1 00:00:00,800 --> 00:00:05,120 Speaker 1: The most valuable commodity I know of is information. Wouldn't 2 00:00:05,120 --> 00:00:07,920 Speaker 1: you agree? I've got five dollars? 3 00:00:07,960 --> 00:00:10,920 Speaker 2: This is a raging a level they traveled. 4 00:00:14,600 --> 00:00:18,440 Speaker 3: You're saying that humans need fantasy to make life bearable. 5 00:00:19,200 --> 00:00:30,040 Speaker 2: Humans need fantasy to be human. My goodness, mispeak the best, relentless, 6 00:00:30,160 --> 00:00:31,400 Speaker 2: refusing to give up. 7 00:00:31,920 --> 00:00:35,320 Speaker 4: All right, hit that horn, very bless. 8 00:00:36,600 --> 00:00:37,400 Speaker 2: What's it? Everybody? 9 00:00:37,440 --> 00:00:39,880 Speaker 1: Welcome to the Fantasy Flex podcast from the Action Network 10 00:00:39,880 --> 00:00:40,640 Speaker 1: in Fantasy Ads. 11 00:00:40,680 --> 00:00:42,120 Speaker 2: I'm your host, Chris Raven. 12 00:00:42,520 --> 00:00:46,080 Speaker 1: This is NFL Week sixteen, your player projections episode. And 13 00:00:46,120 --> 00:00:48,520 Speaker 1: who better to talk about player projections is the most 14 00:00:48,520 --> 00:00:51,400 Speaker 1: accurate ranker in the game, the odds maker. Sean Kerner, Sean, 15 00:00:51,479 --> 00:00:52,839 Speaker 1: how's it going? Happy Week sixteen? 16 00:00:53,400 --> 00:00:56,880 Speaker 4: Happy Week sixteen? Not sure how I did on Fantasy Pros. 17 00:00:56,920 --> 00:00:59,680 Speaker 4: I need to stop ranking Pat firemuth so damn low. 18 00:00:59,760 --> 00:01:02,800 Speaker 4: I was like minus ninety and this guy continues to feast, 19 00:01:02,840 --> 00:01:04,959 Speaker 4: so to town. 20 00:01:04,760 --> 00:01:06,200 Speaker 5: I'm gonna try to correct that this week. 21 00:01:06,240 --> 00:01:08,920 Speaker 4: There's always one player every year that's like I just 22 00:01:09,520 --> 00:01:12,640 Speaker 4: constantly have too low and I just need to fix 23 00:01:12,680 --> 00:01:13,199 Speaker 4: that this week. 24 00:01:13,400 --> 00:01:15,839 Speaker 5: So that's that's Patfiremooth for me this year. 25 00:01:16,760 --> 00:01:19,479 Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, I think Uh, I think Pat Friarmouth 26 00:01:19,600 --> 00:01:21,920 Speaker 1: is I mean, it's really it's all gonna depend on 27 00:01:21,920 --> 00:01:25,520 Speaker 1: on uh George Pickens. Really I think that, you know, 28 00:01:25,800 --> 00:01:29,480 Speaker 1: yay kind of becomes that top touchdown bet for the 29 00:01:29,560 --> 00:01:33,440 Speaker 1: Steelers if Pickens isn't in the lineup. But we will 30 00:01:34,200 --> 00:01:36,720 Speaker 1: jump into every position as we always do on this 31 00:01:36,800 --> 00:01:38,880 Speaker 1: pod Top five. We'll go, guys, we're high and low 32 00:01:38,920 --> 00:01:42,160 Speaker 1: on uh, throw out some props. So let's get right 33 00:01:42,200 --> 00:01:45,520 Speaker 1: into a quarterback. Just a quick reminder. All of our 34 00:01:45,520 --> 00:01:48,680 Speaker 1: fantasy football content available on fantasy labs dot com if 35 00:01:48,720 --> 00:01:52,320 Speaker 1: I don't our rankings, projections and more at fantasy labs 36 00:01:52,480 --> 00:01:53,280 Speaker 1: dot com. 37 00:01:53,560 --> 00:01:56,200 Speaker 2: Week sixteen Sun Quarterback Top five. 38 00:01:56,240 --> 00:02:02,200 Speaker 4: We got Josh Allen, mass of massive completely like five 39 00:02:02,240 --> 00:02:07,440 Speaker 4: point gap, Jalen Hurts, Lamar Jackson, Joe Burrow, and Kyler Murray. 40 00:02:09,080 --> 00:02:12,919 Speaker 1: I got Josh Allen, Lamar Jackson, Joe Burrow, Jalen Hurts, 41 00:02:12,919 --> 00:02:13,919 Speaker 1: and Baker Mayfield. 42 00:02:14,520 --> 00:02:20,600 Speaker 5: Oh nice, he's my number. Ye who high? 43 00:02:21,960 --> 00:02:25,800 Speaker 4: I'm high on Dorian Thompson Robinson this week, the new 44 00:02:26,160 --> 00:02:29,680 Speaker 4: starter for the Browns. You know he gets to start 45 00:02:29,720 --> 00:02:33,040 Speaker 4: over Jamis Winston this week, and uh, you know he 46 00:02:33,120 --> 00:02:36,040 Speaker 4: has some rushing upside, which is obviously a boost in fantasy. 47 00:02:36,080 --> 00:02:39,800 Speaker 4: But he has a solid mix of pass catchers, especially 48 00:02:39,840 --> 00:02:42,799 Speaker 4: if they get back Cedric Tillman and David and Joku 49 00:02:42,880 --> 00:02:45,519 Speaker 4: this week, which would only you know, help boost his 50 00:02:45,639 --> 00:02:48,200 Speaker 4: passing upside. But I think this is a great spot 51 00:02:48,440 --> 00:02:51,480 Speaker 4: against uh, you know Bengals defense that has been you know, 52 00:02:51,520 --> 00:02:53,760 Speaker 4: a disaster this season, So this is a great matchup 53 00:02:53,800 --> 00:02:56,480 Speaker 4: for him. Should be a pass heavy game scrip. I expect, 54 00:02:56,520 --> 00:02:59,239 Speaker 4: you know, the Bengals to put up points here, so 55 00:02:59,520 --> 00:03:02,520 Speaker 4: you know, he one's up the week as my QB eighteen. 56 00:03:02,680 --> 00:03:06,160 Speaker 4: So if you're in a two QB super flex format, uh, 57 00:03:06,160 --> 00:03:08,720 Speaker 4: and you were relying on Jameis Winston or somebody, I 58 00:03:08,720 --> 00:03:11,040 Speaker 4: think you could do worse than DTR. I think he 59 00:03:11,080 --> 00:03:14,520 Speaker 4: has a sneaky floor ceiling COMBA this week against the Bengals. 60 00:03:15,160 --> 00:03:17,120 Speaker 2: What do you think his benching risk is, because I 61 00:03:17,160 --> 00:03:20,280 Speaker 2: know i've we've we've seen him get benched. Yeah, like 62 00:03:20,440 --> 00:03:22,160 Speaker 2: what half of the starts? I think? 63 00:03:22,440 --> 00:03:26,120 Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, I mean I think in this case, we'll 64 00:03:26,160 --> 00:03:28,880 Speaker 4: just leave him out there for the Wolves. But yeah, 65 00:03:28,919 --> 00:03:30,320 Speaker 4: that's that's a fair point. 66 00:03:30,720 --> 00:03:31,160 Speaker 2: I listened. 67 00:03:31,240 --> 00:03:32,920 Speaker 1: I thought they were just gonna stick with Jamis. So 68 00:03:32,960 --> 00:03:34,839 Speaker 1: the fact that they even bench Jamis that it does 69 00:03:34,880 --> 00:03:37,560 Speaker 1: worry me, Like, I like, what, like. 70 00:03:37,680 --> 00:03:40,040 Speaker 2: Did you really like did you you didn't know Jamis 71 00:03:40,040 --> 00:03:43,720 Speaker 2: throw's picks, Like did you really need to bent like that? 72 00:03:43,880 --> 00:03:44,160 Speaker 5: Just now? 73 00:03:44,200 --> 00:03:48,440 Speaker 2: I'm like, uh, you know, just see what they happen. 74 00:03:48,480 --> 00:03:50,920 Speaker 4: And I think there's been some times he's looked solid, 75 00:03:51,000 --> 00:03:54,360 Speaker 4: like he's been good. Uh in preseason? Uh, what do 76 00:03:54,440 --> 00:03:59,160 Speaker 4: they got to lose? So they're in they're having Jamis so. Yeah, again, 77 00:03:59,200 --> 00:04:02,840 Speaker 4: would you would I play him over like Aaron Rodgers? 78 00:04:03,240 --> 00:04:07,960 Speaker 4: Probably not, but in like DFS, maybe some props, maybe 79 00:04:08,120 --> 00:04:10,520 Speaker 4: we'll have some things. I just think he's sneaky, you know, 80 00:04:11,160 --> 00:04:14,680 Speaker 4: a little. I'm plus twenty four East jar against him. Obviously, 81 00:04:14,960 --> 00:04:16,559 Speaker 4: you know it's still early. 82 00:04:18,440 --> 00:04:19,280 Speaker 5: I rarely use. 83 00:04:19,240 --> 00:04:22,440 Speaker 4: Tuesday morning at ESRR yeah to dictate my plays anymore. 84 00:04:22,480 --> 00:04:24,719 Speaker 4: But again, he's one of those guys where I think 85 00:04:24,760 --> 00:04:26,560 Speaker 4: people will be sleeping on one way or the other. 86 00:04:26,800 --> 00:04:30,239 Speaker 4: But I take your point. He obviously has some benching 87 00:04:30,400 --> 00:04:31,480 Speaker 4: risks this week as well. 88 00:04:32,760 --> 00:04:35,840 Speaker 1: The guy I'm high on is Baker Mayfield here against 89 00:04:35,839 --> 00:04:36,800 Speaker 1: the Cowboys. 90 00:04:37,080 --> 00:04:39,640 Speaker 2: I think he's a top five quarterback. You know, if 91 00:04:39,640 --> 00:04:40,080 Speaker 2: you look. 92 00:04:39,960 --> 00:04:44,040 Speaker 1: At his games indoors this season, you know, he's averaging 93 00:04:45,000 --> 00:04:47,359 Speaker 1: over nine yards in attempt, you know, and that's this 94 00:04:47,440 --> 00:04:50,320 Speaker 1: is another indoor game high total against the Cowboys, and 95 00:04:50,360 --> 00:04:52,840 Speaker 1: their offense has been decent too, so it shouldn't be 96 00:04:52,880 --> 00:04:54,240 Speaker 1: a straight blowout or anything like that. 97 00:04:54,320 --> 00:04:57,560 Speaker 2: And he's scrambling really well, has been all year. 98 00:04:57,560 --> 00:04:59,400 Speaker 1: It's kind of what I've noticed the most about Baker 99 00:04:59,600 --> 00:05:03,760 Speaker 1: that's kind of improving his just is passing and his 100 00:05:03,920 --> 00:05:06,360 Speaker 1: overall fantasy numbers is that he's able to scramble out 101 00:05:06,400 --> 00:05:08,800 Speaker 1: of a lot of pressure and make plays down the 102 00:05:08,800 --> 00:05:11,039 Speaker 1: field or run. So he had another you know, he 103 00:05:11,080 --> 00:05:13,960 Speaker 1: carried twice last week, but it was for twenty five yards. 104 00:05:14,200 --> 00:05:16,320 Speaker 1: Had a two hundred and eighty eight yard game through 105 00:05:16,360 --> 00:05:18,680 Speaker 1: the air, four touchdowns, one pick against a very good 106 00:05:19,080 --> 00:05:22,279 Speaker 1: Chargers defense. He's now averaged nine point eight or more 107 00:05:22,720 --> 00:05:25,119 Speaker 1: yards per pass attempt in three of the past four weeks, 108 00:05:25,160 --> 00:05:28,120 Speaker 1: including ten yards in attempt each of the last two. 109 00:05:28,279 --> 00:05:30,640 Speaker 2: So he's starting to heat up again. And we saw 110 00:05:30,680 --> 00:05:31,760 Speaker 2: this last year when. 111 00:05:31,680 --> 00:05:34,040 Speaker 1: The Bucks are making a playoff run down a stretch, 112 00:05:34,080 --> 00:05:36,240 Speaker 1: it's like all of a sudden, Baker Mayfield every week 113 00:05:36,400 --> 00:05:38,760 Speaker 1: is just putting up numbers and Mike Evans. You know, 114 00:05:38,800 --> 00:05:41,520 Speaker 1: he's still chasing that one thousand yard season, so he's 115 00:05:41,520 --> 00:05:42,840 Speaker 1: going to be throwing at Evans a lot, which is 116 00:05:42,880 --> 00:05:44,720 Speaker 1: always good for your quarterback. 