00:24:58,720 Speaker 3: about these women. We wanted to respect about women from everywhere, everywhere. 420 00:24:58,760 --> 00:25:01,840 Speaker 3: From the beginning, it was women from all over the country. 421 00:25:02,240 --> 00:25:05,040 Speaker 3: Now five years in, we've served women in forty eight 422 00:25:05,040 --> 00:25:07,800 Speaker 3: of the fifty states. Someone asked me the other day 423 00:25:07,840 --> 00:25:09,399 Speaker 3: what were the two and I was like, I actually 424 00:25:09,440 --> 00:25:11,720 Speaker 3: don't know. I need to find out and serve them 425 00:25:11,760 --> 00:25:13,720 Speaker 3: and just get our stat one hundred percent. 426 00:25:13,680 --> 00:25:15,520 Speaker 1: Serve tell me what that looks like. 427 00:25:15,760 --> 00:25:18,679 Speaker 3: So it looks It's the cool thing is it is 428 00:25:18,720 --> 00:25:23,639 Speaker 3: super individualized. So, say your neighbor just gets diagnosed with cancer, 429 00:25:23,840 --> 00:25:26,560 Speaker 3: you get on our website, Faithful Restored women dot com. 430 00:25:26,840 --> 00:25:29,280 Speaker 3: You putting your name and address, put in her name 431 00:25:29,280 --> 00:25:31,280 Speaker 3: and address, in a little bit about her story, maybe 432 00:25:31,320 --> 00:25:33,960 Speaker 3: you might say. And it depends. Some people tell a 433 00:25:34,000 --> 00:25:36,359 Speaker 3: lot of the stories. Some people tell a little Eighty 434 00:25:36,400 --> 00:25:39,480 Speaker 3: percent of the time, it is a friend submitting for someone. 435 00:25:39,920 --> 00:25:42,280 Speaker 3: We love it when people submit for themselves. We always 436 00:25:42,359 --> 00:25:45,639 Speaker 3: encourage that. I think you know, just as people you 437 00:25:45,640 --> 00:25:48,080 Speaker 3: always think someone has it worse than you. Asking for help, 438 00:25:48,119 --> 00:25:52,199 Speaker 3: asking for prayer is just there is, there is And 439 00:25:52,280 --> 00:25:55,040 Speaker 3: so eighty percent of the time it's you know, you 440 00:25:55,119 --> 00:25:57,639 Speaker 3: getting on there and saying your neighbor has breast cancer. 441 00:25:58,080 --> 00:26:00,520 Speaker 3: So when you submit that, someone on our team, our 442 00:26:00,600 --> 00:26:04,560 Speaker 3: outreach coordinator, gets that form and she is responding to you. 443 00:26:04,680 --> 00:26:09,480 Speaker 3: She's emailing you back, and every you you the. 444 00:26:09,359 --> 00:26:12,200 Speaker 1: Person that's submitted, not you're the person you're submitted. 445 00:26:11,800 --> 00:26:15,760 Speaker 3: About, correct, okay, And so she's writing you back, finding 446 00:26:15,760 --> 00:26:18,440 Speaker 3: out a little bit more any you know, anything, if 447 00:26:18,480 --> 00:26:20,840 Speaker 3: you know of a specific need that they have or what. 448 00:26:21,440 --> 00:26:24,280 Speaker 3: But every prayer request that comes in receives a care 449 00:26:24,320 --> 00:26:27,040 Speaker 3: package from us. So all of those prayer requests that 450 00:26:27,040 --> 00:26:31,320 Speaker 3: come in in our office are prayed for by name. 451 00:26:31,440 --> 00:26:33,919 Speaker 3: So all of this now is done by volunteers. So 452 00:26:33,960 --> 00:26:37,560 Speaker 3: we have three hundred volunteers where we are constantly trying 453 00:26:37,640 --> 00:26:40,760 Speaker 3: to get more things that volunteers can do. So volunteers 454 00:26:40,760 --> 00:26:43,159 Speaker 3: locally can come in our office and they'll get a 455 00:26:43,160 --> 00:26:45,440 Speaker 3: slip of paper it might say Jamie loss of child, 456 00:26:45,920 --> 00:26:49,520 Speaker 3: Heather a cancer diagnosis, and then they are it's almost 457 00:26:49,600 --> 00:26:52,400 Speaker 3: like a store we have set up, and they're coming in. 458 00:26:52,920 --> 00:26:56,199 Speaker 3: They're writing a handwritten note for that person, praying for 459 00:26:56,240 --> 00:27:00,000 Speaker 3: that person by name, and curating an individualized care package. 460 00:27:00,880 --> 00:27:03,520 Speaker 3: So we have a store set up with comfort items, 461 00:27:03,560 --> 00:27:04,960 Speaker 3: with books devotions. 462 00:27:05,560 --> 00:27:08,840 Speaker 1: So you're calling the person that emailed you or reached 463 00:27:08,880 --> 00:27:11,119 Speaker 1: out to you about the person and saying tell us 464 00:27:11,160 --> 00:27:13,560 Speaker 1: about her and what she likes and what she needs, 465 00:27:14,160 --> 00:27:17,720 Speaker 1: and then you're literally pulling from a stockshelf of care 466 00:27:17,760 --> 00:27:22,960 Speaker 1: and comfort items, things specifically that you know that this 467 00:27:23,000 --> 00:27:23,800 Speaker 1: person will want. 468 00:27:23,960 --> 00:27:28,240 Speaker 3: And sometimes people submit the prayer request and Kelly writes 469 00:27:28,280 --> 00:27:31,359 Speaker 3: them back and it's they're not giving much information a 470 00:27:31,400 --> 00:27:34,760 Speaker 3: lot of those details, and we have seen it time 471 00:27:34,800 --> 00:27:36,920 Speaker 3: and time again, like the Lord is in those details. 