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Speaker 1: Thanks for watching, guys. Today's episode is brought to you

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Speaker 1: Today's guest has built the career of telling it like

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Speaker 1: it is. From beauty standards to dating to motherhood. She

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Speaker 2: Is entirely her own.

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Speaker 1: From making history as the first woman to film a

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Speaker 1: comedy special at Radio City Music Hall, that's right, that's

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Speaker 1: pretty cool. Thank you so much. To adapting her best

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Speaker 1: the Thing Is, she is now back for her third

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Speaker 2: Please welcome Michelle. Also, I gotta tell you what, It's

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Speaker 1: Say best selling book, Yeah, but somebody's best selling book.

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Speaker 2: But I love that people think it's the best selling

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Speaker 2: That's like, I can't wait to have sex. I hope

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Speaker 1: You have sex and don't have an orgasm. Are you disappointed? No,

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Speaker 2: Set I got an emotional seatbelt. I know the sound

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Speaker 2: I also like, you don't do something for a list,

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Speaker 1: I said this to Brittany before we came in, and

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Speaker 1: twenty thirteen. We were Wendy Williams. No, we were both

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that I get for sure. And shit, yeah, I'm

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Speaker 2: have the life that you want, you know, that's like,

435
00:22:12,760 --> 00:22:14,400
Speaker 2: but still making it funny.

436
00:22:14,560 --> 00:22:17,879
Speaker 1: Still making it funny, and still making the characters whole. Yeah,

437
00:22:18,119 --> 00:22:20,000
Speaker 1: you know, we were talking about that earlier about the show.

438
00:22:20,040 --> 00:22:22,879
Speaker 1: It's like there's been there's been lots of shows and

439
00:22:23,760 --> 00:22:26,639
Speaker 1: people who have been public about especially just like you know,

440
00:22:27,000 --> 00:22:31,159
Speaker 1: wait and body shaming inside. But I feel like the

441
00:22:31,880 --> 00:22:34,960
Speaker 1: way you guys do it is so it's not the

442
00:22:35,000 --> 00:22:38,760
Speaker 1: main it's not the headline. Yeah it's in there, yes,

443
00:22:39,359 --> 00:22:41,960
Speaker 1: but it's not. It's just part of the story. It's

444
00:22:42,000 --> 00:22:44,720
Speaker 1: not necessarily like and it's not done in a way

445
00:22:44,760 --> 00:22:49,639
Speaker 1: where it's like condescending. You know. Sometimes people Yes, I

446
00:22:49,680 --> 00:22:51,439
Speaker 1: don't know if I'm saying this right, you are.

447
00:22:51,600 --> 00:22:54,879
Speaker 2: No things back to when you're on set, because you

448
00:22:54,880 --> 00:22:57,639
Speaker 2: know it's such like a New York moment for to

449
00:22:57,720 --> 00:23:00,000
Speaker 2: like go on like a very popular like radio show

450
00:23:00,280 --> 00:23:02,960
Speaker 2: podcast and go in the lines then and think it's

451
00:23:02,960 --> 00:23:03,600
Speaker 2: gonna be one thing.

452
00:23:03,800 --> 00:23:07,679
Speaker 1: I loved coming to that show. Those of you have

453
00:23:07,760 --> 00:23:11,879
Speaker 1: not seen my episode. It was two I played. I

454
00:23:12,000 --> 00:23:16,600
Speaker 1: played on the Dawn the podcast host, and you were

455
00:23:16,600 --> 00:23:18,760
Speaker 1: the guests, and I had the little gotcha moment on

456
00:23:18,800 --> 00:23:21,080
Speaker 1: the show. It was so it was so much fun,

457
00:23:21,200 --> 00:23:27,159
Speaker 1: and the cast, so many women on sets. Yes, you

458
00:23:27,200 --> 00:23:30,040
Speaker 1: could just tell that the love was poured into this

459
00:23:30,119 --> 00:23:32,200
Speaker 1: project if you could feel it on set.

460
00:23:32,440 --> 00:23:34,520
Speaker 2: Oh good, I'm so glad you felt that. And I

461
00:23:34,560 --> 00:23:35,240
Speaker 2: hated leaving.

462
00:23:35,400 --> 00:23:38,000
Speaker 1: I was only there. I was only one there, and

463
00:23:38,040 --> 00:23:40,440
Speaker 1: I wasn't like enough right YouTube grit. We were there

464
00:23:40,440 --> 00:23:41,760
Speaker 1: and we were like, we want to come back here

465
00:23:41,800 --> 00:23:45,600
Speaker 1: every day, and so I can only imagine for you, yeah,

466
00:23:45,640 --> 00:23:47,960
Speaker 1: god to be. Was it like that all the time

467
00:23:48,040 --> 00:23:50,120
Speaker 1: or did we just have an incredible experience out all

468
00:23:50,160 --> 00:23:54,920
Speaker 1: the time since day one? Well? Fun, fun, funny, collaborative.

469
00:23:54,920 --> 00:23:58,280
Speaker 1: Everybody there wants to be there, Yes, everybody has your back.

470
00:23:58,359 --> 00:23:59,880
Speaker 1: How do we make it better? This is a long

471
00:24:00,040 --> 00:24:02,480
Speaker 1: day let's do this together type. It's how do you

472
00:24:02,560 --> 00:24:06,320
Speaker 1: create that world, that environment of people that feel that way?

473
00:24:06,520 --> 00:24:08,679
Speaker 2: You just you are that way, right, Like like it

474
00:24:08,680 --> 00:24:10,399
Speaker 2: starts from the top, and I'm number one on the

475
00:24:10,440 --> 00:24:12,840
Speaker 2: call sheet, you know, the co creator of the show

476
00:24:12,880 --> 00:24:17,760
Speaker 2: and stirring in it. And so you know, you know

477
00:24:17,840 --> 00:24:20,800
Speaker 2: what is that saying, happy wife, happy life? Yeah, I'm

478
00:24:20,800 --> 00:24:24,520
Speaker 2: the wife. And yes, we could talk about weight and

479
00:24:24,560 --> 00:24:27,959
Speaker 2: fat phobia, transphobia and and all that stuff and like

480
00:24:28,080 --> 00:24:31,439
Speaker 2: gender bending fuckery and all that stuff, but like, we

481
00:24:31,520 --> 00:24:33,879
Speaker 2: are so much more than our size, We are so

482
00:24:34,000 --> 00:24:37,080
Speaker 2: much more than our shape and our shade and all that.

483
00:24:37,600 --> 00:24:41,560
Speaker 2: But we are also very much stronger together. And so

484
00:24:41,680 --> 00:24:43,639
Speaker 2: I'm like, how do we do it? Like, how do

485
00:24:43,720 --> 00:24:46,560
Speaker 2: we address it but still keep it moving? You know,

486
00:24:47,080 --> 00:24:49,520
Speaker 2: don't sit in it? And that's the thing about comedy too,

487
00:24:49,760 --> 00:24:53,160
Speaker 2: and also like live just a live space. It's timing.

488
00:24:53,359 --> 00:24:55,240
Speaker 2: You know, you got to hit it and move on,

489
00:24:56,280 --> 00:24:58,040
Speaker 2: you know, hit it and quit it, move on. Why

490
00:24:58,040 --> 00:25:00,520
Speaker 2: are we sitting here? Yes, you know, because then you

491
00:25:00,560 --> 00:25:04,200
Speaker 2: become you're serving just this one thing. Really, if you're

492
00:25:04,240 --> 00:25:05,160
Speaker 2: doing that, you're.

493
00:25:04,960 --> 00:25:09,440
Speaker 1: Probably doing it for everyone else because authentically to you, yes,

494
00:25:09,960 --> 00:25:12,080
Speaker 1: you're not sitting around thinking about that all night.

495
00:25:12,560 --> 00:25:15,080
Speaker 2: I'm trying to sit and spin on somebody, well my husband,

496
00:25:15,080 --> 00:25:19,959
Speaker 2: but still and also like also like, you know, you

497
00:25:19,960 --> 00:25:22,640
Speaker 2: have to be confident in what you're saying. Yeah, say

498
00:25:22,640 --> 00:25:24,160
Speaker 2: the thing and move on.

499
00:25:24,320 --> 00:25:25,240
Speaker 1: You know. It's like when I.

500
00:25:25,160 --> 00:25:27,240
Speaker 2: First started to stand up, everybody was like, oh, we

501
00:25:27,320 --> 00:25:28,600
Speaker 2: got We're gonna switch it up.

502
00:25:28,640 --> 00:25:31,879
Speaker 1: Now we got a female coming to the stage. That

503
00:25:32,080 --> 00:25:32,800
Speaker 1: means a lady.

504
00:25:33,320 --> 00:25:35,720
Speaker 2: It was like, why are you doing this whole biology?

505
00:25:35,760 --> 00:25:41,080
Speaker 2: What do we They could tell you, Oh, no, we

506
00:25:41,160 --> 00:25:44,040
Speaker 2: gotta move on. You ain't got to say Michelle, you tawe.

507
00:25:44,600 --> 00:25:47,280
Speaker 1: We got a lady, was switch it up. It's like,

508
00:25:47,800 --> 00:25:50,800
Speaker 1: just get me on the stage up, say the thing

509
00:25:50,840 --> 00:25:53,719
Speaker 1: and move on. The thing's my name, move on, you

510
00:25:53,760 --> 00:25:55,720
Speaker 1: know what I mean. So it's like that, It's like,

511
00:25:55,760 --> 00:25:59,560
Speaker 1: say the thing and move on. Such a good job

512
00:25:59,600 --> 00:26:06,240
Speaker 1: at it. Just speaking of sitting on your husband, you

513
00:26:06,320 --> 00:26:07,560
Speaker 1: clearly like sitting on your husband.

514
00:26:07,600 --> 00:26:11,280
Speaker 2: You've made it sixteen years. Yeah, that's pretty great. Yeah,

515
00:26:11,320 --> 00:26:13,600
Speaker 2: and he's so great, Like, I just love a man

516
00:26:13,680 --> 00:26:15,760
Speaker 2: that just loves me down. Holy, lets me sit on

517
00:26:15,760 --> 00:26:16,160
Speaker 2: his face.

518
00:26:17,320 --> 00:26:31,240
Speaker 1: That's so sweet. I like that. That was good, so sweet.

519
00:26:32,000 --> 00:26:36,480
Speaker 1: Look sweet I love that for you. I love that

520
00:26:36,520 --> 00:26:39,840
Speaker 1: for you. Yeah, I really like him. I like him.

521
00:26:40,359 --> 00:26:43,280
Speaker 1: Oh my god, that's the best. You know what's so

522
00:26:43,359 --> 00:26:46,960
Speaker 1: fascinating about this to me? Why what you started? Yeah,

523
00:26:47,000 --> 00:26:50,320
Speaker 1: this was a one night stand. Yes, this is not

524
00:26:50,440 --> 00:26:54,120
Speaker 1: how normally the story goes. See, this is the problem.

525
00:26:54,160 --> 00:26:57,040
Speaker 1: You set off false expectations. So then women think, oh,

526
00:26:57,080 --> 00:26:59,560
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go have this one night stand. It'll probably

527
00:26:59,560 --> 00:27:02,000
Speaker 1: be my hu it's been for sixteen years. Don't think that. Well,

528
00:27:04,280 --> 00:27:06,040
Speaker 1: I didn't say all that. I didn't write a book

529
00:27:06,040 --> 00:27:07,760
Speaker 1: for it to be like a New York Times bestseller.

530
00:27:07,800 --> 00:27:09,920
Speaker 1: I just wrote a book, right, you know, just love

531
00:27:09,920 --> 00:27:10,680
Speaker 1: into it.

532
00:27:10,680 --> 00:27:12,840
Speaker 2: It's whatever it is. I liked a really nice one.

533
00:27:12,920 --> 00:27:15,120
Speaker 1: I stand like I like you know, all the love

534
00:27:15,119 --> 00:27:17,000
Speaker 1: you put in a relationship or putting one. I stand.

535
00:27:17,040 --> 00:27:19,080
Speaker 1: Were you a one nice saying girl? Or was this

536
00:27:19,200 --> 00:27:21,720
Speaker 1: like a rare Did my mom ask you to ask that?

537
00:27:21,840 --> 00:27:25,199
Speaker 1: She did? She did? She called? Or was this the

538
00:27:25,240 --> 00:27:27,879
Speaker 1: first time you'd ever had one and it just so happened?

539
00:27:27,920 --> 00:27:30,240
Speaker 1: He was? He was the one, Miss ma'am. Okay, But

540
00:27:30,280 --> 00:27:33,560
Speaker 1: I'm just saying, miss ma'am, okay, you've seen the hips.

541
00:27:33,680 --> 00:27:36,680
Speaker 2: They don't lie no, this is yeah, it just so happened.

542
00:27:37,119 --> 00:27:39,280
Speaker 2: So yeah, it was like musical chairs, but with dix

543
00:27:42,440 --> 00:27:45,000
Speaker 2: and then you saddled the right one and then I won.

544
00:27:45,359 --> 00:27:49,240
Speaker 1: Good for you, Thank you so much. What was the thing.

545
00:27:49,280 --> 00:27:52,159
Speaker 1: How did you know this was the right chair? I didn't.

546
00:27:52,280 --> 00:27:56,199
Speaker 2: I just felt safe and I was forty. Now, you know,

547
00:27:56,920 --> 00:27:59,359
Speaker 2: I didn't just wake up one day and say I

548
00:27:59,440 --> 00:28:03,679
Speaker 2: am fan of one night stands like I had. I

549
00:28:03,720 --> 00:28:06,600
Speaker 2: took life way too seriously when I was younger. I

550
00:28:06,640 --> 00:28:08,480
Speaker 2: wanted to wait till I was married to have sex.

551
00:28:09,640 --> 00:28:14,719
Speaker 2: And I had like very serious boyfriends in high school

552
00:28:14,800 --> 00:28:17,359
Speaker 2: and college that both cheated on me, and I was

553
00:28:17,440 --> 00:28:20,479
Speaker 2: like torn up. And in high school it was like

554
00:28:20,560 --> 00:28:22,879
Speaker 2: a really good friend, one of my best friends, and

555
00:28:22,960 --> 00:28:25,320
Speaker 2: so I was like torn up. And so what I

556
00:28:25,320 --> 00:28:27,840
Speaker 2: see my friends going through in their forties and fifties

557
00:28:28,440 --> 00:28:29,639
Speaker 2: getting a divorce.

558
00:28:29,320 --> 00:28:31,679
Speaker 1: It's like what I went through. I was listening to

559
00:28:31,680 --> 00:28:34,359
Speaker 1: Anita Baker and all types of stuff at like sixteen seventeen,

560
00:28:34,720 --> 00:28:36,200
Speaker 1: I should have had a bob and a cigarette and

561
00:28:36,200 --> 00:28:39,200
Speaker 1: being like, you know, I was waiting to exail in

562
00:28:39,640 --> 00:28:40,240
Speaker 1: high school.

563
00:28:41,280 --> 00:28:44,880
Speaker 2: It was horrible, but I wouldn't trade it for anything.

564
00:28:44,960 --> 00:28:48,000
Speaker 2: Now on the other side because I kind of like

565
00:28:48,320 --> 00:28:56,800
Speaker 2: was Benjamin Button with like dating and so in college,

566
00:28:56,800 --> 00:28:59,040
Speaker 2: I also was like, we should get married and I

567
00:28:59,080 --> 00:29:01,080
Speaker 2: love you and I have your back and your family's

568
00:29:01,120 --> 00:29:03,320
Speaker 2: my family. And then when he cheated on me, I

569
00:29:03,360 --> 00:29:08,600
Speaker 2: was like, maybe I just do me. And I didn't

570
00:29:08,680 --> 00:29:10,920
Speaker 2: like dating. I like doing stand up. I like working,

571
00:29:10,920 --> 00:29:11,760
Speaker 2: I like making money.

572
00:29:11,800 --> 00:29:12,480
Speaker 1: I like doing me.

573
00:29:13,320 --> 00:29:17,360
Speaker 2: And that's how I met him. Wow, because I didn't

574
00:29:17,400 --> 00:29:19,760
Speaker 2: have the expectation of this is a date.

575
00:29:20,240 --> 00:29:20,800
Speaker 1: What do you do?

