1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:04,240 Speaker 1: I'm the Douvall and this is Conversations with the podcast. 2 00:00:05,240 --> 00:00:08,879 Speaker 1: Today's guest is known for his online pranks, comedy sketches, 3 00:00:09,000 --> 00:00:10,240 Speaker 1: and dryass interviews. 4 00:00:10,440 --> 00:00:11,800 Speaker 2: Let's welcome Funny Marco. 5 00:00:13,119 --> 00:00:16,560 Speaker 1: Well, they got me in y'all world, now, you know, 6 00:00:16,720 --> 00:00:18,720 Speaker 1: but I think it was time for me to do it, 7 00:00:18,760 --> 00:00:21,000 Speaker 1: you know, but I had to put a twist on 8 00:00:21,079 --> 00:00:24,040 Speaker 1: this shit like I'm doing. I'm more like your own 9 00:00:24,320 --> 00:00:26,040 Speaker 1: you know. That's what I'm gonna be. You can come 10 00:00:26,079 --> 00:00:27,680 Speaker 1: to me and talk to me about shit that you're 11 00:00:27,720 --> 00:00:31,000 Speaker 1: going through in life. Shit advice, you know what I'm saying, 12 00:00:31,040 --> 00:00:35,720 Speaker 1: And advice with anything, not just your career, but life advice, 13 00:00:35,960 --> 00:00:38,559 Speaker 1: you know. So that's what I'm here for. And this 14 00:00:38,680 --> 00:00:41,240 Speaker 1: show here, I got the man that's on the rise 15 00:00:41,320 --> 00:00:44,400 Speaker 1: doing his thing. He's been busting it open on that 16 00:00:44,479 --> 00:00:46,600 Speaker 1: social media and now you taking to the next level, 17 00:00:46,680 --> 00:00:48,240 Speaker 1: trying to get in that stand up lane. 18 00:00:49,159 --> 00:00:50,960 Speaker 2: Got my man fun in Marco. What's happing? 19 00:00:51,080 --> 00:00:51,880 Speaker 3: Innute? What's today? 20 00:00:52,360 --> 00:00:53,000 Speaker 2: What's up? Man? 21 00:00:53,320 --> 00:00:53,680 Speaker 3: Question? 22 00:00:54,120 --> 00:00:56,160 Speaker 4: I'm trying to drop the funny though. How do you 23 00:00:56,200 --> 00:00:58,000 Speaker 4: feel like that start? Because I've been in the. 24 00:00:58,320 --> 00:01:01,960 Speaker 1: Dog Just give yourself a chance to grow. You ain't 25 00:01:02,000 --> 00:01:05,840 Speaker 1: even people just knowing who funny Marco is. I know 26 00:01:05,920 --> 00:01:07,920 Speaker 1: you feel and I already know where you are in 27 00:01:07,959 --> 00:01:09,600 Speaker 1: your mind. You're like, all right, I'm t It's like 28 00:01:09,680 --> 00:01:10,639 Speaker 1: it's like doing a joke. 29 00:01:10,560 --> 00:01:11,240 Speaker 3: Thirty years old. 30 00:01:11,280 --> 00:01:13,959 Speaker 2: Though okay, I'm little, it's still a little Duva. 31 00:01:14,760 --> 00:01:16,360 Speaker 3: What is your real name? Love? 32 00:01:19,959 --> 00:01:22,679 Speaker 2: That's name. I used to go by my real name 33 00:01:22,680 --> 00:01:23,640 Speaker 2: and stand up Roland. 34 00:01:24,040 --> 00:01:26,120 Speaker 1: That was my name. Know, yeah, I mean that is 35 00:01:26,200 --> 00:01:28,240 Speaker 1: my name. I'm telling me, But I switched it to 36 00:01:28,280 --> 00:01:29,360 Speaker 1: represent for my city. 37 00:01:29,760 --> 00:01:30,399 Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying. 38 00:01:30,520 --> 00:01:33,759 Speaker 1: I got sometimes I couldn't represent, like sometimes I might 39 00:01:34,000 --> 00:01:35,920 Speaker 1: miss and don't say Duval in the interview. 40 00:01:36,200 --> 00:01:38,800 Speaker 3: I'm like, oh damn. So Duval stands for where are 41 00:01:38,800 --> 00:01:39,080 Speaker 3: you from? 42 00:01:39,240 --> 00:01:42,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, for where I'm from. So now what I did. 43 00:01:42,280 --> 00:01:44,039 Speaker 1: I put it in my name, So even if I 44 00:01:44,080 --> 00:01:46,520 Speaker 1: did didn't say it, they said it in my name. 45 00:01:46,640 --> 00:01:49,160 Speaker 1: So it gave people inspiration from my city. And I 46 00:01:49,160 --> 00:01:52,160 Speaker 1: look at duvaal now they say it everywhere. It's it's 47 00:01:52,200 --> 00:01:53,200 Speaker 1: all over the world. 48 00:01:53,440 --> 00:01:55,920 Speaker 3: But the real think that's your name. Though people that don't. 49 00:01:55,720 --> 00:01:58,240 Speaker 1: Know, they they but that's all the point of me 50 00:01:58,320 --> 00:02:01,080 Speaker 1: doing it. It wasn't for me. It was funny word 51 00:02:01,120 --> 00:02:03,040 Speaker 1: like I'm when you see me, I want you to 52 00:02:03,080 --> 00:02:04,560 Speaker 1: see duvau. 53 00:02:05,320 --> 00:02:10,200 Speaker 3: Couse of your license. No, nigga, Okay, So what's up man? 54 00:02:10,200 --> 00:02:12,000 Speaker 1: What's been going on with you? How your life and 55 00:02:12,120 --> 00:02:15,320 Speaker 1: going on? First and foremost, I don't want you to 56 00:02:15,320 --> 00:02:19,200 Speaker 1: be like the fun in Marco nigga, I really got 57 00:02:19,240 --> 00:02:21,320 Speaker 1: something to say. I want you to be what's your name, 58 00:02:21,320 --> 00:02:23,840 Speaker 1: what's your real name? I'm Marco Summers, Marco Smmer. I 59 00:02:23,880 --> 00:02:26,680 Speaker 1: want you to be Marco Summers like you talk to 60 00:02:26,680 --> 00:02:28,120 Speaker 1: me when you try to call me on the phone 61 00:02:28,160 --> 00:02:31,799 Speaker 1: and I just listen for five five minutes to hang up. Yeah, 62 00:02:31,919 --> 00:02:33,560 Speaker 1: you could talk to me now, this is your time 63 00:02:33,600 --> 00:02:36,160 Speaker 1: to talk to you boy, and asked me what you 64 00:02:36,200 --> 00:02:39,240 Speaker 1: want to ask me about life, about your career and everything. 65 00:02:39,320 --> 00:02:40,799 Speaker 3: So I'm from Kansas City, Missouri. 66 00:02:40,919 --> 00:02:41,280 Speaker 2: Okay. 67 00:02:42,600 --> 00:02:45,200 Speaker 4: I got into entertainment because I couldn't keep a guy 68 00:02:45,280 --> 00:02:49,800 Speaker 4: a job and it wasn't I was one of the 69 00:02:49,800 --> 00:02:52,280 Speaker 4: people that couldn't do the work, but my personality got 70 00:02:52,280 --> 00:02:56,680 Speaker 4: me to kept the job. So people, okay, they fucked 71 00:02:56,680 --> 00:02:59,160 Speaker 4: with me because my personality. But I was always on 72 00:02:59,200 --> 00:03:02,160 Speaker 4: the edge at every job. So then that's when my 73 00:03:02,320 --> 00:03:05,120 Speaker 4: last job was the water department. So that was the 74 00:03:05,160 --> 00:03:07,120 Speaker 4: top job that you can have for the city. I 75 00:03:07,120 --> 00:03:09,320 Speaker 4: was working for the city and I started doing social 76 00:03:09,360 --> 00:03:11,280 Speaker 4: media and there was jobs and I was reacting to 77 00:03:11,320 --> 00:03:12,960 Speaker 4: a lot of people videos, and. 78 00:03:12,880 --> 00:03:15,000 Speaker 3: He's using social media. I was no, No. 79 00:03:15,040 --> 00:03:17,160 Speaker 4: I was doing a lot of videos in the uniform 80 00:03:17,200 --> 00:03:20,000 Speaker 4: at work. They told me you can't do that. It 81 00:03:20,080 --> 00:03:21,560 Speaker 4: was like, either you're gonna quit or you're gonna do 82 00:03:21,600 --> 00:03:25,080 Speaker 4: social media, and it just so happened. I was like, 83 00:03:25,120 --> 00:03:26,920 Speaker 4: all right, I'm just gonna head quit. I gave up 84 00:03:27,000 --> 00:03:30,440 Speaker 4: my house and my car and I went and moved 85 00:03:30,480 --> 00:03:33,240 Speaker 4: back with my mama in Kansas City and Kasity. 86 00:03:33,320 --> 00:03:33,720 Speaker 2: Yeah. 87 00:03:33,800 --> 00:03:38,560 Speaker 3: Yeah, So with that, I just kept doing videos videos. 88 00:03:38,640 --> 00:03:41,240 Speaker 3: I didn't even see the money. This was two thousand 89 00:03:41,280 --> 00:03:42,360 Speaker 3: and eighteen. 