472 00:27:36,920 --> 00:27:38,240 Speaker 3: Like I got a call the other day that was 473 00:27:38,280 --> 00:27:41,640 Speaker 3: like her, I think grandmother passed away. I wasn't even 474 00:27:41,760 --> 00:27:43,399 Speaker 3: She's like, I don't even know how you knew that 475 00:27:43,480 --> 00:27:47,080 Speaker 3: my grandmother liked hummingbirds and she received a hummingbird teatowel 476 00:27:47,080 --> 00:27:49,280 Speaker 3: from us or something in our care package. And I 477 00:27:49,320 --> 00:27:51,679 Speaker 3: was like, I didn't even submit your prayer request and 478 00:27:51,720 --> 00:27:54,359 Speaker 3: I definitely wasn't the one making the care package. And 479 00:27:54,440 --> 00:27:58,800 Speaker 3: so there's a lot of those details in timing we 480 00:27:58,840 --> 00:28:01,720 Speaker 3: hear time and time again in of the timing of 481 00:28:01,760 --> 00:28:05,639 Speaker 3: our care packages. Is just the Lord has all of 482 00:28:05,680 --> 00:28:08,840 Speaker 3: those details and we trust him with that. So when 483 00:28:08,880 --> 00:28:11,680 Speaker 3: we say do you need when we say to cater 484 00:28:11,800 --> 00:28:16,159 Speaker 3: that need back, outside of you know, someone might say 485 00:28:16,440 --> 00:28:18,880 Speaker 3: they like this or they like that, but more often 486 00:28:19,280 --> 00:28:23,760 Speaker 3: those care packages are curated from that volunteer of like 487 00:28:24,119 --> 00:28:27,359 Speaker 3: what they think that person might like. But then on 488 00:28:27,440 --> 00:28:30,200 Speaker 3: top of that, you know, if you were to say, 489 00:28:31,680 --> 00:28:35,919 Speaker 3: you know, they're really struggling, they lost a child, something happened, 490 00:28:36,000 --> 00:28:38,800 Speaker 3: and we might say we do we have sent couples 491 00:28:38,840 --> 00:28:42,200 Speaker 3: away for like a weekend just for like a little respite, 492 00:28:42,880 --> 00:28:45,640 Speaker 3: so we'll send a couple away for a weekend just 493 00:28:45,680 --> 00:28:49,479 Speaker 3: to kind of have some time by themselves, grieve whatever 494 00:28:49,520 --> 00:28:53,000 Speaker 3: they need to do. Counseling grants will do one thousand 495 00:28:53,040 --> 00:28:56,000 Speaker 3: dollars counseling grants. You fill out an application, we'll do 496 00:28:56,040 --> 00:28:59,360 Speaker 3: a thousand dollars counseling grants. We've paid widows mortgages, we've 497 00:28:59,360 --> 00:29:04,480 Speaker 3: paid ACU puncture, We've truly outside. Everyone gets a care package. 498 00:29:04,880 --> 00:29:09,040 Speaker 3: But on top of that, if there are bigger needs, 499 00:29:09,240 --> 00:29:14,400 Speaker 3: now with our size, we're able to have bigger needs met. 500 00:29:16,960 --> 00:29:31,320 Speaker 1: We'll be right back. Okay, this is crazy, but I'm 501 00:29:31,360 --> 00:29:37,040 Speaker 1: going to do this quickly. Care packages including gift cards, books, 502 00:29:37,080 --> 00:29:41,320 Speaker 1: barefoot Dreams are standing on the word, socks, pamper kits, 503 00:29:41,400 --> 00:29:44,400 Speaker 1: jewelry and handwritten notes, gas and food. Gift cards for 504 00:29:44,440 --> 00:29:47,800 Speaker 1: those facing an illness day outings for grieving mothers. Day 505 00:29:47,800 --> 00:29:52,000 Speaker 1: outings for families affected by a loss. First holiday after 506 00:29:52,040 --> 00:29:56,000 Speaker 1: a loss, single mom, Christmas packages, Mother's Day packages, Father's 507 00:29:56,040 --> 00:30:01,680 Speaker 1: Day packages. Illness packages provide rent or mortgage assistants. Provide 508 00:30:01,720 --> 00:30:05,200 Speaker 1: all expense paid trips for grieving moms. Provide counseling assistants 509 00:30:06,360 --> 00:30:11,160 Speaker 1: all expense paid respites. Fifteen thousand dollars. Adoption grants to 510 00:30:11,200 --> 00:30:15,640 Speaker 1: a grieving mother, provide all expense paid respites for women counseling, 511 00:30:16,320 --> 00:30:21,440 Speaker 1: National Assistance for headstones, school tuition, the National Assistance for 512 00:30:21,560 --> 00:30:23,760 Speaker 1: mom and daughter who tend to retreat on the first 513 00:30:23,840 --> 00:30:27,880 Speaker 1: anniversary of the husband father's death. Furniture to furnish a 514 00:30:27,880 --> 00:30:32,520 Speaker 1: new house after woman lost her spouse, spouse respites people 515 00:30:33,080 --> 00:30:37,680 Speaker 1: like teachers, military wives, foster moms, mending hearts, residents, female 516 00:30:37,720 --> 00:30:42,240 Speaker 1: police officers, adopted moms on college patients, and nurses at 517 00:30:42,400 --> 00:30:49,920 Speaker 1: oncology Williams Medical Center. Nurses. Holy crap, This is from 518 00:30:50,080 --> 00:30:52,520 Speaker 1: three chicks who had a bunch of loss that decide 519 00:30:52,520 --> 00:30:54,440 Speaker 1: they're going to send some people some notes. 520 00:30:56,720 --> 00:31:01,000 Speaker 3: I mean, I'm telling you. When we said yes, we're like, okay, Lord, 521 00:31:01,560 --> 00:31:04,080 Speaker 3: we didn't know anything about a nonprofit. None of us 522 00:31:04,080 --> 00:31:06,400 Speaker 3: had said on board we had donated that is the 523 00:31:06,640 --> 00:31:10,080 Speaker 3: knowledge of nonprofits like I'd given to nonprofits. We didn't 524 00:31:10,080 --> 00:31:12,560 Speaker 3: know anything about nonprofits. And when we said yes, the 525 00:31:12,600 --> 00:31:15,760 Speaker 3: Lord's like, I've got you. I've got you. Just do 526 00:31:16,040 --> 00:31:18,760 Speaker 3: the next thing. And so we have tried to stay 527 00:31:18,800 --> 00:31:22,000 Speaker 3: spirit led in everything we've done. And I'll tell you 528 00:31:22,080 --> 00:31:27,400 Speaker 3: the biggest gift has been our growth has been incredible, 529 00:31:27,920 --> 00:31:32,480 Speaker 3: but the Lord has matched that growth, like the number 530 00:31:32,520 --> 00:31:35,680 Speaker 3: of prayer requests we're getting, you know, just we're what 531 00:31:35,800 --> 00:31:39,480 Speaker 3: the eighteenth of March, halfway through the month, we've already 532 00:31:39,520 --> 00:31:43,680 Speaker 3: received sixty five individual prayer requests, So now we're averaging 533 00:31:43,720 --> 00:31:47,000 Speaker 3: like one hundred a month. So that's one hundred individual 534 00:31:47,080 --> 00:31:51,240 Speaker 3: women's stories that we're serving. And I'm glad that you 535 00:31:51,280 --> 00:31:53,640 Speaker 3: brought up kind of Mother's Day packages and stuff, because 536 00:31:54,040 --> 00:31:58,440 Speaker 3: I think what's unique also and impressive about us is 537 00:31:58,480 --> 00:32:01,840 Speaker 3: we're not a one and