1 00:00:04,080 --> 00:00:07,440 Speaker 1: He's the Drive with Dale Lolly and Matt Williamson on 2 00:00:07,560 --> 00:00:12,520 Speaker 1: your home of the Black and Gold Steelers Nation Radio. 3 00:00:16,560 --> 00:00:19,160 Speaker 1: Welcome to the Drive. I'm Dale Lolly here with Matt 4 00:00:19,160 --> 00:00:25,640 Speaker 1: Williamson and his Thursday Steelers giving the second practice him today. Um, 5 00:00:25,640 --> 00:00:31,680 Speaker 1: getting ready to to go play the Yeah, fine Arab chargers. Ay, 6 00:00:31,760 --> 00:00:34,600 Speaker 1: see what's up? You don't know that one? This is 7 00:00:34,640 --> 00:00:38,479 Speaker 1: two days in a row. You're throwing old man references, 8 00:00:38,560 --> 00:00:42,239 Speaker 1: rolling stones, emotional rescue, running across the desert on a 9 00:00:42,240 --> 00:00:45,880 Speaker 1: fine Arab charger. Okay, now I got you know that one? Okay, 10 00:00:45,880 --> 00:00:48,680 Speaker 1: all right? I mean stones discally tune and a lot 11 00:00:48,680 --> 00:00:51,760 Speaker 1: of people don't. Not one of their finest. Fair enough 12 00:00:51,960 --> 00:00:56,400 Speaker 1: right anyway, So steel is getting that second practice, and 13 00:00:56,520 --> 00:00:59,120 Speaker 1: we already have an injury report from now start there, 14 00:00:59,240 --> 00:01:02,080 Speaker 1: Chase Claypool Limited again today. Steelers had to move inside 15 00:01:02,080 --> 00:01:05,479 Speaker 1: today because of the inclement weather. Joe Hayden not practicing 16 00:01:05,520 --> 00:01:08,559 Speaker 1: again today. That uh, no surprise here, but try Turner 17 00:01:08,640 --> 00:01:12,960 Speaker 1: was back. Okay, good, that was question. Ye. Cam Hayward 18 00:01:13,000 --> 00:01:16,720 Speaker 1: was back. Uh also not practicing, Kevin Dotson, T. J. Watt, 19 00:01:17,319 --> 00:01:21,000 Speaker 1: No surprises really really there? Uh? Cam Hayward back is 20 00:01:21,040 --> 00:01:22,880 Speaker 1: I think I said as a full that was a 21 00:01:22,880 --> 00:01:26,000 Speaker 1: coach's decision yesterday and no big deal there. But Isaiah 22 00:01:26,000 --> 00:01:29,040 Speaker 1: louder Milk was a limited participant today he's dealing with 23 00:01:29,080 --> 00:01:32,040 Speaker 1: a little bit of a groin injury. Shockingly enough, right, 24 00:01:32,080 --> 00:01:34,959 Speaker 1: that's the trend. But they did get some good news 25 00:01:35,000 --> 00:01:37,920 Speaker 1: on that front in that they started the clock rolling 26 00:01:37,920 --> 00:01:40,640 Speaker 1: on Carlos Davis. Yeah I heard that too. Um, you know, 27 00:01:40,680 --> 00:01:43,320 Speaker 1: so maybe if you one more body, and yeah, if 28 00:01:43,360 --> 00:01:45,319 Speaker 1: all of a sudden louder Milk is not, you know, 29 00:01:45,360 --> 00:01:48,280 Speaker 1: able to play, maybe say Davis looks pretty good in practice, 30 00:01:48,480 --> 00:01:51,240 Speaker 1: fired him up. Yeah, at least he's fresh and adding 31 00:01:51,360 --> 00:01:53,440 Speaker 1: the equation, and he's got talent. I mean, he's an 32 00:01:53,440 --> 00:01:57,160 Speaker 1: athletic guy. Who. Yeah, I've been kind of impressed with 33 00:01:57,160 --> 00:01:59,160 Speaker 1: louder Milk though. I mean, he's different than those other 34 00:01:59,200 --> 00:02:01,960 Speaker 1: guys to me so long, and I think he's a 35 00:02:02,000 --> 00:02:07,160 Speaker 1: better natural pass rusher than Davis and bugs. Um. But yeah, 36 00:02:07,320 --> 00:02:09,160 Speaker 1: I think all those guys have a pretty bright future, 37 00:02:09,200 --> 00:02:11,280 Speaker 1: and it's which the future was now for them. I mean, 38 00:02:11,320 --> 00:02:14,520 Speaker 1: they're all playing more snaps than they should collectively. I 39 00:02:14,520 --> 00:02:16,040 Speaker 1: mean we talked about this all the time. I mean 40 00:02:16,080 --> 00:02:19,880 Speaker 1: the d Lineman not named Cam are problems right now 41 00:02:19,880 --> 00:02:22,000 Speaker 1: and they're just kind of yeah, I won't say in 42 00:02:22,120 --> 00:02:24,520 Speaker 1: over their head, but you know, doing more than what 43 00:02:24,600 --> 00:02:26,560 Speaker 1: was planned for them, I guess is the best way 44 00:02:26,560 --> 00:02:30,480 Speaker 1: to phrase that. Um it sounds just by your tone 45 00:02:30,520 --> 00:02:34,440 Speaker 1: and our chats the last couple of days Hayden and 46 00:02:35,240 --> 00:02:39,839 Speaker 1: Dots and are the ones and what is what's still 47 00:02:39,880 --> 00:02:42,239 Speaker 1: doing a better chance of those two? Yeah, he's doing 48 00:02:42,320 --> 00:02:45,519 Speaker 1: some stuff. Yeah, Okay, he's doing some stuff. We'll see 49 00:02:45,600 --> 00:02:49,000 Speaker 1: with that one. Um, yeah, that would be massive. One 50 00:02:49,040 --> 00:02:52,600 Speaker 1: thing I did a call with the Steelers with PURSUITA 51 00:02:52,680 --> 00:02:55,720 Speaker 1: and Wolf and Modes today and it was one angle 52 00:02:55,760 --> 00:02:58,360 Speaker 1: I hadn't thought about with chatting with those guys is 53 00:02:59,080 --> 00:03:02,920 Speaker 1: I went back and watched Chargers Bikes and Chargers really 54 00:03:03,000 --> 00:03:05,880 Speaker 1: struggled with Blitz and I know Zimmer is a handful 55 00:03:06,560 --> 00:03:09,680 Speaker 1: and you would think this Chargers O line is fixed. 56 00:03:09,720 --> 00:03:11,520 Speaker 1: You know, they spent so much money in a first 57 00:03:11,600 --> 00:03:14,200 Speaker 1: round pick, but they're not really jelling as much as 58 00:03:14,200 --> 00:03:16,160 Speaker 1: you think. I mean, they brought in those three starters 59 00:03:16,160 --> 00:03:18,280 Speaker 1: and then the other two guys haven't played that much. 60 00:03:18,320 --> 00:03:20,600 Speaker 1: You know, they're they're kind of like the Steelers D 61 00:03:20,720 --> 00:03:23,800 Speaker 1: Lineman in a way that they're a little new to 62 00:03:23,840 --> 00:03:28,680 Speaker 1: this inexperience, not super high pedigree guys. So their communication 63 00:03:28,800 --> 00:03:32,000 Speaker 1: on blitz has been kind of suspect. Would you blitz 64 00:03:32,080 --> 00:03:34,920 Speaker 1: Herbert Heavier? I mean, the Steelers have not had the blitz? 