90 00:03:45,480 --> 00:03:49,720 Speaker 2: It's been longer than that, so right, living my best. 91 00:03:50,800 --> 00:03:52,800 Speaker 3: Yeah that's yeah. Yeah, I actually did the You never 92 00:03:52,880 --> 00:03:54,240 Speaker 3: replied back to my stuff too. 93 00:03:54,280 --> 00:03:54,960 Speaker 2: I did the video. 94 00:03:55,440 --> 00:03:58,840 Speaker 4: I probably did. I probably didn't. I didn't say no, 95 00:03:59,000 --> 00:04:00,560 Speaker 4: And that's crazy that you did say that. Yeah, y, 96 00:04:00,680 --> 00:04:02,600 Speaker 4: because I sent you the video, I was doing videos 97 00:04:02,640 --> 00:04:04,840 Speaker 4: to it, and I blew your DM up because I. 98 00:04:04,840 --> 00:04:06,680 Speaker 3: Wanted to im be honest with you. I probably I'm 99 00:04:06,800 --> 00:04:07,800 Speaker 3: just go a lot of videos. 100 00:04:07,800 --> 00:04:09,680 Speaker 1: I'm be honest with I'm just starting to see you 101 00:04:09,760 --> 00:04:11,760 Speaker 1: be funny though, you know what I'm saying, because like 102 00:04:11,800 --> 00:04:13,080 Speaker 1: I probably didn't think it was funny. 103 00:04:13,160 --> 00:04:14,120 Speaker 3: Told me you didn't like Mevie. 104 00:04:14,120 --> 00:04:15,880 Speaker 4: First thing you said you don't like the ship I did. 105 00:04:15,960 --> 00:04:17,280 Speaker 4: You said you ain't really into that. 106 00:04:17,440 --> 00:04:21,360 Speaker 1: I ain't, still ain't, but I respect how you did 107 00:04:21,400 --> 00:04:23,360 Speaker 1: your thing and used it as a platform and took 108 00:04:23,360 --> 00:04:24,320 Speaker 1: it to another level. 109 00:04:24,880 --> 00:04:27,680 Speaker 3: Please tag do low right there? Please? 110 00:04:28,839 --> 00:04:34,640 Speaker 2: What year was that? This was twenty eighteen? 111 00:04:34,839 --> 00:04:38,160 Speaker 1: Yes, dude, look I said something back to you, hit up, 112 00:04:38,360 --> 00:04:39,080 Speaker 1: hit up Clay. 113 00:04:39,480 --> 00:04:41,159 Speaker 2: You know I said hit up Clay. 114 00:04:41,200 --> 00:04:46,720 Speaker 4: But I'm a real one though you you said it 115 00:04:46,720 --> 00:04:49,719 Speaker 4: was yo, but I was because I wanted you to. 116 00:04:50,520 --> 00:04:54,200 Speaker 1: I wanted I said hit up Clay. He did, so 117 00:04:54,440 --> 00:04:56,000 Speaker 1: ship ain't that's a good person to hit up. 118 00:04:56,040 --> 00:04:59,279 Speaker 4: Tell me when you told me hit up Clay twenty eighteen. 119 00:04:59,360 --> 00:05:03,080 Speaker 4: When I write you no, no, you hit me twenty nineteen. 120 00:05:03,120 --> 00:05:04,880 Speaker 4: It was a year, a. 121 00:05:04,960 --> 00:05:08,800 Speaker 3: Couple of months, a year. But I hit you back 122 00:05:09,120 --> 00:05:09,720 Speaker 3: two thousand. 123 00:05:09,800 --> 00:05:10,599 Speaker 2: But I hit you back. 124 00:05:10,680 --> 00:05:12,680 Speaker 3: I did I hit you back? 125 00:05:12,760 --> 00:05:12,960 Speaker 2: Yeah? 126 00:05:13,000 --> 00:05:17,000 Speaker 4: But listen August nine, twenty eighteen, you DM me back 127 00:05:17,040 --> 00:05:19,279 Speaker 4: February twenty two, twenty nineteen. 128 00:05:19,640 --> 00:05:24,440 Speaker 1: Okay, what's the point I kept it real talking to you? 129 00:05:24,520 --> 00:05:26,280 Speaker 1: How did I treat you like I didn't know you, 130 00:05:26,440 --> 00:05:29,480 Speaker 1: like a whole, like I didn't know you. I treat 131 00:05:29,560 --> 00:05:31,280 Speaker 1: like I didn't know you like he's supposed to treat 132 00:05:31,279 --> 00:05:32,240 Speaker 1: the person you don't know them. 133 00:05:32,279 --> 00:05:34,440 Speaker 2: You don't. Just like if somebody come and act like 134 00:05:34,480 --> 00:05:37,000 Speaker 2: they know you off top, they think it O nigga. 135 00:05:37,800 --> 00:05:41,160 Speaker 4: But you instantly show somebody love though, huh, you instantly 136 00:05:41,200 --> 00:05:44,360 Speaker 4: show somebody love somebody kind of overboard. 137 00:05:44,440 --> 00:05:47,320 Speaker 1: I try to show genuine love. I show it just 138 00:05:47,320 --> 00:05:49,200 Speaker 1: just if I feel it. I show it, Like even 139 00:05:49,240 --> 00:05:52,000 Speaker 1: when I post somebody, if they go viral, I want 140 00:05:52,040 --> 00:05:53,760 Speaker 1: them to go round and I move on. I don't 141 00:05:53,800 --> 00:05:55,640 Speaker 1: do it just to say, oh shit, I'm gonna do this. 142 00:05:55,760 --> 00:05:57,839 Speaker 1: I put them on this. I do it just out 143 00:05:57,839 --> 00:06:00,400 Speaker 1: of love and just for the universe. If I like it, 144 00:06:00,480 --> 00:06:02,560 Speaker 1: if I feel like something need to be put out 145 00:06:02,680 --> 00:06:04,080 Speaker 1: in the ecosystem, that's what I did. 146 00:06:04,279 --> 00:06:06,040 Speaker 4: So question all you real quick when they when your 147 00:06:06,040 --> 00:06:08,120 Speaker 4: Instagram was down? Did it bother you or you was 148 00:06:08,200 --> 00:06:10,120 Speaker 4: just fond without it? But it didn't bother me as 149 00:06:10,120 --> 00:06:13,640 Speaker 4: far as who I am they mess social media. 150 00:06:13,560 --> 00:06:16,280 Speaker 1: No, because I always had a backup plan to the 151 00:06:16,320 --> 00:06:18,880 Speaker 1: backup plan. I always know I'm kind of in y'all 152 00:06:18,960 --> 00:06:21,039 Speaker 1: DNA because I've been in this shit so long, so 153 00:06:21,600 --> 00:06:23,600 Speaker 1: kind of grandfather. Then y'all say, if y'all don't catch 154 00:06:23,600 --> 00:06:27,600 Speaker 1: me there, y'all don't catch me on Twitter, Facebook, Snapchat, TikTok. 155 00:06:27,839 --> 00:06:29,600 Speaker 2: Only thing with Instagram. It fucked me up. 156 00:06:29,920 --> 00:06:33,120 Speaker 1: I missed my hose in my DM, I couldn't get 157 00:06:33,160 --> 00:06:37,240 Speaker 1: to my hose, and that's the ship I hated the most. 158 00:06:37,520 --> 00:06:40,800 Speaker 1: But other than that, I really, I really wasn't tripping 159 00:06:40,839 --> 00:06:43,280 Speaker 1: off of it. I'd like to entertain people off of it. 160 00:06:43,400 --> 00:06:45,839 Speaker 1: I know, like I'm I'm really like a gateway for 161 00:06:45,880 --> 00:06:48,680 Speaker 1: our community a lot, and like I'm like the I'm 162 00:06:48,720 --> 00:06:51,040 Speaker 1: like the family member that everybody coming, whether they want 163 00:06:51,040 --> 00:06:53,760 Speaker 1: accepted that that's where everybody come, like the hub. And 164 00:06:54,240 --> 00:06:56,960 Speaker 1: at the same time, if it's gone, it fucks up 165 00:06:57,000 --> 00:06:58,760 Speaker 1: our whole equals it don't just fuck me up. 166 00:06:58,760 --> 00:07:01,160 Speaker 3: It fucked up all that people kne you was gonna. 167 00:07:01,240 --> 00:07:05,159 Speaker 1: It just sucks up our whole ecosystem as one, you 168 00:07:05,160 --> 00:07:07,919 Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. So that's the one it do 169 00:07:08,040 --> 00:07:10,760 Speaker 1: bothers as far as that, but as far as me personally. 170 00:07:12,040 --> 00:07:15,720 Speaker 4: So another question too, before me upcoming, I say, even 171 00:07:15,760 --> 00:07:19,400 Speaker 4: me upcoming comedians, when you're on tour, what about the 172 00:07:19,440 --> 00:07:21,760 Speaker 4: women do you feel like don't let it distract you 173 00:07:21,960 --> 00:07:24,000 Speaker 4: after the shows? You know what I'm saying, meet with 174 00:07:24,000 --> 00:07:25,040 Speaker 4: different women's what. 175 00:07:25,080 --> 00:07:27,200 Speaker 3: Do you feel like we should do? 176 00:07:27,360 --> 00:07:27,440 Speaker 2: Like? 177 00:07:27,480 --> 00:07:29,720 Speaker 3: Should you have a little fun, get it, taste all 178 00:07:29,760 --> 00:07:30,160 Speaker 3: them holes? 179 00:07:30,240 --> 00:07:31,880 Speaker 2: Just don't roll them? 180 00:07:31,920 --> 00:07:33,640 Speaker 3: But sometimes it could distract you though. 