117 00:05:45,080 --> 00:05:48,400 Speaker 2: And yeah, like Mayfield a lot this week. All right, 118 00:05:48,680 --> 00:05:50,480 Speaker 2: who are you low on at quarterback? Sean? 119 00:05:51,400 --> 00:05:55,760 Speaker 4: I'm low on Matthew Stafford in terms of probably like 120 00:05:56,080 --> 00:05:59,360 Speaker 4: public opinion ECR just you know, he had a brutal 121 00:05:59,400 --> 00:06:02,280 Speaker 4: game last week, likely due to the rain. But again 122 00:06:02,320 --> 00:06:04,919 Speaker 4: he's playing outdoors this week again and met life, so 123 00:06:05,000 --> 00:06:09,240 Speaker 4: probably lowers his ceiling a tad. Plus, you know, this 124 00:06:09,320 --> 00:06:11,640 Speaker 4: is a tougher matchup against the Jets if they if 125 00:06:11,640 --> 00:06:14,760 Speaker 4: they do get DJ Reid back this week. He missed 126 00:06:14,800 --> 00:06:17,200 Speaker 4: last week with the growing injury, So you know, my 127 00:06:17,320 --> 00:06:19,720 Speaker 4: rank for Stafford probably depends on that a little bit. 128 00:06:20,279 --> 00:06:21,160 Speaker 5: Now, he still has. 129 00:06:21,160 --> 00:06:24,680 Speaker 4: Upside with Puka Nakua and Cooper Cup, but if he 130 00:06:24,720 --> 00:06:28,440 Speaker 4: doesn't get you know, multiple touchdown passes, it's really tough 131 00:06:28,440 --> 00:06:30,200 Speaker 4: for him to crack the top twelve due to his 132 00:06:30,320 --> 00:06:32,760 Speaker 4: you know, lack of rushing stats. So with him, it's 133 00:06:32,800 --> 00:06:34,800 Speaker 4: got to be the right spot where you know there's 134 00:06:35,440 --> 00:06:36,240 Speaker 4: touch on upside. 135 00:06:36,279 --> 00:06:37,720 Speaker 5: I just don't see it this week. He does. 136 00:06:37,920 --> 00:06:41,120 Speaker 4: You know, he loses touchdowns of Kiro and Williams once 137 00:06:41,120 --> 00:06:42,880 Speaker 4: they do get around the goal line too. So he's 138 00:06:42,920 --> 00:06:45,920 Speaker 4: a player that I think most weeks a bit lower 139 00:06:45,920 --> 00:06:48,280 Speaker 4: on him, but especially this week, I think at New 140 00:06:48,360 --> 00:06:50,400 Speaker 4: York he's going to be more of a mid range 141 00:06:50,440 --> 00:06:52,919 Speaker 4: QB two for me, So he opens up as my 142 00:06:53,000 --> 00:06:54,279 Speaker 4: QB eighteen this week. 143 00:06:55,520 --> 00:06:58,720 Speaker 1: Yeah, he's really kind of you know, any type of pressure. 144 00:06:58,760 --> 00:07:01,400 Speaker 1: He's not good any the weather. There's just a lot 145 00:07:01,440 --> 00:07:04,240 Speaker 1: and then the no rushing upside. So yeah, he's high, 146 00:07:04,520 --> 00:07:08,480 Speaker 1: high ceiling, but yeah, very low floor. I got kind 147 00:07:08,480 --> 00:07:11,320 Speaker 1: of a similar player Jared Goff. You know, he's I 148 00:07:11,360 --> 00:07:13,600 Speaker 1: know everybody's gonna look at the numbers last week and 149 00:07:13,640 --> 00:07:15,520 Speaker 1: be like, how do you how are you low on 150 00:07:15,560 --> 00:07:17,680 Speaker 1: this guy? But we know, we know what the deal 151 00:07:17,760 --> 00:07:21,000 Speaker 1: was with Jared Goff. Like last week, indoors shootout game 152 00:07:21,080 --> 00:07:23,560 Speaker 1: against a good offense on the other side, that's when 153 00:07:23,560 --> 00:07:27,040 Speaker 1: you want Jared Goff. Now he's going outdoors to Chicago, 154 00:07:27,480 --> 00:07:31,960 Speaker 1: which forget the outdoor. Chicago's defense has had some decent 155 00:07:32,000 --> 00:07:35,240 Speaker 1: success against Jared Goff as of late. You know, they've 156 00:07:35,440 --> 00:07:37,200 Speaker 1: you know, he hasn't really put up the huge games 157 00:07:37,200 --> 00:07:41,720 Speaker 1: that we expect from golf against the Bears defense. You know, 158 00:07:41,880 --> 00:07:45,520 Speaker 1: it was on on Thanksgiving. You know, it was two 159 00:07:45,600 --> 00:07:47,600 Speaker 1: hundred and twenty one yards, a couple of touchdowns. 160 00:07:47,760 --> 00:07:50,040 Speaker 2: So was it terrible? But that was pretty much his 161 00:07:50,120 --> 00:07:50,600 Speaker 2: best game. 162 00:07:50,880 --> 00:07:51,080 Speaker 5: You know. 163 00:07:51,240 --> 00:07:54,480 Speaker 1: Last year he had one hundred and sixty one yards, 164 00:07:54,640 --> 00:07:57,640 Speaker 1: one touchdown, two picks in the game in. 165 00:07:57,600 --> 00:07:58,680 Speaker 2: Chicago and they lost. 166 00:07:58,840 --> 00:08:01,880 Speaker 1: And in the game in Detroit, which is indoors, two 167 00:08:01,960 --> 00:08:04,560 Speaker 1: hundred and thirty six yards, two touchdowns, three picks. So 168 00:08:05,040 --> 00:08:08,400 Speaker 1: he has not fared well against the Bears defense. Now 169 00:08:08,400 --> 00:08:11,680 Speaker 1: you're going outdoors, uh, you know, coming off the huge game, 170 00:08:12,080 --> 00:08:14,360 Speaker 1: I just think it's it's a big bit of a 171 00:08:14,400 --> 00:08:18,320 Speaker 1: letdown spot here for golf and h and these Wyons 172 00:08:18,360 --> 00:08:19,080 Speaker 1: throwing the football. 173 00:08:19,640 --> 00:08:21,960 Speaker 4: Yeah, and this is his only his second game outdoors 174 00:08:21,960 --> 00:08:22,440 Speaker 4: all season. 175 00:08:22,560 --> 00:08:22,880 Speaker 5: I think. 176 00:08:23,040 --> 00:08:25,360 Speaker 1: Yeah, he had a great schedule really these last couple 177 00:08:25,400 --> 00:08:26,520 Speaker 1: of years at Green Bay. 178 00:08:27,320 --> 00:08:30,200 Speaker 4: Yeah, that's only at Green Bay, right, one hundred and 179 00:08:30,240 --> 00:08:31,680 Speaker 4: forty five yards passing. 180 00:08:31,840 --> 00:08:33,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, Yeah. He can't even look at the split 181 00:08:33,480 --> 00:08:35,920 Speaker 2: from this year because that he has I saw in one. 182 00:08:35,840 --> 00:08:38,360 Speaker 4: Well, he's averaging he's averaging one hundred and forty five 183 00:08:38,440 --> 00:08:38,920 Speaker 4: yards a game. 184 00:08:38,920 --> 00:08:39,640 Speaker 5: Outdoors this year. 185 00:08:41,480 --> 00:08:43,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, and that's probably the way you should look at it. 186 00:08:44,120 --> 00:08:44,480 Speaker 5: Yeah. 187 00:08:44,520 --> 00:08:47,880 Speaker 1: So yeah, it's a he probably haven't a decently efficient game, 188 00:08:47,880 --> 00:08:50,240 Speaker 1: but again against his Bears defense even at has come 189 00:08:50,360 --> 00:08:53,800 Speaker 1: to question at times. So yeah, I would look to 190 00:08:53,840 --> 00:08:56,520 Speaker 1: somewhere else if I could, uh for this week, even 191 00:08:56,679 --> 00:08:58,800 Speaker 1: even with the big box score last week. 192 00:08:59,000 --> 00:09:00,560 Speaker 2: All right, I'm. 193 00:09:00,840 --> 00:09:04,000 Speaker 1: Since everyone's kind of doesn't know what to do with 194 00:09:04,080 --> 00:09:05,560 Speaker 1: either of these guys. One of them is coming off 195 00:09:05,600 --> 00:09:06,920 Speaker 1: like the biggest game of his life, and one of 196 00:09:06,960 --> 00:09:08,360 Speaker 1: them is coming off one of. 197 00:09:08,320 --> 00:09:09,520 Speaker 2: The worst games of his life. 198 00:09:09,920 --> 00:09:14,920 Speaker 1: Nice Rock Party versus Jared gos passing yards. I'm gonna 199 00:09:14,960 --> 00:09:17,400 Speaker 1: go Prety minus four and a half. He's the favorite 200 00:09:17,400 --> 00:09:18,120 Speaker 1: by four and a half. 201 00:09:18,360 --> 00:09:19,760 Speaker 5: Ooh, that's a good one. 202 00:09:19,840 --> 00:09:24,760 Speaker 4: I have them tied, but I haven't really factored in 203 00:09:24,880 --> 00:09:28,360 Speaker 4: Goffs outdoor average of one hundred and forty five yards 204 00:09:28,360 --> 00:09:33,360 Speaker 4: a game yet. I'm thinking no Montgomery, oh man, he 205 00:09:33,480 --> 00:09:38,040 Speaker 4: might just check down a little bit more. Niners Party 206 00:09:38,080 --> 00:09:41,840 Speaker 4: look really bad, though. I'll go with Purty, so I 207 00:09:41,920 --> 00:09:44,600 Speaker 4: have to spot, So I'm taking a minus fo Yeah. 208 00:09:44,280 --> 00:09:46,360 Speaker 2: You're taking You've spot in four and a half yards. 209 00:09:46,920 --> 00:09:50,400 Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't love it. But I'll go with it. Yeah, 210 00:09:50,559 --> 00:09:52,880 Speaker 4: perty look bad. I think he'll bounce back. 211 00:09:53,720 --> 00:09:56,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, but that's that's the right call. I think it's 212 00:09:56,000 --> 00:09:56,480 Speaker 2: the right call. 213 00:09:56,480 --> 00:09:58,600 Speaker 1: But yeah, it's tough to set up both of their 214 00:09:58,679 --> 00:10:00,679 Speaker 1: projections because yeah, you have one of them coming off 215 00:10:00,720 --> 00:10:02,360 Speaker 1: his Monster game and you have the other one. And 216 00:10:02,400 --> 00:10:04,240 Speaker 1: it's not even just this one game. I mean he's 217 00:10:04,280 --> 00:10:07,360 Speaker 1: had he had the Rain game. I mean at the 218 00:10:07,400 --> 00:10:08,760 Speaker 1: Ring games. This is the Ring game. He had the 219 00:10:08,840 --> 00:10:10,640 Speaker 1: Rain game, and he had the Snow Game. He had 220 00:10:10,640 --> 00:10:12,120 Speaker 1: the Rain game of the Snow game. So it's like, 221 00:10:12,120 --> 00:10:14,800 Speaker 1: are we just is it recency biased or is his 222 00:10:14,840 --> 00:10:18,320 Speaker 1: on I have to go back and watch again because 223 00:10:18,320 --> 00:10:20,719 Speaker 1: I don't know. It's just I don't know, it's it's 224 00:10:20,800 --> 00:10:23,000 Speaker 1: nothing he like stood out to me outside if he 225 00:10:23,120 --> 00:10:26,079 Speaker 1: just he's looked like that too much and like it's 226 00:10:26,080 --> 00:10:27,920 Speaker 1: almost like we're getting used to him looking like that, 227 00:10:28,000 --> 00:10:29,800 Speaker 1: and it's but then he had that game in between 228 00:10:30,120 --> 00:10:33,320 Speaker 1: where did he throw for like three hundred yards against Chicago? 