WEBVTT - Sexy Unique Podcast Podcast with Brooke Baker

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<v Speaker 1>It's three two in San Luis Obispo, and you're listening

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<v Speaker 1>tonight Call. Hello everybody, and welcome to Night Call, the

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<v Speaker 1>podcast for those foamy nights in those subsy days. Joining

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<v Speaker 1>me as always today in Los Angeles is Tess Lynch

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<v Speaker 1>and joining us today a very special guest, our friend,

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<v Speaker 1>Brook Baker. Welcome Brooke. Hey. UM, I'm Brook Baker. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>a writer, UM, attempting to be a writer in Los Angeles, California. UM.

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<v Speaker 1>And I'm a good friend of Molly and Tess. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Brooke has been on my other podcast, Molly Sleazy Friends.

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<v Speaker 1>She came on to talk about vander Pump Rules, which

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<v Speaker 1>we're going to talk about a little bit again today.

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<v Speaker 1>A lot of things have happened in the vander Pump verse. UM.

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<v Speaker 1>But first we wanted to say congratulations to Emily Yoshida,

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<v Speaker 1>who is now a married woman. Congratulations Emily at least

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<v Speaker 1>on your hate to wait. We will see you soon

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<v Speaker 1>when you get back from your honeymoon. But congratulations on

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<v Speaker 1>doing the thing, doing the damn thing. I think that

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<v Speaker 1>you were going to explain that Emily and her husband

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<v Speaker 1>have a podcast connection. It is true. Emily met her

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<v Speaker 1>husband on our old podcast Girls and Hoodies when he

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<v Speaker 1>was a guest. Real super fans can track down that

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<v Speaker 1>episode to hear the sparks fly in real time. But also,

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<v Speaker 1>I feel like I've told that to people and people

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<v Speaker 1>get really excited at the idea of a podcast romance.

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<v Speaker 1>Have there been more? Um Mark Marin reconnected with Moon

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<v Speaker 1>Unit Zappa on. So, I mean I believe that Mark

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<v Speaker 1>Marin interviews his ex girlfriends. Yeah, I think Mark Marin

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<v Speaker 1>is DTF anyone on WTF. There may be some podcasts

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<v Speaker 1>where people like have guests on for the purpose of

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<v Speaker 1>you know, I think part of it is, so there's

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<v Speaker 1>three of us right now and we're huddled around, huddled

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<v Speaker 1>around one mike, and I think maybe it just kind

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<v Speaker 1>of forces you this intimacy, like we might all get

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<v Speaker 1>married by the end of this. There is something really

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<v Speaker 1>intimate about talking to somebody just on a mic. Uh.

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<v Speaker 1>It feels intimate and even more intimate when your faces

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<v Speaker 1>are all smushed together. It feels funnily enough, like a

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<v Speaker 1>like a slumber party. Yeah, like we're recording this just

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<v Speaker 1>for fun, Like we're all like curled up on the

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<v Speaker 1>sleeping bags in front of the TV. And this does

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<v Speaker 1>feel like we're about to do a musical number. Um,

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<v Speaker 1>maybe we will, we will. We're going to do a

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<v Speaker 1>little routine first about the Kylie Jenner leggings that she

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<v Speaker 1>just wore today, because I brought this photo to show

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<v Speaker 1>the class and everybody was like, so we're recording this

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<v Speaker 1>a week before, right, will be heard by you? Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>I think it's important that we illustrate for your mind

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<v Speaker 1>right now these leggings. Yeah, somebody tell me, what do

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<v Speaker 1>you think about these leggings that Kylie Jenner just debuted. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>they look a bit like spanks meets a wetsuit. They're

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<v Speaker 1>heavily seemed extremely compressed through the waste. And I thought

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<v Speaker 1>they were interesting because they're Alexander Wang. And this weekend

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<v Speaker 1>Beyonce and jay Z the Carter's dropped Everything is Love

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<v Speaker 1>and Beyonce shouts out Alexander Wang, And it was the

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<v Speaker 1>same day that Kylie like worthies. I thought that was

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<v Speaker 1>a coincidence or a weird one, because Alexander Wang isn't

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<v Speaker 1>really on the thought Instagram circuit, like it's all Gucci

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<v Speaker 1>and like whatever else. Um, and they look really weird

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<v Speaker 1>on her. They also look like a diaper. I would

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<v Speaker 1>I'll take a stab. So these are I would say,

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<v Speaker 1>an off white kind of gray legging that goes It's

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<v Speaker 1>hard to say exactly where they cut off. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>because this is of asleep. There's a band um and

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<v Speaker 1>the seams go straight down the midline. And yeah, I

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<v Speaker 1>mean they look like if you were wearing underpants over

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<v Speaker 1>leggings that were illustrated to almost look like a skeleton. Um.

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<v Speaker 1>It looks like somebody drew a vagina on top of

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<v Speaker 1>her vagina. I would feel like I was dancing around

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<v Speaker 1>saying that exact same thing. This seems now we love

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<v Speaker 1>leggings here at Nightcall. We told you about our love

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<v Speaker 1>of leggings before, but this seems I'm really excited to

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<v Speaker 1>get into the bike shorts debate here. Oh yeah, Molly

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<v Speaker 1>hates bike shorts. But I like, I've been processing my

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<v Speaker 1>feelings about it all week, and I'm like, why do

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<v Speaker 1>I hate it? I don't hate yoga pants. Those are

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<v Speaker 1>just long bike shorts. And then I heard a woman

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<v Speaker 1>in a store telling the people at the store about

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<v Speaker 1>how her boyfriend had objected to her bike shorts. What

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<v Speaker 1>do you objected to? What? She was like, you know, like,

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<v Speaker 1>men don't understand it's fashion. Like I was gonna I

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<v Speaker 1>put on my outfit and I had like these bike

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<v Speaker 1>shorts and I was wearing them with he holes. And

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<v Speaker 1>he was like, what are you doing? Fair question? What

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<v Speaker 1>was she doing? Why she's not biking in those names?

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<v Speaker 1>Like you look like you just ran a k And

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<v Speaker 1>I was like, maybe I side with her again, because

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<v Speaker 1>if that's what you want to wear, I mean, I

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<v Speaker 1>get if it's functional. Like my friend, my friend Elizabeth

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<v Speaker 1>the Rhine Course sent me a picture of her wearing

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<v Speaker 1>bike shorts like to ride a bike in a bike race,

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<v Speaker 1>and I'm like, I have no problem with that. Pro

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<v Speaker 1>bike shorts is function. Bike shorts under a dress or

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<v Speaker 1>a skirt. Well, that's been big a lot. But it

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<v Speaker 1>just reminds me of like third grade so much, I think,

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<v Speaker 1>and of like I don't know, I'm just like it

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<v Speaker 1>reminds me, I was saying, of like the kid on

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<v Speaker 1>the playground that like maybe eats their own bookers, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>just weird whoa whoa my friend always talked about like

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<v Speaker 1>she's like, you know that one weird kid on the playground.

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<v Speaker 1>She just wears like a huge T shirt and like

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<v Speaker 1>sweatpants like that isn't like, yeah, are our kid like that?

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<v Speaker 1>He used to like stand against the chain ln fence

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<v Speaker 1>and just run against it. And then it took us

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<v Speaker 1>until we were all sixteen seventeen to realize he was

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<v Speaker 1>just like masturbating it recess for years. I mean, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I grew up, like I spent some of my childhood

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<v Speaker 1>in a very rural area and there was like we

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<v Speaker 1>were biking frequently, and I feel like you didn't have

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<v Speaker 1>that many options when it was super hot. You didn't

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<v Speaker 1>want to wear leggings, like, but Kim Kardashian has options

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<v Speaker 1>and she's I get it because it's like it became

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know if it started in high fashion or

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<v Speaker 1>if it started like on Fashion Nova, but it just

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<v Speaker 1>became like a thing in streetwear where everybody was wearing

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<v Speaker 1>bike shorts as like a thing like bike shorts, and

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<v Speaker 1>like a crop top is like your look, and it

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<v Speaker 1>does look good on people who have amazing bodies, like

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<v Speaker 1>anything does. But the thing that I'm always like very

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<v Speaker 1>stressed about when I see it is like can can

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<v Speaker 1>your body breathe? You know, like it seems to defeat

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<v Speaker 1>the purpose of shorts to me, which is to like

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<v Speaker 1>be comfortable, comfortable, and like have as much airflow all

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<v Speaker 1>over your body as possible, and that I'm always just like,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm just they just look like a yeast infection to me.

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<v Speaker 1>It's very easty. Yeah, it's super easty. So it's like

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<v Speaker 1>I try to avoid things that just look like east

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<v Speaker 1>infection just as a rule. East. Well, here's a question.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you guys have any items of clothing that are

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<v Speaker 1>repellent to you? Or is it bike shorts or I

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<v Speaker 1>mean is there something else? Oh? Wow, you mean that?

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<v Speaker 1>Like I don't like that. You you don't like them

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<v Speaker 1>on other people, you would never wear them yourself. It's

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<v Speaker 1>like a it's a just for yours. I feel like

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<v Speaker 1>you have turtlenecks. Wow? You that fast? Well, because I

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<v Speaker 1>was talking about this yesterday with my one of my

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<v Speaker 1>kids who was telling me that. He was like, I

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<v Speaker 1>don't understand why everyone started wearing these baby outfits. And

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<v Speaker 1>I was like, what are you talking about? And he

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<v Speaker 1>was like, they look like what put babies in. They

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<v Speaker 1>had their like pants that go up to your your

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<v Speaker 1>chest and they have straps. And I was like, you're

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<v Speaker 1>talking about overalls and he was like, I just see

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<v Speaker 1>all of these grown ups these like there's kids in

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<v Speaker 1>my class and they were like, they look they all

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<v Speaker 1>look like they're dressed up as babies. And I was like,

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<v Speaker 1>well they I've actually been considering getting a bear of overalls. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>I was like, I would you be embarrassed? And he

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<v Speaker 1>was like, please don't do that to me. And I

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<v Speaker 1>was like, well, I have the same thing, not a

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<v Speaker 1>cowl neck, but a tight turtleneck. Interesting. I think it

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<v Speaker 1>makes people look like penises. See. I think I'm pro

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<v Speaker 1>turtleneck because of Nora fro the double header of Nora

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<v Speaker 1>Efron and Audrey Hepburn. Yeah, well Nora felt bad about

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<v Speaker 1>her neck, you know, I know the Steve Jobs turtleneck. Like, hey,

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<v Speaker 1>That's what I'm talking about. But you know, for some reason,

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<v Speaker 1>I looked at the picture of Sharon Stone when she

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<v Speaker 1>wore the gap turtleneck to the Oscars and I was like,

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<v Speaker 1>remember what a huge moment that was. That that was

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<v Speaker 1>like just months of news like she bore a turtleneck

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<v Speaker 1>from that she was promoting or had just done basic instincts.

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<v Speaker 1>Everyone had like seen her vagina and she was like

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<v Speaker 1>going the op, but don't look at my neck. Right. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>sometimes I think that's funny. Tess and I have a

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<v Speaker 1>long running joke about how the funniest clothing is a

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<v Speaker 1>turtleneck with like a hole cut out for the nipple. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>just to two nipple holes. And that's we didn't we

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<v Speaker 1>discuss doing this for Halloween, but we just never a lot.

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<v Speaker 1>Is like why, like it's so funny because it would

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<v Speaker 1>be just like, you know, so risque. I wonder when

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<v Speaker 1>Kylie will get to that. I mean, maybe we can

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<v Speaker 1>we can push culture in this direction if we just say, like,

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<v Speaker 1>you want to do something really subversive, then dress in

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<v Speaker 1>a head to toe shroud, but with only your nipples.

