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Speaker 1: You are listening to the Dan Patrick Show on Fox

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Speaker 1: Sports Radio. Otto Bolden was there watch DK Metcalf, the

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Speaker 1: Seattle Seahawks wide receiver and ran at ten three. Otto

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Speaker 1: kind enough to join us. What did you expect from

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Speaker 1: DK Metcalf? Auto? It changed over time when I saw

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Speaker 1: the play. Initially, I think I earned a lot of

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Speaker 1: football fans by saying, Okay, big deal, ten four guy

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Speaker 1: runs down ten six guy and America goes crazy. Fastest

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Speaker 1: guy on the planet. And then I started listening to

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Speaker 1: people who I thought knew more than me, like Ronado

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Speaker 1: Y and Maya for example, And you know, he was

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Speaker 1: a football player and he obviously had a world record

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Speaker 1: in the hurdles, and he said, oh, you know, DK

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Speaker 1: is gonna get destroy And I was like, wow, am

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Speaker 1: I giving DK too much credit? So by time we

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Speaker 1: went on the here, I said, well, I don't know

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Speaker 1: ten six, ten seven. If you told me this guy

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Speaker 1: was gonna run ten three, I'd have said no way,

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Speaker 1: But but he did, and I think he you know,

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Speaker 1: even so he crosses the line and last he was

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Speaker 1: the winners today. Well, also, I'm looking at his form

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Speaker 1: out of the blocks, like this is what you did

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Speaker 1: for a living for a long time, and you analyzed

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Speaker 1: this for a living, So if you're looking at his form,

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Speaker 1: what could you correct and what do you think is

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Speaker 1: actually possible for DK metcalf I didn't see a lot

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Speaker 1: wrong with his form, I said, when I analyzed the

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Speaker 1: starting real crime, I said, if you look at this video,

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Speaker 1: you wouldn't be able to tell, oh, yeah, there's the

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Speaker 1: NFL wide receiver. He looked like a sprinter for most

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Speaker 1: of the race. One of the things that I said

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Speaker 1: before the gun went off is my concern is that

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Speaker 1: weight that he carries to be in an NFL wide

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Speaker 1: receiver and to have an NFL body is going to

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Speaker 1: show up at some point during the race. Well, it

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Speaker 1: probably showed up at about eighty and when everybody started

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Speaker 1: to decelerate, as all sprinters do towards the end of

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Speaker 1: the race, he was decelerating a lot more than everybody else.

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Speaker 1: He probably could have hung on for maybe six or

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Speaker 1: seven but no form I wouldn't change other than he didn't.

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Speaker 1: He didn't relax, probably as well as a as a

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Speaker 1: going to come. But no form wise, U s N

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Speaker 1: I remember Carl Lewis telling me this a couple of

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Speaker 1: think forty four steps? Is that the strides? Does that

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Speaker 1: sound right? Yeah? For Carl, he'd probably take forty four

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Speaker 1: maybe even few. Were you okay? And what did you saying?

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Speaker 1: Bolt take you? Sain was forty two and a half

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Speaker 1: And what did you use? How many strides? I was

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Speaker 1: forty five forty six on a on a that day?

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Speaker 1: What was your single best time? Six? Right? At four times?

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Speaker 1: What is that feeling like? You know what? Before I

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Speaker 1: John's Leman would run nine point nine, who was like, yeah,

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Speaker 1: you know, it's like you step into this whole dimension

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Speaker 1: oh my gosh, you've run under ten seconds. I mind you.

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Speaker 1: When I ran under ten, I was like the eighth

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Speaker 1: The first time I ran under ten seconds, which oh,

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Speaker 1: by the way, was at the Mounttach relays where DK

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Speaker 1: and I went, oh, oh great, So it doesn't. It

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Speaker 1: doesn't feel any different to you know, okay, any other

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Speaker 1: good performance. You know you've run fast, but there's no

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Speaker 1: like you know, there's no sound barrier to go through.

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Speaker 1: I got you as one of the top fifteen. Top

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Speaker 1: fifteen people walk this earth who have run this fast.

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Speaker 1: That's pretty cool. I think I'm in the top THI feet.

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Speaker 1: I mean, you know, look, you know how you can't

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Speaker 1: know we see now in the NBA. I think I'm

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Speaker 1: you have? Otto? What? What? What? What's his time? I

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Speaker 1: Humans have ever run nine eighty six or a flower?

