1 00:00:05,240 --> 00:00:07,800 Speaker 1: The following. He's a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com 2 00:00:07,840 --> 00:00:19,159 Speaker 1: and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. This he's Talking Cowboys, 3 00:00:19,200 --> 00:00:22,599 Speaker 1: screening live from the Dallas Cowboys World Howards at the 4 00:00:22,640 --> 00:00:34,959 Speaker 1: Star in Friscott. Now, your hosts Mickey Spagnola, Rob Phillips, 5 00:00:35,159 --> 00:00:41,760 Speaker 1: Everson Walls, and Bill Jones. It is a foggy Tuesday 6 00:00:41,840 --> 00:00:44,120 Speaker 1: here at the Star in fris Goes. We're live from 7 00:00:44,159 --> 00:00:49,199 Speaker 1: the s WBC Mortgage Studio, Talking Cowboys. How about that 8 00:00:49,360 --> 00:00:52,840 Speaker 1: Nate Newton joining Talking Cowboys yet again? Are you happy 9 00:00:52,880 --> 00:00:55,279 Speaker 1: to be back? Nate? Yes, I'm happy to be back 10 00:00:55,320 --> 00:00:57,360 Speaker 1: with Mick and two new guys. I'm gonna meet the 11 00:00:57,440 --> 00:01:01,440 Speaker 1: other guy here soon. This is my Harrison across the way. 12 00:01:02,000 --> 00:01:10,000 Speaker 1: That social distances, Oh that's all I got it. Somebody 13 00:01:10,000 --> 00:01:16,600 Speaker 1: bringing up the sanitizer way too close? I mean, I've 14 00:01:16,640 --> 00:01:19,240 Speaker 1: got lights all over. Did you see the news lately? 15 00:01:21,319 --> 00:01:24,520 Speaker 1: Are like twelve feet away from me? They they're barely 16 00:01:24,520 --> 00:01:26,760 Speaker 1: in the picture. Now, I might have to watch the news. 17 00:01:27,200 --> 00:01:33,040 Speaker 1: So our intros dwindling when now we're four would say, 18 00:01:33,080 --> 00:01:36,520 Speaker 1: while we're in here, I'm serious and I don't want 19 00:01:36,560 --> 00:01:40,319 Speaker 1: to get deep into this, but okay, I understand you 20 00:01:40,319 --> 00:01:45,760 Speaker 1: may not want to touch, but this thing is aborne 21 00:01:46,080 --> 00:01:49,320 Speaker 1: as well. It's touching. There's people that's been sitting at home, 22 00:01:50,280 --> 00:01:53,120 Speaker 1: haven't been nowhere for a month, and go out and 23 00:01:53,120 --> 00:01:55,400 Speaker 1: all of a sudden they got something. They go to 24 00:01:55,400 --> 00:01:57,880 Speaker 1: the doctor and they and they have it. And the 25 00:01:57,960 --> 00:02:01,200 Speaker 1: doctor said, where you're being I've been at home, so 26 00:02:01,400 --> 00:02:03,840 Speaker 1: don't tell me. Just touching getting it done. It's the 27 00:02:03,880 --> 00:02:07,720 Speaker 1: whole deal. So it's an app born disease well as 28 00:02:07,760 --> 00:02:11,799 Speaker 1: a touching disease. So you do what you want. But 29 00:02:12,400 --> 00:02:14,440 Speaker 1: I'm in a story yesterday and everybody to talk about 30 00:02:14,440 --> 00:02:16,360 Speaker 1: the virus and ask them I'm asking the same question, 31 00:02:16,400 --> 00:02:19,960 Speaker 1: Well why are we here? Shouldn't we go home? I'm 32 00:02:19,960 --> 00:02:22,800 Speaker 1: through with it. Man who wouldn't have signed and not sign? Yeah? 33 00:02:22,919 --> 00:02:25,079 Speaker 1: I agree, I agree completely. Sports have come to a 34 00:02:25,120 --> 00:02:27,520 Speaker 1: little bit of a standstill, and the fact that we've 35 00:02:27,560 --> 00:02:31,440 Speaker 1: got something to talk about, not just specifically with sports, 36 00:02:31,800 --> 00:02:34,680 Speaker 1: but our Dallas Cowboys have had deals done over the 37 00:02:34,680 --> 00:02:37,720 Speaker 1: past twenty four hours and we've gotten into free eight 38 00:02:37,840 --> 00:02:40,240 Speaker 1: or I guess the legal tampering period. We haven't gotten 39 00:02:40,240 --> 00:02:43,160 Speaker 1: a free agency yet, but plenty to talk about here 40 00:02:43,360 --> 00:02:46,440 Speaker 1: on talking Cowboys. Here this Tuesday, and let's start with 41 00:02:46,480 --> 00:02:51,640 Speaker 1: some of those Cowboys storylines. Dak Prescott tagged franchise tag, 42 00:02:51,720 --> 00:02:55,040 Speaker 1: the exclusive franchise tag, so at least as of now, 43 00:02:55,240 --> 00:02:57,560 Speaker 1: Jerry true to his words, saying We're not gonna allow 44 00:02:57,639 --> 00:03:00,320 Speaker 1: Dak Prescott to test the market even for a single minute. 45 00:03:00,400 --> 00:03:02,840 Speaker 1: We're not gonna not have his rights. Well, they have 46 00:03:02,919 --> 00:03:05,880 Speaker 1: his rights. And now where did the Cowboys go next 47 00:03:05,880 --> 00:03:09,200 Speaker 1: from here? Because early in the process, Dak said that 48 00:03:09,800 --> 00:03:12,720 Speaker 1: Dak's party came out and said that if he were tagged, 49 00:03:13,200 --> 00:03:16,160 Speaker 1: there's a potential for a holdout here. What is next 50 00:03:16,160 --> 00:03:19,520 Speaker 1: for Dak Prescott? Is he going to be resigned? I mean, 51 00:03:19,560 --> 00:03:23,680 Speaker 1: I know the contract deadline is July fifteenth, So Mickey 52 00:03:23,720 --> 00:03:26,960 Speaker 1: will start with you. Yeah, what is today? This is 53 00:03:27,160 --> 00:03:30,320 Speaker 1: March seventeenth. How many months? We have about three or 54 00:03:30,320 --> 00:03:35,160 Speaker 1: four four months? At least five. Yeah, maybe it's up 55 00:03:35,160 --> 00:03:39,120 Speaker 1: to him. Does he want a thirty million dollars signing 56 00:03:39,120 --> 00:03:41,320 Speaker 1: bonus tomorrow or does he want to have to work 57 00:03:42,040 --> 00:03:46,360 Speaker 1: eight seventeen weeks to get thirty one million. I think 58 00:03:46,400 --> 00:03:49,800 Speaker 1: they've made their offer. I don't know how much more 59 00:03:49,880 --> 00:03:53,280 Speaker 1: they can give him, So, yeah, it's up to him. 60 00:03:53,280 --> 00:03:55,280 Speaker 1: Does he want a signing bonus or does he want 61 00:03:55,280 --> 00:03:58,280 Speaker 1: to work like the rest of us and get paid 62 00:03:58,320 --> 00:04:00,160 Speaker 1: by the week. And I think that's going to be 63 00:04:00,200 --> 00:04:03,640 Speaker 1: the bottom line easier than to make thirty one point 64 00:04:03,680 --> 00:04:08,360 Speaker 1: five million at this point for seventeen weeks. Or he 65 00:04:08,440 --> 00:04:12,480 Speaker 1: probably can make that in a signing bonus or more tomorrow. 66 00:04:12,800 --> 00:04:16,040 Speaker 1: So I think it's up to him. I since a 67 00:04:16,040 --> 00:04:19,200 Speaker 1: little frustration. There no no frustration on my part. I'm 68 00:04:19,200 --> 00:04:21,840 Speaker 1: sure there's some frustration on the Cowboys part because if 69 00:04:21,839 --> 00:04:24,279 Speaker 1: they can sign him to a long term deal, he's 70 00:04:24,360 --> 00:04:26,839 Speaker 1: not going to count thirty one million against the salary 71 00:04:26,880 --> 00:04:30,680 Speaker 1: cap this year, which will probably open up about fifteen 72 00:04:30,720 --> 00:04:34,160 Speaker 1: million at least for them to sign other players. So 73 00:04:34,760 --> 00:04:38,479 Speaker 1: I'm sure the frustration is upstairs right now that they 74 00:04:38,520 --> 00:04:41,400 Speaker 1: haven't got a long term deal done with them. Now, 75 00:04:41,400 --> 00:04:43,960 Speaker 1: we've talked about this for weeks, and you know, getting 76 00:04:43,960 --> 00:04:48,200 Speaker 1: the deal done has been foremost. But also the tag 77 00:04:48,279 --> 00:04:50,960 Speaker 1: for the team, like you'll allude to, Mick, is kind 78 00:04:51,000 --> 00:04:54,599 Speaker 1: of a whole process for everybody. That fifteen million dollars 79 00:04:54,640 --> 00:04:56,920 Speaker 1: is very important with getting some of the little guys, 80 00:04:56,920 --> 00:04:59,919 Speaker 1: are the special teamers and people like that signed immediately. 81 00:05:00,200 --> 00:05:03,599 Speaker 1: It's been a lot being talked about with Dak and 82 00:05:03,680 --> 00:05:06,080 Speaker 1: his deal, And I think the one thing that's really 83 00:05:06,120 --> 00:05:08,320 Speaker 1: surprising for me as a fan is the fact that 84 00:05:08,360 --> 00:05:11,039 Speaker 1: we got to this point. You know that why didn't 85 00:05:11,080 --> 00:05:14,119 Speaker 1: this get done sooner? That you know that we didn't 86 00:05:14,120 --> 00:05:16,039 Speaker 1: get to the eleventh hour and we have to deal 87 00:05:16,120 --> 00:05:18,279 Speaker 1: with this. So I don't know who it's on. You know, 88 00:05:18,440 --> 00:05:20,840 Speaker 1: there's a lot of speculation on the years. There's a 89 00:05:20,880 --> 00:05:23,039 Speaker 1: lot of speculation. I don't think on the amount, but 90 00:05:23,120 --> 00:05:25,640 Speaker 1: the years is the biggest part that everyone's trying to 91 00:05:25,680 --> 00:05:29,240 Speaker 1: figure out. Actually, what does Dak want? And you don't know, 92 00:05:30,480 --> 00:05:33,440 Speaker 1: it's never been said, right, you know, money, but you 93 00:05:33,520 --> 00:05:36,120 Speaker 1: know it comes down to money, right, it's pretty simple. 94 00:05:36,400 --> 00:05:39,120 Speaker 1: Let me say this here, you know, And I tried 95 00:05:39,120 --> 00:05:43,600 Speaker 1: to tell everybody, this deal ain't gonna get done. It's 96 00:05:43,600 --> 00:05:47,520 Speaker 1: gonna be a tag here some other guys when I 97 00:05:47,520 --> 00:05:49,800 Speaker 1: have to sign, and it may get done then, but this, 98 00:05:50,320 --> 00:05:52,240 Speaker 1: you know, if he gets done tomorrow, I won't be 99 00:05:52,279 --> 00:05:55,440 Speaker 1: shocked because I know how mister Jerry Jones work. But 100 00:05:55,480 --> 00:05:58,239 Speaker 1: I also got to fit in about Stephen work. So 101 00:05:58,839 --> 00:06:00,680 Speaker 1: you know, I tried to tell everybody leading up to this, 102 00:06:00,760 --> 00:06:05,039 Speaker 1: I say, he's gonna be tagged. I'm one hundred percent sure, 103 00:06:05,200 --> 00:06:09,640 Speaker 1: and he's gonna be tagged again because if if missus 104 00:06:09,680 --> 00:06:12,760 Speaker 1: Stephen Jones is running a negotiation, he got a stopping 105 00:06:12,880 --> 00:06:16,440 Speaker 1: point because he is here to manage the team and 106 00:06:16,520 --> 00:06:18,479 Speaker 1: the rest of and to try to build a team 107 00:06:18,680 --> 00:06:22,240 Speaker 1: within that. So I understand Dak as a player, get 108 00:06:22,279 --> 00:06:24,640 Speaker 1: all you can get. I am with you. I understand 109 00:06:25,400 --> 00:06:27,680 Speaker 1: how you have to build a monst Sarah cap, what 110 00:06:27,760 --> 00:06:30,080 Speaker 1: your values is and trying to have other players on 111 00:06:30,120 --> 00:06:34,240 Speaker 1: the team. So they had an impass, and I understand 112 00:06:34,279 --> 00:06:38,919 Speaker 1: it sounds good. I think this one time, the Joneses 113 00:06:38,960 --> 00:06:42,440 Speaker 1: don't care about that perception of being in the media. 114 00:06:42,680 --> 00:06:44,839 Speaker 1: I think they really want to get it done. And 115 00:06:44,920 --> 00:06:48,440 Speaker 1: I think, like you said, somebody may want a three 116 00:06:48,480 --> 00:06:50,880 Speaker 1: to four, somebody may want to five to six. And 117 00:06:51,000 --> 00:06:55,240 Speaker 1: that is the biggest catch right there. So so you're 118 00:06:55,279 --> 00:06:58,560 Speaker 1: not surprised by no. Man, Nah, He'll tell you. I've 119 00:06:58,560 --> 00:07:02,360 Speaker 1: been telling everybody you know, he gonna get tagged. You know, 120 00:07:02,440 --> 00:07:07,400 Speaker 1: because we laughed six months ago when he said forty million. 121 00:07:08,600 --> 00:07:12,080 Speaker 1: Well guess what, y'all that could that could be kind 122 00:07:12,080 --> 00:07:15,760 Speaker 1: of true, kind of inching that way. So I'm not 123 00:07:16,240 --> 00:07:18,320 Speaker 1: I'm not gonna worry about it because we have Dak 124 00:07:18,400 --> 00:07:22,480 Speaker 1: another year. The only thing that I've said I countinue 125 00:07:22,480 --> 00:07:25,280 Speaker 1: to say is if he don't show up the training 126 00:07:25,320 --> 00:07:28,560 Speaker 1: camp and everybody keeps saying the termino is terminologe is 127 00:07:28,600 --> 00:07:31,720 Speaker 1: gonna change the way they do things, gonna change a 128 00:07:31,720 --> 00:07:36,320 Speaker 1: little bit. And it ain't as easy to get on 129 00:07:36,400 --> 00:07:40,760 Speaker 1: pages that receivers and new guys as people may think 130 00:07:40,760 --> 00:07:44,640 Speaker 1: it is. No, So I just hope he don't miss. 131 00:07:44,800 --> 00:07:47,720 Speaker 1: But if he does miss, I understand, I really do. 132 00:07:47,920 --> 00:07:51,480 Speaker 1: And you know what the dude rules. It's only sixteen practices, Yes, 133 00:07:51,880 --> 00:07:55,480 Speaker 1: went from twenty eight to sixteen, and so what about 134 00:07:55,480 --> 00:07:58,240 Speaker 1: the OTA that's the same. Yeah, and when they may 135 00:07:58,320 --> 00:08:00,760 Speaker 1: not be any I was about to say, that's they're going. 