done. So you send in 538 00:32:01,920 --> 00:32:06,600 Speaker 3: your aunt that just lost a child with laws specifically, 539 00:32:07,120 --> 00:32:10,200 Speaker 3: we are ongoing care has a process, so say that 540 00:32:10,280 --> 00:32:13,480 Speaker 3: happened last month, we'll wait a couple months send something 541 00:32:13,520 --> 00:32:15,479 Speaker 3: because there's a lot of support in the beginning. We 542 00:32:15,600 --> 00:32:19,200 Speaker 3: kind of wait until everything has done, very intentionally because 543 00:32:19,760 --> 00:32:21,880 Speaker 3: we're able to know those things because of what we 544 00:32:21,960 --> 00:32:25,160 Speaker 3: walk through. So our stories are a gift that have 545 00:32:25,240 --> 00:32:30,640 Speaker 3: allowed us to serve in a way that provides meaningful support. Also, 546 00:32:30,760 --> 00:32:33,040 Speaker 3: one thing I didn't mention, I don't know if it 547 00:32:33,120 --> 00:32:37,880 Speaker 3: needs to, but with faithful Restored, outside of the individual 548 00:32:37,880 --> 00:32:43,080 Speaker 3: prayer request, we do community packages. So like for Mother's Day, 549 00:32:43,080 --> 00:32:46,160 Speaker 3: we'll do four hundred and fifty care packages, So every 550 00:32:46,200 --> 00:32:50,800 Speaker 3: mom or caretaker that has a child at Vanderbilt Children's 551 00:32:50,840 --> 00:32:52,760 Speaker 3: will get a care package from us on Mother's Day. 552 00:32:53,000 --> 00:32:56,240 Speaker 1: Are you kidding? That's cool? Every single mother as a 553 00:32:56,280 --> 00:32:57,800 Speaker 1: kid at Vanderbilt schupp. 554 00:32:57,560 --> 00:33:00,920 Speaker 3: Four hundred and fifty and it's been really neat to like. 555 00:33:00,880 --> 00:33:05,760 Speaker 1: Look you up with Saint Jude. Yeah, these are these 556 00:33:05,760 --> 00:33:10,600 Speaker 1: are now moms from all over the world here with 557 00:33:10,760 --> 00:33:15,440 Speaker 1: children fighting cancer, some cancers of which don't even have names. 558 00:33:16,520 --> 00:33:17,720 Speaker 1: They don't even know what kind of cancer. 559 00:33:17,800 --> 00:33:22,160 Speaker 3: Right, Yeah, it's it's one of my favorite projects basically 560 00:33:22,560 --> 00:33:25,600 Speaker 3: kind of because my passion for Vanderbilt and that's where 561 00:33:25,600 --> 00:33:28,480 Speaker 3: we were and we were well cared for. But that 562 00:33:28,640 --> 00:33:33,400 Speaker 3: selfthing community packages, walking alongside Covenant where the school shooting was, 563 00:33:34,160 --> 00:33:38,120 Speaker 3: that has been something. You know, our continued support of 564 00:33:38,120 --> 00:33:41,440 Speaker 3: those teachers and staff and I mean we just did 565 00:33:42,320 --> 00:33:45,000 Speaker 3: in December a coffee cart for their staff just to 566 00:33:46,160 --> 00:33:49,080 Speaker 3: our whole goal is just cantu Yeah, it doesn't matter 567 00:33:49,120 --> 00:33:50,440 Speaker 3: if it's a year and a half later, but. 568 00:33:53,480 --> 00:33:54,760 Speaker 1: This is not cheap. 569 00:33:57,080 --> 00:34:00,800 Speaker 3: And the cool thing so with that loss, you're your aunt, 570 00:34:00,840 --> 00:34:03,520 Speaker 3: that lost a child, she would get an initial care package, 571 00:34:03,840 --> 00:34:08,279 Speaker 3: and then Mother's Day we'll have three hundred care packages 572 00:34:08,320 --> 00:34:11,880 Speaker 3: go out. And because she'll be experiencing her first Mother's 573 00:34:11,960 --> 00:34:15,160 Speaker 3: Day without her child, so she's prayed for by name 574 00:34:15,239 --> 00:34:20,440 Speaker 3: in sent a specific care package in November. In November, 575 00:34:21,080 --> 00:34:23,879 Speaker 3: before her first set of holidays without her child, she'll 576 00:34:23,920 --> 00:34:26,120 Speaker 3: be prayed for by name and sent something. And so 577 00:34:26,560 --> 00:34:29,279 Speaker 3: I think the cool thing about us some is one 578 00:34:29,320 --> 00:34:31,879 Speaker 3: and done. You know, your husband has surgery that you're 579 00:34:31,880 --> 00:34:34,040 Speaker 3: walking through, we might get a prayer request for that, 580 00:34:34,120 --> 00:34:36,960 Speaker 3: will send you something, and then it's not really well, 581 00:34:37,120 --> 00:34:39,239 Speaker 3: we may follow up with a note or something. But 582 00:34:39,360 --> 00:34:42,880 Speaker 3: with loss, it's that continued care. And then even though 583 00:34:42,920 --> 00:34:46,800 Speaker 3: it'll be ten years in December, I'm on the November list. 584 00:34:47,280 --> 00:34:50,280 Speaker 3: So with loss of child, you stay on that list. 585 00:34:50,320 --> 00:34:54,800 Speaker 3: And so every November, as I'm anticipating that anniversary in December, 586 00:34:55,239 --> 00:34:58,239 Speaker 3: I'm prayed for by name and volunteer specifically come in 587 00:34:58,480 --> 00:35:00,239 Speaker 3: and make anniversary of care packag. 588 00:35:01,200 --> 00:35:07,640 Speaker 1: So does some woman sitting in Albuquerque who's thirty eight and 589 00:35:07,680 --> 00:35:11,840 Speaker 1: lost her husband to cancer and has two children. That 590 00:35:11,960 --> 00:35:17,640 Speaker 1: happens I picked Albuquerque. Her sister send you an email 591 00:35:17,640 --> 00:35:21,759 Speaker 1: and tells you about this, she has no idea, and 592 00:35:21,800 --> 00:35:25,040 Speaker 1: then just anonymously, one day, a care package shows up 593 00:35:25,080 --> 00:35:27,200 Speaker 1: with a handwritten letter and some things in it, and 594 00:35:27,239 --> 00:35:31,480 Speaker 1: it says, You're not alone. Other people have experienced it. 595 00:35:31,920 --> 00:35:37,320 Speaker 1: I'd love you, we love you. And then periodically throughout 596 00:35:37,600 --> 00:35:41,680 Speaker 1: the ensuing years, you stay in touch with her through 597 00:35:41,719 --> 00:35:45,200 Speaker 1: this outreach, so that she has reinforced that there are 598 00:35:45,280 --> 00:35:48,200 Speaker 1: people praying for her, loving her, and she's not alone. 