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Speaker 1: Oh well, so Dan, you're right, I'm still in the

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Speaker 1: top fifteen. Yeah, you should take my job. That's an

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Speaker 1: NBC because I certainly should have known that. I didn't

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Speaker 1: Lewis Johnson asked him yesterday, so you know, are you

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Speaker 1: going to train more? Like she's like, yo, I got

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Speaker 1: mini camps. He knows, he knows who cuts the check

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Speaker 1: in his life. But yes, if he called me and

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Speaker 1: what four or five months, I think is so amazing.

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Speaker 1: He'd have to lose a lot of weight and he'd

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Speaker 1: a chop slow question. Would you rather be Usain Bolt

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Speaker 1: obviously my track and field bias is going to show

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Speaker 1: you know what, they're both pretty equal because both of

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Speaker 1: that have one thing in common. I don't think anybody

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Speaker 1: So yeah, probably probably both. But I think with both,

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Speaker 1: seven Super Bowls. So I would rather be Tom Brady.

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Speaker 1: But I will say if you saying Bolt was at

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Speaker 1: things that I could ask him. Well, I would counted

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Speaker 1: that Dan by saying that it is God. You know,

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Speaker 1: everybody sprinting is not MAP. So you see guys running

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Speaker 1: Not too far off the records, night, I am saying

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Speaker 1: to you. But the gap between what they're running now

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Speaker 1: at nine fifty eight and nineteen nineteen, which are Bolts

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Speaker 1: World records, and the gap between whoever has I don't know,

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Speaker 1: the same. So don't don't think that the Bolts World

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Speaker 1: Is there trash talking in sprinting? There used to be

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Speaker 1: in my era? This is the Kumbaya generation. They don't

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Speaker 1: do because it's the politically correct era. Um, I have

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Speaker 1: to say, you know about you know, getting back to DK.

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Speaker 1: I looked yesterday and all weekends for any sign of

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Speaker 1: like superiority, Like he didn't walk into this track meet, like, yeah,

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Speaker 1: I'm the big pro Bowl wide receiver. You guys are

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Speaker 1: near spiritters. This guy was humble. He you know, he

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Speaker 1: tried to assimilate. He didn't. He didn't even leave after

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Speaker 1: when my god, I'm a forty Niners fan since I

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Speaker 1: but I'm gonna follow this guy because I think I

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Speaker 1: think he's a I think he's a fantastic kid. Are

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Speaker 1: you Are you a Niners fan? I am a Niners fan.

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Speaker 1: Grew up watching Montana to rise to the Clark and everybody. Yes,

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Speaker 1: Ronnie Lot the old deal. Did you try to play football?

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Speaker 1: You know what? I moved here at fourteen. My high school,

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Speaker 1: I stayed in soccer and then eventually went to Trump.

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Speaker 1: If we ran the one hundred meter today, what would

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Speaker 1: you run? Yeah, probably like a loving one ten leven.

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, so we're about even. Oh yeah, it's great

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Speaker 1: to catch up with you again. Otto. We appreciate your time.

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Speaker 1: Thank you. I hope you have a great summer. The

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Speaker 1: Fox Sports Radio and the iHeart Radio app. We started

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Speaker 1: the show, we talked a little bit about what's going

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Speaker 1: on with the Kentucky Derby winner Medinas Spirit accused of

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Speaker 1: using an anti inflammatory. Bob Bafford is the great trainer

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Speaker 1: thanks for joining us. What have you been accused of

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Speaker 1: exactly I've been accused of. My horse tested positive for

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Speaker 1: a legal therapeutic medication. It's called beta metal zone and

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Speaker 1: twenty one peeko grams, which is we call it contaminant levels.