576
00:29:20,840 --> 00:29:22,240
Speaker 2: Where are you from, what's your job? What do you

577
00:29:22,240 --> 00:29:25,840
Speaker 2: want to do? I felt like I'm a manager on

578
00:29:25,960 --> 00:29:27,920
Speaker 2: LinkedIn looking for an employee when I was dating, and

579
00:29:27,960 --> 00:29:30,120
Speaker 2: I was like, I want to hang out with my friends,

580
00:29:30,760 --> 00:29:33,000
Speaker 2: you know, let loose, order half the menu, get a

581
00:29:33,040 --> 00:29:35,880
Speaker 2: little tipsy, talk shit, you know, to work a little

582
00:29:35,920 --> 00:29:39,440
Speaker 2: bit of home, you know. And again I love stand

583
00:29:39,520 --> 00:29:42,840
Speaker 2: up and I felt like there was no dating is

584
00:29:42,880 --> 00:29:45,480
Speaker 2: like a second job. Now you should go out on

585
00:29:45,600 --> 00:29:46,920
Speaker 2: dates if that's your thing.

586
00:29:47,080 --> 00:29:47,360
Speaker 1: Do that.

587
00:29:47,480 --> 00:29:49,600
Speaker 2: I think you should go out on dates with people

588
00:29:49,600 --> 00:29:51,479
Speaker 2: because you have to see how they act in public.

589
00:29:54,240 --> 00:30:00,440
Speaker 2: Do they have manners? How do they treat the white staff? Yeah?

590
00:30:00,640 --> 00:30:02,800
Speaker 1: Do they chew like a cow? Oh?

591
00:30:02,960 --> 00:30:08,640
Speaker 2: You know, problematic, gross, actually gross, like no table manners.

592
00:30:08,880 --> 00:30:10,280
Speaker 2: I can't put my face in your crutched.

593
00:30:10,600 --> 00:30:13,680
Speaker 1: You know what's so funny is that I've said this before.

594
00:30:13,840 --> 00:30:16,360
Speaker 1: I've thought this before, Like, I don't think people prepare

595
00:30:17,000 --> 00:30:20,960
Speaker 1: young people for heartbreak at that level. Yeah, and we

596
00:30:21,000 --> 00:30:22,440
Speaker 1: all like, oh, in my high school, I got my

597
00:30:22,480 --> 00:30:23,800
Speaker 1: heart broken, and you say it like it's a no

598
00:30:23,840 --> 00:30:25,280
Speaker 1: big deal. So if I'm in high school and I

599
00:30:25,320 --> 00:30:27,520
Speaker 1: see that, I think, oh, it's no big deal. I

600
00:30:27,520 --> 00:30:30,400
Speaker 1: think when it happens to a young person, yeah, so

601
00:30:31,680 --> 00:30:35,560
Speaker 1: intensely like that. Yeah, they're not really prepared for it,

602
00:30:35,880 --> 00:30:37,600
Speaker 1: and it shapes you. It shapes you.

603
00:30:37,800 --> 00:30:41,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, because what I remember is life as I knew.

604
00:30:41,880 --> 00:30:44,600
Speaker 2: It was completely different.

605
00:30:44,920 --> 00:30:47,400
Speaker 1: The next day. So you were all in.

606
00:30:47,720 --> 00:30:48,280
Speaker 2: I was all in.

607
00:30:48,360 --> 00:30:51,360
Speaker 1: You believed the fairy tale or the not fairy tale.

608
00:30:51,560 --> 00:30:53,360
Speaker 1: You believe, Yeah, I guess fairy tale.

609
00:30:53,680 --> 00:30:56,360
Speaker 2: But I believed people. I didn't think people could lie

610
00:30:56,360 --> 00:30:59,240
Speaker 2: to me. I believe people like he was my Sannah,

611
00:30:59,480 --> 00:31:03,280
Speaker 2: Like I believe him, like I also was like converting

612
00:31:03,320 --> 00:31:09,440
Speaker 2: to Islam for him, like I believed him. And then

613
00:31:09,480 --> 00:31:12,800
Speaker 2: I realized, oh, people can lie. And outside of that,

614
00:31:12,880 --> 00:31:14,040
Speaker 2: I realized.

615
00:31:15,240 --> 00:31:15,960
Speaker 1: People lie.

616
00:31:16,080 --> 00:31:19,280
Speaker 2: But that's because they're lying to themselves. They want to

617
00:31:19,280 --> 00:31:21,640
Speaker 2: be the version of the person that they want to be,

618
00:31:21,680 --> 00:31:24,000
Speaker 2: but don't know how to do it truthfully, and that

619
00:31:24,040 --> 00:31:26,920
Speaker 2: means having hard conversations and also maybe not liking yourself

620
00:31:26,960 --> 00:31:32,040
Speaker 2: for a little bit. And then I realized after that, like, oh,

621
00:31:32,080 --> 00:31:35,120
Speaker 2: this is about you, not me. I have to like

622
00:31:37,120 --> 00:31:42,000
Speaker 2: be my most authentic self because if I'm trying to

623
00:31:42,080 --> 00:31:46,720
Speaker 2: make you happy, then I'm also lying and I'm like,

624
00:31:46,760 --> 00:31:48,600
Speaker 2: I'm not doing that.

625
00:31:48,600 --> 00:31:53,320
Speaker 1: That experience, though, sometimes could make women not trust again,

626
00:31:53,560 --> 00:31:55,960
Speaker 1: or it be hard to jump into a relationship or

627
00:31:55,960 --> 00:31:59,360
Speaker 1: a marriage or yes, but you decided to at some

628
00:31:59,400 --> 00:32:01,960
Speaker 1: point your husb and I guess convinced you or I mean,

629
00:32:02,200 --> 00:32:03,000
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna lie.

630
00:32:03,080 --> 00:32:05,680
Speaker 2: Like it was long distance for a very long time,

631
00:32:05,920 --> 00:32:08,560
Speaker 2: for almost two years, and I didn't even know where

632
00:32:08,600 --> 00:32:09,920
Speaker 2: Holland was on a map.

633
00:32:09,760 --> 00:32:09,920
Speaker 1: So.

634
00:32:11,520 --> 00:32:13,320
Speaker 2: I was like, how do I trust this guy? I

635
00:32:13,360 --> 00:32:16,680
Speaker 2: don't even know how to say his name, Like you know,

636
00:32:16,760 --> 00:32:20,440
Speaker 2: I'm like, fly, we're doing long distance. And Holland is

637
00:32:20,480 --> 00:32:23,920
Speaker 2: also very different too, because like you know, it's not

638
00:32:24,040 --> 00:32:27,000
Speaker 2: as like there is not as how do I describe

639
00:32:27,000 --> 00:32:29,880
Speaker 2: it like sexual there, Like there isn't this emphasis on

640
00:32:30,080 --> 00:32:34,920
Speaker 2: like sexuality, yes, and misogyny and stuff, so like even

641
00:32:34,960 --> 00:32:37,680
Speaker 2: the spas are co ed, like bodies are just bodies

642
00:32:37,960 --> 00:32:40,680
Speaker 2: and people are just like friends with people, and I'm like,

643
00:32:40,800 --> 00:32:44,200
Speaker 2: you're you are friends with your exit. That's weird. But

644
00:32:44,240 --> 00:32:46,760
Speaker 2: it's a smaller country and so you just gotta know

645
00:32:46,800 --> 00:32:49,680
Speaker 2: who you gonna know. And I'm like, okay, so it

646
00:32:49,720 --> 00:32:54,480
Speaker 2: took me a long time to like fully trust him,

647
00:32:54,720 --> 00:32:57,320
Speaker 2: but bigger picture, like the process of giving your heart

648
00:32:57,360 --> 00:33:00,360
Speaker 2: to someone, but I'm glad I did because it worked out.

649
00:33:01,040 --> 00:33:03,200
Speaker 2: You know, there was a choice where I was like,

650
00:33:03,280 --> 00:33:06,640
Speaker 2: I could be upset about all this, but I know

651
00:33:07,280 --> 00:33:09,920
Speaker 2: I'm amazing, So why am I feeding into this like

652
00:33:10,640 --> 00:33:15,080
Speaker 2: jealousy bullshit? And I don't want to be jealous. That's

653
00:33:15,080 --> 00:33:17,520
Speaker 2: like road rage is such a wasted emotion and it's

654
00:33:17,560 --> 00:33:22,560
Speaker 2: like for what and for who and at some moment

655
00:33:23,520 --> 00:33:26,160
Speaker 2: and looking in his eyes and believing him and knowing

656
00:33:26,160 --> 00:33:30,000
Speaker 2: how I felt about him, I'm like, jealousy really doesn't

657
00:33:30,040 --> 00:33:33,000
Speaker 2: serve me. And it's really like a thing that happens

658
00:33:33,000 --> 00:33:36,920
Speaker 2: when people haven't realized their power yet. And I'm like, bitch,

659
00:33:36,960 --> 00:33:40,280
Speaker 2: realize your power. Like you guys are good together. Oh,

660
00:33:40,760 --> 00:33:43,000
Speaker 2: you know. Yes, it's important.

661
00:33:43,040 --> 00:33:46,120
Speaker 1: It's important to naming the bad stuff, Like, maybe should

662
00:33:46,320 --> 00:33:48,080
Speaker 1: just make a story about this. I feel like this

663
00:33:48,120 --> 00:33:51,920
Speaker 1: could be like your next show. No give him the

664
00:33:52,000 --> 00:33:56,920
Speaker 1: stuff to do does not show in time?

665
00:33:57,040 --> 00:33:59,320
Speaker 2: All right, okay, you have nothing? You have a plan

666
00:33:59,520 --> 00:34:03,720
Speaker 2: after the show? No, no, I don't.

667
00:34:04,160 --> 00:34:07,479
Speaker 1: You don't, I don't when the show is over, I

668
00:34:07,520 --> 00:34:09,560
Speaker 1: don't know the show is over, right, But you're still

669
00:34:09,560 --> 00:34:12,280
Speaker 1: promoting it. You're still in, You're still yeah.

670
00:34:12,080 --> 00:34:16,960
Speaker 2: I'm still definitely like connected and yeah, yeah, promoting it,

671
00:34:17,640 --> 00:34:20,120
Speaker 2: but I don't usually I have a follow up right away.

672
00:34:20,200 --> 00:34:23,080
Speaker 2: But this took so much out of me, especially like

673
00:34:23,440 --> 00:34:29,600
Speaker 2: directing a very personal episode that I'm I've decided to

674
00:34:29,640 --> 00:34:33,240
Speaker 2: give myself time to enjoy and also rest and heal

675
00:34:34,480 --> 00:34:38,640
Speaker 2: from this whole process. Good for you, yeah, because jumping

676
00:34:38,680 --> 00:34:42,400
Speaker 2: into like very dark traumatic moments in your life for

677
00:34:42,640 --> 00:34:47,880
Speaker 2: art can be dangerous. And kim Win, one of my directors,

678
00:34:48,480 --> 00:34:51,920
Speaker 2: you know, she was like, be careful because once you

679
00:34:52,040 --> 00:34:55,480
Speaker 2: hit that other side sometimes it's hard to like come back.

680
00:34:55,840 --> 00:34:58,279
Speaker 2: And so I remember that going in, and when I

681
00:34:58,320 --> 00:35:00,120
Speaker 2: tapped into it, I was like, oh, I get it,

682
00:35:00,120 --> 00:35:02,839
Speaker 2: because for three days I was just crying. Wow, and

683
00:35:02,880 --> 00:35:04,399
Speaker 2: I would be ordering my lunch.

684
00:35:04,480 --> 00:35:16,960
Speaker 1: I'm like aspectus and generous, but everyone's like, okay, got it, Okay, Yeah,

685
00:35:17,040 --> 00:35:18,480
Speaker 1: I don't know what this is the personal thing. I

686
00:35:18,520 --> 00:35:19,960
Speaker 1: don't even know if I need to talk about it,

687
00:35:20,000 --> 00:35:21,560
Speaker 1: but I will share this because you just said it

688
00:35:21,560 --> 00:35:24,360
Speaker 1: to me. I just had an experience, and now I

689
00:35:24,440 --> 00:35:26,319
Speaker 1: understand why based on what you just told me.

690
00:35:26,360 --> 00:35:27,840
Speaker 2: I didn't know what was happening to me. So I

691
00:35:27,880 --> 00:35:29,319
Speaker 2: did a documentary like a year ago.

692
00:35:29,320 --> 00:35:33,240
Speaker 1: It was my first directing, my first thing, and my friend,

693
00:35:33,400 --> 00:35:34,960
Speaker 1: the person I directed was a friend of mine, and

694
00:35:34,960 --> 00:35:38,160
Speaker 1: he was telling me about this experience of making this

695
00:35:38,280 --> 00:35:42,759
Speaker 1: song he made Brooklyn's Finus Jason Clark Clark Kent DJ

696
00:35:42,800 --> 00:35:44,600
Speaker 1: Clark Kent. Right. So I'm working on a documentary with

697
00:35:44,680 --> 00:35:47,279
Speaker 1: him for like a year directing it, and he's telling

698
00:35:47,280 --> 00:35:49,560
Speaker 1: me about the making of Brooklyn's Finance, bringing jay Z

699
00:35:49,719 --> 00:35:51,840
Speaker 1: and Biggie in and the day he did this and

700
00:35:52,480 --> 00:35:55,240
Speaker 1: the how he tricked them to be in the studio together.

701
00:35:55,400 --> 00:35:58,680
Speaker 1: So I could I actually, I'm now realizing what happens

702
00:35:58,719 --> 00:36:03,520
Speaker 1: to me. I took I had it inside me, the story,

703
00:36:03,640 --> 00:36:06,040
Speaker 1: overtelling the story so many times that I almost could

704
00:36:06,080 --> 00:36:08,720
Speaker 1: see it. I can almost be present in the making

705
00:36:08,760 --> 00:36:10,360
Speaker 1: of it. So then the other day I'm at the

706
00:36:10,400 --> 00:36:13,880
Speaker 1: Jay Z concert and he's playing Brooklyn's Finance, and I

707
00:36:13,880 --> 00:36:16,120
Speaker 1: could feel something coming up, and I'm like, what is this?

708
00:36:16,280 --> 00:36:19,319
Speaker 1: Like what he's been He's been gone for a little

709
00:36:19,320 --> 00:36:21,840
Speaker 1: while now, you know, I've cried about it, I've been fine,

710
00:36:21,920 --> 00:36:24,000
Speaker 1: And so I could feel it coming up and I

711
00:36:24,040 --> 00:36:27,080
Speaker 1: realized I was seeing it the way I would imagine

712
00:36:27,120 --> 00:36:29,839
Speaker 1: he would see it, because it was like inside of me, right,

713
00:36:29,920 --> 00:36:32,760
Speaker 1: And so I was having that feeling and then Jay says,

714
00:36:34,080 --> 00:36:36,200
Speaker 1: shout out to a rest in peace DJ Clarkett, and

715
00:36:36,239 --> 00:36:38,840
Speaker 1: he said that, and I I just like lost it

716
00:36:38,840 --> 00:36:42,000
Speaker 1: and I couldn't figure out why. It was just I

717
00:36:42,040 --> 00:36:44,439
Speaker 1: was so emotional and I couldn't figure it. And now

718
00:36:44,480 --> 00:36:47,560
Speaker 1: you just explained to me what was happening. It's because

719
00:36:47,600 --> 00:36:52,839
Speaker 1: I ingested something that sits now inside of me. Yes,

720
00:36:53,600 --> 00:36:56,200
Speaker 1: And then in that moment it kind of came back up.

721
00:36:56,440 --> 00:36:59,080
Speaker 1: And so I could only imagine for you, in directing

722
00:36:59,080 --> 00:37:03,480
Speaker 1: an episode of IVF and having all the emotions inside

723
00:37:03,480 --> 00:37:06,880
Speaker 1: of you already. Yeah, it's like you're re ingesting it

724
00:37:06,960 --> 00:37:08,680
Speaker 1: in a way. Yeah. Does that make sense?

725
00:37:08,960 --> 00:37:10,360
Speaker 2: Does that what you're happening into that?

726
00:37:10,520 --> 00:37:14,360
Speaker 1: Yes, interesting. Yeah, I'd never experienced that before. So and

727
00:37:14,400 --> 00:37:16,120
Speaker 1: I didn't even know that that's what I was experiencing

728
00:37:16,239 --> 00:37:17,759
Speaker 1: until you just explained it to me.