65 00:03:35,640 --> 00:03:38,040 Speaker 1: And where I'm going with this is, well, what if 66 00:03:38,040 --> 00:03:41,120 Speaker 1: Watt's out in particular because the right tackles a real 67 00:03:41,120 --> 00:03:44,600 Speaker 1: problem and what would probably eat him alive? But boy, 68 00:03:44,640 --> 00:03:47,320 Speaker 1: I'd sure like to have Minka if I'm blitz and heavy. 69 00:03:47,720 --> 00:03:50,120 Speaker 1: You know, they blitz Terrell Evans a little bit more 70 00:03:50,160 --> 00:03:52,960 Speaker 1: of late, he had a sacked class game. I think 71 00:03:52,960 --> 00:03:54,880 Speaker 1: if you're gonna play him in the box, that makes 72 00:03:54,880 --> 00:03:57,480 Speaker 1: some sense, you know, because he is fast and and 73 00:03:57,720 --> 00:04:00,600 Speaker 1: you know can get through the shift through the check. Yeah, 74 00:04:00,920 --> 00:04:03,880 Speaker 1: there's there's definitely that, So yeah, I do think maybe 75 00:04:03,880 --> 00:04:06,720 Speaker 1: you go that direction with that. I think, you know, 76 00:04:06,800 --> 00:04:09,120 Speaker 1: there might be some instances where you see Karl Joseph 77 00:04:09,200 --> 00:04:11,960 Speaker 1: out there. He can do that as well. Um, you know, 78 00:04:12,000 --> 00:04:15,200 Speaker 1: so they have some possibilities there. Bush and Showbird are 79 00:04:15,200 --> 00:04:19,200 Speaker 1: both all those guys have shown close right, so they're 80 00:04:19,200 --> 00:04:21,960 Speaker 1: on natural pass rushers, but they can close and hit 81 00:04:22,000 --> 00:04:24,599 Speaker 1: gaps and all those type of things. The thing is, 82 00:04:24,640 --> 00:04:27,440 Speaker 1: I mean, like I mentioned that the Chargers blitz pick 83 00:04:27,560 --> 00:04:31,440 Speaker 1: up has been a little questionable, but they don't they're 84 00:04:31,480 --> 00:04:33,320 Speaker 1: not pushing the ball down the field right, And then 85 00:04:33,600 --> 00:04:36,320 Speaker 1: maybe that goes hand in hand. Maybe they were getting 86 00:04:36,320 --> 00:04:38,440 Speaker 1: blitzed a lot early in the season. Like we're struggling 87 00:04:38,480 --> 00:04:40,680 Speaker 1: with this. We gotta go he's getting hit too much. 88 00:04:40,680 --> 00:04:42,280 Speaker 1: We gotta go to something a little more. Get the 89 00:04:42,279 --> 00:04:44,039 Speaker 1: ball out of his hands quickly. Right, Where have you 90 00:04:44,080 --> 00:04:46,599 Speaker 1: heard that before? Exactly? Exactly? I would say it's sort 91 00:04:46,600 --> 00:04:48,720 Speaker 1: of looking similar. I mean, and if if the balls 92 00:04:48,720 --> 00:04:50,560 Speaker 1: have come out super fast, you don't want to blitz it. 93 00:04:50,600 --> 00:04:52,680 Speaker 1: You want to tackle the catch, disrupt throw or if 94 00:04:52,720 --> 00:04:54,240 Speaker 1: I mean you want to force the ball where you 95 00:04:54,279 --> 00:04:58,160 Speaker 1: wanted to go to the right, Okay, you want to 96 00:04:58,240 --> 00:05:00,040 Speaker 1: you want to try to funnel everything the Keen and 97 00:05:00,080 --> 00:05:03,560 Speaker 1: Allen we can did you blitz from wherever? Keenan Allen? 98 00:05:03,640 --> 00:05:05,039 Speaker 1: Is not to kind of force the ball to go 99 00:05:05,160 --> 00:05:08,320 Speaker 1: somewhere else, because typically the first read for a quarterback 100 00:05:08,520 --> 00:05:11,839 Speaker 1: is to throw at the blitz. Sure, sure that makes 101 00:05:11,839 --> 00:05:13,880 Speaker 1: some sense. You know, if you're especially we're bringing this 102 00:05:13,960 --> 00:05:16,040 Speaker 1: lot corners and things like that, you know, I mean, 103 00:05:16,080 --> 00:05:18,600 Speaker 1: so I thought that was one angle. It was interesting 104 00:05:18,640 --> 00:05:20,560 Speaker 1: and a lot of it. To me, it will depend 105 00:05:20,600 --> 00:05:23,400 Speaker 1: on if what plays or not. Um with a lot 106 00:05:23,440 --> 00:05:26,279 Speaker 1: of plays, I don't think he blitz you can you 107 00:05:26,320 --> 00:05:29,640 Speaker 1: can get there with four right, Um high Smith needs 108 00:05:29,680 --> 00:05:31,360 Speaker 1: to win someone on ones and he's got it tough. 109 00:05:31,480 --> 00:05:34,599 Speaker 1: You know, it's interesting. I I kind of asked. We 110 00:05:34,640 --> 00:05:37,840 Speaker 1: talked to Keith Butler today, both coordinators spoke today, right 111 00:05:37,880 --> 00:05:39,960 Speaker 1: and yeah, he was talking about high Smith and we 112 00:05:39,960 --> 00:05:41,679 Speaker 1: were on a zoom call, so you're kind of limited 113 00:05:42,320 --> 00:05:44,240 Speaker 1: with the feedback and the follow ups and that kind 114 00:05:44,240 --> 00:05:47,119 Speaker 1: of stuff, and so he was talking about high Smith 115 00:05:47,160 --> 00:05:49,880 Speaker 1: and how how well high Smith is playing and how 116 00:05:49,920 --> 00:05:53,279 Speaker 1: he's really happy with high Smith. And I'm like, Keith, 117 00:05:53,839 --> 00:05:58,320 Speaker 1: is is this a situation where t J. Watt is 118 00:05:58,360 --> 00:06:02,039 Speaker 1: so good and gets to the quarterback so quickly that 119 00:06:02,160 --> 00:06:04,640 Speaker 1: other guys aren't getting that you think might have gotten 120 00:06:04,640 --> 00:06:09,919 Speaker 1: there as a good question, Yeah, you know, and I 121 00:06:09,960 --> 00:06:13,159 Speaker 1: think there might be a little something to that that. Okay, 122 00:06:14,160 --> 00:06:16,320 Speaker 1: I remember talking about it with Steff onto It, you know, 123 00:06:16,320 --> 00:06:18,240 Speaker 1: when I used to host the stuff on to its show, 