1 00:00:00,240 --> 00:00:02,960 Speaker 1: We talk about the media side, and we, like I said, 2 00:00:02,960 --> 00:00:05,240 Speaker 1: we appreciate that was awesome, But talk about some of 3 00:00:05,280 --> 00:00:08,239 Speaker 1: the stuff growing up for you, because you were a 4 00:00:08,240 --> 00:00:09,640 Speaker 1: Hooper too and you grew. 5 00:00:09,560 --> 00:00:10,080 Speaker 2: Up in the Bay. 6 00:00:10,160 --> 00:00:13,040 Speaker 1: Talk about growing up how basketball changed that or how 7 00:00:13,119 --> 00:00:15,360 Speaker 1: basketball took you and directed you. And then you know 8 00:00:15,360 --> 00:00:16,360 Speaker 1: obviously where were right now. 9 00:00:16,440 --> 00:00:21,560 Speaker 3: Yeah, So I grew up in Santes, California, where all 10 00:00:21,600 --> 00:00:25,320 Speaker 3: sports were like big, right, Like my first my mom 11 00:00:25,400 --> 00:00:28,200 Speaker 3: put me in. My first sport was soccer when I 12 00:00:28,240 --> 00:00:32,280 Speaker 3: was in the first grade. And I actually loved baseball first, 13 00:00:33,240 --> 00:00:37,120 Speaker 3: Like baseball was my first love. Just getting there in 14 00:00:37,120 --> 00:00:42,120 Speaker 3: that little league Saturday morning. I love it to get 15 00:00:42,159 --> 00:00:45,160 Speaker 3: the big league shooes flower seeds. You play your game, 16 00:00:45,200 --> 00:00:46,440 Speaker 3: you still sit there all day. 17 00:00:47,000 --> 00:00:48,600 Speaker 2: That was like so much fun to me. 18 00:00:50,080 --> 00:00:54,680 Speaker 3: But around fifth grade, like I started getting into basketball 19 00:00:54,720 --> 00:00:58,720 Speaker 3: at like my elementary school. Like I wasn't no big 20 00:00:58,760 --> 00:01:01,200 Speaker 3: basketball guy, but like these dudes convinced me to play 21 00:01:01,240 --> 00:01:05,319 Speaker 3: because I was tall, and I was like, yo, this 22 00:01:05,440 --> 00:01:08,160 Speaker 3: is the first sport where I kind of felt like 23 00:01:08,240 --> 00:01:11,720 Speaker 3: my height was at an advantage and I made an 24 00:01:11,760 --> 00:01:13,920 Speaker 3: impact in the game. Well, I don't even really knowing 25 00:01:13,920 --> 00:01:16,800 Speaker 3: how to play the game, and I don't know why, 26 00:01:16,840 --> 00:01:20,360 Speaker 3: but I just like fell in love with basketball, and 27 00:01:22,160 --> 00:01:24,400 Speaker 3: eventually I moved out to got rid of football a 28 00:01:24,400 --> 00:01:28,240 Speaker 3: couple of years later in baseball soccer, like I pushed 29 00:01:28,240 --> 00:01:33,640 Speaker 3: all these eventually to the side. But like I loved basketball, 30 00:01:33,840 --> 00:01:39,080 Speaker 3: fill in love basketball hard, like really quick, and so 31 00:01:39,240 --> 00:01:41,720 Speaker 3: like my first thing was I convinced my parents to 32 00:01:41,800 --> 00:01:42,560 Speaker 3: let me go to Sounds. 