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Speaker 3: the Gainst the Chronicles podcast with your boy Big Steel
Speaker 3: of my guy Jim. I kind of slipping while he
Speaker 3: was drinking the gatorade. Mm hmm my bad, My bad,
Speaker 3: My bad, my bad.
Speaker 2: You know what we say, trying to stay hydrated, many rated.
Speaker 2: How you feeling over there? I'm doing all right. The
Speaker 2: Homely Little Service was this weekend, so you know, been
Speaker 2: just trying to recuperate from that.
Speaker 3: Yeah. Man, that's always rough, man, It's always rough. When
Speaker 3: we lose people, it's always rough, man. You know. That's
Speaker 3: the thing. Man. It seemed like the older we get, man,
Speaker 3: it's like it become a regular occurrence almost. Man. It's just.
Speaker 2: The more you hear it, man, you just try to
Speaker 2: I guess you try to repeat the pattern.
Speaker 1: Man. Just try to stay healthy and watch your health.
Speaker 2: Man. You know, niggas getting older, so you know, shit,
Speaker 2: that's how it go.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm down. I'm down fifteen pounds man.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm down about ten pounds fifteen myself.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm really trying to lose this knock this weight off, man,
Speaker 3: before my birthday in June, and not so much for
Speaker 3: the looks and aesthetics and all that stuff. Dog, just
Speaker 3: to motherfucker be here right.
Speaker 1: It's crazy.
Speaker 2: I'm saying, gotta run to the doctor just to make
Speaker 2: sure you're gonna be you know, straight for tomorrow.
Speaker 3: Yeah, for real, I do my physical Larry six months, dog,
Speaker 3: you know. But I was really tripping today. Man. It's
Speaker 3: just it seemed like we lived in a day and age, man,
Speaker 3: where people don't lost their damn mind. Everybody's just real
Speaker 3: money hungry and people is willing to do anything for
Speaker 3: that paper nowadays.
Speaker 2: I blame it on the status of of of what
Speaker 2: has been created by social media and content and you know, Fay,
Speaker 2: that's what uh you know, that's what's the people's favorite
Speaker 2: shit now. So you know, you can be rich. You
Speaker 2: can get rich by just talking about motherfuckers. Man, Oh
Speaker 2: for real, for real, for real. You know, it's a
Speaker 2: whole bunch of stuff going on that we get into.
Speaker 2: But this whole thing with Shannon Sharp really tripped me out. Man.
Speaker 3: Homegirl is going after him for fifty million dollars, and
Speaker 3: the coldest thing about it, he didn't raid for her.
Speaker 3: He didn't do nothing with some consensual shit they had
Speaker 3: going on, and she's really trying to get paid. And
Speaker 3: I guess it's the same attorney as Tony Buzzby guy.
Speaker 3: I think they need to lock that motherfuck up.
Speaker 1: Now.
Speaker 2: What's going is And so somebody then came out the
Speaker 2: world work with some false allegations or something.
Speaker 3: Pretty much. This is what they saying. I'm gonna pull
Speaker 3: it up real quick, pretty much. He has rape allegations
Speaker 3: and I don't understand how it could be a rape
Speaker 3: allegation when it was a consensual relationship. All right, So
Speaker 3: let me see now. But this is the funny thing.
Speaker 3: And court documents filed in Nevada on April twentieth, a
Speaker 3: court in the NBC Sports the woman identified as Jane
Speaker 3: Dowitsch you Sharp of sexually assaulting her on multiple occasions,
Speaker 3: as will as making verbal threats. Sharp strongly denied those allegations,
Speaker 3: calling the lawsuit the shakedown on behalf of Jane Doe's attorney,
Speaker 3: Tony Busby. The athlete later out of Jane Doe's supposed
Speaker 3: identity in a video statement. Sharp's attorneys have acknowledged he
Speaker 3: previously attempted to settle Jane Doe's claim for payment of
Speaker 3: at least ten million, but she turned down his offer
Speaker 3: of mediation. So that's the thing right there with me, dog,
Speaker 3: if everything is one hundred, why are you trying to
Speaker 3: settle with her for ten million dollars? That's a lot
Speaker 3: of bread, bro.
Speaker 2: Yeah, because a lot of dudes, Because a lot of
Speaker 2: niggas get themselves in situations just by acknowledging the fact
Speaker 2: that you fucked with the Broad that might bring some
Speaker 2: you know, an attorney gonna tell you we might not
Speaker 2: we might can't win it because it's gonna be a
Speaker 2: it's gonna be a case of he says, She say hmm.
Speaker 2: And so now you want to take that to the jury,
Speaker 2: and you know there's a fifty to fifty chance you
Speaker 2: might not win, so we might try to. You know,
Speaker 2: they like shit, you want to give up fifty or
Speaker 2: you want to give up ten.
Speaker 3: I guess that. Again, here we go with the court
Speaker 3: of public opinions. So she's following a fifty million lock,
Speaker 3: a fifty million dollar loss to it against him. Right,
Speaker 3: what they accused him of was committing assault, sexual assault
Speaker 3: battery against an unidentified woman. The court docs obtained. Jamee
Speaker 3: Door alleged that she met Sharp at the Los Angeles
Speaker 3: gen when she was twenty years old and he was
Speaker 3: in his mid fifties. The laws to Jane Doe recalled
Speaker 3: that her first encounter was Sharp involved the athlete offer
Speaker 3: him to buy her fate tits if she want to wait.
Speaker 3: Lost competition. According to Jane, though the pier had a
Speaker 3: rocky consensual relationship over two years. Though she alleged that
Speaker 3: Sharp inflicted intentional emotional distress. Among the litany of allegations,
Speaker 3: Jane dory q sharper sometimes recording their sexual activity without
Speaker 3: her consent and then showing the footage to others. See
Speaker 3: that's what might get you know that that you know,
Speaker 3: that's the ship, right that that might got Shannon, that
Speaker 3: that's what got his ass right there, him filming and
Speaker 3: broads without the consent because he just got caught up
Speaker 3: in some ship where he was on wine, moaning and
Speaker 3: groaning and got caught up with somebody. He said it
Speaker 3: was an accident, but he might be you know, Shannon
Speaker 3: might be a little freak though.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, he definitely, he tells you he you know,
Speaker 2: he liked to go a couple of rounds. But yeah,
Speaker 2: that's that's the you know, that the predicament that you
Speaker 2: get yourself in sometimes when you have that celebrity status,
Speaker 2: sometimes you gotta put yourself in a predicament of going.
Speaker 2: You know, just like they say, all money ain't good money,
Speaker 2: all pussy ain't good pussy either. Just a vice versa
Speaker 2: for females too. You know, you gotta watch, you gotta
Speaker 2: watch situations, and you know, him being who he is,
Speaker 2: you know, and probably who knows if it wasn't just
Speaker 2: a plot from the get go.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but you know what, looking at this, it's making
Speaker 3: me think, hey, that the mother dude. You know, Shannon
Speaker 3: might be as not be as innocent as I thought
Speaker 3: he was. Because ten million dollars a lot of kick.
Speaker 3: That's not no go away money, bro, that's not no
Speaker 3: I can see if it was for somebody at this status,
Speaker 3: I could see if it was five, half a million,
Speaker 3: a million dollars, you know, going about your business. I
Speaker 3: got a big deal coming up. I don't want this
Speaker 3: in the way going to signs. Give this. I'm not
Speaker 3: giving the mother fuck a ten million. If I'm innocent,
Speaker 3: door dog.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, if you if you know that, you
Speaker 2: ain't really dead shit and you stand on the ground
Speaker 2: of you know, check this out. Everything was consensual. I
Speaker 2: ain't never took nothing from you. So you can go
Speaker 2: screaming and cry and all you want to. But for
Speaker 2: a nigga to jump off and offer ten million, that's
Speaker 2: because you know something happened. Yet something done, something took place.
Speaker 2: So from there, you though, he figured, like like the
Speaker 2: lawyers saying, we might can't beat it. And if you
Speaker 2: have acknowledged that you have you know, had you know,
Speaker 2: encounters with this female, then shit, you might want to
Speaker 2: think about offering the bitch five or ten and seeing
Speaker 2: if shit make that and go away.