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<v Speaker 1>That's what I was saying. Also about these Kylie the

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<v Speaker 1>Alexander Waying leggings, is that what makes them funny again

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<v Speaker 1>and like acceptable to me is that they look like

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<v Speaker 1>a jock strap. Yes, and that was like it's funny

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<v Speaker 1>plates outfit. I did do pilates, I earned it, but

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<v Speaker 1>still I'm going to wear this for the rest of day,

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<v Speaker 1>and I'd be lying if I said I wasn't going

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<v Speaker 1>through a little gap turtleneck on. Yeah, I'm done. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>ready for the Oscar, I think. Um, but like the

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<v Speaker 1>point of leggings is that you don't have to zip

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<v Speaker 1>into them exactly. Now I'm seeing, like, what if that's

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<v Speaker 1>the next turn is They're like, now we're going to

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<v Speaker 1>add a bunch of stuff on the street where that

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<v Speaker 1>like formalizes it and makes it uncomfortable. Well, there was

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<v Speaker 1>a really good thing in Sense magazine that I think

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<v Speaker 1>I have no idea how to pronounce, said it's s

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<v Speaker 1>S E N S E S. Since the Canadian fashion

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<v Speaker 1>magazine that I've written a couple of things for, they

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<v Speaker 1>had a really good thing that was a review of

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<v Speaker 1>the Balenciaga Triple S sneaker, which is like the sneaker

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<v Speaker 1>that's like a joke about sneakers. They were like, it's

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<v Speaker 1>like non functional basically, they were like, it's a postmodern sneaker,

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<v Speaker 1>so it's like incredibly heavy. It looks like it's like

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<v Speaker 1>the ultimate athletics shoe, but it's too heavy to walk in,

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<v Speaker 1>so like walking around in it is really uncomfortable. And

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<v Speaker 1>just like, but it signifies status. Also, wait, don't you

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<v Speaker 1>guys remember there were sneakers like oh Man fifteen years

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<v Speaker 1>ago that were super heavy and had kind of curved souls,

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<v Speaker 1>and the whole thing was it was supposed to They

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<v Speaker 1>were supposed tone your legs, got your shape ups there, Yeah,

0:13:48.080 --> 0:13:49.640
<v Speaker 1>there were shape ups. But then I think that there

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<v Speaker 1>was maybe I want to say that they were called

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<v Speaker 1>m B T s, but I feel like that might

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<v Speaker 1>be the wave of people being like I wore them,

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<v Speaker 1>my mother wore them, and they weighed a billion, and

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<v Speaker 1>you felt like you were on some kind of like

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<v Speaker 1>a surfboard and lifting your feet was such a shore

0:14:06.480 --> 0:14:09.160
<v Speaker 1>and of course you got like great calf muscles, but

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<v Speaker 1>you were wearing these shoes all the time. The only

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<v Speaker 1>thing I ever wanted was moon bounce shoes. Oh yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I never got that. You were going to talk about

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<v Speaker 1>soaps the skate shoes that allow you to grind on rails, Remember, dude,

0:14:23.040 --> 0:14:25.680
<v Speaker 1>great sneaker period. Do you remember that, Kate, where were

0:14:25.720 --> 0:14:28.080
<v Speaker 1>they called kapas where you could um They had these

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<v Speaker 1>little like triangular colorful things that you would pop into

0:14:32.800 --> 0:14:35.480
<v Speaker 1>them so that you could like represent your cheerleading squad.

0:14:35.560 --> 0:14:40.240
<v Speaker 1>I've had those. Were you a cheerleader? No, I'll tell

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<v Speaker 1>you what I really want because I'm like a closet sneakerhead.

0:14:43.960 --> 0:14:45.760
<v Speaker 1>I just said that out loud, and no, I want

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<v Speaker 1>to take it sneakerhead. Um. But there's like these nikes

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<v Speaker 1>that are coming out that are just Nike sandals that

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<v Speaker 1>have little fanny packs. What get them? And I just

0:14:57.360 --> 0:14:59.480
<v Speaker 1>do you just see something? Sometimes you're like, I want

0:14:59.520 --> 0:15:03.760
<v Speaker 1>that care if it can hold anything. I actually I

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<v Speaker 1>remember on a podcast, I don't know what podcast it was, Molly.

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<v Speaker 1>On some podcasts you were talking about the fenty slides

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<v Speaker 1>that were like satin and you said on the podcast

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<v Speaker 1>like they're the ultimate fetish item because they're not functional. Update.

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<v Speaker 1>I've had mine for a year and they still look flies.

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<v Speaker 1>I take back everything I just wanted. But when you

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<v Speaker 1>said that, I was like, maybe Molly's right, and my

0:15:26.520 --> 0:15:28.880
<v Speaker 1>shoes were going to fall apart. And it was probably

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<v Speaker 1>more thinking about me and how dirty they would get

0:15:31.760 --> 0:15:34.440
<v Speaker 1>if I wore them outside, which is why I bought

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<v Speaker 1>the Target knockoff version of those sides, because I did

0:15:38.360 --> 0:15:40.960
<v Speaker 1>want them, but I was also like, I can't justify

0:15:41.040 --> 0:15:44.200
<v Speaker 1>buying these all just like ruin them immediately, which is

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<v Speaker 1>how I feel about the people who have like the

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<v Speaker 1>white broken stocks, you know, that became such a thing

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<v Speaker 1>and I was like, who are these people that are

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<v Speaker 1>wearing white broken stocks in like Manhattan and walking around

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<v Speaker 1>all day? And then they like, don't just become like disgusting. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>you can magic eraser anything, but it's just like a

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<v Speaker 1>status symbol of like I only have to walk from

0:16:06.040 --> 0:16:10.080
<v Speaker 1>like the cabs totally house or whatever. The uber the

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<v Speaker 1>uber black. Do you guys wear clogs? No, my sister

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<v Speaker 1>does that. How How do people wear cloths? I tried to.

0:16:19.040 --> 0:16:22.120
<v Speaker 1>Everybody's like, oh, everything's better since I started wearing cloths.

0:16:22.120 --> 0:16:24.840
<v Speaker 1>And I was like, it hurts so bad to wear

0:16:24.920 --> 0:16:28.320
<v Speaker 1>these people a lot and shoot people people like it?

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<v Speaker 1>Do they like the pain aspect of it? They're like, oh,

0:16:31.240 --> 0:16:34.240
<v Speaker 1>it must be working because it's painful. It's it's I mean,

0:16:34.360 --> 0:16:36.000
<v Speaker 1>I had such a heart. I had to take them

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<v Speaker 1>off within five minutes. I was like, I cannot wear these.

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<v Speaker 1>Have your sister call in and tell us how a person. Um,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm okay, So there are two kinds of clogs. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>realizing my sister has shoes that are the brand clogs

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<v Speaker 1>that are insane. I'll send a photo for the pod um.

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<v Speaker 1>We're talking about crocs here, clocks are made of wood

0:16:58.320 --> 0:17:00.920
<v Speaker 1>and she doesn't have those. I think there are people

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<v Speaker 1>that are really into the like, you know, oh, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>so like minimalist. I just like put my feet just

0:17:05.760 --> 0:17:10.879
<v Speaker 1>need wood to walk across. So Scandinavian. Yeah, it seems

0:17:10.880 --> 0:17:14.280
<v Speaker 1>like it's part of that. Scandinavian fetishism. Also seems like

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<v Speaker 1>low key racist to me always, the Scandinavian fetishization. What

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<v Speaker 1>are we because it's Scandinavia, Like, what are we really

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<v Speaker 1>like fetishizing here? You know? Would? Yeah, I was a

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<v Speaker 1>bevel last night? Is that how you say it? And

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<v Speaker 1>it's like a super like Scandinavian wed dream. I will

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<v Speaker 1>say that. It's like really amazing food, but it's fun.

0:17:35.600 --> 0:17:37.920
<v Speaker 1>They serve it to you on like some wood. The

0:17:37.960 --> 0:17:40.600
<v Speaker 1>whole thing is would. I mean, it's just like it's wood,

0:17:40.720 --> 0:17:44.680
<v Speaker 1>it's crochet, it's plants. I mean it's like it's like

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<v Speaker 1>that can Folk magazine, like the food is good, the

0:17:47.480 --> 0:17:50.160
<v Speaker 1>wineless is great, whatever, Like Can Folk Magazine turned out

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<v Speaker 1>to be Mormon. Everything turns out to be lost. Mormons

0:17:54.280 --> 0:17:57.359
<v Speaker 1>have great esthetics as we all know, right Mormon Mommy box.

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<v Speaker 1>Maybe we're not trying to be Scandinavians. We're just trying

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<v Speaker 1>to be warm trying. But if the found out i

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<v Speaker 1>Ka was warmon, I would not be surprised we found

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<v Speaker 1>out Ikia was made by a Nazi. That was a

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<v Speaker 1>previous episode. Guys, moving on to the brunch lifestyle that

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<v Speaker 1>you wear clocks to brook you went to a very

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<v Speaker 1>special brunch. I did so last weekend in Los Angeles, Hollywood,

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<v Speaker 1>California was Pride. Um. My good friend was like, do

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<v Speaker 1>you want to go to sir for Pride Brunch? And

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<v Speaker 1>I said, not only do I want to, I want

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<v Speaker 1>to be there first. So you got there at ten

0:18:36.119 --> 0:18:39.399
<v Speaker 1>thirty am. Um when Sheina we walked in and it

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<v Speaker 1>was like Sheina la la Um Katie and they were

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<v Speaker 1>all like still doing their makeup, and the film crew

0:18:46.880 --> 0:18:48.359
<v Speaker 1>was there and they were just shooting b rolled. The

0:18:48.359 --> 0:18:51.040
<v Speaker 1>whole restaurant was like empty, so they were like shooting

0:18:51.040 --> 0:18:54.040
<v Speaker 1>b rolled like sandbal like making drinks like fast, and

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<v Speaker 1>like there was like they put they like pushed everyone

0:18:56.520 --> 0:18:57.800
<v Speaker 1>up to the bar so it looked like it was

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<v Speaker 1>packed and d J. James Kennedy was so high on

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<v Speaker 1>pasta um and just like DJ fake djaying hiss like

0:19:06.840 --> 0:19:08.520
<v Speaker 1>on his heart out, but he kept like getting up.

0:19:08.520 --> 0:19:10.879
<v Speaker 1>He just kept like singing along and like staying at

0:19:11.560 --> 0:19:15.680
<v Speaker 1>DJJ has it goes. It was like that, do you

0:19:15.680 --> 0:19:17.880
<v Speaker 1>guys remember that photo of like Paris Hilton, like fake

0:19:17.960 --> 0:19:20.240
<v Speaker 1>DJing and there was like the guy picking up. It

0:19:20.359 --> 0:19:21.919
<v Speaker 1>was like that, there was like a dude that was

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<v Speaker 1>like actually DJing. And then to be fair, a lot

0:19:24.640 --> 0:19:28.200
<v Speaker 1>of DJ's ghost dj their own mixes. Oh do you

0:19:28.240 --> 0:19:30.879
<v Speaker 1>think DJ poly D does that. I'm not going to

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<v Speaker 1>say no. I mean you can find you can figure

0:19:33.160 --> 0:19:36.359
<v Speaker 1>out who doesn't who doesn't if you watch them perform live.

0:19:36.520 --> 0:19:39.399
<v Speaker 1>Look at Molly unwilling to offend any DJ by naming you,

0:19:39.560 --> 0:19:41.080
<v Speaker 1>And I'm just going to say, well, I don't know

0:19:41.200 --> 0:19:44.080
<v Speaker 1>for sure. It's like an allegedly situation, you know what

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, Like some people preprogram their mixes, especially people

0:19:48.480 --> 0:19:51.800
<v Speaker 1>who play like big shows like that whole time. But

0:19:51.920 --> 0:19:55.119
<v Speaker 1>also you know, more honest to just have the GHOSTDJ.

0:19:55.359 --> 0:19:57.320
<v Speaker 1>Just like personally, I'm going to keep the dream of

0:19:57.400 --> 0:19:59.600
<v Speaker 1>DJ poly D alive because like I could say, pold

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<v Speaker 1>might really I know how to spend I think, you know, listen,

0:20:02.119 --> 0:20:04.480
<v Speaker 1>he has that Italian flag laptop, Like, I think he

0:20:04.520 --> 0:20:08.320
<v Speaker 1>knows what's going on. You all love DJ, and then

0:20:08.359 --> 0:20:11.920
<v Speaker 1>he knows how to beat match. I would have sex

0:20:11.960 --> 0:20:16.720
<v Speaker 1>with him like it wouldn't take anything, it would take

0:20:16.840 --> 0:20:18.719
<v Speaker 1>no effort on his Well, I'm just saying, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>Nicole called into the pod, so we do have a

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<v Speaker 1>I saw that I need to listen to that. I'm

0:20:25.160 --> 0:20:29.560
<v Speaker 1>a sicky. Tell your aliens to send DJ to night Call. Yes,

0:20:29.720 --> 0:20:32.119
<v Speaker 1>tell um, snooky. You can tell Poldy that I have

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<v Speaker 1>been to Italy. And even though I'm not Italian, I

0:20:34.800 --> 0:20:39.600
<v Speaker 1>was raised Catholic and I am d t F. I

0:20:39.640 --> 0:20:43.119
<v Speaker 1>live in Los Angeles. I'm easy to find. UM. So

0:20:43.160 --> 0:20:45.879
<v Speaker 1>I was at this brunch and so we had to

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<v Speaker 1>sign releases so I might be seen. So we'll do

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<v Speaker 1>an update pod um in six months when it airs. Um.

