WEBVTT - Talkin' Cowboys: Problem Spots?

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<v Speaker 1>The following is a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com

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<v Speaker 1>and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club Cowboys. This He's Talking

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<v Speaker 1>Cowboys screening live from the Dallas Cowboys World headquarters at

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<v Speaker 1>the Star in Frisco. Flowing to the goal line, Scot

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<v Speaker 1>and now your hosts Isaiah stand Back, heck My Harrison,

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<v Speaker 1>Rob Phillips and Kyle Yeoman's. It is a Talking Cowboys

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<v Speaker 1>Tuesday here from the Star in Frisco. Welcome in everybody.

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<v Speaker 1>It's another OP season edition. As it is May twenty fourth,

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<v Speaker 1>twenty twenty two. Ot a's are officially underway, and we

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<v Speaker 1>will break it down for you. We haven't gotten to

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<v Speaker 1>see a whole lot what we have heard some things,

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<v Speaker 1>and we of course have news and notes. We're gonna

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<v Speaker 1>talk about some OTA stuff. We're gonna take your questions

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<v Speaker 1>from Twitter. By the way, you can go tweet at

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<v Speaker 1>me at Kyle Underscore Yeoman's. Get your questions out there.

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<v Speaker 1>We'll answer those coming up in the second segment. As always,

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<v Speaker 1>Chris being running the show in the back, heck My Harrison,

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<v Speaker 1>Isaiah stand back, Rob Phillips, I'm Kyle Yeoman's. Gentlemen, how

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<v Speaker 1>are we doing good goods? Swell. Feel a little bit

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<v Speaker 1>better now that football is kind of back in the

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<v Speaker 1>air here. Oh heck, yeah, a little bit. Can't wait

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<v Speaker 1>to hear some pads, you know here in a little while,

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<v Speaker 1>Pad's clicking, clicks popping. Almost there. When is Pad's get on?

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<v Speaker 1>When do they get on? Oh? A few days into camp,

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<v Speaker 1>real training camp. Yeah, so not just yet, but not

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<v Speaker 1>just got a little bit away, not too far away?

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<v Speaker 1>Under seven weeks? Is it really? Actually? I think it's

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<v Speaker 1>six weeks from today. Yeah, crazy's training. We're gonna blink,

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<v Speaker 1>man they leave. Is I think it's six weeks from today?

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<v Speaker 1>I may be wrong. Let me let me double chatty

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<v Speaker 1>in my hate it was like two and a half

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<v Speaker 1>months away. No, yeah, no, it's not that far away.

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<v Speaker 1>I got June. You checked your inbox yet, because it's

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<v Speaker 1>probably got a couple of emails about training camp dates.

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<v Speaker 1>It has this. Yeah, I remember, I'm just a country guy.

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<v Speaker 1>You know. I'm saying it's just as important to you.

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<v Speaker 1>Said they divided the room, right, you know what I'm saying? Hey, good,

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<v Speaker 1>we were Hey, we were all in practice. We were

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<v Speaker 1>we were we were all in rookie unity camp. We

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<v Speaker 1>all enjoyed rookie man camp. I definitely was walking back

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<v Speaker 1>to Robbiella. Wherever rob go, I'm going in your pocket.

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<v Speaker 1>Who got drafted here? Who played here? And who's just

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<v Speaker 1>a you know, just a guy. You know what I'm saying. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't buy that. I don't buy. So that's my role.

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<v Speaker 1>That's what I do. I connect myself. I carry something, microphone, cam,

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<v Speaker 1>y'all need me to carry. So absolutely, I'm on my

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<v Speaker 1>way consolutely. Can I puts? I mean, that's what you

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<v Speaker 1>gotta do. What you gotta do. Ye gotta do what

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<v Speaker 1>you gotta do unless your I say it. Nah, they

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<v Speaker 1>don't know me around here, me for condentials every corner

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<v Speaker 1>I go. We did the math back here, it's nine

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<v Speaker 1>weeks and three days. Hey from now? Yes, and happens

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<v Speaker 1>as well. It was almost That's when I start counting

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<v Speaker 1>how many weekends I have left at home? Thanks Chris,

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<v Speaker 1>Now I know, wow, nine weekends left. I don't know

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<v Speaker 1>where I got that number. There's anxiety that I didn't need,

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<v Speaker 1>did you just I'm thinking like vacation. Yeah, as I

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<v Speaker 1>was saying in my head, I'm like two and a

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<v Speaker 1>half months, Coles is six weeks. I'm like I don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know where I got that number. Means that

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<v Speaker 1>means this show starting to wind down a little bit here, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>means we got like four shows left and then it's one, two, three,

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<v Speaker 1>camcoun pretty much you're taking us to Cancoon yaalk going

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<v Speaker 1>to rob pee Island. Let's do that. Yeah, Chris, you

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<v Speaker 1>come to all right? Sound making a five man triple

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<v Speaker 1>charge to the car. Let's go, all right, Rob? What's

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<v Speaker 1>been going on? News and notes around Cowboys Nation this

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<v Speaker 1>past week? Didn't have you last week? Glad you're back,

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<v Speaker 1>and anything specific going on OTA is getting underway. We

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<v Speaker 1>just we just mentioned that. So no pads, but finally

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<v Speaker 1>some some eleven on eleven we'll get to see over

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<v Speaker 1>the next few weeks. And I think they're only having

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<v Speaker 1>eight of these instead of nine. I think Mike McCarthy

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<v Speaker 1>prefers to after Memorial Day week and just have two

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<v Speaker 1>that week, then three and then Mini Camp and then

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<v Speaker 1>it's time to break break camp get ready for Oxen Art.

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<v Speaker 1>So we'll see a little bit of a continuation what

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<v Speaker 1>we saw on rookie Camp. We'll see how the rookies

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<v Speaker 1>adjust to the veterans, and it'll be nice to see

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<v Speaker 1>Dak Prescott, I assume doing all the things Like last

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<v Speaker 1>year he was anytime there was a pass rush, they

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<v Speaker 1>had him in bubble wrap, so coming off the injury.

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<v Speaker 1>So it's interesting how like as we dive into this,

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<v Speaker 1>it's it's shifted a little bit. Like last year was

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<v Speaker 1>this blank slate for the defense. We had no idea

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<v Speaker 1>really what to expect with dan Quinn coming in. Now

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<v Speaker 1>we have a picture of it and it's it's flipped

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<v Speaker 1>like offensively, there's a lot for them to kind of

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<v Speaker 1>figure out and change the dynamics around Dak Prescott this year.

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<v Speaker 1>So that's something to watch for as we get going here.

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<v Speaker 1>It's kind of been those dynamics that have been shifting

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<v Speaker 1>through the draft process, through the guys that they brought

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<v Speaker 1>in this offseason, and I'm sure there's gonna be plenty

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<v Speaker 1>of eyes on guys like Dante Fowler, Junior James Washington

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<v Speaker 1>because of really the lack of additions from a free

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<v Speaker 1>agent standpoint, there's a lot of pressure on those guys

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<v Speaker 1>to come in and perform. But heckma, when you're looking

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<v Speaker 1>at the specifics of OTAs, you're not going to get

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<v Speaker 1>to see a ton of these these guys really at

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<v Speaker 1>their full potential. But who do you expect to kind

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<v Speaker 1>of fill that role early and maybe shine at the

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<v Speaker 1>early parts of these practices. Well, I think all the

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<v Speaker 1>veterans should shine because they've been here, they know the routine.

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<v Speaker 1>For the rookies, they're going to be like a fish

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<v Speaker 1>out of water just trying to figure out the pace

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<v Speaker 1>of the NFL. So when you mentioned the name like

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<v Speaker 1>Dante Fowler, these are guys that you know coming into camp,

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<v Speaker 1>are coming into this season that you know these were

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<v Speaker 1>not the moves obviously that you were expecting. The front

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<v Speaker 1>office is not going to make any hasty decisions. So

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<v Speaker 1>I think for the veterans that are on this on

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<v Speaker 1>this roster, uh, seeing the guys like Dante Fowler, seeing

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<v Speaker 1>Malie Hooker in his second season with the Dallas Cowboys

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<v Speaker 1>and in this defense, what he's going to be able

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<v Speaker 1>to do, just getting acclimated to this defense, so to speak.

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<v Speaker 1>So you know, there's so many there's so many guys

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<v Speaker 1>on this roster after this offseason that have to answer

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<v Speaker 1>some big time questions as far as their productivity, and

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<v Speaker 1>those are the I mean, camp isn't going to answer that.

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<v Speaker 1>Only real game is going to answer some of these

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<v Speaker 1>questions that we have about this team. Yeah, I don't

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<v Speaker 1>know if there's gonna be like big shining anybody any

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<v Speaker 1>shining moments, um and OTAs, but one shining. I don't

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<v Speaker 1>know how this God, I'm starting to turn into me?

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<v Speaker 1>How you see that? Right there? Forever all Uh? I

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<v Speaker 1>was like, damn it, no, not too Isaiah, please, Oh no,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know about shining moments, but I do. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>looking forward to seeing if Dak and James Washington can

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<v Speaker 1>get some chemistry. I think that's gonna be a very

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<v Speaker 1>imported an element and gord into this season, that those

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<v Speaker 1>guys get in sync early and then and then that

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<v Speaker 1>can carry on and well into camp and obviously transition

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<v Speaker 1>to the season. But I think that's going to be

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<v Speaker 1>a very He's going to be a key ingredient to

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<v Speaker 1>this office's ability to move the ball this year. So

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<v Speaker 1>I'm looking forward to seeing Dak healthy early and then

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<v Speaker 1>him working with James Washington, him adapting to this particular

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<v Speaker 1>offense and his finding his role. Yeah, because you lose

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<v Speaker 1>Cedric Wilson in that wide receiver room, and that's kind

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<v Speaker 1>of the guy you want. James Washington to become special

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<v Speaker 1>team's impact. You want him to be that fourth receiver,

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<v Speaker 1>maybe even better than that, and kind of be that

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<v Speaker 1>reliable target from a receiving standpoint. That's on the same

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<v Speaker 1>page as Dak Prescott. If you go on Dallas Cowboys

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<v Speaker 1>dot Com. Over the last couple of weeks, Rob, Nick

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<v Speaker 1>Dave have all been putting together this this problem Spots series.

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<v Speaker 1>It's actually really cool. You go in and it has

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<v Speaker 1>specific spots that going into the offseason were quote unquote

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<v Speaker 1>problem spots and what they've done to either fill that

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<v Speaker 1>or what they expect to do in order to fill

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<v Speaker 1>that when the season comes around. I want to kind

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<v Speaker 1>of talk about a couple of those problems spots and Rob,

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<v Speaker 1>I'll let you start, since you were part of that series,

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<v Speaker 1>which one do you feel like was the biggest problem

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<v Speaker 1>spot and what have the Cowboys done to address that

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<v Speaker 1>that to this point, that's a great question. We've got

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<v Speaker 1>we've got six of these, I think, and we're wrapping

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<v Speaker 1>it up today with slot receiver, So pay attention to

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<v Speaker 1>Dallas Cowboys dot Com to that. So we've got punt

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<v Speaker 1>and kick returner, we've got swing tackle, center, depth, slot receiver,

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<v Speaker 1>kicker and linebacker depth. That's a great question. I would say, man,

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<v Speaker 1>I might go with swing tackle honestly, Okay, just because

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<v Speaker 1>it's a backup position, but history says that's a starting

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<v Speaker 1>position for at least three games. Because Tyrn Smith is

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<v Speaker 1>not He's great when he plays, I mean he was,

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<v Speaker 1>he played at a Pro Bowl level. The metrics showed that,

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<v Speaker 1>but I mean he had played a full season is

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<v Speaker 1>twenty fifteen. So they have to be prepared to have

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<v Speaker 1>a starting caliber guy at that position, at a major

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<v Speaker 1>key position protecting Dak Prescott's blindside. So I don't know

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<v Speaker 1>if I think they're they're happy with what they have

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<v Speaker 1>in place there, but I don't know if they know

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<v Speaker 1>who's going to fill that spot yet, because they have

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<v Speaker 1>three young tackles who have not played a preseason game,

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<v Speaker 1>much less a regular season game. Yea, And typically that's

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<v Speaker 1>been a role where they go when they sign a

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<v Speaker 1>vet to fill that spot or at least compete for

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<v Speaker 1>that spot. It's been Tian Sky, It's been Cameron Irving,

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<v Speaker 1>Cameron Fleming, and now it is Matt Will Let's go

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<v Speaker 1>in the fourth round, Josh Ball in the fourth round

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<v Speaker 1>last year. Tyler Smith is a left side player right now,

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<v Speaker 1>although we feel I think we all feel like he's

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<v Speaker 1>you know, a strong candidate, likely the starter at left

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<v Speaker 1>guard if he doesn't lose that opportunity. I almost broke

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<v Speaker 1>out into col Switt recognizing realizing that we don't even

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<v Speaker 1>have a kicker. Well I looked at that when it

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<v Speaker 1>was like, well, yeah, that we don't have a clue

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<v Speaker 1>with that one either. Yeah, we know, and the kicker

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<v Speaker 1>that we have is undrafted, unproven, so that that gives

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<v Speaker 1>you a little bit of pause. Um, but when you

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<v Speaker 1>when you put the quote out, I mean the tweet

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<v Speaker 1>out to all of us about what the rundown was

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<v Speaker 1>going to be, you know, obviously you go through all

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<v Speaker 1>of this from Dallas Cowboys dot com and looking through

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<v Speaker 1>what we have, and I felt like it was the

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<v Speaker 1>edge rusher position. Um, when Randy Gregory signed with the Broncos,

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<v Speaker 1>it was apparent that Cowboy Nation felt as though there

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<v Speaker 1>was a hole in this defense that wasn't we were not.