Speaker 3: Yeah. So, it says Sherb is alleged to have confrontic
Speaker 3: Janie du after she started ignoring his cause, leading to
Speaker 3: an incident of forcible six without her consent. In October
Speaker 3: twenty twenty four. The woman reported in her court filing,
Speaker 3: and Sharp legally raped her again in January twenty twenty
Speaker 3: five without wearing a condo. Her thirteen page complain states
Speaker 3: a woman can say yes to consensual sexual relationship with
Speaker 3: a man ninety nine times, but when she says no
Speaker 3: even once, that no means no. Defending Shinning Sharp, a
Speaker 3: man who is accustomed to getting what he wants completely
Speaker 3: fails to understand his basic concept. You know, the only
Speaker 3: person to know what happened, man, that's him and her
Speaker 3: and God. Right, there are only three entities that know, right,
Speaker 3: So I ain't gonna get into who innocent, who guilty,
Speaker 3: right because she could very well be telling the truth.
Speaker 3: He could very well be telling the truth. But again,
Speaker 3: I don't think you offer nobody no ten million dollars
Speaker 3: dog if you ain't done nothing wrong, because you know,
Speaker 3: mad fa million ain't shit right for somebody like him,
Speaker 3: especially right, especially when you've got other things going on.
Speaker 3: We talked about this on the show before. Sometimes, Bro,
Speaker 3: it's just best to get certain people out the way,
Speaker 3: you feel what I'm saying, because they can cost you
Speaker 3: more money in the long run, because the publicity ain't good.
Speaker 3: You know what, I'm saying bad publicity. You're about to
Speaker 3: get a new deal just to scare somebody off, specially
Speaker 3: going to stuff in this media space, you know, because
Speaker 3: people media is all about advertising, and potential advertisers don't
Speaker 3: want to sponsor nobody that just accused of rate.
Speaker 2: Definitely they want to they pull that contract real quick.
Speaker 2: So you know, for somebody like him, it was probably advised.
Speaker 2: You might want to just go and offer her ten million.
Speaker 2: You know, let me get with the Tarney and offer
Speaker 2: them maybe ten million, and once you do that, they like,
Speaker 2: we got them. Nah, we don't want to take that offer.
Speaker 2: We want fifty.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and it's getting to be now. See, I'm gonna
Speaker 3: tell you what MESSI step up like this. There are
Speaker 3: so many thirsty ass people out here, man. That's why
Speaker 3: insurance is high right out man, because everybody is falling
Speaker 3: lawsuits off for every little thing, right and you almost
Speaker 3: beast it said. Then if you don't want to lose
Speaker 3: what you got, because like you said, it's a chance
Speaker 3: you could lose because the court of public opinion is
Speaker 3: a motherfucker. Yeah.
Speaker 2: Shit, you might be telling one hundred percent truth, but shit,
Speaker 2: you you might can't convince some motherfucker that shit from
Speaker 2: where they live, from where they sit, and it smelled
Speaker 2: different shit.
Speaker 3: Exactly like like you know what. And I'm not gonna
Speaker 3: get too much into this man because it gets kind
Speaker 3: of tricky, bro. But it's just like this whole thing
Speaker 3: going on with Big U, Right, it's going to be
Speaker 3: damn near impossible for him to have a fair trial
Speaker 3: with all the stuff that's going on. You got to
Speaker 3: think about this jewelry, right, No one is no, nobody
Speaker 3: can't hide. You can't hide from social media nowadays, right,
Speaker 3: you can't hid hearing stuff. People is always talking stuff.
Speaker 3: Whether you're in the barbershop, you know, you hear people
Speaker 3: talking about this stuff. You could be in the restaurant.
Speaker 3: You're gonna hear somebody talking about it. You just can't
Speaker 3: escape it. Right, So you can't hear but the former
Speaker 3: opinion on certain things, right, you know, people hear about
Speaker 3: all this stuff that he supposedly did or may have done.
Speaker 3: You know, they're making them look like a minace. I mean, but.
Speaker 2: Hm, what they doing is doing with the court of
Speaker 2: opinion and those and those people do. When you got
Speaker 2: somebody whose name has resignated throughout LA and within the
Speaker 2: game ties and the drug world, and you know trying
Speaker 2: to You know, it's just it's unfortunate when you have
Speaker 2: that stigma and that reputation on you that you know
Speaker 2: it's gonna follow you, and who knows how long you
Speaker 2: know they've been creeping and cutting around the corners and
Speaker 2: building cases against Big U because of his walk in
Speaker 2: the street life.
Speaker 1: You feel me.
Speaker 2: You you got to be fear for any nigga who
Speaker 2: you know has a you know, a sort of a
Speaker 2: reputation in the streets like that. To be a big,
Speaker 2: well known figure, you gotta be kind of nervous and
Speaker 2: shit because who knows what they doing downtown? You get
Speaker 2: me and the motherfucking them and them towers down there,
Speaker 2: them detectives and their motherfucking DA's and prosecutors.
Speaker 1: You never know.
Speaker 2: You feel me, Your shit is straight. Like you said,
Speaker 2: Big You've been stomping the streets for a long time.
Speaker 2: Who knows how long this shit go back that they
Speaker 2: looking at.
Speaker 3: You know what the thing is, man? What I think
Speaker 3: me and you both know Big You personal on a
Speaker 3: personal level. Right, I'm gonna tell you how I met
Speaker 3: Big You. I met Big You with you football, right,
Speaker 3: I met him through my homeboy, Tony Lane. And when
Speaker 3: I first met Big U. You know what we did
Speaker 3: the first time we met, talk shit to each other.
Speaker 3: But who's team of wo who Oh?
Speaker 1: Definitely.
Speaker 3: I just know he was a god man that was
Speaker 3: proud of the work he was doing and the kids
Speaker 3: over there Crenshaw. He made that his life's work pretty much.
Speaker 3: So that's the Big You I know. And I'm not
Speaker 3: gonna sit up here and say Big You was no angel, right,
Speaker 3: you know, we all got to pass somehow, right. The
Speaker 3: Big You that I knew was a good dude. It
Speaker 3: was a good dude. I didn't know him on that
Speaker 3: he offered, Hey, man, you and your wife get whatever
Speaker 3: y'all want from the snack bar. You know what I'm saying,
Speaker 3: laughing and choking. That's the Big Q. I know. He's
Speaker 3: been on our show before. I've never known him. I
Speaker 3: ain't never known like Big You. Ain't never sweat at
Speaker 3: me though he ain't never did. He ain't never did
Speaker 3: nothing but be kind to me. Dog to be honest
Speaker 3: with you. Yeah, so similar.
Speaker 2: You know you've heard about Big U, especially if you
Speaker 2: ran and affiliated yourself with the street life. So he's
Speaker 2: been a figure that's been known out there, especially through
Speaker 2: gang ties. And you know, if you're set, you know,
Speaker 2: if your neighborhood was in beefing with certain neighborhoods, you
Speaker 2: know those were niggas you clicked with or chilled with.
Speaker 2: Same situation. You know, I was coaching the football team
Speaker 2: for Snoops League. He had to crunch all rams, I
Speaker 2: had to promone the Steelers.
Speaker 1: Uh.
Speaker 2: We we met in same situations on the football field,
Speaker 2: and the relationship was always mutual. It was about coaching
Speaker 2: and the kids. And he's always been invested since I've
Speaker 2: known them. You know what I'm saying as far as
Speaker 2: the kids and the organizations go. But like I said,
Speaker 2: you don't know what be happening behind closed doors, and said,
Speaker 2: a lot of niggas, you know, a lot of our
Speaker 2: Connor parts in this. In this you know, even though
Speaker 2: they get mother, even though they get situations that might
Speaker 2: probably change their life or whatever, sometimes niggas keep their
Speaker 2: hands still in the street life. You feel me because
Speaker 2: it gives it edge. Still get me, uh you know,
Speaker 2: turn it into the corporate man. People look at you differently,
Speaker 2: probably want to test your stature or whatever. So sometimes
Speaker 2: you feel you got to keep that foot in the streets,
Speaker 2: because that's the respect you get from niggas.
Speaker 1: You feel me, so exactly.
Speaker 3: Exactly, you know, whatever it is, bro, he deserves to
Speaker 3: have a fair trial. That's his right, you feel me.