0:20:51.160 --> 0:20:52.960
<v Speaker 1>But it was really amazing. I mean they should be

0:20:53.080 --> 0:20:55.639
<v Speaker 1>roll and we were like standing in a lot of shots.

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<v Speaker 1>So they made us like sit down at a table

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<v Speaker 1>um and then we just sort of like watched the

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<v Speaker 1>show get produced in front of us. And I keep

0:21:05.280 --> 0:21:07.520
<v Speaker 1>joking that it was like I'm not joking it was

0:21:07.600 --> 0:21:10.919
<v Speaker 1>like interactive brunch theater. I mean you just like Jackson Brittany,

0:21:10.920 --> 0:21:13.040
<v Speaker 1>who had gotten engaged. I think like three days before,

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<v Speaker 1>we're like paraded through the restaurant. I was in the

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<v Speaker 1>shot and in the way and they had to like

0:21:17.040 --> 0:21:19.480
<v Speaker 1>physically move me out because I wasn't paying attention, and

0:21:19.520 --> 0:21:22.080
<v Speaker 1>then they walked past me and then like went to

0:21:22.160 --> 0:21:24.359
<v Speaker 1>the back to like talk to somebody who I assume

0:21:24.480 --> 0:21:27.960
<v Speaker 1>was like against the engagement because like Jack's got really heated,

0:21:28.040 --> 0:21:29.919
<v Speaker 1>and people were like recording on their phones. We were

0:21:29.960 --> 0:21:31.880
<v Speaker 1>told by the producers that were allowed to take still

0:21:31.920 --> 0:21:35.520
<v Speaker 1>images but not video recordings. And then there was like

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<v Speaker 1>a fight in this hallway, and I realized that they

0:21:37.920 --> 0:21:40.040
<v Speaker 1>all fight in this one hallway in the restaurant because

0:21:40.080 --> 0:21:42.480
<v Speaker 1>it's really good lighting. And I was like, oh, no,

0:21:42.520 --> 0:21:44.879
<v Speaker 1>wonder this is where they all fin fight in that

0:21:44.920 --> 0:21:47.359
<v Speaker 1>one hallway, right, And it's also because it's like the

0:21:47.520 --> 0:21:50.520
<v Speaker 1>entrance to the cigarette smoking area. Then when the show started,

0:21:50.560 --> 0:21:52.479
<v Speaker 1>they all would go out there to smoke cigarettes all

0:21:52.520 --> 0:21:54.720
<v Speaker 1>the time. But they were people who worked at a

0:21:54.760 --> 0:21:58.840
<v Speaker 1>restaurant and we're all on ouderall and we're two was

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<v Speaker 1>it you made the joke? But like Basically, these were

0:22:01.680 --> 0:22:04.240
<v Speaker 1>all people that like, if the show hadn't started, they

0:22:04.240 --> 0:22:06.000
<v Speaker 1>would have realized in the next six months l A

0:22:06.119 --> 0:22:08.320
<v Speaker 1>wasn't going to work for them. And well, that's that

0:22:08.520 --> 0:22:10.480
<v Speaker 1>is the best thing I've heard. That's my friend Lauren

0:22:10.520 --> 0:22:12.679
<v Speaker 1>her stick to Lauren. She made that joke last night.

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<v Speaker 1>She's right, um so, and they're what's great about them

0:22:16.920 --> 0:22:18.600
<v Speaker 1>is I think they all know that, and so they're

0:22:18.600 --> 0:22:20.879
<v Speaker 1>all like super like you can go there at any

0:22:20.920 --> 0:22:22.879
<v Speaker 1>moment and take photos of the cast and talk to

0:22:22.880 --> 0:22:26.560
<v Speaker 1>them and congratulate them on their engagement, like firsthand, Like

0:22:27.040 --> 0:22:30.920
<v Speaker 1>I did that snobby not snobby reality famous people because

0:22:30.920 --> 0:22:34.240
<v Speaker 1>they are dependent on being reality famous to like exist

0:22:35.080 --> 0:22:39.440
<v Speaker 1>Los Angeles Um and Sina's extensions look worse in person.

0:22:40.400 --> 0:22:42.960
<v Speaker 1>I mean, I'm saying Shanna should go on Queer Eye,

0:22:44.359 --> 0:22:48.640
<v Speaker 1>just like the emotional like build up. Yeah, exactly. Did

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<v Speaker 1>you watch the like outtakes episode? I watched the first

0:22:51.720 --> 0:22:55.720
<v Speaker 1>half of it rules that was like just all these

0:22:55.720 --> 0:22:58.040
<v Speaker 1>other plotlines they didn't air, But you just made me

0:22:58.080 --> 0:23:00.800
<v Speaker 1>realize also how much they must film, because there was

0:23:00.840 --> 0:23:03.080
<v Speaker 1>so much good stuff in this episode that wasn't a

0:23:03.080 --> 0:23:05.879
<v Speaker 1>real episode, and I was like, this is just as

0:23:05.920 --> 0:23:08.000
<v Speaker 1>good as all the episodes. We I have to interrupt

0:23:08.040 --> 0:23:09.880
<v Speaker 1>you guys, because I know that I'm not the only

0:23:09.920 --> 0:23:12.760
<v Speaker 1>person who doesn't watch Vanderpump Rules. So Brooke, can you

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<v Speaker 1>give the elevator pitch for why everyone should watch? Vander

0:23:16.880 --> 0:23:20.040
<v Speaker 1>Pump Rules is a show about a restaurant with Hollywood

0:23:20.119 --> 0:23:24.800
<v Speaker 1>called Sexy Unique Restaurant, Sir Restaurant, Sexyna Restaurant, Restaurant, Um

0:23:25.520 --> 0:23:29.800
<v Speaker 1>They're the show started, it was about as Stacie h

0:23:29.920 --> 0:23:31.880
<v Speaker 1>Stacie is one of the main kind of the main

0:23:32.080 --> 0:23:36.159
<v Speaker 1>girl of this show, but um Stasie sort of said like,

0:23:36.200 --> 0:23:38.560
<v Speaker 1>we're the hottest at the hottest restaurant, Like neither of

0:23:38.640 --> 0:23:41.600
<v Speaker 1>which are true, but like that's the delusion that runs

0:23:41.640 --> 0:23:44.320
<v Speaker 1>the show. And what's great about this show is all

0:23:44.359 --> 0:23:47.200
<v Speaker 1>of these people were friends before they started filming, so

0:23:47.720 --> 0:23:50.960
<v Speaker 1>they're like reference ship that happened like before they were

0:23:50.960 --> 0:23:53.000
<v Speaker 1>on TV, like the reference like that fight they got

0:23:53.000 --> 0:23:55.880
<v Speaker 1>into in Florida and like two thousand four, so that

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<v Speaker 1>was that was when we only knew of them kind

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<v Speaker 1>of through Real Housewives, and they were like it was

0:24:00.760 --> 0:24:04.160
<v Speaker 1>a backdoor pilot from Real Housewives of Beverly Hills because

0:24:04.160 --> 0:24:06.919
<v Speaker 1>at least the vander Pump's restaurant, and the idea is,

0:24:06.960 --> 0:24:09.840
<v Speaker 1>like I keep saying, it's like melrose Place. It's like

0:24:09.880 --> 0:24:14.080
<v Speaker 1>a group of people who like basically lived together, work together,

0:24:14.359 --> 0:24:18.680
<v Speaker 1>and love together. And there's like a lot of dating

0:24:19.000 --> 0:24:23.240
<v Speaker 1>between everybody, and then breakups and then everybody cheating and lying.

0:24:23.560 --> 0:24:26.880
<v Speaker 1>Everybody still has to work together. And because they were

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<v Speaker 1>all real friends and really like they basically all say like,

0:24:29.920 --> 0:24:32.240
<v Speaker 1>this is just what we were like. And then we

0:24:32.280 --> 0:24:35.439
<v Speaker 1>started filming it and they were trapped in who the

0:24:35.520 --> 0:24:38.080
<v Speaker 1>characters that they had been when they were twenty trapped

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<v Speaker 1>as relative but I would say that they own it

0:24:40.400 --> 0:24:43.000
<v Speaker 1>and are happy to be in these saucy left at

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<v Speaker 1>one point, which was actually but I was saying, it

0:24:45.080 --> 0:24:47.280
<v Speaker 1>was like it became like it becomes more relatable the

0:24:47.280 --> 0:24:48.800
<v Speaker 1>more you watch it. I started watching it because I

0:24:48.840 --> 0:24:50.400
<v Speaker 1>was like, who are these people? I would never care

0:24:50.440 --> 0:24:52.640
<v Speaker 1>about this, And then I was like, they're just like us.

0:24:52.680 --> 0:24:55.240
<v Speaker 1>They're all like trying to get by in Los Angeles

0:24:55.280 --> 0:24:57.479
<v Speaker 1>and like make enough money to pay rent and like

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<v Speaker 1>stay here. Uh, And would you guys on a show

0:25:00.560 --> 0:25:02.960
<v Speaker 1>like Molly, I feel like you would not look. I

0:25:03.000 --> 0:25:06.960
<v Speaker 1>don't know. But then I've also thought a lot about

0:25:06.960 --> 0:25:09.359
<v Speaker 1>like the dystopian future, where like you get to like

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<v Speaker 1>have a house if somebody like films you in it

0:25:11.600 --> 0:25:15.840
<v Speaker 1>twenty four hours ago. Just hypothetically say that someone was like,

0:25:15.960 --> 0:25:18.639
<v Speaker 1>I'll give you whatever a hundred grand a year. You

0:25:18.680 --> 0:25:21.320
<v Speaker 1>get healthcare through SAG, which I'm assuming they joined screen

0:25:21.320 --> 0:25:24.480
<v Speaker 1>Actors guilled and because some guild policies. Right, let's talk

0:25:24.480 --> 0:25:27.280
<v Speaker 1>guilt politics. But would you what would you be willing

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<v Speaker 1>to do under those terms if you were going to

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<v Speaker 1>be a reality star? Okay, I would not do reality

0:25:33.359 --> 0:25:36.440
<v Speaker 1>circa Jersey Shore first run. I would do Jersey Shore.

0:25:36.480 --> 0:25:38.639
<v Speaker 1>I would do reality now so you do like meta

0:25:38.720 --> 0:25:40.880
<v Speaker 1>self aware kind of Really, I would do it now

0:25:40.920 --> 0:25:43.320
<v Speaker 1>that it's more fourth wall breaking, and now that there's

0:25:43.320 --> 0:25:45.959
<v Speaker 1>a way to actually make money when you're not on camera,

0:25:46.080 --> 0:25:49.960
<v Speaker 1>and now that reality stars are not necessarily in the

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<v Speaker 1>town square to be pilloried but just sort of accepted

0:25:52.600 --> 0:25:57.600
<v Speaker 1>as part of the celebrity class. Yeah, I would do it. Nice. Um.