136 00:08:00,880 --> 00:08:04,440 Speaker 1: That's what I'm saying, right program. So if this this 137 00:08:04,520 --> 00:08:09,280 Speaker 1: thing continues the way it has over this last week, Uh, 138 00:08:09,320 --> 00:08:11,480 Speaker 1: he's gonna lose a little bit of his bargating power 139 00:08:11,480 --> 00:08:14,120 Speaker 1: because he's not gonna miss anything because everybody's gonna miss. 140 00:08:14,280 --> 00:08:20,559 Speaker 1: Yeah right, yeah, So to me, I would not want 141 00:08:20,680 --> 00:08:26,040 Speaker 1: to be without a job on Wednesday. Yeah yeah, because 142 00:08:26,440 --> 00:08:29,160 Speaker 1: if somebody's gonna tell me I get thirty million dollars 143 00:08:29,200 --> 00:08:33,160 Speaker 1: today or I don't have a job or a paycheck 144 00:08:33,240 --> 00:08:37,800 Speaker 1: on Wednesday. In this climate, I'm a little worried. But 145 00:08:37,840 --> 00:08:43,560 Speaker 1: the thing is in their world, it's different, you know, 146 00:08:43,679 --> 00:08:47,520 Speaker 1: in the cowboy world, and it is different. They have 147 00:08:47,679 --> 00:08:49,800 Speaker 1: tagged him, so now it's up to Dak to come 148 00:08:49,840 --> 00:08:54,160 Speaker 1: in and sign it. Uh. They But if he doesn't 149 00:08:54,200 --> 00:08:58,760 Speaker 1: sign it, he's unemployed. Yeah, he's he is unemployed. But 150 00:09:00,400 --> 00:09:02,600 Speaker 1: they can't they're gonna let him go either. No, no, 151 00:09:02,679 --> 00:09:04,320 Speaker 1: I know they're not gonna let him go. So I 152 00:09:04,520 --> 00:09:08,520 Speaker 1: understand that it's one thing to be saying he's unemployed. 153 00:09:09,120 --> 00:09:14,040 Speaker 1: If I'm if I'm Mariota, I'm nervous, right because you 154 00:09:14,200 --> 00:09:17,160 Speaker 1: out the scouring the streets. He'd been tagged, so he 155 00:09:17,280 --> 00:09:20,400 Speaker 1: got traded. Yeah, but I'm just saying he's he's still scouring. 156 00:09:20,840 --> 00:09:26,640 Speaker 1: I mean you to be wounded. He's wounded, That's all 157 00:09:26,679 --> 00:09:30,160 Speaker 1: I'm saying. To be warned, versus not being wanted. You know. Well, 158 00:09:30,200 --> 00:09:32,760 Speaker 1: and the Cowboys want him enough to want to keep 159 00:09:32,800 --> 00:09:35,000 Speaker 1: him around for a five year deal. Apparently that's one 160 00:09:35,000 --> 00:09:36,559 Speaker 1: of the big hold ups, is the fact that they 161 00:09:36,600 --> 00:09:39,120 Speaker 1: want to sign Dat Prescott to a five year deal 162 00:09:39,160 --> 00:09:42,000 Speaker 1: that would lead into that ballooning of the salary cap 163 00:09:42,040 --> 00:09:44,600 Speaker 1: that we talked about last week on this show. Of course, 164 00:09:44,600 --> 00:09:47,480 Speaker 1: the new CBA agreement has been agreed upon that came 165 00:09:47,520 --> 00:09:50,840 Speaker 1: down Sunday night. But now with that being said, the 166 00:09:50,880 --> 00:09:53,160 Speaker 1: salary CAP's gonna balloon just how we thought it would. 167 00:09:53,559 --> 00:09:56,240 Speaker 1: Those contracts are gonna start growing up, like you said, Nay, 168 00:09:56,520 --> 00:09:59,320 Speaker 1: it's gonna get up upwards of forty million, forty five 169 00:09:59,360 --> 00:10:02,880 Speaker 1: million by the we get to the next couple of years. 170 00:10:02,920 --> 00:10:05,160 Speaker 1: And some of these other contracts like a Deshaun Watson, 171 00:10:05,200 --> 00:10:07,240 Speaker 1: like a Patrick Mahomes that are going to start finding 172 00:10:07,240 --> 00:10:10,160 Speaker 1: their way into the market, Dak's numbers are going to 173 00:10:10,240 --> 00:10:14,440 Speaker 1: only go up, which is why Dak Prescott's party wants 174 00:10:14,440 --> 00:10:17,719 Speaker 1: not growing up if he doesn't play well, that's that's 175 00:10:17,760 --> 00:10:19,400 Speaker 1: the other part of it that I'm saying that you know, 176 00:10:19,480 --> 00:10:22,760 Speaker 1: OTAs doesn't really worry me to that degree if he doesn't, 177 00:10:22,760 --> 00:10:26,280 Speaker 1: because nobody's delivering a Lombardy in off season, right and so, 178 00:10:26,440 --> 00:10:29,199 Speaker 1: but this definitely helps though. But it does. But at 179 00:10:29,200 --> 00:10:31,200 Speaker 1: the same time, there are guys that miss OTAs for 180 00:10:31,280 --> 00:10:33,720 Speaker 1: injuries and other reasons, you know, So when it comes 181 00:10:33,720 --> 00:10:36,520 Speaker 1: down to training camp and him not showing up for that. Now, 182 00:10:36,559 --> 00:10:39,760 Speaker 1: I think we get into deeper water with that that 183 00:10:39,840 --> 00:10:42,360 Speaker 1: kind of hold out. But he's always been compared in 184 00:10:42,400 --> 00:10:45,520 Speaker 1: this situation to a franchise tag with Kirk Cousins. And 185 00:10:45,840 --> 00:10:48,400 Speaker 1: if you look at what kirkus Cousins has done, the 186 00:10:48,400 --> 00:10:51,000 Speaker 1: amount of money that he's made during the franchise tag, 187 00:10:51,200 --> 00:10:53,080 Speaker 1: and what he's just did by rearing up with the 188 00:10:53,160 --> 00:10:56,160 Speaker 1: Vikings on his deal, you know that's that should be 189 00:10:56,240 --> 00:10:57,839 Speaker 1: a light at the end of the tunnel for someone 190 00:10:57,960 --> 00:10:59,920 Speaker 1: like Dak. Now, obviously we don't want to lose him 191 00:10:59,920 --> 00:11:02,720 Speaker 1: to another franchise, but at the same time, you know 192 00:11:02,800 --> 00:11:05,160 Speaker 1: that a deal is imminent for that. That's how I feel. 193 00:11:06,120 --> 00:11:09,280 Speaker 1: I'll say it again. Are you you guys are talking 194 00:11:09,320 --> 00:11:12,320 Speaker 1: like we're playing football? No, no, no, right, no, no no, 195 00:11:12,679 --> 00:11:14,760 Speaker 1: we don't know that. But am I right? But the 196 00:11:14,840 --> 00:11:19,160 Speaker 1: thing is, and if I got thirty million today, that 197 00:11:19,240 --> 00:11:24,400 Speaker 1: beats thirty possibly thirty million, but you got not playing football? Okay, 198 00:11:24,440 --> 00:11:28,920 Speaker 1: I understand what you're saying, But what if that is 199 00:11:28,920 --> 00:11:32,480 Speaker 1: willing to say? All right, I'll take my chances to 200 00:11:32,600 --> 00:11:36,920 Speaker 1: not being see this kid. And this is what made 201 00:11:36,920 --> 00:11:41,440 Speaker 1: me realize this kid dumped this partner at the beginning 202 00:11:41,520 --> 00:11:44,000 Speaker 1: of this two years ago. Hey, I'm going with c 203 00:11:44,240 --> 00:11:48,800 Speaker 1: A mister Francis and whatever he say, that's what I'm doing. 204 00:11:49,000 --> 00:11:52,080 Speaker 1: So from day one he's told anybody that wants to 205 00:11:52,160 --> 00:11:54,520 Speaker 1: look or even care about it, I'm in it for 206 00:11:54,559 --> 00:11:57,880 Speaker 1: the long haul. He ain't changed, he ain't backed up. 207 00:11:58,080 --> 00:12:02,240 Speaker 1: So now me I'm feeling out missus Steven Jones. He 208 00:12:02,320 --> 00:12:05,320 Speaker 1: ain't backing up. So right now, this kid is good 209 00:12:05,400 --> 00:12:08,960 Speaker 1: with not having him thirty meal. He is good. The 210 00:12:09,080 --> 00:12:12,320 Speaker 1: problem is gonna be is is he gonna be good 211 00:12:12,440 --> 00:12:18,320 Speaker 1: doing training camp? Because eventually football is coming. It's coming, 212 00:12:18,880 --> 00:12:23,360 Speaker 1: we hope. Yeah, it's coming. Eventually it's coming. So if 213 00:12:23,400 --> 00:12:25,920 Speaker 1: not this year, maybe next year. Not. Whether we be 214 00:12:26,000 --> 00:12:30,400 Speaker 1: alive is maybe that's the question. Come back. Yeah, I'm 215 00:12:30,400 --> 00:12:34,280 Speaker 1: just saying I'd rather be alive with million in my pocket. 216 00:12:34,320 --> 00:12:36,840 Speaker 1: They're not working. But the thing about it is, you 217 00:12:36,880 --> 00:12:39,959 Speaker 1: think they're gonna not, they're gonna not. Uh, the thirty 218 00:12:39,960 --> 00:12:42,640 Speaker 1: million gonna go away. It's not gonna go It's not 219 00:12:42,679 --> 00:12:46,560 Speaker 1: going away. It's not gonna He's not this kid. If 220 00:12:46,600 --> 00:12:48,400 Speaker 1: you don't know one thing about it, this kid is 221 00:12:48,440 --> 00:12:51,560 Speaker 1: not panicking. So the thirty million that we may be 222 00:12:51,679 --> 00:12:56,920 Speaker 1: worried about. He's letting you know, Nah, you know what 223 00:12:57,000 --> 00:12:59,440 Speaker 1: at all? Yeah, he's just letting you know. All right, 224 00:13:00,160 --> 00:13:03,480 Speaker 1: you bet on this coronavirus going away? No, no, no, no. 225 00:13:03,960 --> 00:13:08,640 Speaker 1: If it stays, okay, nobody get paid. He doesn't get paid. 226 00:13:08,760 --> 00:13:11,480 Speaker 1: But if he gets paid tomorrow with a thirty million 227 00:13:11,520 --> 00:13:14,720 Speaker 1: dollars signing bonus, it's his that maybe not that may 228 00:13:14,760 --> 00:13:18,199 Speaker 1: be his thing. Well, you got you got see, he's 229 00:13:18,240 --> 00:13:21,280 Speaker 1: got a better constitution than me, a lot of people. 230 00:13:22,040 --> 00:13:26,480 Speaker 1: But the thing is, we're not him. You got the 231 00:13:26,520 --> 00:13:29,800 Speaker 1: principles you're gonna stand on, Mick regardless. You got them 232 00:13:29,840 --> 00:13:32,079 Speaker 1: saying principles. We don't know what it is that you 233 00:13:32,240 --> 00:13:35,520 Speaker 1: stand on. But he's standing on his principles. Seat Now 234 00:13:35,640 --> 00:13:37,920 Speaker 1: the other thing, and Heckmu's got a good point on 235 00:13:37,960 --> 00:13:41,640 Speaker 1: the four for years, five years. But what everybody's missing 236 00:13:41,840 --> 00:13:44,800 Speaker 1: is when Goff and Once did their four year extension, 237 00:13:44,920 --> 00:13:48,320 Speaker 1: they still had another year, so they had five years 238 00:13:48,320 --> 00:13:50,960 Speaker 1: of control under him, and they were able to take 239 00:13:51,000 --> 00:13:53,960 Speaker 1: the signing bonus in pro rated over five years, not 240 00:13:54,160 --> 00:13:57,160 Speaker 1: four years. So to me, if you want four years, 241 00:13:57,160 --> 00:13:59,880 Speaker 1: then you get less signing bonus, because now I can't 242 00:13:59,840 --> 00:14:02,839 Speaker 1: spread it out as many as much as I could 243 00:14:02,920 --> 00:14:07,319 Speaker 1: over five years. And I'm sure that's what they're thinking upstairs, Okay, 244 00:14:07,520 --> 00:14:10,120 Speaker 1: and they have a right to think that. But that 245 00:14:10,400 --> 00:14:13,760 Speaker 1: mayda and these people maybe thinking something else. So it's 246 00:14:13,800 --> 00:14:17,680 Speaker 1: still gonna come down to if that want to relent. 