Speaker 3: And I think that it's gonna be really difficult to
Speaker 3: have a fair trial with all this stuff just going around,
Speaker 3: because it seems like that's what it's designed to do
Speaker 3: any potential juror. Oh, let's put this out here, a bottom,
Speaker 3: let's put that out there. People get intimidated, people get scared. Oh,
Speaker 3: we need to get him off the street. He's a minace, man.
Speaker 3: You know how many more worse dudes it is out here,
Speaker 3: man that that's from and around. Yeah, some niggas out here,
Speaker 3: like it's it's a food with it out here, there's
Speaker 3: foods with it, you know.
Speaker 2: So you know it's some you know, young, it's some
Speaker 2: real young, deadly niggas out here running around whose look
Speaker 2: at life is very differently than you know, a fifty
Speaker 2: plus year old man. You know, as far as you know,
Speaker 2: the walks of life in the street is concerned. But
Speaker 2: this is l a you know, being la being. You know,
Speaker 2: his reputation in the streets, you know, his the fear
Speaker 2: that he is probably putting certain people over the years
Speaker 2: of you know whatever. So you just have to hope,
Speaker 2: you know, that he could get a fair trial because
Speaker 2: you know, I don't think there will be any people,
Speaker 2: you know, in the line of his peers, you know,
Speaker 2: on the jury.
Speaker 1: You feel me so.
Speaker 2: And I'm pretty sure you know, And then it goes
Speaker 2: to you know how biased that's gonna be?
Speaker 1: Feel me? Do people?
Speaker 2: Are they gonna pick people who have the reputation of
Speaker 2: knowing who you was just by name? You feel me
Speaker 2: because known by name by a lot of people just
Speaker 2: by name.
Speaker 1: You know.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's a lot of people that have never actually
Speaker 3: met him, but they've heard stuff about him, and usually
Speaker 3: that stuff is less than flattering. Exactly, usually is less
Speaker 3: than flattering. I just think when you when you go
Speaker 3: to court, man, you're supposed to be represented, they say
Speaker 3: by jury of your prick peers. The jury of your
Speaker 3: peers are gonna judge you, right, And so when it's
Speaker 3: a jury of your peers, you should think you would
Speaker 3: think that they would have people who actually from the
Speaker 3: Crenshaw area who know him personally and they could speak
Speaker 3: to who he is as a man, right, because I
Speaker 3: know plenty people, man, who used to be monstrous back
Speaker 3: in the day that don't change the way they are.
Speaker 3: I got very good friends, man who used to be
Speaker 3: beast with it, man fools with it, and they're the
Speaker 3: greatest people you want to meet now. Dog, They're helpful.
Speaker 3: They go to church every Sunday, married like children.
Speaker 1: Definitely, you know.
Speaker 2: Some of some of you know, the homies you know
Speaker 2: who have you know, experienced harder lives than others. You know,
Speaker 2: niggas have gotten mature and kids and grandkids and steady
Speaker 2: job and income and found them a woman who can
Speaker 2: you know, calm their nerves and put them on the
Speaker 2: straight path. A few of the homies have done that. Yeah,
Speaker 2: I said, there's still some of the homies who you know. Unfortunately,
Speaker 2: you know this is all we got.
Speaker 3: Yeah, And you know what's funny, man, it's not that
Speaker 3: you know, start no bunch of mess. I'll pay attention
Speaker 3: to certain stuff that people say. And me and you've
Speaker 3: both have been in a lot of situations. We know
Speaker 3: a lot of people out here, man, We've been privy
Speaker 3: to a lot of real g shit that don't happen.
Speaker 1: You feel me, exactly.
Speaker 3: I listen to people online tell a lie sometimes and
Speaker 3: they looking at these dudes like the experts, and I'm
Speaker 3: talking about situations that I've actually been at, and I'm like, man,
Speaker 3: I didn't see dude over there. He wasn't there when
Speaker 3: that happened. It was just mean such and such. And
Speaker 3: I hear people lie about it, and you hear them
Speaker 3: twist up the story and just to get a little
Speaker 3: clock right because it sounds good to say certain shit online,
Speaker 3: I guess and get people like, oh man, you hear
Speaker 3: what such and such said, and they just lying dog
Speaker 3: like a lot of these dudes lying about shit that
Speaker 3: they say happened.
Speaker 2: Well, that's because the success of what the success of
Speaker 2: what internet and social media has provided for some niggas. Now,
Speaker 2: like I said, you don't have to have facts about shit. Now,
Speaker 2: all you gotta do is open your mouth and create
Speaker 2: some shit, create a rumor, start some motherfucking or shit,
Speaker 2: and people gonna attach to it like flies on shit,
Speaker 2: and everybody wants to hear it and see it and
Speaker 2: wants to see you promoted and talk more about it
Speaker 2: and take it to the next level. And the whole
Speaker 2: time you know you're looking for the dollar sign.
Speaker 3: That's what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: Man.
Speaker 3: It gives to the point, like even the stuff that's
Speaker 3: going on with Diddy right now, I think Diddy a
Speaker 3: watch dog. You know. I don't know what Whisco had
Speaker 3: to happen man for him to get you know. But
Speaker 3: but again the court of public opinion Dave painted Diddy
Speaker 3: as a sexual DEVI hend right, there's no way he's
Speaker 3: probably gonna get off with the stuff. He's not gonna
Speaker 3: come out unscathed because I think he's how much time
Speaker 3: has he served so far with him being haven't been
Speaker 3: there a couple of years now.
Speaker 2: Any it's been about it at least.
Speaker 3: So think about that. How quick I remember when this
Speaker 3: first happened. Even if this man got off, he only
Speaker 3: lost two years of his life right now, bro right,
Speaker 3: fighting some bullsh it ain't no telling how much Bready
Speaker 3: don't spend.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean shit.
Speaker 2: You know when you got them high priced lawyers and
Speaker 2: you spending millions, you get me, you you basically blowing
Speaker 2: through your whole life savings and shit just to keep
Speaker 2: them lawyers. Because you know they say when you hire
Speaker 2: the best expensive lawyers, you're gonna get a better motherfucking
Speaker 2: outlook than anybody else, you feel you feel me came
Speaker 2: from no public defender or no regular lawyer when you're
Speaker 2: when you're Niggora and you know sexual trafficking, and you know,
Speaker 2: I see they try to dismiss some of the charges
Speaker 2: and shit, but you know they still got him on
Speaker 2: the sex traffic and shit and all of that. So
Speaker 2: it's just gonna be hard, man, Something don't Something's gonna
Speaker 2: happen at the end of the day. You get me,
Speaker 2: You're gonna be happening some time or you're done, been
Speaker 2: lost about thirty forty million fighting case.
Speaker 3: Bro, I'm gonna tell you, like this, man, the crazy
Speaker 3: thing about it, Bro, you can really get fucked up
Speaker 3: out here, dog making the wrong decision. These were guys
Speaker 3: like I never thought I would see Diddy in the
Speaker 3: position he in now. I never thought I would see
Speaker 3: Big You in the position he in nowt Brouh. I
Speaker 3: thought Big You was like, you know, like above all
Speaker 3: that shit right now. You know what I'm saying, Like,
Speaker 3: he's a dude that survived. You feel me, He's done
Speaker 3: this time in the past. He done, came home. He
Speaker 3: coaching football, got the sun, the NFL doing his thing.
Speaker 3: You would think DoD like this passing, But man, you
Speaker 3: can get caught up so quick out here. Bro.
Speaker 2: Yeah, depending on the like I said, the people you keep,
Speaker 2: uh you know, the situations you put yourself in. Uh
Speaker 2: you know, like I said, some niggas might feel like
Speaker 2: I need to keep that foot in the streets to
Speaker 2: keep my reputation as being that sinister cold nig ca.
Speaker 1: Still you're getting.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm coaching football and I'm doing this and I'm
Speaker 2: doing that. But you never know what be the idea
Speaker 2: because if you, if you, if you on the straight
Speaker 2: narrow and you're done, left situations behind, and and all
Speaker 2: this time, a motherfucker ain't been able to touch me.
Speaker 2: Maybe I'll maybe I'll should you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: But you never know. Man, you never know what niggas
Speaker 2: be into. That's the whole thing. And ship and some
Speaker 2: people thinking money and status makes you change your situation,
Speaker 2: But it don't.