729
00:37:17,880 --> 00:37:21,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, And I didn't know until it happened to me.

730
00:37:23,040 --> 00:37:26,120
Speaker 1: So what what? What was the did you? So? Why

731
00:37:26,160 --> 00:37:28,239
Speaker 1: did you decide? Was it just because you know you

732
00:37:28,280 --> 00:37:31,600
Speaker 1: had been through that and decided to direct that specific episode.

733
00:37:32,000 --> 00:37:36,400
Speaker 2: Well, we were telling a story about IVF and you know,

734
00:37:36,480 --> 00:37:38,799
Speaker 2: and we were trying to like figure out timeline and

735
00:37:38,920 --> 00:37:42,200
Speaker 2: what is useful and serves the story and what's important

736
00:37:42,239 --> 00:37:47,000
Speaker 2: and honoring the story. And one day, like like months

737
00:37:47,000 --> 00:37:50,279
Speaker 2: and months in like we have good stories already like

738
00:37:50,480 --> 00:37:54,640
Speaker 2: lined up. I I just told everyone, like my writer

739
00:37:55,160 --> 00:37:59,759
Speaker 2: my writer's room. I'm like, it can't just all be good.

740
00:38:01,120 --> 00:38:04,200
Speaker 2: It can't just all be like shots. It's not that

741
00:38:05,040 --> 00:38:09,640
Speaker 2: like some heavy shit goes on. You know, your eggs

742
00:38:09,640 --> 00:38:15,239
Speaker 2: aren't viable, you don't have a heartbeat, you are completely

743
00:38:15,840 --> 00:38:20,879
Speaker 2: in like just insanely anxious for each appointment because you're

744
00:38:20,960 --> 00:38:24,120
Speaker 2: just waiting for bad news, you know. So I'm like,

745
00:38:24,520 --> 00:38:26,400
Speaker 2: there's got to be some of that in there in

746
00:38:26,520 --> 00:38:30,080
Speaker 2: order for it to feel like a real story, and

747
00:38:30,160 --> 00:38:33,239
Speaker 2: I'm like, I realized we're doing a comedy. Okay, it

748
00:38:33,280 --> 00:38:37,360
Speaker 2: will be funny, but the funny will be the relief,

749
00:38:38,080 --> 00:38:41,360
Speaker 2: the release you feel after putting your body through that.

750
00:38:42,000 --> 00:38:44,759
Speaker 2: And I did so much of it for so long

751
00:38:44,800 --> 00:38:47,520
Speaker 2: and still maintained to have like a career as happy clown.

752
00:38:47,920 --> 00:38:50,560
Speaker 2: So I'm like, let's just do it. We can do it.

753
00:38:50,760 --> 00:38:52,640
Speaker 2: We just have to figure it out. And so we

754
00:38:52,800 --> 00:38:54,920
Speaker 2: cracked the We cracked the code. I can't believe we

755
00:38:54,960 --> 00:38:59,680
Speaker 2: did it, but everybody was like really cool and vulnerable

756
00:38:59,680 --> 00:39:02,440
Speaker 2: and to share and like even like put in other

757
00:39:02,480 --> 00:39:04,719
Speaker 2: people's stories and like figure out how we can like

758
00:39:06,760 --> 00:39:09,200
Speaker 2: just mind the material to have it make sense. But

759
00:39:09,920 --> 00:39:15,160
Speaker 2: ultimately it was the things that I went through, and

760
00:39:15,520 --> 00:39:18,640
Speaker 2: I thought nobody else could direct me but me, especially

761
00:39:18,680 --> 00:39:22,200
Speaker 2: through this process, because even if somebody had four losses

762
00:39:22,200 --> 00:39:25,040
Speaker 2: in five years and hundreds of thousands of dollars spent,

763
00:39:25,680 --> 00:39:31,240
Speaker 2: their experience will be different than mine. So I chose

764
00:39:31,400 --> 00:39:33,520
Speaker 2: the hot seat, and I'm glad I and I'm glad

765
00:39:33,560 --> 00:39:37,960
Speaker 2: I did because now I know I already knew I

766
00:39:37,960 --> 00:39:41,360
Speaker 2: could do hard things, but like other hard things, you know,

767
00:39:41,920 --> 00:39:48,200
Speaker 2: and now I know I can go into I can

768
00:39:48,239 --> 00:39:52,400
Speaker 2: go on a set and direct someone because I know

769
00:39:52,600 --> 00:39:54,719
Speaker 2: what I needed for myself and I was able to

770
00:39:54,760 --> 00:39:59,200
Speaker 2: do that, And yeah, and I would love to do

771
00:39:59,239 --> 00:40:01,719
Speaker 2: that for someone. Mmm, would that?

772
00:40:01,880 --> 00:40:06,279
Speaker 1: Yeah? What do you say to somebody who's about to

773
00:40:06,320 --> 00:40:10,000
Speaker 1: go on an IVF journey or somebody maybe that's supporting

774
00:40:10,040 --> 00:40:11,920
Speaker 1: someone who was in the midst of that.

775
00:40:12,160 --> 00:40:16,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, like what should we know? I mean if you

776
00:40:16,520 --> 00:40:18,600
Speaker 2: are going through an IVF journey or about to go

777
00:40:18,680 --> 00:40:27,359
Speaker 2: through one. My friend Jordan Carlos told me this when

778
00:40:27,719 --> 00:40:29,719
Speaker 2: my surrogate was pregnant and it was like still high

779
00:40:29,800 --> 00:40:32,560
Speaker 2: risk and all stuff, and he goes, you know, Michelle,

780
00:40:32,600 --> 00:40:36,319
Speaker 2: sometimes you can have a happy ending. And so I

781
00:40:36,360 --> 00:40:40,919
Speaker 2: really held on to that because the happy ending might

782
00:40:40,960 --> 00:40:43,040
Speaker 2: not look like how you want it to be, but

783
00:40:43,080 --> 00:40:46,960
Speaker 2: it's still good. So hold on to the positive parts,

784
00:40:47,200 --> 00:40:53,120
Speaker 2: you know. And for someone who knows someone going through it,

785
00:40:53,960 --> 00:40:58,239
Speaker 2: I mean, all you have to do is show up

786
00:40:58,280 --> 00:41:03,399
Speaker 2: and say, okay, are you okay? I'm here for you.

787
00:41:03,400 --> 00:41:07,640
Speaker 2: You don't have to like explain or fix or overstand

788
00:41:07,880 --> 00:41:10,080
Speaker 2: or like have an article or a link and tell

789
00:41:10,120 --> 00:41:12,600
Speaker 2: them what they should and shouldn't be doing. Eat less

790
00:41:12,640 --> 00:41:14,040
Speaker 2: of this, more of that. You don't have to do.

791
00:41:14,120 --> 00:41:15,120
Speaker 2: You don't have to do that. She you don't have

792
00:41:15,120 --> 00:41:17,680
Speaker 2: to be doctor oz. He ain't even a doctor. Oh no,

793
00:41:19,400 --> 00:41:24,240
Speaker 2: oh no, she said what she said, what she said.

794
00:41:24,719 --> 00:41:28,960
Speaker 1: Said it was funny, right, but yeah, just be there.

795
00:41:29,040 --> 00:41:32,560
Speaker 2: Are you okay? Can I take you out for a sandwich?

796
00:41:32,600 --> 00:41:32,960
Speaker 1: That's it?

797
00:41:33,320 --> 00:41:34,840
Speaker 2: Where the days you were not okay?

798
00:41:35,080 --> 00:41:40,000
Speaker 1: One hundred one. I have never experienced that, so I

799
00:41:40,000 --> 00:41:43,239
Speaker 1: don't I could understand you, but not I don't, you know,

800
00:41:43,280 --> 00:41:44,719
Speaker 1: I don't know what that process is like.

801
00:41:44,760 --> 00:41:48,320
Speaker 2: So it's a shit show because you're made to feel

802
00:41:48,680 --> 00:41:52,719
Speaker 2: guilty for having a family in this alternative way that

803
00:41:53,000 --> 00:41:57,640
Speaker 2: is not supported by healthcare. It is a little bit

804
00:41:57,640 --> 00:42:01,200
Speaker 2: better now, but the fact that we don't have access

805
00:42:02,960 --> 00:42:05,600
Speaker 2: to IVF in the way that we should. We don't

806
00:42:05,640 --> 00:42:07,759
Speaker 2: have access to like basic health care. The fact that

807
00:42:07,800 --> 00:42:10,680
Speaker 2: we don't even have access to like like the most

808
00:42:10,800 --> 00:42:13,560
Speaker 2: basic human needs is just like so insane to me.

809
00:42:13,680 --> 00:42:14,719
Speaker 1: But then a.

810
00:42:14,719 --> 00:42:16,160
Speaker 2: Lot of people don't know about it, and so there's

811
00:42:16,160 --> 00:42:18,719
Speaker 2: like conversations that you can't have because then you're gonna

812
00:42:18,760 --> 00:42:21,560
Speaker 2: have to explain stuff to someone that you don't fully

813
00:42:21,560 --> 00:42:24,880
Speaker 2: know how to explain and they can't take in. You know,

814
00:42:24,920 --> 00:42:26,960
Speaker 2: there's already shame in saying that you want a kid

815
00:42:27,000 --> 00:42:29,480
Speaker 2: or that you don't want a kid, you know, instead

816
00:42:29,480 --> 00:42:32,400
Speaker 2: of just like, whatever you want, I want that for you,

817
00:42:32,400 --> 00:42:32,680
Speaker 2: you know.

818
00:42:33,640 --> 00:42:36,120
Speaker 1: Right, the basics, the basics. Yeah, and then it's just

819
00:42:36,160 --> 00:42:38,600
Speaker 1: like you're too old or you're too young, or you

820
00:42:38,600 --> 00:42:41,240
Speaker 1: should lose weight, you should like not work as much,

821
00:42:41,320 --> 00:42:45,080
Speaker 1: and you know, and then there's like the the feelings

822
00:42:45,120 --> 00:42:48,040
Speaker 1: of shooting yourself up with hormones and not realizing that,

823
00:42:48,120 --> 00:42:50,640
Speaker 1: Like you're doing a fun.

824
00:42:50,440 --> 00:42:55,080
Speaker 2: Scene with Gene is it Gina Rodriguez? Is that her name?

825
00:42:55,760 --> 00:42:56,400
Speaker 1: Yes? Yes?

826
00:42:56,520 --> 00:43:00,560
Speaker 2: Right, yes, and yeah the version y.

827
00:43:00,800 --> 00:43:00,960
Speaker 1: Yeah.

828
00:43:01,000 --> 00:43:02,800
Speaker 2: I did a movie with her. I was in a

829
00:43:02,840 --> 00:43:06,120
Speaker 2: scene with her. I don't remember the name of the movie.

830
00:43:06,600 --> 00:43:08,360
Speaker 2: It was hilarious. How do you do a movie and

831
00:43:08,400 --> 00:43:10,319
Speaker 2: don't remember the name? That's fascinating.

832
00:43:11,480 --> 00:43:13,839
Speaker 1: I know. I had fun because you've done so much. Look,

833
00:43:14,440 --> 00:43:17,280
Speaker 1: it just goes through a day. Do you like it? Perfect?

834
00:43:17,840 --> 00:43:20,680
Speaker 2: But it was supposed to be one scene, like four lines,

835
00:43:20,719 --> 00:43:23,120
Speaker 2: and then we ended up improving this whole thing. I

836
00:43:23,160 --> 00:43:24,920
Speaker 2: was hopped up in hormones. I think I was like

837
00:43:24,960 --> 00:43:28,240
Speaker 2: probably experienced the miscarriage at the time, and at one point,

838
00:43:28,280 --> 00:43:30,600
Speaker 2: like her boyfriend breaks up with her. I start crying

839
00:43:30,680 --> 00:43:33,040
Speaker 2: because the hormones are there, but the jokes are there too,

840
00:43:33,480 --> 00:43:35,279
Speaker 2: And then she starts reacting to me crying.

841
00:43:35,280 --> 00:43:37,520
Speaker 1: I'm like, why break up with you? With them big

842
00:43:37,560 --> 00:43:39,719
Speaker 1: ass teeth chomping on his date? Why he don't want that?

843
00:43:40,239 --> 00:43:41,880
Speaker 2: And she's like gro what? And I was like gro

844
00:43:42,000 --> 00:43:45,480
Speaker 2: by and we had a toime. But like there's also

845
00:43:45,560 --> 00:43:50,160
Speaker 2: like leaving that set feeling nuts, like what just happened?

846
00:43:50,280 --> 00:43:54,520
Speaker 1: What just happened? That's that's how I felt that the

847
00:43:54,560 --> 00:43:57,160
Speaker 1: jay Z concert really yeah, because I was crying in

848
00:43:57,200 --> 00:44:00,839
Speaker 1: this I'm in them with the terror squad in the

849
00:43:59,680 --> 00:44:04,279
Speaker 1: bo vip suite and everybody's just drinking duce and a

850
00:44:04,520 --> 00:44:06,160
Speaker 1: space and having a good time. When a jay Z

851
00:44:06,280 --> 00:44:09,120
Speaker 1: concert and I'm like crying.

852
00:44:09,680 --> 00:44:13,600
Speaker 2: It was terrible, but it's emotional. I know, HU cry

853
00:44:13,719 --> 00:44:17,719
Speaker 2: now And it's history, yeah, you know, And it's like

854
00:44:17,760 --> 00:44:23,600
Speaker 2: also like it's also remembering of like what that time was,

855
00:44:24,360 --> 00:44:27,160
Speaker 2: Like that was a good time, you know for sure.

856
00:44:27,680 --> 00:44:29,600
Speaker 2: So that's how you felt when you left the set.

857
00:44:29,920 --> 00:44:34,560
Speaker 1: You were like what was going on with me? Yeah?

858
00:44:34,840 --> 00:44:37,520
Speaker 2: Like I remember, like my husband made a sandwich and

859
00:44:37,560 --> 00:44:41,760
Speaker 2: he left crumbs on the kitchen counter. And I started crying.

860
00:44:41,840 --> 00:44:44,719
Speaker 2: I was like, I can't live like this. I might

861
00:44:44,760 --> 00:44:47,360
Speaker 2: need a divorce. I'm like, you don't think about me,

862
00:44:47,560 --> 00:44:50,440
Speaker 2: you know? And he was like, or is it the hormones.

863
00:44:50,480 --> 00:44:54,839
Speaker 1: I'm like, oh, I like him so much? Yeah, I'm

864
00:44:54,920 --> 00:44:55,520
Speaker 1: a good guy.

865
00:44:55,719 --> 00:44:56,839
Speaker 2: He's a pretty good guy.

866
00:44:57,280 --> 00:45:02,040
Speaker 1: That's pretty good. I know. Did he say it that calm? Yeah,

867
00:45:02,080 --> 00:45:03,600
Speaker 1: he did. My type of person.

868
00:45:04,080 --> 00:45:08,399
Speaker 2: Well, he's a virgo. So these earth signs be keeping me.

869
00:45:08,640 --> 00:45:13,319
Speaker 2: That's so good. Yeah, you said something before. What did

870
00:45:13,320 --> 00:45:14,680
Speaker 2: you call it? The comic?

871
00:45:15,960 --> 00:45:16,160
Speaker 1: Oh?

872
00:45:16,280 --> 00:45:17,120
Speaker 2: What did you call it?

873
00:45:17,160 --> 00:45:17,560
Speaker 1: I don't know.

874
00:45:17,840 --> 00:45:18,840
Speaker 2: Called it a comic?

875
00:45:21,000 --> 00:45:22,920
Speaker 1: What you do? It's like you just said it like

876
00:45:22,960 --> 00:45:25,120
Speaker 1: a couple of minutes ago. God, I should have wrote

877
00:45:25,160 --> 00:45:27,600
Speaker 1: it down. Oh my gosh, what did I say?

878
00:45:27,800 --> 00:45:30,719
Speaker 2: I don't get me started. It was like the comic face,

879
00:45:30,760 --> 00:45:33,640
Speaker 2: So the comic I don't remember.

880
00:45:34,000 --> 00:45:34,279
Speaker 1: This is what.

881
00:45:34,320 --> 00:45:35,360
Speaker 2: I don't remember what movies.