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<v Speaker 1>I would never do one of those shows where you

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<v Speaker 1>have to sign a thing that they can film you

0:26:02.200 --> 0:26:05.119
<v Speaker 1>twenty four hours a day, which is how love and

0:26:05.200 --> 0:26:08.280
<v Speaker 1>hip hop I think works really Yeah, which is also

0:26:08.400 --> 0:26:11.480
<v Speaker 1>I love and hip hop is amazing, but it's like

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<v Speaker 1>I wouldn't do that because I would need to have

0:26:15.280 --> 0:26:17.840
<v Speaker 1>a work life separation. But like if someone came to

0:26:17.920 --> 0:26:20.560
<v Speaker 1>us tomorrow and was like, hey, we're trying to make

0:26:20.600 --> 0:26:24.520
<v Speaker 1>like the real bloggers of Tessa's garage, if it were

0:26:24.600 --> 0:26:28.520
<v Speaker 1>just two friends who smoked, we also like that that

0:26:28.560 --> 0:26:30.880
<v Speaker 1>you're right though, because like we we couldn't even deal

0:26:30.920 --> 0:26:33.800
<v Speaker 1>with like being filmed doing a podcast because we are like, well,

0:26:33.800 --> 0:26:37.400
<v Speaker 1>we couldn't for our current price tech. But it's perhaps

0:26:37.480 --> 0:26:41.439
<v Speaker 1>if somebody wants to film I'm I'm leaning towards of

0:26:41.520 --> 0:26:44.240
<v Speaker 1>rook saying, I mean, really, well, if it weren't twenty

0:26:44.280 --> 0:26:46.760
<v Speaker 1>four hours a day, if you could say smart like

0:26:46.800 --> 0:26:48.760
<v Speaker 1>I'm on the clock, I'm off the clock, right, Yeah,

0:26:48.800 --> 0:26:50.520
<v Speaker 1>I mean that was a smart caveat because I think

0:26:50.560 --> 0:26:53.399
<v Speaker 1>that that's really the trick, is that it's performative in

0:26:53.480 --> 0:26:56.119
<v Speaker 1>much the same way that blogging was. You know, I

0:26:56.119 --> 0:26:58.040
<v Speaker 1>think we've talked about this a lot with vander Pump,

0:26:58.080 --> 0:26:59.919
<v Speaker 1>Like the thing with the reunion this year on Van

0:27:00.080 --> 0:27:02.760
<v Speaker 1>or Pump is that like some of the people understand

0:27:03.359 --> 0:27:05.960
<v Speaker 1>where the line is more than others on that show,

0:27:06.640 --> 0:27:09.160
<v Speaker 1>and like figure out a way to have the work

0:27:09.200 --> 0:27:11.600
<v Speaker 1>life separation. But then if you have it too much,

0:27:11.720 --> 0:27:14.800
<v Speaker 1>they threatened to demote you if you're like not due

0:27:14.800 --> 0:27:24.520
<v Speaker 1>to participating. You know audio Boom smash Hit podcast Mafia

0:27:24.760 --> 0:27:27.719
<v Speaker 1>is back for season two, taking us back into America's

0:27:27.760 --> 0:27:31.040
<v Speaker 1>criminal underworld, exploring the lives and careers of the most

0:27:31.080 --> 0:27:35.600
<v Speaker 1>powerful gangsters the world has ever seen. Through extensive research

0:27:35.600 --> 0:27:39.000
<v Speaker 1>and eyewitness stories, Mafia reveals what life was really like

0:27:39.200 --> 0:27:42.640
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<v Speaker 1>In season one, we were brought closer than ever to

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<v Speaker 1>two is no exception, covering the lives of Carmine Galante,

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0:28:04.560 --> 0:28:08.280
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0:28:08.320 --> 0:28:13.240
<v Speaker 1>how they were eventually brought to justice. Find Mafia on Apple, Podcast, Spotify,

0:28:13.440 --> 0:28:27.399
<v Speaker 1>and every other listening destination. I think reality shows have

0:28:27.640 --> 0:28:30.879
<v Speaker 1>changed so much in the past fifteen years and what

0:28:30.920 --> 0:28:34.480
<v Speaker 1>we expect of our reality stars is different. I was

0:28:34.520 --> 0:28:38.000
<v Speaker 1>listening to a podcast um Invisible, and they were talking

0:28:38.000 --> 0:28:41.200
<v Speaker 1>about laugh tracks and how laugh tracks were initially brought

0:28:41.240 --> 0:28:43.120
<v Speaker 1>in to kind of teach people how to watch TV

0:28:43.200 --> 0:28:44.959
<v Speaker 1>in their homes because it was the first time they

0:28:44.960 --> 0:28:49.680
<v Speaker 1>were separating from like seeing entertainment live. I was like

0:28:49.720 --> 0:28:51.240
<v Speaker 1>sitting at home. So they were like, now you can

0:28:51.320 --> 0:28:53.480
<v Speaker 1>you can laugh like alone, you can like laugh along

0:28:53.480 --> 0:28:55.320
<v Speaker 1>with the audience. And I feel like there was a

0:28:55.320 --> 0:28:56.760
<v Speaker 1>period of time where we had to learn how to

0:28:56.800 --> 0:28:59.280
<v Speaker 1>watch reality and so they didn't acknowledge that it was

0:28:59.320 --> 0:29:01.480
<v Speaker 1>a reality show, and they tried to teach it, teach

0:29:01.600 --> 0:29:03.360
<v Speaker 1>us like, oh, this is just like a normal show,

0:29:03.400 --> 0:29:05.840
<v Speaker 1>but it's just like real people. And now I think

0:29:05.880 --> 0:29:09.440
<v Speaker 1>that wall is breaking down and so they can be

0:29:09.520 --> 0:29:11.760
<v Speaker 1>more honest of like, this is what I chose to

0:29:11.760 --> 0:29:13.800
<v Speaker 1>put on camera, and this is what I chose to

0:29:13.880 --> 0:29:15.640
<v Speaker 1>not put on camera, and this is why. And I think,

0:29:15.640 --> 0:29:18.240
<v Speaker 1>like Stacy a few years ago, one of the reasons

0:29:18.240 --> 0:29:20.280
<v Speaker 1>she had a big falling out with Shena. She felt

0:29:20.280 --> 0:29:22.640
<v Speaker 1>like Sina was spreading around that there was like a

0:29:22.680 --> 0:29:26.160
<v Speaker 1>sex tape of Stas and saucis like, you know why

0:29:26.160 --> 0:29:28.280
<v Speaker 1>we're not friends, Like it's about this sex tape, which

0:29:28.360 --> 0:29:32.800
<v Speaker 1>is like a common shop actually in reality show. Yeah. Um,

0:29:33.080 --> 0:29:35.480
<v Speaker 1>but you know so I think like now that we

0:29:35.520 --> 0:29:38.720
<v Speaker 1>as an audience like understand what reality shows are, I

0:29:38.760 --> 0:29:41.360
<v Speaker 1>think it's safer to be a reality star. And I

0:29:41.400 --> 0:29:44.600
<v Speaker 1>think also, I mean when you consider that fourteen years

0:29:44.600 --> 0:29:47.920
<v Speaker 1>ago or whatever, you know, nobody was We talked about this,

0:29:47.960 --> 0:29:50.040
<v Speaker 1>I think in the last podcast of the difference between

0:29:50.120 --> 0:29:53.080
<v Speaker 1>looking at printed photos, you know, and then the selfies,

0:29:53.160 --> 0:29:57.280
<v Speaker 1>and like also just being comfortable sharing so much with people,

0:29:57.360 --> 0:29:59.920
<v Speaker 1>and then all of a sudden, you're like, why is

0:30:00.040 --> 0:30:02.680
<v Speaker 1>it really something to like feel self conscious about? At

0:30:02.680 --> 0:30:05.640
<v Speaker 1>this point, it doesn't even seem that way, right, reality

0:30:05.720 --> 0:30:07.920
<v Speaker 1>is sort of crossing into just like this is like

0:30:08.480 --> 0:30:11.200
<v Speaker 1>not that much different from scripted programming. It's just that

0:30:11.280 --> 0:30:13.960
<v Speaker 1>it's more like improv drama sort of how I think

0:30:13.960 --> 0:30:16.560
<v Speaker 1>about it. Yeah, And it's on that like incredibly long

0:30:16.600 --> 0:30:19.080
<v Speaker 1>time scale. The good shows like Mander Pump Rules is

0:30:19.080 --> 0:30:22.000
<v Speaker 1>amazing because it starts out really strong and then it

0:30:22.000 --> 0:30:25.600
<v Speaker 1>gets crazier every season. So at first all the seasons

0:30:25.600 --> 0:30:29.360
<v Speaker 1>are about like somebody is accused of having cheated on someone,

0:30:29.800 --> 0:30:32.160
<v Speaker 1>and then the whole season is them denying it and

0:30:32.160 --> 0:30:34.840
<v Speaker 1>then at the end being like, yeah, Okay, I did it.

0:30:34.840 --> 0:30:37.760
<v Speaker 1>It's like reality show meets Veronica Mars. Yeah, it's a

0:30:37.800 --> 0:30:39.840
<v Speaker 1>little bit like a murder mystery of like, you know,

0:30:40.000 --> 0:30:44.280
<v Speaker 1>did Jack's have sex with a girl? Spoiler always yes.

0:30:45.800 --> 0:30:48.920
<v Speaker 1>But then it's like that pattern repeats itself every season,

0:30:49.080 --> 0:30:51.600
<v Speaker 1>and by like the fifth or sixth time that Jack's

0:30:51.640 --> 0:30:55.040
<v Speaker 1>is like blowing a relationship by cheating, you're like really

0:30:55.080 --> 0:30:57.960
<v Speaker 1>invested in Jack's, you know, and you're like it's like

0:30:58.040 --> 0:31:00.640
<v Speaker 1>Don Draper, You're like, is he gonna like figure it out?

0:31:00.720 --> 0:31:05.200
<v Speaker 1>Canny be redeemed, like he seems really self aware to

0:31:05.520 --> 0:31:08.040
<v Speaker 1>like what makes Jack's a great character, And there's like

0:31:08.080 --> 0:31:09.440
<v Speaker 1>a lot of like, well, how can you not be

0:31:09.480 --> 0:31:11.440
<v Speaker 1>self aware in a way after that many seasons of

0:31:11.480 --> 0:31:14.920
<v Speaker 1>watching yourself on television because not everybody is like but

0:31:14.960 --> 0:31:16.880
<v Speaker 1>I mean, you get to see what your arc has

0:31:17.120 --> 0:31:19.840
<v Speaker 1>been formed as right, But if you were Jack's and

0:31:19.880 --> 0:31:22.000
<v Speaker 1>you like saw your arc, you'd be like, I shouldn't

0:31:22.000 --> 0:31:26.160
<v Speaker 1>be on television because like, I'm really embarrassing. Its long

0:31:26.240 --> 0:31:28.600
<v Speaker 1>con all the time. I think it is like the

0:31:28.680 --> 0:31:32.720
<v Speaker 1>ring he bought Brittany is worth seventy and he paid

0:31:32.800 --> 0:31:35.640
<v Speaker 1>fifty k for it. Like that's the kind of money

0:31:35.680 --> 0:31:37.760
<v Speaker 1>these people are making now. They never would have made

0:31:37.800 --> 0:31:39.920
<v Speaker 1>that legit, but for the show, they sort of have

0:31:40.040 --> 0:31:42.880
<v Speaker 1>to pretend that they're still struggling, you know, because that's

0:31:42.920 --> 0:31:44.720
<v Speaker 1>like how the show works. Like my friend was talking

0:31:44.720 --> 0:31:47.440
<v Speaker 1>about how when they opened Tom Tom, it's like they

0:31:47.480 --> 0:31:51.280
<v Speaker 1>can't invite Jennifer Lawrence and like Rihanna, who are like

0:31:51.320 --> 0:31:53.880
<v Speaker 1>fans of Vanderpump Rules, because that'll break the wall of

0:31:54.000 --> 0:31:57.400
<v Speaker 1>like they're dependent on Vanderpump Rules. Though, so in a

0:31:57.440 --> 0:32:00.080
<v Speaker 1>way because it's not you know, it's not like a

0:32:00.160 --> 0:32:02.360
<v Speaker 1>building block of a career. It's like you're kind of

0:32:02.400 --> 0:32:04.920
<v Speaker 1>locked in. So they are still struggling, just in terms

0:32:04.960 --> 0:32:06.800
<v Speaker 1>of the fact that if they lost vander Pump Rules,

0:32:06.920 --> 0:32:10.400
<v Speaker 1>they have to keep the show interesting. Tests you were

0:32:10.440 --> 0:32:12.440
<v Speaker 1>really excited to hear that your favorite reality show of

0:32:12.480 --> 0:32:16.880
<v Speaker 1>all time is coming back. Oh, Temptation Island, you know, yeah,

0:32:16.880 --> 0:32:19.400
<v Speaker 1>it's coming back, but so it's being rebooted along with

0:32:19.680 --> 0:32:23.240
<v Speaker 1>Wife Swap and Shipwrecked Island, which is a British um

0:32:23.240 --> 0:32:26.760
<v Speaker 1>it's really Contemptation. Yeah, well it's not exactly. It's not

0:32:26.880 --> 0:32:28.840
<v Speaker 1>the Crux. Isn't that it's a couple. It's like just

0:32:28.920 --> 0:32:31.040
<v Speaker 1>a bunch of hot twenty year olds being like, I'm

0:32:31.040 --> 0:32:36.000
<v Speaker 1>on a bitch, I'm on a bit. Survivor just like Survivor,

0:32:36.040 --> 0:32:39.000
<v Speaker 1>but not not making them do anything. I love Survivor,

0:32:39.040 --> 0:32:42.400
<v Speaker 1>as everybody knows, that's my favorite show. Um the last Survivor,

0:32:42.520 --> 0:32:45.400
<v Speaker 1>I am the last. The first season of Survivors maybe

0:32:45.440 --> 0:32:48.640
<v Speaker 1>one of the best things that a person who kept

0:32:48.680 --> 0:32:51.680
<v Speaker 1>going even though it doesn't build, because it's like new

0:32:51.720 --> 0:32:55.440
<v Speaker 1>people every y. This is how reality is changing. It's true.