33 00:01:42,560 --> 00:01:44,840 Speaker 2: They stayed basketball camp when. 34 00:01:44,640 --> 00:01:46,000 Speaker 3: I was in the sixth grade, and it was a 35 00:01:46,000 --> 00:01:49,120 Speaker 3: summer camp and it was amazing, and they had a 36 00:01:49,160 --> 00:01:53,160 Speaker 3: player on their team that was a panem All American 37 00:01:53,320 --> 00:01:56,040 Speaker 3: and was on an All American Playboy team. Like I 38 00:01:56,040 --> 00:01:59,720 Speaker 3: didn't get to see that Playboy unless one of my 39 00:02:00,160 --> 00:02:00,480 Speaker 3: you know. 40 00:02:00,440 --> 00:02:00,600 Speaker 1: My. 41 00:02:02,080 --> 00:02:02,680 Speaker 2: Record Playboy. 42 00:02:02,760 --> 00:02:05,920 Speaker 3: Oh, but I wish I would have been remember that man, 43 00:02:06,600 --> 00:02:08,600 Speaker 3: Now you can put my dad out there. Somebody had. 44 00:02:10,160 --> 00:02:13,280 Speaker 2: Uh mag and maybe I would have saw it. 45 00:02:13,320 --> 00:02:16,840 Speaker 3: But his name was Ricky Berry. Kenny Smith played with 46 00:02:16,919 --> 00:02:18,960 Speaker 3: him with the Sacramento Kings, and I don't know if 47 00:02:18,960 --> 00:02:22,120 Speaker 3: guys are familiar with his name. Wasn't Rick Berry, It's 48 00:02:22,240 --> 00:02:24,880 Speaker 3: Ricky Barry. He was a ball boy from Magic Johnson 49 00:02:25,480 --> 00:02:27,840 Speaker 3: at Michigan State. His dad, Bill Barry, had coach there. 50 00:02:27,880 --> 00:02:31,359 Speaker 3: But then he went to Sanesy State six eight two. 51 00:02:32,800 --> 00:02:36,000 Speaker 2: Ken shooting shooting. 52 00:02:36,120 --> 00:02:38,760 Speaker 3: Yeah yeah and no yeah, and he shot like you 53 00:02:39,240 --> 00:02:42,640 Speaker 3: and Kenny Smith called him Reggie Miller with a handled damn. 54 00:02:43,280 --> 00:02:45,360 Speaker 3: So he was cold and he was in college at 55 00:02:45,360 --> 00:02:49,880 Speaker 3: the time. So I was like idolized him because I 56 00:02:49,880 --> 00:02:51,600 Speaker 3: could touch him and this this is when you're at 57 00:02:51,680 --> 00:02:52,240 Speaker 3: summer camp. 58 00:02:52,280 --> 00:02:55,000 Speaker 2: In the summer camp, like, I was like, oh, this 59 00:02:55,080 --> 00:02:57,720 Speaker 2: dude is that guy? You know? So I like fell 60 00:02:57,720 --> 00:02:58,480 Speaker 2: in love with him. 61 00:02:58,639 --> 00:03:01,840 Speaker 3: And he he had this thing though, where he said 62 00:03:01,840 --> 00:03:04,080 Speaker 3: that camp ain't nobody could steal the ball from me. 63 00:03:04,600 --> 00:03:06,280 Speaker 3: So I didn't care what I did the rest of 64 00:03:06,280 --> 00:03:08,560 Speaker 3: that camp. I was gonna steal the ball. That's my 65 00:03:08,680 --> 00:03:13,400 Speaker 3: whole of that whole week. And one day he was 66 00:03:13,400 --> 00:03:15,560 Speaker 3: just standing there with the ball and I ran by 67 00:03:15,680 --> 00:03:17,400 Speaker 3: and I just took it and I couldn't dribble it. 68 00:03:17,600 --> 00:03:21,360 Speaker 2: I just took off, running into all the campers. Yeah. 69 00:03:21,440 --> 00:03:24,400 Speaker 3: And then after that he like liked me and respected 70 00:03:24,440 --> 00:03:27,000 Speaker 3: me and came to my dorm room at night and 71 00:03:27,040 --> 00:03:30,720 Speaker 3: like Ricky Berry like walked on walk on water to me. 72 00:03:31,040 --> 00:03:31,359 Speaker 2: Wow. 73 00:03:31,600 --> 00:03:34,280 Speaker 