882
00:45:35,200 --> 00:45:38,800
Speaker 1: Like you like possessed like you just say things. I

883
00:45:38,840 --> 00:45:40,640
Speaker 1: don't remember what movies I'm in. It gave me a

884
00:45:40,680 --> 00:45:43,560
Speaker 1: sense that you had an idea about like how comedy

885
00:45:43,680 --> 00:45:46,560
Speaker 1: you people use comedy as like a shield. It's like

886
00:45:46,600 --> 00:45:50,160
Speaker 1: a oh, like to be guarded, no, like to cover

887
00:45:50,320 --> 00:45:54,760
Speaker 1: up like you're being funny. Oh did I misread something

888
00:45:54,800 --> 00:45:57,320
Speaker 1: you said? Totally? I don't know. I really do be

889
00:45:57,360 --> 00:46:00,680
Speaker 1: forgetting stuff like do you ever and be like the

890
00:46:00,680 --> 00:46:02,480
Speaker 1: two of us together just you don't even know what

891
00:46:02,480 --> 00:46:10,200
Speaker 1: you said. I can't remember that questions we're crying, We're

892
00:46:10,239 --> 00:46:15,960
Speaker 1: only here crying. Oh shit, it's stupid. It's just so dumb.

893
00:46:16,120 --> 00:46:20,560
Speaker 1: I don't think. God, I we're an adult typo. How

894
00:46:20,600 --> 00:46:23,480
Speaker 1: are you doing with age? You know what? Because you're

895
00:46:23,520 --> 00:46:26,920
Speaker 1: about to be what forty nine? I think I'm doing okay,

896
00:46:27,040 --> 00:46:27,200
Speaker 1: you know.

897
00:46:27,320 --> 00:46:30,279
Speaker 2: My body's just like I hope this person doesn't like

898
00:46:30,280 --> 00:46:31,880
Speaker 2: this chair because you're about to sneeze.

899
00:46:31,600 --> 00:46:32,960
Speaker 1: The ruin it.

900
00:46:34,480 --> 00:46:36,839
Speaker 2: But other than that, like I don't remember most things

901
00:46:36,840 --> 00:46:38,359
Speaker 2: like where I just was and what I just said.

902
00:46:38,400 --> 00:46:42,480
Speaker 2: But other than that, but I do feel the need

903
00:46:42,520 --> 00:46:44,240
Speaker 2: to like be as healthy as possible.

904
00:46:44,280 --> 00:46:45,520
Speaker 1: I think something happens.

905
00:46:45,200 --> 00:46:48,640
Speaker 2: When you're an older parent, Like my kids are seven,

906
00:46:49,200 --> 00:46:50,640
Speaker 2: and I want them to get older.

907
00:46:51,000 --> 00:46:52,239
Speaker 1: But the happy place is.

908
00:46:52,160 --> 00:46:54,520
Speaker 2: Like I don't want to get older. I don't want

909
00:46:54,520 --> 00:46:56,440
Speaker 2: to get older to like hold on to youth or whatever.

910
00:46:56,800 --> 00:46:59,160
Speaker 2: I just want to be there for them all the time.

911
00:46:59,760 --> 00:47:02,959
Speaker 2: So that's like the main thing about aging that I'm

912
00:47:03,040 --> 00:47:05,360
Speaker 2: like anxious about. I just want to be there for

913
00:47:05,440 --> 00:47:07,279
Speaker 2: the health of it all. Yeah, I want to be

914
00:47:07,320 --> 00:47:08,719
Speaker 2: there for them. I want to know how their day

915
00:47:08,840 --> 00:47:10,960
Speaker 2: was and smell them and hold them and just have

916
00:47:11,040 --> 00:47:12,759
Speaker 2: them tell me whatever story they want to tell me,

917
00:47:12,840 --> 00:47:14,239
Speaker 2: or look to just completely ignore.

918
00:47:14,000 --> 00:47:17,719
Speaker 1: Me in a room. And I'm fine with that. Are

919
00:47:17,760 --> 00:47:20,239
Speaker 1: you obsessed with your child upset? Yeah?

920
00:47:20,280 --> 00:47:23,000
Speaker 2: I might be like, I'm yeah. Whatever you think of,

921
00:47:23,080 --> 00:47:25,759
Speaker 2: like neurodivergent people doing, That's how I am with my kids.

922
00:47:25,800 --> 00:47:29,359
Speaker 2: I'm like, ah, Like I just love to clean their

923
00:47:29,400 --> 00:47:33,799
Speaker 2: ears and clip their toenails and braid their hair. Do

924
00:47:33,840 --> 00:47:34,399
Speaker 2: you so great?

925
00:47:34,480 --> 00:47:37,480
Speaker 1: Do you? I wonder sometimes like my girlfriend Adrian, you

926
00:47:37,520 --> 00:47:40,240
Speaker 1: know Adrian how and she used to be on the rail. Yeah,

927
00:47:40,360 --> 00:47:44,000
Speaker 1: she also had IVF and then wind up having a surrogate.

928
00:47:44,320 --> 00:47:48,239
Speaker 1: Oh the way she loves on her son. Yeah, it's

929
00:47:48,280 --> 00:47:51,160
Speaker 1: because she wanted. I mean, she's she's just a good soul,

930
00:47:51,360 --> 00:47:52,680
Speaker 1: you know she she would have probably been a great

931
00:47:52,680 --> 00:47:57,279
Speaker 1: mother anyway. But something about wanting children and working so

932
00:47:57,440 --> 00:48:01,320
Speaker 1: hard to be a mother. Yeah, the way motherhood hits

933
00:48:01,480 --> 00:48:04,279
Speaker 1: I think it's a little different. Not to say, well,

934
00:48:04,320 --> 00:48:05,759
Speaker 1: there's all I love my kids to death too. But

935
00:48:05,800 --> 00:48:09,080
Speaker 1: I'm just saying I notice in friends who have really

936
00:48:09,120 --> 00:48:12,520
Speaker 1: had a difficult time getting there, yeah, that you experience

937
00:48:12,600 --> 00:48:15,200
Speaker 1: your kids in it. I don't know. I think you do.

938
00:48:15,320 --> 00:48:18,640
Speaker 2: I think that's right. I think there's like there's a

939
00:48:18,680 --> 00:48:20,759
Speaker 2: thing that happened when I first brought them home, or

940
00:48:20,800 --> 00:48:23,080
Speaker 2: like not even brought them home, but like out in

941
00:48:23,160 --> 00:48:27,160
Speaker 2: public where I didn't know because everyone wants to know

942
00:48:27,200 --> 00:48:29,400
Speaker 2: your birth story, like right away twins had it, and

943
00:48:29,440 --> 00:48:32,319
Speaker 2: you're like, it's very jarring because it's like do you

944
00:48:32,320 --> 00:48:37,040
Speaker 2: tell people your story? It felt like it could have

945
00:48:37,080 --> 00:48:39,440
Speaker 2: gone into imposter syndrome for a minute because I'm like,

946
00:48:39,800 --> 00:48:43,520
Speaker 2: these are my kids. But but again, because of who

947
00:48:43,520 --> 00:48:45,279
Speaker 2: I am, and I have to remind myself of how

948
00:48:45,320 --> 00:48:48,640
Speaker 2: I live being in a new situation now in my life,

949
00:48:48,680 --> 00:48:51,799
Speaker 2: in a new chapter, this is who I am, this

950
00:48:51,840 --> 00:48:56,480
Speaker 2: is what happened. And I realized sharing my truth not

951
00:48:56,480 --> 00:48:59,879
Speaker 2: only will educate but also probably help someone being there.

952
00:49:00,640 --> 00:49:04,359
Speaker 2: So I'm just like, this is what it is, and

953
00:49:04,480 --> 00:49:06,960
Speaker 2: this is how they came to be. But there was

954
00:49:07,000 --> 00:49:10,360
Speaker 2: a moment too where I was like, am I doing

955
00:49:10,400 --> 00:49:15,480
Speaker 2: the most at motherhood? Because I didn't carry them? And

956
00:49:15,800 --> 00:49:19,480
Speaker 2: now that there's seven and I'm still running myself.

957
00:49:19,680 --> 00:49:22,239
Speaker 1: Ragged, doing the most, doing the most. I'm like, oh,

958
00:49:22,239 --> 00:49:25,560
Speaker 1: this is who I ye know. It's just like sometimes

959
00:49:25,600 --> 00:49:28,040
Speaker 1: I just like to make sweet potato waffles from scratch

960
00:49:28,239 --> 00:49:30,160
Speaker 1: when I got to be somewhere at eight am, and

961
00:49:30,160 --> 00:49:31,839
Speaker 1: I'll wake up at six am to do it. This

962
00:49:31,920 --> 00:49:34,040
Speaker 1: is who I am. I want to make sure they

963
00:49:34,080 --> 00:49:38,200
Speaker 1: eat good, but just know that that might change. There's seven,

964
00:49:38,239 --> 00:49:40,759
Speaker 1: but when they're sixteen, you might not be in that

965
00:49:40,920 --> 00:49:43,479
Speaker 1: phase of life. You might be like one hundred. What's

966
00:49:43,520 --> 00:49:46,800
Speaker 1: the math? When they're sixteen? How old am I? Uh?

967
00:49:46,840 --> 00:49:51,680
Speaker 1: What are you? In nine years? You're gonna be fifty eight? No, yeah, yeah,

968
00:49:51,719 --> 00:49:53,120
Speaker 1: fifty eight fifty.

969
00:49:53,400 --> 00:49:57,000
Speaker 2: I'll be on my like hollyberry shit and I have

970
00:49:57,080 --> 00:49:59,320
Speaker 2: to like use like a spray to still get wet.

971
00:50:00,040 --> 00:50:03,640
Speaker 2: And I'll be boogie ubrals and a captain, you know,

972
00:50:04,160 --> 00:50:06,440
Speaker 2: getting my hair wet, jumping off of boats like Beyonce

973
00:50:06,560 --> 00:50:09,879
Speaker 2: and or Gabriel Union, and I'll have like a really

974
00:50:09,960 --> 00:50:12,359
Speaker 2: nice skincare line, you know what I mean.

975
00:50:12,840 --> 00:50:14,680
Speaker 1: I think my feet will still be sucked up. Just

976
00:50:14,800 --> 00:50:17,200
Speaker 1: you know, ther vision for yourself is so clear, Thank

977
00:50:17,239 --> 00:50:19,240
Speaker 1: you so much. Yeah, I just want soft feet.

978
00:50:19,320 --> 00:50:19,919
Speaker 2: You know what I mean?

979
00:50:20,000 --> 00:50:20,479
Speaker 1: That's all.

980
00:50:20,880 --> 00:50:23,360
Speaker 2: I don't even need soft life any soft feet and

981
00:50:23,440 --> 00:50:26,400
Speaker 2: a wet and a wet vagina soft feet, you know,

982
00:50:26,800 --> 00:50:30,840
Speaker 2: hard money, wet pussy soft life.

983
00:50:30,920 --> 00:50:39,799
Speaker 1: Okay, you want to You're like, It's like when I

984
00:50:39,840 --> 00:50:44,319
Speaker 1: get my mom likes She's like you like it? I

985
00:50:44,400 --> 00:50:44,719
Speaker 1: love it?

986
00:50:44,800 --> 00:50:52,000
Speaker 2: Since mm, that's it, That's what I want for myself.

987
00:50:52,080 --> 00:50:56,239
Speaker 1: How about that, halle Berry? Huh? How about it? How

988
00:50:56,280 --> 00:50:59,400
Speaker 1: about if not as because you talked about the allointments

989
00:50:59,400 --> 00:51:01,360
Speaker 1: and stuff, but she also has a gadget that is

990
00:51:01,360 --> 00:51:04,880
Speaker 1: some type of red light. Have you seen this? Yes,

991
00:51:05,040 --> 00:51:06,920
Speaker 1: I don't know if I need don't it. I'm not

992
00:51:06,960 --> 00:51:10,680
Speaker 1: saying you need it. I'm fascinated. Okay, what if you

993
00:51:10,680 --> 00:51:15,440
Speaker 1: were saying that? I heard? So I heard. By the

994
00:51:15,480 --> 00:51:20,680
Speaker 1: way we have I r L wh so like we

995
00:51:20,680 --> 00:51:23,520
Speaker 1: don't get a lot of oxygen down there, So I

996
00:51:23,520 --> 00:51:24,319
Speaker 1: guess the red light?

997
00:51:24,480 --> 00:51:24,960
Speaker 2: What do you mean?

998
00:51:25,120 --> 00:51:32,560
Speaker 1: What do you mean? What? What? What is wrong with us?

999
00:51:32,640 --> 00:51:35,640
Speaker 2: It doesn't get aired out a lot? Okay, so I'm

1000
00:51:35,680 --> 00:51:38,480
Speaker 2: sure the red light makes it feel like it's got

1001
00:51:38,480 --> 00:51:41,319
Speaker 2: some warmth on there is that is that?

1002
00:51:42,960 --> 00:51:43,640
Speaker 1: Is that? Look?

1003
00:51:43,760 --> 00:51:46,719
Speaker 2: I'm not doctor Oz, but I will say, I don't

1004
00:51:46,719 --> 00:51:49,520
Speaker 2: even play one on TV, although I did play orthopedic surgeon,

1005
00:51:49,680 --> 00:51:51,960
Speaker 2: did you? I did in First Wives Club. I don't

1006
00:51:52,000 --> 00:51:53,839
Speaker 2: know how to spelt worthopedic, like what are we doing?

1007
00:51:54,840 --> 00:51:54,880
Speaker 3: Like?

1008
00:51:55,000 --> 00:51:56,799
Speaker 1: What are we doing? It was probably in the script

1009
00:51:56,400 --> 00:51:57,400
Speaker 1: it was.

1010
00:51:57,400 --> 00:52:00,560
Speaker 2: Beatt plush, probably shout out you have your past word.

1011
00:52:07,600 --> 00:52:11,480
Speaker 1: More water? You can't we have we have unlimited supply water.

1012
00:52:11,760 --> 00:52:14,960
Speaker 2: You guys got the good budget water and on crustables

1013
00:52:18,160 --> 00:52:21,520
Speaker 2: there they're like, go outside, Yeah, you have to what

1014
00:52:23,719 --> 00:52:25,560
Speaker 2: for yours because there's no sun down there?

1015
00:52:25,640 --> 00:52:31,480
Speaker 1: Right? Is that right? Yeah? No, No, it's important to

1016
00:52:31,600 --> 00:52:40,640
Speaker 1: Factestetician No serious, can somebody chat GPT it? It stimulates

1017
00:52:41,000 --> 00:52:47,759
Speaker 1: my andria minochandria which DC, thank yous, avatar, thank you

1018
00:52:47,800 --> 00:52:58,000
Speaker 1: so much, anaconda vagina, it's it's stimulates. I'm so sorry. No,

1019
00:52:58,160 --> 00:53:00,600
Speaker 1: you've opened so many questions. I have so many follow

1020
00:53:00,680 --> 00:53:04,080
Speaker 1: up questions about oxygen and do we get enough oxygen?

1021
00:53:04,640 --> 00:53:06,760
Speaker 2: Brittany says, they're women who, yeah.

1022
00:53:06,640 --> 00:53:09,000
Speaker 1: You have to sunbathe with theirs open.

1023
00:53:09,200 --> 00:53:12,480
Speaker 2: Well, if you have like a colation down there, like

1024
00:53:12,680 --> 00:53:16,040
Speaker 2: sometimes it gets a little purple or like dark brown

1025
00:53:16,160 --> 00:53:18,319
Speaker 2: or black, is because it doesn't get enough sun.

1026
00:53:19,880 --> 00:53:22,280
Speaker 1: Oh it is something I've never considered.

1027
00:53:22,440 --> 00:53:22,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, I know.

1028
00:53:23,600 --> 00:53:25,000
Speaker 1: I've learned so much from you today.

1029
00:53:25,360 --> 00:53:26,320
Speaker 2: Thank you, thank you.

1030
00:53:26,480 --> 00:53:27,080
Speaker 1: I could talk.

1031
00:53:27,520 --> 00:53:29,680
Speaker 2: I could just talk about bodies all day, like really,

1032
00:53:30,000 --> 00:53:32,279
Speaker 2: we're fast, it's fascinating, and we don't know anything about

1033
00:53:32,280 --> 00:53:35,320
Speaker 2: our body until something goes wrong. Oh my god, you

1034
00:53:35,440 --> 00:53:37,960
Speaker 2: know more about our car than our bodies, and our

1035
00:53:38,000 --> 00:53:41,120
Speaker 2: bodies are like fucking amazing. So that's why I'm just

1036
00:53:41,239 --> 00:53:44,360
Speaker 2: like celebrate. And also no, no, it's powerful.