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<v Speaker 1>That's well, the front office hadn't made the steps to

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<v Speaker 1>try and feel that role, and you had enough names

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<v Speaker 1>in free agency that came through that Stephen Jones was

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<v Speaker 1>just staying hood. He wasn't signing anybody, didn't matter if

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<v Speaker 1>it was an aging guy of free agent, whatever, And

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<v Speaker 1>so you saw the philosophy of what this UH front

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<v Speaker 1>office was going to have going into the season, and

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<v Speaker 1>I thought that it really I think the what I'm

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<v Speaker 1>trying to say is that the draft really kind of

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<v Speaker 1>they played their hand with the draft, with every pick

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<v Speaker 1>that was over analyzed scrutinized, and they added the depth

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<v Speaker 1>that they needed to this team. But I really believe

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<v Speaker 1>that bringing on Sam Williams and already a crowded defensive

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<v Speaker 1>front room, bringing him on, I think to me really

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<v Speaker 1>kind of plugged that hole from what you were looking

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<v Speaker 1>for for Randy Gregory. Because this guy sixty four two

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<v Speaker 1>hundred and sixty five pounds, runs a four four, is

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<v Speaker 1>quick twitch, and he comes into an edge rusher room

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<v Speaker 1>where the expectations is not all that high for him.

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<v Speaker 1>All he has to do is be a higher gun.

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<v Speaker 1>And so I believe that his production and what we

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<v Speaker 1>potentially can get from him is one of the things

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<v Speaker 1>that you gotta be. You gotta look at Sam Williams

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<v Speaker 1>and say, look, potentially you have definitely closed that gap.

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<v Speaker 1>Which player has more pressure on them to perform this year.

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<v Speaker 1>And I feel like I know the answer to this question.

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<v Speaker 1>But Sam Williams or Dante Faller Jr. Which one has

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<v Speaker 1>more pressure to produce more here in twenty twenty two,

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<v Speaker 1>specifically out of that addresser spot to fill that Randy

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<v Speaker 1>Gregory role. I mean Sam Williams because of where he

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<v Speaker 1>was taking in the draft, that's gonna put all the

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<v Speaker 1>pressure on him. But I believe equally uh Dante Fowler,

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<v Speaker 1>and you can even say neither. You could say neither

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<v Speaker 1>because of the way that the rotation is gonna go.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean work together as a team, absolutely, And it

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<v Speaker 1>went that way all season long. If you go over

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<v Speaker 1>the Dallas Cowboys defense in the way that Dan Quinn

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<v Speaker 1>implemented a lot of these guys, it was completely by

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<v Speaker 1>committee committee. It was the only guy that literally got

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<v Speaker 1>all the burn was our safety and Micah that was it. Kurson, Michael,

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<v Speaker 1>That's that's it. And so everybody else was was was

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<v Speaker 1>rotating in and out. And I just feel like, again

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<v Speaker 1>even with Dante Fowler, and I said when we brought him,

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<v Speaker 1>when we signed him, that hey, he's gonna it's gonna

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<v Speaker 1>be uphill battle for him to even make the team.

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<v Speaker 1>Obviously Dan Quinn and everything that I've heard in interviews

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<v Speaker 1>with him, he is he's really high up on Dante Fowler.

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<v Speaker 1>And if Dante Fowler can't produce anything for the Cowboys,

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<v Speaker 1>that is a win win situation. But you may potentially

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<v Speaker 1>end up hutting some really good guys at the end

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<v Speaker 1>of this and you get past can linebackers still worried

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<v Speaker 1>about it, still worried about obviously, like the prospect that

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<v Speaker 1>they drafted. You know, I had opportunity to go out

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<v Speaker 1>there and see him, see his size and all that. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>Damon Clark can see exactly how um, you know, how

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<v Speaker 1>engaged he was in terms of the walkthroughs and practice.

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<v Speaker 1>But he's not we don't have access to him. It's

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<v Speaker 1>not healthy. Yeah, he's not healthy. So we drafted somebody

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<v Speaker 1>who's a future project that we can't get our hands

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<v Speaker 1>on now. So you're still in the same position you

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<v Speaker 1>were in before the draft and in terms of impact

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<v Speaker 1>this year. So I'm still worried about that position because

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<v Speaker 1>it takes long behold is something ever happened to Micah?

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<v Speaker 1>You're then you're then you're relying on vander Esch, who

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<v Speaker 1>you weren't high on. Obviously, you brought him back out

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<v Speaker 1>of necessity, and then you got Jabille Cox who's coming

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<v Speaker 1>off of ACL that's what you're relying on. Yeah, at

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<v Speaker 1>the linebacker position, or vander Or flipped around and save

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<v Speaker 1>vanders who who had a healthy season last year, but

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<v Speaker 1>his battled injuries. He's had much of his career season

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<v Speaker 1>he ever got beginning to end through. But I agree,

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<v Speaker 1>But I also would like to include in that, how

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<v Speaker 1>many linebackers that they use last year understood at the

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<v Speaker 1>time as two linebackers and and so, And I think

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<v Speaker 1>that's maybe why they're keeping it so thin. But as

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<v Speaker 1>we sit here right now, I think that's the biggest

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<v Speaker 1>if you recognize that as a whole. They damn sure

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<v Speaker 1>recognize that as a whole. And they're gonna make a

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<v Speaker 1>move in between now in the beginning of camp to

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<v Speaker 1>bring in a veteran linebacker. I feel. I think they

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<v Speaker 1>have to because even even rolling with two linebackers, we're

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<v Speaker 1>not too deep. Yeah. Yeah, I mean, as what I'm

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<v Speaker 1>saying like and as we're talking about OTA is getting started,

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<v Speaker 1>Jill Cox is the guy that I would not expect

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<v Speaker 1>to be out there. I mean, he's gonna you know,

0:14:43.480 --> 0:14:45.080
<v Speaker 1>they think he'll be ready for Week one, but they're

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<v Speaker 1>gonna bring him along and so, yeah, numbers wise, that's

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<v Speaker 1>a spot to watch as the offseason goes on, they

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<v Speaker 1>try to upgrade or you know, at least add some depth.

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<v Speaker 1>It really reminds me of the safety position last year

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<v Speaker 1>at this time, because you were looking at the safety

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<v Speaker 1>positions like, okay, you added this guy curse like you

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<v Speaker 1>have Donovan Wilson who was coming off of a good

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<v Speaker 1>back half of the year where he was forcing turnovers,

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<v Speaker 1>but even he wasn't necessarily one hundred percent healthy, nor

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<v Speaker 1>was he really a part of the off season program.

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<v Speaker 1>At the time. You felt really thin at safety. When

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<v Speaker 1>you got through the draft, you're like, okay, where are

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<v Speaker 1>we going, what's happening here? You signed Keon O'Neil, You

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<v Speaker 1>got some bodies in the room. But then later, even

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<v Speaker 1>when you got to training camp, you got on the

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<v Speaker 1>phone and Malie Cooker was on his way to ox start. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>and he showed up a couple days after the practices

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<v Speaker 1>that started. I feel like you're going to see something

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<v Speaker 1>similar with the linebacker position because I agree with you

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<v Speaker 1>both completely. It is very very thin and if you

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<v Speaker 1>don't go and get somebody, maybe a veteran, maybe just

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<v Speaker 1>somebody who's kind of an in between her, in between

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<v Speaker 1>a contract. Maybe he needs a one year deal to

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<v Speaker 1>prove himself. Somebody like that, like a Jayren Curse potentially

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<v Speaker 1>comes in and plays that linebacker role. That's something interesting

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<v Speaker 1>to think about as well. It's very different from last

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<v Speaker 1>year when we were talking about this position, like where's

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<v Speaker 1>everybody gonna play? Like how much can Jalen Smith possibly

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<v Speaker 1>play in this group? You know, it's just not nearly

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<v Speaker 1>as deep as it was last year. We're pretty right

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<v Speaker 1>asking that question. Huh, we were right, And I don't

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<v Speaker 1>know what week it was, but that was it for

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<v Speaker 1>him the middle of the season. Then one other problem

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<v Speaker 1>spot that I do want to hit on, and you

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<v Speaker 1>guys wrote the article of finding competition for Tyler Biottish

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<v Speaker 1>at the center spot, and last year it was Tyler

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<v Speaker 1>Biottish and that was it. In terms of the center,

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<v Speaker 1>you were talking about Connor Williams maybe sliding over playing

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<v Speaker 1>as the backup that never came to fruition, thank goodness.

0:16:33.680 --> 0:16:37.720
<v Speaker 1>Matt farniok is maybe that backup center they go out

0:16:37.720 --> 0:16:40.040
<v Speaker 1>and they add two guys Alec Windstrom out of Boston

0:16:40.080 --> 0:16:43.760
<v Speaker 1>College James MP out of BYU, both solid collegiate players,

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<v Speaker 1>both very experienced, had plenty of production in college, but

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<v Speaker 1>they were both undrafted guys for a reason. Do you

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<v Speaker 1>expect there to be any competition for Tyler Biottish Because

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<v Speaker 1>across the board, if Tyler Smith wins that left guard spot,

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<v Speaker 1>I think you could maybe look at Beatish as the

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<v Speaker 1>weak link of the offensive line moving into the next

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<v Speaker 1>couple of years. I don't I don't know. I don't

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<v Speaker 1>know those other two gentlemen well enough to speak on

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<v Speaker 1>them yet, But I think I'm an advocate that every

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<v Speaker 1>position to should have competition, every single position. I don't

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<v Speaker 1>care who's at quarterback. I don't care who's that running back,

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<v Speaker 1>receiver or whatever. You can go all the way down

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<v Speaker 1>the line, the whole roster. I think everybody needs somebody

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<v Speaker 1>to push him because the moment that you get comfortable,

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<v Speaker 1>you become complacent. When you become complacent, you lose your drive.

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<v Speaker 1>You lose your drive, well, you don't win ball games.

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<v Speaker 1>So I think that I hope that they have a

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<v Speaker 1>plan to have somebody pushing him at that position, even

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<v Speaker 1>if he is the guy which we all assume that

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<v Speaker 1>he is the guy right now. They need somebody to

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<v Speaker 1>be Hey, go ahead and go ahead and snap one

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<v Speaker 1>over his head if you want to, you know what

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, you need you need that. Every player needs that.

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<v Speaker 1>That's that's the NFL. And if and if you lose

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<v Speaker 1>that competitiveness, that's the one thing that makes everybody who

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<v Speaker 1>plays in this league different because you're you're one play

0:17:55.640 --> 0:17:59.040
<v Speaker 1>away from getting fired. Yeah, you know, And that's that's

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<v Speaker 1>what keeps you on your toes. That's one of the

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<v Speaker 1>things that keeps you in your dog on you know,

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<v Speaker 1>in your in your playbook and watching film and all

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<v Speaker 1>that jazz, because if you slip up a couple of times,

0:18:07.280 --> 0:18:09.439
<v Speaker 1>there's somebody else right there willing to take your spot.

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<v Speaker 1>I agree. If he didn't have a healthy fear of

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<v Speaker 1>being replacing, something's wrong with him. I mean, his chair

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<v Speaker 1>should be hot right now. There's so many people that

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<v Speaker 1>have been talking about him from last season, him being

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<v Speaker 1>tied to Connor Williams. No one was impressed with what

0:18:24.800 --> 0:18:27.399
<v Speaker 1>Tyler Beardest did and I think a lot of times

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<v Speaker 1>you felt, especially those games where he went up against

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<v Speaker 1>those big one texts, that just kind of drove him back,

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<v Speaker 1>and you're looking at sixty three saying, hey, dog, you

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<v Speaker 1>gotta do something about that. Uh, Like like week one

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<v Speaker 1>coming up, Yeah, you got you got a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>you got a lot of matchups. But that's the thing.

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<v Speaker 1>That's the thing in the NFL. All of these guys

0:18:46.000 --> 0:18:47.800
<v Speaker 1>each and every week are going to go against a

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<v Speaker 1>bull at the one and guys that are shading that three.

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<v Speaker 1>But Tyler beodest For me. I just feel as though

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<v Speaker 1>if your coach fielding, you're like, look, this is your

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<v Speaker 1>job to lose, and if you play yourself out of

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<v Speaker 1>this role, then it's all on you giving him the opportunities.