247 00:14:18,800 --> 00:14:22,800 Speaker 1: The Dudy Jones just want to relent. Uh. We keep 248 00:14:22,840 --> 00:14:27,680 Speaker 1: acting like, uh, this kid is uh not have a 249 00:14:27,920 --> 00:14:30,440 Speaker 1: come a sense of what he's doing. He has, you know, 250 00:14:30,800 --> 00:14:33,360 Speaker 1: you can. You can think what you want about his 251 00:14:33,600 --> 00:14:36,240 Speaker 1: about the money that he's negotiating for usself. You can 252 00:14:36,280 --> 00:14:39,520 Speaker 1: think what you want. But this kid did not go 253 00:14:39,640 --> 00:14:42,440 Speaker 1: from day one not knowing that this would be a 254 00:14:42,520 --> 00:14:46,040 Speaker 1: possibility that this may come. Now, nobody didn't know about 255 00:14:46,040 --> 00:14:48,880 Speaker 1: the coronavirus. I say, nobody was thinking about this. And 256 00:14:49,960 --> 00:14:52,640 Speaker 1: now with this all being said, there are other contracts 257 00:14:52,640 --> 00:14:56,040 Speaker 1: at hand for the Cowboys in general. You've got Amari Cooper, 258 00:14:56,360 --> 00:14:58,480 Speaker 1: he's back. You've got We'll talk about that in depth 259 00:14:58,520 --> 00:15:01,600 Speaker 1: a little bit later. Byron Jones is walking breaking news 260 00:15:01,600 --> 00:15:04,480 Speaker 1: though from Ian Rapp report. As of four minutes ago, 261 00:15:05,040 --> 00:15:07,800 Speaker 1: the Bears are signing pass rusher Robert Quinn to a 262 00:15:07,840 --> 00:15:12,120 Speaker 1: five year, seventy million dollars contract thirty million fully guaranteed, 263 00:15:13,200 --> 00:15:16,880 Speaker 1: as Robert Quinn is no longer a Dallas Cowboy, at 264 00:15:16,920 --> 00:15:19,080 Speaker 1: least at the moment. Nobody's signed on the dotted line yet. 265 00:15:19,120 --> 00:15:23,000 Speaker 1: Wednesday is the official start of free agency, but Robert 266 00:15:23,080 --> 00:15:26,560 Speaker 1: Quinn agreeing to terms with the Chicago Bears. So you 267 00:15:26,680 --> 00:15:30,440 Speaker 1: lose Byron Jones, and you turn around and you lose 268 00:15:31,160 --> 00:15:34,440 Speaker 1: Robert Quinn. By the way, the deal four and randall 269 00:15:34,480 --> 00:15:37,960 Speaker 1: cop but Byron Jones's deal one of the highest paid 270 00:15:38,000 --> 00:15:41,920 Speaker 1: cornerback now in the NFL. Five years eighty two and 271 00:15:41,960 --> 00:15:45,480 Speaker 1: a half million dollars with the Dolphins. That means fifty 272 00:15:45,480 --> 00:15:49,280 Speaker 1: seven million guaranteed, forty million in the first two years 273 00:15:49,360 --> 00:15:52,760 Speaker 1: of that contract. And that brings me to the question. Now, 274 00:15:53,000 --> 00:15:54,920 Speaker 1: I was originally going to ask, how big of a 275 00:15:54,960 --> 00:15:58,200 Speaker 1: hole is it to fill for Byron Jones leaving. We've 276 00:15:58,240 --> 00:15:59,680 Speaker 1: talked about it over the last couple of weeks, But 277 00:15:59,720 --> 00:16:01,760 Speaker 1: now that it's finally here, how big of a hole 278 00:16:01,840 --> 00:16:03,960 Speaker 1: is it? And then I'm going to add on, now 279 00:16:03,960 --> 00:16:06,080 Speaker 1: we've got to fill a Robert Quinn sized hole on 280 00:16:06,120 --> 00:16:09,600 Speaker 1: that defensive line as well, and that's why having to 281 00:16:09,720 --> 00:16:14,600 Speaker 1: pay the tag hurts. The Cowboys. It doesn't hurt him 282 00:16:15,000 --> 00:16:17,600 Speaker 1: from money. Jerry's got the money to pay him, right. 283 00:16:18,280 --> 00:16:20,160 Speaker 1: But I'll say it again, if you signed him to 284 00:16:20,200 --> 00:16:22,840 Speaker 1: a long term deal, you would have saved against the 285 00:16:22,880 --> 00:16:26,640 Speaker 1: cap this year, which is important, fourteen, fourteen or fifteen 286 00:16:26,680 --> 00:16:30,040 Speaker 1: million dollars. So you could have signed Robert Quinn to 287 00:16:30,240 --> 00:16:33,520 Speaker 1: something that if he costs fourteen or fifteen million dollars 288 00:16:33,560 --> 00:16:36,240 Speaker 1: against a cap and see. And that's what Houston did. 289 00:16:36,600 --> 00:16:41,040 Speaker 1: On Byron Jones's contract. They gave him big base salaries 290 00:16:41,200 --> 00:16:44,520 Speaker 1: in the first Miami, I'm sorry, gave him big base 291 00:16:44,600 --> 00:16:46,680 Speaker 1: salaries in the first two years of the contract. He 292 00:16:46,720 --> 00:16:49,840 Speaker 1: only got a fifteen million dollars signing bonus over five years, 293 00:16:50,160 --> 00:16:52,720 Speaker 1: so you pro rate that it's just three million. But 294 00:16:52,800 --> 00:16:57,840 Speaker 1: they gave him base salaries in those first years that 295 00:16:58,400 --> 00:17:02,880 Speaker 1: were eleven million and then fourteen million guaranteed, so that's 296 00:17:02,920 --> 00:17:06,720 Speaker 1: twenty five million guaranteed plus fifteen million. He got forty 297 00:17:06,760 --> 00:17:10,199 Speaker 1: million guaranteed basically in the first two years. So what 298 00:17:10,240 --> 00:17:13,280 Speaker 1: they did is the cap number. They got it high 299 00:17:13,640 --> 00:17:16,880 Speaker 1: because they knew that the Cowboys couldn't give them that 300 00:17:17,000 --> 00:17:19,800 Speaker 1: much in those first two years, so they were pretty smart. 301 00:17:20,080 --> 00:17:23,879 Speaker 1: Miami on how they how they structured the contract. And 302 00:17:23,960 --> 00:17:27,400 Speaker 1: now the same thing with Robert Quinn. It'll be interesting 303 00:17:27,400 --> 00:17:30,919 Speaker 1: to see how the contract was structured Bears. Yeah, with 304 00:17:31,000 --> 00:17:33,719 Speaker 1: the Bears, that's an unbelievable amount of money. Though, I 305 00:17:33,800 --> 00:17:36,880 Speaker 1: was thinking, so he made made He made seven point 306 00:17:37,000 --> 00:17:39,159 Speaker 1: nine million with the Cowboys last year on a one 307 00:17:39,240 --> 00:17:41,840 Speaker 1: year deal. Kind of approven. So I figured ten to 308 00:17:41,920 --> 00:17:44,680 Speaker 1: twelve million a year over three years. That's what we 309 00:17:44,760 --> 00:17:47,360 Speaker 1: said would have been would have been reasonable. So now 310 00:17:47,359 --> 00:17:50,480 Speaker 1: what did they five years? Seventy million? So he's going 311 00:17:50,560 --> 00:17:55,840 Speaker 1: to be four years. See, you got to see how 312 00:17:55,880 --> 00:17:59,199 Speaker 1: the thing structured, because it could be it's good for 313 00:17:59,240 --> 00:18:01,840 Speaker 1: two years and then you're out and you don't have 314 00:18:01,920 --> 00:18:05,760 Speaker 1: to pay anything after that. It's not guaranteed. So the 315 00:18:05,800 --> 00:18:12,240 Speaker 1: interesting to see the structure. First of all, See he 316 00:18:12,359 --> 00:18:17,240 Speaker 1: hits you with one. Then first of all, I don't 317 00:18:17,359 --> 00:18:23,320 Speaker 1: value like the Cowboys. I hope you used to value. Uh. 318 00:18:24,960 --> 00:18:30,199 Speaker 1: I can stand losing Robert Quinn if in return we 319 00:18:30,240 --> 00:18:34,200 Speaker 1: can get Snacks Harrison there it is okay. See See, 320 00:18:34,320 --> 00:18:39,359 Speaker 1: one day somebody gonna realize that a one technique in 321 00:18:39,480 --> 00:18:44,080 Speaker 1: a safety does count in this league. Yeah, but not 322 00:18:44,200 --> 00:18:47,960 Speaker 1: more than the defensive end. And what allows most defensive 323 00:18:48,080 --> 00:18:50,360 Speaker 1: ends to make the plays that they make pass rush 324 00:18:50,520 --> 00:18:55,680 Speaker 1: up front if you if you have a dog that 325 00:18:55,720 --> 00:18:59,200 Speaker 1: can push that thing where that quarterback cannot see most 326 00:19:00,760 --> 00:19:03,280 Speaker 1: Tony Wise has always taught us. He say yes, he 327 00:19:03,359 --> 00:19:05,359 Speaker 1: say Mark two. It is gonna make all the money. 328 00:19:05,560 --> 00:19:08,480 Speaker 1: And Eric Williams gonna make all the money. Our two tackles, 329 00:19:09,320 --> 00:19:13,480 Speaker 1: he said a step, Nate and Golden. Don't y'all want 330 00:19:13,520 --> 00:19:16,480 Speaker 1: for one minute thing that if we can keep our 331 00:19:16,520 --> 00:19:21,200 Speaker 1: pocket clean up front and have minimal penetration, that gives 332 00:19:21,200 --> 00:19:23,679 Speaker 1: our tackles a chance to run these great defensi events 333 00:19:23,680 --> 00:19:28,439 Speaker 1: around the corner. And so if we don't get a 334 00:19:28,480 --> 00:19:32,040 Speaker 1: dog to push them people, we'll have to eat law 335 00:19:32,560 --> 00:19:35,600 Speaker 1: getting doubleteamed again. We'll have a guy overhill on the 336 00:19:35,720 --> 00:19:38,000 Speaker 1: on the other side have with ten sacks and it 337 00:19:38,040 --> 00:19:41,320 Speaker 1: won't be worth that. You got to have them dogs 338 00:19:41,600 --> 00:19:44,320 Speaker 1: in the front to push that thing. So these so 339 00:19:45,200 --> 00:19:47,240 Speaker 1: did they have a two way and goal? Our diviens 340 00:19:47,240 --> 00:19:51,560 Speaker 1: events canna have a two way goal. And so you 341 00:19:51,680 --> 00:19:54,919 Speaker 1: got to get a snack's heron or somebody of that ilk. 342 00:19:55,119 --> 00:19:57,680 Speaker 1: Okay we lost there on Robert Clear, but you got 343 00:19:57,680 --> 00:19:59,920 Speaker 1: to get a dog up front to put that prey, 344 00:20:00,640 --> 00:20:03,639 Speaker 1: because even if we were signing Robert Quinn, and my 345 00:20:03,680 --> 00:20:06,480 Speaker 1: biggest concerned gonna be you got to have that dog, 346 00:20:06,960 --> 00:20:09,080 Speaker 1: how do you cover the middle and the biggest thing. 347 00:20:09,119 --> 00:20:11,200 Speaker 1: Just to answer your question, Kyle is, I mean it 348 00:20:11,359 --> 00:20:14,679 Speaker 1: left a meteoric hold seemingly right now in the defense 349 00:20:14,720 --> 00:20:18,920 Speaker 1: with losing Quinn and also Byron Jones. But to your point, 350 00:20:19,240 --> 00:20:22,640 Speaker 1: and also looking at the new philosophy of the Joneses. 351 00:20:22,800 --> 00:20:25,840 Speaker 1: With twenty seven million dollars in cap space, dead money 352 00:20:25,840 --> 00:20:28,359 Speaker 1: sitting on the cap last year, they didn't want to 353 00:20:28,400 --> 00:20:30,040 Speaker 1: sign any of these guys, and it was for a 354 00:20:30,080 --> 00:20:33,000 Speaker 1: reason why Robert Quinn had to prove a deal that 355 00:20:33,119 --> 00:20:36,280 Speaker 1: production walks. But you have to know that they they're 356 00:20:36,320 --> 00:20:39,040 Speaker 1: looking at going into the draft free agency to get 357 00:20:39,080 --> 00:20:41,960 Speaker 1: some guys. Look, they couldn't have imagined that Robert Quinn 358 00:20:42,000 --> 00:20:44,680 Speaker 1: wouldn't have gotten the would have gotten covered it the 359 00:20:44,720 --> 00:20:47,200 Speaker 1: way that he did in free agency. But everyone knew 360 00:20:47,240 --> 00:20:50,639 Speaker 1: that Byron Jones was gonna get a bigger contract than 361 00:20:50,640 --> 00:20:53,040 Speaker 1: what the Cowboys were willing to offer. But I agree 362 00:20:53,080 --> 00:20:54,960 Speaker 1: with you, Nate when you say you gotta get a 363 00:20:54,960 --> 00:20:57,639 Speaker 1: guy that pushes the pocket. So that you can give 364 00:20:58,480 --> 00:21:01,960 Speaker 1: guys like DeMarcus Lawrence the opportunity because he's right now 365 00:21:02,000 --> 00:21:05,360 Speaker 1: he's long arranging with no Tonto ban. Yeah. Yeah, and see, 366 00:21:06,240 --> 00:21:08,440 Speaker 1: you know, I'm not big gonna say, hey, watch the film, 367 00:21:08,480 --> 00:21:11,480 Speaker 1: because you can make the film in miktop of the 368 00:21:11,480 --> 00:21:12,960 Speaker 1: all the time. You can make the film, say what 369 00:21:13,000 --> 00:21:18,280 Speaker 1: you want. But I'm talking about basic football, right and 370 00:21:18,280 --> 00:21:22,480 Speaker 1: and you you can have these two great defensive ends 371 00:21:22,520 --> 00:21:25,440 Speaker 1: like Denver had for two or three years. But when 372 00:21:25,480 --> 00:21:27,800 Speaker 1: they was the most effective, they had a horse in 373 00:21:27,840 --> 00:21:31,400 Speaker 1: the middle. You look at how even the Kansas City 374 00:21:31,480 --> 00:21:34,879 Speaker 1: Chiefs as the season went on, they banked everything on 375 00:21:35,080 --> 00:21:39,560 Speaker 1: two players that stayed safe in that middle. And Chris Jones, 376 00:21:39,840 --> 00:21:43,600 Speaker 1: the big defensive tackle. Yeah, when you got a beast 377 00:21:43,640 --> 00:21:45,360 Speaker 1: in the middle and act the forty nine ers look 378 00:21:45,359 --> 00:21:47,479 Speaker 1: at him. When you got a beast in the middle 379 00:21:48,040 --> 00:21:52,560 Speaker 1: that commands that you can't turn your protections boom. So 380 00:21:52,600 --> 00:21:54,680 Speaker 1: I'm not saying Robert Quinn is not a loss. Yes, 381 00:21:54,800 --> 00:21:59,480 Speaker 1: Robert Quinn is a loss. But you have to start 382 00:22:00,040 --> 00:22:04,160 Speaker 1: value what's there and what you need to do. So, yes, 383 00:22:04,320 --> 00:22:06,440 Speaker 1: Robert Quinn is a loss. To answer you a question, 384 00:22:06,440 --> 00:22:08,880 Speaker 1: he's a loss. Yeah, not to me, not as big 385 00:22:08,920 --> 00:22:10,760 Speaker 1: as most people think. Well, and a lot of the 386 00:22:10,800 --> 00:22:14,240 Speaker 1: conversation that we have leading into this week and knowing 387 00:22:14,280 --> 00:22:17,520 Speaker 1: that free agency was upon us, was how are the 388 00:22:17,560 --> 00:22:20,440 Speaker 1: Cowboys going to afford to keep some of these pieces? 389 00:22:20,480 --> 00:22:23,280 Speaker 1: And out of the thirty nine contracts that have been 390 00:22:23,280 --> 00:22:25,600 Speaker 1: signed over the last twenty four or not signed but 391 00:22:25,680 --> 00:22:28,399 Speaker 1: agreed upon over the last twenty four hours, the top 392 00:22:28,520 --> 00:22:32,159 Speaker 1: two in terms of monetary value have been from Dallas 393 00:22:32,160 --> 00:22:34,879 Speaker 1: Byron Jones Robert Quinn over at the top of the list, 394 00:22:34,960 --> 00:22:38,520 Speaker 1: both five years, both upwards of seventy million dollars. No 395 00:22:38,680 --> 00:22:41,680 Speaker 1: other contract has been even close to that. The next 396 00:22:41,680 --> 00:22:44,720 Speaker 1: biggest one was four years fifty one million for Kyle 397 00:22:44,800 --> 00:22:47,640 Speaker 1: van Noy whenever he went from New England to Miami. 