1037
00:53:44,719 --> 00:53:47,560
Speaker 1: Yes, you know, are you like a naked person, like

1038
00:53:47,640 --> 00:53:49,600
Speaker 1: do you enjoy being naked? You got it?

1039
00:53:49,920 --> 00:53:51,960
Speaker 2: You are her, you got it. You picked it up

1040
00:53:52,040 --> 00:53:53,920
Speaker 2: right away stead of Roger, your camera guy, he's like

1041
00:53:54,000 --> 00:53:56,680
Speaker 2: a bitch, we're the naked family.

1042
00:53:56,880 --> 00:53:59,880
Speaker 1: Are you sunbathing your vagina for oxygen?

1043
00:54:00,080 --> 00:54:00,320
Speaker 2: Why not?

1044
00:54:00,920 --> 00:54:00,960
Speaker 1: No?

1045
00:54:01,680 --> 00:54:04,479
Speaker 2: No, I mean no, not with all the fruit flies

1046
00:54:04,520 --> 00:54:04,880
Speaker 2: and stuff.

1047
00:54:04,960 --> 00:54:11,400
Speaker 1: Just kidding, but like will, I will never under say that.

1048
00:54:11,800 --> 00:54:16,040
Speaker 2: I'm so sorry, but yeah, I just like to be freak.

1049
00:54:16,160 --> 00:54:18,440
Speaker 2: I would ever consider that. Now you've put fruit flies

1050
00:54:18,480 --> 00:54:21,280
Speaker 2: into the equation. I'm so sorry. I was doing Bebby

1051
00:54:21,360 --> 00:54:24,640
Speaker 2: Smith's podcast in ben and it was in Miami and

1052
00:54:24,680 --> 00:54:26,200
Speaker 2: there were fruit flies down there, and I was like,

1053
00:54:26,280 --> 00:54:28,680
Speaker 2: I'm sorry, and she's like, it's the neck.

1054
00:54:28,640 --> 00:54:32,960
Speaker 1: To Darling, it's a sweet neck doll. And I was like, thanks, Bebby,

1055
00:54:33,440 --> 00:54:40,480
Speaker 1: Wow what hype woman. But anyway, yeah, I like to

1056
00:54:40,520 --> 00:54:42,600
Speaker 1: be a little free because you know what it is too.

1057
00:54:42,760 --> 00:54:46,360
Speaker 1: I always had a like like I've had this body.

1058
00:54:46,880 --> 00:54:48,879
Speaker 2: It was bigger when I was like eleven or twelve,

1059
00:54:48,920 --> 00:54:50,680
Speaker 2: and so I always had to like be under a

1060
00:54:50,760 --> 00:54:52,959
Speaker 2: male gaze, like stand up straight, not too straight?

1061
00:54:53,000 --> 00:54:55,360
Speaker 1: Where bra you know? Do this? Do that?

1062
00:54:55,600 --> 00:54:58,240
Speaker 2: Like button down shirt, button down shirts and Catholic school

1063
00:54:58,320 --> 00:55:01,080
Speaker 2: my whole life. And now I'm like, I'm free. I'm

1064
00:55:01,200 --> 00:55:03,319
Speaker 2: just free to be who I want, how I want,

1065
00:55:03,360 --> 00:55:05,840
Speaker 2: And this is how I'm comfortable. I still put on

1066
00:55:05,920 --> 00:55:09,480
Speaker 2: clothes when people come over. You put them only when

1067
00:55:09,480 --> 00:55:12,719
Speaker 2: people come over, yes, And when they're not there, it's off.

1068
00:55:14,200 --> 00:55:15,560
Speaker 1: It's off, you know.

1069
00:55:15,840 --> 00:55:17,560
Speaker 2: And the wonder Woll in my house is like, we

1070
00:55:17,760 --> 00:55:19,840
Speaker 2: have to wear clothes at the dinner table, like we

1071
00:55:19,920 --> 00:55:21,520
Speaker 2: can't all Winnie the poet.

1072
00:55:22,800 --> 00:55:28,040
Speaker 1: At dinner? Have we lunch? You know, yes, lunch? What

1073
00:55:28,360 --> 00:55:30,399
Speaker 1: kind of question is that? Such?

1074
00:55:30,840 --> 00:55:32,840
Speaker 2: Wait asked, what are the quests? You have?

1075
00:55:32,960 --> 00:55:33,520
Speaker 1: All the cards?

1076
00:55:33,600 --> 00:55:35,279
Speaker 2: It was on the card I want to if you

1077
00:55:35,360 --> 00:55:38,080
Speaker 2: were clothing for like, really, yes, no, it's not.

1078
00:55:39,080 --> 00:55:41,239
Speaker 1: Why would that be in the car? Why would I

1079
00:55:41,280 --> 00:55:43,759
Speaker 1: even know that we were going to go? Heree, This

1080
00:55:43,880 --> 00:55:47,800
Speaker 1: whole conversation is not unexpected. It's taking so many unexpected turns,

1081
00:55:48,400 --> 00:55:52,439
Speaker 1: just like the Jersey Turnpike. She is a Jersey girl.

1082
00:55:53,080 --> 00:55:54,839
Speaker 1: We did have a Jersey card that we didn't get

1083
00:55:54,880 --> 00:55:55,280
Speaker 1: to today.

1084
00:55:55,360 --> 00:55:56,400
Speaker 2: Oh my goodness, what is it?

1085
00:55:56,680 --> 00:55:57,040
Speaker 1: I don't know.

1086
00:55:57,120 --> 00:55:58,080
Speaker 2: It's just a background.

1087
00:55:58,120 --> 00:56:00,600
Speaker 1: And you come from where you come from, growing up

1088
00:56:00,640 --> 00:56:04,080
Speaker 1: in Jersey and you have your parents are Jamaican and Haitian,

1089
00:56:05,280 --> 00:56:10,520
Speaker 1: which is amazing because isn't there like a there's always

1090
00:56:10,680 --> 00:56:13,840
Speaker 1: something something right. It's like Puerto Ricans and Dominicans and

1091
00:56:13,960 --> 00:56:20,319
Speaker 1: Jamaican and Haitians, Dominicans, Dominicans and Jamaicans too. I grew

1092
00:56:20,400 --> 00:56:22,960
Speaker 1: up with a lot Jamaicans. Always felt like one thinks

1093
00:56:23,000 --> 00:56:23,799
Speaker 1: they're better than the other.

1094
00:56:24,480 --> 00:56:28,799
Speaker 2: Always yeah, you know, Cuba, it's all coolbia Venezuela, it's

1095
00:56:28,800 --> 00:56:32,600
Speaker 2: all but you know, same at the end of the day,

1096
00:56:32,600 --> 00:56:34,520
Speaker 2: we're all just like beautiful souls trying to figure out

1097
00:56:34,520 --> 00:56:35,120
Speaker 2: how to do life.

1098
00:56:35,360 --> 00:56:36,239
Speaker 1: Word, you know.

1099
00:56:37,160 --> 00:56:38,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, but that's a lot of Caribbean.

1100
00:56:39,120 --> 00:56:41,279
Speaker 1: It's a lot of Caribbean in the home, it is,

1101
00:56:41,719 --> 00:56:47,000
Speaker 1: how is that navigating your choices like who I want

1102
00:56:47,040 --> 00:56:48,239
Speaker 1: to date, what I want to look like, what I

1103
00:56:48,280 --> 00:56:51,760
Speaker 1: want to do for a career, any old school Haitian

1104
00:56:51,840 --> 00:56:55,160
Speaker 1: Jamaican ideas that kind of went against any of that?

1105
00:56:56,160 --> 00:57:02,719
Speaker 2: Or are your parents pretty liberal and modern? But a

1106
00:57:02,800 --> 00:57:03,319
Speaker 2: great question.

1107
00:57:05,239 --> 00:57:05,759
Speaker 1: I feel like.

1108
00:57:08,239 --> 00:57:13,600
Speaker 2: I feel like they were. They were strict, they were religious,

1109
00:57:13,680 --> 00:57:17,800
Speaker 2: they were conservative, but they also weren't like our families

1110
00:57:17,840 --> 00:57:20,919
Speaker 2: are so big that everybody was sort of like making

1111
00:57:20,960 --> 00:57:23,360
Speaker 2: the right and the wrong choices. So by the time

1112
00:57:23,440 --> 00:57:26,400
Speaker 2: it got to me and they realized I was who

1113
00:57:26,480 --> 00:57:30,120
Speaker 2: I was, They're like, just be a good person. Don't

1114
00:57:30,120 --> 00:57:31,400
Speaker 2: get pregnant in high school.

1115
00:57:32,160 --> 00:57:33,080
Speaker 1: Just you know what I mean.

1116
00:57:33,160 --> 00:57:35,360
Speaker 2: They're like, because I was always like in a small class.

1117
00:57:36,240 --> 00:57:38,320
Speaker 2: I didn't even realize I was like dyslexic till later

1118
00:57:38,400 --> 00:57:42,040
Speaker 2: in life and and you know, probably have add hello

1119
00:57:42,640 --> 00:57:46,440
Speaker 2: and so they were just like, just be a good person.

1120
00:57:47,560 --> 00:57:49,160
Speaker 2: We want the best for you. But you know, and

1121
00:57:49,320 --> 00:57:50,840
Speaker 2: I feel like by the time they got to me,

1122
00:57:51,280 --> 00:57:53,600
Speaker 2: they're like, it's not going to be a doctor, it's

1123
00:57:53,640 --> 00:57:55,360
Speaker 2: not gonna be a lawyer. She can't remember anything.

1124
00:57:56,960 --> 00:58:00,480
Speaker 1: Did they think you were funny. Yeah, is it always

1125
00:58:00,520 --> 00:58:00,960
Speaker 1: taken well?

1126
00:58:01,600 --> 00:58:05,640
Speaker 2: So no, No, my funny to them sometimes was just

1127
00:58:05,720 --> 00:58:08,600
Speaker 2: like very American, but my funny to my friends was

1128
00:58:08,680 --> 00:58:11,920
Speaker 2: like very Caribbean. So that's the great thing about being

1129
00:58:12,040 --> 00:58:15,560
Speaker 2: first generation, like you're just you really do have the

1130
00:58:15,640 --> 00:58:16,480
Speaker 2: best of both worlds.

1131
00:58:17,280 --> 00:58:17,560
Speaker 1: And so.

1132
00:58:19,360 --> 00:58:21,960
Speaker 2: While when we went to Jamaica it was like be free,

1133
00:58:22,040 --> 00:58:26,240
Speaker 2: b you be proud of your body, while we were

1134
00:58:26,240 --> 00:58:29,960
Speaker 2: in America, it's like, you know again, straighten your hair

1135
00:58:30,360 --> 00:58:33,240
Speaker 2: like iron your shir like you know, you have to

1136
00:58:33,400 --> 00:58:37,960
Speaker 2: like go along to get along, assimilate. You don't have

1137
00:58:38,040 --> 00:58:40,640
Speaker 2: to tell everybody where your parents are from. You know,

1138
00:58:41,960 --> 00:58:49,920
Speaker 2: we're from here. And so you know, now realizing how

1139
00:58:50,000 --> 00:58:53,920
Speaker 2: my dad was about being Haitian coming here in the

1140
00:58:54,080 --> 00:58:58,600
Speaker 2: sixties and what's going on with Ice, I realized why

1141
00:58:58,680 --> 00:58:59,360
Speaker 2: he was the.

1142
00:58:59,400 --> 00:58:59,920
Speaker 1: Way he was.

1143
00:59:01,880 --> 00:59:05,240
Speaker 2: You know, what do you mean, like careful or trying

1144
00:59:05,280 --> 00:59:08,160
Speaker 2: to blend the trying to stimilate or yeah, like not

1145
00:59:08,280 --> 00:59:10,800
Speaker 2: giving people too much information about you that they can

1146
00:59:10,880 --> 00:59:18,040
Speaker 2: hold against you, you know, not Yeah, not being as

1147
00:59:18,240 --> 00:59:21,480
Speaker 2: like freeing spaces as you could have been because of

1148
00:59:21,520 --> 00:59:24,000
Speaker 2: the government. I always thought he was paranoid, but this

1149
00:59:24,160 --> 00:59:26,640
Speaker 2: is the time he was talking about It's like he

1150
00:59:26,760 --> 00:59:32,640
Speaker 2: knew yeah, yeah, yeah, fascinating right. Yeah, but I wouldn't

1151
00:59:32,680 --> 00:59:33,960
Speaker 2: change it for the like I wouldn't change it for

1152
00:59:34,000 --> 00:59:34,520
Speaker 2: the world. Yeah.

1153
00:59:34,520 --> 00:59:36,080
Speaker 1: I mean because I like good food in your house.

1154
00:59:36,160 --> 00:59:38,760
Speaker 1: My god, oh very My dad was a cook. He

1155
00:59:38,960 --> 00:59:40,000
Speaker 1: was he was a cook.

1156
00:59:40,760 --> 00:59:42,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, And I'm looking at my kids now, like they

1157
00:59:42,560 --> 00:59:45,120
Speaker 2: can't even make a sandwich. I'm like I was cut

1158
00:59:45,280 --> 00:59:47,680
Speaker 2: and chicken up when I was when I was their age,

1159
00:59:47,680 --> 00:59:49,840
Speaker 2: when I was seven. Yeah, I was laying my clothes

1160
00:59:49,880 --> 00:59:51,520
Speaker 2: out at five, making my breakfast and it.

1161
00:59:51,520 --> 00:59:53,480
Speaker 1: Was a different world. It really is on the subway

1162
00:59:53,480 --> 00:59:56,160
Speaker 1: at seven by myself, like a crazy child, and I

1163
00:59:56,240 --> 00:59:57,439
Speaker 1: really ain't even Yeah.

1164
00:59:57,640 --> 00:59:59,280
Speaker 2: Does that make my mother sound like a bad parent.

1165
00:59:59,440 --> 01:00:02,080
Speaker 1: No, Well, because we all were and we were going

1166
01:00:02,080 --> 01:00:03,840
Speaker 1: to school. So I was on the bus, on the

1167
01:00:03,880 --> 01:00:06,480
Speaker 1: train and the bus or walking Careah, well maybe eight.

1168
01:00:06,560 --> 01:00:08,240
Speaker 1: I was eight when I used to go by myselok

1169
01:00:08,240 --> 01:00:08,680
Speaker 1: at that it.

1170
01:00:08,640 --> 01:00:10,840
Speaker 2: Were so independent. Meanwhile, I'm like chasing my kids around

1171
01:00:10,840 --> 01:00:11,520
Speaker 2: with the water bottle.

1172
01:00:11,680 --> 01:00:16,800
Speaker 1: What am I doing? Said? Water? By Drason station? Did

1173
01:00:17,320 --> 01:00:20,760
Speaker 1: you were like you were doing connections? You were like

1174
01:00:20,800 --> 01:00:23,040
Speaker 1: giving people directions. I had to sit in the near

1175
01:00:23,120 --> 01:00:25,640
Speaker 1: the conductor that was my one Oh, that was my

1176
01:00:25,720 --> 01:00:28,800
Speaker 1: one direction. Sit near the conductor case anything goes wrong.

1177
01:00:30,040 --> 01:00:33,160
Speaker 1: Huh No, I would. I would sit next to the conductor.

1178
01:00:33,160 --> 01:00:35,040
Speaker 1: I would feel safe. I would think the conductor who

1179
01:00:35,080 --> 01:00:38,120
Speaker 1: didn't know me, but I just I was like fake security.

1180
01:00:38,360 --> 01:00:41,360
Speaker 1: Yeah he didn't know. You know, the conductors never know.

1181
01:00:41,440 --> 01:00:43,200
Speaker 1: But when you were young, that's what our parents used

1182
01:00:43,200 --> 01:00:45,720
Speaker 1: to say. No, you're from Jersey, so probably different than

1183
01:00:45,760 --> 01:00:47,360
Speaker 1: being in the city, right, Like, yeah, I'd be like,

1184
01:00:47,440 --> 01:00:49,720
Speaker 1: sit near the conductor. I did the city, ED.