124 00:06:18,279 --> 00:06:20,240 Speaker 1: and he would talk about, you know, how close he 125 00:06:20,320 --> 00:06:22,279 Speaker 1: is to getting sacks and he was always the second 126 00:06:22,279 --> 00:06:25,279 Speaker 1: guy there, second guy there, which is a great problem 127 00:06:25,279 --> 00:06:28,120 Speaker 1: to have, right, Yeah, if somebody's beating you to the football, 128 00:06:28,160 --> 00:06:30,240 Speaker 1: well now you don't have that. The other thing, there's 129 00:06:30,279 --> 00:06:31,839 Speaker 1: a couple of things that make note of this week. 130 00:06:31,880 --> 00:06:33,960 Speaker 1: I don't know if you saw this one Earlier in 131 00:06:34,000 --> 00:06:38,800 Speaker 1: the week. Warren Sap did not see this, Okay. He 132 00:06:38,880 --> 00:06:42,760 Speaker 1: puts out a little post on Twitter talking about there 133 00:06:42,839 --> 00:06:45,080 Speaker 1: was a preview that of course they're talking during the 134 00:06:45,120 --> 00:06:48,400 Speaker 1: Sunday night game. They preview the following week Sunday, So 135 00:06:48,440 --> 00:06:51,160 Speaker 1: they put out the chiron with the chiron is the 136 00:06:51,200 --> 00:06:54,760 Speaker 1: little graphic and TV talk the chiron with the next 137 00:06:54,800 --> 00:06:56,880 Speaker 1: week's game on it, and they have Justin Herbert and 138 00:06:56,960 --> 00:07:02,200 Speaker 1: Cam Heyward on there, okay, And Warren Sapp puts out 139 00:07:02,200 --> 00:07:07,599 Speaker 1: a little thing it says, who's this nine seven? Really? Well, okay, 140 00:07:07,720 --> 00:07:10,760 Speaker 1: this is the story he could continues here. So he 141 00:07:10,800 --> 00:07:13,440 Speaker 1: tweets that out. Hayward gets wind of it and they 142 00:07:13,640 --> 00:07:15,200 Speaker 1: have a little back and forth, not a lot, but 143 00:07:15,280 --> 00:07:16,760 Speaker 1: a little bit, and of course a lot of people 144 00:07:16,840 --> 00:07:20,760 Speaker 1: were you know, so Heyward obviously saw this, right. Who 145 00:07:20,800 --> 00:07:26,040 Speaker 1: did Warren Sapp play for? At one point in his career, Dungee, 146 00:07:26,240 --> 00:07:30,400 Speaker 1: and who was on that staff Tomlin? And yes, so 147 00:07:30,520 --> 00:07:34,440 Speaker 1: Mike Tomlin. Those weren't Sap pretty well, I would assume. So. Yeah, 148 00:07:34,560 --> 00:07:38,720 Speaker 1: In fact, I've learned over the years that if you 149 00:07:38,800 --> 00:07:41,760 Speaker 1: remember back in two thousand eleven, Warren Sapp put out 150 00:07:41,840 --> 00:07:45,320 Speaker 1: the old tired done quote about the Steelers when he 151 00:07:45,360 --> 00:07:48,160 Speaker 1: was on inside the NFL. Remember that, right, that was 152 00:07:48,240 --> 00:07:50,320 Speaker 1: done with a little bit of prodding from a certain 153 00:07:50,640 --> 00:07:54,160 Speaker 1: you think it kind of comes from within, just motivational motivation, 154 00:07:54,200 --> 00:07:57,760 Speaker 1: like he Cam, we may not have t J this week. Cam, 155 00:07:57,800 --> 00:08:00,400 Speaker 1: we need your a plus place. We need yeah here. 156 00:08:00,480 --> 00:08:02,680 Speaker 1: So Warren, what don't you put this little tweet out 157 00:08:02,680 --> 00:08:04,280 Speaker 1: there about Cam and see what to see if you 158 00:08:04,280 --> 00:08:06,000 Speaker 1: can poke the bear a little bit, Not like the 159 00:08:06,000 --> 00:08:08,320 Speaker 1: bear needs a fire under him. He plays with great 160 00:08:08,320 --> 00:08:10,400 Speaker 1: fire all the time, but a little more. Cam was 161 00:08:10,440 --> 00:08:12,040 Speaker 1: asked about it this morning and he just kind of 162 00:08:12,080 --> 00:08:14,960 Speaker 1: got a big grin on his face like I saw it, 163 00:08:15,760 --> 00:08:19,200 Speaker 1: Like no, no, I don't know Warren Sap at all, 164 00:08:19,240 --> 00:08:21,560 Speaker 1: but yeah, I saw it. And we don't have any 165 00:08:21,640 --> 00:08:25,480 Speaker 1: kind of relationship, but I know who has a relationship 166 00:08:25,560 --> 00:08:30,360 Speaker 1: with Warren Sapp. So just a little feel on the 167 00:08:29,920 --> 00:08:32,840 Speaker 1: front of the gate like Tom and pushing the buttons 168 00:08:32,840 --> 00:08:35,679 Speaker 1: a little bit more there. But it wasn't malicious, sir. 169 00:08:35,880 --> 00:08:37,839 Speaker 1: You know this guy stakes, sir, you know that kind 170 00:08:37,840 --> 00:08:40,199 Speaker 1: of stuff. But yeah, interesting, but yeah, I mean you 171 00:08:40,240 --> 00:08:43,240 Speaker 1: know what Butler is talking about high Smith and saying, 172 00:08:43,320 --> 00:08:46,200 Speaker 1: you know, look, we think he's playing pretty well. I 173 00:08:46,280 --> 00:08:50,079 Speaker 1: certainly think he's run defense has been an underreported positive, 174 00:08:50,200 --> 00:08:51,679 Speaker 1: you know. I mean that people aren't running in to 175 00:08:51,800 --> 00:08:54,080 Speaker 1: his edge with a lot of success, and when they do, 176 00:08:54,160 --> 00:08:57,000 Speaker 1: he's getting tackles in the in the backfield exactly. And 177 00:08:57,040 --> 00:08:58,880 Speaker 1: I know the sack numbers haven't been there one and 178 00:08:58,920 --> 00:09:02,200 Speaker 1: a half sacks both verse Seattle. He's been a little 179 00:09:02,280 --> 00:09:04,559 Speaker 1: quiet with the pass rush. To me, I mean, I 180 00:09:04,600 --> 00:09:08,040 Speaker 1: don't have a problem with him. I don't suggesting. Yeah, 181 00:09:08,080 --> 00:09:10,640 Speaker 1: he's not a starting player, he's not a foundational player. 