398 00:22:47,760 --> 00:22:50,440 Speaker 1: So it was gonna be tough to keep those contracts in. 399 00:22:50,600 --> 00:22:53,400 Speaker 1: Tom Brady hasn't signed yet exactly. There's a lot going 400 00:22:53,440 --> 00:22:55,000 Speaker 1: on though, and that's what I'm kind of getting too. 401 00:22:55,000 --> 00:22:56,800 Speaker 1: We're gonna take a quick break when we come back, 402 00:22:56,800 --> 00:22:59,159 Speaker 1: We're gonna talk about Amari Cooper. He'll be back with 403 00:22:59,200 --> 00:23:01,600 Speaker 1: the Cowboys, and then where else do the Cowboys go 404 00:23:01,720 --> 00:23:04,040 Speaker 1: from here? 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Nate Newton, 446 00:25:23,560 --> 00:25:26,040 Speaker 1: heck Ma Harrison, Mickey's Bag, Nolah, Kyle Yeoman's here with 447 00:25:26,160 --> 00:25:31,359 Speaker 1: talking Cowboys, and well, we mentioned Byron is gone. We 448 00:25:31,440 --> 00:25:34,320 Speaker 1: mentioned that now Robert Quinn has taken a contract, he'll 449 00:25:34,359 --> 00:25:37,639 Speaker 1: be up in Chicago with the Bears. But we do 450 00:25:37,760 --> 00:25:41,320 Speaker 1: have one player returning, and that's Amari Cooper. As he 451 00:25:41,480 --> 00:25:44,560 Speaker 1: was agreed to terms yesterday five years, one hundred million 452 00:25:44,600 --> 00:25:48,200 Speaker 1: dollars contracts, sticking true to his word because a couple 453 00:25:48,680 --> 00:25:51,560 Speaker 1: couple weeks earlier, about a week ago, ended up saying, 454 00:25:51,600 --> 00:25:54,000 Speaker 1: I want to be a Dallas cowboy. I understand the 455 00:25:54,080 --> 00:25:56,720 Speaker 1: value of being a Dallas cowboy. I'm having the star 456 00:25:56,760 --> 00:25:59,080 Speaker 1: on the side of the helmet. He was offered big money, 457 00:25:59,119 --> 00:26:03,919 Speaker 1: apparently reportedly were the Redskins out of Washington had offered 458 00:26:04,000 --> 00:26:06,800 Speaker 1: him at least five year, one hundred and twenty million. 459 00:26:07,040 --> 00:26:10,479 Speaker 1: He decides to stay in Dallas. Five years, one hundred 460 00:26:10,640 --> 00:26:15,000 Speaker 1: million was the contract that Cooper and his party agreed 461 00:26:15,040 --> 00:26:17,680 Speaker 1: upon in order to keep him in Dallas. So with 462 00:26:17,760 --> 00:26:21,000 Speaker 1: that being said, he has more money going his way 463 00:26:21,040 --> 00:26:23,600 Speaker 1: than both Byron Jones and Robert Quinn each had in 464 00:26:23,720 --> 00:26:27,160 Speaker 1: their deal. There were four top free agents at their 465 00:26:27,200 --> 00:26:30,239 Speaker 1: position right now, it seems like half of those are 466 00:26:30,240 --> 00:26:32,040 Speaker 1: going to stay in Dallas. So Mick, how does that 467 00:26:32,200 --> 00:26:35,679 Speaker 1: shake now? Cooper's yea, yeah, well I haven't seen the 468 00:26:35,960 --> 00:26:40,160 Speaker 1: inside of it. You know, he's got sixty million guaranteed. 469 00:26:40,200 --> 00:26:42,920 Speaker 1: But you got to see where the guarantees run out, 470 00:26:43,840 --> 00:26:46,359 Speaker 1: because you know, I heard somebody talk about, well the 471 00:26:46,359 --> 00:26:49,280 Speaker 1: Cowboys just spent fifty million against their salary cap. Well, 472 00:26:49,560 --> 00:26:53,280 Speaker 1: he's not going to count twenty million this year. It 473 00:26:53,400 --> 00:26:56,239 Speaker 1: won't because of the new CBA, they didn't have to 474 00:26:56,240 --> 00:27:00,080 Speaker 1: follow that thirty percent rule on increased salaries. So so 475 00:27:00,119 --> 00:27:02,480 Speaker 1: it's a team friendly deal. So he can get for 476 00:27:02,600 --> 00:27:05,080 Speaker 1: the first year. I mean, he could count I don't know, 477 00:27:05,240 --> 00:27:10,359 Speaker 1: ten million, depending on you know, the signing bonus was 478 00:27:10,480 --> 00:27:13,560 Speaker 1: sixty million, So he divides sixty million by five, you 479 00:27:13,600 --> 00:27:18,320 Speaker 1: get what eleven twelve million per year, So it's going 480 00:27:18,400 --> 00:27:20,879 Speaker 1: to count at least twelve plus a base salary. They 481 00:27:20,880 --> 00:27:23,280 Speaker 1: can give him a three million dollars base salary. He 482 00:27:23,320 --> 00:27:25,919 Speaker 1: gets fifteen million this year, and then next year the 483 00:27:25,960 --> 00:27:29,480 Speaker 1: base salary will go up, so it matters how it's structured. 484 00:27:30,680 --> 00:27:33,440 Speaker 1: So yeah, I mean that's a good deal for him. 485 00:27:33,720 --> 00:27:36,800 Speaker 1: I think Julio Jones and is the only one that 486 00:27:36,880 --> 00:27:40,480 Speaker 1: has made more. But when he signed his he signed 487 00:27:40,480 --> 00:27:42,920 Speaker 1: an extension and he had two more years left on 488 00:27:43,080 --> 00:27:45,440 Speaker 1: this previous contract, and that makes the difference. You talk 489 00:27:45,480 --> 00:27:48,000 Speaker 1: about that a lot of guys having deals having years 490 00:27:48,000 --> 00:27:50,359 Speaker 1: still left on the deal and that money being layered. 491 00:27:50,359 --> 00:27:52,600 Speaker 1: So that's important. But I wanted to ask you as 492 00:27:52,640 --> 00:27:55,320 Speaker 1: well about most of the time when there's a midseason 493 00:27:55,359 --> 00:27:57,280 Speaker 1: trade made like that, you know that a guy has 494 00:27:57,320 --> 00:27:59,679 Speaker 1: a couple of years left on his contract, isn't it 495 00:27:59,800 --> 00:28:02,639 Speaker 1: more were advantageous for the organization that's signing him to 496 00:28:02,640 --> 00:28:05,000 Speaker 1: get him a new deal done because at this point 497 00:28:05,040 --> 00:28:07,080 Speaker 1: when he comes in, if you can, if you can, 498 00:28:07,200 --> 00:28:10,200 Speaker 1: But obviously it puts the leverage back and hit on 499 00:28:10,359 --> 00:28:12,800 Speaker 1: him at that point, because again it was more of 500 00:28:12,840 --> 00:28:16,360 Speaker 1: a let's see how your your your chemistry is. With 501 00:28:16,480 --> 00:28:18,679 Speaker 1: Dak we gave up a number one, but again that 502 00:28:18,840 --> 00:28:21,280 Speaker 1: leverage was getting off to a Mark Cooper and his 503 00:28:21,359 --> 00:28:24,520 Speaker 1: repence and his agents once we didn't sign him when 504 00:28:24,560 --> 00:28:28,439 Speaker 1: he came in, No, absolutely, and you know it, and 505 00:28:28,520 --> 00:28:33,480 Speaker 1: it's always they didn't sign him. He didn't sign either him, right, 506 00:28:33,600 --> 00:28:36,959 Speaker 1: So it's a two way street, you know, take your 507 00:28:36,960 --> 00:28:39,000 Speaker 1: back to dak. We don't know what he's asking for, 508 00:28:39,600 --> 00:28:44,959 Speaker 1: you know, because if they they've obviously made a player 509 00:28:45,080 --> 00:28:48,160 Speaker 1: friendly tag, right, because they could have tagged him for 510 00:28:48,240 --> 00:28:51,080 Speaker 1: twenty six million instead of thirty one. Yeah, and then 511 00:28:51,120 --> 00:28:53,840 Speaker 1: he would have had a right to offer to negotiate 512 00:28:53,920 --> 00:28:56,280 Speaker 1: with somebody and the Cowboys would have gotten two first 513 00:28:56,320 --> 00:28:59,360 Speaker 1: round picks back. So but they went ahead and gave 514 00:28:59,440 --> 00:29:03,360 Speaker 1: him the exclusive franchise tag, which was five million dollars more. 515 00:29:03,640 --> 00:29:06,960 Speaker 1: And they're probably figuring, okay, well, this is probably aware 516 00:29:07,280 --> 00:29:10,120 Speaker 1: he's gonna make per year. Let's just go ahead and 517 00:29:10,120 --> 00:29:12,240 Speaker 1: give him that. So it was almost to me with 518 00:29:12,360 --> 00:29:14,720 Speaker 1: like doing him a little bit of a favor. That's 519 00:29:14,720 --> 00:29:19,360 Speaker 1: a five million dollars I mean it's only five right, Yeah, 520 00:29:21,280 --> 00:29:24,440 Speaker 1: so's the difference between signing a long term deal and 521 00:29:24,480 --> 00:29:26,479 Speaker 1: being tagged. Though at the moment or so, it seems 522 00:29:26,520 --> 00:29:30,160 Speaker 1: like to give you guys an example, like they resigned 523 00:29:30,320 --> 00:29:33,720 Speaker 1: Blake Jarwin. He was a restricted free agent, so the 524 00:29:33,760 --> 00:29:39,479 Speaker 1: restricted second round a tender was worth three point two million, 525 00:29:39,800 --> 00:29:43,040 Speaker 1: all right, So the way they structured his contract it's 526 00:29:43,360 --> 00:29:45,840 Speaker 1: four years twenty four point five, so everybody's like, well, 527 00:29:45,880 --> 00:29:48,240 Speaker 1: he's gonna make six million a year. Well, his cap 528 00:29:48,360 --> 00:29:50,520 Speaker 1: number for the first year is going to be three 529 00:29:50,560 --> 00:29:53,560 Speaker 1: point two five million. So that shows you that when 530 00:29:53,560 --> 00:29:56,920 Speaker 1: you give guys some money, you can reduce the base salary. 531 00:29:56,960 --> 00:29:59,600 Speaker 1: And that's what he would have made. And his guarantees 532 00:29:59,680 --> 00:30:03,240 Speaker 1: run out after two years, so there's eleven million dollars 533 00:30:03,240 --> 00:30:07,280 Speaker 1: of non guarantee in that twenty four million. So again 534 00:30:07,440 --> 00:30:10,080 Speaker 1: you got to see the structures before you get carried 535 00:30:10,120 --> 00:30:12,920 Speaker 1: away with well, he's going to average this many million 536 00:30:12,960 --> 00:30:17,120 Speaker 1: a year if you fulfill the entire contract, meaning you 537 00:30:17,280 --> 00:30:19,920 Speaker 1: better be worth it. It's not like baseball where everything's 538 00:30:19,960 --> 00:30:23,560 Speaker 1: fully guaranteed and it's averaged over a year. And that's 539 00:30:23,560 --> 00:30:28,280 Speaker 1: what and that's what makes me realize each guy knows 540 00:30:28,560 --> 00:30:31,800 Speaker 1: in his mind what he wants to do. That's why 541 00:30:32,000 --> 00:30:35,160 Speaker 1: Mary did what he wanted to do by saying, Okay, 542 00:30:36,040 --> 00:30:37,520 Speaker 1: this is why I want to be, this is how 543 00:30:37,560 --> 00:30:39,480 Speaker 1: I want to do it. That's why I know when 544 00:30:39,560 --> 00:30:42,280 Speaker 1: Zeke did what he did. You gotta know what you 545 00:30:42,320 --> 00:30:44,520 Speaker 1: want to do as a player, and everybody else is 546 00:30:44,560 --> 00:30:47,320 Speaker 1: just everybody else. So that's why Dak is doing what 547 00:30:47,360 --> 00:30:49,600 Speaker 1: he want to do, standing on principles, what you're standing on, 548 00:30:49,640 --> 00:30:53,400 Speaker 1: what he wanted to believe. And so one thing I 549 00:30:53,480 --> 00:30:57,000 Speaker 1: try not to do is what I would do, because 550 00:30:57,200 --> 00:31:01,360 Speaker 1: what I would do anybody faith. Yeah, when I went 551 00:31:01,400 --> 00:31:04,680 Speaker 1: over to the that that store that they got over there, 552 00:31:05,040 --> 00:31:07,480 Speaker 1: I went over there and saw like, wow, man, about 553 00:31:07,480 --> 00:31:12,120 Speaker 1: thirty cents. This stuff ain't got dack name on it. Okay, 554 00:31:12,200 --> 00:31:15,480 Speaker 1: So I ain't telling us Jones he can't make money. 555 00:31:16,240 --> 00:31:18,520 Speaker 1: Ain't telling miss Jones he gave me. But Dak saying 556 00:31:18,640 --> 00:31:22,080 Speaker 1: this is what I think my value is. Yeah. Now, 557 00:31:22,080 --> 00:31:25,680 Speaker 1: how about the CBA and losing that franchise tag and 558 00:31:25,800 --> 00:31:29,480 Speaker 1: the Redskins meddling with Mark Cooper because if he if 559 00:31:29,480 --> 00:31:31,920 Speaker 1: we did have two tags, Yeah, if we did have 560 00:31:32,000 --> 00:31:34,480 Speaker 1: two tags, they would have had to give us a 561 00:31:34,600 --> 00:31:36,840 Speaker 1: first round draft pick for that. You don't have two 562 00:31:36,880 --> 00:31:40,240 Speaker 1: franchise tags. No, you don't. I'm just saying, transition, transution, 563 00:31:40,840 --> 00:31:43,480 Speaker 1: get nothing nothing. Okay, that's what he would have gotten. 