1185
01:00:49,720 --> 01:00:51,600
Speaker 2: Did the city. I did Long Island. I just I

1186
01:00:51,680 --> 01:00:53,800
Speaker 2: did a lot of it was growing up in Jersey

1187
01:00:53,960 --> 01:00:55,000
Speaker 2: was like, you know.

1188
01:00:55,200 --> 01:00:55,720
Speaker 1: It was dope.

1189
01:00:56,520 --> 01:00:58,760
Speaker 2: I wish it was less aggressive.

1190
01:01:00,320 --> 01:01:01,920
Speaker 1: Because by the time I went to college in Miami,

1191
01:01:01,960 --> 01:01:03,400
Speaker 1: I'm like, who were fighting tonight?

1192
01:01:03,440 --> 01:01:04,960
Speaker 2: And everyone's like, nobody.

1193
01:01:05,120 --> 01:01:10,320
Speaker 1: Calmed down, Vammitch sequin shirt stop. I'm like, wait, fight nobody.

1194
01:01:11,120 --> 01:01:13,440
Speaker 1: So I'm so like, you know, I'm thankful for a

1195
01:01:13,480 --> 01:01:15,080
Speaker 1: lot of things. Well, like, no way, I used to

1196
01:01:15,120 --> 01:01:17,440
Speaker 1: fight that much. We had to get to our irol questions.

1197
01:01:17,440 --> 01:01:19,440
Speaker 1: But I have to ask you no Way before we do.

1198
01:01:19,560 --> 01:01:23,000
Speaker 1: I just have to ask you this, are you are

1199
01:01:23,080 --> 01:01:28,640
Speaker 1: you disappointed that maybe people didn't show up numbers.

1200
01:01:28,280 --> 01:01:30,560
Speaker 2: Wise the way they should have for this spot for

1201
01:01:31,200 --> 01:01:37,040
Speaker 2: the show. That's a really good question because it's it's

1202
01:01:37,080 --> 01:01:38,840
Speaker 2: a bigger question about society.

1203
01:01:40,680 --> 01:01:41,080
Speaker 1: What do you mean?

1204
01:01:42,600 --> 01:01:44,840
Speaker 2: It's why are we not showing up for women, women

1205
01:01:44,920 --> 01:01:48,320
Speaker 2: of color, queer people, fat people, brown and black people.

1206
01:01:49,040 --> 01:01:51,680
Speaker 2: It isn't just showing up for my comedy show. It's

1207
01:01:51,720 --> 01:01:54,400
Speaker 2: showing up for people trying to get their papers in

1208
01:01:54,560 --> 01:01:58,000
Speaker 2: order for ice or like you know, for immigration and

1209
01:01:58,160 --> 01:02:02,960
Speaker 2: still being detained and sometimes killed by ice. Do you

1210
01:02:03,000 --> 01:02:05,600
Speaker 2: know what I mean? It's showing up for marginalized communities,

1211
01:02:06,000 --> 01:02:08,960
Speaker 2: And so what do I expect?

1212
01:02:09,040 --> 01:02:09,880
Speaker 1: What did I expect?

1213
01:02:10,360 --> 01:02:15,280
Speaker 2: It's really hard to crack, you know, the code. That's

1214
01:02:15,320 --> 01:02:18,000
Speaker 2: why you have to celebrate the Quintas and everybody else,

1215
01:02:18,040 --> 01:02:22,840
Speaker 2: because it's really hard. Because I and I'm saying this

1216
01:02:22,960 --> 01:02:24,360
Speaker 2: as the most positive person.

1217
01:02:24,640 --> 01:02:26,840
Speaker 1: I was like, you're the glasses half full girl, I am.

1218
01:02:27,080 --> 01:02:30,400
Speaker 2: But I also have to be realistic in what society

1219
01:02:31,080 --> 01:02:35,200
Speaker 2: did these norms tell us and show us we have

1220
01:02:35,320 --> 01:02:37,560
Speaker 2: to show up for we have to show up for

1221
01:02:37,600 --> 01:02:39,120
Speaker 2: each other, and we have to respect each other. But

1222
01:02:39,320 --> 01:02:42,880
Speaker 2: like there's so many levels of like disrespect on just

1223
01:02:43,000 --> 01:02:46,560
Speaker 2: even comedy and female comedy. There's the reason why you're

1224
01:02:46,600 --> 01:02:49,560
Speaker 2: never gonna see Best Picture at the Oscars that's not

1225
01:02:49,720 --> 01:02:53,000
Speaker 2: only a comedy, but you know, probably with a bunch

1226
01:02:53,000 --> 01:02:56,120
Speaker 2: of black people, unless it's like pain porn. There's like,

1227
01:02:56,680 --> 01:03:00,160
Speaker 2: there's just a bigger picture that doesn't have to do

1228
01:03:00,280 --> 01:03:02,760
Speaker 2: with me. But I'm just gonna do my best to

1229
01:03:02,880 --> 01:03:05,920
Speaker 2: do what I do, and so do. I wish the

1230
01:03:06,040 --> 01:03:09,520
Speaker 2: numbers were like astronomical, just so I could say to like,

1231
01:03:09,960 --> 01:03:15,200
Speaker 2: you know, capitalism essentially, look at this, it matters, we matter,

1232
01:03:15,360 --> 01:03:17,760
Speaker 2: and now you can see because of the money. Yes,

1233
01:03:18,360 --> 01:03:20,880
Speaker 2: but the truth of the matter is a lot of

1234
01:03:20,880 --> 01:03:24,720
Speaker 2: people probably can't afford these platforms, or they just don't

1235
01:03:24,760 --> 01:03:27,360
Speaker 2: know about it because they're working, or it doesn't show

1236
01:03:27,400 --> 01:03:30,400
Speaker 2: up in their algorithm, because that doesn't serve the advertising,

1237
01:03:30,720 --> 01:03:31,800
Speaker 2: because everyone's.

1238
01:03:31,480 --> 01:03:32,280
Speaker 1: Like, who's this show for.

1239
01:03:34,040 --> 01:03:36,920
Speaker 2: If people don't et there's I remember Glad came to

1240
01:03:37,000 --> 01:03:40,880
Speaker 2: set for Peppermint's wedding episode in season two and shared

1241
01:03:40,920 --> 01:03:43,680
Speaker 2: some wild facts about trans people, and one of them

1242
01:03:43,880 --> 01:03:48,200
Speaker 2: was people in America, most people believe that they've seen

1243
01:03:48,240 --> 01:03:49,720
Speaker 2: a ghost before a trans person.

1244
01:03:53,040 --> 01:03:57,120
Speaker 1: So yes, But so all this to say, the bigger

1245
01:03:57,200 --> 01:03:57,800
Speaker 1: picture is.

1246
01:03:59,720 --> 01:04:03,560
Speaker 2: What we were saying about us, you know, the respect

1247
01:04:04,280 --> 01:04:09,920
Speaker 2: and the support we get as marginalized communities, like essentially.

1248
01:04:10,400 --> 01:04:14,040
Speaker 2: So wow, yeah, I don't remember the question at this point,

1249
01:04:14,080 --> 01:04:15,280
Speaker 2: I really went awful one or.

1250
01:04:15,320 --> 01:04:19,439
Speaker 1: Were you disappointed that, oh yes, that people didn't show

1251
01:04:19,480 --> 01:04:20,200
Speaker 1: up in a bigger way?

1252
01:04:20,480 --> 01:04:22,120
Speaker 2: But I feel yeah, and I feel like the people

1253
01:04:22,160 --> 01:04:24,840
Speaker 2: that needed it did show up, Like I can't. You

1254
01:04:24,960 --> 01:04:27,840
Speaker 2: can't compete with like people who literally are pouring their

1255
01:04:27,880 --> 01:04:31,400
Speaker 2: hearts out in DMS messages and letters to you of

1256
01:04:31,720 --> 01:04:35,280
Speaker 2: how this show say not only saved them, but like

1257
01:04:35,480 --> 01:04:37,880
Speaker 2: change how they saw themselves and people in the world.

1258
01:04:38,560 --> 01:04:41,000
Speaker 2: So I'm like, oh, job, will, dumbitch, you did it,

1259
01:04:41,760 --> 01:04:43,560
Speaker 2: you know what I mean? Yeah, And we had a

1260
01:04:43,600 --> 01:04:46,280
Speaker 2: good time off set, and we didn't trauma bond.

1261
01:04:47,040 --> 01:04:49,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know everybody.

1262
01:04:49,040 --> 01:04:53,040
Speaker 2: I know, everybody told their therapists they had a good time. Okay,

1263
01:04:53,440 --> 01:04:55,320
Speaker 2: I mean we didn't have any avocados, but other than that,

1264
01:04:55,440 --> 01:04:59,000
Speaker 2: the guacamolea that government tub did as well.

1265
01:05:01,640 --> 01:05:03,680
Speaker 1: Well done, then thank you so much. We'll then very

1266
01:05:03,680 --> 01:05:07,960
Speaker 1: well done. Well look here, so that now that you're

1267
01:05:08,000 --> 01:05:09,880
Speaker 1: moving forward, I know you're taking a break right now,

1268
01:05:09,960 --> 01:05:12,960
Speaker 1: a little break. I said that, Well, I'm taking like

1269
01:05:13,040 --> 01:05:16,280
Speaker 1: a mental like well not not that is what you

1270
01:05:16,360 --> 01:05:18,400
Speaker 1: said to me, I know, but not like a break

1271
01:05:18,440 --> 01:05:20,360
Speaker 1: where like don't call me, I'm not available, all right,

1272
01:05:20,480 --> 01:05:22,439
Speaker 1: call me, I'm available for you still have something set

1273
01:05:22,520 --> 01:05:24,840
Speaker 1: up right yet like kind of put maybe you got

1274
01:05:24,840 --> 01:05:27,640
Speaker 1: a little maybe got little seeds. Okay, you got seeds.

1275
01:05:27,800 --> 01:05:30,400
Speaker 1: But yes, I'm not like there is always wonder if

1276
01:05:30,440 --> 01:05:34,560
Speaker 1: you go into it differently based on where this landed

1277
01:05:34,600 --> 01:05:38,320
Speaker 1: in the world. Yeah, yeah, I mean, it's it's exciting,

1278
01:05:38,960 --> 01:05:41,840
Speaker 1: you know. I wrote a couple of things that I'm

1279
01:05:41,880 --> 01:05:47,640
Speaker 1: trying to see where they go. But like you know,

1280
01:05:48,000 --> 01:05:50,120
Speaker 1: I can't wait to see me too, Like I don't

1281
01:05:50,280 --> 01:05:52,480
Speaker 1: kind of how everybody shows up the way they're supposed to.

1282
01:05:52,600 --> 01:05:55,520
Speaker 2: For it, thank you? I mean August twenty first, I

1283
01:05:55,520 --> 01:05:58,440
Speaker 2: don't know when this rash. August twenty first, have a

1284
01:05:58,480 --> 01:06:01,320
Speaker 2: movie coming out called Spot Weekend Elizabeth Leslie Man, Anna

1285
01:06:01,400 --> 01:06:05,320
Speaker 2: Faris and Isla Fisher, and that's really fun because it

1286
01:06:05,400 --> 01:06:11,480
Speaker 2: is giving Mount rushmore comedy. Is there a reason that

1287
01:06:11,560 --> 01:06:13,680
Speaker 2: you say comedy so aggressively.

1288
01:06:15,840 --> 01:06:25,920
Speaker 1: So people know him sarruh's Oh my god? Wait were

1289
01:06:25,960 --> 01:06:29,200
Speaker 1: those questions? Those were most of those were my IRL

1290
01:06:29,320 --> 01:06:32,439
Speaker 1: questions haven't even begun the IRL question. Shit, hey guys,

1291
01:06:32,480 --> 01:06:34,640
Speaker 1: you ever signed up for a phone plan thinking Wow,

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01:06:34,720 --> 01:06:36,640
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Speaker 1: a month as long as they remain active on the

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Speaker 1: Boost Unlimited plan. Well, first, we have a voice note.

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Speaker 1: This is presented by Boost Mobiles. Is a segment where

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01:07:28,000 --> 01:07:31,000
Speaker 1: somebody calls in or sends a message or I don't

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Speaker 1: know what it is. Sometimes it's a comment. Sometimes it's

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01:07:32,960 --> 01:07:35,440
Speaker 1: a question. Okay, what do we got from Michelle today?

1311
01:07:36,440 --> 01:07:37,160
Speaker 1: So what's your name?

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01:07:37,200 --> 01:07:37,800
Speaker 2: Where you came from?

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01:07:37,840 --> 01:07:38,360
Speaker 1: Hey? Michelle?

1314
01:07:38,760 --> 01:07:39,680
Speaker 2: So fat girls.

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01:07:39,760 --> 01:07:42,560
Speaker 3: The movie with Monique was such a rare example of

1316
01:07:42,640 --> 01:07:45,480
Speaker 3: a plus sized black woman getting to be funny, romantic

1317
01:07:45,680 --> 01:07:49,160
Speaker 3: and fully realized on screen. Survival of the Thickest feels

1318
01:07:49,200 --> 01:07:51,840
Speaker 3: like it's building on that legacy. Was Monique or that

1319
01:07:51,960 --> 01:07:53,520
Speaker 3: film and inspiration for you at all?

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01:07:53,640 --> 01:07:55,960
Speaker 1: Oh my god? I want to say yes, but no,

1321
01:07:59,320 --> 01:08:03,080
Speaker 1: I want to say but no. It wasn't like Monique

1322
01:08:03,120 --> 01:08:04,720
Speaker 1: is always like Monique is always like.

1323
01:08:06,640 --> 01:08:10,920
Speaker 2: She's in the Zeigeist for me for sure. And it

1324
01:08:11,040 --> 01:08:14,520
Speaker 2: wasn't just that movie, like Monique is that bitch, you know,

1325
01:08:14,720 --> 01:08:17,960
Speaker 2: like the talk show, the movies, the stand up specials,

1326
01:08:18,280 --> 01:08:20,720
Speaker 2: the multi hyphen it, the loving yourself no matter what.

1327
01:08:21,240 --> 01:08:23,280
Speaker 2: So it wasn't necessarily that movie. It was just Monique

1328
01:08:23,320 --> 01:08:27,679
Speaker 2: in fact, like the mo the m Apostrophe, because there's

1329
01:08:27,760 --> 01:08:29,960
Speaker 2: more of her, like I put that in the show,

1330
01:08:30,240 --> 01:08:33,920
Speaker 2: like moment that's like episode one, season one, you know,

1331
01:08:34,160 --> 01:08:37,400
Speaker 2: when Khalil asked, Mavis, don't you always say think girls

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01:08:37,400 --> 01:08:41,120
Speaker 2: I have in a moment, She's like moment like m Apostrophe.

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01:08:41,600 --> 01:08:46,360
Speaker 2: You know so yes in that part, yes that you know,

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01:08:47,200 --> 01:08:49,720
Speaker 2: yes Monique there, but no not necessarily the.

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01:08:50,680 --> 01:08:54,080
Speaker 1: Sure you don't have to apologize for your truth. That's

1336
01:08:54,120 --> 01:08:56,400
Speaker 1: when I don't never mind if you took that move.

1337
01:08:58,040 --> 01:09:00,320
Speaker 1: You told us that today. All right, now we have

1338
01:09:00,320 --> 01:09:01,120
Speaker 1: an IRL ball.

1339
01:09:01,680 --> 01:09:02,439
Speaker 2: Go into the ball.

1340
01:09:02,720 --> 01:09:06,439
Speaker 1: Oh there's some meaningful in real life questions. Oh my god.

1341
01:09:06,840 --> 01:09:11,600
Speaker 2: Uh so pick up question. Oh look at y'all be

1342
01:09:11,680 --> 01:09:14,000
Speaker 2: printing stuff and cutting it out. Yeah, we have a crap.

1343
01:09:14,040 --> 01:09:15,839
Speaker 2: We have ll arts graph department.

1344
01:09:15,880 --> 01:09:16,639
Speaker 1: Oh my god. Oh.

1345
01:09:17,400 --> 01:09:19,800
Speaker 2: If you could instantly master any skill, what would it be.

1346
01:09:22,200 --> 01:09:24,400
Speaker 1: Quefing? Okay, see.

1347
01:09:26,680 --> 01:09:27,880
Speaker 2: You think that's right?

1348
01:09:28,040 --> 01:09:33,559
Speaker 1: Can't It's like would what would mastering that entail? Good question?