0:19:03.840 --> 0:19:06.800
<v Speaker 1>Right now, he's over there practicing, letting him know, like

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<v Speaker 1>you have to be the brains of this. And I

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<v Speaker 1>think when he replaced, when you're trying to replace a

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<v Speaker 1>guy walking the shadows of a Travis Frederick who was

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<v Speaker 1>a cerebral maniac when it came down to calling the offensive,

0:19:19.040 --> 0:19:21.480
<v Speaker 1>calling their protections, all of those things, how far is

0:19:21.520 --> 0:19:24.720
<v Speaker 1>he progressed in his football? Like you is what I'm

0:19:24.760 --> 0:19:27.600
<v Speaker 1>thinking about, you know, because that's he has to be

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<v Speaker 1>that guy up front and so look, the added pressure

0:19:30.720 --> 0:19:33.360
<v Speaker 1>is there, but also the pressure at just making sure

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<v Speaker 1>that you have your mind wrapped around this. The what

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<v Speaker 1>they're doing up front, that's it. That's like ninety percent

0:19:39.440 --> 0:19:41.719
<v Speaker 1>of the position, right, I mean, there's the physical part,

0:19:41.760 --> 0:19:43.760
<v Speaker 1>but it's that too. Yeah, I think I agree with

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<v Speaker 1>you guys. I mean, I think they feel like if

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<v Speaker 1>if they've got left guard lockdown with more some more

0:19:50.359 --> 0:19:52.359
<v Speaker 1>strengths and more power, I think he's a better player.

0:19:52.400 --> 0:19:53.680
<v Speaker 1>That's the way they look at it. And I think

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<v Speaker 1>if they had felt like they were pressed at a

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<v Speaker 1>bunch of competition, they would have drafted somebody or brought

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<v Speaker 1>in somebody. And Matt Farnioc I know they've they've talked

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<v Speaker 1>about him a lot. They've kind of dropped his name, like, oh,

0:20:04.560 --> 0:20:07.440
<v Speaker 1>he said, here's all the time. He doesn't leave. But

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<v Speaker 1>he's played one game in college at center, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>so there's not a lot of experience behind Tyler Biotis well.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, and they did. They did sign a couple

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<v Speaker 1>guys up the draft, as you mentioned Kyle, but Lynstrom

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<v Speaker 1>smaller player. Uh MP is pretty small too. Yeah, they're

0:20:24.280 --> 0:20:26.879
<v Speaker 1>both actually undepending under pounds. Probably why you're not getting

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<v Speaker 1>drafted like that's that was part of the discussion after

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<v Speaker 1>the draft when they were asked by Nick, I think, what,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, you kind of passed on the best center

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<v Speaker 1>in the draft, and you know, maybe they looked at

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<v Speaker 1>Um linder Baum and said, maybe he's not the right

0:20:40.359 --> 0:20:44.040
<v Speaker 1>size to play that position in our scheme. So yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I just I don't know, you know, where the competition

0:20:46.000 --> 0:20:50.280
<v Speaker 1>necessarily comes from for Tyler biotis right now, although last

0:20:50.320 --> 0:20:52.200
<v Speaker 1>year I think they were looking at Connor Williams and

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<v Speaker 1>it was odd that they waited till camp to do it. Yeah,

0:20:55.280 --> 0:20:57.600
<v Speaker 1>but I think they were kind of looking at the

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<v Speaker 1>best five type thing, like if he could hand They

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<v Speaker 1>liked McGovern at left guard potentially, and maybe if he

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<v Speaker 1>can handle that center thing. That could have been a

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<v Speaker 1>competition in the middle of camp and it just didn't

0:21:07.960 --> 0:21:11.280
<v Speaker 1>pan out. It kind of felt like manufactured competition all

0:21:11.320 --> 0:21:14.200
<v Speaker 1>the way through instead of that natural competition of guys

0:21:14.200 --> 0:21:17.399
<v Speaker 1>that played center. Specifically, seeing it in hindsight, at the

0:21:17.400 --> 0:21:19.560
<v Speaker 1>time you were thinking best five, you were thinking that

0:21:19.600 --> 0:21:21.520
<v Speaker 1>it was going to be something there with Connor Williams

0:21:21.520 --> 0:21:24.880
<v Speaker 1>Connor McGovern, Maybe both those guys split the playing time.

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<v Speaker 1>If Tyler Beiottish were to not be the guy at center.

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<v Speaker 1>But I don't even think then we were talking about

0:21:29.440 --> 0:21:33.159
<v Speaker 1>Connor Williams being the starting center. So since Joe Looney

0:21:33.200 --> 0:21:35.760
<v Speaker 1>was on the roster, Tyler Beiottish has been unchallenged to

0:21:35.800 --> 0:21:39.720
<v Speaker 1>this point, more or less, more or less, yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>derby vet over here, right, I've got into the cages

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<v Speaker 1>this week. I'll go with you up that. I'm glad

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<v Speaker 1>you said that because there's a media section to this

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<v Speaker 1>right too. Yep, And you are going to be part

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<v Speaker 1>to get in it. I'm trying. That's freaking go it made.

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<v Speaker 1>hey in it? Here you go. I need a one shot.

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<v Speaker 1>I need one shot? Was here? Hey, I don't know which,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know, Yeah, I don't know. We need k

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<v Speaker 1>Y there. It is no jelly. We need k Y

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<v Speaker 1>in the home Run Derby, He's gonna hold it down

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<v Speaker 1>for the whole talking cowboy screw if he don't get

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<v Speaker 1>in there. We're throwing stuff around, throwing stuff around, like

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<v Speaker 1>the microphones in the studio. Christian's gonna be really upset.

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<v Speaker 1>But there was a tense moment in one of our

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<v Speaker 1>departments a couple weeks ago where I got challenged. He

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<v Speaker 1>said he wanted to play, and and and nickmas like

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<v Speaker 1>you kind of scoffed at me, and Nick was like, okay, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>and you like I think you stood up and You're like,

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<v Speaker 1>what I play? Okay, let's go. I would love the

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<v Speaker 1>opportunity to play. I've got charities thought of and everything.

0:25:43.760 --> 0:25:45.879
<v Speaker 1>I would love the opportunity to swing the bat. I

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<v Speaker 1>think it'd be a lot of fun either way. Either way,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't stop either way. I will be hosting the

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<v Speaker 1>event nice, so I'll be down on the field and

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<v Speaker 1>seeing the event. So come out. It's free emission. It's

0:25:58.320 --> 0:25:59.720
<v Speaker 1>always a ton of fun. You get to see the

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<v Speaker 1>play up close. Everybody's just loses. Relax. I don't think

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<v Speaker 1>he's gonna swing. Usually we don't get votes, That's what

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<v Speaker 1>I was told. And they're trying. They're trying to finagle one.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm bringing you guys take us next week for the

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<v Speaker 1>one man. Yeah sounds good, but yeah, fun stuff with

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<v Speaker 1>the reliant home run derby. Let's take some questions from Twitter.

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<v Speaker 1>By the way, well some good ones and I tease

0:26:20.320 --> 0:26:23.760
<v Speaker 1>this going into the break. Our friend Tie asked what

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<v Speaker 1>position coach? But you can't name a coordinator, so no

0:26:27.600 --> 0:26:31.840
<v Speaker 1>Dan Quinn. In this conversation, what position coach is the

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<v Speaker 1>best cook in the kitchen? Meaning which position coach will

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<v Speaker 1>max perform the talent that he has been added to

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<v Speaker 1>the team or that has been added to his team

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<v Speaker 1>to his position group. Out of the guys on the list, Rob,

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<v Speaker 1>you have one in mind? How about London Wells, Let's

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<v Speaker 1>steal it. Go ahead, you're a thief. No go ahead, No, no,

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<v Speaker 1>you go ahead, thief. Um Dalton Schultz last two years

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<v Speaker 1>with London here playing at a Pro Bowl level, putting

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<v Speaker 1>up Pro Bowl caliber production and getting a one year bag.

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<v Speaker 1>We'll see if he gets a multi year bag. But

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<v Speaker 1>I think that's a credit to coaching. And now you

0:27:12.960 --> 0:27:15.600
<v Speaker 1>draft Jake Ferguson in the fourth round and that's you know,

0:27:15.680 --> 0:27:17.920
<v Speaker 1>that's going to be a key component to try to

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<v Speaker 1>add to this blocking and I think I think they've

0:27:20.200 --> 0:27:21.840
<v Speaker 1>got a guy in London Wells who can who can

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<v Speaker 1>bring that out of him. Okay, why do you agree?

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<v Speaker 1>Because I mean, from that standpoint, Dalton Schultz is not

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<v Speaker 1>the most physically gifted individual that we've ever seen in

0:27:32.440 --> 0:27:35.240
<v Speaker 1>this league. But yeah, he's been productive for this particular organization.

0:27:35.320 --> 0:27:38.000
<v Speaker 1>They productive enough for them to franchise him. So you

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<v Speaker 1>look at that development with with the skill set that

0:27:41.400 --> 0:27:44.040
<v Speaker 1>he has and it doesn't just show up. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>that's a lot of a lot of credit obviously to

0:27:46.520 --> 0:27:48.000
<v Speaker 1>Dalton in the work that he's put in on and

0:27:48.080 --> 0:27:50.399
<v Speaker 1>off the field, but there's a guy who coaches him

0:27:50.440 --> 0:27:52.960
<v Speaker 1>every single day, and they don't get enough recognition and

0:27:53.040 --> 0:27:54.760
<v Speaker 1>I think that London has done a heck of a job.

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<v Speaker 1>And I've seen him since my time with the Giants,

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<v Speaker 1>you know personally, I know personally, but the development that

0:28:01.560 --> 0:28:04.679
<v Speaker 1>he's put into himself, um, you know, into getting himself

0:28:04.760 --> 0:28:08.480
<v Speaker 1>in shape and mentally overhauling himself and getting himself changing

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<v Speaker 1>over from the offensive line side and over to the

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<v Speaker 1>to the tight end side. He's done the heck of

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<v Speaker 1>a job within himself in terms of coaching him and

0:28:15.680 --> 0:28:17.639
<v Speaker 1>now he's coming He's helping out these guys at the

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<v Speaker 1>end of the tight end room and then showing up

0:28:19.680 --> 0:28:22.200
<v Speaker 1>every week and everybody's like, oh, man, Dalton just came

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<v Speaker 1>up and had a heck of a year. It doesn't

0:28:23.840 --> 0:28:25.720
<v Speaker 1>just work like that. Players don't just show up and

0:28:25.760 --> 0:28:27.440
<v Speaker 1>just start playing well. There's a lot of work that

0:28:27.480 --> 0:28:29.320
<v Speaker 1>goes on the back end. And hats off to him.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, I can't pick a coordinator, so I'm gonna

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<v Speaker 1>go with Al Harris on defense. I was gonna say too,

0:28:35.680 --> 0:28:38.320
<v Speaker 1>so we al Harris, And for me, I think Al

0:28:38.400 --> 0:28:41.720
<v Speaker 1>Harris and his influence on these defensive backs. Um, you

0:28:41.800 --> 0:28:45.520
<v Speaker 1>see the jump that Trayvon Diggs has made and his progression,

0:28:45.600 --> 0:28:49.960
<v Speaker 1>even progression even Brown UH and his second season under

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<v Speaker 1>UH with with Al Harris, I think it's it's really

0:28:53.360 --> 0:28:57.520
<v Speaker 1>something to see how good coaching can change players and

0:28:58.160 --> 0:29:01.400
<v Speaker 1>Lewis guys like that. Just there's there was a little

0:29:01.440 --> 0:29:03.320
<v Speaker 1>bit of a spark to that dB room and that

0:29:03.440 --> 0:29:07.040
<v Speaker 1>dB group, And just as the season got rolled in

0:29:07.160 --> 0:29:09.240
<v Speaker 1>the turnover started to come in, you start to see

0:29:09.240 --> 0:29:12.200
<v Speaker 1>the camaraderie amongst that group. And I think we started

0:29:12.200 --> 0:29:14.720
<v Speaker 1>to see that in OTAs like we see it on

0:29:14.760 --> 0:29:17.280
<v Speaker 1>the field, but we see the way these guys operate

0:29:17.360 --> 0:29:19.960
<v Speaker 1>out here and OTAs and Al Harris man, he has

0:29:20.000 --> 0:29:22.560
<v Speaker 1>his pants pulled all the way up, he's got tape

0:29:22.600 --> 0:29:24.880
<v Speaker 1>on me, and then he can still go, yeah, get

0:29:24.920 --> 0:29:26.720
<v Speaker 1>that man a helmet. You know, he can still get

0:29:26.760 --> 0:29:28.480
<v Speaker 1>out there and do it. But I just love the

0:29:28.880 --> 0:29:31.520
<v Speaker 1>tight knit group that we have with the DBS. But

0:29:31.840 --> 0:29:33.960
<v Speaker 1>I just Al Harris is one of those coaches that

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<v Speaker 1>I see him being a chef in the kitchen as

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<v Speaker 1>I want to say what somebody might have been Treyvon

0:29:38.720 --> 0:29:41.200
<v Speaker 1>said last year. I mean there's probably some extra weight

0:29:41.920 --> 0:29:44.840
<v Speaker 1>that's carried with his message because he's bland done it

0:29:45.000 --> 0:29:46.880
<v Speaker 1>at a high level, a high level at a Super

0:29:46.920 --> 0:29:49.680
<v Speaker 1>Bowl level like that that carries weight with players for sure.