3: And so I ended up wearing thirty four because of 74 00:03:34,360 --> 00:03:37,080 Speaker 3: him and people thought I wore because of Barky. Know 75 00:03:37,120 --> 00:03:40,880 Speaker 3: I wore because of Ricky Berry. But he made the 76 00:03:40,920 --> 00:03:43,720 Speaker 3: All Rookie team when I was in high school and 77 00:03:44,440 --> 00:03:47,600 Speaker 3: eighty eighty nine season he made the All Rookie team. 78 00:03:47,640 --> 00:03:50,400 Speaker 3: He ate eight threes in the game during that Like, 79 00:03:50,440 --> 00:03:52,000 Speaker 3: think about that eighty eight eighty nine. 80 00:03:51,840 --> 00:03:54,440 Speaker 2: You hitting the threes in the game, making sixteen right now? 81 00:03:54,520 --> 00:03:58,720 Speaker 3: Yeah, And I think he was like basically going to 82 00:03:58,760 --> 00:04:02,920 Speaker 3: be the face of the franchise, future superstar. What is 83 00:04:02,960 --> 00:04:07,560 Speaker 3: this Sacramento Kings and played with Kenny Smith. And then 84 00:04:08,720 --> 00:04:11,120 Speaker 3: you know, I was at I'm fast forwarding because I 85 00:04:11,160 --> 00:04:13,520 Speaker 3: wanted I went to the Plump camp when I. 86 00:04:18,040 --> 00:04:19,400 Speaker 2: Was one of the first Pump camps. 87 00:04:19,400 --> 00:04:23,240 Speaker 3: We were outside and then me and Monty Buckley. Do 88 00:04:23,240 --> 00:04:27,480 Speaker 3: you remember Monty Buckley? He played a cow. They brought 89 00:04:27,560 --> 00:04:30,599 Speaker 3: us because he was from Sacramento. They brought us into 90 00:04:30,640 --> 00:04:33,360 Speaker 3: a room just out of nowhere, and me and Money like, 91 00:04:33,400 --> 00:04:35,880 Speaker 3: what did we do? Did we get in trouble? And 92 00:04:35,880 --> 00:04:37,960 Speaker 3: they're like, no, we just wanted to tell you something 93 00:04:37,960 --> 00:04:39,200 Speaker 3: because we know he's a friend of yours. 94 00:04:39,240 --> 00:04:43,120 Speaker 2: But Ricky Berry committed suicide. Oh man, I don't know 95 00:04:43,160 --> 00:04:46,080 Speaker 2: if you guys know this story. No, no, please, we 96 00:04:46,120 --> 00:04:47,240 Speaker 2: didn't know this story. Yeah. 97 00:04:47,600 --> 00:04:51,359 Speaker 3: So he only played one season in the NBA, like, 98 00:04:52,160 --> 00:04:56,360 Speaker 3: and he committed suicide like this, This is probably worthy 99 00:04:56,400 --> 00:04:58,840 Speaker 3: of a documentary. 100 00:04:59,520 --> 00:05:03,279 Speaker 2: Expect this already like that. Wow. 101 00:05:03,400 --> 00:05:06,920 Speaker 3: So I'm like going into my like senior year of 102 00:05:06,960 --> 00:05:09,160 Speaker 3: high school. This is my guy, this is my idol 103 00:05:09,600 --> 00:05:12,560 Speaker 3: from sixth grade. My mom wanted me to change my 104 00:05:12,640 --> 00:05:15,560 Speaker 3: number and I'm like, nah, I'm a rock with him. Yeah, 105 00:05:15,680 --> 00:05:18,680 Speaker 3: I'm a rock with him. You know, I got kind 106 00:05:18,720 --> 00:05:20,640 Speaker 3: of privy a lot of information later. 