181 00:07:34,960 --> 00:07:37,280 Speaker 1: It can distract you if you're a weak week tend 182 00:07:37,280 --> 00:07:39,960 Speaker 1: to dick ass nigga, you tend to dick ass niggas. 183 00:07:40,040 --> 00:07:43,440 Speaker 4: No, no, no, no, I'm emotional, so I know I 184 00:07:43,480 --> 00:07:45,360 Speaker 4: don't really I'm emotional to too. 185 00:07:45,360 --> 00:07:47,160 Speaker 3: I want to be too, though, man. 186 00:07:47,200 --> 00:07:49,400 Speaker 1: But if you roll them holes, if you wrote anybody 187 00:07:49,480 --> 00:07:52,120 Speaker 1: more than two times, you're gonna want to fight them. 188 00:07:52,400 --> 00:07:54,360 Speaker 3: You're going to fighting. Thank god. 189 00:07:54,360 --> 00:07:57,920 Speaker 4: I ain't got that in me though, insecurity, like just 190 00:07:58,120 --> 00:08:00,360 Speaker 4: like Karen, But do you rolling? 191 00:08:01,160 --> 00:08:01,800 Speaker 3: I have before? 192 00:08:02,440 --> 00:08:02,480 Speaker 1: No? 193 00:08:02,640 --> 00:08:04,480 Speaker 2: Do you row random bitches? Though? 194 00:08:04,760 --> 00:08:04,920 Speaker 3: Nah? 195 00:08:05,080 --> 00:08:10,000 Speaker 4: I stopped when ship it's been it's been about it's 196 00:08:10,000 --> 00:08:15,640 Speaker 4: been about three four months all right now with the question, 197 00:08:16,240 --> 00:08:18,920 Speaker 4: so I started doing the videos so I'll stopped doing, 198 00:08:19,760 --> 00:08:24,320 Speaker 4: so I started doing the video. So the random thing 199 00:08:24,360 --> 00:08:28,480 Speaker 4: that happened to me is I remember on Thanksgiving, Oh no, 200 00:08:28,600 --> 00:08:31,480 Speaker 4: I went. I started doing rap lyrics on people in 201 00:08:31,520 --> 00:08:34,600 Speaker 4: the store. So I always wanted to do Walmart. What 202 00:08:34,760 --> 00:08:37,480 Speaker 4: made me start doing videos is I used to see 203 00:08:37,520 --> 00:08:39,640 Speaker 4: the people do the Whigs videos. No shade to them, 204 00:08:39,640 --> 00:08:41,679 Speaker 4: but it was just like people act how girls are, 205 00:08:41,679 --> 00:08:45,120 Speaker 4: and I'm like, okay, it was like, let me show 206 00:08:45,160 --> 00:08:47,560 Speaker 4: how niggas are. So I used to do the videos 207 00:08:47,559 --> 00:08:49,080 Speaker 4: in public where I used to go in public and 208 00:08:49,120 --> 00:08:51,480 Speaker 4: my girl catch me cheating and I was a cheating, 209 00:08:51,640 --> 00:08:53,560 Speaker 4: cheating ass nigga, but she bought on my clothes, so 210 00:08:53,600 --> 00:08:55,520 Speaker 4: she was like, give me my clothes bag. So I 211 00:08:55,640 --> 00:08:57,640 Speaker 4: was doing the ship like let me expose the nigga, 212 00:08:57,679 --> 00:08:59,720 Speaker 4: like let me show you how the niggas be instead 213 00:08:59,720 --> 00:09:01,800 Speaker 4: of how how the girls be because I'm not a female. 214 00:09:02,120 --> 00:09:03,840 Speaker 4: So I started doing that in public and they start 215 00:09:03,880 --> 00:09:07,120 Speaker 4: going viral. So even people like you shave and my 216 00:09:07,160 --> 00:09:09,560 Speaker 4: people were posting like he's dumb as hell. So then 217 00:09:09,600 --> 00:09:11,240 Speaker 4: I used to come and like tag me, hold. 218 00:09:11,040 --> 00:09:12,120 Speaker 2: On, you heard what you just said? 219 00:09:12,320 --> 00:09:14,800 Speaker 1: Yeah, even though I didn't reply to you and your 220 00:09:14,880 --> 00:09:17,560 Speaker 1: d m what I did. I still was posting you no, no, 221 00:09:17,600 --> 00:09:18,880 Speaker 1: but you know it was me. You was like dumb 222 00:09:18,920 --> 00:09:20,840 Speaker 1: ass nigga. You didn't know it because I thought. 223 00:09:20,640 --> 00:09:22,760 Speaker 3: It was real. But I posted you. You didn't give 224 00:09:22,800 --> 00:09:23,960 Speaker 3: a fuck. Yeah you was. 225 00:09:24,160 --> 00:09:25,800 Speaker 4: You was going hard on it like you was dumb 226 00:09:25,840 --> 00:09:29,000 Speaker 4: ass nigga like that. You know you were in the 227 00:09:29,120 --> 00:09:32,880 Speaker 4: videos in the video. Yeah, So the scenario was it. 228 00:09:33,000 --> 00:09:36,000 Speaker 4: So I did just what you wanted me to do, right, 229 00:09:36,559 --> 00:09:40,360 Speaker 4: But you didn't tagged me. No, I probably didn't. 230 00:09:40,679 --> 00:09:42,960 Speaker 3: Nobody knew it was me though nobody knew it was. 231 00:09:43,240 --> 00:09:45,800 Speaker 4: That's what made me switch to the Walmart ship because no, 232 00:09:45,880 --> 00:09:48,160 Speaker 4: but when I started doing the videos, nobody knew what 233 00:09:48,280 --> 00:09:50,600 Speaker 4: me and I was complaining about and my boys like, 234 00:09:50,640 --> 00:09:52,400 Speaker 4: why are you trying to do realistic videos and you 235 00:09:52,400 --> 00:09:55,599 Speaker 4: want people to tag you? It's gonna take away the realistics. 236 00:09:55,640 --> 00:09:57,280 Speaker 1: And that's what I used to I don't think a 237 00:09:57,280 --> 00:10:00,160 Speaker 1: lot of people, especially up and coming comedians, understand and 238 00:10:00,200 --> 00:10:00,920 Speaker 1: how that works. 239 00:10:01,080 --> 00:10:02,959 Speaker 2: And they wanting to get tagged for ship that. 240 00:10:03,000 --> 00:10:07,600 Speaker 1: Don't matter, you know what I'm saying, don't Honestly, you 241 00:10:07,640 --> 00:10:09,760 Speaker 1: don't really ever need to get tagged, you know what 242 00:10:09,800 --> 00:10:11,880 Speaker 1: I'm saying like, and when I don't tag people, it's 243 00:10:11,960 --> 00:10:14,160 Speaker 1: kind of on purpose to help you all, because I 244 00:10:14,200 --> 00:10:17,079 Speaker 1: know the people in the gumments they're gonna tag him. 245 00:10:17,080 --> 00:10:19,720 Speaker 1: Fun So because people don't like to be told to 246 00:10:19,720 --> 00:10:23,840 Speaker 1: follow somebody. They like to feel like they found you 247 00:10:23,840 --> 00:10:25,600 Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. So that's usually what I do. 248 00:10:25,640 --> 00:10:28,439 Speaker 1: But people they so thinking that the tag don't. 249 00:10:28,320 --> 00:10:29,240 Speaker 3: Change their life. 250 00:10:29,600 --> 00:10:31,600 Speaker 1: If I tag you, that means I really don't give 251 00:10:31,640 --> 00:10:34,839 Speaker 1: a fuck. But if like perfect example, my man j Ski, 252 00:10:35,200 --> 00:10:36,320 Speaker 1: I never tagged him. 253 00:10:36,440 --> 00:10:37,520 Speaker 3: I just found his page. 254 00:10:37,840 --> 00:10:40,120 Speaker 2: But everybody know this nigga, don't. 255 00:10:39,920 --> 00:10:42,200 Speaker 3: I just found his face. I'm like, we never tag him? 256 00:10:42,240 --> 00:10:44,760 Speaker 4: And then I want to, But don't everybody know they 257 00:10:44,880 --> 00:10:47,440 Speaker 4: know him more than more? You wonder where his page was. 258 00:10:47,559 --> 00:10:51,199 Speaker 4: That's the psychological as him. 259 00:10:51,280 --> 00:10:53,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, but that's the psychological thing of it, to make 260 00:10:53,640 --> 00:10:56,240 Speaker 1: you love this nigga, to love him who he is 261 00:10:56,440 --> 00:11:00,440 Speaker 1: and on your own course. I agree with that. I 262 00:11:00,480 --> 00:11:02,680 Speaker 1: don't look forward. So what so finished tell. 263 00:11:02,600 --> 00:11:03,240 Speaker 2: Me what happened? 