0:29:50.000 --> 0:29:52.360
<v Speaker 1>And one of the images that comes to mind with

0:29:52.480 --> 0:29:55.320
<v Speaker 1>that is Treybon during training camp in twenty twenty when

0:29:55.320 --> 0:29:57.440
<v Speaker 1>we were out here, when were socially distant and we

0:29:57.560 --> 0:30:01.280
<v Speaker 1>were watching from over the top. Every three single rep,

0:30:01.560 --> 0:30:03.880
<v Speaker 1>Trayvon went straight back to Al Harris. There was that

0:30:04.000 --> 0:30:06.600
<v Speaker 1>conversation back and forth, and you saw the jump. I mean,

0:30:06.680 --> 0:30:09.560
<v Speaker 1>Heckma mentioned it a moment ago that, yeah, Treyvon Digs

0:30:09.560 --> 0:30:12.000
<v Speaker 1>had a jump, but the whole cornerback room had a

0:30:12.080 --> 0:30:14.280
<v Speaker 1>jump from last year because we went in We went

0:30:14.320 --> 0:30:17.720
<v Speaker 1>into the draft last year thinking cornerback, cornerback, cornerback. You

0:30:17.800 --> 0:30:21.520
<v Speaker 1>didn't add anything specific, but you saw jumps from Anthony Brown,

0:30:21.600 --> 0:30:25.680
<v Speaker 1>Jordan Lewis, the addition of Kelvin Joseph, but that was

0:30:25.720 --> 0:30:29.560
<v Speaker 1>really non existent in his rookie season. Yet cornerback wasn't

0:30:29.600 --> 0:30:32.200
<v Speaker 1>a top need into this draft this year, and that

0:30:32.760 --> 0:30:36.040
<v Speaker 1>to me shows coaching is paying off. And you can't

0:30:36.080 --> 0:30:39.400
<v Speaker 1>necessarily mention Al Harris Without also mentioning Joe Ed Jr.

0:30:39.480 --> 0:30:41.480
<v Speaker 1>And the way that he's kind of played an impact

0:30:41.560 --> 0:30:45.000
<v Speaker 1>as the defensive passing game coordinator, as a secondary coach,

0:30:45.080 --> 0:30:47.800
<v Speaker 1>and somebody that handed George back and forth. You think

0:30:47.840 --> 0:30:51.120
<v Speaker 1>about that's another good Yeah. I mean I mean not

0:30:51.320 --> 0:30:54.120
<v Speaker 1>talk about a player that's just like constantly attached. I

0:30:54.160 --> 0:30:57.480
<v Speaker 1>mean Mica. They have a great relationship with George Edwards. Yes, yeah,

0:30:57.840 --> 0:30:59.880
<v Speaker 1>so I think all three of those guys can buy.

0:31:00.280 --> 0:31:02.360
<v Speaker 1>And that's a big reason why Jay Wren Curse was

0:31:02.400 --> 0:31:05.360
<v Speaker 1>successful was because of what Joett Junior, George Edwards were

0:31:05.400 --> 0:31:07.040
<v Speaker 1>able to do, and then of course Mica being what

0:31:07.120 --> 0:31:09.719
<v Speaker 1>he was. So yeah, I think those are those are

0:31:10.480 --> 0:31:13.600
<v Speaker 1>some good names. Old fans understand the impact that coaches

0:31:13.680 --> 0:31:19.960
<v Speaker 1>have on players. How it's major. You take somebody, there's

0:31:20.000 --> 0:31:22.120
<v Speaker 1>there's there's coaches, and then there's there's a system. Right,

0:31:22.200 --> 0:31:24.240
<v Speaker 1>so the coaches have to understand the players and their

0:31:24.440 --> 0:31:26.560
<v Speaker 1>their gifts and talents well enough to put them in

0:31:26.600 --> 0:31:28.600
<v Speaker 1>a position and be successful. But then there's also the

0:31:28.720 --> 0:31:32.600
<v Speaker 1>development portion of it. So you take a player outside

0:31:32.600 --> 0:31:37.240
<v Speaker 1>of his organization doctor Cordelle Patterson, right, good player, talented,

0:31:37.400 --> 0:31:39.480
<v Speaker 1>return man, cool. All of a sudden, he goes to

0:31:39.520 --> 0:31:42.720
<v Speaker 1>a new organization with some coaches that understand how to

0:31:42.840 --> 0:31:45.640
<v Speaker 1>utilize his talent and develop it and give him the confidence.

0:31:45.640 --> 0:31:47.320
<v Speaker 1>All of a sudden, you have somebody believing in you

0:31:47.400 --> 0:31:49.760
<v Speaker 1>and showing you some tips at the trade of the trade,

0:31:50.200 --> 0:31:52.960
<v Speaker 1>and you start bawling, right, same thing with what you

0:31:53.000 --> 0:31:56.800
<v Speaker 1>guys just mentioned. Tradema talented, young talent, all right, future

0:31:57.200 --> 0:31:58.719
<v Speaker 1>is gonna be high on him, but no, let's get

0:31:58.760 --> 0:32:00.480
<v Speaker 1>him with a cat that has on this at the

0:32:00.560 --> 0:32:03.280
<v Speaker 1>highest level. Um. And by the way, he still could

0:32:03.320 --> 0:32:04.920
<v Speaker 1>put him dog on, sweats up and get out there

0:32:04.920 --> 0:32:06.960
<v Speaker 1>and put hands on somebody if he wanted to, if

0:32:06.960 --> 0:32:09.479
<v Speaker 1>he wanted to line up on CD right now, he could, right,

0:32:09.480 --> 0:32:11.920
<v Speaker 1>you know what, he could. He's that guy. He's that

0:32:12.840 --> 0:32:15.040
<v Speaker 1>listen here, he gonna he gonna get some Honda. He's

0:32:15.080 --> 0:32:17.200
<v Speaker 1>gonna pull out some Vet moves on him. Okay, he's

0:32:17.200 --> 0:32:19.200
<v Speaker 1>gonna get hit the chest three times that uncle strength,

0:32:19.360 --> 0:32:22.080
<v Speaker 1>right Okay, No, no, he might once they start running,

0:32:22.080 --> 0:32:24.600
<v Speaker 1>it might be a different story. But he has the

0:32:24.760 --> 0:32:27.200
<v Speaker 1>tricks and all those and all those little crafty things

0:32:27.280 --> 0:32:29.000
<v Speaker 1>that he can pass along to those guys that you

0:32:29.120 --> 0:32:31.480
<v Speaker 1>just can't no disrespect to other coaches, that you just

0:32:31.640 --> 0:32:34.480
<v Speaker 1>can't get from other coaches. Now, through experience and all

0:32:34.520 --> 0:32:36.520
<v Speaker 1>that jazz, they're gonna have that in their bag from

0:32:36.520 --> 0:32:39.120
<v Speaker 1>people that they've worked with but when you're a player

0:32:39.880 --> 0:32:42.760
<v Speaker 1>that has competed at that level and balled out and

0:32:42.880 --> 0:32:44.920
<v Speaker 1>been All Pro and Super Bowls and all that jazz,

0:32:44.960 --> 0:32:47.520
<v Speaker 1>and then you turn around and coach. To your point,

0:32:47.600 --> 0:32:50.200
<v Speaker 1>there's such a high regard for you as as as

0:32:50.240 --> 0:32:52.080
<v Speaker 1>that player and a person that they're gonna look up to. Quick.

0:32:52.120 --> 0:32:54.480
<v Speaker 1>That's what Jake kids doing for the MAVs to drop

0:32:54.520 --> 0:32:56.800
<v Speaker 1>in my MAVs reference real quick. I mean, he's done

0:32:56.840 --> 0:32:59.200
<v Speaker 1>a hell of it. And the season ain't over tonight

0:32:59.320 --> 0:33:01.720
<v Speaker 1>last that's the last day of the year. No, it's not,

0:33:02.360 --> 0:33:04.720
<v Speaker 1>it's not. No. No, I just wanted to figure back

0:33:04.720 --> 0:33:06.840
<v Speaker 1>off of that because it's so much of that that's

0:33:06.880 --> 0:33:09.280
<v Speaker 1>so true, and not only in a football sense, but

0:33:09.400 --> 0:33:12.440
<v Speaker 1>in a person of business senses, you know, not being

0:33:12.480 --> 0:33:15.120
<v Speaker 1>able to manage the talent that you have. And that's

0:33:15.160 --> 0:33:18.200
<v Speaker 1>why the great CEO's executives are who they are, because

0:33:18.240 --> 0:33:22.840
<v Speaker 1>they know how to delegate and make maximize the talent

0:33:22.920 --> 0:33:24.360
<v Speaker 1>that they have. I think we came off of a

0:33:24.440 --> 0:33:27.480
<v Speaker 1>season with Coach Nolan where we saw guys running all

0:33:27.520 --> 0:33:29.520
<v Speaker 1>over the place, and you have to give coach Nolan

0:33:29.760 --> 0:33:32.000
<v Speaker 1>a lot of grace because of COVID and all of that,

0:33:32.160 --> 0:33:35.000
<v Speaker 1>but I just see players not being used the way

0:33:35.040 --> 0:33:37.680
<v Speaker 1>that they should have been. And now with dan Quinn

0:33:37.760 --> 0:33:41.320
<v Speaker 1>stepping in, you see a guy that recognizes Michael Parsons,

0:33:41.600 --> 0:33:43.760
<v Speaker 1>And I don't believe it was until he chased down

0:33:43.840 --> 0:33:45.600
<v Speaker 1>Justin Herbert that the light came on. He was like,

0:33:45.680 --> 0:33:48.440
<v Speaker 1>wait a minute, I'm not using this right. I need to,

0:33:48.720 --> 0:33:50.840
<v Speaker 1>you know. So it's not until you see that that

0:33:50.960 --> 0:33:53.080
<v Speaker 1>car get drove the way it's supposed to that you

0:33:53.240 --> 0:33:56.120
<v Speaker 1>know how to manage it. And so but I absolutely

0:33:56.200 --> 0:33:58.920
<v Speaker 1>agree with the difference that coaches make. And this provides

0:33:58.920 --> 0:34:01.640
<v Speaker 1>a great segue into Alfred's question. He wants us to

0:34:01.720 --> 0:34:05.120
<v Speaker 1>talk about the offensive line coaches because their ability to

0:34:05.240 --> 0:34:09.240
<v Speaker 1>develop young talent is going to be on display very quickly.

0:34:09.320 --> 0:34:12.080
<v Speaker 1>And we talked about the swing tackle position with Josh

0:34:12.160 --> 0:34:14.719
<v Speaker 1>Ball Matt will Let's go then in the interior of

0:34:14.760 --> 0:34:17.040
<v Speaker 1>the offensive line with guys like Tyler Smith and Matt

0:34:17.080 --> 0:34:19.759
<v Speaker 1>Farney Off. Guys that have been drafted or signed in

0:34:19.880 --> 0:34:21.800
<v Speaker 1>each of the last two years are going to have

0:34:22.040 --> 0:34:24.840
<v Speaker 1>to make an impact early. So how much confidence do

0:34:24.880 --> 0:34:27.120
<v Speaker 1>you have rob that Joe Philbin, even though he's been

0:34:27.160 --> 0:34:29.439
<v Speaker 1>in the league for seventeen years, he's done good things.

0:34:29.760 --> 0:34:32.040
<v Speaker 1>He's also had some lows at the same time. But

0:34:32.080 --> 0:34:34.360
<v Speaker 1>then you've also got Jeff Blasco kind of tag teaming it.

0:34:34.520 --> 0:34:36.840
<v Speaker 1>What is your confidence level like in the offensive coaching

0:34:36.920 --> 0:34:39.480
<v Speaker 1>staff offensive line coaching staff. Yeah, I think it's there.

0:34:39.480 --> 0:34:41.520
<v Speaker 1>I mean, I think you said it. With his experience.

