1 00:00:07,320 --> 00:00:10,960 Speaker 1: All right, it's another episode of splash Hit Territory. My 2 00:00:11,080 --> 00:00:13,960 Speaker 1: good friend and awesome colleague from the San Francisco Chronicle, 3 00:00:14,040 --> 00:00:17,400 Speaker 1: Susan Slusser, joins us again today. Susan, how are we doing? 4 00:00:17,440 --> 00:00:20,720 Speaker 1: How Scott Steel treaty? I'm back here in California. You're 5 00:00:20,720 --> 00:00:22,360 Speaker 1: still in Scott Steale. You've been there forever. 6 00:00:23,079 --> 00:00:25,959 Speaker 2: It's Saint Patrick's today, and it's an off day for 7 00:00:26,000 --> 00:00:28,920 Speaker 2: the giants, so who knows what I'll get up to later. 8 00:00:29,120 --> 00:00:31,640 Speaker 2: I haven't put on any green yet, so you tell 9 00:00:31,680 --> 00:00:34,040 Speaker 2: I haven't been out out yet, but we'll we'll change 10 00:00:34,080 --> 00:00:37,200 Speaker 2: that shortly. Big day to day getting the hair done, 11 00:00:37,560 --> 00:00:43,240 Speaker 2: so to the podcast after I got my hair all pretty. 12 00:00:43,320 --> 00:00:44,879 Speaker 3: Oh well, I'm worried. 13 00:00:45,120 --> 00:00:47,600 Speaker 1: In the morning, and I'll be worrying this tonight. The 14 00:00:47,640 --> 00:00:49,880 Speaker 1: same outfit all day. Coach to code. 15 00:00:49,880 --> 00:00:52,360 Speaker 3: So that's your only green. That's all the green you got, 16 00:00:52,400 --> 00:00:52,800 Speaker 3: you played for. 17 00:00:54,080 --> 00:00:56,320 Speaker 1: I had some a stuff still laying around, and you know, 18 00:00:56,480 --> 00:00:58,760 Speaker 1: I just took the flight back. I think it's worth it. 19 00:00:58,800 --> 00:01:02,480 Speaker 1: Mentioned the flight back from Phenix to San Francisco. I'm 20 00:01:02,520 --> 00:01:05,640 Speaker 1: walking down the aisle and this guy with white hair 21 00:01:05,800 --> 00:01:08,800 Speaker 1: goes FP and I go, yeah, I thought it was 22 00:01:08,800 --> 00:01:11,039 Speaker 1: a fan or something, and he stands up and he 23 00:01:11,080 --> 00:01:13,840 Speaker 1: goes Billy Bean, and I go, no way, I go, 24 00:01:14,600 --> 00:01:17,000 Speaker 1: I'm sitting right next to you in that seat by 25 00:01:17,000 --> 00:01:19,520 Speaker 1: the window. He was the aisle, and so we sat 26 00:01:19,600 --> 00:01:22,080 Speaker 1: next to each other on the way back. So I said, 27 00:01:22,120 --> 00:01:24,200 Speaker 1: real loud in first class, I said, I'm sitting next 28 00:01:24,200 --> 00:01:25,960 Speaker 1: to Brad Pitt and he said. 29 00:01:25,840 --> 00:01:27,880 Speaker 4: F you was his response to that. 30 00:01:28,319 --> 00:01:29,600 Speaker 1: And then we caught up on a bunch of a 31 00:01:29,760 --> 00:01:31,440 Speaker 1: stuff so I could have worre some of my a's things. 32 00:01:31,480 --> 00:01:32,840 Speaker 4: It was the best flight ever. 33 00:01:33,160 --> 00:01:35,000 Speaker 1: I got all the behind the scenes to the two 34 00:01:35,040 --> 00:01:38,120 Speaker 1: thousand and one Oakland A's about guys getting released, guys 35 00:01:38,160 --> 00:01:40,119 Speaker 1: getting traded, guys getting set down. 36 00:01:40,640 --> 00:01:41,639 Speaker 4: It was really good stuff. 37 00:01:41,760 --> 00:01:43,440 Speaker 3: And then such a giant. 38 00:01:44,240 --> 00:01:46,240 Speaker 2: We have to remember this this is a giants podcast, 39 00:01:46,240 --> 00:01:48,760 Speaker 2: so we both we've both got a little A's DNA 40 00:01:48,880 --> 00:01:50,800 Speaker 2: still is always. 41 00:01:50,520 --> 00:01:51,040 Speaker 3: A big deal. 42 00:01:51,360 --> 00:01:53,880 Speaker 2: So but we actually have to talk about something that 43 00:01:54,280 --> 00:01:56,440 Speaker 2: only has a few giants, only a few giants left. 44 00:01:58,080 --> 00:02:02,520 Speaker 2: We're going to talk about the WBC here, right like, 45 00:02:02,720 --> 00:02:06,160 Speaker 2: let's let's let's go all in. That's honestly, I have 46 00:02:06,320 --> 00:02:10,160 Speaker 2: never you know, in previous WBC's I don't remember players 47 00:02:10,280 --> 00:02:15,880 Speaker 2: and media around baseball being as into the WBC as 48 00:02:15,880 --> 00:02:18,560 Speaker 2: this year, Like this has been like kind of all 49 00:02:18,639 --> 00:02:22,840 Speaker 2: timer with with interest. I think, how are you saying 50 00:02:22,840 --> 00:02:24,000 Speaker 2: it same way? 51 00:02:24,200 --> 00:02:26,400 Speaker 1: I mean, it's growing, and we saw it go from 52 00:02:26,520 --> 00:02:28,800 Speaker 1: the USA not having their best players to the USA 53 00:02:28,919 --> 00:02:31,760 Speaker 1: having their absolute best players. And the game against the 54 00:02:31,840 --> 00:02:34,760 Speaker 1: dr was fantastic, the two to one win, all the 55 00:02:34,760 --> 00:02:38,040 Speaker 1: controversy with Mason Miller's last pitch, the three two slider 56 00:02:38,080 --> 00:02:41,120 Speaker 1: to Perdomo. You guys can stream the World Baseball Classic. 57 00:02:41,160 --> 00:02:44,840 Speaker 1: It's live till the fourteenth free trial period at Fox 58 00:02:44,840 --> 00:02:45,760 Speaker 1: one dot com. 59 00:02:45,800 --> 00:02:50,200 Speaker 2: It's through the seventeenth, yes obviously, yeah, yes, yeah. 60 00:02:50,080 --> 00:02:52,760 Speaker 1: Yeah, well yeah through the seventeenth. It's still going on. 61 00:02:52,800 --> 00:02:54,880 Speaker 1: We got the finals between USA and Venezuela. But the 62 00:02:54,919 --> 00:02:57,160 Speaker 1: last pitch from Miller to Perdomo, there was a lot 63 00:02:57,160 --> 00:02:59,480 Speaker 1: of controversy that the slider was down. Everybody was talking 64 00:02:59,520 --> 00:03:03,480 Speaker 1: about again yesterday we're doing our podcast today, and I 65 00:03:03,520 --> 00:03:05,720 Speaker 1: thought it was a pretty good pitch. I mean, you 66 00:03:05,760 --> 00:03:08,680 Speaker 1: talk about pitch framing and Will Smith and the way 67 00:03:08,720 --> 00:03:11,080 Speaker 1: you pulled that up. I will say it was low. 68 00:03:11,960 --> 00:03:13,760 Speaker 1: I can't not say it was low. And I think 69 00:03:13,800 --> 00:03:18,680 Speaker 1: We've trained fans with the ABS to see that box 70 00:03:18,720 --> 00:03:20,240 Speaker 1: on TV and see was a little bit low. But 71 00:03:20,280 --> 00:03:21,800 Speaker 1: I think when it crossed the plate, it was a 72 00:03:21,800 --> 00:03:24,160 Speaker 1: good pitch. And then we have the best pitch framer 73 00:03:24,200 --> 00:03:26,560 Speaker 1: in baseball and Patrick Bailey. He would have done even 74 00:03:26,560 --> 00:03:28,960 Speaker 1: a better job, I think than Will Smith and making 75 00:03:28,960 --> 00:03:30,640 Speaker 1: that look like a strike. But let's just say that 76 00:03:30,960 --> 00:03:33,359 Speaker 1: I can see why the dr was frustrated. I mean, 77 00:03:33,360 --> 00:03:35,880 Speaker 1: that was a big pitch, Fernando Tatis on deck, tying 78 00:03:35,960 --> 00:03:38,400 Speaker 1: run on third, two to one game, all the drama 79 00:03:38,440 --> 00:03:41,240 Speaker 1: on the ballpark. But I think you know, my take 80 00:03:41,280 --> 00:03:43,880 Speaker 1: on it is that give Will Smith a little bit 81 00:03:43,920 --> 00:03:46,320 Speaker 1: of credit for framing that pitch up because Giants fans 82 00:03:46,440 --> 00:03:49,360 Speaker 1: know we stole more strikes than any team in baseball 83 00:03:49,400 --> 00:03:50,559 Speaker 1: last year with Patrick. 