229 00:10:33,400 --> 00:10:35,800 Speaker 4: So yeah, yeah, do we know what his injury is? 230 00:10:35,840 --> 00:10:38,160 Speaker 4: Like I heard it could have been like a laborum 231 00:10:38,320 --> 00:10:40,199 Speaker 4: tear or something. 232 00:10:40,840 --> 00:10:42,160 Speaker 5: Do we even know what he shoulder? 233 00:10:42,240 --> 00:10:44,160 Speaker 2: I don't think we have the exact details. 234 00:10:44,120 --> 00:10:47,640 Speaker 4: Because I because I tore my labor, you could probably 235 00:10:47,679 --> 00:10:49,599 Speaker 4: play It's a lot of a lot of pain that 236 00:10:49,679 --> 00:10:52,400 Speaker 4: he needs surgery, you could play through it. So maybe 237 00:10:52,440 --> 00:10:54,880 Speaker 4: he's dealing with something like that, or is something structurally 238 00:10:54,880 --> 00:10:58,199 Speaker 4: wrong where he'll look good at times, but he did 239 00:10:58,240 --> 00:10:59,400 Speaker 4: not look good last week. 240 00:11:00,040 --> 00:11:00,760 Speaker 5: All they do the rain. 241 00:11:01,080 --> 00:11:03,560 Speaker 4: I was thinking, Okay, so when it comes to golf, 242 00:11:03,880 --> 00:11:05,440 Speaker 4: do we think the Bears are gonna be able to 243 00:11:05,440 --> 00:11:08,400 Speaker 4: put up enough points to even force golf to throw 244 00:11:08,480 --> 00:11:12,560 Speaker 4: after just watching the disaster that we just saw last 245 00:11:12,640 --> 00:11:15,280 Speaker 4: night with the Bears. But the Lion's defense, I have 246 00:11:15,400 --> 00:11:18,640 Speaker 4: so many injuries. Yeah, like so I can go either way. 247 00:11:18,679 --> 00:11:21,080 Speaker 4: So just I'm not gonna overthink it. Just give me Party. 248 00:11:21,120 --> 00:11:23,520 Speaker 4: But that's those are gonna be two players that are 249 00:11:23,520 --> 00:11:25,000 Speaker 4: gonna be fun to project later in the week. 250 00:11:25,400 --> 00:11:27,480 Speaker 1: I will say this the one the one thing I 251 00:11:27,480 --> 00:11:35,280 Speaker 1: will say about Party is the line for Niners Dolphins 252 00:11:35,440 --> 00:11:39,120 Speaker 1: in Miami is Miami minus one and a half with 253 00:11:39,120 --> 00:11:40,320 Speaker 1: a forty four and a half total. 254 00:11:40,360 --> 00:11:41,760 Speaker 2: So that that seems to me that books don't think 255 00:11:41,760 --> 00:11:42,640 Speaker 2: perty's playing. 256 00:11:43,080 --> 00:11:46,600 Speaker 3: Oh right, yeah, forty four and a half for forty 257 00:11:46,600 --> 00:11:49,880 Speaker 3: four and a half for a healthy a healthy niner 258 00:11:49,920 --> 00:11:54,880 Speaker 3: passing offense in in a you know, warm weather city. 259 00:11:55,240 --> 00:11:57,439 Speaker 2: I feel like that seems seems a little fishy. 260 00:11:57,840 --> 00:11:59,600 Speaker 5: No, they're supposed to be weather or something. 261 00:12:00,000 --> 00:12:01,400 Speaker 1: I'm like, yeah, it's supposed to be a little wed. 262 00:12:01,440 --> 00:12:03,720 Speaker 1: But no, I mean it's forty four and a half. Yeah, 263 00:12:03,720 --> 00:12:07,360 Speaker 1: I know that Miami minus Miami, like Miami is. 264 00:12:07,440 --> 00:12:10,400 Speaker 4: This Miami minus one and a half sounds about right, 265 00:12:10,640 --> 00:12:12,400 Speaker 4: But the total seems very low. 266 00:12:13,400 --> 00:12:14,680 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, and it's gone down. 267 00:12:14,760 --> 00:12:16,120 Speaker 1: It was it was I think it was forty six 268 00:12:16,160 --> 00:12:18,199 Speaker 1: and a half when I first inputted. You know, I 269 00:12:18,280 --> 00:12:20,920 Speaker 1: usually in put the numbers in my early projections just 270 00:12:20,960 --> 00:12:22,719 Speaker 1: to get to see where the market's at. And yeah, 271 00:12:22,760 --> 00:12:24,640 Speaker 1: it's gone down a couple points. 272 00:12:24,640 --> 00:12:26,720 Speaker 2: So yeah, that's something a lot total. 273 00:12:27,120 --> 00:12:29,400 Speaker 1: But yeah, I mean, if you're if you're starting party 274 00:12:29,440 --> 00:12:33,080 Speaker 1: this week, I would definitely makes plans because something something's. 275 00:12:32,760 --> 00:12:35,760 Speaker 2: A little fishy. Uh just period. I mean, yeah, he 276 00:12:35,760 --> 00:12:36,960 Speaker 2: didn't look like he could make the throws. 277 00:12:36,960 --> 00:12:39,400 Speaker 1: But again, yes it's gott You don't really want goffe 278 00:12:39,440 --> 00:12:41,280 Speaker 1: either or yeah, this is this is a tough projection. 279 00:12:41,800 --> 00:12:46,880 Speaker 1: Make sure to visit our rankings at Action network dot com. 280 00:12:46,120 --> 00:12:48,520 Speaker 2: Looking for weekly projections from me and Sean Kerner. 281 00:12:48,679 --> 00:12:51,640 Speaker 1: The only place you'll find them is a Fantasy Labs 282 00:12:51,880 --> 00:12:55,400 Speaker 1: dot com. 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Let's get some 291 00:13:25,920 --> 00:13:28,400 Speaker 1: running back, Sean, who got in your top five? 292 00:13:28,800 --> 00:13:33,120 Speaker 4: I got Jamior Gibbs number one, then Bjon Robinson, Josh Jacobs, 293 00:13:33,240 --> 00:13:34,920 Speaker 4: Chase Brown, and Saquon Barkley. 294 00:13:35,840 --> 00:13:39,720 Speaker 1: Yeah I got I got Gibbs number one, Jacob's number two, 295 00:13:40,679 --> 00:13:45,439 Speaker 1: Jon Barkley, and Jase Brown. So yeah, same same guys, 296 00:13:45,520 --> 00:13:46,480 Speaker 1: a little bit different order. 297 00:13:48,240 --> 00:13:49,400 Speaker 2: Who are you high. 298 00:13:49,160 --> 00:13:53,120 Speaker 4: On Kendre Miller? I mentioned him on the Waivers pod. 299 00:13:53,200 --> 00:13:56,640 Speaker 4: This is obviously pending. You know, Alvin Kamara not being 300 00:13:56,640 --> 00:14:00,480 Speaker 4: able to play through this growing injury and again with 301 00:14:00,760 --> 00:14:03,719 Speaker 4: you know, the Saints season over sounds like Derek Carr 302 00:14:03,760 --> 00:14:07,400 Speaker 4: is getting shut down. They're massive underdogs against the Packers. 303 00:14:08,200 --> 00:14:11,320 Speaker 4: I would imagine they just don't force Kamara out there, 304 00:14:11,320 --> 00:14:12,839 Speaker 4: and they probably want to see what they have in 305 00:14:12,920 --> 00:14:15,320 Speaker 4: Kendre Miller, who was their third round pick last year. 306 00:14:15,800 --> 00:14:16,439 Speaker 5: I like him. 307 00:14:16,760 --> 00:14:20,200 Speaker 4: He reminds me of Aaron Jones, so I would think 308 00:14:20,240 --> 00:14:22,040 Speaker 4: that they want to get him as many reps as 309 00:14:22,080 --> 00:14:25,080 Speaker 4: possible these last few weeks, So this would be a 310 00:14:25,080 --> 00:14:26,640 Speaker 4: good week to do it. And I think, you know, 311 00:14:26,720 --> 00:14:28,640 Speaker 4: he'll be much more involved in the passing game if 312 00:14:28,680 --> 00:14:31,800 Speaker 4: Kamara does sit, so I think he's got the potential 313 00:14:31,880 --> 00:14:34,800 Speaker 4: to be like a low end RB two here if 314 00:14:34,840 --> 00:14:38,320 Speaker 4: Kamara is out. Another guy that I'm I'm gonna be 315 00:14:38,400 --> 00:14:43,080 Speaker 4: high on compared to consensus is Ray Davis, just because 316 00:14:43,120 --> 00:14:46,800 Speaker 4: I think this is a sneaky spot for him in 317 00:14:46,840 --> 00:14:49,560 Speaker 4: a game where the Bills are just massive favorites against 318 00:14:49,600 --> 00:14:52,480 Speaker 4: the Patriots. I think you called Ty Johnson last week, 319 00:14:52,640 --> 00:14:54,960 Speaker 4: Oh Ky Johnson. Ty Johnson is the back to take 320 00:14:55,000 --> 00:14:56,280 Speaker 4: it if you think the Bills are going to be 321 00:14:56,280 --> 00:14:59,200 Speaker 4: in like a shootout or potentially a trailing game. Script 322 00:14:59,480 --> 00:15:01,280 Speaker 4: Ray Davis This is the opposite. If you think we're 323 00:15:01,280 --> 00:15:03,120 Speaker 4: going to blow a team out, you go with Ray Davis. 324 00:15:03,160 --> 00:15:08,520 Speaker 4: We saw that in Week thirteen against the Niners, rushed 325 00:15:08,640 --> 00:15:11,160 Speaker 4: eleven times six or three yards in a touchdown. I 326 00:15:11,200 --> 00:15:14,920 Speaker 4: think we could see a similar line here. You know, 327 00:15:14,960 --> 00:15:18,920 Speaker 4: against the Patriots. They got to keep James Cook fresh 328 00:15:18,960 --> 00:15:20,880 Speaker 4: for the playoffs as well. They kind of want to 329 00:15:20,920 --> 00:15:24,040 Speaker 4: limit how many touches he gets just in general, because 330 00:15:24,080 --> 00:15:25,400 Speaker 4: he did kind of fall off at the end of 331 00:15:25,480 --> 00:15:27,880 Speaker 4: last year. So I think that's key here. If they 332 00:15:27,960 --> 00:15:30,520 Speaker 4: get up early, just keep feeding Ray Davis. So I 333 00:15:30,600 --> 00:15:34,000 Speaker 4: think he could make for an interesting desperation RB three 334 00:15:34,080 --> 00:15:37,080 Speaker 4: flex type for managers who are in a bind. Obviously 335 00:15:37,120 --> 00:15:40,160 Speaker 4: great play for dfs, maybe props, but Ray Davis is 336 00:15:40,160 --> 00:15:42,800 Speaker 4: a guy I'm gonna want to be higher than easier 337 00:15:42,880 --> 00:15:43,520 Speaker 4: on this week. 338 00:15:44,240 --> 00:15:46,680 Speaker 1: Yeah, it sets up as a Ray Davis gana Bill's 339 00:15:47,120 --> 00:15:50,320 Speaker 1: They just I don't I mean, maybe they have a letdown, 340 00:15:50,320 --> 00:15:54,120 Speaker 1: but at this point they just they're rolling an offense. 