599 00:35:48,520 --> 00:35:52,880 Speaker 3: And we have seen generational impact because of those simple 600 00:35:53,440 --> 00:35:57,200 Speaker 3: things we're doing. What like I mean, she's thirty eight, 601 00:35:57,239 --> 00:36:01,400 Speaker 3: trying to raise two kids and feeling alone. Like the 602 00:36:01,440 --> 00:36:05,360 Speaker 3: way the Lord is able to use us to help 603 00:36:05,880 --> 00:36:09,319 Speaker 3: remind her that she's not alone. Maybe exactly what she 604 00:36:09,400 --> 00:36:11,200 Speaker 3: needed on the day where she was thinking about taking 605 00:36:11,200 --> 00:36:14,200 Speaker 3: her own life, or she was thinking about, you know, 606 00:36:14,320 --> 00:36:18,839 Speaker 3: doing something, or you know, then before she's thinking about 607 00:36:18,840 --> 00:36:22,480 Speaker 3: the anniversary, like she is seen again and then she's able, 608 00:36:22,640 --> 00:36:25,400 Speaker 3: like I can do this. This in just that encouragement, 609 00:36:25,520 --> 00:36:27,880 Speaker 3: able to be a better mom because of it, able 610 00:36:27,960 --> 00:36:30,880 Speaker 3: to you know, someone struggling with mental health. We had 611 00:36:30,920 --> 00:36:34,120 Speaker 3: her actually record a video. We just she had never 612 00:36:34,400 --> 00:36:37,560 Speaker 3: really been told that she was loved struggled with mental health, 613 00:36:37,600 --> 00:36:40,799 Speaker 3: and we just kept on encouraging her and encouraging her. 614 00:36:41,200 --> 00:36:44,799 Speaker 3: And you know, when you see people and love on 615 00:36:44,960 --> 00:36:49,680 Speaker 3: people that don't have people telling them that they're loved 616 00:36:50,600 --> 00:36:55,480 Speaker 3: and that they're worth anything, that can those simple words 617 00:36:55,560 --> 00:36:59,839 Speaker 3: and acts of you know, showing up can change their 618 00:36:59,840 --> 00:37:05,040 Speaker 3: life life. And so we have seen that happen. And also, 619 00:37:05,160 --> 00:37:09,400 Speaker 3: so you said it's expensive, we've we launched in twenty 620 00:37:09,480 --> 00:37:13,720 Speaker 3: nineteen and we finished that year with twenty eight thousand 621 00:37:13,719 --> 00:37:18,279 Speaker 3: dollars from our event. Ten was from one person, you know, 622 00:37:18,360 --> 00:37:21,399 Speaker 3: So we finished with twenty eight thousand dollars. Last year 623 00:37:21,600 --> 00:37:24,800 Speaker 3: twenty twenty four, we finished with eight hundred and sixteen 624 00:37:24,840 --> 00:37:25,799 Speaker 3: thousand dollars. 625 00:37:26,080 --> 00:37:27,440 Speaker 1: Where the heck does that come. 626 00:37:27,280 --> 00:37:33,040 Speaker 3: From individual donors people like you? Really, honestly, we are 627 00:37:33,080 --> 00:37:36,440 Speaker 3: not affiliated with churches. We don't have church backing, we 628 00:37:36,480 --> 00:37:38,960 Speaker 3: don't do federal grants, we don't do any we don't 629 00:37:39,000 --> 00:37:41,200 Speaker 3: even have anyone on our staff, which I'm not against, 630 00:37:41,239 --> 00:37:44,880 Speaker 3: but our staff is so we have six part time employees, 631 00:37:45,360 --> 00:37:47,120 Speaker 3: and our staff is so small and it has been 632 00:37:47,160 --> 00:37:52,080 Speaker 3: so mission minded. We just haven't really you know, done 633 00:37:52,080 --> 00:37:55,520 Speaker 3: a deep dive into grants. So it is individual donors. 634 00:37:55,880 --> 00:37:58,120 Speaker 3: So that's part. We don't even have anyone on staff 635 00:37:58,120 --> 00:38:00,920 Speaker 3: that does development, but it's just our team and a 636 00:38:00,960 --> 00:38:06,040 Speaker 3: lot you know, and that's making relationships and sharing our 637 00:38:06,120 --> 00:38:10,840 Speaker 3: stories and we just have people that want to be 638 00:38:11,040 --> 00:38:13,040 Speaker 3: a part of it. And you talked about you know, 639 00:38:13,160 --> 00:38:16,439 Speaker 3: we do time, treasure, talent, whatever it is. I love 640 00:38:16,520 --> 00:38:19,920 Speaker 3: meeting with people. And it's like, what is it that 641 00:38:19,920 --> 00:38:22,600 Speaker 3: the Lord has for you? With faithful restored? And so 642 00:38:22,760 --> 00:38:24,880 Speaker 3: it might be that you have you're an empty nester 643 00:38:24,960 --> 00:38:26,480 Speaker 3: and you've got a bunch of time on your hands. 644 00:38:26,480 --> 00:38:29,160 Speaker 3: You might want to volunteer with us, or you might 645 00:38:29,200 --> 00:38:30,960 Speaker 3: need serve. I meet a lot of women and like 646 00:38:31,000 --> 00:38:33,400 Speaker 3: they just need served by us right now. Like there 647 00:38:33,440 --> 00:38:35,080 Speaker 3: might be a time that they come around and our 648 00:38:35,120 --> 00:38:38,880 Speaker 3: donors and volunteer whatever, but like right now, like we 649 00:38:38,960 --> 00:38:41,000 Speaker 3: just want to love on you. And then you have 650 00:38:41,040 --> 00:38:42,759 Speaker 3: those people that sit in your office that have a 651 00:38:42,800 --> 00:38:45,160 Speaker 3: lot of money or don't even have a lot of money, 652 00:38:45,400 --> 00:38:47,520 Speaker 3: but I have both. But you might have someone that 653 00:38:47,600 --> 00:38:49,960 Speaker 3: has a lot of money and they just want a 654 00:38:50,040 --> 00:38:53,200 Speaker 3: place that they feel good about giving to. And so 655 00:38:53,320 --> 00:38:56,520 Speaker 3: as much as our donors are an answered prayer for us, 656 00:38:57,239 --> 00:39:00,480 Speaker 3: we've seen so often that we're an answer prayer for them. 657 00:39:00,600 --> 00:39:07,360 Speaker 1: Back to what you talked about the depth of satisfaction 658 00:39:07,920 --> 00:39:12,239 Speaker 1: people can get from serving by donating to people like 659 