Speaker 3: It just influenced it more. No, it don't change your
Speaker 3: damn thing. And if anything, it makes stuff just more
Speaker 3: magnified and make it worse.
Speaker 2: You influence more because now you like you know, ship,
Speaker 2: you you do the you're doing the John Gotti ro
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: You supposed to be low key not doing this.
Speaker 2: You're supposed to be hush hushed, and then you you
Speaker 2: you doing this, You doing that, You're doing that. You
Speaker 2: got your name all out there, You're in the public,
Speaker 2: you getting knowing that you might have skeletons. You always
Speaker 2: got to watch out for the skeletons, man, and then
Speaker 2: you can't trust the nigga you feel, mem.
Speaker 3: Yeah, let me ask you this eight. You know you
Speaker 3: done been your mainstay in the rep game, right, a
Speaker 3: one career Hall of Fame career. Right if you ever
Speaker 3: had instances man, to where you thought somebody was possibly
Speaker 3: trying to sex you up.
Speaker 2: Oh, it's been a few times where you feel like
Speaker 2: the niggas be trying to set you up or trying
Speaker 2: to get you to a certain situation. Uh, you have
Speaker 2: to be careful, man, because jealousy is a motherfucker. Jealousy
Speaker 2: and hatred is a motherfucker. It's a real life thing.
Speaker 2: Evil is a real life ship is situation. You get me,
Speaker 2: And don't ever think that you know there's not a
Speaker 2: motherfucker out there jealous of you because of what you
Speaker 2: have or what you've accomplished. And like I've always said,
Speaker 2: if a nigga think he can get you, he gonna
Speaker 2: get you. So you just have to be careful. You
Speaker 2: have to watch motherfuckers, man, because I'm you know, I'm
Speaker 2: I'm pretty sure I'm not the only you know, one
Speaker 2: who's been in the situation to where he felt like, oh,
Speaker 2: you know what's going on here? Or you know, you
Speaker 2: have to you have to play your cards right man,
Speaker 2: with shit because like you, when you come from that lifestyle,
Speaker 2: there is no rules. You get me and I walked
Speaker 2: that life too, so there was no free pass for
Speaker 2: me that a nigga felt like if he wanted to
Speaker 2: set me up, or if a nigga wanted to rob
Speaker 2: me or whatever, you don't getting no free pass.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you know what the thing is, it's a lot
Speaker 3: because there are no repercussions. Today, people could literally say
Speaker 3: what they want to and get away with it and
Speaker 3: nothing will happen, right Whereas back in the day, if
Speaker 3: you said the wrong thing about somebody, you was gonna
Speaker 3: probably get your teeth knocked down your throat, or you
Speaker 3: probably be found somewhere, you know, holes in your ass,
Speaker 3: you know what I mean?
Speaker 1: It was.
Speaker 3: A lot of us. It was real consequences. Bro.
Speaker 2: A lot of our shit was on site too, Like
Speaker 2: we didn't really do a lot of I don't want
Speaker 2: to say talking about niggas. You get me. You talking
Speaker 2: about a nigga, then you're giving a nigga heads up
Speaker 2: that you don't like it. If that's the situation that
Speaker 2: you're dealing with, you feel me. You're supposed to be
Speaker 2: quiet on the set about your dastardly deeds. You feel
Speaker 2: me so. But like you said today, it's it's not
Speaker 2: even a it's how everybody gets they motherfucking money ship off.
Speaker 1: It's a money it's a money conspiracy.
Speaker 2: Nowadays, I can sit right here and I can talk
Speaker 2: about every nigga that I don't even gotta know a nigga.
Speaker 2: I'll just go talk about it, and then it's gonna
Speaker 2: turn into some worldwide controversy and beef and whatever, and
Speaker 2: nigga's gonna be making money off.
Speaker 1: I guarantee you.
Speaker 3: It's gonna get and it's gonna get thousands of thousands
Speaker 3: of abuse, hundred thousands, maybe maybe millions, depends on what
Speaker 3: you come on here and say.
Speaker 2: Depending on who you start talking about and who you
Speaker 2: disliking and who you whatever telling stories about?
Speaker 1: Man?
Speaker 2: Please, you know, shit, you get a million motherfuckers peeping
Speaker 2: your shit out just just for that, cause you're making money,
Speaker 2: just because you want to sit up and talk about motherfuckers.
Speaker 3: That's what I'm saying a lot of you know, it's
Speaker 3: one thing if you're telling the truth about somebody, but
Speaker 3: you can embellish like a motherfucker and oh for real,
Speaker 3: and it's gonna turn it the facts, Oh god, you
Speaker 3: did this and that. Like it's become a thing where
Speaker 3: that's to go to. Now. You remember before when a
Speaker 3: motherfucker was going on a promo to her, they might
Speaker 3: get their rhymes together and get their stuff right so
Speaker 3: they can have a bunch of different freestyles, and you know,
Speaker 3: they wanted to make sure they close and stuff was right.
Speaker 3: Nowadays there's people thinking, man, who can I talk about?
Speaker 3: What can I say on here? That's gonna make everybody
Speaker 3: go crazy? Who can I this? Who can I dis Like?
Speaker 3: I saw some stuff from Aziya Banks today that said
Speaker 3: that Kanye West was on one of them Diddy tapes.
Speaker 3: So how does she know.
Speaker 2: That, Like you said, somebody done told her some shit
Speaker 2: or unless or unless you're talking from from experience of
Speaker 2: being there. How would you know, that's what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: How would you know unless you what you got hold
Speaker 2: of a tape you want to throw They two sent
Speaker 2: saying to the mother fucking uh. You know, it's like
Speaker 2: you want to put the lighter fluid on the on
Speaker 2: the pit, and shit sparked the fire up some more
Speaker 2: should have died down, should have died down, and next
Speaker 2: thing you know, somebody else want to grab the ship
Speaker 2: and see the flame go up. You give me like
Speaker 2: it's amusement to play with the barbecue pitt.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, And because I guess because Kanye got
Speaker 3: a song on his new album coming up. He got
Speaker 3: a song on there gets called Cousin where he admits
Speaker 3: to giving one of his male cousins sloppy top of
Speaker 3: your or you know what I mean. And it's like
Speaker 3: it's just all kind of weird stuff, man, Like I
Speaker 3: don't know what else. I don't know where he going
Speaker 3: with that. Man, I don't know what his orientation is.
Speaker 3: But that was just getting real weird now, bro, because shit,
Speaker 3: the weird shit always make the money. They liked him
Speaker 3: wear those when you being normal and you're trying to
Speaker 3: be straightforward. They think that shit is too motherfucking boring
Speaker 3: and plane. They like to follow the weird thos and
Speaker 3: listen to crazy shit. You get me, So, who know,
Speaker 3: like I said, the era of pure shit is that
Speaker 3: shit been dead to me?
Speaker 1: You feel me?
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's dead to know with, that's dead to know with.
Speaker 3: You know who was funny man? You know one episode
Speaker 3: we hit x on, he called me right and he
Speaker 3: was like, still man, that interview we did, got a
Speaker 3: lot of attitions, a lot of people blowing up my phone.
Speaker 3: He said. The one thing I messed up at he said, Man,
Speaker 3: I got so kind up and talked about this stuff.
Speaker 3: I ain't talking about none of my music. Yeah, and
Speaker 3: that's what and that's what.
Speaker 2: That's what's unfortunate, because you want to when you do
Speaker 2: these shows and these interviews and everything, and especially if
Speaker 2: you're an artist, you know, you want to promote your craft.
Speaker 2: You want to you want motherfuckers to reflect on you know,
Speaker 2: you know, the yesteryear, not even the yester years. But
Speaker 2: I'm still around here doing shit. I might not I
Speaker 2: got the backing of the powerful United labels and shit,
Speaker 2: but you know I'm still making quality music. For myself
Speaker 2: and a few fans. And you know, it seems like
Speaker 2: all motherfuckers want to question is the negativity that's going on.
Speaker 2: Nobody wants to focus on what shit, nigga. You did
Speaker 2: a video and I've seen you put out a new
Speaker 2: independent project, and you know, I listened to this song
Speaker 2: and that song and this is pretty good and whatever.
Speaker 2: You don't hear none of that purity in music nowadays.
Speaker 2: No more, everybody know what's the business and what's the
Speaker 2: bullshit cracking?