0:34:41.600 --> 0:34:43.600
<v Speaker 1>I mean, he's been a head coach, he's he's worked,

0:34:43.840 --> 0:34:45.920
<v Speaker 1>and I think you know, there there were some issues

0:34:46.000 --> 0:34:47.840
<v Speaker 1>last year with the offensive line, no doubt, but I

0:34:47.920 --> 0:34:51.200
<v Speaker 1>think I think you saw guys grow too over the

0:34:51.320 --> 0:34:55.640
<v Speaker 1>last two years overall, with Joe philbin here and Terrence

0:34:55.640 --> 0:34:58.360
<v Speaker 1>Steel's the best example. I mean, the guy that's undrafted

0:34:58.400 --> 0:35:00.640
<v Speaker 1>and is at a point now where they're like, we

0:35:00.760 --> 0:35:02.800
<v Speaker 1>can let Lyle Collins go and he can step in

0:35:02.880 --> 0:35:06.640
<v Speaker 1>and play that position. To your point, though, that might

0:35:06.719 --> 0:35:11.400
<v Speaker 1>be the most important coaching job on staff, like going forward,

0:35:11.480 --> 0:35:14.560
<v Speaker 1>if an offensive coordinator, Yeah, well, I guess I'm not

0:35:14.680 --> 0:35:17.040
<v Speaker 1>talking other than coordinators like and of course Mike, but

0:35:17.200 --> 0:35:20.880
<v Speaker 1>like just alone, just Tyler Smith. Can he jump in

0:35:21.080 --> 0:35:23.719
<v Speaker 1>right away as a first round pick and help you

0:35:23.920 --> 0:35:27.719
<v Speaker 1>immediately like that development because he's young too, you know,

0:35:28.120 --> 0:35:29.719
<v Speaker 1>if there's a knock on him coming out is that

0:35:29.800 --> 0:35:33.320
<v Speaker 1>he is kind of raw from a talent perspective. So

0:35:33.680 --> 0:35:36.000
<v Speaker 1>that's alone might be the biggest coaching job going forward,

0:35:36.000 --> 0:35:38.120
<v Speaker 1>just kind of like Michael was last year, developing MICA's

0:35:38.120 --> 0:35:40.879
<v Speaker 1>skills and finding a role for him. Philbin has done

0:35:40.880 --> 0:35:44.320
<v Speaker 1>an absolutely amazing job since walking into building here and

0:35:44.760 --> 0:35:48.120
<v Speaker 1>you think about the amount of players that he's utilized, Yeah,

0:35:48.360 --> 0:35:50.799
<v Speaker 1>the number of number of lineups that he's had over

0:35:50.880 --> 0:35:53.520
<v Speaker 1>the past two seasons. This dude has I mean, he's

0:35:54.040 --> 0:35:57.480
<v Speaker 1>done a miraculous job. And you're not on an island

0:35:57.600 --> 0:35:59.279
<v Speaker 1>in this There are people that think he's done a

0:35:59.320 --> 0:36:01.520
<v Speaker 1>great job, and I think the staff across the way

0:36:01.600 --> 0:36:03.759
<v Speaker 1>thinks he's had done a great job. But there's a

0:36:04.320 --> 0:36:07.440
<v Speaker 1>good contingency of people that don't feel that way, that

0:36:07.560 --> 0:36:10.600
<v Speaker 1>feel like down and I understand why they feel that way.

0:36:10.800 --> 0:36:14.040
<v Speaker 1>You understand there's two aspects to the office alignment. Office

0:36:14.040 --> 0:36:17.120
<v Speaker 1>alignemen have to keep your quarterback upright and give him

0:36:17.200 --> 0:36:19.240
<v Speaker 1>opportunity to throw the ball. And then the office alignement

0:36:19.320 --> 0:36:21.960
<v Speaker 1>have to be dog on you know, gorillaz those and

0:36:22.239 --> 0:36:23.920
<v Speaker 1>get some guys out the dog on mud and drive

0:36:24.000 --> 0:36:25.680
<v Speaker 1>him off the ball and not be penalized and not

0:36:25.760 --> 0:36:28.320
<v Speaker 1>be penalized. But that's so much of that. There's technique

0:36:28.360 --> 0:36:31.600
<v Speaker 1>that it's involved in both. But one particularly has a

0:36:31.880 --> 0:36:35.480
<v Speaker 1>different mindset, and that's running. That's running game right. Run blocking,

0:36:35.600 --> 0:36:38.600
<v Speaker 1>it's different you that takes a different mindset to get

0:36:38.680 --> 0:36:41.520
<v Speaker 1>underneath somebody who's three hundred plus pounds called two ninety

0:36:41.640 --> 0:36:44.600
<v Speaker 1>three hundred and thirty pounds and drive them off the ball.

0:36:45.280 --> 0:36:48.480
<v Speaker 1>Technique alone is not going to get that done. You

0:36:48.600 --> 0:36:51.240
<v Speaker 1>have to have a dog out there. So I don't

0:36:51.360 --> 0:36:55.080
<v Speaker 1>know if they've had those dogs out there recently, which

0:36:55.160 --> 0:36:56.520
<v Speaker 1>is why I think they made the pick that they

0:36:56.600 --> 0:36:59.000
<v Speaker 1>made this year in the draft, even though he's raw

0:36:59.320 --> 0:37:00.840
<v Speaker 1>and he still had some things that he needs to

0:37:00.840 --> 0:37:04.400
<v Speaker 1>shure up. There's no question mark about about the dog mentality.

0:37:04.440 --> 0:37:06.560
<v Speaker 1>He's he's a drag. He's a dog in there, and

0:37:06.719 --> 0:37:08.920
<v Speaker 1>that's what they need. They needed somebody with some attitude

0:37:09.120 --> 0:37:10.640
<v Speaker 1>who's gonna be out there to be able to go

0:37:10.719 --> 0:37:13.080
<v Speaker 1>out there and deliver it. Now, take some of that coaching,

0:37:13.480 --> 0:37:16.480
<v Speaker 1>take that technique, apply it to that that that dog

0:37:16.600 --> 0:37:18.680
<v Speaker 1>on you know, tenacity that you have, and move some

0:37:18.719 --> 0:37:20.560
<v Speaker 1>of these guys up the dog on paint, because that's

0:37:20.600 --> 0:37:23.120
<v Speaker 1>what this officing life needs. Right now. They need some grit.

0:37:23.560 --> 0:37:26.479
<v Speaker 1>So Philbin, yes, I understand, you gotta get the running

0:37:26.520 --> 0:37:29.239
<v Speaker 1>game going, but that's not all on him. Passing game

0:37:29.320 --> 0:37:30.919
<v Speaker 1>is a little bit easier to coach up, a little

0:37:30.920 --> 0:37:32.880
<v Speaker 1>bit easier to coach up getting guys moving off the

0:37:32.960 --> 0:37:35.960
<v Speaker 1>ball a lot different. Now, you know, when you talk

0:37:35.960 --> 0:37:39.960
<v Speaker 1>about the island that Isaiah's own giving Philbin praise, there's

0:37:39.960 --> 0:37:42.399
<v Speaker 1>so many people that just thought he did a horrible job,

0:37:42.480 --> 0:37:45.120
<v Speaker 1>and we're calling for his job really in a lot

0:37:45.160 --> 0:37:47.960
<v Speaker 1>of ways. And but I'm I'm I'm on your side

0:37:48.200 --> 0:37:50.759
<v Speaker 1>on this because here's what I know about football. And

0:37:50.840 --> 0:37:52.640
<v Speaker 1>if you look at any program worth it salt, you

0:37:52.719 --> 0:37:55.320
<v Speaker 1>go into the offensive line room, tell me who the

0:37:55.480 --> 0:37:57.640
<v Speaker 1>offensive line coaches, and I'll tell you the success you're

0:37:57.680 --> 0:37:59.520
<v Speaker 1>having as a program. Because if you don't have an

0:37:59.520 --> 0:38:02.479
<v Speaker 1>offensive line coach worthy're worth the salt, they don't have nothing.

0:38:02.840 --> 0:38:05.880
<v Speaker 1>And any you look at the pay rate of offensive

0:38:05.920 --> 0:38:08.919
<v Speaker 1>line coaches, they try and pay overpaid in keeping. We've

0:38:09.000 --> 0:38:12.560
<v Speaker 1>had some great offensive line coaches here that have gotten

0:38:12.640 --> 0:38:15.200
<v Speaker 1>things going and filbing it's wanting to be in that

0:38:15.360 --> 0:38:17.160
<v Speaker 1>list of it. I have to allow the grace for

0:38:17.160 --> 0:38:19.920
<v Speaker 1>a filbing as well, because of the injuries that he

0:38:20.040 --> 0:38:23.360
<v Speaker 1>had to deal with Leo Collins last season coming in

0:38:23.719 --> 0:38:27.880
<v Speaker 1>and obviously you know the labor room and just the

0:38:28.040 --> 0:38:31.479
<v Speaker 1>musical chairs of the offensive line and Tyren Smith also

0:38:31.640 --> 0:38:36.440
<v Speaker 1>going on going down. But I think developing players in

0:38:36.480 --> 0:38:38.960
<v Speaker 1>the NFL has really became a thing of the past, man,

0:38:39.120 --> 0:38:41.640
<v Speaker 1>because if a guy didn't work out, it's so easy

0:38:41.680 --> 0:38:43.120
<v Speaker 1>to call him a bus and then cut him and

0:38:43.160 --> 0:38:44.920
<v Speaker 1>get rid of him. And then, like we just were

0:38:44.960 --> 0:38:47.360
<v Speaker 1>talking about, another coach gets his hands on him and

0:38:47.440 --> 0:38:50.880
<v Speaker 1>he redevelops this guy and turns him into something, and

0:38:50.920 --> 0:38:52.400
<v Speaker 1>we're all looking like, well, damn, I thought it was

0:38:52.480 --> 0:38:54.360
<v Speaker 1>a bus though he was in the wrong system and

0:38:54.440 --> 0:38:57.200
<v Speaker 1>no one could develop him. The easiest thing and always

0:38:57.480 --> 0:38:59.760
<v Speaker 1>Nate Newton is somebody that I love having these football

0:38:59.760 --> 0:39:02.480
<v Speaker 1>come sessions with because as an offensive line he'll tell you, man,

0:39:02.520 --> 0:39:04.440
<v Speaker 1>the easiest thing to do is a run block, because

0:39:05.000 --> 0:39:08.439
<v Speaker 1>most high schools have a sled. You know, you blocking sled.

0:39:08.560 --> 0:39:10.160
<v Speaker 1>You know he's five on, put five on it, you

0:39:10.239 --> 0:39:12.440
<v Speaker 1>drive it down the field. That's the easiest thing to

0:39:12.440 --> 0:39:15.840
<v Speaker 1>get a three hundred pound man to do is go forward.

0:39:16.239 --> 0:39:21.080
<v Speaker 1>But pass blocking, that's where a lot of the troubles

0:39:21.120 --> 0:39:23.480
<v Speaker 1>come in for offensive line and technique, and we saw

0:39:23.800 --> 0:39:26.359
<v Speaker 1>those troubles with the clock and Doc and Dak's head

0:39:26.480 --> 0:39:28.640
<v Speaker 1>last season with a lot of the injuries that he

0:39:28.800 --> 0:39:31.120
<v Speaker 1>was having up front. It just changed the dynamic of

0:39:31.200 --> 0:39:33.520
<v Speaker 1>the offense. We couldn't play field position in ball control

0:39:33.560 --> 0:39:37.880
<v Speaker 1>anymore because teams like Vick Vangio who had the blueprint

0:39:38.040 --> 0:39:41.359
<v Speaker 1>and started coming after us. There's a lot of air

0:39:41.480 --> 0:39:45.040
<v Speaker 1>quotations because you know what, he's gonna live rent free

0:39:45.080 --> 0:39:47.960
<v Speaker 1>in my head because of his whole you know how

0:39:47.960 --> 0:39:50.520
<v Speaker 1>about them Broncos in the blueprint deal. It's too bad

0:39:50.560 --> 0:39:52.560
<v Speaker 1>he's not the coach for these joint practices and the

0:39:52.600 --> 0:39:54.879
<v Speaker 1>preseason game coming up, man, just say him and Mike.

0:39:54.920 --> 0:39:57.040
<v Speaker 1>That would have been fun because we will see Tyrn

0:39:57.080 --> 0:40:01.080
<v Speaker 1>Smith versus Randy Gregory again though in those practice that's

0:40:01.120 --> 0:40:04.800
<v Speaker 1>gonna do. Yes, yes, we will. Yeah, Hey, we know

0:40:04.880 --> 0:40:08.839
<v Speaker 1>who dominated that those match ups. You know that's why

0:40:09.080 --> 0:40:12.680
<v Speaker 1>timers haven't Tims Smith back healthy being able to develop

0:40:12.800 --> 0:40:15.799
<v Speaker 1>the left guard and you're you're right. If he can

0:40:15.880 --> 0:40:18.880
<v Speaker 1>get this guy already with the what he has and

0:40:19.040 --> 0:40:21.720
<v Speaker 1>you know he has that dog mentality and just refine

0:40:21.800 --> 0:40:23.560
<v Speaker 1>what he has already. I expect him to be a

0:40:23.600 --> 0:40:25.600
<v Speaker 1>player for us. Just for those who may not know,

0:40:25.719 --> 0:40:28.719
<v Speaker 1>the Cowboys do have two joint practices with the LA

0:40:28.880 --> 0:40:32.760
<v Speaker 1>Chargers August seventeenth and eighteenth before their preseason game against

0:40:32.800 --> 0:40:34.800
<v Speaker 1>the Chargers, and then they also have a joint practice

0:40:34.880 --> 0:40:38.320
<v Speaker 1>in Denver against the Broncos on April eleventh, prior to

0:40:38.400 --> 0:40:41.839
<v Speaker 1>their first preseason game against Denver. So that came out

0:40:41.880 --> 0:40:43.400
<v Speaker 1>this last week. I don't think we've hit that as

0:40:43.440 --> 0:40:47.200
<v Speaker 1>a storyline on this show. Jake asked which young defensive

0:40:47.239 --> 0:40:50.680
<v Speaker 1>tackle do you expect more from this year? No injuries.