341 00:15:54,160 --> 00:15:58,960 Speaker 1: So yeah, Jerome Ford like him this week against the Bengals. 342 00:15:59,000 --> 00:16:02,520 Speaker 1: I mean, I think you're gonna have with Dorian Thompson 343 00:16:02,600 --> 00:16:05,320 Speaker 1: Robinson starting, You're not gonna have a ton of success 344 00:16:05,320 --> 00:16:08,040 Speaker 1: through the air that you've been having with you know, 345 00:16:08,120 --> 00:16:10,240 Speaker 1: Jerry Judy and all these guys. So that's there's gonna 346 00:16:10,280 --> 00:16:12,240 Speaker 1: be yards to be had, you know, just to kind 347 00:16:12,280 --> 00:16:14,520 Speaker 1: of move the ball, and I think Ford gets more 348 00:16:14,560 --> 00:16:17,080 Speaker 1: of those. And he was already cutting into Nick Chubb's 349 00:16:17,120 --> 00:16:19,680 Speaker 1: early down usage as the season progressed, which is, you know, 350 00:16:19,720 --> 00:16:22,760 Speaker 1: pretty crazy considering just how much respect they have for Chubbs. 351 00:16:22,800 --> 00:16:24,560 Speaker 1: So the fact that they were kind of taking some 352 00:16:24,600 --> 00:16:27,680 Speaker 1: of his work away as the season progressed and he struggled, 353 00:16:27,960 --> 00:16:30,800 Speaker 1: I think Ford will continue to be the lead back 354 00:16:30,840 --> 00:16:33,880 Speaker 1: and he's in tune for potentially be a really big 355 00:16:33,880 --> 00:16:37,960 Speaker 1: workload here because they've been just healthy scratching deonce Foreman 356 00:16:38,200 --> 00:16:41,080 Speaker 1: for you know, a couple of months now pretty much. 357 00:16:41,200 --> 00:16:43,160 Speaker 1: And Pierre Strong he's been in and out, but he's 358 00:16:43,160 --> 00:16:45,000 Speaker 1: more of the you know, Ford back up in the 359 00:16:45,040 --> 00:16:48,200 Speaker 1: past game, which they don't that's not really changing with 360 00:16:48,680 --> 00:16:51,680 Speaker 1: Chubb going out. So I think Ford against this Bengal 361 00:16:51,760 --> 00:16:56,160 Speaker 1: defense that you know, could be playing some pre event 362 00:16:56,320 --> 00:16:58,600 Speaker 1: late in the game, the way the Bengals offense is playing, 363 00:16:59,400 --> 00:17:03,480 Speaker 1: like Ford here against the Bengals, all right, who are 364 00:17:03,480 --> 00:17:05,840 Speaker 1: you low on it? Running back four Week sixteen, Shaw. 365 00:17:06,080 --> 00:17:10,040 Speaker 4: I'm low on Nase Harris, which sucks. This is the 366 00:17:10,040 --> 00:17:13,199 Speaker 4: time here he kind of turns into Derrick Henry. But 367 00:17:13,720 --> 00:17:15,800 Speaker 4: you know, he's coming off a brutal game against the 368 00:17:15,800 --> 00:17:19,320 Speaker 4: Eagles and this is just another brutal spot for him 369 00:17:19,320 --> 00:17:22,320 Speaker 4: to get, you know, a pass funnel Raven's defense, and 370 00:17:22,680 --> 00:17:25,080 Speaker 4: you know, Nause's always going to get a downgrade whenever 371 00:17:25,160 --> 00:17:27,320 Speaker 4: the Steelers are expected to be in more of a 372 00:17:27,320 --> 00:17:30,000 Speaker 4: trailing game script, which is certainly the case this week. 373 00:17:30,080 --> 00:17:32,919 Speaker 4: So I think this does set up better for Jalen 374 00:17:33,000 --> 00:17:36,719 Speaker 4: Warren out of you know, the Steelers backfield. So I 375 00:17:36,760 --> 00:17:39,560 Speaker 4: have Nause as you know, a dicey RB three flex 376 00:17:39,600 --> 00:17:42,320 Speaker 4: play who might need a touchdown this week to really 377 00:17:42,359 --> 00:17:44,200 Speaker 4: offer any value for you. 378 00:17:44,359 --> 00:17:45,280 Speaker 5: So you know, he's a. 379 00:17:45,280 --> 00:17:48,280 Speaker 4: Guy that just in these types of spots, My projections 380 00:17:48,280 --> 00:17:49,840 Speaker 4: are going to be much much lower on Nause. 381 00:17:50,080 --> 00:17:52,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, let's be really, most weeks he needs 382 00:17:52,560 --> 00:17:55,760 Speaker 2: to touch down anyway, that's true. It's sixteen carries for 383 00:17:55,840 --> 00:17:58,159 Speaker 2: sixty three yards if I mean. 384 00:17:58,119 --> 00:18:00,840 Speaker 4: Last year, though last year by this time it was 385 00:18:00,920 --> 00:18:03,400 Speaker 4: like twenty seven carries for one hundred and thirty seven. 386 00:18:03,640 --> 00:18:05,639 Speaker 5: Like, this is the time year he does that. 387 00:18:05,800 --> 00:18:08,560 Speaker 4: You know, usually when it's a bad weather game and 388 00:18:08,600 --> 00:18:11,720 Speaker 4: it's a closer game. Those those have been big nause 389 00:18:11,840 --> 00:18:13,600 Speaker 4: games of it. We're just not seeing that right now. 390 00:18:13,920 --> 00:18:16,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, that was brutal that fumble. Uh pretty much touched 391 00:18:16,840 --> 00:18:18,760 Speaker 2: my Steelers bet because I think, you know, they were 392 00:18:18,800 --> 00:18:19,560 Speaker 2: driving down the field. 393 00:18:19,600 --> 00:18:20,119 Speaker 5: It was one. 394 00:18:20,160 --> 00:18:22,520 Speaker 1: I think it was could have cut into that lead, 395 00:18:22,600 --> 00:18:24,960 Speaker 1: and then yeah, I think it was a seven point game. 396 00:18:25,000 --> 00:18:27,000 Speaker 1: And then he fumbles in after they had a good 397 00:18:27,040 --> 00:18:31,199 Speaker 1: job going. Pretty much that was it, all right. I 398 00:18:31,240 --> 00:18:33,679 Speaker 1: am low on Rimandre Stevenson. I think he's another kind 399 00:18:33,720 --> 00:18:35,240 Speaker 1: of dice. He guy kind of turned into a little 400 00:18:35,240 --> 00:18:39,040 Speaker 1: bit of that similar type of Backwaikah Harris where if 401 00:18:39,080 --> 00:18:41,040 Speaker 1: you don't get a touchdown, you're not you're not really 402 00:18:41,080 --> 00:18:43,199 Speaker 1: sitting pretty with him, and he's it's the Patriots, so 403 00:18:43,240 --> 00:18:46,600 Speaker 1: that's tough to do. But two of the last three games, 404 00:18:46,600 --> 00:18:49,280 Speaker 1: which we're both games where it was a blowout, his 405 00:18:49,359 --> 00:18:51,800 Speaker 1: snap count went you know, down more than it has 406 00:18:51,840 --> 00:18:54,040 Speaker 1: early in the season. He went, you know, just forty 407 00:18:54,040 --> 00:18:57,639 Speaker 1: two percent of snaps against the Dolphins and then sixty 408 00:18:57,680 --> 00:19:00,440 Speaker 1: five percent against the Cardinals. And we saw the second 409 00:19:00,440 --> 00:19:03,760 Speaker 1: street week Antonio Gibson really looked a lot better than 410 00:19:03,800 --> 00:19:07,359 Speaker 1: Remandre on some of his snaps. So I just worry 411 00:19:07,359 --> 00:19:09,800 Speaker 1: that you either get a blowout and Remondre kind of 412 00:19:09,800 --> 00:19:12,280 Speaker 1: doesn't really get a full compliment of steps, or they. 413 00:19:12,200 --> 00:19:13,680 Speaker 2: Keep working in Gibson a little more. 414 00:19:14,320 --> 00:19:17,520 Speaker 1: So there's kind of a dual threat here against this 415 00:19:17,640 --> 00:19:21,480 Speaker 1: Bill's team as a huge underdog for Remondre, so he's 416 00:19:21,520 --> 00:19:23,639 Speaker 1: still a top twenty four back in ECR. I prefer 417 00:19:23,720 --> 00:19:26,440 Speaker 1: him as you know, RB three flex kind of guy 418 00:19:26,440 --> 00:19:28,840 Speaker 1: who really don't want to be relying on. If you're 419 00:19:28,920 --> 00:19:32,359 Speaker 1: you know this deep into the fantasy playoffs, let's see 420 00:19:32,520 --> 00:19:33,080 Speaker 1: prop so. 421 00:19:33,040 --> 00:19:34,879 Speaker 2: This is you we were going this week? 422 00:19:35,520 --> 00:19:38,679 Speaker 4: Just running back props in general have been really tricky 423 00:19:38,720 --> 00:19:40,960 Speaker 4: this year. One of the few props I lost like 424 00:19:41,240 --> 00:19:44,359 Speaker 4: last week was I had Tank Bigsby over. It just 425 00:19:44,400 --> 00:19:47,000 Speaker 4: seems like any short term trend you can't read into it, 426 00:19:47,040 --> 00:19:48,720 Speaker 4: just throw it out the window. It doesn't matter, just 427 00:19:48,800 --> 00:19:54,320 Speaker 4: anything goes. So let's go with the Jaguars backfield. I'm 428 00:19:54,280 --> 00:19:56,320 Speaker 4: gonna I want to hear your thoughts on this because 429 00:19:56,359 --> 00:19:57,919 Speaker 4: I don't know what to do here. But who's going 430 00:19:58,000 --> 00:20:00,879 Speaker 4: to have more rushing yards this week? Travis et or 431 00:20:00,960 --> 00:20:06,000 Speaker 4: tank big Sby against the Raiders. Ooh, because ETN was 432 00:20:06,040 --> 00:20:09,679 Speaker 4: just the clear lead back last week, just you know 433 00:20:09,720 --> 00:20:14,120 Speaker 4: Bigsby would mix in. But it's kind of surprising, and 434 00:20:14,640 --> 00:20:16,800 Speaker 4: I think this this does set up for like a 435 00:20:16,800 --> 00:20:19,240 Speaker 4: better spot than Bigsby. But it's just like, what are 436 00:20:19,280 --> 00:20:20,480 Speaker 4: your thoughts on this backfield? 437 00:20:20,920 --> 00:20:23,240 Speaker 1: I have fifty to fifty on carries. I have ETN 438 00:20:23,320 --> 00:20:26,680 Speaker 1: with a as a clear uh lead back on passing downs. 