00:39:12,320 --> 00:39:16,320 Speaker 1: you who are doing this work. Two thousand, eight hundred 660 00:39:16,360 --> 00:39:18,759 Speaker 1: and thirty nine of when this was written, so that 661 00:39:18,800 --> 00:39:21,960 Speaker 1: maybe that's the number is probably bigger, But to date, 662 00:39:22,719 --> 00:39:26,279 Speaker 1: two hundred and two eight thirty nine women have been 663 00:39:26,320 --> 00:39:30,640 Speaker 1: served through prayer and requests, submissions ranging from child loss 664 00:39:30,640 --> 00:39:36,080 Speaker 1: to widows, cancer, illness, depression, anxiety, disability, financial heartsops, adoption 665 00:39:36,239 --> 00:39:41,000 Speaker 1: and fertility stress, and more. Twenty five hundred and seventy 666 00:39:41,000 --> 00:39:45,520 Speaker 1: five that's a lot of care packages have been sent 667 00:39:45,600 --> 00:39:50,440 Speaker 1: through our special projects initiatives. Anniversaries and holidays can carry 668 00:39:50,440 --> 00:39:56,160 Speaker 1: heavy weight, and so you are sure to remember them. 669 00:39:56,640 --> 00:40:00,239 Speaker 1: Two of the people who have reached out I've said this, 670 00:40:01,520 --> 00:40:04,360 Speaker 1: thank you, dear friends in Christ, for reminding me three 671 00:40:04,400 --> 00:40:07,200 Speaker 1: times throughout the year that God has not forgotten me. 672 00:40:07,960 --> 00:40:12,600 Speaker 1: The thoughtfulness put into each package, personal notes, and most importantly, 673 00:40:13,040 --> 00:40:15,440 Speaker 1: the knowledge that you are lifting me up in prayer 674 00:40:16,080 --> 00:40:18,480 Speaker 1: helps me to focus on the blessings rather than my 675 00:40:18,560 --> 00:40:22,440 Speaker 1: early loss. The impact you've made on my life is immeasurable. 676 00:40:22,600 --> 00:40:26,560 Speaker 1: Another says, I received the most unexpected package in the 677 00:40:26,560 --> 00:40:30,600 Speaker 1: mal today from your beautiful organization, and my heart is 678 00:40:30,640 --> 00:40:34,440 Speaker 1: overflowing with things. This week has been hard, but I 679 00:40:34,480 --> 00:40:37,400 Speaker 1: believe God showed up through you. Thank you for the 680 00:40:37,400 --> 00:40:40,319 Speaker 1: reminder that I'm not alone in this broken world. Thank 681 00:40:40,360 --> 00:40:43,960 Speaker 1: you for praying and thinking of someone like me. What 682 00:40:44,320 --> 00:40:47,120 Speaker 1: goes through your heart and mind when you hear that. 683 00:40:49,480 --> 00:40:53,520 Speaker 3: Is so honoring to get to do the work that 684 00:40:53,560 --> 00:40:56,400 Speaker 3: we get to do. I had people I could have 685 00:40:56,440 --> 00:41:01,640 Speaker 3: written multiple message is just like that about people that 686 00:41:01,680 --> 00:41:03,920 Speaker 3: showed up for me, and so I know what that 687 00:41:03,960 --> 00:41:06,600 Speaker 3: feels like to get something in the mail on a 688 00:41:06,640 --> 00:41:08,719 Speaker 3: really hard day when you feel like the world's gone 689 00:41:08,760 --> 00:41:13,799 Speaker 3: on and you're still grieving your child. And so it's 690 00:41:13,880 --> 00:41:16,440 Speaker 3: just it's like a dream that this is now my 691 00:41:16,920 --> 00:41:22,680 Speaker 3: job that I get to love on women and remind 692 00:41:22,680 --> 00:41:26,399 Speaker 3: them that they're not alone. It's incredible and it's been 693 00:41:26,480 --> 00:41:28,840 Speaker 3: amazing to have a front row seat to what the 694 00:41:28,880 --> 00:41:32,520 Speaker 3: Lord's done through Faithful Restored. And those numbers keep getting higher, 695 00:41:33,080 --> 00:41:35,000 Speaker 3: and it's just it's amazing. 696 00:41:43,760 --> 00:41:44,919 Speaker 1: We'll be right back. 697 00:41:56,000 --> 00:41:58,520 Speaker 3: We just keep doing what we're doing. I mean, someone 698 00:41:58,560 --> 00:42:00,759 Speaker 3: asked me. We just celebrated five years. 699 00:42:01,080 --> 00:42:04,279 Speaker 1: And which is stupid and only five years that you've 700 00:42:04,320 --> 00:42:06,759 Speaker 1: done all this. It's ridiculous. 701 00:42:06,920 --> 00:42:09,359 Speaker 3: It is It is ridiculous because those are ending. 702 00:42:09,520 --> 00:42:12,640 Speaker 1: Daniel can rest easy. You got yourself a job good? 703 00:42:12,960 --> 00:42:17,759 Speaker 3: I did, Yes, I did. Okay, this is this is brief. 704 00:42:18,080 --> 00:42:21,000 Speaker 3: But when we launched in twenty nineteen, you know, he 705 00:42:21,040 --> 00:42:23,319 Speaker 3: had just told me that about the job situation. And 706 00:42:23,360 --> 00:42:26,839 Speaker 3: we launched and I had someone had didn't know any 707 00:42:26,880 --> 00:42:29,480 Speaker 3: of us, that came that night and she called me 708 00:42:29,520 --> 00:42:30,880 Speaker 3: and she said, I'd like to do an end of 709 00:42:30,920 --> 00:42:34,680 Speaker 3: the year donation. I was like, great, sure, and so 710 00:42:35,080 --> 00:42:36,960 Speaker 3: she donated and we're like, we should ask her to 711 00:42:36,960 --> 00:42:39,520 Speaker 3: be on our board. And so I meet with her 712 00:42:39,640 --> 00:42:42,600 Speaker 3: in December of twenty nineteen, me and someone else, and 713 00:42:43,080 --> 00:42:47,320 Speaker 3: she said, so, this is what four months after I 714 00:42:47,400 --> 00:42:50,319 Speaker 3: quit my job, and she said, my husband and I 715 00:42:50,360 --> 00:42:52,719 Speaker 3: feel called to pay your salary for you to be 716 00:42:52,800 --> 00:42:57,879 Speaker 3: employed by Faithful Restored. What So when I tell you 717 00:42:58,000 --> 00:43:01,239 Speaker 3: I wasn't praying bold enough prayers. And when I tell you, 718 00:43:01,280 --> 00:43:06,080 Speaker 3: the Lord was like, I have got you. He has 719 00:43:06,600 --> 00:43:09,239 Speaker 3: he did you know these people I had never met. 720 00:43:09,239 --> 00:43:12,080 Speaker 3: That was the first time I'd met her, first time 721 00:43:12,160 --> 00:43:13,080 Speaker 3: i'd ever met her. 722 00:43:14,320 --> 00:43:16,680 Speaker 1: Did you have did y'all's organization serve her? 723 00:43:17,000 --> 00:43:19,960 Speaker 3: Oh? She had. She went to our launch event and 724 00:43:20,000 --> 00:43:22,719 Speaker 3: then went home and talked to her husband and they 725 00:43:22,800 --> 00:43:25,520 Speaker 3: listened to a podcast that I'd done with Daniel telling 726 00:43:25,560 --> 00:43:29,040 Speaker 3: our story, and they just said, we feel called. 