Speaker 3: Yeah, because that's not what's gonna move to needle now.
Speaker 3: Like I told X, I said, yeah, you sure put shit.
Speaker 3: As soon as you said that stuff that you had
Speaker 3: to say about old Boy, you should have broke in, like, yeah,
Speaker 3: I got this new song out, I got this going
Speaker 3: on Wumpy Wham, and it had been all good right
Speaker 3: while you got a captive audience. It's just we in
Speaker 3: a day and age bro to where I think it's
Speaker 3: gonna get worse. We go see some people get probably unerlive.
Speaker 3: You know you gotta say unerlive. Now. You can't say
Speaker 3: somebody getting murked. Somebody's going to get underlive probably on
Speaker 3: one of these shows one day. I guarantee you Remember
Speaker 3: I said it. It's April twenty, twenty twenty five. Remember
Speaker 3: I said this, on this day, somebody is gonna get
Speaker 3: smoked on one of these shows, are stabbed or something
Speaker 3: like that. Why should I tell you? Should I wouldn't
Speaker 3: doubt it. You get me or shit, that might be
Speaker 3: somebody's uh, dark, motherfucking way of getting more motherfucking podcast
Speaker 3: views or more fucking value for their content. Let a
Speaker 3: motherfucker come in there and smoke somebody or shit a
Speaker 3: shoot up a podcast studio. Man, I'm gonna tell you now,
Speaker 3: and I'm trying my best not to say this dude's name.
Speaker 3: You know, I promise you that I wasn't gonna be
Speaker 3: missing right. But like I said, I've seen a dude lie,
Speaker 3: just blatantly tell lies. And guess what I'm telling. Those
Speaker 3: lies got him involved in the situation that he might
Speaker 3: not be able to get out of just telling stories.
Speaker 2: You gotta watch what you say, man. Like I said,
Speaker 2: everything is not for fun and games. People take shit
Speaker 2: seriously when you're talking shit about them, and some people
Speaker 2: take that ship to the level of nigga. I'm trying
Speaker 2: to shut you down because you know your spread and
Speaker 2: dirty rumors and flagrant shit about me when I'm trying
Speaker 2: to live as a motherfucking grown man and got grandkids
Speaker 2: out here, and you know people watching you know what
Speaker 2: I do. And now I got a motherfucker like you, unfortunately,
Speaker 2: who's just built on stupidity. Want to want to try
Speaker 2: to see me fall? You give me like I said,
Speaker 2: like Biggie said, they pray on your downfall.
Speaker 3: And on top of that, bro, on top of that,
Speaker 3: the Alphabet Boys is always watching. So why you going
Speaker 3: there doing this and that they just you are placing
Speaker 3: it to real events. Oh, we was investigating that anyway.
Speaker 3: This dude just told us he had something to do
Speaker 3: with that, so let's go get him now. And it's
Speaker 3: kind of hard, like like, what are you gonna do
Speaker 3: when it's off, sit and done? Oh? Man, I was
Speaker 3: just capping for the internet, Ain't that with Kip D
Speaker 3: said he was doing? Man, I was just telling stories
Speaker 3: for the Internet. No, but it ain't gonna work. You
Speaker 3: set up here on all these platforms and said this
Speaker 3: and that. Now I was just now I was just fake,
Speaker 3: but this stuff really happened. So it was all fishes now.
Speaker 3: But we got you right here. We got discovery right
Speaker 3: here said this happened, and you donna place yourself right there,
Speaker 3: So tell us what else you.
Speaker 1: Know exactly, like, don't play that.
Speaker 2: You can't play that wrong, you get me, you can't
Speaker 2: play that it's just for the Internet role because motherfuckers
Speaker 2: ain't buying that shit.
Speaker 3: No, people not buying it, bro, And they really, man,
Speaker 3: people is getting them.
Speaker 2: People ain't buy they liking and then they going back,
Speaker 2: going away a minute, this shit happened, Well, that shit happened.
Speaker 2: Well they that happened. So how can you say it's
Speaker 2: all for CAP and the Internet, you know when it's
Speaker 2: actual factuals that in this we have this ship, We
Speaker 2: have discovered this ship, so you know, speaking.
Speaker 3: On stuff, just speaking on stuff, man, seriously, it's again, man,
Speaker 3: it consequences this stuff right now, I think just because
Speaker 3: people not seeing consequences. Like when the last time you
Speaker 3: heard about somebody getting socked up or shot or getting
Speaker 3: this taste left out their mouth or something, they say
Speaker 3: it online, you just don't hear it, bro, No.
Speaker 2: Because niggas do shit from afar and from a distance.
Speaker 2: And again, shit, you never know the nigga that's talking
Speaker 2: shit might be having the ship set up with the
Speaker 2: nigga he talking shit about so they can both go
Speaker 2: back and forth and make some money.
Speaker 1: You get me.
Speaker 3: Oh that's a real thing, now, bro, Oh you didn't
Speaker 3: know that. That's a real thing. But set up, are
Speaker 3: you gonna say this? I'm gonna say this about then
Speaker 3: you say about me, and I'm gonna roll up on
Speaker 3: your studio and everything. I might even pop a shot
Speaker 3: up in there to make it look good. People is playing, bro,
Speaker 3: People is playing right now, and it's just I think
Speaker 3: we in this time, day and age, man, where people
Speaker 3: are doing. You know, remember back in the day, man,
Speaker 3: all the old dusty niggas will go get an SSI
Speaker 3: check or try to get an SSI check or get
Speaker 3: on general relief or whatever like that. That's gone now
Speaker 3: that's done. So the YouTube is the new general relief
Speaker 3: for niggas.
Speaker 1: Yeah, cause nigga, I can make me some money.
Speaker 2: I'm gonna get on there, throw me out a song,
Speaker 2: dissed me a nigga, start me a podcast, and do
Speaker 2: this and do that, And that's.
Speaker 1: The new way of making money.
Speaker 3: You give me.
Speaker 2: There is no certified snitching on niggas because everybody's talking
Speaker 2: about everybody.
Speaker 3: Oh for real, for real. You know, the one thing
Speaker 3: means glass is always talk about, right, and the glass
Speaker 3: is just a test to wasted fields. Now, man, I
Speaker 3: told him, I said, you can't you know, this is
Speaker 3: just what it is. You know, when I think this
Speaker 3: stuff started happening, this ain't no new thing. Do you
Speaker 3: remember when Jerry Springer and all them first started getting
Speaker 3: big yup. People just have always liked bullshit.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's what I used to talk to the homie
Speaker 2: Western Peace about all the time. Like, niggas love shit.
Speaker 2: Niggas just love bullshit, and we love to see motherfuckers
Speaker 2: caught up in bullshit. It fascinated us to see another
Speaker 2: motherfucker on some embarrassing shit.
Speaker 1: You know.
Speaker 2: It was fascinating to see bitches fighting on the street,
Speaker 2: or niggas shooting each other, or you know, niggas doing
Speaker 2: embarrassing shit, bitches scrapping in front of people, ripping off
Speaker 2: their hair and all that. Niggas sit off and glorify
Speaker 2: that shit. Then you have motherfuckers be like nah, nah, nah,
Speaker 2: let them the content of today with people just you know,
Speaker 2: back in my days, it'll be a mother funer trying
Speaker 2: to stop. You know, two motherfuckers from getting into it
Speaker 2: knowing what the outcome could really turn into. So if
Speaker 2: we can get this your squashed right quick, you know
Speaker 2: what I'm saying, Let's do that because somebody gonna end
Speaker 2: up dead out here.
Speaker 3: No exactly, you gotta think about it like this, ain't right.
Speaker 3: I've seen people bring people's ops on podcasts knowing like
Speaker 3: some surprise stuff, like some WWF stuff. This dude here
Speaker 3: to and all of a sudden his enemy pop up.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know. I don't know what that's about.
Speaker 2: Like I said, but that be that be that uh
Speaker 2: that be that where niggas then conclude and cahoots together
Speaker 2: and they go, Okay, well shit, we're gonna bring the
Speaker 2: ops up here today, y'all. Niggas be over here. Then
Speaker 2: when y'all see them come in, y'all just you know,
Speaker 2: make it, y'all. I'm gonna go for the pistol or
Speaker 2: some shit like that or whatever.