1349
01:09:33,640 --> 01:09:36,439
Speaker 2: I don't know, but if you were mastering it, you

1350
01:09:36,520 --> 01:09:39,200
Speaker 2: would know. I guess it's like direction of air.

1351
01:09:40,520 --> 01:09:44,639
Speaker 1: Oh, like like target targeting. Maybe carry on the next question.

1352
01:09:44,880 --> 01:09:45,160
Speaker 1: Thank you.

1353
01:09:48,160 --> 01:09:50,760
Speaker 2: If God were to text you right now, what would

1354
01:09:50,800 --> 01:09:51,200
Speaker 2: it say?

1355
01:09:51,560 --> 01:09:55,960
Speaker 1: It's text? Oh okay, that's my favorite question of the ball.

1356
01:09:56,160 --> 01:09:58,560
Speaker 1: Really it seems light, but try to answer it and

1357
01:09:58,600 --> 01:10:01,040
Speaker 1: see what happens for you. If you got a text

1358
01:10:01,080 --> 01:10:04,200
Speaker 1: message from God, yeah, what would it say to you?

1359
01:10:04,960 --> 01:10:07,000
Speaker 1: It would say something along the lines of keep going.

1360
01:10:07,040 --> 01:10:07,760
Speaker 1: You're doing the right thing.

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01:10:09,240 --> 01:10:12,080
Speaker 2: That's pretty good. I think it's pretty good too. That's

1362
01:10:12,439 --> 01:10:16,519
Speaker 2: often what she tells me. What's something you used to

1363
01:10:16,520 --> 01:10:18,960
Speaker 2: be embarrassed about that you own now? Oh my goodness,

1364
01:10:19,160 --> 01:10:20,080
Speaker 2: my body for sure.

1365
01:10:20,840 --> 01:10:23,360
Speaker 1: I thought you were never I thought you were always.

1366
01:10:23,800 --> 01:10:25,880
Speaker 2: No, I'm no, You're not born that way.

1367
01:10:26,000 --> 01:10:26,840
Speaker 1: You just yeah.

1368
01:10:26,880 --> 01:10:29,720
Speaker 2: I mean, I guess I don't think we're born with insecurities,

1369
01:10:29,760 --> 01:10:32,160
Speaker 2: but people put them on you, and I'm like, this

1370
01:10:32,360 --> 01:10:34,720
Speaker 2: is weird. I thought I was doing good, and I

1371
01:10:34,800 --> 01:10:36,880
Speaker 2: was like, oh, I guess I'm I never saw myself

1372
01:10:36,960 --> 01:10:39,400
Speaker 2: in magazines were chiev each like, so I didn't know,

1373
01:10:39,680 --> 01:10:41,880
Speaker 2: and so I would cover up and be like, I

1374
01:10:41,920 --> 01:10:46,920
Speaker 2: guess I'm not doing this. But man, the moment I

1375
01:10:47,000 --> 01:10:49,960
Speaker 2: found like a halter top or a tank top or

1376
01:10:50,040 --> 01:10:51,719
Speaker 2: like a thing or you know, when I just started

1377
01:10:51,720 --> 01:10:53,200
Speaker 2: to do me a little bit more, I'm like, this

1378
01:10:53,400 --> 01:10:56,360
Speaker 2: is good. Why would it be anything else? You know,

1379
01:10:56,560 --> 01:10:58,519
Speaker 2: And also like getting out of my mind of like

1380
01:10:58,640 --> 01:11:01,240
Speaker 2: am I not enough for him to be with me?

1381
01:11:02,600 --> 01:11:03,360
Speaker 1: That sucked.

1382
01:11:03,800 --> 01:11:05,840
Speaker 2: But the minute I was like, you're welcome to this

1383
01:11:05,960 --> 01:11:09,679
Speaker 2: body because it's amazing orgasm. Who knew?

1384
01:11:10,400 --> 01:11:14,880
Speaker 1: This is great? I know I'm just gonna do like

1385
01:11:14,920 --> 01:11:17,840
Speaker 1: a for every woman, no matter the size, because if

1386
01:11:17,880 --> 01:11:21,120
Speaker 1: it's not weight, it's the your hips or your brooding proportion,

1387
01:11:21,520 --> 01:11:23,840
Speaker 1: or it's short. Yeah. Well, I think there's all types

1388
01:11:23,880 --> 01:11:26,400
Speaker 1: of insecurities that's that do the same thing. It's not

1389
01:11:26,439 --> 01:11:30,040
Speaker 1: even about the specific insecurity. It's just the insecurities, yes,

1390
01:11:30,160 --> 01:11:32,360
Speaker 1: that are put on us, that are put on us

1391
01:11:32,439 --> 01:11:36,679
Speaker 1: that make us not enjoy life. It is a form

1392
01:11:36,760 --> 01:11:40,040
Speaker 1: of control. Oh oh, that's good.

1393
01:11:40,200 --> 01:11:46,120
Speaker 2: It is a form of control designed Yes, yes, and

1394
01:11:46,360 --> 01:11:49,040
Speaker 2: and and it goes back and it's like also biblical

1395
01:11:49,160 --> 01:11:53,160
Speaker 2: like it's a form of control. And dare I say

1396
01:11:53,320 --> 01:11:56,920
Speaker 2: mental abuse? Because what would it actually look like if

1397
01:11:56,920 --> 01:12:02,280
Speaker 2: if everyone actually loved themselves and they were enough mm hmm, equality,

1398
01:12:04,240 --> 01:12:07,120
Speaker 2: that's what would happen. Yeah, they don't want that, not

1399
01:12:07,240 --> 01:12:09,320
Speaker 2: at all, because then you gotta pay me what you

1400
01:12:09,479 --> 01:12:15,080
Speaker 2: owe me. What's one thing you hope never changes about you?

1401
01:12:16,600 --> 01:12:16,720
Speaker 1: Oh?

1402
01:12:16,800 --> 01:12:18,880
Speaker 2: My god, I don't know what do you think? What

1403
01:12:18,960 --> 01:12:20,760
Speaker 2: do I hope nothing that doesn't change about you?

1404
01:12:20,880 --> 01:12:24,720
Speaker 1: Yes? Okay, yes? Are you talking with the balls? You're

1405
01:12:24,760 --> 01:12:26,519
Speaker 1: bored now with the ball. You can keep going with

1406
01:12:26,560 --> 01:12:29,519
Speaker 1: the ball. What do I hope never changes about you. Yes,

1407
01:12:32,920 --> 01:12:37,280
Speaker 1: your glasses have fullness, but also the joy that you

1408
01:12:37,360 --> 01:12:43,000
Speaker 1: wrap that up in yeap for everyone else. Yes, is

1409
01:12:43,040 --> 01:12:44,639
Speaker 1: that a good answer? That's a very good answer.

1410
01:12:45,439 --> 01:12:52,240
Speaker 2: You're so pretty? Stop you're so pretty. Oh that's so nice,

1411
01:12:52,280 --> 01:12:56,040
Speaker 2: thank you, But like, oh, that's really sweet. When I

1412
01:12:56,160 --> 01:12:58,040
Speaker 2: did her show, you didn't say it about me. You

1413
01:12:58,120 --> 01:13:05,880
Speaker 2: only said about her. These are great questions. I sure,

1414
01:13:06,479 --> 01:13:09,080
Speaker 2: what is it fear that you are actively working through?

1415
01:13:12,160 --> 01:13:17,559
Speaker 2: That's a good one because you present yeah as fearless. Wow, really,

1416
01:13:17,600 --> 01:13:19,120
Speaker 2: I just told you I was so scared of spiders,

1417
01:13:19,160 --> 01:13:20,120
Speaker 2: like right before we saw.

1418
01:13:20,080 --> 01:13:21,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, but that's not the same thing. It's not.

1419
01:13:22,320 --> 01:13:24,120
Speaker 2: No, you're not scared of spiders is going to stop

1420
01:13:24,200 --> 01:13:25,080
Speaker 2: you from living your life?

1421
01:13:25,560 --> 01:13:27,840
Speaker 1: That's true, but I don't go camping. Well then, so

1422
01:13:28,000 --> 01:13:31,200
Speaker 1: maybe slightly living your life if you wanted to camp.

1423
01:13:32,479 --> 01:13:36,479
Speaker 1: But you present as fearless. Yeah, So are there fears

1424
01:13:36,520 --> 01:13:38,240
Speaker 1: that you've had to overcome to be able to be

1425
01:13:38,439 --> 01:13:45,920
Speaker 1: the person that you are? I? Yes, yes, yes, but

1426
01:13:46,360 --> 01:13:52,439
Speaker 1: the inevitable is my ultimate fear, which is death.

1427
01:13:57,240 --> 01:13:59,880
Speaker 2: Sorry, no, you're bringing to stop. Don't stop there.

1428
01:14:00,120 --> 01:14:05,200
Speaker 1: Oh this is a really good ball. You shouldn't have

1429
01:14:05,280 --> 01:14:07,200
Speaker 1: some money in here. I know it will Usually people

1430
01:14:07,280 --> 01:14:09,640
Speaker 1: just picked one, but you do like a glutton for that.

1431
01:14:12,160 --> 01:14:14,920
Speaker 1: I wasn't going to stop you. No, I wasn't going

1432
01:14:14,960 --> 01:14:17,559
Speaker 1: to stop you. It's just that you were so good.

1433
01:14:17,600 --> 01:14:19,840
Speaker 1: I didn't want to stop you. That could be the

1434
01:14:19,920 --> 01:14:22,679
Speaker 1: last one. But that could be the last one. But yeah,

1435
01:14:22,840 --> 01:14:26,240
Speaker 1: we under death. We ended death. But it's not death,

1436
01:14:27,120 --> 01:14:30,840
Speaker 1: it's fear of death. Yeah, because fear of losing people.

1437
01:14:31,479 --> 01:14:34,040
Speaker 1: Oh so that your fear of death is other people dying,

1438
01:14:34,240 --> 01:14:38,400
Speaker 1: not you dying both. Yes, Okay, there's levels to this.

1439
01:14:38,680 --> 01:14:40,400
Speaker 1: There is because I have people who think about it

1440
01:14:40,680 --> 01:14:42,240
Speaker 1: all the time. I know people who think about it

1441
01:14:42,360 --> 01:14:45,599
Speaker 1: all the time, and then some people who don't fear

1442
01:14:45,640 --> 01:14:49,160
Speaker 1: it at all at all. Yeah. Usually the people who

1443
01:14:49,280 --> 01:14:51,680
Speaker 1: have come really close to it don't really fear it

1444
01:14:53,479 --> 01:14:59,000
Speaker 1: as much. Yeah. I don't know where do you sit?

1445
01:14:59,520 --> 01:15:03,400
Speaker 1: I you know what this podcast was called. When we

1446
01:15:03,479 --> 01:15:07,640
Speaker 1: first launched the pod, it was called We're all going

1447
01:15:07,720 --> 01:15:11,840
Speaker 1: to die, so we better start living? Would you have

1448
01:15:12,120 --> 01:15:14,120
Speaker 1: would you have come to the show if that? If

1449
01:15:14,160 --> 01:15:15,840
Speaker 1: that was the name of it, I'll come to any

1450
01:15:15,880 --> 01:15:20,200
Speaker 1: show you do. Yeah, But it was called that because

1451
01:15:20,200 --> 01:15:22,400
Speaker 1: I had had a lot of loss at that time. Also,

1452
01:15:22,439 --> 01:15:23,599
Speaker 1: I was in a really bad car as I saw

1453
01:15:23,600 --> 01:15:25,599
Speaker 1: all these things, and I realized, we're all going to die,

1454
01:15:25,680 --> 01:15:26,840
Speaker 1: Like what do I really want to do? What do

1455
01:15:26,920 --> 01:15:30,120
Speaker 1: I really care about? Knowing that our time here is limited?

1456
01:15:30,520 --> 01:15:32,759
Speaker 1: What's important to me? And so that was the concept

1457
01:15:33,000 --> 01:15:35,040
Speaker 1: of it. But I realized that would scare some people off.

1458
01:15:35,080 --> 01:15:36,519
Speaker 1: So we went to in real life, like what do

1459
01:15:36,560 --> 01:15:38,040
Speaker 1: we what do we care about in real life? And

1460
01:15:38,120 --> 01:15:41,200
Speaker 1: so we landed in real life. But yeah, I'm very

1461
01:15:41,240 --> 01:15:44,080
Speaker 1: interested in the subject because I do think it our

1462
01:15:44,200 --> 01:15:48,879
Speaker 1: fear of it. Sometimes I don't know, it's it controls

1463
01:15:49,040 --> 01:15:52,360
Speaker 1: how we how we live and what we do at

1464
01:15:52,360 --> 01:15:55,880
Speaker 1: the time we have and sometimes we get we get

1465
01:15:55,920 --> 01:15:58,519
Speaker 1: scared to do certain things because what we live in

1466
01:15:58,600 --> 01:16:01,160
Speaker 1: fear or worry or can I don't know.

1467
01:16:01,320 --> 01:16:02,479
Speaker 2: I just wonder where it lands for you.

1468
01:16:03,479 --> 01:16:05,679
Speaker 1: I Yeah, no, I'm fearless.

1469
01:16:05,720 --> 01:16:11,400
Speaker 2: I'm definitely fearless because because it's coming, you know, and

1470
01:16:11,520 --> 01:16:15,320
Speaker 2: so so and that's why I started stand up, because

1471
01:16:15,920 --> 01:16:18,160
Speaker 2: after nine eleven, I'm like, oh, we might die, so

1472
01:16:18,280 --> 01:16:19,200
Speaker 2: we better start living.

1473
01:16:19,720 --> 01:16:20,200
Speaker 1: Oh that's right.

1474
01:16:20,280 --> 01:16:23,559
Speaker 2: So you were fueled by that too, I did hear that. Yeah,

1475
01:16:23,800 --> 01:16:26,719
Speaker 2: and my dad has had dementia for a long time,

1476
01:16:26,840 --> 01:16:29,639
Speaker 2: and he's sort of like wasting away, and so it's

1477
01:16:29,680 --> 01:16:34,120
Speaker 2: like this prolonged goodbye but also like a prolong like

1478
01:16:34,320 --> 01:16:36,960
Speaker 2: I still have you, Like it's just a very And

1479
01:16:37,080 --> 01:16:42,920
Speaker 2: then you know people that are very close to me

1480
01:16:43,800 --> 01:16:49,680
Speaker 2: that have cancer, it's uh, it's death. That's the one

1481
01:16:49,760 --> 01:16:52,679
Speaker 2: thing that we can't control that we can't control.

1482
01:16:53,240 --> 01:16:53,920
Speaker 1: Fuck it sucks.

1483
01:16:54,080 --> 01:16:56,560
Speaker 2: It fucking sucks, and I want them here. Yeah, and

1484
01:16:56,640 --> 01:16:57,320
Speaker 2: I want them here.

1485
01:16:57,520 --> 01:17:01,640
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, I have two friends dealing with parents with

1486
01:17:01,760 --> 01:17:07,679
Speaker 1: dementia right now. What a challenging kind of roller coaster.

1487
01:17:08,920 --> 01:17:12,680
Speaker 1: Very yeah, very But but to your point, there's some

1488
01:17:12,880 --> 01:17:18,799
Speaker 1: type of collateral beauty like in appreciating, Yeah, the moments.

1489
01:17:19,080 --> 01:17:21,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's almost like I get to take care of

1490
01:17:21,200 --> 01:17:27,559
Speaker 2: my dad now. But it's also like the thing where

1491
01:17:27,680 --> 01:17:30,200
Speaker 2: like I know he wouldn't have wanted this, but I'm

1492
01:17:30,200 --> 01:17:33,120
Speaker 2: looking at him and he's so happy, but then he's

1493
01:17:33,160 --> 01:17:37,240
Speaker 2: also like, you know not, It's just it is a

1494
01:17:37,600 --> 01:17:44,920
Speaker 2: very fucked up, confusing thing where you just truly it

1495
01:17:45,160 --> 01:17:48,200
Speaker 2: humanizes every and anything you can ever be with, do

1496
01:17:48,200 --> 01:17:51,160
Speaker 2: you know what I mean? And uh, like even my

1497
01:17:51,360 --> 01:17:54,120
Speaker 2: kids when I show them pictures like of them with

1498
01:17:54,320 --> 01:17:56,200
Speaker 2: my dad three years ago. They're like, who's that guy?