84 00:03:50,280 --> 00:03:53,480 Speaker 2: Bailey, yeah, the last couple of years. Yeah, I mean, 85 00:03:53,480 --> 00:03:57,040 Speaker 2: it really is a skill. I really like the ABS system, 86 00:03:57,440 --> 00:04:00,560 Speaker 2: and what we're finding now in spring training is teams 87 00:04:00,560 --> 00:04:02,600 Speaker 2: are really trying to figure out how they're going to 88 00:04:02,640 --> 00:04:05,840 Speaker 2: use it during the season, which has led to recently 89 00:04:06,360 --> 00:04:09,040 Speaker 2: teams losing it really early and only we're going to 90 00:04:09,040 --> 00:04:11,000 Speaker 2: see a lot of that. But I wonder if it 91 00:04:11,080 --> 00:04:14,800 Speaker 2: was in the WBC, would they have still had their 92 00:04:14,920 --> 00:04:17,720 Speaker 2: challenge left at the very end for that, you know, 93 00:04:18,000 --> 00:04:22,919 Speaker 2: a final batter kind of situation, which is huge. I 94 00:04:22,920 --> 00:04:25,680 Speaker 2: think we're seeing in real time you want to save one. 95 00:04:26,080 --> 00:04:28,320 Speaker 2: You want to save one for when it you don't 96 00:04:28,360 --> 00:04:31,200 Speaker 2: know it might be the very last pitch of the game. 97 00:04:31,960 --> 00:04:34,000 Speaker 1: I've been saying that on the broadcast for the Giants 98 00:04:34,000 --> 00:04:36,599 Speaker 1: to spring training that I think if it's that at 99 00:04:36,720 --> 00:04:39,760 Speaker 1: Zach scenario I've painted on the air, where's three to two, 100 00:04:39,880 --> 00:04:43,240 Speaker 1: bottom of the ninth, close pitch game on the line, and. 101 00:04:43,160 --> 00:04:44,360 Speaker 4: You don't have a challenge. 102 00:04:44,720 --> 00:04:47,039 Speaker 1: So there's got to be a way that like teams, 103 00:04:47,040 --> 00:04:49,080 Speaker 1: whether it's a Giants or whomever, like, we're not going 104 00:04:49,160 --> 00:04:51,440 Speaker 1: to challenge the first three innings. We're going to old 105 00:04:51,440 --> 00:04:54,520 Speaker 1: school baseball. We need to save those for the late innings. 106 00:04:54,560 --> 00:04:56,040 Speaker 1: And if you do challenge. 107 00:04:55,640 --> 00:04:56,680 Speaker 4: Early, you've got to be right. 108 00:04:57,240 --> 00:05:02,000 Speaker 1: So controversial with any of that team finals against Team Venezuela, 109 00:05:02,400 --> 00:05:04,080 Speaker 1: we would be remiss if we didn't give a shout 110 00:05:04,080 --> 00:05:06,520 Speaker 1: out to my people Team Italia and Ron Wotis and 111 00:05:06,560 --> 00:05:09,000 Speaker 1: Da Virghetti for doing what they did and our old 112 00:05:09,000 --> 00:05:11,320 Speaker 1: friend Frank Menachino from the A's who's the hitting coach 113 00:05:11,360 --> 00:05:12,160 Speaker 1: on Team Italy? 114 00:05:12,200 --> 00:05:14,440 Speaker 4: Like they were the darlings, they were the Cinderellas. 115 00:05:14,480 --> 00:05:16,919 Speaker 1: I was pulling so hard for him last night, and 116 00:05:17,000 --> 00:05:18,760 Speaker 1: they came up short to Venezuela. 117 00:05:18,880 --> 00:05:22,360 Speaker 4: They were the home team, and there's never been a home. 118 00:05:22,160 --> 00:05:25,960 Speaker 1: Team with a greater disadvantage because that whole crowd in 119 00:05:26,000 --> 00:05:29,840 Speaker 1: Miami was Venezuelan's last night and the atmosphere was just incredible. 120 00:05:29,839 --> 00:05:31,760 Speaker 1: So we're going to see a good final. But shout 121 00:05:31,760 --> 00:05:33,800 Speaker 1: out to Team Italy. Man, that was really cool to 122 00:05:33,880 --> 00:05:34,400 Speaker 1: run they had. 123 00:05:35,160 --> 00:05:38,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, I think everybody got to wound up 124 00:05:38,200 --> 00:05:41,039 Speaker 2: with a real soft spot for Team Italy, whether you 125 00:05:41,080 --> 00:05:43,840 Speaker 2: have Italy connections at all or not. I was born 126 00:05:43,839 --> 00:05:46,760 Speaker 2: in Naples, so consider myself Italian, though you're way more 127 00:05:46,760 --> 00:05:51,279 Speaker 2: Italian than I am. Tony Mattello obviously has a rooting 128 00:05:51,320 --> 00:05:54,039 Speaker 2: interest in Italy. I think everybody just had so much 129 00:05:54,080 --> 00:05:57,640 Speaker 2: fun and Giants fans, you know, everybody who loves Dave Righetti, 130 00:05:57,760 --> 00:06:00,000 Speaker 2: everybody loves Ron wotis. 131 00:06:00,080 --> 00:06:01,200 Speaker 3: Uh that and that's fun. 132 00:06:01,240 --> 00:06:03,520 Speaker 2: It's always fun to see sort of a Cinderella in 133 00:06:03,560 --> 00:06:06,400 Speaker 2: any sport. But Team nobody would have called them going 134 00:06:06,520 --> 00:06:10,320 Speaker 2: that far. That's uh, and what this does for the 135 00:06:10,400 --> 00:06:13,839 Speaker 2: sport in other countries. That's why I was saying last 136 00:06:13,839 --> 00:06:16,920 Speaker 2: time with Brazil, you know, now they have to they 137 00:06:16,920 --> 00:06:20,000 Speaker 2: have to requalify. That's a huge country, it's so great 138 00:06:20,040 --> 00:06:23,200 Speaker 2: for baseball, and they were talking about how they one 139 00:06:23,240 --> 00:06:25,120 Speaker 2: of the things they're doing is taking back as much 140 00:06:25,160 --> 00:06:28,280 Speaker 2: equipment to Brazil as they can, because when you lose 141 00:06:28,320 --> 00:06:32,480 Speaker 2: your qualification, you lose your funding, and they have very 142 00:06:32,480 --> 00:06:35,080 Speaker 2: little equipment as it is. If I'm Major League Baseball 143 00:06:35,400 --> 00:06:38,839 Speaker 2: and I'm looking at that market Brazil, I'm like, heck, 144 00:06:39,120 --> 00:06:41,839 Speaker 2: here's all the funding you need for this program. We 145 00:06:41,920 --> 00:06:44,479 Speaker 2: want you to try to qualify again. We want this 146 00:06:44,560 --> 00:06:46,719 Speaker 2: to become the big sport. And look what it might do. 147 00:06:46,800 --> 00:06:47,240 Speaker 3: In Italy. 148 00:06:47,600 --> 00:06:51,479 Speaker 2: You know, it's been very the team Israel's you know, 149 00:06:51,839 --> 00:06:56,760 Speaker 2: excellent WBC a few few WBCs Ago had people really 150 00:06:56,800 --> 00:07:02,880 Speaker 2: talking about baseball there. Obviously the Dutch that's that's kind 151 00:07:02,920 --> 00:07:07,520 Speaker 2: of grown. So you look at South America, Venezuela, Colombia, 152 00:07:07,600 --> 00:07:11,800 Speaker 2: South American teams, Brazil. Yeah, sure it's Portuguese not Spanish, 153 00:07:12,560 --> 00:07:15,920 Speaker 2: but I would go all in on Brazil absolutely. Plus 154 00:07:16,000 --> 00:07:18,600 Speaker 2: how fun would that be wind up in the point 155 00:07:18,640 --> 00:07:21,320 Speaker 2: where we get some maybe some early rounds in Brazil. 156 00:07:21,760 --> 00:07:24,000 Speaker 3: You and me and Rio, let's do it. 157 00:07:24,360 --> 00:07:27,120 Speaker 1: I'm down, my son's my son's wife is from Brazil, 158 00:07:27,200 --> 00:07:30,160 Speaker 1: so that was a split household in the Brazil USA game. 159 00:07:30,280 --> 00:07:31,080 Speaker 4: And I want to say this. 160 00:07:31,040 --> 00:07:35,000 Speaker 1: About Italy, like there was so much support for every 161 00:07:35,040 --> 00:07:38,520 Speaker 1: team they were playing. They played on the road that 162 00:07:38,560 --> 00:07:42,600 Speaker 1: whole tournament, whether it was USA in Houston, whether it 163 00:07:42,640 --> 00:07:46,480 Speaker 1: was was it Venezuela last night, they were the road team, 164 00:07:47,000 --> 00:07:50,480 Speaker 1: So there wasn't tons of support other than Italian Americans 165 00:07:51,040 --> 00:07:53,480 Speaker 1: for Team Italy, and they had they were up against it. 166 00:07:53,520 --> 00:07:56,600 Speaker 1: So congratulations to those guys. We'll kind of turn the 167 00:07:56,600 --> 00:07:59,720 Speaker 1: page now from the WBC some what USA does in 168 00:07:59,720 --> 00:08:02,679 Speaker 1: the tchampionship game against Venezuela, that's gonna be a good one. 169 00:08:02,840 --> 00:08:05,400 Speaker 2: I've got one more thing to say about it. And 170 00:08:05,440 --> 00:08:08,800 Speaker 2: again Fox one did a great job. Love them and 171 00:08:08,840 --> 00:08:11,520 Speaker 2: thanks for help and sponsor all of our stuff here, 172 00:08:12,040 --> 00:08:15,520 Speaker 2: but also doing a nice job with the WBC. Jung 173 00:08:15,600 --> 00:08:18,000 Speaker 2: Hu Lee is back and he spoke to us yesterday 174 00:08:18,000 --> 00:08:22,480 Speaker 2: about how meaningful his experience was for South of Korea. 