1 00:00:01,440 --> 00:00:05,360 Speaker 1: Hey guys, welcome to I've never said this before with 2 00:00:05,559 --> 00:00:10,520 Speaker 1: me Tommy di Dario. Today's guest is actress, recording artists, 3 00:00:10,560 --> 00:00:15,280 Speaker 1: and Internet sensation Kira Casserin. Kira is someone that teen 4 00:00:15,360 --> 00:00:19,639 Speaker 1: Vogue dubbed as a real life superhero because well, she's 5 00:00:19,680 --> 00:00:22,680 Speaker 1: a total badass now. Kira is best known for her 6 00:00:22,760 --> 00:00:26,480 Speaker 1: starring role in the TV series The Thundermans The Thundermins. 7 00:00:26,520 --> 00:00:29,360 Speaker 1: It's about a family with superpowers who try to live 8 00:00:29,400 --> 00:00:33,360 Speaker 1: as normal lives as possible, and Kira plays Phoebe who 9 00:00:33,440 --> 00:00:36,520 Speaker 1: dreams of being a superhero and using her powers for good, 10 00:00:36,600 --> 00:00:39,080 Speaker 1: while her twin brother Max, while he wants to be 11 00:00:39,120 --> 00:00:42,200 Speaker 1: the next big super villain and use his powers for evil. 12 00:00:43,360 --> 00:00:46,360 Speaker 1: The show is so much fun, and now it is 13 00:00:46,440 --> 00:00:50,680 Speaker 1: being rebooted as an all new movie called The Thunderman's Return, 14 00:00:50,880 --> 00:00:54,680 Speaker 1: and yes it is out right now. Today we dive 15 00:00:54,720 --> 00:00:57,840 Speaker 1: into the new movie. We talk about revisiting a character 16 00:00:58,120 --> 00:01:01,080 Speaker 1: years later that Kira made peace with saying goodbye to. 17 00:01:01,680 --> 00:01:04,959 Speaker 1: We then dive into the emotional first day back on set, 18 00:01:05,319 --> 00:01:08,600 Speaker 1: and we pivot towards figuring out her police in Hollywood 19 00:01:08,640 --> 00:01:12,320 Speaker 1: over the last few years. After gaining so much success 20 00:01:12,360 --> 00:01:15,400 Speaker 1: as a teenager. And then perhaps one of my favorite 21 00:01:15,400 --> 00:01:18,200 Speaker 1: topics of conversation in this entire interview is when we 22 00:01:18,280 --> 00:01:21,600 Speaker 1: talked about tuning out other people's opinions and ideas for 23 00:01:21,720 --> 00:01:25,000 Speaker 1: what her life should be, and ugh, there is just 24 00:01:25,080 --> 00:01:28,479 Speaker 1: so much more. So let's see if today we can 25 00:01:28,560 --> 00:01:37,960 Speaker 1: get Kira to say something that she has never said before. Garah, 26 00:01:38,000 --> 00:01:39,440 Speaker 1: my friend, how are you today? 27 00:01:39,880 --> 00:01:41,520 Speaker 2: I'm so good. It's so good to see you again. 28 00:01:41,520 --> 00:01:42,000 Speaker 2: How's it going. 29 00:01:42,360 --> 00:01:45,280 Speaker 1: Oh, it's going awesome. It's so good to see you. 30 00:01:45,280 --> 00:01:47,720 Speaker 1: You miss than have a lot going on. 31 00:01:48,600 --> 00:01:49,680 Speaker 2: Yeah, you can say so. 32 00:01:50,440 --> 00:01:53,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, I would definitely say so. My favorite thing to 33 00:01:53,120 --> 00:01:55,280 Speaker 1: see right now is on social media. I love seeing 34 00:01:55,280 --> 00:01:58,120 Speaker 1: you posting pictures with your billboards all over town and 35 00:01:58,120 --> 00:02:00,760 Speaker 1: people snapping pictures of them. I mean, is it just 36 00:02:00,840 --> 00:02:05,800 Speaker 1: surreal to be revisiting a project that maybe you never 37 00:02:05,960 --> 00:02:08,120 Speaker 1: knew or thought you would revisit again. 38 00:02:08,400 --> 00:02:11,520 Speaker 2: Oh I definitely never thought we would revisit it again. Yeah, 39 00:02:11,080 --> 00:02:14,960 Speaker 2: it's wild. I keep describing those first few days on 40 00:02:15,040 --> 00:02:17,080 Speaker 2: set as that dream that you have as an adult 41 00:02:17,120 --> 00:02:19,040 Speaker 2: that you're back in high school and you're like, wait, 42 00:02:19,320 --> 00:02:21,000 Speaker 2: how did I get back here? I already did this? 43 00:02:21,080 --> 00:02:25,280 Speaker 2: What's happening. It was so surreal and so cool. Yeah, 44 00:02:25,320 --> 00:02:27,200 Speaker 2: it's been really amazing to get to like come home 45 00:02:27,240 --> 00:02:30,200 Speaker 2: to these people and the fans, and like I've just 46 00:02:30,240 --> 00:02:32,800 Speaker 2: been feeding off their enthusiasm and getting to like be 47 00:02:32,880 --> 00:02:35,880 Speaker 2: in conversation with them again about this whole Thunderman's world. 48 00:02:35,919 --> 00:02:38,880 Speaker 2: Has been very, very satisfying. It's been awesome. 49 00:02:39,240 --> 00:02:42,400 Speaker 1: So you really never expected to bring the Thunderment's back, 50 00:02:42,440 --> 00:02:44,680 Speaker 1: even with all the success it initially had. 51 00:02:45,160 --> 00:02:47,760 Speaker 2: I you know, there just wasn't really a precedent for it. 52 00:02:47,880 --> 00:02:52,760 Speaker 2: Like the show ended seven years ago, and when we ended, 53 00:02:52,800 --> 00:02:56,359 Speaker 2: we had done one hundred and ten episodes a movie episode, 54 00:02:56,919 --> 00:02:58,880 Speaker 2: you know, we had won our Kid's Choice Award. It 55 00:02:58,960 --> 00:03:00,960 Speaker 2: kind of was like okay, check, check, check, Like we 56 00:03:01,000 --> 00:03:03,680 Speaker 2: did all the things that we set goals to do. 57 00:03:03,919 --> 00:03:06,280 Speaker 2: On the very first day that it all started, we 58 00:03:06,280 --> 00:03:07,840 Speaker 2: were like, we want four seasons in a movie and 59 00:03:07,880 --> 00:03:11,600 Speaker 2: akca and we got them. And I don't know, that's 60 00:03:11,639 --> 00:03:13,600 Speaker 2: a really long run for a Nickelodeon show. And by 61 00:03:13,639 --> 00:03:15,840 Speaker 2: the time the show ended, you know, Jack Riffle and 62 00:03:15,919 --> 00:03:19,040 Speaker 2: I were like nineteen and twenty or twenty and twenty 63 00:03:19,040 --> 00:03:21,280 Speaker 2: one when it stopped daring and we just didn't think 64 00:03:21,280 --> 00:03:23,280 Speaker 2: we'd have the opportunity to come back, and frankly, we 65 00:03:23,360 --> 00:03:27,520 Speaker 2: also we needed some time away from it to like 66 00:03:27,720 --> 00:03:32,480 Speaker 2: go become people. You know, you're like emotional developmental growth 67 00:03:32,600 --> 00:03:35,120 Speaker 2: is definitely stunted a little bit when you were playing 68 00:03:35,160 --> 00:03:38,600 Speaker 2: this character that's a pseudo version of yourself all day, 69 00:03:38,600 --> 00:03:41,400 Speaker 2: every day for six years straight. Like you you don't 70 00:03:41,400 --> 00:03:43,360 Speaker 2: get a chance to evolve as a human being in 71 00:03:43,400 --> 00:03:45,520 Speaker 2: the same way as you might otherwise when you're that age. 72 00:03:45,560 --> 00:03:48,360 Speaker 2: So it was really great to like leave, and it's 73 00:03:48,360 --> 00:03:49,640 Speaker 2: been even better to come back. 74 00:03:49,880 --> 00:03:52,320 Speaker 1: Do you remember a moment where you were like, Okay, 75 00:03:52,320 --> 00:03:54,520 Speaker 1: I'm starting to miss this, Like I feel ready to 76 00:03:54,600 --> 00:03:55,720 Speaker 1: revisit this role. 77 00:03:56,480 --> 00:04:01,120 Speaker 2: You know, it's a complicated topic, so I guess I'll 78 00:04:01,120 --> 00:04:04,040 Speaker 2: start here. I actually quit acting a couple of years ago. 79 00:04:04,120 --> 00:04:08,400 Speaker 2: I completely stopped auditioning because I love multiicam sitcom like 80 00:04:08,440 --> 00:04:10,840 Speaker 2: The Thundermans is, like, you know, any show that has 81 00:04:10,920 --> 00:04:12,960 Speaker 2: laughter and a live audience, Like That's the reason I 82 00:04:12,960 --> 00:04:14,920 Speaker 2: came out to La to do that genre. I love 83 00:04:15,000 --> 00:04:18,279 Speaker 2: making people laugh. And when The Thundermans ended, you know, 84 00:04:18,320 --> 00:04:20,520 Speaker 2: I started auditioning in the rest of Hollywood, and I 85 00:04:20,560 --> 00:04:23,800 Speaker 2: just found that there really isn't any comedy elsewhere and 86 00:04:24,000 --> 00:04:26,360 Speaker 2: in that sort of style, and I sorry, there's no 87 00:04:26,440 --> 00:04:29,919 Speaker 2: multiham comedy and I really knew I missed that. But 88 00:04:30,000 --> 00:04:32,920 Speaker 2: in terms of the show itself, I don't know. There's 89 00:04:32,920 --> 00:04:35,120 Speaker 2: a really weird thing in Hollywood where when you're on 90 00:04:35,160 --> 00:04:37,559 Speaker 2: a kid's show, people make you feel like it doesn't count. 