564 00:31:43,720 --> 00:31:46,560 Speaker 1: It's just a placeholder in terms of making a guy 565 00:31:46,720 --> 00:31:49,680 Speaker 1: give your offers, you can. Yeah, either either way, they 566 00:31:49,760 --> 00:31:52,800 Speaker 1: were meddling in our business, trying to get Mark Cooper 567 00:31:52,840 --> 00:31:55,000 Speaker 1: and he was true to two, true to his word 568 00:31:55,240 --> 00:31:56,800 Speaker 1: by saying that I love it here and I want 569 00:31:56,800 --> 00:31:58,840 Speaker 1: to be here, and he signed for less ten million 570 00:31:58,880 --> 00:32:02,720 Speaker 1: dollars less you know, and see Quinn wanted to be 571 00:32:02,800 --> 00:32:09,440 Speaker 1: here too, but nobody pays mick Is by that hitting 572 00:32:09,480 --> 00:32:13,239 Speaker 1: them for thirty one meal? Did that keep us from 573 00:32:13,280 --> 00:32:16,040 Speaker 1: getting It cost them this year for sure? You know. 574 00:32:16,360 --> 00:32:20,680 Speaker 1: So it's not the money, it's how you can spread 575 00:32:20,720 --> 00:32:26,560 Speaker 1: out the money. See, I don't I don't go from 576 00:32:26,600 --> 00:32:29,960 Speaker 1: the in football with the Sarah cap. I never go 577 00:32:30,080 --> 00:32:32,840 Speaker 1: from the positive side. And what I mean by that 578 00:32:33,080 --> 00:32:37,160 Speaker 1: is what's the worst thing can happen? But the worst 579 00:32:37,160 --> 00:32:40,400 Speaker 1: thing just happened. They had to tag that the worst 580 00:32:40,400 --> 00:32:43,840 Speaker 1: thing just happened. They had to tag that the term 581 00:32:43,920 --> 00:32:46,320 Speaker 1: if they wanted to march, they had to sign him 582 00:32:46,600 --> 00:32:48,680 Speaker 1: A mart say I'm gonna look out, I want I 583 00:32:48,720 --> 00:32:50,920 Speaker 1: want to be here. So they got a little reprieve 584 00:32:51,040 --> 00:32:53,920 Speaker 1: on that, Okay, but dude, they would have let him 585 00:32:53,920 --> 00:32:55,880 Speaker 1: go for the one twenty. You think if it was 586 00:32:55,960 --> 00:32:57,840 Speaker 1: watching the sa oh I'm going for the one twenty 587 00:32:58,000 --> 00:33:01,840 Speaker 1: Dallas with the match. So the worst thing happening, but 588 00:33:01,960 --> 00:33:05,080 Speaker 1: you was able to sign this guy. You lost Robert Quinn. 589 00:33:05,440 --> 00:33:07,720 Speaker 1: I mean, you lost Robert Quinn and you lost Cobb. 590 00:33:09,360 --> 00:33:11,760 Speaker 1: You know that's why I like Nate Newton, you know why, 591 00:33:11,840 --> 00:33:13,800 Speaker 1: because he looks on the bright side of it. Yeah, 592 00:33:14,560 --> 00:33:17,320 Speaker 1: we don't. We don't have Amari Cooper in the division 593 00:33:17,360 --> 00:33:19,720 Speaker 1: because there's a chance. A lot of reports before free 594 00:33:19,760 --> 00:33:22,160 Speaker 1: agency said, hey, you Amary would be a great fit 595 00:33:22,280 --> 00:33:25,560 Speaker 1: you know where Philadelphia. Yeah, you know where. Byron Jones 596 00:33:25,600 --> 00:33:29,120 Speaker 1: will be a fit Philadelphia. Yeah. Neither one of those happened. 597 00:33:29,800 --> 00:33:33,320 Speaker 1: Marie gets back with the Cowboys, Byron does lo walk. 598 00:33:33,480 --> 00:33:36,040 Speaker 1: He's gone, but he's in the AFC. He's with the Dolphins. 599 00:33:36,040 --> 00:33:38,560 Speaker 1: You don't have to worry about him playing twice a year. 600 00:33:38,840 --> 00:33:40,680 Speaker 1: You have a little bit of a bright side to this. 601 00:33:40,800 --> 00:33:44,200 Speaker 1: You haven't lost your quarterback. You keep your top basically 602 00:33:44,200 --> 00:33:47,160 Speaker 1: top ten wide receiver in the league. Would anybody argue 603 00:33:47,440 --> 00:33:49,520 Speaker 1: that he's not a top ten receiver in the league. 604 00:33:49,600 --> 00:33:51,560 Speaker 1: I don't think so. If you keep a guy like 605 00:33:51,640 --> 00:33:54,360 Speaker 1: that on your ball club, you're doing yourself a favor, 606 00:33:54,520 --> 00:33:57,680 Speaker 1: even though you have two of the best players on 607 00:33:57,720 --> 00:34:00,400 Speaker 1: your roster leave, which is gonna leave some sort sort 608 00:34:00,440 --> 00:34:02,440 Speaker 1: of now now we're gonna we know we're gonna be 609 00:34:02,480 --> 00:34:06,040 Speaker 1: in the secondary of the secondary of free agency. We 610 00:34:06,120 --> 00:34:08,919 Speaker 1: know we're not gonna go out and sign a big name, 611 00:34:09,680 --> 00:34:11,520 Speaker 1: but there's still some guys out. But if but if 612 00:34:11,560 --> 00:34:18,319 Speaker 1: you get the right guy and free agency, this this 613 00:34:18,360 --> 00:34:21,440 Speaker 1: would be like a never The loss of Quinn and 614 00:34:21,480 --> 00:34:25,279 Speaker 1: the loss of call Black can never happened. Because I 615 00:34:25,360 --> 00:34:29,080 Speaker 1: gotta believe, as much as I love Jason Garrett, I 616 00:34:29,120 --> 00:34:34,040 Speaker 1: gotta believe that coach coach mccarthur has a little bit 617 00:34:34,040 --> 00:34:37,359 Speaker 1: more to give. I just gotta believe that. I just 618 00:34:37,440 --> 00:34:39,920 Speaker 1: gotta believe that they got a little bit more to 619 00:34:40,040 --> 00:34:44,000 Speaker 1: the offensive punch than what we had before. Of course, 620 00:34:44,040 --> 00:34:47,680 Speaker 1: I just gotta believe because if they don't and we 621 00:34:47,760 --> 00:34:52,160 Speaker 1: don't sign the right free agents on defense, yeah, well 622 00:34:52,200 --> 00:34:55,200 Speaker 1: maybe today would have been disastrous if Amark Cooper had 623 00:34:55,239 --> 00:34:57,000 Speaker 1: went to the Redskins, right, because they would have been 624 00:34:57,000 --> 00:35:01,120 Speaker 1: a wholesale the wholesale cell. But but but Nay, you were 625 00:35:01,120 --> 00:35:03,120 Speaker 1: talking before when we went to the break that the 626 00:35:03,200 --> 00:35:05,799 Speaker 1: defensive guys have that work cut out for him, and 627 00:35:05,840 --> 00:35:08,839 Speaker 1: it looks that way because of all the losses. But again, 628 00:35:08,960 --> 00:35:12,480 Speaker 1: free agency starts on Wednesday, and if when we get 629 00:35:12,520 --> 00:35:14,520 Speaker 1: those guys in here, coupled with the guys that we 630 00:35:14,640 --> 00:35:17,759 Speaker 1: have under contract. I think that those are the things 631 00:35:17,760 --> 00:35:20,000 Speaker 1: that's gonna make this defense is strong. Right now, it 632 00:35:20,040 --> 00:35:21,880 Speaker 1: just doesn't look like it. And that's why you have 633 00:35:21,920 --> 00:35:24,440 Speaker 1: the panic in the room because there's a lot of 634 00:35:24,440 --> 00:35:27,160 Speaker 1: defensive deficiencies right now that we see its blaring. Well. 635 00:35:27,200 --> 00:35:30,399 Speaker 1: You can kind of see that on the numbers game 636 00:35:30,480 --> 00:35:32,920 Speaker 1: whenever you're looking at the Cowboys and what they spend 637 00:35:32,920 --> 00:35:35,920 Speaker 1: on offense and on defense. Right now, at this very moment, 638 00:35:36,280 --> 00:35:39,360 Speaker 1: the offense holds one hundred and twenty three million of 639 00:35:39,440 --> 00:35:42,120 Speaker 1: the cap spin for the Cowboys, where the defense has 640 00:35:42,120 --> 00:35:46,080 Speaker 1: only fifty seven. That's more on offense than Kansas City, 641 00:35:46,120 --> 00:35:49,719 Speaker 1: San Francisco, Green Bay, Baltimore, and New Orleans. And it's 642 00:35:49,719 --> 00:35:53,439 Speaker 1: also less on defense by a considerable margin of those 643 00:35:53,480 --> 00:35:56,000 Speaker 1: five notable teams at the same time. That's courtesy of 644 00:35:56,080 --> 00:35:59,040 Speaker 1: Dan Turner on twelt. But there's no quarterback out there. 645 00:35:59,080 --> 00:36:03,680 Speaker 1: Probably cost thirty one million this year, not this year. 646 00:36:03,719 --> 00:36:05,560 Speaker 1: But look at Kansas City, they're about to have to 647 00:36:05,600 --> 00:36:09,080 Speaker 1: pay a quarterback. No, but Aaron Rodgers, I know, but 648 00:36:09,120 --> 00:36:11,560 Speaker 1: the numbers you quoted about the offense are a little 649 00:36:11,600 --> 00:36:14,680 Speaker 1: skewed because it's a little skewed, especially in Baltimore's case 650 00:36:14,719 --> 00:36:17,240 Speaker 1: because their quarterback, who's an MVP, is on a rookie 651 00:36:17,239 --> 00:36:19,279 Speaker 1: contract at the moment. Yeah, so it's a little bit 652 00:36:19,320 --> 00:36:21,680 Speaker 1: skewed at the same time. But Baltimore, who has one 653 00:36:21,680 --> 00:36:24,520 Speaker 1: of the better defenses in the in the NFL, they're 654 00:36:24,560 --> 00:36:27,239 Speaker 1: only spending ninety eight million dollars on defense, where the 655 00:36:27,239 --> 00:36:30,440 Speaker 1: Cowboys are at fifty seven. That's where my numbers are 656 00:36:30,520 --> 00:36:33,120 Speaker 1: lying there. Should have just gone up if they signed 657 00:36:33,120 --> 00:36:35,200 Speaker 1: those contracts with the guys they just got. Well they 658 00:36:35,239 --> 00:36:37,840 Speaker 1: traded for Calias Campbell. Yeah, and how much is he 659 00:36:37,920 --> 00:36:40,560 Speaker 1: gonna cost? I think that's involved in this. No, because 660 00:36:40,560 --> 00:36:43,840 Speaker 1: it hasn't happened yet. It hasn't gone on there. The 661 00:36:44,040 --> 00:36:48,000 Speaker 1: thing you've got to be careful on those those charts. Yeah, 662 00:36:48,080 --> 00:36:55,120 Speaker 1: the free agency, uh, being that even if that would 663 00:36:55,120 --> 00:36:59,040 Speaker 1: have signed and we would have had the money, this 664 00:36:59,160 --> 00:37:03,000 Speaker 1: is the biggest year year to date for free agency 665 00:37:03,040 --> 00:37:07,719 Speaker 1: for the Dallas Cowboys. This is the biggest draft for 666 00:37:07,760 --> 00:37:13,080 Speaker 1: the Dallas Cowboys because you got to see last year, 667 00:37:14,880 --> 00:37:18,560 Speaker 1: numbers don't mean anything. Still come down to wins and losses. 668 00:37:19,000 --> 00:37:22,280 Speaker 1: We did not produce the only person in that defense 669 00:37:22,719 --> 00:37:25,760 Speaker 1: that I know that where he lead was two people 670 00:37:25,920 --> 00:37:27,759 Speaker 1: I mean and the two people that I'm not gonna 671 00:37:27,760 --> 00:37:30,120 Speaker 1: say Robert Plaint because he to me he was a 672 00:37:30,120 --> 00:37:33,239 Speaker 1: hell of a pass rusher, but he couldn't stop the 673 00:37:33,320 --> 00:37:37,520 Speaker 1: run deficiencies in the rung. So but the markets Larns 674 00:37:37,719 --> 00:37:41,400 Speaker 1: had an off year and Byron Jones is Gonne. The 675 00:37:41,480 --> 00:37:44,839 Speaker 1: other guys, even my guy Jordan Lewis, who I love 676 00:37:44,920 --> 00:37:47,560 Speaker 1: at the slot. If he played more than the slot. 677 00:37:47,560 --> 00:37:51,280 Speaker 1: He's just a guy. So we got to feel those positions. 678 00:37:51,320 --> 00:37:54,200 Speaker 1: I just believe that Coach McCarthy and y'all contentment if 679 00:37:54,200 --> 00:37:58,239 Speaker 1: I'm wrong. I just think offensively, you know he can 680 00:37:58,400 --> 00:38:01,520 Speaker 1: he can do more with the offense. How do you think? So? Yeah, Mick, 681 00:38:01,560 --> 00:38:03,480 Speaker 1: I want to ask you, like, isn't it our running 682 00:38:03,760 --> 00:38:07,120 Speaker 1: Every every decade the Cowboys find themselves at a crossroads. 