0:32:55.760 --> 0:32:58.040
<v Speaker 1>I mean, I think what's interesting too is talking about

0:32:58.040 --> 0:33:00.680
<v Speaker 1>being dependent on a show. Is Jeff pro just like

0:33:00.760 --> 0:33:03.000
<v Speaker 1>the best host of all time, and then he went

0:33:03.040 --> 0:33:05.120
<v Speaker 1>on to host a talk show and I was like,

0:33:05.240 --> 0:33:08.320
<v Speaker 1>oh my god, Jeff like put him back on the island.

0:33:08.320 --> 0:33:11.320
<v Speaker 1>It was bad. It was canceled, immediately passed. Would you

0:33:11.360 --> 0:33:14.040
<v Speaker 1>go on Temptation Island? No? I would never go on Temptation.

0:33:14.360 --> 0:33:17.920
<v Speaker 1>So Temptation Island the first season was mark during our

0:33:17.960 --> 0:33:22.440
<v Speaker 1>I think senior year of high school, and uh, it

0:33:22.480 --> 0:33:24.840
<v Speaker 1>blew my mind that this is on television, like it

0:33:24.880 --> 0:33:29.720
<v Speaker 1>really did. It was so so shamelessly horrible. I mean

0:33:29.800 --> 0:33:32.640
<v Speaker 1>it was like, we're gonna and especially after a couple

0:33:32.720 --> 0:33:34.800
<v Speaker 1>was revealed to have a child and they lied about it,

0:33:34.840 --> 0:33:36.840
<v Speaker 1>and then you look at what was shown on this

0:33:36.840 --> 0:33:39.800
<v Speaker 1>show and it was like a morality where they were

0:33:39.800 --> 0:33:42.480
<v Speaker 1>really testing the boundaries of what you could do on TV.

0:33:42.680 --> 0:33:44.840
<v Speaker 1>And like we always talked about it, but The Swan

0:33:45.120 --> 0:33:48.320
<v Speaker 1>was really the apack with the Swan was the reality

0:33:48.320 --> 0:33:52.280
<v Speaker 1>show where they gave a bunch of ugly women plastic

0:33:52.320 --> 0:33:56.239
<v Speaker 1>surgery makeovers and then they had a beauty contest and

0:33:56.280 --> 0:33:59.000
<v Speaker 1>it was like the world and then it ruined all

0:33:59.040 --> 0:34:00.720
<v Speaker 1>their lives. You know what it You know what someone

0:34:00.720 --> 0:34:05.520
<v Speaker 1>should do and oh god, there's someone. Someone should just

0:34:05.920 --> 0:34:07.800
<v Speaker 1>do some kind of a cut on YouTube of the

0:34:07.840 --> 0:34:10.799
<v Speaker 1>Swan but with Requiem for a Dream music because that's

0:34:10.840 --> 0:34:13.440
<v Speaker 1>like exactly how you experience I remember this face on

0:34:13.440 --> 0:34:17.040
<v Speaker 1>the woman that one and I was like, young, yeah,

0:34:17.360 --> 0:34:21.200
<v Speaker 1>we watched it. I remember also being like wow, like

0:34:21.360 --> 0:34:23.880
<v Speaker 1>that was what I thought America was going into the

0:34:23.960 --> 0:34:27.480
<v Speaker 1>dark timeline. But then there was like in between purgatorial

0:34:27.640 --> 0:34:31.520
<v Speaker 1>period before things got really weird. I don't know if

0:34:31.520 --> 0:34:33.680
<v Speaker 1>it's like because I was in high school during the odds,

0:34:33.680 --> 0:34:35.840
<v Speaker 1>but like, I just have such an obsession with the

0:34:35.840 --> 0:34:39.200
<v Speaker 1>aesthetics of like of like the two Girls one Pizza

0:34:39.239 --> 0:34:42.720
<v Speaker 1>thing or two in like the Who's an Instagram person?

0:34:42.840 --> 0:34:46.360
<v Speaker 1>But like Paris Hilton from back then and like the

0:34:46.480 --> 0:34:48.920
<v Speaker 1>Rachel Zoe like that was the thing was like I

0:34:49.000 --> 0:34:51.800
<v Speaker 1>thought I couldn't get worse than that, like oh, this

0:34:51.960 --> 0:34:54.719
<v Speaker 1>empty consumerism, and then I was like, you know what's

0:34:54.719 --> 0:34:57.560
<v Speaker 1>worse than that. It's like white supremacy just but also

0:34:57.600 --> 0:34:59.480
<v Speaker 1>you ever thought that we would get to white supremacy

0:34:59.520 --> 0:35:02.080
<v Speaker 1>Parishi And that was also like there's like video of

0:35:02.080 --> 0:35:04.440
<v Speaker 1>her being racist, Like why are we letting this person

0:35:04.480 --> 0:35:06.879
<v Speaker 1>be famous just because they're rich? Like it makes no sense.

0:35:06.920 --> 0:35:10.359
<v Speaker 1>It was all like a dry run I guess maybe

0:35:10.400 --> 0:35:14.000
<v Speaker 1>a wet run r I p America. And there was

0:35:14.080 --> 0:35:16.240
<v Speaker 1>like we had the writer strike and so then reality

0:35:16.280 --> 0:35:18.640
<v Speaker 1>shows blew up. You know, Yeah, that's right. That was

0:35:18.640 --> 0:35:22.200
<v Speaker 1>why reality people don't have. People don't talk about that enough,

0:35:22.239 --> 0:35:24.160
<v Speaker 1>and that's I don't have to pay the writers because

0:35:24.200 --> 0:35:26.600
<v Speaker 1>reality shows like do have writers really just there in

0:35:26.680 --> 0:35:29.640
<v Speaker 1>different guilds. Yeah, it doesn't count. It's so funked up.

0:35:29.680 --> 0:35:31.920
<v Speaker 1>And that was also two dozen seven leading into the

0:35:31.920 --> 0:35:34.319
<v Speaker 1>writer strike is the summer of Britney Spears using her

0:35:34.360 --> 0:35:38.160
<v Speaker 1>mind publicly and the beginning of the fall of Lindsay Lowen.

0:35:38.239 --> 0:35:40.160
<v Speaker 1>Like a lot of things happened in a seven and

0:35:40.320 --> 0:35:42.600
<v Speaker 1>very important year. We're gonna look back on it. What

0:35:42.800 --> 0:35:45.600
<v Speaker 1>was it now? Like eleven years ago? I can't believe.

0:35:45.960 --> 0:35:48.720
<v Speaker 1>You know, we should we should also just yeah, we should,

0:35:48.880 --> 0:35:51.719
<v Speaker 1>we should also just be proud of Brittany. I love

0:35:52.560 --> 0:35:55.279
<v Speaker 1>she looks really happy with her personal trainer boyfriend, and

0:35:55.320 --> 0:35:58.680
<v Speaker 1>she's painting a lot, and she loves her kids and

0:35:58.680 --> 0:36:04.080
<v Speaker 1>wear's funny outfits and battle them. She's perfect. You're gonna

0:36:04.080 --> 0:36:06.760
<v Speaker 1>talk about vaping for a second as a lead into

0:36:06.760 --> 0:36:09.160
<v Speaker 1>a segment about jam bands, because I feel like those

0:36:09.200 --> 0:36:12.320
<v Speaker 1>things are connected. Do you guys have feelings about vaping?

0:36:13.480 --> 0:36:16.520
<v Speaker 1>So this is all right? Listen. So I've been like

0:36:16.600 --> 0:36:19.560
<v Speaker 1>often on smoking for like a billion years, and I

0:36:19.680 --> 0:36:22.160
<v Speaker 1>keep quitting, and I'm about to quit again after having

0:36:22.200 --> 0:36:24.480
<v Speaker 1>fallen off the wagon. I'm like a most people who

0:36:24.480 --> 0:36:26.560
<v Speaker 1>know me don't know I do because I do it

0:36:26.640 --> 0:36:30.680
<v Speaker 1>like during like specific times. Um But I obviously hate

0:36:30.719 --> 0:36:34.840
<v Speaker 1>that I do it, as I think most everybody does. UM.

0:36:34.920 --> 0:36:38.120
<v Speaker 1>So in the past, when I've been like leading up

0:36:38.160 --> 0:36:41.760
<v Speaker 1>to quitting. I have tried vaping, and I hate vaping.

0:36:41.960 --> 0:36:44.120
<v Speaker 1>I hate it. Why do you hate about it? A

0:36:44.239 --> 0:36:47.080
<v Speaker 1>plastic element, which is psycho because I'm like, it must

0:36:47.120 --> 0:36:52.000
<v Speaker 1>be so unhealthy forget. But it is strange to be like,

0:36:52.040 --> 0:36:58.080
<v Speaker 1>I'm a cigarette comes from the glass, yes, because there's

0:36:58.080 --> 0:37:01.080
<v Speaker 1>something about heating up plastic having it be kind of

0:37:01.080 --> 0:37:04.239
<v Speaker 1>like a rogue industry where they're like anything's better than

0:37:04.239 --> 0:37:06.879
<v Speaker 1>the old school ways, so just don't worry about it.

0:37:07.040 --> 0:37:10.000
<v Speaker 1>I got a really cheapy one because I was like, Okay,

0:37:10.040 --> 0:37:12.600
<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna quit, like over the weekend, but to like,

0:37:12.719 --> 0:37:15.080
<v Speaker 1>I'm not going to buy any cigarettes. I'm just gonna

0:37:15.120 --> 0:37:17.680
<v Speaker 1>like vape and then I'm gonna quit. And it was

0:37:17.760 --> 0:37:20.799
<v Speaker 1>like a week of me just like staring at this thing,

0:37:20.880 --> 0:37:23.279
<v Speaker 1>being like what is this thing? I don't know what

0:37:23.320 --> 0:37:25.480
<v Speaker 1>it is, and then sucking on it. I was like,

0:37:25.520 --> 0:37:28.279
<v Speaker 1>it feels there's like an element of like putting a

0:37:28.320 --> 0:37:31.160
<v Speaker 1>toy in your mouth, like a cheap plastic True Detective

0:37:31.160 --> 0:37:33.800
<v Speaker 1>Season two, I Tried, Molly Tried my Best. It was

0:37:33.840 --> 0:37:36.000
<v Speaker 1>a part where one of the characters since he doesn't

0:37:36.000 --> 0:37:38.920
<v Speaker 1>like vaping because it's like sucking a robot stick if

0:37:38.960 --> 0:37:41.359
<v Speaker 1>it were a robot stick. It would be metal, and

0:37:41.400 --> 0:37:43.719
<v Speaker 1>in a way, I'd be better with that, but it's

0:37:43.800 --> 0:37:46.520
<v Speaker 1>instead it's like Barbie's leg or something. Right, it doesn't

0:37:46.520 --> 0:37:48.840
<v Speaker 1>seem good to heat up plastic, That's what I'm saying

0:37:49.040 --> 0:37:51.400
<v Speaker 1>any reason, not like it's good to light a bunch

0:37:51.400 --> 0:37:54.560
<v Speaker 1>of stuff on fire and suck smoke into your lungs.