Speaker 1: Whatever.
Speaker 2: You know, it's all stage. It's all stage.
Speaker 3: And you know, you know the funny thing about it, man,
Speaker 3: all these little dudes that be talking all this crazy stuff.
Speaker 3: I just found out half of these dudes was the rappers. Bro.
Speaker 3: I ain't know none of these niggas rap.
Speaker 2: That's where they get it started from. It starts from
Speaker 2: the rap scene. It's crazy, man, you know, homeboy Dave
Speaker 2: Man shout out to shout out to our attorney Dave.
Speaker 2: He was he manages the little X four cat right,
Speaker 2: you know the cat X for not the four extra
Speaker 2: but the X four cat right.
Speaker 3: Kid that just got locked up. He sent me his
Speaker 3: music a while ago and asked me what I thought
Speaker 3: of it. I said, you know what, this little dude rap.
Speaker 3: I didn't know. I didn't never know he was a rapper.
Speaker 3: I just thought he was a dude from Fort this
Speaker 3: because I had never heard his music before. All I
Speaker 3: known him for was going that of the show and
Speaker 3: just pop and shit, m niggas popping shit. I heard
Speaker 3: his music and I said, you know what, the stuff
Speaker 3: he got going on, he could probably do something with itself.
Speaker 3: He already got a little look to himself. You know,
Speaker 3: it don't take much nowadays. He got a gimmick. You
Speaker 3: feel what I'm saying. Definitely he has a gimmick. And
Speaker 3: I think that's where we're adding now we in this
Speaker 3: pro wrestling era bro to where you gotta have a gimmick.
Speaker 3: You gotta podcast. You better have a gimmick. If you
Speaker 3: don't have a gimmick, guess what motherfuckers go say eight
Speaker 3: or that's boring, it's not exciting because they gonna want
Speaker 3: to hear some bullshit.
Speaker 2: They gonna want to hear some bullshit or see some bullshit.
Speaker 2: That's what it is. Hell Y, see you talk positive
Speaker 2: and see you give me no motherfucking pointers and lessons
Speaker 2: that you've learned that got you through some shit that
Speaker 2: will probably helped me, you know, avoid some shit. Niggas like, nah, nigga,
Speaker 2: what the drama where niggas taking fades at what the
Speaker 2: niggas talking shit about each other with a nigga snatching
Speaker 2: change and pulling out you know, pistols and shit. That's
Speaker 2: what we won't we won't content.
Speaker 3: Hell yeah, I saw that. I was looking at some pictures. Man,
Speaker 3: I think the homie crypt Mac. I think he got him.
Speaker 3: You know, he letting niggas know what he got going
Speaker 3: in jail because this instagram phaged you follow his Instagram page,
Speaker 3: No okay, I followed him right, and he always posts
Speaker 3: new pictures on there. He taking gang at jail house pictures.
Speaker 3: I said, boy, this nigga like really lifting his fantasies out.
Speaker 3: He probably like, Man, I'm in the joint now, I'm
Speaker 3: with the crips. I'm taking pictures. You feel what I'm saying.
Speaker 3: He in there doing this thing. I actually emailed him
Speaker 3: man sent them a thing and said, you know, Friday
Speaker 3: to find out his info to send a few dollars
Speaker 3: to his daughter, right, And I thought about it. I said,
Speaker 3: now here's a dude who really had the chance to
Speaker 3: change his life. You know, he was getting movie office
Speaker 3: and everything else. He had a real character going dog.
Speaker 3: Oh definitely, Hey did the homy Ricks mess with? Did
Speaker 3: the homy Rix mess with Crip Mac?
Speaker 2: I mean, he started listening and following his page, and
Speaker 2: you know, he was the homie. Rich thought he was
Speaker 2: very interesting.
Speaker 3: Crip Mac. I'm gonna tell you Wels think he interested
Speaker 3: mac ten and mac Ten called me one day and said, hey, hey,
Speaker 3: steal this Crip Mac. Nigga's pretty entertained. I didn't know
Speaker 3: what that was at first, because I looked at it.
Speaker 3: I think this nigga's funny. And I asked him, I said, well,
Speaker 3: you do a record with him? And he kind of paused,
Speaker 3: He's I said, damn you do a record with Krip Mac.
Speaker 1: Mhm.
Speaker 3: I told Crip Mac that and I told him, I said, Man,
Speaker 3: Mac ten messed with your stuff. He said, that's nifty.
Speaker 3: He said, tell him I need him on the record.
Speaker 3: Were gon, We're gonna unite the We gonna unite the
Speaker 3: Bloods and the Crips. I laughed like a motherfucker.
Speaker 1: Man.
Speaker 3: Crip Mac is a very.
Speaker 2: Very he definitely uh, he definitely had an image in
Speaker 2: a character to uh, you know that could sustain him
Speaker 2: in a few things.
Speaker 3: Yeah, because the thing is, Bro, he could have win
Speaker 3: the movies. I'm gonna be honest with you do but
Speaker 3: I told him this in personal the show. I think
Speaker 3: Krip Mac done been through a lot of trauma, man,
Speaker 3: and I think that brother needed some help. Mmm. I
Speaker 3: think a lot of people took advantage of him, man,
Speaker 3: and didn't really cultivate. And that's why when I had
Speaker 3: him on the show, you saw we was trying to
Speaker 3: lead him in a whole nother way. You know, like,
Speaker 3: it's other things out here, Bro, for you to do
Speaker 3: outside of what you're doing right now. You feel me,
Speaker 3: And I'm not gonna say that nobody people took advantage
Speaker 3: of me. I don't know if I can say that, bro,
Speaker 3: because he's a grown man that is very conscious of
Speaker 3: what are you doing? Right? And they ain't nobody make
Speaker 3: him do nothing. But I think he could have had
Speaker 3: a lot of stuff going out, and I don't know
Speaker 3: if all that's gonna be there for him when he
Speaker 3: come home, you feel.
Speaker 1: Me, All it depends. You know, there's people.
Speaker 3: I think.
Speaker 2: It's people I think that still interested in his story
Speaker 2: and what he can become after coming out of jail,
Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying. So he still probably has
Speaker 2: a shot of still holding his reputation of you know,
Speaker 2: C mac and whatever he needs to do from there.
Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, I think though, I think we lived in
Speaker 3: one of them areas now. You know, sometimes they do
Speaker 3: them shows when they all about the nineties and they
Speaker 3: go back and look and see what the sensations was
Speaker 3: at that time period. I think when people look at
Speaker 3: this time period, they're gonna be like, what the hell
Speaker 3: was going on there? Man? I think were in the
Speaker 3: area right now do to where all of the people
Speaker 3: that used to kind of get clown in school, you know,
Speaker 3: the people that were slow mm hm. You know the
Speaker 3: people that went to like the I forget what kind
Speaker 3: of classes they called those, and then all the people
Speaker 3: in there weren't necessarily slow, but what was the name
Speaker 3: of that? The developmentally, the mentally you know, the developmental
Speaker 3: lee you know, not people who quite on the spectrum,
Speaker 3: but people who was just just kind of off a
Speaker 3: little bit, right. I remember people used to kind of
Speaker 3: stay away from them cats now but them is the
Speaker 3: cast that's winning right now.
Speaker 2: Oh, definitely, everybody's character has changed in this time, you
Speaker 2: feel me. So you got to be able to accept
Speaker 2: everything nowadays.
Speaker 3: Because it was a time remember that if you if
Speaker 3: you did any kind of drugs, you was looked down
Speaker 3: a punt. You know, you wasn't gonna be a nigga
Speaker 3: to say I smoke crack, I do this, and that.
Speaker 3: It was like it was a bad thing to be
Speaker 3: a fiend. We in the area now where if you're
Speaker 3: a dope fiend, you win. And that's lit. Oh man,
Speaker 3: almost overdosed last night, that's lit. Right.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I took a gang of lean or, I
Speaker 2: bought me some pills and we was lit last night
Speaker 2: and whatever. You know, that's that's how I go down.
Speaker 3: Yeah, nah man, it's like you know that and if
Speaker 3: you a dude that's just dumbest motherfucker dog, you are
Speaker 3: going to win. You are going to win. And in
Speaker 3: no way am I would I ever talk about the
Speaker 3: mentally challenge man, you know the whatever. These people are
Speaker 3: just dumb.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's a few.