727 00:43:28,920 --> 00:43:31,439 Speaker 1: And the Power podcasts. I know, I know. 728 00:43:31,640 --> 00:43:34,120 Speaker 3: Who's to say what will happen? There's a listener out 729 00:43:34,120 --> 00:43:36,839 Speaker 3: there that wants to give us a million dollars right now, 730 00:43:36,920 --> 00:43:40,480 Speaker 3: right now. We don't know, so I always you never know, 731 00:43:40,920 --> 00:43:45,200 Speaker 3: but I always share that because the Lord's been so 732 00:43:45,440 --> 00:43:48,120 Speaker 3: faithful in ways that are just like not like I 733 00:43:48,120 --> 00:43:50,000 Speaker 3: think he sees us. I think we're I think this 734 00:43:50,120 --> 00:43:52,359 Speaker 3: is it, but like no, I have got you. I'm 735 00:43:52,360 --> 00:43:56,279 Speaker 3: going to provide someone that is gonna and they will 736 00:43:56,320 --> 00:43:59,279 Speaker 3: tell you. I'm still very very close with them, and 737 00:43:59,360 --> 00:44:02,040 Speaker 3: they will tell you what an answer, prayer, faithful, restored 738 00:44:02,200 --> 00:44:03,640 Speaker 3: has been for them. 739 00:44:03,480 --> 00:44:09,560 Speaker 1: To them to them. So two questions. Someone listening to 740 00:44:09,640 --> 00:44:13,120 Speaker 1: us right now says, someone in deep despair from any 741 00:44:13,160 --> 00:44:17,040 Speaker 1: of these types of losses or dealing with these things, 742 00:44:17,880 --> 00:44:24,400 Speaker 1: how do they get to you, guys, to get a 743 00:44:24,520 --> 00:44:27,719 Speaker 1: package to the person they're concerned about. Tell our listeners 744 00:44:27,800 --> 00:44:30,400 Speaker 1: right now and I'm going to tell you something. I 745 00:44:30,400 --> 00:44:32,120 Speaker 1: don't know if this is answered prayer or not, but 746 00:44:32,200 --> 00:44:34,680 Speaker 1: your your bank account is probably going to go down 747 00:44:34,800 --> 00:44:37,320 Speaker 1: after you do this because there's a lot of people 748 00:44:37,320 --> 00:44:39,759 Speaker 1: that listen to this show that's okay, and you're going 749 00:44:39,840 --> 00:44:41,640 Speaker 1: to get a whole bunch of requests after this thing 750 00:44:41,680 --> 00:44:44,520 Speaker 1: goes live. So I'm just fair warning. How do they 751 00:44:44,520 --> 00:44:44,799 Speaker 1: do it? 752 00:44:45,080 --> 00:44:47,880 Speaker 3: They go to faithfully Restored women dot com. Say it again, 753 00:44:48,120 --> 00:44:50,440 Speaker 3: faithfully Restored women dot com. 754 00:44:50,440 --> 00:44:53,360 Speaker 1: Okay, faithfully Restored women dot. 755 00:44:53,080 --> 00:44:57,920 Speaker 3: Com on our home page says prayer request And so 756 00:44:57,960 --> 00:45:00,600 Speaker 3: you just click that button and it'll explained to you 757 00:45:00,680 --> 00:45:03,200 Speaker 3: the process. But you just click that. There's a form, but. 758 00:45:03,160 --> 00:45:04,960 Speaker 1: It's more than a prayer cross, it's the whole thing. 759 00:45:05,160 --> 00:45:07,560 Speaker 3: It's yeah, yeah, But they so say if they have 760 00:45:07,640 --> 00:45:10,120 Speaker 3: someone in mind, they would go there, click and it's 761 00:45:10,200 --> 00:45:13,359 Speaker 3: just an easy form that they fill out. They can 762 00:45:13,400 --> 00:45:15,359 Speaker 3: go as much or as little as in depth of 763 00:45:15,400 --> 00:45:19,160 Speaker 3: the story. And then we love when people do it 764 00:45:19,200 --> 00:45:23,719 Speaker 3: for themselves because you have to understand, we're only we 765 00:45:23,800 --> 00:45:27,000 Speaker 3: only know as much as that person is saying, and 766 00:45:27,360 --> 00:45:30,040 Speaker 3: we're on it's hard to pay. You pay someone's mortgage 767 00:45:30,080 --> 00:45:34,120 Speaker 3: whenever you know you're dealing with their friend that doesn't 768 00:45:34,160 --> 00:45:35,680 Speaker 3: know exactly what they need or whatever. 769 00:45:35,719 --> 00:45:39,520 Speaker 1: And do you vet this stuff to make sure that 770 00:45:39,560 --> 00:45:40,799 Speaker 1: you're not being you. 771 00:45:40,920 --> 00:45:43,239 Speaker 3: Dap local people if we can, you. 772 00:45:43,160 --> 00:45:44,400 Speaker 1: Have a responsibility to do. 773 00:45:44,920 --> 00:45:48,200 Speaker 3: Right right and we don't pay everyone's rent or anything. Obviously, 774 00:45:48,200 --> 00:45:51,040 Speaker 3: we can only do a couple big projects a month 775 00:45:51,040 --> 00:45:54,280 Speaker 3: and stuff, so we're but you've got it. Yeah, local 776 00:45:54,320 --> 00:45:57,120 Speaker 3: people we meet with if they're out of state or something, 777 00:45:57,200 --> 00:45:59,600 Speaker 3: we vet them with a phone call or something. But 778 00:45:59,840 --> 00:46:03,360 Speaker 3: they go there, they submit the form, our outreach coordinator 779 00:46:03,480 --> 00:46:06,960 Speaker 3: will email them back and so you're talking. Her name's Kelly, 780 00:46:07,040 --> 00:46:10,399 Speaker 3: she's fantastic, and they're talking with her. 781 00:46:11,040 --> 00:46:13,680 Speaker 1: The beauty of this is it's based in Brentwood and 782 00:46:13,800 --> 00:46:20,640 Speaker 1: Nashville area, but you're reaching the country. So there's really 783 00:46:20,680 --> 00:46:23,680 Speaker 1: not a call to put this anywhere else in somebody's neighborhood. 