175 00:08:23,000 --> 00:08:25,680 Speaker 2: South Korea's first quarter finals, which actually is a little 176 00:08:25,680 --> 00:08:28,000 Speaker 2: surprising to me since two thousand and nine. He said 177 00:08:28,000 --> 00:08:30,920 Speaker 2: he was in fifth grade. He remembers it very clearly 178 00:08:31,680 --> 00:08:35,440 Speaker 2: watching on TV, and so it's huge. It's absolutely me 179 00:08:35,520 --> 00:08:38,079 Speaker 2: he said, I can't even describe to you how meaningful 180 00:08:38,600 --> 00:08:41,960 Speaker 2: playing in and getting that far with my home team, 181 00:08:42,080 --> 00:08:45,040 Speaker 2: how much that meant. And that was a huge deal 182 00:08:45,080 --> 00:08:49,120 Speaker 2: on Korea. So again another massive market. That's where baseball 183 00:08:49,200 --> 00:08:53,920 Speaker 2: is really really growing and really becoming a big, big deal. 184 00:08:54,600 --> 00:08:57,800 Speaker 2: And Jung Hu Lee was over the moon. Now he's 185 00:08:57,880 --> 00:09:00,440 Speaker 2: glad to get back. And that's another topic that's probably 186 00:09:00,480 --> 00:09:04,120 Speaker 2: a little more actually Giants related. But you know, the 187 00:09:04,160 --> 00:09:07,360 Speaker 2: outfield slowly come in back, Elliott Ramos, I presume we'll 188 00:09:07,360 --> 00:09:10,520 Speaker 2: be back after today's off day and we can finally 189 00:09:10,600 --> 00:09:12,200 Speaker 2: see this Giants outfield together. 190 00:09:13,280 --> 00:09:15,320 Speaker 1: Well, I was talking to Willia Damas about his trip 191 00:09:15,360 --> 00:09:18,280 Speaker 1: to Korea the other day and he said they got 192 00:09:18,280 --> 00:09:22,120 Speaker 1: off the plane and there was this huge billboard of 193 00:09:22,240 --> 00:09:24,640 Speaker 1: Jung Hu Lee like that he's a rock star there 194 00:09:24,679 --> 00:09:27,120 Speaker 1: and everywhere they went he was telling me stories one 195 00:09:27,160 --> 00:09:30,240 Speaker 1: of those like times square billboards of Junghu Right when 196 00:09:30,240 --> 00:09:32,880 Speaker 1: they got off the plane. He's like, man, this guy's 197 00:09:33,120 --> 00:09:35,880 Speaker 1: huge in Korea. So maybe we don't think about that 198 00:09:35,920 --> 00:09:38,480 Speaker 1: all the time. But he's like Otani is in Japan. 199 00:09:38,480 --> 00:09:42,160 Speaker 1: With Korea, I feel like based on talking to the guys, I. 200 00:09:42,120 --> 00:09:43,240 Speaker 3: Mean, he's huge in Korea. 201 00:09:43,480 --> 00:09:46,920 Speaker 2: Nobody's like Otanian in Japan. I don't even know if 202 00:09:46,920 --> 00:09:50,280 Speaker 2: there's any sort of comparison ever anywhere. You know, maybe 203 00:09:50,440 --> 00:09:53,800 Speaker 2: David Beckham and his prime in Europe, or you know, 204 00:09:54,480 --> 00:09:56,400 Speaker 2: MESSI someone like that. 205 00:09:56,400 --> 00:09:57,280 Speaker 3: That's all, that's it. 206 00:09:57,679 --> 00:10:03,000 Speaker 1: Or Godzilla Godzilla is big Japan too, Okay, the nice Godzilla, 207 00:10:03,120 --> 00:10:05,480 Speaker 1: not the mean Godzilla. I think Godzella changed over the 208 00:10:05,559 --> 00:10:07,040 Speaker 1: years and became an ally. 209 00:10:07,600 --> 00:10:10,160 Speaker 2: I feel like this is not my area of expertise, 210 00:10:10,200 --> 00:10:12,400 Speaker 2: so I'm just going to say, okay, all. 211 00:10:12,400 --> 00:10:14,280 Speaker 4: Right, let's talk some giants baseball. 212 00:10:14,320 --> 00:10:17,760 Speaker 1: Now, there's some news yesterday Tidwell got sent down to 213 00:10:17,800 --> 00:10:19,880 Speaker 1: the minor leagues. We can go over that a little bit, 214 00:10:19,920 --> 00:10:22,640 Speaker 1: and then we'll move on to maybe Bryce Eldridge and 215 00:10:22,679 --> 00:10:25,040 Speaker 1: then talk about the rotation. But first your oppressions of 216 00:10:25,040 --> 00:10:27,920 Speaker 1: Blade Tidwell and Camp and him getting sent down. What 217 00:10:27,920 --> 00:10:29,680 Speaker 1: did Tony say to you and what's the scoop? 218 00:10:30,160 --> 00:10:32,440 Speaker 2: Well, we haven't talked to Tony since they've made this move, 219 00:10:33,960 --> 00:10:37,480 Speaker 2: but you know, he knows Blade to tidwell better than anyone. 220 00:10:37,520 --> 00:10:39,480 Speaker 2: I think this is first of all, the rotation is, 221 00:10:39,720 --> 00:10:42,480 Speaker 2: and we'll get to the rotation. The rotation just looks set. 222 00:10:42,520 --> 00:10:45,480 Speaker 2: And when we talk about the young starters who are 223 00:10:45,640 --> 00:10:50,319 Speaker 2: maybe in the mix for one of those final bullpen spots, 224 00:10:50,360 --> 00:10:52,439 Speaker 2: I think Blade Tiddll was a guy that they really 225 00:10:52,480 --> 00:10:58,160 Speaker 2: want starting at Sacramento, staying stretched out, pitching every fifth day. 226 00:10:58,679 --> 00:11:01,560 Speaker 2: I think he's sort of at that stage of his development. 227 00:11:02,240 --> 00:11:04,720 Speaker 2: And then I think he's very much on the radar 228 00:11:04,920 --> 00:11:07,600 Speaker 2: if there's a need in the in the actual rotation. 229 00:11:08,480 --> 00:11:11,240 Speaker 2: He was sort of on the maybe a little bit 230 00:11:11,280 --> 00:11:14,079 Speaker 2: in that mix for the bullpen spot spot. But Trevor 231 00:11:14,160 --> 00:11:18,040 Speaker 2: McDonald's done it before. He's looked terrific. They've got a 232 00:11:18,080 --> 00:11:21,280 Speaker 2: few other guys who potentially Cavilla, but it to me 233 00:11:21,360 --> 00:11:24,920 Speaker 2: it looks like McDonald's kind of grab grabbed that. But 234 00:11:25,080 --> 00:11:28,360 Speaker 2: Blade had mixed results. But this stuff is great. I mean, 235 00:11:28,440 --> 00:11:31,079 Speaker 2: there's just no denying. A scout was talking to me 236 00:11:31,160 --> 00:11:36,079 Speaker 2: yesterday about how amazing that those trades Buster made last 237 00:11:36,120 --> 00:11:40,480 Speaker 2: mid season in moving uh, you know, two of two 238 00:11:40,559 --> 00:11:43,680 Speaker 2: of their best relievers, but getting back in absolute Hall 239 00:11:44,040 --> 00:11:46,679 Speaker 2: and and Tidwell's part of that. That's in fact that 240 00:11:46,720 --> 00:11:50,800 Speaker 2: the conversation sort of started with Tidwell. Uh A tremendous, 241 00:11:51,040 --> 00:11:54,280 Speaker 2: tremendous deals that Yankees deal, the Doval deal is just 242 00:11:54,320 --> 00:11:58,040 Speaker 2: looking like that's an all timer with how great Hayesus 243 00:11:58,120 --> 00:12:03,680 Speaker 2: Rodriguez has looked and Parks Harbor's looks like the Giants 244 00:12:03,720 --> 00:12:06,719 Speaker 2: have something there. So anyway, that's fun kind of digressing, 245 00:12:06,840 --> 00:12:09,880 Speaker 2: But I blade Tidwell has a spot on this roster 246 00:12:10,040 --> 00:12:13,480 Speaker 2: at some point this year for me, Yeah, I. 247 00:12:13,400 --> 00:12:15,800 Speaker 1: Mean he was a little inconsistent, but like you know, 248 00:12:16,160 --> 00:12:18,040 Speaker 1: it's hard to judge a guy just off a couple 249 00:12:18,080 --> 00:12:21,320 Speaker 1: of spring training appearances, and obviously they wanted to get 250 00:12:21,360 --> 00:12:24,000 Speaker 1: a little more seasoning, as Tony always says, and his 251 00:12:24,160 --> 00:12:27,120 Speaker 1: scrumbs and like little salt, little pepper, like some garlic 252 00:12:27,160 --> 00:12:29,480 Speaker 1: on there. I want to ask you this, and I'm 253 00:12:29,520 --> 00:12:32,160 Speaker 1: gonna put you on the spot right now. Let me 254 00:12:32,240 --> 00:12:34,480 Speaker 1: let me paint this scenario. It's opening day, it's against 255 00:12:34,480 --> 00:12:38,320 Speaker 1: the Yankees, Giants are up two to nothing. Logan does 256 00:12:38,360 --> 00:12:41,520 Speaker 1: his say six and a third and he shut him out. 257 00:12:41,559 --> 00:12:44,079 Speaker 1: Who's getting the last outs for the Giants in seven, 258 00:12:44,120 --> 00:12:47,520 Speaker 1: eight and nine? 259 00:12:50,320 --> 00:12:54,240 Speaker 3: Bhuto probably, you know what, I honestly I think, BUTO. 260 00:12:53,960 --> 00:12:58,160 Speaker 2: Probably in the seventh. I think it depends on where 261 00:12:58,240 --> 00:13:02,320 Speaker 2: in the order they the Yankee, right. I think if 262 00:13:02,360 --> 00:13:04,079 Speaker 2: there's a bunch of lefties coming up in the eighth, 263 00:13:04,120 --> 00:13:05,840 Speaker 2: it's Eric Miller. That's a no brainer, and then you 264 00:13:05,880 --> 00:13:09,079 Speaker 2: go to Walker. I think that if it's reversed, it's 265 00:13:09,160 --> 00:13:12,079 Speaker 2: the other way around. I think they'll be pretty comfortable 266 00:13:12,440 --> 00:13:16,200 Speaker 2: swapping those guys in and out, a little bit match 267 00:13:16,240 --> 00:13:20,120 Speaker 2: upy and kind of being a slightly two headed closer. 