0:37:54.680 --> 0:37:57.080
<v Speaker 1>But at the same time, it's like I feel maybe

0:37:57.120 --> 0:38:01.000
<v Speaker 1>vaping has advanced. I'm like, it's always advancing. That's what's

0:38:01.040 --> 0:38:05.239
<v Speaker 1>scary about it. They're constantly updating the technology. I don't

0:38:05.280 --> 0:38:10.560
<v Speaker 1>smoke cigarettes, but I smoke weed vapes, and I've totally

0:38:10.600 --> 0:38:13.719
<v Speaker 1>like gotten a million different kinds because the technology has

0:38:13.800 --> 0:38:16.160
<v Speaker 1>updated so many different times in the time since it

0:38:16.239 --> 0:38:18.960
<v Speaker 1>first became a thing, And every time I'm like, this

0:38:19.040 --> 0:38:22.400
<v Speaker 1>seems kind of unregulated, and like, uh, you know, if

0:38:22.440 --> 0:38:25.080
<v Speaker 1>they're tomorrow like this kills you will all be like, well,

0:38:25.120 --> 0:38:28.359
<v Speaker 1>we didn't. But it's also so different like if you

0:38:28.520 --> 0:38:31.480
<v Speaker 1>if you smoke weed and then you vape using one

0:38:31.520 --> 0:38:33.839
<v Speaker 1>of those pens, it's like a different sensation where you're like,

0:38:34.120 --> 0:38:36.239
<v Speaker 1>I'm not stoned, I'm not stoned, and then you leave

0:38:36.280 --> 0:38:39.120
<v Speaker 1>the house and you're like, oh, I was super stoned,

0:38:39.160 --> 0:38:42.960
<v Speaker 1>but it's a totally different sensation. Yeah. Gia Tolentino Rede

0:38:42.960 --> 0:38:45.600
<v Speaker 1>a really good article for The New Yorker about jewels

0:38:45.880 --> 0:38:48.600
<v Speaker 1>and like the cult of vaping. Um that was mostly

0:38:48.640 --> 0:38:50.800
<v Speaker 1>about like kids vaping and how the kids loved a

0:38:50.840 --> 0:38:53.359
<v Speaker 1>vape and you can't stop them from vaping. And I

0:38:53.440 --> 0:38:55.319
<v Speaker 1>was like, of course they loved a vape for the

0:38:55.360 --> 0:38:57.960
<v Speaker 1>same reason kids love to smoke cigarettes. It's because adults

0:38:58.000 --> 0:39:01.359
<v Speaker 1>don't want you to. And especially really with vaping, it's

0:39:01.400 --> 0:39:05.000
<v Speaker 1>like they can do it anywhere. And we were talking

0:39:05.040 --> 0:39:09.280
<v Speaker 1>about this so as like as the listeners may have noticed,

0:39:09.320 --> 0:39:13.760
<v Speaker 1>I am watching the new season of Jersey Shore and um,

0:39:13.760 --> 0:39:15.880
<v Speaker 1>so I haven't watched MTV and years and they have

0:39:16.040 --> 0:39:19.359
<v Speaker 1>the anti vaping ads like all the time do they

0:39:19.400 --> 0:39:23.839
<v Speaker 1>make They said that there's one that tastes like Captain Crunch. Yeah,

0:39:23.880 --> 0:39:25.680
<v Speaker 1>that's the thing that I was, like, what the fun

0:39:25.880 --> 0:39:29.359
<v Speaker 1>is everything I've ever wanted? Yeah, Like the ads, the

0:39:29.400 --> 0:39:32.359
<v Speaker 1>anti vaping ads that they put out are like, uh,

0:39:32.680 --> 0:39:35.080
<v Speaker 1>supposed to get you not to want a vape by

0:39:35.080 --> 0:39:38.799
<v Speaker 1>being like they're advertising these two kids and kids are

0:39:38.800 --> 0:39:41.400
<v Speaker 1>gonna like get if. They have a campaign called Flavors

0:39:41.400 --> 0:39:45.560
<v Speaker 1>hook kids that I saw Flavors hook me. I saw

0:39:45.600 --> 0:39:47.440
<v Speaker 1>the billboard and I like almost took a picture of

0:39:47.480 --> 0:39:49.319
<v Speaker 1>it because it was like it was like vapes with

0:39:49.360 --> 0:39:51.560
<v Speaker 1>like vapes as an ice cream cone and then just

0:39:51.640 --> 0:39:53.720
<v Speaker 1>like ice cream on top, and all of the ads

0:39:53.719 --> 0:39:55.799
<v Speaker 1>are like that. They're like a vape with like a

0:39:55.800 --> 0:39:58.000
<v Speaker 1>cloud of cotton candy coming out of it. I was like,

0:39:58.080 --> 0:40:01.160
<v Speaker 1>these are the best vape ads I've ever we're seen. Honestly,

0:40:01.360 --> 0:40:03.280
<v Speaker 1>these are going to do more to get kids start

0:40:03.400 --> 0:40:08.200
<v Speaker 1>vaping than like any actual When I was in high school,

0:40:08.560 --> 0:40:11.279
<v Speaker 1>I smoked clothes because I didn't like, Yeah, that's what

0:40:11.320 --> 0:40:14.279
<v Speaker 1>it reminds me of. Yeah, the clothes like tasted like

0:40:14.360 --> 0:40:18.359
<v Speaker 1>so good, And that's like what vaping is now, I think,

0:40:18.520 --> 0:40:21.680
<v Speaker 1>because it is a rebellion, but it's like drinking. It's

0:40:21.719 --> 0:40:24.319
<v Speaker 1>a rebellion. And like the fact that adults hate it

0:40:24.400 --> 0:40:27.120
<v Speaker 1>and that adults wanted to like be gone, it's of

0:40:27.160 --> 0:40:28.960
<v Speaker 1>course going to make kids want to do it more.

0:40:29.560 --> 0:40:32.680
<v Speaker 1>Like my friend who's a teacher at a high school

0:40:32.800 --> 0:40:34.760
<v Speaker 1>was saying that like all the kids do is vape

0:40:35.000 --> 0:40:37.000
<v Speaker 1>during their breaks, you know, and that he just makes

0:40:37.000 --> 0:40:39.400
<v Speaker 1>fun of them by being like Hey, you guys vaping

0:40:39.480 --> 0:40:44.120
<v Speaker 1>some fat clouds like mock them and they're like yo.

0:40:45.600 --> 0:40:49.600
<v Speaker 1>But like I I personally find the flavored vapes really gross.

0:40:49.640 --> 0:40:52.719
<v Speaker 1>They remind me of like flavored hookah kind of you know,

0:40:52.920 --> 0:40:57.719
<v Speaker 1>it's like that too. Really I'm into this. I'm like

0:40:57.840 --> 0:41:01.839
<v Speaker 1>brook multi layers. Now. I grew up in like trashy

0:41:01.920 --> 0:41:05.840
<v Speaker 1>white like white Trashville, USA, so like I have a

0:41:05.840 --> 0:41:09.480
<v Speaker 1>lot of trash. Are you drinking Fresca? Um? No, I've

0:41:09.520 --> 0:41:12.000
<v Speaker 1>never been a soda person because I've also always been

0:41:12.000 --> 0:41:18.879
<v Speaker 1>like California. So it's just flavored vapes. It's like the yeah, clothes, Yes,

0:41:18.960 --> 0:41:21.480
<v Speaker 1>I love clothes. Um. For a while I was drinking

0:41:21.520 --> 0:41:25.120
<v Speaker 1>Fresca and going fresca vodkas and hookah. I think that's

0:41:25.160 --> 0:41:28.120
<v Speaker 1>like just the worst, Like before I die, the flash

0:41:28.200 --> 0:41:31.919
<v Speaker 1>that's very vodka gives me like full on like two

0:41:32.000 --> 0:41:36.960
<v Speaker 1>thousand five visceral bad flashbatts. Yeah. The thing of like

0:41:37.320 --> 0:41:40.000
<v Speaker 1>I don't know, I'm just like, am I being a

0:41:40.040 --> 0:41:43.160
<v Speaker 1>libertarian If I'm like, don't you can't ban flavors? Like

0:41:43.200 --> 0:41:45.400
<v Speaker 1>what's the point like the genies out of the bottle?

0:41:45.520 --> 0:41:48.800
<v Speaker 1>And also like all these people make like homebrew vape juice.

0:41:49.280 --> 0:41:51.600
<v Speaker 1>So even if they do band flavors, I feel like

0:41:51.600 --> 0:41:54.520
<v Speaker 1>there will still be people being like, yo, I've got

0:41:54.560 --> 0:41:57.759
<v Speaker 1>the cotton candies. Speaking of two thousand seven, remember when

0:41:57.760 --> 0:42:00.279
<v Speaker 1>there were all those gossip stories about everybody doing like

0:42:00.480 --> 0:42:04.440
<v Speaker 1>blow cut with strawberry quick No, oh, well because Diane

0:42:04.440 --> 0:42:09.280
<v Speaker 1>Feinstein didn't she recently? Uh like last day, Diane Einstein

0:42:09.400 --> 0:42:13.879
<v Speaker 1>getting super lit on strawberry day coke is the best thing.

0:42:14.040 --> 0:42:15.880
<v Speaker 1>I would vote for her if she did that. Well.

0:42:16.000 --> 0:42:18.560
<v Speaker 1>I feel like last year she was like everyone, we

0:42:18.600 --> 0:42:20.600
<v Speaker 1>have a lot of problems, but right now we need

0:42:20.680 --> 0:42:23.600
<v Speaker 1>to really worry about the strawberry quick cut with drugs.

0:42:24.000 --> 0:42:27.120
<v Speaker 1>And she got made fun of also by me. I

0:42:27.160 --> 0:42:29.360
<v Speaker 1>took it. I was like I care about this cause

0:42:29.360 --> 0:42:31.520
<v Speaker 1>where I was like, just it's not a real thing,

0:42:31.640 --> 0:42:34.040
<v Speaker 1>like Snopes looked into it. It's not really I mean

0:42:34.040 --> 0:42:35.840
<v Speaker 1>it was a real thing with like Lindsey Lohan and

0:42:35.920 --> 0:42:38.440
<v Speaker 1>people who we're gonna put whatever you want in your drugs,

0:42:38.440 --> 0:42:40.279
<v Speaker 1>but you're not like I'm going to market this meth

0:42:40.400 --> 0:42:43.400
<v Speaker 1>to children by making it taste straw All those I

0:42:43.400 --> 0:42:45.040
<v Speaker 1>know that this joke has been made, where all those

0:42:45.080 --> 0:42:47.520
<v Speaker 1>drug dealers that are giving me free drugs to get hooked.

0:42:47.640 --> 0:42:51.080
<v Speaker 1>I never met that person. Well you know, don't look

0:42:51.120 --> 0:42:53.480
<v Speaker 1>for us standing outside the playground handing out the vapes

0:42:53.600 --> 0:42:56.160
<v Speaker 1>or anything. But you know, I got it. I got

0:42:56.160 --> 0:42:58.680
<v Speaker 1>a side with the kids that vape. It seems like

0:42:58.719 --> 0:43:02.800
<v Speaker 1>there are less downside than like regular smoking. I guess

0:43:02.840 --> 0:43:05.400
<v Speaker 1>the idea is to like get kids like hooked and

0:43:05.440 --> 0:43:07.719
<v Speaker 1>then they buy the things forever, which is still you know,

0:43:08.800 --> 0:43:12.279
<v Speaker 1>but um there was the main thing I saw that

0:43:12.400 --> 0:43:14.719
<v Speaker 1>was from Geo's article was that you can get something

0:43:14.719 --> 0:43:19.839
<v Speaker 1>called popcorn lung which well what I envisioned was much

0:43:19.840 --> 0:43:24.000
<v Speaker 1>worse than what I'm envisioning envisioning like lungs made of popcorn.

0:43:24.080 --> 0:43:26.400
<v Speaker 1>But it's actually I think it's like the thing you

0:43:26.440 --> 0:43:28.600
<v Speaker 1>would get from being in a movie theater lobby that

0:43:28.680 --> 0:43:30.880
<v Speaker 1>had the like coconut oil haze in the area at

0:43:30.880 --> 0:43:33.560
<v Speaker 1>the time, where it's just like you're like, lungs get

0:43:33.560 --> 0:43:37.680
<v Speaker 1>clogged with oil. But that happened, happens with like some

0:43:37.760 --> 0:43:41.280
<v Speaker 1>bad vapes, I think, but are like movie theater employees

0:43:41.320 --> 0:43:43.880
<v Speaker 1>like at risk. Yeah, that was like another like eighties

0:43:43.920 --> 0:43:46.040
<v Speaker 1>news story. I feel like where it was like people

0:43:46.120 --> 0:43:48.840
<v Speaker 1>are getting popcorn long from like working in the pop

0:43:48.880 --> 0:43:51.960
<v Speaker 1>hashtag the rig and era, why the problem? That's why

0:43:52.000 --> 0:43:55.600
<v Speaker 1>they stopped having that butter wasn't that called world that

0:43:55.680 --> 0:43:59.840
<v Speaker 1>was in the cafeteria college. Stuff that burnt doesn't burn.