0:40:50.960 --> 0:40:54.400
<v Speaker 1>Let's pretend they're healthy all season long. OsO Diggi Zuoa

0:40:54.640 --> 0:40:59.160
<v Speaker 1>or Neville Gallimore? Isaiah, who you got Galimore? Why? Because

0:40:59.600 --> 0:41:04.880
<v Speaker 1>the there of clogging up the middle in this defense

0:41:05.000 --> 0:41:08.799
<v Speaker 1>last year and the necessity for that role, the reason

0:41:08.840 --> 0:41:10.840
<v Speaker 1>why they went out and drafted somebody, So they drafted

0:41:10.880 --> 0:41:13.920
<v Speaker 1>somebody to pretty much, Hey, we just talked about competition,

0:41:14.400 --> 0:41:16.399
<v Speaker 1>So you didn't get it done the way in which

0:41:16.400 --> 0:41:18.120
<v Speaker 1>you wanted to get it done. So here, here we're

0:41:18.120 --> 0:41:20.840
<v Speaker 1>gonna put another another, another guy in there to compete

0:41:20.880 --> 0:41:24.000
<v Speaker 1>with you. He was traditionally a three technique at Oklahoma.

0:41:24.080 --> 0:41:26.040
<v Speaker 1>He played a lot of three technique as a rookie.

0:41:26.440 --> 0:41:28.400
<v Speaker 1>Do you expect him, because he is a little bit

0:41:28.440 --> 0:41:31.040
<v Speaker 1>bigger than some of those other guys that are in

0:41:31.160 --> 0:41:33.919
<v Speaker 1>that three technique rotation, to maybe slide over and play

0:41:33.920 --> 0:41:36.040
<v Speaker 1>the nose a little bit now that Brent Urban's not

0:41:36.120 --> 0:41:38.040
<v Speaker 1>a part of it. And you also don't you have

0:41:38.239 --> 0:41:41.680
<v Speaker 1>two young guys in Quentin Bohanna and John Ridgeway. However,

0:41:42.440 --> 0:41:44.800
<v Speaker 1>nevels by far the more veteran of those two, and

0:41:44.920 --> 0:41:47.200
<v Speaker 1>even he's still a young guy. I don't think, I

0:41:47.320 --> 0:41:49.800
<v Speaker 1>honestly don't think that this team plans on having a

0:41:50.000 --> 0:41:53.600
<v Speaker 1>true nose. I think that they stunt so much and

0:41:53.680 --> 0:41:56.160
<v Speaker 1>they move around so much on the defensive line, and

0:41:56.280 --> 0:41:58.040
<v Speaker 1>they want those linebackers to be able to flow and

0:41:58.120 --> 0:42:01.080
<v Speaker 1>get those those matchups on office liniment with half a body,

0:42:01.160 --> 0:42:02.800
<v Speaker 1>not having to take them on head on, but getting

0:42:02.800 --> 0:42:04.279
<v Speaker 1>them half a body. Well, in order to do that,

0:42:04.680 --> 0:42:07.080
<v Speaker 1>you need your defensive line crossing the front of these

0:42:07.120 --> 0:42:09.640
<v Speaker 1>office alignment and causing some confusion up there. So I

0:42:09.719 --> 0:42:12.000
<v Speaker 1>don't think that this team intends to have a true one.

0:42:12.040 --> 0:42:14.680
<v Speaker 1>So I think Gallimore should be confident in his role

0:42:14.760 --> 0:42:16.800
<v Speaker 1>in terms of transitioning from what he did in college.

0:42:17.280 --> 0:42:19.480
<v Speaker 1>But those guys have to be able to move across

0:42:19.520 --> 0:42:22.560
<v Speaker 1>the front of office, alignement, and get penetration. That's the difference.

0:42:22.880 --> 0:42:25.400
<v Speaker 1>The penetration aspect is where this team has struggled over

0:42:25.440 --> 0:42:27.720
<v Speaker 1>the past few seasons. They need to get somebody moving

0:42:27.920 --> 0:42:30.120
<v Speaker 1>up the field and messes and messing things up in

0:42:30.160 --> 0:42:33.040
<v Speaker 1>the backfield. And that's why I take also Diggi Zoo

0:42:33.160 --> 0:42:35.239
<v Speaker 1>because I think his quick twitch and his point of

0:42:35.239 --> 0:42:40.480
<v Speaker 1>attack explosiveness is different from Neville Gallimore. Same beast, same animal,

0:42:40.760 --> 0:42:43.160
<v Speaker 1>just different, you know. And I think also Diggi Zeol

0:42:43.280 --> 0:42:46.000
<v Speaker 1>just brings that quickness to it that you need when

0:42:46.000 --> 0:42:48.120
<v Speaker 1>you talk about penetration. But I just want to take

0:42:48.200 --> 0:42:51.040
<v Speaker 1>the whole world tradition as it relates to our defense

0:42:51.080 --> 0:42:53.439
<v Speaker 1>is just bump, just ball it up and throw it away,

0:42:53.480 --> 0:42:56.439
<v Speaker 1>because there's nothing traditional about what we ask these guys

0:42:56.520 --> 0:42:58.719
<v Speaker 1>to do in and out of the scheme. Because I

0:42:58.800 --> 0:43:01.839
<v Speaker 1>think of the position X that we like to enjoy

0:43:02.000 --> 0:43:05.840
<v Speaker 1>with with our players, and so also is that player

0:43:05.880 --> 0:43:07.840
<v Speaker 1>that I believe second year coming up for him, Man,

0:43:07.880 --> 0:43:10.400
<v Speaker 1>it's gonna you should be excited about what he did

0:43:10.480 --> 0:43:12.879
<v Speaker 1>in his first year. The coaches are very excited about LSA.

0:43:13.040 --> 0:43:15.040
<v Speaker 1>I think they feel like, you know, he's gonna be

0:43:15.160 --> 0:43:16.840
<v Speaker 1>like a ten year guy in this league, just just

0:43:16.960 --> 0:43:19.799
<v Speaker 1>super productive. They asked him to do a lot early

0:43:19.920 --> 0:43:21.960
<v Speaker 1>in the season, I mean for a third round pick,

0:43:22.000 --> 0:43:23.719
<v Speaker 1>and he I think he delivered there. I would go

0:43:23.800 --> 0:43:28.280
<v Speaker 1>with Neville Gallimore just though, because um full season healthy,

0:43:28.400 --> 0:43:30.640
<v Speaker 1>Like into training camp it looked like he was getting

0:43:30.680 --> 0:43:33.160
<v Speaker 1>ready to take a jump and then he gets hurt

0:43:33.239 --> 0:43:35.279
<v Speaker 1>and that's a serious injury he was dealing with too,

0:43:35.719 --> 0:43:38.080
<v Speaker 1>So I think full offseason. I honestly, I think the

0:43:38.120 --> 0:43:40.880
<v Speaker 1>answer is both. But also, you know, Carlos Watkins is

0:43:40.880 --> 0:43:44.080
<v Speaker 1>a guy too that can help some of that rotation

0:43:44.160 --> 0:43:47.680
<v Speaker 1>play a little knows play inside. So yeah, So I

0:43:47.760 --> 0:43:51.759
<v Speaker 1>love Gallimore's energy, man, Yeah, I love his energy. Before guys,

0:43:52.800 --> 0:43:54.520
<v Speaker 1>I think they both had energy, but there was something

0:43:54.560 --> 0:43:57.759
<v Speaker 1>about for me particularly, there's something about Gallimore. He just

0:43:58.000 --> 0:44:01.040
<v Speaker 1>like he loves he loves the prime time like he

0:44:01.160 --> 0:44:02.680
<v Speaker 1>loves the crowd, you know what I'm saying. Like he

0:44:03.040 --> 0:44:04.600
<v Speaker 1>like there's just so many, so many, so many guys

0:44:04.640 --> 0:44:06.520
<v Speaker 1>that are liked that, and I think he loves that man.

0:44:06.560 --> 0:44:07.840
<v Speaker 1>And when I saw him go down to that, I

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<v Speaker 1>was like, God, he was bringing so much energy to

0:44:10.920 --> 0:44:13.160
<v Speaker 1>that group and impact he was getting up in there,

0:44:13.239 --> 0:44:15.200
<v Speaker 1>you know. So looking forward to seeing him back out

0:44:15.200 --> 0:44:17.280
<v Speaker 1>there healthy. What about Tristan him? Do you think Tristan

0:44:17.360 --> 0:44:21.600
<v Speaker 1>Hilly makes this team? You got two young tackles that

0:44:21.680 --> 0:44:26.600
<v Speaker 1>you drafted. Yeah, of water, that's about it. Last year

0:44:26.640 --> 0:44:29.360
<v Speaker 1>of his deal, right, Yeah, I mean this is this

0:44:29.560 --> 0:44:31.920
<v Speaker 1>is it. There's a lot of defensive linement. Oh, it's

0:44:31.920 --> 0:44:34.360
<v Speaker 1>crowd They got crowded quick, Yeah I did. There was

0:44:34.360 --> 0:44:38.200
<v Speaker 1>a tone. It's who steps up. You talk about competition,

0:44:38.280 --> 0:44:40.480
<v Speaker 1>it's there. That's the most competitive pensive line. It's there

0:44:40.520 --> 0:44:42.839
<v Speaker 1>for the most competitive room, hands down, as defensive line.

0:44:42.840 --> 0:44:46.839
<v Speaker 1>That's a good question, is it. Oh yeah, I might

0:44:46.920 --> 0:44:49.040
<v Speaker 1>have to be not receiver in terms of crowd lineman,

0:44:49.239 --> 0:44:53.040
<v Speaker 1>not quarterback, not running back. Yeah, it's deal, it's d line. Yeah,

0:44:53.320 --> 0:44:55.880
<v Speaker 1>I would agree to. All right. Since we brought up

0:44:56.000 --> 0:44:59.160
<v Speaker 1>position flexibility, this is this is kind of fun killing Moore,

0:44:59.200 --> 0:45:02.960
<v Speaker 1>who's a into the show on Twitter. Position flexibility is

0:45:03.000 --> 0:45:07.200
<v Speaker 1>important for more down roster folks. That kelling killing more.

0:45:08.560 --> 0:45:13.360
<v Speaker 1>What's that cable? Not killing? Unfortunately, so outside of the

0:45:13.520 --> 0:45:17.319
<v Speaker 1>mascot position, what would Rowdy play if he was called

0:45:17.360 --> 0:45:21.600
<v Speaker 1>upon on game day kicker, why because you see those boots.

0:45:22.320 --> 0:45:26.640
<v Speaker 1>Come on, man said, a necessity would get a necessity.

0:45:27.160 --> 0:45:29.160
<v Speaker 1>Perfect way to take us to break, Kyle. I think

0:45:29.239 --> 0:45:31.160
<v Speaker 1>I think you could go like down lineman, a little

0:45:31.280 --> 0:45:34.479
<v Speaker 1>edge rusher actions Kidney. He's got those big old hands.

0:45:34.480 --> 0:45:36.680
<v Speaker 1>You could chop and block and go around. You want

0:45:36.680 --> 0:45:38.879
<v Speaker 1>to see him in a three point stance. Heck, yeah, dude,

0:45:39.160 --> 0:45:41.560
<v Speaker 1>I don't know. I'll go with kicker straight kicker with

0:45:41.800 --> 0:45:44.200
<v Speaker 1>or punter one of the two. Okay, yeah, I don't

0:45:44.200 --> 0:45:48.000
<v Speaker 1>even Yeah, there's that much flexibility for punter, that's true.

0:45:48.000 --> 0:45:51.600
<v Speaker 1>I don't think you can get that leg give him kicker. Uh,

0:45:51.880 --> 0:45:54.440
<v Speaker 1>somebody said field goal return man, because he's always back

0:45:54.480 --> 0:45:57.600
<v Speaker 1>there anyway, because he's sitting under the field goal post.

0:45:57.640 --> 0:45:59.879
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<v Speaker 1>have recording a break. We have to We cannot do that.

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<v Speaker 1>That's not gonna happen. No, no, you're not gonna do

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<v Speaker 1>b mcma, Harrison, Isaiah stamp Back, Rob Phillips, some Kyle Yeoman's.