91 00:04:38,480 --> 00:04:40,160 Speaker 2: And I think that I like let a lot of 92 00:04:40,200 --> 00:04:43,000 Speaker 2: people get to me to think like, Oh, this isn't 93 00:04:43,040 --> 00:04:45,640 Speaker 2: something that I should be proud of, this isn't something 94 00:04:45,640 --> 00:04:48,320 Speaker 2: that I should want to do again. Like, especially as 95 00:04:48,320 --> 00:04:50,279 Speaker 2: a musician, I had people in the industry being like, 96 00:04:50,320 --> 00:04:53,080 Speaker 2: you need to make people forget this ever happened. And 97 00:04:53,160 --> 00:04:55,880 Speaker 2: I think I let them convince me, Like I think 98 00:04:55,920 --> 00:04:58,000 Speaker 2: I believed them for a minute where I was like, Oh, yeah, 99 00:04:58,000 --> 00:05:00,640 Speaker 2: that's that's doesn't count. That was somebody else, that was 100 00:05:00,640 --> 00:05:02,440 Speaker 2: a different version of me, that was a character, that's 101 00:05:02,480 --> 00:05:05,159 Speaker 2: not real, that was a kid's show, and I sort 102 00:05:05,200 --> 00:05:08,840 Speaker 2: of discounted it. And it wasn't until the opportunity arose 103 00:05:08,880 --> 00:05:12,839 Speaker 2: to come back and do the reboot that I started 104 00:05:12,880 --> 00:05:15,960 Speaker 2: to really confront what those feelings were and who had 105 00:05:16,000 --> 00:05:18,960 Speaker 2: put them in my head. And once I got back 106 00:05:19,000 --> 00:05:22,719 Speaker 2: into this world. I realized those feelings never came from me. 107 00:05:23,440 --> 00:05:26,360 Speaker 2: I love this job. I'm so proud of the Thunderman's 108 00:05:26,360 --> 00:05:28,680 Speaker 2: I'm so proud of the work we did. I think 109 00:05:28,680 --> 00:05:31,520 Speaker 2: it's funny as hell. I think we worked so hard. 110 00:05:31,680 --> 00:05:35,400 Speaker 2: I think, you know, I have come to terms with 111 00:05:35,440 --> 00:05:37,239 Speaker 2: the fact that I had to go through puberty on camera, 112 00:05:37,320 --> 00:05:38,800 Speaker 2: and now I like how I look in the episodes, 113 00:05:38,800 --> 00:05:41,680 Speaker 2: which I didn't for a while, and like yeah, once 114 00:05:41,720 --> 00:05:45,240 Speaker 2: we got back into it, then I voraciously missed it 115 00:05:45,279 --> 00:05:48,120 Speaker 2: and was like, oh, I'm home now. This is what 116 00:05:48,160 --> 00:05:49,920 Speaker 2: I do, this is what I love. I'm good at this. 117 00:05:50,240 --> 00:05:52,400 Speaker 2: I want to do more of this. And so it's 118 00:05:52,440 --> 00:05:55,400 Speaker 2: also why I ended up becoming an executive producer, because 119 00:05:55,560 --> 00:05:57,520 Speaker 2: I care so deeply about this project and I had 120 00:05:57,600 --> 00:05:59,760 Speaker 2: really strong feelings about how I thought it needed to 121 00:05:59,760 --> 00:06:01,560 Speaker 2: be done if we were going to open this chapter 122 00:06:01,600 --> 00:06:04,600 Speaker 2: back up. And I'm really lucky and grateful that the 123 00:06:04,680 --> 00:06:07,240 Speaker 2: higher upsit paramount of Nickelodeon were willing to let me 124 00:06:07,279 --> 00:06:09,320 Speaker 2: come in with my very strong ideas and be like, 125 00:06:09,400 --> 00:06:10,279 Speaker 2: this is what we're doing. 126 00:06:10,400 --> 00:06:12,960 Speaker 1: So yeah, not only are you starring in this, you 127 00:06:13,000 --> 00:06:15,520 Speaker 1: are a boss, but a capital B. And that must 128 00:06:15,520 --> 00:06:18,720 Speaker 1: feel pretty damn good. And it's so crazy that people 129 00:06:18,760 --> 00:06:21,359 Speaker 1: in the industry would even have the audacity to say 130 00:06:21,960 --> 00:06:24,640 Speaker 1: anything to make you think that that wasn't a real 131 00:06:24,720 --> 00:06:26,000 Speaker 1: professional acting job. 132 00:06:26,240 --> 00:06:29,200 Speaker 2: I think it's more more ignorance than audacity. I think 133 00:06:29,240 --> 00:06:32,000 Speaker 2: people tend to think that because the style of acting 134 00:06:32,080 --> 00:06:35,560 Speaker 2: is so specific and broad that it's not as skilled, 135 00:06:36,000 --> 00:06:42,440 Speaker 2: or because there's four cameras, it's easier than like real filmmaking, 136 00:06:42,520 --> 00:06:44,560 Speaker 2: which is crazy because there's four cameras, which means there's 137 00:06:44,560 --> 00:06:46,440 Speaker 2: four times as much for a director to keep track 138 00:06:46,480 --> 00:06:48,440 Speaker 2: of and not to mention, like when there's a stunt 139 00:06:48,440 --> 00:06:51,320 Speaker 2: every three seconds, when there's like a crazy you know, 140 00:06:51,360 --> 00:06:53,760 Speaker 2: someone's getting slimed, or like there's an explosure or something 141 00:06:53,800 --> 00:06:55,800 Speaker 2: every three seconds. Like it's a lot of work for 142 00:06:55,839 --> 00:06:58,560 Speaker 2: the crew too. Like kids shows are, they're no joke, 143 00:06:58,680 --> 00:07:02,240 Speaker 2: they're really intense, the intense productions that require a lot 144 00:07:02,240 --> 00:07:03,880 Speaker 2: of people to work really hard. I just think people 145 00:07:03,920 --> 00:07:05,360 Speaker 2: don't know necessarily. 146 00:07:05,920 --> 00:07:08,120 Speaker 1: I consider myself an artist too, of sorts, and like 147 00:07:08,160 --> 00:07:11,280 Speaker 1: for any artists to judge another artist work like that, 148 00:07:11,320 --> 00:07:12,920 Speaker 1: I mean, art is art is art is art, So 149 00:07:12,960 --> 00:07:14,600 Speaker 1: it just makes me feel like, what the hell is 150 00:07:14,640 --> 00:07:15,400 Speaker 1: wrong with people. 151 00:07:15,760 --> 00:07:17,560 Speaker 2: I know, I you know, I know, and maybe I'm 152 00:07:17,560 --> 00:07:20,720 Speaker 2: too forgiving, but I do. I get it. You know, 153 00:07:21,480 --> 00:07:24,480 Speaker 2: Like comedy is already not given as much prestigious drama. 154 00:07:24,880 --> 00:07:27,920 Speaker 2: Multiicam comedy is not given as much prestige as single cam, 155 00:07:27,960 --> 00:07:30,280 Speaker 2: and kids comedy is not given as much prestige as 156 00:07:30,280 --> 00:07:33,520 Speaker 2: adult comedy. So when you get a kid's multi comedy, 157 00:07:33,600 --> 00:07:36,280 Speaker 2: it's like you I would go on Red Carpets and 158 00:07:36,320 --> 00:07:38,520 Speaker 2: like somebody who was on a Networks at Common would 159 00:07:38,520 --> 00:07:40,280 Speaker 2: show up and everyone would go do and pivot to 160 00:07:40,320 --> 00:07:41,920 Speaker 2: them and be like, Oh, she's just on a kid show. 161 00:07:41,920 --> 00:07:45,240 Speaker 2: Who cares? I get it, but also say I'm glad 162 00:07:45,240 --> 00:07:47,360 Speaker 2: that I have now broken out of that matrix. And 163 00:07:47,360 --> 00:07:49,800 Speaker 2: I'm like, no, you're wrong. We make something really good 164 00:07:49,800 --> 00:07:51,560 Speaker 2: that I'm really proud of. It makes kids really happy, 165 00:07:51,560 --> 00:07:52,800 Speaker 2: and I'm really happy to do it again. 166 00:07:53,280 --> 00:07:56,120 Speaker 1: Yeah, but I also imagine the moment of that happening 167 00:07:56,120 --> 00:07:58,000 Speaker 1: when you see somebody where all the cameras turn to 168 00:07:58,040 --> 00:08:00,280 Speaker 1: them and you're like, hey, I'm here. That probably didn't 169 00:08:00,280 --> 00:08:02,280 Speaker 1: it feel great back then? And I mean, hindsight is 170 00:08:02,280 --> 00:08:04,000 Speaker 1: twenty twenty, but that probably. 171 00:08:03,680 --> 00:08:06,560 Speaker 2: Sucked at sixteen. Yeah, it wasn't like a great feeling. 172 00:08:07,040 --> 00:08:10,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, that's so crazy. Well, thank god you've stuck 173 00:08:10,080 --> 00:08:12,080 Speaker 1: with the project. You've believed in it. It means so 174 00:08:12,200 --> 00:08:14,640 Speaker 1: much to so many people. So why was now the 175 00:08:14,720 --> 00:08:16,440 Speaker 1: right time to create this movie? 176 00:08:16,720 --> 00:08:19,080 Speaker 2: Great question. Well, you know, the show got popular again 177 00:08:19,120 --> 00:08:22,960 Speaker 2: in twenty twenty one during COVID on Netflix, and it 178 00:08:23,080 --> 00:08:26,440 Speaker 2: got a really interesting resurgence where old fans had refound 179 00:08:26,440 --> 00:08:28,960 Speaker 2: it and were rewatching it and new fans, new young 180 00:08:29,080 --> 00:08:31,480 Speaker 2: kids just kind of looking for something to watch stumbled 181 00:08:31,520 --> 00:08:34,160 Speaker 2: upon it and became fans of it. And I think 182 00:08:34,200 --> 00:08:36,839 Speaker 2: it was fall of twenty twenty one that I got 183 00:08:36,880 --> 00:08:39,920 Speaker 2: the call saying, hey, Paramount Plus wants to do something 184 00:08:40,000 --> 00:08:42,640 Speaker 2: with the Thundermins, And they just were really excited to 185 00:08:42,760 --> 00:08:45,199 Speaker 2: ride that wave. And they had kids asking, you know, 186 00:08:45,240 --> 00:08:47,000 Speaker 2: when's the next season because all of the new fans 187 00:08:47,080 --> 00:08:48,880 Speaker 2: didn't even know that it had been years at that 188 00:08:48,920 --> 00:08:52,840 Speaker 2: point since we wrapped. So they called us to do something, 189 00:08:52,920 --> 00:08:54,840 Speaker 2: and like I said, there was a there was a 190 00:08:54,840 --> 00:08:56,839 Speaker 2: lot of back and forth in the early stages. I 191 00:08:57,120 --> 00:08:59,920 Speaker 2: initially said no because the project looked a little different 192 00:09:00,000 --> 00:09:02,400 Speaker 2: and I didn't think it was right, and I just 193 00:09:02,720 --> 00:09:05,600 Speaker 2: said I don't think that this is how we should 194 00:09:05,600 --> 00:09:07,520 Speaker 2: bring the show back. I don't want to do this. 195 00:09:07,679 --> 00:09:12,240 Speaker 2: And luckily, instead of saying okay, the team at Paramount 196 00:09:12,240 --> 00:09:14,800 Speaker 2: Plus and Nickelodeon said well, what would need to change 197 00:09:14,800 --> 00:09:16,480 Speaker 2: for this to feel right? And I was able to 198 00:09:16,520 --> 00:09:18,040 Speaker 2: then have a dialogue and we were able to make 199 00:09:18,040 --> 00:09:21,360 Speaker 2: it what it is now. But yeah, and then it 200 00:09:21,440 --> 00:09:25,480 Speaker 2: was it was, let's see, kind of a year of 201 00:09:25,520 --> 00:09:28,280 Speaker 2: the back and forth of that, and then the year 202 00:09:28,440 --> 00:09:32,080 Speaker 2: you know, of pre pro development and then filming in 203 00:09:32,160 --> 00:09:34,160 Speaker 2: April twenty twenty three. It's like almost exactly a year 204 00:09:34,200 --> 00:09:35,920 Speaker 2: from when we shot it to it now coming out, 205 00:09:36,000 --> 00:09:38,280 Speaker 2: which is crazy because we only had nine shoot days. 206 00:09:38,640 --> 00:09:41,719 Speaker 1: Wait, I'm sorry nine nine You made a movie in 207 00:09:41,800 --> 00:09:42,280 Speaker 1: nine days? 208 00:09:42,679 --> 00:09:43,520 Speaker 2: Movie in nine days? 209 00:09:44,840 --> 00:09:46,079 Speaker 1: I don't even know what to say to that. 210 00:09:46,280 --> 00:09:47,680 Speaker 2: I know, well, we shot it. It was over the 211 00:09:47,679 --> 00:09:50,600 Speaker 2: course of four weeks because we used a hybrid multicam schedule. 212 00:09:50,640 --> 00:09:52,640 Speaker 2: This was not my choice, by the way, would have 213 00:09:52,679 --> 00:09:55,679 Speaker 2: loved a couple more weeks. But although we wrapped the 214 00:09:55,760 --> 00:09:58,520 Speaker 2: day before the strike hit in Hollywood, so I'm so 215 00:09:58,720 --> 00:10:01,880 Speaker 2: grateful that it was what it was. But yeah, we 216 00:10:02,480 --> 00:10:06,120 Speaker 2: rehearsed Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, and filmed Thursday Friday, just like 217 00:10:06,160 --> 00:10:07,959 Speaker 2: in the old days, but instead of that being a 218 00:10:08,000 --> 00:10:10,880 Speaker 2: whole episode, it was scenes plucked from throughout the whole movie. 219 00:10:10,920 --> 00:10:13,320 Speaker 2: So we filmed super out of order some weeks. I 220 00:10:13,320 --> 00:10:15,480 Speaker 2: think we shot Wednesday, Thursday Friday, But basically it would 221 00:10:15,480 --> 00:10:16,920 Speaker 2: be like a couple days of rehearsal, a few days 222 00:10:16,920 --> 00:10:19,640 Speaker 2: of shooting weekend, repeat for four weeks. 223 00:10:19,960 --> 00:10:21,679 Speaker 1: I mean that just shows what kind of an artist 224 00:10:21,679 --> 00:10:23,240 Speaker 1: you are, and how much work goes into this and 225 00:10:23,280 --> 00:10:25,560 Speaker 1: how valid and incredible this work is. Going back to 226 00:10:25,600 --> 00:10:28,760 Speaker 1: what you said earlier of those annoying people who like 227 00:10:28,840 --> 00:10:30,240 Speaker 1: to put other artists down. 228 00:10:30,120 --> 00:10:32,880 Speaker 2: Like, wow, yeah, all my props goes to the crew 229 00:10:32,960 --> 00:10:35,240 Speaker 2: on that one too. They work so hard, like even 230 00:10:35,280 --> 00:10:37,520 Speaker 2: putting up and taking down sets because we only had 231 00:10:37,679 --> 00:10:40,840 Speaker 2: two stages at Paramount for a whole movie, and so 232 00:10:41,280 --> 00:10:43,520 Speaker 2: they had to put sets up and then tear them down. 233 00:10:43,559 --> 00:10:45,520 Speaker 2: You know. We would wrap filming at ten pm and 234 00:10:45,559 --> 00:10:47,600 Speaker 2: then they go straight to work, working all night until 235 00:10:47,600 --> 00:10:49,480 Speaker 2: five am the next morning to get the sets changed over. 236 00:10:49,559 --> 00:10:52,480 Speaker 2: So we had some really amazing, hardworking crew on the set. 237 00:10:52,679 --> 00:10:55,800 Speaker 1: That's amazing. So how was this movie different from the series, Like, 238 00:10:55,840 --> 00:10:58,000 Speaker 1: what are the things that excites you this time around. 239 00:10:58,280 --> 00:11:00,760 Speaker 2: I mean, I've just been describing it as like everything 240 00:11:00,800 --> 00:11:03,000 Speaker 2: you know and love from the original series, but bigger 241 00:11:03,040 --> 00:11:06,280 Speaker 2: and better. It's just it's elevated, you know, it's just 242 00:11:06,360 --> 00:11:08,640 Speaker 2: in scale. First of all, we got not only the 243 00:11:08,760 --> 00:11:11,160 Speaker 2: entire main cast back, but like almost every guest star 244 00:11:11,200 --> 00:11:14,440 Speaker 2: we've ever had. There's so many wonderful cameos throughout the 245 00:11:14,440 --> 00:11:17,840 Speaker 2: project from people from the original series. The set pieces 246 00:11:17,840 --> 00:11:22,200 Speaker 2: are much bigger, the stunts are way way bigger. We 247 00:11:22,240 --> 00:11:24,600 Speaker 2: have some really we got an amazing stunt coordinator on 248 00:11:24,600 --> 00:11:27,280 Speaker 2: this project who just really took what we had done 249 00:11:27,360 --> 00:11:30,280 Speaker 2: and just like took it above and beyond. Really fun 250 00:11:30,320 --> 00:11:34,959 Speaker 2: stunt choreography, really fun special effects. Just so many things, 251 00:11:35,000 --> 00:11:36,760 Speaker 2: Like it's a lot, it's jam packed, there's a lot 252 00:11:36,800 --> 00:11:39,800 Speaker 2: squeezed into. I think it's like a sixty seven minute 253 00:11:39,880 --> 00:11:44,240 Speaker 2: run time without commercials. So yeah, it's it's elevated for sure. 254 00:11:51,000 --> 00:11:53,800 Speaker 1: And it's a movie that everybody can enjoy, right Like 255 00:11:53,840 --> 00:11:56,240 Speaker 1: it's I feel like different generations of people can enjoy. 256 00:11:56,080 --> 00:11:58,520 Speaker 2: This, I hope. So, I mean, we definitely used to 257 00:11:58,520 --> 00:12:00,559 Speaker 2: pride ourselves on like being one of the kids shows 258 00:12:00,559 --> 00:12:04,640 Speaker 2: that adults didn't mind or even liked watching. Yeah, because 259 00:12:04,679 --> 00:12:05,920 Speaker 2: you know how it is like if you have kids, 260 00:12:05,920 --> 00:12:07,640 Speaker 2: they're in the living room playing something over and over, 261 00:12:07,760 --> 00:12:09,040 Speaker 2: you have to listen to that. And we used to 262 00:12:09,080 --> 00:12:10,839 Speaker 2: have parents be like, if my kids are gonna watch 263 00:12:10,840 --> 00:12:12,800 Speaker 2: a kids show, I want it to be yours, which 264 00:12:12,920 --> 00:12:15,720 Speaker 2: I always really appreciated. But yeah, I mean, you know, 265 00:12:15,800 --> 00:12:17,880 Speaker 2: it's for the legacy fans who are there from the 266 00:12:17,880 --> 00:12:21,000 Speaker 2: beginning from twenty thirteen. It's for the new fans who 267 00:12:21,000 --> 00:12:23,719 Speaker 2: found it in twenty twenty one. It's for the families 268 00:12:23,760 --> 00:12:25,960 Speaker 2: of those kids, the parents who are going to watch 269 00:12:25,960 --> 00:12:29,400 Speaker 2: with them, and you know, fans of anything superhero and 270 00:12:29,440 --> 00:12:31,680 Speaker 2: anything comedy. Like I don't think you have to have 271 00:12:31,760 --> 00:12:34,079 Speaker 2: watched The Thunderman's to enjoy this movie. I mean you 272 00:12:34,160 --> 00:12:36,079 Speaker 2: get a lot more out of it if you have, obviously, 273 00:12:36,559 --> 00:12:38,200 Speaker 2: But I think it'd be fun for everyone. 274 00:12:38,720 --> 00:12:42,360 Speaker 1: And there's something about playing a superhero that I just 275 00:12:42,400 --> 00:12:45,800 Speaker 1: feel like any actor would jump at that opportunity. Has 276 00:12:45,840 --> 00:12:48,760 Speaker 1: that just been so fun to step back into totally. 277 00:12:48,960 --> 00:12:51,200 Speaker 2: You know, it's funny. I used to get asked, you know, 278 00:12:51,240 --> 00:12:53,440 Speaker 2: in interviews and impress I used to get asked about 279 00:12:53,480 --> 00:12:56,560 Speaker 2: like superhero things all the time, like who's my favorite? 280 00:12:56,600 --> 00:12:59,440 Speaker 2: And I didn't know anything about superheroes. It was so 281 00:12:59,480 --> 00:13:02,719 Speaker 2: funny to be like playing a superhero and have absolutely 282 00:13:03,120 --> 00:13:07,480 Speaker 2: no context for anything superhero. I've done some research since then, 283 00:13:07,960 --> 00:13:10,200 Speaker 2: but yeah, it's great. I mean, you know, it resonates 284 00:13:10,240 --> 00:13:13,520 Speaker 2: with people. Obviously, people like superheroes. It like hits a 285 00:13:13,520 --> 00:13:19,120 Speaker 2: specific combination of aspirations and fantasy. That's really fun. It's great. 286 00:13:19,160 --> 00:13:21,800 Speaker 2: It's fun to feel. It's fun. You genuinely do feel 287 00:13:21,800 --> 00:13:24,000 Speaker 2: when you leave set like you have superpowers, Like if 288 00:13:24,040 --> 00:13:26,000 Speaker 2: you're on set all day going like this, and when 289 00:13:26,040 --> 00:13:29,360 Speaker 2: you do, things actually move in the real world, somebody's 290 00:13:29,400 --> 00:13:32,000 Speaker 2: like holding it on a fishing wire. Like you come 291 00:13:32,000 --> 00:13:33,880 Speaker 2: home after a long day at work and your door's 292 00:13:33,920 --> 00:13:35,320 Speaker 2: open and you go, oh, let me close that, and 293 00:13:35,360 --> 00:13:37,360 Speaker 2: you have to like remind yourself you don't have superpowers. 