683 00:38:07,160 --> 00:38:10,560 Speaker 1: And year two thousand with Dave Campo took over two 684 00:38:10,440 --> 00:38:14,040 Speaker 1: thou no, no, no, no. You know what I'm saying 685 00:38:14,080 --> 00:38:16,880 Speaker 1: is we're at a crossroads literally, because then you go 686 00:38:16,960 --> 00:38:20,399 Speaker 1: to twenty ten and interim head coach Jason Garrett comes 687 00:38:20,400 --> 00:38:24,560 Speaker 1: in and now twenty twenty, here we are. Every ten years, 688 00:38:24,600 --> 00:38:26,920 Speaker 1: it seems we find ourselves in this situation where it 689 00:38:26,920 --> 00:38:30,040 Speaker 1: gets very interesting on what the identity of this team 690 00:38:30,120 --> 00:38:32,719 Speaker 1: is going to be. And so offensively, we know that 691 00:38:32,719 --> 00:38:35,239 Speaker 1: the juice is gonna be applied by Mike McCarthy and 692 00:38:35,280 --> 00:38:38,880 Speaker 1: his new philosophy. Maybe the terminology won't change because the 693 00:38:38,960 --> 00:38:41,919 Speaker 1: offensive coordinator is still in place, and so we those 694 00:38:41,920 --> 00:38:45,399 Speaker 1: things we don't worry about. But defensively, it's where we're saying, look, 695 00:38:45,600 --> 00:38:47,600 Speaker 1: this is where the biggest side that we have to 696 00:38:47,640 --> 00:38:49,799 Speaker 1: make up, and we're gonna have to bring in those 697 00:38:49,840 --> 00:38:51,960 Speaker 1: players that do it. We have the guy that we 698 00:38:52,040 --> 00:38:54,520 Speaker 1: got Tristan Hill last year. We can't just give up 699 00:38:54,520 --> 00:38:57,240 Speaker 1: on this kid because look it's a second round draft 700 00:38:57,239 --> 00:38:59,840 Speaker 1: pick and you know he has to have something in 701 00:38:59,880 --> 00:39:02,160 Speaker 1: the tank. Malikue Collins, it doesn't look like we're gonna 702 00:39:02,200 --> 00:39:04,160 Speaker 1: be able to sign him. Looks like he's out of here. 703 00:39:04,320 --> 00:39:08,480 Speaker 1: But we drafted Tristan Hill formerly Collins. They play the 704 00:39:08,520 --> 00:39:12,319 Speaker 1: same position. And Tyron Crawford is he coming back? MS 705 00:39:12,360 --> 00:39:15,680 Speaker 1: drafted Taco Charlton right right? That didn't work out. I mean, 706 00:39:15,760 --> 00:39:19,040 Speaker 1: hindsight is twenty one that hurts. He's playing with Byron 707 00:39:19,040 --> 00:39:22,080 Speaker 1: now out in Miami. No I understand what you're saying. So, 708 00:39:22,200 --> 00:39:24,719 Speaker 1: but the good thing this year is they do have 709 00:39:25,760 --> 00:39:29,600 Speaker 1: it's twofold, right, You've got cap space that they haven't 710 00:39:29,640 --> 00:39:32,920 Speaker 1: had for a while. But they've also got more guys 711 00:39:33,040 --> 00:39:36,280 Speaker 1: to resign than they've ever had in a while, because 712 00:39:36,280 --> 00:39:39,359 Speaker 1: they got more free agents that they're gonna you know, 713 00:39:39,440 --> 00:39:42,759 Speaker 1: they have to resign. So that was always going to 714 00:39:42,840 --> 00:39:46,160 Speaker 1: be problematic. So your money's gonna get spread out, but 715 00:39:46,360 --> 00:39:55,040 Speaker 1: it's gonna run out pretty quickly. They seeing that. Okay, Will, 716 00:39:55,960 --> 00:39:58,920 Speaker 1: I think Will you can correct me me because you 717 00:39:59,040 --> 00:40:03,920 Speaker 1: are more But from what I'm perceiving, Will is more 718 00:40:03,960 --> 00:40:06,000 Speaker 1: in control of the draft. Now, I don't think it's 719 00:40:06,000 --> 00:40:11,160 Speaker 1: gonna be a whole lot of committees. This is where 720 00:40:11,400 --> 00:40:13,680 Speaker 1: I've always looked at the Cowboys kind of weird. It's 721 00:40:13,719 --> 00:40:16,560 Speaker 1: always good for us to get in the room and 722 00:40:17,320 --> 00:40:25,040 Speaker 1: break it down and let's vote. But Mick, this is 723 00:40:25,120 --> 00:40:31,200 Speaker 1: your show, so if we fail, you get fired. Yeah, yeah, yeah, 724 00:40:31,840 --> 00:40:36,319 Speaker 1: how about that? But but no, but no, I know 725 00:40:36,360 --> 00:40:39,440 Speaker 1: what I'm saying. Because you have a structure there, we'll 726 00:40:39,560 --> 00:40:42,319 Speaker 1: find I think, and I maybe stringing, but I think 727 00:40:43,080 --> 00:40:46,279 Speaker 1: mister Jones and Steven and missus Jones gonna say hey, 728 00:40:46,280 --> 00:40:47,960 Speaker 1: we'll we're gonna lay on you a little bit more 729 00:40:48,000 --> 00:40:52,080 Speaker 1: this year. Yeah, and so now he married these coaches 730 00:40:52,080 --> 00:40:55,520 Speaker 1: with the players and let him do his job. You know, 731 00:40:55,600 --> 00:40:58,759 Speaker 1: we we've we've liked certain guys, we've liked this guy, 732 00:40:58,840 --> 00:41:03,080 Speaker 1: we've liked this guy, and we've passed on bulldogs for 733 00:41:03,280 --> 00:41:08,640 Speaker 1: guys that, oh he fits the position. Wow, man, really well, 734 00:41:08,640 --> 00:41:12,040 Speaker 1: why he ain't doing nothing? And we all know now 735 00:41:12,440 --> 00:41:15,680 Speaker 1: it ain't no perfect science and drafting, but you when 736 00:41:15,719 --> 00:41:18,160 Speaker 1: you see a dude that can do it and he's 737 00:41:18,200 --> 00:41:20,640 Speaker 1: got the arm left, but he may be ten pounds 738 00:41:20,760 --> 00:41:24,200 Speaker 1: later and we don't get him because of that. No, man, 739 00:41:24,480 --> 00:41:27,799 Speaker 1: that I want to see. I want to see what 740 00:41:27,880 --> 00:41:30,799 Speaker 1: this new staff can do. I really do, because I 741 00:41:30,800 --> 00:41:34,319 Speaker 1: don't think they was brought in here to uh say, 742 00:41:34,400 --> 00:41:38,520 Speaker 1: let's go eight and eight. Yeah, yeah, I think they 743 00:41:38,600 --> 00:41:41,799 Speaker 1: was brought in him to do more. Now, realistically, I 744 00:41:41,840 --> 00:41:44,640 Speaker 1: think we know that it's gonna be a hell of 745 00:41:44,640 --> 00:41:46,719 Speaker 1: a job for these coaches. Absolutely, it's gonna be a 746 00:41:46,719 --> 00:41:49,120 Speaker 1: hell of a job. You agree, disagree? No, No, I 747 00:41:49,200 --> 00:41:51,480 Speaker 1: always thought of a job, man, and it was especially 748 00:41:51,560 --> 00:41:53,759 Speaker 1: going to be a hell of a job for the defense. Yeah. 749 00:41:54,640 --> 00:42:02,239 Speaker 1: And it's just getting hell of a merchant. Yeah, that's fine. Whatever. Well, 750 00:42:02,280 --> 00:42:05,600 Speaker 1: you can be at differences, and I'm you know, like 751 00:42:05,719 --> 00:42:07,880 Speaker 1: me and Mick ain't see into that thing the same, 752 00:42:07,920 --> 00:42:12,840 Speaker 1: and I love that and respect that. But somehow, some way, 753 00:42:12,960 --> 00:42:15,480 Speaker 1: whether he costs us thirty one met and gets his 754 00:42:15,600 --> 00:42:18,040 Speaker 1: cap this year, or whether he cost us fifty meet 755 00:42:18,080 --> 00:42:20,600 Speaker 1: and gets his cap, we still can't miss on defense. 756 00:42:21,080 --> 00:42:23,800 Speaker 1: I'm telling you, we can't miss. You're gonna have to 757 00:42:23,840 --> 00:42:25,600 Speaker 1: go out and get some guys, whether it be in 758 00:42:25,640 --> 00:42:28,040 Speaker 1: the draft, weather it being free agency. Yeah, it's easy 759 00:42:28,080 --> 00:42:30,439 Speaker 1: to say that. But if we go out and get guys, 760 00:42:30,480 --> 00:42:33,160 Speaker 1: it does cost. So you gotta do it. You gotta 761 00:42:33,200 --> 00:42:35,840 Speaker 1: do it within your budget. So my guess at cornerback, 762 00:42:36,239 --> 00:42:39,920 Speaker 1: my best guests would be they try to resign Anthony Brown. 763 00:42:40,080 --> 00:42:42,399 Speaker 1: You get a one year proven deal, so at least 764 00:42:42,400 --> 00:42:45,319 Speaker 1: you have I go back to you. At least you 765 00:42:45,360 --> 00:42:48,160 Speaker 1: have I cult there. Yeah, and then if you get 766 00:42:48,239 --> 00:42:50,839 Speaker 1: Kevin Smith, oh yeah, I can just kind of work 767 00:42:50,880 --> 00:42:55,200 Speaker 1: them in and then eventually Kevin Right, it's your job. 768 00:42:55,440 --> 00:42:57,400 Speaker 1: So if you get Anthony Brown, there at least you 769 00:42:57,520 --> 00:43:00,759 Speaker 1: got three corners you can bank on, right, and then 770 00:43:00,960 --> 00:43:03,920 Speaker 1: you can if you draft a guy. Then you say, okay, 771 00:43:04,120 --> 00:43:06,919 Speaker 1: I can look for a corner. If that corner's net there, 772 00:43:06,960 --> 00:43:10,160 Speaker 1: well okay, maybe I can get a defensive end. Now, 773 00:43:10,200 --> 00:43:11,920 Speaker 1: at some point you're gonna have to go get a 774 00:43:12,000 --> 00:43:14,279 Speaker 1: veteran defensive end that's out there that's not going to 775 00:43:14,400 --> 00:43:17,040 Speaker 1: cost an arm in the leg, because at this point, 776 00:43:17,080 --> 00:43:18,680 Speaker 1: what you don't want to do is bring in a 777 00:43:18,719 --> 00:43:23,600 Speaker 1: guy that the money says he's absolutely my starter, unless 778 00:43:23,680 --> 00:43:28,520 Speaker 1: that guy is really fits your your less Teez and Mike, 779 00:43:28,600 --> 00:43:39,360 Speaker 1: don't having to take us side, don't take outside. I 780 00:43:39,400 --> 00:43:42,440 Speaker 1: wish you would say defensive tackle. It doesn't hurt to 781 00:43:42,480 --> 00:43:46,000 Speaker 1: say defense. I guarantee you their priority is not defensive 782 00:43:46,040 --> 00:43:50,120 Speaker 1: tackle even going to be defensive vent. It's just like, 783 00:43:50,480 --> 00:43:54,040 Speaker 1: did you hear what Mike Mike Zimmer said about safeties 784 00:43:54,080 --> 00:43:57,720 Speaker 1: and corners and they let the safety go yeah, oh yeah, 785 00:43:57,920 --> 00:44:00,560 Speaker 1: And he said out on the priority list, the safety 786 00:44:00,640 --> 00:44:03,680 Speaker 1: is not real high right, right, And that's what everybody's 787 00:44:03,719 --> 00:44:05,880 Speaker 1: been saying around here, but no one believes him. But 788 00:44:06,040 --> 00:44:10,080 Speaker 1: see the difference is who knows safeties and corners like 789 00:44:10,160 --> 00:44:13,480 Speaker 1: Mike Zimmer that's right, so but they ain't proven over there. 790 00:44:13,960 --> 00:44:18,120 Speaker 1: They well know them. I know what you're saying. But 791 00:44:18,200 --> 00:44:21,840 Speaker 1: the priority is and I got it. They've done pretty 792 00:44:21,880 --> 00:44:26,200 Speaker 1: good with the corners, right, Okay, couldn't resign the guy 793 00:44:26,239 --> 00:44:28,719 Speaker 1: because he was they've been doing okay? Or did he 794 00:44:28,760 --> 00:44:32,560 Speaker 1: get overpaid? Yeah, a little bit Byron Jones, Byron Jones, 795 00:44:32,960 --> 00:44:35,719 Speaker 1: Xavier Rhodes, you would have paid him good for seventeen 796 00:44:35,800 --> 00:44:40,799 Speaker 1: million a year. Mick, We're not. I'm just asking let 797 00:44:40,800 --> 00:44:43,680 Speaker 1: me say this. I'm giving twelve or thirteen. Let me 798 00:44:43,840 --> 00:44:50,360 Speaker 1: say this, right, we have to prove. And this is 799 00:44:50,400 --> 00:44:53,759 Speaker 1: why I keep saying the new coaching staff, I think 800 00:44:53,800 --> 00:44:57,000 Speaker 1: a lot more falls on Will mcclay's plate, in which 801 00:44:57,040 --> 00:44:59,840 Speaker 1: I love that it does. And so but what this 802 00:45:00,080 --> 00:45:07,600 Speaker 1: new coaching staff. You have to understand the reason I 803 00:45:07,640 --> 00:45:10,600 Speaker 1: want to see, Like, I got new life for our corner. 804 00:45:10,640 --> 00:45:14,359 Speaker 1: What his name a cheetah. I got new life for him, 805 00:45:14,560 --> 00:45:16,960 Speaker 1: for Lewis, if we can get round you know why 806 00:45:17,000 --> 00:45:19,319 Speaker 1: I got a new life for him. Well, maybe if 807 00:45:19,320 --> 00:45:22,520 Speaker 1: we maybe if we do something different, maybe the techniques 808 00:45:22,520 --> 00:45:26,200 Speaker 1: are different because some guys and I give example, the 809 00:45:26,280 --> 00:45:29,200 Speaker 1: guy that left Kansas City and went to La Peterson 810 00:45:29,280 --> 00:45:33,400 Speaker 1: is his name. Now he's with Baltimore, Baltimore. When he 811 00:45:33,480 --> 00:45:36,759 Speaker 1: got to Baltimore told they told him, they said, hey, man, 812 00:45:38,719 --> 00:45:41,560 Speaker 1: don't worry about where you just left the Rams. Can 813 00:45:41,600 --> 00:45:44,800 Speaker 1: you play like you played when you play with Kansas City? 814 00:45:44,920 --> 00:45:47,920 Speaker 1: And he said, well, of course, his ability to turn 815 00:45:47,960 --> 00:45:50,160 Speaker 1: around a guy we had an older guy, We had 816 00:45:50,239 --> 00:45:53,200 Speaker 1: him for years that we let go went up to 817 00:45:53,360 --> 00:45:56,799 Speaker 1: the Ravens. You you got to be able to look 818 00:45:56,840 --> 00:45:59,160 Speaker 1: at a guy and say he fits O our scheme 819 00:45:59,320 --> 00:46:01,719 Speaker 1: you're talking about in the car Brandon cop, Yeah, he 820 00:46:01,800 --> 00:46:04,919 Speaker 1: might be available, but he had great success up there. 821 00:46:05,440 --> 00:46:08,960 Speaker 1: And see that's what I'm telling people. We don't know 822 00:46:10,960 --> 00:46:14,839 Speaker 1: if the old coaching staff style me some of these guys. 823 00:46:15,080 --> 00:46:16,520 Speaker 1: Let me ask you this. Let me ask you this, 824 00:46:16,640 --> 00:46:19,000 Speaker 1: like if you look at the NFL, the teams like 825 00:46:19,400 --> 00:46:22,959 Speaker 1: let's let's say the Patriots, Bill Belichick has been able 826 00:46:23,000 --> 00:46:26,440 Speaker 1: to extract more talent with less than anybody else in 827 00:46:26,440 --> 00:46:28,360 Speaker 1: the league as far as getting guys to play to 828 00:46:28,440 --> 00:46:31,480 Speaker 1: the scheme that he has. And so this defense, you're 829 00:46:31,520 --> 00:46:36,839 Speaker 1: gonna hope that with a Woozier Lewis Brown, if he 830 00:46:36,880 --> 00:46:39,760 Speaker 1: resigns with the Cowboys or whoever else, that we're able 831 00:46:39,800 --> 00:46:42,359 Speaker 1: to extract that kind of tal and may have that 832 00:46:42,440 --> 00:46:45,400 Speaker 1: touch and I go and say, right head over, you're 833 00:46:45,400 --> 00:46:47,200 Speaker 1: seeing that in New England players when they know him 834 00:46:47,239 --> 00:46:48,920 Speaker 1: to sign with other teams to get a lot of money. 