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<v Speaker 1>Somebody brought this question up and it was on one

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<v Speaker 1>NFL dot com throughout the week or something of the sword.

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<v Speaker 1>It was just kind of a fun question. This is

0:49:10.680 --> 0:49:12.920
<v Speaker 1>something we could only talk about, I think in the

0:49:13.000 --> 0:49:19.920
<v Speaker 1>off season for times time consuming standpoints. However, by the way,

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<v Speaker 1>this segment brought to you by blockchain dot com. If

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<v Speaker 1>you can, if you could choose one player in the NFL,

0:49:28.920 --> 0:49:32.320
<v Speaker 1>the entire NFL to build your team around. I was

0:49:32.360 --> 0:49:35.000
<v Speaker 1>so confused on this question. Who would it be? One

0:49:35.080 --> 0:49:39.120
<v Speaker 1>player in the entire NFL? I mean, no constraints or

0:49:39.440 --> 0:49:41.640
<v Speaker 1>you can even think of at this point in their career. Yeah,

0:49:41.680 --> 0:49:43.640
<v Speaker 1>at this point in your career is a salary matter,

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<v Speaker 1>No soundtrack doesn't matter, contract out the windows to fantasy draft,

0:49:48.080 --> 0:49:50.880
<v Speaker 1>just straight up fantasy who's your first pick? And do

0:49:51.000 --> 0:49:53.239
<v Speaker 1>we really want to ask this question? Yeah, it sound

0:49:53.280 --> 0:49:56.680
<v Speaker 1>like a setup, is like a gotcha question. No it's not.

0:49:58.080 --> 0:50:00.680
<v Speaker 1>It's just a fun question ahead, pe Okay, if if

0:50:00.719 --> 0:50:03.600
<v Speaker 1>you guys admit, if you would have said that nobody

0:50:03.640 --> 0:50:05.719
<v Speaker 1>would agree with you to a certain extent. I love

0:50:05.800 --> 0:50:07.640
<v Speaker 1>Dak Prescott as much as anybody else, but he's not

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<v Speaker 1>number one on that list, right, I'll go, yeah, I'll

0:50:09.680 --> 0:50:12.680
<v Speaker 1>go Pat Mahomes, Pat Mahomes. And I think like there's

0:50:12.719 --> 0:50:15.720
<v Speaker 1>some and that's not a knock on Dak Prescott exactly,

0:50:15.880 --> 0:50:20.120
<v Speaker 1>Dak Prescott, guy, I think everybody knows that. Um. Like,

0:50:20.320 --> 0:50:22.759
<v Speaker 1>I think there's some recency bias sometimes in sports in

0:50:22.800 --> 0:50:25.160
<v Speaker 1>the NFL, Like, you know, he didn't make the Super Bowl.

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<v Speaker 1>Now Tyreek Hill leaves and it's kind of like, is

0:50:27.080 --> 0:50:29.920
<v Speaker 1>he are people catching up to him? I still think

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<v Speaker 1>over the next ten years, like he's going to be

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<v Speaker 1>in competing to go to the Super Bowl every single year.

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<v Speaker 1>And part of it is because they have in an

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<v Speaker 1>organization that does a good and a coach does a

0:50:40.600 --> 0:50:42.600
<v Speaker 1>good job of surrounding him with talent. But like he's

0:50:43.719 --> 0:50:45.680
<v Speaker 1>I think he's the best young player in the league.

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<v Speaker 1>Like and to me, it's it's hard to argue that

0:50:49.400 --> 0:50:52.600
<v Speaker 1>although I think that that Bill's chief game, not only

0:50:52.719 --> 0:50:54.480
<v Speaker 1>was it one of the best five games of this

0:50:54.640 --> 0:50:57.520
<v Speaker 1>century that we've watched, I think Josh Allen kind of

0:50:57.560 --> 0:50:59.400
<v Speaker 1>Maybe this is recency biased, but I think he showed

0:50:59.400 --> 0:51:01.680
<v Speaker 1>he's another guy that can can reach that level too.

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<v Speaker 1>And by the way, I think Dad can reach a

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<v Speaker 1>Super Bowl too. Sure, but if I'm having to pick

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<v Speaker 1>one guy, Mahomes based on what he's done so far,

0:51:08.719 --> 0:51:11.279
<v Speaker 1>you know, those are three names that I've I've thrown

0:51:11.360 --> 0:51:14.719
<v Speaker 1>around Mahomes, Josh Allen, and then you can maybe think

0:51:14.800 --> 0:51:17.520
<v Speaker 1>defensive side of the football too, But the quarterback position

0:51:17.640 --> 0:51:20.120
<v Speaker 1>is just so valuable at this point. I'm torn between

0:51:20.160 --> 0:51:25.680
<v Speaker 1>two names. Okay, Justin Herbert, Josh Allen, not Pat not Pat?

0:51:26.200 --> 0:51:28.879
<v Speaker 1>Why those two? I like Justin Herbert too. By the way,

0:51:28.960 --> 0:51:30.880
<v Speaker 1>I like their dog they got they got they have

0:51:30.960 --> 0:51:33.680
<v Speaker 1>that dog mentality. They work, they work hard. That's not

0:51:33.760 --> 0:51:36.040
<v Speaker 1>to say to any of us these other premier quarterbacks don't.

0:51:36.239 --> 0:51:38.680
<v Speaker 1>There's just something in those guys that I feel like

0:51:38.760 --> 0:51:41.239
<v Speaker 1>it's just like just a fighter's mentality. And I think

0:51:41.280 --> 0:51:44.239
<v Speaker 1>that they're both so early on in their careers that

0:51:44.360 --> 0:51:46.759
<v Speaker 1>they have they've been successful to this point, and I

0:51:46.800 --> 0:51:53.000
<v Speaker 1>think their organizations currently are building around them, especially Herbert Jesus,

0:51:53.120 --> 0:51:57.239
<v Speaker 1>they just helped him out defensively. Um, but I like,

0:51:57.400 --> 0:52:00.200
<v Speaker 1>I like both of those both of those quarterbacks. I'm

0:52:00.200 --> 0:52:06.319
<v Speaker 1>so disrespectful. I'll disrespect I mean, is Tostitos Championship plaza again?

0:52:06.440 --> 0:52:09.759
<v Speaker 1>I'm always so those plaza. Come on, guys, you're gonna

0:52:09.800 --> 0:52:15.640
<v Speaker 1>say this in the Star, Yeah, definitely. But this questions set,

0:52:15.880 --> 0:52:17.719
<v Speaker 1>there's the second question on the back end too, that

0:52:17.840 --> 0:52:19.640
<v Speaker 1>we will ask which cowboys should be at the top

0:52:19.680 --> 0:52:22.200
<v Speaker 1>of that list. No, I mean, come on, now, you

0:52:22.239 --> 0:52:24.160
<v Speaker 1>asked me a quad. I'm gonna give you understanding. Sure.

0:52:24.400 --> 0:52:26.799
<v Speaker 1>Aaron Rodgers, I mean, come on, dog. I mean, it's

0:52:26.840 --> 0:52:30.399
<v Speaker 1>a guy that's had an amazing career only two years

0:52:30.480 --> 0:52:33.600
<v Speaker 1>and I believe seventeen going into the seventeen seasons where

0:52:33.640 --> 0:52:38.480
<v Speaker 1>he's at double digit interceptions. There's nobody's played the quarterback

0:52:38.520 --> 0:52:40.960
<v Speaker 1>position like this man. He fits the ball into places

0:52:41.000 --> 0:52:43.600
<v Speaker 1>that I've never seen. He made a throw in a

0:52:43.760 --> 0:52:46.560
<v Speaker 1>T and T in the playoff game. I've never seen

0:52:46.600 --> 0:52:49.560
<v Speaker 1>anybody make a throw like that. Man. He does things

0:52:49.880 --> 0:52:52.960
<v Speaker 1>on the field that is is like, it's I don't

0:52:53.000 --> 0:52:54.840
<v Speaker 1>know if we'll ever see a guy that has that

0:52:55.040 --> 0:52:57.120
<v Speaker 1>kind of placement in touch on his ball the way

0:52:57.160 --> 0:52:59.520
<v Speaker 1>that Aaron Rodgers does. He is that dude. Yeah. The

0:52:59.600 --> 0:53:02.400
<v Speaker 1>only thing knocking. I guess his stock in this conversation

0:53:02.440 --> 0:53:05.000
<v Speaker 1>would be the age, but he still hasn't necessarily shown

0:53:05.160 --> 0:53:08.040
<v Speaker 1>a slow inkling of slow. He's a back to back

0:53:08.200 --> 0:53:11.680
<v Speaker 1>MVP Award winner for a reason, so I definitely can

0:53:11.760 --> 0:53:14.239
<v Speaker 1>see that. I think I would choose one of the

0:53:14.320 --> 0:53:18.280
<v Speaker 1>three quarterbacks that you guys kind of mentioned, between Mahomes, Alan,

0:53:18.960 --> 0:53:23.040
<v Speaker 1>and Herbert. I think I lean Mahomes just because of

0:53:23.120 --> 0:53:28.440
<v Speaker 1>what he can do from a standpoint of freelancing and

0:53:29.200 --> 0:53:32.200
<v Speaker 1>kind of making plays on the run. Josh Allen can

0:53:32.239 --> 0:53:34.640
<v Speaker 1>do something very similar, but I think Mahomes has a

0:53:34.719 --> 0:53:37.839
<v Speaker 1>better arm for doing that while also moving and as

0:53:37.920 --> 0:53:39.920
<v Speaker 1>much as he's already done, he's like twenty five. Yeah,

0:53:39.960 --> 0:53:42.840
<v Speaker 1>he's not that old, which is crazy. Experience, youth, and

0:53:43.160 --> 0:53:46.960
<v Speaker 1>talent all put together. That's hard to find, and those

0:53:47.120 --> 0:53:48.960
<v Speaker 1>three guys all have it. But I think Mahomes is

0:53:49.000 --> 0:53:51.800
<v Speaker 1>just still a half a step up on Alan, and

0:53:51.880 --> 0:53:54.360
<v Speaker 1>then I think Alan's a full step up on Herbert.

0:53:54.400 --> 0:53:55.960
<v Speaker 1>That's how I would rank it back and forth. But

0:53:56.440 --> 0:53:59.880
<v Speaker 1>as I promised, which Dallas Cowboy would be highest on

0:54:00.040 --> 0:54:03.920
<v Speaker 1>that list doesn't have to be the It doesn't have

0:54:04.000 --> 0:54:05.680
<v Speaker 1>to be on the offensive side of the football, if,

0:54:05.800 --> 0:54:08.080
<v Speaker 1>if anything, we could split at offense and defense. If

0:54:08.120 --> 0:54:11.879
<v Speaker 1>we want, um, which which quarter or excuse me, which

0:54:12.320 --> 0:54:15.520
<v Speaker 1>player for the Cowboys would be highest on that list altogether?

0:54:16.440 --> 0:54:19.279
<v Speaker 1>Mere you go, you guys would let him go first.

0:54:19.920 --> 0:54:23.520
<v Speaker 1>I know where you're going da all day or all

0:54:23.640 --> 0:54:25.840
<v Speaker 1>day or all day. If we're gonna go on the

0:54:25.920 --> 0:54:27.399
<v Speaker 1>other side of the ball, is gonna be who getting

0:54:27.440 --> 0:54:29.719
<v Speaker 1>on the bus with Michael? Michael baby, right? I mean

0:54:29.920 --> 0:54:32.120
<v Speaker 1>that's just it. But I think, look, I even thought

0:54:32.120 --> 0:54:33.600
<v Speaker 1>that last segment. I just feel I don't need a

0:54:33.640 --> 0:54:36.000
<v Speaker 1>shower right now because I didn't say Dak and I

0:54:36.080 --> 0:54:39.239
<v Speaker 1>said Aaron Rodgers because of the numbers. I mean, you

0:54:39.280 --> 0:54:41.280
<v Speaker 1>look at the other players that you're talking about. Herbert,

0:54:41.440 --> 0:54:43.759
<v Speaker 1>he's only done it for but two years in the

0:54:43.880 --> 0:54:46.839
<v Speaker 1>league and had all had all the yards in the world,

0:54:46.880 --> 0:54:48.960
<v Speaker 1>but still bounced out of the player. Let mean, come on,

0:54:49.080 --> 0:54:51.120
<v Speaker 1>I mean, the same thing that you knocked Dak for,

0:54:51.239 --> 0:54:52.920
<v Speaker 1>you don't knock these other guys for. And I just

0:54:53.000 --> 0:54:55.960
<v Speaker 1>feel like that's the people are contradicting themselves right there.

0:54:56.000 --> 0:54:59.080
<v Speaker 1>But I think that Daks as far as the numbers,

0:54:59.120 --> 0:55:01.000
<v Speaker 1>as far as the PF when you want to use

0:55:01.080 --> 0:55:07.200
<v Speaker 1>it to make your point. Qbr yards, touchdowns, double digits, interceptions.