264 00:11:03,559 --> 00:11:04,280 Speaker 3: Uh So? 265 00:11:04,400 --> 00:11:07,920 Speaker 4: Then after I wasn't getting tagged, I was kind of 266 00:11:07,920 --> 00:11:08,800 Speaker 4: emotional about it. 267 00:11:08,920 --> 00:11:11,680 Speaker 3: I was like, yes, hell yo, so I was. 268 00:11:13,559 --> 00:11:17,199 Speaker 1: I mean, that's what you were saying security ain't here, yeah, 269 00:11:18,320 --> 00:11:21,079 Speaker 1: because the security putting at work. Yeah. 270 00:11:22,600 --> 00:11:26,200 Speaker 4: But so but then that made me like stuff like that, 271 00:11:26,240 --> 00:11:28,079 Speaker 4: the stuff that you cry about helps you too at. 272 00:11:28,040 --> 00:11:29,480 Speaker 3: The same time once you realize that. 273 00:11:29,559 --> 00:11:32,480 Speaker 4: So that gave me the momentum to go do a 274 00:11:32,559 --> 00:11:35,880 Speaker 4: Walmart video and still keep it clean. With me doing 275 00:11:35,920 --> 00:11:38,080 Speaker 4: Walmart videos, I still want to respect people and I 276 00:11:38,080 --> 00:11:40,800 Speaker 4: want to mess with elderly people, but still keeping respectful. 277 00:11:40,920 --> 00:11:43,120 Speaker 4: So I was like, let me go do rap lyrics 278 00:11:43,160 --> 00:11:46,040 Speaker 4: on people at Walmart while they shopping because they think 279 00:11:46,040 --> 00:11:47,520 Speaker 4: in the shop and then get their feedback. 280 00:11:47,559 --> 00:11:48,120 Speaker 3: So I did that. 281 00:11:48,280 --> 00:11:52,439 Speaker 4: Mazi, I know you know him. Uh, I did his 282 00:11:52,480 --> 00:11:54,400 Speaker 4: first song and I did his whole song and then 283 00:11:54,520 --> 00:11:57,640 Speaker 4: he uh he reposted it so and I sent it 284 00:11:57,640 --> 00:11:57,920 Speaker 4: to him. 285 00:11:58,120 --> 00:11:58,560 Speaker 2: That was hard. 286 00:11:58,640 --> 00:12:01,480 Speaker 3: So then I seen y g were comment under let 287 00:12:01,520 --> 00:12:03,079 Speaker 3: me go do his song. Then he re posted it. 288 00:12:03,240 --> 00:12:05,120 Speaker 4: Younger man commented under his I'm like let me go 289 00:12:05,200 --> 00:12:07,280 Speaker 4: do So it was me watching and I was going 290 00:12:07,280 --> 00:12:09,000 Speaker 4: out there. Then I remember I was like, let me 291 00:12:09,040 --> 00:12:10,960 Speaker 4: get out the music lane. And then I seen Kevin 292 00:12:11,000 --> 00:12:12,920 Speaker 4: Hart do a stand up set. I watched this whole 293 00:12:12,960 --> 00:12:14,800 Speaker 4: stand up set and I took some of his punchlines 294 00:12:15,040 --> 00:12:16,800 Speaker 4: and when did it on people and Walmart sent to 295 00:12:16,880 --> 00:12:19,840 Speaker 4: him then he were posted it. So I remember my 296 00:12:19,880 --> 00:12:22,640 Speaker 4: first bag I got, my promo bag was ten thousand 297 00:12:22,679 --> 00:12:27,240 Speaker 4: dollars and my manager he was like, I got a 298 00:12:27,280 --> 00:12:30,000 Speaker 4: promo for you, ten thousand dollars. Make it funny. It's 299 00:12:30,080 --> 00:12:32,040 Speaker 4: with a waist trainer. And I instantly was like, what 300 00:12:32,080 --> 00:12:33,679 Speaker 4: the fuck I'm gonna do with a waist trainer? So 301 00:12:34,120 --> 00:12:36,600 Speaker 4: I'm happy about the money. By I was mad about 302 00:12:36,720 --> 00:12:38,520 Speaker 4: what he putting me in and he just signed up. 303 00:12:38,640 --> 00:12:40,880 Speaker 4: He's like, nigga, you need money. You crying you in 304 00:12:40,880 --> 00:12:43,559 Speaker 4: the lennter you broke. Yeah, he was like, this nigga 305 00:12:43,600 --> 00:12:45,839 Speaker 4: figured something out. Make it funny. So I'm like, fuck, 306 00:12:46,200 --> 00:12:49,400 Speaker 4: I'm thinking, like what can I do with a waist like. 307 00:12:49,320 --> 00:12:51,480 Speaker 2: The cliche shit, This nigga is selling waist train? 308 00:12:51,800 --> 00:12:54,520 Speaker 1: Yeah? Yeah, yeah, so you got to it was, but 309 00:12:54,640 --> 00:12:55,680 Speaker 1: it's ten thousand dollars. 310 00:12:55,760 --> 00:12:56,080 Speaker 3: Yeah. 311 00:12:56,520 --> 00:12:58,960 Speaker 4: And I And one thing he did tell me is 312 00:12:59,080 --> 00:13:02,240 Speaker 4: with promotion, I'm so glad that he did. Started on 313 00:13:02,280 --> 00:13:06,120 Speaker 4: my head. Don't be a promo ass nigga, Like, don't 314 00:13:06,160 --> 00:13:08,360 Speaker 4: post on your page, follow this place because people is 315 00:13:08,360 --> 00:13:10,520 Speaker 4: gonna water your brand now if you do promotion, put 316 00:13:10,600 --> 00:13:12,840 Speaker 4: your face in it, make it funny. So when I 317 00:13:12,880 --> 00:13:15,520 Speaker 4: got that, I remember having that waist trainer and I'm 318 00:13:15,559 --> 00:13:18,079 Speaker 4: in Walmart, Louisiana, and I'm like, what the fuck can 319 00:13:18,080 --> 00:13:20,000 Speaker 4: I do with this? So and I went up to 320 00:13:20,040 --> 00:13:22,120 Speaker 4: customers and I'm like, dude, you got any more of these? 321 00:13:22,200 --> 00:13:24,439 Speaker 4: And I say the brand and the lady was like no. 322 00:13:24,720 --> 00:13:27,160 Speaker 4: And I'm like, okay, all right. If I force her 323 00:13:27,160 --> 00:13:28,839 Speaker 4: and keep asking her, she's gonna cust me out. When 324 00:13:28,840 --> 00:13:31,080 Speaker 4: I I did it like that, and it went viral like, 325 00:13:31,360 --> 00:13:32,960 Speaker 4: She's like, I ain't it was old aage, I ain't 326 00:13:33,000 --> 00:13:33,520 Speaker 4: got one of these. 327 00:13:33,520 --> 00:13:35,280 Speaker 3: Goddamn it. What the fuck? I just told you. 328 00:13:35,559 --> 00:13:38,200 Speaker 4: I'm like big oakt it. So when I did it, 329 00:13:38,200 --> 00:13:40,160 Speaker 4: though the lady didn't like the video, I me ask. 330 00:13:40,000 --> 00:13:42,160 Speaker 2: You this, who you had? What you recording with you? 331 00:13:42,320 --> 00:13:44,600 Speaker 4: It was it was a stud, this stud that I'm 332 00:13:44,960 --> 00:13:46,560 Speaker 4: if I could say the stuff like whatever y'all, I 333 00:13:46,559 --> 00:13:47,920 Speaker 4: love y'all, but it was her. 334 00:13:48,000 --> 00:13:50,720 Speaker 3: I moved, yeah, well, oh damn, that's even. 335 00:13:51,960 --> 00:13:55,320 Speaker 2: That's what you call him. I like stud like. 336 00:13:55,720 --> 00:13:58,880 Speaker 4: Bulldouts sound like kind of like like ugly, you sound like. 337 00:14:00,320 --> 00:14:01,680 Speaker 3: It's not like an ugly to no. 338 00:14:01,800 --> 00:14:06,800 Speaker 1: That's a nigga. That's a nigga. She she like, your homeboy. Yeah, 339 00:14:07,040 --> 00:14:08,160 Speaker 1: so finished telling this store. 340 00:14:08,520 --> 00:14:11,280 Speaker 4: But yeah, so that went, that went, you know, went up. 341 00:14:12,080 --> 00:14:13,760 Speaker 4: But how I got to Atlanta was funny though. I 342 00:14:13,800 --> 00:14:16,480 Speaker 4: remember a random dude right me. He was like, you 343 00:14:16,520 --> 00:14:18,319 Speaker 4: need a manager? You want to come to Atlanta. I'm 344 00:14:18,320 --> 00:14:20,200 Speaker 4: like yeah, I'm just like nigg could have killed me. 345 00:14:20,240 --> 00:14:22,800 Speaker 4: I was ready to leave campt City. He was like, 346 00:14:22,920 --> 00:14:25,000 Speaker 4: you know where you're then I was two thousand and 347 00:14:25,880 --> 00:14:28,920 Speaker 4: eighteen at twenty eighteen. You hit me up Thanksgiving right 348 00:14:29,000 --> 00:14:31,680 Speaker 4: going in twenty nineteen, he was like you you know 349 00:14:31,800 --> 00:14:34,240 Speaker 4: Rihanna followed you. I'm like no, I'm like, damn, she 350 00:14:34,280 --> 00:14:35,680 Speaker 4: followed me. He was like yeah, it's like you need 351 00:14:35,760 --> 00:14:38,160 Speaker 4: a manager. He was like, man, let me fly you 352 00:14:38,160 --> 00:14:40,440 Speaker 4: out to Atlanta. Like and I'm like, okay, fly me out. 353 00:14:40,480 --> 00:14:42,120 Speaker 1: So he was one of the people answering to anybody 354 00:14:42,120 --> 00:14:44,680 Speaker 1: in your DM that you said. I was happy, yes, 355 00:14:44,800 --> 00:14:45,360 Speaker 1: god man. 356 00:14:46,280 --> 00:14:46,560 Speaker 2: Yeah. 357 00:14:46,600 --> 00:14:49,960 Speaker 4: And then he got me to Atlanta and he flew 358 00:14:50,480 --> 00:14:51,960 Speaker 4: he flew me down here and I was staying with 359 00:14:52,040 --> 00:14:54,920 Speaker 4: him and his girl, and I stuff to realize he 360 00:14:55,040 --> 00:14:56,720 Speaker 4: wasn't that nigga, Like as I'm staying with. 361 00:14:56,760 --> 00:14:59,000 Speaker 3: Him, I'm like how, And then I ended up running. 