268 00:13:20,320 --> 00:13:23,719 Speaker 2: I think Ryan Walker, at least initially, will probably get 269 00:13:23,720 --> 00:13:28,360 Speaker 2: the bulk of the closing. But yeah, that's definitely still 270 00:13:28,400 --> 00:13:30,680 Speaker 2: one where we don't during the spring. 271 00:13:30,760 --> 00:13:32,280 Speaker 3: They're just not used like that. 272 00:13:32,400 --> 00:13:35,000 Speaker 2: And of course Eric Miller's just coming back from the 273 00:13:35,040 --> 00:13:37,040 Speaker 2: back thing and you know all the stuff he was 274 00:13:37,040 --> 00:13:39,800 Speaker 2: dealing last year with the elbow sprain. 275 00:13:40,080 --> 00:13:42,000 Speaker 3: So we don't really know. 276 00:13:42,440 --> 00:13:45,400 Speaker 2: And Tony Vaytello, I fully believe it's going to be 277 00:13:45,440 --> 00:13:47,960 Speaker 2: one of those managers who just doesn't ever say who 278 00:13:48,000 --> 00:13:51,079 Speaker 2: the closer is and we'll just have to watch and 279 00:13:51,160 --> 00:13:53,480 Speaker 2: find out. But I do he said a lot of 280 00:13:53,559 --> 00:13:56,679 Speaker 2: nice things about both Miller and Walker, but he does 281 00:13:56,760 --> 00:13:59,439 Speaker 2: not seem to have any problem at all with Ryan 282 00:13:59,480 --> 00:14:01,160 Speaker 2: Walker work in the Night. 283 00:14:02,280 --> 00:14:04,280 Speaker 1: Yeah, until he does have a problem with that, and 284 00:14:04,280 --> 00:14:06,839 Speaker 1: then maybe Eric Miller's got closer stuff if the health 285 00:14:07,640 --> 00:14:11,160 Speaker 1: stays healthy. Uh, I would say this, stay tuned for 286 00:14:11,240 --> 00:14:15,319 Speaker 1: something like. I feel like there's something going on where 287 00:14:16,080 --> 00:14:16,680 Speaker 1: I don't. 288 00:14:16,480 --> 00:14:18,719 Speaker 4: Know what the deal is, but I feel like. 289 00:14:19,000 --> 00:14:21,280 Speaker 1: I feel like there could be another reliever in the 290 00:14:21,280 --> 00:14:23,600 Speaker 1: mix somewhere that we just don't even know about yet. 291 00:14:23,800 --> 00:14:26,480 Speaker 3: And that's that's my Hope's still out there, you know. 292 00:14:27,440 --> 00:14:29,360 Speaker 2: I think he's got a few little help things that 293 00:14:29,400 --> 00:14:32,880 Speaker 2: maybe are scaring some teams off, but you know, it's 294 00:14:33,800 --> 00:14:34,720 Speaker 2: he's still out there. 295 00:14:35,880 --> 00:14:38,480 Speaker 1: I think the Giants are trading Bryce Eldridge for Edwin 296 00:14:38,560 --> 00:14:41,920 Speaker 1: Diaz to the Dodgers. I think that's the Can you 297 00:14:42,000 --> 00:14:43,320 Speaker 1: imagine when's the. 298 00:14:43,320 --> 00:14:45,360 Speaker 4: Last time the Giants and Dodgers did a deal. 299 00:14:45,840 --> 00:14:48,040 Speaker 2: Please, please, somebody out there, do not take that and 300 00:14:48,120 --> 00:14:50,160 Speaker 2: run with it and say that that's what we're recording. 301 00:14:50,200 --> 00:14:50,720 Speaker 3: That is not. 302 00:14:52,480 --> 00:14:54,000 Speaker 4: This stupid podcast. 303 00:14:54,040 --> 00:14:57,920 Speaker 1: They clip things, so I'm joking, clip that. Okay, let 304 00:14:58,040 --> 00:15:00,320 Speaker 1: let's talk about Bryce Eldridge since I mentioned him a 305 00:15:00,360 --> 00:15:02,560 Speaker 1: little bit. You had a nice piece on him the 306 00:15:02,600 --> 00:15:05,640 Speaker 1: other day in the chronicle talking about his average is dipped, 307 00:15:05,680 --> 00:15:07,800 Speaker 1: but he's still playing good at first base. Do we 308 00:15:07,880 --> 00:15:10,480 Speaker 1: really care about the average in spring training? For me, 309 00:15:10,560 --> 00:15:14,000 Speaker 1: it's more about presence, how you carry yourself in spring training? 310 00:15:14,000 --> 00:15:16,440 Speaker 1: Do you look like a big leaguer? And I talked 311 00:15:16,440 --> 00:15:18,520 Speaker 1: to Bruce Bochie on the bench the other day and 312 00:15:18,560 --> 00:15:21,520 Speaker 1: I said, Boach, as a manager, did you worry about 313 00:15:21,800 --> 00:15:24,120 Speaker 1: like in spring training when you're setting your roster, about 314 00:15:24,160 --> 00:15:26,280 Speaker 1: guys that were at options, guys who were this, or 315 00:15:26,320 --> 00:15:28,680 Speaker 1: did you just want the best twenty five guys? I said, 316 00:15:28,720 --> 00:15:31,920 Speaker 1: it's twenty six, now, best twenty five guys on the team, 317 00:15:31,960 --> 00:15:32,760 Speaker 1: and he goes FP. 318 00:15:32,680 --> 00:15:34,600 Speaker 4: I didn't care about any of that. I just wanted 319 00:15:34,600 --> 00:15:36,240 Speaker 4: the best twenty five guys on my team. 320 00:15:36,240 --> 00:15:39,520 Speaker 1: And that's kind of my philosophy too, where everybody's analyzing 321 00:15:39,640 --> 00:15:42,520 Speaker 1: like Matos is out of options in carnaci Oons out 322 00:15:42,520 --> 00:15:45,760 Speaker 1: of options. They're both playing well. You got Will Brennan 323 00:15:45,800 --> 00:15:48,680 Speaker 1: who's playing well, and the Elders thing has a trickle 324 00:15:48,680 --> 00:15:50,760 Speaker 1: down to all that with Jesus Rodriguez, who I think 325 00:15:50,840 --> 00:15:54,040 Speaker 1: should be on the team. That because back to ball 326 00:15:54,080 --> 00:15:56,200 Speaker 1: skills off the charts and wherever you put him, we 327 00:15:56,240 --> 00:15:56,720 Speaker 1: can play. 328 00:15:57,000 --> 00:15:59,480 Speaker 4: He could be your super duper utility guy. 329 00:16:00,040 --> 00:16:02,160 Speaker 1: But like, what's your thoughts on Bryce making the team. 330 00:16:02,480 --> 00:16:04,240 Speaker 4: I was really bullish. 331 00:16:03,800 --> 00:16:06,400 Speaker 1: On it a few days ago, and then I read 332 00:16:06,400 --> 00:16:08,600 Speaker 1: your article and it sounds like the people you're talking 333 00:16:08,640 --> 00:16:10,760 Speaker 1: to off the record, on the record, it's kind of 334 00:16:10,800 --> 00:16:13,360 Speaker 1: fifty to fifty or he's going to tripa a for 335 00:16:13,440 --> 00:16:14,040 Speaker 1: more seasoning. 336 00:16:15,000 --> 00:16:18,840 Speaker 2: Well, I would definitely say that it's a little more 337 00:16:18,840 --> 00:16:20,800 Speaker 2: fifty to fifty than it was. If you'd asked me 338 00:16:21,400 --> 00:16:23,600 Speaker 2: even two weeks ago, I would have said, I'm pretty 339 00:16:23,600 --> 00:16:25,840 Speaker 2: sure by Seldridge is on this roster, And a lot 340 00:16:25,840 --> 00:16:27,320 Speaker 2: of it does have to do with sort of what 341 00:16:27,360 --> 00:16:30,000 Speaker 2: you're talking about, the confidence sophistication. 