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Speaker 1: It's a peeko gram. They're testing at these really low

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Speaker 1: problem in racing. But the really troubling thing is dan

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Speaker 1: trying to figure out how he got got contaminating because

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Speaker 1: know inventory with your staff where anybody could have possibly

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Speaker 1: but the horse wasn't injected with that, So we're going

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Speaker 1: but nobody, nobody to handle a horse, that handle a horse,

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Speaker 1: don't know where this came from. Do you think you've

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Speaker 1: been sabotaged. I think I don't know if I was

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Speaker 1: It's to the level that it wouldn't affect the horse,

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Speaker 1: and it's scary. They're scary levels because I've had this

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Speaker 1: problem before. When did you find out that this inquiry

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Speaker 1: was going on. I was on my way to California

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Speaker 1: And I thought one of the horses had gotten heard,

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Speaker 1: and he says, we've just been served with our horse

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Speaker 1: derby horse tests a positive for beta methizone. And I immediately,

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Speaker 1: what's going on. It's not something's not right. It's got

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Speaker 1: get hair samples immediately, let's get some DNA. It has

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Speaker 1: to be a mistake, and it still could be. I'm

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Speaker 1: hoping it's a mistake. Maybe it was a wrong horse

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Speaker 1: an investigation team working on it. But uh, it's horrible, Dan.

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Speaker 1: It's something that I would you know, it's I would

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Speaker 1: How was the weekend? Happy belated mother Day? Yeah, you

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Speaker 1: And like you said, you were messing with danger because

425
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Speaker 1: of the way Step if they end up playing Golden

426
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Speaker 1: State in that playing game, remember I mean that one

427
00:24:50,760 --> 00:24:53,639
Speaker 1: loss that can prove a lot of things, and Step

428
00:24:53,760 --> 00:24:56,800
Speaker 1: can get hot and put up fifty on you and

429
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Speaker 1: a heartbeat. So you've got to be careful and you've

430
00:25:00,119 --> 00:25:01,359
Speaker 1: got to try to find a way to get that

431
00:25:01,480 --> 00:25:05,440
Speaker 1: rhythm and chemistry going. We were talking about Russell Westbrook

432
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Speaker 1: that he's on the verge of breaking Oscars record for

433
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Speaker 1: triple doubles in a career. I was wondering how Magic

434
00:25:11,480 --> 00:25:15,199
Speaker 1: Johnson would be in today's NBA. Oh my god, but

435
00:25:15,280 --> 00:25:17,840
Speaker 1: he shooting more threes though right Red she'd be shooting

436
00:25:17,840 --> 00:25:21,840
Speaker 1: that set shot three. He probably would be. But think

437
00:25:21,880 --> 00:25:26,400
Speaker 1: about that at six nine six nine point guard, when

438
00:25:26,680 --> 00:25:30,119
Speaker 1: there's no hand checking and freedom of movement, that's the

439
00:25:30,160 --> 00:25:34,159
Speaker 1: two things taken from the eighties and nineties marasketball versus

440
00:25:34,560 --> 00:25:38,080
Speaker 1: the two thousands. Freedom of movement being able to you know,

441
00:25:38,200 --> 00:25:41,360
Speaker 1: not hand check, and you could float anywhere you want.

442
00:25:41,520 --> 00:25:45,040
Speaker 1: Magic Jonathan playing downhill every time there's a miss shot.

443
00:25:45,640 --> 00:25:48,959
Speaker 1: I think he would have been brilliant. Yeah, because he

444
00:25:49,200 --> 00:25:51,760
Speaker 1: had a couple of years I think mostly averaged, like

445
00:25:51,840 --> 00:25:54,159
Speaker 1: twenty four one year when Kareem was gone. But he

446
00:25:54,240 --> 00:25:57,840
Speaker 1: was like a nineteen points eleven assists guy. And that's

447
00:25:57,840 --> 00:25:59,680
Speaker 1: where we get caught up in stats and people say,

448
00:25:59,720 --> 00:26:02,280
Speaker 1: you know, Russell Westbrook is maybe the second or third

449
00:26:02,280 --> 00:26:04,520
Speaker 1: greatest point guard of all time. I want to know

450
00:26:05,000 --> 00:26:07,919
Speaker 1: what my point guard does when I need him to do.

451
00:26:08,640 --> 00:26:10,480
Speaker 1: You know what it is a point guard supposed to do?

452
00:26:10,800 --> 00:26:16,080
Speaker 1: John Stockton, you know what did the average fifteen fourteen sixteen, Yeah, like,

453
00:26:16,520 --> 00:26:18,480
Speaker 1: but what did he do when he needed to do it?