294 00:13:37,400 --> 00:13:39,720 Speaker 2: It really does like convince you, which is fun. 295 00:13:40,040 --> 00:13:42,480 Speaker 1: That's incredible, and also give me a little fomo. I'd 296 00:13:42,480 --> 00:13:44,480 Speaker 1: be like, damn, I really wish I did have that power. 297 00:13:45,160 --> 00:13:46,960 Speaker 2: I know. I'm like that movie Bolt where the dog 298 00:13:47,120 --> 00:13:49,920 Speaker 2: is like a superhero dog and then he leaves set 299 00:13:49,920 --> 00:13:52,160 Speaker 2: and he thinks he has real superpowers, like that's my life. 300 00:13:52,360 --> 00:13:54,360 Speaker 1: Oh my god, what a great life that would be. 301 00:13:54,600 --> 00:13:57,720 Speaker 1: I love that so much. So when you walked away 302 00:13:57,760 --> 00:14:00,600 Speaker 1: from the show all those years ago, over decade ago, 303 00:14:00,640 --> 00:14:02,640 Speaker 1: I guess, up to this point or close to it, 304 00:14:03,360 --> 00:14:06,360 Speaker 1: since you began filming day, yes started. 305 00:14:06,559 --> 00:14:09,079 Speaker 2: We filmed the original pilot in twenty twelve. September of 306 00:14:09,120 --> 00:14:12,320 Speaker 2: twenty twelve, we went to series spring of twenty thirteen. 307 00:14:12,400 --> 00:14:15,320 Speaker 2: So it's been eleven years since we started and seven 308 00:14:15,400 --> 00:14:16,439 Speaker 2: years since we wrapped. 309 00:14:16,640 --> 00:14:19,120 Speaker 1: So on that day one eleven years ago and you 310 00:14:19,120 --> 00:14:22,000 Speaker 1: stepped into this character shoes, right, Phoebe, and then you 311 00:14:22,360 --> 00:14:24,680 Speaker 1: eight years old at fourteen years old, and then you 312 00:14:24,720 --> 00:14:28,240 Speaker 1: step into them again eleven years later, was that a 313 00:14:28,360 --> 00:14:31,280 Speaker 1: really all the emotional experience for you? 314 00:14:31,840 --> 00:14:35,560 Speaker 2: So emotional? I mean, you can see there's a video posted, 315 00:14:35,640 --> 00:14:38,200 Speaker 2: it's on my accounts, it's on Nickelodeon's accounts of us 316 00:14:38,320 --> 00:14:40,160 Speaker 2: seeing the set for the first time on the very 317 00:14:40,200 --> 00:14:42,120 Speaker 2: first day. It was the content piece. I was like 318 00:14:42,200 --> 00:14:44,280 Speaker 2: most adamant that we filmed because I had seen the 319 00:14:44,280 --> 00:14:46,960 Speaker 2: Friends Reunion and it was so emotional just watching that. 320 00:14:47,040 --> 00:14:48,400 Speaker 2: I was like, we need to do that. So we did. 321 00:14:48,960 --> 00:14:51,840 Speaker 2: And there's a shorter version that's like a little quicker, 322 00:14:51,920 --> 00:14:53,920 Speaker 2: and then there's a long version that just got posted 323 00:14:53,920 --> 00:14:58,280 Speaker 2: more recently. But yeah, you can see how incredibly emotional 324 00:14:58,280 --> 00:14:59,640 Speaker 2: it is for all of us. I mean I walk 325 00:14:59,680 --> 00:15:02,840 Speaker 2: in and start crying. Jack walks in and is like 326 00:15:03,120 --> 00:15:06,480 Speaker 2: in a daze. Addison walks in and is like, I'm shaking. 327 00:15:06,600 --> 00:15:09,720 Speaker 2: What is going on? Maya walks in and she goes 328 00:15:10,360 --> 00:15:12,640 Speaker 2: everything's so much smaller than I remember, because when she 329 00:15:12,680 --> 00:15:14,720 Speaker 2: wrapped she was five years old and now she's twelve 330 00:15:14,760 --> 00:15:16,720 Speaker 2: and she's like an adult now, which was very funny, 331 00:15:16,880 --> 00:15:19,200 Speaker 2: but yeah, it was. It was very emotional putting on 332 00:15:19,240 --> 00:15:22,720 Speaker 2: the super suit. Like not to mention, I mean, honestly, 333 00:15:22,880 --> 00:15:25,320 Speaker 2: the biggest thing is like the cast, we hadn't all 334 00:15:25,320 --> 00:15:27,160 Speaker 2: been in a room together since the day we wrapped. 335 00:15:28,280 --> 00:15:30,800 Speaker 2: It was six years that we hadn't all been in 336 00:15:30,800 --> 00:15:32,920 Speaker 2: a room together, and then there we were on the 337 00:15:32,960 --> 00:15:36,000 Speaker 2: first day, not just in our room, in our Hiddenville 338 00:15:36,040 --> 00:15:38,560 Speaker 2: living room set. It was very emotional. 339 00:15:39,000 --> 00:15:41,880 Speaker 1: Is it better playing the same character the second time 340 00:15:41,960 --> 00:15:43,880 Speaker 1: around or really no different? 341 00:15:44,840 --> 00:15:49,320 Speaker 2: It's scary in a way because I didn't want to 342 00:15:49,600 --> 00:15:55,280 Speaker 2: betray what I had established Phoebe to be, but I 343 00:15:55,320 --> 00:15:58,240 Speaker 2: had grown up so much in those six years, and 344 00:15:58,320 --> 00:16:01,160 Speaker 2: I also wanted Phoebe to have grown up. And it 345 00:16:01,280 --> 00:16:05,280 Speaker 2: was a really mindful task figuring out what I wanted 346 00:16:05,320 --> 00:16:08,520 Speaker 2: to bring of my newer self to the new Phoebe 347 00:16:08,920 --> 00:16:12,760 Speaker 2: versus what I wanted to play as original Phoebe. There 348 00:16:12,760 --> 00:16:14,560 Speaker 2: were some moments on set that were really funny, where 349 00:16:14,560 --> 00:16:16,680 Speaker 2: like I had come up with like a new funny 350 00:16:16,680 --> 00:16:18,920 Speaker 2: line reading that was maybe not something I would have 351 00:16:18,920 --> 00:16:21,200 Speaker 2: thought of when I was younger as the original Phoebe, 352 00:16:21,560 --> 00:16:23,800 Speaker 2: and Jed Spingarn, our show's creator, would come up to 353 00:16:23,800 --> 00:16:26,040 Speaker 2: me and he'd be like, Kia, that was really funny. 354 00:16:26,440 --> 00:16:27,960 Speaker 2: I need you to do this one like fifteen year 355 00:16:28,000 --> 00:16:31,120 Speaker 2: old Phoebe. And I'd be like, oh really, and then 356 00:16:31,120 --> 00:16:32,840 Speaker 2: I would do it, and then I would go, damn, 357 00:16:32,920 --> 00:16:34,600 Speaker 2: you were right. And those are my favorite parts of 358 00:16:34,600 --> 00:16:37,160 Speaker 2: the movie, the ones where I'm just like Max, just 359 00:16:37,200 --> 00:16:38,320 Speaker 2: like being fifteen again. 360 00:16:38,760 --> 00:16:39,080 Speaker 1: Yeah. 361 00:16:39,240 --> 00:16:41,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, my little moments of like, oh, you gotta be 362 00:16:41,280 --> 00:16:43,400 Speaker 2: kidding me, you know, it's just like there's Boebe there 363 00:16:43,440 --> 00:16:43,800 Speaker 2: she is. 364 00:16:44,680 --> 00:16:47,880 Speaker 1: I imagine that could come with a lot of self induced 365 00:16:47,920 --> 00:16:50,680 Speaker 1: pressure or anxiety, right because you, like you said, you 366 00:16:50,720 --> 00:16:53,160 Speaker 1: don't want to let any of the og fans down. 367 00:16:53,240 --> 00:16:56,360 Speaker 1: You want to honor what you created, but you've evolved 368 00:16:56,400 --> 00:16:59,000 Speaker 1: as a person. So was that something you kind of 369 00:16:59,000 --> 00:17:01,360 Speaker 1: had to grapple with like you have I guess a 370 00:17:01,360 --> 00:17:03,720 Speaker 1: little bit of fear stepping into this totally. 371 00:17:04,000 --> 00:17:07,560 Speaker 2: Yeah. Absolutely. I remember the night before the table read, 372 00:17:08,359 --> 00:17:10,880 Speaker 2: I read through the whole script with my dad, who 373 00:17:11,640 --> 00:17:13,840 Speaker 2: used to be my coach back in the days when 374 00:17:13,840 --> 00:17:15,960 Speaker 2: I was like first auditioning and doing comedy. You know, 375 00:17:16,000 --> 00:17:18,919 Speaker 2: he's so funny and he really understands that style of sitcom. 376 00:17:18,960 --> 00:17:22,000 Speaker 2: And he coached me for my audition for the original Thundermans, 377 00:17:22,000 --> 00:17:23,720 Speaker 2: and like he used to help me come up with 378 00:17:23,760 --> 00:17:25,520 Speaker 2: line readings before I went in. You know, he never 379 00:17:25,600 --> 00:17:28,520 Speaker 2: like overstepped on set or like gotten anyone's wired. Like 380 00:17:28,600 --> 00:17:30,400 Speaker 2: he was never a stage parent, but like he would 381 00:17:30,400 --> 00:17:32,400 Speaker 2: help me a lot backstate, like behind the scenes at 382 00:17:32,400 --> 00:17:35,159 Speaker 2: home when I was preparing and I was like, okay, Dad, 383 00:17:35,200 --> 00:17:37,480 Speaker 2: like let's pretend I'm sixteen again. I want to read 384 00:17:37,520 --> 00:17:39,720 Speaker 2: the script for you. Just tell me if I'm even 385 00:17:40,000 --> 00:17:42,720 Speaker 2: anywhere close, because I just I'm so scared that I'm 386 00:17:42,720 --> 00:17:44,520 Speaker 2: not doing good enough job. And I did the script 387 00:17:44,520 --> 00:17:46,960 Speaker 2: and he was like, you're so stupid. That was perfect. 