362 00:14:59,000 --> 00:14:59,520 Speaker 3: I don't know if you know. 363 00:14:59,640 --> 00:15:02,880 Speaker 4: Right there, I ran it into him and he was like, 364 00:15:02,960 --> 00:15:04,040 Speaker 4: I'm like this that nigga. 365 00:15:04,040 --> 00:15:05,880 Speaker 2: I need to be with Rock City. 366 00:15:05,920 --> 00:15:08,280 Speaker 4: Yeah, I need to get next to him. So they 367 00:15:08,360 --> 00:15:10,600 Speaker 4: end up getting next to him. So I feel like 368 00:15:11,080 --> 00:15:13,400 Speaker 4: relationships got me far. Being next to the white people 369 00:15:13,400 --> 00:15:14,880 Speaker 4: on me doing my part, and when I got in 370 00:15:14,880 --> 00:15:17,800 Speaker 4: a room, people respected me because I never brought up money. 371 00:15:17,880 --> 00:15:19,440 Speaker 3: I never asked for it. I want to know how 372 00:15:19,480 --> 00:15:19,960 Speaker 3: to get it. 373 00:15:21,440 --> 00:15:24,840 Speaker 1: So now that you here, fast forward, where you are now? 374 00:15:25,320 --> 00:15:28,680 Speaker 1: Do you feel like you've accomplished it? Now? Do you 375 00:15:28,720 --> 00:15:30,440 Speaker 1: feel like you're doing your thing? Where do you feel 376 00:15:30,480 --> 00:15:32,640 Speaker 1: like you are as far as in your career career 377 00:15:32,680 --> 00:15:36,080 Speaker 1: right now? You'll personally to answer your question. I could 378 00:15:36,080 --> 00:15:37,520 Speaker 1: say I came far, but I don't feel like I'm 379 00:15:37,520 --> 00:15:40,400 Speaker 1: doing enough. I always wake up and feel like whatever. 380 00:15:40,880 --> 00:15:43,840 Speaker 1: I feel like, I ain't enjoyed one moment yet of 381 00:15:43,960 --> 00:15:45,960 Speaker 1: my career. It ain't being one moment I've been like 382 00:15:46,000 --> 00:15:47,360 Speaker 1: it like I'm happy for this. 383 00:15:48,280 --> 00:15:49,880 Speaker 2: What do you mean by like you don't feel like 384 00:15:49,880 --> 00:15:51,040 Speaker 2: you're happy with what you're. 385 00:15:50,920 --> 00:15:54,120 Speaker 4: Doing or you, it ain't being one that just like like, damn, 386 00:15:54,160 --> 00:15:54,600 Speaker 4: I made it. 387 00:15:54,600 --> 00:15:57,480 Speaker 1: It ain't being what do you consider making it? What's 388 00:15:57,520 --> 00:15:59,480 Speaker 1: what's your I can. 389 00:15:59,440 --> 00:16:01,160 Speaker 4: Say I made it because I'm doing what I want 390 00:16:01,160 --> 00:16:03,440 Speaker 4: to do, so I made it at that point. But 391 00:16:03,480 --> 00:16:05,240 Speaker 4: I feel like now that I'm doing what I want 392 00:16:05,240 --> 00:16:07,080 Speaker 4: to do with so much more that I want to do, 393 00:16:07,160 --> 00:16:09,000 Speaker 4: that I'm in doing what I want to do. 394 00:16:09,200 --> 00:16:09,800 Speaker 3: That makes sense. 395 00:16:09,840 --> 00:16:12,680 Speaker 1: I get what you're saying, But why do you feel 396 00:16:12,720 --> 00:16:15,920 Speaker 1: like you don't like what? What do you feel it's made? 397 00:16:16,080 --> 00:16:18,080 Speaker 2: Like? When you like? What do you say? Like me? Really? 398 00:16:18,120 --> 00:16:21,960 Speaker 4: My made it is that that movie premiere red carpet weekend, 399 00:16:22,000 --> 00:16:24,400 Speaker 4: people of box office going to go see me and 400 00:16:24,440 --> 00:16:26,640 Speaker 4: it's just like that weekend like eight box office. 401 00:16:26,720 --> 00:16:29,240 Speaker 3: But to me, I just want one of them moments. 402 00:16:29,280 --> 00:16:31,840 Speaker 2: But let me say this, though, people don't go to 403 00:16:31,840 --> 00:16:32,960 Speaker 2: the movies no more. 404 00:16:32,760 --> 00:16:36,120 Speaker 4: I know, but look, Michael B. Jordan when they drop 405 00:16:36,200 --> 00:16:39,280 Speaker 4: that Creed, it go crazy. So one of them movies 406 00:16:39,760 --> 00:16:42,440 Speaker 4: if if that's possible, But then again, them movies can 407 00:16:42,480 --> 00:16:43,280 Speaker 4: go down, then it's done. 408 00:16:43,320 --> 00:16:47,560 Speaker 1: Then you're right, that's gonna happen, that's easy can happen? 409 00:16:47,720 --> 00:16:48,280 Speaker 3: Yeah? 410 00:16:48,400 --> 00:16:54,280 Speaker 1: Then what right? Because I want to tell this to everybody. 411 00:16:54,320 --> 00:16:57,480 Speaker 1: It's like the part that you want, that's the easy part. 412 00:16:57,840 --> 00:17:02,160 Speaker 1: The hard part is all right, how can you be happy? 413 00:17:02,200 --> 00:17:04,080 Speaker 3: That's like how can you get famous? Then yeah, they 414 00:17:04,280 --> 00:17:07,840 Speaker 3: get money? Deal with yes, Yes, it's always a then yes. 415 00:17:08,119 --> 00:17:09,920 Speaker 1: And that's why I try to show through my life 416 00:17:09,920 --> 00:17:12,240 Speaker 1: and who I am, to show how to live life 417 00:17:12,240 --> 00:17:15,119 Speaker 1: and be at peace after you do your thing or whatever, 418 00:17:15,359 --> 00:17:17,600 Speaker 1: because I mean we all when you grind and you 419 00:17:17,760 --> 00:17:19,720 Speaker 1: just your tunnel vishi and you go straight there. 420 00:17:20,040 --> 00:17:22,159 Speaker 2: But the next thing you know, you look back. You 421 00:17:22,240 --> 00:17:23,040 Speaker 2: got everything you. 422 00:17:23,000 --> 00:17:27,159 Speaker 1: Want, the money, the life, the career. You're like, what 423 00:17:27,200 --> 00:17:30,880 Speaker 1: the fuck next? And then that's where people go crazy. 424 00:17:30,520 --> 00:17:33,280 Speaker 1: They be unhappy. You know what I'm saying. Do you 425 00:17:33,320 --> 00:17:36,400 Speaker 1: know what happiness is? Your your your definition of happiness? 426 00:17:36,880 --> 00:17:39,720 Speaker 4: Taking care of people around me? Like honestly, because I 427 00:17:39,800 --> 00:17:41,760 Speaker 4: make money for my people around me. Because you have 428 00:17:41,840 --> 00:17:42,440 Speaker 4: a lot of people. 429 00:17:43,320 --> 00:17:46,080 Speaker 3: I said a lot and I'm bringing a lot more people. 430 00:17:46,200 --> 00:17:47,919 Speaker 2: You say, people are you just talking about? Close end 431 00:17:47,920 --> 00:17:48,280 Speaker 2: the meeting? 432 00:17:48,320 --> 00:17:51,159 Speaker 4: I say, like my family and also developing my family 433 00:17:51,200 --> 00:17:53,720 Speaker 4: now and this is what my camera man, my you 434 00:17:53,760 --> 00:17:54,840 Speaker 4: know my friends that I am. 435 00:17:54,880 --> 00:17:57,240 Speaker 2: You consider that Kansas City is a part of that too, 436 00:17:57,280 --> 00:17:57,560 Speaker 2: are you just. 437 00:17:57,640 --> 00:17:59,000 Speaker 3: Yeah, I want to do a lot for my city. 438 00:17:59,280 --> 00:18:00,520 Speaker 3: I do want to build, and I want. 439 00:18:00,440 --> 00:18:01,439 Speaker 2: To That's what it's all about. 440 00:18:01,480 --> 00:18:03,359 Speaker 4: Man, Yeah, I want to better community center for the 441 00:18:03,400 --> 00:18:05,240 Speaker 4: younger people. Fuck the older people, but I want to 442 00:18:05,240 --> 00:18:09,000 Speaker 4: start with the generation like that that. Yeah, they already 443 00:18:09,000 --> 00:18:10,920 Speaker 4: done what they had to do with the younger people, 444 00:18:11,000 --> 00:18:14,240 Speaker 4: building the community center and releasing that and cutting that shit, 445 00:18:14,280 --> 00:18:14,880 Speaker 4: like cutting that. 446 00:18:14,880 --> 00:18:16,720 Speaker 3: Tide, like, hey, we got this for the kids. 447 00:18:16,920 --> 00:18:20,920 Speaker 1: You gotta do that though, because nowadays, like you said, 448 00:18:20,960 --> 00:18:23,240 Speaker 1: because you you grew up in the era, you came 449 00:18:23,320 --> 00:18:26,600 Speaker 1: up on the era seeing the superstar in the movie theater. 