784 00:46:23,719 --> 00:46:25,719 Speaker 1: There's just a call to continue to support and blow 785 00:46:25,800 --> 00:46:28,200 Speaker 1: up this because you can serve the country and your 786 00:46:28,239 --> 00:46:33,680 Speaker 1: capacity in one place, so. 787 00:46:32,160 --> 00:46:35,319 Speaker 4: People around the country could be interested in starting their 788 00:46:35,360 --> 00:46:37,880 Speaker 4: own physical location so that they could do the packages. 789 00:46:38,320 --> 00:46:40,160 Speaker 4: So someone we were talking about before you got here, 790 00:46:40,600 --> 00:46:43,359 Speaker 4: or somebody in Dallas who's doing it, and I don't 791 00:46:43,360 --> 00:46:44,280 Speaker 4: know your openness, Jamie. 792 00:46:44,280 --> 00:46:46,440 Speaker 1: Maybe there's unhelpful what I'm saying, but people doing it. 793 00:46:46,640 --> 00:46:48,279 Speaker 3: No, it's okay in other locations. 794 00:46:48,320 --> 00:46:51,200 Speaker 4: But obviously, like you know, imagine there's a group of 795 00:46:51,360 --> 00:46:53,239 Speaker 4: you know, ten women in Memphis who want to get 796 00:46:53,239 --> 00:46:56,120 Speaker 4: together and you know, physically put together the packages and 797 00:46:57,360 --> 00:46:59,399 Speaker 4: are you open to that. 798 00:47:00,760 --> 00:47:06,080 Speaker 3: It's something that is on our radar. We have it's 799 00:47:06,160 --> 00:47:08,600 Speaker 3: just managing it, so it has to be right. So 800 00:47:08,880 --> 00:47:12,080 Speaker 3: he's right. We have. We have a donor in Dallas 801 00:47:12,640 --> 00:47:17,000 Speaker 3: that was like, I will support you guys financially and stuff. 802 00:47:17,040 --> 00:47:20,400 Speaker 3: I'd love a hands on way to do this, and 803 00:47:20,480 --> 00:47:24,440 Speaker 3: so we went down there and kind of worked it 804 00:47:24,480 --> 00:47:28,080 Speaker 3: out and so they her and her couple friends meet 805 00:47:28,200 --> 00:47:31,600 Speaker 3: once a month at her house. Her assistant manages it all. 806 00:47:31,640 --> 00:47:34,200 Speaker 3: So that that's really what makes it work is no 807 00:47:34,239 --> 00:47:37,799 Speaker 3: one on our staff is having to manage it all. 808 00:47:38,040 --> 00:47:41,080 Speaker 3: But they have a store setup just like we do, 809 00:47:41,320 --> 00:47:44,560 Speaker 3: super nice and they get together once a month. We 810 00:47:44,600 --> 00:47:47,920 Speaker 3: give them fifteen names that come in from our system, 811 00:47:48,360 --> 00:47:52,120 Speaker 3: and so they're basically volunteering remotely. But the only reason 812 00:47:52,200 --> 00:47:57,440 Speaker 3: that works is because they are invested and have someone 813 00:47:58,000 --> 00:48:01,680 Speaker 3: they're managing that. So she sends out the care packages, 814 00:48:01,760 --> 00:48:04,400 Speaker 3: she ships it all, she reports back to us everything 815 00:48:04,400 --> 00:48:05,520 Speaker 3: that was sent when it's sent. 816 00:48:05,960 --> 00:48:09,080 Speaker 1: Under that, guys, other people could reach out to you 817 00:48:09,120 --> 00:48:14,480 Speaker 1: if they wanted to go to that effort to do it. Yeah, satellites, Yes, 818 00:48:15,160 --> 00:48:18,280 Speaker 1: that that person that's going to give you the million dollars. 819 00:48:18,680 --> 00:48:22,920 Speaker 3: Well, I would be open to them doing a satellite Okay. 820 00:48:22,640 --> 00:48:23,200 Speaker 1: I'm certain. 821 00:48:23,360 --> 00:48:23,600 Speaker 3: Yes. 822 00:48:23,680 --> 00:48:25,719 Speaker 1: My question is how do they reach you. 823 00:48:25,760 --> 00:48:28,680 Speaker 3: They can donate on our website, same place yep, same 824 00:48:28,680 --> 00:48:33,440 Speaker 3: place forward yep, click donate and if they're going to. 825 00:48:33,480 --> 00:48:35,640 Speaker 1: Give a million, they should just they can call me. 826 00:48:35,880 --> 00:48:37,719 Speaker 3: Yeah, they can cut my numbers on the website. They 827 00:48:37,760 --> 00:48:38,279 Speaker 3: can call me. 828 00:48:38,440 --> 00:48:39,439 Speaker 1: Yeah, I think that's good. 829 00:48:39,560 --> 00:48:41,640 Speaker 3: Yeah, they can call me. We do a lot of 830 00:48:41,920 --> 00:48:45,200 Speaker 3: family foundations definitely, like donor advise funds, all of that, 831 00:48:45,640 --> 00:48:49,480 Speaker 3: and then also listeners. I love at events talking about 832 00:48:49,480 --> 00:48:51,960 Speaker 3: our hope builders. So we have monthly donors. We've but 833 00:48:52,040 --> 00:48:56,040 Speaker 3: one hundred and seventy some monthly donors bring in one 834 00:48:56,120 --> 00:48:58,680 Speaker 3: hundred and thirty thousand dollars a year for us and 835 00:48:58,760 --> 00:48:59,600 Speaker 3: that and those. 836 00:48:59,480 --> 00:49:01,480 Speaker 1: Are probably the ten and twenty dollars. 837 00:49:01,520 --> 00:49:04,240 Speaker 3: We have anywhere from ten to five hundred dollars a month. 838 00:49:04,400 --> 00:49:07,000 Speaker 1: Really, it's fabulous. 839 00:49:06,400 --> 00:49:08,960 Speaker 3: And it's amazing because we have someone on our staff, Morgan, 840 00:49:09,000 --> 00:49:12,759 Speaker 3: she's incredible who manages our Hope Builders, and so it's 841 00:49:12,800 --> 00:49:14,960 Speaker 3: a good way to stay engaged because you're getting a 842 00:49:15,000 --> 00:49:18,560 Speaker 3: monthly email. You're getting you know, I mean one of 843 00:49:18,560 --> 00:49:21,560 Speaker 3: our Hope Builders lost her dad here recently. I saw, 844 00:49:21,640 --> 00:49:23,600 Speaker 3: so I like made sure Morgan knew that. And so 845 00:49:23,719 --> 00:49:27,120 Speaker 3: we really care for our hope Builders too because they're 846 00:49:27,160 --> 00:49:33,319 Speaker 3: so invested. So any type of donor, my goal is 847 00:49:33,360 --> 00:49:35,560 Speaker 3: to bring them closer to Christ. And I know someone 848 00:49:35,640 --> 00:49:38,280 Speaker 3: listening to this that's