388 00:17:47,040 --> 00:17:49,040 Speaker 2: That was perfect, Like you're Phoebe, like you got you 389 00:17:49,080 --> 00:17:51,880 Speaker 2: know what you're doing, Like stop worrying. That was hilarious 390 00:17:51,920 --> 00:17:53,960 Speaker 2: and he was laughing and I was like, Okay, I've 391 00:17:53,960 --> 00:17:56,760 Speaker 2: got Dad's stamp of approval. I know what I'm doing. 392 00:17:57,080 --> 00:17:59,560 Speaker 2: Now I can like be confident on set. But yeah, 393 00:17:59,560 --> 00:18:01,320 Speaker 2: it's scared, you know. It's also we used to do 394 00:18:01,359 --> 00:18:03,760 Speaker 2: a lot of live audiences, which are my favorite thing 395 00:18:03,800 --> 00:18:06,320 Speaker 2: in the world, because after you've been rehearsing an episode 396 00:18:06,359 --> 00:18:08,520 Speaker 2: all week, all the writers, all of the people and 397 00:18:08,560 --> 00:18:10,439 Speaker 2: said they've heard those jokes a million times and they 398 00:18:10,520 --> 00:18:12,840 Speaker 2: change a little bit throughout the week, but like they're 399 00:18:12,880 --> 00:18:15,480 Speaker 2: not actually funny to anyone watching in person by the 400 00:18:15,480 --> 00:18:17,919 Speaker 2: time you're filming, and so people aren't really laughing, and 401 00:18:18,160 --> 00:18:19,919 Speaker 2: you can get really insecure and you start to like 402 00:18:20,000 --> 00:18:22,840 Speaker 2: overact and overpush because you're like, why aren't people laughing? 403 00:18:22,880 --> 00:18:25,040 Speaker 2: Am I not funny anymore? And it's not. It's just 404 00:18:25,040 --> 00:18:27,200 Speaker 2: because people have heard it already. And on the movie, 405 00:18:27,240 --> 00:18:29,240 Speaker 2: we didn't have a live audience because of COVID. We 406 00:18:29,240 --> 00:18:32,120 Speaker 2: were in deep, deep COVID protocols, and so there were 407 00:18:32,119 --> 00:18:34,520 Speaker 2: definitely moments on set where I was like, is this 408 00:18:34,600 --> 00:18:37,760 Speaker 2: still funny? Like no one's laughing, And luckily I really 409 00:18:37,760 --> 00:18:39,920 Speaker 2: trust her our director Trevor, and I was able to 410 00:18:39,920 --> 00:18:42,359 Speaker 2: be like Trevor, like is this not funny or is 411 00:18:42,400 --> 00:18:43,760 Speaker 2: it just that people have heard it a million times? 412 00:18:43,760 --> 00:18:45,280 Speaker 2: It's like, nope, You're exactly as funny as you were 413 00:18:45,280 --> 00:18:46,399 Speaker 2: on day one. Just trust it. 414 00:18:46,480 --> 00:18:49,320 Speaker 1: And I was like, Okay, so interesting with what you 415 00:18:49,359 --> 00:18:51,880 Speaker 1: do because in a lot of other jobs you don't 416 00:18:51,920 --> 00:18:55,040 Speaker 1: have to seek the approval of a million people, right, 417 00:18:55,480 --> 00:18:59,640 Speaker 1: So true and for this a for acting, it's like, yeah, 418 00:18:59,720 --> 00:19:01,240 Speaker 1: you do you want people to find it funny and 419 00:19:01,320 --> 00:19:04,360 Speaker 1: charming and exhilarating, and it's like, how you don't let 420 00:19:04,400 --> 00:19:07,040 Speaker 1: that get in the way is just so impressive? 421 00:19:07,600 --> 00:19:10,760 Speaker 2: Think well, I mean I do. I It's something that 422 00:19:10,800 --> 00:19:13,240 Speaker 2: I constantly have to work against, is like worrying about 423 00:19:13,240 --> 00:19:14,560 Speaker 2: if people are going to like it as much as 424 00:19:14,600 --> 00:19:16,680 Speaker 2: I want them to. Like I said, it's one of 425 00:19:16,720 --> 00:19:19,159 Speaker 2: the reasons that I like comedy so much, because you know, 426 00:19:19,200 --> 00:19:21,320 Speaker 2: if someone thinks something's funny, it's right there in front. 427 00:19:21,520 --> 00:19:24,439 Speaker 2: And that's a really really great feeling one hundred percent. 428 00:19:24,520 --> 00:19:26,359 Speaker 1: And I know so many people are looking forward to 429 00:19:26,440 --> 00:19:30,359 Speaker 1: seeing you and Jack together again. How was reuniting? I mean, 430 00:19:30,400 --> 00:19:32,840 Speaker 1: your chemistry has always been so right on throughout all 431 00:19:32,840 --> 00:19:33,680 Speaker 1: the years. 432 00:19:35,320 --> 00:19:40,800 Speaker 2: Jack and I have a very storied relationship where, you know, 433 00:19:40,800 --> 00:19:43,000 Speaker 2: we knew each other before the show. We were just 434 00:19:43,080 --> 00:19:45,160 Speaker 2: kind of friends and acquaintances. We went to school together, 435 00:19:45,200 --> 00:19:46,760 Speaker 2: we were in acting school together. We were close, but 436 00:19:46,800 --> 00:19:49,040 Speaker 2: we knew each other. And then we booked the show, 437 00:19:49,320 --> 00:19:53,879 Speaker 2: and you know, we were each other's like kind of 438 00:19:53,920 --> 00:19:58,639 Speaker 2: only peer, our own age all day every day for 439 00:19:58,720 --> 00:20:02,240 Speaker 2: six years. Like we were on top of each other, 440 00:20:02,480 --> 00:20:04,560 Speaker 2: not like that, like we were like you know, in 441 00:20:04,600 --> 00:20:07,080 Speaker 2: a room together, having to work together all day every 442 00:20:07,160 --> 00:20:09,800 Speaker 2: day for many many years. And it wasn't always easy. 443 00:20:09,840 --> 00:20:13,600 Speaker 2: It was fraught at certain points throughout our adolescence, and 444 00:20:13,720 --> 00:20:16,080 Speaker 2: we were very different people and we didn't Sometimes we 445 00:20:16,080 --> 00:20:17,919 Speaker 2: had really great times together, and sometimes we had some 446 00:20:17,960 --> 00:20:21,040 Speaker 2: really hard times. And when the show ended, we just 447 00:20:21,119 --> 00:20:25,080 Speaker 2: really needed to like go our separate ways and become 448 00:20:25,680 --> 00:20:29,160 Speaker 2: adult people away from each other. And so we hadn't 449 00:20:29,160 --> 00:20:31,200 Speaker 2: spoken or seen each other in a really long time. 450 00:20:31,240 --> 00:20:35,560 Speaker 2: When the show came around and we got lunch, like 451 00:20:35,680 --> 00:20:38,679 Speaker 2: not too far out before, we kind of agreed to 452 00:20:38,720 --> 00:20:40,359 Speaker 2: like do the project. And once we had go to 453 00:20:40,400 --> 00:20:43,240 Speaker 2: set and kind of talked everything out and like got 454 00:20:43,240 --> 00:20:45,320 Speaker 2: back on the same page, and it took us a 455 00:20:45,400 --> 00:20:48,320 Speaker 2: minute to like kind of find each other again, and 456 00:20:48,359 --> 00:20:52,840 Speaker 2: then once we did, it was like, oh, that's my brother, 457 00:20:53,160 --> 00:20:56,120 Speaker 2: that's my sister, Like we're family. We will always be family. 458 00:20:56,200 --> 00:20:58,120 Speaker 2: Like we needed a minute to grow up and become 459 00:20:58,160 --> 00:21:01,080 Speaker 2: people before coming back together. So like, that's my brother 460 00:21:01,240 --> 00:21:04,040 Speaker 2: forever and ever. Literally, like I'm an only child except 461 00:21:04,080 --> 00:21:06,200 Speaker 2: for Jack is my brother, and he's the youngest of 462 00:21:06,240 --> 00:21:08,040 Speaker 2: all of his siblings by a lot, but like I 463 00:21:08,080 --> 00:21:10,879 Speaker 2: am his sister, like and it was really special, like 464 00:21:10,920 --> 00:21:14,600 Speaker 2: once we started acting together again, just remembering like what 465 00:21:14,680 --> 00:21:17,040 Speaker 2: a rapport we have, Like we really can reach other's 466 00:21:17,040 --> 00:21:19,280 Speaker 2: minds when it comes to like timing of jokes and 467 00:21:19,320 --> 00:21:22,159 Speaker 2: like I know how he's gonna throw something to me, 468 00:21:22,680 --> 00:21:24,359 Speaker 2: and how I'm gonna throw something at him, and like 469 00:21:24,960 --> 00:21:27,560 Speaker 2: we've just we did it for so long and we're 470 00:21:27,560 --> 00:21:29,280 Speaker 2: a good team when it comes to that stuff. So 471 00:21:29,280 --> 00:21:31,160 Speaker 2: it was really fun to get to do that again. 472 00:21:31,240 --> 00:21:33,280 Speaker 2: And now you know, we've been on a press tour 473 00:21:33,320 --> 00:21:35,280 Speaker 2: for the last couple of weeks, traveling the world together 474 00:21:35,320 --> 00:21:37,800 Speaker 2: again just like when we were kids, but this time, 475 00:21:37,840 --> 00:21:40,440 Speaker 2: instead of being kids with our parents, were traveling around 476 00:21:40,480 --> 00:21:42,600 Speaker 2: with my fiance, who he also loves, and we're all 477 00:21:42,640 --> 00:21:46,000 Speaker 2: like being adults and having a nice time. And it's 478 00:21:46,119 --> 00:21:48,160 Speaker 2: different but exactly the same. It's been. 479 00:21:48,200 --> 00:21:49,840 Speaker 1: Yeah, you have like one big family again. 480 00:21:50,040 --> 00:21:51,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's been really special. It's been a chance to 481 00:21:51,840 --> 00:21:54,320 Speaker 2: like kind of heal a really important relationship too, which 482 00:21:54,320 --> 00:21:54,840 Speaker 2: is nice. 483 00:21:54,880 --> 00:21:56,720 Speaker 1: And I think it's so cool that you are openly 484 00:21:56,760 --> 00:21:59,520 Speaker 1: speaking about that because many people went in they were 485 00:21:59,560 --> 00:22:01,640 Speaker 1: kind of high or tend like everything's always been okay 486 00:22:01,680 --> 00:22:03,679 Speaker 1: from day one, But that's just not the reality of 487 00:22:03,760 --> 00:22:06,040 Speaker 1: real human relationships. You go through things. 