450 00:18:27,240 --> 00:18:31,760 Speaker 1: Nowadays you're the superstar. Now you're the network, You're the 451 00:18:32,400 --> 00:18:35,800 Speaker 1: You create the Hollywood. You create your own Hollywood. You 452 00:18:35,840 --> 00:18:38,560 Speaker 1: see what I'm saying. So you already who you saying 453 00:18:38,600 --> 00:18:41,200 Speaker 1: you want to be? You gee what I'm saying. It's 454 00:18:41,240 --> 00:18:44,720 Speaker 1: just now initiating them and letting the pieces fall away 455 00:18:44,760 --> 00:18:47,480 Speaker 1: they lay by planting them seeds and you're doing it. 456 00:18:48,000 --> 00:18:51,080 Speaker 1: You already won. I won twenty years ago. 457 00:18:51,160 --> 00:18:53,520 Speaker 3: What's two people you look up to? That's a lie. 458 00:18:54,840 --> 00:18:55,480 Speaker 2: I look up to. 459 00:18:55,440 --> 00:18:57,040 Speaker 1: Every I look up to a lot of different people 460 00:18:57,080 --> 00:18:58,879 Speaker 1: for different reasons, Like today I just posted. 461 00:18:59,119 --> 00:19:00,119 Speaker 2: I looked up to Michael J. 462 00:19:00,280 --> 00:19:04,000 Speaker 1: Fox just for how he resilient through life even though 463 00:19:04,119 --> 00:19:06,680 Speaker 1: what he'd been going through in life, still was able 464 00:19:06,720 --> 00:19:09,480 Speaker 1: to be happy, be joking about it, just be at peace. 465 00:19:09,640 --> 00:19:11,399 Speaker 1: I look up to people about different things, you know 466 00:19:11,440 --> 00:19:15,200 Speaker 1: what I'm saying. Everybody, everybody have different things in life 467 00:19:15,200 --> 00:19:17,399 Speaker 1: that can teach you a lot, not just in just 468 00:19:17,480 --> 00:19:26,000 Speaker 1: one feel that's right, that's. 469 00:19:23,920 --> 00:19:27,159 Speaker 4: Some deep thinking because like now I can say with 470 00:19:27,359 --> 00:19:29,960 Speaker 4: stand up, I'm happy that I did it. This opened 471 00:19:30,000 --> 00:19:32,560 Speaker 4: a whole new lane in my career of long Jeopardy 472 00:19:32,800 --> 00:19:36,359 Speaker 4: like I and it shows me that you can like 473 00:19:36,480 --> 00:19:39,280 Speaker 4: touch the real not just funck the internet. If you 474 00:19:39,280 --> 00:19:40,639 Speaker 4: can get down and really touched the roll to make 475 00:19:40,680 --> 00:19:44,120 Speaker 4: people really, that shows who you really are. So and 476 00:19:44,160 --> 00:19:46,280 Speaker 4: I didn't want to do it at first. I wanted 477 00:19:46,320 --> 00:19:48,960 Speaker 4: to do it mentally. I wanted to do it mentally 478 00:19:49,280 --> 00:19:51,199 Speaker 4: like I because I grew up on stand up, like 479 00:19:51,280 --> 00:19:54,560 Speaker 4: for instance, watching you one on six in Park. I 480 00:19:54,640 --> 00:19:56,640 Speaker 4: just grew up with a lot of people talking live, 481 00:19:56,720 --> 00:19:59,280 Speaker 4: seeing them live. We didn't have Internet. I'm a nineties baby, 482 00:19:59,320 --> 00:20:01,440 Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying. So well, watching that comic 483 00:20:01,520 --> 00:20:03,560 Speaker 4: view with the Remember old dude, I know you. 484 00:20:03,480 --> 00:20:03,920 Speaker 3: Know this joke. 485 00:20:03,960 --> 00:20:05,879 Speaker 4: Odude said your hair loines so far back, look like 486 00:20:06,040 --> 00:20:07,040 Speaker 4: so somebody else's it. 487 00:20:07,640 --> 00:20:09,880 Speaker 3: You know what I'm talking about. With the dreads, he died, 488 00:20:09,920 --> 00:20:14,359 Speaker 3: he passed away. I think, no, no time, No, Tyler, 489 00:20:15,119 --> 00:20:18,520 Speaker 3: he had dreads and he was he like he was 490 00:20:18,600 --> 00:20:19,280 Speaker 3: drunk all the time. 491 00:20:19,480 --> 00:20:19,720 Speaker 2: Tyler. 492 00:20:19,960 --> 00:20:20,480 Speaker 3: Yeah. 493 00:20:20,520 --> 00:20:23,639 Speaker 4: But I grew up watching straight stand up raw, Like 494 00:20:23,680 --> 00:20:26,520 Speaker 4: I remember the day Bernie Mac Show release, so I 495 00:20:26,640 --> 00:20:31,080 Speaker 4: remember watching that. So with me feeling like I have 496 00:20:31,119 --> 00:20:33,800 Speaker 4: a special part of just seeing good energy. I was 497 00:20:33,800 --> 00:20:35,480 Speaker 4: like I wanted to do stand up even before I 498 00:20:35,520 --> 00:20:38,560 Speaker 4: started doing videos, but realizing it's an art to it, 499 00:20:38,640 --> 00:20:40,760 Speaker 4: and now that I hit the stage, it's like I 500 00:20:40,800 --> 00:20:44,080 Speaker 4: really care about the people and how they think and 501 00:20:44,119 --> 00:20:45,639 Speaker 4: what they're gonna leave and how they feel. 502 00:20:45,640 --> 00:20:47,119 Speaker 2: How long you've been doing stand up now. 503 00:20:47,359 --> 00:20:51,399 Speaker 4: I say probably like probably like two to three months, 504 00:20:51,480 --> 00:20:52,200 Speaker 4: two to three months. 505 00:20:52,800 --> 00:20:54,840 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's that no, no. 506 00:20:54,680 --> 00:20:57,879 Speaker 2: No o, god, I just when I was hit he 507 00:20:57,960 --> 00:20:59,320 Speaker 2: was hitting me up talking. 508 00:20:59,080 --> 00:21:01,760 Speaker 4: About yeah but no no. My first show literally I 509 00:21:01,800 --> 00:21:04,040 Speaker 4: did what was that in Memphis? It was my first 510 00:21:04,080 --> 00:21:06,280 Speaker 4: show that I really went out and did stand up, 511 00:21:06,359 --> 00:21:09,680 Speaker 4: Like with me actually on their where Baltimore. 512 00:21:09,720 --> 00:21:11,120 Speaker 3: It was Baltimore and. 513 00:21:11,440 --> 00:21:16,440 Speaker 2: That was that was by yourself or you open up for. 514 00:21:16,800 --> 00:21:19,000 Speaker 3: That was by myself. I opened up for Dezi. 515 00:21:19,080 --> 00:21:21,119 Speaker 4: That was the first one, honestly want to open up 516 00:21:21,119 --> 00:21:24,040 Speaker 4: for DESI when I did his show, and I don't 517 00:21:24,080 --> 00:21:24,960 Speaker 4: know when that was. 518 00:21:25,040 --> 00:21:27,119 Speaker 1: I remember you always come to me telling me on 519 00:21:27,160 --> 00:21:29,240 Speaker 1: the road with you. But let me just you know, 520 00:21:29,320 --> 00:21:31,280 Speaker 1: I don't be taking you. I never took you serious. 521 00:21:31,359 --> 00:21:34,879 Speaker 1: Yeah you know, because you never serious. Yeah, you know 522 00:21:34,960 --> 00:21:38,080 Speaker 1: what I'm saying. It's always is a joke behind this shit. 523 00:21:38,200 --> 00:21:39,920 Speaker 1: He always try to which I get, you know what 524 00:21:39,920 --> 00:21:42,000 Speaker 1: I'm saying, Like, that's one thing went up and coming 525 00:21:42,000 --> 00:21:43,680 Speaker 1: to me. I don't like to knock with it yet 526 00:21:43,760 --> 00:21:44,960 Speaker 1: because they still on the jerney. 527 00:21:45,000 --> 00:21:46,720 Speaker 4: I can say this this is me though, but I 528 00:21:46,720 --> 00:21:49,440 Speaker 4: got to learn how to leverage it, because that's one 529 00:21:49,440 --> 00:21:51,000 Speaker 4: thing DESI told me, like you told me I want 530 00:21:51,080 --> 00:21:52,880 Speaker 4: to get you when we started, and that same thing, 531 00:21:52,880 --> 00:21:54,040 Speaker 4: DESSI told me why I did this show. 532 00:21:54,080 --> 00:21:56,320 Speaker 3: And it's just like step in being me. 533 00:21:56,400 --> 00:21:59,000 Speaker 4: Talk to me like if you talking to like, you know, 534 00:21:59,160 --> 00:22:01,280 Speaker 4: a business man, you trying to survive a car like 535 00:22:01,400 --> 00:22:03,399 Speaker 4: talk to me in that way because I gotta you 536 00:22:03,480 --> 00:22:06,399 Speaker 4: gotta control your sense of humor, like because it's ready. 