182 00:09:10,720 --> 00:09:13,400 Speaker 1: For him surprises me a little bit. The coach Butts 183 00:09:13,400 --> 00:09:15,800 Speaker 1: would be like, yeah, yeah, we're throwing to him. He's 184 00:09:15,800 --> 00:09:18,360 Speaker 1: playing in his mind. You know. However, he's playing really well. 185 00:09:18,400 --> 00:09:21,480 Speaker 1: We're really happy how he's playing. Yeah, I mean, he 186 00:09:22,120 --> 00:09:23,560 Speaker 1: he needs to have a big one though, because boy, 187 00:09:23,559 --> 00:09:26,160 Speaker 1: he's got a tough matchup against later if people don't know, 188 00:09:26,800 --> 00:09:30,400 Speaker 1: go watch later this year. He's really really impressive. Um, 189 00:09:30,440 --> 00:09:32,640 Speaker 1: if you look at the quarterback hit numbers this year, 190 00:09:32,720 --> 00:09:35,960 Speaker 1: high Smith does have seven quarterback hits, so he's you 191 00:09:35,960 --> 00:09:39,640 Speaker 1: know that Wad has twenty, he's on his own planet, alright, 192 00:09:39,760 --> 00:09:42,920 Speaker 1: Hayward has ten, and then you have Highsmith with seven. Okay, 193 00:09:43,040 --> 00:09:45,080 Speaker 1: and did he miss one game? He missed a game, 194 00:09:45,760 --> 00:09:47,679 Speaker 1: and it was a kind of a slow start for 195 00:09:47,720 --> 00:09:49,280 Speaker 1: him because he was dealing with that growing I think 196 00:09:49,320 --> 00:09:51,240 Speaker 1: he's now starting to kind of round in the form, 197 00:09:52,280 --> 00:09:54,280 Speaker 1: you know. I think you can kind of forget about 198 00:09:54,320 --> 00:09:55,640 Speaker 1: him a little bit. I can call it up here 199 00:09:55,640 --> 00:09:57,520 Speaker 1: and look, I mean I think a lot of those hits, well, 200 00:09:57,559 --> 00:10:00,920 Speaker 1: he had four quarterback hits against. He had quarterback hits 201 00:10:00,920 --> 00:10:03,640 Speaker 1: in the first four games of the season I played in. 202 00:10:03,960 --> 00:10:06,040 Speaker 1: So those seven quarterback hits have come in the last 203 00:10:06,080 --> 00:10:08,240 Speaker 1: four games, come in the second half of the first half, 204 00:10:08,240 --> 00:10:10,319 Speaker 1: I guess, you know, right, So there it is trending 205 00:10:10,320 --> 00:10:13,439 Speaker 1: in the right direction. Yeah, okay, good. I mean, I 206 00:10:13,559 --> 00:10:16,480 Speaker 1: never concerns about him, but I do think they could 207 00:10:16,559 --> 00:10:20,840 Speaker 1: use one more guy to really produce, whether that's Bush 208 00:10:20,920 --> 00:10:24,400 Speaker 1: or high Smith or whomever. It's not like he was 209 00:10:24,400 --> 00:10:27,520 Speaker 1: going to against some bummings against Seattle. No, no, no, 210 00:10:27,520 --> 00:10:30,040 Speaker 1: Brown's a good player. Yeah, he got one one of 211 00:10:30,040 --> 00:10:33,920 Speaker 1: this probably still one of the top fifteen. Yeah. Yeah, 212 00:10:33,960 --> 00:10:36,040 Speaker 1: he's not the top five guy that he once was, 213 00:10:36,120 --> 00:10:39,160 Speaker 1: but he's still a veteran guy that playing against the 214 00:10:39,160 --> 00:10:43,040 Speaker 1: second year guy. Yeah, I mean it was an elite 215 00:10:43,080 --> 00:10:45,880 Speaker 1: player at one point. And I know times have changed, 216 00:10:46,440 --> 00:10:50,439 Speaker 1: but left tackles are a tougher challenge still than right tackles, 217 00:10:50,440 --> 00:10:52,560 Speaker 1: and we all know. I mean, that doesn't excuse it, 218 00:10:52,600 --> 00:10:55,960 Speaker 1: but I mean I think he'll be I think he'll 219 00:10:55,960 --> 00:10:57,640 Speaker 1: be more than fine. I mean, I think he's gonna 220 00:10:57,640 --> 00:10:59,800 Speaker 1: have a very good career and this would be a 221 00:10:59,800 --> 00:11:02,600 Speaker 1: great spot to really make a mark on national TV 222 00:11:02,760 --> 00:11:06,160 Speaker 1: before he's that tough matchup. Um, I looked up some 223 00:11:06,280 --> 00:11:09,080 Speaker 1: numbers today, Matt. This is interesting to me because I 224 00:11:09,120 --> 00:11:11,440 Speaker 1: was interested to see We got to see a full 225 00:11:11,480 --> 00:11:15,360 Speaker 1: game of Mason Rudolph last week, so I wanted to 226 00:11:15,400 --> 00:11:17,360 Speaker 1: look and see how quickly he got the ball out 227 00:11:17,360 --> 00:11:22,559 Speaker 1: of his hands. Um. Ben Roethlisberger's throwing passes in two 228 00:11:22,640 --> 00:11:25,280 Speaker 1: point three eight seconds this year. That is the fastest 229 00:11:25,480 --> 00:11:27,360 Speaker 1: in the league. Second year in a row. Right, second 230 00:11:27,400 --> 00:11:28,960 Speaker 1: year in a row. Now, last year he was at 231 00:11:28,960 --> 00:11:31,000 Speaker 1: two point three seconds, So he's holding a little bit 232 00:11:31,040 --> 00:11:34,160 Speaker 1: like it's actually a reasonably big difference. Yeah, it doesn't 233 00:11:34,200 --> 00:11:37,360 Speaker 1: sound like it. It doesn't sound like that. Um, Mason 234 00:11:37,440 --> 00:11:39,760 Speaker 1: Rudolph on Sunday got the ball out in two point 235 00:11:39,760 --> 00:11:44,800 Speaker 1: three nine seconds. Uh. If you look at it, um, 236 00:11:44,960 --> 00:11:49,040 Speaker 1: Roethlisberger's average that has intended air yard average with six 237 00:11:49,040 --> 00:11:51,640 Speaker 1: point eight yards per tempt this year, Rudolph was at 238 00:11:51,679 --> 00:11:54,400 Speaker 1: six point five on Sunday. Yeah, I don't. It wasn't 239 00:11:54,440 --> 00:11:56,160 Speaker 1: because he was driving a ball down the field more 240 00:11:56,200 --> 00:12:00,440 Speaker 1: than Ben does. Well to that to that point, Uh, 241 00:12:00,600 --> 00:12:05,480 Speaker 1: Roethlisberger's head. What the what? NFL? Uh the what do 242 00:12:05,520 --> 00:12:09,040 Speaker 1: they call their axdvanced statistics? Yeah? Yeah, next gen next 243 00:12:09,080 --> 00:12:13,200 Speaker 1: gen stats. Next gen stats say say that Roethlisberger's attempting 244 00:12:13,280 --> 00:12:17,359 Speaker 1: eight teen point for aggressive eighteen point four percent aggressive 245 00:12:17,400 --> 00:12:20,560 Speaker 1: throws this season. I think they judged that by not 246 00:12:20,600 --> 00:12:23,160 Speaker 1: throwing short of the sticks basically down the field that 247 00:12:24,600 --> 00:12:28,400 Speaker 1: Rudolph on Sunday was at eighteen percent really similar on 248 00:12:28,480 --> 00:12:32,480 Speaker 1: It's it's almost the same exact thing. Yeah, So the 249 00:12:32,559 --> 00:12:35,040 Speaker 1: people are saying, well, Ben, they're doing this because of Ben. 250 00:12:36,400 --> 00:12:38,679 Speaker 1: I don't know that's what the that's what their offense is. 251 00:12:39,280 --> 00:12:41,920 Speaker 1: I didn't know any of those things, but that boy 252 00:12:41,960 --> 00:12:44,520 Speaker 1: certainly passes the sniff test for a couple of things. 