454
00:26:18,880 --> 00:26:22,919
Speaker 1: That's what Russell hasn't given us. Westbrook is a you know,

455
00:26:23,160 --> 00:26:26,960
Speaker 1: statistical anomaly. It's just when he's been on a big stage,

456
00:26:27,320 --> 00:26:30,679
Speaker 1: he hasn't performed. That's where I always say, that's the

457
00:26:30,760 --> 00:26:34,159
Speaker 1: difference in being a great point guard and one of

458
00:26:34,200 --> 00:26:37,800
Speaker 1: the all time great point guards. Russ is fascinating to watch,

459
00:26:38,320 --> 00:26:40,879
Speaker 1: but can you do this on a big stage? And

460
00:26:41,000 --> 00:26:43,520
Speaker 1: maybe the pressure is off because Washington is not a

461
00:26:43,560 --> 00:26:46,760
Speaker 1: great team or high expectations, but him and Bradley Beale

462
00:26:47,400 --> 00:26:51,280
Speaker 1: in a short series they could be I mean, they

463
00:26:51,280 --> 00:26:55,880
Speaker 1: could probably you know, steal a series from somebody. Hard out,

464
00:26:56,400 --> 00:26:59,159
Speaker 1: hard out with those two guys, Yeah, because both guys

465
00:27:00,119 --> 00:27:03,000
Speaker 1: they can win you ball games, and it's always going

466
00:27:03,080 --> 00:27:06,240
Speaker 1: to be a dog fight in a struggle. And like,

467
00:27:06,440 --> 00:27:08,879
Speaker 1: you know, people always want to knock Russell because of

468
00:27:08,920 --> 00:27:11,480
Speaker 1: the triple doubles, you know, and it's almost, what have

469
00:27:11,520 --> 00:27:13,399
Speaker 1: you done for me lately? We know that you're putting

470
00:27:13,480 --> 00:27:16,080
Speaker 1: up these numbers, but you're in the ninth or tenth

471
00:27:16,160 --> 00:27:19,919
Speaker 1: spot in the East. But I say that to these people,

472
00:27:20,640 --> 00:27:23,280
Speaker 1: I wouldn't my father want to have a guy who's

473
00:27:23,280 --> 00:27:26,040
Speaker 1: ready to run through a brick wall like Russell Westbrook,

474
00:27:26,160 --> 00:27:29,359
Speaker 1: who gives you effort on every single play. Does he

475
00:27:29,480 --> 00:27:34,320
Speaker 1: have flaws, absolutely, But playing hard is the number one

476
00:27:34,359 --> 00:27:36,840
Speaker 1: thing that you don't see a lot of great players do.

477
00:27:37,240 --> 00:27:38,960
Speaker 1: A lot of great players have talent, but they don't

478
00:27:38,960 --> 00:27:43,879
Speaker 1: play hard all the time. And it's true, Russ plays

479
00:27:43,920 --> 00:27:47,919
Speaker 1: too hard. Sometimes he plays too hard, right, he plays

480
00:27:47,960 --> 00:27:51,479
Speaker 1: too hard? I know. I wouldn't my father have Russell

481
00:27:51,480 --> 00:27:54,000
Speaker 1: Westbrook then a lot of these other guys that take

482
00:27:54,119 --> 00:27:57,560
Speaker 1: plays off. He's Reggie Miller, the Hall of Famer Turner

483
00:27:57,680 --> 00:28:02,600
Speaker 1: sports NBA analyst the Pelicans, David Griffin got find fifty

484
00:28:02,640 --> 00:28:06,440
Speaker 1: thousand dollars talking about how Zion is officiated. And I

485
00:28:06,800 --> 00:28:09,639
Speaker 1: gave a couple of stats here on him that nobody

486
00:28:09,680 --> 00:28:12,760
Speaker 1: has had their shot block more than Zion one hundred

487
00:28:12,800 --> 00:28:14,760
Speaker 1: thirty one times he's had a shot block this year,

488
00:28:15,760 --> 00:28:20,040
Speaker 1: but nobody scores more in the paint, Like he's three

489
00:28:20,160 --> 00:28:23,119
Speaker 1: hundred points, I think more than the Joker and the

490
00:28:23,160 --> 00:28:27,520
Speaker 1: Greek Freak. So he gets in like he's a smaller

491
00:28:28,000 --> 00:28:30,159
Speaker 1: version of Shack. I don't think they know how to

492
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Speaker 1: officiate him. Here reg but Zion, to his credit, did say,

493
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Speaker 1: I hope I get to the point where I get

494
00:28:37,640 --> 00:28:40,160
Speaker 1: those calls. He didn't criticize the official. Now he's got

495
00:28:40,200 --> 00:28:43,920
Speaker 1: a broken finger here, how do you officiate him? And

496
00:28:44,040 --> 00:28:48,080
Speaker 1: is it similar to the way Shack was officiated? Somewhat similar?