439 00:20:26,760 --> 00:20:28,439 Speaker 1: But yeah, carries have been I mean, if you do 440 00:20:28,480 --> 00:20:30,879 Speaker 1: look at the full season numbers, they've been equal in 441 00:20:31,000 --> 00:20:34,440 Speaker 1: carries and then it's been the passing work where ETN 442 00:20:34,680 --> 00:20:37,679 Speaker 1: has kind of separated. So because you know, you like 443 00:20:37,760 --> 00:20:39,840 Speaker 1: with running backs, I do still look at, like, you know, 444 00:20:39,880 --> 00:20:43,000 Speaker 1: the if when you're raiding the recent trends, which as 445 00:20:43,000 --> 00:20:44,960 Speaker 1: you mentioned, has been a little bit hit or missed 446 00:20:44,960 --> 00:20:47,000 Speaker 1: this year. But when you're waiting the recent trends, it's 447 00:20:47,040 --> 00:20:50,360 Speaker 1: usually the past two games for running backs, and Bigsby 448 00:20:50,400 --> 00:20:54,240 Speaker 1: had that game two weeks ago where he had seventy 449 00:20:54,280 --> 00:20:57,679 Speaker 1: eight percent of the design backfield carries and ETN and 450 00:20:57,720 --> 00:20:59,720 Speaker 1: he had seventeen, and then last week it was fifty 451 00:20:59,720 --> 00:21:03,719 Speaker 1: six forty four in favorite. So Bigsby's edge was bigger 452 00:21:03,760 --> 00:21:06,680 Speaker 1: in the game that he had the weed season. It's 453 00:21:06,720 --> 00:21:09,399 Speaker 1: literally within one percent. So I'm gonna I'm gonna go 454 00:21:09,440 --> 00:21:11,240 Speaker 1: with Big Beer. I have him, I have him equal 455 00:21:11,280 --> 00:21:13,720 Speaker 1: in terms of carries, so the Bigsby is more yards 456 00:21:13,720 --> 00:21:16,919 Speaker 1: per carry, So I have him at forty seven and 457 00:21:16,920 --> 00:21:19,120 Speaker 1: then at forty two, I have him both getting about 458 00:21:19,160 --> 00:21:19,679 Speaker 1: ten carries. 459 00:21:20,320 --> 00:21:21,960 Speaker 5: Yeah. Yeah, it was just a good spot. 460 00:21:22,000 --> 00:21:25,240 Speaker 4: The Jets defense had been vulnerable on inside runs, which 461 00:21:25,280 --> 00:21:28,360 Speaker 4: is what Bigsby thrives with. And I was watching the game, 462 00:21:28,400 --> 00:21:32,080 Speaker 4: of course because I had that prop, but it looked 463 00:21:32,119 --> 00:21:34,359 Speaker 4: like he was in for a drive. Usually he was 464 00:21:34,400 --> 00:21:36,760 Speaker 4: going to get the whole drive. And the first play 465 00:21:36,920 --> 00:21:40,560 Speaker 4: he fumbled it. Yeah, and then came in right away. 466 00:21:40,600 --> 00:21:44,000 Speaker 4: But the like the fumbled inn't count because it was 467 00:21:44,040 --> 00:21:46,800 Speaker 4: a penalty, like a Jets player like ripped his face 468 00:21:46,840 --> 00:21:48,720 Speaker 4: off and he fumbled. Yep, And it's almost like he 469 00:21:48,760 --> 00:21:49,960 Speaker 4: got in trouble for that. 470 00:21:50,440 --> 00:21:52,199 Speaker 2: Could have been hurt, just been hurt. I mean if 471 00:21:52,200 --> 00:21:56,120 Speaker 2: he did get his Yeah, yeah exactly, but then you know, yeah, 472 00:21:56,119 --> 00:21:57,320 Speaker 2: I didn't need to check out. 473 00:21:57,160 --> 00:21:59,080 Speaker 5: For he's a little bit he's tanked. 474 00:21:59,119 --> 00:22:02,160 Speaker 4: Okay, he's tank, doesn't get hurt, but it just seemed 475 00:22:02,200 --> 00:22:04,679 Speaker 4: like he was briefly kind of bench for that and 476 00:22:04,960 --> 00:22:07,639 Speaker 4: just they were just playing met and heavily. So again 477 00:22:07,840 --> 00:22:10,320 Speaker 4: just my my bigger point is his running backs have 478 00:22:10,400 --> 00:22:13,720 Speaker 4: been really fickle this year, uh and tough to project, 479 00:22:13,800 --> 00:22:16,800 Speaker 4: so kind of staying away from those types of props 480 00:22:16,880 --> 00:22:17,920 Speaker 4: if I can help, Hey. 481 00:22:18,040 --> 00:22:20,760 Speaker 1: We're gonna get We're probably gonna get if if McLoughlin's out, 482 00:22:20,800 --> 00:22:23,080 Speaker 1: we'll get another Javonte like ten and a half carriages 483 00:22:23,480 --> 00:22:27,560 Speaker 1: and thirty five yards or forty yards something outrageous, right, Well, 484 00:22:27,600 --> 00:22:28,199 Speaker 1: he might get that. 485 00:22:28,359 --> 00:22:31,359 Speaker 5: Look out for those if McLoughlin's out, he might get it. 486 00:22:31,520 --> 00:22:32,320 Speaker 5: So that's the thing. 487 00:22:32,560 --> 00:22:35,240 Speaker 1: Yeah, you say that, you say that, but what we 488 00:22:35,400 --> 00:22:37,679 Speaker 1: what do we know about the Bronco's backfield ever, the 489 00:22:37,760 --> 00:22:39,720 Speaker 1: one guy who's I mean, I think it's been what 490 00:22:39,800 --> 00:22:41,360 Speaker 1: like probably if you look at his number, I think 491 00:22:41,359 --> 00:22:43,679 Speaker 1: it's probably been like nine or ten of his or 492 00:22:43,920 --> 00:22:46,959 Speaker 1: of the weeks he's at weast got to be like 493 00:22:47,040 --> 00:22:49,760 Speaker 1: ten and four to unders at weast, if not like 494 00:22:49,840 --> 00:22:50,520 Speaker 1: eleven or twelve. 495 00:22:50,520 --> 00:22:52,439 Speaker 2: I mean he's been yeah, oh yeah, he's had like 496 00:22:52,480 --> 00:22:54,760 Speaker 2: maybe one or two games where he's exceeded expectations and 497 00:22:54,840 --> 00:22:59,119 Speaker 2: that's it. Yep, all right, wide receiver top five for 498 00:22:59,200 --> 00:22:59,880 Speaker 2: Week sixteen. 499 00:23:00,440 --> 00:23:06,320 Speaker 4: Let's see, I got Jamar Chase, Mike Evans, Luca Nakua, 500 00:23:06,800 --> 00:23:08,919 Speaker 4: Nico Collins, and AJ Brown. 501 00:23:10,119 --> 00:23:17,200 Speaker 2: I got Chase nicoua A Manra Evans and Nico Collins. 502 00:23:17,280 --> 00:23:17,680 Speaker 5: Nice. 503 00:23:18,640 --> 00:23:19,480 Speaker 2: Who are you high on? 504 00:23:20,440 --> 00:23:23,600 Speaker 5: I'm high on DJ Moore this week. 505 00:23:23,680 --> 00:23:27,200 Speaker 4: And you know, make no mistake, this Bears offense is 506 00:23:27,240 --> 00:23:30,639 Speaker 4: a complete disaster right now. The plan just seems to 507 00:23:30,640 --> 00:23:34,119 Speaker 4: get just get through the season. You know, fire all 508 00:23:34,160 --> 00:23:37,399 Speaker 4: these coaches hire a new staff, but for now, the 509 00:23:37,440 --> 00:23:40,120 Speaker 4: plan is, you know, get Caleb to dump it off 510 00:23:40,119 --> 00:23:43,480 Speaker 4: the DJ Moore most of the time, and now, hell 511 00:23:43,640 --> 00:23:45,239 Speaker 4: just line him up at running back and get him 512 00:23:45,280 --> 00:23:47,680 Speaker 4: some carries, kind of like a Deebo Samuel type role. 513 00:23:48,119 --> 00:23:50,280 Speaker 4: You know, you had three carries for twenty four yards. 514 00:23:51,560 --> 00:23:55,520 Speaker 4: Maybe the plan they had for vellis Jones Junior. 515 00:23:54,840 --> 00:23:55,479 Speaker 5: Early in the year. 516 00:23:55,520 --> 00:23:57,919 Speaker 4: They're just putting DJ Moore in that role. So he 517 00:23:58,000 --> 00:24:00,040 Speaker 4: seems to have the higher floor right now. And this 518 00:24:00,040 --> 00:24:01,760 Speaker 4: this is going to be, you know, a pass heavy, 519 00:24:02,359 --> 00:24:06,440 Speaker 4: trailing game script against the Lions, who just keep losing 520 00:24:06,440 --> 00:24:09,280 Speaker 4: players on defense. So you know, the Bills scored forty 521 00:24:09,280 --> 00:24:11,760 Speaker 4: eight on them, you know, not too surprising since they're 522 00:24:11,880 --> 00:24:15,080 Speaker 4: arguably you know, the best team right now, but you know, 523 00:24:15,119 --> 00:24:17,080 Speaker 4: the Bears might be able to put up some points. 524 00:24:17,080 --> 00:24:19,760 Speaker 4: And I think again just they're peppering Dj Moore with 525 00:24:19,840 --> 00:24:23,359 Speaker 4: these high percentage targets and now direct snap. So I 526 00:24:23,520 --> 00:24:25,920 Speaker 4: just think he has a very high floor right now. 527 00:24:25,920 --> 00:24:30,119 Speaker 4: He's my wide receiver fourteen to open the week. And 528 00:24:30,200 --> 00:24:32,520 Speaker 4: the other guy I'm high on is you know, this 529 00:24:32,600 --> 00:24:35,760 Speaker 4: isn't a great matchup against the Cardinals, but you know, 530 00:24:35,840 --> 00:24:39,240 Speaker 4: Adam Feelen is still I think, you know, high end 531 00:24:39,240 --> 00:24:42,880 Speaker 4: wide receiver three right now. You know, Jalen Coker returning 532 00:24:42,880 --> 00:24:44,399 Speaker 4: to the lineup last week was going to make this 533 00:24:44,440 --> 00:24:48,240 Speaker 4: wide receiver room a bit more crowded where I thought, 534 00:24:48,280 --> 00:24:51,840 Speaker 4: you know, feelin would survive that. But Xavier Lagette is 535 00:24:51,880 --> 00:24:53,679 Speaker 4: now weak to week with the groin injury, so that 536 00:24:53,760 --> 00:24:57,520 Speaker 4: opens things up for Feeling again here. So I think 537 00:24:57,920 --> 00:25:00,000 Speaker 4: Feelin's is still one of those like high floor plays. 538 00:25:00,280 --> 00:25:02,560 Speaker 4: I think with you know, Bryce Young playing well, where 539 00:25:02,840 --> 00:25:04,840 Speaker 4: even in a spot against the Cardinals, who haven't been 540 00:25:05,240 --> 00:25:07,800 Speaker 4: a great matchup again, I think we can still bank 541 00:25:07,840 --> 00:25:10,320 Speaker 4: on him being you know, like a solid wide wide 542 00:25:10,359 --> 00:25:12,600 Speaker 4: receiver three option if you've been leaning on him in 543 00:25:12,600 --> 00:25:14,040 Speaker 4: these past few weeks. 544 00:25:14,040 --> 00:25:19,560 Speaker 1: A wide receiver three verwing Mike Tyson three. Yeah, No, 545 00:25:19,560 --> 00:25:21,280 Speaker 1: I agree that, I totally agree. I mean we talked 546 00:25:21,320 --> 00:25:23,120 Speaker 1: about it last week on one of the pods, how 547 00:25:23,640 --> 00:25:25,720 Speaker 1: like David Moore is definitely gonna be the guy to 548 00:25:25,760 --> 00:25:29,040 Speaker 1: hit benched, and he did. He was benched, but uh uh, 549 00:25:29,240 --> 00:25:32,240 Speaker 1: we'll get went down. So it's yeah, it's gonna probably 550 00:25:32,280 --> 00:25:36,399 Speaker 1: be being cocher and more in less we. 551 00:25:37,720 --> 00:25:42,119 Speaker 2: Cleared all right. For me, it's it's it's let's go 552 00:25:42,200 --> 00:25:43,040 Speaker 2: the early week guy. 553 00:25:43,560 --> 00:25:43,639 Speaker 5: Uh. 554 00:25:43,680 --> 00:25:45,439 Speaker 1: Since you might be wondering about him, but he's I mean, 555 00:25:45,440 --> 00:25:48,560 Speaker 1: he's fine. You should he's he's my number eleven this week, 556 00:25:48,560 --> 00:25:52,679 Speaker 1: Wide receiver eleven. Lad McConkey. He's still hovering in the twenties. 