253 00:12:44,960 --> 00:12:47,280 Speaker 1: First of all, it's really late to change the game 254 00:12:47,320 --> 00:12:49,440 Speaker 1: plan whenever you got this news. That's that's part of it. 255 00:12:49,480 --> 00:12:51,679 Speaker 1: There's no doubt. Its definitely some of that. I think 256 00:12:51,760 --> 00:12:55,600 Speaker 1: rudolphs a lot more like Ben than he is, certainly 257 00:12:55,640 --> 00:12:59,720 Speaker 1: the Lamar Jackson's of the world, a lot a lot different. 258 00:13:00,080 --> 00:13:01,760 Speaker 1: Although he had there was a pretty nifty run he 259 00:13:01,800 --> 00:13:04,880 Speaker 1: had on it wasn't it was Lamar like. But I 260 00:13:04,960 --> 00:13:07,560 Speaker 1: also think part of it is this is a compliment 261 00:13:07,600 --> 00:13:11,120 Speaker 1: to Ben that his number getting it out is a 262 00:13:11,160 --> 00:13:14,679 Speaker 1: little quicker because he's a quicker processor, you know, if 263 00:13:14,760 --> 00:13:17,600 Speaker 1: it's the exact same play. And his his depth was 264 00:13:17,640 --> 00:13:21,920 Speaker 1: a little bit down Moore down the field compared to Rudolph's. Yeah, 265 00:13:22,240 --> 00:13:24,199 Speaker 1: I bet his after the catch is a little better 266 00:13:24,320 --> 00:13:26,319 Speaker 1: because it's well, that was the big thing that that 267 00:13:26,400 --> 00:13:29,400 Speaker 1: Mike Tomlins said on Tuesday, that was one thing he 268 00:13:29,440 --> 00:13:34,480 Speaker 1: thought Mason could have done better. Yeah, he said, you know, overall, 269 00:13:34,480 --> 00:13:37,080 Speaker 1: he wasn't I said, I wasn't unhappy with his with 270 00:13:37,120 --> 00:13:39,920 Speaker 1: what he did, he gave us a chance to win. 271 00:13:40,480 --> 00:13:43,520 Speaker 1: He said. If I had a real criticism of Rudolph's play, 272 00:13:43,520 --> 00:13:45,640 Speaker 1: it would be that his ball placement was bad and 273 00:13:45,679 --> 00:13:47,760 Speaker 1: he didn't give us a chance to get as much 274 00:13:47,800 --> 00:13:50,880 Speaker 1: run after the catch as we as was available, particularly 275 00:13:50,920 --> 00:13:53,920 Speaker 1: on like those quick slants. He beautiful. I mean, he 276 00:13:54,080 --> 00:13:57,040 Speaker 1: had to be perfect. And again weather wasn't great, you know, 277 00:13:57,120 --> 00:14:00,439 Speaker 1: all those things. But that was my number oneicism of 278 00:14:00,480 --> 00:14:04,480 Speaker 1: Rudolph was ball placement accuracy a lot were high, you know, 279 00:14:04,679 --> 00:14:07,679 Speaker 1: and a quick game, and Chargers do a lot of 280 00:14:07,760 --> 00:14:12,200 Speaker 1: quick game. It always talking about Walsh, you know, you 281 00:14:12,200 --> 00:14:15,400 Speaker 1: know his tutorials with Montana. Six inches in front of 282 00:14:15,400 --> 00:14:18,520 Speaker 1: the numbers. You know, it's pretty precise, not eight, not 283 00:14:18,679 --> 00:14:21,400 Speaker 1: to That's why That's why you know, Montana was so 284 00:14:21,480 --> 00:14:24,120 Speaker 1: great in that offense. He was a precision pass if 285 00:14:24,120 --> 00:14:27,160 Speaker 1: you to death, if you lined him up. The same 286 00:14:27,200 --> 00:14:29,400 Speaker 1: thing with Brady for that matter. Sure you line those 287 00:14:29,440 --> 00:14:31,960 Speaker 1: two guys up against some of the other you know 288 00:14:32,000 --> 00:14:34,840 Speaker 1: they always and the you know Marinos and some of 289 00:14:34,840 --> 00:14:38,920 Speaker 1: these other guys. J I want those guys. But then 290 00:14:39,040 --> 00:14:41,120 Speaker 1: you put him in a game and you start watching 291 00:14:41,200 --> 00:14:43,840 Speaker 1: him throw passes and it's like, Okay, I see, what's 292 00:14:44,000 --> 00:14:46,200 Speaker 1: how do I defend this? You know, right, because the 293 00:14:46,240 --> 00:14:48,880 Speaker 1: play is drawn up to do this, and they draw 294 00:14:48,920 --> 00:14:51,720 Speaker 1: it up to do that, you know, exactly, Like I 295 00:14:51,760 --> 00:14:53,440 Speaker 1: was listening to Great Costell and I have reference in 296 00:14:53,480 --> 00:14:56,120 Speaker 1: Malachy's really good and we're talking about tonight's game and 297 00:14:56,160 --> 00:14:59,120 Speaker 1: they're talking about Mac Jones and they're talking about so 298 00:15:00,720 --> 00:15:03,120 Speaker 1: you know, a lot of us, myself included, really we're 299 00:15:03,120 --> 00:15:06,040 Speaker 1: concerned about Jones as well. He doesn't make a lot 300 00:15:06,080 --> 00:15:09,480 Speaker 1: of second reaction plays. He's not a great athlete. All 301 00:15:09,480 --> 00:15:12,160 Speaker 1: those things are still true, but he gets to the 302 00:15:12,200 --> 00:15:15,040 Speaker 1: second reaction a lot less than a lot of guys 303 00:15:15,080 --> 00:15:17,080 Speaker 1: did too. You know. And I'm not saying Mac Jones 304 00:15:17,160 --> 00:15:22,840 Speaker 1: is Brady, but the fact that Brady we've already heard that, 305 00:15:22,840 --> 00:15:24,520 Speaker 1: that's that's tap the breaks here, a little bit on 306 00:15:24,560 --> 00:15:28,040 Speaker 1: that Mac Jones Tom Brady stuff, right, And you know, 307 00:15:28,240 --> 00:15:33,119 Speaker 1: even but late career manning, late