107 00:05:20,760 --> 00:05:23,080 Speaker 2: What was the story behind it? I know? 108 00:05:23,160 --> 00:05:26,920 Speaker 3: You know, I know I read when I asked read 109 00:05:26,960 --> 00:05:30,240 Speaker 3: about it. Yeah, it was so he. 110 00:05:30,240 --> 00:05:30,720 Speaker 2: Wrote about it. 111 00:05:31,600 --> 00:05:33,000 Speaker 1: What platform was you read about? 112 00:05:35,680 --> 00:05:35,720 Speaker 2: No? 113 00:05:36,000 --> 00:05:42,440 Speaker 3: He I was privy to a letter and he was 114 00:05:42,640 --> 00:05:45,920 Speaker 3: strange with his wife in the pressure of his marriage 115 00:05:46,040 --> 00:05:51,240 Speaker 3: so young, I think got to be too heavy for him. 116 00:05:52,520 --> 00:05:57,000 Speaker 2: But he was like the first he was. He still has. 117 00:05:57,080 --> 00:05:59,000 Speaker 2: I'm like, I'm still talking about him now. This happened 118 00:05:59,040 --> 00:06:02,839 Speaker 2: in eighty nine in his Flowers Today. Yeah Berry Man 119 00:06:02,920 --> 00:06:04,520 Speaker 2: and his dadal Berry. 120 00:06:05,440 --> 00:06:09,640 Speaker 3: Like, if he hadn't gotten fired from Santisey State the 121 00:06:09,680 --> 00:06:12,160 Speaker 3: next year, I probably would have went out of high 122 00:06:12,160 --> 00:06:14,840 Speaker 3: school and played for him, but no going back. I 123 00:06:14,839 --> 00:06:18,599 Speaker 3: loved the game of basketball and we didn't have a hoop. 124 00:06:19,120 --> 00:06:21,440 Speaker 3: San Jose wasn't really like a basketball city, So I 125 00:06:21,440 --> 00:06:23,039 Speaker 3: don't know where it was where you guys were like 126 00:06:23,080 --> 00:06:26,400 Speaker 3: where every mile there was a basketball court. It wasn't 127 00:06:26,440 --> 00:06:28,120 Speaker 3: like that you can find a football field. 128 00:06:28,279 --> 00:06:32,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, everywhere football wasn't basketball. 129 00:06:32,560 --> 00:06:34,480 Speaker 3: So there was this lady around the corner who had 130 00:06:34,480 --> 00:06:37,279 Speaker 3: a hoop on the front of her house, and I 131 00:06:37,360 --> 00:06:40,720 Speaker 3: basically knew her kids and asked her if I could 132 00:06:40,760 --> 00:06:44,720 Speaker 3: shoot at her house. And so I would go out 133 00:06:44,720 --> 00:06:47,080 Speaker 3: there with my ball and shoot and be there for hours. 134 00:06:47,120 --> 00:06:48,960 Speaker 3: And she was nice enough to not leave her Carna 135 00:06:49,080 --> 00:06:52,560 Speaker 3: driveway one day she was going and I was awful shooting. 136 00:06:53,080 --> 00:06:55,240 Speaker 2: Never was a great shooting dog. I ain't gonna lie. 137 00:06:55,640 --> 00:06:57,800 Speaker 3: I shot sixty five percent my last year for a 138 00:06:57,800 --> 00:07:08,039 Speaker 3: reason because, yeah, self awareness, but I am the ball 139 00:07:08,120 --> 00:07:10,400 Speaker 3: kept bouncing into the nexcellent neighbor's garden. 140 00:07:11,000 --> 00:07:14,920 Speaker 2: Lady called the police on me in the sixth grade. 