497
00:28:48,600 --> 00:28:52,080
Speaker 1: I think with sha Shack was so much bigger than

498
00:28:52,160 --> 00:28:56,920
Speaker 1: everyone else and so much more powerful, it almost wasn't fair.

499
00:28:57,520 --> 00:29:02,400
Speaker 1: And I think what David and the Pelicans, and to

500
00:29:02,680 --> 00:29:05,480
Speaker 1: Zion's credit, what they're doing, it's just planning a seed

501
00:29:05,880 --> 00:29:09,920
Speaker 1: for years to come, because until he develops that outside

502
00:29:09,960 --> 00:29:12,720
Speaker 1: jump shot. And you and I we've talked about this

503
00:29:12,760 --> 00:29:17,200
Speaker 1: on this show many of times. If they can't solve

504
00:29:17,240 --> 00:29:19,360
Speaker 1: what he's doing in the pain, if it ain't broke,

505
00:29:19,520 --> 00:29:22,720
Speaker 1: don't fix it. And I think all he wants to

506
00:29:22,760 --> 00:29:25,640
Speaker 1: do is plant seeds and the official until he gets

507
00:29:25,640 --> 00:29:28,240
Speaker 1: a jump shot, because that's the only way really he's

508
00:29:28,280 --> 00:29:32,520
Speaker 1: scoring is in the pain, and that's driving. And the

509
00:29:32,560 --> 00:29:35,520
Speaker 1: reason why he gets his shot block the most is

510
00:29:35,560 --> 00:29:37,960
Speaker 1: because that's where his bread and butter is, that's where

511
00:29:38,040 --> 00:29:40,520
Speaker 1: his candy land is is in the pain. So of

512
00:29:40,560 --> 00:29:43,440
Speaker 1: course he's going to get his shot blocked more because

513
00:29:43,440 --> 00:29:46,520
Speaker 1: he's not taking jump shots. He's shooting in the pain.

514
00:29:47,880 --> 00:29:50,720
Speaker 1: And I wonder what would you what would you tell

515
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Speaker 1: him to work on? I would have him number one,

516
00:29:56,600 --> 00:29:59,800
Speaker 1: a face up from fifteen to eighteen feet I catch

517
00:30:00,320 --> 00:30:02,920
Speaker 1: and a couple of jab steps to freeze the defense

518
00:30:03,560 --> 00:30:06,440
Speaker 1: and to knock down that shot or a wonderable left

519
00:30:06,600 --> 00:30:10,280
Speaker 1: or a wonderable right pull up jump shot, because then

520
00:30:10,600 --> 00:30:13,920
Speaker 1: you're gonna have the defense guessing, because after that, we've

521
00:30:13,920 --> 00:30:17,080
Speaker 1: seen his first step. His first step is unbelievable. We've

522
00:30:17,120 --> 00:30:19,840
Speaker 1: seen his spin move after his first sure, he likes

523
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Speaker 1: to go left spin and then bring up you know,

524
00:30:24,080 --> 00:30:26,080
Speaker 1: the arms up. That's probably why where you got a

525
00:30:26,080 --> 00:30:29,640
Speaker 1: broken finger, because he exposes the ball. What I would do,

526
00:30:30,000 --> 00:30:33,840
Speaker 1: wonderable pull up left, wonderable pull up right. Now you

527
00:30:33,960 --> 00:30:36,520
Speaker 1: keep the defense guessing. Now you can work on your

528
00:30:36,560 --> 00:30:40,120
Speaker 1: spin move and you have a defense at your mercy.

529
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Speaker 1: We also talked about Luca don Chick that he got tossed,

530
00:30:43,800 --> 00:30:46,680
Speaker 1: you know, in the game against Cleveland for the flagrant.

531
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Speaker 1: But the technicals are really big concern for me because

532
00:30:51,920 --> 00:30:56,400
Speaker 1: star players can't they can't be baited, they shouldn't be baited.

