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Speaker 1: Hello, and welcome to the Bloomberg Business of Sports Podcast.

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Speaker 1: We're here every Monday, Wednesday and Thursday for you talking

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Speaker 1: about some of the biggest sports stories. I'm Michael Barr,

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Speaker 1: I'm Scarlett and I and we've got a lot to

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Speaker 1: talk about today. The first story though the way, yes,

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Speaker 1: forgive my manners. Happy New Year to you, Scarlett, to you,

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Speaker 1: lynch E, to you, Sarah who's behind the glass, and

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Speaker 1: to everybody out there, Happy New Year. I hope it

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Speaker 1: was here big. So far, so good, so far. Knock

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Speaker 1: on wood, everyone knocks on their head. Uh. First story, Uh,

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Speaker 1: this one. I I just I'm really torn about Antonio Brown.

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Speaker 1: Now let me start. Uh Tampa Bay beat the Jets

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Speaker 1: and to come back from behind, winn I believe. Uh.

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Speaker 1: Tom Brady of course always comes through Old number twelve

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Speaker 1: just you know kick. But for the Tampa Bay Buccaneers

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Speaker 1: all this time, you know old number twelve coming in.

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Speaker 1: But the story that everybody's talking about in this game

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Speaker 1: is Antonio Brown, who was a white out for the Buccaneers.

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Speaker 1: I'm watching this game and on television, and I thought,

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Speaker 1: as I'm watching it, they're showing warm ups with Antonio

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Speaker 1: Brown in the end zone until I realized, wait a minute,

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Speaker 1: this is the game. What what the sam hill was

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Speaker 1: going on? And for people who don't know, apparently Brown

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Speaker 1: and head coach Bruce Arians had a beef and then

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Speaker 1: all of a sudden, Brown throws off his jersey, throws

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Speaker 1: and he's walking along the sidelines. He goes into the

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Speaker 1: end zone, does little dance, holds up the peace sign,

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Speaker 1: and then goes into the locker room. And right after that,

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Speaker 1: Scarlet after the game asked when Arians said that Brown

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Speaker 1: is no longer a buck. I'm totally confused by this.

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Speaker 1: I don't know what the sequence of events is here. Um,

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Speaker 1: whether I mean, obviously they had some kind of disagreement,

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Speaker 1: but whether he was removed from the team first and

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Speaker 1: he was removed from the team. It's it's puzzling. Well,

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Speaker 1: apparently from what was said, uh, Arians said twice, come

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Speaker 1: you're out of here. Yeah, He's a very complex figure.

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Speaker 1: There's people are trying to figure out the motive behind here.

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Speaker 1: There there were three incentive clauses in his contract. Uh,

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Speaker 1: he can make an extra million dollars with eight more

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Speaker 1: catches that would be three thousand more total yards is

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Speaker 1: three thirty three thousand, which adds up he gets all

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Speaker 1: three of them, that's an extra million dollars. People are

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Speaker 1: trying to get inside his head. Was that the reason

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Speaker 1: because he flipped out that he wasn't gonna be playing

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Speaker 1: and he would not reach that those those three incentives. Uh,

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Speaker 1: nobody can figure the guy out. Now this he's a

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Speaker 1: very polarizing figure. Some people are saying that good riddance,

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Speaker 1: get out of here when I never want to see

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Speaker 1: you again, and a lot of people saying, this guy

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Speaker 1: really needs some help before he does some harm to

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Speaker 1: himself or to others. So it's there's two sides of

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Speaker 1: the fences here, and people are very confused which side

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Speaker 1: recalcitrant figure. He's uh has been is the National Football League?

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Speaker 1: Have they been enablers to this guy. Has Tom Brady

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Speaker 1: been an enabling Brady actually had him living in his home. Um.

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Speaker 1: But because Brady thought that he was the type of

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Speaker 1: player that needed structure in his life, you know, someplace

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Speaker 1: to go every single day to be accountable beyond a team,

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Speaker 1: he has a history of um, some off the field issues, right,

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Speaker 1: I mean he was recently suspended for three games for

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Speaker 1: this was a one year contract that he had with

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Speaker 1: the Bucks, right, it was um, you know, three point

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Speaker 1: one million dollars, right, So what happens in terms of

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Speaker 1: NFL game he ever plays? Was that a factor in

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Speaker 1: see there was there's so many things here involved, like

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Speaker 1: the wood. Uh, let's shift to something. Well, I guess

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Speaker 1: this was supposed to be happier. But the title game

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Speaker 1: next week for college footballs National Championship will be Georgia

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Speaker 1: versus Alabama. That's because Alabama old over Cincinnati, and that's

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Speaker 1: because Georgia rolled over Michigan, Michigan, Michigan. That was yes,

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Speaker 1: I'm sorry my nostril flaring here. Listen. I you know

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Speaker 1: I I love the anything that comes out of the midden,

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Speaker 1: that's I love it. But boy, I was so disappointed

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Speaker 1: Scarlett when when that game ended. Have you recovered? I am?

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Speaker 1: to calm down. App Are you gonna watch the championship game?

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Speaker 1: Then yes, I gotta watch the championship game. It's part

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Speaker 1: of The'll be watching it. Basically, You're right, I'll be

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Speaker 1: I'll be a hater. Haters gonna hate, and I'm gonna

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Speaker 1: watch the game because I have to. But now, in

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Speaker 1: all seriousness, Alabama and Georgia, uh, they played well, And Lynchy,

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Speaker 1: It's gonna be a good game. I like Alabama in

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Speaker 1: was trying to figure out, Okay, what's the payout in

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Speaker 1: this game? Is there a financial incentive? No extra money

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Speaker 1: for the for the champion, and no extra money from

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Speaker 1: making it to the championship game. But the four teams

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Speaker 1: that were in Cincinnati, Michigan, Georgia, Alabama. Each conference gets

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Speaker 1: all money aside, it's gonna be it's gonna be a

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Speaker 1: good game. I think Alabama wins, and uh, this is

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Speaker 1: like to see it expanded to eight teams. Scarlett, I

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Speaker 1: need some vetting tips, are you looking at? I mean,

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Speaker 1: I don't know how to how to advise you. Michael Barr.

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Speaker 1: I was just thinking as as Lynch was summing everything up.

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Speaker 1: Bar loses, SEC wins. I'm sorry it's cruel. Well, first

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Speaker 1: story all day yet. But uh, but that's gonna be

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Speaker 1: a great game, folks, I would like to sit down

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Speaker 1: and watch that. Uh. Let's talk about the Saudis on

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Speaker 1: I mean, it's like, you know this, this can happen.

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Speaker 1: Milan Um also didn't have enough capital on hand a

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Speaker 1: this is something that Milan does not want to happen.

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Speaker 1: One thing we got to talk about is the Winter Classic.

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Speaker 1: It was a success, but it was five below zero.

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Speaker 1: That's windbreaker weather back in Michigan. Windbreaker. This Winter Classic.

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Speaker 1: It's you know, you're a big hockey fans, Scarlett. I

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Speaker 1: Winter Classic. That's different to its name. Yeah, I mean

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Speaker 1: a different level. But I mean doctor Chivago stuff, Yeah yeah.

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