835 00:46:49,880 --> 00:46:54,600 Speaker 1: But then but then they like us. And I'm talking 836 00:46:54,600 --> 00:46:57,040 Speaker 1: about the Cowboys. You got to be able to look 837 00:46:57,080 --> 00:47:00,239 Speaker 1: on that film and say he can do what I 838 00:47:00,320 --> 00:47:02,960 Speaker 1: want in this scheme at a high rate. Yeah, that's 839 00:47:02,960 --> 00:47:07,799 Speaker 1: what I mean about. And so Bill, Bill Belichick a 840 00:47:07,920 --> 00:47:10,399 Speaker 1: look at you, and he'll have his scouts and he 841 00:47:10,480 --> 00:47:13,960 Speaker 1: takes a more personal touch like you will see him, 842 00:47:14,520 --> 00:47:20,319 Speaker 1: uh shot up at Winston Salem. What Bill? Because he 843 00:47:20,360 --> 00:47:24,960 Speaker 1: knows that's what I wants to a perfect example. For 844 00:47:25,040 --> 00:47:29,080 Speaker 1: twenty years when I played, you could not tell the 845 00:47:29,160 --> 00:47:32,800 Speaker 1: New York Giants Artur Pittsburgh still still to this day 846 00:47:32,960 --> 00:47:35,480 Speaker 1: what a three four defensive men look like. And that's 847 00:47:35,520 --> 00:47:38,680 Speaker 1: the outside of linebackers. They knew when they saw it, 848 00:47:39,040 --> 00:47:42,200 Speaker 1: that's our guy. Whether they fall to him, whether they 849 00:47:42,239 --> 00:47:44,360 Speaker 1: got to go up and get them, they go get them. 850 00:47:44,480 --> 00:47:48,080 Speaker 1: Now I'm asking are we and I'm asking you, Mick, 851 00:47:48,719 --> 00:47:51,880 Speaker 1: do you feel we got that type of defensive coaching 852 00:47:51,960 --> 00:47:54,280 Speaker 1: staff in place? I think you got a head coach 853 00:47:54,560 --> 00:47:57,920 Speaker 1: that basically has already said you get me a good player, 854 00:47:57,960 --> 00:48:00,759 Speaker 1: I'll figure out my scheme absolutely, and I think that's 855 00:48:00,760 --> 00:48:03,960 Speaker 1: a good step forward. I think it's it's a coaching staff. 856 00:48:04,000 --> 00:48:07,040 Speaker 1: It gives you a lot more flexibility. Well thinks that. 857 00:48:07,239 --> 00:48:09,680 Speaker 1: We think, yeah. But with that being said, there's still 858 00:48:09,719 --> 00:48:12,160 Speaker 1: a long way to go until they even get a 859 00:48:12,239 --> 00:48:14,680 Speaker 1: chance to get their hands on some of these players, 860 00:48:14,719 --> 00:48:17,160 Speaker 1: whether they're acquired or drafted, because we don't know what's 861 00:48:17,200 --> 00:48:19,279 Speaker 1: going on with these dates and what are they going. 862 00:48:19,880 --> 00:48:21,680 Speaker 1: What are we gonna do when they lose a game? Though, 863 00:48:21,800 --> 00:48:24,600 Speaker 1: it's gonna be crazy, it's gonna be when when the 864 00:48:24,640 --> 00:48:27,360 Speaker 1: summer come to stuff. But we're going through now pass 865 00:48:27,440 --> 00:48:29,399 Speaker 1: and all of a sudden we will be hopefully, yeah, 866 00:48:29,480 --> 00:48:31,520 Speaker 1: hopefully that's the case. I got now, I got your 867 00:48:32,000 --> 00:48:35,160 Speaker 1: believe it or not. 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Come on, Chris, you 920 00:51:51,239 --> 00:51:55,720 Speaker 1: gotta hit it. That's beautiful. How do you have thirty, 921 00:51:55,840 --> 00:51:58,040 Speaker 1: like thirteen of those things? Do you come in there? 922 00:51:58,239 --> 00:52:01,840 Speaker 1: They're small? Okay, they're like him into So we know 923 00:52:02,000 --> 00:52:05,040 Speaker 1: we're getting, we know we're getting for Christmas. From absolutely 924 00:52:06,000 --> 00:52:09,839 Speaker 1: seventy five dollars, I can give each twenty four or something. Yeah, 925 00:52:09,920 --> 00:52:11,840 Speaker 1: come on, y'all throw it all out. Make it easy 926 00:52:11,880 --> 00:52:14,400 Speaker 1: for you. Hey, real quick, man, we're talking about this, 927 00:52:14,680 --> 00:52:16,799 Speaker 1: fire man. Just cool, real quick. What did Teddy get 928 00:52:16,920 --> 00:52:21,280 Speaker 1: Bridgewater three three years, sixty million dollars with the Carolina Panthers. 929 00:52:21,280 --> 00:52:25,080 Speaker 1: Teddy Bridgewater agreeing to terms. He's joining up with former 930 00:52:25,880 --> 00:52:30,239 Speaker 1: offensive assistant Joe Brady, who's now the offensive coordinator over 931 00:52:30,280 --> 00:52:32,520 Speaker 1: in Carolina. So he's got a new quarterback to play with. 932 00:52:32,640 --> 00:52:35,160 Speaker 1: And this kind of comes on the heels of Cam 933 00:52:35,200 --> 00:52:39,759 Speaker 1: Newton being the or saying that, hey Cam, you can go. 934 00:52:40,239 --> 00:52:43,360 Speaker 1: That sounds like out a trade. So three years, sixty 935 00:52:43,480 --> 00:52:47,680 Speaker 1: three sixty that sounds like a pretty safe, pretty safe. 936 00:52:47,800 --> 00:52:50,520 Speaker 1: It's kind of a proven deal. It is. It is 937 00:52:50,600 --> 00:52:53,359 Speaker 1: as it should be. I'm telling you, man, the kid 938 00:52:53,400 --> 00:52:56,920 Speaker 1: can play. You've always been really high on him, no 939 00:52:57,040 --> 00:53:00,000 Speaker 1: off turner, how on him. But Norv is not there. 940 00:53:00,440 --> 00:53:02,560 Speaker 1: But you know what, But that's what I'm basing it 941 00:53:02,600 --> 00:53:06,839 Speaker 1: off of. If one thing that I've always and people 942 00:53:06,880 --> 00:53:08,840 Speaker 1: get mad at me, NORV is one of the greatest 943 00:53:08,880 --> 00:53:13,319 Speaker 1: officer of coordinators in any game. And he knows quarterbacks. 944 00:53:14,239 --> 00:53:17,880 Speaker 1: He know he would nor would go overboard and helping 945 00:53:17,920 --> 00:53:22,560 Speaker 1: a guy reached his potential and Darren moves Johnson. NORV 946 00:53:22,680 --> 00:53:25,960 Speaker 1: loves Teddy and I've always liked him. I knew it 947 00:53:25,960 --> 00:53:28,040 Speaker 1: was since he was in high school. And this kid 948 00:53:28,080 --> 00:53:30,640 Speaker 1: has never never done nothing wrong to show that he's 949 00:53:30,680 --> 00:53:33,719 Speaker 1: not a good quarterback. Elite I don't know, because he's 950 00:53:33,760 --> 00:53:37,239 Speaker 1: never had a chance to prove it at Louisville. Good 951 00:53:37,320 --> 00:53:40,000 Speaker 1: quarterback Minnesota until he ripped his knee up in practice. 952 00:53:40,400 --> 00:53:42,239 Speaker 1: You know, but I bet you zim look back to 953 00:53:42,400 --> 00:53:46,360 Speaker 1: large jas. But that's the that's the other part about 954 00:53:46,400 --> 00:53:49,759 Speaker 1: it is with all these quarterbacks in free agencies, like 955 00:53:49,840 --> 00:53:52,440 Speaker 1: you said, Mick, somebody's gonna be left without a seat 956 00:53:52,680 --> 00:53:59,279 Speaker 1: once the music stopped. Who is too? Yeah? And so 957 00:53:59,280 --> 00:54:01,279 Speaker 1: who is that gonna miss? The child? I think I 958 00:54:01,360 --> 00:54:06,319 Speaker 1: think wins go. I think I think I think it's 959 00:54:06,360 --> 00:54:08,160 Speaker 1: gonna be Philip rid O. I think he's going to 960 00:54:08,160 --> 00:54:13,640 Speaker 1: the Colts. Oh you think that's a Brady going back home? 961 00:54:13,840 --> 00:54:18,560 Speaker 1: I'm not Tom thinking the Charger Chargers or Vegas. I 962 00:54:18,600 --> 00:54:21,960 Speaker 1: think it's gonna as the dumb question of like who's 963 00:54:22,000 --> 00:54:25,160 Speaker 1: going to Tennessee. They already got they got their guys. 964 00:54:25,280 --> 00:54:28,840 Speaker 1: They got their guy. And why did people tie that 965 00:54:28,960 --> 00:54:31,719 Speaker 1: Tannehill deal into Dak in some way? Because he didn't 966 00:54:31,719 --> 00:54:35,160 Speaker 1: get the same deal that Dak is looking for. No close, 967 00:54:35,280 --> 00:54:39,680 Speaker 1: not even close. But Tannehill got but sixty eight million guaranteed, 968 00:54:39,800 --> 00:54:41,960 Speaker 1: and he just turned around the hand the ball off 969 00:54:41,960 --> 00:54:45,000 Speaker 1: to all world running back. I mean, come on, man, 970 00:54:45,000 --> 00:54:48,759 Speaker 1: that's pretty that's pretty sweet deal. They but him and 971 00:54:48,840 --> 00:54:53,320 Speaker 1: his people got with the coach and their people in 972 00:54:53,640 --> 00:54:56,520 Speaker 1: the gym, and they knew what they're looking for. They 973 00:54:56,560 --> 00:54:59,680 Speaker 1: got a great, tight end and a nice upcoming wide receiver. 974 00:55:00,040 --> 00:55:02,600 Speaker 1: They know what they got. They got a good office line, 975 00:55:02,600 --> 00:55:05,000 Speaker 1: they got nice defense, they know what they got. They 976 00:55:05,040 --> 00:55:07,759 Speaker 1: need a guy to manage at a high efficiency, and 977 00:55:07,800 --> 00:55:10,480 Speaker 1: that was they guy. They gave him four years, ninety 978 00:55:10,480 --> 00:55:14,759 Speaker 1: one million guarantee. Now the packages and eighteen so I 979 00:55:14,920 --> 00:55:17,960 Speaker 1: guarantee averages out to twenty two points. Well he went 980 00:55:18,000 --> 00:55:24,040 Speaker 1: from the scrap he to the penthouse years. That's like 981 00:55:24,080 --> 00:55:26,319 Speaker 1: trading places there. Well, that's what happens when you go 982 00:55:26,400 --> 00:55:29,440 Speaker 1: to a conference championship games. That wink wink, what do 983 00:55:29,520 --> 00:55:36,000 Speaker 1: you laugh for that? Don't text Mick about the Dallas 984 00:55:36,000 --> 00:55:39,799 Speaker 1: Cowboys quarterback because he has done his homework. Man, look 985 00:55:39,840 --> 00:55:42,640 Speaker 1: at that thing. I'm telling you were you were? You 986 00:55:42,719 --> 00:55:45,480 Speaker 1: go ahead, Mick on Facebook or Twitter. You better be 987 00:55:45,520 --> 00:55:49,080 Speaker 1: correct because he's gonna have every quarterback that side. Nate. 988 00:55:49,200 --> 00:55:51,640 Speaker 1: I'm afraid of that little book over there. Yeah, man, 989 00:55:51,719 --> 00:55:55,759 Speaker 1: that it's got like Bill's little green buck. Yeah he 990 00:55:55,840 --> 00:55:58,400 Speaker 1: don't have a phone or no, he's not googling that. 991 00:55:58,719 --> 00:56:00,799 Speaker 1: He went right to how does didn't do that name? 992 00:56:01,360 --> 00:56:05,400 Speaker 1: Because he knows the issue and the big talk is 993 00:56:05,400 --> 00:56:08,960 Speaker 1: gonna always circle around that, and so he's prepared at 994 00:56:09,040 --> 00:56:12,520 Speaker 1: any angle to come at you love it. Now, with 995 00:56:12,560 --> 00:56:14,799 Speaker 1: all this being said, we can talk about this deep 996 00:56:14,880 --> 00:56:18,239 Speaker 1: quarterback free agency class only won. But there were some 997 00:56:18,280 --> 00:56:21,200 Speaker 1: wide receivers on the movie yesterday, one of which that 998 00:56:21,280 --> 00:56:25,080 Speaker 1: I want to hear your reactions to. What was the 999 00:56:25,080 --> 00:56:29,040 Speaker 1: first thing that went through your mind whenever DeAndre Hopkins 1000 00:56:29,120 --> 00:56:31,400 Speaker 1: was traded to Arizona. But we know where all the 1001 00:56:31,400 --> 00:56:37,520 Speaker 1: toilet paper went. They went to Houston. Yeah, Bill O'Brien, Wow, 1002 00:56:38,400 --> 00:56:41,319 Speaker 1: it's something wrong with Bill Man. You know, my mom 1003 00:56:41,360 --> 00:56:43,520 Speaker 1: always say, you know, you got to pick your words wise. 1004 00:56:43,760 --> 00:56:47,040 Speaker 1: So which sound words? Dumb or ignorant? I don't know, 1005 00:56:47,280 --> 00:56:50,280 Speaker 1: Probably a little bit of ignorant. That's a harsher word. 1006 00:56:50,480 --> 00:56:52,239 Speaker 1: I mean, you want to use that one. This kid, 1007 00:56:52,840 --> 00:56:55,799 Speaker 1: is he a problem in the locker room? I mean 1008 00:56:57,560 --> 00:57:00,080 Speaker 1: it has to be something that made him do that, 1009 00:57:00,239 --> 00:57:02,719 Speaker 1: what made him here here? Here was the bottom line. 1010 00:57:02,719 --> 00:57:05,040 Speaker 1: He was in the last year of his contract. Yeah, 1011 00:57:05,160 --> 00:57:08,240 Speaker 1: and they were trying to resign him and they weren't 1012 00:57:08,280 --> 00:57:10,920 Speaker 1: getting anywhere. And I think they felt like they weren't 1013 00:57:10,920 --> 00:57:13,520 Speaker 1: going to resign. Okay, okay, so it's like, okay, let's 1014 00:57:13,600 --> 00:57:16,360 Speaker 1: get something a second. A second, they got a second 1015 00:57:16,440 --> 00:57:18,840 Speaker 1: round draft pick, got a running