533
00:30:56,800 --> 00:31:00,440
Speaker 1: And here's Luca with fifteen technicals. Dwight Howard's only player

534
00:31:00,480 --> 00:31:04,840
Speaker 1: with more. He's got sixteen. So what advice would you

535
00:31:04,880 --> 00:31:08,800
Speaker 1: give Luca Dunchick on trying to avoid getting involved in

536
00:31:08,840 --> 00:31:12,239
Speaker 1: these ship and complaining. Well, here's the thing, because I

537
00:31:12,360 --> 00:31:15,920
Speaker 1: was a complainer, and I that's why I'm asking you

538
00:31:16,360 --> 00:31:19,720
Speaker 1: a small complainer. You never want to put your team

539
00:31:19,720 --> 00:31:21,760
Speaker 1: in jeopardy because they didn't have when you got a

540
00:31:21,760 --> 00:31:24,960
Speaker 1: certain amount of technicals. When I played, you got suspended

541
00:31:25,000 --> 00:31:28,040
Speaker 1: the game. That would hurt the Mavericks. That would hurt

542
00:31:28,040 --> 00:31:30,680
Speaker 1: your team. So you can't put yourself in that position.

543
00:31:31,480 --> 00:31:35,080
Speaker 1: You know. Look, having played for Rick Carlisle, Ricarlal goes

544
00:31:35,160 --> 00:31:40,040
Speaker 1: to bat for his players, and I would go to

545
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Speaker 1: if I'm Carlisle, I would go to Luca and say, look,

546
00:31:43,440 --> 00:31:47,040
Speaker 1: let me handle the officials, let me get tossed, let

547
00:31:47,080 --> 00:31:50,920
Speaker 1: me get on them, because what he's doing now I'm

548
00:31:51,080 --> 00:31:55,240
Speaker 1: over time, could eventually hurt his team because every play,

549
00:31:55,320 --> 00:31:58,560
Speaker 1: it seems like when he doesn't get the call number one,

550
00:31:58,760 --> 00:32:02,520
Speaker 1: he's in the backcour having conversations with the official while

551
00:32:02,520 --> 00:32:05,080
Speaker 1: the play is going on, and he's doing his team

552
00:32:05,080 --> 00:32:08,120
Speaker 1: a disservice by not getting back getting back into plays

553
00:32:08,160 --> 00:32:11,120
Speaker 1: because you have players who are irritants. You know that's

554
00:32:11,280 --> 00:32:17,080
Speaker 1: that's their Patrick's job. Yes, but Luca can't let Rashid Wallace.

555
00:32:17,160 --> 00:32:20,080
Speaker 1: You played against Rashid, it felt like anything bothered Rashid

556
00:32:20,880 --> 00:32:25,360
Speaker 1: Draymond Green is beatable. It feels like and great players

557
00:32:26,400 --> 00:32:29,560
Speaker 1: you have to use it as motivation. And it doesn't

558
00:32:29,560 --> 00:32:32,320
Speaker 1: feel like Luca does that. And the and the type

559
00:32:32,320 --> 00:32:35,160
Speaker 1: of game he has to think about this. Luca has

560
00:32:35,240 --> 00:32:38,760
Speaker 1: the basketball for the MAVs. I would say eighty five

561
00:32:38,920 --> 00:32:41,840
Speaker 1: nine percent of the time. Your game can do your

562
00:32:41,880 --> 00:32:44,000
Speaker 1: speaking for you. If you think a player is baiting

563
00:32:44,040 --> 00:32:47,400
Speaker 1: new or trash talking or whatever, you got the ball

564
00:32:47,400 --> 00:32:50,920
Speaker 1: in your hands, you're calling all the plays. Take it

565
00:32:50,920 --> 00:32:53,480
Speaker 1: out on them and their team. You can't get caught

566
00:32:53,520 --> 00:32:57,680
Speaker 1: up in words. Take it out with your play. Embarrass them.

567
00:32:58,000 --> 00:33:00,160
Speaker 1: That's how you get your paid back. What was it

568
00:33:01,000 --> 00:33:04,840
Speaker 1: last Friday? Was the anniversary of your game against the Knicks?