career breeze, the accuracy 308 00:15:33,120 --> 00:15:36,880 Speaker 1: is still there, the knowledge, the timing, those type of 309 00:15:36,880 --> 00:15:39,800 Speaker 1: things that Rudolph doesn't have yet or may never. I mean, 310 00:15:39,840 --> 00:15:41,520 Speaker 1: I'm talking about Hall of famers here. You know that 311 00:15:41,600 --> 00:15:44,880 Speaker 1: Ben's gonna stas games right right right. Mac Jones has 312 00:15:44,880 --> 00:15:47,240 Speaker 1: started the many career games right right, you know. But 313 00:15:48,120 --> 00:15:51,120 Speaker 1: a lot of those guys Montana Brady that you know 314 00:15:51,120 --> 00:15:53,360 Speaker 1: you brought up, they don't ever get to that second 315 00:15:53,400 --> 00:15:55,920 Speaker 1: reaction because they run the play perfectly the way it 316 00:15:56,000 --> 00:15:58,520 Speaker 1: was drawn up, which means really hard to cover, which 317 00:15:58,680 --> 00:16:03,240 Speaker 1: my coaches are really good like and whatnot. Yeah, uh yeah, 318 00:16:03,480 --> 00:16:06,200 Speaker 1: I just I thought that was very interesting, just a 319 00:16:06,280 --> 00:16:09,640 Speaker 1: fascinating something similar. Yeah, something I thought of in the 320 00:16:09,680 --> 00:16:11,360 Speaker 1: way anything. I want to look that up and see, 321 00:16:11,360 --> 00:16:15,040 Speaker 1: and that's what it was. And like it's just eerily similar, right, 322 00:16:15,120 --> 00:16:17,680 Speaker 1: Like there's not one outlier or one thing that stands 323 00:16:17,680 --> 00:16:21,200 Speaker 1: out almost the same exact numbers, you know, And I 324 00:16:21,240 --> 00:16:23,160 Speaker 1: don't know that Ben's would have been all that much. 325 00:16:24,840 --> 00:16:27,880 Speaker 1: Do I think the Steelers win that game if Roethlisberger place, Yes, 326 00:16:28,440 --> 00:16:31,160 Speaker 1: because of the processing that you just talked, if it's 327 00:16:31,200 --> 00:16:35,160 Speaker 1: just a little better. But the offense performed or worked 328 00:16:35,840 --> 00:16:39,800 Speaker 1: the same fashion, it worked exactly and again less than 329 00:16:39,800 --> 00:16:44,320 Speaker 1: twenty four hours. It was less than twelve hours, he'said. 330 00:16:44,480 --> 00:16:47,600 Speaker 1: Rudolph said today that he found out Roethlisberger wasn't starting 331 00:16:47,920 --> 00:16:50,560 Speaker 1: or wasn't going to be available as he walked into 332 00:16:50,560 --> 00:16:54,720 Speaker 1: the team hotel Saturday night. Wow, so you have again 333 00:16:54,800 --> 00:16:57,160 Speaker 1: the games at one o'clock the next day. You're not 334 00:16:57,200 --> 00:16:59,280 Speaker 1: getting to the team hotel untill four or five o'clock 335 00:16:59,320 --> 00:17:01,760 Speaker 1: in the afternoon. And yeah, that gives you less than 336 00:17:01,760 --> 00:17:04,720 Speaker 1: twelve hours to come up with Yeah, I'm starting tomorrow. 337 00:17:06,600 --> 00:17:09,040 Speaker 1: That's pretty eye opening stuff, you know. Wow, I didn't 338 00:17:09,040 --> 00:17:11,920 Speaker 1: realize it was that quick. Um. I definitely think Ben 339 00:17:11,920 --> 00:17:16,080 Speaker 1: would have handled the elements better too, because he's an utter. 340 00:17:16,760 --> 00:17:18,520 Speaker 1: And I don't know. Now does he make the two 341 00:17:18,600 --> 00:17:21,479 Speaker 1: runs that Rudolph made? No, No, but he probably might 342 00:17:21,520 --> 00:17:24,920 Speaker 1: not have to. And does Johnson and Friarmouth bumble? Yeah, 343 00:17:25,359 --> 00:17:27,840 Speaker 1: that's right. Those are things you just don't know. That's 344 00:17:27,880 --> 00:17:31,560 Speaker 1: not better on defense? No, you know, does Ben throw 345 00:17:31,600 --> 00:17:33,960 Speaker 1: the ball three times from the five yard line? Again? 346 00:17:34,000 --> 00:17:36,960 Speaker 1: We don't know what his decisions have been on RPO. 347 00:17:37,080 --> 00:17:38,919 Speaker 1: I do know the first one was in RPL. The 348 00:17:38,960 --> 00:17:40,919 Speaker 1: first play was in rp O and Rudolph looked at 349 00:17:40,960 --> 00:17:44,040 Speaker 1: the line of scrimmage, counted guys in the box and said, okay, 350 00:17:44,600 --> 00:17:47,119 Speaker 1: numbers say I gotta throw. Maybe Ben looks at that 351 00:17:47,200 --> 00:17:50,200 Speaker 1: and says, numbers say I gotta throw, but I'm gonna 352 00:17:50,200 --> 00:17:52,280 Speaker 1: trust Nagy in this. Yeah, I was about to say 353 00:17:52,280 --> 00:17:57,000 Speaker 1: the exact Rudolph doesn't have that. It's that experience. It's 354 00:17:57,000 --> 00:17:59,520 Speaker 1: the experience factor. Roethlisberger could say, you know what, we're 355 00:17:59,520 --> 00:18:01,480 Speaker 1: at the five yard line here. I've done this a 356 00:18:01,560 --> 00:18:04,360 Speaker 1: thousand times in my career. We're gonna run the ball 357 00:18:04,359 --> 00:18:05,920 Speaker 1: in first down because I got two more downs to 358 00:18:05,920 --> 00:18:07,639 Speaker 1: play with. And if he gets four yards here, then 359 00:18:07,680 --> 00:18:10,040 Speaker 1: we're in better shape. And our ground game starting to 360 00:18:10,080 --> 00:18:12,720 Speaker 1: do something. And you know it's starting to we keep 361 00:18:12,720 --> 00:18:15,400 Speaker 1: banging this rock long enough, it's gonna crack. Because Ben 362 00:18:15,440 --> 00:18:18,679 Speaker 1: has shown, I mean over at least the last month, 363 00:18:19,119 --> 00:18:22,679 Speaker 1: he doesn't mind handing off, you know, and Marino in 364 00:18:22,720 --> 00:18:24,520 Speaker 1: his heyday, I'm not gonna hand you know them just 365 00:18:24,560 --> 00:18:27,080 Speaker 1: guns away, you know, guns a blazing all the time. No, 366 00:18:27,200 --> 00:18:29,720 Speaker 1: I think he's quickly come to the realization that the 367 00:18:29,720 --> 00:18:33,439 Speaker 1: best thing for seven and the teams is hitting the 368 00:18:33,480 --> 00:18:38,680 Speaker 1: ball off without a doubt. Um. For Rudolph, now the 369 00:18:39,280 --> 00:18:43,800 Speaker 1: game becomes this week, He's taking all the snaps right, 370 00:18:43,800 --> 00:18:48,080 Speaker 1: He's the one of Ben's our practice. Um. So you 371 00:18:48,119 --> 00:18:50,160 Speaker 1: know I asked him today, I should do you feel 372 00:18:50,160 --> 00:18:53,960 Speaker 1: a little like Charlie Brown with Lucy van Pelle point, 373 00:18:53,960 --> 00:18:55,520 Speaker 1: because you're gonna go all the way up to toil. 374 00:18:55,640 --> 00:18:58,119 Speaker 1: You may not know until Saturday. Yeah, this is the 375 00:18:58,119 --> 00:19:01,199 Speaker 1: exact opposite of last week. Exact opposite the last week. 376 00:19:01,200 --> 00:19:02,919 Speaker 1: The rugs about to get pulled out from your problem. 