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Speaker 1: Scarable Advice Shooter. Hello, welcome. I'm your host, Rob Shooter.

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Speaker 1: It is Tuesday, unusual. Normally Miss D joins us on

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Speaker 1: a Tuesday, but we switched I ran. We had the

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Speaker 1: Lovely mis D yesterday, so today we get the justice

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Speaker 1: Lovely Garrett Voguel. Hey Garrett, are you there? Good morning,

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Speaker 1: Rob Shooter. Now let's get one thing straight. Are you

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Speaker 1: going to call me miss D at any point today?

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Speaker 1: We switched days last week too because of my trip

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Speaker 1: to London. It sort of messed me up a little bit.

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Speaker 1: So I remember you on Donnie's Day, and I guess

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Speaker 1: you came known as Danny. I got, I got Instagram

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Speaker 1: messages Hello Donny, So I thank you for that, Rob Shooter.

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Speaker 1: You're both lovely guys. Although everybody wants to be seen

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Speaker 1: and recognized, its awful when people mess up your name.

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Speaker 1: I often, I often. It's awful, but it's a nasty

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Speaker 1: little habit. Since I was a child, I'm terrible with names.

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Speaker 1: I'm good with me. I know every detail about you,

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Speaker 1: but your name is one that always sort of skips

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Speaker 1: me faces. Yes, names horrible. I can never work at Starbucks.

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Speaker 1: And we had an early edition of this podcast it

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Speaker 1: was a radio show for a year on Derek and

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Speaker 1: Remains Network, and I had desks coming. It was a

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Speaker 1: whole hour rather than twenty minutes. I love that show.

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Speaker 1: I miss it, but the way podcasts were, twenty minutes

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Speaker 1: are better than an hour. And so I don't have

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Speaker 1: guests anymore. But when I had guests come into the

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Speaker 1: studio on the old show, Garrett, I made them wear

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Speaker 1: a name tag. So smart though it's like, oh, for

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Speaker 1: security purposes, just they need to know, you know. So

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Speaker 1: I like the Housewives for their like Countess Luan came

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Speaker 1: and I put Lulu and just stuck in on it.

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Speaker 1: But put this on and I will want to rob.

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Speaker 1: So we all felt like we were all included. But yeah,

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Speaker 1: I made so smart because it's like, you know what,

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Speaker 1: I need to wear one too. Look, I'm just like you, like, hey,

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Speaker 1: let's jump in show what time was it? My friends

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Speaker 1: and has introduced her child Emmy using a gender neutral

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Speaker 1: prograun So, Jennifer introduced her fourteen year old child using

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Speaker 1: a gender neutral program during a performance at Dodger Stadium.

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Speaker 1: Emmy's fourteen years old, and Emmy is already playing Dodger Stadium.

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Speaker 1: That's the part of the story that I'm more interested in,

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Speaker 1: but we will give you the rest of the story.

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Speaker 1: So Emmy performed a duet with Mommy Jennifer Lopez. Lopez

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Speaker 1: joked the following before Emmy came out on stage. Lopez

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Speaker 1: said that this person was very, very busy and very

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Speaker 1: expensive to book, but they were worth it because they

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Speaker 1: are Jennifer's favorite duet partner of all time. Outworked Emmy,

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Speaker 1: the place went. That's the last and they performed together

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Speaker 1: in a big stadium. Was that the super Bowl? Remember

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Speaker 1: that the super Bowl? I mean, come on, super Bowl Stadium.

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Speaker 1: Emmy's been set up for a huge career. Oh and

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Speaker 1: you know it's funny. He probably did negotiate with Mom saying,

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Speaker 1: you know, if you really want me to do this,

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Speaker 1: I need X, Y and Z, meaning like maybe I

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Speaker 1: need a ride to the mall, a few extra dollars

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Speaker 1: to go buy like So she negotiated very well with mom.