569
00:33:05,280 --> 00:33:09,280
Speaker 1: Eight eight points in nine seconds? Yes, it was like

570
00:33:09,320 --> 00:33:11,640
Speaker 1: it was yesterday. Did the Hall of Fame ask for

571
00:33:11,680 --> 00:33:16,680
Speaker 1: anything from that game? I believe they asked for either

572
00:33:16,720 --> 00:33:19,760
Speaker 1: a jersey or my shoes, which they have. I gave

573
00:33:19,800 --> 00:33:24,360
Speaker 1: it to them. Yes, where are the socks. I don't know,

574
00:33:24,760 --> 00:33:26,840
Speaker 1: in a laundry bin. See, I would like the socks

575
00:33:26,920 --> 00:33:30,000
Speaker 1: that that would be great. How many items does the

576
00:33:30,000 --> 00:33:34,600
Speaker 1: Hall of Fame have? You hears, shoes, a full jersey.

577
00:33:34,840 --> 00:33:39,520
Speaker 1: They probably have a game, basketball wrist fan and that's it.

578
00:33:40,800 --> 00:33:44,200
Speaker 1: But those are all based off of what so the

579
00:33:44,240 --> 00:33:50,640
Speaker 1: one game. Yeah, certain games performances like that game the

580
00:33:50,640 --> 00:33:53,120
Speaker 1: George hitting the shot over Jordan. I'm sure they asked

581
00:33:53,200 --> 00:33:56,320
Speaker 1: for something. Look, it's an honor when they call and say, hey,

582
00:33:56,440 --> 00:33:58,800
Speaker 1: you know, we're thinking about displaying this at the Hall

583
00:33:58,880 --> 00:34:03,040
Speaker 1: of Fame. Um, so of course you the Pacers sitting

584
00:34:03,040 --> 00:34:04,880
Speaker 1: it off, which was cool. I think those two games

585
00:34:04,880 --> 00:34:07,120
Speaker 1: are the are the two things that where they've asked

586
00:34:07,120 --> 00:34:11,600
Speaker 1: for stuff. But you see Greg Anthony right all the time? Yes,

587
00:34:11,680 --> 00:34:14,400
Speaker 1: you see Greg Anthony. And Greg is the guy who

588
00:34:14,520 --> 00:34:16,960
Speaker 1: was trying to guard you and you kind of nudged

589
00:34:17,040 --> 00:34:19,239
Speaker 1: him and he fell to the floor. Glad said, the

590
00:34:19,280 --> 00:34:22,560
Speaker 1: correct word was nuts. Yeah, you nu cidental contact. But

591
00:34:22,560 --> 00:34:25,879
Speaker 1: but do you can you bring this up or does

592
00:34:26,040 --> 00:34:28,440
Speaker 1: would Greg Anthony ever bring this up to you? That

593
00:34:28,520 --> 00:34:31,799
Speaker 1: you it's funny. You know, I've called a couple of

594
00:34:31,800 --> 00:34:35,880
Speaker 1: games with Greg and we'll see something during the course

595
00:34:35,880 --> 00:34:38,839
Speaker 1: of a game, and he'll bring it up like it's

596
00:34:38,960 --> 00:34:44,440
Speaker 1: nineteen ninety five, like I shoved him out of a

597
00:34:44,680 --> 00:34:48,440
Speaker 1: moving car or something. Right you were on your you

598
00:34:48,480 --> 00:34:52,680
Speaker 1: were on your way down anyways, my friend. So my

599
00:34:53,640 --> 00:34:57,839
Speaker 1: incidental contact shouldn't have really even mattered a little bit.

600
00:34:58,480 --> 00:35:00,759
Speaker 1: But I just like, you know, when I would like

601
00:35:00,800 --> 00:35:02,400
Speaker 1: that right away, I thought I was going to get

602
00:35:02,440 --> 00:35:04,640
Speaker 1: the call. But when I didn't, hear a whistle and

603
00:35:04,880 --> 00:35:10,040
Speaker 1: Anthony Mason, I'm telling you, God rest his soul, he

604
00:35:10,120 --> 00:35:13,480
Speaker 1: threw me the best pass Mark Jackson never could have

605
00:35:13,560 --> 00:35:17,360
Speaker 1: from me. I mean, it hit me right here in

606
00:35:17,480 --> 00:35:21,440
Speaker 1: my pocket, right in my shooting pocket, right into my

607
00:35:22,120 --> 00:35:25,279
Speaker 1: I mean, one dribble behind the three it was, it

608
00:35:25,360 --> 00:35:31,400
Speaker 1: was launched. Anthony Mason was scary. Scary. That NIXT team

609
00:35:31,480 --> 00:35:33,440
Speaker 1: was scary. I mean, people want to talk about the

610
00:35:33,480 --> 00:35:36,440
Speaker 1: Bad Boys, and rightfully so. Some of those some of

611
00:35:36,440 --> 00:35:38,560
Speaker 1: those characters on the Bad Boys were a little loose.