like, I don't even know Jesus 849 00:49:38,480 --> 00:49:41,480 Speaker 3: might feel like this is kind of she's she's like 850 00:49:41,920 --> 00:49:44,960 Speaker 3: a little Jesus freak or something. I don't know. There's 851 00:49:45,000 --> 00:49:48,239 Speaker 3: a lot of faith aspect of it, but but you know, 852 00:49:48,320 --> 00:49:50,799 Speaker 3: they might be like I don't even like, you know, 853 00:49:50,840 --> 00:49:52,719 Speaker 3: if you didn't grow up in church and grow up 854 00:49:52,760 --> 00:49:55,120 Speaker 3: with a faith and don't know Jesus, you might be like, 855 00:49:55,160 --> 00:49:58,160 Speaker 3: I don't even know. And so we someone asked me, 856 00:49:58,280 --> 00:50:00,480 Speaker 3: you know, do you only serve believers or and it's 857 00:50:00,520 --> 00:50:03,120 Speaker 3: like no, I mean, we're of course not. We don't 858 00:50:03,120 --> 00:50:05,640 Speaker 3: even know what they look like, or we know their address, 859 00:50:05,719 --> 00:50:09,520 Speaker 3: so we do know where they're from. But it doesn't matter, 860 00:50:09,640 --> 00:50:13,439 Speaker 3: like I wouldn't. I don't care anything your political view. 861 00:50:13,440 --> 00:50:16,319 Speaker 3: I don't care anything about you. That's the cool thing 862 00:50:16,320 --> 00:50:18,160 Speaker 3: about what we do. It doesn't even matter how much 863 00:50:18,200 --> 00:50:20,960 Speaker 3: you could be super wealthy, and we serve you. So 864 00:50:21,000 --> 00:50:24,239 Speaker 3: that's what I love about Faithful Restored is none of 865 00:50:24,239 --> 00:50:26,640 Speaker 3: that matters, doesn't matter if you're a believer, doesn't matter 866 00:50:27,080 --> 00:50:29,640 Speaker 3: what side of the aisle you're on, Like, we're here 867 00:50:29,680 --> 00:50:33,600 Speaker 3: to love you. We love you because of our hope 868 00:50:33,640 --> 00:50:37,560 Speaker 3: in Jesus. But if you don't believe in Jesus, that's 869 00:50:37,600 --> 00:50:40,080 Speaker 3: okay too, Like we're gonna we're gonna love you like 870 00:50:40,520 --> 00:50:41,120 Speaker 3: He loves you. 871 00:50:41,640 --> 00:50:42,399 Speaker 1: So one of the thing I. 872 00:50:42,320 --> 00:50:45,200 Speaker 4: Want to say is even for listeners who aren't Christian, 873 00:50:45,840 --> 00:50:47,960 Speaker 4: they don't have to serve in the way that you've served. 874 00:50:47,960 --> 00:50:50,959 Speaker 4: But your example of being present for people is something 875 00:50:51,000 --> 00:50:52,960 Speaker 4: that everybody can learn from you if they do it. 876 00:50:53,120 --> 00:50:57,040 Speaker 1: Absolutely, there's no doubt. There's an example here of the 877 00:50:57,040 --> 00:51:00,799 Speaker 1: importance of just being the I don A piece of 878 00:51:00,840 --> 00:51:04,680 Speaker 1: redemption I think is does your mom not work with you? 879 00:51:04,960 --> 00:51:05,160 Speaker 3: Yes? 880 00:51:05,719 --> 00:51:06,480 Speaker 1: So crazy? 881 00:51:06,560 --> 00:51:11,400 Speaker 3: Oh it is so sweet. Yeah, it is really sweet. 882 00:51:11,440 --> 00:51:13,560 Speaker 3: She actually now comes in the office once a week 883 00:51:14,200 --> 00:51:17,520 Speaker 3: and she does all of our finances, so she's on 884 00:51:17,600 --> 00:51:21,000 Speaker 3: people about receipts and turning and all this stuff and donors. 885 00:51:21,040 --> 00:51:23,479 Speaker 3: She'll get to know some donors and stuff, and it's 886 00:51:24,360 --> 00:51:29,040 Speaker 3: it is really sweet. She's super proud, and it's just 887 00:51:29,080 --> 00:51:30,120 Speaker 3: a very. 888 00:51:30,160 --> 00:51:32,480 Speaker 1: How ironic the product you are looking for from your 889 00:51:32,480 --> 00:51:35,120 Speaker 1: father ends up coming from your mother, who you thought abandoned. 890 00:51:35,200 --> 00:51:39,040 Speaker 3: Right, Absolutely, just a true story of redemption. 891 00:51:39,560 --> 00:51:47,879 Speaker 1: It is Jamie. Wow, what an amazing legacy that your 892 00:51:47,960 --> 00:51:54,279 Speaker 1: father and William allowed you to. I think that I 893 00:51:54,320 --> 00:52:00,640 Speaker 1: think that you were well prepared and conditioned the struggles 894 00:52:00,640 --> 00:52:03,080 Speaker 1: in your life to do exactly what you're doing now. 895 00:52:05,040 --> 00:52:08,640 Speaker 1: I think your father and your son's legacy, ironically, one 896 00:52:08,719 --> 00:52:12,000 Speaker 1: generation on either side of you, lives on through your work. 897 00:52:12,960 --> 00:52:13,640 Speaker 1: Little blessing. 898 00:52:14,440 --> 00:52:17,040 Speaker 3: Thanks for giving me the opportunity to share. 899 00:52:18,360 --> 00:52:20,759 Speaker 1: It's been my honor and I have a safe trip 900 00:52:20,800 --> 00:52:23,920 Speaker 1: going home. And Daniel, if you're listening, dude, you got 901 00:52:23,920 --> 00:52:27,279 Speaker 1: a job. It's all good, bro. Thanks for being here. 902 00:52:27,320 --> 00:52:31,239 Speaker 3: Thank you so much, and thank you for joining us 903 00:52:31,239 --> 00:52:31,680 Speaker 3: this week. 904 00:52:31,880 --> 00:52:35,759 Speaker 1: Yes, Sophia, thank you for joining me this week. If 905 00:52:35,840 --> 00:52:38,799 Speaker 1: Jamie Hurd has inspired you, in general, or better yet, 906 00:52:38,840 --> 00:52:43,320 Speaker 1: to take action by volunteering with or donating to Faithfully Restored, 907 00:52:43,800 --> 00:52:46,960 Speaker 1: submitting a prayer request to them, doing something like it 908 00:52:47,000 --> 00:52:51,560 Speaker 1: in your community, or something else entirely. Please let me 909 00:52:51,640 --> 00:52:54,960 Speaker 1: and Sophia know we'd love to hear about it. You 910 00:52:55,000 --> 00:52:58,799 Speaker 1: can write me anytime at Bill at normal folks dot us, 911 00:52:58,840 --> 00:53:02,440 Speaker 1: and I promise you I'll will respond. 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