488 00:22:06,640 --> 00:22:08,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, I hit it for a while, but now that 489 00:22:08,600 --> 00:22:10,480 Speaker 2: things feel kind of resolved, I feel a little bit 490 00:22:10,480 --> 00:22:12,199 Speaker 2: safer talking about it. You know, he knows how I 491 00:22:12,240 --> 00:22:13,800 Speaker 2: feel about it, and I know how he feels about it, 492 00:22:13,840 --> 00:22:16,520 Speaker 2: and we've come to this really great place where we're 493 00:22:16,560 --> 00:22:18,440 Speaker 2: able to kind of go. You know, it wasn't always 494 00:22:18,440 --> 00:22:20,879 Speaker 2: smooth sailing, but now we're teammates again and we're really 495 00:22:21,200 --> 00:22:25,080 Speaker 2: happy and proud of that, and you know it's we're 496 00:22:25,119 --> 00:22:27,760 Speaker 2: like real brother and sister. I mean, that's what siblings do, right. 497 00:22:27,840 --> 00:22:31,120 Speaker 2: You go to phases where you're just not each other's 498 00:22:31,320 --> 00:22:33,959 Speaker 2: you don't fit, shouldn't be friends, and now we're at 499 00:22:33,960 --> 00:22:35,119 Speaker 2: a place in our life where I think we can 500 00:22:35,200 --> 00:22:36,280 Speaker 2: be again. So it's great. 501 00:22:36,440 --> 00:22:40,200 Speaker 1: What are you the absolute most excited about with this film? 502 00:22:40,240 --> 00:22:42,320 Speaker 1: Did you have a scene that you were like, I 503 00:22:42,400 --> 00:22:44,400 Speaker 1: freaking nailed that. I can't wait for people to see 504 00:22:44,440 --> 00:22:46,440 Speaker 1: it is at the ending, like, what are you most 505 00:22:46,480 --> 00:22:47,080 Speaker 1: thrilled about? 506 00:22:47,640 --> 00:22:52,040 Speaker 2: Great question. There was a scene on set that I 507 00:22:52,080 --> 00:22:55,439 Speaker 2: really loved filming funny enough, I talk all of this 508 00:22:56,080 --> 00:22:58,040 Speaker 2: big talk about love and comedy, and it was actually 509 00:22:58,040 --> 00:23:01,480 Speaker 2: the one kind of real dramatic moment, A couple dramatic moments. 510 00:23:01,520 --> 00:23:04,919 Speaker 2: They really gave us some a slightly freer rain to 511 00:23:05,160 --> 00:23:07,560 Speaker 2: have more grounded dramatic moments in this movie than we 512 00:23:07,640 --> 00:23:09,400 Speaker 2: used to on the original series, which was really nice 513 00:23:09,400 --> 00:23:11,440 Speaker 2: to have that freedom to like kind of sit into things. 514 00:23:12,000 --> 00:23:14,600 Speaker 2: But there's a scene where Max and Phoebe have kind 515 00:23:14,680 --> 00:23:17,840 Speaker 2: of a come to Jesus, for lack of a better term, 516 00:23:17,920 --> 00:23:20,520 Speaker 2: of like, this is why we've been behaving the way 517 00:23:20,560 --> 00:23:23,960 Speaker 2: we've been behaving. And it's something that they've done throughout 518 00:23:23,960 --> 00:23:25,960 Speaker 2: the series a few times, like they come together and 519 00:23:25,960 --> 00:23:27,920 Speaker 2: they have that It's very similar to that moment when 520 00:23:28,400 --> 00:23:30,480 Speaker 2: when Max is like, why do I want to be 521 00:23:30,520 --> 00:23:32,600 Speaker 2: a villain because you're the greatest hero? And I knew 522 00:23:32,600 --> 00:23:34,320 Speaker 2: I couldn't be the best hero, so if I couldn't 523 00:23:34,320 --> 00:23:35,920 Speaker 2: be the best hero, I might as well be a villain. 524 00:23:35,960 --> 00:23:37,480 Speaker 2: But they always made us play it with a little 525 00:23:37,480 --> 00:23:39,480 Speaker 2: bit of comedy, and this time around we got to 526 00:23:39,480 --> 00:23:41,480 Speaker 2: really sit into it. So I remember feeling really proud 527 00:23:41,480 --> 00:23:42,879 Speaker 2: of the way we did that scene on set. I 528 00:23:42,920 --> 00:23:45,240 Speaker 2: remember getting off set and Jed spin garn Our creator, 529 00:23:45,280 --> 00:23:47,880 Speaker 2: going there were some good acting on that screen just now, 530 00:23:47,880 --> 00:23:48,960 Speaker 2: and I was like, thank you. 531 00:23:56,160 --> 00:23:58,080 Speaker 1: I don't know, might there be room for more of 532 00:23:58,119 --> 00:23:58,960 Speaker 1: the Thunderman's. 533 00:24:00,280 --> 00:24:03,640 Speaker 2: You know, everyone's asking for it. All of the comments 534 00:24:03,640 --> 00:24:05,480 Speaker 2: that I see are like, cool, thanks for the movie. 535 00:24:05,520 --> 00:24:08,639 Speaker 2: Can we get three more seasons? And I would love to. 536 00:24:09,080 --> 00:24:12,520 Speaker 2: I know Jack would love to. I know that the 537 00:24:12,520 --> 00:24:15,040 Speaker 2: fans want it, so I would love that. I mean, 538 00:24:15,080 --> 00:24:17,200 Speaker 2: if this movie does well that it really all hindes 539 00:24:17,200 --> 00:24:18,600 Speaker 2: on whether or not this movie does well. So if 540 00:24:18,640 --> 00:24:21,119 Speaker 2: you want more Thunderman's, the way you can make that 541 00:24:21,160 --> 00:24:23,119 Speaker 2: happen is to watch this movie and tell all of 542 00:24:23,160 --> 00:24:24,840 Speaker 2: your friends and make a lot of noise about it, 543 00:24:24,840 --> 00:24:27,800 Speaker 2: because yeah, we would love to fingers crossed. 544 00:24:28,080 --> 00:24:30,000 Speaker 1: Well, I have a feeling there might just be some 545 00:24:30,040 --> 00:24:32,640 Speaker 1: more coming because I already see people going crazy over 546 00:24:32,680 --> 00:24:34,439 Speaker 1: this and wanting it and so exciting. And that's what 547 00:24:34,440 --> 00:24:37,440 Speaker 1: I love about this. It's it gives people a glimmer 548 00:24:37,480 --> 00:24:40,480 Speaker 1: of hope and excitement during tricky times in our world. 549 00:24:40,640 --> 00:24:42,960 Speaker 1: And I just think when movies and art like this 550 00:24:43,119 --> 00:24:45,960 Speaker 1: can do that and bring people together, why not make more? 551 00:24:46,400 --> 00:24:48,879 Speaker 2: Yeah? No, totally. Anything we can do to make people 552 00:24:48,880 --> 00:24:52,160 Speaker 2: smile is always worthwhile. I mean not to rhyme, damn bar, 553 00:24:52,400 --> 00:24:52,560 Speaker 2: I know. 554 00:24:52,560 --> 00:24:54,480 Speaker 1: I was like, wait a minute, that's very okay, songwriter. 555 00:24:54,600 --> 00:24:57,600 Speaker 1: I see what you're doing, right, I see what you're doing. 556 00:24:57,680 --> 00:24:59,880 Speaker 1: How do you You've been working pretty much your whole 557 00:24:59,880 --> 00:25:02,120 Speaker 1: lif I mean since you were a kid, right, and 558 00:25:02,200 --> 00:25:04,720 Speaker 1: it's a very yeah. I mean, it's a very tough industry. 559 00:25:04,760 --> 00:25:07,360 Speaker 1: It's very demanding. You thought you would quit it one day, 560 00:25:07,480 --> 00:25:10,200 Speaker 1: You've pivoted to other areas of the business. You've done 561 00:25:10,240 --> 00:25:14,200 Speaker 1: quite a lot. So how do you protect your peace 562 00:25:14,320 --> 00:25:16,639 Speaker 1: during all of that going on? 563 00:25:17,200 --> 00:25:19,920 Speaker 2: The biggest thing is the people on my home team, 564 00:25:20,240 --> 00:25:24,080 Speaker 2: you know, my partner, my family, my best friends. Like 565 00:25:24,240 --> 00:25:27,320 Speaker 2: they are I don't mean this in like a narcissistic way, 566 00:25:27,359 --> 00:25:29,640 Speaker 2: but they are team Kira, Like they keep the real 567 00:25:29,720 --> 00:25:34,840 Speaker 2: Kira afloat, and they're wonderful and hobbies. Not that I 568 00:25:34,880 --> 00:25:36,480 Speaker 2: have a lot of time to use to do them 569 00:25:36,600 --> 00:25:38,359 Speaker 2: one and as busy as I am right now, but 570 00:25:38,440 --> 00:25:41,240 Speaker 2: like you know, when I get home from filming all 571 00:25:41,320 --> 00:25:44,840 Speaker 2: day and I can run home, rip off my fake eyelashes, 572 00:25:44,880 --> 00:25:46,280 Speaker 2: throw my hair up in a bun, and put on 573 00:25:46,320 --> 00:25:49,719 Speaker 2: some clay covered clothes and run to the studio and 574 00:25:49,760 --> 00:25:52,000 Speaker 2: like do some pottery for a couple of hours and 575 00:25:52,040 --> 00:25:54,040 Speaker 2: just like get my hands in the mud. Or I 576 00:25:54,080 --> 00:25:58,080 Speaker 2: can like come home and like crochet a sweater and 577 00:25:58,480 --> 00:26:01,520 Speaker 2: watch TV, or like play a video game or like 578 00:26:02,240 --> 00:26:04,760 Speaker 2: you know, any of my hobbies, like read a cookbook. 579 00:26:04,840 --> 00:26:07,440 Speaker 2: Like it just immediately takes everything that I did in 580 00:26:07,480 --> 00:26:09,000 Speaker 2: the day and puts in a different part of my brain. 581 00:26:09,040 --> 00:26:11,040 Speaker 2: And now I get to be just like real person Kira. 582 00:26:11,359 --> 00:26:14,440 Speaker 2: And that's really valuable, And that's that's one of those 583 00:26:14,440 --> 00:26:17,280 Speaker 2: things that I really didn't have when the show ended. 