1499
01:17:56,240 --> 01:17:59,360
Speaker 2: I'm like, that is your grandfather playing with you, the

1500
01:17:59,439 --> 01:18:03,360
Speaker 2: scary guy in the bed. And I'm like, he's not scary.

1501
01:18:04,160 --> 01:18:04,360
Speaker 3: You know.

1502
01:18:04,600 --> 01:18:11,000
Speaker 1: That's tough, tough, and so yeah, it's just yeah, death,

1503
01:18:12,360 --> 01:18:14,720
Speaker 1: that's this is a shitty way to end the conversation.

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01:18:15,160 --> 01:18:18,000
Speaker 1: It's pretty great, you think so, think so we had

1505
01:18:18,040 --> 01:18:22,160
Speaker 1: such a like bright, happy conversation.

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01:18:23,240 --> 01:18:26,280
Speaker 2: We can't land it on us. No, I don't think.

1507
01:18:26,360 --> 01:18:30,080
Speaker 1: So go back at the go, back at the ball,

1508
01:18:32,360 --> 01:18:36,800
Speaker 1: back at the ball. I go, bitch, question, what are

1509
01:18:36,840 --> 01:18:40,200
Speaker 1: some of your pet peeves or triggers? Oh? How much

1510
01:18:40,280 --> 01:18:42,600
Speaker 1: time we got? Tell me that was before you go?

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01:18:44,040 --> 01:18:46,360
Speaker 2: I mean, I think, I mean.

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01:18:46,320 --> 01:18:47,719
Speaker 1: Adults that act like children.

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01:18:47,800 --> 01:18:49,240
Speaker 2: Do you need a pillow on a fucking plane?

1514
01:18:49,520 --> 01:18:50,000
Speaker 1: You don't.

1515
01:18:50,840 --> 01:18:53,000
Speaker 2: Do you need to complain about your food allergy? No,

1516
01:18:53,400 --> 01:18:56,840
Speaker 2: fucking be an adult person. Order what the fuck you

1517
01:18:56,880 --> 01:18:58,520
Speaker 2: gotta order, and don't tell me about.

1518
01:18:59,840 --> 01:19:02,960
Speaker 1: Your gas at dinner.

1519
01:19:03,280 --> 01:19:06,679
Speaker 2: At dinner, stop trying to put pet peet. When somebody

1520
01:19:06,880 --> 01:19:09,639
Speaker 2: wants to yuck, you're yum when they do the yeah,

1521
01:19:09,720 --> 01:19:12,280
Speaker 2: but get the fuck out of here. Talk to your

1522
01:19:12,320 --> 01:19:13,320
Speaker 2: mom about that bullshit.

1523
01:19:13,439 --> 01:19:14,679
Speaker 1: Somebody who yucks you'r yum.

1524
01:19:14,800 --> 01:19:19,240
Speaker 2: No yuck, my yum ever ever, this is my yummy moment?

1525
01:19:20,040 --> 01:19:22,720
Speaker 1: Is your husband? Is your husband good at that? Not yuck?

1526
01:19:22,760 --> 01:19:23,280
Speaker 2: And you're yum?

1527
01:19:23,520 --> 01:19:24,240
Speaker 1: No, he's a virgo?

1528
01:19:24,720 --> 01:19:25,840
Speaker 2: Does he's born to yuck?

1529
01:19:26,040 --> 01:19:28,040
Speaker 1: Oh? Really? I thought that was going to be the

1530
01:19:28,120 --> 01:19:30,760
Speaker 1: key to your to finding the right person for you.

1531
01:19:31,640 --> 01:19:32,679
Speaker 1: You know, it's so funny.

1532
01:19:34,160 --> 01:19:37,559
Speaker 2: It's so funny because he has to think about everything

1533
01:19:37,600 --> 01:19:41,360
Speaker 2: he does and like read the comments and and you know,

1534
01:19:41,680 --> 01:19:43,920
Speaker 2: and not the comments or what is it called when

1535
01:19:43,920 --> 01:19:47,240
Speaker 2: people like leave reviews about something. He has to be

1536
01:19:47,360 --> 01:19:48,800
Speaker 2: very organized in his thought process.

1537
01:19:48,920 --> 01:19:51,639
Speaker 1: I'm like, or we could do it and then fuck

1538
01:19:51,760 --> 01:19:53,960
Speaker 1: up and learn from our mistake. I love sucking up

1539
01:19:54,000 --> 01:19:55,800
Speaker 1: and learning from my massage. Oh it's my most favorite thing.

1540
01:19:55,800 --> 01:19:56,360
Speaker 1: What's your moon?

1541
01:19:57,160 --> 01:19:58,200
Speaker 2: My moon? Is it a fire?

1542
01:19:58,960 --> 01:20:01,680
Speaker 1: I don't know? Should I know? You should know? How

1543
01:20:01,720 --> 01:20:06,800
Speaker 1: do I find out? Ask somebody? Ooh yeah, oh I

1544
01:20:06,920 --> 01:20:08,360
Speaker 1: did this? Yeah I did it.

1545
01:20:08,520 --> 01:20:10,240
Speaker 2: Do you know your rising in your moon? No?

1546
01:20:10,800 --> 01:20:14,080
Speaker 1: Okay, would that serve me to know? Yes? It would?

1547
01:20:14,120 --> 01:20:17,719
Speaker 2: I think it's fire. Might have a fire in your chart? Okay?

1548
01:20:18,560 --> 01:20:20,280
Speaker 2: What is the fear that you're actually working through?

1549
01:20:21,520 --> 01:20:24,080
Speaker 1: Do I do that? I really think you've done all

1550
01:20:24,120 --> 01:20:26,040
Speaker 1: the damn wolves I'm trying to find.

1551
01:20:26,439 --> 01:20:28,200
Speaker 2: I'm really just stalling, letting you do it till I

1552
01:20:28,240 --> 01:20:31,680
Speaker 2: find my like some perfect Lately, I've been reminding myself that,

1553
01:20:32,040 --> 01:20:35,479
Speaker 2: oh it's okay, it's okay, it's okay to not be

1554
01:20:35,560 --> 01:20:39,640
Speaker 2: okay because menopause is like new for me. Oh you

1555
01:20:39,840 --> 01:20:43,280
Speaker 2: just it's new for me, and I don't sweat, but

1556
01:20:43,760 --> 01:20:46,120
Speaker 2: the hot flash makes me feel anxious, and I'm like,

1557
01:20:46,240 --> 01:20:50,760
Speaker 2: are we going to die? It was like, is there turbulence?

1558
01:20:50,840 --> 01:20:53,559
Speaker 2: Everyone looks so happy, and I'm like, can we turn

1559
01:20:53,640 --> 01:20:55,960
Speaker 2: the arron? And because it's like yeah, okay, I'm like

1560
01:20:57,320 --> 01:21:00,920
Speaker 2: so like it's a weird thing where I'm like, nobody

1561
01:21:01,000 --> 01:21:04,160
Speaker 2: else feels like that with something you used to be

1562
01:21:04,200 --> 01:21:07,040
Speaker 2: embarrassed about that now you own. What if every answer

1563
01:21:07,160 --> 01:21:11,960
Speaker 2: was just queping, you should totally do that? Okay, guilty pleasure.

1564
01:21:12,360 --> 01:21:16,679
Speaker 2: I found two here Democracy, Democracy, that's my guilty pleasure.

1565
01:21:16,960 --> 01:21:21,760
Speaker 1: MM. When everybody's gotta say, mom, what a kick? I

1566
01:21:21,880 --> 01:21:25,360
Speaker 1: am no longer fucking ho, I am no longer available for.

1567
01:21:26,960 --> 01:21:31,519
Speaker 2: You're bullshit? Do some get therapy. There's a whole you

1568
01:21:31,640 --> 01:21:34,160
Speaker 2: can you don't have to go in person. You can

1569
01:21:34,200 --> 01:21:38,719
Speaker 2: get your degree from DeVry online and also get therapy.

1570
01:21:41,240 --> 01:21:45,880
Speaker 2: The best advice someone has ever given you, Oh my god,

1571
01:21:46,080 --> 01:21:49,080
Speaker 2: so many things. Will Sylviance, who's a really funny comedian

1572
01:21:50,360 --> 01:21:52,200
Speaker 2: you know well love well.

1573
01:21:52,280 --> 01:21:55,360
Speaker 1: He does a lot of stuff with cipher yah cypha sounds.

1574
01:21:56,240 --> 01:21:59,000
Speaker 2: Will When I first started comedy, he was like one

1575
01:21:59,040 --> 01:22:02,800
Speaker 2: of the only straight dudes who was like who wasn't

1576
01:22:02,920 --> 01:22:06,840
Speaker 2: like touched my dick for stage time and uh, that

1577
01:22:07,000 --> 01:22:08,640
Speaker 2: wasn't his advice, but he was just nice to me,

1578
01:22:08,800 --> 01:22:12,600
Speaker 2: and he said, as soon as you get good in

1579
01:22:12,720 --> 01:22:15,920
Speaker 2: this room, go to another room where you suck, and

1580
01:22:16,000 --> 01:22:18,400
Speaker 2: that's how you get better. Because everybody wants to answer

1581
01:22:18,439 --> 01:22:19,080
Speaker 2: how do I make money?

1582
01:22:19,120 --> 01:22:19,719
Speaker 1: Have my money?

1583
01:22:19,800 --> 01:22:22,519
Speaker 2: And he was like, get good, get good, and I

1584
01:22:22,640 --> 01:22:24,400
Speaker 2: was like, oh, got you. And then I got good

1585
01:22:24,439 --> 01:22:27,160
Speaker 2: and I was like, oo, be so undeniable that nobody

1586
01:22:27,200 --> 01:22:30,439
Speaker 2: could fuck with you. And so that really helped me

1587
01:22:30,560 --> 01:22:33,040
Speaker 2: and like shaped me because then I was already fearless

1588
01:22:33,200 --> 01:22:35,240
Speaker 2: enough to like get on stage. But then like everybody

1589
01:22:35,320 --> 01:22:38,280
Speaker 2: puts the thing on you. Like even within comedy, when

1590
01:22:38,360 --> 01:22:39,720
Speaker 2: you make up your own rules, people are like, you

1591
01:22:39,800 --> 01:22:41,759
Speaker 2: got to go to this club, you gotta sit around

1592
01:22:41,800 --> 01:22:43,400
Speaker 2: and hang out. I'm like I want to fuck a

1593
01:22:43,479 --> 01:22:45,880
Speaker 2: hang out. I got friends, Okay, I want to see

1594
01:22:45,920 --> 01:22:48,040
Speaker 2: my friends. I want to hang with you fucks. I

1595
01:22:48,160 --> 01:22:49,479
Speaker 2: want to do what I want to do my set

1596
01:22:49,479 --> 01:22:51,200
Speaker 2: and want to go and I hang out with you

1597
01:22:51,240 --> 01:22:54,720
Speaker 2: and talk about your fucking joke. So that advice with

1598
01:22:54,800 --> 01:22:56,840
Speaker 2: some people who have had success. Sometimes you get content

1599
01:22:56,920 --> 01:23:00,080
Speaker 2: in your little box of success or. But to go

1600
01:23:00,160 --> 01:23:02,479
Speaker 2: into a different room, and that's a different kind of ego.

1601
01:23:02,600 --> 01:23:04,960
Speaker 2: That's an insecure ego, the one that always has to

1602
01:23:05,000 --> 01:23:07,679
Speaker 2: be big fish and be right. I think a really healthy,

1603
01:23:07,920 --> 01:23:10,360
Speaker 2: beautiful ego is the one that's working that doesn't mind

1604
01:23:10,439 --> 01:23:13,240
Speaker 2: like going into rooms where you don't know everything, but

1605
01:23:13,360 --> 01:23:14,680
Speaker 2: you still know what you know and you want to

1606
01:23:14,720 --> 01:23:16,960
Speaker 2: work with people. That's like the type of ego I

1607
01:23:17,040 --> 01:23:19,560
Speaker 2: want to work with. M Yeah, And how can you

1608
01:23:19,680 --> 01:23:21,400
Speaker 2: learn if you stay in that same little room.

1609
01:23:21,560 --> 01:23:23,639
Speaker 1: That's the thing. And people don't want to learn because

1610
01:23:23,640 --> 01:23:26,280
Speaker 1: they think they know everything. Okay, Will with the good advice.

1611
01:23:27,160 --> 01:23:28,599
Speaker 2: It's good advice, yeah, Will, it's good.

1612
01:23:28,680 --> 01:23:31,000
Speaker 1: You never know when you say something to somebody how

1613
01:23:31,080 --> 01:23:33,960
Speaker 1: it sits and lands with them forever. It's two thousand

1614
01:23:33,960 --> 01:23:36,280
Speaker 1: and two. Yeah, Yeah, And this last one, I'd like

1615
01:23:36,360 --> 01:23:38,720
Speaker 1: to end with this because when okay, because you got

1616
01:23:38,800 --> 01:23:40,720
Speaker 1: to end it. You got to end it at some

1617
01:23:40,800 --> 01:23:43,280
Speaker 1: point because we could literally sit here, then we could

1618
01:23:43,320 --> 01:23:45,439
Speaker 1: do a whole other interview and you could be Mavis

1619
01:23:45,520 --> 01:23:48,000
Speaker 1: and I could be Dawn.

1620
01:23:48,320 --> 01:23:55,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, Charles Renee, he was great. Run Ricau's amazing.

1621
01:23:55,360 --> 01:23:58,920
Speaker 1: But you had this incredible show movies. You're about to

1622
01:23:58,960 --> 01:24:02,679
Speaker 1: go on tour and Netflix special is going to be filmed,

1623
01:24:04,080 --> 01:24:09,040
Speaker 1: getting filmed. You've broken barriers. You're a great mom who

1624
01:24:10,120 --> 01:24:15,720
Speaker 1: adores her kids, sixteen year marriage, a long time, I

1625
01:24:15,800 --> 01:24:18,639
Speaker 1: mean a lot of successes in your life. Yeah, you're happy,

1626
01:24:19,200 --> 01:24:21,800
Speaker 1: you're taking care of your dad, You're seeing even the

1627
01:24:21,800 --> 01:24:24,960
Speaker 1: beauty in some of those moments. Yeah, Like, this is

1628
01:24:25,040 --> 01:24:27,800
Speaker 1: a lot that you've that you've done. What are you

1629
01:24:28,040 --> 01:24:33,120
Speaker 1: most proud of about yourself? All of those things that.

1630
01:24:33,240 --> 01:24:33,559
Speaker 3: I am.

1631
01:24:35,040 --> 01:24:37,880
Speaker 2: That no matter what I am, who I am, I'm

1632
01:24:37,960 --> 01:24:41,400
Speaker 2: still this thick, titty, freckle faces bitch that wants to

1633
01:24:41,920 --> 01:24:44,280
Speaker 2: make people laugh and trying to have a clean kitchen

1634
01:24:44,360 --> 01:24:46,960
Speaker 2: and manicured feet and have a good day, you know,

1635
01:24:48,320 --> 01:24:53,040
Speaker 2: and uh it it feels me to uplift people, you know.

1636
01:24:53,479 --> 01:24:56,400
Speaker 2: So yeah, then I'm that bitch that I still have

1637
01:24:56,520 --> 01:25:00,519
Speaker 2: friends from like first grade to high school of college

1638
01:25:00,560 --> 01:25:04,479
Speaker 2: that you know. I'm still that bitch. Yeah, fame is

1639
01:25:04,560 --> 01:25:07,760
Speaker 2: like what is fame? Famous? Just a tax bracket. We're

1640
01:25:07,840 --> 01:25:12,200
Speaker 2: like a fucking check on a social media page, you know.

1641
01:25:12,439 --> 01:25:17,800
Speaker 2: I think success is you know when you're happy, right,

1642
01:25:18,080 --> 01:25:20,200
Speaker 2: when you're happy, when you're a good person, you do

1643
01:25:20,320 --> 01:25:20,800
Speaker 2: good things.

1644
01:25:22,720 --> 01:25:23,479
Speaker 1: That's really good.

1645
01:25:23,720 --> 01:25:25,200
Speaker 2: Now, that's how you end the college.

1646
01:25:29,720 --> 01:25:36,040
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1647
01:25:36,080 --> 01:25:39,559
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