377 00:19:02,960 --> 00:19:04,399 Speaker 1: So you're prepping to play, and then all of a 378 00:19:04,440 --> 00:19:06,240 Speaker 1: sudden you may show up for the team flight and say, oh, 379 00:19:06,320 --> 00:19:09,720 Speaker 1: Ben's clear, he's gonna start tomorrow. Yeah, Mason, thanks, thanks 380 00:19:09,760 --> 00:19:12,280 Speaker 1: for it. Work this week exactly. But life of the 381 00:19:12,280 --> 00:19:15,400 Speaker 1: backup quarterback is that way. I mean they always say 382 00:19:15,720 --> 00:19:18,480 Speaker 1: you have to prepare like you're going to start. That's 383 00:19:18,480 --> 00:19:21,560 Speaker 1: easy to say, absolutely, and you hear that all the time. 384 00:19:21,760 --> 00:19:27,080 Speaker 1: But right or Tyron Taylor's lung gets punctured, and you're 385 00:19:27,119 --> 00:19:29,560 Speaker 1: the second or third string guy at any position. Yeah, 386 00:19:30,280 --> 00:19:32,560 Speaker 1: the quarterback they'll rotate in. Yeah, no, kid, you know, 387 00:19:32,560 --> 00:19:36,200 Speaker 1: the showerback gets most of the of the snaps. Yeah, 388 00:19:36,320 --> 00:19:38,119 Speaker 1: you know if you're not the guy now. It is 389 00:19:38,160 --> 00:19:41,000 Speaker 1: different for the Steelers because on Wednesday Roethlisberger doesn't practice. 390 00:19:41,520 --> 00:19:45,960 Speaker 1: Rudolph practices more than most back. But the way it 391 00:19:46,040 --> 00:19:50,560 Speaker 1: generally works is the starter gets the start the snaps 392 00:19:50,560 --> 00:19:53,040 Speaker 1: with the starters, and then you get a couple at 393 00:19:53,040 --> 00:19:57,000 Speaker 1: the end of each series. Yeah, exactly. Not to mention 394 00:19:57,080 --> 00:19:59,040 Speaker 1: just the mindset and the prep and all that kind 395 00:19:59,040 --> 00:20:01,720 Speaker 1: of stuff too. Like it's easy to say, boy, every 396 00:20:01,760 --> 00:20:04,600 Speaker 1: week I prepare like I'm the starter. That's fine, but 397 00:20:04,840 --> 00:20:06,720 Speaker 1: you probably don't. That would be like that would be 398 00:20:06,720 --> 00:20:08,800 Speaker 1: like you walking in here today and I said, hey, Matt, 399 00:20:09,000 --> 00:20:10,679 Speaker 1: you're gonna be the lead today, and you you can. 400 00:20:10,800 --> 00:20:13,440 Speaker 1: You can take us into that of breaks. You could 401 00:20:13,440 --> 00:20:18,520 Speaker 1: do it, or it would be like you know, somebody 402 00:20:18,520 --> 00:20:21,480 Speaker 1: else sitting in my chair that ye like, I show 403 00:20:21,560 --> 00:20:22,840 Speaker 1: up for the show, I'm ready to sit down and 404 00:20:22,840 --> 00:20:24,520 Speaker 1: talk to you, and all of a sudden, somebody else 405 00:20:24,560 --> 00:20:26,880 Speaker 1: and somebody else. Okay, we don't have that that same 406 00:20:27,560 --> 00:20:32,760 Speaker 1: back and forth rapport. Or you gotta talk about baseball today. 407 00:20:34,960 --> 00:20:38,120 Speaker 1: People to not quick. But I thought one thing that 408 00:20:38,200 --> 00:20:42,320 Speaker 1: rud Rudolph said. It was he said, when I asked 409 00:20:42,400 --> 00:20:44,840 Speaker 1: him about the the Charlie Brown thing, he said, yeah, 410 00:20:45,080 --> 00:20:49,399 Speaker 1: anytime you can't play every week I don't play, you're disappointed, Sure, 411 00:20:49,640 --> 00:20:53,480 Speaker 1: he said, the battle is between team and herself and 412 00:20:53,520 --> 00:20:56,720 Speaker 1: team we're not. We're all going to feel that way inside. 413 00:20:56,720 --> 00:20:58,159 Speaker 1: But at the end of the at the end of 414 00:20:58,160 --> 00:21:00,000 Speaker 1: the freaking day that I told him after I said 415 00:21:00,000 --> 00:21:01,520 Speaker 1: that was a money quote. He says, at the end 416 00:21:01,520 --> 00:21:03,600 Speaker 1: of the freaking day, what matters is going out and 417 00:21:03,600 --> 00:21:06,480 Speaker 1: winning the game, regardless of who's playing the game. The Steelers, 418 00:21:06,760 --> 00:21:08,560 Speaker 1: we want to win. We want to stack wins in 419 00:21:08,600 --> 00:21:10,840 Speaker 1: our column and set ourselves up for the postseason. And 420 00:21:10,880 --> 00:21:13,479 Speaker 1: then he said, hey, old man, I'm twenty five years old. 421 00:21:13,520 --> 00:21:17,320 Speaker 1: I've never heard of Charlie Brown. Everybody knows Charlie Brown. 