back, got David Johnson 1016 00:57:18,920 --> 00:57:23,560 Speaker 1: has washed up back up. Look how fourth n see 1017 00:57:25,240 --> 00:57:27,280 Speaker 1: a little smug? Yeah, all right, come on, they got 1018 00:57:27,400 --> 00:57:34,280 Speaker 1: David Johnson, tender him um exclusive tag because this money 1019 00:57:34,320 --> 00:57:35,560 Speaker 1: still would have been up there and he would have 1020 00:57:35,600 --> 00:57:38,400 Speaker 1: hit their cat like that. Get hours. But how do 1021 00:57:38,480 --> 00:57:41,000 Speaker 1: you trade how do you trade away that kind of 1022 00:57:41,120 --> 00:57:45,040 Speaker 1: production when you look at see they did it with 1023 00:57:45,160 --> 00:57:48,080 Speaker 1: Clowning and that was the beginning second round draft pick 1024 00:57:48,120 --> 00:57:52,320 Speaker 1: for Clowney. Yeah, so they it becomes see I don't 1025 00:57:52,360 --> 00:57:55,400 Speaker 1: understand New England and why they do what they do. 1026 00:57:56,200 --> 00:57:59,680 Speaker 1: They win in every year, but all you showing you 1027 00:58:00,080 --> 00:58:04,720 Speaker 1: at that team right there, Hey man, they go out 1028 00:58:04,760 --> 00:58:06,600 Speaker 1: and play hard as we can play. Then me be 1029 00:58:06,720 --> 00:58:08,960 Speaker 1: by itself because the team ain't gonna never look out 1030 00:58:09,000 --> 00:58:12,320 Speaker 1: for nobody. And you know in the lad person they 1031 00:58:12,400 --> 00:58:14,560 Speaker 1: paid with J. J. Watts, But you gotta get on 1032 00:58:14,760 --> 00:58:16,320 Speaker 1: and the last and the other thing on that he 1033 00:58:16,400 --> 00:58:19,680 Speaker 1: didn't have any dead money, so they didn't incur any 1034 00:58:19,800 --> 00:58:24,040 Speaker 1: dead money trading him, that's right. So but Bill O'Brien 1035 00:58:24,200 --> 00:58:28,320 Speaker 1: was was up twenty eight points in the AFC Championship. 1036 00:58:28,640 --> 00:58:31,560 Speaker 1: You know, I mean not that championship, but against Kansas City, 1037 00:58:31,800 --> 00:58:34,640 Speaker 1: and there's a method to his madness. May people may 1038 00:58:34,680 --> 00:58:37,040 Speaker 1: not agree with it, but he's been able to rebuild 1039 00:58:37,080 --> 00:58:39,800 Speaker 1: that team and maybe with Cobb, and he has lary 1040 00:58:39,880 --> 00:58:42,320 Speaker 1: Me Tonsil on the offensive line. I don't just want 1041 00:58:42,320 --> 00:58:44,800 Speaker 1: to dog on him because he's had success in Houston, 1042 00:58:45,000 --> 00:58:47,320 Speaker 1: but the trade just didn't make sense. Well he look 1043 00:58:48,280 --> 00:58:53,640 Speaker 1: if you look at their wide receivers now it's Kenny Stills, Stills, Cobb, 1044 00:58:53,840 --> 00:58:57,560 Speaker 1: Homa product and a kid that camp be stay healthy. 1045 00:58:58,080 --> 00:59:00,600 Speaker 1: A couple of people. So what you're thinking on them 1046 00:59:01,320 --> 00:59:04,080 Speaker 1: and what you're saying, and I'm gonna wait and see 1047 00:59:04,160 --> 00:59:07,480 Speaker 1: with you. What you're saying, is my quarterback is there? 1048 00:59:08,760 --> 00:59:12,680 Speaker 1: See that? That is the thing that I try to 1049 00:59:12,720 --> 00:59:16,200 Speaker 1: tell everybody when you look at Dak Let's quit talking 1050 00:59:16,320 --> 00:59:19,440 Speaker 1: money and let's say is he there? And what I 1051 00:59:19,560 --> 00:59:22,880 Speaker 1: mean by that is, okay, what you thought last oh man, 1052 00:59:22,920 --> 00:59:25,760 Speaker 1: he needs somebody to oh he can't tell the team? Well, 1053 00:59:25,760 --> 00:59:27,440 Speaker 1: I don't know whether they can tell the team or not, 1054 00:59:27,800 --> 00:59:32,560 Speaker 1: but the Joneses are asking themselves is he there? By 1055 00:59:32,640 --> 00:59:35,480 Speaker 1: you're getting to wear a piece like that. You you're 1056 00:59:35,520 --> 00:59:38,840 Speaker 1: telling them, You're telling the world your quarterback, he's there. 1057 00:59:39,400 --> 00:59:43,000 Speaker 1: So if we can get suitable above not that stuff 1058 00:59:43,040 --> 00:59:45,040 Speaker 1: we had a couple of years ago talking about bat committee. 1059 00:59:45,200 --> 00:59:48,400 Speaker 1: But guys that have played and can play. Now I'm 1060 00:59:48,440 --> 00:59:51,600 Speaker 1: with you who this isn't ever receiver they get beside 1061 00:59:51,680 --> 00:59:54,960 Speaker 1: him as is a walking injury, you know, but they're 1062 00:59:54,960 --> 00:59:57,480 Speaker 1: saying their quarterback is there. Many they are saying their 1063 00:59:57,560 --> 01:00:00,640 Speaker 1: quarterback is there. And it's crazy how quick thing turn around, 1064 01:00:00,720 --> 01:00:04,000 Speaker 1: because we were just talking a couple weeks ago almost 1065 01:00:04,080 --> 01:00:06,360 Speaker 1: that there could have been a Clemson reunion down in 1066 01:00:06,440 --> 01:00:09,680 Speaker 1: Houston with to Shaun Watson. Sammy Watkins was potentially going 1067 01:00:09,720 --> 01:00:12,120 Speaker 1: to go to Houston and then you've got DeAndre Hopkins 1068 01:00:12,200 --> 01:00:14,800 Speaker 1: there as well. That would have been something special. But instead, 1069 01:00:15,160 --> 01:00:17,760 Speaker 1: now Watson's all by himself down there. Now he does 1070 01:00:17,840 --> 01:00:20,320 Speaker 1: have will Fuller, not a Clemson girl. Fuller was the 1071 01:00:20,360 --> 01:00:27,520 Speaker 1: other day was trying to sleep. He's got a hand 1072 01:00:27,560 --> 01:00:31,560 Speaker 1: free injury. But understand and I understand that, Yeah, the 1073 01:00:31,760 --> 01:00:34,160 Speaker 1: value he didn't get he should have. If you're gonna 1074 01:00:34,200 --> 01:00:36,280 Speaker 1: do it, you should get more for him. Right. So 1075 01:00:36,440 --> 01:00:38,840 Speaker 1: she is in the last year of his contract, which 1076 01:00:39,080 --> 01:00:44,280 Speaker 1: de values the trade value. But he's this didn't just 1077 01:00:44,880 --> 01:00:48,680 Speaker 1: spring up like this morning, he woke up and said, Oh, 1078 01:00:48,800 --> 01:00:51,080 Speaker 1: I'm gonna do this. So he's got to have a plane. 1079 01:00:51,120 --> 01:00:53,360 Speaker 1: It's got to be a fan maybe where he thinks 1080 01:00:53,400 --> 01:00:56,600 Speaker 1: they're gonna find a wide receiver to sign in free 1081 01:00:56,640 --> 01:01:00,880 Speaker 1: agent other than Randall cop because obviously that didn't happen 1082 01:01:00,960 --> 01:01:05,400 Speaker 1: overnight either. But you gotta ask yourself and one question, 1083 01:01:05,480 --> 01:01:07,840 Speaker 1: I know this is what you're telling your people. Your 1084 01:01:07,920 --> 01:01:12,480 Speaker 1: quarterback has a ride. Number two is who needs a contract? Yeah? 1085 01:01:12,960 --> 01:01:18,120 Speaker 1: Number two is, uh, ain't no better hands in the league. No, 1086 01:01:18,360 --> 01:01:23,360 Speaker 1: he's got incredible hands and clutch player. And see, I'm 1087 01:01:23,400 --> 01:01:26,760 Speaker 1: with you. Okay, you did what you did, but you're 1088 01:01:26,800 --> 01:01:29,480 Speaker 1: saying your quarterback has a ride. So but I know 1089 01:01:29,600 --> 01:01:33,920 Speaker 1: one thing. Will Fuller walking off the field hurt what 1090 01:01:34,080 --> 01:01:36,440 Speaker 1: they got one to call Niki, Niki, Kiki and all 1091 01:01:36,480 --> 01:01:38,400 Speaker 1: of them. Yeah, he walked off the field. Then the 1092 01:01:38,480 --> 01:01:41,480 Speaker 1: tight end walter the field and it's kid all by himself. Yeah, 1093 01:01:41,600 --> 01:01:44,040 Speaker 1: it's quarterback. He had to do it all. Now I'm 1094 01:01:44,080 --> 01:01:47,720 Speaker 1: looking at this right here, mackan. It says that DeAndre 1095 01:01:47,840 --> 01:01:51,000 Speaker 1: Hopkins is an unrestricted free agent in twenty twenty three. However, 1096 01:01:51,120 --> 01:01:54,320 Speaker 1: he was trying to get a restructure a new deal done. 1097 01:01:54,600 --> 01:01:56,240 Speaker 1: He was just trying to get his money done, which 1098 01:01:56,280 --> 01:01:59,840 Speaker 1: is the same same situation that you're everybody. Everybody does that. 1099 01:02:00,000 --> 01:02:02,720 Speaker 1: Once they see the market be reset and they understand 1100 01:02:02,760 --> 01:02:04,880 Speaker 1: that their numbers are higher than the next guy, they 1101 01:02:05,000 --> 01:02:07,200 Speaker 1: want to get to that party. And that's the same thing. 1102 01:02:07,280 --> 01:02:09,680 Speaker 1: I mean, you know, you look at Atlanta letting go 1103 01:02:09,800 --> 01:02:12,600 Speaker 1: of their running back that had three years and I 1104 01:02:12,640 --> 01:02:15,200 Speaker 1: mean he had three years left on this deal and 1105 01:02:15,280 --> 01:02:19,400 Speaker 1: they asked him, but could you see he wasn't that guy. No, 1106 01:02:19,520 --> 01:02:22,400 Speaker 1: But that's that's what you said. That's my point. The 1107 01:02:22,520 --> 01:02:25,400 Speaker 1: thirty nine point five million, he laughed in this contract, 1108 01:02:25,560 --> 01:02:30,720 Speaker 1: there was no guarantees, guarantees on him. Yeah, that's what 1109 01:02:30,840 --> 01:02:32,840 Speaker 1: he's trying. That's when I read two men. I'm like, okay, 1110 01:02:32,920 --> 01:02:36,320 Speaker 1: because the first thing when I see a great player, 1111 01:02:37,240 --> 01:02:41,720 Speaker 1: a top three wide receiver, a top three quarterback or whatever, 1112 01:02:41,960 --> 01:02:45,560 Speaker 1: I'm like, why. The first thing, I why? Why? Because hey, 1113 01:02:45,600 --> 01:02:48,120 Speaker 1: why did he sign this dude back? Because it got 1114 01:02:48,240 --> 01:02:51,280 Speaker 1: to be a locker room problem or something. No. You know, now, 1115 01:02:51,320 --> 01:02:54,160 Speaker 1: when you say that the Seaun Watson has arrived, do 1116 01:02:54,240 --> 01:02:56,240 Speaker 1: you think that is also a part of the fact 1117 01:02:56,320 --> 01:02:59,320 Speaker 1: that you know, quarterbacks are getting paid the way that 1118 01:02:59,360 --> 01:03:02,040 Speaker 1: they are. You know that Patrick Mahomes is gonna get paid. 1119 01:03:02,480 --> 01:03:06,560 Speaker 1: Watson's contract is gonna do We can't touch stop what 1120 01:03:06,680 --> 01:03:15,000 Speaker 1: do you mean? Stop? Stop? Stop? What? Well, let me 1121 01:03:15,080 --> 01:03:20,280 Speaker 1: say this right now, ain't no able one other guy 1122 01:03:20,360 --> 01:03:23,640 Speaker 1: in the league is able to talk about that type 1123 01:03:23,640 --> 01:03:30,200 Speaker 1: of this. Dude here what I believe can take any 1124 01:03:30,280 --> 01:03:34,479 Speaker 1: and everything and make it great. Patrick Mahomes is here, 1125 01:03:35,000 --> 01:03:37,760 Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers is here, and the rest of the league 1126 01:03:37,840 --> 01:03:40,479 Speaker 1: is right here. But you don't believe Watson's money gonna 1127 01:03:40,480 --> 01:03:41,800 Speaker 1: be right up there with it. It's gonna be right 1128 01:03:41,920 --> 01:03:45,000 Speaker 1: up there with it. But I'm telling you Mahomes is here, 1129 01:03:45,680 --> 01:03:48,280 Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers is here, and the rest of them. Now, 1130 01:03:48,320 --> 01:03:50,320 Speaker 1: I don't know how y'all rank them, but that's how 1131 01:03:50,360 --> 01:03:53,840 Speaker 1: I rank them. Well. At the moment, our time is here. 1132 01:03:54,400 --> 01:03:57,080 Speaker 1: We're here, right, and so that means we're out of time. 1133 01:03:57,120 --> 01:04:00,080 Speaker 1: We've got to get out of here and go with 1134 01:04:00,160 --> 01:04:02,560 Speaker 1: our days. Stop a few minutes after we get off, Oh, 1135 01:04:02,640 --> 01:04:05,840 Speaker 1: absolutely absolutely. We got the news coming on after us 1136 01:04:05,960 --> 01:04:08,360 Speaker 1: a while, Yeah, the ten o'clock news, Bill Jones. No, 1137 01:04:08,640 --> 01:04:11,680 Speaker 1: we've got other things going on. But throughout the week, 1138 01:04:11,960 --> 01:04:15,439 Speaker 1: different scheduling here in the SWBC Mortgage Studio. The Draft 1139 01:04:15,480 --> 01:04:19,240 Speaker 1: show is tomorrow, not Thursday, and then the break is Thursday, 1140 01:04:19,320 --> 01:04:22,000 Speaker 1: not tomorrow. So I just wanted to remind everybody of that. 1141 01:04:22,120 --> 01:04:25,000 Speaker 1: But for Nick Nate Newton, for heck My Harrison, and 1142 01:04:25,320 --> 01:04:28,200 Speaker 1: Mickey's Bagnola, I'm Kyle Yeoman's thanks for listening so long 1143 01:04:28,320 --> 01:04:31,640 Speaker 1: here for talking Cowboys. 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