342 00:16:30,360 --> 00:16:31,440 Speaker 3: This is a guy who. 343 00:16:31,240 --> 00:16:34,840 Speaker 2: Looks and acts like he belongs and he's done well 344 00:16:34,960 --> 00:16:37,360 Speaker 2: at first base, certainly well enough. He's not going to 345 00:16:37,400 --> 00:16:40,720 Speaker 2: get the bulk of time there whenever he's up. But 346 00:16:40,880 --> 00:16:43,200 Speaker 2: you look at it, and this has as much to 347 00:16:43,240 --> 00:16:45,520 Speaker 2: do with the out of option guys as anything, because 348 00:16:46,120 --> 00:16:49,720 Speaker 2: they've got two major ones Mantosen and Carnaciona, as you've mentioned, 349 00:16:50,160 --> 00:16:52,240 Speaker 2: and then they've got a Rule five player and Daniel 350 00:16:52,280 --> 00:16:56,160 Speaker 2: Sussac and most teams at least initially, and again we've 351 00:16:56,200 --> 00:16:59,240 Speaker 2: talked so much about this, but we focus on that 352 00:16:59,400 --> 00:17:02,560 Speaker 2: one day roster. At one hundred and sixty two games, 353 00:17:02,600 --> 00:17:06,639 Speaker 2: you could change your roster any of those days, I think, 354 00:17:06,800 --> 00:17:09,280 Speaker 2: especially with those two days off in the first five days, 355 00:17:09,280 --> 00:17:11,720 Speaker 2: they've got so much wiggle run. First of all, this 356 00:17:11,840 --> 00:17:14,000 Speaker 2: might not even be a question. They might be able 357 00:17:14,000 --> 00:17:17,200 Speaker 2: to just take all of them and leave a starter 358 00:17:17,359 --> 00:17:20,879 Speaker 2: behind because they don't need a fifth starter until the 359 00:17:20,960 --> 00:17:24,600 Speaker 2: second week of the season. So there you go the 360 00:17:24,640 --> 00:17:27,480 Speaker 2: opening night with roster. This might not even be something 361 00:17:27,480 --> 00:17:30,280 Speaker 2: that we're talking about. However, if you want to keep 362 00:17:30,280 --> 00:17:33,960 Speaker 2: all of those guys beyond that date, if you do 363 00:17:34,080 --> 00:17:37,880 Speaker 2: leave off a starter, which maybe they want, the only 364 00:17:37,920 --> 00:17:41,199 Speaker 2: way really to do that, especially within Carnacion, is to 365 00:17:41,480 --> 00:17:43,840 Speaker 2: have elders start in the miners. And so I've been 366 00:17:43,840 --> 00:17:47,400 Speaker 2: talking to scouts all spring about Eldridge, numerous other things. 367 00:17:47,400 --> 00:17:49,280 Speaker 2: You know, it is scouts want are in the press 368 00:17:49,280 --> 00:17:50,520 Speaker 2: box and go what are they going to do with 369 00:17:50,560 --> 00:17:52,200 Speaker 2: this guy? What are they going to do with that guy. 370 00:17:52,720 --> 00:17:56,199 Speaker 2: They've been universal since the start of the spring that 371 00:17:57,200 --> 00:17:59,920 Speaker 2: Matos is a guy who will get snapped up immediately. 372 00:18:00,200 --> 00:18:04,520 Speaker 2: In Carnacion, especially this last week, teams have been saying, 373 00:18:04,680 --> 00:18:06,600 Speaker 2: what are they going to do with him? Because that's 374 00:18:06,640 --> 00:18:11,560 Speaker 2: a guy we want, and Susac Susack almost is like 375 00:18:11,600 --> 00:18:14,560 Speaker 2: a little bit under the radar. Teams are really waiting 376 00:18:14,600 --> 00:18:18,640 Speaker 2: on him. I would scout from a very good team yesterday, 377 00:18:18,640 --> 00:18:21,240 Speaker 2: I said, like, oh, man, if they don't put him 378 00:18:21,240 --> 00:18:23,040 Speaker 2: on the roster, if they don't keep them on the 379 00:18:23,119 --> 00:18:25,439 Speaker 2: roster all year, he's not even going to fall to 380 00:18:25,560 --> 00:18:30,200 Speaker 2: us because that team's too good. So I mean, there's 381 00:18:30,240 --> 00:18:33,720 Speaker 2: just so these are guys if other teams all want them, 382 00:18:33,720 --> 00:18:36,720 Speaker 2: including good teams, the Giants want to keep them too, 383 00:18:36,800 --> 00:18:38,480 Speaker 2: and they're going to try to find a way. 384 00:18:38,760 --> 00:18:38,960 Speaker 3: Now. 385 00:18:39,160 --> 00:18:45,720 Speaker 2: Injuries could change this situation, but Bryce Eldridge potentially could 386 00:18:45,800 --> 00:18:50,000 Speaker 2: benefit from maybe another few weeks. He only has sixty 387 00:18:50,040 --> 00:18:54,200 Speaker 2: six games at Sacramento last year, he didn't necessarily dominate 388 00:18:54,240 --> 00:18:57,399 Speaker 2: the PCL. Sometimes teams say they want their best hitters 389 00:18:57,400 --> 00:18:59,840 Speaker 2: to really dominate at a level before they called them up. 390 00:19:00,280 --> 00:19:03,840 Speaker 2: Sometimes they want guys to be hot, really swinging the belt, 391 00:19:04,000 --> 00:19:06,520 Speaker 2: but that well when they bring them up. Eldris has 392 00:19:06,600 --> 00:19:10,000 Speaker 2: kind of tailed off here. Three strikeout day yesterday, but 393 00:19:10,160 --> 00:19:12,159 Speaker 2: you know two of those were against Walker Bueler, who 394 00:19:12,200 --> 00:19:15,480 Speaker 2: looked fantastic, so throwing that out a little. He's also 395 00:19:15,520 --> 00:19:18,480 Speaker 2: has had a lot of starts against left handers recently too, 396 00:19:18,680 --> 00:19:21,040 Speaker 2: so you know, FP sometimes that can be a little 397 00:19:21,040 --> 00:19:23,280 Speaker 2: bit of a you know, like I had made three 398 00:19:23,280 --> 00:19:24,960 Speaker 2: starts in a row against left handers, and now you 399 00:19:24,960 --> 00:19:28,439 Speaker 2: got Walker Buehler, So who knows what's going on there? 400 00:19:28,480 --> 00:19:31,800 Speaker 2: Bytello said, like Bryce had said something about not necessarily 401 00:19:31,800 --> 00:19:34,000 Speaker 2: feeling comfortable in the box. In the box, that sort 402 00:19:34,040 --> 00:19:36,360 Speaker 2: of stuff can be addressed. So I don't know which 403 00:19:36,359 --> 00:19:38,560 Speaker 2: way they're going to go with it. It's kind of 404 00:19:38,600 --> 00:19:42,560 Speaker 2: a win win situation. I think Bryce Eldridge is terrific. 405 00:19:42,680 --> 00:19:45,399 Speaker 2: Nobody questions that. The scouts are all like I'd give 406 00:19:45,480 --> 00:19:48,600 Speaker 2: him another month, you know of that seasoning that Tony 407 00:19:48,800 --> 00:19:52,960 Speaker 2: likes so much, But they also all said like it's 408 00:19:53,000 --> 00:19:55,320 Speaker 2: not really, he's just going to be such a good player, 409 00:19:55,440 --> 00:19:58,560 Speaker 2: So really this would be more about Ankar and SCM 410 00:19:59,200 --> 00:20:02,159 Speaker 2: my big has with any of that, and all of 411 00:20:02,200 --> 00:20:04,560 Speaker 2: the guys that you and I have both mentioned as 412 00:20:04,600 --> 00:20:10,040 Speaker 2: options on the bench, including Hesus Rodriguez. Everyone's right handed, 413 00:20:10,400 --> 00:20:14,359 Speaker 2: all of them. Bryce Eldridge is left handed. They just 414 00:20:14,440 --> 00:20:18,239 Speaker 2: can't have for me. Everybody be right handed. You know 415 00:20:18,240 --> 00:20:21,359 Speaker 2: they've got some position players, regular position players who are 416 00:20:21,440 --> 00:20:24,960 Speaker 2: left handed and switch hitter, but they would be so 417 00:20:25,160 --> 00:20:26,439 Speaker 2: light from the left side. 418 00:20:27,520 --> 00:20:28,680 Speaker 4: What about this, What. 419 00:20:28,680 --> 00:20:33,360 Speaker 1: About packaging Matos incarnacion for a couple of relievers. 420 00:20:33,840 --> 00:20:36,240 Speaker 2: I don't think you packaged two out of option team 421 00:20:36,640 --> 00:20:39,080 Speaker 2: guys like no team's going to go like, oh, now 422 00:20:39,080 --> 00:20:41,040 Speaker 2: I got two guys without who are out of options 423 00:20:41,040 --> 00:20:43,840 Speaker 2: that make them less flexible, but maybe one or the other. 424 00:20:45,320 --> 00:20:47,880 Speaker 3: Potentially. But you don't get. 425 00:20:47,720 --> 00:20:50,679 Speaker 2: A lot for out of options guys because teams know 426 00:20:50,800 --> 00:20:53,919 Speaker 2: you don't have any leverage, So I don't know what 427 00:20:53,960 --> 00:20:55,720 Speaker 2: you're going to get for them. You know the guys 428 00:20:55,800 --> 00:20:57,960 Speaker 2: you would get something, And we've talked about this a lot. 429 00:20:58,000 --> 00:21:05,080 Speaker 2: The guy you would potentially have available given maybe duplication elsewhere. 