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Speaker 1: Like that. That is that you don't need an agent

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Speaker 1: when you're dealing with your mom. You just need to

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Speaker 1: know what you want from your mom. That's right. You

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Speaker 1: get yourself a good, good deal for this one. And

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Speaker 1: as far as gender neutral pronouns. Let's talk about them

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Speaker 1: for a minute. I have trouble getting my head around this.

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Speaker 1: I totally believe in this. I think words are very,

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Speaker 1: very important. But for me, and I'm being really honest here,

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Speaker 1: and I hate admitting this, I have to think for

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Speaker 1: I've just done it all my life, and I definitely

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Speaker 1: you're learning to It's a lot of practice, and I

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Speaker 1: think I think people that are living with different pronouns

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Speaker 1: have said that they understand that it's hard to start

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Speaker 1: guess for a mother too. That's a transition to with

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Speaker 1: your daughter, Garrett, if your daughter wanted to be referred

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Speaker 1: by saying they, it kind of just includes they is

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Speaker 1: a word that includes everything of the population. Not when

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Speaker 1: common mistakes people making. You always know if they're new

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Speaker 1: at TV, if they say this, you don't look at

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Speaker 1: into a camera or into even like speaking to a microphone,

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Speaker 1: they say hi, guys. My media trainer said me, said

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Speaker 1: to me, if you say that, you alienate fifty percent

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Speaker 1: say all hello. We never say hi guys. Words are important.

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Speaker 1: Think about them today and even during this segment, you

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Speaker 1: are in the right place, Jayla, You're going to really

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Speaker 1: make a huge difference doing this. What do you think

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Speaker 1: about the fact, too, that Jennifer has not spoken about this.

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Speaker 1: Jennifer has just started using gender neutral pronouns, but she's

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Speaker 1: not actually done in the interview or spoke out. I

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Speaker 1: If you're listening, hellollollo, Hey, let's go to our pole

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Speaker 1: of the day. Jennifer Lopez introduced her child Emmy by

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Speaker 1: using a gender neutral pronoun. Are you surprised? Are you surprised? Hey?

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Speaker 1: Go verte on at a page at Naughty Nice Rob

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Speaker 1: morrow to hear your results. Hey, what are you working on? Gara? Well,

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Speaker 1: so we're talking about podcasts. Earlier in the show. At

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Speaker 1: the beginning of the show, we might have some new competition,

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Speaker 1: Rob Shooter, the o G Wendy Williams. So let's exactly

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Speaker 1: let's talk about that in a second. So, as you know,

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Speaker 1: last week her final show, it was an homage to

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Speaker 1: Wendy minus Wendy, which was just it was so weird

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Speaker 1: she doesn't she doesn't exist, but she's still alive. She's well,

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Speaker 1: she's gonna come back better than ever. Not to see

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Speaker 1: Williams sat with the producers who owned the show and said,

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Speaker 1: a different story for others to debate personally. Um, but

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Speaker 1: she she says she told Billy Bush. Wendy Williams told

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Speaker 1: Billy Bush that she plans to release a pod care

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Speaker 1: So it's gonna be released on iTunes and probably wherever

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Speaker 1: you get your podcast. Welcome, Welcome, hey, I welcome Wendy

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Speaker 1: into the podcast world. Remember before being a TV starf

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Speaker 1: for a decade, Wendy was a brilliant radio personality. And

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Speaker 1: I think for hours Wendy would do monologues. And that's

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Speaker 1: because she'd been trained for years to do it on radio.

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Speaker 1: other people's podcasts. Well yeah, and and rightfully so, you know,

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Speaker 1: But you know, you realize that it's it's a part

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Speaker 1: It's like on demand. I can listen to my friends,

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Speaker 1: my head, I'm friends with these People's the Queen of England. Yes,

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Speaker 1: just like how they're just getting rid of everything, you

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Speaker 1: so difficult because Wendy is still here. It's not like

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Speaker 1: It was so weird. And it was actually Vanessa Williams,

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Speaker 1: she's not dead, She's still here. We still love you, Wendy.

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