557 00:25:52,720 --> 00:25:56,159 Speaker 1: I guess it's Tuesday in ECR. But remember he is 558 00:25:56,240 --> 00:25:59,960 Speaker 1: the charges man beater, so going up against the Bronco 559 00:26:00,240 --> 00:26:03,480 Speaker 1: looks like a tough matchup on paper, but he's gonna 560 00:26:03,480 --> 00:26:05,800 Speaker 1: get peppered with targets as he does every week. 561 00:26:05,840 --> 00:26:08,800 Speaker 2: And Quentin Johnston is hurt. Have we gottenn update on him? 562 00:26:08,800 --> 00:26:11,080 Speaker 1: I know he didn't practice I think or he was 563 00:26:11,119 --> 00:26:14,520 Speaker 1: lifted as a non participant on you think he's gonna 564 00:26:14,560 --> 00:26:16,119 Speaker 1: go or he doesn't go. 565 00:26:16,400 --> 00:26:18,320 Speaker 4: I mean, I mean this is Thursday at football, So 566 00:26:18,359 --> 00:26:21,160 Speaker 4: I would say that the chances of him being able 567 00:26:21,200 --> 00:26:24,800 Speaker 4: to suit up are much lower. It's an ankle injury, yeah, 568 00:26:25,440 --> 00:26:30,359 Speaker 4: non participant in Monday's estimated practice report ankle injuries. It 569 00:26:30,400 --> 00:26:32,399 Speaker 4: could have been a sprain ankle and he's totally fine, 570 00:26:32,560 --> 00:26:34,800 Speaker 4: or it's you know, midd or high and he's out. 571 00:26:34,880 --> 00:26:37,160 Speaker 4: So definitely some of them monitor but just the fact 572 00:26:37,200 --> 00:26:39,880 Speaker 4: that they do play on the short week, probably lower. 573 00:26:39,760 --> 00:26:42,480 Speaker 5: Is his chances of suiting up. Yeah, McConkie. 574 00:26:42,520 --> 00:26:44,960 Speaker 1: I mean last last four games six for one, twenty three, 575 00:26:45,040 --> 00:26:48,320 Speaker 1: six for eighty three, nine for one, seventeen h five 576 00:26:48,320 --> 00:26:51,679 Speaker 1: for fifty eight and one. So he's he's gonna get 577 00:26:51,680 --> 00:26:54,720 Speaker 1: the targets. Denver very good defense. But I think that 578 00:26:54,760 --> 00:26:57,560 Speaker 1: people who just too well on him because there's no. 579 00:26:57,560 --> 00:26:58,800 Speaker 2: One really for Herbert to throw to. 580 00:26:58,880 --> 00:27:02,040 Speaker 1: And I think something I like a little bit about 581 00:27:02,040 --> 00:27:05,639 Speaker 1: this matchup as well. One of the only betside hit 582 00:27:05,720 --> 00:27:08,640 Speaker 1: last week besides the Davonte, was the justin Herbert under 583 00:27:08,720 --> 00:27:10,960 Speaker 1: rushing yards and because you know, when he gets his 584 00:27:11,040 --> 00:27:14,000 Speaker 1: little injuries, his little ankle injuries, he doesn't scramble, and 585 00:27:14,000 --> 00:27:17,760 Speaker 1: if he doesn't scramble, that's just more potential targets, you know, 586 00:27:17,800 --> 00:27:20,760 Speaker 1: going down the field to the receivers, and McConkie is 587 00:27:20,760 --> 00:27:22,560 Speaker 1: going to be at the top of that list. So yeah, 588 00:27:22,560 --> 00:27:26,040 Speaker 1: I like him this week. Who are you low on 589 00:27:26,240 --> 00:27:28,960 Speaker 1: for Week sixteen at wide receiver seaw. 590 00:27:29,280 --> 00:27:31,000 Speaker 5: I'm low on Calvin Ridley. 591 00:27:32,040 --> 00:27:35,640 Speaker 4: You know, after having that massive three to five week stretch, 592 00:27:35,760 --> 00:27:38,680 Speaker 4: you know, starting around week eight, his production has cooled 593 00:27:38,680 --> 00:27:43,760 Speaker 4: off a bit, and you know Mason Rudolph is going 594 00:27:43,800 --> 00:27:46,920 Speaker 4: to be a little bit more conservative then Will Levis. 595 00:27:47,160 --> 00:27:50,920 Speaker 4: He'll throw less pick sixes, which you know, pick sixes 596 00:27:50,960 --> 00:27:54,399 Speaker 4: are essentially the best possible play for a player like Ridley. 597 00:27:54,400 --> 00:27:56,399 Speaker 4: You get the ball right back and now you're down 598 00:27:56,520 --> 00:27:58,359 Speaker 4: seven more points and you got to be more pass 599 00:27:58,400 --> 00:28:00,000 Speaker 4: heavy and aggressive to to overcome. 600 00:28:00,000 --> 00:28:00,679 Speaker 5: I would site for that. 601 00:28:01,520 --> 00:28:03,720 Speaker 4: So, you know, having Mason Rudolph under center kind of 602 00:28:03,800 --> 00:28:07,159 Speaker 4: hurts really's upside. And Rudolph was targeting, you know, his 603 00:28:07,240 --> 00:28:09,080 Speaker 4: running back to tight ends at a higher rate. We 604 00:28:09,119 --> 00:28:13,280 Speaker 4: saw chicka Quonko just have a career game at the 605 00:28:13,280 --> 00:28:15,879 Speaker 4: expense of someone like Ridley, So I think this week 606 00:28:16,119 --> 00:28:18,919 Speaker 4: I'm gonna be a bit lower on Ridley. Sure he 607 00:28:18,960 --> 00:28:21,280 Speaker 4: can still catch, you know, a deep ball or two, 608 00:28:21,280 --> 00:28:24,520 Speaker 4: but he's gonna be even dicier than most weeks. And 609 00:28:24,600 --> 00:28:28,359 Speaker 4: another guy im loan is Jerry Judy. You know, it 610 00:28:28,400 --> 00:28:29,879 Speaker 4: was a handful of weeks ago I said he was 611 00:28:29,920 --> 00:28:32,600 Speaker 4: a sneaky ad on our waiver pod because there was 612 00:28:32,600 --> 00:28:34,520 Speaker 4: a chance they're going to trade and mark Cooper away, 613 00:28:34,600 --> 00:28:37,199 Speaker 4: maybe they would bench Deshaun Watson at some point. And 614 00:28:37,240 --> 00:28:41,120 Speaker 4: sure enough, you know, Amari Cooper got traded away, Watson 615 00:28:41,120 --> 00:28:42,800 Speaker 4: got hurt, so Winston took over, and we. 616 00:28:42,800 --> 00:28:45,600 Speaker 5: Saw Judy erupt. 617 00:28:45,760 --> 00:28:48,360 Speaker 4: Now you know DTR is taking over, who I think 618 00:28:48,440 --> 00:28:51,280 Speaker 4: is sneaky for like DFS because of his rushing upside, 619 00:28:51,720 --> 00:28:54,800 Speaker 4: but he definitely hurts, you know, the passing volume. We 620 00:28:54,880 --> 00:28:58,880 Speaker 4: love jamis for the Browns pass catchers, but DTR is 621 00:28:58,880 --> 00:29:03,120 Speaker 4: gonna scramble more. Plus you know Cedric Tillman David Joku 622 00:29:03,240 --> 00:29:05,960 Speaker 4: might return this week, which you know is a hit 623 00:29:06,040 --> 00:29:09,880 Speaker 4: on Jerry Judy's target share. So Jerry Judy's you know, 624 00:29:09,960 --> 00:29:11,640 Speaker 4: more of a low end wide receiver three for me 625 00:29:11,680 --> 00:29:13,840 Speaker 4: this week, he has a great matchup against the Bengals, 626 00:29:13,840 --> 00:29:16,520 Speaker 4: so he could still you know, have a big game here. 627 00:29:16,600 --> 00:29:19,480 Speaker 4: But you know, my projections for him are just going 628 00:29:19,520 --> 00:29:21,520 Speaker 4: to be a bit lower here with DTR taken over 629 00:29:21,920 --> 00:29:25,160 Speaker 4: and a couple you know, key pass catchers potentially returning 630 00:29:25,160 --> 00:29:25,560 Speaker 4: this week. 631 00:29:26,040 --> 00:29:30,160 Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly, I have that in the outline Elijah Moore, 632 00:29:30,240 --> 00:29:31,600 Speaker 1: and it's for the same exactly reason. 633 00:29:31,760 --> 00:29:33,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, he's the ETHR forty two. 634 00:29:33,440 --> 00:29:36,920 Speaker 1: And listen, you know More he's been he's been on 635 00:29:36,960 --> 00:29:38,880 Speaker 1: the field a ton and he you know, James targeted 636 00:29:38,920 --> 00:29:41,000 Speaker 1: him at a much higher rate than Watson did. But 637 00:29:41,120 --> 00:29:43,520 Speaker 1: now you know, we're back to, like you said, we 638 00:29:43,600 --> 00:29:45,920 Speaker 1: have a quarterback who's going to project for half the 639 00:29:46,000 --> 00:29:49,360 Speaker 1: yards and Tillman probably comes back, and even if not, 640 00:29:49,440 --> 00:29:52,360 Speaker 1: I mean Woods has been more involved than I think 641 00:29:52,400 --> 00:29:54,880 Speaker 1: anyone thought coming out in practice squad as well. So 642 00:29:54,960 --> 00:29:57,280 Speaker 1: Woods has actually been leading them in routes since he's 643 00:29:57,280 --> 00:30:01,120 Speaker 1: been active. So yeah, Elijah More, I think he's kind 644 00:30:01,120 --> 00:30:05,240 Speaker 1: of out of the starting consideration. Another guy, DeAndre Hopkins, 645 00:30:05,880 --> 00:30:07,240 Speaker 1: assuming Patrick Mahomes. 646 00:30:06,960 --> 00:30:08,640 Speaker 2: Is out or even if he's in, forget it's not 647 00:30:08,680 --> 00:30:09,640 Speaker 2: even it's not even. 648 00:30:09,760 --> 00:30:13,120 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's cute here, DeAndre Hopkins with the amount of 649 00:30:13,200 --> 00:30:16,080 Speaker 1: routes that he's running right now, is not a viable 650 00:30:16,200 --> 00:30:17,400 Speaker 1: starting fantasy receiver. 