430 00:21:05,359 --> 00:21:08,280 Speaker 2: And if you have a super utility guy like Casey's Rodriguez, 431 00:21:08,280 --> 00:21:11,440 Speaker 2: now that you're looking at is Casey Schmidt. A lot 432 00:21:11,480 --> 00:21:13,560 Speaker 2: of teams are into Casey Schmidt. We've talked about this 433 00:21:14,240 --> 00:21:16,680 Speaker 2: so many times, but I think he could be in 434 00:21:16,720 --> 00:21:19,399 Speaker 2: everyday third basement for a lot of teams. And a 435 00:21:19,400 --> 00:21:21,439 Speaker 2: lot of teams feel the same way too. So if 436 00:21:21,480 --> 00:21:25,280 Speaker 2: they want to move somebody for something relieve or second catcher. 437 00:21:27,000 --> 00:21:30,080 Speaker 2: Casey Schmidt's probably the guy who makes the most sense, 438 00:21:30,280 --> 00:21:32,480 Speaker 2: certainly for their potential trading partners. 439 00:21:33,440 --> 00:21:36,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm flying too close to the son with Casey Schmidt. 440 00:21:36,560 --> 00:21:38,840 Speaker 4: I love them. I think I would keep him. 441 00:21:38,880 --> 00:21:39,320 Speaker 3: He doesn't. 442 00:21:40,040 --> 00:21:42,520 Speaker 1: But in the other thing, two seasons, the other option. 443 00:21:42,640 --> 00:21:44,040 Speaker 1: And I could be way off on this, And that's 444 00:21:44,040 --> 00:21:45,800 Speaker 1: why I'm talking on a podcast and not on the 445 00:21:45,800 --> 00:21:48,320 Speaker 1: front office. There's part of me that just wants to 446 00:21:48,359 --> 00:21:53,520 Speaker 1: see Bryce go like Battom Seventh all year, see what 447 00:21:53,600 --> 00:21:57,080 Speaker 1: he's got, because the up and down thing is such 448 00:21:57,119 --> 00:22:00,520 Speaker 1: a mental mind. You know what to be up and down. 449 00:22:00,560 --> 00:22:02,159 Speaker 1: And I'm going to triple A and I got to 450 00:22:02,160 --> 00:22:03,879 Speaker 1: get back. And even if they tell me I'm going 451 00:22:03,920 --> 00:22:05,600 Speaker 1: to get back, when am I going to get back? 452 00:22:05,920 --> 00:22:07,440 Speaker 1: And I had a chance to make the team and 453 00:22:07,480 --> 00:22:09,440 Speaker 1: I got a taste of it last year in September, 454 00:22:09,960 --> 00:22:14,159 Speaker 1: and then it's not I think as fans, we have 455 00:22:14,280 --> 00:22:16,760 Speaker 1: this fantasy football mentality where you could just plug and 456 00:22:16,760 --> 00:22:20,000 Speaker 1: play these guys. We saw how getting traded across the 457 00:22:20,080 --> 00:22:23,800 Speaker 1: country affected Rafael Devers last year from a mental standpoint. 458 00:22:24,119 --> 00:22:26,560 Speaker 1: We saw how Willia Damas when he signed the big contract, 459 00:22:26,600 --> 00:22:28,480 Speaker 1: want to show everybody in the month of April and 460 00:22:28,520 --> 00:22:31,080 Speaker 1: May that he was worth that contract and try it 461 00:22:31,119 --> 00:22:33,639 Speaker 1: too hard. So these are human beings and you have 462 00:22:33,720 --> 00:22:35,920 Speaker 1: to be super careful about how. 463 00:22:35,840 --> 00:22:38,600 Speaker 4: You handle these things. And if it were me, and like. 464 00:22:38,560 --> 00:22:41,400 Speaker 1: I said, I'm just on a podcast and a radio broadcaster, 465 00:22:41,480 --> 00:22:43,159 Speaker 1: I would never tell Buster and Zach how to do 466 00:22:43,200 --> 00:22:45,560 Speaker 1: their job because they get there at seven in the 467 00:22:45,560 --> 00:22:47,000 Speaker 1: morning and leave at seven at night. 468 00:22:47,040 --> 00:22:47,480 Speaker 4: Every day. 469 00:22:48,440 --> 00:22:50,520 Speaker 1: There has to be some talk in that room about 470 00:22:50,560 --> 00:22:52,720 Speaker 1: do we just let this guy go? Do we just 471 00:22:52,760 --> 00:22:55,600 Speaker 1: hit him seventh all year? D h him the majority 472 00:22:55,640 --> 00:22:57,960 Speaker 1: of the time. Get them day games, after night games 473 00:22:57,960 --> 00:23:00,640 Speaker 1: because he's twenty one years old at First Bay. Get 474 00:23:00,640 --> 00:23:04,760 Speaker 1: Dever's off his feet, d hm those games, and and. 475 00:23:04,680 --> 00:23:06,240 Speaker 4: See what we got with this guy. 476 00:23:06,280 --> 00:23:08,239 Speaker 1: Because if it's just going to be an up and 477 00:23:08,280 --> 00:23:11,280 Speaker 1: down thing, and I know he's twenty one and I 478 00:23:11,359 --> 00:23:13,800 Speaker 1: understand the more seasoning thing, but he shown me he 479 00:23:13,800 --> 00:23:16,280 Speaker 1: can play first base. That was my big question mark, 480 00:23:16,320 --> 00:23:18,480 Speaker 1: can you pick it at first And he's done such 481 00:23:18,480 --> 00:23:19,040 Speaker 1: a nice. 482 00:23:18,920 --> 00:23:19,640 Speaker 4: Job over there. 483 00:23:19,960 --> 00:23:21,600 Speaker 1: It's not like if you go to a Giant's game, 484 00:23:21,600 --> 00:23:23,560 Speaker 1: you're going to be like, oh, that first baseman's terrible, 485 00:23:23,600 --> 00:23:25,320 Speaker 1: Like he's doing a great job over there. 486 00:23:26,640 --> 00:23:27,000 Speaker 4: I don't know. 487 00:23:27,000 --> 00:23:29,560 Speaker 1: There's there's a big part of me, with what little 488 00:23:29,600 --> 00:23:31,600 Speaker 1: I know about the insides of all this, that would 489 00:23:31,640 --> 00:23:34,480 Speaker 1: just like to see him go, like take the training 490 00:23:34,520 --> 00:23:35,720 Speaker 1: wheels off and let's do this. 491 00:23:36,600 --> 00:23:37,480 Speaker 3: I disagree. 492 00:23:37,960 --> 00:23:41,200 Speaker 2: Now, look, you're the former player and you have way 493 00:23:41,280 --> 00:23:43,720 Speaker 2: more knowledge. 494 00:23:43,280 --> 00:23:43,800 Speaker 3: Of the. 495 00:23:47,200 --> 00:23:48,200 Speaker 4: Jersey. Alright, go ahead. 496 00:23:48,359 --> 00:23:49,040 Speaker 3: Oh my god. 497 00:23:50,640 --> 00:23:53,120 Speaker 2: The guy I always point to who was yo yoed 498 00:23:53,240 --> 00:23:56,359 Speaker 2: up and down like to an extreme, extreme degree, and 499 00:23:56,400 --> 00:23:59,480 Speaker 2: this is before the CBA when when they suddenly restricted 500 00:23:59,560 --> 00:24:01,600 Speaker 2: like to basically like five times you can go up 501 00:24:01,600 --> 00:24:04,400 Speaker 2: and down, was Matt Olson, and they were doing crazy 502 00:24:04,400 --> 00:24:05,080 Speaker 2: stuff with him. 503 00:24:05,080 --> 00:24:08,720 Speaker 3: He was playing and left Matt Wilson. He was fine. 504 00:24:09,000 --> 00:24:11,600 Speaker 2: Like, if you're a good big league player, going up 505 00:24:11,600 --> 00:24:14,240 Speaker 2: and down your first few years is not going to 506 00:24:14,240 --> 00:24:17,880 Speaker 2: impact you. And if it does, I worry that maybe 507 00:24:17,920 --> 00:24:20,440 Speaker 2: you don't have sort of the toughness to deal with it. 508 00:24:21,000 --> 00:24:23,600 Speaker 2: I don't mind the idea of having a guy swing 509 00:24:23,640 --> 00:24:25,479 Speaker 2: a hot bat and then you bring him up and 510 00:24:25,520 --> 00:24:27,600 Speaker 2: then you put him in and leave him. What we've 511 00:24:27,640 --> 00:24:30,960 Speaker 2: seen the Giants do for the last few years is 512 00:24:31,080 --> 00:24:34,600 Speaker 2: have top prospects they've brought up when they were hot. 513 00:24:34,920 --> 00:24:36,720 Speaker 2: They play them for a game, or maybe don't even 514 00:24:36,720 --> 00:24:38,640 Speaker 2: put them in and then sit them for too long. 515 00:24:38,840 --> 00:24:41,680 Speaker 2: We've seen that a lot. I would like to see 516 00:24:41,680 --> 00:24:44,479 Speaker 2: them have Bryce at his very best. Put him in, 517 00:24:44,680 --> 00:24:48,040 Speaker 2: leave him in. That's great Jerrar right now swinging a 518 00:24:48,080 --> 00:24:52,040 Speaker 2: hot bat. And I'm not saying this is like like 519 00:24:52,160 --> 00:24:54,920 Speaker 2: this is not the Projurar in Karnacia. I love him too. 520 00:24:55,320 --> 00:24:57,320 Speaker 2: All these guys are playing well. Great problem to have 521 00:24:57,720 --> 00:25:00,000 Speaker 2: the home running you hit the other day. You don't 522 00:25:00,040 --> 00:25:02,399 Speaker 2: put a guy. You don't put a guy on a 523 00:25:02,520 --> 00:25:05,560 Speaker 2: roster because he hits a mammoth home run in the spring. 