612
00:35:40,000 --> 00:35:45,120
Speaker 1: Charles Oakley, Anthony Mason, I mean, Greg Anthony, John Starks.

613
00:35:45,160 --> 00:35:48,960
Speaker 1: A lot of these guys had screws loose too. Thank

614
00:35:49,000 --> 00:35:52,160
Speaker 1: God I had my David's boys who weren't all there.

615
00:35:53,120 --> 00:35:58,520
Speaker 1: LaSalle Thompson wasn't all there. Sam Mitchell not all there,

616
00:35:58,840 --> 00:36:01,480
Speaker 1: so we could kind of like go toe to toe

617
00:36:01,640 --> 00:36:05,640
Speaker 1: with the Knicks. But Anthony Mason was a scary dude. Man,

618
00:36:06,320 --> 00:36:09,239
Speaker 1: who's the guy that you worried about after a game

619
00:36:09,840 --> 00:36:17,440
Speaker 1: that you played against two and I love him to death.

620
00:36:18,920 --> 00:36:22,680
Speaker 1: Vernon Maxwell, who's one of my good friends, Mad Max

621
00:36:22,760 --> 00:36:25,040
Speaker 1: ad Max, because you didn't know if he was going

622
00:36:25,080 --> 00:36:26,759
Speaker 1: to come into the locker room and ask for an

623
00:36:26,760 --> 00:36:29,640
Speaker 1: autograph or y'all were going to be scrapping in the

624
00:36:30,200 --> 00:36:34,759
Speaker 1: middle of the visiting team's locker room. And Alvin Robinson,

625
00:36:34,960 --> 00:36:38,359
Speaker 1: I mean Alvin. I knew after my rookie year when

626
00:36:38,440 --> 00:36:42,360
Speaker 1: John Long came to me and said, never and I

627
00:36:42,440 --> 00:36:47,160
Speaker 1: mean absolutely, never readge say a word to Albert Robinson.

628
00:36:47,360 --> 00:36:49,080
Speaker 1: Just let him play his game. If he found you

629
00:36:49,200 --> 00:36:52,839
Speaker 1: hard to say good, don't eat, don't even look at

630
00:36:52,920 --> 00:36:57,919
Speaker 1: him because his eyes are steely black, don't even talk

631
00:36:58,000 --> 00:37:00,680
Speaker 1: to him. So he didn't know what you're going to

632
00:37:00,760 --> 00:37:03,640
Speaker 1: get between Alvin and mad Mass. Well, you know the

633
00:37:04,239 --> 00:37:07,040
Speaker 1: Mark love them both. Now, Mark Jackson tells that story

634
00:37:07,040 --> 00:37:10,839
Speaker 1: about Alvin Robertson You're playing dice, and he said, they

635
00:37:10,920 --> 00:37:15,120
Speaker 1: know he's cheating, and everybody's afraid to call him on

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Speaker 1: on cheating. He had loaded dice. Crazy, just crazy. Oh God,

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Speaker 1: and you survived. I survived. I'm here speaking with you

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Speaker 1: and my dadets man. All right, well, so you got

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Speaker 1: the Phoenix Sun. But you're not traveling. You're not traveling,

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Speaker 1: not traveling yet, right, not traveling it remotely. Oh, then

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Speaker 1: it doesn't matter. It doesn't matter. Man, still remotely peopill.

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Speaker 1: I just saw where Duncan Robinson is in line for

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Speaker 1: twenty million dollars a year contract. Really yeah, no, that's good.

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Speaker 1: That's good. Imagine if you're twenty years younger, Redge, I

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Speaker 1: will never fall guys for making money. That's what this

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Speaker 1: paved the way so I could make a living, and

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Speaker 1: that's what we're we did now for the Duncan Robinsons

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Speaker 1: of the Year twenty million. Yeah, pretty good. We're a shooter.

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Speaker 1: Go get it. Thank you, Redge, I love you. Talk

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Speaker 1: to you soon. That's the Hall of Famer Reggie Alawisious

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