584 00:26:17,480 --> 00:26:20,719 Speaker 2: I didn't even really have until fairly recently. But you know, 585 00:26:20,800 --> 00:26:22,800 Speaker 2: all of those like real life human things are really 586 00:26:22,880 --> 00:26:25,680 Speaker 2: important to have to bolster against all of the like 587 00:26:26,080 --> 00:26:27,560 Speaker 2: weirdness that is Hollywood. 588 00:26:27,960 --> 00:26:30,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, for sure. And it's very grounding and you seem 589 00:26:30,080 --> 00:26:31,720 Speaker 1: like you're in a very grounded place. 590 00:26:32,200 --> 00:26:34,680 Speaker 2: And I'm literally sitting on the ground, So you're not wrong. 591 00:26:36,440 --> 00:26:38,440 Speaker 1: Are you barefoot too? Like feet on the ground too. 592 00:26:38,480 --> 00:26:41,080 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I'm sitting on a pillow from my couch 593 00:26:41,080 --> 00:26:43,080 Speaker 2: that you just saw me take a second ago. My 594 00:26:43,440 --> 00:26:45,640 Speaker 2: stuffed animal is watching me like I'm having a great time. 595 00:26:47,359 --> 00:26:49,840 Speaker 1: That's incredible. No, I love that. I love that about 596 00:26:49,840 --> 00:26:51,359 Speaker 1: you is you do seem like you're in a really 597 00:26:51,880 --> 00:26:53,920 Speaker 1: self assured place. And I know that takes work and 598 00:26:53,960 --> 00:26:56,120 Speaker 1: it takes time and it takes years, and it's not 599 00:26:56,200 --> 00:26:58,800 Speaker 1: just like oooh fun there. It really does take work. 600 00:26:58,840 --> 00:27:03,080 Speaker 1: But I like being artists and humans in that space 601 00:27:03,119 --> 00:27:06,920 Speaker 1: because so many aren't. Is there something through doing this 602 00:27:07,080 --> 00:27:11,879 Speaker 1: movie that you learned about yourself and a new lesson 603 00:27:11,960 --> 00:27:14,399 Speaker 1: maybe about who you are or where you want to 604 00:27:14,440 --> 00:27:15,880 Speaker 1: go or what you want to do anything. 605 00:27:16,440 --> 00:27:18,119 Speaker 2: Yeah? Well, I mean, like I said, I had a 606 00:27:18,160 --> 00:27:21,119 Speaker 2: really fragmented sense of self for a long time because 607 00:27:21,200 --> 00:27:22,960 Speaker 2: you know, I was trying to be a musician and 608 00:27:23,040 --> 00:27:25,879 Speaker 2: I was trying to make people forget about Thunderman's and 609 00:27:25,920 --> 00:27:28,160 Speaker 2: kind of always feeling like it was like a roadblock 610 00:27:28,200 --> 00:27:30,320 Speaker 2: to my success in a weird way. I had a 611 00:27:30,320 --> 00:27:33,359 Speaker 2: complicated relationship with the music industry too. I love music, 612 00:27:33,520 --> 00:27:35,760 Speaker 2: I love singing, I love making music, but the music 613 00:27:35,800 --> 00:27:39,240 Speaker 2: business is, like it sucks, let's be real. But I 614 00:27:39,280 --> 00:27:42,159 Speaker 2: had kind of not let myself let Thundermans feel like 615 00:27:42,160 --> 00:27:44,679 Speaker 2: a part of me, and I felt a little bit 616 00:27:44,680 --> 00:27:46,200 Speaker 2: like a fraud. I always felt like an outsider. I 617 00:27:46,200 --> 00:27:47,920 Speaker 2: alway felt like an outsider in music. I always felt 618 00:27:47,920 --> 00:27:50,920 Speaker 2: like an outsider in the acting business because I had 619 00:27:50,920 --> 00:27:53,080 Speaker 2: been on a sitcom and wasn't acting anymore. I felt 620 00:27:53,119 --> 00:27:55,399 Speaker 2: like an outsider as a digital creator because I felt 621 00:27:55,400 --> 00:27:57,720 Speaker 2: like my success was not because of the hard work 622 00:27:57,760 --> 00:27:59,680 Speaker 2: I put in, but because of the show that I 623 00:27:59,760 --> 00:28:01,439 Speaker 2: used to be like. I just always felt like I 624 00:28:01,480 --> 00:28:03,800 Speaker 2: just didn't let myself take credit for anything. And I 625 00:28:03,800 --> 00:28:06,760 Speaker 2: think doing this show allowed me to like reintegrate that 626 00:28:06,800 --> 00:28:08,879 Speaker 2: whole part of my personality and be like, oh no, 627 00:28:09,600 --> 00:28:12,280 Speaker 2: I was on television on a show that people liked 628 00:28:12,520 --> 00:28:15,240 Speaker 2: for eleven years, Like I'm allowed to be proud of 629 00:28:15,280 --> 00:28:18,399 Speaker 2: that I've done something in my life at at twenty 630 00:28:18,400 --> 00:28:20,960 Speaker 2: six years old, Like, just because my music career didn't 631 00:28:21,000 --> 00:28:22,760 Speaker 2: go where I thought it was going to go doesn't 632 00:28:22,800 --> 00:28:25,280 Speaker 2: mean that, like I'm not a successful person. And I 633 00:28:25,560 --> 00:28:27,520 Speaker 2: got a lot of to like blean a lot of 634 00:28:27,560 --> 00:28:29,960 Speaker 2: confidence from that, And in terms of where I want 635 00:28:29,960 --> 00:28:33,000 Speaker 2: to go next, I was reminded how much I love 636 00:28:33,080 --> 00:28:35,160 Speaker 2: this art form and how much I love like multiicam 637 00:28:35,240 --> 00:28:39,080 Speaker 2: sitcom that's kind of a dying genre outside of children's television, 638 00:28:39,440 --> 00:28:41,240 Speaker 2: and remind me like how much I really like behind 639 00:28:41,240 --> 00:28:43,640 Speaker 2: the scenes. I love working as an executive producer. I 640 00:28:43,720 --> 00:28:46,720 Speaker 2: really want to direct in the next like several months. 641 00:28:46,720 --> 00:28:49,760 Speaker 2: That's like really big on my list. And doing all 642 00:28:49,760 --> 00:28:51,520 Speaker 2: of the marketing and the behind the scenes stuff for 643 00:28:51,600 --> 00:28:54,600 Speaker 2: the movie has reminded me the passion and skill that 644 00:28:54,640 --> 00:28:56,520 Speaker 2: I have as a digital creator, which is really fun 645 00:28:56,880 --> 00:28:58,760 Speaker 2: and I'm like leaning into that more and I'm developing 646 00:28:58,800 --> 00:29:00,920 Speaker 2: a digital series that go into production in a couple 647 00:29:00,960 --> 00:29:03,840 Speaker 2: of months. Like It's been great. The show really kind 648 00:29:03,840 --> 00:29:05,640 Speaker 2: of changed my life. It tied up a lot of 649 00:29:05,640 --> 00:29:07,600 Speaker 2: loose ends and it brought a lot of things full 650 00:29:07,600 --> 00:29:10,680 Speaker 2: circle and I feel like myself again for the first 651 00:29:10,720 --> 00:29:13,960 Speaker 2: time in many, many many years, and like a confident 652 00:29:14,000 --> 00:29:16,200 Speaker 2: person again for the first time in many, many, many years. 653 00:29:16,280 --> 00:29:19,800 Speaker 2: So I'm excited to see, like what this next year brings. 654 00:29:19,800 --> 00:29:22,680 Speaker 2: If it's more Thunderman's than great. If this is a 655 00:29:22,680 --> 00:29:24,480 Speaker 2: one off and it's just this movie, then I'll take 656 00:29:24,520 --> 00:29:27,800 Speaker 2: those things that I learned and bring them into another avenue. 657 00:29:27,920 --> 00:29:29,840 Speaker 2: But I'm definitely in a very different place than I 658 00:29:29,920 --> 00:29:31,479 Speaker 2: was before this movie happened, and a lot of it 659 00:29:31,520 --> 00:29:32,960 Speaker 2: is definitely because of this movie. 660 00:29:33,080 --> 00:29:35,480 Speaker 1: That's what I love about life in general. It's so 661 00:29:35,560 --> 00:29:37,760 Speaker 1: fascinating that the one thing you were trying to push 662 00:29:37,800 --> 00:29:40,560 Speaker 1: away and not be affiliated with because of what you 663 00:29:40,640 --> 00:29:44,600 Speaker 1: thought maybe society or others perceived. Being tied to that 664 00:29:44,640 --> 00:29:47,960 Speaker 1: project means is now the one thing that has brought 665 00:29:47,960 --> 00:29:51,080 Speaker 1: you so much joy and is opening other doors because 666 00:29:51,120 --> 00:29:53,920 Speaker 1: you're executive producing and you want to direct, and it's 667 00:29:54,040 --> 00:29:57,440 Speaker 1: just this beautiful, full circle moment where you never know 668 00:29:57,800 --> 00:29:59,800 Speaker 1: where life's going to take you, and if you allow 669 00:29:59,840 --> 00:30:02,400 Speaker 1: your to listen to the voice in your head, that 670 00:30:02,400 --> 00:30:03,880 Speaker 1: little voice that was saying, you know what, let me 671 00:30:03,880 --> 00:30:05,240 Speaker 1: get back into it, let me try it, let me 672 00:30:05,240 --> 00:30:07,720 Speaker 1: do the movie. Look where you can end up. 673 00:30:08,280 --> 00:30:10,720 Speaker 2: Yeah, if I have one piece of sort of advice 674 00:30:10,840 --> 00:30:13,640 Speaker 2: to give, it's that you know, we all have a 675 00:30:13,680 --> 00:30:16,880 Speaker 2: lot of inner voices speaking to us. It can be 676 00:30:16,960 --> 00:30:20,040 Speaker 2: really hard to know what's your voice and what's a 677 00:30:20,120 --> 00:30:22,760 Speaker 2: voice that was planted by somebody else. And so anytime 678 00:30:22,800 --> 00:30:25,680 Speaker 2: you have kind of an intense, like gut feeling or