524 00:25:05,920 --> 00:25:08,359 Speaker 2: But that is one of the most impressive home runs 525 00:25:08,359 --> 00:25:11,800 Speaker 2: I've ever seen dur in spring training. Maybe only this 526 00:25:11,880 --> 00:25:16,200 Speaker 2: is gonna sound weird, but maybe maybe only Sean Doolittle. Yes, 527 00:25:16,280 --> 00:25:18,199 Speaker 2: Sean do Little, the reliever when he was still in 528 00:25:18,600 --> 00:25:22,159 Speaker 2: minor league first baseman hit one out of Phoenix Beauty. 529 00:25:22,640 --> 00:25:27,240 Speaker 2: So that's still so the relief picture set the standard there. 530 00:25:27,400 --> 00:25:29,360 Speaker 3: But yeah, that was impressive and he swinging the bat well. 531 00:25:29,440 --> 00:25:33,800 Speaker 2: But more important to me, Jerara and Carnassium is a 532 00:25:33,800 --> 00:25:36,560 Speaker 2: actually not a bad defensive player. You look at him, 533 00:25:36,560 --> 00:25:39,960 Speaker 2: and you think he's an outfielder. He's so big, he 534 00:25:40,040 --> 00:25:41,920 Speaker 2: looks like he would be kind of lumbering. 535 00:25:42,160 --> 00:25:42,359 Speaker 3: You know. 536 00:25:42,920 --> 00:25:44,840 Speaker 2: A scout yesterday told me I spent a lot of 537 00:25:44,920 --> 00:25:47,200 Speaker 2: times talking to scouts yesterday and a couple last couple 538 00:25:47,280 --> 00:25:50,320 Speaker 2: days told me that I love this description because it's 539 00:25:50,320 --> 00:25:53,879 Speaker 2: so true. He's like, he's a lot better player than 540 00:25:53,920 --> 00:25:56,400 Speaker 2: he looks like he would be. But he does things right, 541 00:25:56,520 --> 00:25:58,920 Speaker 2: and he hustles. That's how he hurt his hand last year. 542 00:25:58,920 --> 00:26:01,080 Speaker 2: That's how he got the fracture diving for a ball 543 00:26:01,119 --> 00:26:04,000 Speaker 2: he didn't need to during spring training. He goes all out, 544 00:26:04,080 --> 00:26:09,560 Speaker 2: he goes hard. The coaches love him, so that's another consideration. 545 00:26:10,040 --> 00:26:12,280 Speaker 2: Matos might be the one more in trouble. He has 546 00:26:12,320 --> 00:26:14,000 Speaker 2: not swung the bat quite as well as he did 547 00:26:14,000 --> 00:26:16,959 Speaker 2: early on, and he's not as good a defensive player 548 00:26:17,600 --> 00:26:21,040 Speaker 2: at times. He's been very mistake prone, not just in 549 00:26:21,040 --> 00:26:24,119 Speaker 2: the outfield but on the basis. So they have a 550 00:26:24,200 --> 00:26:28,360 Speaker 2: lot of good options among those extra outfielders. I think 551 00:26:28,400 --> 00:26:31,160 Speaker 2: if it's one or the other that they keep early on, 552 00:26:31,680 --> 00:26:32,879 Speaker 2: it might be Gerrar. 553 00:26:33,440 --> 00:26:33,960 Speaker 3: But to me, I. 554 00:26:34,560 --> 00:26:37,760 Speaker 2: Still can't I'm stuck on this. Do you have enough 555 00:26:37,840 --> 00:26:40,480 Speaker 2: left handed hitters overall, and if asked Tony, are you 556 00:26:40,520 --> 00:26:43,879 Speaker 2: okay having an all right handed bench? And he said yes, 557 00:26:44,320 --> 00:26:47,000 Speaker 2: So okay. You and I have talked about are you 558 00:26:47,040 --> 00:26:49,560 Speaker 2: okay with having an all right handed bullpen sometimes? 559 00:26:49,560 --> 00:26:50,680 Speaker 3: And you said yes. 560 00:26:50,920 --> 00:26:53,840 Speaker 2: Maybe I overthink that, but it does give me a 561 00:26:53,840 --> 00:26:54,680 Speaker 2: little bit of pause. 562 00:26:55,680 --> 00:26:58,359 Speaker 1: Ancarnaci on some run was four sixty three for you, 563 00:26:58,720 --> 00:27:01,080 Speaker 1: those of you that missed it over the Berman left field, 564 00:27:01,080 --> 00:27:05,119 Speaker 1: and I didn't even see it land, So. 565 00:27:04,000 --> 00:27:05,879 Speaker 2: Tony pointed out it hit a dude who must have 566 00:27:05,960 --> 00:27:09,199 Speaker 2: just been going like what what it was? He was 567 00:27:09,320 --> 00:27:12,080 Speaker 2: so far away from the blake that would have been 568 00:27:12,119 --> 00:27:13,240 Speaker 2: a surprise dude. 569 00:27:13,240 --> 00:27:15,280 Speaker 3: He was okay, He was okay, but it. 570 00:27:15,320 --> 00:27:19,320 Speaker 4: Hit somebody guy ugly. He was the ugly finder. 571 00:27:20,240 --> 00:27:23,240 Speaker 1: And Sean Doolittle was All American hitter at University of Virginia, 572 00:27:23,280 --> 00:27:25,880 Speaker 1: so that doesn't surprise me, and was drafted as both 573 00:27:25,920 --> 00:27:28,160 Speaker 1: a picture and a position player and obviously morphed into 574 00:27:28,280 --> 00:27:31,400 Speaker 1: one of the better relievers the Oakland As ever had 575 00:27:31,400 --> 00:27:32,439 Speaker 1: and the Washington Nationals. 576 00:27:32,480 --> 00:27:33,920 Speaker 4: He had a nice career. All right, let's move on 577 00:27:33,960 --> 00:27:38,240 Speaker 4: to the starting rotation. Wrap this deal up. Yeah, what 578 00:27:38,280 --> 00:27:39,680 Speaker 4: do you think I. 579 00:27:39,640 --> 00:27:46,359 Speaker 3: Think that is good. No, I you know what. Robbie 580 00:27:46,440 --> 00:27:47,720 Speaker 3: Race looked outstanding. 581 00:27:48,040 --> 00:27:50,880 Speaker 2: Remember last year during the spring, everyone was like, whoa, 582 00:27:51,440 --> 00:27:53,159 Speaker 2: this guy is going to be really good, and then 583 00:27:53,200 --> 00:27:55,680 Speaker 2: he was an All star. He looks better this spring, 584 00:27:55,680 --> 00:27:57,600 Speaker 2: and he keeps talking about how he's so much more 585 00:27:57,680 --> 00:28:01,040 Speaker 2: comfortable now. He's the most comfortable, well, he's been since 586 00:28:01,119 --> 00:28:04,800 Speaker 2: before he had that Tommy John surgery. He found his 587 00:28:05,000 --> 00:28:09,239 Speaker 2: old delivery somehow. I never understand how guys kind of 588 00:28:10,280 --> 00:28:12,479 Speaker 2: you know, lose and find things. It's just such a 589 00:28:12,520 --> 00:28:16,560 Speaker 2: matter of like even millimeters sometimes with delivery stuff and mechanics. 590 00:28:17,080 --> 00:28:20,200 Speaker 2: But he obviously they had nearly had a perfect game 591 00:28:20,280 --> 00:28:22,840 Speaker 2: altogether the other day and he started that looks amazing. 592 00:28:23,160 --> 00:28:27,760 Speaker 3: Tyler Mally has looked really good. Kind of low key. 593 00:28:27,440 --> 00:28:29,840 Speaker 2: He got a week or so later start because he 594 00:28:29,880 --> 00:28:32,359 Speaker 2: was sick at the beginning of the spring, so he't 595 00:28:32,440 --> 00:28:34,320 Speaker 2: he hasn't hit the five any mark, but he hasn't 596 00:28:34,359 --> 00:28:35,320 Speaker 2: given up a run yet. 597 00:28:35,960 --> 00:28:36,879 Speaker 3: He looks outstanding. 598 00:28:36,920 --> 00:28:39,400 Speaker 2: Of course, Logan, we've all seen what Logan's been doing 599 00:28:40,000 --> 00:28:42,440 Speaker 2: and pitching in big games, so he's fine. 600 00:28:42,560 --> 00:28:44,400 Speaker 3: And Roof's been a little bit up and down, but we. 601 00:28:44,360 --> 00:28:45,840 Speaker 2: All know what we're going to get from land and 602 00:28:45,920 --> 00:28:51,280 Speaker 2: Route and Adrian Hauser. The scouts have raved about Adrian Hauser, 603 00:28:51,360 --> 00:28:53,680 Speaker 2: and one told me the other day he looks better 604 00:28:54,520 --> 00:28:57,240 Speaker 2: right now than he did last year and he was 605 00:28:57,640 --> 00:29:00,480 Speaker 2: outstanding with the White Sox for that whatever was six 606 00:29:00,520 --> 00:29:03,920 Speaker 2: weeks before they traded him, spun him for something, even Benner, 607 00:29:03,920 --> 00:29:07,240 Speaker 2: which man they stumbled over some gold last year with 608 00:29:07,600 --> 00:29:10,000 Speaker 2: Agrim Hauser. So I think, you know, there were some 609 00:29:10,080 --> 00:29:13,720 Speaker 2: question marks. Do they have enough starting pitching right now? 610 00:29:14,120 --> 00:29:17,560 Speaker 2: Things change, don't get me wrong. I know injuries, under performance, 611 00:29:17,600 --> 00:29:21,520 Speaker 2: guys getting their ruts whatever. Right now, I'm really encouraged 612 00:29:21,520 --> 00:29:23,160 Speaker 2: by the rotation, really encouraged. 