Speaker 3: They are just dumb and they and I think some
Speaker 3: of them either they dumb or they have some mental
Speaker 3: things going on. And I just think that it's a
Speaker 3: place for that now. Man, I think people gonna take
Speaker 3: advantage of it. And I think you can make a
Speaker 3: lot of money being like that. Dog. I think you
Speaker 3: can make a lot of money if you got somebody
Speaker 3: around you to know what they have for you're doing
Speaker 3: right exactly because you know, it's a very short window
Speaker 3: for that. Very few people go go be able to
Speaker 3: sustain something like that. Like I look at the Charleston
Speaker 3: White catch Charleston White. He says a lot of crazy shit, man,
Speaker 3: but he has a certain amount of intellect to him.
Speaker 3: Like you could tell he's not dumb. You feel me, right,
Speaker 3: he's not done because some of the stuff he say,
Speaker 3: you kind of gotta say, I can agree with that.
Speaker 3: I'm not really I don't really like to talking about
Speaker 3: people's kids and all that stuff. But he got he
Speaker 3: got a thing, and he sticked to his thing. And
Speaker 3: the one thing I will say about that dude is
Speaker 3: that he makes itself available.
Speaker 2: He don't do no hiding or know because he knows
Speaker 2: how to, you know, a malipulate the system to where
Speaker 2: he's gonna take it to his advantage. I'm gonna say
Speaker 2: what the fuck I wanted to say, and if you
Speaker 2: got a problem with it, I'm gonna do nothing but
Speaker 2: use the resources around me to get your ass.
Speaker 1: You know.
Speaker 3: Yeah? And you know what, bro? When he was on
Speaker 3: Digital Soapbox, right, I remember we had a conversation with
Speaker 3: him and I told them cats, I said, y'all, trying
Speaker 3: to tell him how to do his shit is not
Speaker 3: gonna work. That dude is gonna be who he is.
Speaker 3: You feel me. Glasses was trying to talk to him,
Speaker 3: but Uncle Hem was trying to talk to him. He
Speaker 3: told both of me, said, I'm gonna do what the
Speaker 3: fuck I want to do, and I'm gonna say what
Speaker 3: the fuck I want to say, and I don't give
Speaker 3: a fuck who don't like it. I said, see, y'all
Speaker 3: told you all, this dude is gonna do what he
Speaker 3: want to do.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's a straightforward nigga for you though you're getting me. Yes,
Speaker 2: you're gonna give a fuck about the consequences. He like, nigga,
Speaker 2: I'm just gonna put it out there. Fuck it.
Speaker 3: Hey, did you ever think, man, when when you were
Speaker 3: doing this shit back in the day, did you ever
Speaker 3: see all this coming? Nah?
Speaker 1: Now with social media and internet and all that shit.
Speaker 3: Hell, when you first saw it coming, did you think
Speaker 3: it was gonna impact music the way it did?
Speaker 1: I didn't know what it was gonna do to music.
Speaker 2: I mean, you know, I was one of those cats
Speaker 2: who came from the era of you know, records and
Speaker 2: tapes and crates and all that shit. So I didn't
Speaker 2: know how the digital wave was gonna be. I'd never
Speaker 2: been a computer savy motherfucker. So you had to be
Speaker 2: one of those people who, you know, really put your
Speaker 2: time and invest it in the Internet.
Speaker 1: I didn't.
Speaker 3: I knew it was gonna be. I started, you know
Speaker 3: what I had. I start. I was at the homie
Speaker 3: Polar Beer. I had a homie that was that has
Speaker 3: been producing on computers man, probably probably since like early
Speaker 3: two thousands, and he was one of the first people
Speaker 3: I ever seen, like just really like I saw pro
Speaker 3: tools one time in a big studio. I didn't really
Speaker 3: know what it was, but I had never seen nobody
Speaker 3: making beats on the computer. You feel, Me was making
Speaker 3: beats on the computer way back then, dog, And I
Speaker 3: was just like always, I didn't never think the hard
Speaker 3: way were grow away, Like I didn't imagine not doing
Speaker 3: beats out of NPC or SB twelve hundred because I
Speaker 3: think that's the era of me and you both come
Speaker 3: from that SB twelve hundred.
Speaker 2: NPC era, you know, and it was what people call
Speaker 2: purity and music, you know, and people had to search
Speaker 2: and dig the sounds and create, you know, not like
Speaker 2: turn to switch on and get on your com and
Speaker 2: hit a button and let shit be created like that, uh,
Speaker 2: you know, and not not not down in anybody who
Speaker 2: came from that era of you know, producing in this
Speaker 2: new era of production, but you know, we just came
Speaker 2: from a different time, you know, taking any sampling, finding records,
Speaker 2: you know, finding sounds.
Speaker 3: I accept some of the shit that going out though,
Speaker 3: and actually it has helped, you know, a lot of
Speaker 3: this stuff. If you a creative dude, a lot of
Speaker 3: stuff can help. Like I look at now, like I'm
Speaker 3: not exactly I'm a dude to pick at the piano.
Speaker 3: I know notes and stuff like that, but I'm not no,
Speaker 3: no dude, I'm not no Scott Storks with it right right.
Speaker 3: The thing now you can line stuff up and it
Speaker 3: just makes it way just easier to do certain things.
Speaker 3: If you know the keys and the notes and stuff
Speaker 3: like that, you can kind of just line that stuff up,
Speaker 3: you know, programming line it up, right. I remember I
Speaker 3: used to be against that stuff, like, no, I want
Speaker 3: to do all my stuff. After while, I started saying, man,
Speaker 3: you but my homeboy Metro from the Chromatics he told me,
Speaker 3: he said, man, you better get on the end and
Speaker 3: fuck all that shit. This shit is making it easier now.
Speaker 3: Your workflow is easier now. Right, Once I start doing
Speaker 3: like that, I said, man, you know what you can
Speaker 3: actually you don't need. What it did was and put
Speaker 3: the session musicians out of business. To whereas you would
Speaker 3: have had to hire a keyboard player back in the
Speaker 3: day bringing guitarists here, you don't need none of them dudes, now,
Speaker 3: got right, as you could just find the sounds and
Speaker 3: just programm it to do what you want to do. Well, yeah,
Speaker 3: you can find with this AI shit is getting scary now, bro,
Speaker 3: it's just getting I always think you're gonna have to
Speaker 3: be creative, though I don't. I don't think it's Wherever
Speaker 3: get away with you just pressing a button and telling
Speaker 3: the computer what you want to do. Because I can
Speaker 3: tell the difference between them tracks and when a nigga
Speaker 3: really doing something.
Speaker 2: Right, you still got your heart and should into the shit.
Speaker 3: Heah, yeah, because I can just hear and I don't
Speaker 3: heard some pretty cool sound of AI stuff, but I
Speaker 3: could say, yeah, I'm like, man, you know what this
Speaker 3: is just missing certain stuff? You feel what I mean, right,
Speaker 3: Like you know how Dre when Drey was really on
Speaker 3: his ship, he might make a beat, but he may
Speaker 3: have one partner song to just come during that one time,
Speaker 3: you know, like a little you feel what I'm saying something,
Speaker 3: just do the thing that might just be there one time.
Speaker 3: He's just really maginative with his shit. Are you listening
Speaker 3: to somebody like Premiere? It has a certain kind of
Speaker 3: just magic to what you feel me exactly, but Pete
Speaker 3: Rock or somebody he just like you know, when you
Speaker 3: listen to something like you know Troy, they reminisced over you.
Speaker 3: You're like, damn that shit as hard as hell, you
Speaker 3: know what I mean?
Speaker 1: Yeah, it was, it was. It was definitely a different
Speaker 1: time from music.
Speaker 2: But like you said, you can't, uh, you can't look
Speaker 2: past what's going on today. You know, it's some good
Speaker 2: music that's coming out today.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, for sure. Like I saw, I forget what
Speaker 3: I saw Mustard on. He was in there with Just Blazes, right,
Speaker 3: and he was showing just Blaze how he produced. You know,
Speaker 3: Mustard don't produce. It ain't no keyboard or nothing that
Speaker 3: he just all on the laptop. It's lying the shit up, programming.