651 00:30:17,760 --> 00:30:18,240 Speaker 2: He's just not. 652 00:30:18,400 --> 00:30:21,480 Speaker 1: It's you know, it's it's it's something where he's go. 653 00:30:21,680 --> 00:30:23,440 Speaker 1: He might get a touchdown and you're like, oh man, 654 00:30:23,640 --> 00:30:26,400 Speaker 1: you know, I wish I started him, But realistically he's 655 00:30:26,440 --> 00:30:29,360 Speaker 1: playing fifty to sixty percent of the snaps on pass 656 00:30:29,440 --> 00:30:32,240 Speaker 1: downs each week. He was fourth in routes this week, 657 00:30:32,280 --> 00:30:37,160 Speaker 1: behind you know, Watson and Judreu and uh and of 658 00:30:37,200 --> 00:30:39,920 Speaker 1: course Worthy had had a big game. So I just 659 00:30:39,960 --> 00:30:41,880 Speaker 1: don't think you can start him, even in the revenge 660 00:30:41,880 --> 00:30:46,760 Speaker 1: spot against the the Houston Texans. You know, he's still 661 00:30:46,840 --> 00:30:49,520 Speaker 1: ranked to the top thirty six in ECR, but his 662 00:30:49,640 --> 00:30:52,680 Speaker 1: snapcount has actually dropped, you know, recently, so he was 663 00:30:53,040 --> 00:30:56,320 Speaker 1: at first it looked like, okay, maybe they are easing 664 00:30:56,400 --> 00:30:59,640 Speaker 1: him in to the lineup, you know, coming off the trade. 665 00:31:00,040 --> 00:31:03,400 Speaker 1: But then if you look at his last few games, 666 00:31:03,680 --> 00:31:06,440 Speaker 1: he went from you know, he was at like forty 667 00:31:06,560 --> 00:31:08,640 Speaker 1: fifty five and fifty five percent you know a couple 668 00:31:08,800 --> 00:31:11,040 Speaker 1: four weeks ago, and then it was sixty five, sixty 669 00:31:11,040 --> 00:31:11,520 Speaker 1: five and then. 670 00:31:11,440 --> 00:31:12,280 Speaker 2: Down to fifty again. 671 00:31:12,360 --> 00:31:14,400 Speaker 1: So he's he it's you know, it's a Mario Cooper 672 00:31:14,400 --> 00:31:18,800 Speaker 1: all over again. He's just not clearing the threshold of 673 00:31:18,840 --> 00:31:21,200 Speaker 1: what a normal starting receiver would. He's barely a slot 674 00:31:21,280 --> 00:31:23,800 Speaker 1: receiver at this point at fifty, you know, fifty, he's 675 00:31:23,880 --> 00:31:25,800 Speaker 1: a slot receiver on a team that that he's like 676 00:31:25,840 --> 00:31:30,040 Speaker 1: Nelson Agilar in terms of in terms of usage, obviously 677 00:31:30,040 --> 00:31:32,120 Speaker 1: a much better player, but yeah, he's he's my wide 678 00:31:32,120 --> 00:31:35,440 Speaker 1: receiver forty nine. Yeah, if Pat Mahomes sits, if he's 679 00:31:35,480 --> 00:31:38,440 Speaker 1: if my Home's plays, he'll be a little higher, but 680 00:31:38,520 --> 00:31:39,960 Speaker 1: still not not in the top forty. 681 00:31:40,240 --> 00:31:42,400 Speaker 4: In a similar vein where do you have Maury Cooper? 682 00:31:42,640 --> 00:31:44,920 Speaker 2: Oh, that's happen. He's like, that's gonna be my proble. 683 00:31:45,040 --> 00:31:48,840 Speaker 1: Oh, because I remember it was a couple of weeks 684 00:31:48,840 --> 00:31:49,920 Speaker 1: ago you were a lower him, and it was like 685 00:31:50,080 --> 00:31:52,200 Speaker 1: it was then he had like fourteen targets, and then 686 00:31:52,240 --> 00:31:53,400 Speaker 1: we didn't mention last week. 687 00:31:53,880 --> 00:31:56,160 Speaker 2: Then last week he got no targets. So I think 688 00:31:56,200 --> 00:31:57,240 Speaker 2: you're on the right track. 689 00:31:58,160 --> 00:32:01,720 Speaker 4: Yeah, a couple of weeks early or you know, on 690 00:32:01,840 --> 00:32:03,320 Speaker 4: these things, but yeah, what do you got it? 691 00:32:03,960 --> 00:32:06,520 Speaker 1: It makes it tough because you know, they seem to 692 00:32:06,520 --> 00:32:08,920 Speaker 1: be kind of doing playing this little game where we 693 00:32:08,960 --> 00:32:10,720 Speaker 1: go one week, we're going to kind of use the 694 00:32:10,720 --> 00:32:11,480 Speaker 1: guy as a decoy. 695 00:32:11,680 --> 00:32:14,000 Speaker 2: We're not so Yeah, Marik. 696 00:32:13,800 --> 00:32:19,680 Speaker 1: Cooper receiving yards. Let's see and it's a potential blowout. Yeah, 697 00:32:19,680 --> 00:32:20,280 Speaker 1: this is tough. 698 00:32:21,600 --> 00:32:23,840 Speaker 2: Let's go thirty four and a half. 699 00:32:24,240 --> 00:32:28,600 Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm around there, I'll go I'll go under because 700 00:32:28,600 --> 00:32:31,000 Speaker 4: I feel like I'm being generous. I'm projecting him for 701 00:32:31,080 --> 00:32:34,520 Speaker 4: a fifty five percent routes run rate, which, yeah, that 702 00:32:34,640 --> 00:32:36,880 Speaker 4: seems a bit high. It was thirty five percent last week. 703 00:32:36,880 --> 00:32:39,800 Speaker 4: I think Kean Coleman really ate into that. I think 704 00:32:39,800 --> 00:32:43,800 Speaker 4: they just love mac Hollins, Like he's such a smart 705 00:32:43,840 --> 00:32:47,120 Speaker 4: football player, even if he's out the running winsprints, Like 706 00:32:47,200 --> 00:32:51,240 Speaker 4: he's gonna get his playing time. Yeah, Like Mary Cooper 707 00:32:51,280 --> 00:32:53,240 Speaker 4: is like a rich man's Deontay Johnson. 708 00:32:56,400 --> 00:32:58,280 Speaker 2: Man, it's in Yeah. 709 00:32:58,320 --> 00:33:00,920 Speaker 4: Speaking of which, Yeah, where the hell's going now? 710 00:33:02,200 --> 00:33:03,719 Speaker 2: Yeah? The team they just excused him. 711 00:33:03,760 --> 00:33:05,880 Speaker 1: They they essentially don't want him to get picked up 712 00:33:05,880 --> 00:33:08,560 Speaker 1: by anyone else. But they he's like, yo, you're too 713 00:33:08,760 --> 00:33:10,600 Speaker 1: It's like, uh, it's not me, it's you. Like you're 714 00:33:10,640 --> 00:33:13,640 Speaker 1: too good. Wow, el but not good enough for me. 715 00:33:14,600 --> 00:33:19,640 Speaker 4: That's that's crazy. They're just stashing him. Wow, Okay, yeah, yeah, 716 00:33:19,800 --> 00:33:23,640 Speaker 4: kind of a weird season for traded wide receivers. Yeah 717 00:33:23,760 --> 00:33:24,600 Speaker 4: and yeah. 718 00:33:24,400 --> 00:33:27,120 Speaker 1: And all these stashes, all these stashed players. 719 00:33:27,560 --> 00:33:29,360 Speaker 2: Where are we with Nick Chubb? Where are we with 720 00:33:29,480 --> 00:33:32,800 Speaker 2: the with uh what's his name? Brooks? 721 00:33:32,840 --> 00:33:37,360 Speaker 1: Like it's like these it's just yeah, it's gotta yeah, all, 722 00:33:37,560 --> 00:33:40,400 Speaker 1: it's just yeah, it's the guys who but I mean, hey, 723 00:33:40,480 --> 00:33:42,400 Speaker 1: Jane Reed also didn't catch a past two weeks ago, 724 00:33:42,600 --> 00:33:47,600 Speaker 1: So Cooper Cooper last week January, the week before weird 725 00:33:47,760 --> 00:33:50,440 Speaker 1: weird season. Before we move on, a quick word from 726 00:33:50,440 --> 00:33:54,719 Speaker 1: our friends that Hello Fresh. 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So 751 00:34:58,239 --> 00:35:01,040 Speaker 4: I do find it like therapeutic to take time off 752 00:35:01,120 --> 00:35:03,920 Speaker 4: looking at routes, run data and you know, target sharing 753 00:35:03,960 --> 00:35:06,600 Speaker 4: things like that to actually make my food. And you know, 754 00:35:06,640 --> 00:35:10,120 Speaker 4: they're step by step instructions, make it easier than playing 755 00:35:10,120 --> 00:35:13,080 Speaker 4: Brian Thomas Junior in DFS anytime he's under five K. 756 00:35:13,200 --> 00:35:14,040 Speaker 5: So I love it. 757 00:35:14,320 --> 00:35:15,040 Speaker 2: Yeah. There you go. 758 00:35:15,200 --> 00:35:20,760 Speaker 1: Get ten free meals at HelloFresh dot com slash free Flex. 759 00:35:20,800 --> 00:35:25,720 Speaker 1: That's HelloFresh dot Com slash free Flex supplied across seven 760 00:35:25,760 --> 00:35:29,520 Speaker 1: boxes new subscribers only, varies by plan. 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George Kittle, Brock Bauers, 769 00:35:58,480 --> 00:35:59,480 Speaker 4: and Travis Kelcey. 770 00:36:00,880 --> 00:36:04,720 Speaker 1: Yeah, I got Bowers, mcgrid, Kittle, Kelsey and Laporta jumps 771 00:36:04,760 --> 00:36:07,840 Speaker 1: into my top five. Must be that all those Montgomery 772 00:36:07,840 --> 00:36:11,120 Speaker 1: receptions he was just hogging the pass catching work nowhere. 773 00:36:11,239 --> 00:36:11,840 Speaker 5: Yeah, now he's up. 774 00:36:11,840 --> 00:36:13,239 Speaker 1: But yeah, I got John Who number six. I was 775 00:36:13,280 --> 00:36:15,480 Speaker 1: I had him number five last week. I just don't 776 00:36:15,520 --> 00:36:17,680 Speaker 1: like this. There's little total in this game. Is just 777 00:36:18,000 --> 00:36:20,240 Speaker 1: I got to look a little more into it. It's 778 00:36:20,280 --> 00:36:23,800 Speaker 1: Tuesday as we record this. But you know, if Waddle's 779 00:36:23,800 --> 00:36:25,920 Speaker 1: out that I think John Who definitely jumps into the 780 00:36:25,920 --> 00:36:28,840 Speaker 1: top five, assuming there's no weather something else that's going 781 00:36:28,920 --> 00:36:29,839 Speaker 1: to creep up on us. 782 00:36:29,960 --> 00:36:31,560 Speaker 2: Who are you high on at tight end? 783 00:36:32,320 --> 00:36:34,600 Speaker 4: I mean the guy you're talking about I'm high on 784 00:36:34,680 --> 00:36:38,480 Speaker 4: as well. But I'll go with ky dott In here. 785 00:36:39,320 --> 00:36:42,760 Speaker 4: You know he's coming off dud two catches twenty four yards. 786 00:36:43,360 --> 00:36:46,000 Speaker 4: He's definitely taken a hit, you know since Mike Evans return, 787 00:36:46,239 --> 00:36:49,560 Speaker 4: which was you know expected, But he's still seeing his 788 00:36:49,640 --> 00:36:53,680 Speaker 4: patented massive playing time averaging you know, ninety percent reutturn rate. 789 00:36:53,760 --> 00:36:56,160 Speaker 4: So I think we should start to see his targets 790 00:36:57,040 --> 00:36:59,200 Speaker 4: bounce back at some point, could be this week, so 791 00:37:00,400 --> 00:37:02,880 Speaker 4: you know, he's back inside my top twelve. He's my 792 00:37:02,920 --> 00:37:04,800 Speaker 4: tight end eleven. I think he's here, has him around 793 00:37:04,800 --> 00:37:07,239 Speaker 4: like tight end fifteen sixteen. I think if you've been 794 00:37:07,800 --> 00:37:10,760 Speaker 4: relying on him, you know ever since you know, Evans 795 00:37:10,760 --> 00:37:13,279 Speaker 4: and Godwin went down, I think this week, you know, 796 00:37:13,600 --> 00:37:15,719 Speaker 4: he's still a low end tight end one, so I'm 797 00:37:15,719 --> 00:37:17,520 Speaker 4: sticking with him. I think the targets are going to 798 00:37:17,560 --> 00:37:20,760 Speaker 4: start to bounce back here, so give me Kate Otton. 