422 00:21:17,680 --> 00:21:21,760 Speaker 1: Even he got that reference. Come on, man, but you 423 00:21:21,800 --> 00:21:25,119 Speaker 1: know again. And I asked him about the the he 424 00:21:25,200 --> 00:21:28,480 Speaker 1: was asked about the situation last year in Cincinnati. I think, 425 00:21:28,480 --> 00:21:30,439 Speaker 1: actually I didn't ask him that one. I mean, he 426 00:21:30,480 --> 00:21:33,800 Speaker 1: has been thrust into some strange situations and he got 427 00:21:33,800 --> 00:21:37,280 Speaker 1: all those snaps last year. Ben's on the close contact 428 00:21:37,280 --> 00:21:43,440 Speaker 1: list and didn't wasn't available all week long. He comes 429 00:21:43,480 --> 00:21:46,200 Speaker 1: in on Saturday. Okay, Ben's ready to go. He's he's 430 00:21:46,200 --> 00:21:49,199 Speaker 1: cleared all Roethlisberger. Burger didn't that game was going out 431 00:21:49,240 --> 00:21:51,600 Speaker 1: through for three and thirty three yards and four touchdowns 432 00:21:51,720 --> 00:21:54,240 Speaker 1: with no interceptions. The Steelers beat the Bengals thirty six 433 00:21:54,240 --> 00:21:57,880 Speaker 1: to ten destroyed him, right, I mean, I don't think 434 00:21:57,920 --> 00:21:59,840 Speaker 1: any of it. I'm not getting on Rudolf, but I 435 00:21:59,840 --> 00:22:02,840 Speaker 1: think he's a lifetime backup. I think that's you know, 436 00:22:03,080 --> 00:22:05,679 Speaker 1: and he could be a really good one. But I 437 00:22:05,720 --> 00:22:08,600 Speaker 1: bet he looks back once he retires ten twelve years 438 00:22:08,600 --> 00:22:11,359 Speaker 1: from now or whatever and says, some of that rocky 439 00:22:11,480 --> 00:22:14,440 Speaker 1: road in weird situations I got thrown into my first 440 00:22:14,480 --> 00:22:17,119 Speaker 1: two years or those the two year stretch of the 441 00:22:17,160 --> 00:22:20,159 Speaker 1: COVID years really made me better at this, you know, 442 00:22:20,240 --> 00:22:23,680 Speaker 1: like the Frank Reich's and Jason Garrett's that get thrown 443 00:22:23,720 --> 00:22:26,359 Speaker 1: in behind a starved you know, over their career and 444 00:22:26,359 --> 00:22:28,880 Speaker 1: they're ready. You know. I think they'll be useful for him. 445 00:22:28,880 --> 00:22:31,520 Speaker 1: It's funny you say that, because he was asked about that. 446 00:22:31,560 --> 00:22:34,720 Speaker 1: He said, it's good experience to have. This experience will 447 00:22:34,720 --> 00:22:37,920 Speaker 1: help me when I'm sixty, when I'm a grandfather. These 448 00:22:37,960 --> 00:22:40,399 Speaker 1: are valuable life experiences. When you get called on in 449 00:22:40,400 --> 00:22:43,800 Speaker 1: the heat of the moment, you've just got to adjust. Yeah, right, 450 00:22:43,840 --> 00:22:46,280 Speaker 1: I mean, if you can, if you can do this 451 00:22:46,359 --> 00:22:51,040 Speaker 1: kind of stuff, everything else is easy, right, exactly right, 452 00:22:51,040 --> 00:22:52,960 Speaker 1: all right? I mean not not to mention the miles 453 00:22:52,960 --> 00:22:55,800 Speaker 1: Garrett stuff and all the stuff. You know, crazy season, 454 00:22:55,840 --> 00:23:00,480 Speaker 1: he's been through quite a bit. Yeah. Um, but uh again, 455 00:23:00,840 --> 00:23:03,240 Speaker 1: I don't know if that he is the quarterback of 456 00:23:03,280 --> 00:23:06,920 Speaker 1: the future for the Pittsburgh Steelers. Um, I do not 457 00:23:07,000 --> 00:23:10,199 Speaker 1: know for a long time. I do know that he 458 00:23:10,240 --> 00:23:14,359 Speaker 1: puts in the prep um he cares about it a 459 00:23:14,400 --> 00:23:16,520 Speaker 1: great deal. I mean, this is a guy that works 460 00:23:17,040 --> 00:23:20,320 Speaker 1: constantly throwing the football, even when he was a rookie. 461 00:23:20,359 --> 00:23:22,360 Speaker 1: I remember talking to him about that his rookie year. 462 00:23:22,720 --> 00:23:25,720 Speaker 1: He's the third string guy, so when the first team 463 00:23:25,760 --> 00:23:28,399 Speaker 1: offense is out there working on stuff, he's not getting 464 00:23:28,400 --> 00:23:30,680 Speaker 1: any steps. If he's not doing team or whatever, he's 465 00:23:30,680 --> 00:23:32,560 Speaker 1: not doing much. So he's down on the other end 466 00:23:32,600 --> 00:23:35,520 Speaker 1: of the field just throwing to whoever is available and 467 00:23:36,960 --> 00:23:41,359 Speaker 1: just practicing routes and play You know, they would they 468 00:23:41,400 --> 00:23:45,080 Speaker 1: would have, especially during special team sessions. Everybody else is 469 00:23:45,119 --> 00:23:46,560 Speaker 1: down at the other end of the field doing special 470 00:23:46,600 --> 00:23:49,479 Speaker 1: team stuff and he's either on the other field or 471 00:23:49,560 --> 00:23:53,240 Speaker 1: he's in the other end zone if they're indoors, throwing 472 00:23:53,280 --> 00:23:56,560 Speaker 1: to Antonio Brown, whoever, whoever is again, whoever was available. 473 00:23:56,880 --> 00:23:59,760 Speaker 1: He wanted to those guys. Not all young quarterbacks do that. 474 00:24:00,080 --> 00:24:01,720 Speaker 1: You know, like people that don't go to practice don't. 475 00:24:01,720 --> 00:24:03,600 Speaker 1: I mean sometimes they kind of had a round or 476 00:24:03,640 --> 00:24:06,959 Speaker 1: joke or you know, enjoy enjoy their teammates and camaraderie 477 00:24:06,960 --> 00:24:10,439 Speaker 1: and stuff, and aren't always practicing, you know, every second 478 00:24:10,480 --> 00:24:12,399 Speaker 1: they came. I mean, he works as he works as 479 00:24:12,400 --> 00:24:15,679 Speaker 1: hard at as anybody I've seen um and and it 480 00:24:15,720 --> 00:24:19,720 Speaker 1: has since the beginning. So you know, if if he 481 00:24:19,760 --> 00:24:21,359 Speaker 1: doesn't get it done, if he does get to start 482 00:24:21,359 --> 00:24:23,439 Speaker 1: on Sunday and doesn't get it done, it's not for 483 00:24:23,520 --> 00:24:25,960 Speaker 1: lack of trying. It might be because they who else 484 00:24:26,000 --> 00:24:28,399 Speaker 1: they're lacking for this game. We'll talk a little bit 485 00:24:28,400 --> 00:24:30,560 Speaker 1: more about that when we come back. He is Matt 486 00:24:30,560 --> 00:24:32,760 Speaker 1: Williams and I'm Dale Lali. You're listening to the drive 487 00:24:32,800 --> 00:24:35,680 Speaker 1: here on Steelers Nation Radio. We'll be back with more 488 00:24:35,800 --> 00:24:39,920 Speaker 1: right after this. When you want black and Gold football talk, 489 00:24:40,280 --> 00:24:41,720 Speaker 1: you want s n R.