Speaker 3: And you know, Just Blazed didn't sleep on him. I
Speaker 3: can't say what he's doing is wrong. It's just a
Speaker 3: new way of doing shit.
Speaker 2: Now, Bro, Yeah, they have you know shit, that's what
Speaker 2: it is though. It's called advancing, Yeah he is.
Speaker 3: You know, it's the evolution music just on the vall bro.
Speaker 3: Because the thing is, I never thought I'm pretty sure
Speaker 3: niggas that really played the drums looked at us when
Speaker 3: we was beating on a damn box. Talk about, man,
Speaker 3: that's not a real music. Can you ma how crazy
Speaker 3: we looked at them?
Speaker 2: Niggas probably looked at them, but you know, shit, that
Speaker 2: was us creating. We knew what we was hearing in
Speaker 2: our ear.
Speaker 3: Mm hmm yeah. I just think right now, man, we
Speaker 3: in a place right now to where I don't know
Speaker 3: if you're an im mention this movie a couple of times,
Speaker 3: I'm gonna send it to you, Bro. It's a movie
Speaker 3: that was made by Mike Judges, and I think this
Speaker 3: movie might have came out in two thousand win and
Speaker 3: something like that. Give me if I'm wrong. It was
Speaker 3: called Idiocracy, and it was about this dude that like
Speaker 3: got stuck in this time capsule for the government, right,
Speaker 3: and he woke up in like the year two thousand
Speaker 3: and sixty or something like that, right, Him and this
Speaker 3: other girl, she was trying to escape from her pencil.
Speaker 3: She got any thing by accident. Thing closed up. He
Speaker 3: woke up. He was just from a pile of trash.
Speaker 3: Because everybody lived in a pile of trash. They didn't
Speaker 3: use water. They drunk gatorade for water. They was playing
Speaker 3: the crops with gatorade, and everybody was just dumb as
Speaker 3: a motherfucker, right, And the way they looked at TV, Bro,
Speaker 3: I swear the TV looked like it does now. You know,
Speaker 3: everything kind of stacked up on top of each other. Now,
Speaker 3: that's how the TV looked and everything. I said, this
Speaker 3: nigga actually predicted the future, dog, and niggas was winging crocs.
Speaker 3: I said, Man, this nigga just predicted, man, that this
Speaker 3: whole shit was just gonna be fucked up.
Speaker 1: A lot of shit be like that if you pay
Speaker 1: attention to it.
Speaker 3: Though.
Speaker 2: A lot of sheet TV shows from back then predicting
Speaker 2: the future of how what was shit gonna be and
Speaker 2: how shit was gonna turn out. You got a lot
Speaker 2: of those shows.
Speaker 3: Yeah, shit, especially you shit if you remember the motherfucking
Speaker 3: Jackson's them. Motherfucker was facetiming niggas back.
Speaker 1: In the day exactly.
Speaker 3: Now, we really got that little motherfucker phone where you
Speaker 3: could call. My wife could call me and I could
Speaker 3: see what's going on with her. My little nephew, he
Speaker 3: called me all the time, right, and I can see him.
Speaker 3: You feel what I'm saying. My little niece she had
Speaker 3: called me, I could see her on the phone. Right.
Speaker 3: It's just it's just crazy writing now, dog, Now, I
Speaker 3: think I think one of the things I want to do, man,
Speaker 3: I'm real, I always want to do Dog. It's just
Speaker 3: where we keep it, where we just always telling the
Speaker 3: truth about shit, dog and being who held and not
Speaker 3: trying to chase no bullshit.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that keeps the show authentic.
Speaker 3: Yeah, because somebody asked me one day, like, man, why
Speaker 3: don't y'all start doing this and that? And I said, man,
Speaker 3: because I don't want to chase that shit. The moment
Speaker 3: I had to start going out there fucking, that'll probably
Speaker 3: be the day I don't want to do the show
Speaker 3: no more. Right. I just think that'd be the type
Speaker 3: of today where I just say, you know what, man,
Speaker 3: we had us a good run, my nigga, you know
Speaker 3: it's time to let this motherfucker or do something else,
Speaker 3: you know, exactly with the script, because it's just like
Speaker 3: there's plenty of people, man, that I was doing the
Speaker 3: shit without doing a retarded shit. You know what, I
Speaker 3: shouldn't say that, my bad saying that word retarded. I'll
Speaker 3: be forgetting. You'll remember me old, you know, not to
Speaker 3: forget me, you know, but without doing silly shit.
Speaker 1: Got to keep your integrity on shit.
Speaker 3: Man.
Speaker 2: Sometimes, like you said, everything ain't good for certain reasons.
Speaker 2: And that's the code, gotta follow them. Can't be like
Speaker 2: everybody else. Got to be authentic and you gotta be
Speaker 2: you know, just be regular and be yourself, and that's
Speaker 2: what people respect you for.
Speaker 3: And that's the thing, Like you said, be regular. Ain't
Speaker 3: nothing wrong with being a regular nigga, I guess, and
Speaker 3: you know what, in a way, I don't. That's why
Speaker 3: I kind of get these other young niggas a past dog,
Speaker 3: because at the end of the day, it's just a
Speaker 3: plight of being a nigga dog. People trying to survive,
Speaker 3: bro and people trying to survive and advance the best
Speaker 3: way they know how. So I don't have no talent,
Speaker 3: but I do know, you know what, I see this
Speaker 3: what they're doing. So this is what I'm gonna do
Speaker 3: to try to make myself some money. Now, would I
Speaker 3: go that route?
Speaker 2: No?
Speaker 3: Me, and you probably got a lot more character than
Speaker 3: these other cats exactly, probably got a lot of I'm
Speaker 3: not the type. I've never been to type just to
Speaker 3: do anything for money. I've always thought that was a
Speaker 3: real bad trait for people to have, like the way
Speaker 3: you're doing anything for money, because if you do anything
Speaker 3: for money, you fuck around, look up and be sucking
Speaker 3: a dick dog. Yep.
Speaker 2: Like I always say, all money ain't good money. So
Speaker 2: stick to your integrity.
Speaker 3: You got you gotta always stick to your integrity. You
Speaker 3: got some You got a show coming up, don't you.
Speaker 2: I got some ship coming up, and uh in Nate,
Speaker 2: you know, going around getting out there, trying to do
Speaker 2: a little couple of little shows. Getting my feet wet
Speaker 2: for the summer. So you know, Arizona, I'm about to
Speaker 2: be out there and in Saint Louis. You stay going
Speaker 2: to the Midwest for sure. Man, I got a girl
Speaker 2: I've been working with. Man, her name is Sunday. She
Speaker 2: I had her out here, Man, she was just in the.
Speaker 3: Studio with the homie Polly robbing them and pobly robbing
Speaker 3: them is real dope. The catch the deer, the Cathy
Speaker 3: Swag district, you know, to teach me how to duck
Speaker 3: you and all that. She's from Kansas City. Dog. The
Speaker 3: thing about her, Man, she spent like Nicki and them.
Speaker 3: She spent like Raige, Nicki and all them. But she
Speaker 3: got the sex appeal ship locked. I'm trying to see
Speaker 3: what I could do with her, man, And the thing
Speaker 3: is about that I might have to tell her ass
Speaker 3: to slow down a little bit. She might be too lyrical.
Speaker 3: I'm gonna let you hear some of her ship to
Speaker 3: see what you think. She hard though, It's all good.
Speaker 3: She hard though. She was asking me when she came out.
Speaker 3: She was like, Michael, get the chance to do with
Speaker 3: something with eight. I said no, not now, I said
Speaker 3: not ship. I said, we gotta, we gotta up your status.
Speaker 3: People just think they can jump to the m C
Speaker 3: eight's and all them all the right off the rip.
Speaker 1: Ambitious.
Speaker 3: Yeah, she hard though, dog she man. But sure, that's
Speaker 3: it right there, Bro. I want to start doing this
Speaker 3: before we go and tell you I want to start
Speaker 3: doing this some this Gangster Rap Live, this Gangster Rap
Speaker 3: Chronicles live thing. You know, I've been talking about you
Speaker 3: with the Live. I've been talking this ship, about this
Speaker 3: ship for a couple of years now. I think it's
Speaker 3: time we set that off, bro. For sure, Let's get
Speaker 3: it cracking, all right, for sure? On that note, we
Speaker 3: out here. Yeah ah