0:44:00.040 --> 0:44:05.279
<v Speaker 1>It's a super high temperature. But then it's like in

0:44:05.360 --> 0:44:08.600
<v Speaker 1>the air or something. Guys speaking of something in the air,

0:44:08.680 --> 0:44:12.400
<v Speaker 1>spaking of hazes in the air. Um, we were going

0:44:12.440 --> 0:44:18.480
<v Speaker 1>to take a nightcall. Hey, Molly tests and Emily. This

0:44:18.680 --> 0:44:21.680
<v Speaker 1>is Mike Ferguson. I was just calling to Reference for

0:44:21.840 --> 0:44:25.520
<v Speaker 1>the Nightcall pod. The conversation we were having on Twitter

0:44:25.760 --> 0:44:30.719
<v Speaker 1>about Fish and the Grateful Dead, and I want to

0:44:31.160 --> 0:44:34.160
<v Speaker 1>hear opinions. I'm curious to what people think about it,

0:44:34.200 --> 0:44:36.799
<v Speaker 1>if there's been an impact, Emily, if you like it

0:44:36.960 --> 0:44:40.920
<v Speaker 1>or hate it, or are unexposed to it. The real

0:44:41.040 --> 0:44:43.720
<v Speaker 1>question I have is, if you were to introduce somebody

0:44:43.800 --> 0:44:47.839
<v Speaker 1>to either band, what song would you choose that would

0:44:47.920 --> 0:44:51.120
<v Speaker 1>lead them to listen to a lot more of that

0:44:51.160 --> 0:44:53.640
<v Speaker 1>band and part two of that What song would you

0:44:53.719 --> 0:44:56.959
<v Speaker 1>choose if you were going to play something for someone

0:44:56.960 --> 0:45:00.200
<v Speaker 1>who had never heard Grateful Better Fish and get them

0:45:00.200 --> 0:45:03.319
<v Speaker 1>to never listen to another Grateful Better Fish song. I

0:45:03.360 --> 0:45:07.359
<v Speaker 1>hope you're well and looking forward to it. We've been

0:45:07.360 --> 0:45:09.240
<v Speaker 1>wanting to talk about jam bands for a while. Tests

0:45:09.239 --> 0:45:12.319
<v Speaker 1>and I have a lot of feelings. Well, my my

0:45:12.400 --> 0:45:17.840
<v Speaker 1>first feeling is fuck Fish so much. Uh and uh

0:45:18.000 --> 0:45:23.560
<v Speaker 1>the Grateful Dad are great, Tess. What about you? Do

0:45:23.560 --> 0:45:25.720
<v Speaker 1>you like when someone exhales like that on a podcast?

0:45:25.880 --> 0:45:30.680
<v Speaker 1>Exhales like you were Drake about to tell me your cat,

0:45:30.760 --> 0:45:33.680
<v Speaker 1>exhales like that approaching him because he isn't about to

0:45:33.719 --> 0:45:38.640
<v Speaker 1>attack Disdane. Just so. I got into Fish in high school.

0:45:38.840 --> 0:45:42.520
<v Speaker 1>That's when everyone gets into fish. Um. It's hard to

0:45:42.560 --> 0:45:44.080
<v Speaker 1>know that you don't have a leg to stand on,

0:45:44.320 --> 0:45:47.080
<v Speaker 1>you know what I mean? Like, I can't defend them,

0:45:47.120 --> 0:45:51.600
<v Speaker 1>but I like them. I also love the Grateful Dead. Similarly,

0:45:51.840 --> 0:45:54.760
<v Speaker 1>there are so many I think I talked on Twitter

0:45:54.760 --> 0:45:57.200
<v Speaker 1>about this. So Molly's dad is a really big deadhead.

0:45:57.239 --> 0:46:00.719
<v Speaker 1>Both your parents are deadheads. Yeah, yeah, more you're dead

0:46:01.080 --> 0:46:04.000
<v Speaker 1>Maybe I don't know. Yeah, your dad wouldn't play. My

0:46:04.120 --> 0:46:07.440
<v Speaker 1>uncle is on like a dead radio show. We are

0:46:07.480 --> 0:46:11.080
<v Speaker 1>deadheads in my family. It's not that I reject Fish

0:46:11.160 --> 0:46:14.680
<v Speaker 1>because it's like they're they're newer. It's just because they're bad.

0:46:15.160 --> 0:46:18.040
<v Speaker 1>They are bad, but they're also good. It's one of

0:46:18.080 --> 0:46:20.680
<v Speaker 1>those things in life. Their lyrics make me feel like

0:46:20.760 --> 0:46:23.080
<v Speaker 1>worms are like crawling all over me. They have the

0:46:23.120 --> 0:46:26.120
<v Speaker 1>most embarrassing lyrics of all They're so embarrassing, but you

0:46:26.160 --> 0:46:28.840
<v Speaker 1>can't explain if you're into fish, there's you know, the

0:46:28.960 --> 0:46:32.960
<v Speaker 1>lyrics are embarrassing and you've been through that embarrassment internally

0:46:33.080 --> 0:46:36.280
<v Speaker 1>and processed it and from being like hard to explain

0:46:36.320 --> 0:46:38.480
<v Speaker 1>why like one is good and the other's bad, because

0:46:38.520 --> 0:46:41.239
<v Speaker 1>it's like I understand why they're superficially similar, but it's

0:46:41.280 --> 0:46:44.080
<v Speaker 1>like it's like South Park and Family Guy. You know,

0:46:44.239 --> 0:46:47.360
<v Speaker 1>it's like interesting. It's like no, it's just it's different.

0:46:47.520 --> 0:46:51.080
<v Speaker 1>It's like one, they're good musicians, and like they're bad.

0:46:51.120 --> 0:46:54.600
<v Speaker 1>Singing is good, and Fish, I just even they're good,

0:46:54.600 --> 0:46:56.960
<v Speaker 1>singing is so bad. I found this I was looking

0:46:57.000 --> 0:47:00.920
<v Speaker 1>at like really hot takes on fish, So you have

0:47:01.080 --> 0:47:04.520
<v Speaker 1>to if you haven't already, watched a short video called

0:47:04.640 --> 0:47:07.280
<v Speaker 1>what Fish sounds Like to people who don't like Fish.

0:47:07.840 --> 0:47:11.680
<v Speaker 1>Um Gawka reposted it in and it's just this mash

0:47:11.800 --> 0:47:17.000
<v Speaker 1>up of concert footage with like isolated instruments, snippets and

0:47:17.120 --> 0:47:20.000
<v Speaker 1>vocals that just sounds like if you had like a

0:47:20.040 --> 0:47:23.240
<v Speaker 1>toddler in a room with like a bunch of kitchen stuff.

0:47:24.400 --> 0:47:26.600
<v Speaker 1>To be honest, that is what it sounds like. You

0:47:26.680 --> 0:47:29.920
<v Speaker 1>have to earn the noodling. You can't just like start

0:47:30.239 --> 0:47:33.520
<v Speaker 1>from outer space. You have to like start from earth,

0:47:33.640 --> 0:47:38.040
<v Speaker 1>says who says the jam band decider that is me.

0:47:38.440 --> 0:47:41.319
<v Speaker 1>I mean, I think to answer mixt question about what

0:47:41.480 --> 0:47:44.879
<v Speaker 1>song would you play to make someone be into this

0:47:44.960 --> 0:47:47.560
<v Speaker 1>band and against this band? Like I'm curious what you

0:47:47.600 --> 0:47:51.319
<v Speaker 1>would say grateful. I know you can't name a fish song.

0:47:51.880 --> 0:47:56.720
<v Speaker 1>I can name several fish songs, like what name them? Welcome?

0:47:56.840 --> 0:47:59.680
<v Speaker 1>This is our farmhouse, that's the I think the name

0:47:59.760 --> 0:48:02.520
<v Speaker 1>is armhouse. Right is at an album called farmhouse album

0:48:02.640 --> 0:48:05.600
<v Speaker 1>called owned a fish album? Because I wanted to like

0:48:05.719 --> 0:48:09.320
<v Speaker 1>fit in, uh and I threw it in the trash

0:48:10.280 --> 0:48:13.680
<v Speaker 1>trash did you have lawn boy? I know, I hate

0:48:13.719 --> 0:48:16.560
<v Speaker 1>that you're just like you're looking so disgusted right now.

0:48:16.640 --> 0:48:20.040
<v Speaker 1>It's because again it's like I can't fully articulate why

0:48:20.160 --> 0:48:23.160
<v Speaker 1>like why it's bad and the Grateful Dead are good

0:48:23.160 --> 0:48:25.560
<v Speaker 1>because again it's like it's the same kind of like

0:48:26.000 --> 0:48:30.319
<v Speaker 1>fan culture, I guess. But you know one thing we

0:48:30.360 --> 0:48:35.600
<v Speaker 1>can all agree on is that the Dave Matthews band garbage. No,

0:48:35.680 --> 0:48:37.839
<v Speaker 1>they're good. If they're good, they're they're kind of okay,

0:48:37.840 --> 0:48:40.879
<v Speaker 1>they're Oh my god, you have to go through. It's

0:48:40.920 --> 0:48:44.120
<v Speaker 1>not my wheelhouse. I will say my two favorite flavors

0:48:44.120 --> 0:48:47.160
<v Speaker 1>of Ben and Jerry's are cherry Garcia and fish food.

0:48:47.440 --> 0:48:50.480
<v Speaker 1>There you go. Um, and I really loved the finale

0:48:50.520 --> 0:48:52.319
<v Speaker 1>of Freaking Geeks where she goes on tour with the

0:48:52.360 --> 0:48:55.560
<v Speaker 1>Dead So the being a Deadhead has always been an

0:48:55.560 --> 0:48:58.520
<v Speaker 1>aspiration of mine, But whenever I've started a song, I

0:48:58.640 --> 0:49:01.400
<v Speaker 1>just immediately switched it. It It came not and that's just

0:49:01.440 --> 0:49:04.279
<v Speaker 1>my truth. Well, you're like a more of a club kid.

0:49:04.520 --> 0:49:07.319
<v Speaker 1>I'm like a basic bitch from you know, You're like

0:49:07.400 --> 0:49:09.840
<v Speaker 1>you're you're specifically a club kid, which I feel like

0:49:10.000 --> 0:49:13.000
<v Speaker 1>is like adjacent to being a Deadhead. It's just a

0:49:13.040 --> 0:49:16.239
<v Speaker 1>totally different style of music. But it's still about like

0:49:16.560 --> 0:49:20.480
<v Speaker 1>late night psychedelic Thanks Molly Vibes. It's true. And we

0:49:20.520 --> 0:49:22.240
<v Speaker 1>didn't meet in the club. We met in a club

0:49:22.320 --> 0:49:26.319
<v Speaker 1>back and I are friends from the club from the club. Um. Well,

0:49:26.320 --> 0:49:28.520
<v Speaker 1>that's what I like about it in theory is the

0:49:28.560 --> 0:49:30.840
<v Speaker 1>idea of like everyone's your friend at the dead show,

0:49:31.160 --> 0:49:33.359
<v Speaker 1>and that is what I liked about that Freaxing Geeks

0:49:33.400 --> 0:49:36.080
<v Speaker 1>episode two. I also love that whole thing where the

0:49:36.160 --> 0:49:39.719
<v Speaker 1>hippie girl that becomes Anna and Osi and she's like,

0:49:40.440 --> 0:49:42.680
<v Speaker 1>I wish I'd never heard American Beauty, so I could

0:49:42.719 --> 0:49:45.319
<v Speaker 1>they listen to it for the first time? Yeah, Like

0:49:45.480 --> 0:49:47.960
<v Speaker 1>I've always wanted to be that person. But then it's

0:49:48.000 --> 0:49:49.960
<v Speaker 1>just I'm not you know what I mean? Yeah, I

0:49:49.960 --> 0:49:51.960
<v Speaker 1>mean I like lots of other music, and I don't

0:49:51.960 --> 0:49:54.160
<v Speaker 1>think I could subsist on a diet of like pure

0:49:54.239 --> 0:49:57.160
<v Speaker 1>jam bandary. No. Never, you have to you add it

0:49:57.200 --> 0:49:59.000
<v Speaker 1>in when you're in the mood. It's like a good

0:49:59.080 --> 0:50:03.000
<v Speaker 1>driving like you're having a thoughtful drive. Like my thing

0:50:03.080 --> 0:50:04.920
<v Speaker 1>about Dave Matthews band is I just feel like they

0:50:04.920 --> 0:50:08.320
<v Speaker 1>were like our journey. It's like it was like mandatory

0:50:08.360 --> 0:50:10.680
<v Speaker 1>to like go see them for you know, which is

0:50:10.719 --> 0:50:12.920
<v Speaker 1>why I think also and Ladybird people were so like

0:50:12.960 --> 0:50:15.960
<v Speaker 1>ready for that, because it was like if you grew

0:50:16.040 --> 0:50:18.359
<v Speaker 1>up in California in a certain time period or like

0:50:18.400 --> 0:50:21.280
<v Speaker 1>any kind of like I don't know, any suburban place.

0:50:21.360 --> 0:50:24.800
<v Speaker 1>I guess it was just like that's what everybody liked.