537 00:22:06,160 --> 00:22:08,360 Speaker 3: To go, but push it back this up here. 538 00:22:08,440 --> 00:22:11,880 Speaker 1: So that's right now in your career though, shipping right now, 539 00:22:12,040 --> 00:22:15,040 Speaker 1: stay but certain stay Walco. That's why you don't change 540 00:22:15,040 --> 00:22:19,040 Speaker 1: your name right now? You know you like you. You 541 00:22:19,080 --> 00:22:20,919 Speaker 1: say you've been following me and you've been a fan 542 00:22:21,000 --> 00:22:23,080 Speaker 1: of mine for a long time. Right so you know 543 00:22:23,200 --> 00:22:26,280 Speaker 1: my first joke about by a girl to drink. I 544 00:22:26,320 --> 00:22:28,919 Speaker 1: was tired of doing that joke twenty years ago, but 545 00:22:29,040 --> 00:22:31,440 Speaker 1: I didn't stop doing it till about ten years ago. 546 00:22:31,600 --> 00:22:33,800 Speaker 1: And I still do it if somebody in the crowd 547 00:22:33,920 --> 00:22:36,760 Speaker 1: asked for it, because that's what we do it for. 548 00:22:37,119 --> 00:22:38,879 Speaker 3: You know, because we got to see it loud. 549 00:22:39,000 --> 00:22:41,199 Speaker 1: Yes, they never saw it loud. It's just like you 550 00:22:41,280 --> 00:22:43,040 Speaker 1: might say, hey man, do this ship. I'll be tired 551 00:22:43,040 --> 00:22:45,200 Speaker 1: of that ship. But you don't be tired of it, 552 00:22:45,600 --> 00:22:46,240 Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. 553 00:22:46,240 --> 00:22:47,919 Speaker 4: You Just like Walmart. I hate when people tell me 554 00:22:48,000 --> 00:22:50,200 Speaker 4: go to Walmart. I was tired of it. I don't 555 00:22:50,200 --> 00:22:51,560 Speaker 4: want nobody to bring up Walmart to me. 556 00:22:51,760 --> 00:22:54,159 Speaker 1: Yeah, but but you know the flip side of it, 557 00:22:54,160 --> 00:22:56,520 Speaker 1: it's up to you to make them forget that. That's 558 00:22:56,520 --> 00:22:59,480 Speaker 1: why I gave him ship to forget, to forget the 559 00:22:59,560 --> 00:23:02,080 Speaker 1: old on to where they didn't have to. If they 560 00:23:02,119 --> 00:23:03,840 Speaker 1: do want it, they want it. But if they don't, 561 00:23:04,000 --> 00:23:05,840 Speaker 1: they go into something else. So that's up to you. 562 00:23:05,840 --> 00:23:08,280 Speaker 1: You don't change you don't. You don't change your name 563 00:23:08,320 --> 00:23:10,720 Speaker 1: for them. You you give them something to make them. 564 00:23:11,040 --> 00:23:13,159 Speaker 3: Yeah, respect you for that, Yeah, to say give them 565 00:23:13,160 --> 00:23:13,800 Speaker 3: something else or not. 566 00:23:14,000 --> 00:23:15,879 Speaker 1: It's just like I was like, man, hey man, you 567 00:23:15,880 --> 00:23:19,080 Speaker 1: want to step off of doing that that? 568 00:23:19,280 --> 00:23:22,320 Speaker 2: Uh, what's the ship? You do? The prank ship? Yeah? 569 00:23:22,520 --> 00:23:25,440 Speaker 1: Yeah, and then you did. You evolved into the interview ship. 570 00:23:25,520 --> 00:23:27,919 Speaker 1: You see what I'm saying. So that made them not 571 00:23:27,960 --> 00:23:29,840 Speaker 1: even give a fuck that about that no moment. 572 00:23:29,680 --> 00:23:31,359 Speaker 4: And if you go back to it, it's good because 573 00:23:31,480 --> 00:23:32,879 Speaker 4: it's good. It didn't get dried out. 574 00:23:33,080 --> 00:23:34,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, you didn't. 575 00:23:34,880 --> 00:23:36,560 Speaker 4: It's kind of like I feel like that way about 576 00:23:36,560 --> 00:23:39,199 Speaker 4: fifty cent he left right and he started doing it 577 00:23:39,480 --> 00:23:41,479 Speaker 4: like you. He don't have a plopping album, so if 578 00:23:41,480 --> 00:23:43,280 Speaker 4: he go do it, he go do it like it's 579 00:23:43,359 --> 00:23:44,919 Speaker 4: like damn, you know what I'm saying, So leave it 580 00:23:44,960 --> 00:23:46,959 Speaker 4: before leave you not even just leave it. 581 00:23:46,960 --> 00:23:50,200 Speaker 1: It's just just evolved, you know, what I'm saying, evolved 582 00:23:50,240 --> 00:23:52,720 Speaker 1: before before the ship run over you. 583 00:23:52,720 --> 00:23:53,240 Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying. 584 00:23:53,280 --> 00:23:54,560 Speaker 2: It's just like everything in life. 585 00:23:54,640 --> 00:23:56,679 Speaker 1: You know, some people, the people that that came from 586 00:23:56,760 --> 00:23:58,560 Speaker 1: common view, they didn't understand how they evolved in the 587 00:23:58,640 --> 00:24:01,239 Speaker 1: social media and that why they got stuck over there 588 00:24:01,240 --> 00:24:02,679 Speaker 1: in the com of you. It's just like people in 589 00:24:02,720 --> 00:24:04,960 Speaker 1: social media don't know how to evolve into something else 590 00:24:06,200 --> 00:24:07,000 Speaker 1: social media. 591 00:24:07,080 --> 00:24:07,840 Speaker 2: You see what I'm saying. 592 00:24:07,880 --> 00:24:10,199 Speaker 1: You just got to know how to move before the 593 00:24:10,240 --> 00:24:12,320 Speaker 1: ship move past you. You know what I'm saying. And 594 00:24:12,359 --> 00:24:14,560 Speaker 1: that's what you do. I notice you don't. You don't 595 00:24:15,160 --> 00:24:17,160 Speaker 1: you don't let some ship like all right, I'm gonna 596 00:24:17,200 --> 00:24:19,480 Speaker 1: keep doing this. I'm gonna keep you. Don't beat that horse. 597 00:24:20,760 --> 00:24:22,840 Speaker 3: It's a gift and the curse because some people miss 598 00:24:22,920 --> 00:24:23,360 Speaker 3: that too. 599 00:24:23,720 --> 00:24:25,440 Speaker 1: But then you gotta know how to do it though. 600 00:24:25,520 --> 00:24:28,040 Speaker 1: You gotta know how to let go and know how 601 00:24:28,040 --> 00:24:29,600 Speaker 1: to give it to them every now and then. That's 602 00:24:29,640 --> 00:24:32,720 Speaker 1: just like sometimes like I might say something like safety 603 00:24:32,720 --> 00:24:34,880 Speaker 1: and that I might say poor asshole. You know, people 604 00:24:35,000 --> 00:24:37,040 Speaker 1: might hear me say it so much when I when 605 00:24:37,040 --> 00:24:39,000 Speaker 1: I do a show, lie, they want to hear me 606 00:24:39,119 --> 00:24:41,000 Speaker 1: just say it. You know what I'm saying, so I 607 00:24:41,040 --> 00:24:43,639 Speaker 1: give them something just to say it, just to satisfy 608 00:24:43,680 --> 00:24:46,639 Speaker 1: that crazy even even like they like the song about 609 00:24:46,880 --> 00:24:48,639 Speaker 1: by a Girl or drinking the club, the song I 610 00:24:48,680 --> 00:24:51,200 Speaker 1: was telling you about it's a joke. If you hear 611 00:24:51,200 --> 00:24:52,960 Speaker 1: a joke a couple of times, you really don't want 612 00:24:52,960 --> 00:24:54,760 Speaker 1: to hear it, but you think you want to hear it. 613 00:24:55,200 --> 00:24:56,800 Speaker 1: So I have to do it for you in a 614 00:24:56,880 --> 00:24:59,760 Speaker 1: way to make you satisfy you. But at the same time, no, 615 00:25:00,119 --> 00:25:02,800 Speaker 1: I'm not gonna get back to satisfaction that that I 616 00:25:02,840 --> 00:25:03,960 Speaker 1: want it, you know what I'm saying. 617 00:25:04,040 --> 00:25:06,520 Speaker 3: So you just goes yeah. 618 00:25:06,440 --> 00:25:10,240 Speaker 1: It's but it's still a win because they asking for you, 619 00:25:10,520 --> 00:25:13,240 Speaker 1: they want you like that. Let them tell like it's 620 00:25:13,280 --> 00:25:16,359 Speaker 1: just like me. I never said I never took off 621 00:25:16,400 --> 00:25:18,000 Speaker 1: a little duvo, but people called me duvau. 