613 00:29:23,720 --> 00:29:26,160 Speaker 1: Yeah, I think it's solid. And you know, we talked 614 00:29:26,160 --> 00:29:29,959 Speaker 1: about Webby and Ray and Landing Roupe and Hauser and Maley. 615 00:29:30,000 --> 00:29:32,000 Speaker 1: I think Mally's the sneaky wildcard and all this. 616 00:29:32,080 --> 00:29:32,200 Speaker 3: Man. 617 00:29:32,200 --> 00:29:34,720 Speaker 1: I've watched him pitch twice when I was down there, 618 00:29:34,720 --> 00:29:37,280 Speaker 1: and he just kind of got a little Greg Maddox 619 00:29:37,320 --> 00:29:40,640 Speaker 1: in him, where his ninety two plays up up on 620 00:29:40,680 --> 00:29:44,560 Speaker 1: the zone, his cutter's nasty, he's got good stuff, and 621 00:29:44,640 --> 00:29:47,240 Speaker 1: his mound presences demeanor seems like a guy that would 622 00:29:47,240 --> 00:29:49,640 Speaker 1: never get rattled. So it still comes down to who's 623 00:29:49,640 --> 00:29:51,040 Speaker 1: getting the outs in seven, eight and nine. 624 00:29:51,040 --> 00:29:52,640 Speaker 4: For me, like I love the lineup. 625 00:29:53,000 --> 00:29:55,080 Speaker 1: You look at what Luisa Rise is doing in the 626 00:29:55,080 --> 00:29:58,680 Speaker 1: World Baseball Classic. He's getting big hits everywhere, the enthusiasm, 627 00:29:58,720 --> 00:30:01,960 Speaker 1: the swagger he has. You know, Adamis is more comfortable 628 00:30:01,960 --> 00:30:04,320 Speaker 1: this year. Dever's is more comfortable this year. I don't 629 00:30:04,360 --> 00:30:04,720 Speaker 1: care what. 630 00:30:04,760 --> 00:30:07,280 Speaker 4: Raffi's stats are in spring training. It doesn't matter. Hitters hit. 631 00:30:08,600 --> 00:30:10,920 Speaker 1: Matt Chapman always has a good spring, so hopefully he 632 00:30:11,000 --> 00:30:13,440 Speaker 1: keeps that going into April. There's not a lot of 633 00:30:13,520 --> 00:30:16,840 Speaker 1: question marks on this team for me, other than maybe 634 00:30:17,480 --> 00:30:19,880 Speaker 1: out of these people Eldridge and all the people we 635 00:30:19,920 --> 00:30:21,880 Speaker 1: talked about who's making the team, and then the bullpen 636 00:30:22,080 --> 00:30:24,480 Speaker 1: and who knows if there's a deal in the works 637 00:30:24,560 --> 00:30:27,080 Speaker 1: or not here late in spring. We'll just stay tuned. 638 00:30:27,080 --> 00:30:29,120 Speaker 1: So it's been an overall good spring for the Giants. 639 00:30:30,480 --> 00:30:32,960 Speaker 1: I've watched all the drills. It's high intensity stuff. I've 640 00:30:32,960 --> 00:30:34,920 Speaker 1: told all my baseball people, in all my years, I 641 00:30:34,920 --> 00:30:39,560 Speaker 1: haven't seen a team with game speed practices in spring training, 642 00:30:39,640 --> 00:30:41,000 Speaker 1: So they're getting after it. 643 00:30:41,200 --> 00:30:42,800 Speaker 4: Like I've always said, Tony I think. 644 00:30:42,720 --> 00:30:45,480 Speaker 1: Is the first ever Major League head coach, like he's 645 00:30:45,520 --> 00:30:47,959 Speaker 1: out there engaged in everything every day and it's not 646 00:30:48,040 --> 00:30:49,960 Speaker 1: just fun and around taking ground balls. 647 00:30:50,200 --> 00:30:52,479 Speaker 4: It's like he's coaching every day. And you and I 648 00:30:52,480 --> 00:30:53,000 Speaker 4: have seen. 649 00:30:52,800 --> 00:30:55,400 Speaker 1: Managers that kind of leave it up to the assistant 650 00:30:55,400 --> 00:30:58,120 Speaker 1: coaches and they make up the lineup, they have a presence, 651 00:30:58,120 --> 00:31:00,120 Speaker 1: they bring guys in the office. But Tony's coaching his 652 00:31:00,200 --> 00:31:02,120 Speaker 1: ass off and it's fun to see. It has a 653 00:31:02,280 --> 00:31:05,160 Speaker 1: very collegey vibe, which I think is very refreshing where 654 00:31:05,160 --> 00:31:07,160 Speaker 1: we get so set in our ways in Major League 655 00:31:07,200 --> 00:31:10,040 Speaker 1: Baseball to see something new. And even Billy on the 656 00:31:10,040 --> 00:31:11,920 Speaker 1: plane was talking about how cool it is that the 657 00:31:11,960 --> 00:31:13,800 Speaker 1: Giants hired a college coach. 658 00:31:13,800 --> 00:31:14,360 Speaker 4: He's all four it. 659 00:31:14,400 --> 00:31:17,520 Speaker 1: Obviously, Billy has always thought out of the box as 660 00:31:17,520 --> 00:31:19,400 Speaker 1: a GM for the A's and found ways to find 661 00:31:19,400 --> 00:31:22,360 Speaker 1: players that nobody else saw value in. 662 00:31:22,520 --> 00:31:24,480 Speaker 4: So I'm excited for the season. 663 00:31:24,520 --> 00:31:26,440 Speaker 1: I'm ready to start talking about games with you like 664 00:31:26,520 --> 00:31:30,640 Speaker 1: actual like, oh, the first game Wednesday, it gets the Yankees, 665 00:31:30,920 --> 00:31:33,440 Speaker 1: this happened, that happened, and we're right around the corner 666 00:31:33,480 --> 00:31:35,600 Speaker 1: for that. Any last thoughts before I wrap it up. 667 00:31:35,920 --> 00:31:37,880 Speaker 2: No, but you know what we should probably do like 668 00:31:37,920 --> 00:31:40,240 Speaker 2: a postgame pod that night if we can, if we 669 00:31:40,280 --> 00:31:42,960 Speaker 2: can work that out. Once once I was, oh yeah, 670 00:31:42,960 --> 00:31:44,280 Speaker 2: I've got to do my real job, don't I. 671 00:31:44,920 --> 00:31:47,080 Speaker 1: Well, yeah, I'm doing the km b our post game 672 00:31:47,120 --> 00:31:50,320 Speaker 1: show and opening day, so opening night so perfect. 673 00:31:50,600 --> 00:31:54,800 Speaker 2: Maybe when you're done and I'm done, we'll just well 674 00:31:54,840 --> 00:31:55,880 Speaker 2: we'll pot Why. 675 00:31:55,640 --> 00:31:58,680 Speaker 4: Not, because I have a life and I have people 676 00:31:58,680 --> 00:31:59,440 Speaker 4: coming in the dame. 677 00:31:59,320 --> 00:32:00,840 Speaker 3: That I want to go. I have no life, but 678 00:32:00,880 --> 00:32:02,280 Speaker 3: that's okay, that's on. 679 00:32:02,640 --> 00:32:05,240 Speaker 1: I'm gonna go off cocktails with my friends after the game. 680 00:32:06,160 --> 00:32:09,000 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, you know what. I made some plans to 681 00:32:09,040 --> 00:32:11,160 Speaker 2: do that the same. So all right the next day, 682 00:32:11,240 --> 00:32:12,520 Speaker 2: the next morning, let. 683 00:32:12,440 --> 00:32:14,560 Speaker 1: Meet you at Hotel via rooftop. All right, Susan, good 684 00:32:14,600 --> 00:32:17,280 Speaker 1: job today, Way to go. Time to wrap up the show. 685 00:32:17,280 --> 00:32:20,160 Speaker 1: Thanks for watching, guys, like and subscribe. You can find 686 00:32:20,240 --> 00:32:22,440 Speaker 1: us anywhere you find your podcast, but we're always on 687 00:32:22,480 --> 00:32:24,480 Speaker 1: YouTube and we check out the comments all the time. 688 00:32:24,480 --> 00:32:25,440 Speaker 4: You guys have been awesome. 689 00:32:25,760 --> 00:32:28,120 Speaker 1: It's growing every day and pretty soon we're gonna have 690 00:32:28,160 --> 00:32:31,560 Speaker 1: fourteen million followers because you guys are amazing. Like I 691 00:32:31,600 --> 00:32:33,240 Speaker 1: say on the way out every single time, have a 692 00:32:33,280 --> 00:32:35,880 Speaker 1: great day, everybody, Happy Saint Patrick's Day, and swing hard 693 00:32:35,920 --> 00:32:37,200 Speaker 1: in case you hit it on splash It. 694 00:32:37,360 --> 00:33:00,400 Speaker 4: Territory eight