0:55:07.239 --> 0:55:10.960
<v Speaker 1>I believe three years so far in his career, this

0:55:11.239 --> 0:55:13.640
<v Speaker 1>this guy is on a trajectory that's going this way.

0:55:13.760 --> 0:55:17.120
<v Speaker 1>And so I just feel like DA is the obvious answer.

0:55:18.400 --> 0:55:22.279
<v Speaker 1>I'm going rain Dakota too, Okay, most important position, And

0:55:22.680 --> 0:55:24.799
<v Speaker 1>I think, as I said earlier, like I don't think

0:55:24.840 --> 0:55:26.640
<v Speaker 1>he's far off from being where he needs to go.

0:55:26.760 --> 0:55:28.200
<v Speaker 1>I really don't. Some of a lot of it has

0:55:28.239 --> 0:55:31.160
<v Speaker 1>to do with what's who's around him. Um, I just

0:55:31.400 --> 0:55:33.239
<v Speaker 1>I mean, some of it's just being around him and

0:55:33.280 --> 0:55:34.839
<v Speaker 1>some of it. A lot of it's what you hear

0:55:35.400 --> 0:55:37.799
<v Speaker 1>from people about him, Like he's the type of guy,

0:55:38.000 --> 0:55:41.080
<v Speaker 1>type of person, type of leader. You just I don't

0:55:41.160 --> 0:55:43.880
<v Speaker 1>see him not succeeding at the highest level at some

0:55:44.040 --> 0:55:47.640
<v Speaker 1>point in his career. People people don't buy it right now.

0:55:47.760 --> 0:55:49.680
<v Speaker 1>There's a lot of people skeptical right now. Yeah. I

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<v Speaker 1>just think he's only twenty eight. Where there's time, there's

0:55:53.239 --> 0:55:54.759
<v Speaker 1>time for him, and I think he's gonna get to

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<v Speaker 1>that level. I'm going with the Bazuka, And I know

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<v Speaker 1>that's weird because he's a defensive player, but I like

0:56:01.920 --> 0:56:05.560
<v Speaker 1>his approach. I like his mentality. I like the fact

0:56:05.640 --> 0:56:10.359
<v Speaker 1>that he doesn't rely on somebody else to go out

0:56:10.400 --> 0:56:14.040
<v Speaker 1>there and have an impact on the game. He literally

0:56:14.200 --> 0:56:17.920
<v Speaker 1>says it's on me. And I like that about him

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<v Speaker 1>as a player. I like that about any player who

0:56:19.840 --> 0:56:22.799
<v Speaker 1>has that mindset because it's easy to surround those individuals

0:56:23.200 --> 0:56:26.000
<v Speaker 1>with people who just want to just feel that some

0:56:26.120 --> 0:56:27.719
<v Speaker 1>of that energy and who just want to be a

0:56:27.840 --> 0:56:29.840
<v Speaker 1>part of that. How many people do we see on

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<v Speaker 1>the defense side of the ball this past year just

0:56:31.440 --> 0:56:33.000
<v Speaker 1>want to be a part of that. I don't want

0:56:33.080 --> 0:56:35.000
<v Speaker 1>just Mic out there making plays by him, So shoot,

0:56:35.040 --> 0:56:36.680
<v Speaker 1>let me get in on this right. I ain't made

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<v Speaker 1>play since birth, But guess what, I'm go out there

0:56:38.719 --> 0:56:40.200
<v Speaker 1>and do it now because he's out there doing it.

0:56:40.840 --> 0:56:42.880
<v Speaker 1>You want that, and I think that that's somebody that

0:56:42.960 --> 0:56:45.040
<v Speaker 1>you want, that you want to build around. And obviously

0:56:45.080 --> 0:56:47.319
<v Speaker 1>I think that they're they're starting to do so. Yeah,

0:56:47.440 --> 0:56:49.920
<v Speaker 1>And I mean it was a complete overhaul the defensive

0:56:49.960 --> 0:56:51.480
<v Speaker 1>side of the football, and it started with one guy

0:56:51.600 --> 0:56:55.719
<v Speaker 1>that was number eleven on that side. Now, if Dak

0:56:55.760 --> 0:56:59.520
<v Speaker 1>Prescott prior to the injury, you mentioned trajectory, heck, the

0:56:59.680 --> 0:57:03.799
<v Speaker 1>true objectory, the confidence, the leadership abilities, all those things

0:57:03.880 --> 0:57:06.680
<v Speaker 1>were there prior to the injury. You could argue that

0:57:06.760 --> 0:57:11.440
<v Speaker 1>trajectory has kind of been a stagnant since then. Do

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<v Speaker 1>you think prior to that he would be on that

0:57:13.600 --> 0:57:16.320
<v Speaker 1>that initial list of guys up in that conversation with

0:57:16.400 --> 0:57:18.920
<v Speaker 1>the Allens and the Mahomes and stuff like that, I

0:57:19.000 --> 0:57:22.200
<v Speaker 1>think everybody is putting two on the team with Josh Allen.

0:57:22.240 --> 0:57:24.800
<v Speaker 1>I think his decision making needs to be called into

0:57:24.920 --> 0:57:27.120
<v Speaker 1>play as well. He didn't do all the great things,

0:57:27.160 --> 0:57:29.440
<v Speaker 1>and it's because he's way up in Buffalo that he

0:57:29.520 --> 0:57:32.520
<v Speaker 1>didn't get the scrutiny in the market because he didn't

0:57:32.520 --> 0:57:34.640
<v Speaker 1>do a good job with all he had thrown Dak

0:57:34.680 --> 0:57:37.480
<v Speaker 1>on touchdowns and interceptions as well. I mean, look Dak

0:57:37.600 --> 0:57:40.680
<v Speaker 1>right now, if you take away the New York and

0:57:40.800 --> 0:57:43.960
<v Speaker 1>it's his foot turn first the way, okay, and he's

0:57:44.000 --> 0:57:46.040
<v Speaker 1>sitting there trying to figure out what is his career

0:57:46.080 --> 0:57:47.960
<v Speaker 1>going to be like? After that, he came back and

0:57:48.080 --> 0:57:50.360
<v Speaker 1>he balled. We were looking at pictures of him walking

0:57:50.440 --> 0:57:53.400
<v Speaker 1>into Luke Casey's and his freaking ankle was the size

0:57:53.440 --> 0:57:55.479
<v Speaker 1>of a great fruit. But he went out there and balled.

0:57:55.520 --> 0:57:57.440
<v Speaker 1>And I take to one play, and that's the one

0:57:57.520 --> 0:58:00.440
<v Speaker 1>against New England to walk off touchdown the Sea lamb.

0:58:00.680 --> 0:58:02.520
<v Speaker 1>To me, that was the foreshadow for Dak of the

0:58:02.600 --> 0:58:05.200
<v Speaker 1>whole twenty twenty one season because he that was his

0:58:05.360 --> 0:58:08.200
<v Speaker 1>highest high and his lowest low because he got injured

0:58:08.240 --> 0:58:10.439
<v Speaker 1>on the same freaking play and it took the whole

0:58:10.560 --> 0:58:13.280
<v Speaker 1>offense with him after that, right, he was firmly in

0:58:13.320 --> 0:58:16.560
<v Speaker 1>the MVP conversation at that moment. Think about that moment,

0:58:16.640 --> 0:58:19.760
<v Speaker 1>Think about that one play and what that meant. Because

0:58:19.800 --> 0:58:22.080
<v Speaker 1>if you walk off from that situation healthy and you

0:58:22.200 --> 0:58:25.240
<v Speaker 1>go to through the bye or beat Minnesota and going

0:58:25.280 --> 0:58:28.320
<v Speaker 1>to the bye, doc, you're cooking with house. You got

0:58:28.400 --> 0:58:31.360
<v Speaker 1>house money right now, right, And so everybody's looking at

0:58:31.440 --> 0:58:33.280
<v Speaker 1>Dak in the way that he finished the season and

0:58:34.240 --> 0:58:36.320
<v Speaker 1>would not give any credits to what we talked about

0:58:36.360 --> 0:58:38.960
<v Speaker 1>with fielding, the offensive line, the penalties, the kicking game,

0:58:39.080 --> 0:58:40.959
<v Speaker 1>all of that and putting it on Dak and said,

0:58:41.000 --> 0:58:43.120
<v Speaker 1>oh man, he's not in that Josh Allen. But you

0:58:43.160 --> 0:58:46.000
<v Speaker 1>ain't watching Josh Allen then, you know. But nobody said

0:58:46.080 --> 0:58:48.880
<v Speaker 1>Joe Burrow, And you know, I would think as far

0:58:48.920 --> 0:58:50.640
<v Speaker 1>as the other guys, I mean, this is the guy

0:58:50.680 --> 0:58:52.280
<v Speaker 1>you want to want to start talking about before you

0:58:52.320 --> 0:58:56.120
<v Speaker 1>even get to a Herbert or Josh Allen. In my opinion, Yeah, yeah,

0:58:56.200 --> 0:58:58.640
<v Speaker 1>That's why I said recency bias with Josh Allen because

0:58:58.640 --> 0:59:00.680
<v Speaker 1>I think the last image was like, oh man, he

0:59:00.760 --> 0:59:03.560
<v Speaker 1>took the Chiefs to the brain, He's maybe the guy.

0:59:04.560 --> 0:59:07.959
<v Speaker 1>Then Joe Burrow beat the Chiefs. I got you who's

0:59:07.960 --> 0:59:12.400
<v Speaker 1>your pick? Who you got? Oh? I picked Mahomesh Cowboys. Yeah, Dak.

0:59:12.520 --> 0:59:15.440
<v Speaker 1>I would still would pick Dak quarterback second on that

0:59:15.520 --> 0:59:17.800
<v Speaker 1>list with me, Micah. So I'm right there with you

0:59:17.880 --> 0:59:20.320
<v Speaker 1>guys in terms of the reasoning altogether. But I think

0:59:20.440 --> 0:59:23.000
<v Speaker 1>Dak is still the guy here. If you had to

0:59:23.040 --> 0:59:26.200
<v Speaker 1>pick one guy, one Jersey that's going to be the

0:59:26.280 --> 0:59:30.320
<v Speaker 1>biggest impact man on how this organization will either succeed

0:59:30.800 --> 0:59:32.960
<v Speaker 1>or how it would have fail. It is firmly on

0:59:33.000 --> 0:59:36.439
<v Speaker 1>the shoulders of Dak Prescott, Right, That's exactly the point.

0:59:36.560 --> 0:59:39.160
<v Speaker 1>So I think I think he's in that conversation he

0:59:39.200 --> 0:59:41.080
<v Speaker 1>would be the guy would want to build around, because

0:59:41.120 --> 0:59:43.640
<v Speaker 1>that's exactly who you have built around. And there's that's

0:59:43.680 --> 0:59:45.400
<v Speaker 1>where you got to get to some of it too.

0:59:45.440 --> 0:59:49.080
<v Speaker 1>For me is I got to spend like forty five

0:59:49.160 --> 0:59:51.120
<v Speaker 1>minutes with him for something else we're doing last week

0:59:51.160 --> 0:59:53.640
<v Speaker 1>while I wasn't on the show. Sure, and it's just

0:59:53.880 --> 0:59:57.000
<v Speaker 1>hard to like just being around him. The type of

0:59:57.040 --> 0:59:59.480
<v Speaker 1>guy is the type of leadery. It's just it's hard

0:59:59.720 --> 1:00:03.920
<v Speaker 1>not to think there's something big that's he's gonna do

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<v Speaker 1>at some point. I just that's just how I feel

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<v Speaker 1>about it. But but it's hard enough to put Micael

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<v Speaker 1>there because Mikea just had a season that really we

1:00:12.400 --> 1:00:15.479
<v Speaker 1>almost haven't seen in the NFL for a rookie defensive player,

1:00:15.520 --> 1:00:17.560
<v Speaker 1>and it's like, how good can this guy be? So

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know, you flip a coin, I guess it's

1:00:19.600 --> 1:00:21.480
<v Speaker 1>a lot of pressure on Mica to perform at a

1:00:21.560 --> 1:00:23.800
<v Speaker 1>higher level this year. Absolutely, I think he's got to

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<v Speaker 1>take the next step that you would anticipate for a

1:00:26.040 --> 1:00:27.840
<v Speaker 1>pressure on him. I think they aintbody on his team.

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<v Speaker 1>That's a conversation we might have in a future episode

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<v Speaker 1>because that's a pretty interesting statement. But that's gonna do

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<v Speaker 1>it for us. We are out of time here on

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<v Speaker 1>a Talking Cowboys Tuesday. Once again, Ota is going on

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<v Speaker 1>all week long. We will break it down for you.

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<v Speaker 1>We'll get a chance to watch him practices between now

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<v Speaker 1>and next Tuesday for Chris Being, Ron Phillips, Isaiah Standback,

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<v Speaker 1>heck My Harrison, I'm Kyle Yeoman's thanks for joining us.

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