thought, 679 00:30:25,720 --> 00:30:27,680 Speaker 2: it can be really helpful to try to trace back, 680 00:30:27,800 --> 00:30:30,760 Speaker 2: like is that my voice or is that the voice 681 00:30:30,760 --> 00:30:32,440 Speaker 2: of someone who was mean to me or someone who 682 00:30:32,440 --> 00:30:35,120 Speaker 2: made me insecure? And the other thing is that a 683 00:30:35,120 --> 00:30:38,200 Speaker 2: lot of times the voice in your head saying no, no, 684 00:30:38,200 --> 00:30:41,880 Speaker 2: no is or this needs to happen is fear based, 685 00:30:42,240 --> 00:30:44,640 Speaker 2: and that's anxiety. And that's the voice that you need 686 00:30:44,680 --> 00:30:47,120 Speaker 2: to shut up, which is something we hear a lot, 687 00:30:47,200 --> 00:30:49,520 Speaker 2: like you know your fear is wrong, don't listen. But 688 00:30:49,720 --> 00:30:54,120 Speaker 2: sometimes that voice yelling at you is your intuition. And 689 00:30:54,200 --> 00:30:56,600 Speaker 2: I think if you can learn the difference between your 690 00:30:56,640 --> 00:31:00,720 Speaker 2: anxiety and your intuition, you can be a superhero. Hundred 691 00:31:00,800 --> 00:31:03,000 Speaker 2: percent there yet, But it feels like the biggest thing 692 00:31:03,040 --> 00:31:05,600 Speaker 2: that I'm trying to achieve this year is to be 693 00:31:05,640 --> 00:31:07,479 Speaker 2: able to learn the difference between those voices. 694 00:31:08,040 --> 00:31:10,840 Speaker 1: Yes, yes, yes, this is why I love this show 695 00:31:10,880 --> 00:31:13,520 Speaker 1: so much because I'm sitting here thinking I personally have 696 00:31:13,720 --> 00:31:16,560 Speaker 1: leaned into things or not leaned into things because of 697 00:31:16,920 --> 00:31:19,280 Speaker 1: how I thought others may or may not perceive it. 698 00:31:19,440 --> 00:31:22,360 Speaker 1: And that's something that I've worked really hard on over 699 00:31:22,360 --> 00:31:24,440 Speaker 1: the last couple of years, and it's it's easier so 700 00:31:24,560 --> 00:31:28,080 Speaker 1: than done. But thank you for that reminder because it's 701 00:31:28,120 --> 00:31:33,320 Speaker 1: so important. It is so important. I need a minute. 702 00:31:33,600 --> 00:31:37,600 Speaker 1: That was like, that's just like I can't even because 703 00:31:38,160 --> 00:31:39,680 Speaker 1: you need to hear it every once in a while, 704 00:31:39,720 --> 00:31:42,400 Speaker 1: you honestly do, and and I'm so happy you just 705 00:31:42,400 --> 00:31:43,680 Speaker 1: said that. I don't know why I'm getting kind of 706 00:31:43,680 --> 00:31:45,520 Speaker 1: emotional because I feel like we all go through that 707 00:31:45,600 --> 00:31:48,240 Speaker 1: and it's just important thing to hear again. 708 00:31:48,720 --> 00:31:50,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean life is just like a series of 709 00:31:50,840 --> 00:31:54,240 Speaker 2: scary decisions. Yeah that nobody else can really tell you 710 00:31:54,240 --> 00:31:57,040 Speaker 2: what's right for you except for you, and sometimes that's 711 00:31:57,080 --> 00:31:58,840 Speaker 2: the hardest thing in the world. And so anything that 712 00:31:58,880 --> 00:32:01,400 Speaker 2: can make that decision make cross a little easier inside 713 00:32:01,400 --> 00:32:03,520 Speaker 2: your own head as a lifesaver, I. 714 00:32:03,480 --> 00:32:05,360 Speaker 1: Think your character Phoebe is rubbing off on you because 715 00:32:05,360 --> 00:32:07,680 Speaker 1: you're giving some superhero advice up in here today. 716 00:32:08,240 --> 00:32:08,840 Speaker 2: You're sweet. 717 00:32:08,840 --> 00:32:12,520 Speaker 1: Thank you, and Kierra to wrap things up. The show 718 00:32:12,600 --> 00:32:14,720 Speaker 1: is called I've never said this before, and you've been 719 00:32:14,720 --> 00:32:17,680 Speaker 1: so gracious and open all throughout this interview, but I'm wondering, 720 00:32:17,720 --> 00:32:20,880 Speaker 1: is there anything else that comes to mind for something 721 00:32:20,920 --> 00:32:22,640 Speaker 1: you haven't necessarily said before. 722 00:32:23,440 --> 00:32:25,880 Speaker 2: You know, it's a really hard question. I really have 723 00:32:26,040 --> 00:32:30,120 Speaker 2: made a conscious effort in the last several years to 724 00:32:30,280 --> 00:32:34,440 Speaker 2: say the things that are important to me and that 725 00:32:34,560 --> 00:32:37,200 Speaker 2: I feel strongly that I want people to hear. So 726 00:32:37,520 --> 00:32:40,080 Speaker 2: there's really not a lot of things that I have 727 00:32:40,280 --> 00:32:43,040 Speaker 2: never said. There's things that I've said that I think 728 00:32:43,080 --> 00:32:45,959 Speaker 2: bear repeating, Like I think the best thing you can 729 00:32:46,000 --> 00:32:48,360 Speaker 2: be in this life is to be curious and be 730 00:32:48,480 --> 00:32:53,920 Speaker 2: inquisitive and follow your curiosity and enjoy learning, because it's 731 00:32:54,000 --> 00:32:57,440 Speaker 2: like the best thing about being a human being in 732 00:32:57,480 --> 00:33:01,800 Speaker 2: this world. I've said it before, but maybe I've never 733 00:33:01,840 --> 00:33:04,280 Speaker 2: said it this publicly. Pineapple on pizza is good and 734 00:33:04,320 --> 00:33:04,800 Speaker 2: you're all. 735 00:33:04,640 --> 00:33:08,120 Speaker 1: Just cowards fighting words, fighting words. 736 00:33:08,120 --> 00:33:10,680 Speaker 2: It's a very If you really want a hot click 737 00:33:10,760 --> 00:33:14,080 Speaker 2: baity title for this interview, there you go. You don't 738 00:33:14,080 --> 00:33:15,720 Speaker 2: actually use that as the title. I will get death. 739 00:33:16,000 --> 00:33:19,400 Speaker 1: People are no. It's a very passionate debate. 740 00:33:19,840 --> 00:33:22,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's very intense listen. Pineapple is sweet and acidic, 741 00:33:22,760 --> 00:33:24,840 Speaker 2: just like tomatoes. What could be wrong? You get them 742 00:33:24,880 --> 00:33:27,120 Speaker 2: on a grill, you get a little caramelized texture. It's 743 00:33:27,160 --> 00:33:29,800 Speaker 2: just like having caramelized onions. You get a little brightness 744 00:33:29,800 --> 00:33:33,240 Speaker 2: to offset anything needy. A little hot honey suppersada with 745 00:33:33,280 --> 00:33:35,920 Speaker 2: some bits of pineapple on there. What could be bad? 746 00:33:36,720 --> 00:33:38,200 Speaker 1: You've thought about this one before. 747 00:33:38,720 --> 00:33:40,600 Speaker 2: We eat a lot of pizza. 748 00:33:41,160 --> 00:33:43,240 Speaker 1: Amazing. Well, I think you've just swayed a lot of 749 00:33:43,240 --> 00:33:44,720 Speaker 1: people who are on the fence. So there you go. 750 00:33:44,760 --> 00:33:47,120 Speaker 1: If anything comes from this whole interview, you are changing 751 00:33:47,120 --> 00:33:48,320 Speaker 1: the way people view pizza. 752 00:33:48,760 --> 00:33:52,320 Speaker 2: Ignore everything else about how to become a fulfilled human being? 753 00:33:52,400 --> 00:33:56,760 Speaker 1: All I love every time we get to chat. Thank 754 00:33:56,800 --> 00:33:59,760 Speaker 1: you for joining the show. Remind everybody what the movie is. 755 00:33:59,800 --> 00:34:01,280 Speaker 1: Where to watch all the things. 756 00:34:01,520 --> 00:34:04,720 Speaker 2: The movie is The Thunderman's Return. It is on Paramount 757 00:34:04,720 --> 00:34:08,800 Speaker 2: Plus for streaming. It also aired as premiere on Nickelodeon. 758 00:34:08,840 --> 00:34:11,560 Speaker 2: And I'm sure we'll be continuing in repeats there. I 759 00:34:11,600 --> 00:34:16,440 Speaker 2: am on the internet everywhere at Curacosser, in Instagram, Twitter, Snapchat, TikTok, 760 00:34:16,480 --> 00:34:18,520 Speaker 2: all the fun quarters of the internet you can find 761 00:34:18,520 --> 00:34:21,720 Speaker 2: me in and yeah, I'll have some more things to announce, 762 00:34:21,760 --> 00:34:24,160 Speaker 2: hopefully soon that I can't talk about yet, but it's 763 00:34:24,200 --> 00:34:25,120 Speaker 2: exciting times. 764 00:34:25,280 --> 00:34:27,799 Speaker 1: Well, we look forward to all the things that Thank you, 765 00:34:27,880 --> 00:34:30,600 Speaker 1: as always for everything. This was such a fun conversation. 766 00:34:30,719 --> 00:34:32,080 Speaker 1: I really really enjoyed it. 767 00:34:32,280 --> 00:34:34,200 Speaker 2: Thanks Tommy. 768 00:34:35,440 --> 00:34:39,000 Speaker 1: I've Never Said This Before is hosted by Me, Tommy Diderio. 769 00:34:39,680 --> 00:34:43,920 Speaker 1: This podcast is executive produced by Andrew Puglisi at iHeartRadio 770 00:34:44,040 --> 00:34:48,359 Speaker 1: and by me Tommy, with editing by Joshua Colaudney. I've 771 00:34:48,400 --> 00:34:50,840 Speaker 1: Never Said This Before is part of the Elvis Duram 772 00:34:50,880 --> 00:34:55,160 Speaker 1: podcast Network on iHeart Podcasts. For more, rate review and 773 00:34:55,239 --> 00:34:58,160 Speaker 1: subscribe to our show and if you liked this episode, 774 00:34:58,360 --> 00:35:01,720 Speaker 1: tell your friends. Until next time, I'm Tommy di Dario, 775 00:35:13,120 --> 00:35:13,239 Speaker 1: Hm