799 00:37:21,480 --> 00:37:22,680 Speaker 5: Still inside my top twelve. 800 00:37:23,280 --> 00:37:25,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, I think I'll have my tight end eight. So 801 00:37:25,239 --> 00:37:27,719 Speaker 1: he's going pretty high on my list too. But I 802 00:37:27,719 --> 00:37:29,839 Speaker 1: gotta go with Brenton Strange here. I've was the top 803 00:37:29,880 --> 00:37:33,000 Speaker 1: tight top ten tight end and you know it's just 804 00:37:33,040 --> 00:37:34,919 Speaker 1: that time of the year where a lot of guys 805 00:37:34,920 --> 00:37:37,400 Speaker 1: are sitting out. One of them is Evan Ingram Strange 806 00:37:37,440 --> 00:37:39,960 Speaker 1: got his full compliment of snaps that Ingram would get 807 00:37:39,960 --> 00:37:43,120 Speaker 1: eighty five percent route rate caught eleven balls and mac 808 00:37:43,200 --> 00:37:45,879 Speaker 1: Jones he hasn't been accurate down the field, so he's 809 00:37:45,880 --> 00:37:48,040 Speaker 1: had to kind of just throw a lot of underneath 810 00:37:48,040 --> 00:37:49,600 Speaker 1: passes to get the team up and down the field. 811 00:37:49,680 --> 00:37:54,600 Speaker 1: But that equals a lot of catches for PPR pass catchers. 812 00:37:54,640 --> 00:37:56,759 Speaker 1: He had Thomas with eleven, I mean Thomas with ten, 813 00:37:56,800 --> 00:37:59,600 Speaker 1: excuse me, Strange with eleven, and I think that's a 814 00:37:59,640 --> 00:38:02,880 Speaker 1: trend that continue. The Raiders are twenty sixth in DVOA 815 00:38:03,080 --> 00:38:07,239 Speaker 1: against opposing tight end, so I like Brenton Strange this 816 00:38:07,280 --> 00:38:09,839 Speaker 1: week if you need, if you're desperate for a tight end. 817 00:38:10,320 --> 00:38:13,880 Speaker 4: Yeah, that stat line probably won't duplicate that rest of 818 00:38:13,880 --> 00:38:17,120 Speaker 4: the season, but the underlying usage fully supports it. And 819 00:38:17,160 --> 00:38:20,600 Speaker 4: I think one of the encouraging things is Josh Reynolds 820 00:38:20,600 --> 00:38:23,840 Speaker 4: is starting to get a lot more playing time, who 821 00:38:24,080 --> 00:38:25,920 Speaker 4: is kind of just out there in the Gabe Davis 822 00:38:26,000 --> 00:38:28,239 Speaker 4: role just running win sprints, which will just funnel more 823 00:38:28,280 --> 00:38:32,279 Speaker 4: targets to Brian Thomas Junior and Brenton Strange. So that 824 00:38:32,320 --> 00:38:34,320 Speaker 4: was an encouraging thing to see in my opinion. 825 00:38:35,160 --> 00:38:37,799 Speaker 2: Yeah, definitely all right, Who are you low on at 826 00:38:37,840 --> 00:38:38,239 Speaker 2: tight end? 827 00:38:39,040 --> 00:38:40,040 Speaker 5: Grant Calcaterra. 828 00:38:40,840 --> 00:38:43,440 Speaker 4: You know, he has been a one for one replacement 829 00:38:43,480 --> 00:38:45,799 Speaker 4: for Dallas Godder, at least in terms of playing time. 830 00:38:45,840 --> 00:38:49,279 Speaker 4: He's actually seeing more playing time than god or more 831 00:38:49,360 --> 00:38:52,600 Speaker 4: routes run. You know, he's he's up there in the 832 00:38:52,719 --> 00:38:55,880 Speaker 4: ninety to ninety five percent routes run range. 833 00:38:56,440 --> 00:38:57,759 Speaker 5: He's just not seeing targets. 834 00:38:57,880 --> 00:39:02,280 Speaker 4: This is just a very top heavy passing attack without 835 00:39:02,360 --> 00:39:05,160 Speaker 4: Dallas Goddard. Where you know, Jalen Hurts is looking for 836 00:39:05,239 --> 00:39:09,080 Speaker 4: either a j. Brown or Davante Smith if neither is open. Hell, 837 00:39:09,160 --> 00:39:11,759 Speaker 4: even if they are, he's looking to either dump it 838 00:39:11,800 --> 00:39:15,200 Speaker 4: off to take on Barkley or scramble. He's just not 839 00:39:15,320 --> 00:39:20,640 Speaker 4: looking to throw to Calcutra at any point. So, you know, 840 00:39:20,800 --> 00:39:22,920 Speaker 4: Calculata is a guy I thought had kind of sneaky 841 00:39:23,640 --> 00:39:26,000 Speaker 4: streamer potential, but it's just not there. 842 00:39:26,080 --> 00:39:27,480 Speaker 5: So he is definitely droppable. 843 00:39:27,560 --> 00:39:31,280 Speaker 4: And I'm very low on Calcultara going forward. 844 00:39:31,520 --> 00:39:39,880 Speaker 1: Yeah, I am low on Mark Andrews. He's the h. 845 00:39:42,520 --> 00:39:42,759 Speaker 5: I was. 846 00:39:42,880 --> 00:39:45,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, he's so the thing about it, you know, he 847 00:39:45,520 --> 00:39:47,160 Speaker 2: got he got the touchdown record. 848 00:39:46,960 --> 00:39:51,560 Speaker 1: For the Ravens or whatever, and you know he's still 849 00:39:51,640 --> 00:39:55,879 Speaker 1: kind of splitting his routes with like we and your 850 00:39:55,920 --> 00:39:59,560 Speaker 1: six point favorite divisional game Mark Lamar Jackson has to 851 00:39:59,560 --> 00:40:02,040 Speaker 1: struggle a little bit more than usual against the Steelers 852 00:40:02,080 --> 00:40:05,239 Speaker 1: defense compared to other defenses. So you know, I just 853 00:40:05,320 --> 00:40:07,200 Speaker 1: you know, tight end seven, he's not tight in fourteen. 854 00:40:07,200 --> 00:40:10,279 Speaker 1: He's so he's you know, fringe, fringe starter. You know, 855 00:40:10,320 --> 00:40:12,560 Speaker 1: if he's your only guy, it's between him, Like I 856 00:40:12,560 --> 00:40:14,000 Speaker 1: would still try to see if you can get Brent 857 00:40:14,080 --> 00:40:18,480 Speaker 1: Strange first before I just locked Andrews in because you 858 00:40:18,520 --> 00:40:20,600 Speaker 1: know what, you know, he got two catches last week, right, 859 00:40:20,600 --> 00:40:22,640 Speaker 1: it was two for twenty four in a touchdown touchdown. 860 00:40:22,640 --> 00:40:24,839 Speaker 1: He's always liable to get two catches in the game 861 00:40:24,880 --> 00:40:27,600 Speaker 1: because he's not running you know, the full route rate 862 00:40:27,640 --> 00:40:30,959 Speaker 1: that he was early in his careers. And this Ravens team, 863 00:40:31,080 --> 00:40:33,719 Speaker 1: you just, you know, they're very good, so they could 864 00:40:33,800 --> 00:40:36,200 Speaker 1: vote somebody out at any time, which you know, if 865 00:40:36,200 --> 00:40:38,879 Speaker 1: he's at the guy scoring the touchdowns early, could hurt him. 866 00:40:38,960 --> 00:40:41,080 Speaker 1: But he's also just not getting as many routes or 867 00:40:41,080 --> 00:40:43,760 Speaker 1: targets as he was early in his career. So yeah, 868 00:40:43,800 --> 00:40:47,200 Speaker 1: it's I think, you know, top seven, top eight, way 869 00:40:47,239 --> 00:40:47,720 Speaker 1: too high. 870 00:40:47,960 --> 00:40:50,040 Speaker 2: Fringe fringe tight end one for me? 871 00:40:50,080 --> 00:40:52,200 Speaker 1: Who I would prefer somebody with a bit of a 872 00:40:52,239 --> 00:40:55,279 Speaker 1: higher floor this week, which you got for the. 873 00:40:55,400 --> 00:41:01,239 Speaker 4: Prop Brenton Strange total receiving yards over under forty and 874 00:41:01,280 --> 00:41:03,240 Speaker 4: a half sounds. 875 00:41:04,120 --> 00:41:05,839 Speaker 2: What do I have him? Let's see, I have him 876 00:41:05,840 --> 00:41:09,000 Speaker 2: at I have him right at right right right of 877 00:41:09,120 --> 00:41:13,560 Speaker 2: forty raiders. I'll go over, I'll go over. 878 00:41:14,080 --> 00:41:16,359 Speaker 1: I'll probably be adjusting him up a little bit because, uh, 879 00:41:16,880 --> 00:41:19,239 Speaker 1: you gotta look at mac Jones in their pass rate. 880 00:41:19,320 --> 00:41:20,680 Speaker 2: They've been been throwing the ball. 881 00:41:21,080 --> 00:41:22,640 Speaker 1: First couple of games, they didn't really throw the ball 882 00:41:22,640 --> 00:41:24,480 Speaker 1: as much as mac Jones, but you've been throwing a 883 00:41:24,480 --> 00:41:24,759 Speaker 1: lot more. 884 00:41:24,760 --> 00:41:26,000 Speaker 2: So, Yeah, I'm gonna go over. I don't want to 885 00:41:26,000 --> 00:41:27,160 Speaker 2: be under on that. 886 00:41:28,080 --> 00:41:31,000 Speaker 4: Yeah, that's probably what has probably anytime you see a 887 00:41:31,000 --> 00:41:33,840 Speaker 4: tight end with his prop over forty yards, that's a 888 00:41:33,880 --> 00:41:34,600 Speaker 4: big boy line. 889 00:41:34,600 --> 00:41:36,440 Speaker 5: That's yep, top ten status. 890 00:41:36,560 --> 00:41:40,080 Speaker 4: Really, if you're projecting a tight end their median to 891 00:41:40,160 --> 00:41:43,400 Speaker 4: be over forty yards, that that is a good sign. 892 00:41:44,160 --> 00:41:47,000 Speaker 1: Essentially, that's a sentially respective for like five catches at 893 00:41:47,040 --> 00:41:50,040 Speaker 1: least five catch because you know around ten yards of catch, 894 00:41:50,080 --> 00:41:52,440 Speaker 1: you say so four four, you get to forty on 895 00:41:52,480 --> 00:41:54,880 Speaker 1: the dot most tight ends, but anything else, Yeah. 896 00:41:54,760 --> 00:41:57,920 Speaker 2: What you get over that? Yep, all right, that's gonna 897 00:41:57,920 --> 00:41:58,120 Speaker 2: do it. 898 00:41:58,160 --> 00:42:00,560 Speaker 1: For Week sixteen, player projections up, so it'd be sure 899 00:42:00,560 --> 00:42:02,799 Speaker 1: to subscribe to the Fantasy Flex Pod so you don't 900 00:42:02,840 --> 00:42:05,480 Speaker 1: miss the episode. We're still coming back the rest of 901 00:42:05,480 --> 00:42:07,800 Speaker 1: the season. We got the We'll have a Christmas special 902 00:42:08,239 --> 00:42:10,960 Speaker 1: DFS episode next week and then our normal line up 903 00:42:10,960 --> 00:42:14,960 Speaker 1: with projections and rest of the DFS suit. 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