0:50:24.920 --> 0:50:27.839
<v Speaker 1>I mean, it's not that it's not embarrassing to acknowledge

0:50:27.880 --> 0:50:30.879
<v Speaker 1>how many Dave Matthews concerts you went to, which I think,

0:50:30.920 --> 0:50:33.880
<v Speaker 1>like we're talking doubled we went to. We went to

0:50:33.880 --> 0:50:37.239
<v Speaker 1>see some Tim Reynolds solo. Oh my god, I'm just

0:50:37.520 --> 0:50:40.000
<v Speaker 1>outing us as some true damn behead. But then you

0:50:40.040 --> 0:50:42.960
<v Speaker 1>go through the period of extreme self loathing where you're like, no,

0:50:43.120 --> 0:50:45.520
<v Speaker 1>I never did, and then someone finds your case logic

0:50:45.560 --> 0:50:48.400
<v Speaker 1>and the like you did, you didn't if we're going

0:50:48.440 --> 0:50:51.520
<v Speaker 1>to redeem it now, like it's actually like, you know,

0:50:51.719 --> 0:50:55.799
<v Speaker 1>it's a pretty a better band than Fish obviously. Look,

0:50:55.920 --> 0:50:59.000
<v Speaker 1>but with Fish, I mean, there are just times when

0:50:59.000 --> 0:51:01.359
<v Speaker 1>you feel when you have silly moods. That's why you

0:51:01.400 --> 0:51:04.920
<v Speaker 1>can't hate Fish is because they're silly people. You know.

0:51:05.400 --> 0:51:08.719
<v Speaker 1>Jake Kang was making an argument on Twitter the other

0:51:08.800 --> 0:51:11.440
<v Speaker 1>day that Fish age better than Pavement, which I think

0:51:11.480 --> 0:51:15.640
<v Speaker 1>also is what spawned this. Well Pavement, I mean, Stephen Malcolmus.

0:51:15.680 --> 0:51:17.400
<v Speaker 1>We went to a Steven Malcolmus concert and he just

0:51:17.440 --> 0:51:19.880
<v Speaker 1>seemed like so upset to be there, like he was

0:51:19.920 --> 0:51:22.359
<v Speaker 1>such a grump, And I was like, you know, that's

0:51:22.360 --> 0:51:24.640
<v Speaker 1>the thing about a Fish show is it's all about

0:51:24.920 --> 0:51:28.239
<v Speaker 1>just like you know, being in a certain mood, like

0:51:28.280 --> 0:51:34.160
<v Speaker 1>a jelly bones mood, jelly bones dinner in a movie.

0:51:34.320 --> 0:51:35.960
<v Speaker 1>I think, I just want to watch you. I don't

0:51:36.000 --> 0:51:37.880
<v Speaker 1>know anything, but I want to watch you do covers

0:51:37.880 --> 0:51:39.840
<v Speaker 1>of this. I think, Oh, I'd love to cover fish

0:51:40.400 --> 0:51:44.320
<v Speaker 1>my musical talents. I'd like to like build an ideal

0:51:44.440 --> 0:51:47.279
<v Speaker 1>sort of like Lot scenario because I'm a big fan

0:51:47.360 --> 0:51:51.080
<v Speaker 1>of like imaginary commerce of the Grateful Dead Lot universe.

0:51:51.640 --> 0:51:54.920
<v Speaker 1>You know, people make like bootleg shirts. I like all

0:51:54.920 --> 0:51:58.960
<v Speaker 1>the bootlegging. Do you have a favorite a favorite song

0:51:59.160 --> 0:52:02.239
<v Speaker 1>of the Grateful deads? No, Man, you know there's too much.

0:52:03.120 --> 0:52:04.719
<v Speaker 1>I have to say that if I were going to

0:52:04.800 --> 0:52:06.839
<v Speaker 1>make someone not like the Grateful Dead, I would play

0:52:06.880 --> 0:52:09.839
<v Speaker 1>them the version of St. Stephen that was on your

0:52:09.920 --> 0:52:12.439
<v Speaker 1>dad's bootleg where it sounded like they were just like,

0:52:12.840 --> 0:52:17.480
<v Speaker 1>it's like the vocal equivalent of if you're stumbling around

0:52:17.800 --> 0:52:20.320
<v Speaker 1>the dark. Yeah, I should admit that. I like also

0:52:20.440 --> 0:52:22.120
<v Speaker 1>don't have a leg to stand on with some of

0:52:22.160 --> 0:52:24.759
<v Speaker 1>my Fateful Dead fandom, but like because some of my

0:52:24.880 --> 0:52:26.680
<v Speaker 1>arguments were like, yeah, you know, when they funk up,

0:52:26.719 --> 0:52:30.600
<v Speaker 1>the harmony is really bad, really sounds so human. Yeah,

0:52:32.040 --> 0:52:33.920
<v Speaker 1>you know they're not Crosby Steels and Nash they're not

0:52:33.920 --> 0:52:36.440
<v Speaker 1>going to nail it every time, even when they're flying

0:52:36.600 --> 0:52:41.120
<v Speaker 1>high on a unicorn. I'm just saying so funny. I

0:52:41.160 --> 0:52:43.000
<v Speaker 1>love that, you know. It's like cool because we did

0:52:43.000 --> 0:52:45.480
<v Speaker 1>a pot about goths and I was like, I always

0:52:45.480 --> 0:52:47.600
<v Speaker 1>wanted to be a goth, but I'm just like such

0:52:47.640 --> 0:52:50.879
<v Speaker 1>a hippie and like my friend Caitlin and my friend

0:52:50.920 --> 0:52:52.520
<v Speaker 1>from elementary school, she was like, you were kind of

0:52:52.560 --> 0:52:55.319
<v Speaker 1>like Ta Panga from Boy Meets World on like the

0:52:55.400 --> 0:52:58.120
<v Speaker 1>early Boy Meets World, and she was like the girl

0:52:58.200 --> 0:53:00.279
<v Speaker 1>who wore like a big earth T shirt every day

0:53:00.280 --> 0:53:03.439
<v Speaker 1>and before she turned into like business suit, right, yeah,

0:53:03.960 --> 0:53:06.680
<v Speaker 1>she turned into into hot to Panga. Yeah, but you're

0:53:06.680 --> 0:53:09.520
<v Speaker 1>also just Lisa Simpson. Well, we're all Lisa Simpson, and

0:53:11.040 --> 0:53:14.160
<v Speaker 1>it is just like different versions of Lisa Simpson. We're

0:53:14.160 --> 0:53:16.440
<v Speaker 1>all Lisa Simpson. In that episode where they go to

0:53:16.480 --> 0:53:18.480
<v Speaker 1>the beach for the summer and she like wears a

0:53:18.480 --> 0:53:22.239
<v Speaker 1>tight eyed shirt and follows the grateful dad. Every like

0:53:22.640 --> 0:53:26.040
<v Speaker 1>smart girl on every TV show is said to like

0:53:26.160 --> 0:53:28.879
<v Speaker 1>the dead. It's like every smart girl on every TV

0:53:28.960 --> 0:53:32.640
<v Speaker 1>show is like trying to be less neurotic and more

0:53:33.200 --> 0:53:36.120
<v Speaker 1>more loosey goosey, and that's what's good about the jam

0:53:36.160 --> 0:53:38.839
<v Speaker 1>band culture. I mean, the good thing about jam band

0:53:38.840 --> 0:53:41.800
<v Speaker 1>culture too, is that I feel like there's something where

0:53:42.400 --> 0:53:45.839
<v Speaker 1>it has been inaccessible to women at times, you know,

0:53:46.160 --> 0:53:49.560
<v Speaker 1>like almost everything, um, but when you get into fish

0:53:49.640 --> 0:53:51.920
<v Speaker 1>and like you're not doing it as a like, you

0:53:52.000 --> 0:53:55.040
<v Speaker 1>realize how embarrassing it is, but just feels good. I

0:53:55.080 --> 0:54:02.239
<v Speaker 1>think there's something that's very You've made me fish mom. Fish.

0:54:02.440 --> 0:54:04.279
<v Speaker 1>I'm going to call you fish mom from now on.

0:54:04.800 --> 0:54:07.040
<v Speaker 1>As you know what, You're right, there comes a time

0:54:07.080 --> 0:54:09.400
<v Speaker 1>when you should not care what other people think about

0:54:09.400 --> 0:54:12.399
<v Speaker 1>what music you like, and that time is definitely now,

0:54:13.239 --> 0:54:16.560
<v Speaker 1>and uh pro fish mom. Yeah. I feel like that's

0:54:16.600 --> 0:54:20.040
<v Speaker 1>an important moment for everyone to just like own what

0:54:20.160 --> 0:54:22.279
<v Speaker 1>they actually listened to and stop like trying to be cool.

0:54:22.360 --> 0:54:26.080
<v Speaker 1>Like I was listening on some Spotify playlist. It like

0:54:26.320 --> 0:54:28.879
<v Speaker 1>my Girls by Animal Collective came up, and I think

0:54:28.880 --> 0:54:30.560
<v Speaker 1>someone made the joke on Twitter a while ago that

0:54:30.640 --> 0:54:33.120
<v Speaker 1>like my Girls ruined music, and I was listening to

0:54:33.160 --> 0:54:34.600
<v Speaker 1>it and I was like, oh, like, I don't have

0:54:34.680 --> 0:54:36.759
<v Speaker 1>to ever pretend to a dude ever again that I

0:54:36.800 --> 0:54:39.400
<v Speaker 1>like Animal Collective? Do you not like Animal? They're fine?

0:54:39.480 --> 0:54:41.719
<v Speaker 1>But when I was like in high school. I was like,

0:54:41.880 --> 0:54:44.840
<v Speaker 1>I'm like obsessed, but I was literally only listening to

0:54:44.840 --> 0:54:48.040
<v Speaker 1>Snoop talk like but to every dude it was like

0:54:48.080 --> 0:54:50.320
<v Speaker 1>I love the books, but like, no, I didn't you know.

0:54:50.360 --> 0:54:53.960
<v Speaker 1>I'm will collective, a very jam band, possibly a jam band.

0:54:55.080 --> 0:54:57.120
<v Speaker 1>Let us know whether you're thinking I'm all collective or

0:54:57.160 --> 0:54:59.279
<v Speaker 1>a jam band and what it means to be a

0:54:59.360 --> 0:55:03.359
<v Speaker 1>jam band today and a fan of jam bands. Um,

0:55:03.400 --> 0:55:05.440
<v Speaker 1>I feel like post Malone is a little bit like

0:55:05.800 --> 0:55:09.120
<v Speaker 1>inching into jam band just with his general esthetic. You know,

0:55:09.560 --> 0:55:11.480
<v Speaker 1>he looks like a guy that sells T shirts and

0:55:11.520 --> 0:55:14.560
<v Speaker 1>a lot. Wouldn't he just get tattooed on his face? Um,

0:55:14.600 --> 0:55:19.640
<v Speaker 1>always tired? I think that's a very jam band tattoo.

0:55:19.680 --> 0:55:21.440
<v Speaker 1>It was also, this is maybe what made me think

0:55:21.440 --> 0:55:23.240
<v Speaker 1>of jam bands, was that there was a new story

0:55:23.360 --> 0:55:25.120
<v Speaker 1>that a fan of his did a meet and greed

0:55:25.200 --> 0:55:31.000
<v Speaker 1>and passed out from smelling. But yes, I'm a fan

0:55:31.040 --> 0:55:34.960
<v Speaker 1>of his, A fan of his inhaled his musk. Couldn't

0:55:34.960 --> 0:55:39.560
<v Speaker 1>take it, couldn't take it. Um, So that's probably the

0:55:39.560 --> 0:55:45.280
<v Speaker 1>downside to the jam band lifestyles. The smells, the general smells. Um,

0:55:45.480 --> 0:55:48.640
<v Speaker 1>let us know your thoughts on smells at too four.

0:55:48.880 --> 0:55:51.200
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0:55:51.239 --> 0:55:54.839
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0:55:54.840 --> 0:56:01.960
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0:56:25.400 --> 0:56:28.239
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0:56:28.320 --> 0:56:31.919
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0:56:31.960 --> 0:56:37.200
<v Speaker 1>of course. Everybody vapor fat cotton, candy Cloud to some

0:56:37.400 --> 0:56:40.960
<v Speaker 1>sweet sweet jam bands and go watch the ape Ship

0:56:41.040 --> 0:56:44.480
<v Speaker 1>video because it's cool. Yeah. Nice, bye guys, Thanks for

0:56:44.520 --> 0:56:47.040
<v Speaker 1>having me, guys, Thank you so much, Broke. This was awesome.

0:56:47.080 --> 0:56:49.879
<v Speaker 1>It's really fun. Thanks for coming. See you not next week.

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<v Speaker 1>We're taking next week off and we will be back

0:56:52.040 --> 0:56:54.640
<v Speaker 1>the following week. More Night Call Pod. Easy for me

0:56:54.719 --> 0:57:05.759
<v Speaker 1>to say I've been jam banding too much. Past Husbands

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<v Speaker 1>President pussy Ca