141 00:07:14,960 --> 00:07:17,760 Speaker 3: Bro, I'm just falling in love with the game, and 142 00:07:18,200 --> 00:07:20,240 Speaker 3: the police came and they're like. 143 00:07:20,280 --> 00:07:20,880 Speaker 2: Why are you here? 144 00:07:20,920 --> 00:07:23,240 Speaker 3: And I'm like, I'm playing. And my dad taught me 145 00:07:23,240 --> 00:07:25,600 Speaker 3: how to be respectful. I'm like, I got permission to 146 00:07:25,600 --> 00:07:28,240 Speaker 3: play here. Where's the lady at? She's not here right now? 147 00:07:28,680 --> 00:07:31,320 Speaker 3: Well you have to leave. I'm like, but why I 148 00:07:31,360 --> 00:07:35,320 Speaker 3: have permission to play here, sir? And if you don't leave, 149 00:07:35,320 --> 00:07:36,240 Speaker 3: we're gonna wrest your. 150 00:07:38,400 --> 00:07:39,720 Speaker 2: Sixth grader shooting basketball. 151 00:07:39,800 --> 00:07:41,440 Speaker 4: So this is this Let me just ask this was 152 00:07:41,480 --> 00:07:45,320 Speaker 4: this is racism things because I'm just saying. 153 00:07:45,560 --> 00:07:48,360 Speaker 2: I ain't never been. You're going to arrest six years 154 00:07:48,400 --> 00:07:52,040 Speaker 2: sixth grader? Yeah? Basketball? Just shoot there? 155 00:07:52,040 --> 00:07:56,040 Speaker 3: You call the police bringing me like, yeah, this's gotta 156 00:07:56,080 --> 00:07:57,720 Speaker 3: be What do you do? 157 00:07:58,080 --> 00:07:59,760 Speaker 2: Yeah? This got a basketball? 158 00:08:01,600 --> 00:08:05,120 Speaker 3: So I like literally like took my ball and went home, right, 159 00:08:05,280 --> 00:08:10,360 Speaker 3: And so I'm at home. My pops came in and 160 00:08:10,400 --> 00:08:13,320 Speaker 3: he saw me and he like, why is your lip 161 00:08:13,360 --> 00:08:13,880 Speaker 3: poked out? 162 00:08:13,920 --> 00:08:16,080 Speaker 2: Boy? I don't know if y'all say that to your kids. 163 00:08:16,760 --> 00:08:18,560 Speaker 2: Why is your lip poked out? Boy? And I told 164 00:08:18,600 --> 00:08:20,960 Speaker 2: him and. 165 00:08:20,960 --> 00:08:23,520 Speaker 3: The look like he had is like my look, now, 166 00:08:24,640 --> 00:08:28,560 Speaker 3: I think he envisioned me being in a police station 167 00:08:28,640 --> 00:08:33,040 Speaker 3: over this black father really like tough man, strong man. 168 00:08:33,720 --> 00:08:35,520 Speaker 3: He didn't say anything. He got in his car and. 169 00:08:35,559 --> 00:08:38,480 Speaker 2: He left like okay. 170 00:08:39,040 --> 00:08:41,760 Speaker 3: About forty five minutes later and he was a great handyman. 171 00:08:42,320 --> 00:08:44,520 Speaker 2: He came back with a backboard and. 172 00:08:47,679 --> 00:08:50,439 Speaker 3: I'm always getting choked up thinking about it, man, and 173 00:08:50,480 --> 00:08:54,480 Speaker 3: he put it on the in my garage and he's like. 174 00:08:54,720 --> 00:08:56,960 Speaker 2: You got a place to play now, son? How great 175 00:08:57,000 --> 00:09:00,720 Speaker 2: is that? After that, like, basketball just GoF on me. 176 00:09:01,320 --> 00:09:03,480 Speaker 3: Because I wasn't no kid who always had to be 177 00:09:03,520 --> 00:09:05,360 Speaker 3: around people or I was a faller. 178 00:09:06,000 --> 00:09:06,520 Speaker 2: I had the. 179 00:09:06,440 --> 00:09:10,200 Speaker 3: Basketball, I had the rim, I was at home. 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