622 00:25:18,200 --> 00:25:19,400 Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, you see what I'm saying. 623 00:25:19,720 --> 00:25:21,440 Speaker 1: They did it. You know what I'm saying. They might 624 00:25:21,480 --> 00:25:24,119 Speaker 1: call me up, they might. I don't I transition. 625 00:25:24,359 --> 00:25:25,400 Speaker 3: It's kind of like bow wow. 626 00:25:25,480 --> 00:25:27,760 Speaker 4: He just changed Sean Moss and they just didn't give 627 00:25:27,800 --> 00:25:29,840 Speaker 4: him time to Let's give you the Sean mass the 628 00:25:29,920 --> 00:25:33,040 Speaker 4: actor like get into it, and he just changed it automatically. 629 00:25:33,119 --> 00:25:33,920 Speaker 3: Like call me this. 630 00:25:34,240 --> 00:25:36,000 Speaker 4: I get what you're saying, Like, nigga, I'm still call 631 00:25:36,080 --> 00:25:37,840 Speaker 4: you b Yeah, yeah, I ain't saying that. 632 00:25:38,000 --> 00:25:39,360 Speaker 3: Sean mass Yeah yeah. 633 00:25:39,160 --> 00:25:41,200 Speaker 1: It's like, no, I'm not finna stop calling you a 634 00:25:41,200 --> 00:25:42,720 Speaker 1: little due value nigga. 635 00:25:43,119 --> 00:25:45,199 Speaker 3: If you do something, I do a movie, roll in 636 00:25:45,240 --> 00:25:48,439 Speaker 3: my movie. Bros. Like the actor Marco Summers, that's Marco. 637 00:25:48,800 --> 00:25:51,520 Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, they evolved, yeah because. 638 00:25:51,680 --> 00:25:54,159 Speaker 3: On social media and the social media is funny Marco. 639 00:25:54,320 --> 00:25:56,480 Speaker 1: Yeah. Still, that's still your bread and butther at the 640 00:25:56,560 --> 00:25:58,720 Speaker 1: end of the day, that's still what people know you 641 00:25:58,800 --> 00:26:01,240 Speaker 1: for all that opened the doors for everything else. 642 00:26:01,600 --> 00:26:04,040 Speaker 2: You never stopped that, and I'm quit your day job. 643 00:26:05,480 --> 00:26:07,040 Speaker 2: What that she got? Because I'm kind of tired of 644 00:26:07,080 --> 00:26:07,600 Speaker 2: talking to you. 645 00:26:07,800 --> 00:26:09,920 Speaker 3: How we've been talking all right, so we're almost done it. 646 00:26:10,000 --> 00:26:10,640 Speaker 3: One more question? 647 00:26:10,880 --> 00:26:13,280 Speaker 2: Is this my forecast for this niggas? This nigga just 648 00:26:13,280 --> 00:26:15,520 Speaker 2: interviewed you. Just we just did the whole interview for you. 649 00:26:16,480 --> 00:26:17,880 Speaker 3: So look, one more question. 650 00:26:17,960 --> 00:26:19,879 Speaker 4: So the thing I got person in my house that 651 00:26:19,920 --> 00:26:22,600 Speaker 4: I need advice with, it's for kids. 652 00:26:22,920 --> 00:26:24,000 Speaker 2: So how many kids you get? 653 00:26:24,080 --> 00:26:27,120 Speaker 4: I got two, but I got one. She's a four 654 00:26:27,200 --> 00:26:32,560 Speaker 4: month old and the baby mama is she just she 655 00:26:33,080 --> 00:26:34,800 Speaker 4: she didn't let me say the baby right now because 656 00:26:34,840 --> 00:26:37,760 Speaker 4: of her decision and with me, I went through that before, 657 00:26:37,880 --> 00:26:40,080 Speaker 4: with fighting and trying to get it with my first baby, 658 00:26:40,119 --> 00:26:41,440 Speaker 4: and it was draining, and it was just like, you know, 659 00:26:41,480 --> 00:26:42,960 Speaker 4: I want to be here, you know, I provide. 660 00:26:43,080 --> 00:26:43,800 Speaker 2: You want me to tell you? What? 661 00:26:44,000 --> 00:26:44,160 Speaker 3: Ude? 662 00:26:44,320 --> 00:26:51,440 Speaker 1: What put yourself on chazzupport? Put yourself on Jazz? Why 663 00:26:51,520 --> 00:26:54,240 Speaker 1: you can in this low put yourself? What's she at? 664 00:26:54,440 --> 00:26:54,520 Speaker 2: She? 665 00:26:54,920 --> 00:27:05,320 Speaker 3: Uh? Right now? She just went to California? She no, she. 666 00:27:08,280 --> 00:27:09,000 Speaker 2: How fuck up? 667 00:27:11,880 --> 00:27:12,640 Speaker 3: Huh? 668 00:27:13,359 --> 00:27:16,120 Speaker 1: California is the worst place to be for child support. 669 00:27:16,400 --> 00:27:20,760 Speaker 1: She knew what she's doing. Yes, she's going over there 670 00:27:20,760 --> 00:27:24,040 Speaker 1: to get the most she can. They take the most. 671 00:27:24,960 --> 00:27:29,680 Speaker 1: Ask anybody Google what people paying the child support out there? 672 00:27:30,080 --> 00:27:36,760 Speaker 1: Your average person figure that? Yeah, Ship, I ain't got 673 00:27:36,800 --> 00:27:37,480 Speaker 1: no advice for that. 674 00:27:39,080 --> 00:27:42,280 Speaker 3: She's trying to show of off, make some calls. 675 00:27:42,560 --> 00:27:45,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't want to put you out there like that. 676 00:27:45,880 --> 00:27:48,520 Speaker 3: That's what you just told me something. I mean hopefully I. 677 00:27:48,480 --> 00:27:51,600 Speaker 1: Don't want to trigger no ship to to cause more 678 00:27:51,640 --> 00:27:54,160 Speaker 1: ship like hell and all that ship. 679 00:27:54,680 --> 00:27:56,280 Speaker 3: No, I'm bros. 680 00:27:57,560 --> 00:28:02,000 Speaker 2: I know that's right, Ship. I don't know. I don't know, 681 00:28:02,080 --> 00:28:02,520 Speaker 2: rich Broke. 682 00:28:02,600 --> 00:28:04,679 Speaker 4: That's one thing I can say people about you. You 683 00:28:04,800 --> 00:28:06,840 Speaker 4: make money, but you make it in your own way. 684 00:28:06,920 --> 00:28:07,720 Speaker 4: You do what you want to do. 685 00:28:07,880 --> 00:28:09,680 Speaker 3: Only people I feel like this. So know you got 686 00:28:09,680 --> 00:28:12,280 Speaker 3: a plane and you got you just be on and always. 687 00:28:12,359 --> 00:28:12,679 Speaker 2: You know that. 688 00:28:12,760 --> 00:28:15,040 Speaker 1: It's because I won't people to see it. I want 689 00:28:15,080 --> 00:28:16,320 Speaker 1: people to be inspired. 690 00:28:16,320 --> 00:28:18,320 Speaker 4: But we don't know where your money being like, but 691 00:28:18,400 --> 00:28:19,840 Speaker 4: you all right, I ain't gonna say that. 692 00:28:20,240 --> 00:28:24,840 Speaker 2: But we know. 693 00:28:25,480 --> 00:28:26,120 Speaker 3: I know it's there. 694 00:28:26,600 --> 00:28:30,840 Speaker 1: Yeah no, But I'm blessed you a lot of money. 695 00:28:31,000 --> 00:28:33,120 Speaker 1: You don't be in this so much twenty money. You'll 696 00:28:33,160 --> 00:28:35,000 Speaker 1: be in the game for twenty four years, so much. 697 00:28:35,080 --> 00:28:35,399 Speaker 2: Long. 698 00:28:35,680 --> 00:28:38,640 Speaker 3: Stop saying that nigga got damned. I'm just blessed. 699 00:28:38,640 --> 00:28:38,840 Speaker 2: Man. 700 00:28:39,480 --> 00:28:40,880 Speaker 1: I got a lot of people to take care of. 701 00:28:41,000 --> 00:28:44,200 Speaker 1: I got a community to take care of ship and 702 00:28:44,240 --> 00:28:46,920 Speaker 1: I do it. But other than that, anything else you 703 00:28:46,960 --> 00:28:48,320 Speaker 1: want to ask me before we get out of here? 704 00:28:48,360 --> 00:28:51,720 Speaker 3: Man, do you think bag wires going this year? Oh? 705 00:28:51,760 --> 00:28:56,520 Speaker 1: No, we're doing that thing. I see it can't with 706 00:28:56,600 --> 00:28:57,800 Speaker 1: you because y'all got Kansas. 707 00:28:58,040 --> 00:29:01,360 Speaker 3: Y'all. I'm saying, y'allah, I won't. 708 00:29:01,120 --> 00:29:04,360 Speaker 1: Be five hundred dollars. Yeah, give me my money, bro. 709 00:29:05,400 --> 00:29:08,160 Speaker 1: Thanks for listen to another episode. 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